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[solemn patio]

I decided against getting an image but yk

[valid raven]

My games crashing with no error

[solemn patio]

The thing that goes in when you turn the handle

[valid raven]

That is called the bolt

[zenith forum]

NO IT IS NOT

🙂

[valid raven]

The part that goes into the doorframe

[zenith forum]

ah

i just spawned in

the discord

[valid raven]

Oh i can’t post images in here

Everything i find online says that is what the thing that goes into the doorframe when you turn the lock closed

[thin stone]

how come when I join my friends and we complete all missions on S, i dont get any of those ratings, only the host does?

seems kinda stupid if that's intended...
Ruins multiplayer and team play, since everyone will only want to do it solo now

[narrow geode]

I dont think its intended
Last time I played multiplayer I did get the S ranks
Maybe they changed it or something idk

[mellow bridge]

What does everyone think is the worst map

[fiery vortex]

For me it’s hospital, for people probably either the DLC 3 letter triad of the mail centre mission with the FISA agent

I don’t like hospital because it’s large, dark and has verticality to it

People I’d say dislike the two missions I mentioned because lots of enemies, lots of places to be shot at, and relatively large. Enemies iirc in both have rifles

[tired jungle]

Hospital is like one of the few missions that are somewhat realistic

I don't understand why anyone would dislike challenge either

[tired jungle]

The university

[fiery vortex]

It’s not that it’s realistic. It just doesn’t click with my playstyle

When I see this style of game I imagine smaller locations with more volatile people, not armed and disciplined terrorists taking over a hospital and disqusing themselves as staff.

Megabytes, 4Y, 2 of the maps added in most suenos stories, to an extent also the mail centre mission hit those for me.

[wispy python]

is solo narcos hard mode, getting also an S rank really that hard? this is my 15th attempt
i run beanbang
7 flashbang
light armor with ceramic

[rocky plover]

It is a little bit annoying because of the long sight lines depending where they spawn especially when a lot spawn outside much more than inside, but it can be done. I had almost the same loadout as you when I did it

[whole plume]

Greased Balls

Thats what I call it, its that bad

Buy Cheap Buy Twice is underhated too

[wispy python]

i also tried to do "silently" but that didnt work either

[frank kettle]

Any map which wildly varies in difficulty depending on RNG so for me that would be Elephant and Hunger Strike.

[rocky plover]

Yeah kinda hard to do when all the less lethal weapons count as gunshot

[frank kettle]

Elephant because the bombs always spawn in the most obscure corners of the map, and Hunger Strike because all the NPCs seem to spawn close together which makes it hard to clear out.

Especially hard to do non lethal.

At least in my experience. I don't think it's supposed to be that hard. I just have bad luck.

[wispy python]

nah elephant is bad because how fast they kill the civilians

[rocky plover]

If you have the m32a1 flash launcher can try using that if you're struggling with beanbag

[wispy python]

you get atleast 1-2 minutes to stop them before they shoot/kill a civi

[rocky plover]

Some maps can be annoying

[wispy python]

i liked the flash launcher but the range is kinda low

or maybe am not aiming it right

[rocky plover]

Didn't have problems when I tried it on maps like port so range shouldn't be an issue I think

[jolly verge]

10m AoE radius is a lot but if something blocks between blast and suspect it's won't affect them

[wispy python]

oh thats what happening

[frank kettle]

Oddly enough suspects killing civs wasn't a huge problem for me on Elephant.

Now on Relapse? That's a different story. In fact, the reason why I don't have an A rating on that mission is because I tried to get a suspect to surrender, he did not, instead, he ran down the hallway, grabbed a civ, then immediately shot them.

Or no, that was on Hide and Seek.

I got a D on that mission because I only found 3 of the 5 crates even after circling the map for five minutes after apprehending all the suspects.

[wispy python]

hide and seek was also a torture to me

[rocky plover]

Yea a bit annoying solo to keep up with multiple suspects at a time

[wispy python]

i will NOT do the main missions with hard mode difficulty AGAIN

[rocky plover]

Hardest S on hard mode was 3 letter triad for me

Took me days

[wispy python]

yeah that mission looks... torture too

im starting to give up on the S ranks and start blasting the suspects

[rocky plover]

I couldn't even use the m32a1 there cos I wouldn't have enough ammo for it fucking 28 suspects lol

So I had to do it with beanbag which was hard especially on that map

[wispy python]

thats crazy

[rocky plover]

Yeah wanted to pull my hair out for that one, but it was the only 1 left that I needed for S on hard so I had to do it! 🤣

[frank kettle]

Hey, are the matchmaking servers still down?

Or is it just that nobody is playing?

[wispy python]

nah there is lots of people playing

[frank kettle]

Strange.

Maybe they're all playing on Hard mode.

Well, I'm searching for everything and it still says there aren't any game.

[wispy python]

try doing worldwide

also a strange question
what would be the loudest gun in the game?

[jolly verge]

SA-58, but range wise it's always 20m for any gun

[amber dock]

Hello

[simple light]

Guys do I get cosmetics in commander mode after I get them in quick play

[jolly verge]

Yes, you can use them in every mode

[frank kettle]

Tried that. Still nothing.

I'll mess around a bit more.

I'm literally searching for any game in every region and it still says there aren't any lobbies.

[pallid thistle]

Suggestions for a team of 3 idiots trying to do greased palms on hard mode

[frank kettle]

Here, I turned on cross play and modded servers. Maybe that'll help.

[frank kettle]

S rank or just complete?

[pallid thistle]

Just desperately trying to complete it

[wispy python]

spam flashbang launcher (dont do that)

[pallid thistle]

Lmao

[frank kettle]

I must admit, I struggled with that one too and still haven't really got a strategy down, but I'd recommend making liberal use of flashbangs whenever clearing a room that you're even slightly unsure if you can clear.

[pallid thistle]

I did try my best with my mates to use flashbangs for the rooms

[frank kettle]

There are a lot of rooms with lots of angles, so having a flashbang clear them for you helps.

[pallid thistle]

Typically we fail in the open spaces

Dying from insane angles

[frank kettle]

Like the parking lot?

[pallid thistle]

Parking lot, inside at longer distances

[frank kettle]

As for the parking lot, quickly clearing it and the other outside areas can make clearing the sorting building easier, but since it has a lot of openings into the sorting building, that can be a double edged sword.

As for the sorting building itself, sometimes the catwalks can give you angles on particularly dug-in suspects.

Other than that, there's not much else I can recommend. Greased Palms is a hard one.

[pallid thistle]

Alright thanks for everything

[maiden sequoia]

shoot da balls

Real note wedges, you only need 6

From spawn (facing North) go main, clear the reception, left door and right door and bathroom's. Then the 1 door that leads to the warehouse hall (with the 3 doors 2 to warehouse, 1 to small loading) check if all 3 door are open, if both warehouse doors are open, just wedge that single door that your checking. If none of the warehouse doors are open, clear that hallway, wedge both warehouse doors and double back to clear the small sorting on the East side. I gotta work so I'll continue my strat a bit later

[frank kettle]

Well, it's finding lobbies now. But now I can't connect to the host.

[open bobcat]

Why do non of the "use blah blah Loudout" trophies like toxic fumes not work

[simple light]

Step 1.
Get out of the mission and do something more calm

[covert aurora]

alright Butters calm down.

[simple light]

I mean he’s not wrong

[covert aurora]

(bonus points for series refrence)

[simple light]

What guns should I use for realistic LAPD remake

[upbeat shore]

Pepperspray-only run

[maiden sequoia]

sniper elite 5

[rocky plover]

Back when it was super op, sure. Now? Hell nah. 🤣

[covert aurora]

🤣

[simple light]

I think I’ll just run full mcx

Because it’s tuff

[brazen blade]

does anyone know how to change how your games boot mode. cause i cant get out of safe mode and i am trying to play with some one that has mods

[open bobcat]

Hello Linch

[rocky plover]

Right click on game in steam library, properties, launch option

[open bobcat]

Any1 know why this is?

[open bobcat]

I spent like 20m doing the mission and it js doesn't pop

[jolly verge]

Lockpick, shields in swat ai loadout or something else you used that invalidates the run

[dreamy plinth]

Just finished hide and seek and uh... what the fuck

[frank kettle]

Just run your preferred AR-15 variant.

Most American police departments run some kind of AR platform weapon.

[brazen blade]

thank yall so much

[frank kettle]

And as for pistol, use the G19 or P250.

[open bobcat]

I give them the same lodout as required and u didn't use lock picks I let the Ai do it does that invalidate?

[edgy linden]

Pepper spray ironman hardcore

[open bobcat]

Js described my police lodout

[open bobcat]

I did my iron-man worrying the whole time I was not calm 😭✌️

[open bobcat]

Didn't loose an officer and got the watch tho 🔥

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can use anything but shields. Without a clip I can't tell what you did wrong

[open bobcat]

Alr thanks tho I'll try again w ur instructions eventually

[open bobcat]

Anything else to add?

[jolly verge]

You can give swat ai 7.62x51 JHP and let them kill everyone

[open bobcat]

Dam I didn't know this I give them the exact same lodout and we cleared all the rooms 1 by 1, can I have attachments as well? 😭✌️

Cus i kinda want a torch

[simple light]

Yeah I decided to run hk416 and g19

Also mpx n benelli

[jolly verge]

Yes but you can just use nvg

[open bobcat]

I did the 90s police fit but switches the shirt for the uhh can't remenber basic police looking one used a normal vest that says police made it the 1 above stab proof ran AR and Glock and then js Pepper spray and taser no helmet as well the have my ai a mix of gadgets like shield, ram and breaching but they can't use it I also ran shotguns w my ai for a few

[open bobcat]

Nice 1 👍

[pallid thistle]

Lol

[pallid thistle]

Appreciate it

[simple light]

Greased palms comes from the depths of hell

[pallid thistle]

I know

Spent like 3 hours and still couldn't do it

Me and my 2 mates

[simple light]

I do RoN solo I can imagine how horribly it would go with my friends since they don’t know how to play milsim type stuff💔

[covert aurora]

heyo! How are you?

[maiden sequoia]

There's more like double backing and clearing small loading, open, pellets, big loading, 2f and the rest of the warehouse

Also, try baiting suspects in "safe areas"

[pallid thistle]

Yeah I do my best with that

[crude prism]

If you get someone to surrender, using the command menu to make them crawl to you is the best way to get safe arrests, though time consuming as shit

[maiden sequoia]

That and telling civilians to "go to exit" but I recommend checking after clearing the mission out

[maiden sequoia]

Just shoot a suspect in the warehouse and camp the door for like 3min

[pallid thistle]

Might be a good idea

Suppressor or nah?

[blissful bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/yearbook-picture-awkward-smile-big-smile-nerd-smile-gif-8512645515076356383

[pallid thistle]

I'm keeping my muzzle break then

[open bobcat]

Good u?

[brazen blade]

is anyone having problems with epic

[covert aurora]

I am good thanks, chillin

[vivid sand]

servers are down

supposedly

[maiden sequoia]

Mainly, every warehouse door, just peek and either pop the suspect or send the civi to the exit. After you finish clearing outside in big loading, I suggest double backing to warehouse hallway and go to 2F, clear that and you can use the long catwalk as a invisible wall to see who's below (kinda bugged right now so the rails are just 1 big invisible wall but you can still throw flash bangs through the railing) and for the rest of the facility if you haven't brought order to chaos just take it slow and split in 2 groups. One takes left sorting and the other right

[pallid thistle]

Alright thanks for the help 🙏

[maiden sequoia]

I had it easier since I was using ai as bait

[pallid thistle]

I tried with the ai as bait and it still did not work well for me

[maiden sequoia]

I've learnt you can send ai "over there" and they react faster and absolutely slam the suspects

[idle hazel]

yo

[maiden sequoia]

I feel like they could make more missions but in chapters

The "buyers" on the laptops on port could be the "boss" or just last mission of each chapter

And for those who know a certain group could be the ones at the top of the food chain

[frank kettle]

Oh, apparently you can't send gifs here.

[frank kettle]

Must have been the wind.

[maiden sequoia]

I am taking about the ones who ask to close the container

[cedar mulch]

Evidently, MLO is not the sole ultimate antagonist. Void took this into consideration when altering the settings.

[maiden sequoia]

MLO?

[frank kettle]

Oh, ok. Yeah that makes more sense.

[maiden sequoia]

What group where you thinking about

[frank kettle]

I poke around lots of corners of the internet. Things get wild.

Everything nowadays is steeped in hidden meaning.

Can't ever be sure if what someone writes means what it says at face value.

But as Camera-D said, the MLO is supposed to be that bigger player.

[cedar mulch]

VOID has revised its internal settings; they currently employ dual or multi-threaded narratives. LL and Spider are clearly being developed as the ultimate antagonists for the other two storylines.

As for The Hand and other organisations, they may serve more as supplementary elements to the plot. The UPF's role remains unclear for the time being.

[frank kettle]

Yeah, and given the way they write mini arcs, they can always write another big bad.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they work in the CIA MK-Ultra stuff in there somewhere.

Well, further develop that plot point.

[maiden sequoia]

Well that's kinda the theory around judge, why he never needs therapy and how he always comes back

[tired blade]

GUYS

I FINALLY S TIERED GREASED PALMS

[lost inlet]

congrats.

now do the same on hard.

[tired blade]

i did it on hard sir

[lost inlet]

congrats again, pork hoken awaits.

[silver olive]

im convinced the development of greased palms was personally overseen by satan himself

i havent even gotten past a C 💔

[tired blade]

hide and seek is my favorite mission

[tired blade]

should i invite my friend whos brand new to ready or not and have him play greased palms w me for the first time

[silver olive]

absolutely

[tired blade]

easy, standard, or hard

[silver olive]

suffering on greased palms is a rite of passage for the RON player

[silver olive]

standard

these suspects are loud as hell 😭 acting like they got shot

[tired blade]

he only olayed the Thank You, Come Again mission

[tired blade]

how do i convince him to ready up for greased palms

[silver olive]

tbh ive got no idea

[tired blade]

i told him its the rasiest mission, and he believed me

[silver olive]

lmao

i try to steer clear of missions with large, open maps because i wont be able to tell whats happening at ALL

feels like im getting shot by ghosts

[tired blade]

he ragequit after the 3rd attempt

[silver olive]

LMAO i understand him

i tried giving this suspect a chance to surrender and he IMMEDIATELY blew up
this is why the ROE are for cowards

shoot on sight or die

[lost inlet]

the racist mission…

[silver olive]

well thats true too

[tired blade]

thats why i have a mod that makes the ROE very relaxed

[silver olive]

for some reason it just came relaxed for me

i shoot on sight and toc just doesnt gaf

just discovered that you can, in fact, shoot the wounded guard at the entrance of the school on Elephant

[tired blade]

why would u do that

[silver olive]

curiosity

besides, my bodycam has been off for decades

TOC wont know

[tired blade]

the other teammates behind u watching:

[silver olive]

well yeah they shot me but at least i wont go to prison when im dead

[silver olive]

im the best cop ever

[tired blade]

i just magdump anyone w a gun using a m16

[silver olive]

i use the sa-58

more often than not one-taps

[tired blade]

i personally rather the mk17

@silver olive my vietnam setup

[silver olive]

i saw lol

if the LMG was available for use in the base game it would be so peak

[tired blade]

mmm m60

[wooden bolt]

good job thugalicious

i did it yesterday

[tired blade]

i did it on hard mode 💔

[wooden bolt]

i know

i wasn’t saying u didn’t broskalowkey

[tired blade]

that was torture

[subtle palm]

FEMALE OPERATORS NEXT UPDATE PLEASEE

Hailey Upton specifically aswell

[wooden bolt]

atp just play COD

[subtle palm]

Eh no?

Why would I play cod 😭

[wooden bolt]

because they have females in their game

[subtle palm]

Yeah but it’s just not as good as Ron, female officers are just cool to me idk

[vale needle]

the nicest cops i met were woman, it was probably because most of my run ins with them i was really young so yeah i wouldn’t mind a female option

[surreal pelican]

Time for 3 Letter Triad Hard S

[tired blade]

fucc nah

[surreal pelican]

Lul

[surreal pelican]

I did Main Entrance

Best entrance imho

Then just wedge all the doors that and have one team guard the weapon cache at main entrance while you and the others go clear the pool area before going back up and clearing with your element

[tired blade]

aw man i cant go in gun ablazing w a m16

[surreal pelican]

I mean the method I used above also worked for lethal

Best to control the flow of doors and enemies there, there’s also a fuckton of holes they can squeeze thru

[tired blade]

how do i explain greased palms to a friend who knows nothing about RoN

[surreal pelican]

Tell him it’s D Day

[tired blade]

i told him it was cardboard vietnam, he still doesnt understand

[surreal pelican]

LOL

[wind crow]

i know this is a random question but whats the song thats played in the station

[surreal pelican]

No idea

[tired blade]

use shazam

[maiden sequoia]

Someone mentioned that the contacts in elephant always spawn in the same place

[wooden bolt]

police theme

or noir vs foreboding bass

[wind crow]

can i send a clip in dms

[wooden bolt]

maybe

[rocky plover]

😂

[wind crow]

check dms

[signal patrol]

It would be hard to put female police officers in the game because of modeling I heard, but it would be nice if thats happening

[maiden sequoia]

Modelling? have you played neon tomb

[signal patrol]

They need to hire new VA and do all their lines over again too

And their clothing must be changed based on their body form I think

[wooden bolt]

good god..

[maiden sequoia]

I've died more times on standard on that map than I have on greased palms on hard

[wooden bolt]

neon tomb was always ez to me

[maiden sequoia]

Easy but distractive

[whole plume]

Ah you see I always find it hard but I am never distracted

I have a job to do and crazy Arabs to kill after all

[whole crag]

Is it ez to s rank?

[feral obsidian]

hello

does anyone have tips on clearing stairwells?

[whole crag]

Map specificly?

Or in general?

[feral obsidian]

in general

[lucid flame]

Normally me and my squad tends to have the shield up front with someone with flash launcher to launch at the suspects

[feral obsidian]

when i get to stairwells i dont know what to do and i get punished

[whole crag]

If you know there is a suspect throw a flash and go up

[whole crag]

Yeah thats sums it up

[whole crag]

Dont go first

[feral obsidian]

what if i got voted to be pointman so i have to

[whole crag]

Your playing online?

[feral obsidian]

yes

[lucid flame]

Does anyone have a shield?

[feral obsidian]

sometimes

but they usually are never using it

[whole crag]

If you are the pointman why dont you take the shield?

[feral obsidian]

dont know how to equip one

[whole crag]

You pc?

[feral obsidian]

ye

[whole crag]

Idk the pc controls

Just look it up on google or smth

[feral obsidian]

sure

[lucid flame]

In the load out menu, you can switch out the defaulted mirror gun with other gadgets, the shield (I feel) should always be used by the point man

[whole crag]

I think he doesnt know how to equip in game i think

Like take the shield out

[lucid flame]

Should be 5 on keyboard

[feral obsidian]

i didnt know where it was found in the armoury menu

[whole crag]

Oh

[feral obsidian]

but now i do, thanks

[lucid flame]

No problem

[whole plume]

God damit clearing that large area on Greased Palms is hard

I am trying, but doing it S rank makes it no easier

[gritty nova]

I’m pretty sure you have to click 5

[feral obsidian]

is there any way i can kick people from games as host

[signal patrol]

Who would win?
Task Force 141 or DPLATOON?

[whole plume]

Ooh, intresting question

Probably TF141 cause they got plot armour and actually smart AI

[signal patrol]

Yes

I think Roach would be enough

[mighty hemlock]

Depends if D platoon has real players or AI

[whole plume]

How do you get the fool achievement?

(Be killed by a Civ)

[wind gyro]

theres a civ on vally of the dolls somewhere on the left when you enter thru the main door she will pull out a knife

[whole plume]

Is there any difficulty minimum to do it?

[wind gyro]

other than that theres a lot of people with knifes in stolen valor but those are suspects i believe

[wind gyro]

standard is your best choice

[whole plume]

Fair, okay will get rhat done now

[rocky plover]

Amos voll's wife is the easiest to get that imo

[whole plume]

She keeps spawning arrested

Fuck me 😠

[rocky plover]

Wtf, she's usually a bit hostile and just punches you to death if you don't tell her to comply

[whole plume]

No I meant like she keeps spawning on the start already arrested

[rocky plover]

Yea I understood what you meant, still weird though

She usually tries to run away

[wind gyro]

lemme see

shes where i said right

[rocky plover]

Most of the time yeah she spawns in that little closet near the bathroom (1st room)

[whole plume]

Yeah auto arrested too

Finally I got it

Killed all the people on the top and let her hit me a bunch

[rocky plover]

Nice

[rocky plover]

That's weird unless you on commander mode I guess with something like negotiator or something similar?

[wind gyro]

its just a bug

[whole plume]

Quick Play, so no

It auto arrests bugged out people most of the time

[rocky plover]

Ah I see

Ye had that happen but very rare

[whole plume]

Like 3/4 times I restarted she was already arrested

Now on 39/56 achievements, my lucky number 🙂

[wind gyro]

i have 37 and havent went achievement hunting at all

[whole plume]

Im only hunting cause we dont have mods on console and I am bored lol

I would go back to ARMA Reforger but its kinda fucked atm

[wind gyro]

does anyone use nvidia overlay on ron and can confirm that clipping is disabled for ron

only recordings work

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck, what ya left with?

[whole plume]

Mostly get all S ranks and the Iron-man stuff

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck man

U can try to do ironman with S rank achievement too

I ran all flash launchers, 2x pacifier, 1x negotiator and 1x armourer

[torn socket]

have u finished the game yet? @surreal pelican

100%

[open mason]

Anyone else run the .357 and the 50AE?

[jolly verge]

50AE yeah, .357 is just bad

[simple light]

I was about to finish the sins of the father for b and I killed the last civilian by accident

[quasi coral]

His sins finally caught upt oh im

[simple light]

Tbh it wasn’t even my fault who just stands when there’s a shooting between an officer and 2 suspects

[worthy harbor]

Why are the DLCs so much cheaper on steam than console

[surreal pelican]

Ye

[whole crag]

Is Valley of the Dolls hard to S Rank?

[torn socket]

doing it rn xd

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck

[torn socket]

unauthorised use of force, fml

[gritty nova]

Is there a difference between dx 11 and dx 12?

[rocky plover]

depends on your hardware

DX11 was better on my old hardware but then upgraded and DX12 was better with my new hardware, so just gotta test them both

[jolly verge]

Much better CPU performance and PSO pre compilation on dx12

[gritty nova]

I think my "preferred" one is dx12, but I have to run dx 11 so I can play the vr mod

And I just don't know if it's worth it to change the launch option every time I want to play vr

[rocky plover]

well usually DX12 has better performance (keyword usually though), while DX11 is more stable at the cost of less performance

[stone bay]

does relapse crash occasionally for anyone else? it’s like a 1/5 chance that it’ll just randomly crash. ive tried both on console and pc

[copper cypress]

If a suspect raises a gun before his stress level is full, would you guys shoot him?

Some suspects, after raising their guns, would hesitate again because of yelling.

Then they gently put the gun down.

[whole crag]

I hate neon tomb just cus quadamah, i always kill him or my ai does and if you kill him its like objective failed and then the whole mission is fked, got any tips?

[rocky plover]

1. incapacitate then restrain him, instead of killing him
2. use utilities such as flashbangs, stingers, taser etc..

[whole crag]

I know but idk i do that and he still ends up dying.

• how should i incapacitate him? Aim in specific areas?

[rocky plover]

fire less shots dont full auto him, usually 2 shots should do, but it depends on the weapon's caliber

[whole crag]

Ah alr, the problem is the ai tho

[rocky plover]

yea true, I avoid playing with AI

[whole crag]

So you just go solo

[rocky plover]

yea either that or multiplayer

[whole crag]

When I play mp most of the guys got no mic or they just troll and shoot civs

[rocky plover]

ye that's annoying, MP can be hit or miss xD

[whole crag]

Thats true

[whole crag]

What you think abt giving all ai non lethal and only I go with Lethal.

[rocky plover]

you can but at that point I would just use less lethal myself as well xD

[radiant bane]

Hey guys the multi attachment update shouldn't be released already?

[rocky plover]

[upbeat shore]

Why should it?

[wind gyro]

fuh no

[radiant bane]

because they said in the development briefing that it will be out in 4 weeks

[upbeat shore]

Where?

[wind gyro]

prove it

[radiant bane]

steam

[upbeat shore]

No it doesnt.

[upbeat shore]

The only thing that even contains the word "week" is:

These development briefings are now going to be on a by-announcement basis rather than a fixed schedule. This means sometimes it will take longer between briefs than our previous 4-week schedule and that sometimes we might make dev brief posts on a quicker schedule if necessary.

[radiant bane]

yep my bad

[wind gyro]

i was gonna send that

[upbeat shore]

[radiant bane]

😔

[wind gyro]

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-gif-18747122

[wind gyro]

you cant just pick it up

[upbeat shore]

I can. I have

[past mulch]

Are you able to restart your campaign on ron? Im trying to get that cool watch that you have to not die at all during the whole campaign to get and one of my squad died so i have to restart.

[wind gyro]

thats has to be done in ironnman mode + you can just start a new save

[past mulch]

so. what is iron man mode and how do i start a new save

[wind gyro]

you click commander mode

in singleplayer tab of course

ironman = if you die your save is gone

[past mulch]

ohh i forgot that commander mode was campaign. Thank you

[vale plume]

I can’t wait for the ultimate new update

Based on that I really want like a red dot or mini holo 45 degree sight

[wind gyro]

youll wait a bit

[vale plume]

I know wait , still that upgrade will be worth it

[stable kernel]

Can’t wait for 1.0 a year from now

[wind gyro]

jolly eman no way

[vale plume]

That’s an old update

[wind gyro]

no

[stable kernel]

Says who?

[vale plume]

Looks like it ?

[stable kernel]

Not me, therefore it’s false

[vale plume]

I did say it looks old

[wind gyro]

its not old

[stable kernel]

Does bro know?

[vale plume]

I remember there wasn’t even an update since this month

[stable kernel]

Collab coming soon

Stickers wouldn’t lie, would they?

Who would make a patently false sticker and post it as if it were true?

No one, that’s who

[signal patrol]

I think we will get the bug fix update before the multi attachment tool update

[finite sequoia]

Ok so my friend is on PC and he’s can’t join my Xbox lobby even after unsubscribing from his mods

[marsh lark]

Unlikely

Usually there is a big update, and 3 subsecutive bug patches

[blazing echo]

Does this game have deadzone settings on console?

[tall gate]

Yes it does

[night urchin]

Anyone's game been kinda laggy / slow on console? Me and a guy I'm buddies with on Xbox both noticed, wasn't like this a month or so ago

[wind gyro]

nothing has changed in the past month

[jolly verge]

@visual bear one of your officers incapacitated or you did not got at least C grade on Port Hokan

[bold oak]

What is the best loud-out for console

[wind gyro]

sr16

[mortal stone]

Guys I just went through hell getting all the dark waters dlc achievements, and now the getting your sea legs achievement is bugged😀

[bold oak]

Sr 16 and secondary is

[wind gyro]

then the 50 cal and 2-3 flashbangs with a breaching ram

light armor with steel plates

[simple light]

Neon tomb is way easier than I thought I got B tier first try

[bold oak]

What secondary ineed an name

[wind gyro]

lemme bring it up rq

[bold oak]

Tysm man

[mortal stone]

3rd time an achievement has been bugged for me

[rocky plover]

Mkv

[wind gyro]

yeah

[bold oak]

Ok tysm guys

[wind gyro]

theres like 3-6 achievements bugged

4-6 is better

[bold oak]

Hands up

[mortal stone]

Yeah I just checked some bug reports forum

I’m not trying to whine but this game just keeps disappointing me over and over I regret paying $60 for this buggy mess

I love the game but for how much it costs the state of the game is ridiculous

[torn socket]

whos knowledged at the game

[wind gyro]

me perchance

[torn socket]

im tryna get the dev watch and i did missions and i got the " officer... is now on leave following yourr previous michion due to an intervention

am i fucked

[wind gyro]

most of the bugs are on console such as floating bullet casings, progress getting reset, etc

[wind gyro]

youll get the watch but not the achievement

[torn socket]

i got the hwermit achievemnt but not the watch so im redoing it

so im fine? thye didnt resign

[wind gyro]

if they resign you wont get the achievement

[torn socket]

theyre in my roster so i think im safe. Did the "therapist" just tell them to take a 3 mission break? bc when i sent them to therrapy it was 1 mission

[rocky plover]

Therapy can take 1-3 missions depending on the severity of their wellbeing such as being in crisis, stressed etc..

[torn socket]

ye i sent them when they were like only anxious and now its 3 misions

im praying that i get the watch tho, theyre all in my roster 🤞

[wind gyro]

as long as they dont resign you will get the achievement

if they resign youll only get the watch

[torn socket]

i have one guy in crisis and therapyt is full, as long as i dont use him im fine?

[rocky plover]

Yea switch him for another guy

[wind gyro]

yeah

[rocky plover]

Skip him for a few missions

[torn socket]

whats the watches requirements, cokmpleting the levels with no deaths

and what else

[rocky plover]

No deaths no resign for watch afaik
No deaths no incaps for achievement

[wind gyro]

thats all i believe, the only difference from the achievement is in the achievement they cant resign

[torn socket]

brooooo omd i did the fuckass ironamn and now i need the watch, got the hermit and the world

so im doing 2 playthroughs fml

[rocky plover]

Also you need C+ for last mission

For the achievement though

I don't think it matters for watch

For watch you can go on casual

For achievement standard or higher

[torn socket]

i as thinking might as well do S tier while im at it

[rocky plover]

It would manage their therapy easier

[torn socket]

thats what i mean easier

[rocky plover]

Only on Elephant they would get stressed due to the nature of the mission even if you get S I believe

[still willow]

I hate the riot shield holy shit

[torn socket]

let it out

[still willow]

First of i think my pistol lowkey is just awful but what was annoying is the repeated shots on them and they do that wiggle like ooooo this hurts

[torn socket]

yea get the mkv the high cal is gonna insta cap them

[still willow]

That and the windscreen on the shield got blinded lowkey

I loved the uh fn509 with ap but it apparently doesn't matter

[torn socket]

9mm against armor is uhh yeah gl

now the mk-v with the 50AE

[still willow]

I like to think the caliber in this game are realistic

Then sometimes I realize I'm playing ron

[torn socket]

haha exactly

[still willow]

Just shot somebody 4 feet from me with the mk v pistol and they ate the furst one but second one incapacitates them what the fuck

[rocky plover]

Depends on armor and shot placement too for most 1 shot is enough but sometimes it can take 2

[vale plume]

It has so much rounds than Glock 19

[kind glen]

im new in ready or not how do i unlock other weapons?

[latent crescent]

you dont

all weapons are unlocked from the get go

[kind glen]

really?

[latent crescent]

yup

[kind glen]

oh thanks

[latent crescent]

no problem

if u need any loadout tips n tricks i can give u some

[kind glen]

yea i need some im pretty bad

[wind gyro]

sr16 jhp

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

2 more, 17 vs 15 XD

[vale plume]

They’re all unlocked

[vale plume]

I did say that

[rocky plover]

i know but 2 more rounds isn't "so much more" lol

[latent crescent]

how to make a loadout:
decide what your role is, are you the point man, middle of the stack or at the rear side?

point man:
Heavy armour, ceramic full plating, shotgun/AR, C2 and a some flashbangs

middle:
Light ceramic armour, AR/SMG (ur choice really), C2, wedge, and some flashbangs

rear: basically the same but heavy armour would help

always use JHP on guns that have 7.62
for .300blk JHP helps a lot for most maps but there are some outliers where the enemy's armour is too thick but even then a limb shot gets them down
use AP for every other caliber

[burnt stream]

yall think the 590 will ever be added for free on console

[vale plume]

509 has the click reload , Glock a slide reload

[rocky plover]

yea but what does that have to do with capacity

[vale plume]

Not only that , why did I say that

[latent crescent]

2026

[jolly verge]

Any other pistol without holster delay is better than 509

[rocky plover]

on next update they should give you the 590m, m32a1 launchers and MK-V

[frail pier]

3 new maps will be added where you have to go save civs and arrest suspects in the next DLC
#RoNTheory

[dapper granite]

No way we've never seen something like that before

Also last update we actually only got 2 new maps so we might not even get the 3 💀

[frail pier]

Shrinkflation

[rocky plover]

well they had to do the whole console port thing as well tbf

[dapper granite]

I really hope they have some more stuff for us they haven't revealed yet because it's looking pretty bleak rn

[frail pier]

A helicopter wasn't enough?

[dapper granite]

7 months have passed and they only have the multi attachment system so far to show for it

[rocky plover]

true

i hope it wont be just that

[dapper granite]

Which is cool but, to be fair you could code that in less than a week

[frail pier]

Damn go apply for Void then

They're hiring

[dapper granite]

I can't they're based in Ireland xD

I don't have a permit to travel outside the EU

[frail pier]

They have contractors from all over

Kam was literally in NY

[dapper granite]

Also speaking of the helicopter

Would be cool if we could use it in more missions in the base game

Port for example

Cuz I think having it for only 3 missions in the dlc is kind of a waste

[rocky plover]

true

[wind gyro]

https://voidinteractive.net/careers/ hmmm 🤔

[jolly verge]

Only if their code wasn't a complete mess. They keep breaking other stuff after fixing one thing

[wind gyro]

level designer

[rocky plover]

yea spaghetti code

🤣

[dapper granite]

Also I was asking earlier but I guess no-one saw. You guys told me you can view the helicopter's camera through the top right screen where you usually see headcams

Is that only in single player?

[rocky plover]

sadly yea

wish it worked in MP too

[dapper granite]

I was trying it on leviathan solo a couple days ago and nothing was happening :/

Sucks

[rocky plover]

yea idk why it works on SP but not MP - doesn't make much sense

[dapper granite]

There's many things in this game that don't make sense apparently xD

[rocky plover]

true xd

[wind gyro]

it worked in multiplayer for me

that was on the yacht tho

[dapper granite]

Did you have teammates with you or just playing alone

[wind gyro]

i had 2 other players

full vanilla

[dapper granite]

Maybe if you're alone the headcam system is just disabled?

[jolly verge]

Host or client?

[wind gyro]

me?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[wind gyro]

host

[jolly verge]

well that why

[wind gyro]

zamn

at least i got the achievement for seeing myself on the camera

[jolly verge]

Also only the host can cancel arrest

[dapper granite]

I was hosting too since I was solo tho

[wind gyro]

lmao

[rocky plover]

nah I can do that when I join public lobbies

but harder to do

[jolly verge]

Did they fix it

[wind gyro]

no

[rocky plover]

it's just harder to do and doesn't always let you cancel

kinda need to do it quick as client

it can be a mess though, because sometimes it almost takes the whole animation by the time it registers the cancel thing lmao

[dapper granite]

they should let you cancel it whenever imo

sometimes you get jumped when you're already late into the animation and you're just stuck again

[rocky plover]

true

[dapper granite]

alternatively they could also make it more interactive and maybe let me pull out my pistol to shoot back mid arrest

[blazing echo]

I just brought this game any tips?

[dapper granite]

also I got a pretty cool idea for a rework to the melee/bash

[wind gyro]

listen to toc in the start of every mission

keywords such as "suspects may have planted traps"

[blazing echo]

Toc?

[wind gyro]

the dispatcher that talks to you

[rocky plover]

i wish we can underthrow flashbangs and other utility

would be nice for close throws

[dapper granite]

kinda like in cs where if you hold right click it does the underthrow but left click throws it further

[rocky plover]

like in 6days in fallujah if you ever played that

[jolly verge]

We have underthrow it's just has the same trajectory as current throw now

[dapper granite]

anyway, make the melee do knockback and actually disorient suspects, so if someone runs into your face you can actually make some distance between you and him by shoving them back, kinda like the left 4 dead melee shove if you know what I mean

[rocky plover]

ye but I meant a working one, where overthrow would be the current version and underthrow would be to just let it go and roll slightly, throwing it without force basically

[dapper granite]

but since its now stronger it gives you a penalty for shoving civilians around

unless they punch you first because some do that

also would make the pepper spray more viable maybe

to force compliance on civilians without getting a penalty

[jolly verge]

You got penalty only when they surrendered

[simple light]

Kill every suspect on spider

[rocky plover]

getting very close to suspects should also make their gun go in low/high ready, like in gb, would make pistols more viable as well

[dapper granite]

currently yeah but I'm talking about my idea for a rework for the shove

[dapper granite]

yeah it's annoying when you're unable to do anything meanwhile they can just shoot you in the face

[simple light]

Stolen valor is actually such a fun map

[dapper granite]

with the new shove you could push them away and briefly stun them so you have a chance to do something

[jolly verge]

You can shoot back just fine if you crouch or swap to pistol/taser

[dapper granite]

when they're hugging you not even a pistol works for me

[rocky plover]

ye but doesn't really give you time to do that

when they're gun is not effected by it

[dapper granite]

idk I just feel like making the melee stronger and do knockback would be pretty cool and make it more useful in actual combat

also as an added bonuse make it have a chance to knock out the suspect kinda like when you blow them up with the C2

where if you arrest them they get up right after so they're not dead

[spring hearth]

Picture this you get call to a robbery at a gas station when you get in and clear the entrance you have two doors so you decide to choose right. You just made the biggest mistake as when you peeked a guy starts mag dumping at the door

[rocky plover]

i mean we already can slap their head while arresting them, so why not lol

[dapper granite]

mag dump them back but more

the american way

[spring hearth]

Yeah if you could even shoot them😭

[dapper granite]

with my proposed rework for the shove you could!

I'm telling you this is a great idea I should really apply to void

[spring hearth]

The one thing I hate is that like when you out in the open or something and someone randomly starts shooting at you. You don’t know wtf they at😭😭

But anyways

[rocky plover]

this bug where weapon attachments dissapearing is annoying (as client)

[spring hearth]

This game is not for the weak fr because if you’re not expecting anything you will get hella jumped scared

And get aim botted

[dapper granite]

sometimes I actually jump when I get shot at

I have 600 hours on this game and it still gets me sometimes xD

[spring hearth]

Same

[wind gyro]

wait

||im ready||

[spring hearth]

Yessir

[simple light]

Should I go from back alley or street on buy cheap buy twice

[tired jungle]

It doesn't matter, they're so close to each other

[simple light]

Alr

[dapper granite]

I just blew a hostage's head off with the MK-V 😭

I'm sorry I'm a little shaky

[simple light]

It took me 20 mins to find a civilian

[mortal stone]

And that’s a fair point but it still doesn’t make it any better and it’s not an excuse

[wind gyro]

that was a statement not an argument

[mortal stone]

Yeah I didn’t take it that way what I said was a statement too

[wind gyro]

😳

[atomic ore]

Anyone got any advice for someone playing solo? (Not commander mode)

[vocal anchor]

do npcs run out of ammo?

[dapper granite]

swat ai: no, unless you dont give them any mag for the weapon alltogether
suspect: yes, but they have A LOT

or at least they should be able to run out

[spring hearth]

I hate how fragile you and teammates can be when getting shot at

[vocal anchor]

oh so its a bad idea to wait until they run out of ammo

[dapper granite]

yeah it's not a very reliable strategy xD

[vocal anchor]

also is there a way to tell where the shots r coming from without headphones?

[dapper granite]

I once did it when doing the hanged man achievement, I ran out of flashes and taser so i just cowered in a corner with my shield until he ran out

[spring hearth]

Maybe

[dapper granite]

no idea tbh, I sometimes have trouble knowing where the shots are coming from even with headphones

[vocal anchor]

oh, btw how many ppl worked in the game? i found few bugs

[dapper granite]

oh yeah theres plenty of bugs

[wind gyro]

theres like 90 ish developers

[dapper granite]

next patch is coming with the next "big update", sometime early next year

[vocal anchor]

what they usually add with updates

[dapper granite]

maps, new guns and quality of life updates usually

[wind gyro]

every 6 months id say

oh nvm it wasnt a when question

[dapper granite]

so far all we know about the next update is a multi-attachment rail system and some updates to how scopes work

thats pretty much it

[vocal anchor]

oh, they must improve the swat ai

one annoying thing is that when we all behind a wall and i go around the wall a little bit to check and get shot they do nothing

[dapper granite]

yeah the swat ai is stupid atm

literally no survival instincts

I just play solo most of the time

[left dragon]

anyone having issues connecting to epic. cant play multiplayer

[gleaming heron]

Same

[left dragon]

seemed to have fixed itself

[dapper granite]

S ranked mirage at sea on hard

took a while because I couldn't find the prince guy fast enough and they kept killing civilians because of it

[sturdy sigil]

I just started having this issue and I’m unsure what’s going on

[dapper granite]

I nearly had 3 letter triad done on hard and my game crashed while arresting a guy

this has to be ragebait atp I dont even remember the last time I actually crashed

[sand agate]

Hi just got back to the game after many months , - is there a fix to the “authenticating connection to epic” or did I just waste my money

[oak field]

unfortunately Epic Services is down atm

[sturdy sigil]

There is an error at the moment yes

Just waiting for them to fix it

[sand agate]

Okie

[dapper granite]

alright got all levels S ranked on hard apart from 3 letter triad

[blazing echo]

This game graphics are pretty good

[dapper granite]

they used to be better

the shadows now look really blocky and weird

also since they moved to UE5 the skin texture looks kinda slimy and glossy idk whats that about

[blazing echo]

Is there a command to tell your squad to get the fuck out the way?

[frail pier]

Damn, wanted to come back to RoN after a long break and services are down for a peer to peer game... Classic

[spring hearth]

I mean it’s not the game itself it’s just epics down

[frail pier]

I understand this. But the game itself suffers when epic goes down.

for a peer to peer game.

[spring hearth]

Just wondering what you mean by peer to peer😭

[frail pier]

As in I host the server

we make up the multiplayer servers

I cant play without bots because of this. Tragic 🥀

[maiden sequoia]

Call me stupid or are there less suspects on missions on hard compared to standard?

[lament thunder]

[dapper granite]

just told my squad to flash and clear a room and 3 of them got wiped 😭

unlucky

[dense dragon]

do suspects have infinite mags

[dapper granite]

they shouldn't

they have a lot of them tho

[dense dragon]

wonder if anyone has dug into game files to see how many mags on average they have

[dim leaf]

is the scene in RoN's logo 23MBS?

[dapper granite]

YOU CAN TURN OFF LIGHTS ON 3 LETTER TRIAD??

I just turned off this generator and the floodlights turned off holy shit

how did I never notice this

[dim leaf]

i also did not know thi

[dapper granite]

wait both the floodlight and generator are gone this time what

[dense dragon]

is it possible to vanilla solo 3 letter triad on hard

[dapper granite]

probably

[dense dragon]

needs good rng but probably not that hard

[dapper granite]

there might be a video on it already I know a guy who does like "true solo, no armor, X map S rank on hard"

[dense dragon]

what might be hard is solo non lethal hard 3 letter triad

[dense dragon]

yeah I think I know who you are talking about

[dapper granite]

genuinely what is my team doing

[abstract leaf]

Hard and non lethal is hell one earth

[dapper granite]

I told both teams to stack up on 2 separate doors, prescott over here just doesnt care and goes on his own, SOMEHOW walks through the entire room filled with enemies, goes up some stairs and starts shouting at pigeons or something

[abstract leaf]

Hard is already a pain in the ass

[dapper granite]

oh and then he dies once we cleared the room without him

[abstract leaf]

We need better ia

[dapper granite]

nah but genuinely WHAT did he just do

[abstract leaf]

Sometimes they are SPECIAL forces if you know what i mean

[dapper granite]

bro just walked past like 6 suspects and neither him or the other guys cared, goes on a schizo rant and then dies of a heart attack or something

[abstract leaf]

Never had this problem before

Outside of swat not caring of suspects not being arrested

[dense dragon]

they will also forget to secure evidence and arrest people often

and straight up ignore commands

[abstract leaf]

Hope the next update is near

[dim leaf]

possible but good luck

[dense dragon]

depends on RNG

[dense dragon]

same, I just want to run peq-15 and flashlight on one gun

also the optic where the magnifying part flips to the side

[dapper granite]

you'll also be able to change the magnification on current scopes too

finally the 12x scope might not be useless anymore

[dense dragon]

I think I would prefer the side flipping one

because it is faster

ideal setup would be if the side flipping one also has adjustable magnification

[dapper granite]

I love the 4x scope but most of the time I'm forced to only use the ironsights

[dense dragon]

I would use the red dot part for cqb and switch to the magnified side one in open spaces

perfection

[dapper granite]

love when I tell my guys "post up and cover" and they open the door wide open so all of us get lit up

like I DIDNT TELL YOU TO OPEN THE DOOR

at this point the swat ai is just actively working against me

[dense dragon]

swat ai are sleeper agents for the suspects

[dapper granite]

I thought judge was supposed to be the sleeper agent here 😭

I think their codeword might be "I'm not going to jail" since they say it all the time

[dense dragon]

well swat ai is actively trying to get judge killed so

[vale needle]

just tried hard mode, yeah nope im not doing that shit lol

[dapper granite]

I'm doing hard mode S ranks rn

got all the missions done now except 3 letter triad

[vale needle]

cheesing the game and dying constantly for good rng isnt my idea of a good time

[dapper granite]

dunno what you mean by cheesing but the dying constantly part seems pretty accurate xd

[vale needle]

actual cqb doesnt work because the ai’s reaction time is faster than a human’s reaction time on “alert”

[vale needle]

basically, the way you win doing that is dying until the rng favors you

there is no tactics really besides abusing free lean

i could do that, but that just is really boring to me

[dapper granite]

free lean doesnt help much anyway

[vale needle]

the game advertises itself that realistic cqb works, and it just doesnt

[vale needle]

it works really well in my experience

sometimes they cant even spot you

[dapper granite]

this actually feels like babysitting

theres a gun he wants to secure in this room full of suspects AND HE KEEPS OPENING THE DOOR AND TRYING TO SECURE IT

[maiden sequoia]

I got 5 left

[dapper granite]

last suspect and prescott got onetapped

I'm starting to love this guy

[bronze sequoia]

Is there a way to change the AI's loadout? I'm getting tired of failing an S run because they decide to put a 5.56 round into the first suspect's cranium

[dapper granite]

yeah

in the loadout menu, I think above your saved loadouts there should be a tab that says "self"

click on that and it'll let you change the loadouts for each person on your team

[bronze sequoia]

Ahh, I've never touched that because I just change everything in my loadout to fit each mission and I assumed that was your different pre-named loadout slots
Thanks

[tired blade]

we arent the same, i use the same loadout, a m16 and a 1911

[bronze sequoia]

Fair enough
In closer maps I usually use either a shotgun or an SMG, but for bigger more open maps I like using rifles

Oh no
Well this is where my Permadeath run ends, I GOT BRIXLEY
It's over

[maiden sequoia]

Accuracy wise AI will always be 50/50

They'll either stare with full view of a suspect or John wick anyone in sight

[maiden sequoia]

What platform are you on?

[bronze sequoia]

PC

I've yet to do Brixley without dying at least once when running all the missions either multiplayer or in singleplayer practice

[maiden sequoia]

Damn, on PS we have a could we can "manually save" any game at any point

So yeh i saved before and after completing missions

[maiden sequoia]

Standard im assuming?

[bronze sequoia]

Yup

Ironman mode, so once I die it's just game over

[maiden sequoia]

As long as you do main objectives and get C they should count

So to minimise risk i say blast every suspect (before they surrender) obviously flash brix man for the main objective but you can go full auto on the rest of the armed suspects

[bronze sequoia]

I'm trying to S all the missions though, Non Lethal

[maiden sequoia]

Oh

Oh you really put yourself in a spot

And hermit?

[bronze sequoia]

Yeah, that's the biggest issue lmao
Can't just pop everyone but the main guy in the head

[maiden sequoia]

I did 1 run S rank
1 run Ironmam/hermit

And now my last run HARD

[bronze sequoia]

Never heard of "Hermit"

[dim leaf]

have you gotten done with greased palms yet

[maiden sequoia]

The achievement, complete ironman mode without losing a officer

[bronze sequoia]

Nope, just finished 213, the meth house

[maiden sequoia]

So you can't die and neither can your officers

[bronze sequoia]

I know Greased is going to be HELL if I make it that far

[dapper granite]

we just threw 3 stuns into this one room these poor suspects 💀

[dim leaf]

so will relapse, VOTD, hide and seek, neon tomb, etc.

[maiden sequoia]

Valley of the dolls

[bronze sequoia]

Oh dont even remind me of the Nightclub
I dont even want to think of how much of a pain in the rectal cavity that'll be

[maiden sequoia]

I do suggest doing S on another run

And just aim for ironman and hermit

[dim leaf]

i did full S on hard mode with a friend and it took hundreds upon hundreds of attempts for greased palms, around 100 for hide and seek and neon tomb, around 20-50 for VOTD and relapse

[bronze sequoia]

I really dont care about the achievement, I'm not an achievement hunter I cant play games long enough to 100% them, I've already done it on Ironman, now I'm doing it Non Lethal

[maiden sequoia]

I'm doing hard with AI

[dim leaf]

i dont know about you but i feel like AI would make it easier than just 2 people

[maiden sequoia]

Oh, my bad i thought your doing ironman achievement

[maiden sequoia]

Yes and no

[bronze sequoia]

No, I just like suffering

[maiden sequoia]

Since its hard, we can pop every no surrendering suspect

[dim leaf]

wait what

[maiden sequoia]

If you see a suspect and instantly cap him, no penalty

[dim leaf]

theres no way

me and my friend did full arrests for all levels 😭

[maiden sequoia]

I've gone through 100+ officers rn and got to neon tomb

BRUV

[warm lava]

Really hoping we get a few more levels added to the game 😭

[dim leaf]

yeah that is why greased palms took something dumb like 800 attempts for us

[maiden sequoia]

On valley of the dolls after clearing 3F i just camped the windows and full autoed every suspect

[dim leaf]

"local police department has lost 134 officers recently"

[maiden sequoia]

Same with the cat walk before the ground floor

[dim leaf]

so youre saying S rank is possible with lethals?

[maiden sequoia]

NO NO

[dim leaf]

oh

[maiden sequoia]

I just mean completing the game itself

[dim leaf]

damnit

yeah we were going for S on hard all levels

we've done all 18 story maps + dorms and narcos

[maiden sequoia]

I just got 1 achievement left

[dim leaf]

is it sleeper agent

[maiden sequoia]

Hard mode

[dim leaf]

ah

[maiden sequoia]

And I'm 5 missions away

Neon, carries, relapse, hide and seek and buy/sell

[dim leaf]

ive got sleeper agent, the new hidden achievement, and a few new ones like the tutorial that i just havent bothered doing yet

[maiden sequoia]

So far my strategy of insta popping suspects is doing me wonders

I haven't bought the DLC

[dapper granite]

I got all my achievements done now I'm just S ranking everything on hard

missing only 1 mission

[dim leaf]

is it greased palms or hide and seek

[dapper granite]

3 letter triad

[dim leaf]

fair

i thought you meant without dlc

[maiden sequoia]

I'm about to hit 80h on ron

[dim leaf]

i very well may have 316 hours

[maiden sequoia]

OK, 2 missions down today. Time to relax on terraria

[dapper granite]

I have over 600

and this shit is still hard

[dim leaf]

😭

[maiden sequoia]

Well it's hard mode for a reason + randomiser of bugs

I had one of my blue officers get stuck in Sins of the father in the open on 1F

[dim leaf]

damn

[bronze sequoia]

If I'm not wrong S has you arrest EVERY suspect, even one dying drops it down a rank

[dapper granite]

love when me and my team throw a total of 3 stuns into a room and no-one gets stunned

somehow

[dim leaf]

and theres the "bug" where people kill you with a pistol wallbang from 50 feet away, with perfect tracking aswell

[maiden sequoia]

In the end it was cuz I told them to close a door and wedge it and 2 officers tried doing it and he was stuck

[maiden sequoia]

That's just the description for hard mode, tell me a actual bug

[dim leaf]

very true

[maiden sequoia]

I had to make a whole ass entry and clear strategy for all the maps

[dapper granite]

poor prescott just went to close a door and got filled with lead in less than 2 seconds 😭

[dim leaf]

me and my friend kinda just went as we go and figured out what does and doesnt work

[dapper granite]

I'll admit this one was on me

[maiden sequoia]

After hard mode I'm playing multilplayer for awhile

[maiden sequoia]

Well since suspects spawns are rng and there are shit choke points that my AI don't understand i made a list of clearing strategies

Specially on GP

[dim leaf]

thats fair because you cant directly communicate with AI like a human

[maiden sequoia]

And cuz they let a suspect run past them at mach Jesus to get to me

I literally have to hold there hands to where they go

The only "+" is they're reaction speed

[bronze sequoia]

I hate games that have AI like that
Like Payday 3, the AI just lets Cloakers run right past them so he can dropkick you in the nose

Then they wait about 3 seconds
THEN they help

[dapper granite]

also I'm pretty sure the suspects try to target you whenever they can

or most of the time at least

[bronze sequoia]

That has to be the case, the amount of times I get shot when behind or beside an AI Teammate is too many to be coincidence

[maiden sequoia]

I just did my first run on NT and got to the very end (lockers, small bar, lounge, etc) and i was watching the dance floor double door to the mini bar while my officers cleared bathroom and the dance floor

[dapper granite]

I'd just be chilling at the back of the room, letting my team clear, suddenly some guy runs into the room and starts spraying me down instantly

what about the other 4 guys with shields in front of me huh?

[maiden sequoia]

NOT only was one of my AI on the staircase but this brown man runs instantly from the double door to me

[maiden sequoia]

Usually it's one of the long roamers

Seen some suspects hunt you from across the map

[grim inlet]

authentication seems to be coming back online slowly

[vale plume]

This game’s online system was so slow

[cunning crow]

Will there be any updates for console anytime soon

[rocky plover]

[surreal pelican]

Anyone tried using shotguns on GP?

[rocky plover]

Yeah usually shotguns is all I use on GP xD

Its so op, cos they're unarmoured, so it becomes a no brainer

[surreal pelican]

Wtf how 😭

I've only gotten like very little success with GP on shotguns, but for AR it's a whole diff game

[rocky plover]

I find both good, with shotgun I find it slightly easier because with buckshot you don't need to be as precise as with an AR

And usually 1 shell is still enough, 2 at most

Depends on the range and how pellets hit

[surreal pelican]

Christ

[rocky plover]

I even use it on port lol

Cos they're unarmoured there as well

[surreal pelican]

For me port was okay when I tried the M1014

But for GP it was utter hell

No idea why

[rocky plover]

Really? I loved it

[ruby goblet]

are servers down guys

[surreal pelican]

Deadass, I dunno if it's coz of the range or I'm not used to being able to do fast follow up shots if miss

[rocky plover]

They should be back up

[rocky plover]

Both eos and steam

[surreal pelican]

Even I had fun with the shotgun on SoTF

[rocky plover]

Which shotgun? I was using 590m with 12g brake

[rocky plover]

I tend to avoid using shotguns on suspects with L2 armor and above, I go with other stuff on those

[surreal pelican]

870, buck with brake

[surreal pelican]

Ooo aight, I'm considering swapping JHP to AP on 5.56

[rocky plover]

Should be fairly similar to 590m, both pump action the difference is reload

[rocky plover]

I use shotguns for unarmoured and L1 armor
Smg (specifically mp7 with JHP) for L2 armor
AR (specifically arn180 with JHP) for L3 armor
5.56 AR with AP for L4 armor

[surreal pelican]

I see, for me I might just go fully AP 5.56 since I never tried that config before and somewhat got bored with the ARN

[surreal pelican]

I have no idea why I'm sucking so badly in GP with the shotgun 😭

[rocky plover]

I used to do just that before, for both standard and hard, it's alright, just sucks when you hit limbs cos it ends up taking so many ammo to kill some1

[quasi coral]

You've never went AP 5.56?!?

[rocky plover]

And I know JHP would fix that, but for 5.56, with JHP you're stuck till L2 armor, so I just use AP for 5.56

[quasi coral]

Like, fully? Honestly it's my go to

[surreal pelican]

o.. yea I forgot about limb shots

[surreal pelican]

Deadass

[rocky plover]

Ikr lol, it used to be all I used lmao

[surreal pelican]

Yeh

What advice do you have on GP with Shotguns?

[quasi coral]

Speaking of ammunition, I think 300 blackout should be an optional conversion for guns available for it

Both have their ups and downs, 300 blackout should perform worse against armor and flesh at a certain distance

And 5.56 is just 5.56

[rocky plover]

Well I pretty much use the same approach as I would when using AR's, just avoid the main area etc.. the usual

[marsh lark]

.300 BLK performs worse when it comes to penetration

[quasi coral]

Oh really? I honestly never knew that

[rocky plover]

Yeah doesn't make a difference though unless you're shooting through stuff

[quasi coral]

Thank you for the information, I actually thought my 5.56 bias would never make it out of "It's the worse round" pit

[quasi coral]

Who wouldn't

[rocky plover]

Also its damage drop off starts early

[quasi coral]

I mean SCREW this mansion man go and pay for the repairs

[rocky plover]

But then again it's still fairly high to notice the damage drop off

[rocky plover]

I don't xd

[marsh lark]

BLK has higher damage but worse material penetration

[quasi coral]

Mhm, I personally feel that they both perform the similarly except into certain situations

[rocky plover]

Yeah if they change the damage drop off, it would make for example .300blkout worse to 5.56 for maps like port

[quasi coral]

I feel like a 50. Cal Machine Gun on our armored vehicle would solve this penetration issue

[rocky plover]

🤣

[quasi coral]

Mhm, but for now, there are only about 3ish maps where 5.56 would perform better in those circumstances

[rocky plover]

Yeah cos of L4 armor

[surreal pelican]

Damn.. I think it's skill issue for me then, coz I was using same approach for my shotgun GP run

[quasi coral]

The big 2 being Greasy and Hidanseek

[rocky plover]

Have to take it slightly slower forgot to mention that cos with pump action gotta avoid having more than 1 suspect at the same time to deal with

[surreal pelican]

Oh yeaaa..

Once inside the warehouse, it's full of them

[quasi coral]

LV4 Armor and the future suspect helmet addition would make the most painful experience ever

[surreal pelican]

And sometimes idfk where they shooting at

[rocky plover]

Yea

[rocky plover]

Yea and like I said if they tinker more with damage drop off and make .300 start losing damage more early and it would make 5.56 more 'usable'

On bigger maps

But how it is right now it barely makes a difference

[quasi coral]

Hopefully they do, and with it comes ammunition conversion updat!!!

[quasi coral]

Mhm, I guess officers looking for a specific trait should go for either

Although, I am an officer of style, because why would I use the LVAR when the cooler GA416 is right there?

[rocky plover]

Hahaha true

[surreal pelican]

How long did it take ya to learn around the shotgun on GP?

[rocky plover]

I already knew the map well before I started to mess around with shotguns in general, so it became a no brainer for me once I tried it