👮ron-discussion

[finite burrow]

Bruh

😭

[red swift]

its true 😭💔

[lost inlet]

There isn’t a weight system like in ground branch. Only armor can affects your acceleration.

[red swift]

i unironically have the femboy TOC mod installed 🥹

[white musk]

I return to this game after a couple of months and I find out throwing 3 canisters of CS gas into a room is the equivalent to throwing a wet napkin at them 💔

Somebody please reassure me and tell me this is a bug and is not a permanent change

[civic fiber]

aw too scared to actually play the gane

[white musk]

Nah I just really enjoyed the idea of using gas

Now I get slimed for even trying to use it

[civic fiber]

it has like a 3 meter radius now

[white musk]

COUGH useless

[civic fiber]

yeah basically

[white musk]

Gas spreads in the air it doesn’t sit stationary lmao

Seems dumb to me

[civic fiber]

i don’t know the exact numbers ok i just know it’s really bad

[white musk]

So I guess I should run flash bangs until they actually become somewhat usable again

[stone bay]

Gas use to be good, and actually viable.

It got nerfed into the ground and I've stopped using it, it's not viable at all now.

Feels less like it was done for fun or realism and more for balance, which is like... I don't know, I just don't care for it. Haven't found a mod to fix it yet.

[storm belfry]

said everyone.

I remember when I used gas and pepper balls seriously

[steel tide]

true that

[stone bay]

Yeah :(

Feels like RoN's potential was squashed and it could be amazing but it's just not living up to its potential. Been like that all through development. Stilla good game, even arguably a great one at times, but it's not as good as it could be.

[storm belfry]

it's in development hell

Cause the dev team is like the guys who made the L85 💀

RoN devs are just in a shed coding updates

[clear berry]

Is pvp going to be out in the near future?

[narrow geode]

No

[quasi coral]

Yep, like always

[onyx swift]

It’s crazy how they decided to intentionally nerf it, while making the Primary Launchers

The Flashbang one is simply super broken lol

Instant stun across the map if wanted, affects basically the whole room

CS Gas at least took a little bit of time to kick in fully

[surreal pelican]

Side note:

Listening to Final Countdown will get you and your squad out alive

[warped chasm]

why does my ron keep crashing on the voidinteractive thing

[prisma wyvern]

Crashed for the first time. Halfway through hide and seek on my Ironman run

[simple marsh]

They gotta update this game, Anytime within the next month would be epic.

[whole plume]

I concur on that

[polar sonnet]

Nah they won’t

[late prism]

Nah

[onyx swift]

I await SWAT AI fixes so badly

[prisma wyvern]

Guys I got the world achievement and the hermit achievement, but no watch. Anyone know what’s happening?

[late prism]

I'm not 100% sure as I haven't done it myself so I don't know all the achievements names but I think that needs the iron man achievement.

[prisma wyvern]

…that’s what those achievements are, Ironman is the mode you play for them. Also fellow diver

[hoary sorrel]

Dead game

[late prism]

Sure mate whatever you say

[late prism]

Yeah no idea mate then sorry, maybe it's just taking a moment to load? Not sure how to help, sorry.

[prisma wyvern]

No worries!

[echo sigil]

do i need to download same weapon mod if i want to use attachment expansion mod?

[prisma wyvern]

if any mods or anything could help I’d really appreciate it :)

[left reef]

I got B rank

[jolly verge]

One of your officers resigned

[prisma wyvern]

oh :(

[polar sonnet]

Trash about me

[warped chasm]

if i get a gun mod or vest mod and my friend dw to download can he see it?

[latent crescent]

no

it shows the default outfit for him

kinda sucks cause they dont get to see me dressed as john wick

[flat sparrow]

force them to download mods grrr

[latent crescent]

yes i wholeheartedly agree

[flat sparrow]

[surreal pelican]

Hear me out

Narcos is just Greased Palms but on steroids

[onyx swift]

interesting take

Narcos does have a ton of open space to get domed from, but I'd say Greased Palms is still worse, due to Suspects being able to shoot you through so many tight angles

[cedar mulch]

If the suspects' equipment were swapped between these two maps, I reckon the Post Office would become a proper challenge.

[onyx swift]

It already is one

Not many maps that top it overall, let alone if on Hard where you could get shot through tiny spaces between boxes very quickly

And those Suspects are often quick to go for Hostages, especially the FISA Agent

[surreal pelican]

Oh hell no

[surreal pelican]

For me Greased Palms you can kinda predict where enemies will be at and pre flash them with flashbang but for narcos..

You'll go in blind and your plans will be screwed one way or another

[vivid widget]

do you guys use dlss?
not the frame generation just the normal dlss

[soft nymph]

doing solo missions really highlighted the importance of teammates to me

hoo boy

[tacit gull]

DLAA can look pretty good but otherwise it just smudges up the game

[jolly verge]

Still better than TSR and it's not that GPU heavy

[vivid widget]

usually ran at 60-70 fps but it would drop to 40-50 in some areas, trying dlss quality and it seems like it's fine? 90-100+ now

[buoyant falcon]

Is something new in update for the game today Or its fix for bugs?

[tacit gull]

no

[cedar mulch]

e

[heady spade]

Game still using AI assets. Glad to see the attention hasn't made devs better people

Actual bum developers

[marsh lark]

You are talking about a bunch of posters on one mission no one places any attention to, furthermore there are more persistent issues than a bunch of random posters.

It was said, it is a placeholder asset. But they have other concerns.

[tacit gull]

It's definetly not just the one mission and people definetly DO pay attention to them

[marsh lark]

What other missions, because I only know of 23 megabytes

[tacit gull]

Mainly yacht comes to mind

[marsh lark]

I honestly don't even know yacht has any posters

Where are they?

[tacit gull]

It has a big fuckoff painting that's very clearly ai generated and is particularly hard to miss

[marsh lark]

Interesting

Still, I think there are more superceding issues than that. The reason it sparks an outrage now even more than before is because everyone is pissed at AI and whenever that word is used, or whenever it is used for anything at all, people start losing their minds over it.

[surreal pelican]

That

Anyways, what are your favourite rifles in game?

[marsh lark]

SR-16

ARN-180

[surreal pelican]

[marsh lark]

PDW

[surreal pelican]

I just started using the SR-16 a day back, feels like the ARN

[marsh lark]

They have very similar recoils, but I think the SR-16 is slightly more controllable

[surreal pelican]

And yet I still die on Narcos a lot

[marsh lark]

I hate Narcos

[idle thunder]

I want them to add scenario of suspect hijacking a police station. There is a video about it on youtube and it is hilarious

[tacit gull]

A lot of said issues haven't been fixed and have actually gotten worse past multiple updates , the reason it sparks outrage is 1. If they truly are placeholder (they're not) the game has been out for years and basic art assets haven't been made for both the base game AND the DLCS which they are asking money for
2. They look extremely jarring and particularly stand out especially when you contrast them with the actual drawn art in the game, there is no justification for it no matter what the ex CM tried to claim

[surreal pelican]

Yea, idk if it's me or what but the GA416 is very very bouncy

[surreal pelican]

I may like Greased Palms, but fuck Narcos

Fuck the pendejos with their beta C mags

[idle thunder]

Narcos and Lawmaker on hard mode are easy

[surreal pelican]

Lawmaker yes but hell nah narcos

[marsh lark]

I guess. I'm not going to discuss it really, because I simply don't care about it. I know only of the 23 megabytes which I pay no attention to anyways because I don't look on the walls. And despite playing yacht multiple times I have never noticed it. All in all I don't care for AI, I disagree with it being used for creative direction, but I am also not going to create a fight with developers if it is used minimally where it has almost no consequences.

People started throwing a fit over the AI generated images for the killcount unlocks or achievements in COD multiplayer, to that I say it's whatever. Something you might look at once or twice and then forget it exists, so even there I am not sharing the view of the players.

I can share their view on how terrible the story is, but I think that these small achievements you have to look very closely at to see it is just nit picking. But again, I am me, and everybody else is themselves individually.

[lost inlet]

ARN-180.

[surreal pelican]

Solid pick too, brother

[echo sigil]

do i need to verify files to use mods?

[marsh lark]

no

[surreal pelican]

I like the ARN-180 and SR-16 as well

[surreal pelican]

As much as I want to use the GA416, I just find it bouncy af

[lost inlet]

SR-16 got the biggest glow up fr.

going from second worst rifle to one of the top pick for 5.56 category.

[surreal pelican]

Indeed

Funny question, do any of y'all use AP for 5.56

Or do you guys just ball with it and embrace the stagger

[jolly verge]

You have to use AP with 5.56 on most missions, that why any other rifle caliber is better

[tawdry knoll]

Is the game still updated ? Like new expansion or something ?

[summer sequoia]

[tropic siren]

AI teammates realizing they have free will (theyre gonna magdump a suspect with a MK V)

[wind gyro]

game update what

i refuse to believe that the game got a bug fix

[tacit gull]

nope

[wind gyro]

good

im gonna download fishing planet again instead of playing ron

[prisma tusk]

There's an upcoming update yeah.

[tawdry knoll]

Nice ! Thanls for the message

[ruby tree]

Like when is the update voor ready or not

[next shard]

Idfk

[wind gyro]

this year

[next shard]

So it can be released december 31

[wind gyro]

no

boid doesnt work at that time

[next shard]

Ok good bc i dont want to wait that long

[wind gyro]

it sould be

[next shard]

Yay

[bitter mason]

I swear whenever this next update comes out, it better be meaty

[oblique palm]

How update deprived are y'all

[bitter mason]

quite

and if this next update is "haha look multiplayer yeey" I wont be too happy, singleplayer is still a mess as is

[oblique palm]

Unfortunately I deleted the game not even 2 months after it coming out on console, spent $70💔

The base game didn't have (in my opinion) enough replay ability for me to continue

[bitter mason]

thats fair

I've not found the replay value an issue I just find the game to not really live up to what I was expecting

[tacit gull]

what if the update is the attachments and literally nothing else

[bitter mason]

I'd honestly

idk what I'd do

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

you'd buy the next dlc, right?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[bitter mason]

if they fix the game yes

[high lynx]

i came here for the sole purpose of venting my hatred of voll's wife
worst civ in the game

rounded a corner and she decked me in the face

[tacit gull]

she gave you her free maxilarry adjustment course

[daring carbon]

im starting to think ron is dead

im getting no lobbies

[idle thunder]

Try with SWAT AI, you gonna enjoy it, 10/10 experience, absolutely zero problems, everything just works perfectly

[lunar glen]

are the ballistic mask bugged? i cant get mine off at all

[jolly verge]

Where do you trying to take it off exactly

[lunar glen]

at the lockers

[jolly verge]

Which loadout screen?

[lunar glen]

customizations

[jolly verge]

That the reason

[lunar glen]

oh wait im dumb

[minor depot]

After 7 months it better be, ron feels so incomplete still

[bitter mason]

fr

[hexed oriole]

I want another Cartel Mission

And another Left Behind mission

Like what if there was a mission raiding a drug lab that’s bigger and fancier than the one is Twisted Nerve

[flat sparrow]

breaking bad esque lab

[wind gyro]

how about no

[valid rover]

Does anyone know of any milsims that actually accept people instead of turning their noses up at someone who has a life of their own?

[wind gyro]

milsims as in groups?

[valid rover]

Yes

[wind gyro]

tbh idk any

[valid rover]

All I want is one game where someone else actually has a tolerable milsim I can join while having a life of my own instead of having to create my own. I've combed several and none actually accept people enough to get a semi-substantial member count.

[wind gyro]

youre talking about #📌unit-promo or overall milsim

[valid rover]

It's now to the point where I have to run about thirteen

[wind gyro]

im confused a bit

[valid rover]

Both

[wind gyro]

dang

[chilly thorn]

singleplayers main issue right now is the really strange swat ai, other then that its 10x less of a mess then multiplayer

[wind gyro]

the ai has been ass for years tbh

[chilly thorn]

Swat ai was pretty fucking good pre LSS

and now they are like clipping through each other and their grenade throws fall through the map

[wind gyro]

it hasnt changed tbh

[chilly thorn]

Have you played the game in pre LSS man?

[wind gyro]

yes

[chilly thorn]

Like sure the current swat ai is better then like adam

but 1.0-Dark waters they were practically terminators

Now they are somehow even dumber then the swat 4 companions

[wind gyro]

they ai is just not ready

[sleek flame]

im still mad about the censorship from lss 😭

[bitter mason]

Definitely a lot more than that I'd say but swat AI is up there as like the number one issue
suspect AI is still much to be desired, lacking proper depth and variety,
other stuff is just the story elements dont feel fleshed out or finished, generic voice lines for evidence reports for example, missing characters in levels, briefings being weirdly written or not lining up with the actual mission (not the case of briefings intentionally being inaccurate)

[wind gyro]

i couldnt care less

you just download a mod

[sleek flame]

havent played since lss lmaowhat mod?

[chilly thorn]

Still this could all be said for multiplayer as well

[wind gyro]

literally days after release our lovely mr eman created uncensored or not

[lunar glen]

ive done everything and nothing will unlocked after leathel obsession guys

[wind gyro]

THE mr eman

[sleek flame]

what a blessing

[chilly thorn]

The uncensored mod is basically a patch at this point

im pretty sure the devs told you to just go install it

[sleek flame]

fairs

[wind gyro]

the only thing missing that you would notice is the girl on twisted nerve

[sleek flame]

yeah idc abt that bit

[chilly thorn]

The Narcos informant is heavily nerfed in the censored version

Its such a shocking sight in the original map and completely shifts the tone

[sleek flame]

can someone send me the link for mod?

[sleek flame]

thats what made the game so good and raw

[bitter mason]

I will say the shipping crate people do look a bit odd with the underwear they have, it looks out of place on them, they could have definitely done a better job with that particular censorship

[wind gyro]

tbh download it via mod.io

[chilly thorn]

bro talm bout the game like its a man

[wind gyro]

its "better" than the one on nexus as nexus limited it a bit

[sleek flame]

you what mate

[wind gyro]

fuck i gotta log into nexus

[chilly thorn]

Yeah for sure.

[sleek flame]

alright thank you

[chilly thorn]

what do you even lose in the nexus version

[wind gyro]

idk tbh

[lunar glen]

so hwat should i do.

[chilly thorn]

because I use the nexus version and its completely the same

[jolly verge]

What not unlocked?

[wind gyro]

but nexus did put a new rule on adult content and something was done on the uncensored or not mod

[lunar glen]

on the ready or not missions nothing after lethal obsession is unlocking

[jolly verge]

[lunar glen]

all my missions are A or higher and ive done all the soft objectives

[jolly verge]

If next mission did not unlock then replay it again

[lunar glen]

i have 3 times now...

[jolly verge]

Do you keep dying?

[chilly thorn]

Remember how swat 4 wouldn't let you go to the next mission unless you get a B rank or above on hard, we should bring that back.

[lunar glen]

no ive passed every time with a A+

[jolly verge]

Does not matter what grade you got. In what mode exactly you playing?

[lunar glen]

its for single player and quick play

right now im in commander

[jolly verge]

You can't unlock missions in Commander by playing Quick play just in case

Replay it in different mode, restart the game idk, the only way next mission won't unlock is if you died

[simple dirge]

...just S Ranked Greased Palms at the second tentative (that upstair office found me out of ammo and ideas in the first try).
Quite a ride, but now I understand all the "difficulty" I've found the first time I played it 10 times this summer trying to finish it at any cost (letahal)...I was just a rookie. I really don’t think is the hardest map, for me: carriers of the vine was pure hell. The reason I am scared of S Ranking it…

[flint snow]

anyone know if theres a update or something coming to ron soon?

[wind gyro]

@finite burrow thats more of a feedback than a bug tbh

[flint snow]

swear sometimes it feels like the devs are jus bored of their own game

[finite burrow]

oh i didn't know lol

i mean like it looks very low quality

[wind gyro]

thats just how void works

they are considered an indie studio i guess

[flint snow]

yeah ik, been 2 years sice iv started playing. just annoying having very few updates on a game you like

since*

[wind gyro]

you can only wish that void had a miracle in hiring devs and became a massive studio

oh and a community manager

[flint snow]

they have so much potential to become a big company too. They just gotta lock in

[wind gyro]

if there was so many devs for them to hire

they have A LOT of money

[flint snow]

i feel like if they'd release a new map every 1 or 2 months. thats already a BIG improvement

there manny map creators that would be willing to work for a small pay too

this video is 100 facts https://youtu.be/AlotTr-0ZVQ?si=hAnmcDd43f3xM-77

[cedar mulch]

reality, cartel laboratories are actually rather rudimentary.

[prisma wyvern]

How do I keep officers content? Using non lethal, right?

[storm belfry]

Capture Targets Alive, they'll be happy, kill everyone, they'll get big sad

[prisma wyvern]

I wonder if this person plays zzz

[storm belfry]

I wonder

(I used to)

[spare depot]

I have been yellin' at this civilian for 5 minutes straight, refuses to surrender.

[storm belfry]

Punch em

[spare depot]

I already tried non-lethal.........

[storm belfry]

Hmmmm, punch them again

[spare depot]

I already gave them several bruises.

I already gave them the equivalent to the Senator Armstrong treatment.

[storm belfry]

MOREEEEE

[spare depot]

And i died.

Oh and that civilian was acting so unphased when he is wearing a literal explosive

[storm belfry]

I wonder if anyone notices my name being "Lethal Non-Lethal"

[storm belfry]

well

[fading hemlock]

In my opinion the Swat 99 setup looks best

[lost inlet]

Ok.

[lost inlet]

Pretty sure they stopped reading after seeing the “Zhu Yuan” part.

[tacit gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850538378058661925/1200627819944869958/ezgif-1-4b68b7fce6.gif

[storm belfry]

lol

[dark patrol]

Explain to me how when I launch in safe mode my buddy still is told cannot join a modded lobby

[crude sky]

hypothetically what do u do when the suspect body blocks u and u cant melee or bring ur gun back down HYPOTHETICALLY (i dont have a recurring issue of this )

[surreal pelican]

Late reply but just shoot them in the foot

[cobalt raven]

Or smack them with your gun

[onyx swift]

I thought it meant you’d normally play with both tactics regularity

[surreal pelican]

Nah sometimes they bugged outright refuse to comply lol

So I just shoot them in the foot to incap em, or just straight up reset if I'm doing non lethal

[storm belfry]

Nah, I use the beanbag like a DMR

[onyx swift]

Pray for a teammate, or walk back then Bash/Shoot if maybe an option

[cobalt raven]

I need to know why these suspects are tanking AP rounds and somehow you shooting them in the foot incapacitates them

[storm belfry]

I've dropped multiple suspects with 12g beanbags

[onyx swift]

realistic

Beanbags can absolutely HURT

[surreal pelican]

I use JHP

But for AP I just aim centre mass, should put them down in 2 shots for 5.56 or 300

[onyx swift]

That’s what I do, but in general

[cobalt raven]

I used to do half and half

[onyx swift]

JHP or AP, aim for the CoM until the Suspect staggers or drops

As long as they aim/fire at you

If they don’t raise their gun yet, they get one chance to not try anything

[crude sky]

thanks

if they body block into a wall its basically gg

[cobalt raven]

Off topic, a civilian in narcos genuinely scared the nervous system out of me

[crude sky]

[onyx swift]

If you’re being Knifed though?

Have a teammate who thinks fast, or it’s likely so over

[cobalt raven]

Had one of these guys immediately surrender when they saw a red laser pointed at their chest

[crude sky]

its always the civilians i swear they like to just appear out of nowhere

[cobalt raven]

Mb twn

[crude sky]

what was that LMAO

[cobalt raven]

This npc bursted the door open right as i was about to go in and scared me so bad

Npc is lucky i didnt have a trigger finger

[simple fossil]

[jaunty jacinth]

do the devs still have more plans for this game. is there a roadmap

[round dirge]

anyone know how to fix crashing loading into the game need help asap

[jaunty jacinth]

did you turn off your mods

[round dirge]

how i do that?

[dapper zinc]

Im so damn happy I just got the hermit achievement

What are these hidden achievements I have to unlock next 😔

[jaunty jacinth]

find your ReadyOrNot file. go Content > Paks, delete any mod pak files. then click mod.io > 3791 > mods, and delete anything in this folder

[dapper zinc]

Didn’t know ready or not had mods

[jaunty jacinth]

yes many

[dapper zinc]

Are there any sick ones

[round dirge]

check screenshots and art xela

[jaunty jacinth]

nothing there

[jaunty jacinth]

take a look

[surreal pelican]

I can send it on your DMs to prevent spoilers for others who don't wanna see it lol

[smoky sand]

your friend probably has mods installed

usually how that goes

just turn off checksum

[dark patrol]

He on console how do you turn off chdcksum

[heady fulcrum]

gang when is this upd coming out

[high lynx]

chat real talk
high ready or low ready

[surreal pelican]

Low ready, better view

[quasi coral]

High ready, looks cooler and more tactical

[high lynx]

"its got a better view" okay but i get a cooler view of my magnum with high so

[quasi coral]

What I'm saying, Kateo you have to join the COC(Cag operator club)

[lost inlet]

low ready cause i can tell when i'm in low ready or up against the wall with my guns locked.

[vivid widget]

i thought you could alternate between the two on the fly
guess not

[frigid zealot]

Hey guys,just bought R.O.N, any tips on how I should run it?, never played it before so pretty excited to play it

[vital citrus]

Currently on valley of the dolls

[cedar mulch]

To be honest, many players on Reddit would like to see the sprint animation return, as some quests aren't exactly sluggish.

[surreal pelican]

Soon..

I tried it before high ready

[surreal pelican]

[lost inlet]

[surreal pelican]

I like the extra visibility with low ready

[lost inlet]

and that too.

[quasi coral]

Just think things through, be careful and don't move as fast as possible, play slowly. You'll get the hang of it. You can watch RoN tips and tricks videos as well!(I liked Isaac Morgans one)

If you're REALLY serious, then you can go watch videos on general close quarters battles tactics, practice them and then become a super epic SOF operator

[gaunt ridge]

Hey when I try to edit the map on the tablet thing before a mission, i don't know the commands on how to switch the colours for icons, add entry points, or draw, is this a bug?

[cedar mulch]

Could Ron's melee attacks be changed to boxing or using the butt of his gun to strike opponents? I reckon that would be much better.

How can SWAT's close-quarters combat be inferior to that of the suspects? This is peculiar.

[unborn elbow]

is there a way i can reduce injury recoil debuff or immediately heal?

[jolly verge]

Stopping the bleed clears arm injury debuff

[royal gulch]

I’m trying to S tier valley of the dolls and I got this soft complete thing. Am I missing anything I should report?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[royal gulch]

Yeah but what? I cant find anything?

[jolly verge]

More likely soft objectives or evidence (guns on the floor)

[royal gulch]

Maybe? Been going through arrested suspects for a while now and I think I have all soft objectives.

[jolly verge]

There are tapes and images of minors. If you got these you missing only guns then

Or you did not report someone

[royal gulch]

Yeah I got that from the basement and master bedroom. I also got the destroyed hard drives.

[royal gulch]

I’ll go look around.

[jolly verge]

Just order swat ai to search and secure if you did not yet

[royal gulch]

Oh yeah thanks

Man still nothing.

I’m praying that some random gun hasn’t glitched into the ground.

I’ll just press soft complete and try again.

I had a civi somewhere….

[bold meadow]

Hey I was playing twisted nerve I hit the first house you run into, cleared everything nonlethal too, then I went up cleared everything too then I go to the next building and see a guy running to the 1st floor of the 1st on I go after him and then I see two civis chilling how??

[royal gulch]

So you cleared a house but then when you went back there were people?

[bold meadow]

Yeah

I searched everything twice the first time

[royal gulch]

Ig it was just some civilians that ran in there.

[bold meadow]

Nah the guy i saw running was a suspect which one I arrested after going down but then I suddenly saw two civilians chilling

[jolly verge]

Civilians/suspects can hide under beds or in closets in this mission

Or just roaming around

[bold meadow]

Didn't expect that actually

[jolly verge]

Use wedges in this case

[royal gulch]

That’s what I thought too.

[bold meadow]

I didn't mess with the mission I got it S either way but I just thought it was strange

[idle thunder]

Imagine active shooter scenario in a shopping centre with some civilians carrying a gun trying to stop the shooters and you as SWAT have to determine who are the suspects - that would be a good map for me

But only for like first playtrough though

[urban garnet]

in 2004 in Russia, Beslan, there was a terrorist siege at a school, due to the peculiarities of the region, almost every resident of the city had his own kalashnikov, it was difficult for the special forces to work in such conditions

[cedar mulch]

Will the Spider and Los Locos reappear later? Their storyline abruptly ends, suggesting a rather abrupt conclusion.🤔

[valid current]

greased palms on hard mode is like a breakpoint before the storm

i already spent ~3 days on this map 😭

[idle thunder]

Yeah, the problem is that the AI sees you through the smallest spaces between the boxes and once it locates you it sprays you

[prisma goblet]

Use the shield

And a lot of pepper balls for your pistol

Then give your team the stun launcher

[steel tide]

greased palms is easy compared to neon tomb

[surreal pelican]

Neon Tomb is easier imo

Only part is the people with the vests

[wind gyro]

neon tomb aint hard

[steel tide]

i think its bc of the mods i have, bc they either just hold a corner or swing a dorway and one tap you

[surreal pelican]

Music makes me want to wipe out Quadamah

[surreal pelican]

[steel tide]

and the new graphics make it impossible to see anything, since there is awful contrast and everything looks foggy

[wind gyro]

me when i lie

[steel tide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1m0yqlg/graphics_got_worse/
here are some screenshots from neon tomb

[wind gyro]

i dont see any difference

[steel tide]

ight bro

[surreal pelican]

I joined too late..

[wind gyro]

no joke i see nothing wrong in that picture

even tho i actually played more pre lss than post lss

[marsh lark]

Visibility in Neon Tomb was always bad, I guess I can see the fog a little bit, but it does not help that both screenshots have different graphic settings

[slender jungle]

How do I s rank relapse bro this is insane

[jolly verge]

M32A1

[wind gyro]

✅

[prisma goblet]

Prays

[urban comet]

Play it for 10 hours

[storm belfry]

Flash Bangs, Flash Grenades, Hopes and Prayers, selling your soul, maybe you'll need to unlock the 26th hour of the day even.

[slender jungle]

Literally lmao

[flat tiger]

whats the best non-lethal loadout? Is it the beanbag shotgun or the rifle one?

[wind gyro]

none, launcher

[flat tiger]

which one?

[wind gyro]

M32A1

[flat tiger]

I dont remember that being a launcher, do you mean the like gas or flashbang ones?

[wind gyro]

flashbang

[flat tiger]

that take up your primary slot?

[wind gyro]

yes

[flat tiger]

really?

[wind gyro]

yes

[flat tiger]

huh

[narrow geode]

woa

[slender jungle]

the flash launcher is better or stinger?

[wind gyro]

flash

stinger is ass tbh

[slender jungle]

100%

[heady wadi]

Still need a hand?

[slender jungle]

Yes pls

[heady wadi]

Stinger affects you with goggles or not, flash affects you barely if you have goggles

[heady wadi]

Alright I’ll hop on give me a minute

[slender jungle]

Bet same

[wind gyro]

you use goggles none the less

[heady wadi]

Depends, could be using gas mask or you get those people running no helmet and only glasses

[wind gyro]

why would you use a gas mask\

[heady wadi]

Then they’re surprised that they get one shotted

[wind gyro]

gas was nerfed to the ground

its useless now

[heady wadi]

So pepper balls don’t slow you or make your vision red if your teams using it

[wind gyro]

why would you use pepper balls

[heady wadi]

🤦‍♂️

[slender jungle]

Lolll

[wind gyro]

the only thing you should be using is flashes

[heady wadi]

Not every human being plays the game the same way lol, I prefer flashes, some people prefer beanbag, some prefer pepper ball

[wind gyro]

pepper ball is only for those who want to suffer

beanbag is for these who dont have the launchers

[heady wadi]

Some people enjoy suffering

[wind gyro]

i know

[fringe halo]

Yo can someone give me a good weapon option with stopping power

[modern perch]

Sa-58 trust me

[fringe halo]

Tried that and it got me killed on the hide and seek mission

I want one that’s excellent long range too

[modern perch]

Use heavy Armour and ballistic mask thats what I used

[modern perch]

Sr-16 is good

[wind gyro]

use a 7.62 if you want

[slender jungle]

Lmk when you’re on

[heady wadi]

Loading on rn

[jolly verge]

It's only removes white screen, speed penalty and suppression still affect you

[heady wadi]

A lot better than not being able to see

[flat sparrow]

G3A3 with AP

[modern perch]

Guys I finished the main story what dlc do I do rn

[wind gyro]

ap

[wind gyro]

home invasion then dark waters

[flat sparrow]

What

[wind gyro]

ap is needed in only 3 missions

for example higher stagger chance, one less shot to incap so you one tap the suspects in the body

[misty island]

Why the suspect crawl away from me when I call them?

[wind gyro]

because they are fleeing?

[flat sparrow]

No

[misty island]

On the knees, when I call them to me they just do the opposite.

[flat sparrow]

Ill blast every suspect with ap

[wind gyro]

do you really need me to prove you

[flat sparrow]

Point blank range with a g3

[wind gyro]

i like a higher stagger chance man

[flat sparrow]

Nope

[wind gyro]

ap is for poop heads

jhp is for real gamers

[flat sparrow]

Womp womp

[wind gyro]

youre a poopy head

[slender jungle]

Anyone got the primary launcher and want to help me s rank

[wind gyro]

#🔎looking-for-players

[slender jungle]

No

[wind gyro]

yes

[surreal pelican]

This is the way

Unless you're running 5.56 and is sick and tired of L3 enemies lol

[jolly verge]

There is no point to use AP over JHP on 23/26 missions unless you using 5.56 🤮

[flat sparrow]

It doesn’t matter to me

[jolly verge]

[drowsy chasm]

Yo im ngl Ron should rlly add a jam mechanic and you have to rack the slide and unjam the gun sometimes

[cobalt raven]

I feel like this would be a mod

Instead of being added

[drowsy chasm]

Prolly 😭

[next shard]

Yeah thats a good idea but it will be annoying sometimes

[drowsy chasm]

I’m on console tho so I don’t got tha gift of mods 🫩

[cobalt raven]

💔

Mods are so peak

[drowsy chasm]

Ik 🫩 if it wasn’t for the random spawns I woulda been deleted the game

[cobalt raven]

Just get a laptop at least

[drowsy chasm]

I do have one not powerful enough

[cobalt raven]

You can literally replace your teammates with anime women

[drowsy chasm]

Only a 1650

[drowsy chasm]

Id replace em w ma boo 🫩

[cobalt raven]

Oh

Just get a 2080, my laptop uses one

It runs the game fine

[drowsy chasm]

What laptop u got?

Is it expensive?

[cobalt raven]

No

Its like about 600 bucks

[drowsy chasm]

Wait fr??? What’s the name of it

Cz bru I got a quest 3 for that much

[cobalt raven]

Msi cyborg 15 a12v

Its good for its price

[haughty sleet]

You know MSI stands for multiple serious issues as THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THATS EVER LIVED says

[cobalt raven]

I lowkey dont give a damn

[drowsy chasm]

Oh shi it’s only 900 for a 4080

That’s rlly good

[haughty sleet]

On a real note mate how much RAM did it come with and you gonna upgrade it in the future when the prices drop?

[drowsy chasm]

16gb

[haughty sleet]

Decent 32gb is the sweet spot in my opinion

[drowsy chasm]

I don’t think they could fit that on an affordable laptop

[haughty sleet]

Oh i agree i just mean that you as the owner upgrade it to 32gb

[drowsy chasm]

Oh I don’t own it yet. I needa save for it

My current laptop is a 1650 w 8 gb

It sucks

[haughty sleet]

It can atleast run this game right?

[drowsy chasm]

Nope all it can run is bo3

So all I have on it is bo3 w zombies mods

[haughty sleet]

Rough so how do you play this game then?

[drowsy chasm]

Console

[haughty sleet]

thought so

[drowsy chasm]

Yup tragic

[haughty sleet]

Do you not wanna build your own PC instead?

[drowsy chasm]

I want to but I don’t rlly have anywhere to put it. That’s why I want mainly a laptop

[haughty sleet]

Ye fair no space at all? Just saying because a PC will give you much better performance to the price and you can upgrade it over time

Laptops you are really only paying for the portabilty

[drowsy chasm]

Yea I got literally no where 🤣

Yea I get that. Can’t you upgrade a laptop to? Or no

[haughty sleet]

Ye but only specific parts like the RAM or the storage sice for most laptops the CPU and GPU are soldered to the motherboard

[drowsy chasm]

Ah ok

[haughty sleet]

They are good since i have a gaming laptop they are good if you move around alot and want something powerful for on the go

[drowsy chasm]

Yea that’s mainly me cz I’m goin to collage in a few months

[haughty sleet]

Makes sense i would suggest as well to get a laptop stand and get a decent one with alot of flexibilty in terms of postions you can put iot in helps with cooling and just making your setup nice

Also you probably know always play off of being plugged in with the charger better gaming performance

[drowsy chasm]

Wait really??? I always play w my laptop plugged in. I think it fucked the battery Cz it only lasts like 20 mins off the charger

[haughty sleet]

Rough on some laptops and my lenovo legion i can limit the charge capacity on the battery in order to protect it

[drowsy chasm]

Hm

Also, is this just a glitch on consoles or did ready or not get rid of the blood mist on impacts. Cz when I shoot someone nothing comes out of them

[haughty sleet]

Do you watch a guy called Jarrods Tech hes is a gaming laptop guru he gives you everything yopu need to know about gaming laptops and reviews all of them

[drowsy chasm]

Bet

[haughty sleet]

Have no idea

[drowsy chasm]

Oh ok

[frigid zealot]

Should I use the beanbag/pepper guns?

[wind gyro]

use launchers

[drowsy chasm]

Should I make 7.62 JHP?

[jolly verge]

Yes

Just not on Elephant, Sins of the Father or Leviathan

[drowsy chasm]

Ok

[wind gyro]

good decisions

[quaint tartan]

"Nooo guys we must secure all the hostage"
Same folks 2 hours after hawaian shirt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE03Lqm3nbI

[spark pecan]

Any news on updates?

[wind gyro]

as in

date, no

[jolly verge]

[spark pecan]

😂 jesus. I feel like Ron is abandonware at this point

[fossil linden]

has anyone else's game been struggling more with frames and lag after the last major update? Directx12 doesnt even work for me anymore and im consistently getting like 300 ping as well as a lot less frames than before it

[haughty sleet]

I only really get frame drops on leviathan or relapse my GPU usage drops like crazy

[fossil linden]

yeah like that used to happen to me as well before the update but now overall gameplay has been struggling for the longest time since

[wind gyro]

youre impatient tbh, void has been working on updates at this pace for 2 years id say

[spare arrow]

I'm on pc can I play with anyone ?

I'm also new

to this server

[narrow geode]

#🔎looking-for-players

[spare arrow]

Yo

I'm down

@narrow geode

[narrow geode]

I can't play right now

[spare arrow]

#🔎looking-for-players

Ah okay

[misty island]

Is the hanged man still bugged? Can we use G or not?

[misty island]

Always has been.

[vivid widget]

i've given my swat ai 2 flashes and 2 wedges each though now that i'm thinking about it this feels like a waste
i think only 1 wedge each is enough

[wind gyro]

me when i lie

[idle thunder]

Twisted nerve really twists my nerve

[jolly verge]

No? What G

[hollow jolt]

man i fuckin hate the spider

[hollow jolt]

i just beat it yesterday. i ate shit so many times 😭

sometimes i swear people were shooting me through the floor. on the first floor

[idle thunder]

Is there any chance getting A rank with officer down, or should i restart right away?

I am dead never mind

[north jay]

😭

[dense dragon]

why do people make public servers then proceed to kick anyone that join

[digital nest]

Is it possible to disable your teammates killing you so I can kill everyone

[marsh lark]

To my knowledge, no

[jolly verge]

With a mod only

[digital nest]

Oh ok thanks

Do yk what mod?

[jolly verge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4038

[digital nest]

TSM

TYSM

[misty island]

Grenade quick throw.

It used to fail the achievemnt if you throw a grenade using G.

[jolly verge]

Not a thing

It's does fail if you order swat ai use deploy command, but only stinger/gas

[chilly thorn]

although the flash launcher is "Objectively Better" The gas launcher is goated idc

[quaint tartan]

Okay guys

1. Can you place multiple C2s and detonate them at once?
2. Does the effect of gas grenades scale with concentration of said gas?

[surreal pelican]

1. Nah, unless you seperate your team AI and conduct separate breach, then I guess that's considered multiple C2 detonating at once

2. I don't think so

[surreal pelican]

For some certain maps with low suspect counts, yea I think

Assuming you're going full lethal

[tacit gull]

1.Yes
2. I don't think so

[young lichen]

YALL WTF IS THE ANAR STAIRCASE

[meager nova]

bro i keep getting cooked on hide and seek

[young lichen]

ngl its easy

but to a plus nah

[meager nova]

im js mad lost

its a huge ahhh map

[lost inlet]

something that no longer exists.

[wintry summit]

chat, are you ready, or not?

[vital citrus]

Ready but depressed

[lost inlet]

[amber dock]

hello

[meager nova]

hi sarge

[obsidian hedge]

I bought the dlcs on console how do I get the guns??

[knotty hatch]

Will there be more updates to this game, or is it pretty much done?

[tacit gull]

There will be further updates yes

[scarlet quartz]

When? Cause I'd like the servers to be tuned up. lmao

[tacit gull]

I doubt that's happening, but the update is said to come out in Q1

[knotty hatch]

I want to react to the comment with an emoji, but there's no option

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-silly-tongue-horse-tongue-horse-silly-gif-11018268193256850941

yep

[knotty hatch]

any idea if the next update is going to be free or is it another paid dlc?

[tacit gull]

EXTREMELY likely paid

[knotty hatch]

hmm... thank you.

ngl with all the drama about censorship last time it's going to be a hard sell for me personally

[sage oyster]

I just wanted to ask. What is up with people shooting others in this game now. its like every other match, some dude decides to wipe out the whole team

[knotty hatch]

how long has it been happening?

[steel tide]

i think its wild the dlcs only have 3 levels when it should at least be 5

[inland pewter]

Been gone A few months is cs still bugged 🧐

[tacit gull]

yes

[jolly verge]

"Nerfed"

[chilly thorn]

its part of an old cut map i believe

[chilly thorn]

Even when its bugged its still lowkey the best grenade

[jolly verge]

It's literally does nothing atm

[inland pewter]

🤔 guess I'll test in solo, but last time I threw one A guy picked it up using it as cologne

[jolly verge]

Except maybe vision block but that it

[chilly thorn]

It stops suspects from moving or doing anything when they are on their knees

and a lot of suspects are really gunho when it comes to pulling out their guns

[tacit gull]

Gas is literally the ONLY grenade that cant stop suspects from moving

[chilly thorn]

Did I not say on their knees

[tacit gull]

Aswell as if you're really worried about suspects moving you can just break their ai with the good arrest cancel feature

[chilly thorn]

Thats cheating the game

I dont do that baby stuff :3

[tacit gull]

That's using the working feature as intended

[jolly verge]

There is no point to use gas grenade only for already surrendered suspects

[chilly thorn]

It can effectly stop them from trying shit, not only that gas is just fun in general.

[inland pewter]

If they surrendered idk having lethal cover seems way better than using A slot

[chilly thorn]

I like hotboxing a room filled with dudes

and the cough dialouge is funny as fuck sounding most the time

[tacit gull]

You can just keep a taser ready tbh

[chilly thorn]

yeah but then if they try something they will get shot and die

and I tend to avoid suspect death

[jolly verge]

I mean if you using gas grenade to keep already surrendered suspects on their knees then you already using less-lethal gun, no?

[chilly thorn]

No

I only hurt people when absolutely necessary

thats kinda the point T~T

[jolly verge]

Which happens 99% of time when they are already alerted

[chilly thorn]

Then scare them into surrendering

[jolly verge]

Unless you in Commander mode with traits

[chilly thorn]

I haven't played commander since it came out lowk

[jolly verge]

You can't unless you zero their morale or when they out of ammo

[chilly thorn]

I usually bait them into wasting all their ammo

[jolly verge]

[chilly thorn]

or just hit them with a grenade

[jolly verge]

Flash/stinger, not gas?

[chilly thorn]

depends on the situation

I use all 3 though

sometimes I wish stingers were as fun as they were in swat 4 but bleh

They are definently the most boring grenade to use in RoN

[tacit gull]

If only they kept the swinging doors mechanic

[chilly thorn]

Yeah I don't see why they would cut that

It was probably some deep spaghetti code reason we will never know

[tacit gull]

I kinda wish you could see all the rubber balls bounce around and stay on the ground but now especially with the new optimizations that's never happening 😔

[chilly thorn]

I think the bullet casings disappearing is just a bug

[covert aurora]

Or mirrior reflections

[tacit gull]

I don't

see how it could be

They're all very clearly on a timer

[chilly thorn]

I mean think about all the other particles are bugged and on a timer even some of the decals are

Blood particles just straight up dont even appear

[tacit gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205760412507840572/1456093992856060126/image.gif

don't worry bro RTX is coming any day now

[chilly thorn]

I can lowk understand the whole mirror thing thats optimization hell for modern games

Thats why cyberpunk mirrors were the way they were

[tacit gull]

It's still kind of embarrassing to have all those mirrors in the game back from when they were originally planned

when mirrors come back it'll be the day ron becomes good LMAO

[covert aurora]

🤣

[chilly thorn]

RoN with RTX would probably look like dogshit

like most rtx games

[tacit gull]

The lighting is already overblown and foggy and the reflections already look like shit, i doubt it can go any lower

[chilly thorn]

Oh you haven't seen RTX games then

At least this game has fucking color

Look at foggy ass grey hl2 rtx

[tacit gull]

Well yeah that looks like dogshit but it's made by fans with RTX remix

RTX adds pretty nice reflections to RE2 remake

The lighting can get fucked up sometimes though

Especially on fire

[chilly thorn]

yeah at the cost of your computers life

[tacit gull]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I mean it ran fine for me

what DIDN'T run fine was cyberpunk

[jolly verge]

Textures being downsized from 4k to 512 as well

[chilly thorn]

Cyberpunk looks worse then rtx anyway lol

it gets rid of the artstyle for that "Shiny HyperReal" look and I hate it

[tacit gull]

I think the best thin RTX does is the reflections and thats it

[chilly thorn]

it makes everygame look like a fake GTA 6 leak

[tacit gull]

everything else is kind of just either A. ugly or B. way too intensive

[covert aurora]

This is why i graphics are abit lower on my expectitons list.

[chilly thorn]

RoN relflections ran like shit on most pcs correct?

I think I played them once and it destroyed me

[tacit gull]

Atleast for me they ran fine when they were in

game ran INFINITELY worse when UE5 hit

[chilly thorn]

yeah but narcos looked nice lol

I feel like Hide and Seek is probably the best looking map in the game

I 💜 piss filter when used correctly

[tacit gull]

I dont like it that much, i personally liked the weird greenish filter it had originally

[covert aurora]

This is why my opinion ue5 transition should of been done pre1.0

[chilly thorn]

it was blue originally

and then the second one which was grey

and then yellow

[tacit gull]

the blue one was bomb defusal

[chilly thorn]

No im talking about EARLY EARLY port

[tacit gull]

that's bomb defusal

[chilly thorn]

Like the one we never got to play

[tacit gull]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6782

[chilly thorn]

nah this isn't the one im thinking of

[tacit gull]

well it is blue

[chilly thorn]

ehh its more black then blue

[tacit gull]

and i really like it yeah

[chilly thorn]

I do think they should make a map with this vibe though the closest thing we have is dealership

[tacit gull]

RON used to have extremely stylised colors all over the place

[chilly thorn]

it still does wdym

[tacit gull]

it looked really cool

[chilly thorn]

look at fucking narcos

[tacit gull]

I disagree

[chilly thorn]

Show me a screenshot of the game looking colorless

[tacit gull]

I can go anywhere on relapse

[chilly thorn]

Relapse is cold and sterile thats the point its always looked like that

[tacit gull]

or in the dlc 2 station

yeah its always looked and ran like shit

[chilly thorn]

I mean they tried doing something with the dark rooms and stuff, but in a hospital enviroment its really hard to get creative with the lighting, The Morgue looked sick though

but you seriously can't play like any other map and tell me the game is colorless

[tacit gull]

3lt

[chilly thorn]

and that map looks fucking great wdym?

even if the lighting is a little too realistic imo

[tacit gull]

it does have a lot of detail but the lighting is still awful

[chilly thorn]

its still a beautiful map but I don't think it looks like RoN

also whats with Carriers getting yellower every update

back in 1.0 that shit basically had a grey filter

[tacit gull]

i dunno about that but carriers especially has always looked like someone found the fog slider on unreal

[chilly thorn]

well its a shit fucking map anyway so Idc lol

[tacit gull]

Its probably the most unfinished feeling map yeah

[chilly thorn]

Its always had my place as the worst RoN map. I don't get why people will argue im wrong.

Like at least greased palms has the music and its kinda fun.

(and doesn't have an AI art room)

[tacit gull]

tbh id probably put relapse lower just because of how much of a chore that map is to go through but carriers is definetly down there

[chilly thorn]

I could say the same about the Hospital map of swat 4 lol

God people don't talk about how much swat 4 dropped the ball with the later maps in the campaign

[tacit gull]

mfs be like "hide and seek is the game's final and hardest map" where they hit you with the every corner has a battle rifled terrorist beforehand and also its two wings of a hospital because fuck you

[chilly thorn]

Relapse is actually kinda easy it has the most cover out of the big maps

[tacit gull]

Are we talking the stetchkov syndicate included? Because i think every map from the expansion is pretty banger

[chilly thorn]

Nah the base campaign Stechkov is heat

[tacit gull]

i especially love the stories with kiril getting fucking carbombed and you find him a mess

[chilly thorn]

I just really feel like relapse can be put into the "Disapointing" selection with Streamer, Carriers and the Yacht

Like This is the follow up map to Neon Tomb?

[tacit gull]

yacht's gimmick is amazing on paper

except its executed like absolute dogshit

[chilly thorn]

The layout is pretty good but it doesn't fit the gimmick

Like if the yacht was either a small map with the gimmick or a normal map without it would've been fine

[tacit gull]

the main bad guy silently farting out a signal to all of his bad guys to kill everyone on board and the only person who can hear it is toc

[chilly thorn]

I'm pretty sure you can actually see him radio it in

[tacit gull]

nope, i've stared at him do it while yelling at him lmao

only indication was toc

[chilly thorn]

How does talk even know

[tacit gull]

i'm sure george m told him

[chilly thorn]

They should've done the swat 4 thing where you character is like "Oh shit theirs bombs here" or "Theres much more bodies then we expected"

Maybe someday T~T

[tacit gull]

nah bro instead we get prescott talking about fucking burgers

[cedar mulch]

Insurgency, Fallujah Six Days,RON, which game has the best weapon design?

[chilly thorn]

RoN, Best sounds, thats the most important part.

[tacit gull]

i'd take insurgency any day

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but that comes with the downside of playing insurgency to shoot the guns

[tacit gull]

hey man i enjoy me some insurgency

[chilly thorn]

Sandstorm missed the chance to add a different weapon selection for the insurgents

[tacit gull]

they do though

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but Swat 4 definently did better at making the situations feel more like they are actively going on but to be fair this is comparing a triple A studio to a group of modders I believe lol

[tacit gull]

insurgents actually outgun the security in sandstorm

their shit is super cheap and extremely effective

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but the weapons they chose are boring

Like no lee enfield? Seriously?

[storm belfry]

The IED drone of dispare

[tacit gull]

yeah security get better air strikes though

[cedar mulch]

I believe SCAR in Insurgency is superior to SCAR in RON

[chilly thorn]

Insurgency shoulda had the Scar L

[tacit gull]

the dogshit ass grease gun and the headass sterling be like

[chilly thorn]

The sterling is a Security gun for some reason

[tacit gull]

i guess its supposed to be ct side alternative to the grease gun but its just infinitely worse

[chilly thorn]

They shoulda gave the gunner class for the insurgents a ppsh

I was begging for an AA12 as well since release but nooooo

[tacit gull]

is the saiga 12 equivalent

[chilly thorn]

Its not full auto tho

[tacit gull]

to be honest it already seems busted enough as is

get my boy sicksnipes back from the grave to complain

[chilly thorn]

I wouldn't know since I only use a rusty mosin with only stripper clips and a deagle

[tacit gull]

bro is NOT letting people play sniper

what i really appreciated about insurgency guns is that they all offered very different kit making possibilities

[cedar mulch]

Is Fallujah Six of gameplay equivalent to the military version of RON? Or are there significant differences?

[tacit gull]

like yeah you COULD get a cheap m16 kitted out

but

you know

[chilly thorn]

Fallujah sucks

[tacit gull]

1200 round famas kinda gets you salivating

[chilly thorn]

I lowk just pick weapons based on looks in all games

[tacit gull]

insurgency did stuff like having certain guns transform your class

[chilly thorn]

thats why you'll never catch me using a bullpup in sandstorm

[tacit gull]

you could get an m1 garand and get grenade rifles

as the sniper

or you could just be rifleman as the gunner with an rpk

[chilly thorn]

I still think gunner shoulda gotten the AA12 as an option

[tacit gull]

maybe but it definetly wouldn't fit in with the rest of the gunner's kit

flashbang + full auto shotgun is basically free k/d

[chilly thorn]

I mean considering the fact that a sneeze could one shot you in insurgency I don't think it would be that bad

also Im still so confused as to why the security use IEDs but the insurgents use C4's

[tacit gull]

you'd be surprised how much shit you can tank even with no armor

[tacit gull]

they don't

[cedar mulch]

How about KS23?

[chilly thorn]

Did they finally fix it?

[hollow jolt]

How do i solve suspects NEVER surrendering

[tacit gull]

I don't think it ever happened

[hollow jolt]

I always gotta kill these fuckers

[chilly thorn]

when you destroyed weapon caches they would always use the opposite bomb you would expect

[tacit gull]

grenades or taser

[tacit gull]

because they're.... pulling it out of the cache?

[hollow jolt]

Brixely literaly killed himself which i mean. Welcomed but cmon man 😭

[tacit gull]

the enemy cache?

[chilly thorn]

ahh

I guess that makes sense

They really found the detonator in all that mess

[tacit gull]

if you're demo you can only take c4 as security or ied as insurgent

[chilly thorn]

He still does that lol

I thought they removed it for some reason

[tacit gull]

its just not as common

[chilly thorn]

even though that was like his thing

I only really see The Hand do it now

Man I really hope we see more of the Hand show up at some point they are so fucking cool

[tacit gull]

nah bro ecoterrorists with colored hair

[chilly thorn]

They looked cool on the Oil rig map but the Ones on Lawmaker didn't have much drip

[tacit gull]

who for some reason get suppressors

[chilly thorn]

I liked the guys in the bicycle helmets on lawmaker they looked sick

I think the ecoterrorist were a cool concept but it feels so absurdly outlandish too me

But I guess they were kinda just an excuse for the oil rig to exist so im not mad

[tacit gull]

I dont think they make any sense whatsoever

like yeah bro we're gonna bring paint to this guy's house

we're also gonna bring guns to shoot it up

what the fuck is the point of the paint

[chilly thorn]

vandalism

they weren't trying to kill the guy

[tacit gull]

yeah because paint > bulletholes

[chilly thorn]

Both >

they were trying to trash his house I doubt they cared which is more effective

[tacit gull]

yet they take hostages every other room

[hollow jolt]

You act as if wanting to shoot something makes all other things impossible

[chilly thorn]

Well they didn't expect cops so it quickly escalated in lethality

if you never arrived his house would've been trashed and they would prob just leave

[hollow jolt]

Like were dealing with criminals here. Perfect rationality isnt exactly the specialty

[chilly thorn]

I believe the only reason they became so radicalized in between that and the oil rig was their new leader who took over in like 2026 I believe being mad and using their concerns to make them go insane. That and the enviroment situation being much worse by 2027 which the map takes place.

[tacit gull]

that sounds

extremely lame

I'm sure the paint is supposed to tie in the hand since they also used yellow paint

[chilly thorn]

I mean if its lame you could say that like the MLO could've been at fault because SOMEONE had to give them the equipment but thats a stretch and the mlo is already involved with so much

[tacit gull]

Okay well

[chilly thorn]

The UPF also used black paint

[tacit gull]

VOID isn't really for subtlety

[chilly thorn]

It picks and chooses what to be subtle about

like the subplot on Brisa cove

[tacit gull]

Yeah that also feels extremely goofy and out of place

[chilly thorn]

who cares its a videogame lol

[hollow jolt]

Theres a subplot?

[tacit gull]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YGrmG6

anyway

really subtle

[chilly thorn]

these are work and progress logos that weren't used

so whats your point? Your mad at the artist making mistakes?

[tacit gull]

what? mistakes?

[chilly thorn]

These weren't used, probably cause they are so on the nose, so what is your point complaining that they are not subtle, they clearly knew that and thats why they didn't use them

[chilly thorn]

theres a little actively unfolding divorce going on in the back

[tacit gull]

I mean they've also been publically shared, something they really didn't have to do

[chilly thorn]

I think its cool to share concept art

[tacit gull]

I'm more mad that the storytelling and environments and the overarching story all feel pretty forced, extremely on the nose and at the same time not really interesting

[chilly thorn]

I mean the only time the MLO is explicitly shown is the easter egg on TLT all this other stuff might not even be canon

[tacit gull]

I'm more mad that instead of proper stories for both SWAT and on site people are replaced with randomly generated officers and sticky notes that need to spell out le epic plot

[hollow jolt]

Eh i find story secondary

[chilly thorn]

Sticky notes? are you talking about like the ones in the investigation room?

Since they only show up after you finish the map

so you its just info you already know

[tacit gull]

I'm talking about stuff like the open emails on mindjot

[hollow jolt]

Its the swat game. Were here to play as swats swatting.

[chilly thorn]

well what else would they use?

Its not even part of a plot its just world building

[hollow jolt]

Do you just want the suspects to go into a monologue about every crime theyve ever commited when you restrain them

[chilly thorn]

I sorta agree I don't get why people want the Swat Character to have a story since this isn't about them

its about the situation thats unfolding

[hollow jolt]

Like the storys cool

[hollow jolt]

But also stop listening to the mp3 on the desk i need you to mirror under the door

[tacit gull]

It's a game about police, why wouldn't the officers have a story

Why wouldn't the officers have different relations with eachother and banter about it, why should it be canned voicelines that don't trail into dialogue?

[chilly thorn]

This is a game about what police respond to not the police themselves

[tacit gull]

??

[hollow jolt]

I dont think were arguing for no story. Just that it doesnt really need to be such a big worry.

Ok maybe azzy is saying no story

[chilly thorn]

Im arguing that this game should focus on the story being focused on the suspects and civilians

and maybe the judge subplot

[hollow jolt]

The huh

[tacit gull]

the judge subplot about him not being a character

[chilly thorn]

I mean hes more of a character then "Boss" from swat 4 lol

[hollow jolt]

Swat copman has a subplot?

[chilly thorn]

I feel like the logical conclusion for judges story would honestly just him getting assassinated by the government or continuing to be a tool

[chilly thorn]

He is sorta an expirement by the government to create a police state

[hollow jolt]

Fun

[chilly thorn]

basically hes a cop that will follow all orders without any moral problems

Because the government wants a dystopia

[tacit gull]

"clooooooooose dauhhhhhhh dooooour"

[hollow jolt]

Robocop aaah judge

The CIA when their top secret experiment man they put millions of dollars into gets oneshot by some dude with no pants on

[chilly thorn]

basically the moral of RoNs plot is "America is evil and bad"

[hollow jolt]

Lore accurate

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[chilly thorn]

Which yeah I guess it is pretty bad but so far they haven't really done much to stick out in the "Capatalism sucks" market of media.

[hollow jolt]

I think this ones more on the government sucks side of the society bad genre

What with judge the windup toy

[chilly thorn]

This game constantly gives a motive for the suspects so it definently doesn't think society is the problem

[hollow jolt]

I mean having a motive doesnt change much

[chilly thorn]

"G-guys I just realized Ready or not is le WOKE!!!!!1!"

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but I think you get what I mean

This game definently doesn't blame society for what unfolds in it

[hollow jolt]

The vets might be an outlier. Those guys are just straight up kinda reasonable (so far. I mean killing a senator is just a morally correct action)

[chilly thorn]

A lot of the suspects are in the catagory of reasonable motives but going way over the top

[hollow jolt]

And then you have the absolute fuckers

[chilly thorn]

The only suspect who explicitly has done nothing wrong are the Homeless on dorms

[hollow jolt]

"Officers. The homeless people have gone inside a building. Shoot them with shotguns NOW"

[chilly thorn]

The hand has a reasonable motive for their anger, with US airstrikes on their country killing thousands of innocent people (Most likely just for oil), The methheads on the Crack den are more victims of the los locos then horrible people, The Tran brothers are clearly not bad people, The Woman of the Cult are basically just vigilante justice, and the UPF has a pretty reasonable concern but go way too far in their activism.

[chilly thorn]

that map is my instant defense of people calling this game Copaganda

[twilit nimbus]

which map is this

[hollow jolt]

I mean. Its just a game from a swat perspective. Obviously your not gonna see a lot of the issues you get from police. Your the dudes who show up when shit gets silly. And then you fuck off

[chilly thorn]

Dorms

[twilit nimbus]

brb

[chilly thorn]

Yes but even then this game makes in my opinion a good enough effort

to try and avoid it

[surreal pelican]

How come I get C when a civ dies when the score says -200? But I still can get B if HVTs like Jack Adams is killed? Score says -500 when HVT dies

[chilly thorn]

think of it like when a test is worth 50% of your grade

[surreal pelican]

maaannn.. almost all of my civ deaths occur on Greased Palms

Those idiots just BOLT towards gunfire or just stay in the middle

But at least you still can get B if you kill Jack, B is still good enough for lethal

[storm belfry]

Jack is a loose end

[chilly thorn]

I usually just shoot jack honestly like I usually never try to hurt suspect but jack seems like a major asshole

[surreal pelican]

And the fact I have me and my squad dripped out as FISA HRT lol

[surreal pelican]

For me, i just 2 tap him to incap

If he's lucky, he gets taken in unharmed if he decides to hide at his office

Or if he's outside near weapons cache and gets affected by my flashbang

[chilly thorn]

he tends to hesistate a lot

I just shoot him in the nuts

[storm belfry]

He is an ass, he's basically a massively corrupt agent who's paid off by the cartel. He's egotistical enough to not care about hiding it, but he crumbles under pressure

[chilly thorn]

Too bad he prob got no prison sentance lol