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[rocky plover]

Possible got hit to the sides? Or headshot

[tacit gull]

no bias

[worldly root]

idk i just get 2 shotted in my legs

[worldly root]

or 2 shotted in my arms and i die

[rocky plover]

[worldly root]

first map im giving up on bruh

bluds are just blowing themselves up cause my ai cant arrest them

might just run it on casual to get the stuff cause what the fuck

[rocky plover]

So you finding it harder than GP or VotD? 😂

[worldly root]

somehow yea

suspects tank my beanbags, i die from two shots to the legs, and my AI just dont arrest people so they blow themselves up

[rocky plover]

Most likely tired and need a break, and re approach on a fresh mind

[worldly root]

ill try casual now just to get the stuff then ill come back

[rocky plover]

What's makes it a bit harder is they start very stressed on that map so they be aggressive from the beginning

[misty island]

What maps use weapons stashes?

[rocky plover]

Stolen Valor, 3 letter triad, leviathan, ides of march for sure

Trying to remember if there's more...idk...

[worldly root]

ok casual is a cake walk wtf

[rocky plover]

Literally

[worldly root]

well i got the tat so thats all that matters to me

[misty island]

Buy cheap

[misty island]

To be honest, I do not remember seeing any weapon stashes in Ides of March.

[gritty nova]

Not weapon stashes but there were some cases with weapons inside as well as some sniper rifles laying around

[misty island]

I was asking about the relatively new stashes mechanic. Saw how on Leviathan suspect was endlessly gargling ammo for his weapon in a loop.

[gritty nova]

Wait what? They go to a weapon stash to get ammo?

[misty island]

Well, it is not a weapons stash, but rather some bag that suspect bug on.
You know the spot where you can contact Coast on the rig? In the next room you do the soft objective ans there might be hostage.
There is a bag, where suspect try to take ammo(I presume) and they are stuck in endless loop.

[misty island]

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15957315264472955180/64A47A883D51D344F4CDE90D735A2F5001EEC703/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

This room

[gritty nova]

Leviathan is the oil rig mission right? I don't have the dlc sadly

[misty island]

Yes, the oil rig.
You can play with someone who has it.

And get all the achievements.

[gritty nova]

Oh I know that it's just that I play with friends and I don't think I would have any fun playing with randoms

I will probably get the dlc eventually

Though I heard the dark waters one is bad

[misty island]

Definitely wait for discount.

[chilly thorn]

They are both good

Home invasion is just overall higher quality but thats only because its 3 amazing maps compared to 2 amazing maps and one mediocre map

[sick fiber]

What is better for damage? The GA416, or the LVAR?

[gusty marten]

whats neon tomb like

[gusty marten]

what the fuck we have the exact same name

[sick fiber]

We don't?

[gusty marten]

jaydon

[sick fiber]

Prob should not put your IRL name for everyone to see but alr.

[gusty marten]

dude its literally your username

[sick fiber]

Does not mean thats my real name.

[gusty marten]

yea okay so jaydon anderson as your twitch name and people think to themsleves "oh yea that a completely random false username"

[sick fiber]

It is.

[gusty marten]

sure

[sick fiber]

Why would I put my whole name on the internet to see?

[worldly root]

does difficulty make a difference with suspect spawns

[dry oracle]

Yes. Lower difficulty mean they are usually less of them and easier to find. Harder means they are usually more and harder to find but any difficulty most of the time the spawns are random

[worldly root]

i had the same amount of suspects and they were just as easy to find, but doing a casual S run on neon tomb i had the best suspect spawns ever

like 7-8 of them were all down in the lower levels which made clearing the top so much easier

maybe more than 8 probably 10

[dry oracle]

Just depends really. I’ve had games like that then some games they are hiding in closets

[worldly root]

just gotta luck out on standard then for suspect spawns

[lost inlet]

LVAR.

[surreal pelican]

All has same damage, only diff is what ammo type you use and the size

JHP offers more damage but lesser armour pen, AP is vice versa

[frosty crow]

i saw a civ sprinting at me and i panicked but he started surrendering right as i opened fire. but i managed not to get a unnecessary force penalty

[covert aurora]

Well done!

[worldly root]

ok i managed to S neon tomb on standard because i had good spawns for once

[vivid widget]

oh does 5.56 AP not penetrate l4 plates?

[lost inlet]

416 uses 5.56 and LVAR uses .300 blk, they do not have the same damage.

[surreal pelican]

Whoops, mb

[lost inlet]

Every AP rifle round can penetrates all types of armor the suspects wears.

[surreal pelican]

It pens L4

[vivid widget]

ah ok

just making sure

also hide and seek is the only mission i need to do for i'm too old for this

and then it's s rank time

[worldly root]

hide and seek is somehow the only mission i needa do to complete the game

cause ive gotten ranks on all maps in single and multiplayer but never hide and seek this is gonna suck

[frosty crow]

i could hop in a game with you if you want to S rank it

[worldly root]

but i gotta complete relapse in singleplayer

[frosty crow]

oh

[worldly root]

yeah i played relapse in multiplayer not singleplayer so i gotta replay it

may as well go for an S rank and see how that goes

[frosty crow]

you know the AI has infinite ammo for the launcher so place it at 0 and just use the rest of the slots for equipment

[worldly root]

no need for gas?

[frosty crow]

nah just use the m32 flash launcher

[worldly root]

alr

ill prob use the beanbag and have them abuse the launcher and see how that goes

[frosty crow]

you should also use the launcher cause it can stun entire rooms if you shoot at the middle with it

you also get 6 rounds of it +1 round for every slot you put towards its ammo

[civic fiber]

74 HOURS ON GTA WTF

[sick fiber]

Yes of course.

[worldly root]

my first run of relapse goes good until i get bum rushed by the last suspect and get two shot with a pistol

second run: i get sprayed in the back in an animation and die instantly

these spawns aint spawning

[vivid widget]

there are better guns for each caliber

LVAR is higher damage than GA416 but on hard it barely matters, only the penetration matters

hell even on standard 5.56 and .300 blkout still only 2 shot to the chest, 7.62 is one hit

[dry oracle]

If anyone wants to play for a while tonight I’ll be available in about an hour. I use a mic and take the game seriously but not try hard serious. Looking for the same people.

Psn: BoeDryphus

Epic: BoeDryphus

[rocky plover]

Ye it has a few of them as well, well leviathan has a lot of them so thats maybe why

[vivid widget]

i love how on the main doc the first blurb you see when you see hard mode is:

"This is not a real mode. Do not play w/SWAT AI unless you are a masochist."

[rocky plover]

🤣

[vivid widget]

glad the last mission i need to do is hide and seek

[rocky plover]

[pliant ruin]

What is y’all’s thoughts on the best pistol to use

?

[lost inlet]

five seven.

[oblique palm]

Do hostile npcs ever take themselves out if ykwim

[cedar mulch]

I'd much rather see MLO appear in PvE rather than PvP. They'd be better off using other factions in PvP.

[vivid widget]

5/7 or MK-V

[dry oracle]

Kill themselves? Just say that

[chilly thorn]

they all do work

[pliant ruin]

I think it’s against TOS to say that fr

[chilly thorn]

Glock 19 is my fav with the MArk V for pure chaos

[pliant ruin]

Or sum like that

[oblique palm]

I tried to but it automodded

[dry oracle]

I’ll find out

[chilly thorn]

They can, They can even pretend to do it and then point it at you last second

[feral minnow]

all i know is that George Brixley from The Spider will do so if you take down his morale to a certain level

[chilly thorn]

The fake out animation is INCREDIBLY rare but I put a vid of it in the media thing

[vivid widget]

i’ve never actually seen this before

well neither suspects killing themselves or faking out suicides

also does the mp5/10mm auto even have any advantage over the normal mp5 variants other than the dogshit recoil?

[celest hare]

Yooo, @chilly thorn that was a good clip

[vivid widget]

just checked, literally nothing

not even 10mm AP will penetrate better than 9mm AP

jhp is the same
literally what is the point of 10mm

[lost inlet]

more damage.

[lost inlet]

the illusion of variable choices.

[vivid widget]

does it even change the shots required to incap?

[lost inlet]

yes.

since it copied .45 ACP's damage chart.

[vivid widget]

how many shots

[lost inlet]

normally 2.

went up to 3 on ides of march.

[vivid widget]

and 9mm is 3

[lost inlet]

this is standard.

[lost inlet]

yep.

[vivid widget]

doesn't it not penetraate the people with l4 plates?

[lost inlet]

ides of march only have L2 armor.

[vivid widget]

oh i mistook it for sins of the father

[lost inlet]

and you need 200 damage to incap one while AP 10mm/.45 deals 90.

[lost inlet]

oh, then don't bother using it.

you're better off using JHP and shoots in the legs.

[vivid widget]

yeah at that point use rifle calibers

[bitter iron]

I am such a dumbass

I didn't realize that the m11 compact is the p229

[unborn elbow]

do i get aim assist when using ds4 or other controller emulator?

[jolly verge]

You should not use aim assist

It's broken

[unborn elbow]

why

[rocky plover]

Cos it's very inconsistent

[jolly verge]

[elder coyote]

Just bought RoN like rn, any tips while im downloading?

[jovial urchin]

Ready or not is the type of game where a SWAT unit cosplaying British SAS soldier with a Airsoft shotgun arrests a Feminist cult.

[gritty nova]

Don’t rush anything and play on standard difficulty

[surreal pelican]

I still fail to understand why the default helmet colour assigned is Ranger Green while the default clothes and vest is black

[rocky plover]

There's no consistency & organisation in the customisation section....
Some items got multicam but no aor1, others that should match with it got aor1 but not multicam or vice versa lol

[surreal pelican]

Yea, I mean the thing that confuses me the most is that even the mismatched Helmet and Gear kit is shown in the RON trailers

[rocky plover]

Lol that's even worse

Wardrobe malfunction caught on tape!

[surreal pelican]

One of my gripes is the ERT carbon helmet. The one without the mesh, the tan variant just looks wayyy too fuckin bright compared to the one with the tan mesh

[surreal pelican]

It was the 1.0 trailer too I think

[rocky plover]

I feel like they don't know the difference between OCP & multicam and tan & fde

[surreal pelican]

Yea

Like I'm not shitting you, the variant without the helmet mesh looks very very bright

But the helmet mesh variant one looks just nice, not too bright but also at the same time it's not too dull/dark, matches the FISA LB vest and the other tan clothes

[rocky plover]

All the helmets are horrendous NGL, had a hard time picking the 'best'

[surreal pelican]

I just settled on the ERT carbon one

[rocky plover]

And even then I was still limited due to colours matching the rest of outfit

[surreal pelican]

Yea

[surreal pelican]

I think this is the best looking one so far

[rocky plover]

Forgot which one I'm using it's been a while since I looked at the customisation portion

[surreal pelican]

Hol up, how come I can't post screenshots in the channel no more?

[surreal pelican]

Pretty much the reason why I've been sticking with FISA HRT is because idk what else to make, not much to work with

[rocky plover]

Oh lmao there was an incident 1 or 2 days ago and they closed the channel for a couple minutes, now it's open but I think they forgot to open image permissions

[surreal pelican]

o

I'll send you my drip in the other channel

[rocky plover]

Ye the one under it should work

[surreal pelican]

Yea it works

[rocky plover]

Scam bots/stolen accounts raided the other channel with the same picture over and over

[surreal pelican]

Damn

[rocky plover]

Similar to mine with the difference of gpnvgs instead of nvgs

And uh ballistic mask

Anti flash goggles different colour too

But the rest very similar

[surreal pelican]

I initially ran GPNVGs because of the wider view but then the more I stared into them on my helmet, the more odd they looked on there

[surreal pelican]

Yellow tint right?

[rocky plover]

Ye they are bigger, but I hate how nvg looks when using barely any awareness with them

[surreal pelican]

Flipped up right?

[rocky plover]

When using the normal nvg's I mean

[surreal pelican]

ohhh

[rocky plover]

The only one that doesn't look weird when used with ballistic mask forgot it's name

Fisa something i think

[surreal pelican]

Ohhhhh

FISA goggles

[storm belfry]

The ones that attach to the helmet and not the face

[surreal pelican]

I just can't erase that the gpnvgs look really funny and odd to me when they're flipped up on the helmet

[rocky plover]

Yeah the others ones looks to be thrown in depth than the ballistic mask if that makes sense lol

[rocky plover]

Ye exactly

This ^

[surreal pelican]

Got a pic?

[storm belfry]

I've worn stuff like that, it's uncomfortable to wear things stacked like that

[storm belfry]

I'm to lazy to open up my game rn

[rocky plover]

True true but when it's time to use them, I would hate that I have nvg and not gpnvgs

[surreal pelican]

All g

[rocky plover]

Can imagine especially trying to find the red dot lol

[surreal pelican]

The normal pair loses out even to the flashlight attachment

[rocky plover]

Wdym?

[surreal pelican]

Atp I just have the NVGs on just so the helmet dont look weird without them

[surreal pelican]

Like I feel the dual tube NVGs they don't really provide that much of illumination compared to the normal flashlight attachment

[storm belfry]

You ever seen dudes dressing up for CBRN?

[rocky plover]

Yeah the gas mask is the worst for view

[storm belfry]

I remember how I once dressed up head to waist in like 4 layers of winter clothes then put on sweat pants before, so I may be a poor judge for wearing stuff over stuff ngl

[rocky plover]

True but still got it's place for it sometimes, also looks weird without nvg completely cos the fucking nvg mount is still on the helmet .....

[rocky plover]

Damn

[storm belfry]

I haven't had a proper set of overalls since like 2015

But I know how it feels to wear that kinda setup that Judge has with the goggles, helmet, and mask

[rocky plover]

Can't imagine the sweat

[storm belfry]

-# it's very sweaty if you put enough gear on

[surreal pelican]

Yea... Even for dual tube yes?

[rocky plover]

Yeah

[surreal pelican]

I haven't really tried using it with the flashlight as illuminator lel

[rocky plover]

I do sometimes since we don't have a dedicated IR flashlight....

[storm belfry]

3 NVGs and no 3 Tube NVG

[surreal pelican]

But I'd love and hope to see that we get a IR illuminator next update

[surreal pelican]

and no single tube.. unless you count the swat 99 one(?)

[storm belfry]

That's single tube

[surreal pelican]

whoops

[storm belfry]

Cause it's a single tube

the other two are more modern

[surreal pelican]

[storm belfry]

I wonder whenever 4 tube will get multicolor

[rocky plover]

Supporter edition have it

Everyone should have it tho

[storm belfry]

If my little GI Joe in Insurgency gets it my super soldier should too

[surreal pelican]

Next big step after balaclava: allowing for nvg colour customisation

[rocky plover]

Swat 99 is dual tube though not single tube just look so tall though

[storm belfry]

I'm talking about it being a single uh

what do you call the other part...

It is 2 tube but it sees as 1 big tube

That sounds right, kinda

[surreal pelican]

that's what I was sayin earlier

[rocky plover]

Ohhh like a 1 perfect circle instead of being it a bit semi circle for more horizontal view?

[elder coyote]

What do i pick? Single player or new game

Help please im lost

[storm belfry]

I personally just use the fancy pants 40k and a arm nvgs

[storm belfry]

It's two eyes in one sight line

[rocky plover]

Single players give you the option for commander mode, quick play and training while new game puts you straight in commander mode

[storm belfry]

We're on different languages at his point 💔

[rocky plover]

Ye that's what I was trying to say

[storm belfry]

That's what I'm saying

[rocky plover]

😂

[storm belfry]

Same answer yet we all got different equations

[elder coyote]

So what do i pick first

[surreal pelican]

But we all can agree;

We want nvg colour customisation

[storm belfry]

yes

[rocky plover]

Training

[surreal pelican]

iwanttan

[storm belfry]

I hate seeing everything in green

[rocky plover]

White > green that's for sure

At least for me

[surreal pelican]

I love white too

[storm belfry]

you wut

[surreal pelican]

I love white phosphor the colour for nvg

[elder coyote]

Whats next? Oh btw how do you run

[surreal pelican]

No running, but you can walk faster

[rocky plover]

Green just hurts my eyes

[elder coyote]

How

[surreal pelican]

You and me are on same frequency

[gritty nova]

Space

[rocky plover]

Follow the instructions given in training

[elder coyote]

What do i do next after i finish training?

[surreal pelican]

Play first mission

[elder coyote]

Quick play or commander mode

[elder coyote]

Where to find

[gritty nova]

Either commander mode or multiplayer if you have any friends playing the game I highly recommend playing with them

[surreal pelican]

Commander mode if you want to go with story mode,

Quick play if you don't want to deal with team stress and stuff

[rocky plover]

As he said^ they are same thing (both with swat AI) but commander mode has stress to deal with but it gives officer traits so your choice

[surreal pelican]

It's a rite of passage when you play greased palms for the first time

[gritty nova]

And also in commander mode you have to complete missions in order

[rocky plover]

Even in QP if you never unlocked them

[gritty nova]

It wasn’t that hard for me

[surreal pelican]

And every officer fired/left the force/KIA is permanent

[rocky plover]

Only in MP they are unlocked right from the start

[gritty nova]

Wait really? I think I had them all (even the ones I didn’t play)

[elder coyote]

Thanks guys

[surreal pelican]

My first playthrough on standard was easy because cheese with Flash Launcher, Hard S rank was more frustrating

[rocky plover]

That's because you had unlocked them before somehow

Even if it failed as a mission

[surreal pelican]

One more thing,

Give your team AI heavy vest steel. Thank me later. For you run steel light for extra utility slots

[storm belfry]

Relapse and Greased Palms is probably where player retention drops dramatically lol

[gritty nova]

Or maybe it was multiplayer

[rocky plover]

MP they're all unlocked

[gritty nova]

Relapse is the night club?

[surreal pelican]

Can agree,

I kept relapsing on relapse when I was trying to both clear it normally and S rank it on hard mode

[surreal pelican]

Hospital

[storm belfry]

Hospital

[rocky plover]

Relapse is hospital

Neon tomb is club

[storm belfry]

Where you go after S rank Hard mode Relapse

[surreal pelican]

Aka the mission which ROE doesn't apply

[rocky plover]

Could say the same for VotD

😂

[surreal pelican]

I went to Port Hokan and never came back (tho I did for the DLC missions, Hard then S ranked them on Hard because itchy fingers)

[storm belfry]

The mission where my Rubber Shotgun mysterious racks a 12g slug

[surreal pelican]

VoTD manageable if you snipe them idiots from the third floor window, tho this is less feasible if non lethal..

[rocky plover]

Whenever someone mentions S on hard I get 3 letter triad flashbacks bro

[surreal pelican]

No more no more nonmre no more nkmire

[gritty nova]

Neon tomb was the hardest for me so far

[rocky plover]

Amen.

[rocky plover]

Yea true

[surreal pelican]

It's worse than GP, there's a lot of places those idiots can squeeze thru and that big fucking ass room at the ground floor pool room looking thing

[storm belfry]

I hate the music for how many headaches I got repeating that mission like +20 times

[rocky plover]

Not to mention where the package spawns, expect around 7 suspects lol

[surreal pelican]

That's why I always go main entrance

Coz you can order one team to guard the cache while the other follows you to clear the first potential package area (ground floor) then eventually the second floor

[storm belfry]

Once had a friend die there, so I used a flash grenade and ended up capturing like 80% the guards

[rocky plover]

Well get the hardest part over with I get it but I go solo most of the time not with AI so that's entrance is hard for me

[surreal pelican]

And you can get some stupid easy kills with the team that's guarding the unsecured cache at main entrance

[surreal pelican]

Did you get Sleeper agent? I had to sacrifice 3 of my 4 AI teammates. Only Prescott survived 110-Montauk

[rocky plover]

💀

[surreal pelican]

Something I learnt is to not C2 the door at main entrance 😂, it'll either go as planned or horribly

[rocky plover]

Yeah it's a bit too far for them

Would just make them more agitated

[surreal pelican]

Ya

[storm belfry]

You had me at 3/4 sacrificed

[surreal pelican]

They died for a good cause

[storm belfry]

My dudes literally dress up as modern knights 💔

[surreal pelican]

Mine is just FISA HRT all the way

[storm belfry]

I give them max armor, Ballistic Masks, and shields

[rocky plover]

Same except the shield part

[storm belfry]

They're my Rooks for whenever I do something stupid

[surreal pelican]

Heavy Steel, no ballistic and 1 shield

[elder coyote]

Thanks

[rocky plover]

Why no ballistic mask

Free extra protection

[surreal pelican]

Drip man

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck officer

[rocky plover]

Ah I see looks over function

[surreal pelican]

Tho I'm considering running ballistic WITH the yellow tinted flash goggles

They look really really nice together

Only gripe is the ballistic colour mask

[rocky plover]

Ye they are, only good combo imo others look weird with the ballistic

Choose the hrt one it's multicam

[surreal pelican]

Thanks brotha

[rocky plover]

👍

[surreal pelican]

Is it tan colour? I haven't used it in a while ever since I finished the stupid Hard S journey

[rocky plover]

For the ballistic mask, there should be a multicam one, apart from black, RG and tan

Think it's HRT or smth

[soft swan]

will they be adding RoN to mac?

[surreal pelican]

Sweet, might try the combo then. Coz I'm running the FISA LB drip

[rocky plover]

Yea

[soft swan]

cause i wanna play it SOOOOOO BADLY

but im on mac 🙁

[gritty nova]

Mac has no steam or what?

[hybrid wren]

What do you feel about missions ending isntantly after all tasks are done?

Though nah silly question

What do you think about the isolator in ingame lobby

[soft swan]

it has steam but like it says its for windows

[elder coyote]

Where do you find these

[storm belfry]

I've done it before on Hide and Seek, feels tough

[surreal pelican]

Armour material

Go to vests and you should see the types of armour (eg light, heavy) and somewhere around there youll find the armour material to choose

[elder coyote]

Thabks

I fully set up my team

[hybrid wren]

Why does this game lag so much

[gritty nova]

Prolly your pc

I recommend turning dlss on

[hybrid wren]

Yeah it is

Forgot to connect it to the plug

Just finished Mindjolt mission first try

S rank

[old rock]

Any advice on S ranking greased palms solo on console

[jovial urchin]

Beanbag.

[worldly root]

beanbag shotgun and flashbang launcher

[old rock]

Is the beanbag better then the pepper ball rifle?

[cedar mulch]

How many months has VOID gone without revealing any development updates?

WTF

[jolly verge]

Depends
Beanbag need only 1 shot to stun while pepperballs 4 shots on standart and 6 on hard
Beanbag stun duration is 3 sec and 1.5 sec on hard, pepperballs - 8 sec on standart and 4 sec on hard
Pepperballs can create 3m gas cloud that stuns suspects and blocks their vision
Beanbag can kill on headshot

[old rock]

Thank you for the tip
I’ll try it after the way out west trophy

[covert aurora]

almost 3

[cedar mulch]

VOID's current pace is even slower than that of some independent developers.

[dull nova]

Barely beat out by pirate software

[covert aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh lark]

Void is an indie studio anyways

[covert aurora]

^

[cedar mulch]

They are now a company with over fifty employees. Perhaps they are preparing for a new project.

[torpid onyx]

no patches or hotfixes in like 5 months 🥀🥀🥀

[marsh lark]

number of employees does not classify it as indie or not indie

[torpid onyx]

floating casings is gonna become a permanent feature

[marsh lark]

What, by definition classes a game or company as Indie is that they do not sell out to major publishers.

[cedar mulch]

I have a feeling VOID's ambitions won't stop here; they might wrap up this game in 2027 and then move on to more profitable genres.

[covert aurora]

that's cause their probably working on something bigger. this is their standart update cycle mo. 1 big 3 small into 1 big

[marsh lark]

If they have a development team, and playerbase surrounded around a specific genre, I wholeheartedly doubt that they will go out of their way to venture into a competitive market where you have 50 of other games and major companies doing the same or similar thing.

[marsh lark]

It is already fixed, but the patch is not live since patches dont happen to fix a single issue unless that issue prevents people from playing the game

[cedar mulch]

VOID possesses a talent for crafting horror games.

[covert aurora]

not wrong tbh 🤣 with how suspect jump scare people

[marsh lark]

That would still depend, there are very good games in the horror genre and lots of good companies.

[cedar mulch]

VOID ranks among the top ten in the industry for atmospheric horror.

[marsh lark]

As things stand now, RoN stands infront of every game that does the same. No matter the issues it has, or whatever it lacks, it is still the best you can get. Other companies that are in this genre are also pretty small, and their development cycle takes twice as long as Void's.

I grew up on different horror games, or even shooter games with horror elements that simply beat whatever horror games we get today, or have gotten in the last few years.

The last ever horror game that actually had me really interested and captivated was Alien Isolation.

[valid raven]

They should improve ai teammates two things that would improve them imo the ability to order them to use a specific weapon or weapons free

That way so you equip one of them with a beanbag and you want them to switch to a pistol

[marsh lark]

SWAT AI has been feeling mid since the last update, I think that will get resolved in the next update. However most of us will agree that the SWAT AI we had before this update was full of John Wicks

[valid raven]

I personally like the beanbag shotgun as it has decent range for a less lethal

Why do people complain about long barrels never been a issue for me

Is it because i hold my gun at low ready during general movement and i don’t really shoot and move I tend to try to stay in a position of cover as much as possible

like if I see a hallway i treat it the same as a door way

[cedar mulch]

VOID could develop a horror game from the suspect's perspective. Within the coyote map, supernatural elements are clearly present, and cartel members have heard the sound of a child crying.

[orchid comet]

hey so is brisa cove based of the october 1st 2017 shooting in nevada?

[marsh lark]

People complain because they hug door frames, or let suspects get too close causing their weapon to go into the high ready state

[cedar mulch]

I believe that in Ron's case, the suspect did indeed encounter some unknown circumstances.

[valid raven]

Literally never had that issue

[marsh lark]

No idea how I would imagine that.

[valid raven]

do they not lean into the room

Because thats useful because you can snap back behind the wall if you take fire

[marsh lark]

People treat the game differently. Some are aware of the clearance space needed, and some simply don't/can't and rather use short guns

Gunfighter mod helps with longs guns getting stuck, as it attempts to make you pull your gun closer to you, or more around a certain object so you can shoot.

[cedar mulch]

During their excavation, the cartel members may have encountered numerous terrifying occurrences.

[valid raven]

doctrinely you’re not supposed to put your body right up against the cover you should stand behind it but a bit back

So you have good clearance

[cedar mulch]

3LT may also possess supernatural elements. I believe MLO utilised it as a base at certain points, only to depart for reasons unknown.

😱

[rustic wigeon]

just got all the s ranks 🥳

never doing that again

[brave kayak]

bro boutta vomit when someone says "guys wanna do S rank" in voice XDD

[hybrid wren]

It's pretty that this became the common definition of this word

[tender geyser]

On a ruined run if an officer goes down, but you have a paramedic does that count as one of your officers dying or are you good?

[hybrid wren]

They tell if officer died or retired on the scoreboard

[jolly verge]

The Hermit - no KIA and incaps
Dev Watch - no KIA and resigns

[tender geyser]

Thank you captain

[marsh lark]

Well, it depends on the publishing

[rustic wigeon]

would be more manageable in multiplayer

[neon glacier]

Yoyo what's up guys am new to the pc scene

[brave kayak]

U missed a few chapters.. 😇

[neon glacier]

What did I miss

[worldly root]

is relapse supposed to be harder to S than greased palms or am i just bad

[marsh lark]

Greased palms is harder for most people

[cedar mulch]

If this level featured the FAL and G3, the experience would be significantly enhanced.

[prime geode]

Anyone here play Ready or Not? wanna run it w me and the guys?

We have a Squad of 6 right now

[marsh lark]

Best chance of you getting players to join you is in #🔎looking-for-players

[dull temple]

In the game it shows that i completed 12 missions on hard difficulty. But the Steam achivement only says i´ve completed 9. How can i fix it?
I currently play with mods and using the Quick Play to play the missions

[marsh lark]

Unfortunately sometimes it does not trigger towards the achievement, which means you have to replay those missions if you remember them, or play through every single one

[prime geode]

roger

[jaunty wraith]

For the emperor trophy, do all traits have to have been unlocked on one save

[covert aurora]

yes

[jaunty wraith]

Thanks

[tacit gull]

you can just farm all of them in like 10 mins

on gas

[stone bay]

Is it just me or would it be cool to have some real life music in the market on the spider like it is an actual market or sm. just a thought.

[ruby tree]

When wil new update

[tacit gull]

when developer wake up

[vivid widget]

what fov do you guys use

i just max it out for both world and weapon

[chilly thorn]

This game is already going for a horror game type vibe

[abstract cedar]

just got medal of valor

yippee!

[thin thorn]

Pvp when

[prime spear]

How would it even work.

[copper silo]

you shoot other people

[thin thorn]

Really

[prime spear]

“i just max it out for both world and weapon”
🔄Translating🔄
“I’m used to max FOV because of FPS games.”

[prime spear]

At that point just introduce trading cards.

[vivid widget]

well, yes(?)

[prime spear]

The Steam trading cards.

[prime spear]

Then?
You play 4:3?

[vivid widget]

no?

[prime spear]

Phew..

[vivid widget]

ok

[tired jungle]

Language not languaging

[drowsy chasm]

Will the multiattachnent update be early 2026?

[rocky plover]

On this game - max for both world and weapon and on ultra wide

[vivid widget]

hey same here, also using an ultrawide

[rocky plover]

Nice and nice

[soft swan]

will RoN come to macbook?

[frosty crow]

god i love the mp7

[rocky plover]

Best smg!

[uncut widget]

It’s on Mobile alr, so for yeah sure

[frosty crow]

No its not?

you can do remote play but thats not mobile

[uncut widget]

It is bro, ask ex Community manager. He knows

[uncut widget]

If you mean like a launchers, then yeah this too

[chilly thorn]

hopefully never

[frosty crow]

I mean its playable on mobile through remote or cloud play

so i guess

[uncut widget]

It is released on mobile and free like genshin impact

307 mb to donwload apk

[frosty crow]

i am searching for the apk download i dont think it exists idk where your getting this information from

you probably miss heard or are missremembering something

[uncut widget]

[uncut widget]

[frosty crow]

genuinely it doesnt exist there is no native version of ready or not for mobile

[uncut widget]

It is

You just search not carefully

The One Who Seeks Something, Always Finds It

• 67 Prophets Of Skibidi Father.

[viscid thistle]

Ready or not should stay only on pc and console

Its just gonna get even worse if its launched somewhere else

Console already made lots of changes

[worldly root]

ready or not on the switch 2027

[soft swan]

ready or not on mac 2026

[worldly root]

bomb

also im prob just struggling on relapse cause i keep getting lost

[worldly root]

do i infil from parking garage or main entrance in relapse

[boreal fossil]

is there like something going on with void interactive cuz of the lack of new content in the base game?

[covert aurora]

Nope, this is normal dev cycle

[cedar mulch]

But that is not the main point.

[vivid widget]

i've been at hide and seek on hard for the whole day bro

this is miserable

[rustic wigeon]

I just did all S on standard, idk if I wanna play hard

[worldly root]

any advice for relapse? im thinking about doing main entrance rather than parking lot

work my way up the hospital instead of down

[surreal pelican]

Main entrance

[rustic wigeon]

I managed it with the parking lot entrance but don't recommend tbh

The bridge becomes a big problem

[bitter iron]

Ok doing elephant now

who's the bad guy and should we go lethal or non lethal on him?

[neon island]

non lethal?

never heard of her

[surreal pelican]

^ This, that's why I go with Main Entrance

[surreal pelican]

The ones who has gear

There's 4 of them iirc and they usually near bombs

[worldly root]

i was wondering main entrance first to get the bottom floors dealt with first cause i tend to struggle with those

[surreal pelican]

Yea main entrance to clear bottom floors too

[worldly root]

also trying to S rank it and i always die in the bottom floors

[bitter iron]

so take them down or pepper them up nicely?

[surreal pelican]

Pepper is useless

So just use beanbag shotgun or flash launcher

[bitter iron]

I'm asking if i should kill them or go for s rank and just shoot them non lethally

[neon island]

nothing beats shoot to kill, sure u wont get as much benefits but its the quickest way to solve problems

[bitter iron]

alr time to shoot

with nods

either way dudes have bombs, they count as terrorists now

and we don't negotiate with terrorists ™

[subtle river]

hey guys

I can draw paths and points on the map of the level in my tablet, but idk how this works or how can I use it, can smb help me?

[hybrid belfry]

you can use it to plan your entry, tbh no one uses it so it doesnt really matter

everyone just storms in

ik that the game is supposed to be very realistic and shi, but with that additional planning it just becomes boring

[copper flint]

so like

is this game gonna get an update lmao

at the very least trading cards, have i missed any dev logs or something

[mystic palm]

Im gonna start doing solo runs, any tip to give me?

[tacit gull]

It doesn't do anything

[quasi coral]

WHERE ARE MY HYBRID SIGHTS

2 more briefings to go, genuinely don't think I can survive this

[tacit gull]

Honestly this update is especially slow and they really have nothing to show for it which is kinda worrying

[prisma wyvern]

Why does the 5.7 pistol have negative recoil

[cedar mulch]

VOID may well conclude this game next year.

[tacit gull]

I kinda doubt it but if updates go from 6 months to 1 year i'll be able to laugh at it like i do ground branch

[rocky plover]

Yea

[hybrid wren]

What FOV do you use?

[rocky plover]

^

[thorn basin]

@twin maple this is Banda hit me up your good

[bronze sequoia]

Gotta love the guy with a 12 gauge shotgun dry-humping me and being able to put huge holes through me while I am basically defenseless as I try to back up while lightly tapping him with my gun because I can’t shoot back with my sub machine gun

[chilly thorn]

Their probably scared of not showing enough for the dev blogs from fear of more backlash

These devs have kinda been beaten into submission by their fanbase a lil

[tacit gull]

That hasn't stopped them from making newsletters about shoes in the past

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but I don’t remember their fans in the past hating them and the game this much lmao

[tacit gull]

Problem is i'm more worried about the fact there IS nothing to show, if the update is just 5 attachments and 3 new maps with some new customization i'm gonna be very sad

[chilly thorn]

I doubt that

We dont even know enough about the attachment update to know how much it will change

There’s lots of potential in the new system

I’m honestly

……more excited for the bug fixes

I’m sick of the swat ai all melding up into a blob

And please don’t tell me the bullet casings disappearing are gonna be permanent

[tacit gull]

from what i know the devs consider the swat ai functional

And honestly i dont think the new attachment system is gonna change anything really, it seems like a ridiculously minor change

[chilly thorn]

Functional doesn’t mean bugless

[chilly thorn]

I mean carry handles, new lasers, possibly new stocks, it will bring a whole new element to all the weapons if done correctly.

And for fashion or not players it’s greatly appreciated

But again I highly doubt that’s all that will be added

[tacit gull]

I think functional doesn't mean unable to carry our simple tasks but what do i know

[chilly thorn]

There’s at least going to be a 3 new maps and there are some interesting things in the files if you go peaking around

[tacit gull]

As for the carryhandles and everything else it's probably gonna be all cosmetic with minimal gameplay changes

[chilly thorn]

I mean

That’s how attachments are in all games in

Besides like payday 2

[tacit gull]

There's just not going to be any reason to use anything but PEQs and anything but LPVOs

Payday 2 has most of its attachments have gameplay benefits and balancing

Some are simply just upgrades like 60 round mags with no downsides (what)

Sandstorm has great gunplay and gameplay enhancing attachments

And they're all balanced around the loadout system

[chilly thorn]

Sandstorm attachments were fine I guess

I didn’t really care for the stats

Like why would I put a recoil grip on a m1 garand that’s just ugly

[tacit gull]

they were pretty important for uh

some guns

[tacit gull]

what about rifle grenades

[chilly thorn]

I used those as blunt force bullets lowkey

[rocky plover]

This ^, especially from what they only showed, this is how it feels like, or they're running out of ideas lol

[chilly thorn]

Launched that shit into a securities rib cage

[tacit gull]

I've honestly felt like this ever since 1.0 got kicked out the door and to some degree i was right

[rocky plover]

Yea I always said 1.0 was rushed

Like I didn't wanna it be like GB where it stays in EA either but it felt like it was rushed

[chilly thorn]

The devs seem to be focusing on the “Military-Sim” type fans rather then the immersive sim type fans which kinda pisses me off

[tacit gull]

Like is the game more playable now compared to 1.0? Sure, is it fundamentally different? NO. Is it fundamentally better? Hell no, plenty of shit got downgraded or dumbed down from even before 1.0

[chilly thorn]

The last like net positive update we had was dark waters

[tacit gull]

Biggest changes are probably the hesitation animations and the taser actually working

[chilly thorn]

Dark waters was fucking sweet

[chilly thorn]

Taser needs to be nerfed to shit honestly

[tacit gull]

The dark waters maps were pretty cool, but that update fucked the game up beyond belief in some ways

[rocky plover]

Yea.. there's other games for that

True agree

[tacit gull]

Bro dark waters launched with suspect arrest bugs

You could NOT S RANK THE GAME

[rocky plover]

I miss some of the old maps and some maps also had up to 5 different modes...

[tacit gull]

That shit is unacceptable

[chilly thorn]

I honestly never had that happen in single player

I do remember people complaining about the surrender animation where they pointed the gun at you

But I feel like that animation was a good thing, a good test of the mind.

[tacit gull]

No, that animation was a terrible thing that punished people who didn't metagame and know the animations by heart

If you look at it from the point of a person looking at the game for the first time without knowing the shitty mechanisms behind it then they WILL SHOOT and they WILL get penalized for something that feels unfair

[chilly thorn]

I mean the animation clearly showed a lack of aggression

Keeps you on your toes

[rocky plover]

In reality (and I know this is a game and all that bla bla) that shit would get you killed outright

[tacit gull]

Lack of aggression doesn't mean shit if they're actively pointing a gun toward you, all they would have to do is pull the trigger

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but in reality a swat team would be flashbanging some old dudes for a tax mistake

[chilly thorn]

The way they held the gun in the animation made it near impossible to pull the trigger

[rocky plover]

Flashbangs are mostly used for distraction devices for the majority of the time anyways not like how they are in games lol

[chilly thorn]

They would have to readjust their grip

[rocky plover]

I know this would probably be too complicated for them to implement but maybe make it so they remove their mag and the rack the slide to remove the ammo in the chamber and then drop the gun 😂

[chilly thorn]

I’m sorry but if you thought that animation was shoot safe just because of the angle of the barrel even though they held the hand guard with one hand clearly lowering it, then that’s not really like a good look.

[rocky plover]

Instead of pointing that shit at us while surrendering

[chilly thorn]

I think this game needs at least like 25 different variantions of surrender animations

[rocky plover]

True it gets too predictable after a while

[chilly thorn]

Ones that are easy to read and ones that look as if they are doing something else

[tacit gull]

nah instead you get 3 new guns

that are the same or just better than the other guns

[chilly thorn]

I mean

All the new guns we’re pretty neat

I really like the gas launcher

It’s such a vibe

Mark V was kind of a strange choice but it’s a funny joke weapon

590m was sadly kinda ass though

I really don’t see a use in it rather then the supernova for example

I wonder if the new attachment system will allow the ability to take the magazine off and just have a 590..

[tacit gull]

the MGL broke the entire game, the MKV is the best pistol in the game and the 590 just removed the reason to use any other pump action shotgun

[bronze sequoia]

The same could be said about the civilians pulling out their phones or ID and it looks like they’re whipping a gun out
If a gun is pointed towards you you should always have cover, whether it’s a bug or not, because you never know whether it’s a real or a fake surrender

[chilly thorn]

The 590 fucking blows

[tacit gull]

The civilians are a lot more obvious if you just pay attention to their hands, it is not the same as someone actively pointing their gun at you while surrendering

[bronze sequoia]

Until the gun is out of their hands, always assume they’re a threat

[chilly thorn]

What are you talking about do you even play this game lol

[vivid widget]

[chilly thorn]

The 590 is like the worst shotgun

[vivid widget]

shotguns are very strong especially the 590

[tacit gull]

It feels way better than any other shotgun and it reloads way faster, why would you ever use the 870 or the supernova

All of the shotguns essentially act the same anyway

[vivid widget]

i’m partial to the m1014 but yeah

[tacit gull]

yeah m1014 is bae

[chilly thorn]

The 590 has an awkward sway to it due to the weight and it can’t top off like all shoguns

[vivid widget]

i want to own a benelli m4 in real life dude it’s great

[bronze sequoia]

Who are you replying to

[chilly thorn]

It’s just a worse assault rifle at that point lot

[chilly thorn]

Not you dw

[vivid widget]

what

[bronze sequoia]

Ahh ok

[tacit gull]

Assault rifles can't instakill all suspects

[vivid widget]

how are shotguns in any way comparable to rifles

[tacit gull]

or well outside of headshots

[chilly thorn]

Upper chest shot with JHP

[bronze sequoia]

Honestly, MCX is the best gun for me
It just looks so nice and sounds so punchy, the reloads are cronch

[tacit gull]

2 shots with 7.62 on hard mode hard suspects

armor or not

[chilly thorn]

It’s nice

My favorite gun is the Ump45

It’s so good

[vivid widget]

it’s very solid mcx is pretty good

[rocky plover]

590m became my go to weapon before it was b1301 or m1014 lol

The reload is too op

[bronze sequoia]

Oh yeah that’s a good one too, been using it when playing on my Deck

[chilly thorn]

It’s literally the worst reload though it removes the benefit of using a shotgun

[rocky plover]

How ? It's the fastest

[tacit gull]

I wouldn't call it a benefit like at all

[rocky plover]

Since it's mag fed

And ump45 is the worst smg you could pick, worst recoil once you get arm injury

[chilly thorn]

A shotguns strength is that you can top it off and basically never run empty

[tacit gull]

the B1301 especially sucks because its reload takes a decade meanwhile the m1014 the animation is inhumanly fast

[rocky plover]

If the shell by shell reload wouldn't be so ass, then yes I agree

[bronze sequoia]

The only reason I use the 590 is when I just want to ignore ROE and go in guns blazing, otherwise I prefer topping off

[chilly thorn]

Your problem is getting shot

[tacit gull]

the ump is also painfully slow to fire

[rocky plover]

Still I would pick MPX or mp7 any day over ump45 lol

[chilly thorn]

That’s why it’s good

It’s very controlled

[bronze sequoia]

Honestly the UMP’s been fine for me, at least it doesn’t kick like a MF like the FAL

[chilly thorn]

Easy to line up 3 shots on someone’s upper area and incap them

[rocky plover]

Ones a smg ones a 7.62 rifle though lol

[tacit gull]

That's cool and all but i can instantly unload 1200 rounds on a guy's torso with the spc9

[bronze sequoia]

I’m aware, but I’d prefer lower recoil and damage to be able to get more shots landed than missing more shots because my arm gets dislocated every 2bd trigger pull

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but I only have 3 mags

Sooooo

[chilly thorn]

2 for rifles 3 for smgs

[tacit gull]

why

[lost inlet]

Then bring more.

[chilly thorn]

Because I don’t shoot people like.. ever

[tacit gull]

Well they sure love to shoot you

[chilly thorn]

I NEVER SAID THE SPC9 IS BAD LOL

[rocky plover]

I use 4 mags and still never run out not even on the biggest maps

[chilly thorn]

Yeah well I’m supposed to be the goodie I’m not an actual cop

[bronze sequoia]

To me the SPC9 just shoots too fast, the UMP uses less ammo to take down 3 guys than that does, it shoots like a minigun

[chilly thorn]

Exactly

[chilly thorn]

It’s more effective to do short burst rather then just spraying

[vivid widget]

mp7 my goat

[rocky plover]

Best smg

[chilly thorn]

Mp7s pretty nice

Mp5 variants are also really good

All the fuckign guns are good

[tacit gull]

do not speak to me about the mp5/10

[rocky plover]

Viable on more maps due to the ammo it shoots

[lost inlet]

Except the MP5 10.

[chilly thorn]

It looks interesting

[rocky plover]

Ye mp5 are good (except mp510)

[tacit gull]

it also shoots like shit

[rocky plover]

But I slightly prefer MPX

[chilly thorn]

Well who cares if it shoots like shit it looks cool

[tacit gull]

And you cannot take off that FUGLY ASS CLAW RAIL

[chilly thorn]

I think the mag is neat

But it’s definently my least used gun

[tacit gull]

for good reason

anyway mk17 hate

that gun fucking sucks and the reload is louder than the gunshot

fight me

[rocky plover]

Lmao

[lost inlet]

I still remember the day that gun was first introduced, i would always use it on datacenter for some reasons.

[rocky plover]

I don't even use 7.62 tbh

[chilly thorn]

All the 7.62 rifles are clunky and awkward to use

[rocky plover]

Barely any use for it

[chilly thorn]

I hate them

[rocky plover]

Same

[lost inlet]

Boid did get it right that SCAR-H is a pain to use like irl.

[chilly thorn]

And those people dare call 5.56 or smgs “weak”

[tacit gull]

the hk51 is pretty powerful

[rocky plover]

.300 JHP slaps and if I want L4 penetration I'd use 556 AP

[tacit gull]

It has the recoil of 300 and the shot of 7.62

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but that guns butt ugly

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[lost inlet]

I like the G3 more.

[tacit gull]

yeah fair

[lost inlet]

Even though it’s probably the longest gun in the game.

[rocky plover]

They have same recoil profiles

Just ones longer yea

[tacit gull]

i WISH the socom wasn't ugly as fuck

[chilly thorn]

It looks sweet

[tacit gull]

i'd love to use it with irons but the fuckass forced rail RUINS that gun

[chilly thorn]

Imma be honest the only 7.62 I use is the M14 it sound so sweet

It’s full auto mode feels like pure chaos

[tacit gull]

it also has the equip and unequip timing fucked

[lost inlet]

Last time i used it, G3 has a little bit more stability since i can sees stuff clearer while shooting compares to GA51.

[rocky plover]

Yea cos the ga51 has more muzzle flash and smoke

But actual recoil it's the same

[chilly thorn]

They could nerf it

Also I miss the Sa58 I feel like that don’t get the respect it deserves

It’s probably the best 7.62 besides the ga51

[rocky plover]

I think it has more recoil than m14

[chilly thorn]

Ough m14 don’t make me blush

flicks little knob BLAOW BLAOW BLAOW BLAOW BLAOW

[rocky plover]

Hahaha

[coarse osprey]

[idle thunder]

I am waiting for those annoucements to turn white

[mystic palm]

Im gonna start doing solo runs, any tips to give me?

[lost inlet]

Don’t die.

[willow hedge]

What's easier for hard runs:
Run it with bots or with 1-2 mates?

[torpid onyx]

depends on the map but real teamates would be more versatile

the ai are functionally useless in freeform scenarios and are unreliable at best and at worst will just die

[willow hedge]

Rust Belt, Sins of the Father, Carriers of the Vine, Relapse and Hide & Seek.
Tried them for 20h+ with 1-2 without success

[torpid onyx]

but i mean for breaching they essentially automate it for you

[worldly root]

i havent had problems with my ai until trying to do relapse S rank

bros just wander off when i want them to stack up

[torpid onyx]

carriers is kinda fucked for everyone

hide and seek the ai are useless in

[worldly root]

carriers and sins were so easy for me and my ai ngl

[torpid onyx]

rust and sins could work with AI like they're not hard maps

[worldly root]

carriers was just annoying cause i was chasing the last suspect around the map in circles

rust belt i already know im getting lost

[willow hedge]

"not hard maps" cue the montage of me dying for 12h

[torpid onyx]

honestly the main spots I hate for carriers is going thru the clearing in the trees to the church and anywhere near the greenhouses where there's alot of shrubbery in your vision

[worldly root]

yea

[willow hedge]

Everytime I nearly clear the map, some chick shoots her sister in the head and she dies

[torpid onyx]

I got them S ranked pretty fast 👉👈

[worldly root]

yeah sins and carriers using ai took me one try, granted they were like 20 minute sessions

[willow hedge]

S-Rank wasn't that bad, but hard is....well, hard

[worldly root]

greased palms by some miracle took me one try as well and im getting pwnd on relapse

[torpid onyx]

greased in 1 try is diabolical

I gave up on greased even running it with real teamates on comms

[worldly root]

the night before i couldnt pass is lethally
next day i hop on and first try S rank it

flashbang launcher and beanbag shotgun ftw

i also, once cleared the back, just camped door 01 and let all the AI filter towards me

which isnt the best idea but it worked for me i arrested probably like 7 suspects by doing it

nah but i might need to reach out see if anyone wants to do relapse S on standard cause i just get lost and killed cause of it

[urban comet]

If you need help i can first try it

[worldly root]

ngl yea this AI is too dumb to think

"yeah i have a shield let me not use it and get obliterated"

[onyx dome]

Im finally done with valley of the dolls after 4 tries

And a 5th where I assault on solo and kill every1

[hybrid wren]

Does this game have eye adjustment to dark mechanic?

[lost inlet]

no.

[hybrid wren]

Also does anyone else find ingame flashlights to be a bit inconvenient?

[lost inlet]

pitch black is pitch black.

[lost inlet]

sometimes.

[hybrid wren]

I always end up beacuse of this putting on NVGs

If i have to go into remotely dark area

[rocky plover]

I'm kinda the opposite, always end up using flashlight instead of nvgs

But the problem with flashlight the cone seems to be too narrow

[hybrid wren]

And gets too bright sometimes for me

Obscuring what it's supposed to light up

[rocky plover]

Yea sometimes true

But I feel like nvg would make it even worse sometimes

[hybrid wren]

Eh, i not in my expirience

Sure it reduces FOV but only by little

Just put on infrered laser sights and it becomes pretty easy to identify and shoot everything

[rocky plover]

I guess it depends a lot on the monitor screen type, in game settings, gamma, brightness, contrast as well

[worldly root]

stingers can kill people on direct impact right

[lost inlet]

no.

only damages them with 40 damge.

unless they're already low on health then yes, stinger can kills.

[timid wraith]

i did not expect hard mode to be this hard

they just dont react at all until they actually die

[worldly root]

bro how come on relapse my AI are just so unbelieveable stupid

i do so good and then one just does something dumb and dies

[solemn patio]

Imagine if we could use the CAR-15

[rocky plover]

2 or 27 depending on range

[jolly verge]

2 or 27

[rocky plover]

Oh it's or?

[jolly verge]

27 up to 2m and only 2 after 2m

Yeah

[rocky plover]

Ah so it's pretty much always 2dmg unless right near them, then it's 27

Thought it can be like 12,17, etc.. depending how close

[jolly verge]

Yeah it's almost like pepper or 40m cs gas radius for max damage

[rocky plover]

Ah I see, but didn't know it's only 2 or 27 dmg thought it can be 2,3,4,5,6,27 etc... depending how close

[jolly verge]

Yeah there only 2 tracers for a stinger 2m with 25 dmg and 12m with 2 dmg

[solemn patio]

Me watching the dumbass suspect reach and fake surrender while my gun is in their face:

[rocky plover]

Ah good to know

Even though I despise stingers and actually never use them lol

[solemn patio]

“You dont understand I had to magdump him!”

[mystic palm]

Which weapon for each caliber is the best in ur opinion?

[rocky plover]

F90 5.56
Arn180 .300
Ga51 7.62
Usp45 .45
MPX 9mm
MP7 4.6

[fallen lagoon]

Best 5.7mm: P90.
Best 4.6mm: MP7
Best 10mm: MP5/10

Best .357: the Revolver.

Best .50 AE: Grizzly

[full shore]

Sr16 is the best

[rocky plover]

Lol you're mentioning calibers that only have 1 weapon

[fallen lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[solemn patio]

For 9mm its the SPC9, the fire rate is unmatched mate.

[solemn patio]

Yup yup.

[solemn patio]

Either that or the MK18

[haughty oriole]

Mp5 is peak I always underestimated it

for house cleaning it is probably the best thing to use

Short, fast and efficient. What else you need?

Mp7 is aight.

[fallen lagoon]

A rifle cartridge? In all seriousness I have no favorite, I just try out different kits to see what feels good

[haughty oriole]

Mk18 is also good

It is not that long

[fallen lagoon]

And the joke was just supposed to be that all those guns are the only one with the caliber, but I forgot the FiveSeven is also in 5.7

[haughty oriole]

About the handguns... I barely switch to them anyways

I get like 2 reloads for them, 7-8 for main

Actually 1 reload for handgun

They are just useless against the later enemies

They can work for ty come again then the party is over

[desert vapor]

Please tell me there is a way to find civilians fast after neutralizing all suspects. I swear I spend more time searching for civilians then playing the game. I love this game but searching for civilians genuinely makes it so much more unfunn

[late prism]

Just keep yelling they will sometimes respond to you just yelling.

[desert vapor]

Bro is swear i was looking 20 minutes for a civie on leviathan and I'm pretty sure I made judge rupture his vocal cords

There is the search and secure command but the bots sometimes just walk past civilians

[gritty nova]

What???

7-8 mags?

[haughty oriole]

yep

you never know

When I'm playing hard at least

[tired jungle]

It doesn't really.. get you anything

[solemn patio]

It gets more dakka man.

[tired jungle]

What the fuck does that even mean

[solemn patio]

Yknow how a machine gun goes DAKAKAKAKKAKAKAA

Its more daka daka daka

[tired jungle]

it just goes fken brrrrrt

Anyway the high fire rate smgs have a fucking awful ammo economy

[solemn patio]

Bursts.

[tired jungle]

You need an awful lot of hits because 9mm sucks

You can get like what, maybe 3 suspects for a mag

[solemn patio]

I also like the irons,

Honestly I never run optics on the MPX or SPC9

[solemn patio]

Semi auto headshots (im joking.)

[rocky plover]

Too much that it's not too reliable especially at range

Even ammo economy

[gritty nova]

I haven't played hard yet so

What can I say

But I literally take 3 mags and it's enough

The only time I had low ammo but didnt in fact run out of it was today with a smg

Rifles are so much more ammo efficient

[stone bay]

FINALLY! I completed Elephant! No officers dead. Both bombs defused, all suspects KIA or arrested, all civilians secured

[rocky plover]

True I like taking 4 for realism along with 2 for secondary

[haughty oriole]

You don't wanna expose yourself too much at hard, when I'm getting shot at on hard I shoot through the walls

so yeah considering I don't have x ray eyes it usually takes at least half a mag in that situation

If there's a civilian... Hey oh.

[solemn patio]

I like to take what looks good

[rocky plover]

Such as?

[gritty nova]

I do the same

Although for revolver 2 isn't much

But the revolver is useless in my experience

MkV is just a better version of it

[rocky plover]

Yeah Mkv made it redundant i feel like

[gritty nova]

Both have a heavy impact but MkV feels like it has heavier

Both have higher recoil than usual

[tired jungle]

mkv is stupid, it shouldn't be in the game

[gritty nova]

But revolver deals less damage I think, and it's somehow harder to aim with it

[rocky plover]

Yea armor wise revolver only is for L2 while Mkv is for L3

[gritty nova]

Why?

[rocky plover]

And even so Mkv is still usable for L4

Doesn't fit the game kinda

[tired jungle]

6 🦅 🇺🇸

[tired jungle]

Doesn't fit the game at all. It's a super unrealistic weapon to be using

[rocky plover]

6 for primary?

Yea for cops true

[tired jungle]

6 for primary, standard military issue

[gritty nova]

I don't know how does it not fit the game?? It's like a deagle

It's just a gun

But a heavy and hard hitting one

[rocky plover]

All on plate carrier? What about on belt?

[rocky plover]

It's not something that is used by cops

[haughty oriole]

The only time I used the revolver was during the Los locos tunnels for the achievement... Never used it again

[rocky plover]

Yea but some specialized units take just 4 and 1 in the gun

[gritty nova]

Aren't we SWAT

[tired jungle]

The grizzly is a stupid ass pistol with a stupid ass cartridge that no one would actually use

[stone bay]

Now I just have to go through relapse again without mag dumping the main guy i'm supposed to take into custody

[gritty nova]

Or is SWAT considered police too

[rocky plover]

It is

[cursive minnow]

SWAT is just a term for a police tactical unit.

[tired jungle]

Well i mean fuck it, it's your gear place them where you want

[rocky plover]

^

[gritty nova]

I would

[stone bay]

Special Weapons And Tactics

[gritty nova]

I couldn't believe it when I first learned that SWAT just means Special Weapons And Tactics

[rocky plover]

Ye obviously but usually it's either 4 mags and 1 in gun or 6 mags and 1 in gun I think

[tired jungle]

5+1

[haughty oriole]

Surely the revolver fits more than whatever the mkv is tho

[rocky plover]

How would you place them in your opinion?

If 4+1 in gun, 3 on plate carrier, 1 on belt
If 6+1 in gun, 6 on plate carrier

What about 5+1?

[rocky plover]

Ye especially with snub nose, even though it becomes worse but it fits the older police era

[tired jungle]

4 on plate carrier and 1-2 on the belt. It really just has to do with how much other shit you need on your carrier. I don't like dual mag pouches because they're chunky but sometimes the necessary evil to save space

[solemn patio]

Its funny.

[haughty oriole]

Yet If i have the chance to take a semiautomatic I'll go for the semiautomatic. No point in handicapping yourself.

[rocky plover]

Ye same I hate dual mag pouches, because even going prone make it harder

That's why I like 4+1, 3 on carrier 1 on belt

[solemn patio]

Man I just want an underbarrel grenade launcher.

40mm ouchy rounds

Or 40mm flashy rounds

[haughty oriole]

I'd like to use the ak47 for the lols

[solemn patio]

Same.

The short AK pisses me off

[haughty oriole]

Mods exist tho

[rocky plover]

How would you fit 4 on PC though, all next to each other, feels too wide compared to 3

[haughty oriole]

3 letter triads would be a great multiplayer map, what are these dudes waiting for

[rocky plover]

On chest rigs maybe but plate carrier I don't know

[gritty nova]

Do we really need multiplayer

[solemn patio]

Imagine a new grenade launcher variant with 40mm foam rounds

[gritty nova]

I feel like more maps would be better than multiplayer

[tired jungle]

One of them to the side on a pouch or between the lining of the carrier. The ones we use have this pouch that is primarily meant for a map and notes but because you can stuff them elsewhere a mag fits as well. It isn't the fastest place to draw it from but you can always move mags to the chest pouches

[gritty nova]

I mean multiplayer pvp of course

[lofty ether]

Anybody wants to s rank 3 letter triad on Xbox

[haughty oriole]

no but it would help the replay value

[rocky plover]

Ah I see, forgot about that because I usually prefer to reserve that spot for either a radio or a flashbang/smoke

[haughty oriole]

I mean i have a lot of hours in this game but multiplayer would give me a reason to play even more

Also man Ron is what siege should have been

[gritty nova]

-# How much

[haughty oriole]

It would destroy siege

[rocky plover]

But like you said personal preference

[haughty oriole]

368

No wait

[gritty nova]

-# that's indeed a lot

[haughty oriole]

369*

For a game built the way it is rn yeah it's a lot

I like the game.

[tired jungle]

A good way i found to save space is putting tourniquets on the sleeve pouches of your shirt and pants

[solemn patio]

Imagine if they added the spas 12

[rocky plover]

I have 697 and still feel it's not a lot compared to some others lol

[solemn patio]

Itd be sexy

[rocky plover]

Yea good idea actually

[haughty oriole]

I'd say it's due to 50% the shooting, 30% the kickass OST and the remaining 20% to see how stupid some teammates can be

When the ost hits... It hits.

[rocky plover]

😂

[solemn patio]

Hide your tourniquet up your ass to save space /j

[haughty oriole]

I find myself often wishing someone dies so that I can hear the beat drop

Especially in valley of dolls and buy cheap buy twice

PEAK

[rocky plover]

[twin maple]

Frrr no survivors on that mission

[tired jungle]

Hmmm yes

[eager merlin]

has the brisa cove ost been updated

[solemn patio]

Problem when it gets stuck so maybe take laxatives

[tired jungle]

Dude