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[covert aurora]

Tho would be kool if it was stockless

[tawny aurora]

guys

how do you remove helmets

night vision, goggles etc

On Xbox

Nvm

[gray quiver]

what does S tear mean as i got it

[covert aurora]

You earned tge best rank you can achieve in a mission congratulations! 🙂

[gray quiver]

damn thats cool

[desert vapor]

Are suspects less likely to surrender to your squad mates then you? Or do your squad mates just shoot ealrier? It feels like since I've started entering room suspects are more likely to surredender then when I send my team through

[covert aurora]

If your doing commander mode it maybe due to your squad traits

[desert vapor]

I play commander mostly. Do my traits effect if my team takes prisoners or not?

[covert aurora]

Unlocked squad traits affect the entire team

But some increase the chance of surrender or the effectiveness of non lethals

[desert vapor]

I know i know but it just feels like when you tell your team to enter a room suspects are more likely to shoot instead of when you go first. Maybe I'm just wrong. Thanks for the answer tho

[covert aurora]

That i am not sure, anytime! Happy to answer questions 🙂

[lethal walrus]

I cleared greased palms on my first attempt solo Im so happy, whatg a shitshow of a level, poor AI teammaters dont know wtf to do

Is it intended for me to be able to use medium cosmetic ammo despite equipping heavy ammo in my loadout? Or is that a bug?

[wind gyro]

wdym medium ammo

[thick dome]

finally got neon tomb hard mode done. (2 man). crap that one is a bear

[lethal walrus]

Sorry I meant medium cosmetic armor

[storm belfry]

Its a feature

Heavy armor and your cosmetic armor can be different cause its your functional stuff and then the look of your loadout

thats why they call it cosmetics

[lethal walrus]

Thanks

[quasi coral]

Gotta be real, while I do hate the immersion breaking bugs to the point I cannot enjoy the game because of these nitpicks

It's still very fun when you do things correctly and just run a mission buttery smooth

So I can look past Eli and Swan in each others bodies because I accidentally bumped into them

[cedar mulch]

。They are getting on in years.

[quasi coral]

What?

[cedar mulch]

swan 37

[arctic crown]

How do yall manage team stress in an iron man run?

[covert aurora]

Non lethal

[arctic crown]

Is there a point whenever I should switch to smth with more stopping power

Rn A Lethal Obsession is my choke point

[covert aurora]

Killing suspects wont stop stress, its what causes it

[quasi coral]

Gerard and his guys are pretty good, but you should be able to stop them both with flashes or stingers

You don't necessarily need to use more powerful means to put a stop to them

[hollow scarab]

whats the best maps for night vision?

[worthy venture]

Pretty sure it’s got four suspects or so

[arctic crown]

Gerard be moving on me like he’s Batman if I don’t stop him early

[worthy venture]

Are you doing lethal or non lethal?

[arctic crown]

Non lethal unless things start going wrong

I’m practicing for iron ma

[worthy venture]

Beanbag shotgun or rifle?

[arctic crown]

Shotgun

[worthy venture]

Perfect, one hit will make em surrender

Make sure not to hit head though cuz it’ll kill them

I had to replay a lethal obsession like 20 times to s rank it on hard

[covert aurora]

Twisted nerve, stolen valor, port dorms

[worthy venture]

What’s port dorms

[covert aurora]

I ment port, dorms

[worthy venture]

Alr

Also the dealership is a good map for it imo

[covert aurora]

Dealer

Yeah

Oh! Lawmaker, rig

[quasi coral]

Lawmaker is such a fun map

I know people don't really like the map but it's the only map where I can do a lot of cool split breaches with my guys

[covert aurora]

I liked lawmaker

[quasi coral]

Same here, it's fun

[arctic crown]

How do I stop my teammates from walking away and killing themselves on Ides

[quasi coral]

You can't

The AI is quite silly right now, but often I will command a fall in unless they are clearing

[chilly thorn]

Imma say it

Home invasion is the best dlc and dorms is the best map in the entire game

Narcos being second best

[quasi coral]

Personally I prefer Dark Waters, but the I have to admit that the missions in Home Invasion have a place in my heart

[chilly thorn]

my main problem with dark waters is that it has ONE map that is kinda mid overall

being the yacht I feel like its layout isn't good for the Psuedo-Active Shooter thing, It would've been great if it wasn't.

I feel like a hostage situation shouldn't be boiled down to just "Time limit"

[quasi coral]

Yea, maybe if the Prince was stressed enough or something

Though I do like the hallway fights I get into all the time

[chilly thorn]

Oh another problem with the yacht

The music sucks

like all these maps got bangers but then the yacht is just...

yknow

[quasi coral]

I don't notice lol

The music for the DLC's are not a big thing for me besides Hunger Strike

[chilly thorn]

oh cmon

Narcos, Dorms, and the Rig?

Dorms has that clear silent hill inspiration which I love

and the Rig music is like super dynamic changing depending on what floor your on.

[tidal sleet]

I play without music

[quasi coral]

I've listened to the full rig thing

[chilly thorn]

play with music

[tidal sleet]

No

[chilly thorn]

why the fuck not its good

[quasi coral]

And another thing, I also don't have music on lol

[chilly thorn]

you peeps are insane

[quasi coral]

I usually play it seperately to see what I'm missing out on

[quasi coral]

It's more of because I'm a "Realistic" type of guy

[tidal sleet]

I want to hear the suspects

[chilly thorn]

Immerision over realism imo

I want to feel like im actually there yknow

[tidal sleet]

both as they talk and scream

[quasi coral]

Immersion and realism is the same thing to me

[chilly thorn]

the music is mixed to be quieter then dialouge so that shouldn't be an issue

[quasi coral]

It isn't at all, not at all a problem

I just personally prefer no music

[chilly thorn]

Idk man, theres just something so tone setting about the music it feels like so much like your really there.

Would you like me to send a really good example on Stolen Valor

[tidal sleet]

same

[tidal sleet]

if I want music I just play artists I listen to

[paper grove]

anyone know when IF the update drops

[quasi coral]

I've played that mission far too many times lol, no need

[quasi coral]

3 weeks - a month

[chilly thorn]

I just feel as if playing Ready or not or swat 4 without music is like playing a souls game without music

just takes away from the impact of the levels

[tidal sleet]

Not really

[quasi coral]

I can't hear the music

[coral tapir]

I keep forgetting how music in this game sounds like despite turning it on 24/7

[tidal sleet]

I hear the phones ringing on Neon Tomb

[quasi coral]

I suppose that is sort of true, but not really

[coral tapir]

The only "music" I know is the one coming out of a smoky barrel from a pew pew.

[tidal sleet]

and first thing I do in games that allow me is disable music

[coral tapir]

At least for this game.

[chilly thorn]

The guy who did the soundtrack put in a lot of work that I respect, Musical Ties, Dynamicly reacting to whats going on and even where you are in the map and what your looking at. It clearly has so much passion and effort in it I feel as if its a disrespect to turn it off yknow

again its like turning off the music to a souls game or minecraft

[quasi coral]

Whattt? I disagree

[tidal sleet]

I don’t play minecraft with music

[quasi coral]

I love the music, in-fact, I have it downloaded on my SPOTIFY

[chilly thorn]

the spotify mixes suck

[coral tapir]

Now that I think deeper, now I think I do remember the one music to refer that the situation is now very tense, don't know any better description for this one sorry.

[quasi coral]

Ambience - Combat - End ambience

It is nice, but I personally prefer that quiet atmosphere only gameplay

[chilly thorn]

They are missing parts of combat for example Valley of the Dolls has an entire section missing + No DLC or Beta Music

[quasi coral]

I don't have VOTD on there, only

[coral tapir]

What is your favorite DLC missions?

[tidal sleet]

and hearing a distant gunshot and find out a suspect is dead

[chilly thorn]

Dorms, is my favorite simply for being creepy

[coral tapir]

Mine is Leviathan or whatever name that lets you roam around the oil rig in the middle of the ocean.

[quasi coral]

Greased Palms, Tyca combat, 23 megabytes combat, mindjot combat and Hunger Strike

[chilly thorn]

This game is the most fun when I have no power and feel scared of everything

[coral tapir]

From Dark Waters DLC

[quasi coral]

You can still hear it with music but it feels so much grittier without it for some reason

[chilly thorn]

The musical choice to make the music basically entirely dynamic was good, combat only breaks out when you fuck up and shit gets hectic and the music reflects that

[coral tapir]

Also, what is your favorite weapon from every type?

[quasi coral]

YES and that is a very nice touch, and it's still "balanced" enough that doesn't affect gameplay

But I still don't have it on, it's just the preferred way for me to play shooters

[chilly thorn]

MCX, UMP45, B92X, SuperNova, and Rotary Gas Launcher

[quasi coral]

Heck even for fast paced shooters I don't have music on

[chilly thorn]

this has nothing to do with the no music thing but I would argue that this isn't technically a shooter, More of an immersive sim since your kinda meant to avoid shooting.

its like an Anti-Shooter

[coral tapir]

AR : MCX
SMG : MP5/10mm Auto
SG : M1014
Pistol : 5/7

Probably don't need to include launchers since there's legit only one that then has 2 grenades of choice, another launcher also belongs in a separate "long tactical" slot.

[quasi coral]

I personally see it as a shooter, shooting is a part of the game for me

[tidal sleet]

SR-16, M1911, MP5, and the Mossberg 500

[coral tapir]

Benelli brand enjoyers rejoice

[quasi coral]

I like using my firearms, it is one of the main cherries on the cake

[chilly thorn]

I mean I guess I play differently then most I value suspect lives more then my own and usually finish a mission with less then 2 suspects killed

[quasi coral]

I shoot if I see a gun raised up

[chilly thorn]

I recommend attempting S ranks with lethal guns I've done all the maps its really fun.

makes you think and problem solve

[tidal sleet]

I may or may not canoe the suspects

[coral tapir]

S Rank requires you to spare the lives of everyone, right?

[chilly thorn]

Yes

[quasi coral]

I have S ranked on accident, just because I performed so well that I didn't need to kill anyone

Joking, just got really lucky with stress

[coral tapir]

I shot this Zahir guy in the leg few times hoping to just incapacitate him only for him to bleed on the throat like what and there's only me present against him.

[chilly thorn]

Honestly the S ranking without using like beanbags or nonlethal primaries makes you go from "boop beanbag" to like "Man please dont throw your life away cmon"

[quasi coral]

It is fun to play like that lol

Just a "Please just drop the gun" type of feel

[chilly thorn]

They can bleed out if you shoot them in the thighs

[coral tapir]

Do you guys think M32A1 Flash is a "no brainer" weapon?

[chilly thorn]

I like the Gas verision more personally

[quasi coral]

100%

[chilly thorn]

Once gas gets fixed yall are gonna see that things true fun.

[quasi coral]

I don't like to use gas

[tidal sleet]

haven’t used the launchers since play solo

[coral tapir]

Honestly M32A1 Flash is kinda too cracked I treat it as last resort or my friends force my shit into doing S Rank.

[quasi coral]

I have really only used it twice lol

[coral tapir]

I'm thinking of using gas instead too.

[chilly thorn]

I used it in the shooting range and decided it was kinda boring so I switched to gas and I had fun with it, I would definently wait for the gas fixes though.

[quasi coral]

Yea it really makes S rank a breeze, personally I see it as a required item to unlock cosmetics

Like a key equipment

[chilly thorn]

They should just make it so directly hitting somebody with the grenade would incap or kill them because that shit would break your bones

[quasi coral]

Good idea, and if you hit em in the head they just die

[coral tapir]

Imagine if this game is less realistic and their whole head pops when you directly bang them with a blunt grenade shot.

(Totally not a KF2 reference)

[chilly thorn]

I imagine we will get better gore in the future

the seemingly silently removed the old character deformation to work on it more.

[coral tapir]

Oh yeah when I get frustrated enough I love wasting flashbang for absolutely unneeded situations because I prefer to easily void a suspect's whole face with M1014

[chilly thorn]

the current gore for lack of a better words is so bad its so janky

like the model themselves look gross and they freak me out but they are so poorly implemented

[coral tapir]

Polices getting one shot with a door trap only for the suspects to go incapacitated :

Suspects suspected to be superhuman??
(They still die to typical lead though)

[chilly thorn]

Ragdolls return is like the best mod of all time btw

[coral tapir]

But yeah one day I played A Lethal Obsession and one door was laced without me knowing, this Scott guy was legit behind the door, I ordered the bots to go away from the door so I could bang the thing with breach shotgun and then...

💥
(I survived cause of my silly idea of breaching a door a few days ago, incapacitating this guy as a bonus and thus I won)

[chilly thorn]

i once was doing an S rank and gerard just shot himself the second I walked in the building

honestly I love that stuff like that can happen though

[coral tapir]

Live love laugh ~Breach Shotgun

[tidal sleet]

never had a suspect do that while I was doing a S rank

[chilly thorn]

bad luck I suppose

[tidal sleet]

Then again I just kill them

[coral tapir]

2 days ago my friend complained about a suspect doing that in Relapse mission

[chilly thorn]

your not supposed to shoot people silly

[tidal sleet]

They “had” a gun

[quasi coral]

Meleeing a suspect that's about to take their own life should make them drop their gun

[chilly thorn]

Suspects can actually fake commiting btw

they will put the gun at themselves then at you last second, its neat :3

[quasi coral]

Wait like it's actually a featurr

[tidal sleet]

never had that happen

[coral tapir]

Yeah I love this game for a variety of enemy actions.

[tidal sleet]

they just end up shooting themself and not fake it

[chilly thorn]

I put it in the little clips

[quasi coral]

Woah

[coral tapir]

Waiting for M32A1 HE
(It's obviously not gonna happen considering we cannot use frag grenades)

[tidal sleet]

mods

[chilly thorn]

there was a fucking lmg in swat 4 so anythings possible I guess

[tidal sleet]

wait what?

[chilly thorn]

yes it was avaliable in the schetkov syndicate

it was pretty bad

[coral tapir]

Honestly I don't get why something like M16 isn't usable..

Meanwhile the likes of SCARs are.

Oh and kinda sucks that we normally can't use LMGs.

[chilly thorn]

I believe its because the Mk18 and M4a1 are like

kinda the exact same

[coral tapir]

And when I think about it; Also kinda gonna further inflate the 5.56 family members?

Considering we got 416, MCX and MK16

Wait nevermind

I'm dumb the ~LVAR uses blackout

[chilly thorn]

ehhhhhhh

that would be kinda illegal

[coral tapir]

I forgot .300 Blackout exists for a second mb bro.

[chilly thorn]

I mean its basically the same lets be honest

[coral tapir]

Also, performance wise should UMP9 be used when .45 exists?

[chilly thorn]

honestly I cant think of any more rifles for the game to add, other then 90s assault rifles.

[chilly thorn]

Ump9 is faster but slightly less damage Ump45 is slower but slightly more damage

[coral tapir]

Right I keep forgetting the difference in fire rate.

[chilly thorn]

I'd say this game should add a Tec9 Pistol, Spas 12, Spas 15, Ability to remove the 590s magazine, Full Lenght G36, Colt Smg, MPL, Uzi, M1911, Desert Eagle, Older M9, Glock 17, and just more attachments.

You can probably tell I follow the 90s gear setup

[coral tapir]

Yeah having the actual M1911A1 would be neat.

[chilly thorn]

I think a tec9 would be funny

[flat sparrow]

Need more ak variants

[coral tapir]

What do we have? Could I consider SLR47 a copy of it?

Kinda looks like one but IDK this thing's origin.

[chilly thorn]

nah they dont fit swat teams at all

[covert aurora]

ak wise yeah just srl47

not alot of swat units use aks

[chilly thorn]

not really a realism thing more of it really just looks out of place

[coral tapir]

But yeah while I almost never imagine a SWAT team using AKs, I do believe the AK-12 would be a good fit if we were to get one.

[chilly thorn]

maybe an Sg552

Also nobody talks about this but suspects need more weapon variety

I would like to see machine pistols, bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns and such.

oh an Mp5k would be a sweet secondary

[coral tapir]

Damn I forgot SG552 exists because of how long I have never heard / see any other mentions of it.

I think we do have kinda... A bit too much MP5s? We got 10mm, MP5A2, SD6 and then what again? A3?

[covert aurora]

i would love a M6 6.8

[chilly thorn]

I mean it would be funny to have another

[covert aurora]

M6 lwrc

[coral tapir]

Replace every guns with MP5s

[covert aurora]

a 5.56 mp5?

[coral tapir]

Now that we have an overkill caliber which is .50AE, why not another? It's another .50!!!
(BMG of course)

[chilly thorn]

Desert Eagle

could literally just be a reward for getting the beat cop achievement

it would fit perfectly

[covert aurora]

wait what about everyone's favorite pistol.....

a P320!

[chilly thorn]

ADD HIPOINTS FOR SUSPECTS

I WOULD LAUGH MY ASS OFF

[coral tapir]

Waiting for .500 Magnum Revolver.

Overkill is peak.

[chilly thorn]

44 Magnum could be an award for Way out west

I would really like to see achievement specific rewards

[covert aurora]

how about a FN Browning Hi Power M3?

[coral tapir]

Honestly a custom animation where you fan your revolvers like in the wild west as an achievement award would be neat... Unless .357 is not a single action and please correct me since I don't use it too much so I forget.

[chilly thorn]

that could be a cool homage to swat 4

[chilly thorn]

im pretty sure every revolver can be single action if you pull the hammer back

[coral tapir]

Next up P30L with a certain compensator.

[chilly thorn]

Can we get a complete reacreation of the Swat 4 characters gear

It looks cooler then the modern day stuff

[covert aurora]

VP9 would be kool

[coral tapir]

Also I don't really get the fire mode change, because I switch to fully automatic and then just click once to shoot one bullet and would just go fully automatic in a dire situation shooting, **so to "Single" fire mode users, please share your take on why you prefer to stay in this mode. **

[quasi coral]

What they really need is the P320 as a standalone firearm 😭 🙏

Actually the M17X or the M18 would be so much cooler

[quasi coral]

Often times unless you're going for that standard issue 5 - 8 magazine loadout, we preferably want to save ammunition

[chilly thorn]

its pretty easy to accidently shoot someone twice who only needed to be shot once

[storm belfry]

AH FUCK, YOU SHOT ME IN THE FOOT!

[covert aurora]

[quasi coral]

Full Auto waste too much unecessarily, I mean, you only need 2 rounds to put an unarmed suspect down most of the time, in full auto, even in a burst, you might put 5 or more rounds on average

This limits magazines a lot faster which forces you to switch mags unless you wanna have an empty click mid gunfight

Sure, you can click O N C E but if you click quick, it'll automatically go full auto and most of the time you'll be pulling the trigger quickly

[coral tapir]

I see, thanks guys.

[quasi coral]

In short :
The special forces guys said so

[coral tapir]

Reminds me of that "No full auto in the building!!"

[chilly thorn]

glock 17

[quasi coral]

In both cases it hurts 😎

[quasi coral]

Ah yes I'd love a Glock 19 with a different label on

[chilly thorn]

It looks older and I like older guns more

and a glock 17 and 19 look very different too

[quasi coral]

There is more to the label but yea they are P R E T T Y much the same thing

[quasi coral]

Very is a strong word, it does feature a longer barrel and slightly larger magazine

[chilly thorn]

I mean, Theres like 4 different mp5s with only 2 of them being really different

so.....

[quasi coral]

I do think the MP5 variants are way too much

[chilly thorn]

Nah they dont need to be changed their neat

[quasi coral]

But the big ol 3 had distinct features that atleast seperated them

[chilly thorn]

nothing wrong with more variety

[quasi coral]

10mm / 9mm, clean no rail look / 9mm, tactical railed

[quasi coral]

What I'm sayin bru we need more P320's than the primary modified one we have now

[chilly thorn]

Suspects have a p320 I believe

[quasi coral]

They do, and that makes me sad

[chilly thorn]

I think I've unironically seen it fire when they drop it more then any other gun in the game lol

[chilly thorn]

Don't not count the Mp5sd since thats the nicest looking one

[quasi coral]

It is unecessary but cool looking

[coral tapir]

What is your favorite appearance of MP5s? I love the look of 10mm Auto.

[quasi coral]

I loved it when it came out

[quasi coral]

The clean original no rail MP5 has it for me

[coral tapir]

Now I typically don't favor MP5 in general but the 10mm Auto is undeniably nice imo.

[chilly thorn]

I swear on my SOUL its better then the rest of the mp5s

like it just feels so ough

[floral peak]

You know what’s the best?

Playing Greased Palms❤️

[chilly thorn]

Honestly its not that bad

like its just poor design its not hard

[quasi coral]

Same here, doesn't do the job for me, but I'd use it for the sake of it bejng rhe MP5

[chilly thorn]

Port is like greased palms with good design and difficult

[tulip osprey]

Hey just a question there's a combat shirt with rolled up sleeves every time I wear it and other people wear it it glitches out I choose the color black but it becomes tan camo when someone is close but it becomes black again if they are farr away Do anyone else have the same problem as me?

[chilly thorn]

Its unironically really good just like rest of the smgs

[quasi coral]

So CAG

[quasi coral]

The MP7 satisfies me the most

[floral peak]

Port is easier

[quasi coral]

It performs well and looks really nice

[chilly thorn]

no the hell its not..

[floral peak]

On port u at least have decent cover

Unlike with greased palms where they see you through every object

If compare them 2 on Hard S, I would rather play hide and seek than greased palms

It’s by far the hardest imo

[chilly thorn]

yes but the suspects on greased palms cant shoot for shit

so just stay out of the main danger zones and its easy

[faint pebble]

I was just one shotted on greased palms by a guy with a pistol from 100 yards away. His first shot

[arctic crown]

I got greased palms standard S after like 60 attempts

[floral peak]

Oh man they can

[flat sparrow]

who cares

[floral peak]

I only got one shotted once in my whole playtime

It was on elephant

[faint pebble]

This was the first shot fired and it was a pistol. I was agreeing with you by the way

[arctic crown]

I just got one shotted on Lethal Obsession

Cause I didn’t wear a helmet

[faint pebble]

The real problem is why is my ai team so stupid and bad and the enemy has wall hacks and aimbot. They need to fix some things

[flat sparrow]

average multiplayer experience in any game

[narrow geode]

meow

[lost inlet]

MP5A3.

[faint pebble]

What’s meow

[tepid rover]

Bring Mask in Commander mode

[placid schooner]

Port is Greased Palms but good 🥹✌️

[keen dirge]

I don’t remember what map greased palms is

[placid schooner]

Greased Palms feels like landing on the beaches of Normandy

[placid schooner]

Postal Service

I wouldnt say office since its like the whole warehouse

[keen dirge]

Oh that one I hate it couldn’t beat it

[placid schooner]

I beat it but with a shit rank

I just wanted it DONE

[keen dirge]

I kept dying then I gave up and started getting S rank on all missions before it

[placid schooner]

I should really start going for S rank runs on more missions

[keen dirge]

I’ve done it on the first 3 missions

And had multiple fails because a officer died so I just executed a enemy

[bronze crypt]

Hello

[tepid rover]

Bring Mask in Commander mode

[floral peak]

👀

[keen ibex]

did they not add multiple barrel attachments?

[flat sparrow]

No

[tacit gull]

Remove Commander mode

[bronze crypt]

remove the game

[narrow geode]

Remove or Not

[flat sparrow]

Remove the balls

[coral tapir]

Remove remove.

[flat sparrow]

remove

[bronze crypt]

‎

[flat sparrow]

[narrow geode]

🐟🐟🐟

[pure veldt]

"I'm worried about you, swing by if you need to talk."

[bronze crypt]

doc looks like kevin spacey lowk

[floral peak]

Nah, I’m completely and mentally stable

[vale plume]

That’s doc

[storm belfry]

isn't that the CEO of Evil Corp?

[vale plume]

But it would have multi sight attachment

[quasi coral]

Hopefully they do allow balaclavas to be part of the cosmetics section

[pure veldt]

console?

[quasi coral]

What about console?

[pure veldt]

I mean, if you're on PC you can just mod them in man

and I get that mods are kinda unreliable since they're bound to break every update

[quasi coral]

You'll never see me modding, Vanilla only

[pure veldt]

but even then there's so many balaclava mods you'd be kinda hard struck to find one that remains out of date

[pure veldt]

I mean, not even mods to make the AI harder to fight?

[quasi coral]

But because I've chosen the no mod path, I can't really get mad that they haven't added it lol

[quasi coral]

No lol, not a single mod

[pure veldt]

frankly I've been playing with a gunslinger mod and it's made the game much more enjoyable and much harder to achieve the coveted S rank

not the speed increase mod though that's for chumps

[quasi coral]

I haven't used any mods, I did try the cosmetics unlocker mods but it didn't work

[pure veldt]

there should be one on mod IO that kinda does that

even then there's like a million or so on nexus if any of those don't work

[quasi coral]

I've unlocked everything anyway, not really a problem anymore

It was fun grinding Relapse until I got the Caggington of shirts : The G3 Combat Shirt

[pure veldt]

I'm kinda stuck on elephant rn

mostly just because of the bombs, not so much the suspects

[quasi coral]

Finding it hard to hunt the suspects down first?

[pure veldt]

it's really annoying when you kill every suspect and then you're on a time constraint to find and defuse the bombs

[pure veldt]

nah they usually reveal themselves quick

either by gunshots or just a convenient turn around the corner

[quasi coral]

I've honestly never had a problem with the bombs

[pure veldt]

I'm not a very good investigator

[quasi coral]

I kill the suspects and get the bombs before TOC gives the first reminder

[pure veldt]

oh well I killed the suspects but I still haven't nailed down how to get all the bombs

[quasi coral]

Yea sometimes it is difficult to find em, but often times I get to it quickly enough

[pure veldt]

I'm doing a rerun of all levels anyways so by the time I push past greased palms on hard with AI difficulty adjustments I should be battle ready enough to attempt it again

[quasi coral]

I've memorized where all the bombs can possibly be, so I check a building section first than the other next

[pure veldt]

I just have really bad memory

[quasi coral]

Goodluck then, for now I needa go get ready, or not to sleep

[pure veldt]

k then

also thanks

[quasi coral]

That's also fine, you can just search through all the rooms until you hear a beep

[quasi coral]

I can't recall what'd I do, but no problem

[patent prairie]

The bombs on elephant suck, I can only ever find one

[tepid rover]

Ye

[tepid rover]

Find First the Bombe

Sad Mask/baclavas Are not on Commander mode

[lethal walrus]

Am I supposed to be able to get scores in levels and unlock new ones when playing in multiplayer? I played with a friend and we got a score but when I went back into single player the level had no grade and the next one wasn’t unlocked

[tepid rover]

Who Party was that

If it is your friend Party I think only you friend unlock it

[tepid rover]

Elephant is inpossible to get s rank

[stray oar]

is there any way to get like a face mask without a ballistic mask or mods?

[lethal walrus]

Try cafeteria, table in front after first half flight of stairs, table on the second floor going up those stairs before auditorium, auditorium, computer center next to auditorium, and little table in front of lobby entrance, there’s one more

[lethal walrus]

Only in mp, but I’m using a mod for a balaclava and it’s not invasive at all

[lethal walrus]

It was mine 🫩

[stray oar]

how do i get it in mp?

[lethal walrus]

I think it’s in the customization selection just like the different voices

[stray oar]

bet thx

[lethal walrus]

According to the devs the levels go from easiest to hardest? lol the levels have been a breeze since ides of march and greased palms

The house and elephant are pretty easy tbh

[jolly verge]

@swift merlin You need at least C grade on last mission

[swift merlin]

Gotcha

But uh why'd you ping me here instead of replying to my post?

[jolly verge]

Mr Eman is watching

(Can't discuss anything in these channels)

[stable kernel]

MFW when it is called "bug reports" and the channel description and pins show how the channel is to be used

[wind gyro]

why would they check it

[jolly verge]

[wind gyro]

you just type in there and pray the devs fix it

[swift merlin]

Also why tf wouldn't they put that in the achievement description?

Seems like if they made their game like the discord they would've lmfao

[tidal sleet]

Have you ever had a achievement really tell you the extirety of what’s needed?

They give you a idea what to do but not the steps on how to

[jolly verge]

Why would they

[ebon yoke]

anyone got any sas uniform builds

[lethal walrus]

Wear the classic lapd outfit and download the balaclava mask mod, + old gas mask

[rustic lotus]

If ur trying to get SAS cod4 look ngl do what Ivan said but I'd remove the helmet and keep the headset on or off along with swat 99 pants/shirt if on console

[ebon yoke]

cheers

[hollow scarab]

I genuinely wonder is anything ever going to drop for this game

[marsh lark]

#announcements

[stone bay]

When are we getting pre order guns

[chilly thorn]

next update I believe ;3

[uncut cliff]

why do the cops at the station not have guns

[tropic sleet]

“Some surprises” maybe just tell us since we’ve been in the dark for a while.

[stone bay]

Bescause im here to protect them

[gray quiver]

anyone know any SAS mods that work

[hollow scarab]

is there a way to kill all your swat team

[gray quiver]

thats one of the achivements but idk how

[solemn cloud]

Someone send me a kit dare and ill make it (it can be anything and as crazy as you want)

[stray oar]

when s ranking on quick play should i use beanbag or flash launcher and what should my ai use?

[stone bay]

Dont bring ai do it solo and bring non lethal shotgun dont aim for head u can kill suspect

[stray oar]

even in neon tomb no ai?

[stone bay]

I have developer watch and u can do it better solo

[tacit gull]

just have them fall in and do nothing else

and give everyone flash launchers

enjoy not having to play the game

[stone bay]

I didnt pre order i bought normal version but later i bought 2 other dlcs and on the end i would pay the same price its dumb that u only get launcher if u have preordered

[tacit gull]

free on pc

[storm belfry]

@covert aurora 👁️

[covert aurora]

[lethal walrus]

why dont we have a channel for discussing irl guns

[storm belfry]

#📛guns-and-gear

[lethal walrus]

it just says no access 🙁

[storm belfry]

#role-selection message

[elfin shell]

I just saw the old trailer for RoN (the 2019 one) and there s a TON of stuff missing

[covert aurora]

as steph pointed out we do but you need to assign the role in the role selection

[placid schooner]

Gerald Scott just called me a stupid bastard like 5 times in a row

[storm belfry]

At least its not Brunice am I right?

[placid schooner]

you stupid bastard x5

[storm belfry]

combo move

-5 morale

[placid schooner]

he shot one of my guys

[storm belfry]

Your guy was a stupid bastard ×5

[coral tapir]

No way it came from the same guy who manages to get bombed by the bomb laced door. 😭

[placid schooner]

No way did he do that? 😭

[storm belfry]

Yes he does that

I played hard once I heard him trigger like 3 doors

[placid schooner]

AND HE DIDNT DIE?

[storm belfry]

WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DIE!?

[coral tapir]

Suspects and Civilians will be incapacitated in this case... rather than dying just like us SWAT team...

[placid schooner]

shoulda rushed him while he was down

[coral tapir]

Bozo kept staying behind the door and I legit breach shotgun my way and backed off to not get bombed and then yeah you know the rest.

[storm belfry]

Bro said honk sho

[coral tapir]

Nah I felt nice and wanted to have the objectives green.

Peak Breach Shotgun experience.

Gotta be my new favorite toy.

[storm belfry]

I feel odd knowing I only used flash bangs on that mission

I literally blinded everyone

[placid schooner]

I once used a breach shotgun and instead of letting me peak the door after it fucking swung open and I exploded

[coral tapir]

[placid schooner]

I forgot breach shotguns evaporate the hinges

[coral tapir]

My favorite activity is to stay in enough range to blast the door open wide enough to trigger laced if there is any while backing off so I don't get bombed.

It actually works lol.

I thought of this idea in a few days playthrough out of nowhere and wanted to try it out.

[placid schooner]

I usually stick to the trusty optiwand

Has never let me down

[coral tapir]

That's what I was planning to do until that idea popped up in my head and it sounded stupid enough to let me try it out only for yeah whatever I stated above.

[storm belfry]

I just peak and disarm before throwing 2 flash bangs and walking down anyone on the other side

[coral tapir]

Also yesterday I just found out Breach Shotgun in the head kills yo.

[storm belfry]

12g kills yo

[placid schooner]

How did you even manage that

[coral tapir]

Wanted to get someone into surrender in a goofy way.

[glad mountain]

Any advice for completing Greased Palms on S? Genuinely harder than Valley of the dolls

[placid schooner]

I use C2 for the intimidation

[coral tapir]

Kinda gotta shoot to anywhere else that's not head for the guy to surrender so like the next one I tried shooting head and bozo just died.

[placid schooner]

I’d surrender too if 5 dudes just blew up my door 😭

[coral tapir]

My brother loves using Pepper Spray so much he's gonna be the king of pepper spray lmao.

[placid schooner]

Insert that one bug spray gif

[coral tapir]

Do you guys like Neon Nightclub though

[storm belfry]

No

[floral peak]

Clear starting office, then outside sector, after enter warehouse from garage side

[placid schooner]

Its alot

[floral peak]

That’s my route

[coral tapir]

So when it was like, my early experience with the thing, and so was the game at that time, a civvie with the kaboom vest legit ran into me from afar and...

[floral peak]

Try using shield to take attention of suspect

While ai shoots

[placid schooner]

also hell no I hate bomb guy

[storm belfry]

I make that guy surrender every run

[coral tapir]

So that was like my first and the final straw to not harm every civilians in specifically that stage.

[placid schooner]

I fucking drop him

[storm belfry]

[placid schooner]

I’ve never had a bomb vest on a civ detonate

[floral peak]

If I find my maps I could help y’all

I had my maps with routes

[placid schooner]

even the time where the last civilian literally wouldnt surrender even after 3 flash angs and a stinger

[floral peak]

Just bash

[coral tapir]

My brother does get bombed by the vest suspect a lot.

[placid schooner]

and I had no non lethal soo

[placid schooner]

I lowkey forgot the keybind at the time

[coral tapir]

M320 Stinger exists but not M32A1

[floral peak]

B

[coral tapir]

Never tried M320, is it good for a "Long Tactical" slot?

[floral peak]

But shield is my #1

[placid schooner]

Thanks for telling me after I shot him

A WEEK AGO

[coral tapir]

I do occasionally use Balls Shield too because I downloaded a mod to change its texture for fun lol

[floral peak]

You welcome

[coral tapir]

I love how overkill Shotguns are in this game.

Such a experience.

[torpid onyx]

it's an option if you wanna just be able to shoot out flashes on reflex

once you have a guy with breach, mirror and shield you're really just choosing between doubling down on shield or getting 4 extra instant flashes

[minor dirge]

mb if im abit late but are they going to add any more maps? Or have any plans or smth?

[quasi coral]

Uhh we have no information on maps now, but we have a lot of bug fixes and mechanics coming our way

[pure veldt]

I'm personally highly satisfied with the maps in-game I do however await any future weapons with high anticipation

[quasi coral]

I do await more maps, but like you said, satisfied

Once this game gets free customization for plate carriers, guns, belts, and helmets, I'll be satisfied for life

[pure veldt]

Yeah Ground Branch has it but Ground Branch is otherwise kinda meh, it would definitely make this game all the more better

[quasi coral]

Agreed, or offer many consistent varities for all of the gear

[tired geode]

so when u fail the mission and toc says they sending the feds , do they mean those full olive drab uniform guys ?

[undone bane]

Marshals most likely, they're usually reserved for when swat cant pick it up

[marsh lark]

Overall term, in the game the only federal agencies we have heard of are BDRTAC and FISA

[vale plume]

True

[tired geode]

i thought marshals were like state troopers ad uniformed officers but more on the countryside

cant really think of em as picking up the work fully tactical swat left off

internal terrorism and what not and calling the military

guessing thats when fbi comes in

[marsh lark]

Marshals are not just typical cops

Sure, this is probably not their cup of tea, but they do have TAC teams that do what SWAT does.

[undone bane]

Marshals are the oldest federal law enforcement agency, dating back to 1789
They would still go with other branches before calling them in, but they're no strangers to the situations shown

[tired geode]

its just baffling to me that how can they succeed where swat failed

you said it , not their cup of tea whereas swat lives with this shi

i guess i had the logic of where a bad mfer fails they bring in the worse mfer

[marsh lark]

Right, but this game has strayed from real life agencies quite a bit.

And instead created some derivation of real ones

But still fictional

[marsh lark]

I mean, ultimately the closest fed agency will be called. Marshalls tend to do witness protection as their main job.

protection of federal judges, witness protection, transporting federal prisoners, managing seized items from criminals

[tired geode]

ah i see , just out of curiosity , was there a time when a specific fed agency got called and people just said god help those inside ?

[marsh lark]

Don't think so. Usually this rarely happens anyway because police have one thing that suspects don't, which is time. Usually you will have some barricaded suspects and SWAT will simply wait it out until they surrender. Which means that they can just sit outside someone's house for 15 hours and then it's all done.

when it comes to the very, very high risk situations such as hospitals, banks where civilians are present it is a mix honestly. You will have local PD SWAT team, possibly federal agents. You will have way more tactical units present.

[tired geode]

i guess i wanted to know if there were "bad boys" in the law enforcement , beyond local pd swat team

infamous and whatnot

[tidal sleet]

yeah the game has it’s own version of real agencies

[tired geode]

this is more real life subject im asking right now

i mean in germany u got gsg9 , in france u got gendermarie

special forces but designed for internal counter terrorism specifically

[tidal sleet]

yeah in the US it depends on how well funded the SWAT team is and how close a local agency is to the place federals want to raid and work together

[tired geode]

ah i see , fed agencies kinda get into that role i suppose

as a big bro of local law enforcement

[worthy venture]

Us marshals existed back then?

[wind gyro]

every nine months? i didnt know void developers were so kind to put out single patches

[zinc lantern]

Closest thing I could think of is FBI HRT. You’re probably going to have a very bad (and very short) day if they show up

[spring geyser]

Pretty much the US equivalent are the FBI’s HRT and at a more local level LAPD (what the RoN is based on even including a reference to “D Platoon”) and NYPD at a more local level

Granted more rural places like where I live don’t have a SWAT element at all

[wary plover]

Did the new patch drop?

The one that says that it will have like 200 fixes on 13th

[hazy token]

not yet

[wary plover]

Damn, how long left?

RoN is in desperate need of a fix patch

Gas users been fucked sideways for 6 months

I am a gas user

[hazy token]

there isn't a specified date but it seems

[wary plover]

I am glad that it was just a bug

And not Void suddenly hating gas users

[hazy token]

lol yeah that is a relief. same way with the lighting issues impacting the texture quality or whatever stuff is going on there

[wary plover]

Gas is super strong irl

You can smoke out a whole apartment block

[sand abyss]

I just want to have the ability to go in and not immediately be beamed when my guys just tossed in a cs gas nade into a room

[stone bay]

Germany GSG9 and ksk

Ksk is more like in military field but sometimes do same job as GSG9 ksk aint allowed to operate in foreign country bescause of ww2

[tired jungle]

Huh

[marsh lark]

While the effective range may not increase, suspects and civilians will no longer run out when affected.

It made LTL trivial, though we can probably argue that the M32A1 launchers made it trivial as well.

[pure veldt]

Frankly I wish you could load stingers into the MGL unless that would be too OP

[rotund cypress]

I think the only reason it doesn’t have stingers is because it would be redundant

It would just be a slightly better (I think) flash launcher

[flat rivet]

Flash Launcher OP

[wind gyro]

launchers make s ranking easier than a ranking

[pure veldt]

But the Stinger launchers especially

They're literally just non lethal shrapnel grenades who couldn't love that

[wind gyro]

flash launcher is still better tbh

[pure veldt]

I mean your opinion I just genuinely think the stingers do better in room clearing

I notice for some reason all my suspects recover awful quick from flashes

[tacit gull]

I mean the stun from stingers is slightly longer but if you get in the room it wont matter much

aswell as the fact you cant accidentally hit yourself with flashes if you have goggles

Plus if we're talking no launchers the bounce from the stinger is awkward as fuck

[jolly verge]

Stun duration is always 8 seconds and 4 on hard for both flashbang and stinger the only difference is extra 2m radius and high damage if stinger exploded near someone's legs

40mm flash and stinger have the same radius and damage health tho

[tired geode]

well thanks for all the info

[storm sage]

hey guys!, i completed elephant (like i didn’t stop at soft complete, i did everything i could until it took me out) and i ended with an F and unlocked the next mission but elephant still says unresolved?, not played much for a few months so not too sure if im just missing something

[flat rivet]

100% accurate.

Only thing I used on my iron man s tier run

[devout lily]

can anyone explain why that on the twisted nerve level (on my ironman mode run) one of the suspects just ignored all rounds from my beanbag shotty AND tanked a full pistol mag???

[zinc lantern]

built different

[ebon yoke]

Does anyone know any British based uniform based mods, OR general police gear and uniform mods? COuld you send some?

[lost inlet]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/922350557031702608

[lost inlet]

You missed your shots.

[devout lily]

Missed shots include blood and hit reactions?

[lost inlet]

Any video about it?

[devout lily]

I didn't clip it, no

[lost inlet]

Unlucky then.

Just shoot slower instead of mag dumping as fast as possible.

That’s the number 1 mistake when using pistol.

[devout lily]

After each shot with the beanbag shotgun I waited for him to stop reacting while I was shouting, and then I pulled out the pistol and mag dumped him

Still didn't get anything

[lost inlet]

Yeah, you missed most if not, all of your pistol shots.

[devout lily]

I definitely missed some, but not most

There was too much blood if I had only hit a few

[earnest mist]

Y'all how tf do I beat elephant

[cursive minnow]

Focus suspects, leave bombs and civs till after all suspects are down. The rest is completely RNG.

[patent prairie]

Skip civs, find suspects, kill or arrest all suspects, locate bombs, arrest civs

[earnest mist]

BOMB(S)???

Sigh I can't find the hostage

And I failed the save all civ

[shell cedar]

is bomb timer still 18 mins?

[earnest mist]

PHEW

Which gun is the best

[covert aurora]

Yes

[earnest mist]

Huh

[covert aurora]

Their all viable tbh.

[earnest mist]

Oh

[covert aurora]

Alot of people use the sr16

[earnest mist]

Is there something strong with acceptable recoil

[covert aurora]

🤔

Maybe SA58?

[thorny kettle]

Am I the only one who's slightly irked, and always WILL be irked that the devs modeled the 590M shotgun, rather than the traditional 590 pump?

I get why, diversity. It's a mag-fed shotgun. That's cool.

Just wish we could've got the pump version too...

[earnest mist]

Wait tf

Oh shi

The bomb went off🥀

I got 3 killed in action

Sigh

Well at least

All the shooters are also KIA

🥲

[covert aurora]

So do i, i would like a pump with just a pistol grip no stock. Like the breaching expect with lethal rounds.

[thorny kettle]

k a m a k a i z e

[earnest mist]

DUDE.

ARE YOU SERIOUS I WAS SECONDS AWAY

OMGGGG

Wait SR-16 lowk pretty good

Woah

[thorny kettle]

I like the SR-16

Definitely one of the better AR's in the game

[earnest mist]

Alr

[pure veldt]

I'm plain Jane so my favorite is just the MK18 with the VFG

[earnest mist]

Lowk what if RoN had pvp

[pure veldt]

At a point it did

[earnest mist]

No flashy moves/sprint

Just pure accuracy and skill

[pure veldt]

I mean it's feasible, it would presumably be like SWAT 4's, however the thing is there's no high market demand for a game like that right now

I mean we've got sandstorm, ground branch, and countless others that have PVP, I think RoN's uniqueness lies in its mainly PVE gameplay

[earnest mist]

Maybe

[pure veldt]

But PVP wouldn't be the worst thing

[earnest mist]

Cuz cod kids like flashy movements

[pure veldt]

If this game did it then they could probably get a lot more popularity

[earnest mist]

They move like monkies in the Amazon forest

[pure veldt]

Not saying the game isn't already popular

[earnest mist]

Fr

[pure veldt]

The Cod-oids have played it, Joe Bartolozzi, Russian Badger, several more

It's just a very fun game because of its uniqueness in the sense that you are not encouraged to go right for the kill

You are encouraged to try to find much more peaceful outcomes

[surreal edge]

Hey i haven't been following the game for about a year now... and i was just about to hop on yet i see that there was some graphical downgrade like half a year ago? And im wondering if they fixed/reversed that... or are they going to fix it in an upcoming patch?

[pure veldt]

Beats me, it does suck though, I would like to run it at full graphics especially since I bet it would look much better

And I do run it at full graphics but I feel like there's missed potential

[surreal edge]

but is there any news of them saying they will fix it? or anything about graphics related?

[pure veldt]

Well I haven't heard anything of the likes

The censorship is planting it's feet though so worrying about that is crying in the rain

[storm belfry]

SR-16 ain't just good

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

Full auto makes me giggle

Zero recoil, while it makes anything else explode

[surreal edge]

i dont know much about that eather... what did they censor?

[storm belfry]

@surreal edge

[pure veldt]

Mostly just nudity

[storm belfry]

(I just pinged Eman with that, my days are numbered now)

[pure veldt]

I mean the only thing that bummed me out is that they removed damaging ragdolls, it makes firefights feel flat

[storm belfry]

no more naked men running around Lethal Obsession

[storm belfry]

I gotta agree cause I'm putting like 5 rounds into a guy and he just has a comically large blood decal

[pure veldt]

Yeah they can take away the streakers and all that just give me a mod that adds back ragdoll damage

[storm belfry]

I don't get why the got doubled with both Nudity and Gore

I get censored nudity

but like, the game is like 95% lethal weapons and 40% weapons that would leave quite the hole

[pure veldt]

Yeah if I hit a suspect with a 12 gauge slug at point blank to the head I kind of expect a watermelon effect if I don't get that it bores me

I mean come on even Fallout 3 had this and Fallout 3 was censored to crap by console release

[storm belfry]

Fallout 4 has this shit😭

I'm asking for if I lay 30 rounds of 7.62 that the guy will be sent tumbling not that he goes "honk shoo mememememe"

[covert aurora]

You should be fine

[pure veldt]

There has to be a mod that adds it back surely right

I don't want the nudity back I just want the damage effects back

[storm belfry]

The chances are low but not zero

[storm belfry]

Probably

There is uncensored or not

I think

[covert aurora]

Its not like you did it on purpose your fine

[pure veldt]

Well yeah but I don't want the nudity

[storm belfry]

same

[pure veldt]

I play RoN for the gritty combat

[storm belfry]

If i wanted nudity Id just play a hoyo game

I'm here to larp as a super intelligent tactical officer

(I'm none of those)

[pure veldt]

I'm not sure about the intelligent part

Judge is at most of a sub-average IQ

[storm belfry]

playerbase makes Judge Sub Average or John Wick

There's no in-between

Either sub-brick or enlightened brick

[pure veldt]

I once made the tactical decision to throw a sting ball at an odd corner, it went back, hit my team mates and somehow killed one, and then they gunned me down

Well okay it wasn't a sting ball it was a fucking hand grenade

[storm belfry]

Yeah that's more like it

[pure veldt]

That I geniusely modded into the game where hand grenades are possibly the worst option to pick

[storm belfry]

yeah

[covert aurora]

@pure veldt check your DMs 🙂

[pure veldt]

Thanks bro

[covert aurora]

welcome! hope that helps!

[covert aurora]

i sent him a link to a mod

[storm belfry]

Ohhhh

[mellow zenith]

I’m a little bit late but we finally got an update

[arctic crown]

What’s hardest S rank?

[quasi coral]

Still no update

Will I ever be ready? For hybrid sights of course

I really need them hybrid sights I can't take it anymore

[lost inlet]

update isn't coming at least till June.

[quasi coral]

Why is he lying?

[storm belfry]

@quasi coral is it your birthday?

[lost inlet]

that's my rule of thumb with how void releases updates.

[quasi coral]

Why is his thumb ruling?

Well, maybe it's true but I wouldn't know because I've only lived through 2 updates since I've started playing

[quasi coral]

Yes it is

How'd you know?

[storm belfry]

MAYBE its the profile pic

[storm belfry]

Happy birthday

[quasi coral]

Well thank you for noticing the additions I put many hours into 😎

[quasi coral]

Many thanks Stepth

[lost inlet]

it's kinda has been like since the early access days. At first they started with monthly basis then it get delayed like 4 times till they landed on 1 update per 6 months.

[hybrid wren]

"wHat ThE HeLl dO yOu KnOw AbOUt It!?!?!?"

[earnest mist]

Hell naw I got E on elephant

How do u even save 3 damn hostages scattered in different places

[maiden sequoia]

Your supposed to go for the suspects

[storm belfry]

You take down the shooters and bombs

[formal flume]

[earnest mist]

In my 10+ runs ive never seen a hostage

Dude tf is this luck

[quasi coral]

Oh my goodness it's him!! The USIA's guy

Well ya know I'll let it off a bit to ask if the Magnifier is a seperate attachment addon or theres set hybrid sight combos as an option

[covert aurora]

an excellent question! i am curious about that too

[quasi coral]

Mhm, I am EXTREMELY worried because the developers only announced the G23/ Red Dot combo

[covert aurora]

oh?

[covert aurora]

i am guessing your wanting a holo+magifier

[quasi coral]

How did you know?!

[covert aurora]

lucky guess

[floral peak]

He felt like it

[quasi coral]

But yes, it is my very wish that it would be added

[quasi coral]

I'm feeling it too

And no USIA higher up has confirmed it

[covert aurora]

would need a need addition along side the reddot

[quasi coral]

Of course, but if the magnifier was an addon to the sight, than the red dot would be remodeled

[covert aurora]

fair enough

personally i am more of a red dot person

[storm belfry]

Pistol red dot my beloved

[covert aurora]

holos are kool don't get me wrong

[quasi coral]

I saw you as a friend, a brother, but I guess this just ain't gonna work out

[covert aurora]

🙁

[quasi coral]

[floral peak]

[covert aurora]

[quasi coral]

Well unless the developers walk in right now and give my account supporter edition for free wink wink

[covert aurora]

[quasi coral]

I'm waiting

[covert aurora]

🤔

[mystic palm]

Any tips for the trophy meldonin? Im trying to get it but rng hates me

[hybrid wren]

Sins of the Father is too dark

Like really it's supposed to be an illuminated building right?

I can barely see shit

[covert aurora]

which trophy is that?

[hybrid wren]

Although regardless of that mission turned out to be easy

Just order around your numbnut teammates and they easily clear the SS

[covert aurora]

the one where you clear dorms under 5mins

[covert aurora]

i mean the attack on the freemont family seems to have done quite a bit

[mystic palm]

Yh

[covert aurora]

it takes abit but it's do able

[lost inlet]

@pale pecan why did i hear L4D2 Ellis's screaming in the clip?

[quasi coral]

I prefer it that way, actually

[covert aurora]

honestly i agree, the darker the level the better, nvgs ftw!

[lilac hull]

NODs are fun, but tactics be damned so is just busting in with super aggressive white light

Very kino

[covert aurora]

true

[wary plover]

?????

why?

[quasi coral]

Well said 😎
Although, we need illuminators in the future, sometimes I can't see for nothing..

[solemn cloud]

Valid reason

[prime field]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

has this been in here long?

[pale pecan]

It was a secret that was removed in dlc 3 for obvious reasons

[unique verge]

Can we get better attachments/rework it’s like a child chose the lams

[wind gyro]

does he know

[unique verge]

I know we’re getting the two attachments. The lams themselves is what id like changed lol peq & mawl should have a vis setting. Steiner cqbl is a joke. Bf6 had better attachments at this point

[storm belfry]

He is not informed

[wind gyro]

its like bf6 has a better development team

more developers i mean

[jolly verge]

What exactly?

[prime field]

[ADD NARRATIVE PARAGRAPH]

[jolly verge]

Ask the author of this mod then

[prime field]

honestly couldn't remember if it was a mod or not

[jolly verge]

It is modded text

[storm belfry]

Mod or Not

[jolly verge]

[storm belfry]

[ADD REPLY PARAGRAPH]

[unique verge]

Fair enough but voids had years & and claims to be the realistic shooter.

[jolly verge]

Realistic shooter

[wind gyro]

and so it is

[lost inlet]

people still fell for it.

[uneven robin]

Fr

[naive isle]

Hi, I’ve got a question regarding the Beat Cop achievement. I have been trying multiple times without success. I didn’t use anything outside of my secondary, Kick and Report (as well as issuing commands). I have been trying in quick play which worked fine for other Achievements. Does anyone have any tips on what I’m missing?

[granite elk]

Are they slowing censoring ready or not, I was just playing the gamer mission and they changed the pictures on his bed side table to pictures of mindjot pcs?

Why are we censoring a swat game

[lost inlet]

so console players can also plays ron.

[lethal walrus]

Is it true officers can be equipped with a single magazine and they have infinite ammo?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[jolly verge]

No lockpick and grade C as minimum?

[granite elk]

So what they shouldn’t be censoring it, beats the whole point of the game

[storm belfry]

So true

[storm belfry]

Are you saying naked men are the point of a SWAT shooter?

[marsh lark]

Because they would need to maintain 2 separate builds

With the development team size, that is just not worth it.

[storm belfry]

People just won't let void get a bag

[naive isle]

Yes both. 👍

[marsh lark]

Outside of that, people suggest Void stands up to them. No, review boards are not going to listen to an Indie company. But if you feel like you can move things up, feel free to write them an email to change their policies.

🤷

simple

[storm belfry]

Alright booking a flight

[jolly verge]

No shields on swat ai too? What commands did you issued? If you have a full clip of your playthrough I would to like to see it

[lethal walrus]

It’s fucking bullshit they censored the pc version, and you know it

[storm belfry]

No its not

[lethal walrus]

Absolute fucking bullshit, to get a product censored after it’s bought and paid for

[naive isle]

I currently don’t have a clip sadly. I could make one later tho.
I only did “kick and clear” as well as to tie civilians / suspects up which I shouted at.
And I don’t have shields equipped. That’s why I’m kinda clueless. I even switched PCs. 😅

[storm belfry]

Just get uncensored or not

[lethal walrus]

That’s not the point, I shouldn’t have to get anything

[lost inlet]

i mean, the game still leaves you with enough clues for you to pieces things together.

you just need to takes extra 10 seconds to find the clues and there you go.

[storm belfry]

You even know what the censored?

why did he stop replying hmm

[marsh lark]

I'll tell you what I told everyone. If it troubles you, you can refund the game. If Steam won't refund it, you can go ahead and visit your local office to request a refund.

The PC version is not getting uncensored until there will be 2 separate builds, which is not happening in any near time because of the development size.

[lethal walrus]

Very comfortable answer

[lethal walrus]

I appreciate this far more

[lethal walrus]

Because I see no sense in replying to someone defending censorship with very feeble arguments honestly, it's pointless

[storm belfry]

you didn't even answer the question

[marsh lark]

The core problem of all of this are review boards and their regulations unfortunately. Void cannot just stand up to them, otherwise the game would be banned from consoles. There is also no simple way to create a "toggle" button since these review boards look at the game files, and if such things exist it will fail the certification proccess.

Because of that they would need 2 separate builds. One for PC with all the details, gore and so on, and console version with less details. It could however induce crossplay issues.

In any case, Void has around 70 members and not all of them are developers.

[lethal walrus]

answer is yes, I'm done discussing this with you because you circumvent the real issue which was censorship itself and I do not want to get into a pointless frey

[lethal walrus]

Thank you for taking the time to answer that

[vale plume]

Shotgun

[storm belfry]

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking

Is the argument to me that you aren't able to see naked people and mortal combat level finishers in a simple shooter

[marsh lark]

There is no simple fix for the current predicament with how Void is structured. People can be upset over it, I am not suppressing or silencing anyone. Whatever decision Void would have made would upset one group of players/people.

[lethal walrus]

again, not the point, and we are all mature people here, the concern was about censorship post sale, which Medojed has kindly answered

[lethal walrus]

got it, ty

[marsh lark]

Trust me, no one wanted censorship. Void did not even think of the censorship until they went through the certification. After that they realized that they actually had to change the game details and files just to pass it. However there is going to be no more reduction in gore or other graphical details since the game is already certified.

[lost inlet]

you forgot the face getting carved in inward.

[maiden sequoia]

[cedar mulch]

These are minor issues; the real problem is that Void scarcely updates the game or introduces new mechanics.

The true players have genuinely let it go.

[brittle wind]

Takes a while for a team of 50-60 people to deliver good quality content, but looking at the previous updates months ago the updates didn’t do much to improve the game

Just praying this next update they actually took their time with it

[marsh lark]

I disagree on this front. People who like the game come back. There is no game in the world that kept me hooked to play it without breaks

I could stand 1-2 weeks at most tbh

[wind gyro]

why enemy wallhack

i explode 3 c2 next room and enemy wallhack

[naive isle]

Quick follow up. I figured it out. The Tablet counted as another object. My bad. Thanks for your help. I appreciate it :)

[granite elk]

Because it’s supposed to to be a realistic take on a police shooter I mean there’s a whole school shooting level?

Or the naked girls in the container

[storm belfry]

They removed extreme gore and naked people

[winter tusk]

its fine. mods are here to help

[granite elk]

It’s still on my game it’s just the table?

Also what does PlayStation have to do with the censoring

[granite elk]

Exactly

[storm belfry]

Playstation wants a clean look

Even if they've had a horrible past

[granite elk]

I don’t get why ther fight so hard for the school shooting level to not be censored but then they do taht just because I bigger company said so

Atleast they’ve keep it pretty much all the same on steam

[winter tusk]

yet we able to empty 400+ rounds into civis at an airport while remembering "no russian"

[storm belfry]

That was back in the day

[granite elk]

Not really

[storm belfry]

Times changed fast

[granite elk]

Also what airport

[storm belfry]

For psn at least

[winter tusk]

UNCULTURED

mods ban him

[winter tusk]

mw2

[granite elk]

Is it a modmap or the real event

[storm belfry]

We've a hell of a time between the old cods and the era of RoN

[granite elk]

I see I’ve never played call of duty that much

[storm belfry]

Id say the main breaking point was the communities getting banned

[winter tusk]

oh..

[winter tusk]

but its the og mw2 tho

[storm belfry]

@granite elk funny how Playstation has always said they didn't want to have roblox for child safety concerns

Playstation has always been picky with their stuff

[winter tusk]

screw ps

[storm belfry]

At least ps+ ain't costing us as much as Xbox live

😭

[winter tusk]

im wayyyy too high to understand wym. i apologize for that

[storm belfry]

Playstation's Online Subscription costs less than Xbox's Online subscription

[winter tusk]

fr? i thought it was the other way round

[storm belfry]

Its more like a back and forth kinda deal

[winter tusk]

ah

[storm belfry]

PS base cost is like 11, Xbox is 10 but PS extra is 15 and Xbox is upwards of 20

[winter tusk]

errrrrrrrrrrr

[storm belfry]

So base Xbox is cheaper but for extra games Sony has the cheaper options😭

[winter tusk]

im way too baked

[storm belfry]

sighhhhh did you spend to long in the bakery?

[winter tusk]

syd has the best jeans

[winter tusk]

wutt?

[winter tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/sydney-sweeney-great-jeans-american-eagle-sexy-hot-gif-8304552973782141378

[gritty nova]

Is this gore still working? When I shoot someone they just die and they don’t even bleed from where I shot them

[winter tusk]

u nid BBB mod

and 1 other mod that i cant rmb the name of it

OH visceral blood

[gritty nova]

So the base game has zero bullet holes/bleeding after shot stuff? I thought it did

[storm belfry]

It does for some hit areas

[brittle wind]

You need to use 12 gauge to blow off limbs, you can only blow off forearms and below the knee

You can’t blow off heads sadly only half of a dudes head

[granite elk]

Makes sense, just kinda disappointed in void for doing to bc they said so but I get they need money

As long as they keep the steam version the way it is everything’s good 🥹🙏

[marsh lark]

Well, by the statement of the devs. They had no idea this would happen or need to be a requirement. It occured once the certification proccess started. Scrapping the progress they made wouldn't be great.

[bleak storm]

Is there a place I can make suggestions for new maps or something

[jolly verge]

Working just fine for me

[gritty nova]

I’m not talking about decapitation

[wind gyro]

#📩feedback-reports-channel #1050529506022137876

[bleak storm]

Thanks.

[glad mountain]

Did Void ever completely kill the PvP mode or is it still “planned for the future”?

[wind gyro]

killed

[low zodiac]

Future.

[subtle mantle]

does anyone know how to fix ai teammates clipping through each other when open and clear command is given?

[wind gyro]

you dont