👮ron-discussion

[fossil crow]

Alright

[grand meteor]

i wish they had simple missions like a traffic stop or like another basic robbery mission, domestic violence,

[hybrid karma]

YES

[grand meteor]

something easy for a patrol officer. like what patrol officer arrives to a fucking hidden undergound tunnels near a border.

[sterile prism]

why would swat do a traffic stop

[grand meteor]

its not swat, they have different oufits for different departments now

they have a patrol uniform now, so they should bring those types of missions

[sterile prism]

that's not really what the game is about

[hybrid karma]

No LSPD has a full time SWAT team. They wouldn't do traffic stops lol

[sterile prism]

that would be cool though

play gta rp lmao

[limber escarp]

I got a question, I got a PS5 but all my ron data is on PC, if I buy ron can I transfer it or no?

[grand meteor]

no swat team pulls up to a yacht terrorist guy

thats like a fucking, seals mission, full on military

not a basic pd swat team

los suenos is in fucking hell though, so much trash everywhere, every robber has fucking militarized guns, homemade bombs, a casual bomb sitting in the detective room, protests, fire, weather

[sterile prism]

not too far off from the real life united states lmao

[molten prairie]

Los Suenos is just the south side of Chicago.

[keen rover]

uhh why do I need to install EOS dependencies when I bought the game on steam

[coral tapir]

@somber monolith WWWWWWWW good job on your Programmed Psychosis!

Anyways what gun did you use?

[crystal iris]

is the "my eyes, it burns" achievement popping for anyone else?

i stood in a gas cloud and killed 3 suspects without a gas mask, i dont know if its bugged or not

[sterile prism]

you have to incapacitate them not kill them

it has been buggy though and not popping for everyone

[crystal iris]

huh

i know you could have gotten the 3 letter triad one by killing them, but i didnt get sleeper agent that way.

ill try to use slugs and get back to you

[sterile prism]

good luck! i tried last night with the new battle rifle but i gave up because im pretty sure it's bugged

lmk if you get it

[jaunty cloud]

anyone have tips for getting the 2 headshots over 30m on leviathan?

[somber monolith]

a 50 ae kriss vector

its a mod i can send it to you if you want

[somber monolith]

bugged afaik

[somber monolith]

yea stay on the helipad and let them come to you

and use a lpvo

[crystal iris]

spawn heli pad, if you dont see one on the left, reset. keep doing that till you get one then just see if another comes at you. you can move around to the other side and try and look down the far side of the rig too

[crystal iris]

welp, ill give up trying for now

65/66

[jaunty cloud]

how long does that take

i spent 20m at the helipad and only got 1 guy so i went in and died

[somber monolith]

grim

[crystal iris]

it took me about 2-3 hours of resetting to get it

[somber monolith]

59/66

[crystal iris]

if there isnt a guy there in the first 5 min just reset

[somber monolith]

time to start on the hermit run

making a new save on iron man mode wont disregard my customizations rite

[jaunty cloud]

got very lucky here. I shot the dude on the left, then someone just shot at me for a second from the end of the crates. thanks man

[keen rover]

are chem lights infinite?

[crystal iris]

you only get 10

[crystal iris]

congrats! love to hear it

[somber monolith]

nice job

@crystal iris starting an ironman wont get rid of all my customizations right

[jaunty cloud]

now i need to get sleeper agent :(

[crystal iris]

it shouldnt, you cant un unlock things

[somber monolith]

okay

holy shit i have 99 mission comps

[crystal iris]

ill tell you how i did it, i got 4 ppl from here, we all took beanbags and made everyone give up and took their weapons. we counted out how many we have give up then arrested them all when we got to 15, and that worked

[somber monolith]

how do i start an ironman

shee

[crystal iris]

i only know how to do it on pc

[jaunty cloud]

yeah im gonna do that with my cousin tomorrow

[somber monolith]

but how did you do it in like 15 seconds

[crystal iris]

15 between each suspect

[somber monolith]

oh so like a chain

[jaunty cloud]

we spent 2 hours earlier trying to do it. we almost got it but realised that when the dudes bleed out it doesnt count

[somber monolith]

i see

[crystal iris]

arrest 1, wait 14 then arrest another and youre good. you could run around and kill everyone but you arent guarantied to get 15 guys quickly enough

[somber monolith]

suspect - 15 seconds - suspect - 15 seconds

[crystal iris]

try and find a few more and youll be good, make sure to take their weapons

[somber monolith]

does it have to be exactly on the 15 second mark or is it okay if its like earlier

[jaunty cloud]

running around and shooting everyone isnt reliable because you need to stabalize them before the next

[jaunty cloud]

yeah that method is exactly how we got hidden and dangerous in 30m

we used flash launchers because they are more efficient with multiple people imo

[crystal iris]

you can just kill them, no need to arrest. i know a guy got the achievement like that and posted it on youtube

[jaunty cloud]

i heard that was a bug

[sterile prism]

arrest everyone twice to make them drop their secondary but spam other buttons to cancel the animation so theyre not restrained

try to get them to all move to the same spot or at least group them up in areas you can reach quickly, use wedges too to lock them in an area

[crystal iris]

if they get incaped you can just shoot them again and keep moving

[jaunty cloud]

and if that was true, we should 100% have it. I counted in my head between every kill and we would call out when we shot someone. On top of that, we only shot them twice in the gut to incapacitate them

[sterile prism]

make sure you secure all the weapon caches too

[somber monolith]

aiming to do a combination of the world, the hermit and i'm too old for this, wish me luck

[crystal iris]

you have to report the encap for it to count. you dont have to report the dead. its a little weird

[jaunty cloud]

thats so dumb

these new boiling point missions are going to end me though

im not looking foward to those at all. My group still hasnt been able to even finish a new america

[crystal iris]

dude id just do the ironman, its hard enough without worrying about hard until after youre done. hard is like unfun for even me

[jaunty cloud]

hard is just annoying. everyone is always on edge, a literal juggernaut, and deadshot's powers

[crystal iris]

there are a couple good videos i watched that helped, but its really about listening for mlo guys breaching and knowing the layout

[jaunty cloud]

yeah we got the layout down, and always cut sensors. We finish the first 3 floors with ease, but then die getting the man with the flower mask

if the layout of the staircase didnt have 5 different points for you to get shot from at different angles it wouldnt be that bad

[crystal iris]

i save my flashes for those 2 places

[keen rover]

is commander mode the only mode available now?

[crystal iris]

its really unfun cus thats wehre the ai are just better, just suppressing you and murdering you from range

[jaunty cloud]

well i would do that but my group had to be missing some chromosomes because they just rush in

[crystal iris]

[sterile prism]

just had my guys breach a door i didnt check and they all blew up

we were not ready

[jaunty cloud]

its ready or not- choose one

[balmy patio]

metagame armor to help u out the best

3 shot to bleed ratio is big W's

[jaunty cloud]

LOL

[arctic jetty]

Question. Do my cosmetic options transfer between single player and multiplayer? I have a tiered hide and seek with friends but not in commander mode

[jaunty cloud]

no seriously i get shot by 2 shots and bleed out

[jaunty cloud]

i'm pretty sure yeah let me check

yeah they do

[arctic jetty]

Awesome. Because some of my friends want to s tier valley of the dolls

[jaunty cloud]

loadout between singleplayer and multiplayer is different though so change that

oh i misread your question i thought you meant cosmetic loadouts. Still the answer is yes though

[somber monolith]

lmfao

im giving everyone flash launchers and seeing how it goes

this fucking guy wont put th eknife down

my entire team has him surrounded

and he still wont put it down

thank you for this curse of ever lasting "I aint doin shit"

how tf do you even extract from that

[keen rover]

how do you get your team to switch to sidearm

[mental ivy]

hard mode just forces u to mirror everything and free lean all the time

[somber monolith]

flashbang everything

non lethal dominance

[spice grotto]

is anyone having server issues? We can't connect to Epic

[chrome edge]

Uhm give them no primary ammo

[somber monolith]

did you open steam

[spice grotto]

yeah

[somber monolith]

grim good luck

[spice grotto]

We all reinstall after update and we couldn't get it to connect

[unkempt granite]

next mission is narcos

i've heard stuff about it, what should i expect?

[vernal fractal]

Hey does anyoune know how i can cycle though laser and flashlight?

i cant seem to find the key bind

[floral peak]

almost Hard S ranked the ANA

died on last floor

[somber monolith]

thats grim

why would you do that to yourself though 😭

[balmy patio]

Programmed psychosis twin

W achievement never again

[plush leaf]

Man wtf, a suspect just spawned in from thin air and killed me on ANA

[somber monolith]

literally

but i mean you dont need to s it

god knows i shot every terrorist there except the triggerman

[floral peak]

I have to, because i have all the other Hard S ranks on any other map

and honestly, its really nice when you have ai

They at least can cover/tank some damage

[winged obsidian]

i need smb to play with my crew is sleep chat and im bored to death.

[floral peak]

We can Hard S A New America together

[winged obsidian]

your PC

and rn i need lethal, quick, coordinated, and precise people.

[split cypress]

can someone help me w this

[floral peak]

So what?

[split cypress]

im wanting to find mods but i dont wanna have to manually find them in like random websites or external things is there no way to just search and download them in the game itself?

[floral peak]

Literally mods option in main menu

[split cypress]

i dont see it #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[somber monolith]

just finished crack dimension hard mode

good progress

[floral peak]

not #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[unkempt granite]

does carriers of the vine hard have traps?

[floral peak]

no

[split cypress]

i mean in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[hardy tendon]

If a map has no trap in standard it will not magically have traps on hard.

Also if you people would WATCH the mission briefing, TOC tells you when you have trap!!
@unkempt granite

[floral peak]

Thats interesting

[somber monolith]

time to squash a spider

brixley im coming for your ass

[floral peak]

Elephant:

[split cypress]

just wanna get a police mod so i can do riot control 😔

[hardy tendon]

That’s why I included the part about the game literally telling u there’s traps 🪤

[floral peak]

well, on standart there no traps, but magically they are present on Hard

[rocky plover]

That's false

[hardy tendon]

“suspects have dug in and may have planted traps”

[floral peak]

Thats not briefing, its when you are already on mission

[hardy tendon]

TOC says it

[floral peak]

So? its not in briefing

Its only when you get on mission

[hardy tendon]

Game tells you, open eye, end of story

[somber monolith]

custody while barely firing a single shot

[rocky plover]

Anyone else randomly sometimes has a suspect become auto secured/arrested on a new america not long after you spawn?

I guess he vanishes into out of bounds and that's why it happens.

[plush leaf]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1485162033161961472

Also not to mention one just suddenly spawned in and shot me

[rocky plover]

Oh I see, weird though because that part is not out of bounds

[plush leaf]

Yeah

[somber monolith]

gerard aint shit

[unkempt granite]

10/13 hostages

two were on the ground surrendered

[halcyon snow]

how do i say to ai to follow me?? after an order they stay still on the map

[unkempt granite]

use formation

[halcyon snow]

how

[keen rover]

A+ isn't bad for the first mission ever right?

[keen rover]

fall in > choose formation

diamond is probably the best for open areas

[somber monolith]

i fucked the ironman because i was too eager to make an arrest on ides of march

[surreal pelican]

you what the ironman?

(btw just alt f4 if shit happens on ironman)

[halcyon snow]

ye ty

[somber monolith]

deadass?

[wide verge]

Rank doesn't matter for gold watch ?

[somber monolith]

it cancels it?

[wide verge]

Yea quit the game. Just make sure to not cancel the mission

[somber monolith]

i see

welp thanks for that a little too late though

will keep in mind for next run though

[wide verge]

Oldest trick in the book. Quit before the game saves

[somber monolith]

how do you know it hasnt saved

[surreal pelican]

It doesn't cancel

[somber monolith]

just alt f4 as soon as you or someone dies?

[surreal pelican]

If you see the death card and the ironman delete save message you're too late

[somber monolith]

grim

[jolly verge]

Nope

[surreal pelican]

And ya just alt f4 asap

[unkempt granite]

I sure love having 4 swat dudes and none shoot a single grenade towards an armed target!

and then they just get shot down 💔

[somber monolith]

lemme disable no crack because i dont think i need it for base game

and lwk not do a hard run 😭

ill do hard run first then ironman

ides of march down

[hybrid wren]

I apogize VOID for being salty at Hide and Seek

Boiling Point update brought really good quality of life updates

[final ember]

why is ARCW so horrible to handle with arm injuries
no other gun has this problem

[mystic palm]

Which stairs are better to take to floor 21 in ANA, because i get jumped every single time

[chilly swan]

i apologise to void but not to the MLO

[proven dagger]

you know what i find odd in australia if you buy the game digitally its 70 but if you buy disc your forced to pay an extra 20 just for the triple weapon pack

[unkempt granite]

it happened again 💔 just one suspect left

[halcyon snow]

how do i change difficulty to standard or higher??

[unkempt granite]

go to mission select, up right

[silk obsidian]

Can someone point me to where I can drop a bug I encountered. Updating the game via steam and when it finished patching it says content file locked

[unkempt granite]

#1050535723087958156

[silk obsidian]

thank you!

[unkempt granite]

but since it's not an in game you should try out tech support

[halcyon snow]

ohhh thanks... i did 7 S rank map on casual lmao

[unkempt granite]

if i'm fair i did the same for buy cheap buy twice lol, but from casual to standard there might not be so much of a difference

[halcyon snow]

is there achievement for hard?

[unkempt granite]

as far as i know there's only for completion, not s rank

for base game yeah only completion

[halcyon snow]

ye i see

and dlc got ach too?

[unkempt granite]

i think dlc have S rank on standard

but not hard completion, so it's relatively fine

[halcyon snow]

if it's only s

[split loom]

Yo i’ve seen someone post on reddit ps5 that there is a crye jpc vest in the game and u need boiling point dlc, but I don’t see any new vest added??

[proven dagger]

jpc is supporter edition if im not mistaken

[split loom]

But it was on ps5 tho so could not be just supporter pc right? Or was there a supporter ps5 too

[proven dagger]

i think on ps5 there was a period where people could see the supporter edition cosmetics from ps5 but just couldnt unlock them

[split loom]

Ah that could make sense

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/s/UJLXJqJIQK

It does says boiling point dlc

[proven dagger]

basically he had the artemis vest on hence why it said boiling point dlc but that vest is supporter only

devs take the pictures of the dlcs with pc so thats why

[split loom]

Aah buggers, wanted that vest pretty bad

[proven dagger]

me too, i wanted the vest and the gas mask

[split loom]

Hope they’ll release some more cosmetics any time soon

[proven dagger]

yeah although i feel they are a bit stingy with cosmetics at times but oh well

[unkempt granite]

how i wish there was somewhere to see how many suspects i have arrested in the mission

[split loom]

Definitely, the heavy vest from boiling point is cool but i don’t need another heavy vest hahah

[proven dagger]

yeah, really wish they added another jpc that we could use

[obsidian walrus]

Has anyone not on console had ai teamates night vision laser not visable with goggles on.

[unkempt granite]

16/18 S ranked main missions

[somber monolith]

halfway through itoft

and then theres the post office.. fuck

[unkempt granite]

i can't remember how I s ranked those bc that was a year ago but my recommendations are that you do the outside first and memorize how the mission is mapped out

[simple carbon]

anyone else having issues with the m320 gas? Seems to be completely ineffective with an inconsistent cloud smaller than the grenade for me

[somber monolith]

i know my route but this shit still fuckin me up

[unkempt granite]

use the stun one, it's better

[eternal drum]

post office my beloved

[somber monolith]

i keep letting myself get sucked into this hell

and forgetting to take it from the outside im going to castrate myself

[unkempt granite]

have you tried 24 stun rounds

[somber monolith]

oh no trust me i got that covered

but even with that going inside before clearing perimeter is a nightmare i wouldnt curse upon my worst enemy

honestly worse than any other hell psychosis included

[unkempt granite]

look up S rank playthroughs, they really help

[somber monolith]

no i've got it its just a matter of patience

i beat this evil facility once before i shall do it again

[simple carbon]

ack the Stun is good but my question was re the gas launcher, seeing if anyone else is having issues i.e could be a bug or unintended behaviour

[unkempt granite]

mb, but I think it's due to CS grenades having only 7m of AOE, and because i think gas also takes like a second to start making effect on those areas

[somber monolith]

flash is infinitely better

[wary plover]

You know bad ending is non canon by achievement name

"Targeted Manipulation" David got tricked into killing all those people

And ||Green Gloves Man does not break him out. David is gonna be in prison for life||

You lose if you give in to the chaos

[hexed escarp]

he literally says to follow him out tho doesnt he

[wary plover]

Door doesnt open

[hexed escarp]

VOID probably just didnt animate it lol idk

why would he say to leave with him and then just leave you there

[wary plover]

Also David is most broken mentally in Prison Ending

[merry epoch]

I cronicled a bunch of the A new America Dialouge

[wary plover]

Unused voice lines show him losing it

[merry epoch]

I think they replaced TOC

[wary plover]

No. TOC is same guy

[hexed escarp]

FISA takes place of TOC during ANA then it gets taken over by the triggerman

[merry epoch]

No I mean as in they are using some kind of voice changer and pretending to be TOC

[wary plover]

In ANA he is blocked for MLO to talk to judge

[merry epoch]

Except when he's on, some of it might not be TOC

[hexed escarp]

nah its the same FISA agent as port hokan

[wary plover]

MLO is mocking Judge in ANA

[merry epoch]

Not who I'm talking about

[merry epoch]

I know

[wary plover]

"Restraint is for the weak"

[merry epoch]

Somebody who sounds exactly like TOC with mild distortion is speaking weird and non sensically sometimes

[merry epoch]

Also "You fell short in spectacular fashion. Disappointing"

[hexed escarp]

thats just FISA TOC getting garbled out by the MLO

[merry epoch]

Nah

[hexed escarp]

yes it is lol

why would the MLO pretend to be TOC just to let triggerman on the mic

[merry epoch]

They gave us a warning that the bomb was about to go off about 10 seconds after it did

[wary plover]

Also why send Judge since FISA knew MLO targeted him in ANA briefing?

[merry epoch]

Manipulation, the MLO's whole thing

[hexed escarp]

thats FISA regaining control after you enable the jammer

[merry epoch]

To test him

[hexed escarp]

they dont have anyone else to send

it'd be a death sentence to send in just judge's team without judge coordinating them

[merry epoch]

Why'd they say "D platoon, we can't hold -------, move"

It sounded very similar to the bomb warning toc gave

[wary plover]

Due to secret ending we now know S Ranks are canon

[final ember]

searching for civs on new america drives me fucking nuts

[hexed escarp]

thats prob just them not being able to hold communicatons open

[final ember]

they dont even approach or shout anymore

[merry epoch]

But why say it post detonation?

[keen rover]

have you guys played the new DLC yet? is it worth getting?

[final ember]

did I forget to report a tied down civ??

[merry epoch]

What is judge moving to do?

[hexed escarp]

theres a civ that usually hides in the room with the big model of the city in a weird cubby at the right side of the room

[wary plover]

Yes

[merry epoch]

I am making a red string conspiracy board because of it

[final ember]

where is it

[hexed escarp]

the room with the big model of the city that tells you about it's history

its like the very first room you enter on the 2nd floor

[final ember]

the one at the beginnign of the map pretty much? did that

[hexed escarp]

oh idk where else then

cus thats where i usually miss a civ

[merry epoch]

Also Luna, the MLO literally says "Tick tock. Join us Upstairs in the courtroom for your final test. Better hurry." After you arm the jammer

They're testing judge

that's why they want him

Also does anybody know if there's a helicopter near the building?

[hexed escarp]

there isnt

you can never see/hear one and its not mentioned anywhere in the briefing so

[merry epoch]

The MLO guy chatting to judge from one

[hexed escarp]

dude the MLO guy on the radio is in the last room 😭 its the dude with the flower mask

[merry epoch]

No he's not

[hexed escarp]

yes it is

[merry epoch]

Listen to his lines

There's a clearly audible helicopter

[hexed escarp]

no there isnt????

[final ember]

seems I missed a room on the top floor

[hexed escarp]

was it one of the bathrooms up there cus theres civvies there too sometimes

[merry epoch]

Yeah there most definitly is

[hexed escarp]

there is not bro

[final ember]

nope, one of the rooms next to the detonator room

[somber monolith]

im getting soft locked by this fuckwit by the mail truck

im going to blow him up

[final ember]

guy was already surrendered, which means he was in contact with suspects already and that somehow overrides their seek out mechanic

[merry epoch]

@final ember you're activly playing ANA right?

[final ember]

actively as in trying over and over again? yeah lol
but I just finished for the first time without an abysmal score

[merry epoch]

Nice

[final ember]

B...I'm glad

[merry epoch]

Can you check if there's a kind of faint whirring/helicopter noise in the background of the MLO guy's lines?

[final ember]

was already back in the station when you texted me
besides, pretty sure thats not a chopper but muffled gunfire

[hexed escarp]

no matter what it just doesnt make sense for the whirring to be a heli

why would you fly a helicopter around a building you're about to explode multiple large buildings around

[merry epoch]

To monitor the situation without dying in said exploding buildings

[hexed escarp]

you could just use regular radios for that

not to mention a full on helicopter would be so easy for the LSPD to find and intercept

[merry epoch]

Unless they're running a minigun for some reason

[final ember]

alarming suspects on ANA kinda works in your favor sometimes
fuck all that breaching and peeking, let them all come out so the area is cleaned out in no time

...unles youre going Hard I guess

[tame oracle]

any tips for iron man mode rn, its a pain in the ass

[somber monolith]

even in hard it works to your advantage

[final ember]

been playing Hard for a while but on ANA? just...no
they literally just aimbot you

[unkempt granite]

is the sniper 12x scope bugged? 1x is like zoomed out and i have to put it on 2.5x for it to be actually 1x

[final ember]

bap bap bap
3 teammates falling one after another
mf is just one tapping in lightning speed

[unkempt granite]

or is it becaause of my fov and weapon fov?

[hexed escarp]

probably because of your FOV

[somber monolith]

i mean triggering traps on hard ana works in your advantage

[final ember]

I'm sure it does but in my experience its almost impossible to outgun or outdraw them
would rather breach and use less lethals

if you can do it, respect

[coral tapir]

Oh if they are alerted and came out from the reception hall, that would be one of the best things in the run.

[final ember]

guess I'll just have to try more
I found direct confrontations to be suicidal

on Hard I mean

[somber monolith]

trigger trap and hold a corner

[final ember]

def a good tactic

[somber monolith]

you'll win the engagement 9/10 times

they're slow as fuck to actually breach into your space use it your advantage and shoot through doors

they're likely to be stacked up on both corners 1 voice = 1 contact, they also have different voicelines that let you know if its 1 or a group, if its 1 he'll say stack up and then immediately breach (indicating he has no one with him) otherwise they wait for more people to get into the stack and then breach

theres some ball for you

[unkempt granite]

are the dudes on narcos active shooters or why are they so aggro?

[hexed escarp]

actively replaying ANA rn and theres no helicopter its just their radio connection being bad

helicopters dont sound like how the static on the MLO radio's does

[cedar mulch]

They are the Cartel’s elite assassins. Police destroyed their car shop and port, so they’ve sent men to take revenge on the police, hoping to kill as many as possible.

[unkempt granite]

so i should just shoot on sight?

[latent crescent]

fr? they’re dressed up as absolute numpties

[stoic thistle]

Are the signs outside Gerard's house talking about the United States Geological Service?

[cedar mulch]

Car dealership is where cartel uses to transport goods to Mafia’s port

[latent crescent]

yeah, buy cheap buy twice
stupid mission i hate it havent touched it after i did it on hard

[hexed escarp]

why would they dress up like super elite special cag ops when they're going through regular neighborhoods

[cedar mulch]

This has nothing to do with their appearance. Their looks are simply reused assets from the school shooter.

[latent crescent]

yes a tank top and shorts post hurricane is genius

then again, that does sound very cartel

[latent crescent]

oh i see, unfortunate

[hexed escarp]

it actually is lmfao its better for the weather

[latent crescent]

u can legit see the water overflowing tho

[cedar mulch]

Because they aren’t afraid of disaster. That’s why they’re called los locos.

[hexed escarp]

none of it goes past your ankles really

and they're not barefoot

[cedar mulch]

Cartel dresses much more formally at the post office and car dealerships

[surreal pelican]

Port?

[hexed escarp]

also they're not reused assets from elephant no? the elephant shooters all wear edgy all black clothes iirc

on narcos they have like actually colored shirts and stuff

[cedar mulch]

It’s quite obvious that some of their models are reused from the school shooter.

[hexed escarp]

only their vests are similar from what i remember

otherwise its the same clothes as like hunger strike/greased palms/port

[cedar mulch]

The port is where the Cartel and the Mafia transport goods to the Spider Organisation. The Mafia has the ships and the routes, whilst the Cartel is responsible for transporting the women to the port.

[cedar mulch]

That’s essentially reusing assets; VOID has simply changed the colours.

[surreal pelican]

Thanks

[honest narwhal]

What counts as a passing grade on missions?

[surreal pelican]

C

[honest narwhal]

Sweet thanks

[unkempt granite]

i uh

i found someone almost naked and all bloody

[sinful saddle]

I'm trying to achieve ''The Emperor'' achievement. As far as I am aware, the officer traits at the moment are:

Riot Control
S.B.A.G.S
Paramedic
Veteran
Nutritionist
Kicker
Intimidator
Negotiator
Breacher
Armorer
Pacifier
Moral Officer

Am I missing any? Also, Riot Control seems unnecessarily difficult to get 😭

[hexed escarp]

i actually fucking despise ANA so much bro

i go to one of the rooms next to the last one, my squadmades shoot at a guy inside the last room because a door was open, and bombs go off cus i didnt have jammer on

[cedar mulch]

Your rules of engagement do not permit this

[keen rover]

what's the difference between world and weapon FOV? games usually only have one FOV slider so I'm confused

[regal schooner]

do you guys experience an "failed to connect to host" in friends only lobby rn?

[keen rover]

you can spam less than lethal rounds

[marsh lark]

shooting on sight depends on what is the current status of the suspects. Normally though you will get an RoE violation of unauthorized sue of force and then unauthorized use of deadly force

[cedar mulch]

To be honest, they actually spent a week observing the area around that housing estate before confirming that the undercover agent was living there

[keen rover]

does less than lethal rounds still count for violation of ROE?

[unkempt granite]

wdym i just shot down like 6 dudes and toc said nothing

[marsh lark]

no

[keen rover]

then just shoot those

[marsh lark]

As I said. It depends on the status of the suspects.

[rocky plover]

those are all ye, there's 2 more in the files but disabled atm so just unlock those 12 and it should work

[hexed escarp]

as long as the suspect is surrendering you can shoot them

[marsh lark]

You can for example shoot every suspect on Elephant on sight without any RoE violation because they are in their agitated state

[surreal pelican]

I wonder what's the other 2..

[marsh lark]

or let me find the exact name

[surreal pelican]

Active state

[sinful saddle]

I've been trying to an hour to get Riot Control now 😭

But thanks for the confirmation, that's the only one I'm missing.

[rocky plover]

they're kinda useless, well not useless per se, but outclassed by others

[cedar mulch]

What about the club and the hospital?

[marsh lark]

Yes, Active state

[surreal pelican]

Bring the unwanted officer traits and bring them to die

[surreal pelican]

Curious; what are they?

[marsh lark]

Depends on the map. Suspects can spawn with 7 states and certain maps lock it to just few or only one.

[surreal pelican]

Active shooter is def active state on the get go

Then relapse and neon tomb is also already stressed

[unkempt granite]

i think those are active shooters so

[rocky plover]

they start stressed there as well so probably as well, unless they are surrendering

[surreal pelican]

I think A Lethal Obsession too

[rocky plover]

border patrol and EOD

[sinful saddle]

I just fire them and hope for Riot Control

[surreal pelican]

What does border patrol even do lol

[surreal pelican]

Fire and kill them off. Then run gas station

[marsh lark]

Maps with instant Active State on first stress source: Lethal Obsession, Elephant, Nightclub, Medical center

[surreal pelican]

You can run casual diff to unlock traits btw I testedt it earlier

[rocky plover]

swat AI being able to find hidden characters without being ordered to

[surreal pelican]

Wtf this would be fucking useful for post order to chaos

What about EOD?

[rocky plover]

meeeh, not op as other surviving traits tbh

[hexed escarp]

cant the AI do this normally??

[surreal pelican]

I still can't decide between armourer, negotiator or nutritionist. All works well

[rocky plover]

doesnt make the game easier, just make it less lazy lol

[fiery spruce]

Yo no hate here, but does anyone find the recoil of the RTWC 6.5 to be ridiculously low? I mean the screen shakes alot when you shoot it, but if you ignore that and just look at the shot pattern while mag dumping into a wall, you'd find that the recoil is super low. Like lower than the low-recoil 5.56mm rifles (eg. MCX, G36C, MK16, etc.). That, coupled with the fact that the 6.5mm JHP rounds drop suspects in 1 shot to the centre mass in Standard Difficulty unless they're wearing L4 armor means that the RTWC is a no-brainer pick on almost all Standard maps. Not complaining. Just an observation.

[rocky plover]

not the ones hiding

[surreal pelican]

Sometimes my AI just refuses to search despite ordering them

[sinful saddle]

I just run standard, I've gotten so used to gas that I S rank it in less than 4 minutes, sometimes even less than 3. Just getting someone with Riot Control seem to have an extremely low chance.

[rocky plover]

increased bomb timer, depending if you have 1/2/3/4

[hexed escarp]

they usually yell at civvies hiding in corners for me

[surreal pelican]

I just wash them out over and over lol

[hexed escarp]

i guess not underneath beds/inside wardrobes but still

[rocky plover]

ye it's about this mostly

[surreal pelican]

The traits I actively hunt for are armourer, pacifier, negotiator and probably maybe nutritionist

[marsh lark]

A lot of people often complain about suspects not surrendering, but then there is this scenario. They will be unlikely or will not surrender no matter what you do if there is a suspect with high morale around the corner

[sinful saddle]

I get nutritionist, armorer and pacifier/Moral Officer all the time.

[rocky plover]

all good, usually armorer and nutritionist go together, they pair well together and compliment each other

[glass heart]

true but intimidator negotiator spam is pretty op

[rocky plover]

negotiator and pacifier is better

[glass heart]

in either case you arent getting shot much if you just flash them and they give up instantly

[rocky plover]

than intimidator

[sinful saddle]

When I went for S on all normal levels, I ran two negotiator and two pacifier. Worked like a charm. Many suspects gave up before I even did anything.

[surreal pelican]

I got 2x pacifiers 1x negotiator, which of the three do I fill for hard s?

[glass heart]

yeah its very low

[surreal pelican]

For the missing slot

[unkempt granite]

2 of each trust

[glass heart]

i like it with the lpvo because it hits hard and recoils a little

[keen rover]

is dorms still broken?

[rocky plover]

another negotiator for 50 instead of 25%, make it work almost every time, half the suspects on the map basically

or drop 1 of the pacifiers, if you want either armorer and nutritionist

[surreal pelican]

Aight

[rocky plover]

but 2 negotiators is better than 2 pacifiers

[surreal pelican]

Hell nah everything goes to shit without pacifier 😂

[surreal pelican]

How come?

[rocky plover]

free chance of arrest/surrender without even needing to do anything other than shout, the other requires action and LTL

[surreal pelican]

True

[rocky plover]

pacifier is mostly for gas anyways

since they almost always surrender with flash, but with gas it takes a little bit of time

[surreal pelican]

For me they piss off and run away without pacifier

I'll do the 2 by 2 combo of pacifier and negotiator

But I've given up trying to S rank ana on hard today lol; everything went downhill after the first few run

[rocky plover]

that would be the best for S runs, but if you're or AI struggling to keep alive then use nutritionist and armorer but I prefer those for aggressive lethal playstyle rather than S runs

[cedar mulch]

I’m curious as to why most game theorists with large followings don’t make RON story videos?

[keen rover]

RIP game theory

because matpat's not doing game theory anymore

[surreal pelican]

One of my AI just outright dies on ana hard

What should I bring? Trying to go hard s

[somber monolith]

holy shit

[cedar mulch]

He’s already retired. And I don’t think Matpat has the nerve to discuss RON’s story either.

[keen rover]

does ballistic mask actually give more protection? is it worth using over the gas mask?

[somber monolith]

i mean

[rocky plover]

same tactics and loadout for 3LT i guess since its similar layout and geometry, but idk i havent had the time to try it yet

[somber monolith]

depends on the mission and your equipment

[late tartan]

from what ive seen and my own testing ,its about the same

[somber monolith]

does the mission have gas? no, are you using tear gas or pepperballs depends if the red overlay annoys you enough

[glass heart]

it does give more ballistic protection (obviously, usually amounts to 1-2 extra pistol rounds or 1 extra rifle round)

[keen rover]

so it doesn't protect you more?

[rocky plover]

helmet 25%, ballistic mask 33%, gas mask 0% richochet chance
helmet durability of 1, ballistic mask durability of 2, gas mask 0

[late tartan]

but like the gas mask will straight up just absorb bullets like the mandible when it really shouldnt

[somber monolith]

not that i've seen

[surreal pelican]

The traits? I have a rough idea and mental layout of the map

[keen rover]

gas mask has a red overlay?

[somber monolith]

no if you use pepperballs or tear gas and walk into it without one your screen gets a red overlay

[sinful saddle]

[rocky plover]

everything

[somber monolith]

THERES SO MANY MORE THAN I THOUGHT

[keen rover]

does the damage actually reflect where the enemy shot you or is it just random which body part you get damaged in

[sinful saddle]

There's a ton, yeah. I've been trying for 90 minutes to get someone with Riot Control, almost at the point where I wonder if my save is bugged and I just can't get it 😭

[somber monolith]

riot was like the first thing i unlocked

its not like you have to unlock them all on same save right

[sinful saddle]

I hope not.

[cedar mulch]

I don’t think the PvP in RON will be in the traditional sense. I suspect it will be asymmetrical in some way.

[eternal drum]

one would hope so, again though i was seeing the pvp as a test for player controllers

[floral peak]

Gonna remember that, thanks MLOedojed

[surreal pelican]

I forgot what traits u brought; 2x pacifiers and negotiator?

[rocky plover]

i didnt use traits, remember i only played commander mode once for ironman and never touched it, i meant you - what you had used

[glass heart]

yeah your player damage model is based on where you get hit

beyond limbs torso and head it doesnt have any other granularity

no organs or arteries on players or swat ai

[keen rover]

how do you get shot in the head with a helmet tho

[rocky plover]

it updates late, like 1 time late every time you get shot, idk if you can understand what i mean

[rocky plover]

after it breaks, next shot to head you die

[keen rover]

it can break?!

[glass heart]

yes

enemy rounds deal differing amounts of durability damage to your helmet, when the durability is above zero you cant die to a headshot

any round to your head after your helmet breaks is insta death

[cedar mulch]

Traditional PvP is actually outdated. Just as CS2 changed its reload mechanics.

[eternal drum]

no clue what you mean by traditional. you mean whats common currently?

[cedar mulch]

I mean symmetrical PvP that focuses primarily on competition and balance.

But RON is clearly not suited to this form of PvP

[eternal drum]

oh yeah well idk what it used to be like tbh, i wasnt in on the alphas

[cedar mulch]

OLD PvP is essentially still traditional PvP, just with some new elements added

[keen rover]

I don't think RoN should do PVP, there's already other tactical shooters that does PVP and fails. bodycam, zero hour for example

[cedar mulch]

VOID could take a leaf out of The Outlast Trials’ PVP mode

[eternal drum]

oh like a 1vX mode? i mean eueueh its not too interesting to me

[hexed escarp]

just because other games did it bad doesnt mean RON should never try ever

[eternal drum]

that and the dynamic of RON's core loops wouldnt really work too well with that. imagine the TTK for that 1 that vs the larger number

[keen rover]

they did try, in the alpha

[hexed escarp]

that was AGES ago though and they would know what not to do now

[keen rover]

I think if they were to implement PVP, they should have an open beta test

[sand abyss]

okay after all testing I did with shotties and the p90, the LVAW is now going as my go too for elephant

[cedar mulch]

What I mean is that the infiltrating player can control two or three suspects on the PVE map; the rest are hostages and AI-controlled suspects. The objective of the player controlling the suspects is to cause chaos.

[hexed escarp]

that sounds lame bro ngl

if RoN ever does pvp again i just want a regular TDM or bomb defusal mode like CS

[cedar mulch]

PvP can be enabled or disabled; the main aim is to provide SWAT players with some unexpected challenges.

[cedar mulch]

What you’re talking about is old PvP, and old PvP is basically dead

[eternal drum]

like a birds eye view for the thing? i mean there's been a few games that have done that. hostages would be a big pain though if you can just up and hold/shoot them as the opposition

[hexed escarp]

dead in ready or not sure but elsewhere not at all??

weird infiltration ai squad shit would probably be even more dead to most people

[cedar mulch]

That’s not what I meant. For example, if there is only one intruder, He can choose to control a random suspect on the map.

[eternal drum]

controlling an individual suspect, what are the player benefits over the ai?

[cedar mulch]

That’s right, it’s definitely dead, because most veteran players don’t like old PvP

[hexed escarp]

i guarantee you most old/new players would prefer CS-like pvp over pve but the enemies play better/worse depending on the map

[cedar mulch]

The player controlling the suspect can give orders to other AI suspects and can jog

[eternal drum]

i mean orders to swat ai is already a nightmare, but maybe as canon fodder sure. they're just not exactly controllable

[keen rover]

can you give squad commands through their camera or is that only in SWAT 4?

[cedar mulch]

Ides of March and Narcos are actually quite well-suited to the kind of PvP mode I’m talking about

[wind gyro]

narcos is perfect, it can have like 3-4 spawn points

[cedar mulch]

Eduardo and Marcial could be playable characters suspects, and they could command other cartel members; this would also make sense within the backstory.

[wind gyro]

well if you wanna command cartel members, first the ai has to be in a good state

the idea is good tho

[stoic jackal]

One thing I like about Boiling Point is that they kept the dialogue from commander mode feels a lot more interesting hearing our characters say something that isn’t just yelling for compliance or commands it’s a lot more unique hearing our characters shocked or confused

[cedar mulch]

These two different PvP systems can coexist. For example, Dark Souls features several different forms of PvP.

[fossil radish]

The "Coverage" on the armor what does it do?

[rocky plover]

chooses between nothing, front only, front+back, full (with sides as well)

[sand abyss]

in what scenario do you usually bring the 416?

[eternal drum]

ig for fun or to train yourself on semi fire

[final ember]

okay apparently shooting the hostage taker in the body when hes holding someone kills the fucking civ too??
happened to me 3 times now

are they fucking serious with this?

[final ember]

none. it's the worst 5,56mm rifle you can pick

[sand abyss]

Huh so that's why I felt like I was beating my head against the wall when I did 2 runs of Ironman (both attempts failed) with it

[floral peak]

in my ironman i ran with non lethals

[sand abyss]

Meh I just wanted to go with an easier time of just killing suspects in an Ironman run, I didn't really bother with giving myself a brain aneurysm by trying to arrest suspects

[eternal drum]

overpenetration moment or is it hitbox issue?

[latent crescent]

@rapid hearth @near smelt @digital oracle U all can join

[final ember]

hitbox
I always shoot from the side, the hostage and the suspect are side by side each other

[digital oracle]

Ok

[final ember]

shooting the suspect twice in the stomach kills the civ too

[woven river]

how much material pen does it need to pass trough a body again btw?

[final ember]

idk why people flock to the 416 anyway
much better rifles in this game

I guess because its kinda the hottest thing irl right now

[woven river]

i see the f90 the g36c and the mcx straight up outperorming the thing

but the gun looks cool so i guess

i feel like the sr 16 is underrated as well. It looks very good and performs so good as well

[surreal jetty]

I just bought RoN on PC I hope there’s more map than ps5 version

[leaden tundra]

Wsp yall, do yall also have this problem on PS5. If i disable Motion blur its off. But the next time i load it up the motion blur is on again.

[final ember]

headshots work flawlessly it appears
I'd say VOID tried to make it more challenging by making headshots the only viable lethal option, no matter if you hit just the suspect.

[wind gyro]

theres only one version of the game
the only way to get more maps is via mods

you have 18 base game maps
2 for free dlc
3x3 for paid dlcs

[surreal jetty]

Oh ok, bcs I thought there’s more maps cause the game on pc was out like years earlier than ps5 version

[wind gyro]

the only thing you get more is better graphics and performance, mods (including maps), and replay mode

[surreal jetty]

oh hell yeah bro, I want to see it and I’d like to put mods too I saw a map of a big school ik there’s already one but I saw a mod of one bigger

[wind gyro]

maple high scool i assume?

[surreal jetty]

Yes I think so I don’t know how it called, cause I saw a video

I saw also a map that is like many apartments but not like luxury but normal apartments in the trailer on Steam

[dawn solstice]

Anyone got any advice for how to handle twisted nerve it just feels like so much stuff is going on

[wind gyro]

that ones outdated

and gone off nexus i believe

[dawn solstice]

every like five seconds it feels like someones jumpin out or somethin is going on

[surreal jetty]

Oh

[woven river]

suspects can survive headshots... its just that the multiplier for dmg on head is so high you wont see it short of a pellet or two hitting there only

[frozen lintel]

Sadly, “My Eyes It Burns” Achievement is still officially broken on PC for anyone wondering. Anyone who has it is either extremely "lucky" or, I believe, used other programs to unofficially unlock it. I’ve tried doing this legitimately and with cheats over 30 times now—it’s 100% still broken. Anyone sending a screenshot of them having it doesn’t mean it was unlocked legitimately. It just won't work for me idk

[rocky plover]

yea it's bugged, it's even listed in the #❗known-issues-and-fixes

[frozen lintel]

yeah

[rocky plover]

could be either description is totally wrong and something else needs to be done, or it just doesn't work

[final ember]

i think you misunderstood me, it's not about lethality
I mean that it works flawlessly for freeing a hostage, since the update if you manage put down the suspects vie body hits the hostage autoamtically dies as well, which is a very aritifial way of trying to make hostage situations more challenging...

[frozen lintel]

had a dude tell me he just did it and it magically popped 30 mins later like really now said he was on PC as well

[keen mortar]

i lovet he update the only thing i wish was done different is the red dot magnifier not being availible on more red dots

[frozen lintel]

quite possibly could be it as well

[woven river]

thats dumb... so a jhp 9 mm will kill em even if it only hit the suspect?

[rocky plover]

Probably cough SAM cough 😂 or idk he got lucky

[woven river]

achivements sometimes let you have em while being buggy af

[final ember]

bingo. 3 times it happened where I shoot a suspect in the torso from the side. the hostage was NOT in my line of fire

[woven river]

mr SAM might be a factor but not 100 sure

[rocky plover]

that's true but tbh, i have yet to see a guy that he got it legit and with proof, and many i mean many said it's bugged so chances of it "working" in the first place is unlikely

[old idol]

I have played Greased Palms and it happened to me like two times that there is one suspect camping at the truck where you do a soft objective and just refuses to surrender making it a soft-lock for S-Rank (Trust me I've done many different ways to get compliance but that mf still doesnt surrender)

[woven river]

yeah no, this is a bug to be reported imo and not a mechanic because it is very dumb as one

[final ember]

very likely, yes. just throwing theories around
Ive got it all recorded, might post it here

[frozen lintel]

same

[old idol]

Does this bug happen to anyone else or nah

[rocky plover]

infact there's even guides for every new achievement, except that single one

[final ember]

PSA: if you're doing the Bank on Hard on Singleplayer, by god please do not breach with your team. you're muuuch better off entering on your own and precisely picking off the suspects that hide among the rioters. your AI team will unload into anything that holds a gun and they will hit civvies in the crossfire

[rocky plover]

which kinda confirms my theory that it is indeed bugged, because an achievement hunter would have made a guide about it already

[rocky plover]

i still got the achievement with civs dead lol

maybe they weren't fully dead though so idk

[final ember]

C+ score achieve you mean?

[rocky plover]

no the other one

[final ember]

could be. did it say in the end that you failed to save the civs?

[frozen lintel]

Yeah, I tried the method I saw another guy use to get his to pop, but he might’ve been on console—not sure. I just want this mid-ass achievement so I can be done with it.

[rocky plover]

you said hard so i assumed you referred to the heat is on achievement

[woven river]

Better PSA: Do not Do Hard Mode

[rocky plover]

too late 2/3 S ranked already on hard

[final ember]

no armor and grenades? on hard? yeah no thanks

[rocky plover]

to be completely honest with you i forgot as it was one of the first achievements i got since the update

[final ember]

valid
but something tells me this shit still happens with Standard

[woven river]

i fell like m32 spam is easier than using conventional firearms ngl

[rocky plover]

ye i feel you

[woven river]

like, straight up

[rocky plover]

ye that one, AI can use anything so it;s quite easy, just let them do everything

[final ember]

yeah tahts what I thought until I got to see how fucking stubborn suspects are

[final ember]

ahaha yeah I did it that way with Narcos going pistol only

[rocky plover]

ye it is, only downside is, might run out of ammo, or get caught with your pants down needing to reload that slow ass xD

[woven river]

308 not oneshotting torso... buckshot being the very best option

for everything

its all just a bit silly and poorly balanced imho

[final ember]

one of the many sins of Hard difficulty
there'S almost no point to 7,62x51mm

[woven river]

its first sin is its AI

no special forces in the world is omniscient

[rocky plover]

7.62 is only good in standard imho, in hard might as well use 5.56 since it's 2 shot either way

[woven river]

these guys are

[rocky plover]

and ye buckshot is disgusting, so good on any

[woven river]

i use 6.5 on hard to have ''fun'' and buckshot to cheese

[muted current]

Lore/Setting question for the Mindjot data center: are the security guards on that map all supposed to be in on the crimes on the server, and are they involved in illegal weapons trade? Seems strange to me that they aren't all running Glocks and similar handguns common in the security industry

[rocky plover]

haven't used the 6.5 a lot yet, and don't really see me using it cos i don't see a point with it, yes it's good on standard with JHP for 1 taps, but eh i mostly play hard so I mostly use either .300blackout JHP or 5.56 AP

[hallow hinge]

hello, im doin all S run in single player. So far so good, but was wandering if there is any other options beyond nonlethal weapons for those runs? Like small calibers to make suspect give up befor dying? or nonlethal paintball gun is the way

[rocky plover]

they connect to valley of the dolls and the spider as well

[woven river]

many iterations of glocks can and will be found on private security companies because of their reputation in general

it is just simply a reliable gun at its pricepoint

[muted current]

...........that's not even what I asked lol

[muted current]

awesome, thanks

[rocky plover]

less lethal only; m32a1, m320, beanbag (avoid headshot), pepperball guns, taser, etc...

[woven river]

so, what did you notice them running a lot exactly?

[rocky plover]

don't wanna spoil it too much, but i think you already know what they did on those levels, and mindjot kept data on it

also you're welcome

[muted current]

In game, they were mostly running SMGs, AKs, and PDWs

[woven river]

never saw mindjot hired sec running AK's... unless you talking about something else

there is two ways a private security get access to high grade smg and pdw's in general though

either very succesful or illegal arms trade

[muted current]

I've S-ranked all the way up to relapse, got annoyed with getting wallbanged by AI, so now I'm working on an AI mod... And I was wondering about mindjot security because when I was doing security guard and contracting work, I never had access to full auto uzis lol

[muted current]

......no

[woven river]

yeah man? enlighten us

[muted current]

Security guards don't make that kind of money lol
Contractors are usually working low vis type work, suit, tie and concealed pistol type work.

[woven river]

i was thinking more private security companies but sure

[rocky plover]

ah i see, nice, ye i feel you about the AI seeing you and then with perfect accuracy track you and shoot through walls.
full auto in general in real life is ehh not that easy to acquire compared to semi auto - there's a lot of red tape involved

[woven river]

in this dystopian city it seems that is very possible

[glass heart]

red tape being a piece of metal lol

if you know basic gunsmithing you can convert most rifles to full auto quite handily

the law on FA is what is silly, actually making it isnt that hard (which is the plot point of kawayu after all)

[keen mortar]

wait so hard difficulty actually makes ennemy tougher against bullet? i genuinly thought it was just AI changes and amount of ennemies

[surreal pelican]

AI can bring full kit; you just gotta go in bare bones and let them do the work

[rocky plover]

he said, work, so i assumed legally, what you said is kinda playing with fire so xD

[hallow hinge]

usualy some metaljob to be done inside selector right?

[elder walrus]

Is they the replay option on console? I have the keybinds for it but when looking in settings there is no option to enable replays?

[glass heart]

basically semi automatic involves a sear stopping the hammer from resetting over and over as the trigger is held back

if you fuck with that sear, the gun stops when you let off the trigger or run out

[surreal pelican]

Breaching Shotgun or Ram..

[glass heart]

beware this is a felony do NOT do this or if you do dont tell anybody

unless you are a licensed firearms manufacturer

[viscid stirrup]

Can someone help me with Sleeper Agent achievement?

[woven river]

what was that again?

[glass heart]

kill/ arrest all suspects with 15 seconds between each one or less on 3LT

[keen mortar]

so ive just leanred on hard 7.62x51 basically gets the same amount of rounds to kill that lower calibers thats kinda sad becuase then you just loose ammo and control for better pen ig

[glass heart]

the strat is to cheese the game and secure all caches except one and disarm them without arresting them

so they all clump together in an area and you just grab em all

[rocky plover]

i answered this a million times lol, Breach SG

[surreal pelican]

Adding to this;

Main entrance for best chance of getting most of the perps

[glass heart]

yeah 7.62 does not have one tap torso anymore

[surreal pelican]

For ai? I let them run breach sg coz style

[woven river]

that and buckshot still oneshots limbs and guarantee stuns on centermass. 308 is beat by buckshot on hard which is why i do not see it as a real gamemode but a means to get achievements

[muted current]

huh, did my post just get eaten?

[surreal pelican]

Then use arrest cancel method to not make them move

[keen mortar]

yeah fair i do play hard from time to time but if its just to use regular 556 or buckshot its not fun theres no variety

[muted current]

what's the arrest cancel?

[surreal pelican]

Hard is just patience testing mode

[surreal pelican]

Basically go into arrest anim but then walk backwards (it'll stop the arrest process) and it'll disarm them fully + prevent them from getting up and moving

[keen mortar]

but on hard with the increased ennemy health i just either take the MKV or glock 18 now

[surreal pelican]

You seem familiar.... Have we met before?

[muted current]

oh neat, I didnt know that, thank you

[keen mortar]

tbf im not helping myself i dont use heavy armor or a face mask

[surreal pelican]

No problem; that's one way I got my sleeper agent

[keen mortar]

maybe my memory is awful

[surreal pelican]

I run light steel; AI gets heavy steel. For hard I use the ballistic face shield too

[viscid stirrup]

On 3 Letter Triad, arrest or kill 15 suspects consecutively, within 15s of one another on Standard

[surreal pelican]

By chance we're you in the yon server or something?

[muted current]

I refuse to run steel because my immersion lol

ceramic or bust

[surreal pelican]

I wasted 5h doing run and gun method

[keen mortar]

i usually use ceramic but i switch from time to time

[viscid stirrup]

Did you get it?

[surreal pelican]

No; I only got it after doing the arrest method

[viscid stirrup]

Bugged?

[surreal pelican]

Run and gun method is heavily rng dependent

[viscid stirrup]

But is possible?

[keen mortar]

yon?

[floral peak]

my method is go in multiplayer, DISARM everyone (cancel arrest for that), close all weapon caches and then tell everyone to start cuffing them from edges of the map

[surreal pelican]

Yes but by a slim margin.. I suggest you just do the arrest method

[wide verge]

about to sit down and do ironman commander mode in one sitting. the gold watch is the only cosmetic I'm missing still

[surreal pelican]

I did it with AI and everyone except Prescott had to be sacrificed

[floral peak]

Its doesnt matter whos is cuffing

[keen mortar]

for hard what pistol do you guys recommend? because frankly with the thougher ennemies at most i feel like istun them unlessi magdump

[surreal pelican]

Kennyon server

[floral peak]

Easier in multiplayer

[viscid stirrup]

I tried killing method 30+ times. Alone and with friends.

[keen mortar]

no im not on it

[rocky plover]

I did it killing method and it works, just a lot of rng involved

[surreal pelican]

I used to run USP but then now switched to G18-C coz mag count. AI also gets the G18-C; tho my pointman shield gets the Five-Seven for AP

[viscid stirrup]

That's all i need to know...

[surreal pelican]

Better to do arrest method; lesser of a headache..

[keen mortar]

yeah the glock is quite good on semi just for ammo

[viscid stirrup]

Maybe

[surreal pelican]

I want my AI to go use full auto on it

[rocky plover]

👍 , overall easier, but may take more time due to restarts

[surreal pelican]

Be prepared to sacrifice some of your AI teammates in the process

[viscid stirrup]

Not a problem

[keen mortar]

my last hard loadout ive used is light armor G36 and the G18

still a shame the red dot magnifier is only one one sight

[surreal pelican]

Wanna run duo sometime lol

Fuck ana hard s

[wide verge]

glock 18 is awesome on semi auto with 24 rounds

full auto, while fun, is quite pointless

[keen mortar]

also ive just noticed apparently ive done relapse on solo but it didnt count i have to do it again to get to hide and seek on solo

[ashen copper]

I full autod the glock and died imediatly on the pier map

[rocky plover]

sure not this week though cos i dont think my work schedule aligns with when you're awake

[surreal pelican]

Aight;

Let's go kill some civilians in banc next week

[rocky plover]

ye sadly it's bugged rn though when doing a tactical reload, so using s2011-p rn

[keen mortar]

atp id rather do hide and seek solo than relapse again i hate relapse to much

[keen mortar]

wait fr?

[surreal pelican]

Relapse is the introduction to A New America

[rocky plover]

💀

[surreal pelican]

Rip gas station manager (that's him right?)

[ashen copper]

How dya make it easier cause the attackers just capture the civs and shoot em

[rocky plover]

ye has to be empty mag

[rocky plover]

think so

[surreal pelican]

Fuck it flash launcher all the way for hard S

[ashen copper]

Love it x

[surreal pelican]

For lethal C2 then flash flash flash

[surreal pelican]

Ost fire AF tho

[muted current]

could make that a eurobeat song

[ashen copper]

I use the bots 9 bangs on both doors of southern enterence and throw one myself and its always a bloody masacare

[keen mortar]

it does not change the fact that its a map ive done before and its fun with friends but with the AI its just kinda annoying but i didnt know it was linked

[hollow veldt]

anyone got any tips for programmed psychosis?

[surreal pelican]

Same vibes as that one song; the push push push song

[surreal pelican]

Give the bots flashbang; I don't trust them with it. + Larger radius

[ashen copper]

Oh isit mate your a legend

[surreal pelican]

Give ai one shield

[surreal pelican]

Cheers; I find AI miss the door often with 9 bang and stinger

[ashen copper]

Ive had that sometimes which is why i most of time throw my own just in case

[surreal pelican]

B1301; light ceramic, mirrorgun and 1 wedge (for the two courtroom doors left and right) and flashbangs

And also lots and lots of patience and time

[surreal pelican]

C2 + Flash (AI) + 9 Bang for best effect. Haven't tested this combo yet tho

[ashen copper]

Love it

[old idol]

is the vpl-25 really that much better than the tpl

[surreal pelican]

That's what I did for Greased Palms warehouse entry; red team + blue team coordinated breach with flashbangs + 9 bang on my end

[surreal pelican]

Yes because more peperball per mag

[latent crescent]

i understand why theres a 5 player cap in lobbies now

[hollow veldt]

how come light armor rather than heavy?

[ashen copper]

Im trying to s rank hard all missions and on greased right now

[latent crescent]

holy shit that was chaotic as fuck

[ashen copper]

Its so aids 😂😂

[surreal pelican]

Mobility; fucked anyways if they start shooting you at your side

Forgot to add; material ceramic. Sorry

[latent crescent]

more slots, some people run stab vest

[old idol]

Greased Palms is so bad for S rank I decided to skip doing S rank runs on that mission and saving it absolutely last

[snow condor]

Boiling point's ending should've been like

"So, Judge... Are you Ready or Not?" then the credits roll in and linkin park plays

[surreal pelican]

EXACTLY

[old idol]

HOLD UP!
His writing is this fire?

[hollow veldt]

absolute cinema

[ashen copper]

Is this michael bay?

[surreal pelican]

I'm thinking of running stab vest....

[ashen copper]

Your brave

[surreal pelican]

But idk if I'll regret it

[snow condor]

but the question is

[floral peak]

yo guys i might have the Hard S run on ANA

[surreal pelican]

It looks dope the vest but 50% base protection Kevlar only

[snow condor]

is judge really ready...
or not?

[floral peak]

i reached last floor without dmg

[old idol]

I have never done this and Im pretty sure its a bad idea unless its a map with very lightly armed suspects

[surreal pelican]

Good luck; my best for ana hard s was 3rd floor one of the last rooms. Idiot ai got sprayed

[surreal pelican]

Indeed

[keen mortar]

i still have to complete the boiling point DLC but i dont have it i was just playing with a friend and now i gotta wait till we both out of work at the same time and not doing anything

[old idol]

Even then you would rather play these maps with light armor which is superior anyway

[floral peak]

Omfg

[surreal pelican]

Ya, don't need heavy

But I always give my AI heavy. Can't be trusted

[floral peak]

Li just waited until suspect comes and got sprayed

I fucking hate this

[old idol]

I haven't really played most missions without heavy armor, losing a few deployment slots is honestly not that bad in my opinion and movement speed loss is not really that bad even on maps like elephant where it is 100% doable with heavy armor

[surreal pelican]

That's what happened to my AI; with the FUCKING SHIELD TOO!!!!

[snow condor]

Ready Or Not

take the first letters of each word

RON

and what word starts with RON?

ronograd

[ashen copper]

Ronald

[surreal pelican]

Mf the stairs area and stuff was clear; just last room to clear before ascending and died just like that. I even ordered a launcher flash too

[old idol]

elephant is very interesting as a map in that its not that hard for s rank its rather just dependent on RNG on whether or not you will find the suspects sooner

[ashen copper]

RONALD REAGAN IS BEHIND THE MLO CONFIRMED

[snow condor]

and what is ronograd island based off of?
adak island

and what's in adak island?

i may have found the developer's main headquarters

[surreal pelican]

The frustrating part is when you can't find them; they camping at some weird ass room

Same for no good deed

I find no good deed harder than elephant

[ashen copper]

Or like in a cupboard

[old idol]

now funnily enough I remember being really annoyed at hide and seek when i first played it, where it felt on par with greased palms in terms of BS

[floral peak]

i was in area with stairs to last floor, mfs just froze and wont move

[old idol]

but i dont think hide and seek comes even close to the monstrosity of greased palms where you can barely fucking see the suspects because of how many holes that map has

[floral peak]

A New America:

[old idol]

i havent personally beaten a new america and recency bias might be a thing

[surreal pelican]

I don't know how I managed to S rank it on standard; but on hard it's a whole different story

[old idol]

a new america doesnt have bad level design unlike greased palms (from my limited time playing it)

[ashen copper]

I cant tell if im slow but i always found greased palms one of the easier out of the before the 1.0 release

[floral peak]

i S ranked on standart on 2nd try

[surreal pelican]

One time the MLO started to spray the wooden door as my AI was PIEing it and the fucking door broke too

[novel ledge]

lol
I never get boned by silly angels suspects are holding
Just them running up and being able to lay down concentrated automatic fire (I am bitter about this)

[surreal pelican]

Gg

[floral peak]

what i learned for myself: always start clearing floor 21 from east

its easier for me

[surreal pelican]

Is it the one with the metal door at the front and then on the right it leads to city council?

[floral peak]

Opposite

there like 4 doors

[surreal pelican]

Aight, coz I always retrace my steps. I make a pathway with chemlights to determine which is clear and safe

[snow condor]

what if Ready or Not had an intro cutscene where judge is briefeing his team in the swat truck and he says

"Alright, Team... Are you Ready or Not?"

[floral peak]

i wedge 3 of them and starting clearing one after one

[surreal pelican]

👍

[surreal pelican]

There's that one RoN MLO intro someone made. Pretty sick

[floral peak]

i just pray for suspects being normal human beings instead of cheating mfs

[novel ledge]

lol
Do the suspects also have better material penetration?

[marsh dune]

Are achievements still broken?

[surreal pelican]

Yes the my eyes it burns

[surreal pelican]

Probably

Btw; how does the toxic gas work?

I see that it makes victims skins bubble and shit; but if we have the gas mask we aren't affected

[novel ledge]

Some neurotoxins are able to saturate through skin exposure
I believe the game assumes you are in CBRN or Level B HAZMAT equip at the time.
Though I don't think there's actually any gear that really applies to that standard.

[surreal pelican]

But we are in plain clothes/normal outfit; trailer depicts it too. Doesn't really make sense that our skin doesn't boil when we have mask; but it boils when we no mask

[ashen copper]

Are you apart of the mlo?

Were you there in the pier mission

[wind gyro]

i am

[novel ledge]

I believe this is a sacrifice of realism to maintain, you know, maintain the drip.

[ashen copper]

Polo shirt hawaii shirt drip

[surreal pelican]

Would be cool to have a chemsuit outfit....

[ashen copper]

Very in disguise pal

[wind gyro]

[surreal pelican]

I killed King, Prescott, Eli and Swan before activating the switch.

I sent the other element to die too.

[novel ledge]

It's also likely based off something like Sarin gas, which has been used in several mass-casualty attacks
Which, itself can absorb through skin in a liquid form. I'm sure there are much more violent gasses it might be based off of (VX Gas being one) but, the gas itself is supposed to be a fictional thing-

[ashen copper]

PRESCOTT MY GOAT BEEN THERE SINCE DAY 1

[surreal pelican]

My take is:

If inhaled; die + skin will boil and bubble

If inhaled but with mask: noting

[ashen copper]

cant get rid of the fire fit tho

[novel ledge]

Well, it's not inhaled through the mask, it's filtered by the mask- N-4L1's designation as a bio-weapon is also something I just totally overlooked.

This is probably why the mask is an effective tool against the weapon. Though I don't personally know of any biological weapon that is as fast-acting as depicted in Ready or Not (biological weapons are usually engineered to propagate through a population via low initial lethality)

Honestly it's kinda baffling they'd make it a bio-weapon.

[latent crescent]

i think the gas is just mustard gas, its legit yellow

[ashen copper]

Its baffling you know this much about lethal gas im lowkey scared twin

[latent crescent]

its good knowledge

[ashen copper]

Dya know cause were best mates dya mind not trying out on me 🙏

[novel ledge]

I'm sure you're probably right, Rev, but the game specifically calls N-4L1 (the gas used in the pier, the bank, and New America) as a threat related to "decentralized bioweapons"

I dunno, it's a slightly confusing choice. Though I might be a dummy. And am overthinking it.

[surreal pelican]

Well... USIA laa dee dah

[ashen copper]

We love the USIA (getting all the good luck for the missions)

[surreal pelican]

Raid on FISA and USIA hq when

[molten wasp]

King Is a savage with a shotgun, he blew one of the cartel suspects leg off 🤣

[ashen copper]

I was thinking about someout like that like after these hidden endings after a new america

[surreal pelican]

Yehh

[ashen copper]

Shit would feed generations

[ashen copper]

MY GOAT KING LI PRESCOTT AND WHATEVER ELSE

[molten wasp]

Swan

[ashen copper]

SWAN OH MY GOD HES THE GOAT

[molten wasp]

That's why he's my shield guy with a big iron on his hip

[ashen copper]

Marty robbins

Fallout new vegas

[stoic thistle]

Never.

[keen mortar]

appart from buckshot any caliber recommendation on hard since 7.62 is pointless because ennemy can apparently just tank it like its 223

[molten wasp]

Funny enough Swan Is most officer played on multiplayer

[ashen copper]

CAUSE HES THAT GUY

[rare zodiac]

Can someone explain to me how in the good Lord I go on some random’s multiplayer, unlock an achievement, leave then the achievement relocks itself

[ashen copper]

HE WOULD TAKE OVER THE MLO HIMSELF IF WE DIDNT HAVE ROE

[molten wasp]

Lore accurate Swan 😂 armed with 300 BLK, Big iron and a shield

[novel ledge]

The basis of its effects can be related to mustard gas (which had very little dermal effect) and has been synthesized in a weapons-grade state by terrorist or militia style groups- a cartel would have the sufficient lab-grade chemicals and equipment to synthesize a potent chemical gas.

I, again, might be dum. Or the guy writing the descrips might be dum. Because it's called a "Chemical" and then refers to the bioweapons trade. I think I'm thinking too much.

N-4L1's designation doesn't matchup with real FEMA or NATO chemical weapon designations as designed by the Chemical Weapons Convention. But if it were L-1 is a designation for a blistering agent (damages/burns skin on contact) while "N" series agents (produced by Russians, precursors to "V" series agents) are choking agents.

[rare zodiac]

I unlocked the Way Out West achievement and the Heat is On achievement in multiplayers but by myself the achievement is still locked

[molten wasp]

Guess Judge Is a 416 enjoyer

[ashen copper]

Not even that just a magmum hubba bubba chewing gum and 40 rounds no armor no shield nout

[latent crescent]

indestructable gun

[molten wasp]

Really? In IRL?

[latent crescent]

im too dumb for this

[novel ledge]

Don't worry your silly little cowboy head.

[latent crescent]

irl it uses a heavier more robust system compared to the ar-15’s so it can handle harsher conditions far better

[molten wasp]

Does anyone get the feeling that eli looks like ned Flanders 🤣

[latent crescent]

because the germans LOVE overengineering everything

[molten wasp]

Including guns

[latent crescent]

guns engines tanks uniforms u name it

[novel ledge]

Naw, actually, germans downgraded the 416 to get it to work reliably (Gas blowback to pistons)

[jolly verge]

7.62x51 just can't oneshot on hard because of extra health, it still 2 torso shot like any other rifle caliber

[molten wasp]

Do any of you give lore accurate loadout to your officers In QP

[ashen copper]

Tbf i see it

[ashen copper]

If im lying im dying
If im lying im dying

[left obsidian]

Any advice for hard difficulty? I can manage to do the missions but I get C or B and I wanna get A

[molten wasp]

Don't think eli Is the type to use SMG, I see him as an AR guy or use battle rifles

[keen mortar]

yeah thats honestly what i dont like about hard it makes high caliber kinda pointless

[left obsidian]

Sometimes I peak corners to check them and there’s 2 guy that peak me and I get headshot

[ashen copper]

Yeah he looks like a marksmen type fella

[molten wasp]

King Is lore accurate with a shotgun

[ashen copper]

I always put shotguns on my breacher and kickers cause makes sense to me

[molten wasp]

Yeah

[ashen copper]

We ALL using the supernova shotgun

[keen rover]

are suspects with gas masks immune to flashbang?

[jolly verge]

No

[cedar mulch]

Suspect is far smarter and more agile than SWAT Ai. I don’t think that’s a problem.

[old idol]

Random ass question which of the d platoon members got the best funny lines, and why is it Prescott

[molten wasp]

Maybe eli

[wind gyro]

true

[robust apex]

yo we need a target or killhouse reset button in the lobby!

[eternal drum]

@final ember dude i feel that first one. Terrible programming
now i understand what you're talking about shooting the suspect's body and somehow the surrogate hostage dies with him

[pseudo hull]

does incapacitated count as a death for ironman mode watch

[marsh lark]

No KIA's or resigns

[pseudo hull]

alright

[marsh lark]

The hostage does not die with the suspect, if he does it means you just had a bad shot.

[eternal drum]

thats pretty simultaneous deaths right there either way king

[pseudo hull]

i swear suspects are immune in animations

[eternal drum]

my headcanon is that they act similar to hl1 npcs. they MUST finish their sequence before they die

[marsh lark]

All I am saying that in my playtime of this game I managed to kill the suspect without hurting the hostage

[eternal drum]

well it seems to have to be a killshot. i initially thought the suspects hand was hit in the first clip. Not sure whats going on with the sequence on the last one though

[acoustic solar]

Hey, let's switch.

Swap with me.

[final ember]

yeah...its been like that since Boiling Point update

[distant beacon]

having some bugs on hard coop where the ai just will not surrender literally only one guy left and we've shot him with 2 + tubes of beanbag shotgun each and still just keeps shooting us

[pseudo hull]

do they have a bomb vest

[distant beacon]

no just a guy with a pistol on the first mission and having an issue with one on the 2nd mission as well

[idle burrow]

I got halfway through programmed psychosis and im still ~~amd ~~mad

[low bison]

Does anyone know if you can S the "A New America" mission while killing everyone? Me and my buddies did it in ~20 minutes, got everything (auto-completed), and still only got a B.

[clever owl]

i've experienced similar bugs on coop as well

specifically on coop, the suspects or the civilians take ages to surrender

it took us around a minute to finally get a civilian on the floor

[rich ocean]

happened to me once i just reset my game and i haven’t had it happen since

i shot about 5 things of bean bags before calling it and giving up

[clever owl]

while killing everyone?

no, you can only get S if you arrest or apprehend every suspect and civilian

[gusty marten]

We all did dorms loud right

[clever owl]

ran inside with night vision goggles and a stock G36C blowing every suspect open

[gusty marten]

I just kicked down every door i saw and shot anyone who ran at me

[low bison]

Even on that mission we have to go full non-lethal?

[clever owl]

on EVERY mission, in order to get S, you need to go non-lethal entirely

[low bison]

Ahh alright, thank you man, I appreciate it.

[clever owl]

no worries

[gusty marten]

I was so close to S ranking dorms first time until i accidentally killed a guy with a revolver

[clever owl]

i did the mission in like 4 minutes because i just ran throughout the building non-stop

[gusty marten]

The drawings was so creepy i needa know the lore behind that

Has to be linked to the 2nd campaign mission right

[clever owl]

haven't paid attention to them honestly

[gusty marten]

Its just a bunch of cult shit, creepy eyes and figures on the walls

Like the tunnel in twisted nerve

[clever owl]

i see

yeah i'm not sure whether or not they connect to the second mission

[gusty marten]

They're both drug related cuz some dialogue in dorms references buying product

And the drawings on the walls are very similar

And you can find pills in dorms

[surreal pelican]

I don't think so at all;

They just went to the abandoned dorms to seek shelter during Hurricane

[gusty marten]

Yeah but look at the drawings and the junkies there

[surreal pelican]

Nah they just high as fuck

[gusty marten]

They were lit skin and bone your average junkie

And you can find drugs its so obviously a drug den

[surreal pelican]

They treated it as their own shelter + drug den

[gusty marten]

Playing twisted nerve for the first time was so crazy

[clever owl]

i mean yeah, it says that in the briefing im pretty sure

[pseudo hull]

time for hide and seek im So excited (if i die here im sad)

[molten wasp]

Chat who's your favourite officer to play In ready or not