👮ron-discussion

[icy oriole]

It's probably just my imagination, but I was wondering it maybe it isn't.

[rocky plover]

It's a mixed bag however, they either know your position and get suspicious and come check, which can work in your favour to bait them, or they can take up a better position and pre aim your direction which makes things worse

[jolly verge]

Nah

[icy oriole]

Turn on light, hear threat voice line. "NO FULL AUTO IN THE BUILDING!".

[rocky plover]

🤣

[covert aurora]

LOL

[covert aurora]

"call your hits bro!"

[icy oriole]

When the AI eat a mag without flinching.

[covert aurora]

lol

[icy oriole]

I posted some of my kit photos that I based my RoN officers on in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art .

[covert aurora]

looks good!

[surreal pelican]

Flashlight blinds them?

[tidal sleet]

doesn’t do shit when I do it

Then again I shoot them dead before they can react

[surreal pelican]

Lol

I've only started using flashlights on maps like buy cheap buy twice

Pretty sweet, but I wish there would be use cases as to where we can use the flashlight on bright maps for effects like blinding them

[tidal sleet]

I always have one, never once used a laser

[surreal pelican]

You just keep it on throughout the mission or just flash em at suspect? I wanna try using it on bright maps too even tho unpractical

[tidal sleet]

I only use it when needed

like darker areas of a map or to check doors

[surreal pelican]

Got it, will continue trying it out

The suspects will pre aim at the flashlight direction right? If they see it

[tidal sleet]

yeah I use it as a precausion rarely in a gunfight since kinda inpractical

[tidal sleet]

I’m not sure they might

[surreal pelican]

Heard they'll get suspicious, that's why I only really used it on dark maps like BCBT

Other than that flashlight teaches you how to properly aim without relying on laser ig

[tidal sleet]

I’ve kinda always been able to hit headshots with point aim at distance so can’t really say

[surreal pelican]

Nice

[tidal sleet]

even done hostage shit with point aim from 20ft+

[surreal pelican]

For me the laser helps with headshots, never really used my sight

(only canted)

[surreal pelican]

gg nice

[tidal sleet]

I sometimes do just depends mainly point aim is what I do so I can see what the suspect has

[surreal pelican]

Deadass, I've only used my optic sight for long range engagements

[quasi coral]

Oh same here then

But since I constantly have a PEQ-15 on my rifle, tilting the gun is a little less reliable

[tidal sleet]

Even at longer range like Greased Palms I’ll still use point aim and drop em

I just put the center of my screen on em and start blasting

[surreal pelican]

Nice

[sacred dagger]

why dont i see port hokan mission when i look in the mission thingy?

[surreal pelican]

I use canted sights with the PEQ for close fights, switching to optic for long range

[surreal pelican]

Gotta do missions in order in commander mode to unlock it in quick play

[sacred dagger]

oh really? dang

[surreal pelican]

Ya

[tidal sleet]

I thought you just had to do them in quick play to unlock the next ones

[surreal pelican]

I just did everything in commander mode and it unlocked in quick play

[tidal sleet]

I remember being on neon tomb and in quick play I could do port

they mighta changed it from how it was during 1.0

[torpid onyx]

do you have the mod to give it a visable laser

cos like if youre unironcially using the peq just for the infared laser thats crazy

[tacit gull]

Wrong

[quasi coral]

Not at all lolol
Because my love for the PEQ-15 is stronger than the Thumb clipping bug, the clear lack of a visible laser and no illuminator

[tacit gull]

You can unlock any mission by starting it in an online lobby

You can also unlock missions by playing through in quickplay

[sacred dagger]

Oh okay

[surreal pelican]

PEQ-15 the best laser

Imma try using the flashlight more often than not now

[quasi coral]

Flashing suspects is always better than not

[surreal pelican]

Yea

But I still have my teammates using the PEQ-15 with suppressors so I can tell what they're aiming at and differentiate their gunfire

Or wait.. would the flashlight be a better option? Since I'm already using the flashlight to see areas

[quasi coral]

I mean your teammates might flash it around and get ya'll spotted

[surreal pelican]

True

That's why I only have the flashlight on me

One source of illumination

[quasi coral]

The guiding light

[torpid onyx]

only under nvg though

[torpid onyx]

you can already trust your teammates are gonna be yelling for compliance at an enemy through a wall before you or him even realise each other are there so I doubt the flashlight is gonna change anything

[surreal pelican]

I use the visible one, I think I gave the wrong name

[surreal pelican]

In that case I think might as well give them the flashlight too

[torpid onyx]

yeah the visable laser is just called like "laser pointer" or smth

[torpid onyx]

too?

[quasi coral]

Painful as shi, which is why a toggle for Officer Aggression is a must

[surreal pelican]

Giving my ai the flashlight since they can somehow smell and shout at the suspects at places I can't see

[torpid onyx]

also you might as well just keep the laser it's not like your teammates benifit from a light

[surreal pelican]

I guess

[torpid onyx]

also your teammates will genuinely blind you with their flashlights btw

so it actually works against you

[surreal pelican]

I see

[tacit gull]

do we think we'll get p90 sights in the new attachment update

[quasi coral]

No

[quasi coral]

But we will 100% be getting an Eotech/ Magnifier combo RIGHT DEVS??

[jolly verge]

First the gotta make the mag transparent on it

[dusky swallow]

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[lost inlet]

eww white member.

[stone bay]

Pimmelblown

[robust yarrow]

Is there a date for the attachments update? I've been out of loop sry

[robust yarrow]

Me when I spread misinformation online

[surreal pelican]

?? I thought you had to do missions in comm. mode to unlock them in quick play?

[quasi coral]

Negative

Prayers and tears for January though, it'll release Q1 of 2026

[robust yarrow]

You just play a mission in quick play and it unlocks the next mission

[robust yarrow]

Thoughts and prayers

[surreal pelican]

oh

[quasi coral]

No I'm tearing up praying for the update

HYBRID sights man

[robust yarrow]

Are they adding variable magnification for the, you know, variable magnification optics?

[quasi coral]

Yes, they say they would for the ATAK but no idea if they're adding it to the Elcan

Same goes for the Hybrid sights, theres one with a Red Dot but they didn't say anything for the eotech..

[robust yarrow]

Hybrid as in piggyback red dot? Cuz that's already in the game

[torpid onyx]

i love when a suspect holding a hostage gets flashed then magically unflashes himself and kills the hostage

[tacit gull]

someone already did

not VOID though

[torpid onyx]

literally in less then a second after the bang while rubbing his eyes just transports himself into the kill hostage animation and kills the hostage (also rubbing their eyes from the flash)

[jolly verge]

BSG also failed to do it and rename text on mag after game release

[rocky plover]

Not in ready or not currently no, we were talking about a game called ground branch and how it would be cool if ready or not had that as well

[rocky plover]

Scrolled quite a bit and couldn't find it, got the exact link?

[surreal pelican]

I hope the Devs will add a mechanic like that

[mighty hemlock]

Would be accurate. Considering that when a suspect does that to me on Leviathan I CANNOT see anything

And ofc the fact that also happens irl (Strobe flashlights)

Plus do you guys have any tips on how to get Sleeper agent (solo). I'm thinking about just getting them all to surrender, safing all weapons (Doing the arrest cancel thing) and after doing that to everyone, just ordering "Search and secure" and hoping for the 15 seconds

[jolly verge]

This or just run and gun

[rocky plover]

Yeah me too

[rocky plover]

Yea would be more realistic

[mighty hemlock]

"Give me your money"
Dying neutron star

[rocky plover]

I did it the loud way but many others I know did it the way you mentioned

For sleeper agent ^

[marsh lark]

Pretty sure that would require flashlight change mode

[rocky plover]

😂

[marsh lark]

Usually operators run with the flashlight blickering several times a second

[rocky plover]

Realistically true yeah, but for example ground branch doesn't have that but still can blind enemies with it

[marsh lark]

Right, but the blickering is going to irritate eyes more.

[rocky plover]

Yeah definitely

[marsh lark]

Would be interesting for sure

[mighty hemlock]

Yup. That's called a strobe light or smth like that

[tacit gull]

That's done to disorient targets, it also can cause epilepsy attacks

Putting it in the game would be mainly pointless since they can just make the flashlight itself disorient targets normally

[rocky plover]

Yea that's what I said - like ground branch

[marsh lark]

Sure, just saying that that flickering could be interesting too.

[tacit gull]

Hopefully nothing like ground branch

[rocky plover]

Doesn't have to make it more complicated for it to have rework flashlights

Just the effect of it

That's what I meant

[tacit gull]

It depends on how it would work with currently implemented flashlights

[rocky plover]

I mean similarly to GB still better than nothing I guess

[tacit gull]

For example SWAT 4 has flashlights that lower morale and make suspects more likely to surrender, however a bug with how flashlights are handled in engine will make them pass through levels (atleast theoretically) infinitely

there's some other games that do flashlight disorienting but they dont come to mind

It would make sense to make it so if you turn on the light after you spot them has a chance to stagger them or something

It would be cool for light discipline

[rocky plover]

Yeah definitely that's why I said like GB, doesn't have to be an exact same response, but something similar

[tacit gull]

It would definetly be cooler to have like threat assessment stages instead of the stress system where gun fired = suspect violent

[jovial lake]

I feel like playing on lower difficulty is nicer

Fuck that insta aggro aimbot shit

[quasi coral]

Standard is fun and challenging

Hard is challenging and casual is fun

[jovial lake]

Exactly

[jovial lake]

Standard is a nice sweet spot

[quasi coral]

Agreed mah mans

[jovial lake]

I already beat the game on hard but I dont think id like playing that again unless I want an extreme challenge

[quasi coral]

Exactly, hard modes for the challenge

I want to run hard mode sometime but

[steel shard]

Does/has anybody else had an issue with the game detecting a modded game, even though the game is completely vanilla?

[quasi coral]

I'm already struggling with standard 😭
Can't imagine hard difficulty

[rocky plover]

True, agree

[quasi coral]

Yes it was a bug once in Rust Belt, although it's been fixed, what mission did you encounter it?

[steel shard]

Every mission I was in. Including when my friends attempted to join me in a multiplayer lobby without "join modded lobbies" on. I had to uninstall the game and delete every single ready or not file on my PC to fix it

[tacit gull]

if it haoppens in every mission just run the game in safe mode

There's probably a mod file left somewhere in your files

[steel shard]

didnt help, weirdly

[marsh lark]

Even if, I would not be alarmed by this, as it truly changes nothing. It does not invalidate achievements or score or anything else.

[tacit gull]

Oh

really?

[rocky plover]

I mostly play on hard cos I got used to Standard a lot but imho standard is best because hard starts to become way less realistic.

[steel shard]

I searched every single place mods are, none were there.

[quasi coral]

Gaddamn, try getting a screenshot or sum, along with yer mod files

[tacit gull]

that's weird

[quasi coral]

And report it in #🐜archived-bug-reports-channel

[tacit gull]

safe mode genuienly shouldnt load anything other than the og files

[quasi coral]

(Best ya can do)

[steel shard]

For me, it didn't save the score nor time. I beat the PR for time and score in multiple missions, yet it still remained the previous scores.

Luckily that nuclear option fixed it

[tacit gull]

have you tried uninstalling and checking the game folders?

[steel shard]

thats what I did in the end, uninstalling everything.

that worked.

[tacit gull]

ah

that's weird yeah

who knows, maybe a game file got modified somehow

[steel shard]

Yeah, maybe.

[tranquil ivy]

reason why S Rank is not registering? (using just no mercy mod)

[upbeat shore]

Mod is mod still.

[marsh lark]

Furthermore mods do not impact any unlock or registering.

[icy oriole]

I think the mods removed it.

[icy oriole]

I had a similar issue with a broken mod on an earlier build of the game. So, the game saves mod data in a secret folder somewhere in appdata. The mod.io data is also somewhere there. There's a program somewhere in the game files, or used to be, that can automatically find and delete those hidden files, but it's been literal years and I can't remember where to find it. Unfortunately, all I can say is to Google it and see if you can find an answer that addresses that point.

Mod.io is awful. If you have anything through that, it's a nightmare to eliminate.

iirc, the issue is that, if you've ever used the mod.io feature, it saves your selected mods through that, even if you delete all the local files. You need to find the folder that is technically saving that mod.io previous install data.

I tried it once when it was first introduced, and that was what caused the issue, I believe.

[rocky plover]

Oh

[rocky plover]

Yeah I also stumbled upon the so called folder a couple times somewhere in the app data directory. Also can confirm, I never used mod.io but still keep seeing the modio folder in my mod folder reappearing even though I keep removing it 🤣

[icy oriole]

If you're interested in the setup, I can DM you.

[rocky plover]

Try the guns and gear channel, I think it's allowed there

[pale turtle]

Is the bug where casings stay in the air known to the devs?

[tight hawk]

Are they gonna add tactical roombas with a deployeable machine gun?

[bronze shell]

i found one where my officers cant/wont walk through some doorways on Rust Belt even though theres no traps or hostiles

[icy oriole]

I don't see that one. I might be scrolling past itor it's hidden.

[rocky plover]

Have to agree to a specific rule somewhere in the rules channel to be able to see it

[marsh lark]

It is a role

G&G

[icy oriole]

Hmm, I looked through the roles channel and I don't see it. Where can I find that?

[marsh lark]

#role-selection

It is almost at the bottom

[icy oriole]

Oh, now it showed up. I clicked it and it didn't do anything until I reopened it. Weird.

[cedar mulch]

If only VOID retained map variants. I'd love to see each DLC level randomly select different variant scenarios.

Nowadays, everything is formulaic. There's scarcely any replay value.😫

[surreal pelican]

I'm curious, in the car dealership what do they mean for the part where they state the "contract service?" found on the trafficked victim form? (They can be found on the bulletin board soft obj)

Do the victims have to serve a set amount of time before they're free to go from the spider?

[rocky plover]

thanks for clarifying

[chilly thorn]

Prob people buying them out or some fucked shit

I can criticize how this game handled certain topics a lot but I think they handled the human trafficking thing very respectfully.

[weak storm]

Is gas better than flashbangs I take 3 flashbangs but I feel like they only get me 1 or 2 people per grenade

[rocky plover]

currently gas is not working as intended (range)

[wind gyro]

its nerfed

[rocky plover]

ye but it's a known issue, so fingers crossed it gets fixed or at least increase the range a bit more and maybe even stun/second

[wind gyro]

its most likely gonna get buffed, idk why it didnt get in the patches

[rocky plover]

yea at least it's listed in the known issues or else it won't be buffed and would stay how it is, so hopefully it gets fixed/buffed

[jolly verge]

Because they wont buff it

[wind gyro]

let him believe

[rocky plover]

i mean it was too op, so doing something in a way was good to get people to use something else for variety, but it went too far lol

[primal gate]

Guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488347368715059201/1449459179248025782/a9b57bbe-c7c4-4c6e-84ad-d527c8cffa33.png?ex=693ef98d&is=693da80d&hm=dd3359e195835d4fbeb9cc226f405445edd9e26f571630cf53d9804e20837b73&

If that stupid link worked it would show the dev watch

I did it for the second time in two days

But this time I actually had Ironman enabled

[wind gyro]

no embed perms

[surreal pelican]

They do, but I still always go lethal on spider related missions.. just.. no man

[dapper granite]

question, do suspects on leviathan wear body armor?

[rocky plover]

not all, but many of them do especially highest armor

[dapper granite]

also what happened to the blood spraying out of suspects when hit

there used to be like a red mist when you hit someone, now it's just a small particle if you're lucky

[jolly verge]

Yeah, most of them wear level 4

[dapper granite]

really level 4?

[rocky plover]

ye highest armor currently

[jolly verge]

Yeap, one of 3 missions that require to use rifles with AP ammo

[dapper granite]

I thought only the school shooters on elephant had them for some reason

[jolly verge]

Secret service as well

[rocky plover]

^ on sins of the father (not all, most are L3)

[dapper granite]

anyway, was this part of the "optimization" update that also lowered the grahpics or

[rocky plover]

probably

and probably some of the censoring as well

[dapper granite]

naah I doubt they'd go that far for the censorship

I just dont like it because sometimes I cant even tell if I hit the guy or not because the indicator is nearly impossible to notice

[obtuse loom]

this game runs so much better after a year of not playing! the missing cop mission is intense af

[crimson sentinel]

I only copped recently and had a backlog so been chipping away now and then

First time running valley of the dolls

Just loading in

Also fuck the postal office

[stone bay]

I wish the TPL got a buff it basically has no reason to exist when the VPL-25 is there

[rocky plover]

true, even tho it has a faster reload speed and is better in cqb due to it being shorter, it is still not really worth it to use it, especially when it only holds half pepperballs of what the other one can

should have just put in the secondary slot lol, instead of releasing the TRPL imo XD

[stone bay]

yeah that would’ve been better move. i think the TPL should get a full auto option and maybe a bigger bonus from Pacifier than the other non-lethals. it could serve a niche where it’s better if you want to run pacifier but without pacifier the VPL is superior

[rocky plover]

i like the full auto idea ngl, or at least a burst.

[rocky plover]

while your 2nd suggestion sounds good on paper, i think it would be too complicated to make though, and also where would that leave the TRPL, and also that wouldn't matter in multiplayer either

I like the full auto idea though, you should put that in the suggestions/feedback lol

[cloud tree]

Is Ground Branch better

[rocky plover]

well can't really compare them like that, one's a military sim, while the other is a police sim

[cloud tree]

Maybe military sim is better for me

Everything is just larger and complex

[willow solstice]

what does ironman mode do

[marsh lark]

Delete your save if you die.

[willow solstice]

oh...

first mission in an alpha already died'

[storm crest]

Ironman runs are tough

[willow solstice]

uh what. what the FUCK did the people on thank you come again have holy shit

iot one shotted me

[storm crest]

From what I've seen, they have revolvers, some small automatic weapons, and sawn-off shotguns

[willow solstice]

ig a sawn off

that was fucked

[storm crest]

They probably hit you in the head

Helmets don't always help

[mighty hemlock]

On sleeper agent. Does killing suspects count towards the achivement? Or can you ONLY arrest or incap?

[storm crest]

I'm not sure

I don't have the dlcs

[rocky plover]

Both works

[mighty hemlock]

I was thinking about disarming them all, puting all 15 in one corner and just shooting them all

[storm crest]

Oh wait, is it one of the missions you get after beating the main storyline?

[mighty hemlock]

Just I've heard only incap/arrest works towards it

[jolly verge]

You can't be headshoted unless helmet is broken

[mighty hemlock]

3 letter triad. Dark waters

[storm crest]

Noted

[jolly verge]

Killing, incap or arresting, does not matter

[rocky plover]

Yeah that can work, just takes so long, but pretty much saves you the hassle of restarting alot

Meant to reply to your other (earlier) comment

[mighty hemlock]

And if I click arrest, and quickly stop, does that start off time timer?

[storm crest]

Feels like it happens anyways though
I got immediately killed with full HP by a pistol before

[jolly verge]

Nope

[storm crest]

Wrong reply, sorry

[storm crest]

Gotcha

[mighty hemlock]

Awesome

Tnx for the info guys

[rocky plover]

👍

[willow solstice]

is doing non lethal better for mental health

[jolly verge]

Arresting suspect alive yes

[willow solstice]

kk

[jolly verge]

It's not necessary to use less-lethal weapons, you can arrest few suspects alive while using lethal guns just fine

[rocky plover]

Some missions will stress them a lot though even with arrests due to the nature of the mission

[jolly verge]

Nah

Stress gain based on number of killed suspects

[rocky plover]

Really, I swear I had that but then again I pretty much prefer quick player over commander mode

[willow solstice]

okay ig im not s ranking this mission

[jolly verge]

The only mission that always stress officers is Elephant

[rocky plover]

Yeah that was the one that happened on it

[willow solstice]

a person was rushing me, i panicced and FUCKING blew his brains out with a beanbag

[storm crest]

ive had that happen to me before

[jolly verge]

M32A1 is a thing

[rocky plover]

Well for your ironman run I suggest going all out with lethal and ignoring roe too

Easiest way

[storm crest]

I need to S rank 2 more missions before I get the medal of valor

[willow solstice]

holy fuck im having a fucking firefight

[storm crest]

Neon Tomb and Hide and Seek are really tough to beat

[rocky plover]

Just switch officers around and send them to therapy early to avoid them getting toooo much stressed

[jolly verge]

Or simply get 2 negotiators - problem solved

[rocky plover]

Still easier going with lethal id say

[storm crest]

Having a mix of non-lethal and lethal officers seems to be pretty effective for me

[jolly verge]

Every 1/2 suspect will surrender from first compliance shout

[storm crest]

Would having a full team with officers that have the same perk have the effect stack or will a few not count?

[rocky plover]

Some can be stacked some not

[jolly verge]

Depends on trait

[rocky plover]

Although I dont suggest more than 2 for those that stack

Due to diminishing returns

[storm crest]

I wonder how a full team of negotiators will play out

[willow solstice]

okay slawg can my ai not take the longest route to my location

[jolly verge]

Armorer does not stack, intimidator stacks up to 2x, any other trait up to 4x

[rocky plover]

Not a lot of difference from 2 to 4

Better take 2 and take smth else

[mighty hemlock]

Not my mental health

S ranks are pain

[jolly verge]

1 - 25%, 2 - 50%, 3 - 55%, 4 - 60%
There is no point to take more than 2

[storm crest]

Would intimidator also be the same for negotiator?

[storm crest]

Gotcha

[rocky plover]

As he said ^^^

[jolly verge]

Wdym

[storm crest]

This

[rocky plover]

Having 4 Intimidators is same as having 2

If that's what your asking

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[rocky plover]

In terms of stats

[storm crest]

No, but I can do some research later

[rocky plover]

But as he said I would never go above 2 with the same trait due to diminishing returns

Doesn't matter the trait

[storm crest]

I'll keep that in mind

[jolly verge]

Just check this table, I made it as clear as possible https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Znj4rCaM8g6QREFNWwHRBFSdnfdzYM37Y5AeHQ10rtg/edit?usp=drivesdk

With video examples

[storm crest]

Thank you^^

[rocky plover]

What's your preferred pick for lethal runs specifically ironman aspid?

I ran with 1 armour, 1 nutritionist, 2 veterans for the most part

Sometimes 1 armour, 2 nutritionist, 1 veteran

[jolly verge]

Before LSS i used 2 intimidators and 2 pacifiers with taser only as a no damage taken build on most missions

But standart build is 2 negotiators 1 armorer and 1 nutritionist

[rocky plover]

I almost always just went to quick play for S rank runs tbh xD

[rocky plover]

But this is what I used for ironman

[cedar knot]

If Mod.IO says I have no mods, why does it show in my library?

[rocky plover]

With lethal ofc

[jolly verge]

S ranking was easier than full lethal since suspects do not shoot you

Until stress hits threshold

[rocky plover]

True true in that aspect due to less stress

Yea

[jolly verge]

But now shooting from taser count as gunshot

[rocky plover]

But for ironman I didn't wanna risk it with less lethal cos eh you know

So lethal felt safer

[rocky plover]

Yeah this is bs ...

[storm crest]

It depends on what kind of engagements you want, really
Lower risk but slower (non-lethal) or higher risk but faster (lethal)

[jolly verge]

M32A1 feels much more safer atm

[rocky plover]

Yea well I did ironman so many years ago

We only had 6 shots in m32a1 before and couldn't even be reloaded lol

But yeah it's so op now

[jolly verge]

You could with a mod

[rocky plover]

Like playing modless for the most part but ye

[storm crest]

I'm very jealous of pc players
Since I'm on xbox and didn't preorder, I can't even use launchers or some pistols

[rocky plover]

Oh damn

I think you guys will get them as soon as next update will drop though right?

[storm crest]

I hope

If I want it faster, I think I have to pay full-price plus extra

[rocky plover]

That sucks

[storm crest]

When is the next update?

[rocky plover]

2026, that's all we know lol

[storm crest]

Gotcha

Has anything been mentioned about what will be added?

[rocky plover]

Multi attachments railing system

Such as laser + flashlight

[storm crest]

Sounds useful

[rocky plover]

Or sight + magnifier

Or uh sight/scope + 45° sight (canted)

[storm crest]

A canted sight sounds amazing

I usually always aim that way

[willow solstice]

cag

[rocky plover]

Yeah it's op for best vision around you

[willow solstice]

i FUMKIN hate twisted nerve

[thick dome]

why? thats a good map

[storm crest]

It's not that bad if you have the right setup

[willow solstice]

[storm crest]

But the tunnels are really unpredictable

I wish more in-game verbal commands worked for multiplayer

It's a bit tough to play on multiplayer when nobody uses a mic and the best you can communicate is with "yes," "no," "go there," and "deploy (grenade, shield, light) there"

[tidal sleet]

the meth house? It’s simple to do

[willow solstice]

yeah. but the map FUCKING sucks

[rocky plover]

While it's an easy map, i'm not a fan of the layout either

[tidal sleet]

I’ve done it without nvgs

[willow solstice]

yeah but the layout FUCKING sucks

[tidal sleet]

The tunnels suck the houses are fine

[rocky plover]

The attic is funny, either find no one there or literally find around 5

[tidal sleet]

for me at most it’s 2

Time to just use a Glock 19 with a taser and no long gun

with 1.0 ai

[rocky plover]

I miss the layout back when it had raid mode for that map

There's a small building on the right side as you spawn that you could go into before

[tidal sleet]

yeah I know about that building sad they removed it

[rocky plover]

Yeah

[tidal sleet]

should I use a Glock 19 with a Glock 19

[willow solstice]

okay im not s ranking this level

[rocky plover]

Wait what 🤣

[tidal sleet]

I S ranked it maybe during 1.0 don’t remember

[tidal sleet]

got the secondaries as primaries mod

[rocky plover]

Ohhh

[tidal sleet]

I love mods

[willow solstice]

this sucks so bad

[rocky plover]

Then yes, love the g19 amongst the 9mm pistols

[tidal sleet]

I use it a lot for normal LSPD loadouts

[rocky plover]

Same

Prefer it over b92fs and M11 compact

Sometimes I'd use the fn509 or USP though too but fn509 can feel weird at times but I like the fire rate

[tidal sleet]

I occasionally use the 1911s

[willow solstice]

i got tired of trying to non lethal so i dropped two with a five seven

[rocky plover]

Don't use them much cos of 7 rounds in mag, so I go for usp instead if I want .45acp

[willow solstice]

i forgor what pistol im using

[tidal sleet]

I got a S rank on the FBI agent’s house by accident

I’m not kidding and it was the first time I got one for that mission

[willow solstice]

tf is that

[crimson sentinel]

Twisted nerve is easy work man

What mode you going at it with

[tidal sleet]

The mission name is A Lethal Obsession

it’s 2 after the one you’re stuck on

[crimson sentinel]

The ex agent?

[rocky plover]

The one with Gerard Scott as main suspect

Fairly easy mission

[tidal sleet]

yeah

[crimson sentinel]

Yeah that’s just an introduction to traps tbh

[tidal sleet]

I got a S rank with lethal and no mods

[rocky plover]

With just 3 suspects (4 on hard afaik)

Damn nice

[crimson sentinel]

That essentially just serves as a tutorial for peeking and traps

[tidal sleet]

and that was over a year ago

[crimson sentinel]

Actually is the hotel shooters before or after that

[rocky plover]

True idk why they didn't do it before gas station tbh lol

Granted gas station suspects hesitate way more and and are less stressed

[tidal sleet]

anyone else hate the tan weapons?

[rocky plover]

But ehh

Get the black weapons mod then xD

[crimson sentinel]

The difficulty curve between missions is strange at times

[rocky plover]

True

[tidal sleet]

yeah just got the updated version

[crimson sentinel]

Like mindjot is stupid easy too

And shouldn’t be

[rocky plover]

Miss the old hotel map

[tidal sleet]

yeah they are armored yet so easy to do

[rocky plover]

They hesitate quite a bit there too

[crimson sentinel]

Mindjot layout is solid and should have been a lot more difficult than what it was

And then you get postal office

Lmao

[tidal sleet]

I got stuck on the post office due to the shit layout

[rocky plover]

Yeah lol unarmoured suspects with hawk eyes

[crimson sentinel]

Post office is more frustrating than difficult tbh because of how the AI is flawed more than anything

[rocky plover]

Yeah

See you through every nook and cranny

[crimson sentinel]

First time running it I managed a C and still don’t know how because I basically just shot anything that moved

[tidal sleet]

the other ones are at least fair

[crimson sentinel]

One take that’s controversial is the commander mode, I do kinda like it although flawed

[rocky plover]

I prefer quick play or multiplayer even solo over commander mode ngl

[tidal sleet]

yeah keeps me coming back since no two runs are the same

[rocky plover]

Don't wanna deal with officers therapy

[dapper granite]

I wish I could use the traits from commander mode in quickplay

[crimson sentinel]

Los Suenos therapy budget has never been so tapped into before Judge

[rocky plover]

Ye but then again what would be the point of commander mode to begin with xD

[crimson sentinel]

Obviously multi is the best option but commander ain’t bad for a more chill session

[dapper granite]

exactly

[rocky plover]

Gotta deal with the therapy thing and get traits to make it slightly easier at least

[crimson sentinel]

Get your officers to split stacks and they’re op before they even enter to clear

[rocky plover]

Queue commands and boom

[crimson sentinel]

Bang and clear!

[dapper granite]

hard mode Hide and Seek S ranks

[rocky plover]

There's worse

Believe me

[dapper granite]

3 letter triad

[rocky plover]

Yes

[crimson sentinel]

Thank god for cross play though because I run on an Xbox temporarily whilst sourcing new parts for a new build since my last rig broke

Console players on average are so horrifically bad

[rocky plover]

Almost pulled my hair out when I S ranked that on hard

Even ran out of beanbag ammo

[dapper granite]

based beanbag user

[rocky plover]

And had to use just taser for last few suspects lol

[dapper granite]

everyone's been telling me to use the launcher but I feel like the beanbag is more beneficial for hide and seek

[rocky plover]

Well with that amount of suspects I wouldn't have had enough shots with launcher

Even by taking stab vest and the other launcher in the long tactical slot

Still not enough for 28 suspects in 3 letter triad

[dapper granite]

I remember doing the hanged man achievement, ran out of taser ammo and flashbangs for the last suspect and I beat it by cowering in a corner with my shield and yelling at him until he ran out of ammo and surrendered

[rocky plover]

For that one I literally do nothing except telling the AI what to do lol

I just spammed flashbansh for them

And they shot

[dapper granite]

wait the ai can shoot and it doesnt count?

that would've been good to know

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can do anything but using shields

[rocky plover]

Yep as long as you only use taser, bangs and bash

Same for rust belt with revolver that's how I did it

[dapper granite]

I played it with a friend in a duo

[rocky plover]

Damn haha

At least it was a duo and not solo without AI

[dapper granite]

took us hours to finish and the final run was like 40 minutes long lol

[rocky plover]

Haha can relate

[dapper granite]

for some reason, the game still displays that time as my "best time" even though I've finished hide and seek multiple times way faster since then

yeah, still says 41.01 minutes

[rocky plover]

Ye I noticed that sometimes too

Doesn't always update correctly

[dapper granite]

ffs I was doing really well in this run and thought that maybe I got lucky with the ai and could finally S rank hide and seek on hard and then I realized I forgot to switch back to hard difficulty 😭

[rocky plover]

Oh damn tough luck, good luck on the next one

[dapper granite]

okay this bullet penetration is legit ridiculous, how did this guy just shoot me like 5 times through a metal wall with a 9mm pistol 😭

[jolly verge]

He did not or you confusing 9mm with rifle caliber

[dapper granite]

pistol with rifle caliber huh

[tidal sleet]

likely shoved his gun into the wall

[dapper granite]

nope, he was standing with his back to the wall at the other end of the room

I should have a replay of this one too finally so I can check in a second

[pine geyser]

I also feel like suspects just penetrate cover consistently more than I can, regardless of weapon and ammo type.

[jolly verge]

They have the same pen as you, but unlike the player they can stick their guns inside the wall, so they won't even need to pen it to hit you

Tho you can do the same but only for pistols and some smgs

[dapper granite]

I can check the replay in a couple minutes lemme finish this run

[tidal sleet]

most likely thing is the ai stuck his gun into the wall

[dapper granite]

hopefully the replay saved, I restarted the mission right after that instead of finishing it, otherwise I just have a clip from my pov again

[tidal sleet]

Yeah when I try to use the game’s recorder it doesn’t work

I mighta shot a civilian through a wall and suspect

surpizingly he didn’t die

[dapper granite]

aw man only a portion of the replay saved and then everything stops after like a minute and a half.
but even in the clip from pov I can clearly see bulletholes on the wall and particles showing that the bullets indeed punched through the wall

something ain't right

@tidal sleet @jolly verge sry for pinging but I uploaded the clip in #🎬ron-clips-and-media if you wanna see for yourself

[tidal sleet]

I couldn’t care much about getting pinged, I think it could be since it’s sheet metal

[dapper granite]

I feel like a 9mm still shouldn't be able to pen that

but can't say 100% since I literally saw it do just that xD

[tidal sleet]

it can since takes a 1/4in (6.35mm) for a steel plate to stop 9mm

majority of sheet metal is not even 1mm in thickness

[dapper granite]

can we safely say that it actually goes into that much depth since it's just a game?
A game with pretty deep mechanics yes but it could just be internally marked as just "metal" so it functions as any other metal wall there is

[jolly verge]

It's not steel but aluminum iirc, so any ammo with armor pen class 1 will go through it

Or even lead, which is even weaker material in game

[dapper granite]

ah, so now I gotta keep that in mind too

[jolly verge]

Some walls in game can look like made of concrete but they actually made of plaster or just using "default" material stats, so even 9mm will pen it

[tidal sleet]

Yeah I don’t have a clue how they coded it since that’s likely gonna be a bit of code to go through

[tidal sleet]

like most walls

[dapper granite]

yeah, I just fired a mag of 9mm through it to test it and they all went through too

[jolly verge]

It's not really that deep, you just don't know what some wall is using for a material stats, so it's can look like solid concrete or steel

[tidal sleet]

pretty sure you can get a ricochet on sand

[jolly verge]

Like I said, you cant really tell what surface is made of in game unless you spend a lot of times testing each of them and editing material/ammo stats

[stable kernel]

Is this a data table in the files?

[still hull]

For achievements like Sleeper Agent, would it make sense to use Commander mode and bring a bunch of negotiators or some other trait?
I've used Quick Play for almost all of the other single mission achievements including S tier, but Sleeper Agent scares me a bit

[swift canopy]

whats better for a designated marksmen sr16 or saw 58 osw

[crude prism]

it's here

[tawdry shale]

can you get the "sleeper agent" achievement on multiplayer?

[stable kernel]

Penetration data you say? The jokes write themselves.

[crude prism]

[wind gyro]

every achievement that doesnt have commander specific requirements can be done in any mode

[crude prism]

confirmed supervillain volcano hideout level soon

[stable kernel]

Fun fact for you actually

The lava pm has impact effects like concrete, as does the energy barrier one. But oil does not have any decal or particle…

[tawdry shale]

ok thanks

[swift atlas]

What is better the lvar or the arn 180?

[cedar mulch]

I'm pondering, why they didn't equip Mindjot with a bulletproof helmet.

[crude prism]

They playtested for 1 second and went "holy shit having helmets on AI would make them unkillable"

[cedar mulch]

Are the unused coyote models present within the game files, or are they absent?

[crude prism]

No clue

[cedar mulch]

I've seen some coyote models they've created on ArtStation, but they haven't been incorporated into the levels.

[cedar mulch]

Does LVAR.50 truly exist, or has it been concealed?

[crude prism]

Lol that sounds like a meme, I have not seen that

[cedar mulch]

I've heard VOID still retains PVP files within the game. Is this credible information or false?

[crude prism]

Yeah, that's true.

And I think they can technically be started with mods, but I'm not sure how much functionality the mods are updating/filling in to make that possible

[quaint mason]

Oml trying to solo rust belt is infuriating

[torpid onyx]

I think Brandon Herrera would like to know

[magic ingot]

is there any mod that enables the trailers unit (assuming they actually exist)

[tough veldt]

You're better off running it in multiplayer

[steep ridge]

formalistischeren

[stone bay]

is there a way to disable vignette with a gas mask

[gentle void]

Screw this team bro

Idiot AI team keeps killing civilians

[rocky plover]

Default wise they are very close but arn180 with sfmb brake and vertical grip is better

[torpid onyx]

arn180 is super uggo though

the receiver construction is so boxy

[surreal merlin]

is there any command to throw a flash by the launcher into a room with an open door?

[marsh lark]

If the door is open and you get them to stack up and flash it, they will ignore the door (aka wont try to open it since its open) and go on to throw a flash.

[surreal merlin]

ok so you need to stack them up no matter what?

[surreal pelican]

What entry do you guys take for Leviathan?

[surreal pelican]

Bonus points because of the roar of that rifle

[subtle palm]

Can we please add more jeans, plaided shirts, trench coats, intelligence unit vests and more plain clothes officer type of clothing and detective badges from the waist or as a necklace

[surreal pelican]

Id love to see this too, especially for the vest part. I think the closest detective esque vest we have is the low visibility one from home inv dlc

[subtle palm]

Yeah, you guys should also find a way to let console players position their guns differently when rested on them (take your time I’m not trying to rush)

Female operators suggestion and outfits from them (hailey Upton, Lindsay,) more boy operators (jay halstead, ruzek, Hank voight) Hank voight would be cold in ron

[rocky plover]

True haha

[surreal pelican]

He would immediately get numerous ROE violations lol

[subtle palm]

😂

[surreal merlin]

is there a difference (in the game) between all the scan options like does one give better results and call outs than another

[jolly verge]

Slide - fastest
Pie - slow but safest
Peek - quick room check by peeking the door then closing it

Idk if there any difference in swat ai/suspects reaction or something, never really used these commands

[surreal merlin]

okayyy

[tacit gull]

On every one the swat ai will likely ignore the suspect and get riddled with bullets

[cedar mulch]

When are they going to make a level entirely about biker gangs? RON is missing the neo-Nazis.

[eternal crow]

i ended up buying one of the collectors editions

i really hope it doesnt have issues getting here like everything else with this fuckass company

[fallow cypress]

@storm crest use the m32A1 flash

[surreal pelican]

Earlier I asked one of my guys to PIE a door, said clear only for a suspect to be standing there

[storm crest]

I don't have access to it since I didn't preorder

[tacit gull]

Yeah do not tell the swat ai to do anything because they are simply not able to

[fallow cypress]

what? I bought the game like a few months ago and I have it

[storm crest]

Did you get the deluxe edition?

[fallow cypress]

huh

I dont know

[surreal pelican]

I love the team, but sometimes they just make me go full auto on them

[storm crest]

If not, I'm not sure why I don't have it

[surreal merlin]

will i lose my sanity if i try s ranking every mission on hard on singleplayer

[cedar mulch]

To be perfectly honest, VOID's promises about the next DLC are nothing but empty words. I'd even wager they've barely got the folders set up yet.

[rocky plover]

well everyone finds it different for himself, personally most of the maps weren't that hard, but there were a couple that I wanted to pull my hair out to complete

[surreal merlin]

ig most of the missions that are easy will remain easy

but the hard ones will become harder

[rocky plover]

yeah something like that

3 letter triad was the hardest imho on hard to S rank

cos it can have up to 28 suspects

[surreal pelican]

What spawn does the dock spawn lead to? Like nearest room?

I never tried that

[maiden sequoia]

Very late reply. (Spoilers) ||If you look closely you'll see there all amputees. They're retired vets and the current (mayor? President? Politicians?) Is literally burning there benefits to the ground||

[surreal pelican]

I ran 2x Pacifiers, 1x Negotiator and 1x Armourer with all flash M32A1

[rocky plover]

best spawn imo, loading bay is also good, but i prefer docks
uh it spawns you on the right side of the map (right side to where you would spawn if you spawned on beach if that makes sense)

[maiden sequoia]

Which map?

[rocky plover]

could either take ground floor, or there are stairs for the floor above you

[surreal merlin]

won't they resign? or is making it non lethal that good for their mental healt (haven't ran that since a long time ago)

[rocky plover]

the more you arrest the less stressed the swat AI become

[surreal pelican]

Non lethal is good for their state

[surreal pelican]

Docks best spawn?

I tried loading bay but AI refuses to stack against the pool room and breach

[surreal merlin]

how can i unlock their traits quickly though, should i just run some missions on easy then when they have unlocked their traits, jump into it?

[maiden sequoia]

Run mission 1

[jolly verge]

Lethal obsession if you have it unlocked

[maiden sequoia]

Just over and over again

[rocky plover]

well it comes down to personal preference, loading bay seems to be the most popular because it puts you the closest, but personally I prefer Docks

[surreal pelican]

Which area does docks lead too? I never tried it

[maiden sequoia]

I hate that mission

[rocky plover]

this if you can understand what I mean

[surreal pelican]

Yup

[rocky plover]

closest to the 2 big rooms on top of each other

[surreal pelican]

Ohh I misread it sorry

I think I should try docks next run, I faced quite a lot of gunfire in both Loading Bay and Main Entrance double C2 breach

[rocky plover]

main entrance is kinda hit or miss, cos there's so many angles to cover once you step inside

[surreal merlin]

is gas still ahh?

[rocky plover]

loading bay is closest and fastest, but doesnt really give you alot of options to where to go, because the path is pretty linear from that point

thats why I like docks, you can choose where to go -> ground floor or first floor

or even a little bit of both and even clear the hardest rooms first

so even if you die, you waste way less time overall

[surreal pelican]

Nice

[rocky plover]

instead of dying at the end of the mission

[jolly verge]

Yes

[surreal pelican]

Imma try docks next run, thank you

[rocky plover]

👍

[surreal merlin]

nooooooooooooo

is the m32a1 still the go to for judge?

/beanbag shotgun but i find m32a1 more easier

[jolly verge]

M32A1 is just better than any other less-lethal

Both for you and swat ai

[rocky plover]

As Aspid said, but for maps with high suspect count, the M32A1 launcher might struggle with not having enough ammo, but I guess with a full squad of swat AI, it can be doable

[jolly verge]

M32A1 + M320

[rocky plover]

yeah that's what I took most of the time, still not enough on some maps

especially on Hard, since suspects get up for the 2nd or 3rd time much more frequently than on Standard due to stun duration etc.

especially when you can't just use arrest cancel in the heat of the moment cos you're still trying to secure the room

cos it has like 6 suspects in the same spot lol

[surreal merlin]

was that the long tactical one?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[rocky plover]

ye

[surreal merlin]

would you suggest equipping the m320 for all the ai or are there any better options nowadays

[jolly verge]

Just give them M32A1

[rocky plover]

its op, always took that for myself on S runs over mirror gun, i love it

[surreal merlin]

isnt the mirrorgun safer

[rocky plover]

dont trust them with m320 so i gave them mirror gun

[rocky plover]

prefer to have control myself on the m320

[surreal merlin]

and if you need to mirror you have them do it?

[rocky plover]

technically yes, thats why i gave the mirror gun to the AI, I preferred to use the launcher myself

[torpid onyx]

m320 is only usable with breaching or the deploy command and essentially ends up playing the same as flashbangs for ai

[rocky plover]

yes, but keep in mind sometimes they are shit with it, and they only say generic stuff when explaining what they see

[surreal merlin]

i know the layout of the rooms so if they say one armed contact then i guess that's enough?

[rocky plover]

ye thats why i prefer using it myself and give the mirror gun to the AI instead of having the mirror gun myself and they have the m320

[torpid onyx]

"doorway to the left, clear....... and one armed suspect"

[rocky plover]

yea but sometimes they say 1, when in reality it will be 2 or 3 you get me?

so dont rely on it 100%

[torpid onyx]

I hate how when they make the callouts they end up calling clear and then after calling clear they then end up saying there's an armed suspect or trap after like a second delay

[surreal merlin]

i guess when they say "clear.... one armed contact" when they first say clear they mean the doorway (if they have a trap or not)

[rocky plover]

yea, I think there's a sequence to how they phrase it, first its whether there is a trap and then whether there's suspects/civilians

exactly^

[maiden sequoia]

Usually its cuz the "second" or third suspect is standing behind a bedpost and the AI forget they're glasses on a work day

[rocky plover]

yeah smth like that

[surreal merlin]

isnt it also the look of the room like "multiple doorways"

[maiden sequoia]

I love my mirror stick too much

I usually load the AI on flashes and make them flash in small open rooms

[rocky plover]

i mean technically speaking its the most op from all the long tacticals but I love the m320 flash so much

[maiden sequoia]

Or areas

[rocky plover]

perfect for those insane moments where you can just deploy a flash instant, unlike with throwable bangs

saved me quite a lot

basically free 4 arrests

[maiden sequoia]

Then even the AI fucks up and manages to catch the flash on a door frame and flashes me why im getting touched up by the suspects

[surreal merlin]

doesnt it cause friendly fire?

[rocky plover]

stingers yes, flash was fixed afaik

[surreal merlin]

flash doesnt cause friendly fire?

[rocky plover]

was fixed with last patch i think

[dire horizon]

Flash should not cause friendly fire

[rocky plover]

it used to, cos i had a few S runs get ruined by it, but i think it was fixed recently, swear i remember seeing something in the latest patch notes

[maiden sequoia]

How does that even happen

[rocky plover]

with the flash launchers, in open areas basically

[maiden sequoia]

It's a flash

It shouldn't hurt

[dire horizon]

Ya they fixed it

[maiden sequoia]

Well technically besides your eyes and ears

[rocky plover]

yea glad they fixed it

[dire horizon]

Ruined a couple of my s runs as well

[surreal merlin]

i remember that messing me up too

[rocky plover]

even when it didnt feel it wasnt that close, it still was giving me -30 for friendly fire

was too annoying

[maiden sequoia]

What messed up my runs was when I first discovered stingers

Oh yeh, another reason to hate AI

[rocky plover]

i hate stingers so much

for a lot of reasons

[surreal merlin]

i wish gas was better, i find it so cool

[maiden sequoia]

Throws a stinger officer decides he doesn't like the left side of the door and moves

[rocky plover]

yeah gas used to be my only go to before, it was so good, now flash is my only go to

[dire horizon]

Grenade bounce is not consistent enough for me to want use stingers

[rocky plover]

same, they roll and bounce too much

[maiden sequoia]

Stinger bounces back to my feet but it doesn't matter since I run like a crippled 80 year old man that has no pension

[surreal merlin]

how can you even aim better with grenades

[dire horizon]

Or bounce the wrong direction

[surreal merlin]

it feels weird

[rocky plover]

not to mention they are "bigger" so harder to throw in tight spaces such as between door frames and such

[maiden sequoia]

Or bounces off air

[maiden sequoia]

I've given up on the crack throws

[dire horizon]

Intuition, just feel it out

[maiden sequoia]

I keep missing

[dire horizon]

Also practice

[rocky plover]

pretty easy with a little bit of practice, the index finger and thumb helps a bit

and adjust according to the range

[torpid onyx]

draw an invisible line between your index and thumb and then vibe check somewhere along that line

[dire horizon]

Once you get a feel for range, aka starts high ends low

You'll be sweet

[rocky plover]

ye exactly

[torpid onyx]

you'll figure out the exact spot it gets thrown out between your fingers by just watching

[rocky plover]

i still feel like bouncing them on doors or walls is very inconsistent and rng like though even though you use the same method XD

[surreal merlin]

my original guide was the fingers

[dire horizon]

The bounce is a game of luck

[torpid onyx]

trying to get it thru a peeked door is impossible even if you throw it perfectly

[rocky plover]

yeah, very different from like Ground Branch, where it's always the same, depending how you throw it

here it feels like, either it will work, or its coming back at you

especially when you try to bounce it off the edge of the door frame lol

[dire horizon]

I'll get it through a peek and then fuck up on bouncing it around a corner off the door

[maiden sequoia]

I find they bounce easier if the angle is shallower

[rocky plover]

ye sometimes I like to open the door very slightly further than the peek position (by pushing very slowly with my body) so I can throw it easier and safer without fully opening the door

[dire horizon]

Is it me or are wedges more fragile?

[rocky plover]

what do you mean?

[dire horizon]

Like if I wedge a door and shoot a hole in the top it used to stay wedged, now the wedge gets destroyed

[marsh lark]

Weird

Personally never had that happen

[dire horizon]

With breaching shotgun

[marsh lark]

oh, well..

I mean, if you want a door blocked you probably are not going to try and destroy it with a breaching shotgun

[rocky plover]

oh ye this is very annoying

depends though

[maiden sequoia]

Besides that my ai won't remove the wedge (or pick locks) automatically when I ask them to stack up and breach really irritates me

[dire horizon]

Yeah I know that feeling

[rocky plover]

before it used to push the door along with the wedge iirc, not make the door completely open again

[dire horizon]

I wish the default command for a doorway could be set to wedge

[maiden sequoia]

Like if i asked you to breach it means we good. If I asked you to stack up, you can mention that its locked/wedged

[dire horizon]

"Doors locked" no it ain't, it's wedged, the ai man...

It's why I just c2 and breach everything

[rocky plover]

they just stare at it XD

[maiden sequoia]

Even that. They'll place it and hope for the best

[dire horizon]

My favourite is when you get them to stack up and one just runs off to go rambo the suspects and dies

[maiden sequoia]

That or they when everyone goes ahead but 1 stuck cuz i only slightly opened the door

Not fully

Like my bad princess

[dire horizon]

I had an issue on 32mbs where one was trying to stack up in an adjacent room next to the streamers bedroom and closed the door on himself

I wanted them to stack on the bedroom door

Open and clearing with a shield on ai swat is a death sentence for that ai as they run in, hyper focus a door in the next room and run into the room backwards

Alright that's enough griping from me, I love this game

I am excited for the new rail system

The flip magnification looks sick

[rocky plover]

Hahaha had that a bunch of times, I keep spamming fall in fall in fall in, for them to cancel everywhere that they were doing and come to me but there's still 1 swat AI doing his own thing 🤣🤣

Funny and frustrating at the same time

[cedar zodiac]

"Restraining" and runs straight into death

[dire horizon]

"Restraining" halfway across a room during an active firefight

Everytime lol

[fallow cypress]

always give them max heavy armor plus faceshield bruh

[cedar zodiac]

"I got cuffs! 🤠" 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[cedar zodiac]

They're already slow enough 😭

[fallow cypress]

Theyre not smart enough to run away to cover anyways

[jolly verge]

armor type does not affect movement speed and plates acceleration penalty do not affect swat ai

[dire horizon]

The reaction time of a slug on depressants

[cedar zodiac]

oh damn!

so i just ran them with light ceramic all this time for nothing

[jolly verge]

Yeah, never give them light armor

[dire knot]

how easy do your guys die?

[fallow cypress]

if you equip heavy armor you can still use light armor skins in the customization menu

you can still make your bots drippy CAG operators even if they use heavy armor

[cedar zodiac]

Yeah knew that one but the speed thing was a surprise

[dire horizon]

Damm automod

[jolly verge]

Just slap heavy vest with full coverage steel plates for them and for yourself if you have armorer trait

[dire knot]

steel sucks

[cedar zodiac]

I just got finished with doing every mission on hard today, so uh, it's a smidge late unfortunately

[dire horizon]

They're like horses, they wake up and choose between homicide or sewer slide

[rocky plover]

steel is op especially with the recent buff bruh

[fallow cypress]

My bots wear multicam and only get B

[rocky plover]

light armor with steel plates (sometimes front only, sometimes front & back) is my go-to

[fallow cypress]

My bots use M32A1 Flash and clutch on S runs

[jolly verge]

What's better, dying in 11 shots of 5.56 with ceramic vs 31 with steel

[dire horizon]

Or three because they all hit one leg

[dire knot]

so metamaxing?

got it

[rocky plover]

ikr, its always the fucking arms or legs

[fallow cypress]

you have to meta max your bots loadout

[marsh lark]

steel plate is the strongest shit you have in RoN

nothing comes close

[cedar zodiac]

to compensate for the brain damage

[dire knot]

almost as if there's a reason for that

[rocky plover]

not exactly cos I said light armor, when almost everyone uses heavy instead, but I dont like heavy armor

[dire knot]

so you're almost metamaxing. got it

[jolly verge]

Still good because you want to get bleed

[rocky plover]

well it makes sense I know, but feels like sometimes it's on purpose more lol

[rocky plover]

well I use front only coverage most of the time, so still not exactly 😛

[hybrid belfry]

Can i get "The hermit" achivment if downed officers are revived by paramedic

[tall gate]

Beach mission when?

[hybrid belfry]

Ends of the Earth

[fallow cypress]

Heavy Armor full coverage with steel + Helmets with ballistic face mask + M23A1 Flash + 11 Launcher Flashbang ammo +M320 Flash

[tall gate]

Is that the one with the kids selling guns?

[hybrid belfry]

yeah

[tall gate]

Ah yeah I got ya thanks

[hybrid belfry]

it is technically a beach mission because u spawn on the beach

[fallow cypress]

Hes using tarkov leg meta

this shit is unfair

[tall gate]

I spawned on the road

[rocky plover]

no, plus there's far better traits than that anyways, prevention is better than cure!

[hybrid belfry]

dont u ever fucking say that again

i dont want to hear that shit

god not the leg meta

[rocky plover]

no I prefer spawning on the street, faster XD

[hybrid belfry]

i prefer not playing this mission at all

[rocky plover]

plus you can also spawn on the beach in 3 letter triad XD

[hybrid belfry]

that one with 1 civ and 20+ suspects?

[rocky plover]

ye it gets quite repetitive cos its a very small and fast mission

[rocky plover]

yes

[hybrid belfry]

fucking CoD mission with relaxed ROE mod

[dire horizon]

I actually had a mission where I died to only armour shots and didn't bleed

[rocky plover]

ye bleed is rng

[hybrid belfry]

i died to a civilian

we're not the same

[dire knot]

why you need a ROE mod??

[rocky plover]

so you could get unlucky and die faster with steel sometimes, but its rng so not always

[hybrid belfry]

i got S rank on every mission already

[dire horizon]

I too have the achievement

[hybrid belfry]

I just want to shoot people sometimes

[dire horizon]

We are the same

[hybrid belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077030283792097420/1410132927748243557/attachment.gif

[dire knot]

ok? still using the mod?

[rocky plover]

casual is kinda for that but then again who even plays casual xD

[hybrid belfry]

i use it because I already got all the S

[hybrid belfry]

I used before buying

[dire knot]

lazy

[fallow cypress]

A suspect once sprayed an ak towards me, missed every shot, switched to his makarov pistol, and sniped me across the map. I have video and replay proof

[rocky plover]

[hybrid belfry]

i hate 3 letter triad

[dire knot]

let me guess. trying to get the sleeper agent?

[hybrid belfry]

trying to get S rank✌️

[dire knot]

wild

[hybrid belfry]

I aint doing shit with beanbag on that

[dire knot]

I didn't need mods for S rank or Sleeper agent LMAO

[fallow cypress]

look at this loser who still uses beanbags

[onyx swift]

You can use the Launchers for it too

[hybrid belfry]

doesnt matter really

[dire knot]

goat of that map

[onyx swift]

Hey, put some respect on Beanbags

[fallow cypress]

IT SUCKS

[rocky plover]

wdym it sucks, it's op

[fallow cypress]

ITS WORSE AND YET PEOPLE STILL USE IT

[onyx swift]

In your hands

[dire knot]

get good aim. It doesn't suck. you just don't know how to use it

[hybrid belfry]

S rank on 3 letter triad is worse than S rank valley of the Dolls

[hybrid belfry]

someone shoot a suspect in head once I see

[rocky plover]

ye launcher is op, but on maps with suspect count close to 30, launcher ammo wont be enough

so beanbag shines there

[dire knot]

both of those are easy as hell man 💀

[jolly verge]

That why you have 2 negotiators

[hybrid belfry]

3 letter triad is ONLY mission with more than 15 suspects i guess

[fallow cypress]

When theres 5 people in a lobby the chances that all 4 of my teammates not shoot in the head is pretty fucking low

[cedar zodiac]

Postal service or Port hokan are the bad ones

[rocky plover]

i prefer quick play

[dire knot]

????? I did it with AI bruh

[rocky plover]

or multiplayer so i can play without AI

[hybrid belfry]

u want to play solo just host friends only game

[onyx swift]

I’ll admit that shortly after LSS, the Beanbag Shotgun felt as if it no-reg’d compared to before the patch

But by now, it’s probably fine

[rocky plover]

it makes shit easier

[rocky plover]

ye or that

[onyx swift]

3 Letter Triad is worse than Hide and Seek imo

Launchers make it way easier to do, at least (well that goes for any S Rank)

[cedar zodiac]

Hide and seek is annoying, too much walking around and looooongshots, but straight difficulty? You're probably right

[dire knot]

prob is the worst in general

[fallow cypress]

Hide and Seek is easier than Greased Palms in my opinion because theres no bs see through props

[rocky plover]

no? port, hospital, leviathan, car dealership, greased palms

[jolly verge]

There's 10 missions with 15 or more suspects

On standart

[hybrid belfry]

anyone knows how to play ironman mode in co-op

I saw videos with co-op ironman

[jolly verge]

You don't

[onyx swift]

That’s gotta be a mod, right?

[jolly verge]

That gotta be manually restarting the first mission if you've die in coop

[rocky plover]

just start from gas station again and follow the list until someone dies again lol and repeat

why you'd need a mod for that, just roleplay XD

[hybrid belfry]

whoever dies in game have to kill themselves in life

[jolly verge]

Let me download a mod so I can alt+f4 in coop

[rocky plover]

ready or not x squid game when

[hybrid belfry]

never

[fallow cypress]

bots can atleast stack up and breach can your buddy do that

[hybrid belfry]

guys whats your favorite tatoo?

[rocky plover]

agree XD

[fallow cypress]

leg meta

[hybrid belfry]

mines are one they give you for S rank Twisted Nerve

[rocky plover]

forgot its name, but there's a couple where the tattoo almost covers your whole arm up till the elbow

also the ones where it's on both arms

[hybrid belfry]

They're looking ass in most cases

[rocky plover]

they are quite nice

[maiden sequoia]

23MBs tattoo for S rank

[fallow cypress]

one might be ai generated

[cedar zodiac]

Rather not say..

[maiden sequoia]

Or valley of the dolls one

[dire knot]

then be quiet

[fallow cypress]

but we can appreciate the bragging rights these tattoos and wristwear gives

[rocky plover]

the hatching or whatever its called, or am i mistaking it for another one?

[fallow cypress]

like the compass watch where you need to S Port Hokan

[hybrid belfry]

thats not compass

icl Ruined Devs Watch looking ass

[maiden sequoia]

I know

But I still gotta flex it

[hybrid belfry]

i cant even do it

it drops my fps every time i equip them

[fallow cypress]

mandatory bragging rights

[maiden sequoia]

Watch so iced out its gotta nerf you

[hybrid belfry]

thats why I use silver ones

they're perfect

[dire knot]

real

[maiden sequoia]

You know im rocking the beach shirt with jeans, ice on the wrist and the weeb tattoo

[cedar zodiac]

Always gotta show that GOLD

[dire knot]

I got the Elephant tattoo

[hybrid belfry]

Its hard to see in multiplayer

[fallow cypress]

always show em your gold plated watch, floral shirt, and FISA plate carrier

[hybrid belfry]

who dont

[maiden sequoia]

OK bed time, 3am and my holiday leave ends today so work in -4h

[torpid onyx]

you need to chuck on the friendship bracelet it's meta

[cedar zodiac]

Looks awesome in screenshots tho

[hybrid belfry]

replace gold with silver and you'll get my loadaut

[maiden sequoia]

I did before the ruined watch

[hybrid belfry]

Elephant S rank one?

[maiden sequoia]

And I had the spandex pants but I looked stupid as fuck

[torpid onyx]

yeah

my kit has the friendship bracelet and weeb tattoo

[hybrid belfry]

who tf doing ruined devs before any other watch

[dire knot]

you running the elephant tattoo too? or na. because that's what I run with the dev watch

[maiden sequoia]

Trophy hunters

[hybrid belfry]

I used it until found better ones imo

[dire knot]

I like the elephant one the best as of rn tbh

[hybrid belfry]

use "the thing" with no gloves

[fallow cypress]

Im rocking that Garmin square thingymagic, multicam combat shirt, tan belt, tan boots, tan plate carrier, and Kosoku Caiman Helmet

[maiden sequoia]

There is someone out there on PS that's done S rank hard mode first try for the achievements

[hybrid belfry]

you'll like it

[fallow cypress]

The best loadout is the coolest looking one

[maiden sequoia]

Supernova

[hybrid belfry]

i cant even send my loadaut

[maiden sequoia]

Can't exist if it wasn't there

[fallow cypress]

thats why people use the GA 416 eventhough it has the highest recoil out of all the ARs

[dire knot]

wghat

Which one does this come from? I see none named that

[fallow cypress]

some sort of euphemism

[maiden sequoia]

You talking about the fingerless gloves?

[cedar zodiac]

Is there a stat spreadsheet around?

[maiden sequoia]

There is

From a couple days ago

[maiden sequoia]

Press on the chat tab and check media

[jolly verge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[cedar zodiac]

Thank you

[languid juniper]

Are gas grenades still utterly useless

[fallow cypress]

Real ones use the SR-16, respect the goat that is knights armaments

[fallow cypress]

yes

[rocky plover]

ye

[hybrid belfry]

Twisted Nerve

[rocky plover]

1 of my favs one, ngl

[fallow cypress]

Whats Kanye have to do with this?

[rocky plover]

wut XD

[hybrid belfry]

I use anything that hurts my ears so I dont shoot