👮ron-discussion

[rugged isle]

On the topic of noise, what's the category for the swat voicelines? I always struggle to listen to them and then a gunshot is too loud..

[gusty vale]

News flash for you. Internets portrayal of america is not what its like here at all lmao

It would be more efficient to see it for yourself

[void jasper]

I noticed they’re real similar to the players own yells like for compliance and all that

[gusty vale]

The word you were looking for is lazy. Not putting forth the proper effort allows you to be lazy with your work and research

[rugged isle]

Ye but even when i'm in the stack i can barely hear them sometimes..died 2 times on ides of march because i didn't heard them spotting a trap and went in☠️

I fixed with subtitles but kinda weird as i have a mod that expands their voicelines so most of the times it's not what they actually say.

[void jasper]

Ides of march is a fun level

[rugged isle]

I hated it..but now i need to do the first run of greased palm one day..so it might pick the spot

Ides was cool for the level design, the traps...no

[void jasper]

Good level for door wedges

[rugged isle]

I wedged everything on the corridors😅

[void jasper]

On my headset the game has great 3d audio I can hear ppl shuffling around

[rugged isle]

Let's say the 25 extra slots were a lot of wedges

[gusty vale]

I just play like real life and i have zero issues i get an A or A+ every mission 😄

[void jasper]

I can hear ppl breathing on level like dorms or twisted nerve

[gusty vale]

I dont really check for traps either ill just peek doors then go around if i feel like somethings not right

Games really easy

[void jasper]

I’m a big fan of the mirrorgun

[nova hollow]

Idles of march is not good to me and then greased palms is easy

[rugged isle]

Useful but unless it's trap level i try to avoid It.. i feel it's more realistic for how far it's possible with the ai to rely on peek, pie ecc

[void jasper]

I usually turn up the sfx and lower the music AND the master volume but then turn it up on the headphones so if I then raise the master volume back up ingame I can hear all the little audio cues

[marsh lark]

Or you can turn on subtitles and when you see subtitles then it means someone is close to you

[tacit gull]

subtitles ugly

[void jasper]

lol

[marsh lark]

Perhaps, but I know some US SWAT teams use suppressors

[warm thicket]

Not until a tweaker in twisted nerve is wielding a 7 inch knife around the corner

[void jasper]

Here we go again

[tacit gull]

he doesn't get any subtitles for the flashbang about to enter his mouth

[void jasper]

No ya don’t

[marsh lark]

I never checked if you get subtitles for that

[tacit gull]

Unknown: "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[rugged isle]

less ui= better...beside actions hints because i can't figure out where to look sometimes.

Took me 10 seconds to kick a door because the kick part wasn't showing up the second time...i was not centered enough

[tacit gull]

i mean

[gusty vale]

The vast majority do not due to funding issues.

[tacit gull]

yeah the paperdoll actually doesn't tell you shit

[gusty vale]

Hence another point proven that if its on google it must be true

[marsh lark]

Right, which is why I said some.

[void jasper]

Yeh I also lower the ui scaling to like 33%

[gusty vale]

Hardly

[void jasper]

Give it rest medo
You don’t live here and you wouldn’t like any of us telling you how it is where you live

[rugged isle]

Wonder what's the budget of lspd for sending always 5 people in massive buildings.. because the armory must be not that cheap with nvg and all the stuffs multiplied by 5 officers

[gusty vale]

Fr

[marsh lark]

Yeah, but it still happens. We obviously do not and there is not much point anyways. You have to use subsonic ammunition for it.

[void jasper]

Stfu

[tacit gull]

No you don't..?

[gusty vale]

No the fuck you dont

[marsh lark]

I might be mistaking it with something then

[gusty vale]

Proving you dont know fucking shit

[void jasper]

lol

Jr moderator or not

[rugged isle]

Petition to change game into "Suppressor or Not"

[gusty vale]

Suppressors are hardly used amongst units same with night vision and full auto

[tacit gull]

The thing with suppressors is they're long, hot and don't really make your gun quiet enough to not be heard by someone a room away

[gusty vale]

It all depends on budget and mission

[gusty vale]

Ya. They only bring your gun down by like 20-30db

Still loud as shit at 120db and above

I got a warning for calling out the jr mod

Guys be careful he will punish you for calling him out for acting like a know it all

[ruby sentinel]

suppressors in tactical use are mainly meant for reducing muzzle flash when utiliziing NVGs

[gusty vale]

He knows everything he has the power

[void jasper]

Me too

[ruby sentinel]

not to make your gun quiet, unless you're also running subsonic ammo

[void jasper]

Bullshit

[gusty vale]

Dudes a power tripper

[tacit gull]

At long distances it can make sound acquisition hell, subsonic ammo or not

All subsonic does is make the people you're shooting at take a little longer to figure out that's what's happening

[marsh lark]

And you will not be discussing it. If you have a problem, you can message @hollow falcon

[tacit gull]

lmao WHAT

[gusty vale]

Now hes censoring me

[marsh lark]

I told you to move on

[gusty vale]

Hahahahahaha

[ruby sentinel]

this is true, but mainly suppressors alone are still loud, they only remove the muzzle blast, not the supersonic crack of the bullet. modern suppressor use is meant for flash reduction (critical with nvgs), concussion management for indoor CQB, better communication during fights, and like you said making it harder to pinpoint shooter's direction. a suppressed 5.56 rifle is still 130+ decibels but compared to unsuppressed 160-170 its massively better for team survival

[marsh lark]

So, move on.

Last warning, move on.

[rugged isle]

Yk it's a whole small drama for nothing at all in the end but a discussion on suppressors right?

Yey, anyways what's your fav breaching style in game?

[tacit gull]

f

[marsh lark]

It was a onesided drama really, but yeah. I was trying to say that there are bodycam footages of SWAT units using suppressors

[rugged isle]

Weren't we moving on-

[marsh lark]

Oh yeah we can move on. What I said was about the warning.

[nova hollow]

This escalated quickly

[marsh lark]

Happens

[nova hollow]

[marsh lark]

Deliberate

Kinda dont want to run head first into a room and get tapped

[tacit gull]

That's alright, you peek the door and the suspect 2 taps you in the head anyways

[marsh lark]

sometimes

[high patio]

Hi, i have a question, will you bring back running and prone ability to the game?

[marsh lark]

Prone was never here actually.

[tacit gull]

Proning was never in the game and sprinting is not happening

[marsh lark]

And running neither, you increase your movement by putting your weapon into low/high-ready

[high patio]

Will you add in the future?

[marsh lark]

I have no idea if the developers will add that in the future.

[high patio]

Thank you so much for your reply!

[marsh lark]

Though you can suggest it in #1050529506022137876 or #📩feedback-reports-channel if you want.

[high patio]

🙏🙏 thank you 😃

[rugged isle]

I saw that you can actually "prone" in the vr mod..or at least i saw a video of someone that managed to shoot from a vent that you shouldn't be able to even reach without vr movements

[lament thunder]

who is officer kelly and why is he getting so many staff trainings 😭

[marsh lark]

Officer Kelly is the main character of LSPD

[jovial lake]

why can i sometimes not order my team to scan a door

[slender jungle]

s tiered neon tomb w w w

[serene mauve]

how'd you do it

that map haunts my nightmares to this day

[craggy fable]

big W

[slender jungle]

@homelessshark9637 on youtube his guide helped a ton

[craggy fable]

play it slow, bring flashlights (or nvg), use your utilities. if playing with bots, use them. bring gas to control a crowd

use the beanbag shotgun and have your ai teammates use pepperball rifles as they can sometimes kill or incap with the beanbag shotgun

[slender jungle]

also mirror under doors and wedge the doors to the dance floor

[craggy fable]

^^

i should use door wedges more often tbh

[slender jungle]

they’re such a game changer

some missions are impossible without them like idk how’d you do Sins of the the father without them

greased palms also 😵‍💫

did they get rid of multiplayer on console?

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can't headshot kill with beanbag

[slender jungle]

can’t they tho? i swore they could

[craggy fable]

they can

its ruined my permadeath runs so many times

[slender jungle]

i was gonna say i’ve had so many runs ruined that way

[jolly verge]

2 years ago

[jolly verge]

False

[craggy fable]

same here

[slender jungle]

??

ok

[craggy fable]

ive done them all without door wedges. its really just the paths you take and how you control them, thats what ive been doing. but i will try out the wedges more often

[upper cedar]

Best gun ?

[craggy fable]

f90 assault rifle

in my opinion

[marsh lark]

SR16

[jolly verge]

Depends

[slow canyon]

pepper ball launcher

[slender jungle]

s tiered buy cheap

[thick dome]

i love the GA51 for fun..but ARN180 is my all time goto

i wish they'd build in mission and AI specs that you can set like ground branch does

[covert aurora]

Personal opinion mcx/mk18

[slender jungle]

wow carriers of the vine is just so stupid

[thick dome]

carriers is a tougher one cause elaine doesnt wanna surrender heh

[slender jungle]

finally beat it jesus

[vale needle]

why is flow cqb impossible in this game

why does throwing grenades take so long man

and why do i always get nailed by suspects while they are running in a split frame through a doorway

[deep sentinel]

Flow cqb is easy bro

I've never had any problems

[vale needle]

nah man the suspects will insta dome you the moment you try breaching a door it sucks

[deep sentinel]

If you're playing on hard yeah

[vale needle]

i threw a flash grenade through, heard him yell out in pain, and then i get domed as soon as i walk through

the intimidation system is kinda broken i think

[deep sentinel]

It's more an ai problem not a cqb problem

Its not the intimidation system just that all the ai are fucked rn

[vale needle]

ye ik i meant why is it impossible in this game and i found the answer ig, the ai

[deep sentinel]

Yeah that'll be your answer

They need to do a whole rework on the ai

Would be good if they all played less aggressive and took cover more

Instead of sprinting through doorways constantly and taking out somebody before dying

[vale needle]

ye they are actually straight up suicidal its crazy

[deep sentinel]

literally bro 😭

[vale needle]

also the hitreg is stupid too i have my sights right on a guy and he will not die

[vast fjord]

Just asking is there an offical place to buy ready or not steam keys?

[deep sentinel]

Nope

[vast fjord]

Oh so you can only buy via steam?

[warm token]

Bought this game day one of console release. Came back after a break to see if they’ve fixed any bugs, did any changes, released any updates. Has the game improved?

Damn this server is dead… Used to be popping. I’ve praying on the downfall of this game for a long time. VOID does not deserve what it has. Terrible company. Glad to see everything is still shit ! 😙

[covert aurora]

You can always check the #announcements

[thick dome]

i rather enjoy the game

[covert aurora]

that's good to hear! 🙂

[thick dome]

sure its got quirks..but overall, enjoy it alot

[covert aurora]

for sure

[sweet lantern]

anyone got any tips to not take it up the butt on stolen valor? i genuinely dont know how to pass this without an officer dying or without me dying

[inland swift]

?

[sweet lantern]

it may be a skill issue but on the mission stolen valor, I can't keep any of my ai officers from dying or keep myself from dying. just wondering if anyone had any tips to improve my chance of survival

[inland swift]

Lots of flashes?

[sweet lantern]

that's the thing, i get rushed on every doorway no matter what... every stack gets shredded by guys magdumping doors and my officers cant seem to respond at all anymore

it might be a skill issue but im just asking

[covert aurora]

don't go through the front door, go down the left side and then work your way from the bottom up

that's my usual path

[quasi coral]

Because your utilities are usually patched tightly, the officers throw it quickly and so as you if you ask me

The pauses are weird but it really doesn't matter unless you're trying to assault them with the grenade headfront

[quasi coral]

I have no idea man I start from the front door and clear the last floor to the top

Usually works

[feral blaze]

Will the ready or not arg ever comeback?

[rigid rune]

No idea

[long breach]

can someone help me rq

i cleared hospital both bombs but i need like suspect and civs

is there like an area i missed ?

[wheat basin]

I recommend watching a youtube walkthrough

[marsh lark]

You missed something somewhere

The civilians or suspects do not just disappear from the map

[long breach]

i js got it

ty tho

[torpid onyx]

unless it's a map with hiding spots, then sometimes they do because that bug seemingly hasn't been patched despite existing for idk how long

[marsh lark]

Well, never happened to me or anyone I know.

And I play maps that have hiding spots like 80% of the time

[sudden sky]

Hey, I know this isn't the right channel, I already put this on the bug channel but i wanted to say it here since you are here already

About this bug: When you aim with a pistol with a shield, atleast for me, many times it starts bugging and going back and forth, like if I was spamming the aiming button, which I am not. It gets very difficult to shoot enemies since the gun is bouncing up and down.

[torpid onyx]

Ive seen the disappearing bug happen like maybe twice on video, since they just disappear when they enter the closet and I've seen the issue where a suspect is just stuck in the closet and is frozen but you can see them a few times

[marsh lark]

Unfortunately I cannot forward it anywhere. If you made a bug report then it will be looked at and depending on the priority list, it will be fixed in the next update or patches that will follow.

[torpid onyx]

and on a couple of occasions I genuinely have searched maps and every hiding spot for like 30 minutes and can't find a mf despite knowing the layout by heart

[torpid onyx]

yeah that's a frequent bug

you just have to like buffer yourself and stop aiming for a sec or two then re aim or put the shield away and pull it out

I noticed it happens the most when you try aim while still pulling the shield out

[sudden sky]

Ohh okay

[sudden sky]

Its okay, just wanted to know if its just me or not and to make people aware

[torpid onyx]

it's annoying how frewuent it is though it's like atleast 1/3 of the time

[marsh lark]

I do not use shields that often, so I would not know myself

[sudden sky]

Ahh

[torpid onyx]

I am the shield guy (in multiplayer)

[sudden sky]

Well its a very good piece of equipment, specially if you like clearing places safely

Same lol

[marsh lark]

I rely on scouting the room or doorway. I can deduct when the suspect will be agressive and when he will be hesitant, so I either shout or shoot on sight

[sudden sky]

Damn you are really proficient

Im not on that level since I like absorbing hits and clearing rooms, so that others can shoot safely in the back, though the shield is not always 100% bullet free so sometimes you get hit even though you crouch lol

[marsh lark]

Yeah the shield is not that big

Sometimes your limbs stick out

[vocal brook]

How can you tell?

[marsh lark]

Well, if you kick doors too much, throw grenades and shoot they become agitated. When that happens they usually never surrender or contemplate you shouting and immediately open fire.

[chilly thorn]

Take grenade out of grenade .... holder....? and then throw. takes like 2 seconds in game would take longer irl

[mighty hemlock]

What traits should my AI have to S rank greased palms more effectively?

[ivory kiln]

Since VOID isn't afraid to hint at real life issues even in modern day (I.E. the assassination attempt trailer for dlc 2 and its timing) i would say it'd be killer to have a riot style level or two for dlc 3

Lots of civs in a grouped up fashion, mostly outdoor level, good chance to bring in the m24 sniper rifle thats in the files

[stoic thistle]

The suspects could insult the player as much as possible. You could also sprinkle peaceful people around the level.

[ivory kiln]

Yea, take the gameplay from the hospital level and have the suspects be dressed in the same clothing type as civs

To be realistic at most have 1-5 possible suspects and maybe bomb threats

[shell bridge]

where to even find it? what form is it in? a video? a website?

[ivory kiln]

If it were the theme of an entire 3 mission dlc

Level 1: a street riot
Level 2: looter situation (honestly wished home invasion had something like that considering the hurricane)
Level 3: Free space

And since I mentioned the M24 give the levels some above street level angles to use the sniper effectively

Probably would be better as a mini update 2 mission set like Los Suenos stories was

[marsh lark]

We have no idea what the theme of the next DLC will be

[tough veldt]

Negotiators and pacifiers
Give all your guys gas mask and the pepper ball guns

Give yourself a gas mask and the beanbag shotgun

[ivory kiln]

Oh yea not trying to state as fact, just spitballing a cool idea I had

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators 2 pacifiers and M32A1 with flash ammo for everyone

[shell bridge]

they need to add a field cop mode as a bonus thing, because no gpvngs fitted 308 scar wielding 5 man squad roll up to 7-Eleven

[ivory kiln]

I mean technically there is, there's an achievement called beat cop for doing a mission using only a sidearm

You cant remove your primary but you can tell your Ai to have their pistols out or even go solo as a first responder

[marsh lark]

Generally though, the keypoint of this game is SWAT.

[shell bridge]

What I mean is, make a semi-fledged mode, instead of a challenge or an achievement. Make it feel more than just a player-oriented thing, something that is narrative focused too.

[ivory kiln]

I will say the RoN's story telling is both bronze and golden at the same time

A subtlety that forces you to connect the dots

[shell bridge]

Show the perspective of a field cop, in this underfunded LSPD, introduce a level of restriction to gear due to narrative, that already exists. And it won't even take anything away from the regular SWAT mode.

Instead of going after comically (tho they exist) villains, they really need to add some morally ambiguous (as much as it can be) levels like Ends of the Earth.

[ivory kiln]

I mean, I'd say there's more than just ends of the earth

[shell bridge]

such as?

[ivory kiln]

Elephant, ides, dorms are three that aren't comical super villains

If you go head on into gameplay it'll seem that way

Elephant is some college kids that got messed up in the head

Ides is a bunch of ex vets that came home to get f'ed over by a bill being signed and tried to counter it by doing the only thing they knew how to

And dorms is just straight up squaters

[shell bridge]

Ok, you are right, they aren't comical levels of antagonists, but what I mean is, nothing comes close to making you stutter from pulling the trigger than Ends of the Earth mission.

In other missions, you empathize with the antagonists after pulling the trigger, in Ends of the Earth, you empathize before.

[ivory kiln]

cough except for he who shan't be named in valley of dolls cough

[shell bridge]

Because they aren't directly causing harm, but they are doing it indirectly so they have to be stopped by law, but you don't want to pull the trigger to kill them too, as you understand their situation.

[shell bridge]

As well as the FISA guy cough cough

[ivory kiln]

Honestly though, the real thing i really wanna see expanded more on

Is the ending of hide and seek

When FISA hijacked the frequency to cover up the girls

It was so much of a damn turning point yet it just stops there

[shell bridge]

I think they meant it being the start of something even bigger.

[mighty hemlock]

Thank you

[mighty hemlock]

Thank you

[marsh lark]

Personal investment always leads to someone getting hurt. Realistically; you have a job, your job is to protect your city/country and your people and colleagues. You know that they are illegally selling weapons with automatic fire that can kill lots of people in a crowded area. You are there to stop them, if they open fire, you take them down. If they surrender then good for everybody.

[ivory kiln]

Id say that can be said for damn near every level depending on how well immersed you get

I tried out the VR port recently and GOD is it stupid stressful

In a good way

Vanilla RoN has always made me feel like one slip up can lead to me, my teammates, or innocent civilians getting offed

[marsh lark]

Yeah, the game wants you to pick up on the details and think. I am just saying that realistically you have a job, and you are going to do that job, everything else is secondary.

[ivory kiln]

But in VR it pretty much triples that feeling

[shell bridge]

I think the mentality can be summed to before-after and during. Before and After the mission, you can reflect on the whole thing, wondering how things got messed up, and that some antagonists were just hurt people hurting other people. But during the mission, you and your squad are there for only one thing, save civvies and neutralize the threat by any means.

[marsh lark]

I often do this myself that I look on various details mid mission.

[ivory kiln]

Prime example being valley

You go in knowing that Voll is screwed up, but you don't realize just how INSANELY screwed up he is until you start looking at the basement in detail

[shell bridge]

Neon too, to the same degree.

[marsh lark]

You can get a general idea beforehand though, you know he is connected to kidnapping children for auditions. It is vague but it gives you a general idea that he does fucked up shit

[ivory kiln]

I will say though calling back to thank you come again

I do feel (obviously not fact) that some of the levels like Thank you come again, and Sins of the Father, are in a small way either inspired or tributes to the original SWAT 4

[vocal brook]

The moral dilemmas in ron is what makes it special i think

[ivory kiln]

Swat 4's intro level being a small convenience store, and the way Sin's atmosphere is set up and the roof infil just rip at that nostalgia from the hospital level in S4 (I think it was a hospital level, its been some time since I booted up GOG for swat 4 lol)

[marsh lark]

Moral dillemas are few and far in between imo.

[vocal brook]

Sins of the father is like a maze to navigate i hate it

[ivory kiln]

Sins to me wasnt so bad, it felt like 2 story parallel hallways connected by big rooms on both sides

[marsh lark]

You generally have no morals against terrorists in neon club/hospital, cultists in Carries of the Vine or on the Oil Rig. And especially not people who produce CSAM.

[ivory kiln]

The only level I hate navigating is the post office 😭

[shell bridge]

And I think there should be way more, and a bonus field cop mode will be perfect for this.

We got the grandiose oil rig missions, now I think its time to sprinkle little day-to-day response scenarios.

[marsh lark]

Who knows if that will ever be a thing, but I have my reservations. It is a SWAT game and every update or patch is strictly focused on that.

[ivory kiln]

I do feel what your saying, but I'd say it'd fit more twords a sorta randomly generated encounter type game, kinda like how Ready or Not was before the 1.0 release, but flesh out the potential encounters

Maybe an idea for a potential spin off game by VOID, but we must let them cook the dinner they've started

[shell bridge]

I think VOID can just make an actual "First Responders" type gamemode in RoN.

Or maybe in a game, but that's a whole other level of undertaking.

[tacit gull]

I don't think that would add anything or make for a particularly interesting game

[marsh lark]

Some people already suggested some patrol-ish mode, but Void has no structure for that to my knowledge. You just have maps and a cutscene/animation of travel.

[ivory kiln]

I do like the concept, after all police sims aren't exactly a lush genre

[marsh lark]

And genuinely. You have sooo many police simulator games

Like too many

[ivory kiln]

Really?

[tacit gull]

That's because most of them are boring, underdeveloped or just straight up unfinished

[ivory kiln]

See thats my impression

[shell bridge]

I mean GTA 5's rp servers have first responders as a whole genre, but there is no narrative there.

[ivory kiln]

Swat, Ready or Not, and HELLA REACHING but L.A. Noire have been the only official Police games that have scratched that itch

[marsh lark]

Yeah they are, but if Void wants to get better than those games it would require too much effort and time, and given the size of the dev team it is kinda not forseeable

[shell bridge]

Most police sims have little to no narrative depth, except LA Noire but you are more of a detective there.

[tacit gull]

Atleast in fivem you'd have dynamic situations happening between real people

[ivory kiln]

At least for me

[tacit gull]

There's only so many traffic stops you can do in a police sim before your head smashes into your table

[marsh lark]

Police sim in FiveM is done thanks to scripts and models. That is literally the end

Those are the only custom things to make it work

[ivory kiln]

Oh I forgot

[marsh lark]

And of course custom buildings if you want to consider that too

[ivory kiln]

The granddaddy of all things to do with shooting guns at people in games

Arma, arma also has some samn good police type modpacks

[tacit gull]

[marsh lark]

GTA 5 has everything FiveM needed with just a few scripts, cars, proper ELS needing to be added

[tacit gull]

since when is arma the granddaddy of shooting guns

[ivory kiln]

Im pretty sure one of their official dlc's included a cops v robbers mode

Since its been around and will continue to be alive and thriving since before you or I were born 🤣

[marsh lark]

However the whole system of some police/civilian RP is not really great.

in arma

GTA 5 was built way better for the police/civilian RP structure

In any case police sim out of Ready or Not is probably unlikely, but the main problem is the size of Void

[shell bridge]

a bit off-topic, but GTA 4 LCPDFR feels solid. Because the whole movement/cover system along with the ragdolls gives it a sort of "depth".

[marsh lark]

You have 50 ish devs working on this game

[tacit gull]

Arma isn't even the father of shooting games, its more like the middle brother, maybe lower if you dont consider the first ofp

[ivory kiln]

What would you consider the father of shooters then?

[quasi coral]

Makes me feel even worse with all the pressure on their asses

[ivory kiln]

I genuinely do be forgetting how small VOID actually is

[quasi coral]

Operation Flashpoint

[tacit gull]

The oldest one with actual reach? Would probably be quake since its code is still being used for 3D GLs today if not for entire game engines

However if you want an even older game with open world shooting there was a game called Hunter which came out at the start of the 80s i think

nevermind the 90s

[marsh lark]

Look, we all had DOOM in powerpoint in school

I mean

excel

[tacit gull]

doom was even used for military training (terribly i might add)

[marsh lark]

Shit I remember the US military game on steam

what was it

[tacit gull]

america's army

[marsh lark]

yeah

[tacit gull]

i think

[marsh lark]

it got closed

[tacit gull]

where performing well would get you a call from recruiters which is WILD

[marsh lark]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-spiderman-simmons-jonah-jameson-gif-18832432

[ivory kiln]

Lmao I had the America's army game on disc for the OG Xbox

Didn't they make more than 1?

[valid wave]

OG America’s Army was legit a fantastic game.

One of the most balanced and repayable games ever.

Then they lost the formula/it splintered into a thousand shards of its former self.

Also having to go through actual military classroom lessons (with a quiz) learning to identify types of enemy tanks in order to unlock anti-tank weapons was unironically awesome.

…as was having to go through over a real-world hour of classroom and “practical” medical training—including actually learning real world CPR—in order to unlock the Medic class.

[stoic thistle]

Have any of yall played full spectrum: warrior?

[valid wave]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

Another US Army simulator (attempt) that went commercial to make some more money.

To this day no one has ever tried that game formula again

[stoic thistle]

Bohemia Interactive has a division that makes training software for the US military.

[mystic echo]

whats the diff between 556 and 300 blackout ingame

[quasi coral]

300 Blackout does more damage to my knowledge

[mystic echo]

are they equal in everything else

[quasi coral]

I don't know if this is true, but 5.56 has better velocity Irl which might apply in-game, probably not though

[jolly verge]

There is no velocity in game

[quasi coral]

Okay, got it

5.56 has better penetration, that's pretty cool

5.56 is literally better

[jolly verge]

Yeah, worst ammo in game

[quasi coral]

That is completely bs

Nothing is worse than Pepperballs

[mystic echo]

So do i use 300 blackout or 556

[jolly verge]

Depends

[quasi coral]

Preferably use the COOLEST guns

You won't notice any difference between them really

But if you really really have to say, 300 Blackout

[jolly verge]

If you can hit torso it's does not really matter, slap AP and you good, but in terms of stat any other rifle ammo is just better than 5.56 because you can run JHP which is better that AP

[mystic echo]

i mean the only difference im seeing is i need to spray down some people to kill them with 300 blackout AP on missions like leviathan and elephant and with 556 i js need like 2 tap

[quasi coral]

But bru let's be real 300 Blackout can't top that HK416 handguard

[jolly verge]

You need 2 taps on any of them, except on lethal obsession with 5.56

[quasi coral]

That might be with you, 300 Blackout and 5.56 works the exact same for me

[mystic echo]

alr got ot

but should i use ap or jhp on blackout?

[quasi coral]

AP because JHP is for nerds

[jolly verge]

JHP unless you on Elephant, Sins of The Father or Leviathan

[mystic echo]

ok so one says ap one says jhp

fuck do i choose

[jolly verge]

AP is for level 4 armor only

You will get less limbs damage, lower stagger chance on flesh hits and high risk to pen civilians through the walls using AP on any other mission

[valid wave]

.300 does seem to take more shots for me.

Neon Tomb was a slog until I went back to 5.56 AP

[jolly verge]

Skill issue

[rugged isle]

Really wish for a sort of thermal optic now that i'm stuck on greased palm...the warehouse it's a mess can't even see where the rounds are coming from and i'm dead.

[valid wave]

Gotta slice that pie

[lost inlet]

"AP takes more shots for me."
look inside
missed headshot and body shot.

[rugged isle]

tried but the mythical mage of the cardboard decided to cast lead on the whole team from idk where.

[limber totem]

Yo I just played a match with a friend it was neon tomb and we heard a gunshot. Before the shot I heard sum dude shout smth like „Allahu Akbar“ or smth I really couldn’t hear much and suddenly after the gunshot the objective bring order to chaos finsished even tho we didn’t see or shoot anybody. Can the like kill their own teammates or can civilians kill the suspects by stealing weapons or what? I’m pretty confused as I never came across smth like that

[tacit gull]

suspects can game end themselves

[limber totem]

Oh

[jolly verge]

Suicide

[limber totem]

Alr thanks didnt even know that

[high estuary]

is it normal for spider to be so difficult for a new player 😭 every time i try it i get slimed

[prime spear]

I prefer blinding them.

[jagged agate]

Why take weak sub machine gun when you can use strong 7.02 rifles??

[atomic shoal]

What age rating is this game? My dad is wondering.

[wheat basin]

Since in censored I would say 13+

[atomic shoal]

Censored?

[wheat basin]

cuz of the womens rights group collective shout they got the game censored af

[atomic shoal]

dang

[wheat basin]

yeah but mods quickly fix that

[atomic shoal]

Aigh

Thanks

[prisma tusk]

well it's pegi 18 on console soooo

[atomic shoal]

It's fine, I told my dad it's 13 and now i can play the game

Cuz he wont let me play PG 18 even tho I'm 15.

[wheat basin]

Its M18

[atomic shoal]

What's M18?

[wheat basin]

Its mature 18

There is no pg 18

As far as im aware

[atomic shoal]

Alright.

[marsh lark]

17+

You can still dismember bodies, the game has sexual content depicted in some way, or at the very least hinted, you can hear the screams of the people you shoot etc. so that alone cannot be 13+

[jagged agate]

The what?!

[wheat basin]

womens rights groups

[jagged agate]

No but like why do women care about my shooty game

@wheat basin

[wheat basin]

cuz of "women exploitation"

[jagged agate]

Where 😭

Ain't no exploiting, I tie up everyone equally

[wheat basin]

that one mission where the women in the cargo container

where the feds take over TOC

telling you to leave it

[prisma tusk]

Nah the women in the container were only tweaked to have their nipples covered. Your getting mixed up with the changes to references of child exploitation.

[jagged agate]

What tweaks

[prisma tusk]

Nipples and genitals generally I should say, the manikins on port were also changed, as well as Gerard's... feature.

[wheat basin]

its in general

its sexualisation of girls in media

which falls under that specific scene

[jagged agate]

Lame

The whole point is that it's bad

We fight against the people that are into that stuff in the game

[prisma tusk]

They were required to remove the nudity. That's why the container was changed, not whatever you're referencing.

[wheat basin]

There is no point fighting it

BREH

[wheat basin]

people will take the fighting at face value and assume we just want nudity in our game

[jagged agate]

People really can't use their brains

[wheat basin]

Eh

they will never understand

[marsh lark]

I am not discussing the nature, but you are mistaking what happened. Some of the details were covered or removed because Void had to comply with Review boards and Microsoft + Sony in order for the game to be released on consoles. Collective shout had nothing to do with that.

[gusty vale]

Imo game should have stayed pc only. Game went from one of the goats to just another generic shooter game after the console release

[marsh lark]

I disagree, but we have our opinions.

[gusty vale]

Eh. Every pc game that goes for console release just ends up being worst than the original versions we had. Why i miss offline games without forced updates. I could still be soloing the older goated versions of RoN if this was the case

[tacit gull]

Maybe in your eyes, nothing fundamental changed with the console addition, worst thing is probably just epic games itself but the core game is just as broken and just as lame

[solemn patio]

imagine ready or not but with firefighters

"PUT THE LIGHTER DOWN!"

"HES REACHING, SPRAY HIM!!"

[kindred stirrup]

hi guys i need to do the S tier on the Dolls map for the hawaii shirt, coild anyone help me?

[hushed iron]

im tryna get that too but i only got B tier while getting everything correct 😐

[kindred stirrup]

come

[rugged isle]

"keep your water on that opening"

[wheat basin]

Just mod it

[kindred stirrup]

Looking for people to help get S on valley of the dolls ( 2 place left )

[ocean spade]

Do yall think RON need a 5-5 PVP

[covert aurora]

Personally no. But there is a planned pvp its just currently on the way back burner, iirc what Kaminsky said.

[jagged agate]

Hamburger people are not welcome here

[jagged agate]

They bringing that back?

[covert aurora]

Afaik, yes. Like i said its just on the way back burner

[jagged agate]

Very cool, I thought it was scrapped completely

[ocean spade]

Okay

[leaden rose]

are servers down rn?

[jagged agate]

Would certainly bring forth a new wave of players, but the struggle would be making sure the main theme of the game isn't lost

[ocean spade]

I finished the game and blew it out when I didn’t have WiFi just tryna see what’s new with the game and if they’ll ever have 5v5

[void trail]

Does anyone know why ready or not on xbox keeps crashing and how to fix it

[jagged agate]

Haven't had that issue

[limber nebula]

When is the next update and what could it be

I want to see some more maps

[timber lynx]

It has been crashing on pc a lot as well, not on mine, bit my friends game keeps crashing

Also, is there any info on the bug that has knives auto secure?

[dull hedge]

does anyone have a fix for the bug that will replace the player's or AI's chosen aesthetic armor with the goofy heavy armor

[hexed lily]

I've never seen this bug before

[faint ibex]

@hexed lily mods don’t disable achievements

[hexed lily]

they don't?

[faint ibex]

They don’t Ive tested it

Did someone tell you otherwise?

[hexed lily]

google/gemini -w-

[faint ibex]

Yeah nah

[faint ibex]

My steam achievements would say otherwise

Official scores is just for leaderboards

[brittle wind]

Praying that the next update will be in December.. 😔🙏

[latent crescent]

collective shout isnt actually a women's rights groups

its a shell for something else, but if i were to mention that here i would be banned

and offend like most of the people here with it too

[tacit gull]

It didn't even have anything to do with collective shout

[latent crescent]

i know one is just letting him know

[misty island]

I was playing and my server closed because connection to Epic closed... I played with all friends on Steam and we were doing post on Hard...

[tacit gull]

[misty island]

what am i supposed to unlink so the broken ass game doesw not crash my game? Steam account?

[latent crescent]

u unlink epic

or just play PC Steam only

i only do PC because of mods

[misty island]

I did, crossplay off

[latent crescent]

aight good

[misty island]

In the game settings it says that I need to vivsit Epic Games website. I did.

[misty island]

It still crashed< that is what I mean

[latent crescent]

hmm, try #💻tech-support

its a server issue on epic's side

from what i hear

[misty island]

It is VOID issue on idiot side

[latent crescent]

rip

[tough veldt]

Nothing changed in terms of gameplay. It's still a tactical shooter

[latent crescent]

yeah dude's just yapping for the sake of yapping

not a single gameplay change with console release

[mossy bloom]

so uhh yall play ready or not?

[wind gyro]

whats that

[rare cargo]

They should add it so you can use your mic to talk to your officers in the single player mode so you don’t have to go to the menu to tell them to do something you can just use your mic

[mossy bloom]

its this cool realistic kinda swat game where you go into buildings and shoot people

[wind gyro]

thats just ready or not

[mossy bloom]

yeah

[wind gyro]

blatant copy of ready or not

[amber fable]

I just joined and already my head hurt

[mossy bloom]

ready or not

its like this cool realistic kinda swat game where you go into buildings and shoot people

i just kinda play it cause i think its pretty fun and stuff

they should add gorillas in the next update tho

and knives

[covert aurora]

"Ready or Not is a 2023 Swat tactical FPS game made by Void Interactive" >:)

[mossy bloom]

yup basically this ^^^^^

[nimble mauve]

Im new here. Is there RP servers that i can play on PS5?

[mossy bloom]

idk

[nimble mauve]

Why say anything then

[covert aurora]

Theres no servers per say, as the game is peer to peer.

[nimble mauve]

Aight

[quasi coral]

Preferably if you want just general effectiveness, AP

If they are armored, ya got it, if they aren't, ya got it, if they are behind a wall, ya got it

[mossy bloom]

idrk

[misty island]

Why rip?

[atomic shoal]

How do i equip my taser and pepper spray?

[tough veldt]

You need to pull out your equipment wheel or use keybinds

The game should've of shown you how to do that if you played the tutorial

@atomic shoal

[quasi coral]

I think so

[mossy bloom]

ncie

[covert aurora]

I dont cause i am never ready....

[granite pilot]

numpad

some people unironically have keyboards with no numpad...

did you know if you type ALT + 11 on your numpad something cool happens?

yee boi

[full shore]

Number pad takes up too much space

[mystic echo]

AP does less damage than jhp right

if yes, then is it a big difference?

[marsh lark]

Depends. It slightly increases body damage and greatly increases limb damage

[mystic echo]

got it, for 300 blackout jhp does it only penetrate decently up to L3A?

[vale plume]

AP is fucking sharp hallow is blunt

[covert aurora]

AP for all!

[mystic echo]

so is AP better than jhp on 300 blackout

[mystic echo]

i found a graph saying that 300 blackout’s jhp can 2 tap penetrate up to L3A armor, is this true

[covert aurora]

That i am not sure.... but maybe @crude prism would know

[crude prism]

Yeh. Assuming you aren't hitting arms first, .300blk JHP will 2 torso everyone not wearing LVL4 plates

[mystic echo]

what difference would hitting arms first make?

[thick dome]

penetration

jhp has poor pen. hit arm first, may not pen through armor or into torso

unless you use 7.62x51 ..then swiss cheese lol

[mystic echo]

yeah but 300 jhp only doesnt pen if armor is L4

[thick dome]

thats not how pen works. each thing it hits reduces pen

[mystic echo]

o

@crude prism so do i use 300 blackout jhp up to L3A armor and switch to AP on L4

[crude prism]

Either slap in AP and call it a day or use JHP and then swap to AP for the maps with L4

[thick dome]

AP on LVL 4

i just use AP all the time really

im never shooting people in the arms on purpose..so JHP really doesnt do anything other thand more arm/leg dmg

[covert aurora]

Shoot centermass let gun climb to head

[mystic echo]

ok ty, ill js do the latter

[thick dome]

the only difference in :JPH and AP is on limb hits and penetration (JHP being less). there's really no reason in the game to use JHP unless for some wierd reason you are targeting limbs

OR are overly worried about shooting through targets/walls and hitting civis or friendlies

[versed hedge]

A suspect just went past every singular one of my operators just to kill me in particular

just ignored the rest of them infront of me

[vale plume]

I know this game is stupid . I tried shooting the suspects but shots don’t even register

[vale plume]

Yeah 👍, it is also piercing so that’s why it named that

[vale plume]

Maybe , even AR is better on unarmored targets

[vale plume]

That shit is a fucking movie

[mystic echo]

so if your aim sucks its better to just use jhp and switch to AP incase u hit limbs on accident?

[thick dome]

not really. center mass with AP is genreally the goto play

fewer hits..esp with the GA51 lol

i mean if you wanna kill people

[mystic echo]

oh, i generally run the arn180 w 300 blackout and jhp because of the extra damage and the decent armor pen, but switch to 300 blackout AP on a L4 armor mission

[thick dome]

i just use ARN180 AP or GA51 ...depends on how much ammo i wanna carry (20 vs 30rd)mag

[mystic echo]

ga51 is 20?

[thick dome]

yes;..all the 7.62x51s are

[mystic echo]

so for arn180 i should use AP over JHP always or use JHP up to l3a armor

?

[thick dome]

i generally use AP all the time

[mystic echo]

got it but JHP is still a viable option?

[thick dome]

sure..just dont see a reason why

offers no advantage except on limb shots

[mystic echo]

damage, all dmg counts

[thick dome]

same dmg to chest or head..

[mystic echo]

fairs but i hit limbs accidentally sometimes so

[thick dome]

i rather be mroe able to shoot through walls and doors haha

[west cloak]

What doors is the C4 able to be placed? Or is it a bug that makes you unable to plant C4?

[covert aurora]

C2? It gets placed higher on the door

[valid mural]

im such an awesome officer

[quasi coral]

It's placed higher above the door handle if I'm not mistaken, pretty sure they changed it

[onyx swift]

Correct, I wish we had an option for the old or new placement

[quasi coral]

Yea, though they both make some sense

What missions ya'll would use the Elcan or VORTEX sight in?

[west cloak]

OHhhhhh that makes sense

[quasi coral]

Preferably the only map I see them fit is Hide And Seek, Greased Palms, Narcos and 3 Letter Triad

[rough needle]

is there a diferrence in recoil reduction between the normal vertical grip and th-grip?

and for recoil is the sfmb brake or asr brake better for recoil?

[mossy bloom]

no

[mossy bloom]

sfmb. but its only a 10% difference

sfmb -40% vertical change
asr -30% vertical change

you can see all of this in the google sheet which is pinned in this channel

[rough needle]

lit ty

[rough needle]

oh mb thanks for telling me

[mossy bloom]

👍

[atomic shoal]

I want to make an outfit inspired by my country's police. How hard is it to make a outfit mod?

Like, only change some small things in an already existing mod?

[west cloak]

Can costumization mods be compatable with non modded servers? Or is that all mods no matter what wont be compatable with non modded? (This seems like a dumb question, but ive seen players wear a mask while i was unmodded)

[marsh lark]

No. Pretty much any Pak the game is going to load is going to trigger a modded lobby tag.

The game does not scan for what it does, it scans for the file, and the existence of said file triggers it.

[west cloak]

ahh ok

[leaden spade]

Thoughts on bank robbery map where you can talk down the robbers and get hostages

[atomic shoal]

Sounds super nice!

[leaden spade]

I think it would revive the game

[atomic shoal]

Yeah! I would play it!

[jaunty pebble]

A lot of things would
Valve needs to add new gameplay variety if they want to have players returning
More maps that follow the same formula just wont do it

[rugged isle]

Would definetly give a follow up to Thank you come again..as if there was a bigger and more planned action this time

[jaunty pebble]

Void*

I wouldnt say negotiations really fits the swat idea but what I would like to see is:
PVP (Realistic R6S type gameplay as well as open PVP in traditional maps)
Better ragdolls (That dont act like they weigh 300 grams (stop flinging in the air I beg))
Counter Terrorism missions (More open map Have to look for a shooter or som)
New tools that casual players would use

And the best idea for RoN in my opinion:
PERSONALLY CUSTOMIZABLE KITS
This means fitting your vest belt and helmet to your needs and wants instead of selecting a number of things in a menu (kinda like ground branch)
Customizing your gun more personally selecting where each attachment goes

[leaden spade]

I think pvp would ruin how tactical the game is

[marsh lark]

In my opinion it would ruin the tactical element. R6S is more or less about your placement on the map, your aim and tactics with operators as to how to utilize gadgets.

Practically any game that is tactical like RoN is going to loose that element in any PVP gamemode.

[cedar mulch]

Currently, only a handful of maps are suitable for PvP, and it may even be necessary to create several maps specifically designed for PvP.

[marsh lark]

Right, but I was trying to say that in my opinion, the game forces you to utilize some tactics, to not rush through doorways. The PvP would probably still be slow paced, but it would loose some of the tactical element we have right now

Initial R6S footage and trailers made it seem like it will be slow paced and tactical, and it turned into what it is now. Operator gadgets, fast gameplay. Most of it is just related to your operator utility and aim.

[jaunty pebble]

Im not saying exactly like R6S I mean in the style of having 1 team be suspects defending a place and the other team is swat trying to get them out

Doesnt have to be competitive or symetrical either you can have less swat than suspects and suspects with worse gear etc

[raw stone]

You guys on pc or ps5?

[cedar mulch]

I believe the suspects' lack of tactical equipment constitutes a disadvantage in itself. Even if they possessed weapons such as machine guns.

[jaunty pebble]

Yeah thats my point though they wont have good armor their ammo will be limited and they wont have much tools to utilize

Setup they might have a few traps to set or time to lock some of the doors
To win they dont have to kill swat not being found would be enough
Stuff like that to keep it unique and not another shooter

[cedar mulch]

According to PvE data, SWAT's armour is inherently superior to that of suspects.

[jaunty pebble]

I mean yeah the swat models can tank headshots from a shotgun by wearing a helmet

Only thing that would need change is ballistic model which allows swat to tank far more shots

Although shouldnt be an issue since the damage model would be the same

[cedar mulch]

Based on your description of PVP, the levels Ides of March, Narcos, and Neon Tomb would be more in line with your vision.

[jaunty pebble]

All smaller maps could work
Port hokan could work for a more traditional PVP with some tweaks to the containers

And then after they add pvp they can add killstreaks a battle pass and maybe a simpsons collab who knows

[cedar mulch]

But suspects' equipment must be at least TLB TH LL BS grade. If it's that bunch of youths from the petrol station, the suspects would be far too outmatched.

[polar gull]

why tf does everytime my keybinds reset for every update, damn this game had so much potention but tf happened

[cedar mulch]

That lot of youngsters' kit wouldn't last two minutes.

[mystic echo]

what do DLCs give you besides extra customisation and extra maps

[jolly verge]

Nothing else

[tough valve]

Does anyone know if there's a mod that brings back the old music from Early Access?
I need my amen breaks back

[tacit gull]

There's a mod that adds the old hotel back

Nothing for the songs though

but you can just play that since it has it

[chilly thorn]

Most the music hasn't changed really. Only one I can think of is Methhouse but that was changed a while ago as it didn't really fit the map.

If you amen breaks play like the gas station or something

It is a shame that Sins of the father doesn't have any music.

[deep sentinel]

Anybody got an idea why the picture in picture mode for the mirror cam doesn't come up anymore

Used to be way more immersive with pip

[jolly verge]

It's still in game settings?

[deep sentinel]

Nah it doesn't come up for me anymore idk why

[tough valve]

Just played through it, doesn't seem it has the upper floor of the hotel though does it?

[tacit gull]

Err i dont think so

The modder was working on that though

[high estuary]

is it normal to struggle on spider the first time or do i just have a skill issue

[nova echo]

hey guys anyone know how can i play ron in vr?

[upbeat shore]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6914

[light niche]

are you guys ready

[light niche]

i hate spider

[wheat basin]

remind me the spider mission?

[high estuary]

the one where you go into brixley talent

dude i'm doing semi well but whne im really close i peak a corner and i get instantly slimed

[wheat basin]

eh

I finished spider in two tries

first time I didnt check roof and I got back stabbed

[robust shadow]

Would love a bank robbery map

[valid raven]

something that would be cool is if a player could play as TOC using drones helmet cameras and CCTV cams they patch into to keep a eye on the situation and feed intel to the team

And that is something SWAT teams actually do

Like i feel like a swat raid is a valid reason to wire tap cameras if available

Maybe even that one dog robot made by Boston dynamics

[rugged isle]

The drone is cool.. maybe with battery(timer) or range allowing to ping either locations or suspects for a set amount of time.

Still visible by npcs so of they spot it they go seeking you and becomes a matter of stealth, position when you drone or with players, one drone, one cover and the rest go inside

[heady wadi]

Love being the best player in a lobby and still getting kicked by the host

[willow sequoia]

is it just or has the player base been real negative lately?

[heady wadi]

Always been since the console version released, these pathetic pc players kicking the console players for no reason, can’t do much about it though

The game is so fun as a whole, but the players make it so much worse, it’s rare to actually get a teammate that’s as good as you cause there’s so many idiots

[edgy linden]

I love hearing hot mics in the background

[stuck beacon]

hot mics?

[willow sequoia]

Honestly... I just feel bad for the console players. You guys lost what made RoN great

I'd like to believe that Void did their best fighting to have the game unchanged when they made it available for consoles

[wraith lance]

I wasn't here a lot before the console release, but yeah, after 2 or 3 updates : damn, it hurt

[heady wadi]

They ruined their own game, we didn’t do shit, we’ve yet to have actual new content for the game which makes it all the more worse to play, I’ve platinumed the game, it’s just become repetitive now, it’s still fun though

We didn’t ask for them to tone down their game, if anything it would’ve been nice to actually have a game that didn’t shy away from the bad stuff

[wraith lance]

I would say that modders gonna do it (for new maps and all that)
But yeah, I see what you mean

[woeful shell]

Steam says i have 14/18 missions S-ranked but in game i have all but 2 tats and the mission screen says i have S-ranked all but relapse and hide and seek. (all are done on standard btw) does anyone know a fix for this

[brave lance]

To get the ruined watch do you have to do it on standard?

[edgy linden]

Leaving the mic on and just hearing a bunch of random noise for no reason, it's pretty standard for console players to do even when reminded.

If we are gonna generalize

[stuck beacon]

ohh yaeh that is annoying

[mighty lava]

epic games is such a bs

[jagged agate]

@willow sequoia I know what kind of man you are

[willow sequoia]

no you don't

[low orbit]

Can anyone help me when I try to copy my mods to paks it says that the total size is 475 gb it has never done this

I have reinstalled a couple times too

Ik and I know the game is not that big I was modding fine until I installed recorded or not then recorded or not broke my game so I verified the integrity of the files then once it was done I tried to paste my mods back and it gives me that error

@acoustic marsh I hate to @ you but you might be able to help

[jagged agate]

Do y'all wait till after asking them to drop guns before shooting the guys with guns

[pale prawn]

Btw anyone wants to do a French Police 90's roleplay?

[low orbit]

Nvm think I got it

I GOT IT LETS GO

[rotund flare]

Are there any YouTube videos yall recommend to watch to play better and more "realistically"?

[slender jungle]

anyone want to run relapse and help me s rank

[low orbit]

I watch the police ones by invictus

[rotund flare]

Ok thanks.

[vocal brook]

i dont think its that big of a deal personally

[mint violet]

The steam comments and reacts on the last dev briefing

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

[latent crescent]

every playerbase ever

[latent crescent]

i just wanna play modded, no hate for console players u guys are great

[latent crescent]

same here, dont worry gng it is what it is

[heady wadi]

We can’t get into modded pc lobbies regardless the game doesn’t let it happen not that I know of

It only happened once when I tried joining a friend directly

[cinder dirge]

I just had to pop in and say seeing a Ready or Not x NFL commercial is something I never expected in a million years wtf.

[mellow bridge]

Is the LOB anything to do with the game or just a funny commercial

Asking since I saw it on the game news and didnt know if it’s a DLC or something

[cinder dirge]

Nah it was just promoting the game. It was a bunch of defensive players (IDK the team) running a kill house in SWAT gear with game footage interspliced.

[latent crescent]

yeah ik

[mellow bridge]

It’s the Seahawks “Legion of Boom”

In my opinion the best defense of all time

[heady wadi]

Funny though even with the money from the console release they’re still Damn slow with updates

[still harbor]

I think someone said new DLC will be available sometime during the first quarter of 2026

[covert aurora]

Thats the most likely outcome going by void's release pattern

[modest hare]

Now we in December let see what happens

[covert aurora]

Also reminder folks the vga's are around the corner. So we could possibly see something then.

[primal gate]

My friend and I just cleared out the entirety of Rust Belt with Colt Pythons

And no achievement

It took several tries so I'm pissed

We used no gadgets

[surreal pelican]

Don't open your device tablet, use chem sticks or pick locked doors

[surreal pelican]

I had the same issue when I was doing beat cop yesterday, got the ach after not using any of these too

[primal gate]

How tf do you open locked doors then

[surreal pelican]

I ran it in quick play, AI can use whatever they want and do actions like picking locks

But to be safe, I just ordered them to kick the doors down

[modest hare]

I play the swat Game when it was out am getting back into it when people try to bully l don’t talk on it as much

[wraith stag]

Anyone trynna run myself and Alejandro are in US#4

[tough veldt]

have your other team mates do it
i ran the achevement in multiplayer and only fired one shot from revolver while everyone else cleared the map

[tough veldt]

I've heard some really buggy reports about the AI squadmates voiding the trophy. As well as the NVGs too

It's best to just run it in multiplayer and have your team mates do it

[surreal pelican]

I didn't use NVGs too, for me I got them all in one shot after not using anything including chemlights and using device tablet

Made the AI kick down doors for me too

[rich cobalt]

think there'll be more attachments for weapons?

would love to see a COA style optic for handguns.

[covert aurora]

It would be kool to see more optic options for sure!

And attachments

I will say the t2 and maginfyer in the recent dev brief has me excited

[surreal pelican]

What range and falloff distance does the beanbag shotgun have? Curious

[feral blaze]

Will they add the peq 15 to the mcx anytime?

[surreal pelican]

How do you guys make the grey sub text appear underneath the black bold objective text? I can't find the settings to enable it. I sent a image in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[jolly verge]

None, you can stun suspect on any distance, on long range you just have to aim a bit higher

[surreal pelican]

Nice

[jolly verge]

You can kick or shoot the doors down. Using tablet, chemlight or NVG is fine

[jolly verge]

It's shows objective description by default, there is no option for that

[surreal pelican]

The description isn't showing up formmenat all

[jolly verge]

Post a screen of that

[surreal pelican]

Can I send it thru DMS? I think my screenshot cooldown timer isn't up yet

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[daring parcel]

bro does anyone have any advice on clearing sinuous trail solo 😭 i did it earlier with my friends and all was fine, but i swear i'm getting my shit absolutely rocked running it solo right now

[surreal pelican]

I clear out the outer perimeter, wedge the outside doors and breach the interior by the second floor doors at rooftop

[daring parcel]

jesus maybe i need to use door wedges more often, just got a 15 min clear, ty for the advice

[surreal pelican]

No prob, yea I use door wedges a lot. I give my AI members 1 slot each (1 slot gives 2 wedges), just make them carry the wedges

[quasi coral]

ACOG /W RMR 🔥 🔥

[covert aurora]

would be neat!

[tough valve]

Say, anyone know why the game seems to take ten years to load?

I'm running it on a pretty fast M.2 SSD, and it's still slow

Why did they have to make CS gas utterly pointless

You have to carry a gasmask just to make use of it, and it's garbage now

AND WHY is the AI still so bad to this day?

I just got back to back 180'd by two AI

[tough valve]

I'm going to crash out i'm trying to S tier hunger strike and for some reason there's always one guy who just runs out and either shoots me or shoots my guys

regardless of who is holding it

[jolly verge]

Shaders compilation

[dense timber]

How do I handle complex rooms when ai can’t handle it?

[worldly steppe]

How do i know when to use a wedge

[torpid onyx]

game load times should largely be the same regardless of your ssd speeds especially for m.2 hardware

[torpid onyx]

is there a rotation behind you and you don't gotta go that way?
wedge it

it's just to stop enemies rotating behind you or running away around the map

you can also do it to lock people in certain areas and purposfeully set up a kill zone/bottleneck/trap for some strategy too but easiest use is just block rotations

[young wedge]

Guys how am i supposed to shoot with the secondary weapon with a shield ?

When i left click it does basically nothing

[digital bobcat]

aim first

and dont use mod weapon

[young wedge]

I tried this

[fleet shard]

I wanted to turn on pip for the optiwand but I can’t find the toggle in settings I play on console

[torpid onyx]

by "basically" "nothing" do you mean you don't have a gun or you are shooting your gun it just "doesn't do damage" or smth

[torpid onyx]

setting doesn't exist for console because reasons

[fleet shard]

Ah alright thanks for the confirmation

[torpid onyx]

I don't really know why it doesn't exist for console but yeah

[young wedge]

I can take the gun, but it don’t fire

[cosmic arrow]

Bottleneck and C2 and gas goes hard

[late prism]

Does it show you sticking the gun around the side of the shield?

[young wedge]

Yeah

[late prism]

And the pistol fires when you're not holding the shield?

[young wedge]

I guess? Didn’t try

I’ll be at home in few hours

[shadow heron]

bruh

[rotund willow]

O

[young wedge]

Yes

What’s the problem then?

[late prism]

Honestly no idea I haven't heard of this before

Unless some goblin keeps stealing your magazine every time you put the shield up I can't think of a reason

[jolly verge]

Or someone forgot to assign secondary ammo

[late prism]

They said it fired when they weren't using the shield

[plain raptor]

I don't want to sound condecending, but I think the player must not have ammo on them for the pistol at that instance. The game hasn't been updated in a while, I highly doubt this is a new glitch.

[young wedge]

Fak you’re right

It was working just before i changed my stuff and i forgot to take some secondary gun ammo

[plain raptor]

Heh, that's alright, I did it too once back in the day

[lapis hazel]

can we expect a dlc this year?

[tacit gull]

probably not

[late prism]

It's possible (yet still unlikely) one could be announced but with only 30 days or so remaining I doubt it will be released.

[stone stump]

wdym "reasons"? pip is very demanding

[cedar mulch]

If VOID were acquired like BlackFoot, would RON fare much better? Finding a sound company

👍

[surreal pelican]

How do I enable the flavour text (grey text) in the device mission briefing? It's the grey text that should appear underneath the black bold main objective text

It's not showing up on my tablet at all, im on pc

[tacit gull]

Why would that affect RON at all?

RON already has better sound than most games minus the acting

That is probably the LEAST lacking aspect of the game

I also have no clue what blackfoot is to be fair

[heady spade]

how can i remove my helmet?

[midnight spoke]

Does anyone know why I can’t join my friends in multiplayer?? We have the allowed mods thing checked but it isn’t letting us join. Just says timed out

[tacit gull]

select the no helmet option in the equipment menu

[heady spade]

thx

[zinc lantern]

I don’t think so. There’s still an update on the way that hasn’t been given a date yet, and I’m pretty sure the DLC will come after that. I thought someone with VOID said that the next DLC would be in 2026, but I think they said that around the console release so not sure if timelines have changed

[tough valve]

Say, does barrel length increase the lethality of each weapon? Does an SR-16 hit harder than an ARWC or MK18 for example?

[marsh lark]

No, damage is done by caliber

and type of ammo

Though I use SR-16 when it comes to vanilla weapons

[tough valve]

So.. basically there's no real reason to use longer barrel length options. That's stinky :((((

[marsh lark]

Most of the time length does not matter, because you will rarely find yourself in a position where the longer barrel gave you such a disadvantage that it lost you the map

If you love kissing door frames then it might be a problem, yes.

[tough valve]

Also uh, is there a chart anywhere that tells me what armor types are used on each map? I can't find one just looking it up online

[zinc lantern]

There’s this one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/htmlview#gid=1721255639

[latent crescent]

higher bullet velocity and cooler

though i think the bullets in this game are hitscan

[zinc lantern]

I think the only noticeable difference with barrel lengths is that shorter rifles tend to have more recoil

[tacit gull]

i think its the exact opposite

[rugged isle]

Beside the caliber and eventual suspect armor i don't think there is a mechanic for bullets velocity..

At least vanilla..my mod folder is so crowded that idk what is supposed to be actual game and what due to x mod

[thick dome]

g36, arn180, and ga51 are the 3 guns i ise..cause I like the way they look. I would like to use the sa58..but that things recoil is bonkers compared to the ga51

[rich cobalt]

i feel like TOC's voicelines should be a little more emotional or be dynamic depending on the situation
different voicelines for dead officers or dead civilians when reporting either instead of "tag em and keep moving"

maybe a little morose if an officer or two is dead after heading back to HQ.

[lone sigil]

@lone sigil

[latent crescent]

i feel like TOC’s voicelines should actually sound like radio chatter

[cosmic arrow]

I like the lines TOC says when I 360 noscope dome the granny in Ends of the Earth

[rich cobalt]

we are under the eyes of a police agency from california
we have a law enforcement dispatcher who talks to us
some humanity should be shown, not every agency is the combine from half life

the current TOC still sounds robotic
it's a semi-improvement from the corny, duke nukem TOC we had in the legacy version of RoN, but there's a lot that can be added.

[cosmic arrow]

Are there mods which change up the voice of TOC? @rich cobalt

[latent crescent]

rico’s immersive toc

[sudden sky]

Length never mattered, only how you use it

[sudden sky]

There are already lots of voiceless but for some reason they are buggy and don't apply

[rich cobalt]

as far as i'm aware, there aren't any that fit the setting of los suenos

most are either AI or are genuine, but reused chatter from different agencies.

[hybrid belfry]

When will we get new 3x optic

[rich cobalt]

this does give me an idea to learn from someone who worked in a TOC command post and create dynamic voicelines of my own.

[cosmic arrow]

You’re definitely right about how TOC doesnt sound as ‘human’. At the same time they are expected to have professionalism and they are SWAT so the bar is definitely higher.

Former LEO here and having worked with dispatchers, 100% they do sometimes show emotion on the air (but mostly it could be annoyance).

I would say that TOC does sound more pissed if you smoke a civie though

[tacit gull]

Thing is this is like the 3rd TOC rework and it's still not good enough

[solemn patio]

Imagine wall destruction physics

[sharp lagoon]

sup guys idk if i wanna get ron

[solemn patio]

Why?

Are you

[vocal brook]

Do you get penalties to ranks for time taken

[sharp lagoon]

i jus not sure if ill like it

[solemn patio]

Why?

[sharp lagoon]

uuuh

[solemn patio]

Its difficult but fun

[sharp lagoon]

mm

how many missions without dlcs are ther

[solemn patio]

About 20

I believe

2 you need to complete the game first for

[marsh lark]

no

[solemn patio]

Imagine if we had a glock 20

Actually wait a glock 22

I want 40 s&w

[sharp lagoon]

o

yo medojed

does cd keys count as "Gray market"

[tacit gull]

medojed more like

cuh 3

[tacit gull]

yes

[sharp lagoon]

o i see

[marsh lark]

Anything that is not official market store.

[sharp lagoon]

but isnt it like official or smth

[sharp lagoon]

ooh okay

[marsh lark]

The only difference being if the store has some form of cooperation with another store if that makes sense

[tacit gull]

Only official deal i think is with GMG, but if you're unsure about it then dont bring it up

[sharp lagoon]

kinda its just cheaper thats only why cuz ive used it befor

[undone bane]

Off topic asf but we should have the option to have ai teammates in multi-player matches

[sharp lagoon]

i think ill get teh gam

[marsh lark]

Right, but do not discuss it. There are risks with these retailers

It is not an official store

[sharp lagoon]

oki

[tacit gull]

There's also a reason they're way cheaper

[marsh lark]

They could be stolen, or just bought in different region/country where it is cheaper and then put on the store. Anyways you are risking shit, so your risk.

[solemn patio]

Love hitting headshots on suspects at range

Greased palms felt so fun when I got good at using the eotech to snipe

Off topic really wish that the shotgun suspects killed faster

Guy with a double barrel somehow shot me point blank and I lived.

[sharp lagoon]

ye

[solemn patio]

I love using my pistol like a second primary and not an oh shit gun, it makes long guns actually work for cqb

[young ridge]

hey, im considering buying ron on ps5 i have a thing for serious gritty games but ive seen alot of controversy over censorship, bugs and downgraded graphics and performance. is it worth full price?

im thinking maybe i should wait and see if stuff get fixec, or did it already and all the controversy is outdated

[tough veldt]

Build a PC

[young ridge]

nah but didnt they downgrade the pc version as well from what i read

[tacit gull]

Not only do suspects have weaker shotguns but you also have armor on, of course its not going to damage you

[tough veldt]

You should still build a PC over a console regardless of game youre buying

But ya
Game runs fine on ps5

[solemn patio]

Consoles are (or were) budget friendly

[tough veldt]

Well the only bugs ive encountered are the floating bullets and AI squadmates trying to disarm bombs on civilians in the neon tomb map, and the AI squadmates not responding to commands

You'll see a lot of players complaining about S ranks and greased palms on this server. Mainly because suspects tend to become John Rambo, especially on hard mode. DLC achievements on consoles are currently bugged.

[solemn patio]

I will build a pc someday.. not today.

[solemn patio]

(Maybe never, I love procrastinating legit anything)

I just encountered bulletproof glass bro

[solemn patio]

Not in thank you come again

Like a window in the third mission was legit immune to gunfire

[tough veldt]

That one staircase in 3 letter triad has a similar problem

The railing has on it has a wack ass hitbox

[sharp lagoon]

so yo think tis worth

i only jus realised yo user is bile titan lol

[solemn patio]

Yes

Im a helldiver AND apart of d platoon trust

Hear me out

When your weapon is out of ammo it becomes a melee

[daring parcel]

please tell me im not the only one that despises twisted nerve

[tacit gull]

she twistin on my nerve till i'm ready or not

[daring parcel]

well
running it solo isn't too bad because you can command your squad and i swear squad AI is cracked
but my friend and i tried 2 manning it
lord have mercy
idk if its just a skill issue but we were getting clapped

[stable kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921528178789474314/1290632376753586279/caption.gif

[celest epoch]

My cousin and I 2 man Twisted Nerve all the time. The most trouble we encounter is the guys with knives coming from like nowhere. We just take it low and slow

[sharp lagoon]

lol

[hushed iron]

r u able to get S tier on valley with lethal?

[marsh lark]

no, you cannot get S at any point if you incapacitate a suspect

[tough veldt]

no
incapcitated suspects are worth the same as dead suspects

5 points

you need to equip your dudes with pepper ball rifles and gasmask

give yourself the beanbag shotgun and a gas mask

[jolly verge]

You can give swat ai beanbag as well

Or just M32A1

[daring parcel]

why is it that people struggle so much with ides of march? i think i got it on like, my second or third attempt
maybe i just got really good RNG with the enemy spawns but i cleared the level pretty easily

[tiny escarp]

i got teamkilled by pepperballs.

[daring parcel]

how the hell 😭

[tiny escarp]

my screen went red

and i dead

[tough veldt]

Wear a gas mask

It nullifies pepperballs

[tiny escarp]

but i wanna be cag bro

also i shot 3 shooters in elephant in like 20 seconds

didnt even see it coming bro😭

just popped out from a corner and sprayed them

[stone bay]

is cs gas still bugged?

me and my buddys are trying to get through relapse and they insist on stingers

[tough veldt]

gas masl offers nearly the same bullet proof protection as the ballistic mask, with the added benifit of nullifying pepper balls

[stone bay]

is gas still not working as intended?

[tough veldt]

cs gas is wierd

[deep sentinel]

Yeah

The range was accidentally changed and nerfed the fuck out of it

[tough veldt]

the range is really small

[stone bay]

so its not worth it compared to flash and sting?

[tough veldt]

and it takes more time for it to take effect

[deep sentinel]

I'm guessing they aren't gonna fix it until the next update which isnt coming until Q1 of next year

[deep sentinel]

Way better to bring stingers

[stone bay]

we're running relapse

[deep sentinel]

Better range than flashes and they have a higher % of making people surrender

Or flashes if you want them to be stunned for longer

Just depends on how you play

[stone bay]

well we're just trying to get through it on hard

lethal

we've been getting messed up hard

[tough veldt]

try not to kill the HVP

[stone bay]

well yeah no

[tough veldt]

or else it wont count for completion

[stone bay]

we're trying to take him alive

[deep sentinel]

I'd suggest one person running the launcher and the other person lighting mfs up

[stone bay]

Im running the Mp5/10 and USP with JHP because they both one tap incap

but im shield man

[tough veldt]

the bomb rooms were a bane for my hard mode play through of relapse

[deep sentinel]

Okay MP5 10mm is your first problem

[stone bay]

i mean i dont even use the thing, im often just soaking bullets

[deep sentinel]

It's a good gun but most of the guys on relapse love to eat bullets

I wouldn't bother with the shield unless you have at least 2 teammates that can play off it

[stone bay]

i mean im just not trying to kill them all the way. buddy wanted us to do it to get B

i love the shield, im going to continue using it

my buddies take shots from behind me while i cover the front and soak damage

[deep sentinel]

Having 2 people playing off a shield is so much better than having 1 because if somebody runs dry they can switch for a reload

I despise the shield

Completely useless when you know how to take cover efficiently

[stone bay]

oh yeah, bomb vest

[stone bay]

i am the cover

[deep sentinel]

True but then you're practically useless apart from blocking half the bullets

You offer practically no use apart from some pea shooter shots

[stone bay]

which on hard has a lot of value distracting targets

[deep sentinel]

Eh

I've had no problems doing the missions hard without a shield player

There's way more better long tactical options you could be using

[stone bay]

my other buddies are using mirror and sting launcher

okay, listen, were just trying to get a B on it

[deep sentinel]

I'd get rid of the mirror cam and take another M320