👮ron-discussion

[gilded gulch]

Someone needs to make Riff raff mod for all the hands bombers

And act like I don’t no nobody 🦈🦈🦈

[spiral tundra]

Watching a 4 hour video about the lore of this game truly made me look at some missions I previously thought were more “innocent” far differently

[timber fjord]

"corrupt data found, please verify your installation"

[grizzled plover]

scariest shit ever

on my ironman run, there was a bonber running straight towards my ai

[spiral tundra]

Not on the Ironman run

[grizzled plover]

and the ai being ai, never even did anything so i shot the fucker with the beanbag shotgun

its like 90% of the game is just you relying on urself bc the 10% is just the ai letting themselves die

[spiral tundra]

Yeah I just begun my Ironman run today
On sinuous trail with no losses so far
I’m dreading elephant onwards

[warped cave]

[spiral tundra]

Greased palms onwards*

[grizzled plover]

i just finished rust belt, and i shit u not, the ai wouldnt go through any of the fucking doorways by the end section

[spiral tundra]

Which, I believe is right after sinuous trail
So rip

[grizzled plover]

yea

no

ends of the earth

[spiral tundra]

If I can get the world and hermit in one try I’ll be so happy it’s mad

[grizzled plover]

i like the watch it gives u

[spiral tundra]

Idc about the accessories
I wanna have the flex of 100%

[grizzled plover]

i heard theres one achievement thats bugged

[spiral tundra]

Ok dude HOW can the lore of thank you come again be this bad

[grizzled plover]

where u get every achievement for dark waters i think

[spiral tundra]

I heard it was way out west that was bugged

[grizzled plover]

the suspects are tied to the lore in twisted nerve, as well as the money truck thing

[grizzled plover]

that too, just dont ever put ur magnum away

use nothing but the magnum it worked for me

[crude rune]

i just open doors for my crew. or i kick them down

[spiral tundra]

And the fact an employee is responsible for the whole thing

After a fit of rage

With a co worker

[grizzled plover]

yea

he just wanted the dudes to rob the place

[spiral tundra]

Co worker pranked his sandwich so he went to a shady group and told them

You can see the manager keep a tally or smth who knows about the truck times and he’s there

[grizzled plover]

and then the manager has his head blown off

[spiral tundra]

And the veteran who tried to stop it but his pistol jammed

[grizzled plover]

prob sig

[spiral tundra]

Nah it’s Glock

[grizzled plover]

dang

bad rep

[spiral tundra]

Apparently the mangers wife who’s calling him, apparently they had an argument before he left late for work, and she’s ringing him repeatedly. Which means the final conversration they had was an argument

[grizzled plover]

yea

pretty sad

all the more reason to blow every suspect's head off

[spiral tundra]

I mean they seem quite scared, if you just look at them with a mirror when they haven’t seen you they’re practically shaking

[gentle pollen]

Ok the mission ideas of march who are the 3 suspects that we have to capture I keep on handcuffing 3 enemies but it keeps on saying that the objective is not complete ?

[grizzled plover]

im not sure, i just arrest everyone

[gentle pollen]

I always arrest 3 criminals but they never say the objective is complete 😭😭😭

[languid dagger]

So I beat ready or not and got the platinum is there any reason to keep playing?

[spiral tundra]

Friends
The game has good replayability aswell in general

[languid dagger]

I don't know I beat it 3 times and the replay value is drained from me

[amber dock]

They have to be alive. Tying up dead ones don’t count

[languid dagger]

I love the game and I wanna pick it up again but I have no reason to play it

And i turn it off after 20 minutes every time

[solemn patio]

Ngl we need a colt monitor

[languid dagger]

What fov should I play?

[spiral tundra]

I just use the base FOV

Btw what FOV is actually closest to what you’d see IRL

[amber dock]

120 depending on how far your head is on the stock of your rifle

[spiral tundra]

120? Dang

Thought it would be less..

[wind phoenix]

I would love old old guns being added. Like Thompsons or M1 Garands or Colt Monitors/BARs. Would they make sense? Not really. But man they’d be fun

[solemn patio]

YESS

[spiral tundra]

M1 garand would just put anything down instantly

.30-06 is no joke

[solemn patio]

its a game, dont be too hard-assed abt it

[wind phoenix]

Well to be fair it is a mil-sim so there is supposed to be a degree of realism in it

[stoic thistle]

I want to fight a suspect with a blackpowder musket.

[wind phoenix]

Based

[solemn patio]

I want to be like dirty harry type shit with a .44 magnum

[wind phoenix]

Just go full cowboy mode and let me use a lever action with the revolver and go into Rust Belt

[solemn patio]

YES

[spiral tundra]

Compilation of shots missing

[velvet steeple]

I mean there is a BAR in-game

[trim dirge]

add a flamethrower

[solemn patio]

The colt monitor would whoop ass in relapse LOL

[velvet steeple]

But I would be hyped at us getting a HCAR (modern BAR) as the new largest round

7.62x51 has had its time

.30-06 needs in

[solemn patio]

Hear me out, AWM?

[wind phoenix]

Give me a .50 cal

[solemn patio]

.338 Lapua Magnum

I want an AW50 lowkey

[spiral tundra]

When barret 82

[velvet steeple]

maybe if they add the sniper feature from the old trailer

[wind phoenix]

Yeah I think sniper stuff could be really cool

[spiral tundra]

I wanna carry around a Barrett and go flying backwards when I shoot

[solemn patio]

Imagine being able to spawn as a sniper

[spiral tundra]

Break my shoulder from shooting

[stoic thistle]

What if the suspect is the one with the musket?

[spiral tundra]

Nah they got mods to make it always headshot dw

[solemn patio]

The barrett has a brake usually, also it has a reciprocating barrel, reducing alot of the recoil

[solemn patio]

WTF is bro shooting??? A anti tank sniper rifle

[wind phoenix]

Line battles in Ready or Not when??? Cmon get on it Kam

[solemn patio]

The AW50 is a true shoulder breaker

[spiral tundra]

3 pings 🙏

[stoic thistle]

The LSPD and the November City Police are one in the same.

[golden trellis]

guys how do i unlock the emperor? do i just keep playing the gas station map on casual and keep firing officers once they unclock a new trait?

[wind phoenix]

I got it casually just playing through the game. Hire a new trait for each slot. If you get a repeat. Fire him

[spiral tundra]

Nah it’s an achievement lol 😭

We got emperor carter over here saying he’s the senate

[vernal sand]

are those half open vents some kinda easter egg

[spiral tundra]

No you can through grenades through them, or some fully open ones AI can crawl through

[slim crown]

anybody know how when I’m playing with a friend and I have a bunch of mods but he doesn’t and he can’t see any of my mods (weapons gore etc) is there a way to change this

[vernal sand]

ohh thank you!

[cedar estuary]

any short term fixes for multiplayer lobby disconnecting?

[golden trellis]

guys how do i change and officers trait?

[jovial lagoon]

Nope, get a better PC (?

[spiral tundra]

You have to pick a trait from one when you get one
Once chosen you can’t change unless they resign/die or you fire them

[wicked charm]

I think a Scorpion would be a pretty interesting gun to have as an option for SMGs.

[cedar estuary]

My PC is fine. Trying to play with a friend on xbox and we haven't had issues until the final mission. Now he can't join my lobby at all without getting kicked.

[jovial lagoon]

Tell him to get a better Xbox (?

Duh

[cedar estuary]

🤣 How helpful, thank you.

[jovial lagoon]

No problem, always happy to help new players enjoy our beutiful community and game, next question

[rancid ivy]

I FINALLY BEAT THE GAME WITH MY HOIMES

[spiral tundra]

Nice

[solemn patio]

Tbh we need a glock 17

[next sigil]

How do I tell the AI to reload?

They just rush into a room with 1 bullet in the map, proceed to shoot that singular bullet, and die because they're now fighting a guy with an AK with their pistol

[late gorge]

im playing relapse and a civilian got stuck in the wall…i cant finish the mission

[jovial lagoon]

You can shoot to incap him

[late gorge]

i shot him in the head….

i legit forgot u can incap them…

well an e rank is an e rank i guess, my entire team died except for me

[next sigil]

Relapse is one of the buggiest maps in the game

it happens

[toxic harness]

buggiest?

[wind phoenix]

I’m trying to S rank Hide and Seek and I’m so upset I had the final four suspects in a line to arrest and the stupid AI teammate decided to arrest the one furthest away from us so he walked past and turned his back on three suspects and so OF COURSE one decides to get back up and pull a gun and before I can even beanbag the guy he manages to shoot and kill another suspect

[desert island]

always tell suspects to face other way

so they dont kno if u look away from them

[grizzled plover]

i give up on the 100%

this hard difficulty pmo

[solemn patio]

Real!

[grizzled plover]

well, im back at greased palms and neon tomb so i can get it to count for "im too old"

bc apparently i need to complete every objective so it can count

[summer sequoia]

sometimes i like to lie down in the bath with the lights off and pretend im in the womb

[wind phoenix]

I did. And since the officer decided to run straight past him. Then the suspect was staring at my guy in the back and decided to get up to try and shoot him

[grizzled plover]

yea, atp im just considering that the achievements are just bullshit not to mention that one of them is completely fucking bugged

[quasi coral]

If you wait a bit, they'll reload eventually

To my knowledge, they'll reload if the code hits that they have under 10 - 5 rounds

[grizzled plover]

no i give up, this shit is stupid

no i cant, i dont have the patience to do this shit

i look around a corner im dead in half a second

gameplan is to not do this shit

[desert island]

ur mistake was looking around corner

m32flash supremacy

[high jasper]

Can I shoot a civillian with a beanbag and be fine?

[desert island]

just not in the head

or if they already surrendered

[grizzled plover]

ur right

[high jasper]

oh so like if they dont wanna get down i can shoot them and be fine?

[desert island]

yeah u can shoot them as much as u want as long as its not in the head or if they already gave up

[high jasper]

bet tyty

[bleak dirge]

Need another hotfix i havent been able to play this shit for two weeks because of the constant fucking crashes

[grizzled plover]

right when i had the mission done, my fucking ai had to kill the guy we needed to arrest

[haughty oriole]

come on void drop the mission where the hand attacks the police station already

[green cloud]

wrong chat, sorry

[grizzled plover]

i managed to do more

i may have overreacted, my apologies

[high jasper]

How much area does CS gas affect

[grizzled plover]

i heard it covers more than a stun grenade

[desert island]

m32gas m320gas is 3meters wide

m32 m320flash sting is 10meters wide

cs gas nade is 4.5meters wide

flash nade is 10meters wide
stinger nade is 12meters wide

[grizzled plover]

oh dang guess i heard wrong

[dreamy crow]

Where is the soft objective for relapse?

[grizzled plover]

i dont think there is any

the only objectives besides the usual are arrest that one dude and disarm the bombs

[heady acorn]

For iron man trophy do I have to find everything in all missions or can I soft complete

[woeful elk]

why is my judge so quiet,,, 💔 he spoke normally before the update but now i can barely hear him

[analog cave]

Soft

[woeful elk]

also i havent played in like 3 weeks so idk how long this has like been a thing but its annoying to me

[dreamy crow]

I just finished the game…

[high jasper]

Can cs gas kill if the guy is in there too long?

[dreamy crow]

Like for the first time, I’m a new player

[crude prism]

Yeah, but it takes a ridiculous amount of time.

It's 0.2dmg a second on anyone not immune to it

[high jasper]

lmao so people have like 100 health as a base right?

[desert island]

i think it was like 320 but if u lose 160 hp u fall unconscious

then if u lose 320 u die

[crude prism]

Base suspect is 160 to incap and another 160 to die.

Players have 160 to die

SWAT AI have 250 to die

[desert island]

i like to tap civs wit 7.62 so i can tie them faster

[high jasper]

holy fk why doesnt pepperball work im doing non lethal how do i get rid of a hostage guy

[desert island]

nade

[dreamy crow]

I just finished the game and it was something else

Having to close the doors was the real gut punched

[crude prism]

headshot 4 times, which is more than the beanbag can do against them

[desert island]

just dont close the doors

[grizzled plover]

playing relapse on hard, least i have the flash GL

or stun gl rather

[toxic harness]

The more edits I watch, the idea behind the game is just perfect

[tulip spear]

so, I fulfilled all the objectives on Ideas of March, full scores on all the usual stuff, no penalties applied, I got an A+. How? Did a suspect shoot a civilian and they just didn't track it?

[toxic harness]

Either a suspect was killed, forget to collect the final evidence aka dropped weapons, or lost some points for breaking ROE

[tulip spear]

but thats the thing, the mission ended by itself, without a vote

TOC said, gg, come home

[toxic harness]

So a suspect was killed then

If you incapacitated one of the suspect, it still counts as a failed S rank

[tulip spear]

all my boys had pepperball launchers

[toxic harness]

It could be a crossfire from their own bullets or fell into their own trap

[tulip spear]

OHH. So a C2 charge that knocks them down doesn't count for full points? Because that can incap as well iirc

[toxic harness]

Yeah that will ruin a S rank

[tulip spear]

fUCK

[toxic harness]

Don't listen to folks that say "Incap can count as s rank" which it still counts as a kill

Although not a confirmed kill like no way to revive them, but rather a failed S rank attempt

[tulip spear]

okay, thank you for your knowledge

maybe its time for a more relaxed ROE mod then

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-gif-26051005

[toxic harness]

No. We must stick to vanilla

[wraith pawn]

Are some achievements bugged? I can’t get “Say Hello To My Little Friend” or the lockpicking one, it just won’t let me progress

[tulip spear]

butbutbutbutbut we don't negotiate with terrorists!!!11

[desert island]

the terrorists will accept all my demands or no deal

[tulip spear]

I've had some weird achievement stuff happen to me too

[tulip spear]

Sigma officer

[wraith pawn]

Any luck with it randomly fixing itself?

[tulip spear]

nop 🙁

[wraith pawn]

Awesome lmao

[toxic harness]

Hearing the main Neon Tomb OST after turning off the dj music is more eerie

[toxic harness]

It's not bugged. Just use the regular M320 at suspects, not civilians

[grizzled plover]

maybe its a skill issue but its my what 5th fucking time trying to complete relapse with the GL??

[gray wren]

Guys why multiplayer not working?

[toxic harness]

Balls

[plain raptor]

M32?

[grizzled plover]

yea

[plain raptor]

What are your officers carrying and how are you failing?

[hallow hatch]

I love almost everything about this game except the AI, it’s so stupidly unfair iswtg

[plain raptor]

kinda like real life which is unfair, let's think on that for a bit

[hallow hatch]

its unfair in a way that it doesn’t make sense

[plain raptor]

Sadly, the cops in these situations are at a disadvantage

either because they need to enter and they suspects are essentially camping, or because they need to first try to apprehend and not kill anybody

A friend of mine used to hate Dirt Rally. It's not that it's hard on its own, rallying is much harder than circuit racing.

[grizzled plover]

its fine i did it

[hallow hatch]

I peeked the door, no enemy was at the door or could see the door but somehow they were still able to know that I was there. Their accuracy through the gaps are godly level, sometimes it literally says that they’re incapacitated but magically get up when I’m not looking at them and blow up or shoot me

[plain raptor]

Nice, if you're new to the game, see how you keep failing and think of the mechanism behind that. If you don't check corners and just turn them, that's a bad habit, etc. etc.

[toxic harness]

skill check

[hallow hatch]

I understand it’s unfair for cops and that’s not the issue, that’s what make the game good but crackheads should not be able to have the aim of an ex-military

[hallow hatch]

Okay mr Timmy tough knuckle Billy badass

[plain raptor]

They can indeed play dead, it's also an achievement. You need to restrain everybody, dead or alive, just for this reason.

[plain raptor]

Guns are easy to handle

[toxic harness]

Just call me a dumbass ffs no need to over complicate damn

[toxic harness]

I forget that mechanic exists lowkey

[hallow hatch]

Okay fine that part is understandable then, I just don’t like their accuracy tbh, it’s almost pin-point

[grizzled plover]

im not new lol but ty

[plain raptor]

Heh, sorry

[toxic harness]

Yeah as he already got "I'm too old for this" in #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[plain raptor]

Basically you need to be suspicious of everybody and assume that they are holding every angle possible in the level

I don't suggest checkinge every corner with the Mirrorgun, but you can quick peek and then get back into cover, just to take a quick look

[toxic harness]

Some suspects are easy to identify... no racism or anything but sometimes they're very bold of themselves

[hallow hatch]

Yeah I can handle that it’s just their accuracy is just too crazy, unless the enemies are ex-military or secret services

[plain raptor]

Don't go any further, I got banned from the Rust server for way less

[hallow hatch]

But iswtg the mission where u have to arrest the crazy ex-military dude is somehow sm easier than dealing with regular store robbers or crackheads

[plain raptor]

Have you played any of the levels with ex-military dudes?

[toxic harness]

A good amount of missions had you go against secret agents and ex military folks. But again we are also ex military folks became good

[grizzled plover]

all good

[hallow hatch]

I played the dude with the ghili suit i forgot the name, another mission is buy twice smth smth

Those are somehow sm easier than dealing with crackheads

Or female cult members from that one mission

[plain raptor]

Crackheads are also "twitchy" and unpredictable. I don't know if Void has also higher HP for them, since if they're on dope, they could have higher pain tolerance.

[hallow hatch]

I feel like crackheads or regular criminals should be dangerous as in they are not trustworthy and very unpredictable in their moments and behaviors but not godly aim

[hallow hatch]

Yeah this part is totally valid

[plain raptor]

Those for example are not that dangerous, they don't have armor and they seem to not push you this much. I think they scale the aggressiveness and aim skill based on "lore".

[hallow hatch]

Its just their aim, iswtg it made me feel like I was playing a pubg tournament game

[toxic harness]

Lethal Obsession, ghillie suit is Gerard

[toxic harness]

buy cheap buy twice*

[hallow hatch]

Yeah those 2

[plain raptor]

Lethal obsession is one of my favorite missions because sometimes somebody gets stuck in the crawl space on the first floor

[hallow hatch]

And the mission with those members with the sun masks, the ex-military lady is not dangerous at all while her followers or maids whatever are so dangerous

[plain raptor]

there's only 3 mfs in this level and they still get stuck

[toxic harness]

Sad that Gerard got a vasectomy for censorship

[hallow hatch]

Mine is the first mission and diddy house

[toxic harness]

That would be Carriers of the Vine which none of them has armor btw

[plain raptor]

I got no picture of how he was before, so no issue for me personally

[toxic harness]

It's him and his little Gerard out. But with censorship he at least wore shorts

[hallow hatch]

Yeah they’re pretty fragile but it’s their aim that’s the issue and the way that they can track/notice you instantly

[toxic harness]

Well the clap noises from your ass keeps alerting them smh

[plain raptor]

lmao, imaging being one of these cops, not only you're risking your life trying to stop these lunatics, they don't even have the decency to put on at least an underwear

[toxic harness]

I watched so many police arrests and they be arresting men in diapers that is covered in shit btw

I would quit immediately if I do that as an officer

[crude prism]

exploding u

[plain raptor]

That's bonkers

[hallow hatch]

Playing commander mode is hard because those friendly npcs are pretty useless and me personally I only use them for breaching, securing evidences and npcs, flash. When I play with my friends it’s only 2 players but it’s sm more easier and efficient so ig it’s mostly the ai is the issue and I’ve read other Reddit posts and my brother who has RoN also said the AI piss him off sometimes

[plain raptor]

They've been having issues since the console update, I believe, they're not like they were before the console version release and after their overhaul

[hallow hatch]

I would not be able to hold my laugh and I’ll be like “Mr poopy pants you thought you could’ve ran 💀”

[distant cape]

Where'd you get this?

[hallow hatch]

I’m on pc so idk what’s the different between console and pc

[toxic harness]

which map has no armor suspects besides 4U Gas and Chico's?

[plain raptor]

the AI code is the same between all versions, hence why the sqaud is kinda bad for all of us

[hallow hatch]

Ah

[crude prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

Le spreadsheet (spoilers for game mechanics and data spam)

[hallow hatch]

Well well well it’s always those console peasants

[plain raptor]

thx a lot for this

[toxic harness]

PEASANTS?! WHO IN THE RIGHT SIDE FUCK YOU THINK YOU CAN CALL US ONE?

[plain raptor]

I'm sorry my lord

[distant cape]

big stuff 👍🏻

[hallow hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/salvy-most-interesting-man-dos-equis-shake-it-off-you-sir-gif-15009229

[crude prism]

Gas, 23MB/s, Twisted Nerve, Ends of the Earth, Greased Palms, Rust Belt, Port, Dorms

(a couple guys on hunger strike do have armor, it's just shitty armor)

[toxic harness]

do you think backpacks actually function as armor or pure cosmetic like L3A Helmet for Mindjot

[hallow hatch]

It would be hella cool if there’s a mission to fight against bank robbers, casino, mafias, a rogue LSPD squad, etc

[crude prism]

I'd post a news article about this, but I'd probably get beaned for it.

TLDR, dude makes his girlfriend shoot him while he wears a bunch of thick books to prove it works.

(it don't)

[toxic harness]

OH I REMEMBER THAT ONE NEWS WHERE THEY USED A FUCKING DEAGLE

WHY A FUCKING DEAGLE FOR THIS TEST?????

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/darwin-charles-gif-18451809

[toxic harness]

But yeah maybe a 9mm could kinda stop it?

I know 22 may not penetrate that low "armor"

[crude prism]

Sure. But I prefer to microdose ceramic tile into my cereal every morning, soon I will be able ot tank shots like juan wick

[toxic harness]

Me frfr

[plain raptor]

basically

[crude prism]

Gerard coming to kill you with his homemade dragon scale armor (it's sheet metal)

[plain raptor]

Somebody post the fuck around - find out chart again

[plain raptor]

[toxic harness]

The Hand when they learn that you can just throw the bomb vests at swat officers instead of running to them to continue outnumbering them

[high jasper]

What can pierce the balllistic shields?

[toxic harness]

None but your side and legs are exposed if at a bad angle

[high jasper]

oof is there anything i could do about it?

[toxic harness]

Legs - Crouch or block your legs with objects

Sides - Constantly face at the enemy to protect your whole body, or wear Heavy Vest with Full coverage

[high jasper]

tyty

[grizzled plover]

so i pretty much 100% the game, except the last two are bugged.. (from house to home and getting your sea legs)

[toxic harness]

Yeah I fucking hate those

I just only need Big Shell Specialist for Dark Waters, but my House to Home is hella bugged

[grizzled plover]

same

not sure what to do

[toxic harness]

Just don't bother

[grizzled plover]

yea

now ima just join public matches and play helldivers since it comes out in abt 7 hrs

alr downloaded it

[toxic harness]

Finna play Fortnite cuz GORILLAZ IS IN!!

GORILLAZ IS IN FORTNITE! I REPEAT THEY ARE IN FORTNITE NOW!

[plain raptor]

The future is coming on

FINALLY, SOMEONE LET ME OUT OF MY CAGE

[toxic harness]

RELEASE ME!!!!

[high jasper]

i shot someone with pepperball pistol why arent they getting down

[toxic harness]

It's just them resisting

[high jasper]

so shoot them more?

[toxic harness]

either that or use primary

[crude prism]

helldivers peak, hope it pops off on xbox 🫡

[gilded oar]

wrong channel/server

I guess?

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-cat-insane-cat-deranged-cat-gif-2528630332348525147

[spiral tundra]

[gilded oar]

[plain raptor]

If I get wallbanged one more time like it's CS 1.6 or MW2 I'll lose my shit

How do they even know I'm behind the door?

[spiral tundra]

If you peek it they may see
Or flashlights coming through the cracks in the doorway

[plain raptor]

I approach it to mirror it and they turned the door into swiss cheese

They weren't even aggro

[spiral tundra]

AI team with flashlights?

[plain raptor]

No, IR lasers

[spiral tundra]

Idk then

[crude prism]

depending on the map (AI skill) they are more sensitive to audio

suspects CAN hear you walking unless you do the slow walk or crouch

[quasi coral]

I noticed that

Your thumb clips into the PEQ-15 on some guns(When using the Combat grip or Angled Grip)

It's noticeable when using high ready

[tired jungle]

attachments break the holding positions for a lot of guns

[marsh lark]

Gerard not realizing that I am probably going to bring a frag grenade on his ass

[narrow zenith]

Why are the mindjot security team some of the most cracked enemies in the game

[plain raptor]

Talk about taking their job way too seriously

That's the one level I don't think the enemies/setup makes sense. Like, you're only security for a company/place of business, you're not involved in the business itself, why would you shoot at the police?

[wide verge]

They were attacked by some guys in police disguise before

[plain raptor]

I know they say this when arrested, but I don't believe them

[stoic thistle]

It's one thing if it's street cops, but how do you mistake a swat team with an MRAP as criminals in disguise?

[plain raptor]

"it's milsim bro"

"He burned my patch"

[narrow zenith]

I haven’t played this game for long, but they definitely do feel like the most difficult-ish enemies to go against. They’re just so chaotic, a house full of crackheads was more calm than it was going through the data center.

[spiral tundra]

It’s in the briefing bro

[stone bay]

When are we gonna get a fix for the CS Gas cause patch 02 didnt fix it

[floral peak]

Good day officers

[rapid steppe]

i can play on some maps but when i want to get in the the neon map the game closed itself

do anyone know how to deal with it?

[quartz patio]

What platform are you playing on?

[rapid steppe]

steam

[quartz patio]

What's your launch option?

[rapid steppe]

dx12

[quartz patio]

Change it to DX11 and see if anything improves

[rapid steppe]

sure

still

nothing changed

the game closed itself

[quartz patio]

How long have you had this issue

[rapid steppe]

just 3 hours ago

[quartz patio]

Try verifying the integrity of the game files but stay on Dx11 since generally dx12 just seems to be more unstable

[full dune]

alt f4 should do the trick

[quartz patio]

Yo this is genius

[rapid steppe]

sure let me try

[mellow kite]

Tips for S rank relapse I just can't do it tried it for over 50 times

[plain raptor]

Am I to assume you mostly fail during the basement part of the level?

[mellow kite]

No

most of the time only 2 suspects

I fail at the first bomb site

[plain raptor]

What happens usually?\

[rapid steppe]

@quartz patio it dosn't work

[mellow kite]

teamates get killed

[plain raptor]

Take a look at how. If you get jumped by suspects coming into the room where the team is, you need to be more mindful of how you place them. If they die during breaching, it's probably an issue with the tech/order you used and by extention, their equipement.

[spiral tundra]

It’s not your fault if they get headshotted as soon as they open before they even throw a flash

[quartz patio]

idk what else u can do, sorry - try posting in #💻tech-support

[rapid steppe]

thanks for your help

[quartz patio]

np! hope u can get it solved

[ocean cargo]

Two things you need to do to help. A) wedge the small stairwell door between the two bathrooms and than go up the main stairwell after the first floor cleared. When you get upstairs wedge the one set of double doors directly in front of you so you can push into the bomb room without getting flanked

Just flash the fuck out of that bomb room and move in relapse s tier sucks ass it’s rough I was so close but had a single guy die on the last floor of the second building 😭

[plain raptor]

☝️ Essentially this. Wedges are critical in this level. Just don't use them all before reaching the basement/bottom floor. They enjoy wondering around and the darkness doesn't help you.

[ocean cargo]

The ai definitely struggles with some of the rooms and hallways

[spiral tundra]

Stinger better there

[plain raptor]

I've found that going up the staircase which is at the far back of the ground floor if you enter from the parking lot, puts you at a big disadvantage, because the double doors at the top offer no cover on either side. There are a lot of crash carts and equipment in the hallway and usually the officers get gunned down easily.

[deep patio]

I literally never use flashes

Either Stinger or Gas it like you're a war criminal

I do prefer gas because I'm a little worried about raising suspect stress early on

[wide verge]

Gas is useless

Atm

[deep patio]

Aren't the changes affecting hard difficulty?

[plain raptor]

Gas is generally bugged, it has been since the console update.

[wide verge]

Right

[plain raptor]

It has the effect radius of a marble

Unless somebody had made a gigantic marble for some reason

[wide verge]

A fart has a bigger area of effect

[worthy cobalt]

That's a better weapon than the CS gas after the most recent update

[ocean cargo]

Not reliable enough unfortunately trust me I’ve been finding that out the hard way lately. Plus ballistic masks are nice

[deep patio]

Mhmm alright then I'll go back to a flash+stinger combo

[deep patio]

Now that you mention it is weirdly unreliable 😭

[plain raptor]

It doesn't even register for the M320 achievement, it's totally messed up

Stingers and FB are the way to go until the patch

[spiral tundra]

Does it gotta be C+ for I’m too old for this?
I got a ton of Hard D’

[pine canyon]

I bet you do

[amber dock]

B is more safe grade minimum and all objectives passed

[plain raptor]

"Got him!"

[plain raptor]

Apparently yes

[toxic harness]

Yeah it has to be C+

[spiral tundra]

Uh my game just crashed mid Ironman mission
Does that end it

[amber dock]

No it shouldn’t

But you will have to start over on whatever map it was

[plain raptor]

Are you doing the quitting method Hayden or are you taking the high road?

[spiral tundra]

Doesn’t matter I didn’t even enter the building yet lol

[spiral tundra]

Ima just go for it
I’m not really going for hermit first try, but if I can it’ll be cool

I’m on sinuous trail no deaths but they’ll probably die later

[plain raptor]

Good luck

[spiral tundra]

Thanks

I’ve got all my dudes on heavy armour with SA-58s, shotguns and mkVs

Hopefully they’ll put anything down in a couple of rounds

Some dudes just mag dumping

[plain raptor]

[digital oriole]

What if I put on my iron man suit and do the missions?

[toxic harness]

it would not count

[digital oriole]

But I’m iron man

[toxic harness]

You are not Tony Stark

You did not make a suit with scraps in a cave

fake ass Stark

[digital oriole]

I did it with a box of scraps in the swat armoury

[toxic harness]

nuh uh

[digital oriole]

I’m swat stark

[verbal meteor]

did they reduce the suspects on elephant? when i did a s run there was only 2?

[toxic harness]

There should be 4 (standard) - 5 (hard) suspects

[verbal meteor]

there was 2 on hard mode apparently

[toxic harness]

Guess you got a very lucky one lol. But again elephant is pretty easy with minimual rng reliant

[verbal meteor]

ahh gotcha xD

[digital oriole]

Never seen that little enemies in my life

Unless I’ve shot them

[toxic harness]

I mean Lethal Obsession has 3 enemies no matter what

[verbal meteor]

yeah i'm trying to get the "i'm too old for this" achievement

[toxic harness]

Lethal Obsession may be the easiest if the user has a fucking brain for door traps

[verbal meteor]

the spider was a hell for me to s rank on hard

[toxic harness]

The spider was pretty simple for me

You can try naming each missions and Ill tell you if it's easy, simple, a bit of kick, and difficult

[verbal meteor]

hmmm

well i know neon tomb is gonna be a nightmare/hell

[stone bay]

Greased palms

[spiral tundra]

I haven’t got a clue where this final dude is

[toxic harness]

Neon Tomb has a kick

[toxic harness]

Easy with good team but it's challenging

[digital oriole]

What if I go into the mission and smoke a blunt wotu the suspects do you think I could slip handcuffs on them when they fall asleep?

[toxic harness]

lmao

[digital oriole]

Smart right?

[pine canyon]

They’d have to censor the blunt

[verbal meteor]

the most annoying thing about neon tomb is the self destruct bombers not surrendering even tho my ai teammates are spraying the pepperballs at them

[spiral tundra]

Nvm bro was the dude magdumping in the toilet so he couldn’t shoot me lol

[toxic harness]

You have to be far away

[verbal meteor]

ohhh oka gotcha

[toxic harness]

They will never surrender and will try to attack you if youre close

[verbal meteor]

gotchu

[spiral tundra]

Istg if my team die on ends of the earth

[toxic harness]

I would laugh

[spiral tundra]

So 3 of the suspects were downstairs and ALL shot us on entry, so they all got slaughtered by my team with SA-58 and Benneli shotguns

Dude how many suspects are there meant to be
We’ve killed 5 and there’s still more

[plain raptor]

Dumb question, do suspects ever run out of rounds?

[spiral tundra]

There were 6
And they all got killed
Yeah my team may leave

[amber dock]

Uh nope

[plain raptor]

"Allllrighty then!"

[amber dock]

They either kill you before you see them ever run out or you smoke them before they run out

[spiral tundra]

Dang my team only anxious and 1 stressed after I killed all suspects

[toxic harness]

WHY DID YOU DO LETHAL ON ENDS OF THE EARTH

[spiral tundra]

THEY ALL SHOT ME ON ENTRY

3 RAN OUT AND PEPPERED ME WHEN I OPENED THE DOOR

[toxic harness]

BRUH

[spiral tundra]

Then the rest tried shooting my shield dudes who had MkVs and aim bot

Greased palms..

[digital oriole]

[spiral tundra]

I’m gonna crash out if I die

[digital oriole]

Crash out now

[spiral tundra]

(Which I will)

[toxic harness]

Greased Palms, do lethal

Some missions you should do non lethal

[spiral tundra]

My whole team is already wearing full coverage armour

And me

[digital oriole]

Believe I went from a 0-11 game to a 12-12 comeback in a cs2 match before

[toxic harness]

wimo

[digital oriole]

You got it bro

[spiral tundra]

What 😭

[plain raptor]

Exactly, fuck that level

[toxic harness]

go light front cover only with ballistic shield. You'll thank me later

[dire kestrel]

Why isn't voice chat working in game, I'm changing the voice channels but nothings happening

[spiral tundra]

I’ve already got full armour on

And I have shield

[toxic harness]

If PC, it's push to talk

[dire kestrel]

I'm on PS5

[toxic harness]

make sure you changed to the game vc channel

[digital oriole]

Just ps party

[dire kestrel]

I change the VOIP channel many times but nothing is working

[pine canyon]

Have you tried putting your controller in the microwave for 5 minutes

[toxic harness]

true

[spiral tundra]

So far on greased palms I’ve cleared start area, office and outside
And I’ve killed 3 on the loading bay but

I’ve also arrested FISA dude and Maria

And a hostage got executed how great

Uh bro

I JUST GOT KILLED THROUGH MY SHIELD

I literally directly facing this guy while crouching with nothing else around me and he’s below me like on stairs

And I’m in the office

[toxic harness]

bro did not face the guy fully

[spiral tundra]

I did

[toxic harness]

nah cuz they can also go for your side

[spiral tundra]

He’s standing on the top of the stairs, and I’m in the office facing stairs

And also my team is just standing there the whole time

He’s literally below me so he can’t see my head or shoulders either

And he’s like 10-15 metres away

[toxic harness]

they're pro like average siege players

[spiral tundra]

Welp
Ig im leaving that to last

[toxic harness]

Zamn

[spiral tundra]

If my team decided they wanted to shoot their rifle it maybe helped

[plain raptor]

Maybe they messed up the Active Reload

[spiral tundra]

They all shot like a total of 5 bullets

I was the only one killing there I was practically solo

Time to go and do I’m too old for this

[plain raptor]

They be stressed fr fr

[haughty oriole]

Everyday I'm shuffling

[crude rune]

Which weapons are pepperballed

[pine canyon]

The ones that don’t look like normal guns lol

[toxic harness]

AR, SMG, Pistol

[wicked lance]

shotgun aswell

[toxic harness]

No they use beanbag. Different projectile

[wicked lance]

ah sorry new at the game

[crude rune]

Okay.

I got one beanbag shotgun in my group

Pepperball ain’t doing much to the guys in neon tomb

[toxic harness]

Pepperball overall isn't useful

[crude rune]

I want an S rank

[toxic harness]

Beanbag and M32A1 are better in non lethal

[crude rune]

To make up for my mistakes in using casual on accident

[toxic harness]

bruh

[crude rune]

It was 2:00 am I was tired and I was not thinking straight

[spiral tundra]

Yeah it won’t do much at all

The hand have high morale

[vestal mauve]

Still no fixes eh

[spiral tundra]

Anyone know which groups of enemies have the most morale and the least in game

[misty edge]

I think if you have a few friends at least one should have pepper ball

[toxic harness]

No, all flashes or 1-2 beanbag

[spiral tundra]

Launcher and beanbag are both a million times better

[misty edge]

Vasss

I bring like 2 reload for shotgun and rest flashes / wedges and get my friend to carry pepper ball :3

[crude rune]

I got an entire team comprised of that now

It… kinda sucks.

[spiral tundra]

The AI aren’t great with it

[crude rune]

Non lethal sucks S rank ain’t worth it

[languid creek]

Only worth it if you want cosmetics, it’s definitely way less fun.

[buoyant pecan]

Shoutout to Tubarao

[spiral tundra]

So apparently guards on VOD eat 3 rounds of 7.62x51 ap to the chest

[ionic gale]

they are NOT running Level 4 plates, I refuse to believe that

[spiral tundra]

It’s hard mode so

[old pivot]

Interesting how different the hand that shows up at neon is from the hand that shows up at the hospital. Notably, some of the hand in the hospital seem to express reservations and remorse, enough to even automatically surrender at times

[spiral tundra]

Amount of times I’ve died while securing stuff due to AI not shooting back

[toxic harness]

balls

[uncut widget]

🫃

[late marten]

quick question. can bananas teleport?

[pine canyon]

It depends on the temperature

[toxic harness]

Yeah but it's like trying to teleport bread

[spiral tundra]

I’m lit going in circles on narcos tryna find last suspect

Doing beat cop achievement

[late marten]

and what temperature would you suggest for me to practice banana teleports?

[crude rune]

I don’t want cosmetics because I think my current outfit is hella fresh. Plus I will never get all of them anyways

[pine canyon]

63 Kelvin

[spiral tundra]

Bro how didn’t I get beat cop
I did it all with a pistol and AI threw no grenades

[late marten]

if my calculations are right, 63 kevlin is -210,15 celsius?

[spiral tundra]

Bro how is my emperor achievement on 0% when I’ve got most of them on commander

[digital oriole]

Guys if I give them a gold bar each if they surrender do you think they would?

I bring a stack of butter just in case

[spiral tundra]

Nah

[digital oriole]

I hope I’m not the only one who got the reference

[digital oriole]

Double it

[pine canyon]

Correct

[floral peak]

Good evening officers

[spiral tundra]

Evening

[charred birch]

I swear the dialogue from the hand members in Relapse is so weird because it doesn’t sound like they’re looking for Quadamah at all

They’re going "Where are you you little shit" or when you arrest them they can say "That boy killed our people in cold blood"

I’m mostly confused about the latter because what are they on about

[pine drum]

I feel like tear gas was nerfed

[charred birch]

They said it was fixed but it still seems pretty ineffective so I think either it’s been nerfed or it’s still not working properly

Because when the console update released they didn’t work ; like at all except once in a blue moon

Now it’s a little better but the radius seems smaller than a flashbang’s so…

[spiral tundra]

They’re probs going insane icl

[charred birch]

I kinda feel like they changed the plot in some way or something

[spiral tundra]

They’re probably imagining someone who they can blame

[charred birch]

Because it feels like Relapse originally wasn’t related to Quadamah but that they were looking for someone else

And i feel like it was planned for us to have to arrest one of the suspects in Elephant (probably Archie Zem)

I know it SEEMS like there’s nothing correlating Relapse to Elephant whatsoever but just hear me out

For all you know Elephant could’ve been a response to the Neon club shooting which particular targeted Arab american students since well, The Hand are Yemeni but operate in the US

[spiral tundra]

Well lore and gameplay differ
You can shoot qadamah dead in the forehead 50 times and he’ll be alive on relapse

[charred birch]

That plot was most likely dropped since well, it would’ve made elephant more controversial than it already is

But with the way the Relapse dialogue goes i feel as though whichever shooter you were meant to arrest was transferred to the hospital, and upon learning of this, remnants of The Hand attacked the hospital aiming to find and kill the said shooter

Because i don’t see why they would call Quadamah a little shit when in Neon Tomb’s trailer they literally say he’s never failed them so they probably see him as a great leader

Plus talking about how a boy killed their people in cold blood seems odd and it’s definitely not referring to the US strikes since it wasn’t a boy killing their people it was fighter jets

[charred birch]

They do in that regard but i really feel like they wanted to do something else with the plot of Relapse

Plus if they’re idle you can hear them sound remorseful and all ; idk but you’d expect them to be a little more motivated to rescue Quadamah

[charred birch]

Like to elaborate they even say "Quadamah would’ve wanted this" and the fact they say he WOULD have wanted this would imply he died at Neon, yet he didn’t ? Then there’s the "You let children die here in your own home !" or "This is no longer about war !"

[spiral tundra]

True

Bro I’d love if they made more of the evidence in the locker legible.

[charred birch]

They definitely reshuffled the plot, or the voice lines are just weird for no reason

[spiral tundra]

Or a subtitle type thing to cover it

Like on Janeys diary

[charred birch]

Most of it is if you squint your eyes but it can be hard or even impossible to properly read some of them yeah

[spiral tundra]

Idk id maybe spend time looking at evidence if i can read what the victims or suspects are writing

Ig im just gonna go look for a public lobby since I can’t talk

[languid creek]

Just watch/listen to a lore video

Blew my mind connecting all those dots fr

[spiral tundra]

I’m watching wendigoons 4 hour long one

I’m 2 hours in

[languid creek]

People were hating on that one but I thought it was solid

I get the main story but the DLCs are kinda iffy. One is just a big hurricane hits but idk how it really connects to the rest of the story.

[spiral tundra]

After playing this game with other people it becomes way more boring alone

Than it seemed at first

[old pivot]

It’s interesting, because between that and the bizarrely high chance very specific suspects have to surrender, to the point of doing it before they see you, I genuinely think it’s a sign of The Hand fracturing as some members start to feel remorse

I note that a lot of the more aimlessly angry lines, and the one where a guy seemingly spawned in surrendering, are around the children’s ward, showing that at least this branch has some reservations around killing children like the Americans did

[old pivot]

Wait it was a hate crime? Genuinely curious

[charred birch]

I mean it was definitely scrapped since nothing in Elephant itself aims at Arab American students being targeted ; but some of Relapse’s dialogue makes me think it was meant to be but it would’ve been too controversial, even for RoN

To name a few :
"That boy killed our people in cold blood !"
"What is he worth to you ?!"
"Where are you you little shit ?!"
"You let children die in your own home !"
"Quadamah would’ve wanted this"

First and third lines imply they’re looking for someone young and looking at Quadamah’s bio he was born in 1982, so…. unless the Hand was so fragmented that they turned against Quadamah which is pretty unlikely, i don’t see why they’d say this

ESPECIALLY the first line since they can’t be on about the US airstrikes in Midi, so they HAVE to be referring to something else so it makes me feel like they’re referring to one of the Elephant shooters

Hence why i believe we were meant to take most likely Archie Zem alive in Elephant, remnants of The Hand would’ve raided the hospital to kill him since he would’ve killed "their people", likely arab american students

You could argue the 4th line is just taunting the americans but considering the other lines i feel like it hints at them having a personal issue with the Elephant shooting if it targeted their ethnicity or perhaps their own family members

Now the plot is definitely NOT there anymore but it feels like they reshuffled it, but couldn’t afford to make new voice lines that aligned with the plot we currently have and just stuck with the voice lines they first came up with

Because i genuinely cannot see ANYTHING in Relapse that clearly hints at them looking for Quadamah specifically beyond the briefing and the fact that you have to arrest him

[old pivot]

Would have preferred they went with that ngl. Would be like, interesting for a game like this to explicitly grapple with racist hate crimes

[spiral tundra]

Is there anything on what happens to WCC after the shooting?

[old pivot]

I do like keeping these lines in, in a sense, because the way I headcanon it is that they’re a different, less elite branch that still have some morals intact and ALSO I maybe headcanon that Quamadah’s still a USIA asset and they found out about it

[spiral tundra]

I’m fairly sure in the promo video for this mission, right at the start some of them are already disheartened

Neon*

[sleek burrow]

Dude bring back the founders edition content pls, ill give you muh money

[narrow zenith]

I love when the game tries to say there’s not a single open lobby in the entirety of Europe on any difficulty

[spiral tundra]

Mine says there isn’t one in the world

[pine canyon]

Will we ever get an option to customize pubes like cyberpunk?

I’d like judges to be thick stripes that resemble jail bars

[charred birch]

Honestly i haven’t been able to come up with any headcanon so i just decide to ignore the dialogue which likely was about some scrapped plot 😭

[spiral tundra]

Headcanon: everybody is actually DEAD
(joke)

[tight hawk]

why is the AI on hide and seek so garbage bro

[toxic harness]

The point of founder's edition is for people who existed during it's very first version of the game

[spiral tundra]

Some of those didn’t even realise 😭 bet they regret it a lot

[toxic harness]

indeed

[spiral tundra]

Imagine looking at the versions at the time and being like “it has some cosmetics why would I need that”

[sand hull]

P320 😝

i wanna buy an airsoft one

Since legally I can’t own a gun in the UK, especially not one that doubles as a roulette wheel

[sleek burrow]

I said the content not the editon, console never got a chance to buy it, id happily give void the dollars for the cosmetics

[toxic harness]

Yeah but you know it's behind the edition right?

[solemn patio]

Isnt there a p320 in the game?

[toxic harness]

The Raider x P320? Yeah

[solemn patio]

No, I mean a regular one, chassis kits are mid

[wide verge]

229

[toxic harness]

If a regular, it's a Suspect exclusive but it's the P230

[solemn patio]

They should add a chance for it to randomly go off and shoot the wielder

[wide verge]

The M11 is the P229

[solemn patio]

Would be funny

[toxic harness]

So far we have the

• Raider x P320 (SWAT Exclusive)
• M11 Compact/P229
• P230 (Suspect Exclusive)

[grizzled plover]

so i join a public match, one guy is afk most of the round and the other dude dies

[bleak birch]

Peak online gameplay

[grizzled plover]

i had it all under control and the other guy who was afk starts killing everyone he sees, cuffed suspects and such and civs then proceeds to kill me

[spiral tundra]

Played public on stolen valor and they all died on the second door

[cunning plume]

Bro it keeps booting my friend off the game whenever he tries to join me😭✌

[spiral tundra]

They all exploded cuz they kept kicking doors in without checking

[grizzled plover]

randoms seems to have the brain capacity of a rock

[spiral tundra]

Rock is too high

[toxic harness]

I swear people are so fucking dumb

[digital oriole]

Payday collab/easter egg when

[spiral tundra]

Never

[digital oriole]

If I go in oiled up will the bullets slide off my body?

[normal cave]

fix the connectionfix the connectionfix the connectionfix the connectionfix the connectionfix the connection

[grizzled plover]

fr

im in a public match rn and this guy wanted help with s ranking relapse, and one of the randoms pushes the first bomb site solo (we spawned in the back where the cafe is) and dies

and well, like 7 enemies usually spawn there and its annoying cus they group up alot

[narrow zenith]

I’m joining public matches and just getting kicked for simply existing

[digital cipher]

yo one of my friends ask if the fps is cap at 60 or is smth wrong on his end

[amber dock]

On console it’s normal

[digital cipher]

he on pc mb i did not say that

[amber dock]

He needs to check settings and see what he’s set the FPS cap to

Also check if V sync is enabled cause then it locks FPS to whatever refresh rate their monitor is

[digital cipher]

oh word thanks bro you a real one

[solemn patio]

We lowk need a higher capacity pistol that isnt the five seven

Like a GLOCK 19X OR A GLOCK 40 (for the 10mm fun) ISTG

[grizzled plover]

lmfao i feel so bad, this dude wanted to s rank relapse, and 8/10 times the enemies got themselves killed somehow

[solemn patio]

Relapse is too damn buggy and luck based

I hate the hand dudes lowkey

[grizzled plover]

me too, they always stay in groups

that and they pack a bigass punch

not surprising tho

[digital cipher]

i wonder if they gonna be any more burst guns

[stoic thistle]

They're both cowardly terrorists and excellent shots.

[ocean cargo]

Honestly my biggest issue is when my ai squad just starts walking off on their own or just sits there getting shot

[solemn patio]

The G3 pisses
Me off

[ocean cargo]

Idk what to have them bring anymore they seem absolutely useless with the launchers and idk if I want tk bring the launcher myself because ammo with the amount of suspect there is on that map

hey where does everyone start on relapse ive been doing the underground parking lot

[rancid ivy]

Not there

[short locust]

hey guys i was playing ides of march earlier and i shot a suspect and made him surrender, as i was cuffing him he died, is this a bug or a feature?

[rancid ivy]

He lost too much blood

[short locust]

oh ok

[rancid ivy]

Yeah

[short locust]

i did shoot him near an artery so makes sense

[rancid ivy]

It can happen to you

[short locust]

yea

lol im replaying it and i found the suspect that killed me last round i shot him in the crotch n made him crawl to me to let me cuff him

[grizzled plover]

i joined a game and we started up ides of march, we brought order to chaos and i was looking around for the other objs.... i peeked a door and thought i saw no string so i opened it and got jumpscared

[ocean cargo]

jesus christ i just give up with the ai on relapse

ai unequipped his shield which has ammo with pepperball pistol to his ar which he didnt even shoot as a suspect was blasting him in the face point blank

[red dock]

how long are servers down

[candid dove]

Btw ya'll. Steam has a maintenance between 6pm est and 9pm est. So if you got kicked, that's why

Usually it takes like 30 mins but it has gone for an hour before

[still sable]

yo steam crashed for us

ok makes sense

[digital oriole]

Anyone having issues with steam?

Oh ok

[hasty whale]

yup

[digital oriole]

Can I still play?

[hasty whale]

offline only for now

[candid dove]

Steam is back up for me

[verbal meteor]

i was wondering why i didnt get my rustbelt achievement

nvm seems like i used nvgs for it

[spiral tundra]

Are there any unique lines or actions that you can get from taking amos’ wife or daughter into the basement areas?

Would be a cool detail.

[still harbor]

I'm about to sound like a noob but did the AI enemies get buffed sometime in the past week? They seem to be relatively more aggressive.

[languid dagger]

Wtf is wrong with the load out system it keeps deleting my shit every time I switch ais

[uncut widget]

They always been if you play not careful or you just play on hard

[chilly thorn]

Relapses layout is shit, The map is boring and really easy. It should have been much more

[solemn patio]

Hear me out, we have more floors at higher difficulty

[chilly thorn]

Should have been a more realistic layout for a hospital having to deal with stuff like automatic doors and elevators that the enviroment would have. But void won't add any entrances other than basic swing open doors.

[still harbor]

I just finished a solo run on Relapse and I literally ran out of ammo on both my primary and my secondary on the last floor of the second building but was able to verbally make the last suspect surrender. I think I just got lucky

[rancid ivy]

@rancid ivy

[solemn patio]

Probably not used to doing that

[verbal meteor]

question regarding ironman mode do you have to complete the whole ready or nor with dlc's or only the base game?

[silent ferry]

should be ashamed of yourselves. The game is so broken now, just because you guys wanted to get the title on console. smh

anyone else get this weird Red graphical outline/glitch?

[pallid tapir]

Damn finding the perfect rifle/sight combo really changes everything. GA57 with SRO sight is doing wonders for my lethal runs!

[coarse copper]

It's a pc game that was brought to consoles, you can't expect every update or requested update that's done to be perfect, that goes for every game.

[quiet apex]

And that's console players fault how? Blame Void for the shitty optimization, not people for wanting to play the game

[quiet apex]

Ga57 with two negotiators on your team so you can carry lethal and still s rank is where its at

[quasi coral]

Are you legit right now

[quiet apex]

He probably got ganked in a shootout and is blaming the ronsole playerbase

[quasi coral]

He didn't Judge hard enough

[edgy linden]

Would be nice if modding support came to consoles

But we all know how that goes

At least Bethesda tried

[quiet apex]

I wish I could plug my stream somewhere my twitch is on life support

[high jasper]

can c2 kill if a guy is like RIGHT BEHIND the door

i need s rank

[stoic thistle]

PC players when someone won't spend Singapore's GDP per capita on a computer.

[pallid tapir]

Dont forget at least a paramedic lol (when i go for lethal runs to still get the arrest objectives) paramedics are a godsend i tought i iced an arrest target and he was still alive thanks to the para

[quiet apex]

Paramedics will save incapped suspects? All it says is they'll save an officer

[pallid tapir]

Most of the time it just knocks people out

[pallid tapir]

In my experience (could be a bug) ive shot arrest targets with 7.62 and they still live to be arrested giving me a checkmark in the objective box

[quiet apex]

Yeah 7.62 can incapacitate, it's not always a kill

Paramedic is useless, just take 2 negotiators, a kicker, and a pacifier

[pallid tapir]

Brazil's less than lethal option lol (BOPE)

[pallid tapir]

Ill do that then, altough lately ive been playing in quickplay because i like the character voices of them

Eli and the other guys

[clever flame]

bro the terrorists on greased palms are built different, they grabbed a civ and executed them on the spot like no hesitation

im starting to believe s rank for greased is a myth

[pallid tapir]

I think the only way is to play with friends or wait for a miracle and get into a good random squad lol otherwise you will go crazy

I havent tried to s that level yet

[clever flame]

its fucking annoying

ive had it where theres 1 last suspect and my ai drop dead for no reason

thanks

[pallid tapir]

You can get a good A rank with the GA57 or the G36C with the SRO optic on either of them

And good tactics...

[serene snow]

who can i play with on this game

[stoic thistle]

Nonlethal can be slightly easier, and also much harder.

[modern vault]

anyone got any tips to beating Port Hokan on Hard?

[heady acorn]

Anyone got tips for the hermit trophy, im on valley of the dolls

[cedar mulch]

This is incorrect because the nightclub and hospital timelines correspond to the second and third missions.

The elephant's timeline comes after these events.

[high jasper]

Can I get a friendly fire by flashbanging my teammate?

aight, is it more likely with stingers?

[civic fiber]

you injure your teammates as well with a stinger

[high jasper]

XD aight cuz holy fk it is a pain in the ass tryna do hard mode S rank

i tried using shield with the pepperball pistol but the suspects shrug it off

XD

i mean can I use a pistol and just shoot em in the leg and still get S rank?

I mean as long as he doesnt die right

lmao aight bet tyty

[rancid ivy]

Don't get shot

It's true

Yeahhh

[high jasper]

mann if i take the nade launcher from the primary and get the stinger one can it kill if i shoot them in the head

[quiet apex]

The shoulder mounted launchers, the M203s, they're bugged right now and will kill

The m32s i don't believe can kill, the flash one came in SUPER handy for my s ranks

Keep in mind they refuse to touch gas again, say its "right where they want it"

You mean the pepper pistol? Pepper is also ass. For a game that is very "no take the hospital shooter alive or lose points" the non lethals suck dick

[high jasper]

You can still get S rank if someone is incapacitated or knocked out right?

[quiet apex]

No

They all have to be conscious and unharmed

[high jasper]

bs 🙏 😭

[quiet apex]

I have every s rank, the rotary flash launcher and negotiator/pacifier officers work wonders

It actually was one of the easier missions

Elephant, NEON, and Leviathan were the annoying trio

[high jasper]

Niceeeeee

[high jasper]

have u tried shield + pepper pistol?

[quiet apex]

If you take the outside of the post office to the left first, then come back around the front and do the building to the right, it becomes so much easier

Shutting the music off in neon helps a ton

[quiet apex]

Dogwater, not even worth it

[high jasper]

thought so too alr im not the only one 🙏

[quiet apex]

I'm not a big shield guy, one of the other guys in my group is, and he loves it when he's not using pepper. When he takes pepper his opinion of the game flips instantly

[civic fiber]

Relapse is like the hardest missed in the whole main game 😭

[quiet apex]

I s'd relapse on maybe the third try?

Bum rush the third floor, get the bombs, work your way down as slow as possible

[civic fiber]

what howw

[quiet apex]

The best way I can say it is go lobby, and stay left as long as you can, there's a staircase that hits all 3 floors, take the bomb out in the main 3rd floor lobby. Then, take the sky bridge and clear the pediatric bomb. Then just work down

Such a good mission

Probably one of my favorites

Yeah just watch the two doctors who pick up guns

[civic fiber]

what spawn

[quiet apex]

Lobby works for me

That's how I got my s

Mine scream "officer i work here!" In what is probably the most stereotypical accent and I go 🤨 do ya now?

The shooters on Elephant do the same thing. "Officer I'm hurt, help!" And then they open fire when you turn the corner

I fell for it the first time, I mean I still killed the dude but he lit me tf up

[civic fiber]

Is it normal for Relapse suspects to be silent until you turn their corner then have pre-aimed you and die?

[quiet apex]

That S pissed me off to no end, I am not a fan of Narcos

[quiet apex]

Yeah, they're terrorists who specifically know d-platoon is coming and how they work, the first guys of the cell in NEON were livestreaming what you did

[vernal sand]

i keep failing valley of the dolls cause the voices tell me to kill everyone

[civic fiber]

Man thats fucked

[quiet apex]

Tbf tho this is the 2nd time d-platoon is going against the hand, it makes sense they'd learn

[civic fiber]

d-platoon? the hand?

[quiet apex]

D-platoon= Judge and the gang

[civic fiber]

i don’t know what ur on about mann thats some lore stuff

[quiet apex]

The Hand= the terrorist group from NEON and Relapse

The bad guys from neon and relapse are the same group

They're a terrorist cell popping off because America killed some warlord in Yemen

[civic fiber]

should of just sent the military instead of SWAT honestly

5 lonesome officers

[quiet apex]

Yeah, they send in Judge specifically because he's brace for this an MK Ultra type super soldier

Pretty much what they're doing

If you're thinking shit swat would actually do, it's probably Dorms, Twisted Nerve, The Spider, and maybe valley of the dolls

[civic fiber]

He’s not very super in MY game, i must have a deflected Judge

[quiet apex]

Or active shooters, swat would definitely roll up on Elephant or NEON

[civic fiber]

yeah most definitely

[quiet apex]

Bomb threats tho? Idk, so maybe elephant is a toss up

But relapse is definitely national guard territory

[civic fiber]

Well they have to clear the area of the threat

no police officer is capable of that

[quiet apex]

You'd probably send in EOD with the entry team atp

EOD is swat, they just go in after order is brought to chaos, like the trailer guys

Columbine really changed America in a not good way

[civic fiber]

Yeah and people are too stupid about guns just have them laying around

its too easy to shoot a gun

[quiet apex]

Columbine hit into so many kids at the time and after that nowhere is really safe at WAY too young an age to learn that

The sandy hook dude bought his legally

I was in elementary school when sandy hook happened, and I distinctly remember going to the fire house with a bunch of cops and firefighters until my dad picked me up. Never realized why until I asked my dad when it happened

[civic fiber]

Sandy Hook?

[quiet apex]

Another school shooting in 2013, a guy went after an elementary school

[civic fiber]

oh i was too young for that then

i was like 5

[quiet apex]

That's when they just resorted to throwing the pipe bombs and shit. Yeah. I remember reading about it when I was really freaking out over dying at school after sandy hook and Virginia tech

I actually watched Elephant after playing the mission and Jesus christ

[vernal sand]

forgot that was a movie ngl

[quiet apex]

Sandy hook happened like RIGHT as I was gaining my consciousness

[quiet apex]

It's a fucked up watch for sure

[vernal sand]

it was inspired by columbine no?

[quiet apex]

They made us listen to the 911 calls when I was in school for the "rachel's challenge" stuff

[quiet apex]

Yeah, Columbine, Virginia tech, and Sandy hook. It was gonna be a high school, but Twitter freaked out and it became a community college

Which i mean, understandable

[vernal sand]

trauma definitely deep rooted cause of that

[quiet apex]

My teachers always taught us to fight, like grab anything you could and fight

[quiet apex]

Oh hell yeah, idk about anyone else but I always was petrified of open classroom doors and bangs out in the hallway

[vernal sand]

back when i was in school they encouraged that we fight if possible

[quiet apex]

Before I graduated we had multiple shooting threats where I went and it got to the boy who cried wolf territory, nobody ever believed them

So when the one dude almost did it, the whole vibe at school changed for something like a year

Elephant really made me think about how dangerous sending your kid to school in the modern America can be

[vernal sand]

we had a couple bomb threats and one shooting threat. kids didn’t show up for a week after all that stuff went down

[light cove]

Being a firefighter sucks ass

Fun memories but like dealing with leadership pissed me off

[quiet apex]

People always say video games can't be art but for one mission in a game to spark so much dialogue about the situation it's presenting and how often it happens

[light cove]

Leadership is too far up their own fucking ass

[vernal sand]

that’s gotta be so isolating

[light cove]

I would 100% do it again without a second thought if leadership didn’t feel like they own the world

[light cove]

Yeah it is

[quiet apex]

America had a huge like swath of threats because a shit ton of people on tiktok were like "let's all threaten our schools at the same time" and I think one or two of them actually went through with it, so nobody knew which ones ended up being real or fake

[light cove]

Honestly best memories I have is when it’s just 2 or 3 people in a truck

Late at night and just driving around

Community engagement was pretty fun too letting the kids play around with the hose just gotta be careful not to push it up too high lol

It’s also fun speaking to other firefighters hearing some of the craziest stories and shit

[civic fiber]

it mustve not of been a complete blockage thankfully

[vernal sand]

it’s definitely left an impact on most schools regardless of the context. my senior year i got sent home because i went through the back door to bring in my drums. they reprimanded me because there was a shooting recently and i felt so bad even though i was just trying to take a short cut cause those drums heavy asf

[light cove]

We went to a call there was a cat stuck in a tree (I know fucking ironic) and he just sprayed the cat with the hose and dude jumped down like 30 meters or so

[civic fiber]

what the fuck?! poor kitty

[viscid nexus]

another day goes by with No Patch for the co-op servers....empty as faqk unless u wanna play with dudes from asia

[light cove]

Diazepam?

You prescribed that?

[civic fiber]

thats fucked man :(

[light cove]

I have Parkinsonism it really fucking sucks

Not PD but still shit

Yeah

It’s getting better though

Mine isn’t caused by a medical condition it’s just from meds

I’ve never heard of diazepam being used for PD though that’s a new one

[viscid nexus]

been hearing to stay away from dry cleaners that shit supposedly was the cause for this dude at my job to get parkinsons but honestly who tf knows there is so much poison around us now we cant keep track anymore

[quiet apex]

My friend group (the quiet kids) got in literally so much trouble for stepping outside the one day, it was right after Virginia tech

[light cove]

No I started on it couple of months ago

[civic fiber]

yea i got depression and CPTSD they really been fucking me up

[light cove]

It’s temporary Parkinsonism though

Only lasts a couple of weeks-months

But hearing about diazepam and PD is a first I looked into it a little bit and it seems like it’s not a direct treatment but a treatment of anxiety induced dyskinesia

Where PD is a commorbid

Your neurologist/psychiatrist prescribe it?

Cause tell them you’re taking it daily

[civic fiber]

its fine i don’t really care

[light cove]

I don’t think I need to say how important it is to mention that

Some people take benzodiazepines everyday it’s not something out of the ordinary

If you’re finding that it’s helpful and you’ve been taking it everyday I don’t see a reason why they’d stop you

Withdrawals are certainly a thing to be worried about but generally speaking it’s not that big of a concern you just got to come up with a taper plan with your doctor

Yeah if it’s helping you there’s no reason why you would stop

I take benzodiazepines as well but it’s a different drug and for different reasons

Flight medic damn I’ve known one previously

Alprazolam

[civic fiber]

damn is it good or bad that yall know all the medicines for this stuff… i really don’t know

[light cove]

Alprazolam is something you got to be more careful of especially if it’s everyday usage

Largely because it’s short half life and quick onset

Which is why it’s only indicated for short term or immediate anxiety issues like panic attacks

Diazepam is much more commonly used as a long term treatment

[desert island]

druggies

[civic fiber]

thankfully i don’t get anxiety attacks in that sort of sense man it would suck so bad

[light cove]

But also requires a higher dosage compared to other benzodiazepines which is also why it’s used the standard conversion method of benzodiazepines

Much like morphine as a standard conversion method

Even though you can’t do a accurate accurate conversion of morphine compared to other opioids particularly stuff like methadone and fentanyl class opioids

[civic fiber]

i sort of would like to work with Narcan and stuff like that

[light cove]

Which is why when people say 50 times stronger then heroin it pisses me off

Because that isn’t a valid conversion rate

Yeah it produces sudden opioid withdrawals

Which is why people sometimes go apeshit

[civic fiber]

it’s quite strange when they gave it to me man

[light cove]

I was looking pet scans of naloxone and carfenantil and it looks really cool

I can’t send it here but yeah

It’s cool seeing the MOR in the brain

And what naloxone blocks and what it doesn’t block

[twilit ravine]

Quick question I was thinking abt coping the game but the reviews say the graphics have tanked hard is that true?

[civic fiber]

yeah man i was in like pitch darkness after fading in and out of consciousness and i felt so stuck to the hospital bed but after a while i got better and was able to move better

Yeah, it just changed me so much after that happened like i feel as if everything got more real and whats fucked is after they released me i had to go RIGHT BACK TO SCHOOL

i had to have an IV in each like place opposite of your elbow in each arm and i had to be put on 1 on 1 duty where a nurse watches you for the entire day man it suckedd

[iron canopy]

I just got port s rank les gooo

[civic fiber]

Sleeping was so annoying bro even tho it was over a year ago i still remember it so well, the EKG beeping from my heartbeat it was just really crazy realizing the gravity of the situation

all my family and extended family was concerned for me because of that for a solid month

[fast vessel]

what are yall talking abt

[civic fiber]

after they cleared my system man they sent me to the ward and honestly the drive their was so nice 😭 the assistant driver asked me if i wanted his phone to play music on or watch youtube

[civic fiber]

our hardships i guess?

[fast vessel]

Ok

[civic fiber]

Yeah i respectfully declined even tho it was like an hour drive and i just kind of thought about everything and contemplating in my head

glad im still here man i really am

that’s pretty amazing to hear that you can still be happy and out there man

Damn that is pretty barren just all out there with barely anyone else

[flint field]

I’m currently trying to get Grade S on twisted nerve and it every single attempt so far is good until the last suspect, i can’t find him anywhere

Ye

Both houses all floors and nothing

So true

[ripe swift]

Can someone get me a+ on voll

straight idiots in my lobby

[civic fiber]

see yaa

[flint field]

I have had multiple runs trying to S rank Twisted nerve and every single time, there is always that 1 suspect i cannot find
I’m playing on Cmdr

[brisk heron]

does anyone know how to increase my average grade for career stats? i keep doing missions but the average grade doesn't change at all

[gritty lava]

Non lethal

[deep sentinel]

You on pc?

[toxic harness]

You need to do other difficulties like do all S ranks on all 3 difficulties

For Hard, get the best of the best to help.

For Standard, have a general understanding of the game

For Casual, just play the game

[restive mulch]

kept you waiting, huh?

[ripe swift]

Ps5

[dire horizon]

I know this is heaps late but check under every single bed, even ones you don't think someone would be, also behind open doors, I had a suspect with a knife stuck behind the door of the child's room sitting there for 30 mins while I ran around looking everywhere

[flint field]

I did check under the beds and the doors

But nowhere to be found

It’s weird

[dire horizon]

Did you check the garage out the front?

[flint field]

Yep, i check the unexpected spots

All around the map

[dire horizon]

Hmm strange then

[flint field]

Very strange indeed

[vivid wedge]

Do you guys know if the Toxic Fumes achievement can be done on singleplayer?