👮ron-discussion

[vocal anchor]

what about the head

[rocky plover]

ye thats always a 1 shot kill irrelevant if its a pistol or anything hell even the beanbag hahaha (apart from pepperballs ofc)

thanks lol

oh im sry to hear that

[lost inlet]

buckshot has the highest damage possible while slug has the highest damage within a single projectile.

AP rifle rounds can pens every type of armor.

[eternal mason]

spending 40 mins to play a 10 min round

[solid phoenix]

7.62 AP slaps

[polar owl]

obv

[solid phoenix]

takes out pretty much everything, but the g3 for example has alot of recoil compared to something like the G36C or MCX SMG

the g36 is 5.56 and mcx is 9mm i belive

[rocky plover]

mpx is 9mm, mcx is 5.56

[wind gyro]

GA51 has barely any recoil if not using full auto

[marsh lark]

7.62x51mm is a battle rifle ammunition pretty much

US Army for example uses it on Scar H; which is a battle rifle

[solid phoenix]

thats true, however i was reffering to Full Auto

[solid phoenix]

most rifles are 5.56 now for whatever reason

[marsh lark]

It is the standardized ammunition across all NATO countries.

It is done so we can share ammunition logistically between countries

Instead of utilizing specific ammo types only a handful of weapons use making it pain in the ass to get ammo if it runs out from other countries or units in a warzone for example

[rocky plover]

true but so is 7.62 tbh, especially for machine guns and DMR's

[solid phoenix]

5.56×45mm NATO is a good round to be fair.

[marsh lark]

It is enough to knock out every oponent, even if someone's armor withstands it, you will still get major internal bleeding alongside broken ribs.

[solid phoenix]

i use the G36C, imo its the best 5.56

one of the best*

[latent crescent]

sr16 best 5.56

[rocky plover]

ye 7.62 and above would only help over further ranges, were 5.56 wouldn't be enough, but it's still pretty good

[solid phoenix]

ive actually never tried the SR16

[rocky plover]

SR16 goated ngl

[marsh lark]

Yes, but DMR's are less utilized. Most will use heavier ammunition and resort to being snipers

[solid phoenix]

isnt there a 20mm sniper

[rocky plover]

yeah such as 50 bmg, and machine guns there's both 5.56 and 7.62

[solid phoenix]

does the SR16 have full auto, because its based on the AR15

[rocky plover]

ye it does

[solid phoenix]

alright good

[rocky plover]

more like canons, not rifles lol

[solid phoenix]

i swear there is a sniper that does fire 20mm

[marsh lark]

Soviets did make questionable shotguns for riot control once though. They used sawed off anti air cannons and put them on a shotgun, their original purpose was to shoot 23x75mm shells, they were repurposed to shoot a 4 gauge shotgun shells, but were fitted with LTL ammunition. Needless to say it still hurt like a bitch, probably breaking your bones

[rocky plover]

ye there are, anti material ones, but also canons and gattling guns in that ammunition type

[solid phoenix]

yeah the M61 Vulcan 20mm Aircraft Gatling Cannon has it

fires it*

googled best weapons in ready or not and the ARN 180 is the top

followed by the GA416

[marsh lark]

In any case, there will always be lots of ammunition on the field or in active fighting zones, however most of these specific ammo types are fitted on vehicles or aircraft, so there is expected logistical support for that. For infantry though, it is best to use something standardized that is practically never going to run out, and considering rifles using 5.56 are close to mid range, users of said weapons will fire that ammo quite a lot, hence the standardized ammo alongside amazing logistical support for it.

[solid phoenix]

true, alot of rifles fire like 800RPM

with only 30 round mags

[marsh lark]

GA416 is atrocious.

[rocky plover]

arn180 with jhp is the best, but ga416 is one of the worst lol

[marsh lark]

It has one of the highest recoils in this game

out of all 5.56 rifles

[rocky plover]

yeah 5.56 rifle with 7.62 recoil xD

[solid phoenix]

SR16 is under 57USG, G36C, ARWC in A tier

[marsh lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1878248973#gid=1878248973

This sheet generally has accurate information in terms of recoil

[solid phoenix]

https://metatierlist.com/ready-or-not-weapon-tier-list/ | thats the tierlist im referring 2

[mighty hemlock]

Man why isn't the Coyote brown version of the Mechanix wear Mpact 3 gloves in the game they look soo good

[marsh lark]

I would not trust any tier list tbh

[solid phoenix]

thank you, thats very usefull

[solid phoenix]

its opinon mainly. so thats fair enough.

[rocky plover]

ARWC is good only until you get hit in your arm/s, then recoil becomes so stupid on it

[marsh lark]

The only drawback for SR16 is a longer barrel, other than that I cannot imagine it being bumped down to low A tier

[rocky plover]

yea, then that's where the F90 comes in imo XD

[marsh lark]

It has one of the lowest recoils in the game

[rocky plover]

short, low recoil

[solid phoenix]

also, does anyone know how you get the flashbang grenade launcher?

the big one, M32A1

[rocky plover]

you on console?

[solid phoenix]

PS5 Yes.

[marsh lark]

If you are a console player you had to buy the deluxe edition or you have to wait until the next DLC releases to obtain it

[rocky plover]

deluxe edition or wait for next update i think

[marsh lark]

With the next DLC all console players receive it for free.

[solid phoenix]

when is the next DLC? anyone know

[rocky plover]

yea along with the 590m and MK-V

[solid phoenix]

thats nice of the Devs

[rocky plover]

well no exact date so far, but hopefully soon

[marsh lark]

Yeah, no exact date. Us moderators also know just as much as you guys.

[solid phoenix]

is the F90 better than the SR 16? or vice versa

[smoky temple]

Hey uhm does anyone know how i unlock the hawaii polo shirt
i did 1x B and 2x A on the dolls thing map like it wanted from me but still havent got it
Do i have to do it in the single player? And which difficulty?

[rocky plover]

i prefer it cos its shorter, but SR16 slighly better recoil, but both very low recoil and good weapons tbh

[marsh lark]

They are almost identical, if you dont mind a longer barrel, then rock the SR16

[solid phoenix]

why does a longer barrel matter?

[marsh lark]

I never ran into an issue where a gun barrel would get me killed or something

[marsh lark]

Your weapon can get stuck on high ready when you hug a wall or a doorway

[rocky plover]

getting stuck on door threshold

[jolly verge]

F90 shoots faster and it's shorter

[solid phoenix]

ohh

G36C has lowest, i use it alot.

[marsh lark]

I never noticed PDW having a high recoil

🤔

And I used it quite often

[solid phoenix]

why do people say SR16 is better than G36C when that table shows otherwise.

[rocky plover]

i dont like it, cos slow fire rate

but its alright

[jolly verge]

Same recoil stats as 416

[marsh lark]

man I gotta be delusional or something

[solid phoenix]

SR16 has faster fire rate?

[jolly verge]

But you can't set SFMB on it

[solid phoenix]

didnt know that

[marsh lark]

Because GA416 felt worse in terms of recoil than the PDW

[rocky plover]

G36c 650
SR16 666
F90 750

[weak kelp]

usually you should be able to wear it even if locked after getting that A grade

[solid phoenix]

15 round difference

[marsh lark]

Fire rate is almost whatever, most enemies go down in two hits anyways

[smoky temple]

still dont have it

[solid phoenix]

yeah, 5.56 slaps. eitherway

[jolly verge]

You need S, not A or B

[mighty hemlock]

S rank valley of the dolls

I don't think difficulty matters

[weak kelp]

go for the S then

[mighty hemlock]

Did it on standard (got it after some time) then hard

[smoky temple]

bruh it tells me B

[jolly verge]

Not for Hawaii one

[solid phoenix]

i tried to go for an s run on the first mission, killed a guy with a BEANBAG shotgun

like how?

[rocky plover]

thats for the black version

[smoky temple]

btw can i unlock clothing if my game is modded?

[rocky plover]

yea

[smoky temple]

oh
ok thx

[weak kelp]

yeah well , either it's usable even if locked or just gotta aim for the S

[mighty hemlock]

Hawaii one needs an S, B gives you the basic black

[smoky temple]

thx thx guys

[weak kelp]

yup

[coarse osprey]

we're always asking what is the best weapon in RoN, but never what is the worst weapon

[mighty hemlock]

Beanbags, just like in real life, can kill if you shoot someone in the head

[jolly verge]

Beanbag kill on headshot, not for swat ai tho

[solid phoenix]

i did not know that, thanks.

[mighty hemlock]

That P320 chassis

[jolly verge]

Cs gas

[mighty hemlock]

Raider X P320

[solid phoenix]

CS gas very usefull defo not the worst

[rocky plover]

mp5/10mm ngl XD

[jolly verge]

It's does nothing after nerf

[weak kelp]

lol nah , it's the non lethal pistol , got only 6 rounds and most of the enemies will tank that shit and kill you on hard difficulty

[solid phoenix]

love that pistol.

its in my loadout for lightly armoured to medium armoured

[jolly verge]

No wonder, you need exactly 6 shots of pepperballs to stun suspect on hard difficulty

[rocky plover]

if you miss 1, you're doomed XD

[weak kelp]

lol

[mighty hemlock]

Skill based gambling

[solid phoenix]

best sidearm is the 357 magnum or the USP

[rocky plover]

mag for every suspect, needs some balancing lol, give me 5 mags per 1 slot not 1 mag per slot wtf

[mighty hemlock]

I disagree. MKV Grizzley is on top

One taps everyone

[wind gyro]

cap. 50 cal

[jolly verge]

.357 🤮
50AE

[mighty hemlock]

"Watch yo tone"

[wind gyro]

3 against 1

[rocky plover]

USP is very good but struggles on medium and higher armors

[solid phoenix]

MKV Grizzley, to be fair, never tried

[mighty hemlock]

Try it it's cracked

You can run it as a primary

[rocky plover]

yea you'll get it along with 590m and m32a1 launcher

[solid phoenix]

whats the best sidearm for console players since i dont have it.

[mighty hemlock]

I'm using it in my ironman run rn it's baller

[mighty hemlock]

Like the ones you get for free???

USP 45 imo although I don't use it much

[solid phoenix]

i have dark waters dlc thats it

[rocky plover]

usp is very good for up to L2 armor , for L3 armor 5-7 i guess

[solid phoenix]

yeah i mainly use USP

[wind gyro]

the mkv is on console if you pre ordered it

it will become available to everyone that didnt pre order when dlc3 drops

[solid phoenix]

yea i was told

m32a1 looks hella fun

[wind gyro]

its too op

[mighty hemlock]

I love that thing. Makes S ranks soo much easier

[wind gyro]

its easier than using normal guns

[mighty hemlock]

Yeah you don't even have to aim. Just shoot in somones general direction and they get to meet Apollo

[wind gyro]

they should nerf the range on it tbh, it can like clear a whole room with one shot

[mighty hemlock]

Imo I'd make it more realistic (Irl you wouldn't survive a 40mm flash to the body)

Would make players have to aim

For S ranks

[rocky plover]

or just remove the first free 6 shots

[mighty hemlock]

Although I'm not sure

[rocky plover]

well that's how it was before, but they removed it......

[wind gyro]

it used to do damage

[rocky plover]

idk why

[mighty hemlock]

Wait really????

[jolly verge]

Yeah, I think 3m instead of 10m would be good

[mighty hemlock]

Bruh

[wind gyro]

real

[rocky plover]

yep same with the long tactical one m320

[wind gyro]

id like to see a full auto inf ammo on the flash launcher

[rocky plover]

Bulletstorm m32a1 when? hahahha

[mighty hemlock]

Just mod in a Mk19

[wind gyro]

nah

[steady locust]

why is it so blurry ?

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[jolly verge]

Disable DLSS/FSR, set resolution scale on 100%

[vale needle]

bro the swat ai are actually nincompoops you have to baby sit them or they get dropped by flies by a suspect running all over the place like they are in cheesy action b movie

im supposed to believe they have over half a decade of experience too

i hope void fixes them or revamps them or just something

[fringe hawk]

How long has the button to report players been out of order?

Nvm I'm just a bit slow lol

[rocky plover]

@jolly verge 😂

[jolly verge]

What

[rocky plover]

that guy wondering why he had no pistol ammo

he had both buckshot and slugs and thought he had pistol ammo

[jolly verge]

So that why he removed a post

[rocky plover]

after I told him you have both buckshot and slugs and do not have pistol ammo, he just said ok sorry for wasting your time, bye. and deleted it XD

all in 1 second lol

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

barely had time to send him 👍 , after he removed it

[steady locust]

thannks i'll try

[celest tree]

Hey looking for a group to a grade hide and seek

[rocky plover]

#🔎looking-for-players

[vale needle]

also i found a ui bug, on the officers screen no matter what you equip it will always say they have 0 utilities

ill take a screenshot when im not feeling lazy

[nova forge]

@next hinge i do kinda wish we had a selection of different ironsights

[next hinge]

I've attempted to remove them off the model in blender but I have no idea what I'm doing

[rocky plover]

I'm curious how they will 'edit' them when they introduce magnifiers

Due to clearance and stuff

[nova forge]

idk, i feel like gun designers and developers are absolutely allergic to making quality ironsights

this problem is most apparent in aperture sights and U-types

ive seen some abysmal candidates

[next hinge]

The sights affect your field of vision to where there's no point in using them

I feel like there's a lot of attachments that I just don't use in the same way

It's a bummer

[rocky plover]

Yea some just block your right side especially too much

[nova forge]

i almost exclusively use ironsights because i want to have the most field of view, i also really really hate risers and height over bore

[rocky plover]

Would be fixed if they change the weapon player model placement

Ye but the problem is I prefer a flashlight over laser so a sight is kinda preferred over irons

[next hinge]

Oh yeah that's what I meant, target placement is the issue

[nova forge]

im used to ironsights because i use them alot irl

[next hinge]

Are they as abysmal?

[nova forge]

its hard to get accustomed to them in videogames because... its hard to describe but aperture sights just dont feel the same

[nova forge]

no they're bloody lovely irl

you can paint the front sight bright orange, you can add alignment dots and neon paint

[rocky plover]

Yea it's different in games cos it's on a flat screen

[next hinge]

I can't tell where I'm shooting without a laser

Makes up for the lack of a crosshair

[next hinge]

Could be a cool texture mod

[nova forge]

i once saw one of my teammates in text chat talking about how he uses a crosshair overlay to hipfire 😭 i didnt have the heart to tell him the gun moves around and doesnt always aim at the center of the screen

[rocky plover]

Even if you would use a sight?

[rocky plover]

Hahaha ikr

[next hinge]

When hip firing I guess

[rocky plover]

Ah I see, I rarely hip fire tbh

[nova forge]

i will say that using ironsights with NVGs is abysmal

[next hinge]

You can pull up the command menu to see a center dot, but like Xolo said, it's not in-line with the barrel

[nova forge]

its never in center even if you're standing still

[rocky plover]

As much as I don't like risers that much, for nvg's they're nice

[rocky plover]

True

[viscid cobalt]

yall i js started and why do the hostage holders kill the hostage the second they spot me?

like whats the point of a hostage

[next hinge]

I think it's if you get too close, it's really fidgety

You could try stinging or flashing if you know where they are

[rocky plover]

They usually give you plenty of time to either take a shot, throw a flash or something else

Either you're aggravating them more

[next hinge]

Oh they have voice lines too that you can listen out for

[nova forge]

they usually take hostages when they are stressed

they get stressed when they hear you doing things (shooting, breaking shit, shouting, flashing, running)

[next hinge]

Suppressors lessen it right?

[nova forge]

by 50% yes

[viscid cobalt]

ah damn well thanks for the info

[nova forge]

TOC will also tell you when they take hostages, im not sure how TOC knows this but praise the all powerful TOC

[next hinge]

Omniscient

[nova forge]

"TOC to element, the hostage just picked his nose"

[rocky plover]

[nova forge]

"TOC to element, the suspect is jiggle peeking from under a desk with an FAL and hes cracked"

"dont swing him"

[rocky plover]

Except for LVAR and mp5sd6

[next hinge]

Really?

I never checked in UAsset

That's an oversight

[rocky plover]

Yeah they need to fix that tbh, idk why the integrally suppressed weapons count as 'loud' for the stress mechanic thing

[next hinge]

Pretty easy fix hopefully

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/16-times-the-detail-16-times-16x-detail-fallout-76-gif-16559377424094332938

[rocky plover]

Hopefully ☕

[crude prism]

this but with the teddy bear from the evidence room

[nova forge]

i typically have an aversion to integrally suppressed weapons

in real life integral suppressors mean very low aftermarket variety and no customizability

[stable kernel]

Y'all got any of them triangles?

[nova forge]

the 27 million polgyon teddy bear

[rocky plover]

Lol

[rocky plover]

True

[nova forge]

i was playing this roblox game and found a buried rock in the corner of the games map, as i got closer to it my FPS dropped lower and lower, and when standing next to it i dropped to 3 FPS

i found out later some dipshit on the dev team attached like 30,000+ decals to the rock

it was like it was radioactive, the closer you got the more dangerous

[jolly verge]

Console exclusive polygons

[nova forge]

lmAO

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-eyebrow-gif-21516829

Looking mask

Why better LOD when worse do trick

[nova forge]

jesse, we need to use meshes

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-walter-white-yelling-screaming-shouting-gif-8244177444465527469

[rocky plover]

[stable kernel]

Well it is a skeletal mesh already

Just uh

Slightly low detail

[nova forge]

"yea lol i paid a LUA coder 15$ to make this mesh in source filmmaker and somehow imported it into unreal engine"

[stable kernel]

Nah the mesh is fine it's a LOD issue

[solid phoenix]

I know its not easy in a game with random spawns, but anyone got any tips for the elephant mission? The 9th one

[jolly verge]

LOD3 more like LOD30

[stable kernel]

[nova forge]

going for S rank?

[solid phoenix]

No, just Normal

Just to get past it to continue

[nova forge]

uhhh

10 magazines of .300 blackout

ceramic armor

[nova forge]

prefire every room

[solid phoenix]

What is pre firing

[wind gyro]

why is there emptinees at the bottom

[solid phoenix]

I've heard of it, kinda new to shooter games

[jolly verge]

Kill suspects first, defuse bombs after, does not matter if they kill all civilians btw

[solid phoenix]

Gotta be joking?

[crude prism]

teehee

[wind gyro]

cool

[nova forge]

if you dont care about the grade and just want to get it finished, im not joking

[solid phoenix]

Doesn't matter if they kill em all?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[stable kernel]

Delete it

Or else

[jolly verge]

You will unlock next mission regardless of grade

[wind gyro]

sorry youre not ready

[nova forge]

"i do not 'slice the pie'

i do not 'mirror gun'

and i do not 'flashbang'

i hard peek with pepper spray and if i die, i die"

[wind gyro]

thank you king

[stable kernel]

[thick dome]

flash bangs and GA51 loud. not asking twice lol

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/eunuch-snip-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-23974692

Crop your meme

You wouldn't want to make me angry

Or rather you shouldn't want to

[wind gyro]

he doesnt want to stretch it

[wispy nymph]

should i buy ron

[nova forge]

the fireball is so big that you dont even have to hit your target to kill them

[sterile kiln]

Yall, tbh. The Valley of the dolls "suspects" those like guards or whatever, idk why, but they are my favorite. Like they do it just cause they're paid

[steep ridge]

just like security at the datacentre

and technically the guys at spider

[sterile kiln]

Exactly

Like they even tell you "i respect you guys"

"you know, i have a family" and they just surrender

Like thats what i want to see

[solid phoenix]

I just ran in there with a breaching shotgun

And a g36c , worked flawlessly

[sterile kiln]

The g36c might be one of the Best Guns tbh

[solid phoenix]

Close range god

They did execute a few civilians though

Still got a C

[sterile kiln]

Thats bad

Always push yourself for an A

[thick dome]

its the lowest recoiling AR, by quite a margin..so its very easy to use...and it can use the sro red dot.

[sterile kiln]

IT is. Plus it uses 7.62 bullets which makes it really powerfull

Its just a battle rifle

[thick dome]

huh? the g36 is 556

[celest grotto]

no it uses 5.56

[sterile kiln]

Really?

[inland wolf]

thats g3

[sterile kiln]

Oh yea my bad

[inland wolf]

not the same as g36

[thick dome]

yeah..ga51 and g3 are 762

[sterile kiln]

Nah cause this game is fucking with my brain istg

[inland wolf]

these AI are so stupid and suspects even stupider

[thick dome]

I like to use the mcx AR though. cause it has basically the same recoil pattern and of as the arn180..and I like to flip back n forth. so it's a consistency thing

[celest grotto]

what type of bullets is the arn-180

[thick dome]

300 bo

[dusty marsh]

Ummm does anyone know how to fix Ron on console me and my friends keep crashing

[celest grotto]

ah, which do you prwefer the mcx or the arn cuse oi usually use the arn cuse i like the low recoil

[celest grotto]

try tech support

[thick dome]

mcx and arn180 have almost same recoil pattern. so it's just whether i wanna use 556 or 300bo

[dusty marsh]

For xbox?

[celest grotto]

yeah its a discord chat

under ron feedback

[thick dome]

g36 will spoil you cause it's recoil is so low..it'll make everything else feel unruly

[celest grotto]

whats better, 556 or 300?

[thick dome]

300 has sl8ghtly more dmg, 556 has more pen

[inland wolf]

we should be able to disarm suspects with melee

[thick dome]

well..300 has more jhp pen ..I think 556 has more AP pen

there are some maps where suspects have increased health and 556 goes,from a 2 shot incapable on lvl 3+ armor to 3 whot..but 300 stays 2 shot. but 556 has better wall pen.

been a bit since I
looked at the details. there's a spreadsheet out there with all the values

300 Bo I THINK is better in all cases than 556 on hard diff cause of suspect health

[celest grotto]

okay thanks

k

what does the fiveseven use?

[sterile kiln]

Agreed. The mele System should be a little bit more different. Yk? Like takedown style. Yk that in rdr2 you can mele those dudes twice to knock them out. Thats like also what we should be able to do. After all we are the SWAT, no?

[thick dome]

5.7x28 ..same ammo with mp7

same damage model as 9mm, but much higher armor pen.

[celest grotto]

okay im looking through sheets and am thinking to stick with arn 180

[thick dome]

arn is great and looks good too

556AP has higher material pen..somif ypumare fond of shooting through doors n walls it offers some advantage there lol

ga51 and AP for terminator action lol

[wheat basin]

Is ron genuinely punishing in the sense that it really isnt forgiving even if the killing was justified

[celest grotto]

yeah. kinda sucks because half of the suspects deserve to be popped in the skull

[umbral girder]

Does ron have steam workshop?

[tired jungle]

I mean... Who gives a fuck about the score

[fleet basin]

I’ve heard online that there’s some sort of weapon editing table where you can change your primary or sidearms skin? Maybe I’m just stupid, but I haven’t found it, can anybody point me in the right direction?

[tired jungle]

The locker and then at the table next to the indoor range where there's a guy behind a counter. Also downstairs at the killhouse there is a guy behind a desk where you can change guns etc

[fleet basin]

Yes I’ve seen that but I haven’t seen an option to change the guns skin, as people have said you can do

[tired jungle]

You need mods

[fleet basin]

Wait is it multiplayer only?

[fleet basin]

Oh ok

Thanks

[old flare]

Been playing since febuary 1st, 2022. Does anyone else who has been playing for a while remember the old playtest missions with orange and grey placeholder boxes?

Feel like I imagined those was so long ago

[simple light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1370064104064290889/1454297619957420194/togif.gif

Bruh

Can I have gif perms please I will not send offensive stuff

[wheat basin]

fr like irl PD is told to eliminate the threat (if i remember correctly) and that sometimes comes with killing and its annoying ASF

[celest grotto]

yeah, its not realistic to have to get no elims to compete a mission to the fullest, in addition to that real swat doesn't usually do non lethal raids unless it involves public

[strong fox]

To be fair, SWAT doesn't do half the stuff we do in game

[celest grotto]

yeah

swat doesn't usually pop civils when bored

[celest tree]

Does anyone know what the shortest assault rifle is?

[lapis sedge]

I think it’s the DM4

[celest tree]

Thanks

[celest grotto]

if you want a good cqb i would go with arn 180

[celest tree]

I’m torn between the arm 180, the dm4, and the f90

[lapis sedge]

F90 is best for full auto that’s for sure

[celest grotto]

arn all the way, its my main and has insainley low recoil, good penetration, and good damage. also looking at spreadsheats and videos, arn is the clear cqb ar

[celest tree]

Plus .300 blackout

[celest grotto]

yes

if you want ill give you a link to a good spreadsheat

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143

[lapis sedge]

Use the Raider, best gun in the game

[celest grotto]

idk, it all comes down to personal preference. there is no "meta" gun other then the fiveseven

[lapis sedge]

Literally can’t die on Greased Palms with the Raider and TRPL for a secondary, throw in some pepper spray and the mandatory lockpick gun and nothing can touch you

[celest grotto]

trpl is ass, worst sidearm in the game

it can only take down one suspect

[lapis sedge]

If you don’t miss

[celest grotto]

no, it takes 1-5 shots on average to get a sus to surrender

[lapis sedge]

No need for a secondary anyway if you run flash cannon

Cheesiest way to do S ranks

[celest grotto]

yeah

[lapis sedge]

Any news about the next DLC/update or still radio silence ?

[celest grotto]

i heard they are coming out with a update where you can have flashlight and laser

[celest tree]

I just got the MKV

[lapis sedge]

Yeah I saw that too but no mentions of when it gets released

[lapis sedge]

BLAM

[celest tree]

It makes the game a point and click adventure game

[lapis sedge]

I did most of my missions on hard with it and a shield

[celest tree]

Now then uh please give us extended magazines

[lapis sedge]

And akimbo

[wheat basin]

Akimbo is crazy

[celest grotto]

yeah, they need to add bigger mags but there would have to be downsides to them too

[wheat basin]

bro wants this to turn into cod

[proud drift]

We need to be able to slide

[lapis sedge]

Slide cancel SMG rush on Twisted Nerves

360 no scope grandma on Kawayu

Now that I think about it, it would be cool to have snipers in the game and add some vantage points to the maps

[wheat basin]

there is a mod for that

[lapis sedge]

I’m on PS5, I’ll stick to the Port Hokan tower

Are there any other big useful vantage points in base game ?

[wispy nymph]

is ron worth it

[celest grotto]

100%

[wispy nymph]

is it replayable?

like is it good when replayed

[celest grotto]

on multiplayer

other then that missions get boaring after like 3 runs

[viscid bane]

If you’re willing to use Nexus mods yeah, otherwise you’ll get like 20 hours out of it before uninstalling and reinstalling every 3 months

[fast cave]

navy veteran, non combat. going to play through solo, was wondering if anyone had any advice? CQB, tactics, or other general game info would be much appreciated.

[worldly nacelle]

played it for the first time

lost my first officer in the 23 megabytes op

and idk why, but it actually had me scared seeing him get gunned down

then the game just tells me 'you have to replace him'

which felt heartless

[viscid bane]

Flashbangs are the best throwables (CSGAS isn’t real) and SMGs aren’t worth using

[fast cave]

so long rifle or shotgun?

[viscid bane]

The AI is only affected by gunshots if it’s enough to incapacitate or kill them so SMGs will use a ton of ammo to incap even the P90 or MP7, especially the MP7

[viscid bane]

I love the G3 and G5, both 7.62s that always drop in 3 shots tops, normally 1 or 2 tho

And shotguns are also quite good I’d say but slugs are terrible, only use buckshot imo

[fast cave]

so the ai are basically on pcp, no flinching to pain at all. lol

[fast cave]

semi auto or full?

i guess that depends on the situation

[viscid bane]

I like to call them all terminators or brain dead

[fast cave]

lulz

call em james browns

[viscid bane]

I prefer single fire for fun, it’s really up to preference tbh

[fast cave]

im more accurate with single fire but my reaction time as i've gotten older isn't so great

[viscid bane]

Calling for compliance is quite good to get suspects to respond

Reveals their location, and if yours not sure you can always throw a grenade into the room

Or use the mirror gun but that’s boring asf ngl

[fast cave]

i kind of like the mirror gun. i think that's what it is. goes under the door and you can see in the next room. kinda cool. but im a nerd.

[viscid bane]

Lots of people like it but I find it just slows things down so much and gets rid of a lot of the tension but obviously use it if you want

[fast cave]

going in totally blind and playing that way would be stressful af for me personally. would like to have the best rating but honestly kind of confused by the rating system.

not confused, just disagree with it

[viscid bane]

S ranking is just for completionists and makes no sense if you think about it

[worthy notch]

Any advice for ides of march S rank I’m trying to s rank them all in a row (dlc included)

[viscid bane]

But tbh they don’t matter much

I just downloaded the No Mercy For Terrorists mod and it has made the game much more enjoyable

[worthy notch]

Also I’m doing it with 1 other person rn so I can’t use command wheel😭

[viscid bane]

You must form the testudo formation with ballistic shields

Or just use the flash GL lol

[worthy notch]

This MIGHT be the only acceptable answer

[viscid bane]

I like the shield but it kinda becomes unusable after the second engagement for players

[wispy nymph]

what is nexus mods

[mellow bridge]

What’s better for S ranking on ps5? Pepper ball or bean bag?

[viscid bane]

The thing devs make players use when they break their promise of adding steam workshop support

[viscid bane]

M230 FLASH

[mellow bridge]

I prefer to use the mirror gun though

I’ve gotten 5 S ranks so far with the bean bag. Would be 6 but I hit the very last guy on twisted nerve in the head

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-facepalm-oh-no-oh-hell-no-no-gif-10723914200679373178

Not even true..

[viscid bane]

M230 goes in the primary slot doesn’t it?

[celest grotto]

whats the mod where you dont need to zip up evidence?

[split sequoia]

No it takes up the long tactical slot

[celest tree]

Man iron man sucks

[torpid onyx]

m320 is a long tactical single shot grenade launcher, m32a1 is a primary slot rotary grenade launcher (available on PC or console with preorder or deluxe edition)

m32a1 will be available for all on console when DLC 3 releases thoguh

[pseudo sierra]

the new ragdoll returns mod update is so sick

[stuck glacier]

Found the HQ of Bolton Security

[chilly thorn]

Dlc4*

[marsh lark]

DLC3

DLC 3 has not happened yet, and LSS is not counted as a DLC

You could think of it as DLC 2.5

[chilly thorn]

Ehhhh

[rocky plover]

M32A1 primary (m320 is long tactical), but between pepperball and beanbag, beanbag is better if you can hit your shots imo

[pseudo sierra]

is that sledgehammer melee mod updated

[rough needle]

im a positive moral good i did not leave a single suspect alive on elephant

[floral peak]

Keep in mind that m32a1 only available on Deluxe edition on consoles

He might not have deluxe on ps5

[rough needle]

wtf

[floral peak]

Yeahs, that’s dumb asf

[rough needle]

m32a1 is the

grenade launcher w the revolving cylinder right

[floral peak]

Yes

And not only m32a1

[rough needle]

the thing is basically useless in my runs but it still shouldnt be deluxe only

[floral peak]

Some other things are locked behind deluxe too

[rocky plover]

Yea or if he pre-ordered

But they will get them for free anyways when dlc3 releases

[floral peak]

It’s THE MOST OP THING for S ranking

Especially on Hard

[rocky plover]

590m shotgun, m32a1 launcher (flash and gas), Mkv pistol, pepperball pistol I think

Most op thing for anything tbh lol doesn't require precise aim 😂

[rough needle]

oh yeah i have a mod that makes scoring lighter and lets you kill people to get an s rank forgot

[rough needle]

wtf

[rocky plover]

no mercy i think

[torpid onyx]

pepperball pistol is base game

it's just the mag fed shotty, 50ae, and rotary launcher

[rocky plover]

ye those 3then

[maiden sequoia]

FINALLY

I finished the game on hard

[rocky plover]

[maiden sequoia]

Now to delete it and wait for the next update

[glass heart]

the pepperball launchers have become less effective since LSS so the beanbag is a better option. However using the flash m32 is even easier

[bitter sandal]

I just did Elephant on Standard while my entire team was "content", saved every civilian, arrested every suspect, defused the bombs all with an S rank and now when I went back to the lobby everyone became stressed? Wtf

[rocky plover]

yea that's the only mission where irrelevant of how it goes, they always get stressed on it

[bitter sandal]

Was it always that way or did they made that change recently? I stopped playing for 2 months but i never remember them getting stressed on elephant

[rocky plover]

it was always like that afaik

[bitter sandal]

Thanks for the answer

[rocky plover]

you're welcome

[marsh lark]

Well, realistically speaking, not a lot of people will shrug that off any time soon

Especially not cops that have to see the horrors inside.

[bitter sandal]

Since it's a school and there's a lot of kids yea I'd say so but what about the nightclub mission? There were a lot more young dead people in that place than in Elephant, and those phones ringing endlessly in pools of blood would keep anyone in therapy for years, yet your cops won't get stressed from it like in Elephant

[rocky plover]

true agree

[marsh lark]

Well, at the end of the day, psychology works different. You cannot see in the heads of others, but we as adults are very protective of children, and ease up our expressions or use a nicer tone when approaching them. Seeing them like that is horrible and takes a toll on everyone way more than when it is a terorist attack where everyone is an adult. I am not saying there would not be a toll on the psychological aspect, but I would argue it is not that horrific as when it happens in school.

Cops will often feel depressed, sickened by what happened when it's a massive terrorist attack. But they will feel brutal anger alongside depression or extremely low morale when it happens in school full of children, or rather very young adults that don't even have the ropes of life completely.

If you go to the evidence locker, you can find a box that is damaged and there is a text written by a black marker in the sense that the cop processing the evidence is full of anger and is sad, because not only was it a school, but his very own child had died in that attack.

All in all, both of these examples are sad. It happens around the world and it sucks, it is something we should never have to hear about or see. Nothing that should ever happen, period.

[maiden sequoia]

Don't forget the basement of Valley of the dolls

I'm pretty sure these officers seen enough to piece it together

[marsh lark]

I think what differentiates Valley of the Dolls from all this is that you, and the cops will be sickened by what happens there, full of anger. They will probably not be so mentally fucked anywhere near like the two examples above

[maiden sequoia]

Your examples summed up was since it was collage students it's worse (obviously in general for it to happen to anyone is bad) in valley of the dolls we have literal children

Hidden away from the world

[marsh lark]

Seeing dead bodies in a public facility for the world to see is just worse, it is something that never should have happened. Seeing kidnapped children and the subsequent events the levels show is horrible, but I doubt it will take the same psychological toll as the former.

I am not downplaying the horrific details of all these levels, I am just saying that I firmly believe that the former is just worse.

[maiden sequoia]

Kidnapped children? You have dead kids in barrels after Amos had his way

And documented

[marsh lark]

Right, I understand that. People will get sick from that, but you do not have to step over dead bodies with blood spilled everywhere while trying to get the people who did this, the aspect of both scenarios could be that it was an active shooter scenario. Cops can ask themselves: What if we were faster? Did we make a mistake down the line? Did we miss something?

All of these will contribute to making a bigger toll. Your situation is that, it is already done. Nothing you could have done, and of course it will take emotional toll on cops that will investigate it, and will have to document it, but it is not going to be the SWAT team.

[willow locust]

It’s been 5 and a half months since console release. 6 months exactly on Jan 15th, 2026. And no major expansive update yet. 💔

[bitter sandal]

Still waiting for small quirks of the game to get fixed lol. Dlc achievements still have issues, my cops get stuck in random places sometimes etc. These are all things I'm more concerned with personally

[marsh lark]

Those will be tackled with or after the next DLC releases

There have already been 3 patches since LSS which is the amount of patches you get each big update

[bitter sandal]

Only thing I noticed they sorta fixed is the search and secure command. They actually look like they're looking and arresting rather than barely moving away from the location you sent them to

[wind gyro]

nothing changed, they only do it at the end

[keen herald]

Whats a good primary weapon for the hotel

[rocky plover]

any AR you'd like with AP rounds cos some got L4 armour

[shy finch]

whats the best way to get through the post depot mission i keep messing up and getting d rank

[stone bay]

Turn the place into a dutch oven

[torpid onyx]

gas radius and time to immobilise a suspect is so garbage now it's no use

[buoyant falcon]

God damit, i search every inch of room 1204. I search all desk,Bathroom, kichen, liveing room, toilet room, shelters and beds. But still can't find sinper rifle, maybe they hide in very speical place

[rocky plover]

[torpid onyx]

it's literally just along the windows there's a sniper lying on a table

I forget if 1204 is the one with the tv room or the big circular couch

[rocky plover]

he's been at it (and asking) for the past 3 days, I think he's trolling

[torpid onyx]

either way bro is special

[rocky plover]

[fallen helm]

Are there mods that get rid of censorship available? I wonder how it all went down after the censorship patch and it being taken down from the modding portals

[marsh lark]

It was not taken down from a single modding platform

[tacit gull]

Yes, there's a mod made by mr eman both on nexus and modio

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure the original, fully uncensored one was

[fallen helm]

Of course it was, it was taken down from nexus mods. Educate yourself

[fallen helm]

Thanks brother, I'll check that!

[marsh lark]

Knock it off with the attitude

You can say these things respectfully.

[marsh lark]

Temporarily, yes. That was due to nexusmods changing their policy on something.

[tacit gull]

No, permanently

That's exactly why the mod has removed some of its features

[marsh lark]

Yeah that is what I meant, Eman reuploaded it with changing the features nexusmods did not allow.

Though it remained unchanged on mod.io

afaik

[fallen helm]

Yeah, thus gotta check if it just gets the game to the original state. I really wish to get back to MP with my friends, got a bit tired of SP only

[tacit gull]

You probably wont notice the missing changes

[marsh lark]

The mod.io one should get more of the original features back

[tacit gull]

To be fair

[fallen helm]

Let's not go down the rabbit hole, I will, I still have the precensorship version of the game. But I'll check that Medo, thanks!

[marsh lark]

Of course.

mod.io has more leeway on what is allowed than nexusmods.

I am not entirely sure what their content guidelines are. They do have lots of edgy stuff, I think they tackle the graphical and violent content more than anything else, which are the sort of things the uncensored mod does.

[shell scaffold]

when will the supporter code be added back..

[rocky plover]

it was removed after 1.0 release

[shell scaffold]

it was still implemented in 2024

[rocky plover]

if you have supporter edition, try going/asking on their discord

[marsh lark]

Already advised him to create a ticket

[rocky plover]

ok

[marsh lark]

Pretty sure you will get instantly kicked if you randomly join the supporter discord

[rocky plover]

true

[mellow bridge]

Does anyone else think the officer stress is just an annoying touch?

I don’t even get what it does it just pops up whenever I try to do anything

[rocky plover]

play quickplay, same thing as commander mode without stress thing

[old flare]

i only play quickplay

I find it so much easier to just loadup and leave if i messed up a piece of kit or something without abandoning the mission

[rocky plover]

yep

[torpid onyx]

it's probably just to de-incentivise people from trying to Rambo their way thru a mission and mitigate people from essentially "completing" their officer lineup by having the perfect lineup of traits and instead forcing people to sub officers off at times for therapy

but if you just take enough suspects alive or run sbags you can usually keep stress completely in check without having it increase or you can just go back to an earlier mission and do that non lethal to put everyone back up to calm without needing to wait 3 missions for therapy

it's not hard to manage even with therapy though just put your stressed or crisis officers in therapy and avoid literally killing everyone every mission and it works itself out

[mellow bridge]

Can you still get trophies in quick play?

[mellow bridge]

Believe me that’s what I’m trying to do, but every time I need to reset it makes me get new officers and some are stressed blah blah. I just see it as more of an inconvenience than anything

[kindred juniper]

What maps have bombs

[rocky plover]

yes ofc, apart from ones specified for commander mode like the traits trophies and ironman

[rocky plover]

so far just elephant and relapse

[mellow bridge]

Do you get new guns when you buy the dlcs?

[jolly verge]

Stress is easy to manage, just don't kill every single suspect

[buoyant falcon]

Yo guys, now i on mission greased palms.

[rocky plover]

no just the maps and some cosmetics, guns are usually always given for free with the update

[mellow bridge]

What is the best dlc map

[gloomy vortex]

I thought stress was also a little mission dependent. My 4 guys went from content to crisis on the Elephant mission and all quit lol

No one got injured but me, didn't kill any civis

[rocky plover]

ye that map is an exception, they get stressed irrelevant of the outcome

[jolly verge]

Elephant is scripted to set officers stress at 0.5 even if you arrested everyone alive

[mellow bridge]

I thought this boat map sounded cool but it’s just a big game of hide and seek

How many suspects does it have on standard

[jolly verge]

11-12 +1 on hard

[mellow bridge]

I guess the strategy is to run around with a shotgun

[gloomy vortex]

if I had to go through a active school shooting AND bomb threat I'd get stressed the fuck out too

[rocky plover]

yup

[mellow bridge]

You could say that for any map in the game

[buoyant falcon]

Its only 2 maps

[mellow bridge]

There are 8

[jolly verge]

6*

[rocky plover]

6 tbh, the last 2 were an update not dlc

[urban nest]

What level would u guys say is the hardest

[gloomy vortex]

Greased palms

[stray iris]

Greased palms and that fuckass hospital map

[gloomy vortex]

It's greased palms, the hospital one, then neon tomb imo

[urban nest]

Alr

Just started the game, prob one of the best games I’ve played

[rocky plover]

3 letter triad can also be annoying

[buoyant falcon]

Realy i though only 2

[stray iris]

Neon tomb is ez pz

[gloomy vortex]

I hate neon tomb

Especially the 2nd floor with all the tables and little nooks everywhere

[rocky plover]

neon tomb becomes quite easy once you get used to it, but yea the suspects start stressed there so it can be a bit annoying but relapse, port are harder imo

[gloomy vortex]

I strolled through port super easily

I had a much better time on port than neon tomb lmao

[rocky plover]

yea tbh with lethal port isnt hard, i was merely judging the map hardness based on using less lethal haha

but it can still be annoying due to large number of suspects

[gloomy vortex]

Ooh if we're going less lethal then yeah

Then its definitely harder

Im usually the sort to just..shoot the baddies

Im more than happy with an A rank

[rocky plover]

kinda like greased palms imo, very easy map but with less lethal the difficulty spikes a bit compared to other maps

[mellow bridge]

Greased palms is hard no matter what you do

[rocky plover]

well it aint easy as gas station, but there's far harder ones imo

[mellow bridge]

I always go in with a shoot everything mentality and still lose the second I go outside or in the packing room

I think elephant or mindjot is the hardest

[rocky plover]

the absolute hard is 3 letter triad imo

[gloomy vortex]

First time on elephant the bomb exploded as I was defusing it. Last one too :(

[gloomy vortex]

Guessing that's a dlc mission?

[rocky plover]

yea

[gloomy vortex]

Fair

[mellow bridge]

I can tell it’s hard by the amount of entrances

[gloomy vortex]

I just get lost in it easily

[odd cove]

Haven’t played in like 4 months and got back into it because a friend got it for Christmas, played VotD on commander mode and all four of my officers resigned #WeAreSoBack

[old star]

narcos has become my favorite warm up map

[rocky plover]

i would love narcos so much more if suspects were mostly indoors, for that cqc tactical feel

[mellow bridge]

First try and I’m can confidently say 3 letter triad is the hardest map

[rocky plover]

now try it on hard mode and get S on it

[gritty nova]

There's only 12 missions

[latent crescent]

what?

[gritty nova]

18 counting the dlcs

the paid ones

[latent crescent]

are u sure

[rocky plover]

26 counting everything bruh

[latent crescent]

yeah lmfao

[gritty nova]

WAIT

does quickplay

Shows only the missions you completed + the next one you haven't

[rocky plover]

yep if you've never unlocked them yet

if you go on multiplayer though they will all show

[gritty nova]

I got confused for a second that you have lied to me lol, as all the missions I've played plus the 6 from dlc's make 18 and then +2 from los suenos stories

It all just connected perfectly duh, sorry for that

[rocky plover]

no worries lol, 18 are base game missions, then 3 from home invasion, another 3 from dark waters and 2 from LSS

[gritty nova]

I got scared for a second I have finished everything lol

[rocky plover]

[sterile kiln]

Yall, tbh the SA-58 is my favorite weapon for those shoot first ask questions later

Like Its kind of the Best

[rocky plover]

it's aight, ever since the G3A3 and GA51 came out though, i think it lost it's spot a bit

[pallid thistle]

Best 7.62 weapons?

[sterile kiln]

Nah nah

Like the Best agresive style weapon

I wanna know

[rocky plover]

oh I see, because it's the loudest weapon?

[rocky plover]

G3A3 and GA51 in terms on lowest recoil for 7.62

[pallid thistle]

Alright thanks

[sterile kiln]

No, like man. I asked which one would be like

"toc, im scared shitless of that dude"

[buoyant falcon]

Which pistol good?

[gloomy vortex]

The AK usually does the job if you can handle the recoil

[unborn granite]

Hello yall

[sterile kiln]

The five seven if you want a bunch of ammo, the magnum if you re looking for incapacitations.

[gloomy vortex]

If you dont want recoil, mp7 is solid

[pallid thistle]

I love the Five Seven and USP 45 personally, both great pistols for hitting hard

[rocky plover]

never saw a '?' in your sentences hahah, sorry XD

[sterile kiln]

I want POWER. Like yk, a gun that scares you as soon as you hear of it

[gloomy vortex]

Yeah then definitely the AK

[sterile kiln]

My bad. Well im asking

[rocky plover]

well like I said SA58 is the loudest

[unborn granite]

How is everyone

[rocky plover]

so i guess that one XD

[gloomy vortex]

Any 7.62 without a suppressor is mean

[pallid thistle]

Very

[gloomy vortex]

I'd say AK the most because it also has the fastest fire rate of the 7.62 weapons

[rocky plover]

arn180 also is loud ngl

[pallid thistle]

Arn is loud for no reason

[rocky plover]

ikr xD

[pallid thistle]

But it's great

[sterile kiln]

We're good man hbu?

[gloomy vortex]

Is the ARN180 chambered in .300?

[pallid thistle]

Yes

[gloomy vortex]

Explains it ig

[rocky plover]

no. its the slowest one along with SA58

[sterile kiln]

And how about damage? Like you see your buddy's head just fly off. And like a rifle, no shotguns

[gloomy vortex]

Again I'd say anything of the 7.62's on damage

[unborn granite]

Im doing good

[rocky plover]

well it's 7.62 so, good.

[mellow bridge]

For the party crasher trophy do you have to actually arrest him? I thought I had done the challenge but maybe it didn’t count because I killed him? The mission objective still counted as me arresting him

[rocky plover]

you have to arrest him

and also before any civs are killed ofc

[vocal anchor]

in relapse map where can i find the bomb? i search for an hour but couldn't find it

is it the same place each time?

[rocky plover]

Yep same place, both on top floor close to the skybridge

One is on one side of the skybridge while the other is on the other side, you really can't miss them

[tired jungle]

Follow the wires

[stone bay]

Both bombs are on the 3rd floor

[vocal anchor]

couldn't find a single bomb

man i played 3 times each game was for 30m, really didn't find one

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

As the other guy said as well they are both on 3rd floor separated by skybridge..

You really can't miss them, with either spawn

[vocal anchor]

gonna check later

[rocky plover]

👍

[gritty nova]

Best pistol defo MkV

[mellow bridge]

For the rust belt .357 trophy can I still secure evidence and handcuff suspects/civilians?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[thick dome]

all the 762s have silly recoil except the g3 and sa58. and since ballistics aren't a thing in RoN, literally no reason to use the g3 over the sa58 except if you fanboy a g3.

on hard mode, no reason at all to use a 7.62. 300 is king of hard mode.

fortunately, no ARs are "useless" I game, just some are "better"

er sorry, not sa58, meant ga51

[mellow bridge]

Every time I use the side aim with a laser I never hit anything

[tired jungle]

Just don't give a fuck and keep using the 416

[jolly verge]

[thick dome]

I use the mcx for 556. g36 is so good, but it screws with my aim on other guns cause its recoil is so low.

wish other AR could use the sro optic. makes no sense at all that all optics arent usable.on all guns. they all mount on 1913 rail

[cedar radish]

What happens if one of my officers dies but I have an officer with the paramedic trait, should I just extradite immediately or I can continue the mission

^ For ironman mode

[jolly verge]

1 paramedic reduces chance for 1 officer to be KIA after mission from 50% to 0%

Useless for The Hermit

[rocky plover]

Useless trait. Period. Prevention is better than cure. 😂

[jolly verge]

Prevention = Alt + F4

[rocky plover]

Hahaha valid. Was gonna say armorer + nutritionist

[stable kernel]

Many traits would be less of a waste if all officers unlocked them at the same time instead of randomly choosing which one gets progress, plus the lesser impactful traits having less completions to unlock.

[rocky plover]

True

[jolly verge]

They also need rebalance them, like 4 Riot Control as example literally adds only 0.8 seconds to stun duration

[rocky plover]

Yeah ^^

And what about the 2 inactive traits lol, been inactive for so long

[stable kernel]

Lesser impactful traits like kicker and riot control are okay, but it can't be trying to compete for mission completions with the likes of negotiator.

Like if the worst tier were already unlocked with the officer, the next requires one, another requires two, etc.

[jolly verge]

EOD is useless and idk what Border Control actually does (can't test it atm)

[rocky plover]

Yeah they're useless anyways true

[mellow bridge]

I’ve done it twice now. The guide says you can’t that’s why I was asking. Starting to think it’s true

[tired jungle]

They didn't bother modeling a riser for the rifles that would need it to use the SRO

[rocky plover]

I still think balance would be better though I think, because with your logic (not saying it's bad by any means, don't get me wrong) many will just farm an easy map anyways.

[jolly verge]

99% of guides is full of misinformation, you can do and use most of stuff just fine

[stable kernel]

There is no need to allow farming previous missions for traits if the filler traits are already unlocked or only take one missions

[mellow bridge]

It’s just confusing since I’ve done it twice and have made my officers do everything. Only thing I can think of is if I can’t secure evidence or restrain

[stable kernel]

But you're not wrong entirely, people overoptimize any system

[tired jungle]

Skill issue

[jolly verge]

You did not got at least C grade, used lockpick or your swat ai have shields
https://youtu.be/NHx_I52OXdQ?si=V28zPgu2_m1pnRf3

[rocky plover]

True and true, I guess if it wouldn't let you spam the same mission for more than 2 times I think it's a good idea.

[mellow bridge]

My officers can’t use shields?

Well that would be why it’s not working.

[jolly verge]

Yes, does any guide even mention it?

[rocky plover]

I think BC is AI would be able to find civs on their own (hiding and roaming) with search and secure but yeah useless trait when you have stuff like armorer, nutritionist, veteran, negotiator, pacifier

[mellow bridge]

Haven’t really looked into that. Was just reading the trophy description which only mentions the player using a .357

Maybe it could have to do with armor and night vision?

[jolly verge]

Nope

Only one trophy in game require no armor/helmet

[cedar radish]

I see, was wondering cuz one of my officers incapacitated so I was wondering it the hermit still counts

[jolly verge]

It's will count for the dev watch tho

As for the hermit you have start all over again

[cedar radish]

Sigh

[gloomy vortex]

whats the soft objectives on rust belt? i for the love of god dont know what to look for

[mellow bridge]

The passports on the table of the ranch house kitchen and the boat in the back of the cave

[rocky plover]

The passports on the table before you enter the tunnels

[gloomy vortex]

riiight

alright i guess im redoing that mission again

[cedar radish]

Is there any way to avoid having to redo all missions on ironman mode cuz one of your officers or I myself dies

[rocky plover]

This^

[gloomy vortex]

i kinda wanna take the MK-V and just blast any of the bad guys with a .50 AE

but the recoil

[jolly verge]

It's fine for a gun that oneshot anyone on limbs hit with JHP ammo

[cedar radish]

Okay, so as soon either one of my officers or I die I should alt + f4

[jolly verge]

Yes

[cedar radish]

Gotcha, thanks

[rocky plover]

Yea or just don't die (try) 😂

[shy finch]

my mods refuse to work

[rocky plover]

Armorer + nutritionist + heavy armor with full coverage steel plates

[jolly verge]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1295497662208016468

[gloomy vortex]

oh my god

[shy finch]

thank you

[gloomy vortex]

i had a god damn morla officer on my team

EVERYONE WENT INTO CRISIS

[jolly verge]

[gloomy vortex]

AND ALL MY OTHER GUYS ARE ALREADY ANXIOUS

[rocky plover]

Morale trait barely does jack shit

[jolly verge]

Morale officer increases stress heal from arrests

That it

[rocky plover]

Arrest more suspects or just swap them around

[jolly verge]

Better than SBAGS but worse that Negotiator

[rocky plover]

Don't rely on stuff like morale, sbags and shit

[static root]

Is the nightforce Atacr optic good?

[gloomy vortex]

fair but i fucking hate it anyway

[rocky plover]

Rn it's eh... Hopefully with next update it will function as a true LPVO

(It doesn't have variable zoom rn)

[jolly verge]

Just get 2 Negotiators

[static root]

Is there anyway to get a scope that has the exact lines and circles and dot like the atacr without the magnification? I love sights that cover a lot of the screen without me having to lower FOV to make it bigger and that dot with the lines and circles but i despise the magnification

[gloomy vortex]

lol wtf

[rocky plover]

This is what I mean by balance before lmao

[spring iron]

Does PS5 supports MNK ?

[rocky plover]

Literally 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers best shit for S ranks

Pacifiers backup when negotiator doesn't work lol

[gloomy vortex]

thats so broken

[jolly verge]

M32A1 too

[rocky plover]

And that yeah ☕

[static root]

Anyone?

[tired jungle]

I'll say this once

If you are doing S tier runs, you're anti fun

[rocky plover]

Check out mods cos nothing in vanilla like that rn

[static root]

I have and i found nothing

[rocky plover]

Well I agree S ranks are unrealistic but I like the challenge 🙁

[static root]

I found some scopes but they dont show how the sight thingy looks in the pictures

And its 12 pm i aint got time to test it out

[rocky plover]

Damn, hopefully next update though the atacr should function like a true LPVO and it will have 1x along with 2x,3x etc....

[static root]

Hopefully

[rocky plover]

So it will be what you want on 1x zoom basically

[static root]

Yep

Is there a suggestion channel to suggest that or is it getting added already

Because i like none of the other scopes

[rocky plover]

It should be added with the multi attachments system

[static root]

And thats next update right?

[rocky plover]

Yea, god knows when though

[static root]

About 10 years dw

[rocky plover]

😂

[mellow bridge]

Do you die immediately if you shoot a surrendering person? Hypothetical

[cedar radish]

I already prepped everything, issue is I dont like dying when im abt to complete it

[quasi coral]

As long as they are not fully surrendered yet

[cedar radish]

Big waste of time and it pisses me off

[rocky plover]

Not if you kill your teammates before they do if that's what you mean lol

[rocky plover]

True

[cedar radish]

Dang

I better start getting 2 negotiators

That's gonna be extremely useful

[static root]

Google is saying late 2025 or early 2026 but who knows

[rocky plover]

Just curious you don't like 510c, sro, etc?

[jolly verge]

Your health drops to 1 and swat ai shoot you on sight

[static root]

Nope, the only scope i sort of like is the atacr but i despise it due to the permanent 12x magnifier

[rocky plover]

Ye hopefully q1 2026

[static root]

I just put on a random scope and press O and put my gun sideways and use a laser

[rocky plover]

Don't think it's on 12x but yeah I get what you mean cos its not on 1x either

[static root]

Works like a charm

I heard its on 12x from a guy

Couldve been wrong tho

[gloomy vortex]

oh

my god. I MISSED ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE

[rocky plover]

Could be idk

[gloomy vortex]

i'll try another time

[static root]

Never vote for yes, it automatically ends once you have everything

[rocky plover]

The elcan spectre seems to be less magnified if it makes you feel any better

[jolly verge]

It's also gives 20% recoil reduction

[gloomy vortex]

i know it does i just...thought it didnt do it this time, idk why

[tired jungle]

It's an ugly ass scope tbh

[gloomy vortex]

just go with irons :>

[static root]

Fuh naw

[rocky plover]

Negotiator, pacifier, nutritionist, armorer, (veteran not bad as well) best traits, ignore all others

[rocky plover]

Agree, I run 510c mostly

[jolly verge]

Intimidator was good too before they nerfed taser

[rocky plover]

Ye, I didn't like it that much though still when the others exist

Because it's kinda starts good and falls short

[gloomy vortex]

I love irons over scopes just because i see everything

[rocky plover]

And not good on maps where they start stressed

[tired jungle]

They should make the gun transparent when aiming with irons

[shy finch]

I keep getting killed by the ai running through doors with traps

[gloomy vortex]

epic embed

[gloomy vortex]

i shall enjoy my stickers for now..

[static root]

I hate it when i ask my homeboy to get on ready or not and says hes mf busy…

Shit hurts my heart man

[shy finch]

I hate when I ask my imaginary friends to play ready or not and they ghost me

My friend who had the game fried his pc 💀

[static root]

Lmaooo

[gloomy vortex]

i LOVE going loud to stress the fuck out of the suspects to let them know impending doom is coming ❤️

[static root]

Its easy to find friends on RON i made another friend today talking about mods lmao

Gave me a speed mod now im running around

[shy finch]

See every time I speak in a chat it dies or I join a bunch of French people

I can’t tell which is worse

[gloomy vortex]

im gonna go play Greased Palms, go in loud and die

[gloomy vortex]

Ga51, No Scope, SFMB Brake, Angle grip and laser pointer lets goo

[sterile isle]

Who wants to play right now? I’m low-key bored.

Chat I just got a whole new JBL speaker and it looks so good

[rocky plover]

Take th grip or vertical grip

[shy finch]

I’m gonna annihilate myself if I have to start this mission once more

[jolly verge]

Angled grip

[sterile isle]

Anyone wanna run a squad?

[gloomy vortex]

I've gotten used to the recoil already

[rocky plover]

My exact reaction lmao

[gloomy vortex]

i fear if i swap i will throw

[shy finch]

What servers you on

[sterile isle]

EST

[jolly verge]

It's fine, you lose only 10%

[shy finch]

Ah you’re gonna die of lag with me

[sterile isle]

Idc

[gloomy vortex]

I'll take the TH grip anyway, why not

[sterile isle]

Bro, my PC is so good

[gloomy vortex]

8 mags of AP

[shy finch]

I mean if you’re down I’m down

[gloomy vortex]

gotta make it count

[rocky plover]

Lol

[jolly verge]

JHP*

[rocky plover]

A bit too much innit

[gloomy vortex]

they have armor on greased palms no?

[rocky plover]

And they're unarmoured

On GP

So ye JHP as aspid said

[gloomy vortex]

oh well then, JHP it is

[jolly verge]

No and you can use JHP on 23 missions of 26

[rocky plover]

^

(With .300blk and 7.62)

[gloomy vortex]

i dont have the brains to account for armor or no armor so i go with the safer option of AP

but since they dont have any on GP i might aswell go with JHP

[shy finch]

Gimme 5 and I’m down to play

[rocky plover]

You only need to remember these 3 maps for AP rounds, leviathan , elephant , sins of the father

[sterile isle]

Bet

[shy finch]

I don’t promise I’m good

I’m running random things and hoping for the best

[static root]

Is the SA-58 valid guys

I like to kill them

[shy finch]

I sent you my friend code

[rocky plover]

It's aight but there's better choices imo

[static root]

Whats the best one

[jolly verge]

If you like it but other guns like GA51 or G3A3 have 50% less base recoil

[rocky plover]

Ga51 for 7.62

Arn for .300blkout

[cedar radish]

So far I got: Nutritionist, Armorer, Intimidator, and Veteran

[wheat basin]

is there anyway to improve search and secure for some reason mine doesnt work like it KINDA works

[jolly verge]

It's working only if there surrendered suspect/civilians

[static root]

Recoil aint a problem, i just wanna be an agressive officer

And its doing the job for me

[rocky plover]

Nice if you have another veteran swap him instead of intimidator but it's good

[wheat basin]

Im talking about evidence

[gloomy vortex]

I might or might not have domed a civilian.

[cedar radish]

Got breachers, don't have additional veterans

[rocky plover]

Ah ok, negotiator and pacifiers also good

[wheat basin]

we didnt need this information brochacho

[gloomy vortex]

he had it coming ngl

[wheat basin]

What did he do to deserve it 🙁

:0

[gloomy vortex]

well he did run around a truck and into the arms of a Suspect who decided to take him hostage the moment i opened fire

[wheat basin]

Lol

is elephant a hard mission or nah?

[static root]

If im just looking to go full agressive is the SA58 good?

[gloomy vortex]

it is hard yes