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[tidal sleet]

You don’t want your thumb on the slide at all, great way to get a cut from it

[vale needle]

you want it very close

as close as possible without hurting yourself

[wraith echo]

well i know not on the slide itself, but close to it, idk how to call it. but extended forward along the frame

[vale needle]

yeah its the frame

[tidal sleet]

Yeah I have my dominate hand’s thumb like 1mm away from the slide

[wraith echo]

like the only "correct" form i see judge doings, now im using the g19 for example. is his hand is correctly set for the beaver tail, high up and firm

but still, nothing on the frame itself. he holds the grip and then grips his fingers that are holding onto the grip of the gun.

[wraith echo]

which i imagine if you were to recreate, would feel some difference, even if not much. but no elite unit is dumb enough to toss away any advantage no matter how insignificant

[vale needle]

its a stabilization thing

and yeah its pretty important

[wraith echo]

i know that. again, im a gun nut. i know plenty but can still learn, i just havent shot a gun myself but have more than common knowledge of how to use and operate one.

[full shore]

Two thumbs down is also a legitimate grip. It's not as easy to be as accurate as thumbs forward, but it's far more superior in retention if getting into grappling scenarios

[wraith echo]

which never happen in the game.

[vale needle]

pretty sure a lot of sof units and most instructors teach the thumb on the frame close to the slide thing so idk much about other techniques

[wraith echo]

im equal on this knowledge point

[full shore]

Don't see why it even matters in game tho lol

Both are valid techniques

[wraith echo]

eh, you do raise a valid point but im autistic and need such details to live in peace

[full shore]

[wraith echo]

like hell, apparently the prober way to breach a door with a kick is near the handle, as close as you can yet Judge kicks the middle even on a steel fucking door and busts it down. what is he, batman?

[vale needle]

id say the thumb near the slide is the better one but you make a valid point, it comes down to preference

[wraith echo]

its small attention to detail like this that matters to me, especially for such a serious game as ready or not. but im not so sure just how serious it is anymore nowadays.

[vale needle]

cia pet project

[wraith echo]

lmao. all that LSD be doing judge cray cray

[vale needle]

yeah lol

[full shore]

Thumb on the slide is definitely easier to be faster and more accurate. But the drawback is retention in defense scenarios. Just different strokes

[wraith echo]

are we speaking two handed or one handed?

[full shore]

Yes

[vale needle]

please dont shoot one handed

[full shore]

Why not?

[wraith echo]

i mean, if you're grappling sometimes you dont have a choice

[vale needle]

its kind of terrible outside of specific situations

[full shore]

Your other hand can be disabled, or holding someone/something, or using a flashlight

[vale needle]

i meant like if you dont have to dont

[wraith echo]

it seems rather obvious in those cases...

[still willow]

This game once again is immaculate and so perfect

[cunning sigil]

I was on that fucking uh tunnel type mission which like allows for the Los Lacas cartel or whatever to navigate from the USA to Mexico I think? And at first it was okay, like hmm all we needa really do is save 3 people and take down the rest, LITTLE did I know those tunnels would scare the SHIT out of me. When we get to like the end of the tunnels you just see a few eyes looking at you from deep in the cave. That was really really fucking scary.

[cedar mulch]

I believe Los Locos is an American gang funded by Mexican cartels, with their relationship resembling that of superiors and subordinates.

[cedar knot]

Does anyone else have trouble with the stolen valor mission in the los suenos stories dlc?

The third mission, I always end up with a C or F because either a civilian dies or I shoot a suspect too early

I don't have this issue with any other map except greased palms

[vapid oasis]

yes

[rocky plover]

Maybe one of you died and the suspect picked up the gun?

[vale needle]

nah i was the first to die and i dont have the 50ae 1911, i think the ai just bugged out and became cracked

[vale needle]

ive never seen anything like it except 1.0 ai broken montages

seriously like, running without facing me 90 degrees up the stairs and insta killing me and then 2 more friends that are holding the stairs before being mag dumped and finally dying

pretty sure i even shot him and he just continued to run towards me

scary nightmare shit bruh

maybe it has something to do with stairs?

maybe they become john wick on stairs?

[rocky plover]

Well they start stressed on that map which makes them aggressive and continue to get even more aggressive

[cedar mulch]

I feel RON WIKI is utterly useless; it hasn't been updated in ages.

[pine grotto]

Will new maps be coming soon for free players??? Reply to the message pls so I get the ping

[covert aurora]

If you bought the delux edition for console yes, if your on pc most likely not

[pine grotto]

I preordered on Xbox and bought all the dlcs

[covert aurora]

Then your set

[pine grotto]

That’s what I have

The DLCs didn’t come with it though I bought them after when I finished the main story

So still good?

[covert aurora]

Eh... i think, if i am wrong when the time comes you can blame me

[pine grotto]

Ok lol

[maiden sequoia]

WHY CANT I SHOOT THROUGH THE RAILING ON GREASED PALMS

WTF

[dire horizon]

Ricochet?

[maiden sequoia]

I'm shooting through the gap that's fucking big enough to aim through

[dire horizon]

Ah

Ye olde invisible walls

[maiden sequoia]

And I'm talking about the catwalk/rafters after the 2nd floor

I was 5 suspects FROM BEATING THAT CURSED MAP ON HARD

[dire horizon]

Dang, that's rough

[maiden sequoia]

I've pretty much beat everything prior on my 2nd run

[torpid onyx]

the suspect's can shoot you though have fun

[dire horizon]

Suspects seem to be able to shoot you through anything but the ballistic shield

[jolly verge]

Nope

[maiden sequoia]

No up to a certain threshold you can peak over the railing "invisible wall" (which somehow you can throw your flash bangs through though) without them noticing

But you can't shoot

OH but if you go down the Staircase they can shoot you through that but you can't shoot back

[jolly verge]

Some railings are just a solid walls, you can shoot through them just fine if you have correct ammo

[maiden sequoia]

Catwalk - greased palms - the ones over above the FISA building that lead out of the 2F office

And I'm rocking AP 762x51

[whole plume]

How do yall beat Rust Belt on Hard? The tunnels are torturous and also my AI are stupid and get killed

[maiden sequoia]

Lots of flashes

[whole plume]

Yeah I am trying, its just really hard when they react as fast as they do

[maiden sequoia]

Mirror gun?

[whole plume]

I am using that too, yeah

[maiden sequoia]

Did you give 2 officers shotguns?

Just they seem to suck balls in really cqb with ars

[whole plume]

I gave them MK17s

I am using the M1014

Are MK17s wrong for this mission?

[rocky plover]

Forgot if the railings on catwalk are same as ones outside near the trucks but those you can shoot between the railings but the railings itself have same 'armor' as L4 or something

[jolly verge]

7.62x51 is useless on hard

And swat ai is broken on rust belt

[civic fiber]

how is it useless

[rocky plover]

Same amount of shot to kill with 5.56, .300blkout (on hard)

[civic fiber]

Aspid how the fuk you do reactions and i cant 😠

[civic fiber]

[marsh lark]

my man's a sergeant

[covert aurora]

you called? >:)

[whole plume]

Really?

Intresting

What else should I give my AI then?

[surreal pelican]

(don't kill me, but how does one get the Sergeant role?)

[whole plume]

Also God damn I am so close yet so far on Sins of the Father S rank

[jolly verge]

Yes. Just give them .300 or 7.62x39 with JHP ammo instead

[onyx swift]

I know it’s not the most helpful, but you could likely run whatever

You may also want at least one of the AI to have a Shield, just in case they actually decide to work

Especially on Rust Belt with the tight corridors

[surreal pelican]

Also sidenote;

From my experience, sometimes the AI there REFUSES to enter a door I have them stacked up soo careful

[onyx swift]

Yeah, the Team AI for Rust Belt is just busted right now

[whole plume]

Ywah that is mega annoying

[onyx swift]

You’ll have to do most of it yourself

So pack a lot of ammo and/or Flashbangs

[whole plume]

Never tried the 300blk on the AI tbf, is it any good?

[surreal pelican]

Goated

Once you try .300 Blk, you never go back

It can pen up to L3 armour with JHP

[whole plume]

I run: M1014, 5 "Mags", FiveseveN, 2 Mags, 3 bangs, a tazer, lock pick gun

[surreal pelican]

I have 3 of my AI with the ARN while one of them has the M1014

[whole plume]

Which is the best 300blk gun, the ARN?

[surreal pelican]

Personally for me rn I'm running 4 mags, 2 USP mags, 6 bangs and 1 taser slot

[surreal pelican]

Ya id say so

[rocky plover]

That's 12 slots total O_o

[rocky plover]

Same

[whole plume]

I run light armour

[surreal pelican]

My AI has heavy armour but I ration, they usually carry 4 mags, 2 mags (USP), 3 bangs, 1 C2, 1 wedge

[prime spear]

Check out Nexus mods.

[rocky plover]

Same so you have an unspent point

[surreal pelican]

Yes I'm aware

[whole plume]

I dont when I look, I am probs just forgetting something

[rocky plover]

Ah ok

[surreal pelican]

Could use the extra points for flashbangs

[rocky plover]

I confirmed that they don't run out of ammo btw

[surreal pelican]

I run steel for all my boys and myself (bless Full Metal and Aspid for enlightening me in Steel)

[surreal pelican]

dafuq

[whole plume]

So regardless of how much ammo you give them, they have infinite?

[rocky plover]

I gave them 0 ammo for m32a1, 1 slot for tprl, and the rest just flashbangs, c2 and wedges

They reloaded their launcher no problem xD

[surreal pelican]

Dudeeee.. if only I knew this before I did my Hard S grind..

[rocky plover]

Yeah I confirmed aspids theory that just 1 slot for their gun becomes infinite for them

[surreal pelican]

Does assigning 0 ammo slots for Rifles/Shotguns grant them infinite too?

[rocky plover]

For everything else you need to give them at least 1

[surreal pelican]

Thank you

[rocky plover]

I think its not needed for launcher because it has 6 shots as 'free'

[maiden sequoia]

I swear I tried in between each gap in the railings

[surreal pelican]

🙏

[whole plume]

Explains why they can spray full auto SCAR H and never run out

[rocky plover]

They do reload but ye infinite mags lol

[whole plume]

Yeah thats what I meant

[maiden sequoia]

Your joking right

[surreal pelican]

surely they won't patch right?

[rocky plover]

The ones near trucks can confirm I can shoot through the gaps but forgot if cat walk ones are the same or not

[rocky plover]

It's been like that since the beginning apparently

[maiden sequoia]

Pretty sure it's a complete invisible wall

[rocky plover]

So doubt it

[maiden sequoia]

Since I can get close enough that my head doesn't poke out above and they still can't see me

[rocky plover]

Hmm they might be different then

Ohhhhh wait I forgot

Yeah that part specifically is a bit bugged

[surreal pelican]

Tip when assaulting warehouse (from the loading bay area, weapons cache soft obj):

Make your team Clear with M302 launcher flash then you breach by the other loading bay gate and lob flashbangs over the conveyor belts at the same time as their breach

[rocky plover]

Because even when shouting and have line of sight

[whole plume]

I hope they dont

[rocky plover]

It doesn't work so most likely there is an invisible wall

[surreal pelican]

This can be done when going to weapons cache area too, just free lean and lob a flashbang over the van/truck to the weapons cache area

[whole plume]

Aight let me try the 300Blk on Rust Belt Hard rq

[rocky plover]

Yeah I usually like to clear exterior before interior though

[surreal pelican]

Think imma actually give them 1 mag slot from now on. What you recommend I bring now? Extra wedges? Flashbangs?

[rocky plover]

On rust belt can use literally anything, they are unarmoured

[surreal pelican]

Ya, tis what I do too. I have red taking point leading to the truck areas while I clear the other postal office

[rocky plover]

I gave them 1 pistol mag, 1 rifle mag, 2 c2, 2 wedge, the rest flashes

That's 16 wedges and 16 c2 total which is plenty lol

[surreal pelican]

Heavy right?

[rocky plover]

Ye always heavy on AI

[surreal pelican]

Thanks, bless void for this

Btw metal, when do you order your AI to open/shotgun breach a door and flash over C2 and flash?

[rocky plover]

I usually give them mirrorguns tbh cos I like using launcher or breach shotgun myself

[surreal pelican]

Assuming there's suspects in the door too

[rocky plover]

If there's a civilian I don't c2

[surreal pelican]

o

So bottom line;

If civilian behind, just Open/Shotgun it and flash

If enemies only C2?

Coz when I tried C2 and bang on one of the doors of Sins, the fucking Secret Service just lit them up

[rocky plover]

Yeah cos I don't wanna risk killing the civ with c2 or with the door itself (if it metal)

[rocky plover]

Yeah be careful on hard especially c2 can aggravate them a lot and instantly start firing at the walls and doors

[surreal pelican]

That kept happening to me on Sins on standard 😭

[rocky plover]

Yeah I like to make them stack on the least resistant side instead of split stack most of the time

That way they have 'more time' for the AI to do their thing instead of stare at the suspect

Cos sometimes I have no idea why but the 1st AI by the door just get shot and doesn't fire back as if he can't see him

[surreal pelican]

Resistant side? As in if door opens rightwards, make them stack on left?

[rocky plover]

The way they are the most protected from

[whole plume]

Unarmoured, but highly deadly

300blk is good tbf

[rocky plover]

Not how the doors opens per se but more like if it's a corner fed to the right room I make them stack on right side (since left side there is just a wall) and they are protected

[surreal pelican]

Ahh I see, thank you. This requires mirrorgun right? Coz I'm just using breach shotgun rn

[rocky plover]

If I make them stack on left on a corner fed to the right room, as soon as they open the door they start to receive fire lol

[rocky plover]

Not really if you know all the room layouts

I use breach shotgun myself in lethal loadout
And m320 flash launcher in less lethal loadout

[surreal pelican]

Even worse on stacked, but no choice for double doors

[surreal pelican]

Aight, thanks 🙏

I haven't really known all the room map layouts yet but I guess I gotta do what's gotta be done

[rocky plover]

Can be done on double doors too but yeah I agree those are a little more annoying for the AI

[surreal pelican]

Yee

[rocky plover]

Since they get exposed more

Especially if split stacks

[surreal pelican]

Imma change my AI loadout for moh bangs, C2 and wedges

[surreal pelican]

It's like even worse if you try left or right, one whole train

[rocky plover]

Depends if it's corner fed or not

[surreal pelican]

Yea

[rocky plover]

I gave them 6 bangs each (5 bangs each if not using the m32a1 cos gotta spare 1 point for primary slot)

[surreal pelican]

Nice

[surreal pelican]

Example: Greased Palms door,

It flows to right, where do I stack em?

[rocky plover]

Which door specifically though

[surreal pelican]

The first post office, the door that leads to 1 on the left and two on the left side

[rocky plover]

Oh the one right at the spawn?

Or inside where there are 1 on left and 1 on right?

[surreal pelican]

Inside

[rocky plover]

Yea but which room inside the first one?

Or the next one

[maiden sequoia]

Usually I just split them to head through both doors

[rocky plover]

If on the first part then yea same, (with left team stacking right side and right team stacking left side)

[maiden sequoia]

Then after clearing, wedge the door to warehouse hall

[rocky plover]

So you wedge before you meet the 3 doors?

Or am I not understanding you correctly

[maiden sequoia]

Yeh

[rocky plover]

Oh rly? I prefer to clear that and get some easy arrests than risk letting them back out to the main area

[surreal pelican]

It's the room with 2 doors leading to warehouse and 1 door leading to exterior with the loading bay for truck

[rocky plover]

So the door that leads to that part or those doors specifically?

Cos I usually wedge the 2 that lead to main area

But before I take a small peek for some easy arrests/kills too

[maiden sequoia]

Used to clear that hall and wedge both warehouse doors

I probably should again

[rocky plover]

Yeah cos they can roam there

[maiden sequoia]

Tried something different cuz of hard

[rocky plover]

And better catch them inside rather than in the open

[surreal pelican]

Ya

[rocky plover]

Or bait them I guess on hard

[maiden sequoia]

I haven't had anyone roam out yet

[surreal pelican]

That's what I do too but sometimes when I order AI to PIE they see a suspect or two there so

[maiden sequoia]

Usually they funnel in that hall like 3 to 4 of them so it's a easy flash and 4 headshots

[rocky plover]

Stack them on right side (forgot if it lets you though on that specific door since there's obstacles)

[surreal pelican]

That's why I wedge everything then clear the two offices before entering warehouse via weapons cache area

[rocky plover]

So I can have the left side for me and peek easier

Yea same

[surreal pelican]

Thank you 🙏, silly question..

Will this work? Like if a door opens to the right (assuming door position is central, so it can be flowed both ways), do I order team to stack left?

[rocky plover]

I usually decide on how the room is (center fed or corner fed) not how the door opens

[surreal pelican]

o

[rocky plover]

But to answer your question if door opens right I stack them left yes so I can see left side (since I am on right side)

[maiden sequoia]

Also how many suspects in the room

[surreal pelican]

Nice, thank you 🙏

[rocky plover]

Since it's the first corner you should clear

Since you have some bit of cover from the door

[surreal pelican]

Ya, for me I've just been following my AI as they clear from behind

Embarrassing yes, but I think I'm gonna clear with them too from the opposite side

[rocky plover]

But this all changes if they make doors work like in ground branch lol

(Just like how they work irl)

[rocky plover]

Nah not embarrassing at all, I do that sometimes too especially if it leads to wide open spaces

But if it's very small I like to make them clear with leader command

So I can decide what happens

[surreal pelican]

Ye

Thank you Metal 🙏

[rocky plover]

👍

[fluid ether]

Shotguns are shit in this game now what happened why do bullets feel so weak all of a sudden?

[wind gyro]

slug or buckshot

[fluid ether]

Shot dudes in the head with 7.62 and they lived 3 more

[fluid ether]

Slugs

[wind gyro]

what mission

[fluid ether]

Stolen Valor

They don't have helmets they should NOT be surviving shotgun slugs and 7.62 to the face

[wind gyro]

i mean slug is a single projectile

its like a normal ar bullet

[fluid ether]

So are the enemies supposed to survive it if shot in the head?

[wind gyro]

slugs are just overall ass

buckshot is for every armor
slug is up to level 3

[fluid ether]

What about 7.62

[wind gyro]

lemme check cus i forgot

[fluid ether]

That's one i really don't understand shooting someone in the head it should be killing them in one shot especially with 7.62 or did they nerf my beloved g3a3 and sa-58 osw in the game

[wind gyro]

https://imgur.com/a/ytymHCP

limbs > torso > L1 > L2 > L3 > L4

its in that order

[fluid ether]

Content unavailable in my region

UK moment

[wind gyro]

its a fucking screenshot 😭

[fluid ether]

It is what it is

[wind gyro]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=966904672#gid=966904672
just check it for yourself

[fluid ether]

AP 7.62 for sure should be one shot to head though fix game plz devs

[fluid ether]

Content unavailable again

[wind gyro]

yeah uk is cooked

do you want the overall damage for 7.62 or a specific mission

i can just dm you it

[fluid ether]

Nah i am just asking why its not 1 shot anymore it used to be

Beginning of ver 1.0 it was still 1 shot head shot

In all missions

[wind gyro]

it still should be 1 shot head shot

[fluid ether]

I've had ai survive 4 shots directly in the head

Its worse while playing co op

[rocky plover]

You're sure you're hitting your shots? A headshot is a headshot.

[wind gyro]

i mean the hit reg isnt THAT THAT bad

[fluid ether]

yes i am pretty positive

[rocky plover]

Mods of any kind?

[fluid ether]

fully vanilla

[rocky plover]

That's weird then, cos a headshot is a headshot irrelevant of the caliber

[fluid ether]

Its happened with a shotgun too blood all over their face but alive and still shooting

Co op one was probably higher latency but sp idk man

[rocky plover]

That usually happens when you hit an artery not a headshot

[fluid ether]

Oh fr?

[rocky plover]

Yeah

[fluid ether]

That wouldn't make sense though its clear as day that i shot them in the head unless its just hit reg

[rocky plover]

Well idk what to tell you, but overall slugs are meh, buckshot is much better imo

[wind gyro]

slugs are just normal gun bullets

slugs are a worse dmr

[rocky plover]

Yeah I might as well use a rifle at that point

[silent ermine]

guys im getting ready or not today any advice?

[dapper granite]

use free lean to your advantage to peek around corners, mirrorgun tool can also let you peak around corners without you being visible, but only do that if you're sure no-one's gonna run up to you and shoot you in the face

don't immediately go online looking for "best guns in the game", pick what you like and play with it

also remember to play slow ofc

[silent ermine]

ohh thank you so much this is gonna be so useful

[astral lance]

Headshots are irrelevant when my revolver is chambered in 200.

[solemn gate]

What’s the point of zip cuffs if you can’t use them? Is there a plan for them?

[torpid onyx]

yeah I've had guys Ive shot in the head just like tank it for no reason sometimes
they get the whole bloody face aswell

[worthy ivy]

.357 but yes

[sudden ermine]

anyone know the Report Prohibited Images of Minors could be in 23 megabytes a second?

[mighty hemlock]

Yo is the "From House to house" achievement bugged? I didn't unlock it even though I got every other achivement

[worthy ivy]

On the nightstand next to the main dudes bed

[sudden ermine]

i've been staring at his glass table for like 10 minutes lmao

thanks alot yvilya

[worthy ivy]

No problem

[mighty hemlock]

Ngl a revolver chambered in .500 Winchester Magnum would be tuff in Ready or Not

[worthy ivy]

It would

[mighty hemlock]

Nah but is it bugged or not?

[plain iris]

Is anyone else having trouble finding lobbies on Xbox?

[worthy ivy]

Try hard difficulty it should be faster

[worthy ivy]

But yeah I have

[worthy ivy]

Unsure

[plain iris]

I have all the difficulties selected and I haven't been able to find a lobby for two straight days. Its like every other player just ceased existing on this game.

[mighty hemlock]

Check your region

[worthy ivy]

Oh damn

[mighty hemlock]

You maybe have a region that's 40000km away from you selected

[plain iris]

That fixed it

I think

[mighty hemlock]

Got into a lobby?

[plain iris]

yup

[mighty hemlock]

Nice

[plain iris]

I was just sitting there like

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-gif-12608206659263100219

[worthy ivy]

🤣 thats great

[plain iris]

Lol

[surreal pelican]

Which entry do y'all take on Sins?

[plain iris]

can't remember

[torpid onyx]

helipad sometimes means you can get shot thru the windows whole you go down the fire escape so it's kinda hit and miss if you immediately botch your run or not

and returning fire thru the windows is a pain as well and the suspect in that hallway usually ends up pulling a runner and barricading themselves in the interior balcony room

[surreal pelican]

So elevator?

I've been replaying this but damn

[rocky plover]

Elevator best one imo, gives you a linear access to both 1st and 2nd floor and helipad as the other guy said is risky cos of the windows not to mention the entries kinda puts in a 'T' intersection. And last entry puts you instantly in the worst room ever lol

[cunning sigil]

I'm on Sins of The Fathers too but basically all my officers are stressed, crisis or on intervention.

[plain iris]

did yall know if you tell civs to move to the exit they leave the dangerous area and head to your spawn where they are auto arrested?

You cant do it with suspects tho

[dire horizon]

A heads up on that, it doesn't always auto arrest, it glitches sometimes so if you're looking for the last suspect check your spawn

[rocky plover]

Yea while it's nice, sometimes you have to go back to spawn, while some get auto arrested once you have LoS to them but some need to be bashed or shouted at again to be manually arrested.

Its annoying when it doesn't work on maps like hospital though cos going back to spawn ends up taking more time than just manually arrested civilians as you clear the map

[plain iris]

thats dumb they should all auto arrest

[tacit gull]

It's because of AI optimisation the game can't arrest them

[surreal pelican]

Thanks 🙏 Do you clear first or second floor first?

[rocky plover]

Doesn't make a lot of difference especially if I split it and back track but if going linear 2nd first

[surreal pelican]

Nice, linear as in like a set path right?

Coz for me I find the first floor to be the most painful thanks to the 2 large ass rooms

[rocky plover]

Basically always going forward room by room without back tracking

[surreal pelican]

Nice

I think I might try your linear method

Much less of a headache

[rocky plover]

Yea the worst rooms are the 1 that's puts you directly nearest with the 3rd spawn option

And the other rooms where you can be seen both from above and below

[surreal pelican]

Dude I've been using that as my spawn 😂, I never touched elevator at all

[rocky plover]

That leads to outside

[rocky plover]

Which one cos there's 3?

[surreal pelican]

The.. balcony

Either rooftop or balcony

[rocky plover]

Ah damn

Balcony is nice with a very well coordinated team

[surreal pelican]

Yea

[rocky plover]

Can do it Dynamic and get the worst room over with in the beginning

[surreal pelican]

I've been using my ai

[rocky plover]

But solo or with AI I hate that spawn

[surreal pelican]

Regrets

[rocky plover]

Same with rooftop cos they can get shot from opposite windows

[surreal pelican]

When you clear second floor first, do you avoid the area that has the kid? The one with the open air thing that exposed you to first floor

[surreal pelican]

Happened to me too

[rocky plover]

I clear it briefly by hugging the walls as cover without exposing myself near the railings

[surreal pelican]

Nice

I think I gotta make my AI hold then while I clear it

[rocky plover]

Yea good idea to make them cover the stairs that lead downstairs to that big room

[mighty hemlock]

Yo will officers be content if I leave them off a mission once. I have 2 anxious, and am doing an ironman run. And if I just leave them off a mission once will they be content? I can't send them to therapy if they're not stressed

[surreal pelican]

Thanks for the advice 🙏, gonna do a dry run with elevator tomorrow

[jolly verge]

Each completed mission heals 0.125 of stress for everyone who's not in your active roster

[mighty hemlock]

Ohh thx that's good to know

[jolly verge]

You can just arrest more suspects alive and they will be content

[mighty hemlock]

Kinda hard to do on hard difficulty but thank you

[jolly verge]

On ironman?

[surreal pelican]

Should I clear the entire second floor first before attempting to solo wall hug the exposed area with the kid?

[rocky plover]

Yes, might take longer than 1 mission

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[surreal pelican]

Or split Red and Blue to guard the stairwell and the corridor leading to the open respectively?

[rocky plover]

I usually leave that last room on 2nd floor for last since it's the most far room elevator spawn anyways

So as long as you cover the stairs you're good

[surreal pelican]

Aight, thank you

[surreal pelican]

So basically clear out the whole of second floor, leave that god forsaken room for solo last clear while I have AI on stairs right?

For the first floor with the open air balcony, how do you clear it? Coz sometimes the stupid enemy AI can be outside of the area (the outside patio)

[mighty hemlock]

If an officer get's incapped but survives does that disqualify me from getting the dev watch????

I knwo if they get KIA'd and if they resign or I fire them then no. But what if they get incapped but survive and don't resign

[jolly verge]

The Hermit - no KIA and incaps
Dev watch - no KIA and resigns

Anything else is fine

[mighty hemlock]

Ahhh that sucks

Thx for the info

[cedar mulch]

If SWAT AI were also capable of firing from cover, would the results be significantly improved?

[tacit gull]

Probably not

[wide verge]

any tips for a safe route to clear Sinous Trail?

[rocky plover]

Yea

[rocky plover]

Little bit from inside and rest from outside the side room

[spark kite]

How does one create a unit?

[rocky plover]

As aspid said however I think it doesn't count on last mission though because I remember having resigns after I finished port and still got both achievements including watch

[mighty hemlock]

That's VERY good to hear. Even on standard you basically have to send everyone 6 feet deep

[jagged carbon]

Haven’t played the game in a while how’s it holding up on Xbox?

[mighty hemlock]

Good game. I really like it. Frames are 30fps on fidelity setting, some achivements are bugged. But I like it

[jagged carbon]

So same as when I stoped. Good to see it didn’t get worse. I like the game just waiting for bug fixes then I plan to replay it in chronological order.

[mighty hemlock]

I mean if you only waiting for bug fixes, not a lot has changed since September (That's when I got the game). So uhhh idk if you gon returm

I'm rather new

[jagged carbon]

Well the next dlc is coming out in January isn’t it?

[rocky plover]

yea, however I did it long ago - before hard mode was a thing, so idk if anything changed regarding this matter with the updates we got so far

[mighty hemlock]

Ahh ok. Good to know thanks. Much appreciated

[rocky plover]

you're welcome

[mighty hemlock]

Well Q1. But knowing gane devs it's likely getting pushed back

[jagged carbon]

True but I’m just simply waiting for the game to be a little more polished before I come back to it. Still have a bunch of other games I need to play or finish.

[mighty hemlock]

That's fair

But honestly what's the DLC gonna be about?

[rocky plover]

no idea

[mighty hemlock]

Stupid question shoulda said "What do you think..."

[jagged carbon]

I hope it’s about judges backstory or at least gives us some of it

[mighty hemlock]

Like a prequel?

[jagged carbon]

Maybe or us dealing with ex members of who he worked with before joining swat and we learn more about him through evidence we get.

[rocky plover]

there's so many where it can lead, either events between home invasion and dark waters, or they could also continue with the MLO story

or a completely seperate story, who knows

[mighty hemlock]

Yeah they need to elaborate more on the MLO. It's this shadow organization we know absolutely nothing about

[rocky plover]

yep

[solar hull]

anyone else here got a bug on RON where their mic dont work, Can switch between team and local but pressing my PTT key highlight my name, plays the audio queue, but does not give any input from my mic

[frank kettle]

Does anyone else experience performance drops on Sinuous Trail?

[tired cosmos]

if I watch my ai shoot straight through another human shield im gonna lsoe it

it cannot be that hard

[solid stirrup]

can anyone recommend me fun weapons to use? I love using magnum and shotguns but like I wanted to expand my taste

[wide verge]

LVAR
SR16

[silent ermine]

guys i migth or migth not be stuck on twisted nerve

[latent crescent]

cooked

[latent crescent]

use the mp7

[solid stirrup]

Word

[solid stirrup]

Word Ty

[silent ermine]

what weapon should i use and its often that i can't find all the civillians

[wind gyro]

#📃unit-promo-signup

[latent crescent]

shotgun

m1014

take right house first, dont do garden

go upstairs, clear upstairs and report money cache and drug storage, then go to the bridge

cross the bridge, clear the meth room then go clear attic, go down and report the meth lab

go to the corridor, clear the left rooms and report the 2nd meth lab

clear main entrance from upstairs then move down the stairs and clear bottom floor

go to the garden and clear garden, watching for the people who are a level up between the two sheds

enter one of the sheds, and clear the tunnels/sheds

you should have order to chaos then

[frank kettle]

Try using a shotgun. Either the M104 or B1301. It's also really dark everywhere, so use your NVGs instead of just a flashlight.

Also, be very careful in bedrooms. Junkies can and do hide under beds and inside closets with knives.

Don't get stabbed in the throat like I did first attempt.

[latent crescent]

ouch, i managed to clear it first try but getting shanked really sucks in this game

[quaint sky]

i was stuck there too my first time bc i couldnt find all the civilians

[thorn egret]

Y'know
I've always seen those buildings in the background of the main menu and thought like
What if we got a map in the city 👁️
LIke, iunno, an office complex or something

[thorn egret]

Consider killing them
(I do that when it gets super annoying on that map lol)

[hidden finch]

I just got bombed on Neon tomb lol

thought the 2 people i had downed would be all in the hallway and then some guy hides behind a pillar and BOOM

[small hound]

Was ides of march harder before the updates? I know difficulty is subjective, and I've never done S-rank runs (im completely content with dead or alive). Im a thoroughly bad fps player, but I've been playing this recently and it's uhhhh not that bad? i could complete it multiple times, and this is coming from someone who couldnt complete neon tomb after 3 days straight of trying.

[jolly verge]

No, unless you playing on casual difficulty

[small hound]

im playing on standard, i think

[vestal mauve]

Ides of March on release was bullshit

[mighty hemlock]

I think you just got better at the game

Your skill improved

[crude prism]

There was a time period (pre weapon fire-rate standardization and armor fixes) where the M249 dude would be firing 5.56 AP at like 850rpm and 2 tap through ceramic, so... yeah?

But the whole game was like that.

[cedar mulch]

Are the suspect's M249 and RPD merely oversized rifles on paper?

[crude prism]

They shoot slower than rifles and have very high capacity, but don't do extra damage or anything, no.

(comically slower than their real-life firerates in some cases like the M249)

[cedar mulch]

Is the Drum mag M4 classified as a rifle or an LMG in the game?

[crude prism]

Apparently it's an LMG lol (specifically the one with a CMAG)

[stable kernel]

Damn spreadsheet man dropping the useless facts

At least the m249 isn't the only lmg

Twas so lonely

[dapper mural]

Wait are lmgs in the base game for pc or are they mods???

[crude prism]

Base game, but only suspects get their hands on em

[dapper mural]

Alr

[stable kernel]

RPD doesn't count cause it was never player usable (pls fix VOID). At least the drum mag m4 is close enough to the mk18

[crude prism]

Load bearing (edited) on semantics

[deft wadi]

A lot and I mean a lot needs to be fixed on this game. AI running in front of you, the stupid traps that never allow you to pull out wire cutters. Civilians that never respond to commands even after you have given them multiple commands.

[cedar mulch]

The Drum MK18's reloading action is even copied from an LMG.

[stable kernel]

Would be a shame if that message disappeared

[deft wadi]

What drum mk18 are you guys talking about? I don’t even see the mod lol

[cedar mulch]

Narcos possess the MK18 drum magazine.

Ine or two Los Locos members armed with drum-fed MK18s may spawn near the undercover agent.

[dapper granite]

narcos doesn't have los locos

it's a different gang I think

[surreal pelican]

Mm.. can elaborate? Sorry I don't really understand. So split two teams one to breach the door inside and the other team go breach outside?

[maiden sequoia]

Is the armour pen description for AP blackout compare to AP 762x51 just BS? Or can blackout AP only effectively work against medium armour (lvl 2-3)

[lost inlet]

.300 AP can pens all armour.

[maiden sequoia]

Lovely so the descriptions have mislead me

[lost inlet]

Every rifle AP round can pen lvl4 plates.

[cedar mulch]

These are los locos, with only two targets said to be members of the Sonoran Cartel.

Los Locos and the Sonoran Cartel may have a hierarchical relationship, with the latter providing funding.

Los Locos boss maybe one of the minor leaders within the Sonora Cartel or something else entirely; Los Locos is effectively a subordinate organisation of the Sonora Cartel.

[primal gate]

Any ETA's on the announcement or arrival dates of game updates?

[lost inlet]

no.

[primal gate]

booooooo

[lost inlet]

coming in early next year, probably.

[primal gate]

I hope

[vale sparrow]

fuh nah I’m pissed

I was so close to A ranking hide and seek

then some stupid suspect just had to go and kill a hostage

the last suspect and civ happened to be together

I just want that vest

nvm turns out I wasn’t close to A rank since I killed every suspect

I might just have to go non lethal and get S

[rocky plover]

Yea

[surreal pelican]

Nice, for me what I did was just make them breach the door as a element while I cleared the outer patio

Had to backtrack a bit too since I started at first floor

[rocky plover]

Ye that works too

[clever rain]

i've been thinking of buying one of the dlcs, which of the two dlc do you guys think is worth getting?

[rocky plover]

Well it's down to personal preference tbh, Home Invasion maps are more CQB focused because they're mostly indoors with the exception of Narcos map where it's a mix, while Dark Waters maps are bigger and mostly outdoors, they're both nice in their own way

[clever rain]

alright ill look into it more thanks for your input

[rocky plover]

👍

@surreal pelican lined them up, now light them up! lol

[surreal pelican]

"There's a target on your back, son.."

I love the rogue secret service outfit

[rocky plover]

😂

[rocky plover]

yea it's cool

[surreal pelican]

Spent like 20 mins lining them up coz they refused to cooperate and stay lol

[rocky plover]

hahah

[surreal pelican]

Switched back to ARN and now it feels more smooth on Sins

[rocky plover]

what were you using then?

[cedar mulch]

To be honest, if the Narcos map were any larger, I'd say it more closely resembles the grand scale of DLC2.

Personally, I reckon Leviathan is only slightly larger than Narcos.

There are exceptions to the soundtrack; both Beachfront and dealership feature Mexicans, yet the soundtrack contains no theme music dedicated to them.

However, it is rather peculiar both Lawmaker and Leviathan have featured the soundtracks for The Ides of March and Sins of the Father respectively.

[rocky plover]

True, I wish they made narcos map suspects be mostly indoors, would make for a very nice cqb map

[half kiln]

Will they ever implement cross-progression in the game? I recently bought a PC and would like to buy the game again, but I don't want to have to get an S rank on all the missions again.

[jolly verge]

Use a mod or 100% save file

[tacit gull]

It's unlikely they'll add that

[tacit gull]

Both lawmaker and leviathan feature the ecoterrorists who are bundled in with the lost, as in every faction with good intentions turned terrorist

It is kinda dumb to bunch in kids with dyed hair with veterans but 🤷‍♂️

I do think it would be kinda cool to hear some muted guitar strings on beachfront yeah

[whole plume]

Extremely

[stone bay]

Guys I might need help with sm

Im trying to play with someone he plays on a steam deck and I play on ps but I can’t invite him to join

It says EOS_InvalidUser

[whole plume]

Shotguns make Hard so much more bearable

Insta killing them at range and CQ is huge

No more worrying about shot placement, just line up the dot and RT- instant gratification

[tacit gull]

Does that mean you cannot login to epic games?

[rocky plover]

ye they're op

[stone bay]

Well I can login but idk him

[tacit gull]

well ask him

[final jacinth]

guys, is all S rank on hard diff even possible?

next mission is greased palms, i have already beaten it on normal diff for S rank

[floral gorge]

my character nvg is not visible at freecam. what about yo guys?

[rocky plover]

yeah, just makes you wanna go insane

[final jacinth]

can you give any professional advice? i have 100 hours in the game but i still feel like im a noob

[floral gorge]

play

and exercise CQB

ROE too.

[tacit gull]

do neither and use the flashbang launcher

[rocky plover]

1. abuse free lean as much as you can (can see suspects without them seeing you)
2. use m32a1 launcher if you have it (even for swat AI)
3. take it very slow
4. mirror gun is op, not just for doors but even around corners or above stuff but personally I prefer the m320 flash launcher so i can have more flash rounds
5. practice, practice, practice

[tacit gull]

its also just up to getting lucky that the ai doesnt 2 tap you in the head

[final jacinth]

i will on purpose stay on beanbag and dont swtich to m32a1

and yeah free lean is op, especially throwing grenades w it

[rocky plover]

it's doable with beanbag as well, much better than any of the pepperball guns, but with m32a1 launcher it's much easier

[final jacinth]

pepperball is just ass

[rocky plover]

agree, especially after gas nerf, it got even worse

[final jacinth]

who will be using it after the great cs nefr?

[rocky plover]

i still see people using it in public lobbies but yea its ass imo

wasn't that great to begin with and now it's even worse

[final jacinth]

lol whos playing on public lobbies

[rocky plover]

i do

they can be funny, sometimes. xD

[whole plume]

Nah theyre balanced considering how powerful the AIs are

[rocky plover]

[whole plume]

On Hard atleast

I beat the Pagan mission 1st time of asking with it just by using my AI and shooting everything that moved and had a gun

[cedar mulch]

I believe what VOID is actually trying to convey is that they ultimately inflicted irreparable damage upon Los Angeles.

[vale sparrow]

any hints on what the new dlc will be

[rocky plover]

🤷‍♂️

[radiant bane]

Hey guys the development briefing should release soon?

the multi rail looks sick I can't wait

[wind gyro]

"A pot of hot water and the tip of a pencil "

[rustic lotus]

lead is tip of pencil so

is this a reference to lead to toc we got a suspect down here need tems asap

[wind gyro]

a tip of a pencil is graphite

[surreal pelican]

What time does Sins of the Father happen? 03:30 AM or 9:30 AM? I got conflicting times

[surreal pelican]

6. For better effect, have 2x pacifiers, 1x negotiator and 1x armourer. Have the AI use heavy steel while you use light steel for more primary ammo

[rocky plover]

ye always forget bout those, cos i dont play commander mode lol

[surreal pelican]

I did all my S runs on commander mode so I could see that I did it on Hard diff whenever I boot up quick play

And also partially for the traits too

[rocky plover]

i only did commander mode for my ironman run and achievements

S ranks i did them either on quickplay or multiplayer solo

scores still show up

[surreal pelican]

I did commander mode for all achievements and basically S runs including Hard and Ironman

[surreal pelican]

ooo

[rocky plover]

commander helps cos it makes it easier with the traits, i just hate it a lot cos of the therapy system

[surreal pelican]

I have a separate run that’s only standard Ironman S, only did up to Hide And Seek but fuck it bruh

[rocky plover]

and restarting is way less of a hassle on quick play

[surreal pelican]

Yeaaa

[surreal pelican]

This too

Maybe I’m insane that I gave my shield person the TRPL pistol for S build

[rocky plover]

well it's the only viable sidearm for S rank XD

[surreal pelican]

Self defence for the shield guy too

[rocky plover]

says 09:30 but idk, looks to be super dark for that time lmao

[rocky plover]

yea

[rocky plover]

although then on briefing it says 3:30am lol

[surreal pelican]

If it's 9:30 then my only guess is coz heavy rain

[rocky plover]

it's still super dark outside for 9:30 though

[vale sparrow]

nuclear power plant

chernobyl or some shit

yeah I don’t think we gonna understand the hint

[wind gyro]

#🪹the-sepulchre-arg message

[vale sparrow]

how do i A rank port

[vale sparrow]

first thing that came to my mind when I seen graphite

[rocky plover]

don't kill everyone, get quite a bit of arrests, might aswell S rank it, less of a hassle keeping score of arrests/kills

[surreal pelican]

That's the thing

[vale sparrow]

let’s hope the swat ai don’t fuck this up

[rocky plover]

give em all m32a1 flash launchers if you have it and heavy vest with steel full coverage

[vale sparrow]

okay

if I put it on casual will I still unlock the items

[rocky plover]

not sure bout cosmetics, but for achievements needs to be standard or above

[jolly verge]

Yes

[vale sparrow]

bruh one of the ai officers died

hopefully I’ll still get an A I’m looking for this weapon container

hm I’m missing something

[subtle palm]

Ur better off solo

[vale sparrow]

I’ve closed the container doors found the auction room reported illegal drugs container located weapon container brought order to chaos and rescued all civs

[rocky plover]

they're marked with spider on them and a flashlight on the floor will be pointed at them

[rocky plover]

oh most likely weapons evidence then

[vale sparrow]

ah it was my downed officer

okay I got an A+

[rocky plover]

nice

[cedar mulch]

To be perfectly honest, I reckon even without the streamer incident, it was only a matter of time before Spider was uncovered. There's been an undercover agent in the car dealership for ages.

[rocky plover]

yea

[surreal pelican]

A play on the dishonor thing they wrote, I mean they betrayed the senator

Tho I really feel bad and sympathise with the left behind

[rocky plover]

yea

[solar hull]

greased palms on hardmode is fucking insane, think I got it A+ on hardmode, took me over an hour

[surreal pelican]

The Clemente hotel has 14 stories right? My assumption is that the lower floors is maybe the non executive suites?

Coz the mission briefing said the place where the senator family is staying at is on the 14th story

And then we can see the lower floors that we can't access thru the roof

[rocky plover]

yes and ye mostly likely

[surreal pelican]

Feel bad for the secret service agents too, the 2 loyal one

[whole plume]

I hate Rust Belt, so much

[surreal pelican]

There's only 1 I encountered throughout the game which was this bald guy with the vest

Poor guy was afraid and cowering unarmed

[surreal pelican]

Me too

[whole plume]

Especially on Hard, the AI teammates are dumb and they can see and hit you when you can't hit them

[surreal pelican]

There was once I mistook him for one of the rogues coz I was in the middle of hallway firefight with the rogue (white shirt one) and THEN the loyal secret service agent started SPRINTING towards me and I almost shot him

[surreal pelican]

Yea, rust belt fucks the AI pathfinding up especially when I order them to stack and clear

[pliant grotto]

i had to replay rustbelt 6 times because my AI either let me die or they were stupid enough to die

[whole plume]

Yeah, cause I normally just beat everything on Hard commanding the AI

[whole plume]

Yeah that happens alot

[surreal pelican]

Same here

[whole plume]

Beating it on S rank was a pain, just mainly involved luck and lots of beanbags

[pliant grotto]

pissed me right off

[whole plume]

Cause for the achievement (what I am going for atm) officers can die and it doesn't mean anything

[pliant grotto]

i’ only now just started that build and got an S on the first mission lol.. my rank on rustbelt was A

[whole plume]

Yeah I bet lol

[pliant grotto]

i lowkey was raging because tell me why they were just standing there watching me get sprayed down

[whole plume]

Yeah the beanbag is good, so long as you dont give your AIs them

AIs will shoot in the head

Ruining your S Rank

[pliant grotto]

nah they got the pepperballs

[rocky plover]

they dont anymore - was patched

[whole plume]

Oh thats brilliant I wasn't aware

[rocky plover]

still the best thing to give them is the m32a1 flash launcher, if you have it

[whole plume]

Yeah I do

[pliant grotto]

hm i’ll have to try it

[rocky plover]

even for yourself, it's so good

[whole plume]

Does it make S rank more easily obtainable?

[rocky plover]

yes, a lot!

[pliant grotto]

this is my first time playing the game in 2 years so i’m a bit behind

[pliant grotto]

oh coolio!!

[rocky plover]

only downside with it, might struggle with ammo economy

[whole plume]

Also I had a bug on Neon where a civ with a vest was immune to everything and wouldnt surrender, that annoyed me so much

[whole plume]

I normally run 5 primary "mags" will that do?

[rocky plover]

i take 4 for the beanbag, but for the m32a1 launcher i fill all slots for it, except 1 for taser

[whole plume]

Strange, for my 5 mags it only seems to have given me 2 drums worth of ammo, and even then not a full one of that

[rocky plover]

so with light armor, 12 slots for m32a1 and 1 taser

that will be, 18 shots of m32a1 flashes

[pliant frost]

ahh using m32a1

[pliant grotto]

i will be using this for my next run

[rocky plover]

it should be 8 shells per "mag"

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

and m320 launcher too as long tactical (another 4 flashes lol)

[whole plume]

Aight so I just set it to 10 "mags"

Gonna try see if it makes Neon Tomb doable

[rocky plover]

wait i was referring this for the beanbag

[whole plume]

That or Greased Palms

[rocky plover]

for the m32a1 launcher, first 6 shots are free, then 1 "mag" is 1 shell

[whole plume]

Oh, whoops lol

[whole plume]

Noted, so with 10 I get 16 shots

[rocky plover]

so first drum is full for free

[whole plume]

So I need to use them carefully!

[rocky plover]

then 6 slots for it is another full drum

[surreal pelican]

Hard mode ach?

[pliant grotto]

praying this makes getting S rank easier

[rocky plover]

ye 2 drums and 3rd almost full

[whole plume]

"Im too old for this"

[surreal pelican]

Ah that

[whole plume]

Thats the name of it

That and the all S rank

[surreal pelican]

Goodluck brotha, for that I just ran M32A1 flash launchers

[rocky plover]

you basically don't need pinpoint accuracy with it, neither do the swat AI, just fire in a general direction, boom easy stun, might get more than 1 with 1 shot too

and it's instantaneous

[whole plume]

Wpuld you reccomend it for Greased Palms? That has been a Ballache to say the least

[rocky plover]

ye hell ye, for all maps

[whole plume]

Ive had it all this time, but never even tried it

[rocky plover]

i had tried it in early access, it was op but sadly was not reloadable only 6 shells and that's it, that's how I knew it was overpowered

[whole plume]

Aight this time I will get S rank on GP, and get it done

[rocky plover]

and now we can reload it, so even better lol

[whole plume]

I ain't even gona try S rank on Hard lol

There's no achievement for it atleast

[rocky plover]

true

but since you're going with m32a1, might as well haha

[whole plume]

Maybe once I have got all cleared at Hard ect

This has been hard enough, all S rank and Hard Clear lol

Not impossible like some say, but a high challenge nontheless

[rocky plover]

yeah S ranks take a while to get used to

and need more patience compared to lethal play

[pliant grotto]

i was shocked i even got S on thank you come again im not ready to even try the others

[rocky plover]

the command to move suspects towards you is also very underrated, makes arresting suspects much safer

[rocky plover]

nice, good luck on the others, don't give up, just practice!

[whole plume]

Note to self, run flash goggles lol

[rocky plover]

yes + ballistic mask cos why not xd

[whole plume]

Aye

I need to redo my kits

Ive been putting it off because of the impending loadout update, but I think time is now

[rocky plover]

all my kits are with helmet + gpnvg + anti flash goggles + ballistic mask

since gas was nerfed

[whole plume]

Yeah same I only use flashbangs

[rocky plover]

yea me too

[whole plume]

Should I make dedicated AI kits with diffrent level guns or no?

Also surely there is no reason not to give AI beanbags now they dont headshot

[rocky plover]

if ya want, personally i have 1 less lethal loadout for them (for all 4 of them)

[rocky plover]

ye but m32a1 is better so

[jolly verge]

There is and it called M32A1

[rocky plover]

xD

[pliant grotto]

oh we giving it to the bots too?

[whole plume]

Atm I have like "AR [Role], SMG [Role], NL [Role], BR [Role]"

[rocky plover]

ofc, the best!

[whole plume]

Im just unsure if I need it

Would one "role" kit I can change the guns on just be better?

[rocky plover]

i have that, just for myself though

[whole plume]

Also for Lethal Sidearm, what is best?

Surely its 57

[jolly verge]

MK-V

[rocky plover]

ye or mk5

personally i only take the mk5 if im using shield though

[whole plume]

AI arent very good with it from my experience, but for myself yeah

I found your reccomendation of ARN very good

They smoke people with it

[rocky plover]

ye it's a very good and versatile gun

[jolly verge]

Swat ai don't care about gun recoil so you can give them any .300blk or 7.62x39 weapon and they will perform the same

It's only about caliber and ammo type

[whole plume]

I always run AP

[rocky plover]

try jhp its even better (for .300 blackout or higher)

only need to change to ap for 3 maps

[jolly verge]

AP🤮
JHP

[whole plume]

I was always told JHP is worthless, unless they changed it

[whole plume]

Those being?

[rocky plover]

well 5.56jhp ye maybe, but for .300 blackout or higher use jhp they still penetrate till L3 armor

and only 3 maps have more than 1 suspect with L4 armor

[rocky plover]

sins of the father, leviathan and elephant

[whole plume]

Thanks

[rocky plover]

on these maps I switch from ARN with JHP, to a rifle with 5.56 AP

[whole plume]

Noted 🙂 thanks

[rocky plover]

👍

[whole plume]

Does the AI care how much GL ammo it is allocated?

Or will it have infinte

[rocky plover]

can assign 0 ammo for it for them, they will have infinite

i gave them 0 ammo primary, 1 ammo for TRPL, 2 c2, 2 wedges, the rest of slots all flashbangs

[whole plume]

Thats good

[rocky plover]

as long as you give them 1 mag, they will have infinite

the exception is with the m32a1, cos they already have 6 free shells, which becomes infinite for them anyways

[whole plume]

AI (and I) seems terrible with these things

[rocky plover]

with m32a1 launcher?

[drowsy chasm]

Why did they get rid of the blood mist when you shoot someone

[whole plume]

Yeah

[whole plume]

I beat SOTF using the beanbags

[rocky plover]

you sure you chose the flash variant and not the gas variant? lol

[whole plume]

Yeah

Ai are just shooting us anyway, so I went to Beanbag and insta beat it

[rocky plover]

that's weird, it's the most overpowered shit

[whole plume]

Yeah so I hear, my AI and the enemies dont seem to care tho, they just let me get shot like its nothing

[rocky plover]

instant stun just like beanbag only better because doesnt require precise aim

O_o

[whole plume]

Hmm, how bizzare

I barely beat SotF at S rank lol

Me and my team were all one hit from death xD

[unkempt kayak]

Anyone want to play ready or not

[rocky plover]

damn lol, well it's one of the hard missions tbh, suspects there have quite the arsenal

[whole plume]

Yeah, its mainly those big open rooms that get you

And long fatal funnel corridors

[rocky plover]

ye

[rocky plover]

go to #🔎looking-for-players

[surreal pelican]

I wanna try the 870 CQB, what's your opinion on it?

I mean it has the same tube count as M1014

[rocky plover]

never tried it tbh, just another pump action shotgun

[surreal pelican]

I'm gonna go try it on Sins of the Father buckshot tmr

[rocky plover]

well m1014 is semi auto though

[rocky plover]

it has the lowest recoil technically but it's a pump action so recoil doesnt matter that much on a pump action

[surreal pelican]

Yup

[rocky plover]

lol, good luck, personally never tried the 870cqb and supernova, b1301 and m1014 are op, 590m was the only pump action I tried and I like it cos its mag fed at least

[surreal pelican]

Btw, is there a way to change the animation of the AI doing shotgun breach from frontal door kick to backward door kick?

[surreal pelican]

Semi auto saved me in situations where there was too many enemies at one go

[rocky plover]

yeah or follow up shots, which you will need on Sins of the Father tbh so pump action will struggle a bit there xD

[surreal pelican]

Thanks ,

My strategy is to just fuck it aim for head, no point trying to go for chest vest

[rocky plover]

yea deffo

[surreal pelican]

Yuuup.. that'll train with aiming I guess lel

[rocky plover]

not that i know of

[surreal pelican]

Damn.. so situational I guess

[rocky plover]

Ye i might be mistaken on this tho, so don't quote me on it

[runic prism]

sorry guys, someone knows if Void will bring balaclavas in single player in the next update pls?

[rocky plover]

no idea, your best bet rn is mods i guess (if you're on pc)

[surreal pelican]

Ye, coz ive seen my AI do both before

[runic prism]

it's just sad man, i can't understand their problem with that

[surreal pelican]

Imma go sleep, thanks metal and goodnight

[rocky plover]

good night!

[rocky plover]

ye idk why they did it in MP and not SP

[runic prism]

well thanks anyways

[rocky plover]

👍

[simple light]

What’s the easiest way to beat greased palms

[whole plume]

They added Lethal traps on Hard to SotF

?! Now this is really hard

[rocky plover]

yes, on standard they're only flashbang ones xD on that map

[whole plume]

Yeah, I lost 2 officers (to an SS guy rushing us on auto whilst they were stacked) but we got it done

[rocky plover]

damn

[whole plume]

So long as you beat all main objectives, it counts for the achievement

And no civ got killed, all SS ones were blasted

[rocky plover]

yea need B score or higher too

[whole plume]

Really?

[rocky plover]

ye for the hard achievement

[whole plume]

I mean its not an issue- I got a B after all, but still

I have been getting As and Bs

[rocky plover]

ye that's good

as long as you dont fail main objectives, get all soft objectives and evidence and dont get penalties, you should be good

[dapper granite]

Dealership has music from port in it, I think it's supposed to be connected more to the spider than the cartel

[rocky plover]

yeah containers in port have the spider emblem too

[dapper granite]

Twisted nerve is also basically the start of the los locos storyline but doesn't feature their leitmotif in it

Probably since they're not really present on the map themselves but from the briefing we know they definitely have something to do with it

Whole meth cooking operation might even be theirs

[dapper granite]

One of the soft objectives on dealership is to report a whiteboard/shredded documents containing human trafficking records

On the whiteboard there's a line leading directly to port hokan

[rocky plover]

yeah

[dapper granite]

Neither valley of the dolls or the spider's soundtracks have any references to those 2 levels but it's still heavily apparent they're connected to the same faction

Instead they have their own musical cues that get referenced in streamer and the mindjot datacenter missions

So really, the fact that neither ends of the earth or dealership have musical ties to los locos doesn't mean that much. I think their presence in those levels is just not that important so the music reflects that too

Which just makes it even weirder when the 2 missions starring the UPF have references to the left behind

[whole plume]

Finally, beat Neon Tomb at Hard

The last guy was an IED one, and I jumped

It was that intense, I was screaming at them to get down IRL lol

Now to beat it on Hard

Sounds like its gonna be ARN for my team, and beanbag for me so I can get Quadamah alive

[dapper granite]

If you let your team get quadamah they won't kill him

They'll just incap him which still counts

[whole plume]

Really? They're trained not to kill him?

[dapper granite]

I think it's programmed that way so they don't ruin your mission objectives

Same thing happens with Michael on streamer or Gerard

I've seen Michael tank 2 buckshot rounds to the chest from one of my guys and they still reported him as incapacitated

Normally he'd die from just one round

[whole plume]

They've killed him for me before

Damn Neon on Hard is tough

They tank everything

[surreal harbor]

guys which dlc do yall think is better, dark waters or home invasion?

[dapper granite]

I didn't actually know suspects have higher health on hard until I played hide and seek

[whole plume]

Home Invasion

[wind gyro]

home invasio

[surreal harbor]

ok thx

[whole plume]

Yeah they do, its really noticeable (unless you use a Shotgun)

If you use a shotgun, then yeah- they still get royally killed anyway

[dapper granite]

Since I played all of the prior missions with non lethals only first, then tried hide and seek with lethals and was surprised they can tank one shot of 7.62 before dying

[dapper granite]

Yeah that's what I did xD

[whole plume]

Indeed, its mainly what I am doing

The second I see someone, bang, done

[dapper granite]

It doesn't work that well when they have armor tho

[whole plume]

I am using the M1014 mainly cause I like it from COD4 (Campaign)

[dapper granite]

Unless you target their limbs

Then it's still insta kill

[whole plume]

Yeah aim for the head or limbs

A sethered limb is still death

Instantly

[dapper granite]

M1014 is goated tho

May be inferior to the b13 but looks way better

[rocky plover]

Won't say inferior, both pretty good, like ye b13 can hold 1 more shell in the tube, has 20% less recoil, but the m1014 has much better reload speed, aesthetics and animations

[dapper granite]

See that's proper balancing right there

Sexy gun or shit looking gun but stronger

[rocky plover]

They tried! 🤣

I've ditched both and been using 590m lately though lol

Yeah it's a pump action and all that but I love the mag-fed thing, it makes reloading so quick

[dapper granite]

590 is so fucking loud tho I can't stand it

[rocky plover]

True and highest recoil xD

But since it's a pump action, its barely noticeable

[dapper granite]

I like the supernova more

[rocky plover]

Never tried it

Never tried pump actions tbh apart from beanbag and now 590m

Merely because pump actions always felt like a downgrade until we got this magazine fed pump action

[dapper granite]

Yeah but pumping it is satisfying

They gotta add a double barrel one day please void

I know it doesn't make sense for swat to use it but neither does like 50% of the weapons so

[rocky plover]

Semi auto mag fed when or semi auto drum lol

[rocky plover]

True

[dapper granite]

Saiga 🙏

[rocky plover]

Yeah or spaz or aa12

[dapper granite]

Suspects already use it just give it to us

[rocky plover]

Ikr, same with m249 🤣

The nice thing with supernova is the more optic choices but then again even 590m got those options

[dapper granite]

M249 😭

From saving lives to commiting war crimes

[rocky plover]

Hahah

[dapper granite]

"our mission is not to create widows and orphans" my ass

That is precisely judge's mission once he gets his hands on the m249

[rocky plover]

Lmao

[dapper granite]

Saving one whole mag for voll and brixley alone

[rocky plover]

Hell ye 😂

[civic bear]

this game is so hard

[rocky plover]

Practice. Practice. Practice

Gets easier, you got this.

[dapper granite]

It never gets easier

[rocky plover]

It does, just not on hard mode

😂😅

[dapper granite]

If a suspect deletes 70% of my health on my first encounter I'm instantly restarting xD

[rocky plover]

I kinda do the same sometimes

[simple light]

Hitler is alive and he is on greased palms

[dapper granite]

Say less

[languid harness]

We know

[latent crescent]

[tired jungle]

You ever just... Be good and not get hit

People go through greased palms too fast

It isn't a difficult map, you're just in a hurry

[simple light]

Greased palms should be completely deleted

[simple light]

I don’t even rush it bro

There’s too many enemies and boxes

[tired jungle]

Skill issue tbh

I've played greased palms without taking damage

[dapper granite]

okay it's not that bad 😭

[simple light]

Yeah well tbf I just started playing RoN 2 days ago

Wanted to play since you pretty much could but never had the device for it

What is the best way to get it finished

[tired jungle]

Get what finished

[simple light]

I mean what’s the best way to do greased palms

[gritty nova]

Sooo.... is the game completely dead after the censorship?

[dapper granite]

avoid that middle room in the in the warehouse like the plague

play around it, and then try clearing it from the catwalk at the top

[dapper granite]

not at all?

[wind gyro]

its getting more and more players since the downfall

[gritty nova]

I am thinking of buying it but from what I see most of the community is dead seriously angry with the censorship stuff and refuses to listen to any argument they receive in response

[wind gyro]

those are the people on reddit

[gritty nova]

And on any other platform too

[wind gyro]

all you need is 1 mod to revert the censorship

[wind gyro]

lets say mostly on reddit then

[tired jungle]

You section off the map into smaller areas with wedges, leave the warehouse last. Work the warehouse from doors and the loading area as much as possible before entering and once you do enter go very slow. You should hug a wall so that the threat window is always what you see

[dapper granite]

tbf the censorship isn't even that bad

at least on pc it isnt

[gritty nova]

Oh really? So there is a mod that actually reverts it

[drifting bison]

Hi

[gritty nova]

And people still complain

[dapper granite]

might be a little excessive on cosnoles but I've not played that version

[gritty nova]

I'm only considering pc anyway

[dapper granite]

there is a mod to revert it on pc then

[wind gyro]

you literally click mods in game you dont have to go to an external website and then create/login into mod.io and click subscribe on uncensored or not. its that easy

[dapper granite]

either way, the pc version only added underwear to like 3 characters and made it so you cant delimb dead corpses anymore

thats about it

[gritty nova]

Yeah I know I've seen what they censored and literally the only thing that could be the reason of all the complaints is the girl that overdosed something

Getting changed to sleeping instead

As you might just miss the lore or something idk

[dapper granite]

the changes on console are kinda unnecessary tbh but console stores forced them to do it

[tired jungle]

It's not that deep.

[dapper granite]

also I think there could've been some double standards because games like baldurs gate 3 get away with it

[tired jungle]

Context matters

[gritty nova]

Well people are weird in the end... I'm not even looking to revert it as I'm mostly considering buying it because of the gameplay and I don't need to see those things that got censored

[dapper granite]

also have you seen the trailer for divinity?
also from the same devs who made baldurs gate 3

[tired jungle]

No

[gritty nova]

Yeah because they are AAA studios who get away with stuff like that, sadly that is the reality

[simple light]

Yeah that’s what I’m doing now and it’s going better

[wind gyro]

ron is a small indie game

[dapper granite]

like I said, the pc censoring is kinda non-existent, but the console version is where it goes too far imo

most importantly voll's basement

[gritty nova]

I kinda understand how people can be upset about it as it shows the raw reality of what it looks like in real life, but it's really not that big of a deal, ESPECIALLY if there are mods to revert it

[dapper granite]

the lspd probably wouldn't even be able to convict him if the censored version was actually canon xD

[dapper granite]

console versions dont have access to mods

[gritty nova]

Yes I know, but they are not the ones complaining

[dapper granite]

but yeah the pc crowd is just overreacting tbh

[gritty nova]

They could either get the game censored or never get the game