👮ron-discussion

[spiral tundra]

Although you can say it’s connected to the nightclub one

[charred birch]

I believe elephant had a plot that was scrapped

[spiral tundra]

Due to bombs

[charred birch]

Well, elephant and relapse more precisely

[surreal merlin]

Also like on his other monitor when he was talking to somebody on an app he said something about Mindjot

[spiral tundra]

But a lot of them are connected through drugs or illegal weapons

[charred birch]

I’m really not too sure but I think the Watt CC shooters got their guns from the Tran brothers

[spiral tundra]

What about the bombs

[charred birch]

At least I wouldn’t be surprised

[charred birch]

Good question actually..

[spiral tundra]

I mean if they get them from the terrorist group in the nightclub or they could even homemake them if they knew

The bombs don’t seem very advanced at all

[charred birch]

I mean it’s plausible but would The Hand do business with americans after the Yemeni strikes and all ? 😭

[spiral tundra]

Do we know the nationality of the shooter

[toxic harness]

"Lemme buy your weapons so I can kill your people..."

bruh

[charred birch]

All four are americans ethnically

[spiral tundra]

I mean if they found out how they can make it themselves with supplies they buy

[solemn patio]

he's a paedophile, no?

[charred birch]

Yes he is 💔

[spiral tundra]

I mean I think it’s better off sending the lot to prison

[solemn patio]

i legit shot him the first time i played it

[trim dirge]

who thinks the left behind would beat the hand in a fight

cause i do

[spiral tundra]

You’re giving them the easy way out killing them

[solemn patio]

yep

[charred birch]

They most definitely would

[spiral tundra]

Aren’t they veterans

[trim dirge]

yes

[solemn patio]

the left behind have prosthetics tho

they might struggle moving around

[spiral tundra]

I mean depends on the area

We know they have modified snipers

[solemn patio]

you should be able to knock them off their feet by destryoing their prosthetic legs if they have em without killing them

[charred birch]

They surely do NOT struggle to flank me at Mach jesus though 😭💔

[spiral tundra]

FR

[solemn patio]

thats all ready or not ai bro

[spiral tundra]

dude I shot this guy twice and he’s still running off in ides of March

[charred birch]

Them in particular

[solemn patio]

bro all ready or not ai are legit the terminator

[spiral tundra]

Shoot them in the heart and they’ll be alive bro

[solemn patio]

the fuckass g3a3 terrorists can wallbang me with pinpoint accuracy through a very thick surface

[spiral tundra]

And why are these civilians taking 5 years to surrender

Like bro I’m here to help YOU

Time they’re down my whole team just got wiped by a dude with a prostethic leg 😭

[charred birch]

The veterans really taught me to use wedges honestly

Since that’s what prevents you from getting flanked

[spiral tundra]

I mean like when I’m getting flanked I be sitting there with a taser

If they’re gonna come round the corner they’re gone

I literally spent 30 mins earlier just looking for the shooters on elephant

Only found them when I deployed my whole team to search

[charred birch]

Holy shit were there any civilians left because 30 mins would be enough for them to kill them all multiple times 😭💔

[spiral tundra]

There was 1 or two shooters left but I had all the civs in one room by that time bro

Just moved them all so they didn’t die

[charred birch]

Oh in that case it makes sense they survived

[spiral tundra]

Then put one officer on hold with them

[dreamy garden]

Does anyone else have issues with the emperor achievement just not being complete despite doing what it says

[brave osprey]

hey which is a better option for s rank hard? heavy armor full ceramic or heavy armor full steel with the armorer trait?

[charred birch]

I personally don’t use steel as it can cause friendly fire (i’ll have to check i’m not too sure) but on certain maps you may find yourself needing it

[spiral tundra]

Yeah it causes richochet

Of shrapnel

[charred birch]

I’d recommend full ceramic personally as you get pretty nice protection and still get to move a little faster which is nice

[brave osprey]

ive been stuck on greased palms for a hot minute

[charred birch]

I still go rather slow regardless to play tactically but running full steel heavy armor on Elephant will be a pain

[spiral tundra]

Btw does anyone know how many 9mm shots you can take to the arms and legs before dying

[solemn patio]

what is the worst mission to use stab vest on

[charred birch]

See I’d love to tell you but it’s hard to count how many rounds a glock’s fired at you when it feels like the AI has a switch on it 😭

More seriously though quite a bit

[spiral tundra]

Dude idk why the Glock fires so fast

Like I know it’s hyper realistic but I’m so used to slow firing pistols

[solemn patio]

ngl the g19 reload makes it so clunky

[spiral tundra]

I literally never use my sidearm

[solemn patio]

we need a g20 tbh

[spiral tundra]

Only if I feel like it really

[solemn patio]

or g40

[spiral tundra]

But I never use more than 2 mags on my SR-16 really idk why

I’ve got up to the nightclub mission

[charred birch]

Honestly I find myself needing to switch to it in a firefight very rarely, I only use it in some tight CQB context if I feel like it/with a shield for obvious reasons/ or if i’m doing a first responder kind of run with only a sidearm

[spiral tundra]

Same

[solemn patio]

we should be able to sprint instead of lean when we put our rifle at low ready

[spiral tundra]

I love the SR-16 it’s been the only rifle I used since first mission

[solemn patio]

we're so slow

[charred birch]

Otherwise the reload animations for rifles and SMGs are.. Rather fast really and you usually want to avoid firefights as much as you can

[spiral tundra]

It looks sick to me and has so little recoil with ok stopping power

[solemn patio]

f90 has way less tbh

[charred birch]

I used to use it religiously but I’ve started using others a lot more to the point where I don’t find myself using it a lot surprisingly

[solemn patio]

i've just been experimenting with weapons since the start

[charred birch]

But it’s definitely a solid choice ; only downside I think is the barrel length

[spiral tundra]

Btw is there a channel where people can show their loadouts / outfits

[charred birch]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[spiral tundra]

I never find it an issue

[solemn patio]

i guess #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[spiral tundra]

I just want to find some sort of outfit that looks like rangers sorta

[charred birch]

I didn’t realize as well but barrel length is REALLY important in CQB because the shorter it is the better you can pie rooms without the muzzle sticking out

[solemn patio]

i lowk wanna just run into a mission one day with the USP-45 and mp5 like a Navy SEAL

[spiral tundra]

I currently use a full tan fit tho

[spiral tundra]

I usually stick to going in second

So I have plenty of room

[charred birch]

Oh in that case barrel length wouldn’t be as much of an issue

[solemn patio]

we need a dive suit and a frogman mission where we go underwater and defuse a bomb and then clear a nearby building of terrorists

[spiral tundra]

Only times I go in first are really in rooms I have looked under with the camera gun

[solemn patio]

maybe they planted it to damage undersea cables

[spiral tundra]

And I’ll look at helmet cam of first man to go in

[charred birch]

Believe it or not I almost stopped using the mirrorgun and it made the game more fun

[spiral tundra]

I only use it for the massive rooms

Otherwise I’ll just swing it or peek

[solemn patio]

mirror gun is for when you had enough of a levels bs

[charred birch]

I found that going into a room blind holding a big piece of metal was a lot more fun than I thought it’d be

[spiral tundra]

I mean I hate going in massive rooms blind cuz it can have multiple and sometimes flashbangs won’t even hit them

[solemn patio]

i flashbang or sting rooms religiously

[spiral tundra]

I never sting

[solemn patio]

im pretty sure stinger is more effective

[spiral tundra]

I don’t carry them
I traded mine for a wedge

[charred birch]

I love doing 90s SWAT kind of runs where I just carry a Beretta and MP5A2 with iron sights/flashlight and a SHIT TON of flashbangs and then I just flash every room I see, bark for compliance and if they remotely seem to reach for anything I just mag dump

[solemn patio]

i never wedge rooms

[charred birch]

It’s really fun, but maybe i’m just too easily entertained 😭

[solemn patio]

i just run around killing terrorists

[solemn patio]

beretta is the best 9mm

its got insanely good reload speed

[spiral tundra]

I only ever end up using like 3-4 pieces of equipment each mission idek why I carry it all

[solemn patio]

you reload it almost instantly

[charred birch]

When I tell you that it’s now a REFLEX for me to wedge certain rooms I mean it, I can’t go on some missions without at least one set of wedges

[spiral tundra]

What’s the best sight bro I only use holo

[solemn patio]

i lowk beef with relapse

[charred birch]

I can go without but it feels weird since it’s a habit for me now

[charred birch]

Arguably it’s the SRO but I’m not a fan of the way it looks for some reason, so you can really use whatever. The holo is REALLY solid tho

[solemn patio]

AS LONG AS IT ISNT A SCOPE

[charred birch]

ADS isn’t necessary in a lot of cases though as you can just use canted sights with a flashlight/laser

[solemn patio]

i wish we could use backup irons on our guns

[spiral tundra]

I ADS all the time so I don’t end up shooting the civ that always wants to sit in front of the criminals

[charred birch]

I genuinely don’t see the use of the ATAK scope apart from MAYBE the watchtower in Hide and Seek

[solemn patio]

what should i run in relapse

[charred birch]

Fair enough, I use canted sights most of the time personally but it’s all a matter of preferences

[spiral tundra]

I’d like to see offset sights

[solemn patio]

do i make my ai all use flashbangs and no tasers

[candid wing]

Whats the difference between the battering ram and the breach shotgun in terms of ingame use?

[primal gate]

I gave VoD another shot and on the first try I got S rank with flash ammo to spare

[solemn patio]

i wish you could kill people with the battering ram

[spiral tundra]

You can shoot people with the shotgun if you can’t change in time

[charred birch]

The ram will have the door open entirely, with the downsides being that you have to be very close to the door, and if it’s a wooden door it’ll leave a massive hole in it which can get you shot in some situations

[desert island]

m32flash is op

[solemn patio]

shotgun absolutely destroys door

[desert island]

breachshotgun only opens the door partially

[candid wing]

And what's a good loadout for my ai teammates? I'm only holding flashbangs and a taser so I was gonna give all the different deployables to my team.

[spiral tundra]

Arguably better in some cases

[charred birch]

As to the breach shotgun, it destroys the door handle hut you have to manually open the door afterwards (AI will kick it) so it’s kind of slower

The advantage is you can do it from further away

[desert island]

breachshotgun has only ever been worse

[candid wing]

So for commander mode which is recommended more?

[solemn patio]

i like to throw a flashbang in there

lets me not be shot '

[charred birch]

I also think the breachshotgun impacts suspect morale more than battering ram does, so the suspects are just slightly more likely to surrender

[spiral tundra]

Dude how can I keep team morale high when everybody decides they wanna shoot on sight

[candid wing]

Or should I give one a breach shotgun and the other a ram?

[desert island]

its not hard to outrun teammates

[spiral tundra]

Like dude my officers be shooting everything and wonder why they’re stressed

[solemn patio]

lowk just execute them /j

[charred birch]

I’d say if it’s you carrying it, you should use the battering ram and your ai should use the shotgun

That’s just how i do it though so take what i say with a grain of salt

[candid wing]

I'm holding mirrorgun

[spiral tundra]

I mean I generally don’t breach I just pick lock and open

[desert island]

just give ur ai c2 charges so they can wear shields

[charred birch]

Oh in that case i’d recommend either really, probably the ram as your AI will have to be close to the door anyway so the distance advantage the shotgun has will be useless for them

[primal gate]

Just unlocked "elephant" I heard you can S rank it despite killing the suspects, is that true?

[charred birch]

And not all doors are wood ; besides you only find yourself getting shot in some rare scenarios so yeah i’d recommend the ram

[desert island]

no

[solemn patio]

noope

[desert island]

s rank means u got 100% of points

[primal gate]

I have to take these edgelords alive?

[desert island]

killing suspect means u only get 5 points instead of 35

[solemn patio]

yes

[primal gate]

Booooooo

[spiral tundra]

Shoot them in the chest with a beanbag

They’ll soon know about it

[naive portal]

@willow grove what mission

[charred birch]

I’ll lockpick if i know no suspect is behind the door

[spiral tundra]

And most the time you won’t be far from them in that map

[spiral tundra]

I lockpick and peek and flash even if I know

[willow grove]

Buy Cheap, Buy Twice

[primal gate]

As someone who grew up near Parkland high I'm annoyed I can't execute school shooters

[charred birch]

If i see one suspect i’ll use the ram/shotgun and for multiple i use c2 and flash

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators, so when swat ai or you yell for compliance suspects will surrender with 50% chance

[near smelt]

burm

[spiral tundra]

Ah thanks

[naive portal]

have u reported trafficking evidence in the office

[spiral tundra]

I usually take a negotiator, SBAGS, moral officer and intimidator

[charred birch]

If that serves as motivation, know that once you’re done with S ranking it you can come back with SA-58s and mag dump every one of them

[near smelt]

sorry i typed this by accident my keyboard is messed up

[willow grove]

Wheres that at?

[naive portal]

in some office idk which one specifically

[willow grove]

Upstairs?

[charred birch]

Pretty sure it’s downstairs

There’s a bunch of white paper bits all over the place if i’m not mistaken

[spiral tundra]

I fear playing shotguns cuz it’s so easy to one tap your friendlies or hit a civ

[willow grove]

Check #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[spiral tundra]

I watched my own squad breacher one tap my own officer with his shotgun earlier

[willow grove]

nvm

[pallid bay]

Hello guys, I wish I had RoN it’s a peak game

[charred birch]

If spread is the issue you could use slugs or even a spread choke for buckshot

[willow grove]

ill dm it that cool?

[charred birch]

Yeah no issue at all man 😭

[spiral tundra]

But this totally ruined my rating

[charred birch]

Are you talking to me ? 💔

[willow grove]

I dm you

[spiral tundra]

Btw how can you get it to show you your negatives at the end for some reason it doesn’t show me

[lean edge]

I don’t know what happened to free lean, but it seemed to work better before. Now, no matter how much you try to make yourself smaller, they still see you...

[spiral tundra]

I mean it’s realistic ig

[primal gate]

I know that for most they'd want an update that fixes the bugs, gives the option to uncensor the game and return the graphics to its original quality, but I'd some point I want my irl carry piece in the game

[spiral tundra]

They’re gonna be on the watch if they hear you shooting everyone

[lean edge]

Has anyone else had this problem?

[spiral tundra]

I refuse to use a suppressor

Gunshots sound too cool

[primal gate]

I heard that S ranking VoD would give you a Hawaiian shirt

What happened to that?

[rich cobalt]

i wish there was sling physics for the weapons.

uncharted 4 had weapon slings.

[willow grove]

anyone down to help me to get a S rank on neon tomb?

[willow grove]

It’s still a thing you need to get S on Valley of the dolls

[charred birch]

I’m pretty sure you get it by S ranking every mission, not just VOD

[quiet apex]

I almost had it but my ai killed a guy with a flash

[willow grove]

Lol

[quiet apex]

No it's specifically an s on valley

[charred birch]

It is ?

[willow grove]

All right, well never mind on neon tomb I’m never doing that shit again.

[charred birch]

Man my memory about some stuff in this game is really off

[willow grove]

Right when I opened the first door, I get blasted by a automatic shotgun

[quiet apex]

Game's broken as shit rn, what difficulty

[willow grove]

or something like that

[willow grove]

I only play on standard

[quiet apex]

Two guys in the club have RPDs

So you're going into like 15 suspects, all wearing level 4 plates, 2 with LMGs

[willow grove]

i’ll put the clip in #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[spiral tundra]

What’s y’all’s fav mission

[quiet apex]

Like the first door into the club or the door into the tunnel?

[quiet apex]

Twisted nerve, something about doing actual swat shit and not call of duty shit is cool

[languid creek]

I agree twisted nerve is so good

[rich cobalt]

most only have loadbearing vests.

[quiet apex]

So why is it like I'm shooting nerf darts

[charred birch]

Ends of the Earth I’d say for being one of the less bullshit scenarios SWAT would intervene in

[spiral tundra]

I love it cuz it’s an actual house

Makes it way easier knowing what to expect in every room

[wraith gale]

what map and what gun

[charred birch]

And I also REALLY love Buy Cheap, Buy Twice for some reason or another

[willow grove]

Check #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[quiet apex]

Def a good one, I was like "home invasion?? House clearing?" And then it was clearing an entire neighborhood and I was like "aw"

[spiral tundra]

I swear half these missions with the stuff they have would be FBI or even military level stuff bro

[primal gate]

I didn't see any Hawaiian shirts unlocked after I beat it

[quiet apex]

Neon is straight up what the national guard is for

[charred birch]

While I did like narcos, the whole urban warfare was a little much

[quiet apex]

Polo shirt and right in the d pad

[tender mountain]

Judge is js mentally insane or too lost in thoughts if he dose not need therapy after all of those missions.

[primal gate]

Thanks!

[charred birch]

Well SWAT would probably be the first to respond but you’d definitely see the FBI or even the national guard step in sometimes

[quiet apex]

Sleeper agent, he probably doesn't remember them

[tender mountain]

Oh yea.

So local PD takes over case while federal units come (for neon argument).

[quiet apex]

My team definitely remembers them lmfao, send those fuckers to doc every 10 minutes cause they can't stomach the job they fuckin applied for

[tender mountain]

FR

[charred birch]

I actually think the issue isn’t that SWAT are the ones intervening but rather that they’re sending a 5 men team to clear a whole hospital crawling with terrorists

[toxic harness]

When did The Hand get Level 4 armor?

[candid wing]

Should I give my ai teammates tasers and pepper spray? And do I give all of them these items?

[toxic harness]

They don't use them at all

[charred birch]

They’ll only use them if you use the deploy command

[quiet apex]

Apparently FISA funds them because my bullets never fucking pen

[lean edge]

LOL😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[spiral tundra]

So what would we say the only missions are SWAT would handle alone

[toxic harness]

what caliber?

[candid wing]

Do they use the lockpick gun

[languid creek]

Yes. Twisted nerve and ends of the earth feels real. Relapse doesn’t. But the variety is nice, wish we had even more

[charred birch]

I don’t think so..

[quiet apex]

Qadamah took a 7.62 to the chest and said "ow" and lit up my guys with an LMG

[spiral tundra]

Yes if you tell them to lockpick

[tender mountain]

I just give them ammo and throwables, they aint gonna use anything else whitout command which takes time which I dont have.

[charred birch]

But then i rarely ever bring it

[toxic harness]

That's just base health, not armor as they all have L3 armor

[charred birch]

So i could be wrong

[spiral tundra]

They do on command

[toxic harness]

I only know School Shooters has L4 Armor

[quiet apex]

Make sure to tell the actual guy with the lp gun to use it, that guy won't latch to the command automatically

[tender mountain]

Aim for head.

[spiral tundra]

I just tell gold to use it and they do

[toxic harness]

Yeah but I can just... non lethal run

[charred birch]

UPF on Leviathan have L4 armor too i believe

[quiet apex]

Multiple 7.62 to the chest should do the trick and it rarely ever does, they're so bullet spongey

[spiral tundra]

What calibre is the SR-16 using

[charred birch]

5.56x45

[spiral tundra]

How am I one tapping people with this

[quiet apex]

Depleted uranium rounds apparently, my 7.62s are flaccid

[charred birch]

I mean if you’re playing on standard it’s not uncommon for that caliber to one tap if you aim for the chest and they’re not wearing good armor ; which mission are you one tapping them in ?

[spiral tundra]

Sins of the father

[charred birch]

Really ? That’s surprising cause they all wear armor

[quiet apex]

Are you hitting in the breadbasket or the stomach

[charred birch]

But then again, sometimes you can just one tap even with that caliber

[spiral tundra]

Idk I shot one on like the side mid way down and he dropped

And another in the chest head on

[quiet apex]

Idk if hitting them in the spine does anything in this game

[spiral tundra]

Irl they’d be on the floor after that bro the pain is crazy

[charred birch]

Well one thing I do know is a buckshot to the face will definitely tear off a chunk or two…

[quiet apex]

Or if you severed something their left would just give out

[quiet apex]

No, beanbag to the head and cave it in like a TRUE l.e.o

[spiral tundra]

What even are the effects of being shot in the arm / leg I never notice them

[quiet apex]

It turns red

[spiral tundra]

Ik

But like does it effect your character

[quiet apex]

That's pretty much it, and you won't be able to kick doors

[charred birch]

Left arm worsens recoil, right arm fucks up your throwing accuracy

Legs impact your movement speed and kicking doors is less effective ; you often break your legs when trying to

[spiral tundra]

Oh, I never notice cuz unless I’m clearing a room alone I make my ai throw bangs

[quiet apex]

I've never noticed that, that's kinda cool

[quiet apex]

Do they ever bounce it off the wall and flash the team

[spiral tundra]

Nah

[charred birch]

The AI is utter shit at throwing flashbangs sometimes it’s infuriating

[quiet apex]

That happens to me so often

[spiral tundra]

Dude they miss the people a lot but they don’t flash the team

[quiet apex]

Okay so its not just me

[charred birch]

Or when you tell them to use the launcher and they aim at the wall they’re stacked up on and it blows up in your face

[quiet apex]

Or when they just fucking ignore your order

[spiral tundra]

Dude I had this issue so much earlier in later misssions where they won’t breach

Or open the door and clear

[charred birch]

Is it just me experiencing one of my men fucking off into a COMPLETELY different direction when i tell them to clear a room or ?

Like they’ll just go idk where wandering around and it’s only one man

[spiral tundra]

Make sure you’re not looking at another area they can clear in front of the room you want

[quiet apex]

"Kick the door bang the room"
"Got it"
And then they STAND THERE

[spiral tundra]

Fr I just end up having to do it alone and getting shot 10 times

[quiet apex]

Or when they gagglefuck the doorway and get lit up

[spiral tundra]

fr it’s so funny tho

funny until half your team is dead tho

[quiet apex]

"Open and clear"
dead
dead
dead
dead

[charred birch]

I find it funny how they are actually unable to react to getting shot when they’re standing in front of a window

They’ll just stand there sticking a thumb up their ass 💔

[quiet apex]

It makes me wanna scream so I just dashboard the game and try again

[spiral tundra]

Most annoying thing is when you’re clearing the really wide rooms and your flash hits nobody

[quiet apex]

I desperately need a patch to swat ai

[spiral tundra]

So you go in and expect them to surrender and get lit up by 4 dudes who are completely fine

[charred birch]

Oh and if i may add i hate when i spawn and a second later my whole team starts yelling and mag dumping in some direction where apparently there’s a suspect which i cannot SEE

[quiet apex]

Literally every attempt I had on sins of the father

[spiral tundra]

DUDE FR

Especially on greased palms and gas station

[quiet apex]

Right??? They're screaming immediately and I'm like "WE AREN'T EVEN IN THE POST OFFICE YET"

[charred birch]

LITERALLY I HATE IT IT’S THESE TWO MISSIONS AND HUNGER STRIKE KINDA

[spiral tundra]

like ISTG if you yell once more ima pop you myself

[quiet apex]

I literally have to work myself up to trying NEON again because I know it's gonna be buggy and janky

[charred birch]

I wish we had some kind of command that forced them to be quiet

[quiet apex]

"You gonna move??"

[surreal merlin]

i can't even approach stealthily from the back door in gas station because my red team has to yell at someone through the window 😭

[spiral tundra]

Istg I’m literally nowhere near you when they say this

[quiet apex]

"You're in my-"
💥💥💥💥

[charred birch]

Because sometimes you find yourself needing to be stealthy for a reason or another and they’ll go PUT YOUR HANDS UP and shoot at the wall

[spiral tundra]

Then you order them to stack up and they go the long way and alert 3 suspects

[quiet apex]

The shooting at suspects 4 rooms away is so stupid, it's always people they'd have NO clue are there

[charred birch]

While the AI can be ridiculously good at clearing rooms, it’s also so stupid sometimes it’s actually funny

[spiral tundra]

Then you can’t hear ANYTHING cuz the AI have the loudest guns on earth

[quiet apex]

Are the good AI in the room with us

[charred birch]

Sometimes I just watch them clear rooms and it’s BEAUTIFUL (when it works)

[quiet apex]

Mine is like a squad of Helen kellers wearing helmets

[spiral tundra]

Dude, I was on VOD earlier

Guy runs into back garden starts shooting, my breacher does a 180 and one pumps my friendly officer with his shotgun

Like bro are you BLIND

[quiet apex]

200 damage

[charred birch]

I hate both when AI does friendly fire for no reason AND when they dump a mag into the suspect you’re supposed to arrest

[spiral tundra]

And how do people mistake friendlies for enemies when they’re right next to you bro they got full tactical gear and a glowing light on their back 🥀

[spiral tundra]

FR DUDE

[quiet apex]

I had Voll on the ground, and he stood up between me and an officer, so that officer proceeded to shotgun blast him and break both of my arms in the process

[spiral tundra]

I’m trying to make an arrest and you mag dump for no reason

Like they don’t know how to use a TASER

[quiet apex]

I demoted them to all rotary flash launcher and pepper pistols and they still somehow manage to fucking kill suspects

[charred birch]

I remember when I did an almost perfect run in Greased Palms, and just as i was about to flash the FISA agent and arrest him, one man headshot him

[spiral tundra]

I think the tasers should be changed in the game though cuz they’ll still stand up and carry on after being tased, and I can’t tell what the taser cord is

Why’s the taser cord orange

[pallid bay]

Guys, do you have a way to block the scene when there is the container mission block the NSFW

[charred birch]

I always say non-lethal needs more variety and I think making the taser a sidearm would be a first step

[pallid bay]

?

[quiet apex]

For a game that basically screams at you to play non lethally, the non lethal sucks

[charred birch]

It’s already censored ever since the console release, they have clothes now

[pallid bay]

Thank god

[pallid bay]

My family always watches my game so yeah

[spiral tundra]

Tasers get people sobbing on the ground irl and people in game just be acting like they’ve hit their head on the doorframe

[languid creek]

The first person happy to be censored has arrived

[quiet apex]

Not a family living room tv kinda game there Raman

[languid creek]

Yeah fr WILD game for the living room lol

[charred birch]

Honestly while i’m not particularly fond of it ; i find it to be a non issue most of the time

[pallid bay]

I am begging my family to get me a monitor but they won’t 🙏

[charred birch]

The only instance where i find it bad is VOD because it just makes Voll look like a doll enjoyer

[spiral tundra]

I only noticed censoring when I checked the manager

[languid creek]

Same it shouldn’t have happened but no need to waste breath getting angry over it

[pallid bay]

Oh, then I’ll wait until I buy a monitor

[quiet apex]

I talked to a guy who was LIVID about the valley changes. Not anything else. Just Valley. Stopped talking to him almost immediately

[languid creek]

Playing with my homie and breaking down the lore of each mission is fun, valley of the dolls had him spooked and bummed out in that basement lol

[charred birch]

Some people are overreacting to it quite sincerely, the console update has brought far bigger issues than the censorship

[spiral tundra]

Idk but I got the game today and I absolutely love it so

[quiet apex]

That's probably my main problem with it, I don't care that the trafficking victims are clothed, I care that the game doesn't fucking work

[spiral tundra]

I already have irreparable hatred for my AI though

[charred birch]

oh it’s not a BAD game by any means ; especially if you’re a console player it’s still really good

[languid creek]

There’s issues but if you want to have a good time you will have a good time, miserable people stay miserable

[spiral tundra]

Like bro why does it feel like my AI have paper for organs

The dudes die from anything

[charred birch]

But for players who have been around on PC for a while the contrast can be AWFUL depending on how picky you are

[languid creek]

Gotta get officers with nutritionist or armorer perk

[charred birch]

I can deal with it honestly I still adore the game

[honest fern]

Have you given them heavy armor

[spiral tundra]

Watching AI die to a pistol 😭

[charred birch]

If you’re willing to trade slots for equipment you can give them heavy armor ; they’ll match your speed anyway so you don’t need to worry about them being slow

[spiral tundra]

I haven’t even customised the AI at all

[charred birch]

I almost exclusively run light ceramic armor though

[honest fern]

Theres your problem

[charred birch]

Oh it’s a game changer, you really should

[spiral tundra]

Idk what to do with em

[charred birch]

It takes time to change every time yes but it’s unbelievably useful

[honest fern]

Give them heavy armor

[charred birch]

Well what have you not touched on them ?

[spiral tundra]

Btw does customisation you own transfer to AI aswell

[languid creek]

I just can’t get the gear to save. Their guns save but the ballistic mask and armor never saves in the load out

[charred birch]

Literally nothing or ?

[spiral tundra]

Everything

[honest fern]

You can make a loadout for yourself, save it as a preset, and apply that preset to the AI

[languid creek]

It is definitely worth giving alpha a riot shield and bravo a battering ram

[charred birch]

Well for starters you should see if you can switch their primary and secondary ; either to match yours or have some variety by having two carry shotguns and the others carry ARs

[honest fern]

I gave everyone of em riot shields and flash launchers

[languid creek]

It still doesn’t apply the ballistic masks

[spiral tundra]

One has shotgun

[honest fern]

Are rhey wearing gas masks?

[languid creek]

No just goggles

[spiral tundra]

But I find it causes more issues

As previously mentioned they’re prone to team killing in a stack with shotgun

[charred birch]

Then you should see what equipment to give them like flashes, stingers etc AND C2/wedges (i find the pepper spray, taser useless and i just never bring the lockpicking gun)

[languid creek]

I can put ballistic masks on them but i have to do it manually and it doesn’t save so i stopped trying

[honest fern]

Taser is great for S ranks

[charred birch]

Then there are the tactical weapons : you can choose not to carry the mirrorgun and instead have the battering ram so you can do the breaching ; a teammate can carry the mirrorgun in your place

[honest fern]

Weird, mine always saves

[charred birch]

It’s great if you’re carrying it but for the AI you have to tell them to deploy it, which is quite clunky

[spiral tundra]

They be eating it though

[honest fern]

Oh yea definitely

[old pivot]

Truly incredible anti-veteran propaganda in RoN how every single Left Behind mission is the hardest shit on earth

[honest fern]

Tase the limbs, they have body armor sometimes

[spiral tundra]

Even civilians

[languid creek]

Just don’t give yourself the flash launcher if you’re going for S with AI. You’ll accidentally do 60 points of friendly fire because the AI behind you got flashed a little bit

[honest fern]

Why are you tasing civs

[spiral tundra]

Running

[honest fern]

💀

[spiral tundra]

Surely you can tase a civ randomly running away bro

[languid creek]

Melee and yell for compliance works wonders. Seriously yall gotta start bashing people with your weapons they get down instantly every time.

[honest fern]

^

[spiral tundra]

Dude I forgot how to melee

[charred birch]

Ok Jarvis, delete the bodycam footage

[languid creek]

Hold B

[honest fern]

B

Just press no need to hold

[old pivot]

Thank you comrade RoN, surely the Americans will be subverted by your placement of 5000 armored veterans who never, ever surrender

[languid creek]

Press b is crouch hold b is melee

[honest fern]

Uh no?

[charred birch]

I tried just now and you have to hold

[spiral tundra]

Also on twisted nerve there was a civ at the top of the stairs, I was yelling at them for a few minutes, tased them, got AI to melee them, and they still didn’t get down, is this a bug or civilian being stupid

[honest fern]

They changed it?

Crouch is shift for me

[spiral tundra]

That’s PC..

[honest fern]

Is everyone here on console?

[spiral tundra]

I’m Xbox check roles 😭

[languid creek]

Sometimes they don’t get down until you specifically yell to get down. But I really hope that’s not bugged because that was fixed allegedly

[charred birch]

I used to play on PC but due to circumstances i switched to console 😭💔

[honest fern]

I thought we were all talking about pc

[lean edge]

guys pls help

[spiral tundra]

Dude even after melee and tase is crazy

[lean edge]

i bring order to chaos on neon on hard

[honest fern]

Mb cuz its also b on pc so i thought were all pc players

[languid creek]

B is a crazy key bind for melee lol

[lean edge]

But a civilian doesn't surrender and doesn't get on her knees.

[uncut widget]

Melee her

[lean edge]

nothing work

[honest fern]

I dont use it as often so its fine

[uncut widget]

Well, kill her

[spiral tundra]

Most games is hold Right stick down

[lean edge]

its hard s bro

[charred birch]

Typically i throw a flash or a stinger and it works, but sometimes it’s REALLY impossible to get them to surrender if they’re bugged

[lean edge]

i cant

[charred birch]

Like, just throw it at her face

[uncut widget]

Restart

[spiral tundra]

I presume I had it bugged then

[languid creek]

If you can’t get her down she’s bugged. My condolences. This was supposed to be fixed

[spiral tundra]

Cuz dude that civ annoyed the hell out of me bro

[lean edge]

i hate VOID really

[spiral tundra]

Almost died cuz another suspect came in the time it took them to get down

[uncut widget]

Try next time

[languid creek]

Btw if anyone wants that achievement for getting killed by a civilian, that white dress lady on valley of the dolls will beat you to death if you let her

[honest fern]

So thats how u get it

[charred birch]

I found that the closer you are to them the more they tend to surrender IF they’re not bugged, but sometimes you can be so close you can smell their breath yet they’ll just stare at you and not surrender

[spiral tundra]

Btw how do you get the officer roles and allat

[spiral tundra]

I was right on the top of the stairs and they still weren’t, and I tried taser and melee

[uncut widget]

And also remove all traits which are relayed to decreasing morale of suspects and civilians

[honest fern]

I got it the moment i joined i think?

[charred birch]

Yeah in that case it was VOID’s spaghetti code or whatever fucking up again

[spiral tundra]

I was yelling for like 5 mins bro

With the AI too and the intimidator role was on the team

[lean edge]

I will definitely delete the game if I try one more time and it doesn't work. I hate this unfinshed game

[charred birch]

It wasn’t even that bad back when I was on PC, the console update just fucked things up and the censorship isn’t even my issue I don’t care about it, it’s the fucking fact that the game won’t fucking WORK sometimes

[sullen glade]

It's not unfinished... it's just been ported to console plus an update so bugs are to be expected

[charred birch]

They said they "fucked up somewhere" and don’t know where which is quite ridiculous

[lean edge]

not this simple things ...

[charred birch]

now it’s not a bad game by any of means i still love it, but yeah no the issues the console update brought are quite insane

[lean edge]

BASIC

[spiral tundra]

I saw a vid of someone platinuming and they kept getting this bug on a specific mission where the suspects were glitched inside the wall and you can’t do anything and they’d just shoot you

[charred birch]

Is it in Ends of the Earth’ attic ?

[spiral tundra]

You can’t even hit them either or non lethal them

[sullen glade]

Give it time, more money = more manpower to fix things. If they haven't been fixed in a few months then fair enough complain but give them time, it's only a small team working on the game

[spiral tundra]

I can’t remember

[lean edge]

they cant fix simple bugs It was my mistake to trust this crappy company

[charred birch]

While I’m against negativity and always try to defend developers (VOID is admirable for such a small team), they genuinely did fuck up this time around

I’m sure it’ll get fixed but it’s almost disgusting at times

[spiral tundra]

But I love the game either way from first impression, and I haven’t really encountered any bugs apart from AI not breaching

[charred birch]

The good thing is it remains an excellent game and console players can enjoy it

[sullen glade]

They've generally been good so far at fixing things so i'm staying positive

[spiral tundra]

Yeah I love it, I only got a new console recently cuz I can’t get anything new on the older one

And older games servers are shutting down

[lean edge]

I encountered many bugs during my playtime, but this is no longer forgivable. The company needs to value the players time. I've been on this mission for 3 full hours.

[spiral tundra]

Which mission

[lean edge]

neon
HARD S

[spiral tundra]

What bug

[sullen glade]

Hard is totally fucked have to agree, but the base game is playable

[charred birch]

Basically they just brought order to chaos but a civilian will NOT surrender no matter what

[charred birch]

I’d agree on that statement honestly since a big chunk of the issues you have to be very picky to actually notice

[spiral tundra]

I mean if you’re not concerned about score you can just exfil or shoot them

[solemn patio]

Legshots should drop suspects

[spiral tundra]

You can always come back and reply it later

[charred birch]

They’re going for S on hard so i feel them 💔

[solemn patio]

Oop i forgot to stop replying

[charred birch]

This mission is one of the harder ones as well

[spiral tundra]

Ohhh sh

[honest fern]

S on hard is very very hard to do

[lean edge]

after 3 hours
I won't play this game anymore.

[honest fern]

If youve played at least 100 hours you will notice theres alot of bugs and issues

[charred birch]

I had ~ 606hours in the game on PC so yeah i did notice when i played on console

[honest fern]

I mean i personally am not that bothered by the bugs but i understand it would be very annoying to have a softlock bug when S ranking hard mode

[charred birch]

but i just try to remain positive honestly, even though it’s too much at times

[solemn patio]

Bugs piss me off

[honest fern]

Game was very stable with minimal bugs before this update too

[lean edge]

I wish I never bought this game. I hate that I somehow supported this company that can't even solve the simplest things

[honest fern]

So yea they def did fuck up, i just hope they manage to fix it

[charred birch]

Honestly you should take a break if it’s THAT infuriating, you can come back after a while or you’ll realize you just don’t enjoy the game anymore which is okay as well

They do fix things but they’re VERY slow at it

Which is unsurprising for a small scale team ; but quite bothersome nevertheless

[solemn patio]

You need to take a break, maybe get helldivers 2 and fight for super earth

[spiral tundra]

The thing I need help with is helping the officers not be stressed, I have the moral officer and that but it doesn’t help when they’re shooting on sight and the crims just don’t surrender

[charred birch]

Oh the moral system is SHIT

[honest fern]

Hd2 is goated

[spiral tundra]

dude it’s literally ALL THEIR FAULT

I’m tryna arrest and they just shoot anything with a gun

[restive mulch]

hawk tuah

[solemn patio]

Officer mental health should be based on rules of engagement not whether you kill s guy or not

[charred birch]

Don’t even bother with it at this point, all you can really do is try to get good scores

[spiral tundra]

It is but they cause the killing

[solemn patio]

Irl swat is killing the entire buildings worth of terrorists

[charred birch]

I wish they at least made it so that the more years officers have on their watch the more mentally strong they are

[solemn patio]

“Negotiations have fallen apart, move in.”

[solemn patio]

And you should be able to give them more years by doing more missions

[lean edge]

I'm still trying to figure out how to fix it. As soon as I close the game, I delete it and never come back to it. There are many other games that are worth the time you spend on them...

[charred birch]

But you have officers who’re said to have been serving for 6+ years yet they need therapy after seeing a single person die

[spiral tundra]

Dude most annoying thing yeah

Earlier I was playing the rust one with tunnels, and one crim surrenders, but there’s another behind him shooting at me. So I aim for the guy behind him, and the guy surrendering stands back up after putting the gun down right as I shoot, so I headshot him and lose score

[solemn patio]

Dude this one officer I have JUST WONT GO

[spiral tundra]

Like what are you thinking standing into the line of fire

[solemn patio]

HES GOT LEGIT PLOT ARMOR

[spiral tundra]

For me it’s the whole squad on certain doors

[solemn patio]

No like he wont die or resign hes got plot armor

[spiral tundra]

Oh dang

[solemn patio]

Bro has been traumatized

[spiral tundra]

For me the whole squad dies to a single dude

[solemn patio]

Kevin kimura should be lead atp 😭😭😭

[spiral tundra]

They forget how to aim when shot at I swear

[solemn patio]

Should I do multiplayer

[spiral tundra]

I mean you’re better off finding people here because in publics you might find people who just slaughter everything

[solemn patio]

Doesnt really mattr

To me as long as we pass rn

[sullen glade]

Well anything below C is a failure

[solemn patio]

The AI in this game needs a rework, the community literally fixes half of what the devs should with mods

[sullen glade]

So you don't wwant people shooting everything and everyone up at will

[solemn patio]

I hate looking for that last civ

[spiral tundra]

Fr or the last shooter on elephant

[solemn patio]

Nah if order is brought to chaos we shoul be able to leave

Like dude swat isnt rounding up every civilian atp paramedics are able to do that

[lean edge]

nothing work...

[sullen glade]

Just S tiered half the maps on hard and I give up doing the rest lol

[solemn patio]

They need to work on the main game not stupid DLC tbh

[lean edge]

VOID is dog shit i I won't buy even one of their games anymore

[solemn patio]

What even happened

[spiral tundra]

Well when people go in after they’d probably be quite shocked to find a ton of civilians, so they would

[charred birch]

Neon Tomb soft locked on S rank hard because a civilian will NOT surrender 💔

That’s what happened, reasonable crashout i’d say

[spiral tundra]

And also irl swat deploy a TON of officers to a scene, so they’ll usually have 1-2 entry teams and then another couple teams to secure premises and civilians

[solemn patio]

Just melee

[solemn patio]

Maybe even snipers

[sullen glade]

It's not reasonable calling VOID dogshit over not being able to S 1 map on hard lol

[charred birch]

Oh they tried EVERYTHING, it’s a bug where a civilian is genuinely just stuck in place

[spiral tundra]

Only really on open window open places

[solemn patio]

We need AI snipers tbh

[solemn patio]

Oh thats stupid

[charred birch]

I mean I reckon they’ve had bad previous experiences before so might explain the whole crashout

[tidal acorn]

Anybody here play Ready or Not?

[charred birch]

No we play animal crossing actually

[solemn patio]

Yeah

[sullen glade]

If they're playing hard then yeah, it's so broke, but just play normal difficulty

[spiral tundra]

Another swat guy also said that when they find civs they’ll sometimes give them to someone out of the stack and they’ll secure it, or they’ll leave one officer in every room with civs

[solemn patio]

No we play super mario bros 1 on the NES

[spiral tundra]

How don’t I have the officer role bro

[solemn patio]

You’re magic

VOID really needs to lock in

And hire more ppl

[charred birch]

Will the current issues be fixed ? Most definitely. Will it be soon ? Highly doubt it as they tend to be pretty slow when it comes to fixing things

[spiral tundra]

I love how much replay ability this game has though, it’s not like other campaigns where everything is the exact same over and over

Sadly I know nobody who plays ready or not though

[charred birch]

I think my 600 hours are the proof that this game is in fact very replayable 😭💔

[solemn patio]

We need a 22 lr smg tbh

Itd be less lethal

[spiral tundra]

I just think they should add more variety to secondaries

[solemn patio]

LIKE THE AM180

[charred birch]

Taser being a secondary instead of a deployable would be a first step to making non lethal more diverse

[solemn patio]

Whats up with that bro

[sullen glade]

It used to be but was too OP

[spiral tundra]

Is there a sauer P226 in game

[charred birch]

Well it went from being very good to only being somewhat reliable if you’re carrying it, there’s little to no use in giving it to the AI since they won’t use it unless being told to

[solemn patio]

We need a p320 that goes off and shoots suspects and civs at random in your holster

[spiral tundra]

Also apparently some swat teams use auto pistols

[charred birch]

And good luck looking at a suspect, then using the command to tell them to deploy it while they’re shooting the fuck out of you

[solemn patio]

LIKE I DONT WANT A PEPPERBALL PISTOL

[solemn patio]

They have them in the armory.

But LSPDs got a bunch of surplus weapons I guess

[charred birch]

The game basically screaming at you to go non lethal when there is so little non lethal variety yet so many lethal weapons is quite funny

[spiral tundra]

If not I’d like to see this icl

[charred birch]

beyond achievements i genuinely do not care about S ranking

Going for A or even B ranks makes the game a LOT more enjoyable imo

I may S rank all missions once or twice then almost never touch non lethal again

[spiral tundra]

Only times I’ve got B rank is dead officer

[honest fern]

Non lethal is fun on standard

[lean edge]

Even though the developer of this game was terrible and useless, it still had a great community. I’m glad I got to spend time with you all. Wish you the best of luck 🤜🏼🤛🏼🤍

[spiral tundra]

A rank is the most enjoyable to me, fair bit of challenge while you can still use lethal and arrest suspects

[honest fern]

Good luck ghost, was great talking with you too

[charred birch]

Definitely more enjoyable than it is on hard yeah

[spiral tundra]

But I just love the gun system on this game because of the realism, I like how it isn’t an arcade how most “tactical” games like to make it

[honest fern]

Until they balance out the AI i dont think ill be trying non lethal on hard

[honest fern]

The guns in this game feels great yea

[charred birch]

The gunplay especially is REALLY well done

[spiral tundra]

I adore it, it’s so satisfying watching someone drop without a ton of xp markers and hitmarkers

[solemn patio]

AI is the worst

[charred birch]

Quite a change from COD isn’t it 😭

[spiral tundra]

Yes 😭

[solemn patio]

It took me a bit to get used to

[honest fern]

Ive never played cod games before

[charred birch]

Also you might enjoy Insurgency Sandstorm

If you want to try more realistic shooters

[solemn patio]

BO6 is buttcheeks

[honest fern]

Hows battlefield?

[spiral tundra]

Shame MW servers shut down a while ago, that game was good, especially campaign

[honest fern]

I have bf 1, 3, and 5 but i havent touched them at all

[spiral tundra]

The clean house mission was peak I tell you

[solemn patio]

They need to bring back the old mw games

[charred birch]

MW2019 had so much potential

[spiral tundra]

It was basically a raid and it had no hit markers either

[solemn patio]

Or the old black ops games

[spiral tundra]

Hackers ruined it so bad

[charred birch]

I do not understand how they could possibly have fucked up this bad with MW2 and 3

[solemn patio]

Cod started sucking when unicorn guns spat out rainbows

[toxic harness]

mw2023 is pretty fun

[charred birch]

BO6 was… Okay ? 💔

a little disappointing imo but still enjoyable

[solemn patio]

BO6 mp is garbage and the campaign is just immature

[spiral tundra]

Dude for some reason I took a massive break from all console and stuff a few months after it came out so I missed a lot

[honest fern]

Whenever i watch cod clips theres always ppl wearing random ugly skins, i keep wondering why anyone would buy them

[spiral tundra]

But icl the break helped me cuz I suffered from being online all the time

[charred birch]

I miss original MW kind of outfits

[solemn patio]

Ikr

[charred birch]

Messi skins and all are fun for sure

But warzone fundamentally ruined COD in my humble opinion

[spiral tundra]

I had bo6 battle pass and I liked the Adler skins in it

[honest fern]

Warzone is the battle royale?

[spiral tundra]

For the first season

[charred birch]

Yeah that

[toxic harness]

Yes

[honest fern]

Why? I thoght ppl play warzone the most

[spiral tundra]

Nah they usually play the S&D a lot and tje CQB modes

[toxic harness]

Yeah since MW2019 was seen as a revival while MW2022 dropped it hard, and BO6 stabbing it even further

[spiral tundra]

S&D is PEAK with friends though it’s so funny at times

Campers ruin it tho

[toxic harness]

But it's weird that now I see ppl hating MW2019, but praise MW2023 a lot

[spiral tundra]

I liked the S&D on mw23 and warzone that was about it

But the attachment unlock system was SO bad

[dry thistle]

Servers down?

[midnight lotus]

I LOVE KILLING CIVILLIANS

[amber dock]

Weekly steam maintenance Oui

[midnight lotus]

I LOVE IT WHEN A CIVILLIAN DOESNT PUT HER GUN DOWN I CAN SHOOT THE SHIT OUT OF HER BRAINS

[undone sleet]

you are good cop

[spiral tundra]

But dude civilians actually are trying to get shot on this game

WHY are civilians kicking down doors mid SWAT raid PLEASE

[undone sleet]

thank you for services

[midnight lotus]

im telling yall if i was a cop i would be fired an hour in and my head would be on those acab posters

"i dont lsiten to cops" alright listen to the recoil

[undone sleet]

legal

[loud wasp]

is the game down?

[midnight lotus]

youll only be able to eat soft foods for life after im done with you

[lean edge]

@toxic harness I couldn’t keep quiet and not reply. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t spout nonsense. You weren’t even part of the discussion. What does a bug have to do with skill, you dumb kid?

[midnight lotus]

not for me

[amber dock]

Weekly steam maintenance

[undone sleet]

first do you see suspect, what do you do?

[toxic harness]

What kind of bug that made you to get out of Neon Tomb? It showed that you brought order to chaos?

[loud wasp]

how long does it last?

[amber dock]

Less then 30 min

[honest fern]

He had a civilian refusing to surrender

[toxic harness]

That took him like 50 mins to do that???

[loud wasp]

thank you

[honest fern]

No matter what he did the civilian wasnt sureendering

[undone sleet]

take taser

[toxic harness]

[undone sleet]

or shoot head :3

[honest fern]

Nah it qas a bug even if u tased it wouldnt have worked

[undone sleet]

interesting

[toxic harness]

Oh that one bug where people who knees down aren't considered surrendered

[lean edge]

civ soft lock

[spiral tundra]

I also had a bug like it, civs wouldn’t surrender after melee and taser

[undone sleet]

i thinking, is it a like hulk?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642376869252956161/1076572264465698836/image0.gif

[lean edge]

Instead of making uninformed and wrong comments under my post, maybe try complaining about the situation a little. Who knows, maybe this lazy and irresponsible company will finally get its act together...

[undone sleet]

you make it a ticket?

[lean edge]

you mean bug report fourm ?

[undone sleet]

yeah

[silent cipher]

Hello everyone, I'm almost done with my hard mode run and I'm prepping for iron man to get the hermit achievement. For hard mode i needed to do all main Objectives (capture someone, civs, bring order to chaos), does this criteria still apply or is it just getting the level end to trigger?

[amber dock]

The problem is less that people’s comments are wrongful the problem is that you don’t actually explain and show what’s happened. You simply tell devs to stop stealing money from people without actually explaining what your problem is. Even Mr Eman told you that

[lean edge]

yeah
"Please refer to the guidelines for this forum"
This is their answer and I'm so angry I don't even know what it means.

[amber dock]

Hermit you just need to keep team alive so no KIA’s and get C grade minimum on last map and it will work.

[toxic harness]

"PLEASE FIX THE GAME!"
"Okay. How we can fix it?"
(refuses to elaborate)

[lean edge]

We can't do everything, they're a team, they should be able to solve such ridiculously simple problems themselves...

[amber dock]

The guidelines are pinned at the top of #1050535723087958156 like it can’t be anymore clear then that. And also saying F you to the devs and harassing them doesn’t help anyone.

[silent cipher]

For levels such as relapse, greased palms, does this mean if I save civs but "accidentally" kill the HVT I can't get a c correct?

[amber dock]

Uhhhhhh I’m not super sure about this tbh, if the objective is marked as failed/red X then it might still count as long as grade is C or higher. But also Port doesn’t have a HVT you need to capture so for the other maps as long as game unlock next mission for you it should be fine

[silent cipher]

Thank you kindly

[lean edge]

Do they have the right to annoy so many players by unfinished game ?

[solemn patio]

…

Is he just mad to be mad

[toxic harness]

It kinda seems like it at this point

[amber dock]

You seem to not understand what I’m telling you, this whole issue would not have happened had you actually reported something constructive. Just saying in a bug report forum ‘hey devs stop scamming us of money’ is not valuable info

[crisp glade]

I mean at first I thought it was rage bait, but eh

[amber dock]

You can’t be mad at devs if you yourself don’t actually report what the issue is.

[toxic harness]

He already called me a dumb kid when I told him skill issue for a bug

[amber dock]

It’s like going to a dr and being angry at them for not treating you but you don’t say what the problem is

[crisp glade]

Fair nuff then, ahah

[toxic harness]

Neon Tomb?!

[lean edge]

Do you think I'm the first person to have this problem and just didn't explain it clearly? Several players with high playtimes were aware of the problem before I fully explained it. It's just their laziness that hasn't solved it yet.

[solemn patio]

“IM MAD!! FIX THE GAME!!”
“Okay whats the bug?”
“YOU SHOULD KNOW REEEEE!”

[crisp glade]

Based map, although those mf with the RPD's are something fierce ahah

[toxic harness]

But we got Ides of March folks

[marsh lark]

Patches work on a basis that unless it is something that crashes the game for majority of the players to the point of being unplayable, those things are done in batches, they will not release a single patch so you stop running into an issue with a civ. Wait for the whole patch that covers a lot more, literally just like what happened with LSS#2

[crisp glade]

Nah tbh, Relapse is by far my biggest gripe, always had a winge about the flow of that level

[marsh lark]

At that point it just looks like selfishness on your part because you need your bug fixed and forego literally every other player wanting their fix as well.

[solemn patio]

I have ptsd from RPDs and RPKs being used on me and being perfectly accurate

[crisp glade]

EeYUP

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile those shotgunners are the worst npcs that if you die to them, just delete the game

[amber dock]

And like I told you https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1407482603950313502 this whole argument wouldn’t have happened had you actually followed the guidelines and reported something constructive then just saying ‘devs stop scamming us’

Like even the title of your report doesn’t help anyone

[crisp glade]

Those cult women and their way of spamming their shotguns were SOMETHING ELSE

[lean edge]

I don't need MY BUG fixed. What I'm talking about is that companies have started releasing half-finished games. They've gone too far...
that it's not just me who wasted 3 hours of my time. There are many others too.

[toxic harness]

[spiral tundra]

“Half finished” is crazy

[lean edge]

I just thought it was ridiculous to have to explain it twice when several players knew about the problem before I fully explained it, so the game developer must have known about the problem before

[marsh lark]

Okay, you can complain but Patrick is right in a sense that you do not follow any of the basic feedback rules presented to you, and then are upset that someone tells you off on that.

And generally speaking, just because you suffer a bug that a civ ports somewhere they should not, it does not make it a half released game. By your logic any single bug = half finished game, the argument is rather ridiculous in my opinion.

[toxic harness]

Oh, my models got bugged? Yeah this game is half finished

[lean edge]

If this was just a bug, I wouldn't be so angry, but when I keep encountering various bugs and I don't care, I can't stay silent anymore.

[marsh lark]

Then voice your bugs and complaints, but stop insulting the people. Who are you helping by being toxic?

Constructive criticism rarely involves insults.

[dreamy crow]

I’ve grown to accept the censorship and actually believe it was the best decision to do

[toxic harness]

It's the only way + to get along with country laws that are different

It's like how Wolferstine was available for Germany

[lean edge]

When you sit here silently and tell everyone who talk that you are toxic, things don't get any better than this. No one would call a game an unfinished game if they didn't have a lot of problems with it...

[dreamy crow]

Yea I have a deep understanding and respect for the devs who fought for what was right and decided not to follow the money

[toxic harness]

Well they did try to negotiate with the people and the lawyers so they can pass the game globally

[dreamy crow]

It’s better than what COULD’VE happened

[toxic harness]

Well maybe if you don't break the guidelines when making #1050535723087958156 and complaining to the mods, we would kinda feel bad

[marsh lark]

Point that I am making is that create a report, follow the rules that are presented to you and it will be looked at. If you insult the devs, or anyone for that matter, it will not get better, things will not finish faster. They will progress at the same speed as they were. You reported it albeit rather against the rules, and it will get looked at. They are perhaps aware of it and working on fixing it. However you are not speeding up the process at all, and you know that.

[dreamy crow]

The original deal was, removed missions, characters, total censorship, and basically surrendering any future content decisions to a committee of boomers and so-called “experts”

[solemn patio]

I just got sniped

[marsh lark]

I think that except the censorship, none of it actually held up though. The game will continue with practically the same things and more, what just got removed are pretty much the post mortum dismemberment, and some details hidden ore removed to comply with the rules. However I doubt this truly limits what kind of missions Void can add, there are already extremely dark missions that are still here.

[dreamy crow]

Dont shit on the devs, period.

[marsh lark]

Yeah

[lean edge]

I got really mad because even though I ran into a lot of problems, I still liked the game. But just put yourself in my shoes for a second: after a long, hard day at work you come home, start playing on the hardest difficulty, and after three hours you finally beat it… wouldn’t you be angry too if everything got messed up at the end?

[marsh lark]

I am not trying to say you cannot be upset, you can share your complaint and I doubt anyone is trying to stop you. This whole thing can be summarized into two points. Follow the rules in #1050529506022137876, it will get looked at. And do not insult people or the devs, it is not helping anybody and will just stir arguments. This can all be solved by being civilized about it.

[lean edge]

I’m actually a really patient person — maybe after everything I’ve said you’d think otherwise, but this is honestly the first time in years that I’ve gotten this angry and felt the need to complain

[toxic harness]

[lean edge]

Okay, maybe I'll take some time and explain in more detail later. I'm really tired right now, but a simple problem really ruined my night...

[lean edge]

Sorry if I was rude to you. I got angry for a moment because you unknowingly judged me.

[toxic harness]

You good

[marsh lark]

That is understandable, no one is berating you. We should really just try to be civilized about it though, that way it will work out for everyone.

[solemn patio]

They need to lessen the amount of suspects with the g3

Or make them horrible at aiming, they’re terrorists, not cod quickscopers..

[marsh lark]

Terrorists are not always random people with guns though. Some are organized and trained.

[solemn patio]

Ngl off topic today I noscoped a bot while diving with an anti materiel rifle in hd2

[marsh lark]

gg

[solemn patio]

Arent these guys domestic

Wait no they arent,

[solemn patio]

Maybe the reason they have so many G3s is because they pay hk for alot of them

Like an illegal arms deal

SR16 is so fun to shoot

[spiral tundra]

Most terrorist groups have gun training

[spiral tundra]

I love the SR-16 so much

[solemn patio]

Relapse is highkey rng

[charred birch]

So is Elephant, maybe even more so

[solemn patio]

I wish they removed the g3 from the Jihad store these terrorists shop at

[charred birch]

Not as in it’s difficult to face the suspects they’re actually really easy to deal with, but you only have about 2-3 minutes to take care of the four before they start shooting civilians

One time I got lucky starting from the northern entrance and found 3 suspects in the same room somehow

But other times the shooters are so far away from each other it’s a pain

[wraith pawn]

Does paramedic actually help out with dev watch run? Im on greased palms and about to have an aneurysm

Like if one officer gets shot will he not actually die

[solemn patio]

How do I cheese relapse

[crude prism]

Paramedic will work for dev-watch but does not save The Hermit achievement

[solemn patio]

We need a 7.62 bullpup wont lie

[boreal fossil]

what do you do with the container on that dark waters map
the one that beeps

[buoyant pecan]

SR-2 machine pistol in RoN when

[amber dock]

Nothing

[solemn patio]

Glock 18c machine pistol with brace when

We should be able to equip extended mags for certain weapons

[digital glacier]

wow the new kicking animation is worse than the old one

[vocal sphinx]

we just need an entirely new cosmetic system. trying to make cool outfits with no face coverings and limited clothes/accessories is hard af

[primal gate]

for elephant, would it be better to run ap's or jhp's?

[chilly thorn]

AP

[primal gate]

thanks

[chilly thorn]

For some reason I think they have like the heaviest armor type in the game

[crude prism]

Lvl 4 plates off temu (real)

[chilly thorn]

Shoot them in the upper torso it takes them down faster

I think

[marsh lark]

One time the 5.56 works fine, the second time mfs take 6 bullets and are unfazed

[solemn patio]

i once shot a civ in the chest by accident and thank god they didnt die because it was 5.56

[fallen bobcat]

I shot them "accidentally" a lot. That's fine

[marsh lark]

I mean, 5.56 kills mostly on 2 shots because of the damage value it has. For me though, 5.56 felt like a hit or miss for years now. One time it works perfectly and then it just seems to just graze the enemies, honestly that is why I stuck to .300 BLK or 7.62, or I just stick to modded weapons that seem to have way more responsive ammo that usually is a higher caliber, so it penetrates most surfaces and enemies

Still though, the indestructible, unpenetrable surface is a wooden door frame

[lilac osprey]

Ayo, is Hard Mode supposed to be this bullshit?

[marsh lark]

short answer, yes

[fallen bobcat]

Yes

[lilac osprey]

Goddamn, are there people who enjoy it? It feels like such an unnecessary slog

[fallen bobcat]

Well I'm doing hard S run soo...there is

[boreal fossil]

ready or not js crashed my pc because I invited someone to my lobby 🥀

[restive mulch]

fallout season 2

[crude prism]

certified STK goes from 2 to 5+ when you hit arms moment

[rancid ivy]

Bro

[lilac osprey]

The lack of NCR once again gives me concern

[rancid ivy]

Look at deb

[restive mulch]

fallout season 2

there’s 2 fallouts

[marsh lark]

Oh yeah I know, I read the sheet, either the game's hit reg is really messed up or I am blind. I know I am shooting them in the body and they are unfazed

[crude prism]

controller moment?

the aim-assist has some fucky-wucky because of bullet magnetism, which is causing all kinds of issues

(along with a bug that causes your bullets to come out the barrel backwards)

[raw lodge]

I play without the aim assist. Its too buggy and i'm able to land more precise shots

[crude prism]

it's listed as "off" in controller settings by default, but it's actually enabled

you need to turn it on and then back off in order to ACTUALLY turn it off

[round zenith]

playing with some rebalance mod or another and I just had a bullet pass through two walls and two suspects to kill a civilian

[wraith pawn]

FINALLY GOT GREASED PALMS DONE ON IRONMAN DEV WATCH RUNNN

lesfuggingooooo

[wind phoenix]

Yeah I understand why law officers prefer rounds with less penetration now

For fun was playing with G3A3 because 7.62 fun. It went straight through the suspect and killed a civilian standing behind him lol

[lilac osprey]

Well done

[lilac osprey]

Does JHP not lessen this at all?

[wind phoenix]

Who said I was using JHP

Lol

[lilac osprey]

As i understand it, even with JHPs, 7.62 is still strong enough to defeat all but the rare heaviest armor

[wind phoenix]

Yeah I believe that would make sense

Shotguns are so much fun

[lilac osprey]

M1014, best gun in the game if all you want is satisfying gun feel

[wind phoenix]

I been messing with the 590M

[lilac osprey]

I just can’t abide a mag fed pump shotgun, brain can’t handle it

Like having an AK in LAPD

[wind phoenix]

Embrace the chaos

[lilac osprey]

Could honestly be the motto for the entire game

[raw lodge]

Tapping people with the MKV in rust belt is a feeling

[faint anvil]

Is the Sleeper Agent achievement currently bugged for anybody else?

I've succeeded at the challenge like 8 times now trying to figure out whats not allowing the achievement to go through

[lilac osprey]

I’ve had other cheevos not pop

[faint anvil]

I've killed 15 suspects within 15 seconds of each other like 5 times now, and I've arrested 15 suspects within 15 seconds of each other 3 times. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[amber dock]

Not heard lots of issues with it, the biggest problem with that one is that it’s asking for something very ridiculous in a short time frame. And if you fail the timer it restarts the count back to 0

[lilac osprey]

MkV and shield is legit a top strat for that level

[faint anvil]

After the first few attempts I even put on a trainer to see if I'm just insane and its still not popping even with total hacks

[amber dock]

Suspect increaser mods seems to work well enough. I’ve seen people get it on first try with those mods

Achievement is very heavily dependent on RNG and suspect spawns

[north kraken]

Epic doesn’t hold any save data right? I can change my account on epic and everything stays the same?

[faint anvil]

I can't find a suspect increaser that works on the latest version, do you know of one?

[amber dock]

No it’s tied to the account

[north kraken]

So it’s just used as a way for steam and console to connect only?

[amber dock]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4690

[amber dock]

I’m not following what you’re asking

[north kraken]

I’m on Xbox what I’m saying is if I change the epic account will my data reset?

[amber dock]

It shouldn’t no, your save data is on your Xbox related acc

[north kraken]

Alright just wanna make sure nothing is tied to the epic

[faint anvil]

Seems like the mod doesn't work on 3LT unfortunately

I guess I'll just wait for a patch This game loves wasting my time

[toxic harness]

All cuz the mod no work?

[faint anvil]

No the mod was an attempt to cheat and get the Sleeper Agent achievement because the game is so broken in its current state that after 8 successful attempts of doing Sleeper Agent legitamately it did not pop. Even after installing invincibility and speed mods to force it, still doesn't work.

This issue has plagued the game's achievements for years now and its still ongoing which is just sad. Literally just wasting hours of my day. On top of the tens of hours that the game has already stolen from me because of failed S ranks against the absolutely awful Hard AI.

I thought finally being done with Hard S ranking every map that it would all be downhill from here lol. There's always something!

[restive mulch]

get it legit then

[faint anvil]

0/10 ragebait didn't even read the message 💀

[toxic harness]

Just play the game. No mods

[dire horizon]

Just do a flip

[faint anvil]

Dude actually read if you're gonna reply. Completely missed the point

[restive mulch]

you did

[buoyant pecan]

Just watched the movie 8mm
Definitely adding that to the “movies for fans of RoN” list

And I can see where Zack go the inspiration from its soundtrack like he said

[trim hatch]

Oh my God I can NOT complete Relapse without that NPC at the near the birthday cake area permanently standing; alongside my AI not backing me up and shooting when I'm under fire.

I also knew the following orders like breaching on commands was in issue, but I had no idea it was that bad

[craggy citrus]

anyone got tips for iron man mode? im attempting to get the dev watch

[vast cosmos]

If an officer resigns does the void “the hermit” trophy or am I good?

[lost inlet]

The hermit is completed commander without any officers dying right? Resigns also counts as losing an officer up until hide and seek, you can afford to lose them there.

[primal gate]

tried out Neon Tomb for the first time

trying to non lethal it on the first try and failed in a funny way

turns out every door is bomb proof

tried pushing a door open at the same time an s-bomber did

he blew himself up before I could actually push open the door

so when I finally got the door open I met a pool of blood and some feet on the ground

I also found half the population os syria hanging out behind a bar

thought I was flashbanging one of them and I found four had surrendered behind the bar I fired a flash at

[vast cosmos]

Why until hide and seek?

[lost inlet]

🤷‍♀️

[smoky cedar]

Resignation counts as death

[smoky cedar]

Because that’s the last mission

[vast cosmos]

Well I’m screwed then because I went into a mission with everyone content then all of the sudden two of them are in crisis and the other two quit

You gotta love it

[smoky cedar]

Restart

[vast cosmos]

Nah still gonna try to get the trophy for getting through Ironman mode

Haven’t died yet so I’m going pretty well

[cloud tree]

Does RON on console have a mode where you can watch your games?

Like how do people get a POV of their enemy and shit like that

[muted otter]

Honestly that would be very neat

Not pvp but just enemy pov

[chilly thorn]

Nah your right though sleeper agent is possible to do if your just goated

gotta do a goddamn hotline miami combo for it tho

[desert island]

its just trial and error

run thru the map for 3 mins trying to kill 15 and if u dont get 15 just reload

[toxic harness]

Is "Hidden and Dangerous" just an S rank achievement?

[gusty storm]

Freakygoonbuger067

[restive mulch]

freakyshroodburger

[gusty storm]

Freakygoon067

[robust apex]

question, why hasn't laser/flashlight combo functionality been a vanilla thing?

[ancient pivot]

Holy shit the p90 is a cheat code

[crude prism]

Kaminsky said "soon" to this recently.

So adhering to the soon scale, within now and the heat death of the universe

(probably 5-11 months)

[toxic harness]

Do you know the achievement issues regarding DLC missions?

[crude prism]

Uh, skill issue, just hit all the magic invisible requirements

[chilly thorn]

Dunno why got a gut feeling next update is gonna be pretty big

[crude prism]

Possibly MLO themed, which means lore heavy.

Plus laser/light combo with the "soon" and (possibly) scope toggle?

Sadly scope toggle got the and not "soon", so maybe the one after.

[brave anvil]

@toxic harness so, you said Hide and Seek is the hardest mission to play on hard, right? Welp, i just got passed it on the second try

[chilly thorn]

Ability to change the color of your guns 🙏

[brave anvil]

It definitely is easier than Relapse

[toxic harness]

I am bit biased on saying it's hard cuz I 3 man it and it took so many attempts to get it right

[crude prism]

I'm making mine whichever color bothers people the most (real)

[brave anvil]

I just keeped my tactic: all bots wielding shields and .50 pistols

[chilly thorn]

Imagine Tan and Black Glock 19

[brave anvil]

I just let them do all the work flawlessly

They performed a lot better than in Relapse

[robust apex]

lets hope this will be the reality!

[toxic harness]

Try Hard S ranking it. That overall is a different story and that's what I'm referring to

[chilly thorn]

I would love to get little weapon colors as rewards for achievements and challenges, Nothing too crazy of course, but lets say unlocking a pink glock for doing a hard achievement

[brave anvil]

Ok, i'm not a masochist lol

[crude prism]

Laser/light + variable zoom for the scopes would be GAMING

[brave anvil]

about the next update, i hope they finally fix the damn global illumination and shadows. Get totally rid of the blocky shadows and activate ray tracing

[chilly thorn]

Hope the game actually has animation of adjusting the optics and turning on the lasers and stuff for the Immersion

[crude prism]

I love getting stunlocked in animations, peak

[toxic harness]

Yeah...

[brave anvil]

I play the game since 2021 and it still doesn't have proper optiwand activation animations

That bothers me a lot

[chilly thorn]

hey if you get killed because you forget to turn you laser on and can't do it with telekenisis, thats kinda your fault

[crude prism]

they should just stick pressure pads to every firearm model

[chilly thorn]

ok Im ngl I don't know how like flashlight attachments work Im just assuming that they don't just turn on without any input like they do in game

[crude prism]

for Judge they do, he has the supersoldier neuralink that links him to his firearms

nah but really you can do it without much moving much as long as you have it setup

just a press with a finger from your normal grip position

there's some similar fancy stuff for variable optics, but not really as popular/reliable

thinking about it, the only game in recent memory that even does animations for scopes is Insurgency Sandstorm

not even, Tarkov, Ground Branch, or Arma do that

[stable kernel]

You will accept the lack of animation as a good thing and will imagine it happening in your head and think it is real

[willow grove]

are you still able to do the missions that you have gotten a S on and not have them changed after completing the mission?

[restive mulch]

how much a dollar really cost

[pallid root]

It took me atleast 30 minutes to figure out that the breacher shotgun wasn’t for combat

[tight hawk]

alright time to hop on ron to do the 4th mission

i wonder what it is

[pallid root]

I’m putting off valley of dolls bc I hear it’s scary and fucked up

[tight hawk]

why scary?

[pallid root]

It’s mainly due to the pictures and other suggestive things

[tight hawk]

like?

[pallid root]

Things I don’t wanna talk abt here or anywhere else

[marsh lark]

Basically imagine the typical person who would die within a day of being sent to jail if the inmates found out what he did.

[tight hawk]

[pallid root]

Yes

[tight hawk]

is it only me or does loading take forever??

[pallid root]

It takes around 3-5 seconds for me

[marsh lark]

All in all, you can experience it once you play that mission, the more you look around, the more details you find, the more sick you will feel about the whole thing

[pallid root]

I might have teared up

[marsh lark]

You did not play it though, no?

[pallid root]

Watched lore vids

[marsh lark]

Yeah, i mean if you watched the lore video then yes. It covers pretty much every single detail.

[gritty lava]

Is it weird to like my games to have bugs in them, like it's hilarious watching something that I would least expect to happen, happen

Or like just a random glitch that makes a person look weird, but not like ruin the game

[marsh lark]

I would like to play the very first version of cyberpunk

That shit must be a blast, experiencing every single bug possible and laughing my ass off

[lone crow]

I was playing dayz I had hit a person my car shot like 50 feet in the air lmao

[round zenith]

Cyberpunk 2077 v1 really lived up to the standard 2020 set (not being very finished((in the 2020 corebook there are inconsistencies like the rules of how shotguns work being incredibly contradictory)))

[restive mulch]

h

[tame valve]

hey does the medal of valor achievement count towards multiplayer?

[plain raptor]

Yep, you can mix it up too, have some levels completed on co-op, some solo.

[ancient wave]

what're the requirements for the vr mod

[sly jetty]

Just finished the DLC I need more RoN is there any rumors 👀

[marsh lark]

We are getting another DLC in 2026. In the mean time you could just wait for modders to create/update custom maps at some point.

[sly jetty]

Can't wait game's awesome

[limber wing]

yh im hyped for the next dlc

[marsh lark]

I am also waiting for what it's going to bring

[willow grove]

Will my rank change on S missions i have done if i do them again?

[plain raptor]

The achievement tracks your best ever attempt, like a record. If you've gotten an S rank at some point on a level on Standard, regardless if it was solo or co-op, you'll get progress towards the achievement. Are you on Xbox?

[willow grove]

Yea

[willow grove]

So will it change if I do the mission with a lower rank or no?

[plain raptor]

Haha, no dude, you're good. You should see the achievement's tracker go up by 11% for each level you s-rank.

[willow grove]

Thank god cuz i got S on almost all base game missions and i still want to play them but i was not sure if the rank would change if i got a lower rank. Thanks for the help

[willow grove]

Btw why did you ask if I was on xbox??

[plain raptor]

You're welcome. I asked because then I could tell you what the incriment is on the tracker for a single level.

[willow grove]

Ahh alright what do you play on?

[plain raptor]

Xbox too, that's why I know!

[spiral tundra]

When can you shoot on the neon tomb one

With the bombers