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[limber wing]

same

[worldly ridge]

I'm just tired having to stop bleeding after every single hit while the enemies simply do not care

[sullen glade]

I'm tired of getting 1 shot after taking no damage up til then

[brittle wind]

I kinda see the reason that jhp exists, it can decrease death and increase incapacitates which would give you a slightly higher grade upon beating the mission

[limber wing]

agreed, i think i've probably only used JHP once or twice on a rifle

[brittle wind]

True..

[lean edge]

the biggest problem I have with Neon is that I cant fucking see

[restive mulch]

the MLO is like a shadow government thing

[brittle wind]

I really use wedges a lot to make sure the suspects can’t move anywhere

[toxic harness]

You be seeing the rainbow as someone hugs you. Turns out, he has a bomb and you're dead with him

[limber wing]

i use ap on all pistols except the MK-5 XD

[restive mulch]

so uh how do you get the 50 cal pistol

[stoic thistle]

Brainwashed soldiers I think, there's apparently a trailer that shows them wandering about and worship the Betsy Ross flag.

[toxic harness]

Triple Weapon Pack for Console, or just play PC

[limber wing]

oof nice lol

[worldly ridge]

For some reason (greed) console players need to buy a pack for it. PC players get it free

[restive mulch]

glad us console players have to pay for something PC players get for free

[toxic harness]

I mean I preordered the Deluxe Bundle like a good man :3

[restive mulch]

not everyone is as wealthy and awesome as you pal

[marsh lark]

Console players get the guns on DLC 3 release.

[restive mulch]

im just a peasant

[toxic harness]

I'm a minimum wage worker with savings account

[worldly ridge]

I got the standard edition and got it for free. I own a PC, so apparently I'm in a higher class

[restive mulch]

so I only have to wait like 8 months awesome

[marsh lark]

While it is weird as to why console players do not get it right away and need a DLC for it, it is not that you are never getting it unless you spend more money, it just means you have to wait.

[restive mulch]

my moms kinda homeless

[toxic harness]

PLEASE SPEED I NEED THIS WIN!!!

[restive mulch]

yo speed why are you laughing

[worldly ridge]

what does that even mean

Last time I needed EA support they fixed an issue I had fixed previously and not the one I had, so I just gave up their their tech support

no legit what does it mean? what link?

[solemn patio]

WHAT

[worldly ridge]

I had an issue in BF5 with a challenge not working (cosmetic locked behind it, so I kinda wanted it)
I needed like 20 minutes for the support person to actually understand what I mean.
A few weeks later, I had the same issue with another challenge.
I referenced the previous ticket, clearly explaining that it's a similar issue, just with a different challenge.
They reset the previous challenge's progression (I kept the cosmetics)

I needed to dig deep, but I was able to get an agent (outsourced ofc)

F. Sounds like a new email and new EA account

[lean edge]

why am i getting one shot in Neon on HARD ?

[worldly ridge]

it's hard

Armor doesn't matter and regardless of any circumstances, AI will have perfect accuracy

[lean edge]

This is the third time

[worldly ridge]

Yes, welcome to hard

It's not meant to be fair or fun or good in any way

[marble flume]

Armor certainly helps; rock a ballistic mask and full steel plate armor; just know that you won't really be THAT tanky on Hard difficulty

[worldly ridge]

It's basically "do you know every mechanic in the game to explot it" and a dash of luck

[worldly ridge]

I do. I get one burst by a 9mm in the head

[marble flume]

Steel is the best for repeated shots from the same direction, and it also boosts the chances that you bleed when shot (which is actually a good thing).

It does hurt your acceleration a bit, but lets be honest, you're not dodging shit anyway

[restive mulch]

the AI in this game is soo op

[worldly ridge]

Standard mode is fine.

[marble flume]

Ceramic basically works until it doesn't lol. Guaranteed to stop four shots to one area, and after that your future is not so certain (actually, it is; its just certain death lmao).

Ceramic IS BiS for your SWAT officers though, because they love getting shot from every direction

Not much you can do about that, althoguh DO note that arm and leg shots do very little damage

If you aren't shooting for S ranks, my honest advice is to let the AI do most of the heavy lifting

It honestly doesn't even matter if you lose all four of them; as long as you complete all major objectives and secure everything, you'll get at least a C rank on most maps.

Even losing four officers only costs 380 points as long as you report all of them

[rich cobalt]

was me pepperspraying a suspect after he had barked at me like some kind of rabid bulldog worth the -50 points of unauthorized use of force.

[marble flume]

Yeah, literally the BEST use case for pepper spray is using it on a surrendering suspect so he doesn't shoot you in the back when you go do something else, except that actually gives you a fucking unauth penalty for some reason.

Hilariously enough, I'm pretty sure you could drop a CS Gas grenade on a surrendered suspect and not catch an RoE penalty

you should actually be able to shoot a guy mid-surrender-animation without catching a penalty for it

I dunno, sometimes Ready or Not simply tells you to fuck off and hits you with a -50 penalty for a reason only God could ever explain

[rich cobalt]

it does have a fairly long range, i do it the moment they get on their knees.
in hard mode, suspects have even bigger chances of unholstering a firearm from their waistband when they're on the ground.

i like doing the raid spray technique (rapidly clicking their eyes). saves me more fluid to spray.

[marble flume]

I didn't even fuckin try less lethal on Hard apart from Ends of the Earth lmao

Otherwise, pepper spraying an armed suspect literally just makes them MORE dangerous

oh god no, its pretty godawful

Its not horrible with a team behind you, since they'll cover your ass when the suspect you're spraying inevitably bum-rushes you while blind (for some reason), but the Tazer is basically a one-shot down

Shit, even if the Tazer doesn't work, you can just dry stun them repeatedly until they give up lol

[limber wing]

lol true

[marble flume]

yeah Gas is absolutely borked still. Tazer, beanbag shotgun and flashbangs are the ONLY good less lethal

The pepperball gun barely works on Standard, don't even fuckin try it at all on Hard lmao

[limber wing]

beanbag is life ❤️

[toxic harness]

I chose to trade my M32A1 for the Beanbag

[rich cobalt]

that's why i save it for when they are getting on the ground. get too close when they're hesitating to drop their weapon is just asking for a bullet to the face.

[marble flume]

thats just called "not being a coward" lmao

[marble flume]

If they're hesitating, that is PRIME Tazer material. Its completely silent and instantly stuns the target, and also deals enough morale damage to virtually guarantee a surrender.

Its actually completely impossible for pepper spray to stun a suspect; basically the only way to even make a guy surrender with it is to make him empty his entire magazine towards you

the SWATs are about as garbage with the pepper guns as they are with the beanbags lmao, although I still found that they did much better with the beanbag shotguns

the ONE advantage of the pepperball guns is they leave a solid fart cloud if you fire a bunch in one area, so when you down a suspect with it they're ALSO stunlocked for a bit choking on the fart gas

Oh, forgot that C2 is actually pretty solid too; instant arrest if there's a guy right behind the door

pepperball guns actually deal direct stun damage even outside of the gas effect, so they still aren't terrible even if the gas isn't great

They're godawful on Hard though, as you need to land SIX shots to stun a suspect ONE time

[lean edge]

I had steel armor and ballistic mask and I hadn't even been shot, but I got one shot.

[marble flume]

I doubt its a one-shot; you probably just got fuckin g-checked in the face with like three back to back headshots. I've seen clips of this shit happening lmao

It essentially happens so fast it effectively IS a one-shot, even if you don't technically die in one hit

[sullen glade]

I'm getting so sick of port on hard, how did anyone S tier it?!

[marble flume]

If you're at full health and you're wearing a helmet, its literally impossible to actually die in one shot

[marble flume]

I barely got a C after several days lmao. All I can say is "good luck", really

I think the right side of the map is generally a better push than the left side; there's just way too many murder angles over there. Still, have your AI rock Full Ceramic and send them in first

I was using shotguns for a long time, but I actually got my successful run on a JHP G36

[restive mulch]

what is this? some kind of….ready or not?

[covert pulsar]

no but it feels good to sound like a juggernaut

[bleak shard]

Do you guys know when the next dlc is coming out

[twilit mulch]

not any time soon since we only recently received Stories from Los Sueños. Probably not for another 6 months

[sullen glade]

Does anyone have the "I'm too old for this" achievement? just finished it but it says i'm missing 1 mission

[amber dock]

It’s very buggy sadly with tracking progress. For me it worked just fine but for some reason for others it’s very buggy. You only really can just retry missions until you get it sadly

[pallid tapir]

Somewhere along 2026

Im wondering where the next dlc will go lorewise the 3 letter triad was kind of a cliffhanger as well as port hokan with that FISA container

I could imagine a level where you face corrupt FISA agents protected by their FISA HRT (that would be a nightmare on hard)

[restive mulch]

why would we be fighting fisa exactly

[stoic thistle]

Rogue Fisa perhaps, like the secret service agents in sins of the father.

[pallid tapir]

The greased palms corrupt FISA agent and the port hokan FISA agent that orders you to close the container full of woman could be part of a bigger network connected to government higher ups in a corrupt branch of that agency

Like the human traficking wing of FISA is corrupt

[restive mulch]

the FISA dude in greased palms is wanted by FISA and the FISA dude in the port is doing the logical thing, making sure the trafficking victims aren’t killed in the middle of a raid

if FISA was apart of the trafficking ring they would’ve never ordered the raid on the port in the first place

[pallid tapir]

True altough his text was in red so it makes me sus

[jagged quartz]

So their not killed in the raid is really not why he makes you close the door

[restive mulch]

all the enemies in game are yellow text, it’s just to show you aren’t talking to TOC anymore

[restive mulch]

yeah instead of letting these half naked women, who are probably extremely traumatized, out into the open in the middle of a monsoon in the dark of night

[pallid tapir]

But the lack of a debrief makes me wonder what happened after the raid anyway its never told by the game what happens after that raid like an open ending

[jagged quartz]

The guy literally says their part of an ongoing fisa operation. It's to keep that operation going. The woman ain't being taken out of that container once you finish the mission lol

[restive mulch]

there’s never a debrief after any mission

[restive mulch]

yeah because FISA is the one investigating the trafficking ring? they ordered the fucking raid bro

[pallid tapir]

I know thats why im wondering what happens after that as it is the last mission of the main campaing

[jagged quartz]

Yeah but my point is you leave the woman in there to be trafficked somewhere else dude

[restive mulch]

we learned that the trafficking ring (the spider) goes much deeper than voll (auction house) and im assuming that is way out of the LSPDms jurisdiction

[restive mulch]

that makes no sense at all. if FISA knew where the container was and where it was headed they never would’ve had SWAT go and secure it for them

do you think the people who come in after you aren’t going to secure the crates with the giant glowing logos on them and are going to let random suspicious people take them or something?

[jagged quartz]

You handcuff every other civilian you find in every other level, including the port

You don't handcuff them

[pallid tapir]

I meam FISA being an stand in for IRL FBI could be corrupt as hell as in real life i wouldnt be surprised if that FISA agent from greased palms got burned by his own

[restive mulch]

there’s like 10 people in the container it’s easier to close it and continue than personally detain every single thing

[restive mulch]

FISA found out he was corrupt and told you to arrest him what are you talking about

[jagged quartz]

Exactly. Fisa are probably gonna traffic them to find out more information about where they go and what happens

[restive mulch]

that makes no sense at all still

[jagged quartz]

You have far far far too much trust in American intelligence agencies. It must be nice being that naive

[restive mulch]

do you think the trafficking people wouldn’t know what happened at their port where they trafficked everyone?

[jagged quartz]

They might lie, or just not say lol

[restive mulch]

im glad we’re going into real government corruption to talk semantics about a fake agency in a video game

[jagged quartz]

A game that's quite heavily based on real life

[restive mulch]

LIE ABOUT WHAT?!? literally everyone and I mean EVERYONE at the LSPD who watched you through the head cams knows what’s going on

[jagged quartz]

Levels are taken from literal real world events

[restive mulch]

not everything everywhere is a conspiracy against the world bro

[jagged quartz]

Im not saying everything is, just this one specific thing

[pallid tapir]

I mean CBP is acting sus right now IRL

[stoic thistle]

Irl yes, but RoN has conspiracies happening in the background.

[restive mulch]

this is “we didn’t land on the moon” levels of naivety

[jagged quartz]

No lol it's really not

[restive mulch]

none of the points you made about fisa being inside the trafficking ring makes any sense

[jagged quartz]

The cia did do mk ukltra, torture balck sites, etc. Everyone knows you can't fully trust them.

[pallid tapir]

Exactly like judge got told by a USIA agent who was aquianted with him to raid those mercs in 3 letter

[restive mulch]

you know fisa is the one who ordered the raid on the port right…? why would the trafficking men order their trafficking ring to be hindered?

[jagged quartz]

Just because they ordered the raid doesn't mean they don't have an alternate motive

[pallid tapir]

To distract from a bigger op

[restive mulch]

which is…?

[stoic thistle]

Trafficking, false flag op, any number of things.

[restive mulch]

you’re right! the trafficking bad guys are doing more trafficking by stopping the trafficking….

[pallid tapir]

Im waiting for VOID to fill in the void ba dum tss

[toxic harness]

I wish I can see npcs being like "THE HURRICANE WAS FAKE! THEY CONTROLLED THE WEATHER!"

[restive mulch]

fisa controls everything trust me bro

[stoic thistle]

The USIA is the real puppetmaster.

[pallid tapir]

Yep

[toxic harness]

USIA volunteered the Leviathan Operation!!!

[restive mulch]

the FNAHAHQUQAMN controls everything that goes on

[jagged quartz]

Enjoy being wrong

[toxic harness]

As if that will do anything:3

[restive mulch]

ok

[toxic harness]

When I Hard S rank every mission, I need a treat like a cookie

[restive mulch]

what if the LSPD is just the county HOA

[fiery vortex]

But we aren’t complaining people to death.

[next sigil]

So I'm doing the achievement to complete all missions on 'Hard' mode.
Somehow I have 16 missions done on Hard mode (save file created after the update), and the achievement is only counting 15/18 atm while I'm on 16/18

How do I see which mission it didn't count, so I don't have to redo the entire thing from 0?

[rustic jackal]

some missions require a certain ranking to count like greased palms required a B and above

[tame osprey]

I having issues with CS gas. I'll gas the fuck out of a room with suspects (multiple grenades and a full mag dump of the cs launcher) and they'll just.... not react at all.

[next sigil]

oh boi

Just 3 more missions and I've 100%'d the achievements again

[rustic jackal]

yeah I’m not sure which need a certain ranking

I only know greased from personal experience

[next sigil]

I hate Greased Palms so much

[rustic jackal]

welcome to the club I hate Johnny bravo more than anything else

[toxic harness]

I love Greased Balls!!

[rustic jackal]

us lesser men know it as greased hell

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile a man like me would enjoy that map

[rancid ivy]

Whats the best gun

[lone oracle]

pepperpall pistol

[rustic jackal]

SLR 16

[lone oracle]

or lockpick gun

[rancid ivy]

K

[rancid ivy]

Greatest gun 10/10

[weary finch]

Hello, someone know how to delete " Quick Play " saves ?

Because when I play on this mode, ive got constant micro-stutterings but when i play on a fresh new save of Commandent mode, it doesnt stutter

[toxic harness]

Check your save files by going to Single Player and Commander Mode

[weary finch]

Im afraid to not understand

[toxic harness]

Main Menu > Select Single Player > Select Commander Mode to see your save files. There will be a button to delete any of the 3 save files

[weary finch]

Ok thanks, i didnt know there were such option in game

[weary finch]

Ah yes indeed, but its just 3 saves of Commander mode, not Quick Play ?

[toxic harness]

Quick Play is just quick play. No need for save files for it

[weary finch]

Yea so there is a save somewhere if it remember what loadout and customisation you have, because when you shut the game on a specific loadout, it will be the same when you return

Im trying to find a way to delete this because my Quick Play mode is full of stutterings when i Play

And its not the case with récents commander saves

[toxic harness]

For loadout screen, it will be different on both Commander and Quick Play/Multiplayer

[weary finch]

There is cache for QuickPlay its sure, and i think delete it will erase my problems, cause the problems were gone in commander mode when i started a new saves

I modded my game a lot so i think something might have been corrupted

[toxic harness]

Yeah maybe delete the mods you don't use anymore

[weary finch]

Unfortunaly ive already tested this

[toxic harness]

What if I... play with random people to see how interesting the community are...

[uncut widget]

Do suspects on Leviathan have any armor?

[toxic harness]

Yes

[lament knot]

New to the game looking for people to play with anyone down with a mic

[toxic harness]

#🔎looking-for-players

[magic stone]

When is the horde mode coming?

[neon yew]

Damn there’s no better feeling in the world than finally S-ranking valley of the dolls

[civic phoenix]

Gasmask lense color options would be pretty cool

[languid dagger]

Is 2 nutritionist 1 vet and 1 intimidator a good ironheart set up?

[rancid ivy]

How many people can you have in one game?

[restive mulch]

6-7

[rancid ivy]

I can't tell if you are making a joke

[restive mulch]

why would I be joking

[rancid ivy]

The joke 67

[restive mulch]

?

I don’t get it

[rancid ivy]

Nvm thanks

[restive mulch]

no it’s only 5 people I was messing with you

[toxic harness]

S rank Hide and Seek, and 3 Letter Triad :3

[rancid ivy]

Gay

[indigo heath]

where can i get the updated patrol officer mod

[grave helm]

Anyone have tips on shooting accurately with the shield? I’m running a MK-V and can’t for the life of me hit anything

[magic hearth]

Got a laser?

they help massively

[grave helm]

I do but still suck. I suppose it’s just a skill issue on my part then?

[magic hearth]

Don't be put off by it it's not easy especially with how small the laser dot can become

what I'd say is get controlled shots in because the wrist flick of recoil can make the dot hard to track

[stone bay]

Hello guys, someone knows if I do dark waters on S rank multiplayer, do I still get the achievements?

[grave helm]

It also doesn’t help when the shield’s all busted and can’t see lol

[uncut widget]

Yea

[grave helm]

You should yea

[stone bay]

Thanks, cuz the AI its really dumb and suddenly dies

[uncut widget]

I know the pain

[magic hearth]

Don't worry you'll master it best thing is don't go crazy on the trigger try and get shots in when the recoil resets because you should see the laser much much better

[uncut widget]

Do you play on multiplayer with shield?

[still harbor]

It'd be great to have an experienced player view some of my gameplay clips to give me feedback and tips to improve, especially when I've run missions solo. If anyone would like to help with this DM me!

[grave helm]

Ok and yes

[magic hearth]

I'm down

[uncut widget]

Can your teammate navigate you when you blind with shield?

[still harbor]

DM'd!

[toxic harness]

Wtf the artist is here. Hallo

[grave helm]

Why is the text for people joining and leaving in Spanish instead of English for me?

[grave helm]

Been joining a lot of quiet lobbies

[uncut widget]

Then, it should be fine

[magic hearth]

👋

[uncut widget]

Just let teammates stand behind your shield and let them shoot suspects on sight, you don’t have to pull out your pistol, just keep the shield

And crouch

[toxic harness]

Do you think we will have more The Hand presence? And do we have some connection behind the school shooters in Elephant?

[lofty hearth]

ANY NEWS ON THE NEXT PATCH ? KAMINS SAID SOON BUTT IT'S NOT COMING SOON ENOUGH !!!

[jagged carbon]

Chill

Eat a snickers bar

Maybe do what I’m doing taking a break from RoN and playing halo 3 odst

[lofty hearth]

BUTT

[jagged carbon]

Shh just chill

[lofty hearth]

🍑

[jagged carbon]

I know I understood from the start but trying to make you chill out even though your likely calm is fun

Anyways I gotta sleep

[lofty hearth]

ALRIGHT SLEEP MA BOI

[candid wing]

Does the angled grip give more ads speed than the combat grip?

[toxic harness]

Ah yes my game froze on me on Greased Balls

After I...

• Hard S Dorms
• Hard S Stolen Valor
• Hard S Leviathan
• "The Hanged Man" achievement grind
• Hard S 3LT
• Attempt to Hard S Greased Palms

[fiery vortex]

25% faster then combat which is 10% faster then normal.

Smaller dead zone too but I’d use combat. Much more horizontal recoil reduction for funny laser beams.

[candid wing]

And is the accuracy increase from the combat noticeable?

[fiery vortex]

Not accuracy more so stability

[candid wing]

Wish this was detailed

What gear do I use for coop?

[fiery vortex]

It’d be nice to have it written, but if you want to have the most accurate experience via lowest recoil, SFMB and Vertical/TH grip

Combined you get -50% vertical recoil on any rifle you use both one

[fiery vortex]

Based on role but I recommend at least two tasers, 1 lock pick and rest is AP ammo.

[candid wing]

How do I pick a role? What room is that?

[fiery vortex]

It’s more just communication

“Hey I’m running heavy armour and shield, lemme go up front”

Everyone gives themself a team role

Most players though pretty much play as pointman every chance they get since it’s most fun

If you wanna do pointman, full heavy ceramic for anything but rifles. If a good amount of enemies run rifles run full heavy steel as it is better against rifles.

Under no circumstance run Kevlar, the protection is greater in need then mobility.

If you wanna do any other role go light armour ceramic since it’s versatile

[fiery vortex]

Optional but could have a guy use stab vest and give him the role of tactical/gadgets guy. Make him stun, breach open doors and take a look with camera type stuff

[fiery vortex]

Super Destroyer maintenance bills due?

[wraith gale]

all on auto pay

[fiery vortex]

Understandable, anywho

A hypothetical 5 man “dream team” has 3 pointman, 2 support. 1/3 pointmen takes the role of a physical shield and barrier, other two kill everything inside the room prior to entry. Two support assist the rest and make sure stuff is safe

1/3 point have shield, other two run whatever. Support 1 needs a mirror and other either a breaching shotgun or the flash/gas heavy tactical.

[candid wing]

Are all the weapons viable?

Ar's

[round zenith]

They are if you're a bad enough dude to rescue all the civilians

[ancient pivot]

Why is the magnum such a shit gun

[fathom laurel]

I can't believe they actually just ignored all the criticism until it went away and it actually worked

they didn't really fix all that much either

[toxic harness]

It's just a regular .357, not a true magnum that has a stronger caliber

[toxic harness]

ARs are viable but if you want to do more serious damage, ditch every 5.56 weapons

[ancient pivot]

Can the ai use other guns in the way out west achievement

[fiery vortex]

Yes but smaller is better for CQB.

7.62 is better for armour but 5.56 is faster, lower recoil and general purpose

Run the F90 IMO for best of all worlds, SR-16 with vertical recoil reduction build for smoothest (imo) in class recoil that I tested so far

If you want to see how strong the recoil reduction is, try it on any of the 7.62 nato rifles on full auto. Especially the SCAR-H

[fiery vortex]

Revolver, slower rate of fire and less attachments. 5.7 is optimal, Mark IV for power.

[smoky glade]

Hello?

[onyx dock]

Who is better for S ranks on hard? A negotiator or a pacifier?

[pseudo plaza]

neither run 4 armorers

[plush mulch]

breach shotgun vs ram vs C2. Which one better to use for S rank?

[narrow geode]

C2 can kill

[toxic harness]

Ram overall is the best.
C2 can knock down anyone, or kill.
Breaching Shotgun can depend on the door type. Best for wood doors, but you may want a low sound profile to not aggravate the suspects

[narrow geode]

Or you can use lockpick gun

[toxic harness]

Way better, but if there is like rarely any doors, just use that one slot as extra ammo

[plush mulch]

but isnt ram loud as well? and can trigger other suspects in the next room?

[toxic harness]

Yeah but it's a lot more efficient to a kick when you get injured. But again, lockpick gun or multitool exists

[plush mulch]

dang yeah I forgot bout that tool

[toxic harness]

Multitool could work but if you want to be quick, ram or lockpick gun

[lone crow]

I keep a kicker on team n have all of em rock heavy armor n rifle/ subs non lethal and use the bean shotgun myself almost done S ranking everything that way

[plush mulch]

wait so the reason sometimes suspect can stand by behind door and aiming at the door its cus they hear us use multitool to picklock?

[calm fractal]

I think so. Every time I’ve used multi tool they usually hear me. But they also seem to have enhanced hearing and can hear me breathe so idk

[marsh lark]

Picklocking with multitool can be heard by suspects, yes

[lean edge]

Armorer effect only applies once

[restive mulch]

do any effects stack?

[haughty oriole]

Just shoot piercing rounds through the door and destroy it. You need to picklock the suspects deadbody

[lean edge]

Armorer and kicker :NO
intimidator : stack up to 2×
other traits : stack up to 4×

[haughty oriole]

Also tbh there's no actual way to play a full mission stealth

[ancient pivot]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[jolly verge]

Suspects can't hear picklocking and peeking the door

[jolly verge]

Both with M32A1

[haughty oriole]

so apparently now you can't open your door + turn around to avoid exploding

[marsh lark]

Was that changed with recent updates? I am pretty sure it also says in the tutorial that suspects can hear picklocking unless you use the lock pick gun

[haughty oriole]

They changed a lot of things. You rather go read the Los suenos #2 update list on the internet. It's all written there

[wide verge]

Does swat ai friendly fire themselves with the new launcher?

[jolly verge]

Always been like this, lockpick gun will just open the door faster than default multitool

[lone crow]

On maps ik got traps I use the breaching shotgun from a distance haven’t died once doing it this way yet

[wide verge]

The few seconds it opens doors faster is barely worth the equipment slot I feel

[lone crow]

I feel the same way, I rock
Kicker-1
Pacifier -2
Medic-1
Imo it’s a good balance for tryna get S non lethal

[wide verge]

I only play quickplay

[lone crow]

What about the drip tho lol

[wide verge]

All unlocked

The stress management is just annoying to me

[lone crow]

Fr tho

[marsh lark]

Alright, I don't know if I misheard or misread it. Thanks though

I for example don't remember ever playing Ironman mode for the watch, yet I still have it. I used cosmetics unlocker once and that was long time ago, doubt all of it should stay unlocked after removing it

[warm falcon]

question guys. In which version did the devs make the game less graphic?

[marsh lark]

With the console release

[warm falcon]

which specific version?

[lone crow]

All console, pc is the only graphic

[warm falcon]

oh, the less graphic version is only for console?

[wide verge]

Rage bait

[warm falcon]

So you’re saying the person who’s genuinely asking is rage baiting?

ok

[lone crow]

I think him saying rage bait was the bait lmao

[marsh lark]

For PC and Console, it came with the console release

[warm falcon]

alr, thanks for the info

[lone crow]

Fr? I thought it was just on console

[marsh lark]

No, some LOD was lowered even on PC

[lone crow]

Oh okay thanks for clearing that up g

[marble flume]

lockpick gun op

[vague osprey]

are silencers effective in this game?

[wide verge]

I think silenced shots are still heard but dont raise suspect stress level as much as without suppressor

[night field]

Negative. Two Negotiators Two Intimidators, half the time people surrender to your shouting even through walls.

[lone crow]

Imma have to try this 🔥

[marsh lark]

Correct

[night field]

Super OP

Because the Intimidators make the Negotiators more effective

I didn't get two and two until I was almost done with my Ironman, but they certainly helped the last 4 missions

[floral peak]

i use 2 negotiators, intimidator and pacifier

[night field]

That's also effective for S ranks.

[floral peak]

ikr, thats how i done my 26 hard s

[tiny iris]

they are in some scenarious but the usual reason for me to use them is because i dont like loud gunshots ringing in my head

[vague osprey]

Copy That

[gilded oar]

I am playing with a random host (WOLF) and he has a extreme Ai mod and he is TAKIN it SERIOUS

and I mean SERIOUS

[trim lava]

Question to everybody how come that when you´ve done the mission on S-Rank mp, that somehow it´s not counting on sp?

[amber dock]

On quick play it should sync but commander mode it does not because it uses its own tracking scores and times

[trim lava]

So you can still get the trophy, if you do it on quick play?

[amber dock]

Uh huh

All achievements can be done in any mode minus the commander mode specific ones and the trait ones

[trim lava]

which are then the commander mode specific ones?

[amber dock]

The world,The hermit,door kickers,the emperor and what’s in the box.

What’s in the box is easy though since it just requires you to enter evidence room. It’s locked in quick play for whatever reason

[bold hollow]

alr this is a unpopular opinion but if you wanna beat the game for the first time rlly fast go kill everyone on casual and it makes it faster

[bold hollow]

is that a good idea though

[marsh lark]

Surely you only mean suspects, right

[bold hollow]

no i mean everyone

even the civis

[marsh lark]

uhhh

[old rain]

does anyone know if theres a mod that makes the rag doll more realisitic. like when i kill people i dont want them jumping 20 feet in the air type shit.

[marsh lark]

That generally should not happen no matter what.

[open harness]

I'd like to sincerly apologize to the dev team for crashing out about the 25gb update, i dont know what the fuck they did, did they hire a wizard to cast spells on the code or something, but the game is somewhat more smooth and stable than it used to be

[toxic harness]

Damn

[old rain]

im certain i can recreate this consistently. if i have a civi or bad guy cuffed and shoot them they fly

i average rn abt 100ish frames

[marsh lark]

That may be, but you are not really supposed to shoot restrained subjects anyways

[rustic jackal]

are you referring to suspects bunny hopping upon death?

[old rain]

ye

[rustic jackal]

funny ass bug won’t lie

[limber wing]

agreed lol

[rustic jackal]

It happens to non restrained ones as well

[old rain]

i would like them to just fall

[marsh lark]

I do not think it was exactly 25GB, sure it was some but after downloading, it should have compressed its self into a way smaller size.

[marsh lark]

Never had that happen to me personally.

[old rain]

like in the 2nd mission i may or may not shoot the mom in the head every single time and she just flys

[toxic harness]

That shi is just funny

[rustic jackal]

well experiences differ from player to player

[toxic harness]

That happened to me a lot lol

[rustic jackal]

bro they be hitting the ceiling sometimes for me bro and I just start laughing and die mid gunfight 😭

[lean edge]

Guys what are the best officer traits for HARD S?

[toxic harness]

When I did Way Out West, they be flying like flies when I hit them with a .357

[rustic jackal]

this is all you echo

[toxic harness]

I played with real people, NOT CLANKERS

[rustic jackal]

maybe it’s the caliber of bullet that helps determine if they do the funny hop I will religiously run that as a secondary now

[rustic jackal]

you’re a funny man 😭

[toxic harness]

One of them was in cover that when I tap their head, they fly up

[rustic jackal]

that’ll show them puff on gunpowder instead of other drugs

[old rain]

cant wait for the update when they make the 1-12x scope zoomable (im not downloading the mod its kinda shit)

[toxic harness]

Yo kids you should try snorting gunpowder. You know keep the caliber store in business man

[amber dock]

2 negotiators plus armorer and nutritionist. If you run grenade launcher then 2 pacifiers can be good also

[rustic jackal]

I envy your mods 💔

[old rain]

i just play with the one that gives more ai and lesses recoil

[rustic jackal]

black powder over white powder any day

[old rain]

and when i play there are no survivers

[lean edge]

ok thx mate 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[toxic harness]

Skill issue

[rustic jackal]

I would be the happiest soul in RoN if I could add 60 suspects on relapse

[old rain]

i play spider and the CP mission just for killing people

[rustic jackal]

after doing everything in the game this is all I do now

[old rain]

samer

i did valley of dolls and it made me shit myself the first time

[rustic jackal]

just run and gun who needs cqc when you can gun down suspects like John wick

[marsh lark]

If you use vanilla weapons then just download Ballistic's attachment expansion and Grey's vanilla expansion together and you get a EXPs sight with a magnifier that you can retract any time you want

[old rain]

wrong mission the one with the cult ladies

[rustic jackal]

Dorms did that for me alone 😭

[rustic jackal]

I love gunning down the cult

[marsh lark]

That way you have a normal 1x and 2 or 2,5x (idk what zoom the magnifier has)

[limber wing]

my first time on dorms was just annoying asf this one guy just kept outflanking me constantly

[rustic jackal]

they should let us use the cracks if some moron decides to go in without a vest on 😭 like me right here

[old rain]

i dont wanna @ one of the devs but please for the love of christ give the fuckin 1014 a god damned fucking holo sight

[limber wing]

fr lmaoo

[toxic harness]

Put it to #📩feedback-reports-channel

[rustic jackal]

let’s ask for what we really need, glocks with switches

let me go up against a gas station thug praying w his button

[old rain]

the glock sounds like a little baby eating dipers i refuse to run it. also its extremely fucking weak

[toxic harness]

I need gunsmith so I can make a gun build that is still better than a P320, but is dogshit

[limber wing]

get me a glock with a 50 round drum mag and a switch, very tactical indeed

[rustic jackal]

see this guy gets it

[toxic harness]

THe Hand finna run while I walk with a blicky with a drum

[limber wing]

lol

[old rain]

run a 416 with fmj on brixly's so i can hear them scream before i kill them

[toxic harness]

They'll learn to not fuck with us. They gonna let us bomb another village

[ancient pivot]

Hello

[limber wing]

when they adding a harpoon gun to the game

[ancient pivot]

lol this

[limber wing]

it would really add to the realism

[old rain]

they should add a black powdered revolver

[ancient pivot]

Lightsaber

[old rain]

reload animation takes 3 minutes to full refill

[limber wing]

they should drop an american civil war dlc

[toxic harness]

More missions against the Left Behind, and we get to fight the Bikers finally

[limber wing]

yeah

[rustic jackal]

hear me out terrorists dancing on the dance floor on neon tomb

[toxic harness]

They getting jiggy with it

[rustic jackal]

It would add more shock value and aura if I seen quadamah bussin it down

[limber wing]

you kick the door down and see him and his crew all busting a move in sync

[old rain]

how about a mode that makes everyone the same ai moddel so its actually fun to figure out if someone is bad or not.

but the ai model is just the naked women from neon tomb

?

[rustic jackal]

All with S-vests too

[toxic harness]

A naked woman with A Naked Gun

[rustic jackal]

naked bullets and naked buns

[limber wing]

idk, it would be pretty intimidating to be ran up on by a stripper with a supernova shotgun or smth

[rustic jackal]

habana and amaru on their off days 😭💀

[old rain]

just a drako running up on you or a fully kited ar-15

[toxic harness]

We should one hand smgs

[rustic jackal]

we should hold pistols sideways

[limber wing]

start dual wielding mp5's

[limber wing]

ghetto swat officer

[rustic jackal]

pull the pin of a flashbang with our teeth

[toxic harness]

We should have hate speech for more authenticity

[rustic jackal]

not ghetto, cultured 😎

[toxic harness]

Well for suspects to us

[limber wing]

[marsh lark]

Yeah, Gunfighter mod does that

[rustic jackal]

I think the line “come here piggy piggy works”

[rustic jackal]

I wouldn’t know I’m a console player

let’s make the impossible happen, mods for ronsolers

[toxic harness]

You are such an animal, like a pig! OINK!

[marsh lark]

I mean fair, just saying that people use mods for that yeah.

[rustic jackal]

I want to get called a fat hog that would be W immersion

[rustic jackal]

what’re the best mods in your opinion

[toxic harness]

I want to be called a pink skin

[limber wing]

whenever i play with ai teammates they sure love to aim more precisely when targeting someone that shouted smth at them

[rustic jackal]

I want a yell for compliance where I get to call tweakers zombies

[rustic jackal]

they have better aim on me when I kill a civ accidentally than they do against suspects man

[toxic harness]

I want either a private agent or a meth head calling me oinkers

[marsh lark]

I use so many mods that if one of them would stop working I would be finding the culprit for a straight hour. However Uncensored or Not to revert the hidden graphic details, Gunfighter to improve the weapon gameplay and custom weapons. I for example got the MCX Spear, MG338, Scar H/L etc. And I love the MG338 cuz you can rip their arm off with one or two shots

[toxic harness]

(im pushing the mod's buttons with this one)

[trim lava]

Question can you still get S-Rank, if one office is down?

[toxic harness]

No

[limber wing]

like no tf you can not hit a shot on me with a G19 from the other side of the vineyard wtf

[rustic jackal]

Im jealous 😭 what about the zombie mod ever play it?

[rustic jackal]

they’re MLO sleeper agents confirmed as seen here with your statement

[limber wing]

fr tho

[limber wing]

and yh no u gotta have everything done perfectly

[marsh lark]

I do not know if it is updated honestly, I never used it. I use No Crack for AI to adjust how the AI acts, I use no Mercy for Terrorists for when if these mfs do not want to go down in the first two compliance yells I smoke em and Wanted: Dead or Alive because I cant be asked trying to capture some idiots that hide behind their goons and want to wage a war with me with their shitty pistol

[toxic harness]

S rank is supposed to be the perfect run where all officers are alive, all suspects alived and detained, and every civilian are safe

[rustic jackal]

It seems you know Johnny Bravo and Zahir very well 😭

[limber wing]

and all evidence secured aswell

[marsh lark]

And of course because I dont want to keep Voll alive

Remember, I use MG338, that means 100 rounds per mag. If I take 3 mags, his body can become a bullet sponge. And then I take the MKV because .50 Action Express casually 1taps everything except 1 or 2 levels where you need to shoot 2 times.

[toxic harness]

Entry to TOC, the chat is dead, requesting chat revival

[marsh lark]

negative

[toxic harness]

FISA GET OUT OF HERE

[marsh lark]

You are FISA

[toxic harness]

Nuh uh

[marsh lark]

I hate FISA

[toxic harness]

Who doesn't

[marsh lark]

some people

[limber wing]

close the DOORS

[marsh lark]

I would not close the DOORS

[limber wing]

unless you want to interfere with a FEDERAL investigation..

[spiral tundra]

Just failed a mission cuz I panicked and shot their leg 😭

Final dude too

[limber wing]

what mission was it

[marsh lark]

I will interfere with a FEDERAL investigation

[spiral tundra]

The data centre

[limber wing]

Mission Failure

[spiral tundra]

But so far I’m loving the game

[marsh lark]

Negative, I got USIA backing me up

[limber wing]

oh mindjot is annoying lol

[spiral tundra]

Got good scores on every mission too

[limber wing]

nicee

[spiral tundra]

Dude they be coming out of.nowhere

[limber wing]

boi this is fisa just shut the damn container

[limber wing]

especially in the main server area

[marsh lark]

Boi, FISA got nothing on that USIA super soldier named Judge

[limber wing]

BOI, please shut the container i beg of you

[marsh lark]

You can beg, but I will not yield. 😎

[limber wing]

Fine, keep the container see if i care lol

[spiral tundra]

Got junpscared last time

But luckily I got most of em from the high ground

[marsh lark]

I gotta remind you.. Your agent was involved in trafficking women, drugs, weapons and money

[limber wing]

yh i always take position on the balcony up top

[limber wing]

Uhmmm no comment

[marsh lark]

Typical Federal Agency response "no comment"

[limber wing]

lol

[marsh lark]

Nah man, FISA needs to be investigated rn.

[limber wing]

nah fr tho i agree lol

[marsh lark]

Public audit mf, the people are gonna be your judge

[limber wing]

i don't think it would turn out too well

[marsh lark]

No it would turn out bad, Los Suenos is a horrible place lmao

[limber wing]

lmao

[spiral tundra]

Ok just finished it

[prisma raft]

Agent Adams alone warrants it, motherfucker shooting at cops, threatening people's families at that postal warehouse and even actively taking or even executing hostages

[spiral tundra]

B score

Finally a mission where nobody is stressed

Ends of the earth next

[alpine island]

yo i have a question why cant i find any mission past rust belt

like i cant find hide and seek mission valley of the dools or anithyng

[amber dock]

You have to unlock next mission then

[alpine island]

last time i played i could see every mission

even if i didnt complete it

[amber dock]

Last time is not right now

[alpine island]

ye well thanks

[tight hawk]

hi

should i buy da game?

[alpine island]

yea i mean the game is very intersting if u like tactical shootings and police stuff

and if u have friends itll bee even better i dont have friends to play with but its still fun solo

[tight hawk]

i would love the AI and stuff butttttt im skeptical about the stuff i can do after i completed the missions

[alpine island]

after u completed all the missions lets say u even completed the dlc missions u can try and S rank all the missions or get customizations u like

and not only that

theres also achievments u can do

like complete commander mode witthout any of ur officers dying or smth

or u can simply do ur own chalanges

like i just dont have ideas since im kind of a long way from completing all the missions myself and my creativity is not that good but if u have a good creativity or smth u may have good ideas on what to do

[tight hawk]

how many missions are there?

[alpine island]

including DLC missions ?

[tight hawk]

excluding DLC

[alpine island]

like 20 excluding dlc

[tight hawk]

oh dang

[alpine island]

lemme give u a screenshoot in DMS cuz i cant send photos here

[tight hawk]

i heard there was some glitches due to the console release is that still there? it was like 3 week ago idk

[desert island]

18 base game maps
2 free dlc maps
3 home invasion dlc maps
3 dark waters dlc maps

[tight hawk]

👍

[spiral tundra]

Oh no
I’ve seen things about greased palms

[buoyant pecan]

Where would I be able to share non-RoN media

I made a Doorkickers level inspired by Fairfax Residence and I wanna show it off lol

[tight hawk]

downloading it right now only 1 hour 40 minutes left

[limber wing]

RoN ?

[tight hawk]

yes

[limber wing]

ohh nice

[spiral tundra]

And I got headshotted

🥀

Greased palms so annoying

[loud hollow]

FISA Agent Jack Adams one-shoted me

[spiral tundra]

Same

[loud hollow]

I hate that guy

[spiral tundra]

I think bro just headshotted me while I’m securing his factory

Cheers bro

Deal with the criminals yourself then

Worst part of this map tho is the hostages

Dudes be shooting them on sight

[pine canyon]

I finally platinumed ready or not. I was in fact ready

[loud hollow]

I'm 39 of 56

There's still a lot to do

[pine canyon]

Took me around 60-70 hours

Hard difficulty trophy was significantly harder than getting all S rank imo

[jagged quartz]

Yeah I'm trying to do that one now, it's a massive pain in the arse

[pine canyon]

Which one you struggling with

Mission

[toxic harness]

Have you Hard S rank any missions?

[jagged quartz]

Port rn. But done half the mission so far

[pine canyon]

I didn’t do Hard S, wasn’t required for platinum. Just hard on every mission and S rank on normal or hard

[toxic harness]

That one is challenging as hell

[toxic harness]

Even if there is no achievement to Hard S rank any mission, it could technically be a 2 Bird 1 Stone when getting (I'm getting too old for this) and (Medal of Valor)

Plus you'll learn how to route through places better in unfair situations

[pine canyon]

I just did them separate. I’m definitely not ready for that.

I uninstalled after I platinumed until more content and fixes to play the DLC

[toxic harness]

If you want to Hard S, lmk as I have a group of folks that will help you

Some will take awhile as some is a breeze

[spiral tundra]

Dude I’m so bad at greased palms

[pine canyon]

If there was an achivement or unlockable id go for it

[toxic harness]

It's more like a flex imo

[spiral tundra]

Getting shot at from 5 angles

[pine canyon]

My strat was riot shields on everyone except 2, so the ones who didn’t have shields can still kill enemies farther away

Use the revolving grenade launcher and just blast everyone and have your AI clear every room

[willow grove]

@toxic harness

Yeah, that’s the problem. I’ve been through every room every hallway in every little crevice and I can’t find anything. and I’m using the search and secure command and it’s not working.

[spiral tundra]

Should I play shields then?

[pine canyon]

I used shield

[toxic harness]

Move to a different area and keep spamming "Search and Secure"

[toxic harness]

Shields can protect your behind when not using

[willow grove]

That’s also what I’ve been doing just going up and down and through every room and doing that and the command is literally not working

[pine canyon]

Definitely helped. Another tip that helped me was if you take large damage early in the run, or your AI does, just restart

[spiral tundra]

Im on commander mode

[toxic harness]

Did you get both the boat and the passports?

[lean edge]

open every door

[spiral tundra]

There’s no restart

[willow grove]

Where are the passports?

never heard of that only the boat

[lean edge]

then use the command

[spiral tundra]

I only imagine greased palms on non lethal

[pine canyon]

Difficult but possible

[spiral tundra]

I like that hotel map ngl

[toxic harness]

It's in that house by the luggages

[amber dock]

When you spawn in the house you use to enter the tunnels. It’s at the table

[willow grove]

K let me look

[amber dock]

Like it’s a pile of passports so very hard to miss

[spiral tundra]

How do I equip my shield

[balmy patio]

is there a way to reduce the bleed out effects?

[willow grove]

apparently, I missed it so I must be blind as bat

[toxic harness]

How I feel when I 100% Hard S rank every mission

[toxic harness]

It's your long tactical

[pine canyon]

Don’t get shot

[toxic harness]

Just don't get hit. Bleeding mechanics is an rng based so either you bleed, get hit or die

[willow grove]

What do you play on?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

[toxic harness]

PS5 + TV

[balmy patio]

i meant the red effects etc as it kinda hurts my eyes

[willow grove]

You on current? cause I only got five missions left. And I wanna get S on all 5 if you’re up for it sometime today if you’re busy right now

[pine canyon]

If you dodge the bullets the effects won’t appear

[toxic harness]

I just got back from college but gimmie a min

[slow radish]

Was close to the end of Ides of march on Hard (Singleplayer) without anyone killed so far. So .. maaaybe a S rating with just two enemies left which I already saw and knew their position. One room next I decide to let my AI pick up the guns in the room I am RIGHT NOW. Well .. one decides he goes through the floor to a open door to the two bad guys and gets killed .. everything went down and I got killed XD

//EDIT:
I told them to "search ROOM" .. yeah ...

[willow grove]

all right, let me know. I have to leave at 1:45 to 1:50 CST due to a appointment. But if you’re not on by then we can do it after.

[marsh lark]

Yeah the SWAT AI sometimes feels like they took all the drugs from the evidence locker before going on a mission

[toxic harness]

We can do it after

[slow radish]

I didnt even play with pepper guns... I hate those lol. It would have been a awesome mission XD

[marsh lark]

So, the SWAT AI I get is trash, though when I used QoL mod that gives the SWAT AI in multiplayer which should not change anything, that SWAT mf decided to shoot through a closed door and 1shotted a suspect

I was like, what the fuck just happened, how. How is the AI so herrendous in singleplayer, yet the multiplayer one that the mod gives you is john wick despite it not altering how SWAT AI acts, shoots or works

[willow grove]

Alright Ill DM you after im done

[maiden agate]

You can play it on xbox pc and get mods I dont think all work but it has the same pak folder and Ive got a few to work

[spiral tundra]

Finally did greased palms

2 officers down 😭

[toxic harness]

Standard?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

2 KIA

[marsh lark]

That is unacceptable!

[slow radish]

"You're professionals, start acting like it!"

[spiral tundra]

One got both his legs blown apart

The other died to the last guy bruh

[marsh lark]

Pretty sure that you can sumarize why D platoon has like this big ass arsenal of outfits and weapons is because canonically, when D platoon (Judge and his team) respond to a mission, no officer or civilian dies throughout their operation. So how dare you let 2 officers die

[spiral tundra]

Mb gng
Stop supplying criminals with shotguns

Valley of the dolls

[pine canyon]

Don’t tell me what to do

[tulip rampart]

what i say to TOC when my objective is to arrest amos voll

(i shoot him teehee)

[spiral tundra]

Ain’t no way my breather just shot my team mate dead in the chest..

With his SHOTGUN

[vale hull]

Is there a HVT that is more hateable than Voll?

I think he's the worst one right

[marsh lark]

Yeah, morally yeah.

[tulip rampart]

yeah, the lore behind "The Exploited" missions is really dark shit

[short cargo]

Brixley is a grade a bastard too

[tulip rampart]

i have a bad habit of using lethal force on those two

[short cargo]

Oops all bullets

[desert island]

voll didnt kill himself

[tulip rampart]

"it wasnt a pepperball launcher? whaaat? i didnt know!"

[short cargo]

[desert island]

the police covered up his crimes by killing him

[vale hull]

I always shot Voll, Brixley, and Michael tbh lmao

Pdf HVT are the worst for me

[desert island]

typical corrupt lspd

[tulip rampart]

C L O S E T H E D O O R S

[buoyant pecan]

Listening to RoN soundtrack while attempting to clean my absolute disaster of a room

[desert island]

weirdga

[tight hawk]

1 more minute till ron is downloaded

[loud hollow]

Finish all missions using only breach shotgun

[spiral tundra]

Dude I can’t find the final valley of the dolls dude

[limber wing]

he's in the basement 90% of the time

[marsh lark]

I mean, bro would not survive one day, one night, maybe even one hour in prison

[spiral tundra]

Oml thank you

[limber wing]

np man

[spiral tundra]

I completely forgot to sweep them icl

[limber wing]

lol np

[spiral tundra]

I managed to tase one and flash the other

[limber wing]

cool

[spiral tundra]

College next

I may fail this cuz I tend to take my time as usual

[limber wing]

bomb threat aint the main thing thats annoying about elephant its just that they kill hostages quickly

[plain valve]

Voll is innocent

[pine canyon]

Exactly

[plain valve]

He’s just a dude with a doll fetish

[pine canyon]

His parents were killed by dolls, that’s why he taped them to the walls

[spiral tundra]

Dude I killed all shooters and got all civilians and the bomb hit 0

My whole team is dead

Should I go for bombs first or

Ok just swept bombs right away and got a ton of civs and a shooter

[desert island]

put his security guards in jail with him

[ancient pivot]

What gun has really good damage and also very low recoil

[toxic harness]

Shotgun

[desert island]

g36 and f90 have lowest recoil

5.56, .300 and 7.62 r almost identical

7.62 lets u 1 shot enemies with normal hp on standard mode

[pine canyon]

Shooters

Find bombs as you explore map, remember where they are but don’t defuse. Takes too much time, suspects can kill civs if you take too long

[desert island]

i just put a chemlight outside the door

[marsh lark]

He would not survive even with armed guard

[desert island]

u think void gona expand the child exploitation plot after what theyve done

prbly not so voll is not gona have any shadow cabal connections

[toxic harness]

Or maybe another controversial shooting as a mission, yet it can connect to the in game lore like Neon Tomb

[desert island]

just the spider criminal organization

[charred birch]

I mean, considering Port Hokan and the whole trafficking ring you find out about, there’s potential for them to exploit it further

[desert island]

after they had to censor it i dont think so

[charred birch]

But then again I think it’d be overuse

[charred birch]

They just added clothes on the girls for the Port so I think they could explore the theme a little more without having like, explicit stuff 😭

[tight hawk]

anyone know where "crystal leighton" is in the first mission ive been walking around for like 10 mins now

[desert island]

shes in a closet by the kitchen

[charred birch]

Honestly the censoring doesn’t even bother me that bad ; the only thing I kind of dislike is how they handled Voll’s basement

[desert island]

nearer to the staff rooms

[tight hawk]

ok

[charred birch]

Because if you don’t know the context it looks like he’s just a really big fan of dolls 🫩💔

Other than that I find the censoring not to be that bothering

[tight hawk]

i still cant find her 😭??

[desert island]

its an open room thats dark

to the left of the door with the circle window that lets u into the register side of the diner window

[tight hawk]

yess tysm

i got A+ first try

[restive mulch]

whoever that is is so real

[charred birch]

Nice

[desert island]

y is there no rifle wit no drag, tundrasuppress, srodot, no recoil

closest is ga51 and g36c

g36c has drag, ga51 has recoil

[hearty pendant]

Off topic are you able to connect to the epic services at the moment?

[jagged carbon]

Automatic m14 got hella recoil

[charred birch]

Good thing you usually just need one bullet to kill/incap 😭

Or two..

[jagged carbon]

I use the mk17 when I want a heavy hitting rifle and I get similar results

[charred birch]

Same here

[jagged carbon]

I mainly use the mk16 tho so I kill less people

Also because it look cool

[charred birch]

Come to think about it I haven’t really used the Mk16 much, maybe I’m missing out

[jagged carbon]

It’s the mk17 little bro basically.

Less damage smaller larger mag. Takes two to three shots to take down a suspect down (in valley of the dolls last time I’ve used it).

[lean edge]

Guys, I've been trying to get another Negotiator for hours, but no matter what I do, I can't seem to get any success. Do you have any suggestions?

[solemn patio]

They need to add the AM180 ngl

[charred birch]

So your typical 5.56x45 gun but it’s stylish so it’s automatically better

[jagged carbon]

Well it’s rng so you can really only fire someone hope you get the option for negotiator than you play an easy mission to get your squad to not be stressed.

[solemn patio]

Its a crazy high capacity high rpm 22 lr

[charred birch]

Speaking of adding weapons, they really should add older weapons for those who want 90s SWAT loadouts, since now all we really have is the MP5A2 and to some extent the 870

[solemn patio]

YESS

WE NEED WOOD FURNITURE TOO MAN

[charred birch]

I’m sure it wouldn’t be difficult to add the CAR-15 since it’s already in the game

[jagged carbon]

Ye instead of black it tan, except the stock for some reason void didn’t use the actual stock used for the SCAR platform.

[solemn patio]

I want to blast terrorists in the face with a wooden m14

[charred birch]

ABSOLUTELY

[jagged carbon]

M1918 BAR when?

[solemn patio]

M2 carbine when

[jagged carbon]

Thompson SMG when?

[charred birch]

MG42 when ?

[jagged carbon]

M1 Garand when?

[spiral tundra]

Musket when

[charred birch]

Winchester 91 when ?

[jagged carbon]

Blunderbuss when?

[solemn patio]

We need a 1800s constabulary dlc trust

[spiral tundra]

Flintlock when

[solemn patio]

Where we become constables way back whdn

[pine canyon]

Particle accelerator when

[jagged carbon]

M1903 Springfield when?

[charred birch]

I still don’t know why they didn’t add a bank robbery mission yet when it’s like, one of the most cliche scenarios you’d expect SWAT to intervene in

[desert island]

film noir police

[solemn patio]

Orbital precision strike from a super destroyer when

[desert island]

they prbly gona do bank robbery since its low controversy

[pine canyon]

⬇️⬇️⬆️⬆️➡️➡️

[solemn patio]

People dont really have the balls to rob banks because its super easy to trace

[jagged carbon]

MA5B assault rifle when?

[errant bane]

what about those dudes that stole like 80 mil and got away with it

[solemn patio]

Lspd is so comically overfunded

[desert island]

banks arent easier to trace they r just more likely to be prioritized by police

[solemn patio]

Yes

[charred birch]

It’s supposedly underfunded but then you have D-platoon C2’ing every damn door they see and then mag dumping P-90s

[desert island]

pretty much every crime could be solved if they had someone actually working on the case

[charred birch]

Though it’s not uncommon for law enforcement to use personal equipment so that might explain why you get access to so much equipment despite being "underfunded"

[solemn patio]

Guess the well funded ones have literal orbital strikes

[solemn patio]

Their budget is increasing

[desert island]

considering the enemies D platoon fight, they might as well be military budget

[late bough]

I'm doing an S rank for the oil rig and the only thing I have left is rescuing all civilians but I've gone through the entire rig like 3 times by now and haven't found the civilian.

When I order the AI to search and secure, one of them reads that they're restraining a civilian but they actually just stand still.

Does them standing still mean that the civilian is glitched out of bounds or something?

[desert island]

squad of 5 vs 20 enemies in lv 3 body armor

with automatic weapons and IEDs

[charred birch]

If I’m not mistaken that usually means there is a soft objective you missed

[solemn patio]

They should add a mass raid mode for multiplayer

[charred birch]

Since the AI can’t report it they’ll just stand there sticking their thumbs up their ass 💔

[solemn patio]

Where you go in with like 14 other dudes

[desert island]

AI is usually the one glitching out

[late bough]

There is only 1 soft objective on the oil rig and I already got that. Also if there wasn't a civilian, it wouldn't say "restraining civilian" for one of the AI

[tight hawk]

im clearing every room in 23 megabytes and somehow i havent secured everyone and my officer shoots an civilian

[jagged carbon]

Gonna be honest. I don’t know what soft objects are

[stark kiln]

Okay, so question of general tips that has probably been asked, I'm looking up from casual (ashamedly, I was still learning the game) to standard to see if I've learned anything (in quickplay because of the stress system, fuck that system), what should I know for success?

[desert island]

if u use the 10 player mod against 50 enemies its honestly not even fair for suspects

[charred birch]

Then either they can’t reach it because it’s the SWAT ai being stupid (as usual) or you got unlucky and the civilian glitched out of bounds

[solemn patio]

Its accurate tho

[desert island]

a decent player can prbly kill 20 alone with no issues

[solemn patio]

LOL he knows who to shoot

[desert island]

now give him 9 teammates and all they need to do is kill 5 each

thats like 1 mag spent per player

[jagged carbon]

I’ve played up to elephant and I don’t know what soft objects are

[charred birch]

It’s objectives that don’t appear on your tablet ; for example in the first mission you can report a dead veteran despite this not being an objective mentioned on your tablet

[jagged carbon]

Ohhh

[charred birch]

That’s a soft objective and some missions just don’t have them

[desert island]

doing hospital with 10 players, everyone just split up and went hunting and the enemies all died after 3 minutes

i only got like 3 kills

[jagged carbon]

They have been the reason my scores have dropped from A+ to B

[charred birch]

Oh yeah typically they’re the reason why your scores drop if you are CERTAIN you secured all the evidence

[late bough]

They just give some extra score, not necessary to pass missions but mandatory if you want an S rank. If you're not trying to 100% then you dont really need to care about them

[charred birch]

But honestly this game is funnier when you don’t care about scores

[late bough]

It's not too hard to learn where they are though, and just grab them whenever you're walking past

[charred birch]

Seeing as you’re not done with the game I’d advise you just enjoy the game for now and worry about scores later (especially S ranks since I find non lethal quite unenjoyable for a first playthrough, but that may just be me)

[stark kiln]

The A+ ranking is (seemingly) considered to be the canon rank by most players anyhow, as you're not going to (in MOST cases) take an active shooter alive anyway.

[jagged carbon]

I just want the cool cosmetics from getting up to A score. I don’t care about getting s did it once on accident with lethal obsession when the suspects set off their own traps and I just walked in with them already surrendered.

[desert island]

i would say B is canon

[charred birch]

In some instances I’d argue the B ranks is the canon rank ; like in Neon Tomb, The Hand members would NOT be compliant at all and it’d be hard to arrest some, if any of them

[marsh lark]

Cannon is that no civilian or officer deaths.

[late bough]

I've played all the base game missions S rank and yeah I would consider A canon because the amount of bullshittery S ranks require is absurd sometimes

[desert island]

cuz B is completing all objectives and no penalties

[stark kiln]

Also very true. They're fanatical, highly trained, steeled mentally, and aren't likely to give up at all

[desert island]

especially when u kill like 10+ suspects ur grade dips 30 pts for every enemy

so 80% of total points is prbly canon

[tight hawk]

not funny 😭

[charred birch]

I find Hide and Seek to be a massive fuck you in your face when it comes to S ranking

[stark kiln]

I have to remind myself (and probably will on this mission i'm gonna do) that I CANNOT melee civilians for compliance on standard.

[desert island]

u can melee them just not when they r already complied

[toxic harness]

Idk if Quadamah even lived during the Relapse mission

[charred birch]

I actually struggled far less with Relapse than Hide and Seek for an S rank but that’s probably a skill issue

[desert island]

well ur supposed to take him alive again

[stark kiln]

Ohhh. Maybe that's what I did wrong lmao. Oops.

[late bough]

That wasn't too difficult because there's good sightlines for the AI to handle, greased palms is absolute hell though. Took me like a week of attempts to get through that

[charred birch]

Speaking of Relapse, that might be a bit of a reach but the dialogue from the suspects makes me feel like the plot for Elephant and Relapse changed and that the two were connected

[toxic harness]

But the Elephant looks American, ofc considering the suspects can be based from the movie or the shooting itself

[jagged carbon]

Is it weird that I had more trouble with beating valley of the dolls than I did with greased palms?

[charred birch]

Cause I often hear one of the suspects going "Where are you you little shit" which would be odd if they were looking for Quadamah, plus they also talk about how innocent children were killed but maybe that’s referring to the Yemeni village

[late bough]

Yes, greased palms is absolutely the harder one

[toxic harness]

Idk how Elephant would actually tie to anything else besides being a regular college shooting caused by mentally unstable students

[charred birch]

Like, i think that Elephant was a response to the Neon Club incident which targeted Arab American students and that you were meant to arrest one of the shooters

And then Relapse was the remnants of the Hand looking for the said shooter in the hospital, which would explain why they’re referring to the person they’re looking for as "little shit" 💔

But it seems to be a scrapped concept and they were just too lazy to remove voice lines

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile after Relapse, about 5 members are still free

[charred birch]

Or it’s just an asspull theory, idk 🫩

The dialogue is what confuses me really because it doesn’t SOUND like they’re talking about Quadamah or the Yemen strikes at all

[toxic harness]

I would wish there is a reasoning behind Elephant besides just being there for shock value or show the reality of American life

Plus I would not mind having another controversial mission, as long it both fits into the story, and takes it seriously like Elephant (although the mission is so fucking easy)

[charred birch]

I think a response to Neon Tomb was the original concept but then they reckoned it would’ve been too controversial since the shooting probably would’ve targeted arab American students, hell Elephant was controversial enough as it is, i’m surprised it made it into the game

[toxic harness]

Plus Elephant itself never got censored at all, and was featured in the Playstation preview screenshot lmao

[charred birch]

The mission is sometimes ridiculously easy because you get lucky with the RNG or you’re too slow to actually find the suspects on time

But the difficulty itself is very mild yeah, it’s just a matter of being quick and some RNG really

It’s the one mission where i find the AI to be more of a liability than useful though

[stark kiln]

^ It was also one of the missions that both myself and my PC playing friend commend for being one of those 'oh... shit' missions, seeing bodies under desks in the lecture halls for example. I actually told him about one of my experiences playing where I tried to yell at them to come out, only to realize they had been dead all along 😬

[toxic harness]

I wonder what missions that the Hand would attack, considering some members are still alive and they could be their own leaders since Qadamah sucks as a leader

[primal gate]

Just started playing last week, I adore the game so far and haven't had any issues with the game yet, my only trouble is I'm trying to S rank Valley of the Dolls and I'm slowly going insane

[charred birch]

If I’m not mistaken there are about 20 operatives remaining ???

Or at least before the Neon Club shooting they had 20 american operatives

[charred birch]

Oh yeah i feel you

[toxic harness]

Like they could continue with the Hand's Legacy with missions like:

• Attack on a gated community
• Pool area
• Churches
• Abandoned building as their own HQ
• Attacking another Police Office

[primal gate]

I got sick of screwing up the mission, became bloodthristy and found that its extremely easy to beat if you just give your entire team HK-51's

[charred birch]

What i did the first time I S ranked it is I C2’d the main entrance and threw a stinger (feel free to use gas but i find it ineffective at times) and cleared all the rooms up to that one door that leads to the gym and stairs

[jagged carbon]

I have not been playing RoN for the last two days thanks to getting elephant. I hate timed missions so I’ve just been playing halo 3 odst

[toxic harness]

I love dead bodies around the area to simulate a mash shooting that we showed up later

[charred birch]

Then i went back out the main entrance and got down the stairs since going through that bridge is actually hell and gets you sniped through windows a lot of the time

[primal gate]

what do stingers do anyways? I thought they were just frag nades

[charred birch]

They send rubber balls all over the place

[toxic harness]

Less than Lethal version of Grenade

[charred birch]

So instead of using disorientation and shock to make someone compliant, you use pain

[stark kiln]

I do also like that one of the environmental things is that you hear shooting when ylu get there, indicating they're not done yet. It adds a sense of urgency, in my opinion

[jagged carbon]

Think they have a longer ranger too

[charred birch]

I don’t think there’s a really big difference in effectiveness though so feel free to use whichever you like

I use stingers more often personally but that’s a preference

[primal gate]

I'm pretty sure that you all can relate but the area that consistently kills my runs is the yard and that area below the bridge, I swear Voll hired half the army to camp there

[toxic harness]

Indeed. But I may be the only that would want more active shooter scenarios that would "somewhat" (doesn't have to be fully inspired like Elephant) relate to an incident a while back or recent

[charred birch]

Yeah i know which ones you’re talking about it’s AWFUL the first few times 😭

[toxic harness]

Hell I want an Iranian Embassy mission based

[primal gate]

its awful every time for me, I just don't know what to do to get an S rank

[charred birch]

Question do you use beanbag shotguns or pepperballs ?

[primal gate]

we already got the old school gas masks and Mp5A2 for it, might as well

[charred birch]

Pepperballs can not do shit sometimes but they can be easier to aim with compared to the beanbag shotguns

[toxic harness]

Beanbag or M32A1

[charred birch]

The shotgun on the other hand WILL stun a suspect but it can be hard to aim when you’re getting shot at from every direction by an army of John Wicks

[uncut tulip]

Does console have replay mode yet?

[primal gate]

flash launcher at first and then have been trying both

[desert island]

give ur team m14 and mkv with shield

[charred birch]

The flash launcher is really good honestly

[desert island]

its not just rly good its got no rival

[charred birch]

True 😭

[primal gate]

its excellent, my only issue is I only have 12 shots to use and guards will sometimes need more than one shot to get to comply

[desert island]

u start with 6 then u can bring like 10 ammo

and u usually get 2 or more with 1 flash

[charred birch]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, it’s the kind of copy and paste advice you’ll hear everywhere but really just bring a lot of whichever kind grenade you like with both you and your team, a handful of wedges (i find it useful personally with certain doors) and don’t hesitate to flash/sting/gas rooms

Even if that means flashing EVERY room

[lean edge]

idk i think its bug or something i try 20-30 times

[toxic harness]

It kinda does have a rivalry with Beanbag.

M32A1 has 3 disadvantages:

• Low Ammo Count (some missions will be impossible to solo play)
• Slowest Reloads + Will Dispense all Ammo like .357
• Too risky for Commander cuz of Friendly Fire. Must be used for Multiplayer for no Friendly Fire deduction

[primal gate]

to be fair I haven't really experimented with different body armor levels and different mag quantities for guns yet so I don't know if I can carry more than 6 + 6 shots for the flash launcher

[charred birch]

Go slow and all that shit, pie rooms yada yada yada and really just hope the AI will somewhat stop acting like John Wick to defend a pdf

[charred birch]

I’m not fond of heavy armor but it can come in handy in VOD with the bullshit AI

[desert island]

if ur going for S rank on maps with over 20 enemies then maybe

[primal gate]

oh I know, I just get screwed by the bridge and yard every time, the rooms I'm fine with

[desert island]

and its maybe

[charred birch]

I find entering that room from below the bridge safer

[desert island]

i found i could do port hokan with 13 flash ammo and then carry long tactical flash

[charred birch]

But i’m pretty sure that’s what you’re doing already

[desert island]

for 23 flashes in total

and u also have swat AI to flash stuff too

[toxic harness]

Yeah but what about 3 Letter Triad?

[desert island]

i dont hav the dlc so i can never solo it

i always have to play with others for it

[primal gate]

is it possible to get more flash ammo if I sacrifice all my pistol ammo?

[desert island]

yeah i just remove everything

[charred birch]

Yeah it is

[toxic harness]

With armor, you can carry 3 of 6 cylinders plus 1 extra

[primal gate]

for the M32 that is

[desert island]

in normal play i just bring a lockpick and 2 mkv mags

in light steel front only armor

then 10 flash ammo for 16 flashes

and use a riot shield as my free back armor

[charred birch]

Is the Gas M320 just useless since the AI will directly go and clear the room instead of waiting for the gas to disperse ?

[desert island]

its useless now

gas radius is smaller than flash radius

[charred birch]

Yeahhhh CS gas is just unreliable now

[desert island]

its only use is prolonged stun on someone while u go do something else

[primal gate]

I tried it and yeah its useless

[desert island]

but u can just shoot them in the head

for perma stun

[charred birch]

It used to be the meta, almost OP i’d say

Now it just doesn’t work 💔

CS gas overall that is

[primal gate]

unrelated, this game has some of the most accurate weapon modeling I've ever seen in a game in regards to how they feel to shoot

[charred birch]

Agreed

[desert island]

the weps stats r basically carried by attachments

[primal gate]

I shot an actually MP5A2 recently at my local range and found that how it feels in RoN is almost identical

[desert island]

vertical grip removes the most recoil

srodot has fastest aim time

[primal gate]

the only inaccuracy is that the A2, at least for me had almost no vertical recoil but more horizontal recoil and in the game it goes up more than it goes to the side

[charred birch]

Pretty sure it shouldn’t have a burst mode either

[primal gate]

it actually kicks harder in game than it does irl

[primal gate]

it does, I shot it in semi, burst and full

[charred birch]

Oh a three bullet burst ?

Well my mistake then 😭

[desert island]

the way the gun sways when ur walking is crazy

even i can hold my laser tighter when running

[charred birch]

What do y’all think of the AWRC ?

[spiral tundra]

Kinda feel bad for the people in the ends of the earth

Killed cuz you wanna help your grandma

[charred birch]

One of the few missions where I actually WANT to go non lethal

[desert island]

well u dont need to kill them

also thats their mom

[charred birch]

Also aren’t these guys in the attic Los Locos ?

[desert island]

there can b los locos on the map

[spiral tundra]

I’d also want to go non lethal on gas station

It’s just some teens who are broke and want to be rich

[wide verge]

The brothers except the oldest give up easy. I don't feel too bad about the gang members

[charred birch]

I mean, threat level wise yeah you could go non lethal but I find it kinda hard to sympathize with people robbing a gas station and shooting the place up because they want to feed a drug addiction 😭

[spiral tundra]

They’re young tho

[charred birch]

Young adults I’m pretty sure, so yeah

[spiral tundra]

Who’d spare the guy in the second mission tho

[wide verge]

They also blew someone's face off. If they don't give up right away they're going down

[spiral tundra]

Dude shot his mum cuz he lost in a video game

[charred birch]

Actually the SWAT call was one his followers pretending to be him and making up a scenario where he killed his mother and held his brother hostage, however you can find his mother during the mission

[trim dirge]

they shot up a manager who had a wife and maybe even children, a veteran and his dog, and probably a few more people im forgetting about.

can’t really sympathize with them

[spiral tundra]

What
Dang

[charred birch]

You just stumble upon an illegal bitcoin farm, realize the SWAT call was false ANDDDDD you find some CP on his computer

[spiral tundra]

Maybe explains the whole chat laughing

[stoic thistle]

Swatting is a real thing, and folks have died from it.

[charred birch]

The mission introduces the whole traffic ring theme essentially

[spiral tundra]

Ik but the mission desc doesn’t mention at all

[toxic harness]

Whoops, I killed Micheal

[spiral tundra]

Not even after

[charred birch]

Yeah because you go in thinking he DID kill his mom and was holding his brother hostage

[spiral tundra]

And you don’t know what his mum looks like

[charred birch]

I mean she does talk about her son being micheal

[spiral tundra]

So you go in and think it’s a random lady

[wide verge]

Finding the last civilian on Relapse is pure pain

[spiral tundra]

Michael is a very common name

[willow grove]

@toxic harness Im back

[toxic harness]

Who the fuck

[charred birch]

No i mean like she talks about her son and stuff, which very obviously hints at her being the streamer’s mom

[willow grove]

remember earlier, you were gonna help me with my remaining missions on S rank

[toxic harness]

OUT OF MY HOUSE NOW

[charred birch]

But you can miss the voicelines so i get what you mean

[willow grove]

Lol

[charred birch]

If you read Sinuous Trail’s briefing though it mentions they traced the streamer’s pdf stuff back to the Mindjot datacenter

[spiral tundra]

Nice

I think from my first time playing some of my fav missions were ides March and ends of the earth, aswell as data centre

[charred birch]

Nearly all of the missions are connected in some way too

[spiral tundra]

Yeah the only one a little off is elephant