👮ron-discussion

[quasi coral]

Spoken like a true American

[charred birch]

I mean I once ran Hide and Seek on hard with only two JHP mags on my Mk18

[spiral tundra]

Which
I bring 3 AP mags and only ever use 1-1.5 of them

[charred birch]

If i brought AP two mags might not have been enough honestly

[cobalt lotus]

C2 didn't work...

Guess it wasn't close enough

[quasi coral]

Shit whattt? I always bring 5

[cobalt lotus]

It was about 5 feet away from the guy though, so I'm not sure

[quasi coral]

Aw damn, ya you needa be close so they get "safely bumped onto the ground"

[charred birch]

You rarely and i mean RARELY need more than 3 mags if you’re using ARs

[quasi coral]

You should restart the mission

[charred birch]

5 mags is only useful for SMGs i would say

[cobalt lotus]

Beanbagged him in the head, turned an S into a C 😢

[quasi coral]

I'll be damn honest

[spiral tundra]

I might just bring 2 mags of each gun icl

I save so much ammo there’s no point

[quasi coral]

I always end up on 1.3 mags left on any missions above The Spider

[charred birch]

I mean you might be using full auto on ARs but i find it really unnecessary 80% of the time

[charred birch]

Really ? 😭

[quasi coral]

😭😭

I'm sorry gang I don't bring no non lethals so I just go full auto at the slight chance they'll give up because of surpression

[charred birch]

I mean honestly it’s very easy to mag dump when you recently got the game i can’t even blame you and there’s nothing wrong with MORE mags if it works for you

[spiral tundra]

Like hide and seek
I use max 2 mags usually

[charred birch]

Suppression actually makes their stress level go up which makes them less likely to surrender 😭😭😭

[spiral tundra]

But I’ve been practising aim a lot with the magnum alone recently

[quasi coral]

I've literally S ranked Hide and Seek trust me I know dashit

[charred birch]

Cheers

[quasi coral]

WHAT?? Noo.. How can they be stressed if 60% of the rounds have already went in them?!

[spiral tundra]

I got one hard S left to do then it’s over

[quasi coral]

Ya I'm never touching a pepperball ever again

[quasi coral]

Which mision?

[spiral tundra]

WHY use a Pepperball

[quasi coral]

I kept blowing their heads off so

[spiral tundra]

3 letter triad

[quasi coral]

And also because I find shotguns bad to use

[spiral tundra]

I’ve got it on standard, and I’ve done sleeper agent
Just no hard S

[charred birch]

Pepperballs always shit the bed and decide not to work, you’re better off with the beanbag once you learn to be accurate with it 😭😭😭

[quasi coral]

(Just because I hate shotguns)

[quasi coral]

I'm praying for your sanity my man

[spiral tundra]

You gotta get used to aiming below where you normally would

[charred birch]

Aw shucks i love using shotguns

[quasi coral]

Maen lem,me tell ya sum

[spiral tundra]

It’s so annoying how my from house to home achievement is bugged

I just wanna get 100% completion and a bugged achievement

[quasi coral]

I LIKE TO BE TACTICAL!!! And shotguns are NOT tactical

Well they are but not tactical enough

[spiral tundra]

Time do to my casual Ironman run for the dev ruined watch

[charred birch]

Is dumping a whole 7.62x51 mag into the granny in Ends of the Earth tactical though ? /s

[quasi coral]

I've gotten it, honestly looks ugly on my wrist

I'ma just continue using the Shock Watch

[spiral tundra]

I’m doing it for the dress to impress achievement

[charred birch]

Hey you lost me on tactical as soon as you sent me into a hospital with dozens of terrorists with 4 teammates

[quasi coral]

VERY it's literally cqb!!!

[spiral tundra]

Shotguns are very rarely used by swat or sof unless for breaching cuz the risk

[quasi coral]

Ah, achievements and allat

[quasi coral]

That missions awfully easy honestly

For the 2ND TO LAST mission of the game it is actually very easy, though it is quite long so a fatal mistake will be dragged out

[spiral tundra]

Just don’t explode on hard

With the tight corners and explosive vests hard is definitely more difficult

[quasi coral]

Wait they have e x p l o s i v e v e s t on hard?!

That settles it, I rather DIE than play on hard

[charred birch]

It’s got a reputation for being awfully hard ironically 😭

But you know with it being one of my favorite levels on the game even on hard difficulty I feel as though it may not be THAT bad

[gray zealot]

i got A on the streamer mission

[quasi coral]

Congrattations!!

[gray zealot]

only took like 3 deaths

[charred birch]

The layout is a lot easier to understand than people make it out to be (though it can feel like a maze on first playthroughs)

[quasi coral]

It is my 4th favorite, it stretches for far too long honestlyITTOOK 3 DEATHS?!

[quasi coral]

Really confusing to me when I first played, now I've practically gotten used to it

[charred birch]

Everything looks the same that’s probably why it’s overwhelming at first

Sins of the Father though ? I love the context and vibes of the mission but get this layout away from me

There are doors literally EVERYWHERE to the point it doesn’t even make sense at all

[gray zealot]

meh i took a side entrance which led me to 2nd floor

[charred birch]

Oh yeah that side entrance wins you the level basically

[torpid onyx]

me watching a plate carrier suspect eat 12 rounds of 5.7 AP and run off

[gray zealot]

im at the twisted nerve level

seems like its just a methlab based on breifing

[charred birch]

I hope you’re not scared of mini jumpscares

Bring a flashlight/night vision.

Or don’t but if so then don’t say I didn’t warn you…

[gray zealot]

okay

[charred birch]

Oh yeah the methheads have a habit of coming out of nowhere running at you like mad lads

[torpid onyx]

also sometimes idk how I'll shoot a unarmoured guy like 10 times with HP and then he will live and throw his gun down and surrender like brother are you not bleeding out i just unloaded my pistol into you

[minor notch]

Be afraid of small openings. Actually just be afraid in general

[charred birch]

Be very fucking afraid

[gray zealot]

😹 ✌️ no

[austere dove]

How do me and @worldly forum beat relapse on hard mode we're going insane trying to do it

[quasi coral]

Sins of the father lowkey feels the best

I just like the atmosphere

[gray zealot]

i have a gun and they dont😹😹😹😹😹

[spiral tundra]

Ofc my game crash bruh

[charred birch]

Well they have knives…

[quasi coral]

🫵😂

[charred birch]

And they’re a LOT more effective than i thought they’d be

[charred birch]

Oh it definitely FEELS like one of the best regarding the atmosphere

[quasi coral]

Ya I found out that trying to shoot someone face up to you stabbing you doesn't work

[charred birch]

The layout is really a bit much though

[quasi coral]

It's very confusing

[charred birch]

I’d argue it actually feels worse than the DLC oil rig

[quasi coral]

I usually run it from the elevator room for that reason

[charred birch]

Best entrance by far i would say

[quasi coral]

Feels more "straightened" out

[quasi coral]

Agreed, DLC oil rig is nice but

[charred birch]

But starting from the rooftop is so cool…

[quasi coral]

You really can't enjoy it with how hard it is

[charred birch]

Oh well can’t have everything i suppose

[spiral tundra]

I love oil rig
Looks so cool

[quasi coral]

The oil rig is the devs doing something new, and I fucking love it

[austere dove]

Is this a still wakes the deep reference

[quasi coral]

Life is life the life ufnoruntaturely the lif

[charred birch]

I have a love/hate relationship with 3 letter triad

[spiral tundra]

No lobbies worldwide guys

[quasi coral]

I love it

[spiral tundra]

I like lore of it
I hate it

[quasi coral]

I'm literally special ops 😎

It just feels nice to fight tier ones ya know? Feels militarish

[charred birch]

VOID when are you adding air strikes

[quasi coral]

Ok but all and all the general gameplay is nice, a lot of big gunfight moments and a lot of CQB

[torpid onyx]

ready or not public matchmaking experience

[austere dove]

What's the best loadout for relapse

[torpid onyx]

and if you do find a pub then it'll be guys who just run through shooting every suspect and not picking up evidence or even calling in kills so then you end up spending 15 minutes doing where's Waldo exept it's wheres the one crackhead we didn't call in

[quasi coral]

Definitely a rifle that isn't long

[austere dove]

What is a short rifle

[quasi coral]

And bring a little more flashbangs then usual

[quasi coral]

Uhh, the 10.5 inch barrels

[austere dove]

Thanks

[torpid onyx]

yeah can essentially A rank the game with any of the SBRs

well you can A rank with any gun it really doesn't matter that much

[quasi coral]

Ya, but I found my love for the SR-16

That muzzle velocity gets you a long way

[torpid onyx]

f90 supremacy

[quasi coral]

F90 sucks and needs to be removed

Personally

[torpid onyx]

90% of the time I'm running the f90/hk416/g36 or really any of the SBRs or SMGs

but I also run shield so slot of the time I'm just doing five seven/Glock/USP

I usually just run the 5.7 though for the extra rounds and plus I get passable armour penetration on armoured maps even on HP smmo

also cos like I'm literally Sam fisher

[quasi coral]

Bro thinks he's splinting cells 😭 🙏

Honestly I don't wanna use any of the 10 inch guns anymore

I usually have the PEQ-15 equipped and the thumb clips through the back which pisses me off

(I use high ready so I see it often)

[spiral tundra]

What’s all the 10 inch guns

[fast vessel]

Fr

[spiral tundra]

Bro I didn’t even realise this game had aim assist
What

[torpid onyx]

i don't even use aim assist if I'm on roller

it really doesn't need to have it

[quasi coral]

GA416, MK18 MOD 0, ARWC, LRAV, MCX Virtus.. To my knowledge that's it

Though only the GA416 and ARWC bears the thumb clipping

[spiral tundra]

I didn’t know console could use list command either

Bro this is so much better

[torpid onyx]

are the ARN, ARWC, DM4, g36 not 10 inch barrels as well

[quasi coral]

I mentioned the ARWC alr

DM4 is like hell lot of less then 10 inches

The ARN is also less then 10

[torpid onyx]

also techncially the f90 would also be "compact"

[quasi coral]

And the G36C is 10 inch, forgot to mention it

[quasi coral]

By all means ya, but I don't know if it's less or not visually

[waxen grove]

Void gone radio silent again?

[quasi coral]

Probably just the same as a 10 inch

[spiral tundra]

It’s bullpup
It’s like 16 inch I think

[floral peak]

i heard there should be patch tommorow

[floral gorge]

how much is 10 inch

idk imperialism

[spiral tundra]

Length of barrel just determines your bullet velocity

[torpid onyx]

254mm

[spiral tundra]

Which then increases penetration

[quasi coral]

Mhm, SR-16 my goat

[floral gorge]

tanks

[torpid onyx]

an inch is 25.4mm

[waxen grove]

Kam promise something in the discord? Ngl I am genuinely surprised the last dev blog was June.

[floral gorge]

?

and i thought metricism was international standard? does imperialism even relevant anymore besides tradition uses?

[spiral tundra]

?

[waxen grove]

I replied to the wrong person lol

[spiral tundra]

Hopefully it fixes my dang achievement 🙏

[quasi coral]

God PLEASE FIX THE AI 😭 🙏

[torpid onyx]

america

well the US, and 2 other small countries

[floral gorge]

feet

we need metric revolution

[waxen grove]

It’s never getting fixed. Void would need to commit time to a full rework but they would never commit time to anything that doesn’t directly end in a paycheck.

[lapis shuttle]

AI being better leads to more sales. So it is a paycheck.

[viscid finch]

Think if they could add like a medic type role in the game i feel it would be a cool aspect to the game as instead of getting shot and dying you go down and wait for a medic to revive you and patch you up so you can continue the mission with your team or something along the lines of this

[waxen grove]

I wish they could see it like that. It’s all DLCs and consoles now. Why spend the time on the ai on the chance more people pick up the game.

Honestly I would recommend this game if the ai was better but void just doesn’t see it like that

[torpid onyx]

revives are a bit unnecessary

[waxen grove]

I don’t think the game needs a medic role, it’s only an issue because of how cracked the ai is. Solve the ai problem and you won’t be left feeling like you want a revive

Don’t worry I have felt the exact same way.

[minor notch]

I think the AI was far more stable and realistic pre-console release. Now it feels like the old days

[lilac plaza]

So I heard we get a new DLC next year?

[waxen grove]

I never played enough of pre ronsole to tell you if it was genuinely better but pre dark waters was bad, post ronsole is bad.

[lilac plaza]

If that's true do we know what it's about?

[waxen grove]

New dlc soon™ no idea when or what it is going to be about. Void didn’t leak it this time around

[lilac plaza]

Understandable, but I hope it's a good one cause I loved the dark waters one and Los Suenos stories one

[waxen grove]

Void leaked dark waters in the game files. DLC2 was named “Maritime” so we had a good idea as to what it was going to be

[viscid finch]

Right okidokie and still think would be cool adds abit of realism of downed officers

[waxen grove]

But dlc 3 is just called dlc3

Or is it 4

Might need to look at the files again

[lilac plaza]

It woud be 4 cause you had Home invasion, dark waters and Los suenos stories

[plain raptor]

What is up, and I cannot stress this enough, my gamers?

[waxen grove]

I forget if los suenos stories counts as a dlc in the codebase

[lilac plaza]

What's up brother 👆🏻

[plain raptor]

I did another attempt at Rust Belt on Hard and failed in every possible way imaginable.

[lilac plaza]

Even Non Lethal?

[torpid onyx]

me watching a random in pubs dome a suspect who was in the process of surrendering and was necessary for the OBJ

[plain raptor]

On Hard I'm going lethal, 7.62s for everybody

[plain raptor]

At least it was by mistake or on purpose?

[lilac plaza]

This man going full Russian Spetznaz Alfa group🤣

[torpid onyx]

we had two people shouting at him close and bro walked in walked straight at the guy and capped him as he was putting his pistol down slowly clearly bent over surrendering

[lilac plaza]

Anyway, does anyone know how many missions there are on the base game? I just bought the game last week and I think I'm like 17 missions in

Is it 25 or 26?

[plain raptor]

18 I think

[lilac plaza]

Okay

Is relapse the last mission or is it next to last?

[plain raptor]

Well, which number is it on the list?😂

[waxen grove]

In terms of realism you would call officer down and request an R.A. You wouldn’t actually have a combat medic on a swat team.

[lilac plaza]

I can't remember🤣🤣

[plain raptor]

You got a few left, don't worry

At the same time, they aren't unlocked in proper "lore" sequence.

[lilac plaza]

Actually when I working with swat as an EMT we had a few who were trained as SWAT medics

[lilac plaza]

Gotcha

[waxen grove]

The more you know

[lilac plaza]

Also I apologize if I sounded like a total dick when I responded to that, if I did I did not mean to

[minor notch]

This drives me insane - working on lore content and there are things in the precinct that only stick around in between levels. The timeline is cracked

[plain raptor]

I thought more are unlocked the more missions you complete, I didn't know they were removed!

[waxen grove]

No worries, I was trying to figure out how to respond without myself sounding like a total dick/know it all

What’s your thoughts on the game so far as former swat?

[minor notch]

Ah yeah! Most of it stays, but there’s some small things of varying importance that move around. Lots of cool touches

[lilac plaza]

From an EMT stand point, it's pretty spot on. Love that the devs added IFAKs to the gear as well as the small medical kits on the vests.

[plain raptor]

Impressive, good luck with the video, I was personally surprised how intriguing the lore is, the contextual storytelling is indeed on par with S4

[minor notch]

I am a cop and I can tell you the nonsensical suspect/civvy behavior is on point lol

[lilac plaza]

But from a former swat medic, the scenarios are absolutely the stuff we would expect during hostage situations and drug busts as well as child exploitation

[minor notch]

Thanks! Yeah it’s slow going. Don’t know if I’ll ever finish it but it’s fun

[lilac plaza]

But I believe that there are some instances in the game that are a bit far fetched

Like when C.O.A.S.T. is dispatched for the boat mission, swat would have a sniper in the chopper watching for movement.

[floral gorge]

does the heli camera still too zoomed?

[minor notch]

That one made me giggle. The legal implications of a municipal SWAT team running that operation are wild

[lilac plaza]

Right, C.O.A.S.T. would be running that operation or at least the Maritime Counter Terrorist group

[plain raptor]

they also would've never sent a SWAT team on an oil rig, probably Delta or Seals

[lilac plaza]

Exactly

[floral gorge]

well this game is about swat yes?

[plain raptor]

And swag I may add

[minor notch]

There’s a couple big agencies that have some goofy extra jurisdictional/fed stuff going on but it’s exceedingly rare

[waxen grove]

Yeah scenarios are well subjective because it’s a game however there’s a few scenarios I feel are … like mostly ai being too aggressive or already waiting to get the jump on us when the briefing has you expecting otherwise

[floral gorge]

then we'll be the one who steps up first. no matter where it is. land, off shore and space. we as swat will be there because ready or not.

the coast people can sit there but we're the executer because well. were the main character

[minor notch]

Until you are sued because you are not a fed

[waxen grove]

I have not had a single experience where it felt like they genuinely didn’t know we were coming

[floral gorge]

or maybe coast was just intelligence or enforcer agency? not strategic tactical?

[lilac plaza]

Fucking A

[floral gorge]

yet we own FISA skin ingame, soo double agent

make it triple. dont forget the intelligence agency

oh yeah it was joint task force. we got assist from coast

that explains

[minor notch]

If the next DLC does not add quick time events where I have to justify my excess use of force in an internal investigation I will stop playing

[gray zealot]

i just found the little girl in the methlab level

wasnt that one of the censored parts

[minor notch]

Very much censored from what it used to be

[gray zealot]

what was before censorship

[minor notch]

If I recall correctly she had a needle in/near her arm and it was implied she was being abused by the customers in the crack house

[gray zealot]

what the fuck

[minor notch]

Think the voice lines when you found her were different too, like Judge sounded very disturbed when you report her

[quasi coral]

Soo, the Paramedic trait but in real time?

[viscid finch]

Yeah basically

[quasi coral]

You know what, I think the AI bug is leading to a downgrade of sales..

Bad for business, you might say

[viscid finch]

Tbh the bugs in the game pushed me to stop playing yesterday, bit sad but i cant deal with the bs

[plain raptor]

They will defo fix the AI, I'm just not so sure they'll do so before they release the next content batch

[spiral tundra]

That’s sick that you worked alongside them

[quasi coral]

I'm still livin with em, I'm still hopeful the devs will fix the bugs

[waxen grove]

Why do you think the focus was on console? I feel like void feels like the pc market was milked as far as it could go (without actually fixing anything) and moved to milk the console market

[quasi coral]

Honestly I can't call em Activision levels of greedy yet

Like, console AND crossplay is pretty big, money or not

But I do agree that they just didn't solidify enough, ya know?

[viscid finch]

I hope they do fix them soon tbh im lost on what to do with the game cuz ive complete the whole game with grades B+ and above and so i started a swat based roleplay server on here for the game but then nobody seems to want to bother lol 😂

[floral gorge]

then liquidify

[quasi coral]

You can try hard mode, or go for that S rank yea?

It was pretty fun grinding out Hide and Seek for that sick lookin G3 combat shirt lol

Or was it relapse? Meh I forgot already

[waxen grove]

Activision greed is at a whole new level but void does rivel the big AAA studios in terms of backwards decisions.

[quasi coral]

I personally don't really agree, I just think the games super buggy that's all

[waxen grove]

I just moved it to my hard drive and moved on. Some day we may get the SDK so I can fix the ai but that day isn’t now

[quasi coral]

And the changes to the game for console, uhh ya that was bad

[minor notch]

Yeah, they compromised a lot for a console release and that made me sad. They put a lot of deliberate effort into lore and gore mechanics for instance, just to put a poorly done censor on both

[quasi coral]

Honestly it doesn't feel so real that the suspects have intact body parts against a 7.62 or slug lkl

[stoic thistle]

Just S ranked 3 letter triad.

[quasi coral]

Congrattations!!!

[stoic thistle]

I gave 3 of my officers flash Grenade launchers, and boy did they use them.

[quasi coral]

The flash grenade launchers were really bad for my team

Probably bugged, they just didn't fire em enough

[torpid onyx]

the 40mm rotary launcher is kinda busted for non lethal or just in general

unless you mean just the single shot long tactical

[stoic thistle]

I used the rotary launcher.

[viscid finch]

Ive done that

[quasi coral]

It's time to take a break and come back for the patch notes

[viscid finch]

Indeed

Give it a week or 2

[quasi coral]

Mhm, I can't stop playing it because it's one of a kind

Unless I wanna go play that roblox knockoff, what was it? Hellmet yea

Jesus christ the AI here is nothing compared to the ones there, tier 1++ operator levels of skillz

[viscid nexus]

ya until they fix the online lobby co-op glitch its basically a dead game to me, playing solo only does so much for me

[quasi coral]

Have you considered gaeming with the AI?

Sure they'll, break everytime they wanna breach a door but, whatever

[torpid onyx]

bruh did the Devs misspell "groans" in one of the subtitles for a guy why does the subtitle say "gorans"

it's a random guy in the harbour map and it was only for him

[viscid nexus]

ya the ai is ok i mean i just miss the old days of swat 4, where you had an actual dedicated lobby browser similar to how Arma and Ground Branch etc are - where you can favorite lobbys and build tactical co-op based communities to play with...it just doesnt seem that difficult if that was able to be implemented in the early 2000s lol

[stoic thistle]

What do you guys think Black Sentinel had planned?

[gray zealot]

what is the best rifle

[amber dock]

Whichever you find most fun to use, but if we’re talking raw stats then it’s any of the high caliber ones like SA58,GA51 M14

[gray zealot]

hm

okay

any reccomendations

[torpid onyx]

you don't need the "best rifle"

just use the one you feel most comfortable with

or looks coolest

[gray zealot]

hm

theres no diffrence on them all??

[torpid onyx]

there is but if it effects your gameplay by any substantial amount then you're looking at the wrong thing if you think it's the guns fault

[amber dock]

A gun is a gun, like all guns in Ron minus the pepper ball guns will eventually do their intended purpose, incap/kill someone. But of course a 9mm will take longer to take a suspect down with armor vs a 7.62 caliber gun. But they all still will eventually do it.

[torpid onyx]

man I hate doors with thick frames that when you crack it open it there's barely even a slit so it's impossible to throw anything thru and it's way harder to see a trap

[torpid onyx]

in regards to specifically the rifles 223, 300blk and 308 will all do their job fast enough on armoured targets

[void jasper]

Where the heck is crystal leighton on the ‘thankyou, come again’ level. I’m literally stuck on the first level

[honest swallow]

I forgot but I think it’s like in some random closet

[void jasper]

Thx. I didn’t even think to look in the closets 👍🏼

[quasi gate]

The little girl is in a closet to the left of the metal door in the center of the map. It's in a hallway that connects to the break room, kitchen, and front diner

[void jasper]

Gotcha 🔥

[quasi gate]

She'll be in a darkened area behind something too. If you shout for compliance you'll hear her little voice

[wide verge]

SR16

[spiral tundra]

Just test out some and see what you like

Everyone runs different rifles, there isn’t a best one

[torpid onyx]

I swap rifles like every mission

I mostly just run SBRs or SMGs though

[idle zinc]

Which shotgun is good

[odd mesa]

Nova

[lilac plaza]

Is the private servers messing up for you guys?

[modest fable]

yes

[lilac plaza]

Is it just the private servers? Or is it pub as well?

[torpid onyx]

mfw my pubs teamates for some reason decide to automatically nominate themselves to be first in the stack despite the fact I'm the one with a shield and then they end up getting capped in the head because they breached and barged Infront of me with shield

they could've atleast flashed too if they were going in first they literally had a flash launcher long gun

[silk dune]

Any chance the tracker for 'Im too old for this' is getting fixed soon?

I have some maps done on hard but don't know which ones are invalid

(tracker no. less than no. Shown in i.e quick play)

[quaint pond]

is there a way to tell if suspects will have body armor without having experience in the level?

[pallid tapir]

To me without prior knowledge is based on assumptions. For example assume that crackheads are not gonna wear armor, for common criminals i assume that most wont wear body armor while others might have basic kevlar vests. For the enemy types like the military vets, bodyguards and terrorists i assume that they all have varied degrees of proper body armor like ceramic plates or metalic plates

For the gangbangers its a 50/50 some will have no armor at all while others will have good body armor

[spiral tundra]

I doubt it’s ceramic
They still die in a couple shots

Probably Kevlar

[pallid tapir]

Or metal plates idk i just take 7.62 AP for most missions lol

[spiral tundra]

Kevlar is definitely the most common
And it’s used by military
So I’d presume all enemies have Kevlar

[pallid tapir]

I think some enemies might stronger armor given the type of plate carrier they sport like the military vets or are all amored enemy types just kevlar?

[spiral tundra]

Most militaries have Kevlar

[solemn patio]

Lowkey for light armor you can use 300 blk hollow points, dont really matter

[spiral tundra]

Ceramic and steel are too heavy on top of other equipment

And cost a lot more

[solemn patio]

And the other 7.62s

[midnight goblet]

tryna invite someone on PS (im on xbox) through epic. says they're offline but they're online. any ideas

[torpid onyx]

i wonder how 5.7 actually behaves on armour especially the hollow point

compared to like 9mm/45

[quaint pond]

bruh i ordered my squad to move to a location and one of my officers just casually clears the whole mission by himself

ramirez da goat

[toxic harness]

This is my list from easiest to hardest missions:

1. Lawmaker - The easiest mission to do overall
2. Dorms - Door traps is the only reason it's number 2, but still damn simple besides there's people that will stab you
3. Mirage - Although it is an active shooter scenario, you can easily find the prince compared to other missions
4. Narcos - Has long range distances and you have to go into a lot of houses to get everyone and the informant
5. Leviathan - Has the most level areas + Very damn open
6. 3 Letter Triad - Largest Suspect Count + Lots of holes for suspects to shoot + Largest Map

[spiral tundra]

Lawmaker needs more suspects

[glad stirrup]

What a liar bro Mirage fucking sucks

[spiral tundra]

It’s just so empty

[quaint pond]

can we get a W ramirez in the chat

[onyx wasp]

hi, one question, are dlcs important for multiplayer?

[spiral tundra]

Mine is

1. Dorms
2. Lawmaker
3. Narcos
4. Mirage
5. Leviathan
6. 3LT

[glad stirrup]

Is it just me or is Stolen Valor the actual worst map ever

[toxic harness]

Just you bro

I think Stolen Valor isn't that difficult but pretty damn fun

[spiral tundra]

Just you
But it’s annoying when they got a hostage that you can’t see under the staircase and they execute them when you come down the stairs

[glad stirrup]

The one time I bring a shotgun they take everyone hostage all of a sudden…

[quaint pond]

then stop greasing them up

[toxic harness]

Stop making loud noises

[spiral tundra]

Slug

[waxen grove]

It’s all well and good that this is where they draw the line but why couldn’t they opt for torn garments. I think the gore system isn’t censorship but a quick fix to get it to work on consoles

[glad stirrup]

Yeah I would if my ai teammates wouldn’t scream at the first crackhead in the street

[toxic harness]

Mirage is less challenging as a Active Shooter when Elephant is more challenging cuz all suspects will start killing civilians if you don't get all them. For Mirage tho you just need to get the prince and the active shooter scenario will be disabled

[glad stirrup]

I just shoot the prince

[toxic harness]

That also can stop the scenario

[spiral tundra]

And the mission grade is gone

[glad stirrup]

Womp womp bro toc is such a crybaby

[toxic harness]

bruh

[glad stirrup]

SA’ing women and then saying absolutely creepy stuff after is just unbelievable

[toxic harness]

And he says that he's the prince of a country (Qatar) and be like "I have power so I can do whatever I want fuck head"

[brisk scaffold]

The graphic downgrade is insane I don't even play the game anymore LOL

[glad stirrup]

Qatar deez nuts bro

[toxic harness]

They would like to have a visit with you

[brisk scaffold]

Voice chat still broken

[toxic harness]

just use Discord vc

[glad stirrup]

“I’m telling my daddy on you meanie weanies!”

[toxic harness]

lmao

[spiral tundra]

Sending them to prison is worse for them than killing

[glad stirrup]

Diplomatic immunity
Also they get their own cell block I think

Also they’re rich so they’ll just end up like Diddy

[spiral tundra]

Ok
A lot of them would also recieve a execution

[glad stirrup]

Nuh uh

Bro thinks the justice system actually works

[brisk scaffold]

Game is trash moe and devs dgaf

[spiral tundra]

It’s worse to sit in a cell for the rest of your life than get the easy way out

[spiral tundra]

Bro

[glad stirrup]

He will get the easy way out in court

[toxic harness]

Update will come tmr btw

[glad stirrup]

Maybe only 5-6 years

[spiral tundra]

Yeah and then a gang will hunt him

[glad stirrup]

I doubt it they will probably extradite him to Qatar

[spiral tundra]

Qatar are quite strict on sa too

[glad stirrup]

Not when it’s the prince

ever heard of those freaky porta potty stories?

[spiral tundra]

What 🙏

[glad stirrup]

Look it up

actually don’t

Or if you do at least use incognito

[spiral tundra]

I don’t gotta worry about that

[toxic harness]

Lmao

[glad stirrup]

Buddy is not uhh… that one guy from rap song

[toxic harness]

huh

[glad stirrup]

you know, the uhh… the guy

[toxic harness]

No

[glad stirrup]

THE GUY FROM 808 SUENOS

oh yeah Andre Williams

You aren’t the Mudasir-killer lil bro

[wide verge]

any advice for Leviathan? One of the missions I struggle with the most for some reason

[wraith pawn]

So my “getting your sea legs” trophy went from 22% to 33% yesterday… how do i progress it

[inner goblet]

good lord ive finally finished valley of the dolls on S

[wraith pawn]

Same with from house to home

[toxic harness]

You may need to replay every mission and get special achievement objectives

[glossy canyon]

Does the paramedic trait work even if the officer who has it dies

[wraith pawn]

Yeah, but it will ruin “the hermit” achievement so be careful

[toxic harness]

Yeah as the Hermit and Dev Watch wants you to have a run where no officer is killed

[haughty leaf]

Is the deluxe edition better to get vs standard ?? I’m not big on first person mode games but I love police tactical games.

Btw new to the group lol

[brave bridge]

anyone got a quick idea what does the HARD MODE ..and more section contain?

[sonic tendon]

attempting to s rank valley of dolls again for the like 20th time wish me luck

[latent egret]

same, but idk if i should get the game

[haughty leaf]

Yeah.
I actually just got it . It’s on sale . So that’s a plus

[lean edge]

I suggest waiting until the game gets a bit more fixed

[gray zealot]

should i use flashlight or laser for the spider level??

like is it a night level

[haughty leaf]

Oops 😬

Just got it

🫣

[toxic harness]

If you want to have every missions and the upcoming dlc on 2026, sure. But the bundle will also give you 3 great guns to use that is exclusive to preorder or deluxe users

Otherwise you can get standard. Although the 3 weapons will be available along side Operation Alfa on 2026

[haughty leaf]

Thank you for the information. I did get the deluxe edition. It’s downloading as I speak. I’ll play when I get home.
I’m on PS5 btw

[digital cipher]

is the beanbag shotgun better then the pepper ball gun?

[toxic harness]

Yes

[digital cipher]

word thanks brochacha

[dawn tree]

Hiyo everybody, since a few days ago I noticed that when I join people in multiplayer (so not hosting) my free lean is half working (I usually play solo so maybe I notice it late). For instance I can't free lean to the left it gets me out of free lean everytime. Right works 9/10 times, but other directions are basically not working.

No issue if I am the one hosting, and with or without crossplay change nothing

[digital cipher]

oh that dunno about that ive also been having the same issue

[gray zealot]

how the fuck do you S tier🙏 i did that level perfectly

[toxic harness]

Do non lethal runs

[gray zealot]

whattt

what if they shoot me

[dawn tree]

Sadge, I will try my luck in different channels

[toxic harness]

You can shoot them with non lethal projectiles and they will comply

It's not that hard, unless you do it on Hard mode

[deep patio]

Then shoot them with pepper balls and/or beanbags

It's just what you gotta do for a non lethal run to get the S Rank

Just be extra careful cause sometimes they can just kill you before they get fully stunned

[digital cipher]

spam flashbang what i do lmao

[gray zealot]

how do i diffuse and detect grenades

[spiral tundra]

Peek door
Mirrorgun

Once spotted you gotta get close to the door but don’t push on the door
Then look right at it and equip wire cutters

[toxic harness]

did someone skip training?!

[spiral tundra]

It’s not in training

[timid kernel]

Hi guys, I’m really new to the game and I’m really excited to join the community, I’m wondering tho, what’s MP like? Are people generally chill and is it active enough?

[toxic harness]

Most lobbies are stupid

[timid kernel]

Like what kinda stupid

@toxic harness

[toxic harness]

very damn stupid

[spiral tundra]

If you wanna play with people go to #🔎looking-for-players

Public are terrible

[deep patio]

I kinda disagree, some of them can be bad, but I have found a couple of public lobbiea where surprisingly people were actually good

But definitely do go Sinto #🔎looking-for-players to find people to play with that fit your play style

But then again give public a shot, if you hate it, just leave and go find some people

[spiral tundra]

I’ve met some great people who I stack with now in LFG

[deep patio]

Though I did have moments where the entire lobby died and I had to finish the mission alone

My entire team died on Greased palms and I was all alone 😭

I did finish the map without dying though so

[timid kernel]

Are most lobbies rp or players who are good or neither

[spiral tundra]

Good

At least on here

Publics are terrible

[gray zealot]

whats the best scope

[deep patio]

Mostly personal preference
This game doesn't really operate on the "best" type of philosophy

[gray zealot]

which one takes up least space

[tulip rampart]

finally duo S-tiered hide and seek after hours of tears and toil

i shudder to imagine what it's like on hard difficulty

[haughty leaf]

Is offline mode missions good?

[amber dock]

they are the same regardless of internet conection status?

[crude rune]

Are we ready, or not?

[storm belfry]

Some shit snake would say

[glad stirrup]

No but a flashlight is always a good idea on any map

I’m always rocking a flashlight

[gray zealot]

meh i prefer nightvision

flashlight is too bright imo

[lusty light]

why the hell is the height overbore on the mk17 so god awful

[deep patio]

God only knows why

Still decimating the poor souls that come across my rifle

[lusty light]

Im testing it out on the little red target thing and my sight is completely over it and the bullet is hitting. If i bring it down like halfway, then the bullet just goes completely under the thing

[gritty lava]

I will sell the right side of my brain for an actual single player mode without having teammates, I'm tired of crashing because I wanna screen record my god damn solo gameplay

Nvm I'm an idiot

[unique wren]

Anyone else raging on relapse?

[gritty lava]

Who hasn't

[gritty lava]

Nvm it still gave me teamates

[lusty light]

Ong lmao

[lusty light]

Do private friend lobby

[gritty lava]

No

Because I'll crash

[charred birch]

Just use the hold command when you spawn

Your teammates will just stay there and not move until you tell them to start doing something again

[gritty lava]

That's the thing

There still will be teammate

And they don't like to listen

[amber dock]

if you host friends only there won't be any teammates

[gritty lava]

I'm talking about full solo

[charred birch]

I mean, it’s still solo gameplay isn’t it ?

[gritty lava]

Dawg

[charred birch]

And I doubt they’d ever add a solo game mode man cause it’s meant to be played with a team in the first place

Or at least it’s definitely not VOID’s priority

Since you can just have a makeshift solo game mode

[spiral tundra]

Yeah and what swat guy is entering a building with 20 armed suspects alone

You’ll get Swiss cheesed

[charred birch]

I mean solo runs are fun don’t get me wrong

[spiral tundra]

I’m not good enough for solo

[charred birch]

But I’d rather we get PvP before a solo game mode 💔

[gritty lava]

You can

It's called multiplayer with idiots

[spiral tundra]

It’s fun doing makeshift pvp in the training thing
But half the shots don’t register in there so

[charred birch]

Unless they add some first responder kind of missions but even then, it’s a SWAT game

[spiral tundra]

I also didn’t realise the game gives you aim assist
So I turned it off earlier

I mean even when I had it I usually broke it then aimed again

[charred birch]

Oh yeah it does but it’s not very obvious

[lusty light]

[gritty lava]

It barely does much

[spiral tundra]

I also found out console could use list command structure

My life changed
It’s so much easier

[charred birch]

The wheel command structure is honestly so awful 💔

That might be because I come from PC originally but jesus

[spiral tundra]

Half the time I failed with it

[lusty light]

Yeah, its rough

literally just swapped it rn cuz i forgot abt it

[toxic harness]

I can do wheel commands

[amber dock]

@gritty lava Ain't that hard to start solo lobby

[cosmic swift]

Idk how to use this lol

Im not that ready for console controls

[gritty lava]

That's not what I'm on about

[lusty light]

💔

[gritty lava]

I'm talking about how when I screen record I crash a lot or makes gameplay slow

[lusty light]

We gave you quite literally, the only solution and you're shutting it down

[lusty light]

that was tho..?

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[gritty lava]

No it wasn't

[amber dock]

we give you a solution and you don't want it so I guess then you have to suffer with Ai

[spiral tundra]

Oh yeah
Doing anything with captures makes the game go

[lusty light]

"I will sell the right side of my brain for an actual single player mode without having teammates..."

that was literally your opening statement

[toxic harness]

To be fair he is in character

[gritty lava]

I meant without needing to be online

Like without wifi

[storm belfry]

@charred birch you play RoN?

[charred birch]

Yes sir/ma’am

[storm belfry]

I mean, he's determined

[gray zealot]

fuck the post office is hard

[charred birch]

[storm belfry]

Anything but my name god damn it 💔

[charred birch]

Do I call you Goldship or Professional Butcher…

BEAR WITH ME I’M A LITTLE STUPID

[spiral tundra]

gold ship 😭

[toxic harness]

You need help?

[charred birch]

Well goldship it is

[storm belfry]

I WONDER HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO REALLY BEING A FISH!

[gray zealot]

nah i just needa learn the layout and stuff

[toxic harness]

Rn I am planning to help a handful of people to get Greased Palm on Hard S

[storm belfry]

I can feel the pain from here

feels like getting drop kicked by...

well that doesn't work for me cause I'm the one doing that

[spiral tundra]

I remember when I first got this game and I sounded like an idiot here 🥀

[storm belfry]

I remember when I first got this game and got A rank as my first rank

cause I'm intelligent<3

[charred birch]

Well erm my first rank was an A+ 🤓

[storm belfry]

FUCKIN NERRRRRRD

[charred birch]

So I’m automatically a much better person than you are !

[toxic harness]

Same lol

[storm belfry]

I only got A rank cause I didn't choose non lethal

[spiral tundra]

Same
Idk why I actually was bothering arresting suspects

[charred birch]

AW SHUCKS MY BAD

[storm belfry]

So far it's only Greased and Buy One get Two I haven't gotten S rank for

And neon tomb

[spiral tundra]

Buy one get two

[charred birch]

Buy Once Buy Twice is quite alright ! (You almost got it right it’s okay /lh)

[toxic harness]

Buy Cheap Buy Twice and Neon Tomb are simple for me. But Greased Palms is a test of skill

[spiral tundra]

I love recieving a free second car

[charred birch]

Greased Palms will be Greased Palms.

[storm belfry]

OPEN FIRE! squad just volly fires Scars into the room as the Cartel members get golf ball sized holes in em

[spiral tundra]

I tried hard S on 3LT with 2 others the other day
We don’t talk about it

[toxic harness]

You need a minimum of 4 men

[storm belfry]

I got it A ranked

[spiral tundra]

Ik
I’ve got a full squad just some werent able

[charred birch]

Aye cheers !

[toxic harness]

I S ranked Greased Palms 3 times already

And I am gonna help people get that done

[spiral tundra]

Icl
Our team does well but we don’t got roles
People just bring whatever and we pray it works

[charred birch]

nom nom shark

[toxic harness]

That's not how that should work

[storm belfry]

My lowest rank is D rank on Neon Tomb (I brought the war they brought the gulf)

[toxic harness]

Mine was D rank on Elephant cuz I just go gun blazing and defuse bomb

[spiral tundra]

Ehh we don’t got issues

Mine was D rank neon cuz glitch civ

[toxic harness]

And I basically speedrsn

I just execute those shooters myself

[storm belfry]

I treating that shit like a cod match

Flash out, capture, run across the building, flash out, capture, run around for a minute finding the bomb

[charred birch]

Man I remember reading Ends of the Earth’ briefing for the first time and being like "Aw man, that’s sad… I’m going non lethal !"

I brought CS gas forgetting the mother has stage 4 IV lung cancer.

[storm belfry]

That's...

Holy peak

[spiral tundra]

S ranks have given me some of my most memorable moments on this game tho

[charred birch]

Well hey I tried didn’t I !

🫩💔

[spiral tundra]

Other day on hard elephant I was mid cuff and I just hear an explosion
I look up to see my buddy lying on the ground

[storm belfry]

Astra, what matters is that you gave her Canadian Healthcare, by gassing her to death.

[charred birch]

Yeah exactly !

[storm belfry]

Bro got the fucking Afghanistan vet experience

I played neon Tomb and managed to talk down all the bomb vest guys

[spiral tundra]

how..

Dudes have some of the most morale

[storm belfry]

Read my name.

They don't get a choice.

[spiral tundra]

[charred birch]

By chance did they have 20 7.62x51 sized holes in their chest when you talked them down ?

[storm belfry]

Nope, only bruises from neck to toe

[spiral tundra]

I remember my first S run on neon
Walked around a corner to explode, dudes camping corners now
“I EXPLODED” down the mic 😭

[charred birch]

Right…

[spiral tundra]

Straight up turned a corner in a room we just cleared and there’s a dude there
Why don’t they run out when there’s flashbangs going off everywhere bro

You’d think they’d hear right

Once I’m done with these S ranks im exterminating whole maps

[storm belfry]

The power of the bean bag shotgun of conviction

[spiral tundra]

There will be no survivors

[charred birch]

Beanbag ? What’s that I only ever heard of 12GA…

I heard of pepperballs too no idea what these are

[storm belfry]

Sometimes I just run at the bomb guys and blow them up with flashes

[spiral tundra]

Why
Just why

Why would you run at the bomb guys

[storm belfry]

Gotta give em a taste of their medicine

[charred birch]

I mean that works…

[spiral tundra]

We need frags in this game

[charred birch]

I think we might need airstrikes too.

[spiral tundra]

-400 civilian killed
+5 suspect reported

[storm belfry]

Funny thing is

I find that on Neon Tomb, bean bag puts em down with one shell, but against Cartel members it's either one shot or BANG! BANG! BANG! I SURRENDER! BANG! BANG! BANG!

I'm doing neon rn, and some guy is standing at the door with a RPD

so I bean bag him and he jumps up yelling, "OK OK! I SURRENDER!"

[spiral tundra]

It’s so annoying
Dudes surrendering then mid getting down he raises the gun and shoots me three times
Then surrenders fully
I bet if I shot him it would be unauthorised

[stray oar]

Ayo is it weird I wanna see that full vid of Andrew Whitfield assasination attemp from the dark waters teaser?

[storm belfry]

Call me 50 cent the way I'm full red rn and not one body

[rocky stream]

damn 😭

who would be down to try to get s rank on vally of dolls

[storm belfry]

I'M ON NEON TOMB PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK WITH A BOMB

[rocky stream]

lol

[storm belfry]

...

Taser 1 - Bomb man 0

[rocky stream]

W

[storm belfry]

Also hit him with a the whole spice cabinet

[glad stirrup]

How do you play suenos ball arcade game on console?

[rocky stream]

what

[glad stirrup]

The arcade game in HQ

[rocky stream]

idk where it is

[civic fiber]

you have stingers

[storm belfry]

Easiest S rank ever but

Neon Tomb, number 1 hide and seek map

Still looking for the last civilian

[rocky stream]

again who wanna do a vally of dolls S rank

[storm belfry]

He was in a corner hiding from me

[spiral tundra]

I wanna kill people

[rocky stream]

nobody

[storm belfry]

Neon Tomb is so easy to S rank

[rocky stream]

nice

[storm belfry]

I dress up my guys as Mexican Police too

Cause drippy

[rocky stream]

damn

[storm belfry]

I can sense the rage through my screen

[deep patio]

Im going to commit horrendous things

[storm belfry]

❤️

[quaint pond]

are lobbies fucked rn? 15k players on steam and i find no lobbies worldwide all difficulties

[storm belfry]

what, you scared?

[deep patio]

Omg the last suspect is horrible sometimes

Last suspect on Greased Palms and bro just appears and catches me so off guard I felt my blood pressure spike

[storm belfry]

Last suspect always getting hit with dead eye level shot to the nuts

[deep patio]

Having a crazed suspect hell bent on avenging his fallen ones is always fun when it's the last suspect

AND THEY ALWAYS JUMP SCARE YOU LIKE BRO I HAD MY GUN UP WHERE DID YOU COME FROM

AND WHAT DAINTY FEET DO YOU HAVE TO BE THAT SILENT ?

I was so terrified my eardrums were hurting somehow

The adrenaline was next level , thank goodness I nailed the shot because I was really really bad health wise 💀

[storm belfry]

lol

[uncut rover]

Is CS gas useful in any way? I swear I just tried to use it on 3 letter triad and only got like two suspects to surrender with like 4 gas canisters

[crude prism]

mid

[solemn patio]

Is it weird to say I like relapse as a level

Its lowk fun

[void jasper]

If I repeat a mission for a higher score can I improve my team status quicker? My guys are stressin out from shootin all these tweakers

[spiral tundra]

Ok, so you can’t cuff some downed suspects due to where you shoot them, I know this
Can someone tell me at least some of the areas where you shoot them and you don’t have to cuff cuz sometimes I spend so long staring at a dead body for the cuff prompt 😭

[bitter mason]

it should only stop you from cuffing if you blew a limb off

[spiral tundra]

Idk
Stops me without that

[void jasper]

Isn’t there a radio ingame? to communicate with a team members?

[lean edge]

NO

[uncut rover]

Got it lesson learned to never use gas again

[deep patio]

Well

It's not that simple

Gas is broken and unreliable currently but it's good tool provided it works well

And if you're not on hard, cause gas is so nerfed on hard it's next to irrelevant

But when it works it's an amazing throwable, because it makes suspect surrender real easily and has a great radius on standard difficulty

[latent egret]

I just started the game and im lovin it, the gunplay feels great, the levels feels great, the ai is fine. Only issue is the fps (in which case i have it on "no limit" in both pc settings and gane settings however it still feels off)

[potent ocean]

@gaunt gale , amazing job at the booth, hope to see you guys around again

[gaunt gale]

Hey, again thanks for showing up and talking with us

[maiden gale]

question does ballistic mask make citizens and criminals less likely to hear your commands or is that fake?

[potent ocean]

Im glad I got the chance too, even for a prototype booth, you guys did really good on it, Hopfully you’ll improve further on it whenever you decide to go to another convention

[crude prism]

Fake.

[lofty grove]

If anyone wants some good shit to watch on YouTube watch "The evil genius of fascist design" one of the most interesting watches I've ever seen

[haughty leaf]

I’m on PS5 Pro it seems fine to me.

[simple oyster]

Question what map has the live streamer

?

[crude prism]

23Mb/s, the second mission

[simple oyster]

In the main missions or

[crude prism]

ye

[timid kernel]

Hi chat, what less than lethal weapons are good

[grave crown]

grenade launcher, beanbag

[simple oyster]

How do you do the training course with live people

[simple oyster]

G19 is safe if you catch my drift

[quasi coral]

They usually take suspects when my guys yell at them

[quasi coral]

Nop, yer good

[storm belfry]

Is the hospital map supposed to be hard?

Cause I just lost two officers and switched from SWAT to MACVSOG as soon as I lost one

[bitter cradle]

anyone tryna sqaud up

[rocky stream]

nobody wanna try and hit S rank on vally of dolls???

[bitter cradle]

sure

my mic is bugging out for some reason

[rocky stream]

k

[west perch]

is there a way to alter between the zooms on the certain scopes in the game (like a keybind of sorts)

and if so what keybind

[bitter cradle]

i think p

[rocky stream]

who else wanna do s rank on vally of dolls

[bitter cradle]

@quaint pond

[quaint pond]

what

[bitter cradle]

wana do valley fo the dolls

[quaint pond]

i havent done it b4 but sure

lemme finish the mission im in rn

[bitter cradle]

ight

[quaint pond]

cant find the last suspect

[bitter cradle]

@rocky stream

[quasi coral]

Not exactly

[austere rain]

it's one of the more complex maps, very big, high suspect count, but once you learn it its easy

[quasi coral]

See, it is a generally larger map as it stretches out for LONG.

[storm belfry]

I understand, I'm just dim

[quasi coral]

It's also, like he said, complex. This could push you to make decisions due to the ticking bomb

[rocky stream]

vally of dolls is a pain since the amount of funnels

[quasi coral]

Just don't drag out gunfights, and make sure your team breaches correctly, if it's on hard mode.. Ya goodluck with allat

[chilly thorn]

yo is there gonna be an uhhh patch soon theres still like a lot of bugs

particularly the broken swat ai.

[quasi coral]

It's this week from what I heard

Only from the people, I'm worried it might be m i s i n f o r m a t i o n ! !

So don't get your hopes up

[chilly thorn]

Have you been having the swat team walking into each other while in a stack and just being horrible at breaching?

I have A LOT its annoying

like they just phase through each other now aswell

[storm belfry]

Yup, nope

Mine love to stand and stare at me as I walk into them wanting to leave a small room

[chilly thorn]

No I mean like they actually LITERALLY walk into each other like they form together into a swat blob

[civic fiber]

ive had the same issue

[chilly thorn]

I hate it, it ruins how cool the breaches look

[quaint pond]

or just walk halfway across the map to breach from another angle

[chilly thorn]

Yeah they do that a lot on sins

Rust belt is also broken to shit which really sucks because thats a really good map when it works

[quaint pond]

it happened to me mostly on the truck loading bay on greasy palms

[quasi coral]

YES

AND THEY LITERALLY WALK THROUGH THE DOOR MINDLESSLY

Sometimes when I tell them to switch stacks a bit, they'll open the door without my command for sum reason

[chilly thorn]

The swat ai is so bad at breaching normally but can detect door bombs even when you don't look at one, making traps pathetic.

They will actually REFUSE to open the door a lot of the time if theres a bomb, Like I should be getting punished for having them open the door they shouldn't warn me!

[storm belfry]

erm

[swift crow]

can anyone help me for some reason my fps suddenly is lower and my gpu usage is lower than it was before, i went from like 90 to 50-60 fps

[chilly thorn]

What map?

[swift crow]

all of em

even in the police station

[chilly thorn]

It may just be the game loading stuff in.

[swift crow]

ohhh no no what i meant by it lowering was i used to get 90 constantly then it went down to 50-60 for some reason after i opened the game

reopened*

[chilly thorn]

oh uhhh

I don't really know sorry

useless input I know

[inland pewter]

Just started using shield recently again when did the spam ads happen as A bug when using it 🤔

[still harbor]

Really need an assault rifle class that prioritizes recoil control and handling. If you have some suggestions please let me know!

[atomic marten]

The hide and seek achievement sucks I did what it told me and didn’t get the achievement

[atomic marten]

Dw for me they just walk through it

[quasi coral]

G36C
Sight - RMR of your choice
Grip - Angled grip !!! (mb)
Utility - Anything of your choice

MK18
Sight - Sight of your choice
Grip - Vertical Grip
Utility - Anything of your choice

[still harbor]

Appreciate the suggestions, thank you!

[quasi coral]

The G36C has practically zero recoil, the MK18 has really good handling, reload speeds fast

[quasi coral]

No problem dud

[still harbor]

Just ran a mission using the G36C loadout you recommended and it's awesome! I highly recommend it for anyone looking for a mobile yet accurate rifle class.

[vestal mauve]

Patch when

[gaunt gale]

Soon

[torpid onyx]

bruh i swear I just got wallhacked by an NPC

there wasn't a teamate near me and bro suddenly just lit me up thru a solid wall on the 1st floor second building hospital as I was walking into the MRI room near stairwell

[crystal folio]

Npc just had more game sense than you

[toxic harness]

YEAH BABY

[oblique sail]

Played the dlcs, and honestly after playing 3 Letter Triad i gotta say; it is the weirdest mission i think i ever played in any game tbh. It's still really good, i just didnt expect strange looking mannequins to be strewn about-

[visual thistle]

Stupid question but when you clear a room, do you usually let the AI bots do it or do you take point?

[finite thistle]

I'm not sure how but I somehow got the gas mask and the anti-flash goggles on at the same time in one of my loadouts

Should be physically impossible but here we are

[torpid onyx]

smh they should just invent anti flash gas masks

[dreamy rover]

i have a mod that add or change some outfit, it's a .zip files and i placed them in /paks and doesnt work

[quasi coral]

Definitely the bots, and YOU should go in very last

They are more accurate and most of the time can accurately put down anyone, though I find myself slipping in as the 3rd man sometimes

[crude prism]

you need to unzip the folder and place the paks found inside INTO the RoN pak folder

do not put the zipped folder in

[dreamy rover]

ok ok so i unzip it i'll try thank you

[craggy fable]

[toxic harness]

someone is new to pc for sure

[simple dirge]

which one? when?

[whole plume]

GA416
Optic- Any you like
Grip- Angled Grip
Utility- Either (Mission Dependent)
Muzzle- SFMB Brake

[tight hawk]

hi community

[tight hawk]

dude i thought i was the only one doing that on my second mission i litterly got the "let the AI do everything" achivement or how its called

[quasi coral]

Lmaoo

Well, I like to get in on the action myself

And I will be the point man for some split element breaches

[tight hawk]

im always scared that i get absolutely slimed by 2 suspects with pinpoint accuracy and 100% awareness

[quasi coral]

If you're a hard mode gaemer, understandable

[tight hawk]

💔

[quasi coral]

Though if you put aside the absolute hail of supression you should be able to hit em down

[tight hawk]

yea

although, i switched from the ARWC to the GA416 or how its called is that better?

[naive cloak]

lads, is gas grenade still broken? I just finished S rank on hard all the maps so I wanna check if I didn't make things harder for myself by not using it

[quasi coral]

Uhh some people say it's still broken some say it's been nerfed to the pits

[quasi coral]

Uhh, to a degree ya

The ARWC does carry more recoil, that's it to my knowledge

[naive cloak]

last time I used it a few weeks ago, still did nothing. Only once did someone cough. I honestly can't tell if it means its nerfed to hell or broken. I miss my old gas grenade. Would fill a whole room with a single well placed can :((

[floral gorge]

picky operators

[tight hawk]

budget cuts 💔

[naive cloak]

Toc, please refund my CS Gas, I miss my favourite room clearing device

[quasi coral]

Ya they were broken a while back

[torpid onyx]

wait a minute you can PICKUP dropped mags to get them back if you fast reload???

I never even realised

[torpid onyx]

I tried to get into using gas again recently instead of flashes and I've found it to be so Inconsitant now

like it feels like enemies cns be like 2 meters from it and be unaffected and plus it never actually disorients people they always manage to just evade it especially since it feels like the radius is so small now

I might have to just try use it more

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
How do you slow reload

[torpid onyx]

just single tap the reload button

double tap is fast reload

[full dune]

any tips for civs to not die in elephant

[lost inlet]

start on the left side and go faster.

[quasi coral]

Ignore the bombs until all the suspects have been neutralized

Don't stack up on doors, you're GOING to have to push in

[summer depot]

Did y'all also lose all of your progress/clothing?

[full dune]

what about suspects

do i restrain them or tell them to go to the exit

[quasi coral]

Ok, for the civilians

Uhh, if you're playing with ai, just tell em to restrain them

If you're playing alone or with a friend, just tell em to get the hell out of here (move to exit)

[full dune]

but wont they be in the area where the shooters are for a longer amount of time

[faint gazelle]

anyone knows what are the requirements for 'way out west' achievement, i've attempted it like 30 times ever since it's been out and NOTHING allows me to get it

[torpid onyx]

oh the shooting self in head word must be filtered

I was trying to do A+/S rank on hospital and tased a guy and aparently he was super stressed because he ended up shooting himself in the head and then my teammate came over comms swearing he didn't shoot him

[torpid onyx]

that's the first time I've actually had a suspect shoot themselves in many hours

[tight hawk]

time to start up ironmode im sure it wont be to hard

[weary folio]

hey is there a mode for voice chat that i don’t have to use push to talk?

[grave crown]

use macro to hold the key

[vestal peak]

hello guys are suspects with vests on relapse only found when playing in hard mode ?

[floral gorge]

depends on their budget

assume the worst

we may not know whats coming, but at least we should be prepared.

[vestal peak]

damn because I’ve done the mission several times and never encountered one but played one Time on hard mode and got blown up from behind almost instantly

[grave crown]

I thought they only found in club

[timber urchin]

i wanna play with my mate (ps5) and im on pc how do i add him?

[whole plume]

Anyone finding the frames are tanking for no reason on Valley of the Dolls?

Its the only map I have really noticed this on

[torpid onyx]

me watching an NPC dome me in a single shot the millisecond I peak a corner from 20 meters and then proceed to miss 50 rounds on my teamate point blank within 2-5 meters

alsl why do people bring 0 less lethal on missions with arrest objectives 🙏 like atleast bring a taser or smth consistant that isn't like 1 flashbang like we're doing the flower cult mission and they're just doing any and every suspect

[gray zealot]

any tips for the post office

[thorn egret]

Uhhhh

[gray zealot]

got into the big room and got shot from every side

[thorn egret]

Take it extra
Extra
EXTRA slow

And bring flashbangs

Also clear everything around the big room before going into there

[gray zealot]

okay

[floral gorge]

bring xm250

[thorn egret]

True

[gray zealot]

whats that

[thorn egret]

Bring a Vulcan if you can

[floral gorge]

best less-than-lethal-lethal weapon. better than vks pepper ball, better than 7.62.

[thorn egret]

Beanbag?

[gray zealot]

i dont mind using lethals

[floral gorge]

low cap

7 < 100

[thorn egret]

Erm
I mean you only need one or two

Oh you mean

[floral gorge]

mind the misses

[thorn egret]

The XM250

[torpid onyx]

beanbag is goated

[floral gorge]

the mg338

[thorn egret]

Me personally
I think the Wildey is the best non lethal

[floral gorge]

or whatever the namings. the gun is quite overpowered in terms of damage. but it also behaves like pepperball

[thorn egret]

Modded gun I'm guessing

[floral gorge]

therefore it has S rank capability

yeah it was mod

bark

[thorn egret]

Only mods I tend to use are
Uhh
Actually I don't know if I use any

I mean I think I used a 2011 reskin because the 7+1 capacity on the M1911s is lame

[torpid onyx]

USP simply just better

[spiral tundra]

USP, magnum

[tight hawk]

noooo i cleared the entire twisted nerve and was boutta arrest a civ when i get 1 shot from behind

[gray zealot]

i cant find the last suspects in post office

why is this map so big😭

finallyyyyy

[quasi coral]

Don't worry, uhh

See, the suspects kill based on the timer, based on what people say, it's 120 seconds

After that, they'll start shooting, so restraining or making em run doesn't really matter

And heres a small thing : If you do ask em to move to the exit, they might get stuck on the rocks outside

So if you can't find the last civi for a bit, just check outside

You can melee them to get them to get down again(This isn't unauthorized to my knowledge)

[quasi coral]

Ikr 😭

They don't even run to you bru

[gray zealot]

valley of the dolls mission next

another child corn thing it seems like

[torpid onyx]

me watching my teammate dome the first civi he sees who was a very clear unarmed scared women with her hands near her head in the air and even if they were armed were not able to respond fast enough to be a threat

some people are so trigger happy like Im pretty sure my civillian casualty numbers in my whole career is 1

[deep patio]

Mine is like 2 and they both came from cover and sprinter full speed at me 💀

[torpid onyx]

my one was a civi whom while we were having a firefight in a doorway came full sprint thru the doorway while hugging the wall so we didn't see them before they entered the doorway into our fire

[gray zealot]

what the fuck is the basement in valley of the dolls

[torpid onyx]

bro discovered the basement

[gray zealot]

ew for fuck sake this is disgusting

[floral gorge]

thats the point

[atomic marten]

If I’m lazy and don’t wanna get shot I make them do it

[floral gorge]

everyone should to feel how it is to be a police officer. at least once

[haughty leaf]

I have a headset now.
Anyone want to play drop your PSN

[tight hawk]

I just get the soft objective and let the AI do the rest

[gray zealot]

are there dead children in those barrels

[summer sequoia]

Yes.

[quasi coral]

Unfortunately.

[quasi coral]

There is a bug where if you look at Voll for too long your entire mag goes empty and then 31 rounds will appear in Voll

It's so weird

[deep patio]

Weird

All 5 of my 20 round mags of 7.62x51mm are empty and voll has 100 gunshot wounds

[quasi coral]

Indeed, it seems all my stingers have disappeared and teleported exactly next to Voll

Oh, my flashes too, huh

This game needs some fixing it seems

[deep patio]

It seems my mags of pistol rounds are empty as well

And he has 40 more gunshot wounds of 5.7x28mm

[real peak]

I got A+ on valley of dolls and for the shirt I need B is it supposed to be on hard difficulty?

[deep patio]

Pretty sure the Hawaiian variant is an S Rank

[real peak]

Well I almost got it but last guy killed my teammate so I got A+💀

[deep patio]

You gonna need to do it again 💀

[gray zealot]

does heavy armor help or is it just for looks

[torpid onyx]

mfw my pub lobby i found literally doesn't know what picking up guns is

[torpid onyx]

literally not a single suspect in the map had their guns grabbed

doesn't the tutorial tell you how to grab evidence

[gray zealot]

i keep dying on valley of the dolls

not that its a hard level but the guards sneak up on me from behind

[viscid nexus]

i dont think so, but going ceramic does imo

[torpid onyx]

bruh I swear the Devs broke CS gas

it used to literally fill a whole room now if I guy isn't literally ontop of the canister they'll just tank it

I didn't slice a corner cos like there was gas right there and i was like surely not there's no noise no footsteps, and he would be incapped and boom guy there, weapon up and shot me

cs gas should coat the whole apartment

I might just go back to flashes/stingers

[quasi coral]

Heavy armor covers more of your body, your shoulders'n like most of your body.

While light only protects most of your chest and back, not entirely but most of it

This is assuming you cover "Full" on heavy armor and front'n back for Light

[gray zealot]

completed valley of the dolls

E rank

[quasi coral]

Heavy armor is alot better for open spaces and more "aggressive" maps like Greased Palms and such

Light armor is good for every type of situation.

[quasi coral]

What the hell did ya do bruv

[gray zealot]

shot some civs and alex voll on accident🤷‍♂️

idk it was kinda spray n pray

i just shot whoever had a gun

[quasi coral]

Guh 😭

Let yo teammates breach

[gray zealot]

they deserved it anyways

fucking pedos

[quasi coral]

Dawg the civs had NUTHIN to do with this 😭

[gray zealot]

they were at the party

enough reasoning for me

anyways elephant level now

[real peak]

btw I realised I can equip it even to its not unlocked for me

[gray zealot]

is that columbine

?!

[full dune]

wdym based on what people say, and wont they shoot them if they are restrained or they see them

[spiral tundra]

Imagine coyboy hat for S ranking rust belt

[quasi coral]

Essentially

Peoples statistics are : that in 120 seconds the shooters will start shooting people up

[full dune]

oh

but whats better to do, restrain or make them run to the exit

if you restrain them; a shooter might move to their location and kill them
if you make them run to the exit: when running to the exit, they may find a shooter

[timid vault]

do officers with more years of experience have better stats?

[quasi coral]

Make them run to the exit, in all honesty

[full dune]

why,

[timid vault]

so they cant circle back to where youve already cleared and shoot the civilians, has happened to me

[torpid onyx]

mfw my teammate doesn't check bathrooms so I spend 15 minutes searching for the last civi and he's in a light sticked room in the bathroom

[quasi coral]

So your officers don't spend time tying them up

[full dune]

ah

[quasi coral]

Just, move quick, that should be your priority

Eliminate shooters - Secure bombs - find civis

[quasi coral]

Uhh, I can't tell honestly

Either it's purely cosmetical or they get stressed less

[timid vault]

i assumed it would increase their accuracy or reaction time