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[storm belfry]

I want to have my M14 LOOONG

[fading anvil]

it's the same with the G36 in The Division 2. I hate it, like why remove the rail 😭

[storm belfry]

Give me BACK my barrel length

[past maple]

I played Ron on a friends console first 5 seconds I killed my whole team with a grenade

[serene prairie]

lol

[storm belfry]

🗣️ !?

[past maple]

I didn’t know wtf I was doing 😭 I haven’t played on a console since the release of Elden ring

[storm belfry]

such peak new player activities

[fading anvil]

idc if a gun performs good, if it looks ugly I don't want it. 😡

[past maple]

Have you ever play metro 2033 cause imma hold ur hand while I say this

[storm belfry]

Give me a fucking M1 Grand and I'll fight em, I don't want none of this fancy automatic carbines!

[past maple]

Is he typing a fucking essay 😭🙏

[fading anvil]

Metro's guns are fine, games like COD, battlefield, tac shooters. If the gun is goofy looking I don't fw it.

[storm belfry]

he was crying at the thought of cod vanguard

[past maple]

Why did it take you 3 mins to say this 😭😭😭

[fading anvil]

SWAT mf kicking down your door and he's got a M1 Garand

[fading anvil]

I was watching something 🤷‍♂️

[storm belfry]

Not even SWAT dressed in a WW2 GI uniform

[past maple]

For the 4th of July just that day they should give everyone including NPCs muskets and flintlocks

[storm belfry]

a flintlock secondary would be insane for an achievement weapon

[fading anvil]

load grapeshot for greased palms

[past maple]

Make it do like 200 damage to any body part

Just straight takes off a leg

[storm belfry]

Broad side attack

[fading anvil]

jesus christ they release a new one like every fucking second 🤮

[past maple]

I can’t remember which cod is which I just go oh look new game what’s this a character that was dead 7 years ago in a campaign nice (MW2019)

[storm belfry]

Judge NEEDs a LITERAL hand Cannon

[past maple]

Fucking Alex Mason was dead (Arrives in Black Ops Cold War)

[fading anvil]

'we're gonna go back to milsim cosmetics' > American dad with AI generated voice lines 😐

[solemn patio]

Is it just me or does the 1911’s irons look so good in this? (Mainly the glowy bit)

[past maple]

For ready or not?

[solemn patio]

Yah

[past maple]

I haven’t looked to much into the Guns of RON but all models look amazing

[solemn patio]

The TLE 1911 not the ugly other

[past maple]

Don’t you DARE disrespect the 1911 the trusty side arm of an American

As well as the starting weapon for black ops 1

[deep patio]

cough cough obsolete cough cough

[past maple]

Quit coughing and go quarantine

[solemn patio]

Atleast it doesnt negligently discharge (p320) cough cough

[fading anvil]

Germans had to be nerfed after losing twice

[past maple]

You mean buffed?

[deep patio]

-# do people actually like the p320?

[fading anvil]

a ying and yang

[solemn patio]

Some do, mainly for its light trigger

I hate glock triggers so bad bro

[solemn patio]

The glocks a good gun I hate the trigger tho

Im talking irl rn oops

[fading anvil]

they got assimilated into their successors, the United States Government. 😎

[solemn patio]

Lowk the usp45 looks cooler than the 1911 sorry

[fickle silo]

has anyone done sleeper agent recently

cause there is so much conflicting information online and weve tried so many different strats but none work

[gentle juniper]

ive done it

[fickle silo]

when and how

[gentle juniper]

looking back at achievement one sec. wasnt long ago maybe a few weeks ago, im on pc

august 13th i got it

a few weeks ago

[fickle silo]

nice

[serene prairie]

i’m new anyone know a good ar and pistol i could use *im on console btw”

[fickle silo]

howd you do it tho

did you have to report or just kill

[gentle juniper]

You have to kill / incapacitate. reporting doesnt matter. However, we split the building. So one team of 3 went low the other team of 2 went high. we did it on S tier. So we "arrested all 15 suspects within 15 seconds"

the 40MM is key

or just spray and pray and dont die.

speed is your friend, we all ran the 40mm grenade, flash launcher.

[toxic harness]

Pistol: Five-SeveN or MK-V if you own Deluxe

[serene prairie]

ok thx do you know a good assault rifle too or no?

[fickle silo]

so you had to arrest them as well

or just stun them and make em surrender

[gentle juniper]

kill or surrender

[fickle silo]

alr

[toxic harness]

Personal preference, however if you want better guns, use anything other than 5.56 like the Blackout or 7.62

[serene prairie]

ok thanks so much

[fickle silo]

weve done a run where we definitely killed 15 in 15sec intervals

[gentle juniper]

to me there are no meta guns like in COD. I use whatever fits the situation. Using a long rifle, in a "room to room" mission is terrible. Due to threshold blocks, and tight corners. So smg, and shotguns are my preferred. I also play this like real life, so it doesnt exactly match the "video game" play style.

If its a map like Rust belt, Shotgun and Long rifle is what i use. The type of ammo also matters bw AP and JHP

[serene prairie]

on thank you i’ll keep that in mind

ok*

[gentle juniper]

AP is more for missions you know enemies are wearing BA. If they are just t shirt and shorts, JHP

And yes, there is a difference. Armored enemies are like Superman vs JHP.

[gusty horizon]

Don’t you love it when this game does no hit registration and then cross map hit registration

I can’t win

And I’ve just realised I’ve done nothing but complain on this server lmao I apologise

[serene prairie]

thank you so much @gentle juniper

[gentle juniper]

ive noticed that certain rounds, act weird depending on distance and placement

so AP vs JHP

i just stopped playing after fighting a seal team full of john wicks on rust belt. every enemy within 5 meters would eat the rounds and kill us. An enemey who was 25 meters or more, would fold like a lawn chair....

key note, i was on hard

[gentle juniper]

We are always looking for fillers. If you ever want to join. We treat it like real life, cause its what most of us do IRL. But, we will teach you like Pap did for Vader

https://tenor.com/view/army-gif-21376034

[serene prairie]

ok i’ll keep it in mind tysm

[fickle silo]

alr we just did a run where we got like 18 people surrendered in time but that didnt work

so i guess i have to arrest or incap, not kill??

def not arresting its just me and my friend

il try incap 15 with slugs to the body

[gentle juniper]

try that, if they surrender you have to arrest them

[fickle silo]

we died before we could corral them all into one room

[gentle juniper]

if they dont, shoot

[fickle silo]

gotcha

[gentle juniper]

yeah i did it with 5 ppl

lol

[gusty horizon]

Is there any way I can figure out where the last enemy is

Cause I’ve searched and checked every area

Oh come one

I might actually cry

[civic mica]

that always happen with me i spend like 15 more mins on the last suspect

try clearing every room in order

[gentle juniper]

what mission

[gusty horizon]

Greasy palms

I’ve just clipped what’s just happened I’ll send it to you

It was the last guy

[hardy aurora]

Very intense mission ngl

[gusty horizon]

I was in there for 20 minutes and would have had S rank

[civic mica]

yep that map is way to big

[hardy aurora]

I wonder if they add more maps in future updates

[gusty horizon]

I moved back to the first room from the big warehouse area

I could have either gone straight down the corridor into the shop area or gone right into the supply area

I had a quick peak down the supply side saw the 2 were still coughed and no one was there so I went down the corridor

I go into the shop room and low and behold guess who runs out the supply door and kills me even though I shot first

I’ve clipped it and I’m fuming

[civic mica]

the bots on RoN are like trained SEALS icl

i use the here i come ai mod for a more realistic suspects and cigs

[gusty horizon]

Someone give me image perms a second

[civic mica]

civs*

[gusty horizon]

I’m just fuming that I’ve been on this mission for 23 resets and I still haven’t cleared it

I spent the last 8 minutes trying to find this guy and he comes out of a room I checked 15s earlier

[civic mica]

maybe wedge

[hardy aurora]

For me the most intense mission has to be the spider

[gusty horizon]

I litterally looked in the room he was in and didn’t see him

If I didn’t care about S rank or even A I would just go in guns blazing and kill them all but yk

[civic mica]

spider isn’t that hard i would maybe think relapse because it has like two buildings and 3 floors

[civic mica]

maybe go around the building first and wedge the doors then clear inside so no one can run out the building

[hardy aurora]

Ever played the Levianthan?

That one is insane

[civic mica]

yeah

[hardy aurora]

Like you have to always be aware of your surroundings

[civic mica]

i took 1 hour on that map

[hardy aurora]

Alone or with a team?

[civic mica]

i played with the AI but they kept getting killed and i got less points so i just went solo but i couldn’t find the last cov

civ

[gusty horizon]

I may or may not be running heavy armour with 4 flashbangs

[civic mica]

lol

[hardy aurora]

What do you think of the mission stolen valor?

[magic nexus]

Mind if I side in this conversation?

[civic mica]

that one is creepy as shit

[hardy aurora]

Tell me about it

I had a hard time completing it

[civic mica]

the dude hanging

[hardy aurora]

Another scary mission is the cult one

[magic nexus]

Isn't that in the first dlc?

Second one was the waters right?

[civic mica]

idk why but the easiest mission for me to S tier solo was valley of dolls

2 tries

[magic nexus]

Cap. Or maybe it is easy and I'm just ass

[hardy aurora]

Carriers of the Vine

[civic mica]

i got D tier lethal when i first started playing but after like 6 days i tried again and got S tier 2 tries then i went on ted S tier ong all the maps

i’m currently on the spider mission

gonna hop on later and finish it

[hardy aurora]

If you need help let me know

I have completed that mission 4 times

[magic nexus]

Took me awhile. Though think its cuz I did it completely solo.no ai team no friends.

[civic mica]

i keep getting stuck at that building

i’m doing it solo

[magic nexus]

Then I Gave up and tried with the ai team.

[civic mica]

i’m trying to S tier the maps solo this week

not going to happen but worth a try

[hardy aurora]

Try using a grenade launcher

[civic mica]

i use the mirror and mirror all the doors but i entered the building with the kid stuff and i flashed the other room after mirroring under the door

but they get stunned then get back up and shoot

[hardy aurora]

That is why I always carry the breach shotgun

I rather blast the door

[civic mica]

i wish i could carry two specials

[hardy aurora]

And go full John wick mode

[civic mica]

i kinda go slow and quiet

[civic mica]

yeah i would die instantly

[hardy aurora]

One thing I wish we had in the game are dogs

[civic mica]

yoo that would be fire

[hardy aurora]

Or drones

[civic mica]

gripping on the leg while i blast the head

[hardy aurora]

Drones would help a lot on missions

[civic mica]

yeah like irl swat

[hardy aurora]

Where you have a huge map

For example the hospital terrorist attack one

That map is huge

[civic mica]

and maybe chill maps like irl houses and stuff because swat doesn’t always go on missions with the cartel

i would def want new maps

[hardy aurora]

Same

Imagine a map in which you raid the White House

[civic mica]

that would be massive

[hardy aurora]

Yeah

[civic mica]

shotgun or mirror?

i feel like mirror is more useful

[hardy aurora]

I like both

But when it comes to clearing rooms faster I prefer the shotgun

[civic mica]

yeah ima just hop on and do a leathal run

[verbal meteor]

when doing the narcos lethal pistols only can you use tacticals such as battering rams and mirror?

[viral stratus]

fucking how

[civic mica]

idk luck? took me 2 tries

[desert island]

gas station

[viral stratus]

wait hollon you might be onto something, everyone always talking about “15/20 hard S” but you are thinkin outside the box my friend

[storm belfry]

He's on something, not on to something

[gentle juniper]

yeah valley of dolls was easy for S tier. i found the meta loadout for S tier. Me and buddies did all missions and dlcs missions in a day on s tier using it

and no, i cant share. <.< >.>

[toxic harness]

which difficulty?

[civic mica]

standard

[toxic harness]

Me when someone said "S rank is easy", until I check their profile and they actually served time (cheater cuz past experience)

[toxic harness]

Yeah go try Hard S

[civic mica]

prob why

[storm belfry]

S rank is easy on Standard

[toxic harness]

True, but Hard mode... (online ptsd is kicking in)

[hazy carbon]

s rank is not as hard as people make it out to be

even on hard i would dare say

[toxic harness]

NO. NO NOT THE PIXEL PEAK! NOT THE INSTANT HOSTAGE, NOT THE ONE TAP RNG!

[storm belfry]

To manage to pull it off iron man mode hard and full S rank is the real spookie dookie

[hazy carbon]

4 toddlers (your ai teammates) vs terminator t1000000 with thermal vision, wallhacks, and aimbot

[toxic harness]

NOT THE PISTOL BEING MORE DANGEROUS THAN A SHOTGUN!

[hazy carbon]

lets make standard beatable by an infant solo and make hard mode unrealistically difficult 😄

[storm belfry]

I asked a friend about it, why does it feel like my AIs get worse the higher my difficulty

[toxic harness]

Dev chat leaked

[hazy carbon]

i want to love the game

nbut holllly shit man

why do they do this to us

[storm belfry]

I think that it maybe that hard just makes it where both sides use the AI whenever they're completely unbound by the end to listen to judges commands

[toxic harness]

Not only Hard is skill check, but a team check

[hazy carbon]

hard is an aim and reaction time check

[toxic harness]

Like if they can't do shit and constantly blame to the point they don't change, yeah go get a different team at this point

[hazy carbon]

tactics go out the window

[storm belfry]

Every other peak is a fucking quick time event

[hazy carbon]

slow peeking just gets you killed and even if you know a suspect is there you will usually trade even after pre aiming

[storm belfry]

I tried the first mission on hard and then I watched 4 dudes stack up in a line as my AIs did a live firing squad while I tried arresting just one of them.

[toxic harness]

Hard S on Ironman is straight torture

[hazy carbon]

all suspects are bastards

at some point i think people stopped playing for realism and started playing for some gamey challenge

[storm belfry]

Gerald's house on hard mode made me scream out "HOW MANY BOMBS ARE THERE!" before switching to "WHY THE FUCK IS THE FIRST FLOOR KEEP EXPLODING EVERY TIME I WALK IN!" to "WHY IS KING DEAD! WE JUST SPAWNED IN!"

[toxic harness]

They're like skill check lol

[storm belfry]

It's fucking Dead By Daylight sometimes

[hazy carbon]

we should have an intermediate mode between standard and "hard" where suspects have human reaction times and less wallhacks

[storm belfry]

I gotta hit a generator skill check or suddenly judge just tapped the door with his hip and now half the building is gone along with 3 of my teammates

[hazy carbon]

you should frag your ai teammates NOW

[storm belfry]

I almost have... many times before

[hazy carbon]

legit dead weight

i would rather bring a puppy along

[storm belfry]

I justifiably use them as bait and flash carriers

Max armor and shield with 3 flash

[civic mica]

i use the here i come tactical mod it was too much with hard mode so i just did standard, ima try hard mode soon tho

[hazy carbon]

here i come is pretty good but feels too easy sometimes

[civic mica]

i started playing like 2 weeks ago i didnt know abt that

[hazy carbon]

someday somebody will figure out how to make a difficult but realistic ai mod or maybe the devs will fix it

one can only hope

[civic mica]

yeah i get killed my a head shot from across the map

lol

[hazy carbon]

i can always tell when i'm about to be headshot on hard

cuz the suspects will do one single shot and then lock onto your melon like some sort of industrial head shooting machine

[civic mica]

i just started to S tier the maps on hard

currently on the spider

[civic mica]

lol

[storm belfry]

I can just see like melon vs hydraulic press

[hazy carbon]

i should put a watermelon in the press at work tomorrow

i think the guys would find that humorous

[civic mica]

they might be retired seals or sum shit

[storm belfry]

Bro

Sometimes

The left behind feels like babies compared to Cartel goons who be trick shoting me like 2000s cod

Don't even get me stated on the fuckers on the second mission who be hitting you with neo level shots from the 2nd floor

[civic mica]

LOL

it took me a day to beat that one

i just skip the first level and go from the side

[storm belfry]

Like bro I'm trying to play ready or not, I didn't sign up to pull up and get hit by a gang member who's got fucking cybernetics

[hazy carbon]

i don't think seals react within 50ms of seeing someone's head through crates at 100 meters and immediately dome them

[civic mica]

they be no scoping you from across the map with a fucking 9mm

[storm belfry]

Not even mentioning the streamer eating a stinger, 2 tasers then a quarter my mag of 556

[hazy carbon]

someone please correct me if i'm wrong because then i'm playing tier one terrorist simulator and that would be pretty cool

[civic mica]

that of course that fatass would eat them all like its nothing

[storm belfry]

I think hard mode is genuinely what it feels like to be Steven Hawking in a fucking marathon

[storm belfry]

I turned that mf into Joe from family guy over his ass just REFUSING to die and taking my arm nearly off

[civic mica]

he always pulls out that glock after you leave him for 1 second to arrest the civs

[storm belfry]

like it was a game of will he pass out of blood loss or will my arm get turned to Swiss cheese

[storm belfry]

I've never seen that mf go WITHOUT pulling that shit

[civic mica]

LOL and after that he picks up a smg from the suspect you just killed next to him

[storm belfry]

I literally blew down his door with C2 then threw 2 flashes and a stinger down the hall, THEY ALL MISSED HIS FAT ASS

Somehow I miss two taser shots on an invisible wall above the wall on his bed

[civic mica]

even his chat was flaming his ass up

[gentle juniper]

🤔

[storm belfry]

Maybe that'll burn some calories off him

[copper dome]

Has gas been fixed yet?

[weak kernel]

I enjoy hard but I didn’t realize it was that big of a change but I never played Prior to console release

Only way to go

[toxic harness]

It's nerfed

[long dome]

With a predicament of the gas not being able to be reliably used in any scenario in the current game build, you're basically calling the devs incompetent

Let's just say it really is bugged, makes them look a bit better.

[mental ivy]

I only play MP friends only by myself to get rid of the stupid bots

Also the flash grenade launcher does nothing to suspects for me

I dont get why people are talking abt it

[cedar mulch]

left behind at a disadvantage in both equipment and manpower

[long dome]

It's the most OP non-lethal option in the game.

[toxic harness]

when the fuck did I say incompetent? There is a video that shows how the gas really worked like they added time to react for suspect ai

[cedar mulch]

The only weapon they can boast about is the M249.

[mental ivy]

it literally isnt doing anything to suspects, do you have to hit them head on with it?

[toxic harness]

You have to be pulling my ass just blandly tell me that I said the devs are incompetent

[mental ivy]

I shot at the floor in front of them tried everything but they just act like nothing happened

[storm belfry]

not training, Cartel guy with a pistol vs a ex army with a custom AR. Guess who's gotten me more

[toxic harness]

They increased the reaction time where suspects can just walk out of the gassed room easier than 1.0. Might as well use Flash if you want to Hard S rank

[long dome]

Hit them directly or the ground in front of them in the direction they face at the time.

Flash bang needs to blind their cone of vision for it to work reliably.

[mental ivy]

Beanbag shotgun way more reliable for me

[copper dome]

Been more then nerfed it’s utterly useless lmao. Chuck it into a normal sized room and absolutely nothing happens

[rare canyon]

Need some advice on getting A+ on Hide n Seek. Any will do🙏

[mental ivy]

Its how I've S-ranked all my missions by myself so far

[winter wyvern]

Is anyone elses ready or not crashing when trying to load in 23 Megabyte in commander mode

[toxic harness]

Prob you. Make sure you have no outdated mods or something

[civic mica]

yeah that happened to me and i had an outdated mod

[long dome]

By implying the nerf is intentional, you indirectly did.

It's the stats of the gas cloud (range and lifespan) and the damage it is doing (or rather lack there of) that makes them in combination with the new AI practically useless.

[toxic harness]

For A+, you can kill one or two suspects, but arrest everyone else. Get all evidence and objectives

[long dome]

Don't forget the optional objectives.

[toxic harness]

Again you're pulling my ass by trying to interpret my simple message of saying it's nerf to "oh you call the devs stupid".

The Devs did tweak the ai a bit dumber as they did claim they're way too smart, even on hard mode as they want us to do more work which nobody does agree with that change, yet I'm still not calling them incompetent

Plus there is a video by MMMM where he compared Console Release to LSS Patch 2 where the devs claimed the gas is "fixed"

[long dome]

You keep ignoring the gas cloud change.
But you agree with me its bugged, since you refuse the other alternative

[toxic harness]

I love twisting someone's words. It's like Twisted Nerve or something

Yet you act like I have greased palms or something

[winter wyvern]

Say that again....

[long dome]

It's not the words, it's the conclusion.
It is either bugged unintentionally or nerfed intentionally, if it is nerfed, the devs are not competent enough to balance what worked reliably before.

[toxic harness]

We should play hide and seek

[humble sorrel]

hold on a minute…

[toxic harness]

What? Feeling lethal obsession?

[analog relic]

someone wanna play in western eu servers?

[sharp pecan]

I need some real tips for a newbie please

No sarcasm this time

[prime spear]

mods- fuck, you're a controller player...
use gas.

and, use the OSW.

[cedar mulch]

That depends on what level of cartel it is.

[prime spear]

Jeez, woo wee. Ms. Zhu Yuan.

[plain raptor]

It kinda feels wrong some times, I guess I'm not a soulless robot after all

[plain raptor]

it's too EZ

[prime spear]

I take offense.
-# half offense, connor's an android, not a robot 🤓

[torpid onyx]

aparently teamates can tank a 308 to the helmet yet my character can't tank a 9mm to the helmet

[hardy aurora]

Heyo

Anyone around?

[amber dock]

With?

[spare escarp]

Guy's, a friend of mine completed the ironman mode without losing officers, he did get the trophy but not the watch, (ps5) do anyone know how to fix it?

[wicked charm]

Did any of the officers quit because of stress?

[spare escarp]

I don't think because he got the trophy, but I'll ask it to him

[wicked charm]

Yeah officers CANNOT resign otherwise you won’t get the dev watch.

Officers can resign and you can still get the Achievement but not the watch.

[spare escarp]

he doesn't remember if he got any officers reassigned so i think it would be it

[wicked charm]

Yeah officers cannot resign otherwise you lose the unlock for the watch. But difficulty is not a stipulation you can unlock it on causal Ironman.

[amber dock]

Trophy but no watch=resigns
watch but no trophies=redo Port and get C grade minimum or redo entire commander mode if you were on casual

[spare escarp]

he can get it in casual so?

[amber dock]

Cosmetics yes, achievements no

[spare escarp]

ok thanks

[sharp pecan]

Yea i am ob xbox

[sharp pecan]

What's that sorry?

[torpid onyx]

me watching my teamate tank/avoid getting shot by an entire magazine of bullets from a guy across a room yet I manage to go through a doorway and a guy 30 meters from me hits me in my chrome dome in his first 3 shots

[wicked charm]

He’s advising you use the SA-58 assault rifle because of the fact 7.62 mm does extremely good damage often one tapping.

I say use whatever gun you feel like.

[torpid onyx]

genuinely i think I am the unluckiest player on earth some suspect does a 180 the second I walk into the room and just instantly killed me in 2 shots before I could even attempt to shoot more then 1 shot at him (standard)

this is with a helmet and ballistic mask and undamaged light ceramic plates

[wicked charm]

What gun was it the suspect fired?

[prime spear]

Why vro speaking so elegantly.

[wicked charm]

That’s rich coming from a clanker 😂

[prime spear]

Didnt really answer my question

[wicked charm]

I was just typing man. I explained something. It’s not like I was trying to come off as elegant.

[prime spear]

Yeah

[wicked charm]

Is the LVAR basically the Honey Badger or is the Honey Badger not a gun in the game currently?

[amber dock]

Honey badger not available for us

[wicked charm]

Gotcha I had a feeling it wasn’t in game. Despite the similar round used.

[amber dock]

Lots of guns suspects have but we don’t have access to unless you use mods

[wicked charm]

I just want to be able to make my laser blue to see it better 😂

[torpid onyx]

Im assuming the LVAR is meant to be the sig MCX LVAW

[wicked charm]

Yeah that makes the most sense

[sharp pecan]

Yea that's true

But guys whats a good load out

[toxic harness]

If dealing with a Level 3A armor AND/OR Hard mode enbaled, use anything but a 5.56

[lone cloud]

357 only stab vest one flash bang and the rest of your slots are just ammo

[toxic harness]

"It's high noon"

[lone cloud]

[shell bridge]

Is anyone still on dlc2? I always launch RoN with offline mode on steam, but I noticed that some mods, such as weapon mods, started to break. Ones with custom addons. Does steam still push some updates to the game even though when you are in offline mode?

[civic fiber]

i tried hard mode for the first time in Quickplay and it definitely is way harder than standard

[toxic harness]

No shit it's hard mode. But it can be unfair at times

[deep patio]

It might be a challenge but sometimes it's the most bullshit I have ever seen

[toxic harness]

Especially they don't react to my hits and continued to shoot me like wtf

[amber dock]

You’ll have to check what version you one

[deep patio]

Once I shot a dude like 7 rounds of 5.7x28 and my guy didn't even flinch and just lit me tf up

[shell bridge]

what's the absolute accurate way to do that?

[toxic harness]

Me when the suspect managed to shoot my sides instead of my head

[amber dock]

Just launch game and pause game and it says bottom left

[faint saddle]

Dude Judge’s legs must be held together by duct tape and prayer for all the bullets he takes to them. I understand he probably gets shot everywhere, but the body armor really makes it seem like he’s taking it all to the legs.

He could at least wear some thicker pants or something, maybe some hockey guards.

(Of course this is all fuel for my Judge Is A Robot theory.)

[storm kernel]

hey

[pale quail]

he’s definitely a robot. in commander mode you gotta send your guys to therapy. but we’re just.. good? 😤

[faint saddle]

Failed missions are just simulations in his mind. Your teammates still take stress cause they have to watch themselves get shot up and potentially die.

[sinful badger]

Hey guys, are wire traps just straight up not showing up for you when looking under a door with a mirror gun?

[pale quail]

you gotta sweep all the way to either side. it’s easier to just peek the door snd look down for a prompt.

[toxic harness]

You can use mirror gun, chemlight, NVG, or flashlight to see better

[sinful badger]

Oh I've been sweeping all right. I feel like this game is gaslighting me at times.

[torpid onyx]

the game definately has been gas lighting me with invisible traps

[toxic harness]

Are you sure that you are playing on maps where TOC mentioned traps>

[sinful badger]

Yes, Tides of March is straight up kicking my ass

[storm kernel]

hello chat

[toxic harness]

Ides, but yeah that map is interesting

[sinful badger]

I love getting shot from behind doors while disarming traps so I don't inadvertently kill civilians who thought it would be a good fucking idea to stand next to a god damn grenade.

That's 4 losses in a row

S-ranking this level sounds like pure torture

[faint saddle]

I’m convinced, one of these days, there’s gonna be tripwires in the top corners of the doorframe, and it’s gonna get me so good.

[sinful badger]

Please don't give any ideas, I'd like the game to be playable

I once got killed by a door trap on an open door frame.

I was so mad

[toxic harness]

It took few tries for me to get it

[sinful badger]

I just want to finish the level, reglardless of rank

At least wedges are useful to not get ambushed

New strat, wedge all but one entrance to the main room, and clear the smaller rooms first.

[faint saddle]

That’s how I do it if I can. Wedge all the external doors until we go in, then I’ll wedge the door behind us. No one gets in or out until the building’s clear.

[sinful badger]

Got killed again. Was securing a civie while my team was clearing the room, and somehow, no one noticed the suspect shooting at me.

That's 6 losses.

[toxic harness]

You might want to sharpen your senses since you kept going for things and not worry if there is a suspect right around the corner

Treat suspects like door traps. They could be anywhere

[faint saddle]

I’d also have your team sweep up civvies and bag evidence for you so you can keep your head on a swivel. They’re pretty dull and will NOT save your life in an ambush.

[sinful badger]

I just told my squad to open and clear with leader, and some genius on my team thought it would be a wonderful idea to opening the door we stacked on, leading me to getting shot at.

You know, before I even had a chance to enter.

[faint saddle]

Your team are essentially a squad of killer roombas. Do not look to them for sound judgement and safety.

I make them all have flashlights on their guns so I can see where they’re aiming when they start shouting at someone I haven’t spotted.

“POLICE, GET ON THE GROUND!”
Me, whirling around:”WHO?! WHERE?!”

[amber dock]

I just sit at spawn and tell them to do everything while I watch Netflix

It’s fun

[faint saddle]

Go my roombas!

[sinful badger]

Mission finally complete, Jesus Christ.

Lost an officer, but we got all the objectives.

Got an A

Alright, let's see what Mindjolt is about

[toxic harness]

Although no traps and only 2 floors, it will be interesting

[sinful badger]

I wanna be on the roof

[toxic harness]

They will be on the roof btw

[sinful badger]

I noticed. 2 down, 2 apprehended

[torpid onyx]

i DID NOT have fun with mindjolt

[sinful badger]

Yeah, it's a maze in there

Dead

[toxic harness]

Same on Commander. But Non lethal is fine

[sinful badger]

Honestly, it wouldn't be that much of a hassle to do non-lethal, considering the risk to the servers.

[torpid onyx]

the worst part is either breaching the server rooms or going along the upper hallway with glass going into the server rooms because you either A get gunned down from the people in the server room Tryna go down the hallway or B get gunned down from the hallway breaching the server rooms

[toxic harness]

I usually come from the side upstairs and work my way down

[torpid onyx]

that one hallway is the bane of my existence because no matter which option you choose to either take the server room or the upper hallway first you're gonna have like 3 guys you can barely see shooting at you

and on hard non lethal it sucked because it's impossible for reciprocate fire properly with the beanbags

[sinful badger]

I already hate this level

I need to use gas more often

[toxic harness]

That's why. Use Flash

[shell bridge]

Just checked, there's a 5 digit number on the bottom left. Do I have to use SteamDB or something similar to compare which version I have?

[storm kernel]

The peperguns is Trash

[toxic harness]

It's literally a joke to use

[amber dock]

Latest version is like 91 something

[shell bridge]

mine is 71134

[toxic harness]

It's like a spring operated Airsoft gun into a military operation

[amber dock]

Yep it’s very outdated

[shell bridge]

so feb 2025 ig?

[amber dock]

Idk exact date but it’s outdated regardless

[torpid onyx]

man i hate how stressful commander is because sometimes you can just have a guy did by pure dumb luck or because the AI just schizos I would never be able to do a commander run just because of how Inconsistant this game is

[shell bridge]

Alr, nothing updated then, my bad. Must be a mod conflict or something else.

[storm belfry]

I'm playing the evil Connor route

[sinful badger]

That's it, I hate this level profoundly

[toxic harness]

You play on Standard?

[storm kernel]

[sinful badger]

No, Hardcore

I don't know why I do this to myself

[toxic harness]

Never do hard with ai

[storm belfry]

You must learn both how to mag dump and how to hit your targets

[storm kernel]

Peperpistol is trash I need a whole mag

[storm belfry]

NON LETHAL SHIELD CALLED!

[copper cypress]

Do you all think that using a breaching shotgun and kicking in the door will only cause the suspect to shoot early?

[storm belfry]

yes

[storm kernel]

[copper cypress]

Are these two methods only applicable when there are only civilians left on the map?

[storm kernel]

Sry i have this game 1 Day

[storm belfry]

lock picking or finding an already open door, orrrr just blow down the Door with C2 and pray that you got em

Cause C2 makes everyone scared to the max

[copper cypress]

lol

[storm belfry]

ok unc

[toxic harness]

That is unless you do it 4 or 5 times

[storm belfry]

ah, so I'll do it on every door

[copper cypress]

Breaching shotguns and kicking doors seem to be more entertaining in the game and have very little practicality.

[storm belfry]

It's cool not very sneaky

[storm kernel]

[viscid nexus]

i like the breaching shotguns when you have frag grenade traps, stand back along the wall as far as you can, and let it blow - but ya the door kicking isn't tactical at all either, generally from ex tier 1 guys ive seen teach the door kick, is they turn their back to the door and kick it from an angle where you can maintain max concealment, RoN has the HERES JOHNNY method which generally gets the operator lit up in th doorway..

[storm belfry]

Watching the AI kick the door down then be turned into a pink cloud

[viscid nexus]

LOL yeah void did a horrible job of applying actual irl tactics vs what they think are real "tactics" they saw in hollywood movies tbh

[deep patio]

I love C2 just because it goes kaboom and my inner Rico loves it

But also cause suspect morale I guess

[torpid onyx]

me watching c2 blow a door open with a suspect literally hugging the door and then the suspect proceeding to get launched across the room and it tells me to call him in as dead and then he proceeds to get back up and surrender

[storm belfry]

The suspects were alive TOC!? Could've sorn they were all dead when I got here!

[torpid onyx]

your ai teamates actually do the correct door kicking techniques just not you

[deep patio]

Alive ? Who's alive ?

.50 AE rings out

No one's alive here TOC

[storm belfry]

knockout! ding ding ding!

[storm belfry]

Dead Or Alive they said, Quiet or Loud they said

[torpid onyx]

also what does teamate moral even door in commander mode

and why are my teamates even getting depressed when literally none of them have died and we've saved every civilian

[storm belfry]

If they get enough trauma they'll leave

[storm belfry]

They feel remorseful for killing suspects

[toxic harness]

TOC to Entry; y'all were a mistake when we are out here saving lives and bring justice. NOT JUST KILLING THEM!

[torpid onyx]

do they eventually get less stressed if you take them off the team for a while

Ive run like 4 missions with some guys and they don't even have their trait yet and j already have to sub them off because they're stressed

[storm belfry]

"REMEMBER OUR MISSION, we ARREST and SECURE, we DON'T make Widows and Orphans!"

[prime spear]

L, re-start and go deviant.

[torpid onyx]

we make widows and orphans because we don't want our family's to become widows and orphans

[storm belfry]

It's man vs machine, and I'm not dying to a T-180

[torpid onyx]

Ive manages to get to Sullivan's slope without any casualties yet and I'm praying I don't get any especially not from any traps

[deep patio]

I erase family trees for the good of Los Sueños but TOC says I'm misusing deadly force

[prime spear]

Remember kids: Internal Affairs is afraid of you.

[viscid nexus]

lol true...better not overwhelm them with game fixes though, they clearly are knee deep in it already lol...

[deep patio]

Even Internal Affairs fears 7.62x51mm

[deep patio]

Remorse ? What's that ? I killed over 600 suspects by my own hands

And I'll do it again

[storm belfry]

I used to be non lethal

I got everything S ranked.

Now it's Kill or be Killed

[torpid onyx]

I got 1 tapped on lethal obsession

mfw

[storm belfry]

They be geeking

[torpid onyx]

aparently somehow 2 of my teammates died by virtue of me dying how fun

and they specifically got my paramedic

I'm quitting commander this game isn't good/consistant enough to make a good "commander" mode

quick play my beloved

I had my team flash a room exept the guy must have been hiding behind a 2x4 and didn't get blinded by the flash (best mechanic in the game) and I walked in and got capped in the head by a pistol caliber despite my undamaged armour and helmet and ballsitic mask

[prime spear]

they on red ice

[torpid onyx]

they need to make the flash grenades less reliant on absolute LOS because too many times I'll have a guy avoid getting stunned because they hit behind like an indoor lamp post or like a 2x4 and that's enough to stop a flash grenades despite the super loud bang and concussing blast

[storm kernel]

[torpid onyx]

also just give me back my CS gas they completely broke it to where it doesn't work anymore and I want to use it except it legitimately has no effect anymore

[deep patio]

Lethal obsession is comical

Like fym I got shot immediately

[torpid onyx]

yeah one time I loaded up on lethal obsession and got shot in my chrome dome the first 5 seconds I spawned

it's such a horrible map to deal with despite having 3 suspects because flash grenades essentially are useless in the house because of all the Junk that "blocks line of sight" like the supporting 2x4s and the cages and miscellaneous crap lying around

[tame osprey]

Void: adds cs gas rotary grenade launcher

Also Void: breaks cs gas making the brand new launcher useless

[deep patio]

Just give me back my CS GAS ALREADY I WANNA GAS EVERY MAP I STEP FOOT INTO DUDE 💀

If it ain't flooded with CS Gas it ain't right

[torpid onyx]

the flash grenades rotary launcher is the most OP thing in the game is you just take like 12 flash nades+the 6 in the chamber

then you can just spam them around corners or on instinct

[tame osprey]

I used to gas literally everything. I'd give the AI swat full inventories of CS gas and gas literally every room

[torpid onyx]

the gas should be able to like flush out an entire apartment yet now you can barely get a guy to react to 5 canisters that are below his feet

[tame osprey]

That's my go to S rank strategy. NPCs tend to surrender when they take a flashbang to the face.

[torpid onyx]

I random pubs stack I was in managed to get a 150 second hard S rank hunger strike by just using the rotary launcher

they just ran in shouting and shot it in any direction they heard a voice

[tulip rampart]

that's the only hard S tier mission i have under my belt, haha

[torpid onyx]

the gas station is literally so easy to hard S rank

same with the school shooter map (just stay quiet)

and im sure with enough restart RNG you can get a hard S rank on lethal obsession since it's 3 guys

[tulip rampart]

lethal obsession took me a while 💀

i did it solo and it took like 5 restarts bc i fucking died to invisible bush boi suspect

[torpid onyx]

the most annoying thing about lethal obsession is just how like every door is trapped

[storm kernel]

[deep patio]

Me when it was a preorder exclusive/deluxe edition for console

[deep patio]

I'm just stuck with the non op bullshit

[tulip rampart]

me too 🙁

i orgasm whenever someone with the rotary launcher joins my lobby

[deep patio]

This is where I'd put my rotary launcher

IF I HAD ONE

[tulip rampart]

sigh

[buoyant pecan]

Need more missions…

And guns

And cosmetics

[deep patio]

I demand an airport mission

[peak badger]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[storm kernel]

Weapons skins

[languid creek]

Desperately

But tbh adding those 3 things wouldn’t really fix anything it would just buy more time. Eventually we’d be bored of the new maps guns and clothes.

They gotta find a way to keep it interesting or fresh. Allow AI squad mates to fill in if you’re only playing with 2 real people or something. More variations of missions for sure. It’s a good game but the spark is gone. Only going back for my dopamine hit of clearing the map.

They’re happy to announce 3 million console copies sold but as of now we have only 3 confirmed maps that will come in 2026

[buoyant pecan]

Yus
Gimme wood furniture shotgun pls

Balaclavas that can be equipped outside of multiplayer would be cool

[languid creek]

Balaclavas that don’t require me to nerf myself by not having head protection would be cool too

[buoyant pecan]

And multiple styles of balaclavas, including having it partially pulled up kinda like how Ace from R6 wears his

1 hole, 2, 3 etc too and different colors and patterns like black, olive, navy, woodland camo, urban camo, etc.

[storm belfry]

Fuck everything else, I want my level 3 leg armor so I can avoid my legs disappearing every mission

Every MISSION I losse MY LEGS

[storm kernel]

Every mission 200ms

[torpid onyx]

I wish that I actually took damage to body parts and didn't just die instantly from some headshot after 3 bullets

it feels like I used to actually take damage now I just don't get the opportunity to tank any damage Ill just die (despite carrying the same armour)

[storm belfry]

To blow off steam I shall genocide everyone valley of the dolls

[winter tusk]

sweet liberty MY LEGS. also, have u tried walking diagonally

[storm belfry]

Nah, I walk via handstands and shoot with my feet

[winter tusk]

drop the link to that mod rn

[storm belfry]

No, you misunderstood, I do that irl.

[lone cloud]

[rotund cypress]

That’s a dated technique btw

Real CAG operators do something called Zoro Axis Relock

You have a gun in each hand and a third one in your mouth to maximize your close range firepower

I know this because my daddy works for Delta Force and he told me so

[candid moss]

Centre axis relock is what John Wick does with his shooting that makes it look cool af

I mean technically Keanu Reeves

[rotund cypress]

Yeah but John Wick isn’t real

This is, trust me

[toxic harness]

When does equipping a balaclava required head protection to be removed?

You can just use those Echo characters

[rotund cypress]

I think just to see it he means

[languid creek]

The ones that you can’t use without supporter edition?

[rotund cypress]

There’s balaclavas for supporter edition?

[languid creek]

Idk lol I still haven’t gotten it to appear, if it does it’s covered by the face mask anyway

Anytime I see someone with one they don’t have a helmet or anything

[toxic harness]

Wait so supporter edition grants the balaclava?

[languid creek]

Idk yall gotta ask someone who knows I could just be spreading misinfo lol

[rotund cypress]

I thought supporter edition just gave you the shotgun, the shield, and a gas mask

[amber dock]

No?

[toxic harness]

I'm confused. I only know those Echo characters that have them

[amber dock]

Only content SE owners get is a shotgun skin for the B1013,a skin for the G19 and one rifle that has terrible stats all around,GPNVGS with tan caps instead of all black,FISA outfit clothing and gas masks with different coloured visors

[toxic harness]

Wait shotgun skin and G19 skin?!

[amber dock]

Balaclavas only exist in multiplayer at the moment and is available for everyone.

[rotund cypress]

I swear there’s a shield skin too, no?

[amber dock]

No the rescue shield does not exist yall have it too.

[toxic harness]

So there were gun skins but only exclusive to Supporters and it's only few skins

[amber dock]

The ballistic shield and rescue shield everyone has

[toxic harness]

Rescue shield? How?

[rotund cypress]

I don’t have the rescue shield

Unless I’m just blind

[amber dock]

Yall don’t? Oh but it’s terrible anyway

It’s slightly skinner on the sides

[toxic harness]

But how do you change it?

[rotund cypress]

They’re just separate items

[cursive minnow]

All supporter edition "skins" are separate items.

[amber dock]

It’s in tactical slots just like ballistic shield

The rifle and rescue shield are both very bad so

[toxic harness]

How bad?

[amber dock]

Skins for the shotgun and G19 are just visual

I mean it’s a gun end of the day but it performs about same as like the SR16 or whatever

I honestly don’t remember last time I used it. Probs was during early access

[toxic harness]

So if the Rescue Shield is separate and available for everyone, thay is a lie

Cuz I never seen it at all

[amber dock]

Cause it isn’t

Cause I was wrong on my part

[toxic harness]

Me when I lie but I didn't know

[amber dock]

It’s for SE only but once again it’s terrible

[jolly verge]

It's literally pay to win btw

[toxic harness]

What does it look like?

[amber dock]

Just Google it

[jolly verge]

5% speed penalty on rescue shield vs 10% on default one

[tulip rampart]

holy shit, i just beat hide and seek on hard in 2 tries

[amber dock]

I mean tbh I have not seen a single supporter use that shield

That’s how bad it is

And frankly a 5% diff is so slim that majority would not notice nor care. Cause you wouldn’t be able to actually get to a point where that would make a diff. So calling it P2W is bit of a stretch

[jolly verge]

I use it, both in my hands and on my back

[amber dock]

Old renders of it was supposed to have FBI text on it but that got scrapped very quickly and quietly without ever a concert explanation why

And coyote variant of the HRT uniform

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-8493382194019209370

[amber dock]

Goofy aah HRT

[frail pier]

Skill issue

[amber dock]

Oh wait I forgot you got SE from tournament

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[frail pier]

Correct

Imagine paying for supporter edition

[amber dock]

You paid for a supporter edition mousepad second hand

[frail pier]

Correct

And I'll attempt to sell it for more (maybe)

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-gif-10054675685696503316

[frail pier]

It's unused

Nice bot blocking that word

[amber dock]

You really wanna believe that unused thing?

[frail pier]

You can tell lmao

[frail pier]

Everything's got a price

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

https://ebay.us/m/Mx6mho 170$

Ouchie

[frail pier]

$400

[viscid nexus]

i paid for a used al qaeda diaper weve all been there dawg

[frail pier]

Ban Patrick for advertising

Breaking Void rules... classic

[fading anvil]

I’m sure somebody goofy out there will buy it. 😎

[toxic harness]

WHAT

[amber dock]

What what

[toxic harness]

SE from a tournament

[amber dock]

Uh yeah

[toxic harness]

Matter of fact, what does the people do in the tournament

[amber dock]

Hustler won the speedrunning tournament that was hosted some months ago

And top 1 prize was money and supporter edition if user didn’t have it already

[frail pier]

Probably

Or we make it to where only 999 exist

[fading anvil]

America is full of people that like to buy dumb shit, resell all your dumb shit so the people can buy it. And when your done buying or selling dumb shit give it to the rich elite. 🫡 🇺🇸

[frail pier]

God bless America

[spark pecan]

Any news on new patch?

[potent elk]

trying to beat the game on ironman mode hard, i havent made it past twisted nerve after 6 runs 😭

[stone bay]

Does any1 know why the achievement "Im too old for this" is sitting at 94% for me? But I completed all the missions in hard

[languid creek]

Everytime I open the discord someone else is complaining about this achievement not tracking

[stone bay]

its too glitchy

[lone cloud]

did you complete every main objective on every mission and achieve a grade of c or higher?

[stone bay]

yea

[lone cloud]

weird

worked fine for my friends and I when we did it (back when the update dropped)

[stone bay]

🐠

imma just redo the ones with C rank ig

[languid creek]

You’ll do them again and still won’t have it 🥀

[stone bay]

[deep patio]

Really on Neon Tomb the ringing from the phones is so loud

It's all you can hear and it's so demoralizing too

[toxic harness]

For me I have issues with it for Getting Sea Legs and House to Home

[deep patio]

I practiced the mission for my iron man run and boy is that map just haunting

It's dark, close quarters and there's so much noises, so many lights

Everything is disorienting in there

[languid creek]

Priority #1 when I play neon tomb is shutting that music off it’s so nice without it

[toxic harness]

But it goes hard with it

[stone bay]

Its scarier without music

[deep patio]

I would rather keep the deafening music rather than those haunting ring tones

[deep patio]

I wouldn't call it scary just haunting and demoralizing

[toxic harness]

Also isn't there like it's own music that plays if there is no DJ music?

[stone bay]

ehhh kind of yea

[deep patio]

I listened to it on Spotify and boy does it go hard

[toxic harness]

Idk if it's still in the game

[toxic harness]

I wish it's on Apple Music

[spiral tundra]

Neon is fun when you become the terrorists as I found out

[stone bay]

I had to use GPNVGS💔

[toxic harness]

Neon Tomb's combat music goes so hard

[amber dock]

Console?

[stone bay]

Xbox

[amber dock]

RIP can’t help you then with my trick

[toxic harness]

But it def has a weird tone from an eerie edm into intense ost

[stone bay]

its all g ig im just gonna redo all of them again

[toxic harness]

Try Hard S ranking it

[stone bay]

I did, is just a bit too boring

I stopped at sins of the feather

[amber dock]

You are first person I’ve met that is willing to redo maps, everyone else I help refuse to redo it

[stone bay]

im just doing it for achievement hunt tbh lol, if it wasn't cuz of the achievement. I wouldn't do it🐠

[storm belfry]

I'm not the only person to rerun maps like 5 times

[civic mica]

i do it for fun

[storm belfry]

real

[deep patio]

FUCKING FINALLY I got an s rank on VotD

Even though it's not hard difficulty 💀

But still let's fucking goooooo

[tight hawk]

how do i do the "kill me" command

[amber dock]

kill a restrained civ or one of your team guys

[tight hawk]

i just did and i insta died

[amber dock]

That's intentional

[magic nexus]

Oh yeah. Happened once to me

I shot and killed a cuffed suspect and i died immediately

[tight hawk]

but i didnt get the achievement

[amber dock]

Once you kill a retrained civ or one of your team they get god mode

[magic nexus]

Because you have to give the order

[amber dock]

Cause you have to issue the command

[tight hawk]

well how if im insta dead

[magic nexus]

Make your team hold

[tight hawk]

i did

[magic nexus]

Go on the gas station

[tight hawk]

i shot the homeless guy in the head and just insta died

[magic nexus]

And go inside and kill a civilian. Then should give you the order

[amber dock]

Either give them pepperball guns or hold them at spawn and go to otherside of map with one tied up civ and then issue command

[tight hawk]

now my ron needs to load again for 5 minutes

[magic nexus]

Bros pc is trash

[tight hawk]

not it worked thanks

[tight hawk]

yeah

[tidal holly]

Should I use buckshot or slug

[desert island]

buck

if u use slug just use a rifle

[heady wadi]

Anyone else enjoy using the laser far more than the actual sight?

[cunning saffron]

Why can't any of my squad scan a room?

[astral ermine]

Can we have 1 or 2 voice chat for "before console release" players? I know there's a few of us, and it'd help us get together. I do not wish to play the patched version until what we complained about is fixed. As a pre-order customer, I think that 1 US, 1 EU and such would not be too much asking. We backed up the game when it was very expensive, or might just have people who prefer the old version.

[cunning saffron]

Like it's grayed out no matter what I do

[tribal tapir]

Yeah I use laser + canted 90% of the time

[long onyx]

Yo, yesterday I was playing on the hospital and I just got into a shootout with someone. In the middle of the fight a civ goes down and my screen pulses a deep red tint for a few seconds(not from damage) Anyone know what happened?

[hazy carbon]

likely a bug if you didn't take damage, the deep red effect is reserved for suspects headshotting you iirc

[long onyx]

Got it, yeah it's had my mind spinning for the last day wondering what happened

[cunning saffron]

anyone know if this is a bug or not?

[hazy carbon]

i still think its bullshit that you can survive headshots but i guess some headshots are also survivable

[long onyx]

Fair

[cunning saffron]

or does scanning need a perk?

[shy tulip]

Scanning is not a perk and it is probably context sensitive, controls are complicated like that.

[spiral tundra]

Just tell them to pie it

[spring hearth]

I never in the time while playing ron the vally of dolls is much harder than the post office (even if it’s on standard I’m getting dropped then it might just be skill issue ngl)

[storm belfry]

It is

Both are hard but Valley has a higher learning curve

[spring hearth]

I see

[storm belfry]

Greased palms is just going outside and working from the back to the front usually

[spring hearth]

Like bro I spent a whole hour trying to find the dude only to find out when I went underground got shot blank by him

[deep patio]

I usually do front office, side loading bay, warehouse right side, Side office then rear loading bay, then upper office

Something like that

[storm belfry]

I usually front dies

[spring hearth]

I genuinely started to think I should put it on casual but I’m determined to beat it on standard

[civic mica]

wait till you try hard mode

[spring hearth]

Ik it gonna be hella hard

[spring hearth]

?

[civic mica]

eh

[dim pendant]

outfit presets dont work? also how tf do i get the achievement for dying to a civillian

[civic mica]

you die to a civilian

i think

[deep sentinel]

Minor brain damage never stopped anyone from finishing what they came to do... probably

[deep sentinel]

Did the wife on Valley Of The Dolls smack the shit outta you?

[dim pendant]

no? im just trying to understand what possible situation that'd happen in

[civic mica]

oh yeah the one in the bathroom

[deep sentinel]

Usually thats how you get it, I think there's a couple other civvies that can throw hands too

Pretty sure some of the people on Twisted Nerve like to throw hands

[hazy carbon]

probably get punched by mrs voll on low hp

thats the only civ that regularly attacks me

[deep sentinel]

There's a few others too

But yeah thats how most people get that achievement

[civic mica]

imagine punching a swat officer holding a big ass rifle

[winter tusk]

yea some sucker did that last night. his arms are not there anymore

i thought he had a knife bro and then it said civilian killed

[civic mica]

your basically wishing for death if you punch one in real life

so dumb😑

[tulip rampart]

love it when civilians reach for a phone or something

[winter tusk]

i got punched

i was stunned so i obviously thought he had a knife

oh btw. if u guys have ever seen george brixley put himself in the forever box. let me know

[tulip rampart]

void adding the "be killed by a civilian" achievement:

[quasi coral]

I got punched by a methhead at critical hp

And immediately died

Which, is how I learned about the achievement, honestly, embarrassing

If I wasn't in multiplayer with a guy to avenge me peacefully I would've came back with an SA-58

[digital finch]

Can suspects and civvies just outright glitch up and disappear off the map? I’ve had my fair share of hunts for the last person but I’ve hit every square inch of the Voll map and the dude is nowhere to be found, every single room is open and clear, did he just despawn or something?

[civic mica]

maybe that happens to me aswell

maybe wedge all exits

and clear every room

spam the yell

[digital finch]

Lmao and I found him, this mf must’ve been roaming constantly behind me cus I swear I did 5 laps around this map, doubled back and found him near spawn

Just for that shit I’m executing all remaining civvies

[azure charm]

Is point-blank shotgun hitreg, at least as a prototype or stub in the game code, ready or not in Ready or Not? 🙂

[digital finch]

Dude my shit is so glitchy tonight, once again a suspect that’s just completely disappeared on elephant, I don’t even think he’s in the playable map area cus he’s not executing anyone, I can hear his voice but nowhere to be found, why is this shit happening so much?

4th mission tonight where someone has glitched and disappeared off the map unable to be found or secured, shits ridiculous. Need to stop posting bullshit about PAX and fix the goddamn game

[dense wedge]

How are you guys s ranking valley of the dolls? my guys always start dieing in any open area

[toxic harness]

Suspects with nut allergy when I throw a flashbang at their head

[versed jasper]

everytime i load into a map my sensitivity reacts as if it's set to 1 instead of .14 but then i check the setting and it's set to .14

[tidal holly]

Just shot a suspect point blank with a shotgun and he didn't react

He killed me too

[azure charm]

Enemy damage reactions will be available in the PS6 "Ultra-Cut-Censored-Deluxe-Plus" Edition of the game.

Jokes aside, I have noticed that once a suspect starts an attack animation it becomes effectively uninterruptible - you can shoot them point-blank and they will keep going until the firing cycle ends. Either that is how it is designed, or I have run into a lot of coincidences.

[primal plank]

Does anyone happen to know how many points are required to S Rank Relapse? I tried many times and I thought I had it tonight. No friendly fire, arrested everyone, all non-lethal.

[magic nexus]

You gotta get everything

[versed jasper]

soft and main objectives

[magic nexus]

All the evidence everyone

Everything mate

[primal plank]

I didn't soft complete though. I found the last gun and it ended the mission for me.

3890 Points

[tidal holly]

Arrest everyone. No incapacitated suspects

[primal plank]

Yep, I did. Its not a complaint I am just confused.

[tidal holly]

Unless u got any penalties idk

[primal plank]

I can't post the screenshot, but it doesn't say anything like friendly fire. I guess I'll just try it again.

[long dome]

All the points.

The maximum shifts per how many civis, suspects and evidence there is in each run. Since all that is being randomized so your question has no one simple answer.

[storm kernel]

when GOLD Skins

[toxic harness]

• Hard S every mission
• Get 25 Kills
• Get 15 Headshots
• Secure B+ Rank 5 times

[storm kernel]

[outer verge]

Is there a reason I can't plant c2 on any doors?

[shy tulip]

Look higher

[outer verge]

I mean I tried that but I used to be able to just look straight at the handle then plant but now I just don't get the prompt

[shy tulip]

It's higher now, dunno if it is intentional or not

[outer verge]

Got it, I'll try that next time

[chilly thorn]

So uhh any news on that new patch:)

[storm kernel]

When Weapons DLC AK47

[torpid onyx]

when will we get 6mm ARC and 5.45 rifles

[toxic harness]

I need my .50 BMG and .30-30

[torpid onyx]

mmm 30 30 lever action

[toxic harness]

I must use M1 Garand to express true freedom to Los Locos

Finna show Romanians why you should never pickpocket Americans out of our innocence

[slim moss]

I think an Uzi would be fun to play with

[toxic harness]

I wanna use the Calico and Bizon together

[storm kernel]

When ACWR DLC

When M416

[toxic harness]

Which achievement icon is the best as a pfp?

Also if I remember correctly...

• The Decaying City represents an attack on another country, which leads to a terrorist group attack (excluding Elephant)
• Left Behind represents the decline of American support where people make their own groups and terrorizes the people for their own benefit
• The Exploited represents Child Exploitation
• The Abducted represents an attack against the Cartel's dirty work
• The War represents "War on Drugs", but a beginning story of "The Abducted"

[storm kernel]

[toxic harness]

Elephant was originally where the shooters attacked Arab students cuz of the Hand, yet it would make the shooters justifying their wrong doings

So now Elephant is more of their own thing where those heavily armed students are so afraid of themselves that they took it into their own hands

Which it's like most of the school shooter's motives sadly as they felt like they are not safe in school so they attack to feel safe, while endangering everyone else.

Which this also happened with Elephant

Unless they retcon Elephant to fit into the "The Decaying City" and connection with The Hand

Otherwise Elephant is just RoN wanted to feature the mission as a homage to the movie and the infamous story

[storm kernel]

When Minigun Update

[toxic harness]

I wanna operate a helicopter as O scan for suspects

[faint saddle]

Any tips or guide for using the tactical shield? I feel like I still get shot plenty when using it. Does it have an effective angle, should I crouch while using it?

[humble mauve]

I personally believe it was too because in one of the early versions of hospital (it may even still be in the game) the voice lines from the hand members are more aggressive and antagonistic about the person they are trying to find. I don’t remember exact lines but they were along the lines of finding “the boy that did it” which doesn’t really fit with finding their leader

[quasi coral]

Face the target, crouch walking will decrease your chances of getting hit but will make you prone to getting flanked or out maneuvered

Fully crouching is not recommended unless you are playing multiplayer with more efficient communications and should only be done as a defensive measure.

Offensively, push the target, just push them with your handgun.

If you have no weapons with the ballistic shield, why are you even using it? Lol

[torpid onyx]

wait until bro sees what the ga416 is
also m416 is the fictionalised name for hk416

though of course the ga416 is the 10 inch SBR varient depicted ingame not any longer barrel depictions and it's not a 1 to 1 copy of all the varients of hk416

[quasi coral]

Fucking hell

I played 3 letter triad really well, but the AI being dumb as hell all died in a span of 5 minutes

Guy shooting behind em and they focus on the guy surrendering

And they barely cover each others backs anymore

[torpid onyx]

the crouching perspective is super deceptive on your perspective but if you check your teammates helmet you can see crouch walming essentially covers most of your legs exept for like the bottom of your shins and crouching covers essentially your whole body and plus if you don't wanna engage don't bother holding out your pistol arm because that will get shot and also there's currently a "sorta" bug where you're able to put yourself in low ready to get the movement speed boost but still hold your pistol out while using the shield so you're a able to sprint super fast if you need to close a gap

[storm kernel]

[torpid onyx]

or you can put yourself in low ready without your pistol out just to walk faster (its no differant to not being in low ready)

[surreal escarp]

Ai teammates are dumb asf my teammate walked into a room that wasn't clear just to cuff 1 guy and the officer died.

[quasi coral]

EXACTLY

They just have the wrong priorities

[surreal escarp]

Or I go to order a civ to move somewhere safe to cuff but my teammate says fuck it and walks into danger just to cuff a civ...

[quasi coral]

Exactly, like jeez man

I think they do have code to cuff civis if the suspect doesn't have a line of sight

But it's sometimes inaccurate

[surreal escarp]

Very

[storm kernel]

Where can I display the ping on the PS5

[robust apex]

when hotfix for AI swat team?

[storm kernel]

When playable female character?

[noble pasture]

Most likely never

Women in swat are extremely rare

[storm kernel]

[noble pasture]

Not outright banned

Just not something women want in police

Maybe a female swat officer in 200

[storm kernel]

Where can I see my ping and FPS in-game (Ps5 version)?

[copper cypress]

Has anyone successfully used TRPL to get the suspect to surrender in the lethal Obsession?

[noble pasture]

The what now? Describe it

[copper cypress]

I just managed to get the suspect to surrender after using nine rounds in level 2. I find it hard to imagine that in a level like this where the suspect's initial pressure meter is full from the start, I would still be unable to subdue the suspect even after using three magazines.

I'm trying to do an experiment lol

[dire horizon]

Pepperball pistol

[copper cypress]

Yeah

[noble pasture]

Land all 6 pepper balls and pray

[torpid onyx]

simple, don't use the trpl is sucks balls

[copper cypress]

[torpid onyx]

take beanbags and/or a taser

[copper cypress]

All right

[torpid onyx]

or atlesst the pepperball rifle which has like 25 rounds a mag instead (but pepperball isn't as good as beanbags and is useless on hard mode)

it's way to easy for a suspect to just resist or walk away and fortify themsevles using pepperball

[copper cypress]

Hopefully, the developers will improve the effect of TRPL on suspect morale in the next patch.

[toxic harness]

Pepperball (that shares properties of CS Gas) vs. Lethal Obsession folks (which they have gas mask to counter CS gas)

[copper cypress]

Otherwise, this weapon is basically redundant.

[jade sparrow]

Me trying to figure out which of the ~50 mods I have installed is secretly adding wire traps to every single map of the game (most of them are cosmetic mods but it may as well be one of them cause I don’t remember ever installing mods that add wire traps to the game and I’ve since looked at all the mod descriptions for non-cosmetic mods and none of them did add wire traps to the game)

[torpid onyx]

oh yeah I forgot that like most of them have masks too

[toxic harness]

Gerard does not have a gas mask, but his buddies do

[copper cypress]

Can still be stunned, but the chance is unknown.

[jade sparrow]

Seeing them in Carriers of the Vine and even Dorms I thought it could be that they added tripwires to the game, but when I died to one on Twisted Nerve that’s when I realized it couldn’t be official and it happened cause of mods

Does Twisted Nerve have tripwires in hard difficulty?

[toxic harness]

No

[jade sparrow]

Yep so now I have to look mod for mod to see which does it

And I’m afraid it could be a cosmetic mod actually cause all the other mods I have don’t seem to do that

[toxic harness]

Run Safe Mode if you can't find it

[jade sparrow]

No console on safe mode :(

[toxic harness]

How the fuck you got mods on console?

[jade sparrow]

The command console

[toxic harness]

[jade sparrow]

To for example play maps I haven’t unlocked yet on Commander mode

It’s not console as in Xbox or PlayStation

I meant it as in terminal where you can input game commands and shit

[toxic harness]

[jade sparrow]

That type of console

That one mod that’s like the third or fourth most popular nexus mods where you can press M to quick start a mission

That mod
You know that mod?

[serene light]

It'd be an AI mod that'd put traps on twisted nerve.

actually wait

were you on hard difficulty

[jade sparrow]

Yup

But I’ve been told that map doesn’t have them on hard either

[toxic harness]

Yeah I can def tell you that there are no traps in Twisted Nerve

[serene light]

iill go check to confirm

Ok yeah no there is no traps on twisted nerve regardless of difficulty. You must have an ai mod of some sort prob or a gameplay overhaul mod that also touches ai.

[jade sparrow]

Yeah cause it added few tripwires but I think on every map

Like very very few, to the point it may happen that hospital has no wire in all of its doors

It’s just bad that I have to look and find the mod that does it

[toxic harness]

I only know:

• Rust Belt
• Elephant

Gets traps on Hard difficulty only

[amber dock]

Hard mode simply added traps to Rust belt,Elephant and Sins of the father now gets lethal traps too as opposed to just flashbang traps.

So current list of maps with traps on hard is
Lethal obsession
Ides of march
Rust belt
Elephant
Sins of the father

Normal difficulty is just
Lethal obsession
Ides or march
Sins of the father (flashbang only trap)

Casual difficulty no maps have traps

[gusty horizon]

Greased palms has to be the most bs map

[versed jasper]

im never getting an S on that mission again

[gusty horizon]

I’m actually going to celebrate when I clear this god damn level

[gusty horizon]

AGAIN?

[versed jasper]

yeah i got it before difficulty's came out and now im debating doing it on hard mode

[gusty horizon]

Ain’t on way you can say fuck

[versed jasper]

damn

[gusty horizon]

But I can’t say ho with the E on the end

What is that

[floral gorge]

daddy judge is so handsome...

[toxic harness]

It's only good if people knew what they're doing

[gusty horizon]

I do lol I have every footpath mapped out

BUT I JUST HAD THE DAMN BEAN BAG GUN JAM

[toxic harness]

Gun jammed? More like you didn't reload

[torpid onyx]

bruh I was just walking down the car park of the Mexican restaurant from the front spawn and some guy went running from the van to the kitchen and while sprinting managed to shoot sideways and hit me in the head from like 30 meters

and he had NO CLUE I was even there either I made no noise and was walking over

[gusty horizon]

Nope

Cause I pressed the trigger again and it fired but I died

I have died 33 times in actually going to lose it

[versed jasper]

guns can jam?

[gusty horizon]

It seems so

[torpid onyx]

you probabaly ran out of ammo

[toxic harness]

If someone told me that pepperball is effective for Hard S ranks, I'm quickly gonna kick them out

[gusty horizon]

Pressed the trigger once nothing pressed it again it fires

[torpid onyx]

(standard btw)

[gusty horizon]

Pepper ball seems really inconsistent

Like some times it doesn’t gas them some times it does

I must be doing it wrong

[torpid onyx]

pepperball doesn't work in hard

[versed jasper]

i just use beanbag, wearing the gas mak was too annoying for me

[floral gorge]

use mg338

best less-than-lethal-lethal firearm

[gusty horizon]

Not on hard

I’m failing the standard greased palms

Am I hiding the wrong armour or smth

Heavy with ceramic

[toxic harness]

Ceramic armor can protect more calibers than steel, but Steel has more Armor HP and you could just run Front Only Steel + Ballistic Shield for back cover

[midnight turtle]

So, to those of you that didn't buy the deluxe edition, how are we expected to complete greased palms on hard, with all objectives?

[gusty horizon]

Would I not run heavy full steel?

[toxic harness]

If you want absolute protection and want something other than shield, go ahead.

But I would run Shield with Front Only Steel. Otherwise I go Steel (Hard) or Ceramic (Standard) + Mirror Gun

[torpid onyx]

bruh yesterday I ran like 10 attempts on mindjolt and couldn't get it S ranked and now today boom 1st try

the RNG is strong

atleast I didn't get 1 tapped and plus I had ZERO suspects in the server room maze or along the glass walkway overlooking it

and then ends of the earth I just walk thru without even needing my teamates or any of my equipment exept my beanbag shotgun and clear it in 3 minutes

greased palms

[tulip rampart]

i S ranked greased palms on standard, only thing left is just clear it on hard. idgaf about S rank anymore i just need to get it done for the "The World" achievement

S-tiering this game gave me PTSD

and im not even finished, because the only one i havent S ranked is 3 Letter Triad, which is literally impossible to S-tier

[copper cypress]

Did anyone stop using the .357 JHP because of the .50 AE JHP?

[stoic thistle]

It's possible, just very painful.

[tulip rampart]

i need a gun that can fire unlimited flashes, no reload necessary, at 5000 RPM

sure it might break my playstation but itll be worth it

[hardy marlin]

is the lvar still good?

[deep patio]

Pick whatever the hell you want

[torpid onyx]

all 223/300blk/7.62x39 rifles are a much of a muchness

the only substantial differance in them all are the 308s since those usually 1 tap

[hardy marlin]

sa58 it is

[spiral tundra]

.308 and .300 are the same thing fyi

[hardy marlin]

well .308 is .008 inches wider in diameter

[torpid onyx]

300blk and 308 Winchester (7.62x51 NATO) are NOT the same caliber
they're the same diameter but the actual case and exact bullet shape and amount of powder etc is completely differant

[spiral tundra]

Do they have difference in game