👮ron-discussion

[cedar mulch]

Is there a sequel to Glukhovskoye Mafia?

[tacit gull]

what

[cedar mulch]

Do those Russians have any follow-up storylines?

[tacit gull]

Why would i know?

[crisp hull]

relapse is some tough shi

got through 3/4 of the mission

accidentally opened a set of double doors

3 teammates dead on the spot

i feel ya

[jolly verge]

At least C

[desert vapor]

This has been an issue of mine as well :/

[jolly verge]

Yes

Also if someone resigned after last mission you still gonna get the watch

[desert vapor]

I don't think you can do it on casual can you?

Isn't it only standard or higher?

Maybe I'm wrong

[jolly verge]

Only achievements are tied to difficulty

[desert vapor]

Alright I was wrong then

[covert aurora]

probably, because your encountering hosts who are far away from you.

[crisp hull]

why do the agents have such a bakery when wearing jeans

[jolly verge]

They have different requirements but devs are too bad at explaining it through in-game descriptions

Killing 1 civi wont do much, but if you kill 2-3 everyone from your roster will resign

It's the same as 1 killed suspect

No, it's gives the same amount of stress as if you killed 1 suspect

Second kill gives like 10x times more stress

So it's basically 100% resign unless you arrested enough suspects/civilians alive

No

Incap = kill

[floral peak]

Incapped gives same as dead, +5
But arrested gives +35 points

[livid comet]

Hi guys anyone that might be able to help? I downloaded gunfigher and some other mods, i extracted them and then i put them into steamlibrary > steamapps > common > RON > ron > content > paks and the mods dont work

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3160

this one

[hard willow]

yo

i am new here and looking for a unit but i don't know who to join

[midnight veldt]

I still remember when the devs claimed they would do foreign country dlcs back when the old website for the game was up

what a pity they sold out to censorship and scaled down the vision for the game

instead they're working on adding shit that should have been added 2 expansions ago not to mention 1.0

[bitter patio]

Im just happy it came to console. Regardless the game plays and feels so good. I love it personally

[midnight veldt]

I assume you have only played the console version?

hell the EA maps were also better than some of the ones currently in the game

especially the hotel

[bitter patio]

Sadly. Saw lots of the pc version when it came out tho

[bitter patio]

Fun but slightly aggravating mission ngl

[midnight veldt]

fair, the game is honestly just watered down, gamemode selection disappeared, censorship, some of the maps used to be bigger and better and now they're just cut versions

and the 2 expansions which I bought out of support for the game are just shitty ideas, nothing mechanically engaging nor the foreign country dlcs they claimed they'd also work on

[bitter patio]

Yea. But alas I will have fun. I just wish we could have the option to uncensor it

[midnight veldt]

no offense but if the game coming to console is the reason this happened, I much rather it never was ported

[bitter patio]

That is lol

Sony specifically i think said they had to censor it

But I dont see Microsoft agreeing to the game as it was either

[midnight veldt]

I mean the gamemode selection, the bigger and more resource demanding maps, etc

censorship can suck my balls compared to the other 2 things I notice are worse compared to EA

[bitter patio]

The scaling down I dont know

[midnight veldt]

hotel used to have like 3 floors including the lobby you could see in the gameplay trailer

[bitter patio]

Yea

I remember, cause people kept getting random flanks and then discovered how big the place was lol

[midnight veldt]

also the drones and ladders never came either

[sharp raven]

Hi

[mighty hemlock]

Wasn't the game rated M 17+ from the start? Microsoft and Sony only banned AO games

I don't seem to understand why they wanted it censored and cut

[midnight veldt]

policy ig

but again I feel like censorship is the smallest issue compared to the removal of map variants, gamemode variants and all the teased content that never made its way into the game

and the dark lighting/mood used to be better too

[soft thunder]

Map variants would probably help big time with replayability I would also like it since in Six Days in Fallujah the marines didn't know the layout of what they were getting into so neither should you

kind of the same thing like atleast in game it would encourage us to look at the map on the tablet because

"Hey what's the generated layout?"

[mighty hemlock]

You know. It's a bit unfair to you PC guys. They could've just chopped the Console version. I'm on console and I see that Sony and Microsoft want it censored, but Void could've left it as it was for PC honestly.

[midnight veldt]

yeah I know, unfortunately the devs stated they didnt want to maintain two separate versions and wanted to offer the same experience for everybody

[soft thunder]

Could of literally just been a filter setting

[midnight veldt]

they don't realize how alienating this was to their existing fanbase, not to mention the resentment it causes towards the console community

[mighty hemlock]

*They don't want to spend money maintaining two versions

[midnight veldt]

yeah, greed killed void

[mighty hemlock]

Looks like it

[midnight veldt]

and I feel like im repeating it too much but this all could be at least passable if they added the drones... or ladders... or the foreign country dlcs... etc

[mighty hemlock]

Yeah they could've just done that for PC

[mighty hemlock]

And many others

EA, Ubisoft, ect ect

[midnight veldt]

agreed, but what is most infuriating is that.... it already was in the game!

[terse marsh]

I now have a favorite weapon aka the beanbag shotgun

[trim wing]

I remember the different gamemodes per map

[terse marsh]

Plus the CS launcher and grenades

[trim wing]

That was cool

[crisp trellis]

anyone got some general gameplay tips?

[surreal pelican]

If civs get hit by stingers, will we get unauthorised use of force penalty?

[pliant nimbus]

how do you play raid mode?

[covert aurora]

Game mode variants have been removed since 1.0 release

[pliant nimbus]

why did they do that?

that sucks

I liked raid

[rich patio]

Likely experimenting game modes. Each mission now has a game mode attached, that suits the mission yiure playing

[rich patio]

I've never had this issue

[covert aurora]

Probably got too much to maintain for the amount of missions so they went with one type, but techically activeshooter and bomb threat is still in the game (IE: Elephant and Replase) their just labled one thing

[quasi coral]

That would be a secondary sight sir

[icy knot]

what yall loadouts looking like 👀?

[quasi coral]

Mags, throwables and a lockpick, main dish is anything AR-15

[desert vapor]

They really need to update trophy descriptions because nowhere does it say that when you have to beat every level on hard mode that you also need to complete every main objective

[storm belfry]

Don't you do the main objective to beat the level?

[desert vapor]

Killing main suspects doesn't stop you from completing the mission

[storm belfry]

Yeah, but, its still an objective you gotta do

[desert vapor]

Yeah but I'm still finishing the mission

It says finish the mission on hard

Not finish the mission with all main objectives completed on hard

[covert aurora]

You can always out this in #📩feedback-reports-channel

[desert vapor]

Alright!

[lost inlet]

ARN-180, USP, light steel front only, stinger and stinger launcher.

[inner nova]

Nl: light ceramic all flashbangs with m23a1. teammates: c2 and flash

Lethal heavy ceramic f90 and sa58 for teammates

[icy knot]

yall loadout good

i use g36c g19 tactical shield heavy armor cereamic

[covert moss]

Use the lvar

300. Blackout

Shreds through enemies like butter

[icy knot]

i’ve used it before it’s good

but i feel like the g36c when i shoot its only one shot and there down

[covert moss]

But every gun in this game is good tbh

[icy knot]

but not like the sa58

[covert moss]

Sa58 is a battle rifle ain't it?

[icy knot]

i think so

you ever used the dm4pdw?

it’s also .300 blackout

[covert moss]

I remember that thing from hardline

[covert moss]

Nah bro I only just started using lethal weapons 😂

[icy knot]

wdym bro

i been using lethal ever since i started ion show mercy to suspects

[covert moss]

Yeah but you can't get S ranks with that

[icy knot]

don’t matter

lowkey it does u right

[covert moss]

Playing the game like batman

[icy knot]

what should i use im about to finish the main campaign but idk how to get a good non lethal loadout

[frank kettle]

Normally I just run B1301 and USP45, both with a simple red dot. Ceramic plates front and back. 5 flashbangs, 1 stinger, and a mirror gun.

And then I'll outfit my teammates with two rifles, usually the SR-16, and two SMGs, usually the UMP-45.

[icy knot]

i give my ai teamates the ga416

[frank kettle]

For a good nonlethal loadout, just equip everyone with flashbang launchers. And carry as many launcher flashbangs as possible.

The launcher flashbangs are hilariously overpowered.

If that's too cheesy for you, you could use the beanbag shotgun instead for extra challenge.

Just make sure not to hit people in the head with the beanbags, as that will kill them.

[covert moss]

the flash grenade launcher and the slug shotgun are good primaries for non lethal runs

You can run a slug shotgun and an m320 flash grenade launcher for the best of both worlds,but you only really get 5 shots with that so it's basically useless on the bigger maps

[surreal pelican]

Why run slugs when you have the beanbag?

[covert moss]

Yeah beanbag i mean

Forgot the game had actual slug varients

[surreal pelican]

Tip: Aim the M32A1 at the ceiling

[frank kettle]

Ah yes, 12 gauge slugs, famous for their non-lethality.

[surreal pelican]

I fw with the buckshot because limb shots

I have one ai using the 870 CQB and the other 3 ARN, with another having the shield with USP

[covert moss]

If you shoot them in the leg yes

Definitely not as lethal as buckshot

[frank kettle]

Can't send gifs here. Forgot.

[covert moss]

Yeah and they have good range anyways

[covert moss]

Theres also an m320

[surreal pelican]

Pair them together for the best effect

I run both when running full non lethal bangers

And occasionally bring 1-2 flash bangs for areas I can't bang safety like GP weapon cache area

[covert moss]

Brah is mr flash

[surreal pelican]

They don't call me the flash for nothing

Thinking whether or not to switch to stingers

Extra 2m range but at the risk of Friendly Fire penalty

[covert moss]

I still haven't seen them get used at all

[covert moss]

Not worth

Hell even the flashes get people killed alot

[icy knot]

i’m gonna try it on the first mission let’s see what happens

[surreal pelican]

Idk if my flashes got the civs killed

But stingers can kill if a person is like really really on the brink

[mystic cave]

Flashes dont kill ppl unless they’re very fragile, but fragile ppl don’t appear in RoN

[inner nova]

I shot one with m23a1 and he killed himself

[inner nova]

Don't give it to your teammates

But i think u can try it yourself the range is a bit too good

[cedar mulch]

What would the old farm be like if it were to return?

[surreal pelican]

Yeh, gonna try

[surreal pelican]

Probably greased palms2

[copper dome]

Wasn’t there like a hotel map? I swear I seen early access footage or something and there was a dark hotel with like a little room and a see through mirror in some of the rooms

[chilly thorn]

It will most likely come back

There seems to have been a deliberate effort to seperate Sins of the Father and Checkin' In on location and plot

[copper dome]

Ok so I haven’t been hallucinating it

Couldn’t remember if it was real or something I somehow managed to imagine lmao

[cedar mulch]

I'd say it's a fairly challenging map, but not exactly terrifying. After all, the line of sight isn't obstructed.

[inner nova]

Gp is and will always remain hell

[vast falcon]

I wonder whats next for RON

[lost inlet]

DLC 3.

[prisma goblet]

Darkness and despair

[hybrid wren]

Finally finished Greased Palms

Now it's time for Island raid

[desert vapor]

Does the stress level of suspects increase if they see your flashlight?

Or do they just acknowledge that there is a beam of light? I have the feeling sometimes they run away when the see your flashlight

Like, i can hear the acknowledged verbally that they see a light but I don't know if it increases their threat/stress level

[jolly verge]

No but they become suspicious

[desert vapor]

Does it make them less likely to surrender? Does it also change their behavior when they are somewhat alerted?

[flat sparrow]

Well if you straight up rush em and surprise their balls off them they tend to surrender quite easily

So using a flashlight and announcing you’re coming takes away the surprise element of it

[desert vapor]

Hmm. They often still hesitate with me. I'm just not sure if I should take the laser pointer over the flashlight

[jolly verge]

They are less likely hesitate and surrender in this state yeah

[desert vapor]

Dammit...I find the flashlight very useful but I use canted sights more often so I'm torn between flashlights and laser pointers since I want suspects to surrender...

[wispy yoke]

Day 4 of asking for an update

[marsh lark]

There will be an announcement days or a few weeks before the update even goes live

[worn dirge]

When will Ron 2 be announced?

[floral peak]

When Voll Files get released

[icy wraith]

The One Big Beautiful File Dump

[storm belfry]

They'll drop it in void update schedule

1 update = 1 Vol File

[jolly verge]

amos-voll-documents-full.pdf

[storm belfry]

"Babe awake up, new ARG just dropped"

[buoyant crystal]

when will they update the game?

[jolly verge]

[lost inlet]

^

[solemn patio]

RELEASE THE VOLL FILES

[remote tangle]

Jamey got Diddy

[chilly thorn]

I heard that senator fremonts in the voll files 👀

[old star]

tomoror

[gritty nova]

I was doing a Ironman mode run and it was surprisingly going really well as I had everyone on "content" and I got to lethal obsession

And then the door suddenly opened a bit too widely and boom

[idle thunder]

More information will be accessible in the next update

[pine knot]

Point blank shotgun in the chest and this guy still manages to headshot me after getting a hole in his abdomen

[jolly verge]

Don't use buckshot against armored suspects or aim for the limbs, if you used slugs it's can't pen level 4 armor

[pine knot]

It was slugs ill just never take a shotgun again. The whole point of it is to shoot whatever is infront of you and vaporize it

[pine knot]

ill just use my main rifle next time

[jolly verge]

Slugs do not pen level 4 armor, it's still have a 100% stagger chance tho. Just use correct ammo next time

[pine knot]

I said i used slugs, he didnt even react to it as they normally do

he acted like i didnt even fire and shot me after i shot him

[jolly verge]

You missed the shot or hit his limb which deals only 25% of damage

[pine knot]

he was a meter infront of me trust me when i say i hit him

[jolly verge]

Well like I said it's either miss or limb shot

Not torso

[pine knot]

... nevermind

I shot him DIRECTLY in the torso

my tm8 opened the door

and i caught him by surprise

i didnt have to flick left or right it was right in front and i shot him in the torso

[jolly verge]

Then he would either die or at least staggered because of level 4 armor

[pine knot]

Exactly but he didnt

he shot me right in my face after

[jolly verge]

Which means you missed

Unless you on hard difficulty and played Lethal Obsession

[pine knot]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-frustrated-speed-over-it-speed-crash-out-speed-crashing-out-crash-out-gif-12382450018351543960

[jolly verge]

Where suspects do have health enough to survive 1 slug shot to the torso

[pine knot]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

me talking to you

[jolly verge]

More like me with you

[pine knot]

You really typed 3 min to say this

over 400 hours in RON and this guy thinks i dont know what a torso shot is

You know what can also happen the game bugging out and not having 100 procent bugfree gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/deji-idiot-brain-gif-20926558

[frail pier]

[viscid thistle]

Why is no one in vc lol

[keen tartan]

What does everyone use buckshot or slugs?

[chilly dock]

Is Ready or Not worth buying in its current state on xbox. And will the devs eventually update the game

[prime spear]

Save for Pc.

[icy wraith]

they will update it, yes.
But, I could never play this game vanilla. There are a TON of mods that make it not only passable but actually awesome, so I cannot recommend it on consoles, for the lost opportunity alone.

[chilly dock]

I dont want to. I will do that when I get a 9 to 5 job

[prime spear]

I wonder why you’d be talking about mods.

[icy wraith]

lol yeah. But i'm a very lazy modder tbh. I only make them because i have to 😄

[prime spear]

Jug’s Juggernaut Juggling mod.

[icy wraith]

lol

[prime spear]

Well
Topic that isn’t about Ready or Not

[marsh lark]

Mods are related to Ready or Not tbh.

[prime spear]

What if I say…

Counter Strike.

[marsh lark]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-warn-mod-discord-damn-bro-thats-funny-gif-23376875

[buoyant pecan]

Is Amos Voll taking hostages and killing them a new thing that was added? I don’t remember him doing that before I played just now

[buoyant holly]

Hi there, what is actually the deal with this game? They sold more than 1 million copies on console and now what?
since september the game is bugged as hell, AI does not reply to orders on some maps, enemies feels like terminators (like 2 headshots to kill them), they shoot you through the floor, or even walls, we even realize that they can spot your flashlight through different floors… and since september, it is radio silent… I am tired of developers who use mods as an excuse to let their game abandoned for 6 months after their release.
Really not respectful of their community at all… sad…

[jolly verge]

He always spawn without any weapon in his hands, if he put his pistol out or take any gun from the ground then he can take hostages

[buoyant pecan]

Ah ok
This is just the first time I’ve seen him take hostage and I play that mission a lot

And of course, the coward murdered her

Bro willing to straight up shoot one of his daughter’s friends dead at her birthday party
Yet another reason to hate Amos

[marsh lark]

The update cycle has always been 6+ months

[jolly verge]

He's literally using «Cowardly» archetype

[buoyant pecan]

Ngl almost every time suspect takes a hostage, they end up executing them even if I manage to shoot them

[buoyant holly]

I totally understand that it can take a while to build a good update free of any new bugs. But the fact is, we don’t have any way to get rid of any of these bugs by using mods on console… is it really normal that the game is litteraly unplayable on some maps? I honestly don’t think it is reasonable. It looks like they threw out this console version in order to get more money, without any respect for their new customers.

[marsh lark]

I am not sure of most bugs, I am probably lucky to just never experience them. The problem is that we don't have a Community Manager at the moment

[buoyant holly]

On pc, the AI feels better, and so are the teammates, but on xbox it is unbearable. And the worse part is that at launch, there wasn’t so many bugs… there was graphical issues for sure, but the AI was working well. Since september patch… everything went crazy.

[marsh lark]

Weird since both versions are the same with the only console exclusive bug being the floating bullets which are fixed for next patch

[buoyant holly]

Yeah definitely weird, same for xbox series s and x, different bugs… I really don’t get it… but I hope the update will arrive soon 🤷🏻 originally such a great game

[marsh lark]

Probably, though there could have been delays due to a lot of position fillings happening

[haughty oriole]

I just noticed there's a drone in the Los locos den, near the border

I shot it down, I wonder who was commanding that?

[rich patio]

Possibly someone in the tunnels

[haughty oriole]

the most plausible one

[rich patio]

Slight issue though. How would they have signal down there to pilot it?

[haughty oriole]

yeah that's what I mean

So it seems obvious but not that obvious

[rich patio]

I want to think maybe LSPD but that doesnt make any sense either.

[haughty oriole]

And not get yelled at after shooting it?

[rich patio]

Thats why I said it doesnt make sense

Only time will tell though. Maybe aome lore thing will come out

[haughty oriole]

It could be some kids drone too

[rich patio]

Near the border? I doubt it

Thats in the middle of nowhere

[haughty oriole]

🤔

[chilly thorn]

To be frank, No probably not its an amazing game but It will definently be a more "It's so fucking peak" expierence once the next update drops.

Theres SO many bugs rn

[storm belfry]

your bugging

[chilly thorn]

like ANNOYING ones stuff that can ruin the singleplayer expierence, which is obviously really bad for a singleplayer game lol

[storm belfry]

[chilly thorn]

✅ yes!

[gleaming knoll]

How do I beat hide and seek in commander mode

[trim wing]

Assuming that the next update won't break the game even further

[old star]

The random crashes and floating casings are annoying

[gleaming knoll]

I finally beat it after like 4 attempts

[gleaming knoll]

4-8 attempts

[covert aurora]

Well done!

Now enjoy the dlc missions!

[gleaming knoll]

Thanks

[covert aurora]

Np!

[plain zenith]

Sooo quick question… has the Devs said literally anything about adding anything new to the game? I’ve been out of the loop for a little bit

[covert aurora]

Their adding multiattachments, zoomable optics, a maginfyer optic and carry handles for the mk18 and g36 from the last dev brief that was on halloween

[lost inlet]

@harsh vigil new style?

Also it’s Judge.

[polar gate]

When is the update dropping?

[covert aurora]

[polar gate]

Sooner pleaseeee🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[covert aurora]

Hopfully

[polar gate]

Is it not gonna be a huge update

[covert aurora]

I know as much as you do

[polar gate]

Damnnnnn

[harsh vigil]

Yeah. Much more detailed now that I have a tablet instead of using my phone

[lost inlet]

nice. Can't wait to see more works from you.

[harsh vigil]

I appreciate it

[drifting prawn]

tried to s rank hard tier in commander mode for four hours and im im lowk getting ptsd watching criminal minds and the rookie tiktoks help
swear it wasnt this hard yesterday i breezed thru it but today my brain's so cooked

[stone bay]

Anyone got any ideas for how I can use the Sly vest?

[quasi coral]

Still no update, still no hybrid sights

[chilly thorn]

Sometimes I wish RoN took place in the early 2000s because all the modern gear and attachments look so lame

[quasi coral]

I personally extremely disagree with you

[wispy yoke]

Day 5 of asking for an update🙏

[quartz blade]

Has anybody heard anything at all about an update happening ever or has this game just been completely abandoned

I know there was that thing in October about adding some attachments but no update on a drop date or anything

[covert aurora]

other then what's been shared so far nothing yet, as mentioned in that letter their letters will come when they have something to share, other then that.... it's just awaiting game. Soon™

so they are working on SOMETHING

[cedar mulch]

The SWAT MK18 does not feature the Assassin's drum magazine attachment.

[lost inlet]

I miss M4A1’s +P mag.

[thorn oasis]

A couple bug fixes before a bigger update shouldnt be too hard

[tacit gull]

This game needs a lot more than a couple of bug fixes

[swift socket]

It needs a miracle

[lost inlet]

^

Which is all doable btw if void just locks in.

[tacit gull]

I'm kinda doubting it at this point

the people at void are cool right

but this game is in such a sorry state that i don't think there's much that can be done

they can just keep putting out 3 weapons and 3 maps and not worry about it because people will keep funneling money

[storm belfry]

Heh, I don't have money to funnel

[spice gazelle]

Yandere Dev is more likely to finish his game than for that to happen.

[solemn patio]

Id play the hell out a mission where you have to find a sniper while he takes potshots at your team

[solemn patio]

THE TOOTHBRUSH

[idle thunder]

So after all those months, there is nothing worth sharing yet, bruh

[pallid yacht]

Greased palm titled “Hardest map”

[cursive minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[pallid yacht]

Meanwhile we have Port hokan

[cursive minnow]

Both are hard for different reasons overall the difficulty is subjective person to person.

[pallid yacht]

Imagine the map on commander mode

[solemn patio]

Either your ai smokes them or misses horribly

[trim wing]

bold to assume that they will actually shoot at the suspect

[pallid yacht]

By that time the sniper already shot u dead

[trim wing]

instead of walking backwards into them

[pallid yacht]

Game lose

[arctic pilot]

😔

[grave tendon]

This game has so much potential if it wasn't for the bugs😍🥰😮‍💨

[cunning eagle]

Guys sm1 tell me if relapse is hard i aint trynna get a s tier

[storm belfry]

Its hard

Normal mode is possible for S rank though, Hard mode is some john wick level work though

[cunning eagle]

Is it hard if im on the easiest mode and im using lethal

[cedar mulch]

That was a mafia organisation formed by a group of former KGB operatives.

[frail pier]

Dogshit business model

We're either gonna have 40 missions before this game dies or they make another title.

F2P RoN is gonna go hard

[tacit gull]

dogshit for people who actually give a shit about playing a good game but for void its infinite money printer

[frail pier]

At what point do we run out of wacky swat scenarios

Where's the old story path they were chasing prior. What happened to that shit😩

Oh wait I forgot I'm not supposed to know any of that💀

[chilly dock]

Is the game worth buying if I was to play it single player?

[cedar mulch]

You may wish to consult their official recruitment website. I suspect they may be developing PvP content or a new game.

[floral peak]

I forgot how to open epic games menu

[frail pier]

Free to play most likely

[smoky sand]

why cant they add fully customised controls to console

[cedar mulch]

Best for Ron PvP

[frail pier]

Would make the most sense

They probably wanna have a PvP but seperate the two

[covert moss]

Yo what's happening

[modest hare]

any more news on the upcoming update

[idle thunder]

Unfortunatelly, no

[terse marsh]

An update??

[jolly verge]

[dense timber]

Never

[covert aurora]

They have done 3 smaller patches post lss, now its back to a big. This is their normal they do 1 big patch 3 smaller.

[thorn oasis]

Just feels like those patches did nothing, games still filled with many annoying bugs

[covert aurora]

No i get what you mean.

[frank kettle]

I played through the campaign single player and I enjoyed it that way. Commanding your squad takes a bit of getting used to, but once you have the button combos down, it's a surprisingly natural system.

It's just as much fun with friends, if you want to play that way too.

[dense timber]

Issues with swat ai if ur ok with that, they will die and sell u lots

Swat also hold and clear so rooms terrible or just can’t enter at all

[frank kettle]

You definitely can't rely on your AI, but that's why you're the point man.

They do a good enough job clearing rooms and apprehending suspects when supervised.

[dense timber]

Ai does it automatically and will even cross into other rooms to do it leading to their demise

[trim wing]

On previous versions it definitely at least felt like you could rely on them to clear a room by themselves, especially on lethal

But on this build of the game I have witnessed them walk backwards into suspects shooting at them

[dense timber]

I’ve played pc version, ai def was better I think

[mint imp]

I could use some help/advice, I am trying to get the "im too old for this" achievement and its going pretty well, on steam it says i have 16/18 levels done, but in game it only shows 1 level missing (rust belt). I was told previously that i need all the main objectives and a passing grade for it to count, so I went and redid all the levels minus rust belt and have every level above a C except for 2 and have all the main objectives and the soft ones too but it still shows 16/18 instead of 17/18

[trim wing]

Huh

[mint imp]

oh youre the one who i spoke to last time lol

[trim wing]

You did every level except for 2 and you're missing 2 instead of 1

[mint imp]

according to the steam achievement im missing 2 but i should only be missing one

which is rust belt, which i intentionally skipped

[trim wing]

You also said you have every level above a C except for 2

[mint imp]

yes i have a C on the Spider and Hide and Seek

[trim wing]

Hm

[mint imp]

im now questioning if i arrested george brixley on the spider

[trim wing]

Can you double check that all of them say hard

[mint imp]

im going to rerun that rq to confirm

they all say hard

[trim wing]

Hm

Weird

[mint imp]

ill @ you in a few minutes once ive confirmed the spider was done correctly

@trim wing i was stupid, ofc its the one i was sure i had done right so i didnt do it when i reran the other 16

so my problem was solved

[trim wing]

Lol

[dense stag]

Hey.. dunno if this is the proper channel to ask .. are any other steam deck users having issues with the customization menu ? Like when I want to swap my visual gear out I can’t go down to my pants or even my watch and tattoos?

edit: my tactical gear, watch, etc

[unborn elbow]

ur steamdeck os is windows right

[dense stag]

Nope! SteamOS. It was working for me properly a few months ago with no issue and now that I reinstalled it it’s just off. Trying to switch weapons is also buggy like I select it but it doesn’t pop up the other weapons.

[drifting prawn]

sometimes im super impressed by them, other times i grow insane cuz theyve gone and got themself slimed standing in a fatal funnel all confused

[unborn elbow]

couldve been ur device problem, if im not mistake this game hasnt been updated for the past few months

[crisp sphinx]

what

why did it delete that

[lost inlet]

Delete what?

[pallid yacht]

playing hard mode sucks all the fun out of the fucking game

the suspect turned around and nailed me in the head in half a second

like what the fuck

and the team AI is so dumb you cant even trust them covering your back

fuck hard mode

[lost inlet]

No one forced you to play hard mode btw.

[pallid yacht]

true

[lost inlet]

Hard mode without knowing the games like the back of your hands is just anti-fun.

[drifting prawn]

my irritation is just i always get so close to the end with one mf left and then like one of my teammates just decides to die

then it goes from s to a+ just like that bruh

[karmic raven]

This right here. I could forgive every other bug in this game if the AI wasn't so fucking stupid.

[chilly thorn]

I love that shit

Imo hard mode should be a lil harder though

[cedar mulch]

They ought to create a VIP mode where one player assumes the role of Mike, while suspect players los locos to conduct the manhunt. SWAT players must then intervene to thwart them. The Narcos storyline lends itself perfectly to PvP.

[dense stag]

I doubt it’s my deck but thanks for the reply!

[rigid depot]

Like not at all or do you need to switch to another menu and then back to get it fixed? I’m also on deck I’ve had a similar issue where I couldn’t always go from my primary weapon to the secondary selector

[stable aspen]

WTH just happened. I had a suspect surrendering, my entire team had pepperball guns, and out of nowhere, before his gun even hits the floor, a single bullet hits his head and he dies

What the actual goddamn hell

[stable aspen]

The ai in this game is honestly so crappy you have to play on the lowest difficulty for the most realistic experience of not being gunned down around every corner you peek

I'm about to start looking for mods to improve it with how infuriating it is

Like, if a door is open with 3 suspects in it, your teammates aren't just gonna mf stand there and fire back, they're gonna take cover, toss a grenade in, and breach with the team

With or without orders

[nocturne willow]

Anyone think we’re ever gonna get different colour balaclava like camo or green or like brown/tan

[rigid depot]

Yeah exactly and what sucks even more is that when you die and you spectate them they’re moving so smoothly and on their own so it’s definitely possible

[stable aspen]

It WHAT

Goddamn bruh, did they just want us to suffer?

[chilly thorn]

you know you can just

tell them to do that right

[stable aspen]

You can but they take too long.

They have to shuffle to the door, post up, wait for the rest of their team, and THEN they swap if they randomly decide to, THEN they actually go in

It takes way longer than just taking cover and then going in when your teammate reaches the door instead of waiting for them to get into a holding position behind you

A real swat team moves fluidly, not everyone stops moving at the same time for any reason unless they have a reason to

[chilly thorn]

Oh that’s cuz their pathing is buggy rn it’ll be fixed I bet

It was great in dark waters

[hybrid wren]

I hate the bots so much

I wish i could tell them right in the middle of a mission that they are firedcand watch them return to SWAT truck with their head down

[finite forge]

How do i open Eos on PC while om game?

[covert aurora]

shift f3

[brazen turret]

Still no news on the multi rail attachment

[covert aurora]

they talked about it on halloween with the letter

[brazen turret]

Wasn't that just the reveal saying they would do it

Idk. I ain't hear nun about it before that

[covert aurora]

no that's them revealing it

[drifting prawn]

THIS

[dense stag]

That’s it for the weapons, gotta switch back and forth. For character customization all I can see is what I have equipped and if I try changing say my chest rig I can’t even select all the other ones I have unlocked. It just doesn’t let me scroll around. Kinda sucks since again I never experienced this before

[jolly verge]

Reduce UI scale

[dense stag]

Thank you kind stranger I’m a dumbass. 🫡

[hybrid wren]

SWAT4 is better

I'm not going to sugarcoat it

[flat sparrow]

[crisp sphinx]

Entire team died to a vest on neon tomb 😆

we stacked on the door next thing we know mfer runs out and blows up the entire team

[flat sparrow]

rip

[simple light]

What’s a better entry point on relapse hospital lobby or parking lot

[flat sparrow]

parking lot imo

[median blade]

when is the update coming? Im inpatient

[real cloak]

50.000 updates used to live in the update section now its a ghost town.

[idle thunder]

That is very good CoD reference

[floral peak]

Never

[storm belfry]

Soon

[median blade]

I say we all start spamming release till they do it

[raw igloo]

Bro idk why I was doing the thank you come again mission I was missing one last civ. Went out side an stsrted to yell st a cardboard cut out even tried to taze it😭😭

[storm belfry]

welcome to RoN bud

[median blade]

Welcome to how feel trying to do my tax's right now

[idle thunder]

If I skip time, will I be alive when Void relases a fucking patchnote?

[raw igloo]

Nah

[storm belfry]

yes

They'll drop one for q1

[median blade]

they'll wait till you are on your death bed

[storm belfry]

If not they'll be publicly pelted with tomatoes

Justified in my opinion

[idle thunder]

Like Hans Capon and Henry in Troskowitz?

[dark patrol]

Man idk what else to do I wanna play with my buddy, I bought DLC he didnt everything I've read says no big deal, if host has the DLC no one else needs to. Im on PC he's PS and he gets told cant join modded session despite me not having mods I even reinstalled and deleted all game files I give up

[marsh lark]

disable modded related settings in the general tab

having them enabled will not allow console players to join no matter if you have mods or not

[dark patrol]

The allow modded players and join modded

[marsh lark]

yes

[full quarry]

why is there no way to put a baliclava/mask on in singleplayer or story

[dark patrol]

b/c it's illegal for law enforcement to conceal their face when on duty

[full quarry]

eh i mean some people go for more military aspect

and ive seen swat wear masks before

all the mask mods for it are outdated so idk

[gilded dock]

What about gang and drug units? They wear mask when doing ops I’ve seen it

[tacit gull]

Not for SWAT

It's not an intentional choice, it's more of a fuckup by the devs for not thinking about it

[dark patrol]

man getting negative points proved to be a little difficult

[marsh lark]

Against department policy, maybe

Illegal? No

[terse marsh]

Someone told me that the flashlights trigger suspects,is that true?

[dense kernel]

apparently it is

[cursive minnow]

To some extent, imagine the flashlight is effectively treated like a laser pointer from the AI’s perspective. They only react if they are looking directly at the point where the light originates. So you can shine light on their back and illuminate the area around them, but since the “dot” is on their back, they do not react to the light.

That's at least how I've come to understand how it functions.

[terse marsh]

Thanks

[chilly thorn]

Its different for swat teams since they could be dealing with some dangerous peeps

[terse marsh]

Also I'm starting to like the .357 on the shield I had terrible aim at first but I'm getting better

[vital canopy]

my favorite activity

[nocturne willow]

Do any mods know if we might ever get like camo balaclava

[terse marsh]

Or should i use something else?

[crisp trellis]

does time affect ur rating alot

[surreal pelican]

Nope

[median blade]

drop the update. Im bored

[nocturne willow]

Real

I want dlc3

[median blade]

im telling you lets start chanting

RELEASE IT NOW

[mint patrol]

I don’t think it affects it at all

[crisp trellis]

so why am i not getting s ranks even when i have no casualties

[mint patrol]

Did you kill anyone

[mint patrol]

And did you get all the evidence

[crisp trellis]

well not all the time but when i do i still get b or a

[crisp trellis]

no civilian

ngl it might be because of evidence

[unborn elbow]

is vortex mod manager compatible with this game

[mint patrol]

For S rank you have to a) arrest everyone without killing them (if they’re laying on the floor unresponsive then it won’t count, they have to be sitting on their knees) b) collect all evidence, including weapons c) have none of your officers die

[crisp trellis]

alr but its lowkey hard to do that without getting shot

thx tho

[mint patrol]

That’s the point basically

Beanbag shotgun is the best thing and CS gas and flashabangs

Just don’t shoot anyone in the head with beanbag shotty or they’ll die

And I wouldn’t give it to your teammates because they’ll shoot them in the head eventually

[thick dome]

the rotary flash launcher is 100x > beangun though..if you have it

[crisp trellis]

i did see that in a gameplay

imma try it

[mint patrol]

What the hell is that bro I haven’t played in months

The GL they added with the deagle?

Or the deagle esc 1911

[mint patrol]

Good luck

[proven dagger]

It’s hard to tell but is that a new map on the new post on their X

Could be a teaser for a new map

[terse marsh]

I was gonna ask if I should change anything on my loadout but idk if screenshots are allowed

[trim wing]

there's a channel for it

[terse marsh]

Alright thanks

What's the channel?

[trim wing]

the one that says screenshots

[terse marsh]

Done

[gaunt venture]

Guys what is the real model of the regular nvgs? (The dual ones)

[cedar mulch]

This game falls short of Insurgency: Sandstorm in terms of customisation.

[trim wing]

truer, when are they adding drum magazines for every gun

also clothing customization, they should add a shemagh for the desert

[thick dome]

if you want a tactical barbie dress up simulator, ground branch heh

[covert aurora]

or Arma 3

[cedar mulch]

Only possible in PvP. The Drum MK18 is an exclusive weapon for Los Locos.

[thick dome]

ground branch is whoel ther level of dress up

[mint patrol]

Loud out is mostly preference but you’re gonna be slow with all heavy and steel

[terse marsh]

Any changes I should make

[mint patrol]

I use light armor and Kevlar

[lost inlet]

Kevlar…

[mint patrol]

Also 3 mags in each gun is usually enough so you can have flashes and cs

[mint patrol]

Is that not what it’s called

[lost inlet]

It is kevlar, it’s just that kevlar is quite literally the worst armor material you can pick.

[mint patrol]

I’m tryna go fast

[lost inlet]

You can do that with ceramic and steel front only.

[mint patrol]

Eh I prefer Kevlar

[lost inlet]

And the differences between kevlar and ceramic are so minuscule, you end up handicapping yourself for like extra ~5% acceleration speed.

[mint patrol]

That’s still faster tho and that’s all that matters

[trim wing]

faster to speed up, not max speed

and I think it's just faster by a second or a fraction of a second

[mint patrol]

I guess but it’s all preference

I’m not stat maxing

[wraith fiber]

The real question is, are you ready or not? Hahahahahaha

[lost inlet]

No.

[trim wing]

yeah it's 0.48s to get to max speed with kevlar vs 1.04s with full coverage steel

but the armor difference is a ton

[wraith fiber]

Get ready then son

[mint patrol]

That’s more than half a second which means a lot in life or death situations

I’d rather dodge the bullet then tank it

[trim wing]

the max speed is not that fast man

[mint patrol]

Eh idk it’s saved me a lot

It’s all just preference tho

Some people wanna stat max and some don’t

[trim wing]

when has it saved you

[mint patrol]

When I walk behind cover to not get shot

[lost inlet]

“Dodge the bullets”

bullets are hitscan in this game.

[trim wing]

true, I don't really wanna max accel so I just do steel since it's a pretty good all-round option

[thick dome]

you ain't dodging nothing. proper peeking and pieing is much more effective...esp hard mode

[mint patrol]

Idk bro I feel like I dodge pretty often

I’m going faster so they miss ig

[trim wing]

????

bruh

[thick dome]

you arent going faster. max speed is unaffected by armor. acceleration is by about half a sec though

you change direction a bit quicker.

[mint patrol]

Exactly I wanna get going as fast as possible

[trim wing]

bro is the flash 😭

[thick dome]

you do you my man. wont work on hard mode though. enemies have 0 reaction time

greased palsm on hard mode with 2 people was a bear

[cedar mulch]

GB isn't particularly innovative; their PvP is also very traditional.

[terse marsh]

Plus I kinda burn through my .357 ammo due to panic aiming when getting hit by a suspect so I bring 4

[trim wing]

I think insurgency also has pretty regular pvp besides maybe VIP but a lot of the time the VIP just gets themselves killed

[terse marsh]

But I'll probably change the 10mm for something close quarters

[storm belfry]

I doge the hitscan

[trim wing]

I don't think there is a think the only weapons that might be bad for closer quarters in this game are the full length ar and full length g3 but literally everything else works

oh and prolly the m14

[queen steppe]

Have they reverted the censorship on the PC version or is there a mod

[terse marsh]

Also apologies if I ask too many questions I just got the game and I need to know important stuff

[quasi coral]

No worries, it's great that yer curious

I didn't bother to watch any tutorials and I missed out on tons of important information

[storm belfry]

G3 slander

[terse marsh]

But I am loving the shotguns currently

[trim wing]

Why are you in that server

[storm belfry]

For the stickers, I got like uh

and emojis

there's like 1,000 emoji I can use

(Low key, I don't even play the games some servers are based on)

I do play alot of RoN, cause I love RoN

[trim wing]

Ron sucks

[shrewd quest]

At long last

Post office is done

1 casualties

1 civilian killed

Took me 5 hours

[inner nova]

Ai teammates are pure ragebaiting fuel

[inner nova]

The worst game ever(i play every day)

[deep aspen]

Hey y’all, do you have any unofficial rules for playing with friends that keep the game challenging but fun? In our group, the leader often makes us restart if someone dies or fails a final grade, which makes the game feel repetitive and overly dependent on perfect RNG.

[quasi coral]

The FN MK17 and M14 apply to this.

The SR-16 ENORMOUS barrel length of 11.5" barely make a difference, personally

I use it often with the variety options consisting of the ARWC and GA416

And I notice minimal difference

[flat sparrow]

[quasi coral]

Plan things out before, play again, and let things go how it goes, and if it goes bad, you review and see what you did wrong and try to apply new ways

Try different entrances as well, it's a nice change of direction, but if you're constantly going for scores than it goes repetitive for almost every game lol

[midnight parrot]

We are we going to get another update?

Is there one being actively worked on right now?

[lost inlet]

soon™.

[midnight parrot]

T_T

[surreal pelican]

Does stingers apply friendly fire/unauthorized use of force if my AI teammates or civs get affected by it?

[lost inlet]

yes.

only if the civi is already surrendering.

[surreal pelican]

So if the civi is normal, like just idle and he gets stung, I won't get the penalty?

[midnight parrot]

If the civi is standing and or roaming and not actively surrendering you can stinger them. But id suggest just using a taser or something unless there are multiple civilians.

[surreal pelican]

Yea ik; I use throwables to stun anyone inside and I'm just worried that unsurrendered civs will give me unauthorised use of force

[lost inlet]

no.

[jolly verge]

Only if that kills them, which require 8 stingers

Yo can sting standing or surrendered suspects/civilians just fine

[lost inlet]

oh cool.

so only friendly fire then.

[jolly verge]

Yeah

[surreal pelican]

Thanks guys

[keen tartan]

Is it possible for C2 to kill a civ?

Cause the civ isn't getting up

[drifting prawn]

think so yeah if theyre right out the door

youd hope just incapacitated

uhm also team err is having one of your ai teammates using a riot shield worth anything when s ranking on hard or nah?

[simple light]

I always run one for red and one for blue it’s pretty useful

Especially during breaching

[lofty path]

is the game dead?

[hybrid silo]

You can play fully single player so how would it be dead

I don't think it'd ever matter if the game was dead to be honest

[chilly dock]

Is RoN worth buying if played single player on console?

[drifting prawn]

idk i just started playing and i think its pretty lively

[simple light]

Yeah the AI is a bit stupid rn at least for me

If your friends have it tho then play with them

[minor depot]

It's only dead if you expect bug fixes or new content, otherwise is still a solid game

[tacit gull]

yeah the game is only dead if you expect it to play well and function

[solemn patio]

Imagine blackpowder guns

Like I wanna have to play a minigame to reload a musket or flintlock and if I add too much my gun js explodes

[gaunt venture]

What happened to the supporter edition

I remember several good looking vests and even a tan skin for nvgs but it was locked behind buying it

Those cosnetics are gone now

Like not even locked they are just comepletly not even in the customization options

They ever gonna add this back with the upcoming dlc?

[solid stirrup]

I had enough of trying to spare everyone, what’s a good fully automatic to sweep

[midnight elm]

Is the game still broken from being ported to consoles?

Nvm lmfao the last patch was in September. awesome

[junior palm]

Bullet to the head don't kill, Bullet casings flying in the air, frame drops, wth is going on because it was fine until I bought dark waters dlc, when is the update?

[pliant frost]

They don't care

[cosmic current]

Speaking about DLC is there any word yet on the theme of the upcoming one?

[marsh lark]

The edition was removed after the game went to full release.

All the cosmetics and weapons are still in game for the people who have it, but you can no longer purchase it

[little hatch]

no. it's more active during evenings and weekends though

[chilly dock]

What game engine does Ready or Not use?

[cursive minnow]

Unreal Engine 5.

[chilly dock]

Why did RoN go through a graphical downgrade?

[cursive minnow]

Probably optimization gone wrong when releasing for consoles.

I don't know the real reason though.

Best guess

[trim wing]

ue4 -> ue5

[simple light]

civs on hide and seek are worse than the suspects

🙏🏼

[midnight elm]

They said they were investigating it…that was 7 months ago tho. ATP I think it was intentional

[tawdry timber]

What’s the strongest rifle and pistol? (Best for shooting through walls and doors)

[cold salmon]

Is this game ever gonna be updated again?

[inland pewter]

Mark v pistols or the 7.62x54 rifles

[chilly thorn]

In the gameplay footage from the recent ads the shadows and textures appear to be higher quality

(yes im autistic enough to notice) but expect next update to fix/change it

[clever marlin]

@cold salmon i hope so i do have a conspiracy or game theroy for a major update if they were to do one

[solemn patio]

Hear me out

AR shotgun

[waxen grove]

Console release downgraded the graphics and broke so many things that are still not fixed

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-brother-the-rock-wrestling-annoyed-lol-gif-5200517

[waxen grove]

I think I’m with you. We had to literally show kam what was broken in the modding server only for a patch to come out and the same issue to be present so idk. We have been dead in the water for a while now with zero coms and zero hot fixes. I don’t even care for content I just want the base game fixed and the modding api/sdk released

[waxen grove]

Void does it to them selves at this point. No one else to blame

[covert aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[light cove]

Console

[covert aurora]

All i am gonna say is were gonna move on to the next subject, we been down to this road and it leads to fights and heated arguements. So move on, one and only warning

[light cove]

Also I think they’re having issues with the baked lighting

Which happens

Some maps have better looks with baked lighting whilst others do not

Like the second mission 23 megabytes

Doesn’t do well with the baked lighting

It’s not voids fault

It’s just the nature of software

Shits gonna break

[waxen grove]

The lighting was darker but a lot better pre Adam

[light cove]

It could be a issue if they were using GPU Lightmass

[waxen grove]

While I do agree I also think you should fix your shit in a timely fashion

[light cove]

(Which is a way that UE5 uses nvidias RTX cores to bake lighting)

Saves developers time

So instead of baked lighting taking 1-2 hours

It only takes a couple of minutes if that

Depending on the scene

[waxen grove]

I believe that’s why they changed lighting systems in Adam. Game become less dark but also not as good looking

Still better then how it looks today but yeah it wasn’t a downgrade it’s just something I noticed going back to older builds

[light cove]

Baked lighting is a great way of making scenes look stunning whilst saving performance

But it’s static and the lighting is baked into the textures

So you sometimes get weight looking textures when you don’t configure it correctly

Or when the textures are simply not compatible

[waxen grove]

It’s just a shame that void downgraded the game, broke shit only to enter a new market all in the name of money.

[light cove]

It’s not voids fault again

[quasi coral]

Still no update

[light cove]

Marketing sure

[light cove]

But I’m speaking specifically on the engine/game side of things

[quasi coral]

A day without a hybrid means more civilians perish

[light cove]

Apparently 962 million civilians were killed since 1.0

[quasi coral]

Insane right?

[light cove]

I wonder how many of those were intentional

[waxen grove]

Love to know whose fault it is for not fixing the game in a timely manner. Void’s the one prioritising content updates like DLCs and Console ports over fixes

[light cove]

Sorry it’s 141 million

[quasi coral]

Definitely atleast 60 - 80% of them are intentional

I pulled those numbers out of my ass

[light cove]

Ever tried making a game?

With a team of 20 people?

[quasi coral]

I do wish civilians were last clunky and more "human" to say

[light cove]

You have teamwork in the sense of blue collar work

Then you have teamwork with software which is an entirely different beast

[waxen grove]

The whole game is missing that

[light cove]

Ask any programmer

Repository’s have made it easier but still a nightmare

Why I hate when people say “just hire more people”

[waxen grove]

Swat 4 had suspects and civilians that felt alive while Ron feels dead. Every single mission plays the same.

Shot first ask questions later

[light cove]

I have like 250 hours on this fucking game

It gets extremely repetitive

Even though I install a fuck tonne of mods

[waxen grove]

Without the sdk we cannot fix the issues with this game

[light cove]

And play the game with a 1911 with no body armour or helmet

[waxen grove]

We have to wait on void to release another dlc that won’t fix anything, break more shit, go radio silent for another year rinse repeat.

[light cove]

Wdym sdk?

Software dev kit?

[waxen grove]

Modding sdk

We were promised it so many moons ago

https://tenor.com/view/it's-been-84-years-gif-5161399042726915938

The ai system is fundamentally flawed and instead of fixing it they add more knobs to twiddle

[light cove]

Wdym flawed

[waxen grove]

Currently mods cannot go deep enough to fix this game

[light cove]

You telling me a suspect shooting a civilian 2 ms after taking them hostage isnt realistic?

[light cove]

Yet people scream at void every time there’s an update

[waxen grove]

Screw em. Mods break

[light cove]

“Add more content” switches too “you fucked up every single mod”

Then you have people making legitimate death threats to void

[waxen grove]

I don’t even care for more content at this point I just want fixes

[light cove]

Because their mode broke

[light cove]

What do you think they are doing?

[waxen grove]

Working on the next paid dlc

[light cove]

They are fixing the game and its countless bugs

Just not upfront about it

[waxen grove]

I’ll believe it when I see it

[light cove]

Because the devs are under a non disclosure agreement

[light cove]

Well you aren’t gonna see it until they make another official statement

[waxen grove]

Nah I will see it when they actually release a patch that fixes more the it breaks

Again I couldn’t care less about the new dlc

[light cove]

Make a video game

[waxen grove]

I want fixes

[light cove]

I’m dead serious

Make a video game

If you care so much about patching fixes

Make a video game, build a portfolio, apply to void

See how things work behind the scenes

Because I will guarantee to you this shit is a lot more complicated then “fix bugs”

You have to entertain three different crowds here

One: the people who mod the game
Two: console players
three: casual players

Everybody points their fingers and blames void

When I guarantee to you the issue is more complicated then “fix bugs”

[quasi coral]

Barging in here, I do agree with Magpie

There is probably a lot more behind the scenes than "GREED!!! or THEY ARE ABANDONING US!!"

[light cove]

You think a company is just going to pay their staff to sit around the office all day?

Doing nothing

[quasi coral]

But I do think that the lack of community connection is a big play in this as well

[light cove]

That I agree

[quasi coral]

Yea, it does shit to a community

[light cove]

But there’s also likely a lot of internal issues going on at void where I makes it challenging

Which happens every commonly in software development

[waxen grove]

It’s been like this since the EA

[light cove]

Especially with large teams

[waxen grove]

I am tired boss. I just want the game I paided for

[light cove]

We all do

You think void just wants to keep bugs in the game?

Also fixing bugs might I remind you again for the 6th time

Is more then just “fix bugs”

You at times very commonly especially when working with teams

Having to sort through tens of thousands of lines of code

That haven’t been touched in 3 years

For about 3 days or 3 weeks

[waxen grove]

You can either fix bugs or add more content. Do both at the same time and your playing a complex game of whack a mole that will never end

[light cove]

Build a video game

Then come back to me on that

[waxen grove]

Do mods count

[light cove]

No they do not

Using somebody else’s work doesn’t count

Configuring some lines of code and changing some stuff doesn’t count as “software development”

[umbral portal]

anyone know when we'll be able to put more than one attachment on a rail?

[light cove]

You have to build shit up from the ground

[waxen grove]

I would argue it does because shit still breaks like a game. You will causes issues with vanilla behaviours if you fuck it up enough

[light cove]

Build a game

Then get back to me

Changing some numbers isn’t software dev

You don’t have access to the games source code as well

So you can’t mod the game anymore then adding some basic stuff

And I guarantee you void isn’t going to make the source code available without a NDA

[stable kernel]

Drop it both of you

[quasi coral]

The USIA has arrived

[light cove]

The void stare

[quasi coral]

I see now, you are clearly hiding that the developers are secretly all Gamma-1 subjects

You don't want us to dig deeper

[light cove]

😳

[stable kernel]

There can be only one Gamma-1

“It has to be him”

[urban coral]

Hello.

[split citrus]

Good christ, some of the negative reviews of the game on Steam, I just don't get why they wasted their time even writing it. Like there is this one dude, who wrote a whole essay on why the game sucks now ever since it went to consoles. Gave a wall of texts about its "soul" being ripped out, and didn't actually explain WHY and HOW its soul got ripped out, hardly, not one damn time. Just a dude saying a whole lot of nothing literally. Somehow, people found that review "helpful".

And then there was the other recent review I saw about the games unreasonable approach to "unlawful use of force" in situations where real world Swat teams would for sure go lethal. I understand that review a little more, but if people were going to complain about it, they should have complained about that way earlier in the games development. Hell, even the moment the game was announced, since the RON devs took major inspiration from the Swat series that also had the same gameplay flaws for "use of force". Why cry about that now? Too late. 🙃

To me, even that isn't really a legitimate reason to give the game a thumbs down, if it wasn't ALSO a legitimate reason to do the same for the old school Swat games. People must have short memories. 😂

[urban coral]

Personally Im just waiting for the next dlc. Most of the problems with censorship and all that never really killed my experience with the game and I mean sure some "use of force" stuff is a little wierd but other than that I dont find it too terrible. (I think the biggest thing to annoy me with all that is probably the first time seeing a civilian pull a phone out)

Thats not to say the game is perfect but I dont have all that many complaints.

[split citrus]

I get where the dude was coming from. Like there are certain missions where Swat going fully lethal should not be in question. If suspects have already shot cops and civilians, why pester me when I pump that suspect full of hot lead?

[urban coral]

I mean like the night club, where you got multiple suspects in bomb vests who have already committed multiple acts of terrorism, yeah.

[split citrus]

Exactly, all bets are off if I come on the scene and see dead bodies piled a mile high all over the place. Hell you mean "unlawful" use of force? 😵‍💫

best believe Swat is going in guns blazing to "bring order to chaos".

[urban coral]

Ive heard the graphics on pc are glitched now due to the whole console release or smth.

[split citrus]

Can't be surprised. I really don't buy into the reasons they gave for censoring the game. Some people think it had more to do with the subject matter then it being due to the violence itself, or naked women. When you make a game about a bunch of Epstein characters, you might be barking up the wrong tree.

RON in its original state was unacceptable, but games like GTA was just fine. 🤨

I can't make sense of that.

[full quarry]

There is a mod somewhere on the mod page that kinda throws use of force out the window and ya can shoot the terrorists/criminals straight up without punishment or score loss.

[split citrus]

And thats how it should be in half of those missions.

[full quarry]

yeah the devs kinda messed up the whole game in my opinion. it was such a big thing and i feel the devs went the wrong way about it

[urban coral]

Also is it just me or do the ai gun down both the ai and suspect when someone is being held hostage ?

[full quarry]

for me the suspect shoots and tries to kill the hostage but the hostage doesnt die he just stands unfased after eating a bullet

[split citrus]

I gotta yell "drop your weapons" to a bunch of hardened criminals they knew good damn well ain't about to surrender. 🤣

[full quarry]

i hate the civs aswell in this game bro like you see swat or military coming in with rifles to save yo ass and your sat there complaining

makes me wanna commit a few war crimes 😭

[split citrus]

To the civs, I shouldn't even have to tell them to surrender. They should know better already in 99% of the missions.

[full quarry]

takes them about 10 times to surrender when im spamming f aswell

[full quarry]

yeah lol

the suspects probably surrender easily then the civs who were begging for help before i entered the room

[split citrus]

The mission with the crackheads I understand. Other than that, the civs behavior don't make sense.

[urban coral]

I mean depends on the level, like carriers of the vine for instance makes sense with the civilians being cult members and all but why would the employees be resisting law enforcement in the first mission and allat

[full quarry]

bro i just got to greased palms on commander mode and im honestly crashing out

also sinous trail

i hate that mission

[urban coral]

Mb restated what you said

[full quarry]

who sees their "security" friends getting arrested saying he didnt know we were cops and then starts shooting

[split citrus]

😂 yeah....I just wish the suspects would say "I can feel them".

[urban coral]

Or like having a dude in a bomb vest in arms reach and having to wait for them to actually reach for the switch.

[full quarry]

lmao

[slim moss]

I agree, I think everyone would like more communication and transparency. We haven't heard anything meaningful since December.

[split citrus]

Guess you gotta "feel" their intentions.

[urban coral]

I mean all im aware of is a 3rd dlc coming out sometime 2026

Outside of that idrk

[civic tundra]

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE MAPLE VALLY HIGHSCHOOL MOD AND WANNA PLAY?

[brazen onyx]

Time to attempt wr for speedrunning 23mbps

[simple ore]

mods pc only

[civic tundra]

Ik but like I’m asking if anyone has it because I’m on ps5

[civic tundra]

Cough cough do you have it???

[simple ore]

yeah but ps5 cant do mods

[civic tundra]

Yeah but can’t you put the map on and I can play it

[simple ore]

nope

[civic tundra]

Aww 🙁

I really wanted too play

[quasi coral]

You hear that VOID?

Why should I fill out an application when CLEARLY I've already met the requirements to be Community Manager

I'll keep em busy and on edge for DAYS and keep the hope for the game high

[brazen onyx]

Time to try and S rank relapse

[jade apex]

I don't comment here often, but I gotta say this game was really accurate considering the stuff coming out

[river ingot]

??? wtf are u doing here

wtf happened to your career at HCPD?

[brazen onyx]

Who r u

[river ingot]

wait Hollup in a mission rn will get back soon

[brazen onyx]

I lowk forgot

[placid schooner]

yall know where the bombs usually spawn on elephant?

cuz this is lowkey pmo

[river ingot]

No idea goo luck

[placid schooner]

I only found one and the other was nowhere to be seen

Also one of the suspects was jut standing in a corner of a room

nvm they just spawn in the same spot

i found the other near the coffee thing

[waxen grove]

Believe me we complained early in the game’s development. We have been complaining about ROE and AI since the early access but many of us thought early access surely it’s going to get better only to be blind sided by 1.0

A lot of my issues stem from the ai being very one dimensional. Doesn’t matter if it’s a bunch of teenagers knocking off a gas station or ex military vets in a hotel they act the exact same and there’s no variance

The game never lost its soul when the ronsole update came out but they did show that they didn’t really care much for the original vision

A lot of the censorship criticism is stupid but it did change the tone of some missions

To be frank the game doesn’t suck after Ronsole it sucked before too. That update was just the final straw due to the censorship

[placid schooner]

no they dont I was just lucky

[waxen grove]

I don’t bother anymore. I found F is a great way to get your self killed so I just shoot first ask questions later. Nothing wrong with that play style inherently but when it’s the only one that doesn’t end in death it gets old fast.

The game should have a dynamic system for the rules of engagement and loosen them when it’s an active shooter situation

[maiden wolf]

Is the dev team still alive

[waxen grove]

I think so

Void is employing a new animation designers but it’s unsure if that’s for Ron or for another project

[split citrus]

The game is at this point nothing more than a glorified Swat 4 sequel. Swat is what inspired them. So if just another Swat clone is all they set out to achieve, then there is major nothing left to improve in their mind, since the Swat games were god status to many, for some reason, even though that was far from the truth.

[waxen grove]

Not even. It comes so close to being the perfect swat successor only to fail so badly in so many aspects

Actually there’s a heck of a lot to improve if they wanted to

[covert hamlet]

K******y

They keep him in the rust belt cave

They broke the officer ai in that map so you can’t free him

👽 🖨️

[waxen grove]

I don’t really care as to what happed to him. But I do know we showed him a video of the broken shadows which apparently wasn’t broken before complying the game, was “fixed” only for the shadows to look the same

But I’m willing to take that more with a grain of salt theses days

[covert hamlet]

the key to freeing him out the rust belt cave is the CS gas fix patch

that’s why they won’t buff it

[split citrus]

Its missing quite a bit as well. There is no "high ground" for instance. And I should be able to forcibly restrain someone without even having to tell them to. That was part of a mod I remember for Swat 4. There is a lot they could have done, but lets be real, this is business at the end of the day. If the bare minimum is enough to grow it, there isn't much reason to put in more effort into its development then necessary, if you know people will still buy the game regardless.

[covert hamlet]

they removed flashbang penalties and keep cs bad void has a secret cult society they want you flashing only

when the g36 carry handles are given to us in the next update check them for microchips

[waxen grove]

It’s not actually broken. It’s working as intended atm. But because the devs don’t actually play the game they don’t know the gas radius is so small it might as well be broken

[covert hamlet]

how many developers will they sacrifice to get lasers and flashlights working at the same time? that’s why they’re putting out job listings they need more souls they have a basement in their building ive seen it

[waxen grove]

I think if they continue down this path they won’t have a player base to sell to. I genuinely think Ronsole was them writing off the pc player base. They could genuinely get so many more sales on pc if they fixed the game but too the route that guaranteed sales over a what if

Worst part of all is that the state of the Ronsole launch has killed the console market share too because I don’t hear many recommending it tbh. First impressions are everything and if you cock it up you will be kind of known for that for a long while

[full quarry]

im talking about civilian ai lol

the civilians talk shit and complain 24/7 when im there saving their ass and then they refuse to get down 💀

[covert hamlet]

Did they update it recently?

[waxen grove]

Oh well still a few light slaps, a few thousand volts or some pepper spay should sort them out

Except it just stuns them in an animation iirc

[split citrus]

😂 Thats the running joke. A simple feature that should have been there from the jump, requires higher head count. If there are job listings, lets hope its for more than just that, a LOT more. Like let it be for some serious overhauls.

[waxen grove]

An animation they can just snap out of and go back to refusing compliances

[civic tundra]

Well I don’t think but I only wanted to play because I was on console and console can’t join modded

They should add that.

[waxen grove]

Console modding support would be a ripe pain in the ass

It would require the release of the modding sdk we were promised so many moons ago that we will never get but also there’s limitations as to what can and can’t be done on console vs pc even with full modding support

[civic tundra]

No like I’m saying allow console players to join pc players that can play there mods

[full quarry]

mods make the game in my opinion, base is just boring and most of the stuff is pretty ass. dont even know why you'd buy the game if you was on ps5 considering the devs take their sweet time updating things that actually need to be updated.

[civic tundra]

Tbh I don’t mind playing on console soon ima try iron man mode

[covert hamlet]

the developer gave up on that map it hasn’t been playable for a year i think now? i think you have to download a old build and then install the map it’s a hassle even on pc

[civic tundra]

Ooo I might try too get the Hawaii shirt

[waxen grove]

You would still need the mod files. A modded gun or modded map won’t work on a console via cross play

[covert hamlet]

a lot of the mops you see on YouTube are outdated and non playable in 2026 unless you recover the mod file and use old builds sadly

[civic tundra]

They literally want people to play the game but they barely update it and don’t take suggestions seriously!

[waxen grove]

Well the devs would rather hord bug fixes and release them along side the next big content drop instead of working on bug fixes.

Worst part of the on again ai updates that I think have completely stopped with the arrival of hard mode is that there’s no fine tuning when you flip the switch between too easy and too hard every 6 months

[civic tundra]

Bro I think they really do I’m pretty sure on TikTok it’s up there with a bunch wanting Un censored.

[waxen grove]

That’s the only part of the censorship I agree with. It’s kind of messed up what they did with it. But some of the changes make a little more sense

[civic tundra]

Ngl but why on hide and seek why was fisa crashing out I didn’t close the dam container 😭✌️

[waxen grove]

This game is honestly just depressing.

[covert hamlet]

i dont expect it to happen but 7.62 being buffed in hard mode would be fun. you have high recoil and 20 round mags but they lose their 1shot punch

[waxen grove]

And I don’t mean the tone or the missions. The game is so close to greatness yet it seems like they are not interested in going to extra mile

[full quarry]

wtf why did it just delete my message

[waxen grove]

Would be a banned word or something

[full quarry]

lemme try again

[covert hamlet]

is .50 ae deadlier than 7.62 against flesh IRL?

[civic tundra]

It’s true if you actually think about the game a lot and understand the meaning behind it some people get depressed or even gain mental thoughts, and it’s sad like really sad because even the fact that I feel like it could even be the reason shootings happen.

[waxen grove]

The hard mode is interesting but feels like a too hard basket fix to the ai. It would be nice to get it after the ai was fixed because now they can just say play easy if it’s hard or play hard if it’s easy.

No need to dig deep into the fundamental issues with the ai

[covert hamlet]

i don’t think id rather get shot with either but which one would screw me up worse

[waxen grove]

Nah I mean the fact the game is so close to greatness. It’s a game I want to love but just can’t

[civic tundra]

I agree but I can’t say I like it because the darkness of it

[full quarry]

I have the uncencsored mod for PC but not because I wanna see it, because I like the more dark aspect of the game. Like in the valley of dolls they changed the pictures to dolls like the guy has a fettish for dolls or something 😭. That aint even illegal bru why we raiding his house. I perfer less family friendly and more realistic.

but only because its more realistic in that sense.

[waxen grove]

we be triggering the filters today boys lol