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[jagged carbon]

Easy Pete do you have helldivers 2?

[rustic jackal]

I actually just bought it a couple of weeks back I’m like level 10

[deep sentinel]

randoms can join perfectly fine but whenever one of my steam friends try to join they get instantly kicked both joining from the menu and joining from a steam invite

[jagged carbon]

I preordered it on Xbox

[rustic jackal]

when does it release for you guys?

[jagged carbon]

Nine days

[rustic jackal]

you must be excited I’m sad I didn’t get to it sooner it’s actually so good

[balmy patio]

oh i just remembered you were the guy behind the google drive, good job on that

[crude prism]

no relation

(thank you)

[toxic heath]

The PC version needs a toggle voice chat option.

[tulip spear]

Hey uh, anybody know the difference between World and Weapon FoV?

[balmy patio]

btw i have a question, does armor shots trigger the bleed out mechanic or only flesh shots (arm legs etc)

[tiny iris]

world fov is the usual fov which pinches out your whole screen weapon fov is just for the weapon,you see more of your weapon
*mind you the world fov does not affect weapon fov

[balmy patio]

like if i run kevlar it wont trigger bleeding if someone hits the chest with a 9mm

[crude prism]

only bare-body hits can trigger bleeds

arms/legs/unarmored torso zones

Kevlar (technically) stops all bullets so a hit to Kevlar will never cause a bleed

[stone bay]

Yeah Kevlar should be more than enough to prevent bleeding, but other forms of damage will still be worse without steel or ceramic

[buoyant pecan]

Thought of a genius cosmetic idea

Hawaiian style shirt with a pattern of Mariposa Lili flowers

[bitter zodiac]

My game is frozen

[alpine ermine]

what

[vast glade]

Either the hospital or night club

[still harbor]

I agree. For me personally the hospital has such a creepier vibe than the night club

[vast glade]

I just have so much hatred for the hospital trying to get S grade

[still harbor]

I haven't even tried and most likely won't ever try S-ranking the hospital mission

[warm veldt]

Bout to pull my fucking hair on greased palm

[potent elk]

getting hit in the arm ruins recoil control right?

[vast glade]

I’m 3 away from the plat I’ve been 1 team ai dead away from it 3 times now

[crude prism]

Depends on the gun.

SMGs, yes, a lot.

Shotguns and rifles, only a little bit.

Pistols, no change.

[languid dagger]

I have 16/18 on achievement tracker on I'm too old for this

But I've completed all maps. Is there anyway to fix this?

I have 3 maps with C those are my lowest ranks

[rustic jackal]

some maps require certain rankings, for example greased balls requires a B and above to count towards the trophy (I speak from personal experience)

[languid dagger]

Ok so with hide and seek I got C and the number went up

So if i complete the other c maps will it fix it?

[rustic jackal]

In theory yes it should, what maps do you have the C grade on?

I know from personal experience that elephant and greased balls requires rankings above C

[languid dagger]

Twisted nerve and sinuous trail

Everything else is B-A+

[rustic jackal]

oh yeah you should be good to get it to pop once you do them with a higher grade, try it out then let me know afterwards I’m interested

[languid dagger]

Alright bet

[languid dagger]

Made twisted nerve an A

Achievement is now 17/18

[rustic jackal]

yessir get that trophy son

[fiery vortex]

better protection then broken ceramic while having no speed penalty compared to steel.

Yeah it is, issue comes if it's a 5.7 round due to shape and velocity or something like .50 AE which packs a punch

[languid dagger]

Bad news senious trail is now at b and no trophy

[toxic harness]

Do it again

[languid dagger]

I'm good I hate the map

[toxic harness]

Nah, do it again

You will repeat that mission

[languid dagger]

That's what your mom said last night and it's the same answer here

NO

[toxic harness]

No wonder the higher ups gives you a huge debuff that we unfortunately share

[languid dagger]

It's a massive buff if you make a build around it

[toxic harness]

However mine is just better cuz I Hard S all but 3 Letter Triad

Therefore I'm better :3

[languid dagger]

Okay okay... you might be right...

Wheres your girlfriend?

[toxic harness]

No idea but where is your boyfriend?

He needs his daily cuddles

[languid dagger]

I can't decide whether I want to hit you or hit on you

[toxic harness]

Your choice

Actually nvm I don't want to be like Micheal

[stone bay]

Imagine just going into a house, AND GETTING SHOT BY 5 DIFFERENT WEAPONS

[toxic harness]

Oh, name those 5 different weapons

[stone bay]

2 rifles
1 shotgun,
1 small smth
1 Flahsbang trap

[toxic harness]

Small smth? You mean a pistol?

[stone bay]

I think so, I couldn't make out bc I was random shooting

But it was like a small firearm

[toxic harness]

You just got shot by a firing squad then

[stone bay]

Yeah

[fiery vortex]

MP7, M4A1, MCX, P90, Glock 19

[stone bay]

Next time, The officers are suffering

[narrow plank]

got hit with the lawmaker special

[vast glade]

When I enter a room and they have a shotgun bigger than them

[toxic harness]

They have Saiga as we have Nova or Berneli M4. Technically 580 G Fed but it's a pump action, not Semi

[narrow plank]

just wait till you enter 3 letter triad and get shot by 7 rifles before you have a chance to register that there are 7 enemies

[vast glade]

Oh trust me I’ve encountered that im just glad I never have to play on hard again

[narrow plank]

triad s rank solo on hard should be the graduating test for special forces

its the greatest test of mental fortitude

[toxic harness]

Or a test for Spetznas

[narrow plank]

they'd get to the pool room and die

[vast glade]

I still got to get the sleeper agent trophy

But I rather worry about the plat, this game has been a buggy mess

[fiery vortex]

Sidearm pepper gun, stab vest. Nothing but pepper gun ammo and a mirror gun.

Your goal is to S Rank Hide and Seek, no helmet.

[narrow plank]

hide and seek is too easy

[fiery vortex]

You will play for 3 minutes before being hit with a baseball bat. Stopping for a moment is grounds for water boarding

[narrow plank]

relapse is a better fit for something like that

[fiery vortex]

Did hide and seek because it’s a dark map

[toxic harness]

Me when a suspect wants a hug

[vast glade]

I gotta find the best traits for my ai to S relapse

They die at the very end every time

Or the AI offs themselves

[narrow plank]

armorer/nutrionist tbh

[vast glade]

I did that but do I need 2 each or does it not stack?

[narrow plank]

I'd assume it stacks but Idk since I typically dont play commander all that often

[vast glade]

Oh they do stack for pacifist and negotiators

[austere stag]

All of the effects stack

[vast glade]

That wouldn’t make sense for armorer

It increases helmet and ceramic durability by 50%

[narrow plank]

if you use 4 armorers you all show up in payday bulldozer suits

need that shit for triad

[vast glade]

It’s funny because if you have 4 veterans them mfs should have aimbot then

[crude prism]

1 armorer, 1 nutritionist, and 2 pacifiers for S ranking

[austere stag]

https://itemlevel.net/ready-or-not-complete-officer-trait-stats-guide/

[vast glade]

Thank you

[austere stag]

This shows the stats for each stack on each effect

[crude prism]

this is AI generated or something lmao, what is this info

[toxic harness]

"Hey, can you tell me which Ai stats from the game Ready or Not is stackable? Thanks."

[austere stag]

It's what I used, seemed to check out

[vast glade]

I’m ngl I seen a spreadsheet and just agreed with that

[toxic harness]

If it's not MMMM certified, it's false

[vast glade]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Znj4rCaM8g6QREFNWwHRBFSdnfdzYM37Y5AeHQ10rtg/htmlview?pli=1#gid=140792269

[crude prism]

Spreadsheets are how games are meant to be played 🔥 🔥 🔥

[austere stag]

I kind of just searched up the stack stats for traits and went with it

[toxic harness]

Ready or not on the Spreadsheet 🥀

[crude prism]

Ye, that's from Aspid, he's correct about all that.

[vast glade]

I appreciate looking it up for us though

[austere stag]

It's been a while since I even did my commander run since I did my hardcore a while ago and I can't remember the source I used

[fathom laurel]

me feeling like tony stark on google sheets trying to calculate which attachments have 2% less recoil

[vast glade]

Definitely was thinking of running 2 pacifist and 2 negotiators but imma try your way first

[crude prism]

If you're running into trouble with the SWAT AI survivability, 1 armorer and 1 nutritionist will give a drastic boost to both you and the AI

[vast glade]

Bet

[austere stag]

That was my set up for traits, cops just yelled and the suspects would just give up immediately

[vast glade]

The issue is that 2nd bomb room is so chaotic

[crude prism]

2 pacifier and 2 negotiator is also nuts tho, valid "best defense is a good offense" setup

[vast glade]

They’ll comply and 10 seconds later they shooting you again

[narrow plank]

which side have you been spawning from

[vast glade]

I do the front entrance but I’ve been doing both to see what’s easier

[austere stag]

Yeah, I flash and get them to surrender then hit secure room so that they clear and arrest as many people as possible

[narrow plank]

spawn hospital main lobby, the bomb site in that building will have more suspects than the one in the pediatric ward

[vast glade]

True and hostage situations are beyond annoying when you have non lethal

[narrow plank]

it'll be harder getting through the first bomb site because you're limited to two really dogshit staircases but its so much easier than doing it last

[vast glade]

I hate that they sneak up those staircases too to jump you when you’re arresting the dude near the CT Scan room

So many times

[narrow plank]

make use of the arrest cancel as much as you can

I always checked the bomb site doorway before I started clearing the xray and mri floor

[vast glade]

Smart imma try again rn, I appreciate the advice y’all gave me

[narrow plank]

its by far the hardest base game map for hard s rank, so tyt with it

[vast glade]

My teammate died not even by the time we got to the bomb bruh

I guess I gotta take point everywhere

[languid dagger]

Any suggestions on what to do about hard mode... I have 17/18

And all maps are at least b

I spent 20 hours on this

[narrow plank]

run it back, all 18 again

[arctic haven]

Is cs gas still broken

I'm hoping it is cause otherwise it's just awful

[vast glade]

I got an A+ they killed their own suspect

Relapse gonna make me lose it

[narrow plank]

yes

[arctic haven]

How was it before it got bugged? It seems super fun but just turns out to be awful

[narrow plank]

it was one of the go-to S rank tools

then again it was nerfed so Idk

[vast glade]

Yeah imma just wait for my friends to carry me with their grenade launchers these ai are so dumb

[crude prism]

Outrageously strong tbh.

It needed some kind of a change, they just overdid it

Not like it really matters though because it the same patch they added the M32A1

Trade one broken overpowered cringe cheese for another

[arctic haven]

I don't mind the launcher tbh

It is goofy but you can't fix it without fundamentally changing flashbangs

[narrow plank]

minimum arming distance, thats literally all they need to do

or make it kill people when they hit in the body like it used to be

makes zero fucking sense why a beanbag can kill to the head but a 40mm doesnt

[crude prism]

all of the above, even just changing it to stinger 40mm instead of flash would make it so using it aggressively would stun and injure you too, unlike flashes + flash goggles

[velvet steeple]

Man I really wanna take the BAR from Stolen Valor

[narrow plank]

can I rename the text for Hard to be 'The AI Cheats'

yeah like sure dude an AI that hasnt seen me for fucking a minute and a half comes around the corner full speed and prefires with me with his shotgun

fuck off with that shit its so fucking dumb

spend half of my 45 minutes fucking bleeding on his god forsaken map

[crude prism]

real

[cloud tree]

GUYS HOW DO YOU TERMINATE LIVESTREAM IN THE OIL RIG MAP???

[narrow plank]

hostage room, laptop

[cloud tree]

WHERE? THE ONE WHERE THE KEYCARD IS? OR IS IT THE GAS PIPES ROOM?

[narrow plank]

did you find the room with all the tied up workers

[cloud tree]

Yes

[narrow plank]

there is a laptop in there, interact with it

[uneven jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-or-not-ron-curious-can-rolling-gif-17721407850655272027

[narrow plank]

if its in the drilling room its at the bottom next to the drill, if its in the pipes room its over by all the consoles

I swear to fucking christ telling ai to shuffle to your position is so fucking worthless half the time

my position is not up the stairs and around the corner you fuck nugget, how convenient you do that on hard difficulty where you also get up in .3 seconds and run a marathon before one shotting me

triad is gonna make me crash out

[narrow geode]

you can also shoot the laptop it will still count

[spare escarp]

Hi guys, do i need to complete Los Sueños stories to unlock the "Complete the game in Iron Man mode" and the "Complete the game in Iron Man mode without losing any officer" achievement? I completed the 18 base missions but i didn't unlock the achievement or the watch neither

[fiery narwhal]

will vector be added to the game

[digital bobcat]

🟧 👓 ???

[spring condor]

Did you die or lose any officers?

[spare escarp]

I did but i Alt+F4, maybe sometimes with the officers i did it too late, but i didn't get the "complete the iron man mode" either, if it counts like i died it should erase my save, or not? Now that I'm thinking, in 2 missions maybe i did fail an objective, could be that?

[spare escarp]

Like kill someone i should have arrested

Ok now i found a posts saying, if you pass a mission it doesn't mean you completed, i guess i need to redo some of them

[mellow kite]

Carriers of the vine is an easy S rank

[stone bay]

Nah

[mellow kite]

How?

[stone bay]

Not exactly easy

Its like medium

[mellow kite]

for you maybe

[stone bay]

I think that hide and seek is easier s rank

[stone bay]

Yeah my opinion

[misty edge]

Do we need s rank for the dev watch?

[spare escarp]

how i can see which mission i did not completed? on the wiki says that even the D rank needs mission completition, but i remember failing something and i have at least one D and the others C or better

[spring condor]

Maybe it means you have to collect everything and not extract yourself?

[stone bay]

E is worst rank where you still pass the mission

[crude prism]

Dumb question, but do you have the skull icon on the save file?

[spare escarp]

let me see

i would be funny if i was playing on the wrong save

i have only one save, i remember toggling the iron man mode but i don't see any skull on the load save menu...

[misty edge]

Oh no

[spare escarp]

💀

[misty edge]

[spare escarp]

ok i created a new save with iron mode on and i confirm i was not playing in iron man mode

[crude prism]

🇫

[spring condor]

Good luck brother

[spare escarp]

thank you, i'll need it

[ruby tree]

Am gonig to buy home invasion any tips

If am gonig to play on it

[wraith gale]

FFFF(;-;) confirmed?

[misty edge]

Just have fun bru

[ruby tree]

Wich of that dlc is the best map

[wraith gale]

buy dark waters

[ruby tree]

Why

[wraith gale]

its 1000x better

[misty edge]

I like narcos and lawmaker

It’s personal preference which is better some say darkwaters some say home invasion

[tall thicket]

What are your opinions on the hard mode?

From my experience the only way it makes it harder is by turning the enemies into bullet sponges, giving them abilities to one shot headshot you through the entire map with a PISTOL, not to mention their reaction time is faster than the animation of them turning towards you, so they shoot you facing backwards.
(Yes me and my friend are currently losing our mind trying to do Greased Palms)

[rapid granite]

What’s iron man mode again

[misty edge]

If you die the save is deleted

[rapid granite]

Ah

[ruby tree]

Press on alt
f4

If you do iron man mode

[crude prism]

Enemies are not bullet sponges on Hard, you're close to a krill, sir.

The animations definitely need tweaking though. Tighten up the turn speed and such.

[tall thicket]

Not sure, six shots for an enemy to die and one for me in full tactical gear sounds a bit odd to me. But yes there are worse problem than that

[crude prism]

Unless you're using an SMG with AP rounds and aiming for legs, the health changes shouldn't even be noticeable

[tall thicket]

I have an assault rifle, usually hitting the chest which takes like 4-5 shots, and sometimes even one headshot wasnt enough. Maybe its multiplayer tweaking?

[ruby tree]

Who my record on whit a pistol 1911

Thank you come again

My whas 2min

[tall thicket]

But the part that pisses me off the most is that the enemies can see you through a 1 pixel gap and insta headshot you. Happened like 10 times at least.

[ruby tree]

I use ga416

Or lvar for close combat

[crude prism]

If you aren't host, it's probably multiplayer tweaking.

Or you're using like 5.56 JHP and failing to penetrate hard armor.

[tall thicket]

These enemies have no armor, and I'm using the 7 rounds

but honestly the damage is not that big of a deal, is the inhuman reaction an accuracy they have

[crude prism]

"Give them raw rate-of-fire buffs. 1000rpm rifles" -John 'Kaminsky' Void

[tall thicket]

Heh, more like sniper rifle pistols

[misty edge]

Sometimes enemy shows no armor but has armor…

[spare escarp]

guys there's a con to using the ballistic mask over the helmet only?

[ruby tree]

Home invasion or Dark waters

[misty edge]

Not really I think maybe it’s gives vignette

[tall thicket]

I dont think there really are cons, it actually gives you more head health

[plush gust]

Any advice on non-lethal run S at mirage at sea? They pop hostage every single time.
RnGeezus is not kind.

[floral peak]

Rush the ship until you arrest Sahid, and then play normally

[plush gust]

Doesn't work. Twice did that.

[floral peak]

Strange, they shouldn’t become active shooters if Sahid got arrested before it

[plush gust]

From what I've read he's giving orders away. I can't seem to reach him until he does.

[floral peak]

Try different spawns

I usually started from aft deck

Just every time you here, try rush and find Sahid

If you too late reset

[plush gust]

So basically rush for a guy and hope for rng to be kind. Kinda sucks as mission design ngl.

[night field]

Are you playing with a team or commander?

[plush gust]

Multiplayer with a friend.

[night field]

How fast are you detonating the bombs?

[plush gust]

Mirage at sea is the luxurious yacht. There's no bombs.

[night field]

Ohhhh I'm thinking Relapse. So to get the S its all about arresting him before 3 mins.

Its and spawn thing. Gotta get him early. Grenade flash launcher or the individual flash launcher work great in hostage situations

You wanna spawn at the Sun deck

I usually get him in under 1 min. You gotta move fast and clear before they start taking out civvies. Can't go slow.

[plush gust]

Okay, will try. Thanks

[night field]

I always work from the top down too if that helps

[fallen bobcat]

buy cheap buy twice hard s done

[tall thicket]

hey, please you got any advise how to do greased palms on hard? Me and my friend are absolutely losing our minds suffering from a "enemies shooting through walls" syndrome

[fallen bobcat]

There is only one thing that will help you - prayers to the Lord

[tall thicket]

yeah I definitely need some... (Its been three days man... We've been doing this for three days..)

[fallen bobcat]

i spent 6 days on this map

[tall thicket]

...

so we're not even halfway there yet

[plush gust]

I love when AI do shit like this and someone is saying that it's good design 😄

[fallen bobcat]

you might get it faster since i was playing commander and ai is dumb

[tall thicket]

yeah I mean, okay. Can be good design BUT, if you have an enemy, shoot you through a BOX, with a PISTOL, from at least 200 meters, and ONE SHOT you?

[fallen bobcat]

use flash launchers, heavy steel armour and shields

[fallen bobcat]

and ballistic mask too

[tall thicket]

Got all that, doesn't help much when you have no idea what micorpixel hole is the enemy shooting from

[fallen bobcat]

it's just awesome map, isnt it?

[tall thicket]

oh yeah sooo good. What's even worse? The new stats system thinks its my favourite map. Yeah right.

[fallen bobcat]

wait are you doing lethal or S rank?

[tall thicket]

lethal for now, maybe S later

[fallen bobcat]

well for lethal it's easier. Just take sa-58 with HP

[plush gust]

G3A3 superiority

[tall thicket]

well the problem usually arent our guns, its the fact someone shoots us from a 1 milimiter gap, or from behind an obsticle that we can't really see behind

[plush gust]

Maybe one of you should grab a shield so the other can nade

[night field]

@plush gust did u get it

[night field]

Its definitely a team job. Two people won't cut it. Its just that hard. Good luck if you're insistent though.

[tall thicket]

yeah, we thought it might be inpossible in two players. But we got so so close many times...

[gusty storm]

osw

[plush gust]

RnG blessed us, we got the fucker.

We did exactly the same thing we did past 10 times but this time it worked.

[night field]

Dope

[marsh lark]

The AI has cone vision, and they don't react until they spot some percentage of your model, so you must have crossed some open threshold. They however remain "visual contact" with your model for few seconds even when you leave their vision, so they can accurately shoot you through walls, yes

[fallen bobcat]

check dm's

[narrow plank]

front door, lockers and mail room, take a left in the storage room that leads outside, wrap all the way around and clear as many suspects as you can from outside - go back the way you came into storage, take the first door on the left thats closest to the office staircase, go upstairs, clear the room and then abuse the fuck out of the windows that you can shoot out of towards the warehouse floor

[night field]

This but I don't waste time/ammo shooting windows. You'll have high ground to shoot anyone below. C2 and sting office if door is closed just so you don't get ambushed with shots or if you have a hostage situation

[narrow plank]

enjoy the roadblock that is Hospital for a little

the jump in difficulty from dealership to hospital is nutty

[night field]

I must be one of the only people that didn't find neon that hard. My suggestion is to utilize wedging doors. I like to block out the main dance floor, circle around the lower map from the left then clear upstairs and lastly finish the dancefloor.

[narrow plank]

Neon was only hard for me because I kept getting fucked with enemy reactions, and since I run solo for all my S ranks I just got my shit pushed in

[night field]

The hospital can be a little tricky, especially in that 2nd floor kill box in the second building

[crude prism]

Neon is pretty unforgiving in the weapons department.

It's actually the only map where every single suspect has a Rifle or LMG now that I think about it.

So you're guaranteed like 14/15 dudes that can hit you plenty hard, as opposed to a balanced spread of rifles, shotguns, smgs, handguns.

Not ~too bad~ in layout though, once you know the map.

[narrow plank]

upstairs dance room would like a word, fuck that room

I died in there at least 10 times lmao

[night field]

Fair, soloing for an S is rough. I can't even imagine hard S and solo

[crude prism]

Hard S is just cancer

Standard S on Neon is (dare I say) easy enough to be like 90% consistent

[narrow plank]

you just to be perfect on your utility management

[night field]

Like you said, if you tackle the map after you know the layout out its not so bad.

[night field]

I think moreso if you have 3 down and need to arrest is all bad. Even if you clear their guns and go in to arrest, a 4th will instaspawn and screw you

[narrow plank]

I've learned to give it maybe 10-20 seconds before starting to arrest people

I dont even really arrest people anymore, just do the cancel rq and mark them on the map

[crude prism]

If you order the other suspects to look away from you when trying to cuff in a crowded room, they can't tell when to "jump you" at opportune moments.

Helps a little. I also like the "nudge" where you cancel arrest immediately and then just suck up their weapons into bags.

[narrow plank]

I wish that worked on Triad lol, 9 people in a single room good fucking luck

[crude prism]

[narrow plank]

game director spamming the pistol fake but one at a time like the lizard meme

[crude prism]

"Oh shit we're going NOW? I gotta catch up" -Surrendered suspect 3

repeat x number of suspects in the room

I swear I had like 4 dudes all at once pull handguns on me on Sins.

Professional fake surrender tacticians.

[narrow plank]

meanwhile suspect #25 senses a disturbance in the force and sprints the entire length of the map before aimbotting the absolute shit out of you with whatever weapon he has

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-13317869321893531471

[narrow plank]

24 suspects minimum kiss my ass

[crude prism]

the last suspect gets beamed with the sum of all suspect knowledge like he's downloading it from the matrix

the ultimate killing machine

[narrow plank]

unironically the taser is probably the best weapon to deal with the last suspect at the very end so long as you can get him to come through a door

[marsh lark]

xD

[crude prism]

Stun shot + infinite zappy bash that actually has good effect on target = profit

[night field]

This

[crude prism]

The normal muzzle bash is so dogshit, they NEED to change it fr

Let me clock someone, giving them a little nudge that doesn't do anything fucking sucks

[narrow plank]

I wish I could use my beanbag shotgun as a club and beat the bricks off the last dude if hes not complying

[night field]

Sins is another map to utilize the hell out of wedges

[crude prism]

"Do you see this shotgun? The orange means it's less-than-lethal, so I can do this"

beating the shit out of him with it

[night field]

Narcos has a gnarly pool party and two dudes have guns with a full barrel drum. Talk about aimbot fucked.

[marsh lark]

Then there are weapon mods and bashing with the gun literally knocks them unconscious, they get up after like 10 seconds and get up instantly when you arrest them

[narrow plank]

fuck green house all my homies hate green house

[night field]

I've had a dude take 9 bean bags and not go down. F that

First 3 houses to the left then 3 houses to the right, clear pool area, red house, then graffiti house.

Modding is just cheating.

Fun cheating I'm sure. But there's a certain badge of honor overcoming the pains on console

[narrow plank]

I'm about to use nvgs on triad I cant see shit in some of these rooms lmao

[marsh lark]

Depends on what you consider it, some AI mods are more realistic, so you could really just call it an overhaul rather than cheating

[night field]

Weapon mods to bash unconscious. Or using 9 bangs. That's what I'm talking about.

[narrow plank]

cough Gunfighter

[worn dirge]

Why can't i eat food in ron?

[dreamy yoke]

the spider is not hard but jesus is it annoying

[unborn gulch]

u can drink coffe at the station

[unborn gulch]

just go full brrrr, trust me

[floral peak]

Hard S is love

[worn dirge]

I meant eating not drinking

[dreamy yoke]

meh i like full brrr but also i have terrible eyesight so i need semi to make sure I’m not hitting civilians

[unborn gulch]

i keep my distance so i have a clear shot on the suspects

[unborn gulch]

yeah there are none

[dreamy yoke]

most of my kits rarely need range so shrug (i like smgs and pdw/carbine length rifles)

[unborn gulch]

rip

[dreamy yoke]

hey it works when i need it to work

[near cargo]

I love the mp5 but 9mm is just a peashooter

[dreamy yoke]

oh absolutely, me with my ump9

[unborn gulch]

yeah i don't advise the 9mm version

[near cargo]

Even the 10mm isnt much better tbf

Especially on most missions its like they make you use rifles

[dreamy yoke]

ive had some 45 solutions work great but even then i just kinda refuse to use pistols unless i have to

2 mags in a nice high cap pistol and dump like 3-5 into my main weapon depending on what I feel like using

[near cargo]

I always carry 5 mags main

[unborn gulch]

i mainly use the smgs when i wear the pup swat outfit, it gives a nice touch like the 90s lapd swat

[dreamy yoke]

this guy knows ball

[unborn gulch]

i carry 8 thanks to the more slots mod

[near cargo]

I mean I do sometimes reduce it when I want to cause chaos with 18 C2s

[unborn gulch]

yeah

[dreamy yoke]

i usually just equip kits based on the briefing, gets fun trying to see what works and what would be stupid

like the riot shield? as long as you have lethal coverage and know where your crew are its a great utility

[unborn gulch]

tbh depending on the mission description and the agencies involved , my kits changes

[dreamy yoke]

yup yup any time i hear guns i immediately upgrade from full body ceramics to the mid option i forogt

tweakers I just equip as many distractions as I can

havent gotten far enough to get bulkier guys

[unborn gulch]

i use the metal plates bc i saw the ceramic didn't protect much

[ancient pivot]

I think this discord is dying

[unborn gulch]

depends

[narrow plank]

lettttttttttttts goooooooooooooooo baby I finally got it

[dreamy yoke]

ceramics stop 100 % til it breaks leaving 40% steel does 86.5% consistently but can spall and injure teammates near you

[narrow plank]

oh no, dont fucking tell me it was on standard

[dreamy yoke]

ripppp

[unborn gulch]

lolll

[narrow plank]

I hate my fucking life

[dreamy yoke]

source: google search for ron armor

[narrow plank]

I knew that shit felt too easy

fuck me thats the second time I've done that

[jolly verge]

86.5%*

[dreamy yoke]

well thats fair i was reading an old thread so it couldve updated in the 2 years lol

which number so i can edit it

[marsh lark]

According to MMMM's sheet, steel has the most protection

[jolly verge]

Steel

They change it to compensate damage cap bug with armor

[dreamy yoke]

preciate it

[mossy tapir]

nerfed or still completely broken? because it use to fill up rooms with cs instead of being a fog machine

[narrow plank]

you can drop it at someones feet and it wont do anything, let alone spread throughout the room

[robust apex]

holy mackerel, greased palms is so fking hard

[marsh lark]

The only thing that makes it hard is the amount of boxes you can't see through but get lasered through by the enemy AI

[languid dagger]

Guys can someone help me I've spent over 10 hours on hard mode grinding the levels and now it says 17/18 all levels are at b rank minimum and the achievement won't pop

[marsh lark]

did you finish it just now?

[languid dagger]

Yesterday

All missions are done

[marsh lark]

Hm, interesting. I thought that maybe it bugged and just needed a restart but that is weird

[languid dagger]

Achievement says 17/18 implying I haven't gotten a high enough rank on a map

But if all maps are b or more I don't think that's the problem

[marsh lark]

Are you using QoL mod for ready or not?

[languid dagger]

No I'm on ps5

[narrow plank]

rank shouldnt matter for that achievement, so long as you completed the mission tbh

[languid dagger]

No I know for a fact it matters

[narrow plank]

unless its diff for console

[fallen bobcat]

Haven't played it yet,gotta do carries at first but I don't think relapse is harder than palms

[languid dagger]

A lot of players found out certain missions don't progress unless you get a certain rank

[fallen bobcat]

Isn't complete mission means get C at least? I'm too old achievement required it

[languid dagger]

Yeah exactly but all my my missions are at B

[fallen bobcat]

Well might be that you need to complete all soft tasks too? Dk really

[languid dagger]

Well how the hell would I know which one I failed that?

[fallen bobcat]

Well your fault ig lol. I'm joking

[languid dagger]

Fuck this game dude

[fallen bobcat]

Exactly what I thought on 5th day of greased palms hard s

[languid dagger]

10 fucking hours just gone

This game sucks

[rich urchin]

How do you even get S? I’m kinda new. So I’m not sure exactly

[glossy meteor]

Is the combat mask voice lines really quiet for anyone else?

[fallen bobcat]

Well just look which missions have soft tasks and exclude the ones you sure soft was done

[glossy meteor]

Arrest suspects by using stuff like the beanbag shotgun, kill nobody

[rich urchin]

Ahhh the non lethal route

[fallen bobcat]

Without killing or incaping anybody. All tasks have to be done and all evidence packed

[fallen bobcat]

Route of total pain and disaster

[rich urchin]

Does having injuries lower your rating too?

[fallen bobcat]

No. Just everyone have to be alive

So you can get shot but don't die(officers included)

[rich urchin]

Oh that’s so weird cuz first mission I got A+ but every mission after that has been like B/C but I refuse to leave a job unfinished and if I fail an obj I restart

[fallen bobcat]

You still get A+ if you just incap(not kill)all suspects(but if there's to much of them it can cause you to get B as I remember). And of course you have to do everything else(soft tasks, evidence, arrests)

[rich urchin]

Ohh so it drops rating if you kill instead of incap??

[surreal merlin]

is the sr16 good?

[jolly verge]

Kills and incaps gives you 5 score, arresting alive - 35

[rich urchin]

Yep that’s def my problem then cuz lately I’ve been having a lot of fun with slugs XD

[fallen bobcat]

Oh,so there's no difference. I was wrong ig

[odd cypress]

when they update the modded cqb training maps ?

[rich urchin]

Also is anyone on rn? LFG chat seems inactive or just nothing but S Tier farming. I just want some jolly co-op

[surreal merlin]

what's the best "gadget" for the AI? rn for me 2 have the gas launcher, others are mirror gun and breach shotgun

[jolly verge]

Gas is useless atm, for breaching you better give them c2 for most morale damage, mirrorgun is for yourself only since sometimes swat ai missing suspects when checking under doors with it

[surreal merlin]

okie

[viral anvil]

Trying to coordinate 4 randoms to complete Port Hokan on hard is worse than wrangling daycare kids.

If you’re the type of person to leave just because you died once, you are a part of the problem.

[viral anvil]

Mirrorgun for AI is only useful for scoping out traps (for now). They’ll ignore a room full of enemies if they’re too far away from the entry point.

[viral anvil]

Your public match should only start its search once the host picks a level. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve loaded into a game, and the host is AFK with no level selected.

[wide verge]

I think it's best to use the mirror gun yourself and give your guys breaching tools like the ram, shotgun and also the single grenade launchers can be useful

[stone bay]

Is the mexican restaurant mission easy?

Im thinking non lethal

[wide verge]

yeah I accidentally s ranked it just with flash bangs

[toxic harness]

Yeah. There is a first big floor while the 2nd floor is a small floor. Needed only one soft adjective

[stone bay]

Parking area?

[toxic harness]

It's only one suspect by the van if unlucky

[wide verge]

depends a little bit on enemy spawns. I had 3 guys in the back area of the restaurant, no one even inside the restaurant itself. the rest upstairs

[stone bay]

I see, + no traps?

[wide verge]

no traps

[toxic harness]

No. It's basically 4U gas station level

[stone bay]

Yeah i see

[gilded gulch]

Does the yacht have traps on hard

[charred copper]

shooting suspect in the upper right chest where the heart is doesnt kill or bleed, even though there is blood splatter all over the wall behind him?

also were decapitations removed in the console update? 12 guage slug or buckshot doesnt decapitate, it just makes the head red and eyes roll back

[rustic jackal]

no

[toxic harness]

It should have dismemberment, only on alive npcs

[charred copper]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=695296307#gid=695296307

[charred copper]

yeah im trying it on the torture subject downstairs when hes alive, it doesnt work

only arm dismemberment

no leg or head with any bullet size

[rustic jackal]

Idk if it’s in the game but I’ve only had the same outcome as you

[rustic jackal]

I’ve blown legs off with shotguns

[charred copper]

also heart should bleed like the arm and leg shots?

im gonna try leg again with shotgun brb

[rustic jackal]

try aiming blow knee maybe

[charred copper]

oh yep did it rn it works

head still doesnt tho

[rustic jackal]

yeah I’ve yet to blow someone brains out with a shotty maybe it got removed

[wide verge]

head doesn't get blown off but basically there's no face left

[charred copper]

got replaced?

point blank shotgun used to blow it right off

[wide verge]

I'm not sure, only been playing since ps5 release

[summer sequoia]

Yeah it got changed a while ago

[rustic jackal]

how are we supposed to torture voll now

him bleeding out is not enough

[charred copper]

alr :( i wish there was an option to toggle the censorship on PC, with it being hardlocked on console

[wide verge]

name a primary weapon I should use for my next mission, first one that comes to mind

[charred copper]

416

[rustic jackal]

MP7 full auto

[summer sequoia]

Shoot him in the hands and feet so he dies slowly

[wide verge]

you guys named what I use the most lol

[charred copper]

alr then SCAR-H
my fav gun irl lol

[prime spear]

Something mr. Bloody Ballistics would say.

[rustic jackal]

the GA416 or whatever it’s called

[summer sequoia]

lmfao

[wide verge]

scar h it is. greased palms run coming

[charred copper]

nice

[charred copper]

i cleared greased palm 1st try normal difficulty with it
its a monster lol

[rustic jackal]

as a ronsoler I’m Interested on what is your favorite mission is

[prime spear]

Sorry.. not a very good 7.62 gun.

[charred copper]

[prime spear]

the OSW is better.

[wide verge]

I used it as well for greased palms, hide and seek and 3 letter triad on my first runs

[charred copper]

yeah well whats the fun if you just fuck everyone up instantly with OSW and finish in 2 minutes

[rustic jackal]

triad on hard is the closest I’ll get to combat against tier 1 units

[wide verge]

Lawmaker probably. I like Narcos a lot too

[summer sequoia]

Every gun is good the only one you should actually just not use is the raider 320

[charred copper]

also SCAR has better colour schemes ngl

[rustic jackal]

that’s probably the one I’ve played the least that mansion is sick tho

[prime spear]

'Before I kill you, check out this cool color scheme"

[wide verge]

I always feel more like delta force team going against highly trained PMC's

[charred copper]

you're damn right! :)

[wide verge]

Sins of the Father is great

[worn dirge]

Which keybind is for prone?

[charred copper]

there is none

[rustic jackal]

we love rogue secret service

[wide verge]

I'm 99% sure there aint prone

[charred copper]

well free lean with crouch

but like not really prone

[wide verge]

what are your top 3 missions

[charred copper]

you cant jump

[sterile walrus]

Why do I feel majority of public lobby I've met hate non lethal lol

Got killed off by some randoms as "friendly fire"

[charred copper]

cuz they deserve to die

[toxic harness]

Is there any scenrios where you need to jump besides climbing?

[charred copper]

especially the school shooters

[wide verge]

Ive either had players just running and gunning like theyre playing CoD or people looking for S rank grinding

[charred copper]

cant really climb with 50 pounds of gear either + big ass gun

[charred copper]

the first type just runs straight into enemy fire, mag dumps and dies

[wide verge]

every door gets kicked open, no peeking, nothing

[charred copper]

shotgun or ram?

[toxic harness]

Half are Casuals and Standards, but the other half are mascohists

(I'm one of the mascohists)

[charred copper]

[wide verge]

I prefer shotgun because thats what I used in real life, but in game ram seems more practical because it gives no "warning" to the enemy before the doors flies open

[charred copper]

hot take: GA-51 is better than SA-58 OSW

same caliber
small as fk
basically 0 recoil
fires fast as fk

[hollow willow]

does anyone know if to get dress to impress achievement i have to play in any specific dificulty? or can i play on easy and still unlock it?

[charred copper]

gl getting dev watch

srry tho, idk

[hollow willow]

thanks

[toxic harness]

All cosmetics can be achieved on Casual, but would suggest doing Standard for "Medal of Valor", or do all Hard S ranks to also unlock "I'm too old for this"

And you must do Ironman but simply do Standard

[hollow willow]

i already s ranked on standard, i just want to do dress to impress achievement since its the only hard achievement left

ill take a break after for a few months and wait for update or dlc cause im almost done with hard mode, just need last mission

[toxic harness]

You only need Hide and Seek?

[uncut widget]

I'm sure it is relapse or Greased Palms

[hollow willow]

to get too old for this achievement yes the last one

[toxic harness]

Those are the last few, not the last one

[toxic harness]

Hide and Seek sucks ass until you have a good full stack

[hollow willow]

yeah i play with ai

dont have people to play this and i dont trust randoms

[toxic harness]

There are 20+ suspects with long range engagements

[hollow willow]

nothing compares to greased palms though

[toxic harness]

I think HoS is worse than GP

[hollow willow]

so far im having issues getting inside the warehouse the teammates ai is so dumb, i always get unlucky because some mf gets the drop on me from far and team ai is so incosistent

[hollow willow]

HoS?

[marsh lark]

I love how i take down a suspect to make him surrender and my AI deadass goes to cuff him in front of an open space where a suspect is waiting to give him full mag

[uncut widget]

I thought he meant last mission like like last mission to complete

[toxic harness]

Hmm, idk

[stone bay]

Guys is there evidence to the hunger strike mission in my evidence locker? I S ranked that one.

I cant find it

[hollow willow]

this is whats happening to me

[toxic harness]

THe van and the stuff upstairs

[stone bay]

What?

[toxic harness]

I didn't read the last part whoops. Im not sure about that

[grave anchor]

do most people always play on semi auto fire mode

[toxic harness]

If they can't pull down or using beefy weapons, they will use Semi. Unless they use non lethals which are all Semi (excluding Beanbag Shotgun)

[rustic jackal]

from my personal experience yeah from matches that I’ve played, I swear I only run full auto on hard mode when I want the terrorists to get it

[surreal merlin]

is the sr16 good?

[toxic harness]

Yes

[grave anchor]

yeah the kac is insane

[lime pilot]

You can give surrendered suspects commands to move to a safer location to prevent this. If you didn't know.

[chilly crane]

Am I the only one who finds Search and Secure command to be useless half the time?

[rustic jackal]

from my knowledge they only check areas you’ve been to and have cleared but I’m not 100% on that, I’ve found it useful at times for evidence

[chilly crane]

hmm

[tepid umbra]

yo guys i think ima buy ron. but idk if this game is worth my money. what does it got like very nice

[dreamy yoke]

I have underestimated a lethal obsession

[marsh lark]

I do, but the pathing is bad a lot of the time, the AI takes a weird path around the map to you and you cannot cancel the command, so either you risk them canceling the surrender because they lose LOS with you, or you rush to arrest them

[lime pilot]

I've stopped having these issues with just short direct paths away from where u don't want them to be.

[dreamy yoke]

cool you can get spawn killed on a lethal obsession, im getting this s rank idc

[marsh lark]

That must be either extremely rare, or you somehow pissed the suspects right when you did something from the start

[marsh lark]

It's hit or miss with the pathing really, many people experience these issues. Sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't.

[dreamy yoke]

couldn’t even tell ya i didn’t even get past “Suspects have planted traps” before getting popped

[marsh lark]

So, extremely rare then

[lime pilot]

Man the command used to not even work for me. I know it can be hit or miss but what im saying is I've noticed at least the shorter the path the better the command gets executed. Hope that helps

[marsh lark]

Yeah, maybe I should stop using "come to me", and instead just point to a place where I want them to go

[lime pilot]

Oh ye the come to me command had never worked right for me. I should have been more clear. Always pick a location for them to crawl too lol

[marsh lark]

Ye, got it, thanks

[dreamy yoke]

s rank acquired lets goooo

[hollow willow]

sorry, so i can do it on casual or it has to be on standard?

[stone bay]

How many suspects at lethal obsession?

[vestal mauve]

2-3

[toxic harness]

Casual if you don't care about other achievements. But if you want more achievements, try Standard or Hard.

For Ironman however for the Ruined Dev Watch, Standard only

[stone bay]

Is mirage at sea hardv

[toxic harness]

It is open in some areas but not as hard

[dreamy yoke]

ides of march stresses me out

[thin veldt]

there’s roughly $6,204 worth of keyboards in the PD (it’s probably less because i counted the unbranded keyboards as logitech keyboards) also there’s around 47 of them

[stone bay]

Whats the hardest ,,home,, dlc mission and ,,water,, dlc mission ( idk the dlc pack names )

[languid dagger]

I've finally got I'm too old for this

I'm now 0.1%

[thin veldt]

now get sea legs

[languid dagger]

This broken ass game can suck my balls

[toxic harness]

Base:

• Hide and Seek
• Greased Palms
• Relapse

Home Invasion:

• Narcos

Dark Waters:

• 3 Letter Triad

Los Sueños Stories

• Stolen Valor (not really)

[dreamy yoke]

god this is. a nightmare

[stone bay]

Thanks!! Is 3 Letter Triad that oil rig?

[languid dagger]

Why do people hate 3 letter triad?

[thin veldt]

the hotel

[languid dagger]

Nah it's the 3rd one

[stone bay]

The beach building kinda mission

[languid dagger]

Yeah I know

[thin veldt]

what happened to the hotel in the early builds? did it before idea of march or smthn?

[toxic harness]

That would be Leviathan. Sure Leviathan is really more open than Greased Palms, but 3 Letter Triad is lot more difficult cuz way more openings and even more suspects

[stone bay]

Ides and Sins are def hard

[toxic harness]

It became Sins of the Father. Instead of the Biker Gang, it's the Left Behind gang, an old retired military men

[toxic harness]

Not really compared to the others

[stone bay]

I found relapse pretty ok, the only thing was finding all suspects,

[thin veldt]

i need more of the left behind they are like only in like 3 missions🫡

[toxic harness]

Relapse would be #1 if the Bomb Timer is short as Elephant's

[thin veldt]

does difficult effect the timer?

[languid dagger]

I dunno I found greased palms harder on hard

[toxic harness]

Yeah but with Casual/Standard and Hard. Hard cuts down while the other 2 is normal time

[languid dagger]

Relapse is definitely top 5 but I'd probably make it 4 or 5

[toxic harness]

Relapse would be a nightmare if the bombs are shorter. Not only it has a lot more corners than Greased Balls, but the bomb is another top priority

[thin veldt]

i crashed after bringing order to chaos on relapse trying to S rank it🫡

[toxic harness]

At least Greased Balls, you can take your time

[languid dagger]

That's why you charge bombs first.

There really easy to deal with besides the sky bridge of doom

still traumatized

[thin veldt]

i was gonna say it’s like HLL clips

[toxic harness]

I never died at that area tho

[thin veldt]

you’re an anomaly then

[languid dagger]

With a tactical shield it's easy but if your on the bridge with nothing and an enemy spawns near a window you just get lasered

[toxic harness]

I always die at bomb sites tho

[languid dagger]

See we had the opposite problem

[thin veldt]

real

[languid dagger]

Bombs sites were easy with good flashbang placement

BUT MAN FUCK THAT BRIDGE

[thin veldt]

i watched one of the dudes next to me get dropped and i look over as he got shot. it was so cinematic🫡

[dreamy yoke]

i love traps (im lying.)

[thin veldt]

(he might be lying)

[languid dagger]

(He's probably lying)

[thin veldt]

(i don’t do absolutes) (he might be lying)

[copper cypress]

What advantages does the 9mm have in gaming that the .45 ACP doesn't?

[languid dagger]

(HES DEFINITELY LYING)

[thin veldt]

capacity

and maybe armor pen since 45. is very slow caliber

[thin veldt]

(HE MIGHT BE LYING)

[copper cypress]

Thanks

[thin veldt]

45. ACP AP is like a oxymoron

[dreamy yoke]

i just use the magnum and hope for the best

[stone bay]

is non lethal there too hard?

[spare path]

Anyone play on console I got a question about Search & Secure

[zinc haven]

hey guys is it better to do sleeper agent achievement lethal or not?

[rocky plover]

lethal is technically easier, but might require several restarts due to rng & time, less lethal takes very long and is ofc harder but it's pretty much guaranteed and you won't need to restart

[zinc haven]

then im having a skill issue

[zinc haven]

ty ❤️

[rocky plover]

don't worry both tactics are somewhat annoying anyways, i personally did it lethally with AI, but alot of my friends did it less lethal in a group

[rocky plover]

you're welcome mate

[marsh lark]

I doubt it makes a difference across platforms, if you press search & secure, they will secure all suspects, weapons, civilians, however they will not report any mission objectives (side objectives, or main objectives)

[toxic harness]

For Mirage, lethal may be harder as the Prince would be like "Ice the civilians! They're coming close!"

Meanwhile with Non Lethal, you have more time as the morale high for suspects to comply with more likely

[stone bay]

You mean he means to kill them?

[toxic harness]

Yes

[marsh lark]

Suspects comply when their morale is low, they do not comply when their stress is high

[toxic harness]

But if they have no morale, they would kill themselves

[stone bay]

Who?

[toxic harness]

Funny on Lethal, but not when it comes to Non Lethal

[stone bay]

Suspects killing themselves?

[toxic harness]

Yeah

[stone bay]

Only on this level?

[toxic harness]

Theoretically any level could do that

[stone bay]

Never happend to me

[marsh lark]

Actually it works a bit different, lemme reword it. They are unlikely to surrender, but also unlikely to open fire when their stress is low, after constantly yelling you will wear out their morale and surrender. If their stress is high, they will gradually change their stance and will stop patrolling and seclude to some areas where they will have their weapons raised, their reaction time is faster and will almost immediately open fire on you. Suspects have a chance that they spawn with 0 morale, if that happens they will not open fire on you no matter what, they will surrender unless something increases their morale, they may be reluctant to surrender if there is another suspect in their LOS

[toxic harness]

For me it happened with Meth Heads and some Los Locos

[stone bay]

You said more time, does that mean that if i take too long even on non lethal they will start killing civs

• if i use flashbangs does that make them kill the civs?

[marsh lark]

They have 7 different or so stances depending on their stress

All from passive, neutral to hostile, hostage taking etc

[modest hare]

Hi 👋

[toxic harness]

I think it is timed when you don't detain the Prince. I assume on Lethal runs it would be shorter while Non Lethals its normal time

[stone bay]

So if i arrest the prince the civs wont be executed

Or taken hostage

[marsh lark]

Not really, they will start executing civilians after 3 minutes since mission start

For Elephant it is after 1 minute and 30 seconds

[rocky plover]

can happen alot on neon tomb and relapse (even on S rank runs)

[stone bay]

Mirage?

[toxic harness]

Well basically if you arrest him, he would not give orders to every suspects to do it. But ofc some suspects would still do it on their own terms

[marsh lark]

For Mirage it is after 3 minutes, yes

The prince can probably speed up the timer though

[stone bay]

Damn, what starting point?

[marsh lark]

Either after first contact or after mission starts

[rocky plover]

3 mins on standard, 2 mins on hard btw

[stone bay]

• il just go storm the boat them, no mirror gun just breach every door, like i did on elephant

[stone bay]

I meant what starting point is the best

[marsh lark]

Oh, yeah idk which is the best, the prince seems to be located near the control room where the COAST keeps hailing the ship, so maybe from there, though idk what starting position that is

that is from my experience, sometimes I found him on the lower deck

[toxic harness]

He's usually at 1st Floor or 2nd floor for me

[rocky plover]

aft deck, sundeck is also good tbh

[stone bay]

i see

No traps tho?

[rocky plover]

nope

not even on hard, (just less time before he gives the order to kill)

[stone bay]

I see, ima just go with the non lethal ar

[rocky plover]

if you get good rng and quickly find sahid, then just take it slow and its quite easy

suspects hesitate quite alot there and won't literally spray you (if you keep their stress levels low)

[wide verge]

yeah gotta find him asap or he calls his goons to kill the hostages. once you get him it's a breeze

[toxic harness]

M32A1 >>> Beanbag

[rocky plover]

agree, that fucking weapon made hard mode basically cheese mode lol

[toxic harness]

More like bearable

[rocky plover]

still fucking op if you ask me, 3 full drums with light armor + extra slot for something like a taser or wedge or lockpick gun, that's like 18 guaranteed suspects

take the m320 launcher aswell and make it from 18 guaranteed to 22 XD

[stone bay]

Somebody know where that is?

[rocky plover]

same floor as sundeck, or floor above if going from aft deck, his position can vary though, so it's not always the same

[marsh lark]

Yeah it is random, but I have seen him in the control room most of the time

[fallen bobcat]

There's traps on dorms on hard? Fuuuuck

[rocky plover]

yeah

[stone bay]

But is it like quamadah at hospital map where he often spwans at mri, its not 100% tho. Is it like that with the price? Probably there but not 100%?

[restive mulch]

qadamah: neon tomb not like us!

[toxic harness]

Mhm

[rocky plover]

he can be almost anywhere, but as Medojed said it seems to be a higher % for him to be on the top floor

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile Hide and Seek, and 3 Letter Triad having more suspects than 3 full cylinders

[stone bay]

And thats where aft deck is?

[toxic harness]

Meanwhile he's always on the 1st-2nd floor for me

[rocky plover]

unless you get more than 1 suspects with each flashbang shot XD

[restive mulch]

relapse is genuinely the worst map I’ve ever played in a video game

[rocky plover]

yeah i've encountered him there aswell quite a bit

[toxic harness]

"you will not survive the SWAT4 game"

[rocky plover]

yea or above but like i said he can be anywhere, that's why i like taking the aft deck so i can quickly check down first, if not i go directly up and start from top to bottom

[stone bay]

But what is the starting point at the very top level?

[rocky plover]

that's sun deck

[stone bay]

Alr, thanks

[rocky plover]

👍

[wide verge]

spawn on sundeck is good, turn around after spawn and go down the small stairs. often the main suspect is in that area with the big windows on either sides just below sundeck

[fringe skiff]

By default, does each bodypart of the player and team member have their own value or not?

[languid dagger]

Does ironheart achievements have any special conditions like hard mode?

[ocean cargo]

Much prefer relapse than greased palmes ngl

[languid dagger]

Same

[ocean cargo]

At least on relapse you can usually always see suspects and they aren’t wall banging you throguh 50000 boxes

[languid dagger]

Relapse has actually competent level design

[wide verge]

relapse isn't that bad. it's quite linear and suspects are contained in different areas

[ocean cargo]

Agreed

S tier on release was way less rage inducing than greased palmes

[wide verge]

I dont even use wedges on relapse

[languid dagger]

And is hard due to intentional game mechanics rather then bad ai and shitty design like greased palms

[ocean cargo]

Now that’s actually crazy

[languid dagger]

I don't use wedges at all

I've never seen the point

[ocean cargo]

I bring enough to cover the stairwell doors so they can’t flank from different floors/rotate around

[wide verge]

wedges trivialize maps like ides of march or sins of the father

[ocean cargo]

They help so much depending on the map. S tier on ides of March and valley of dolls is genuinely a peace of cake when you have enough wedges

[wide verge]

it's like extra security so you can take the whole team with you

[ocean cargo]

Great minds think alike lmaooooo

Ides is actually a joke if you bring enough wedges s tier is easy as hell on it

[wide verge]

on relapse tho..I never found them that useful there. I clear area by area and suspects rarely roam around

[coarse yarrow]

bro i’ve been looking for this last civ for 30 minutes on this car dealership map

[rocky plover]

standard or higher

[languid dagger]

I've never used them I don't know why I should but if it works for you guys good

[ocean cargo]

On relapse it’s good for the stairwells to make sure the ai can’t go around and then flank behind you/rotate between floors

[languid dagger]

I know but do I need certain ranks like I'm too old for this?

[wide verge]

thats pain. keep running around yelling maybe they will run towards you

[ocean cargo]

Especially on relapse when’s there a decent chance for suspects to spawn inside the stairwells

[dreamy yoke]

finnnee ill consider wedges in my kits

[rocky plover]

no, but if you do not get it, replay last mission and get C or higher

[wide verge]

I use wedges mainly because having 5 guys for some of these missions is ridiculous from a realism view. You'd send a whole damn squadron for some of these. I like to set up secure perimeters and wedge of areas behind me so I can take the full team with me clearing

[ocean cargo]

Well the lore for ready or not is you’re only half the team iirc

The other half in theory is deployed at the other entrances but they don’t do that obviously

[wide verge]

I think for some missions thats true but not for all

[coarse yarrow]

the civ is glitched

[ocean cargo]

Yeah it’s only ones that have multiple entrances I think

[coarse yarrow]

i js found him and i cant cuff him

[restive mulch]

greased palms is easy if you don’t charge in like an idiot

in relapse everyone has guns that can pen through walls and there’s like 20 of them

[ocean cargo]

I have never been wallbanged on relapse

[wide verge]

getting the main guy on relapse alive has always been so random to me

[coarse yarrow]

omds

[ocean cargo]

I get shot from totally invisible people on greased palmes

[restive mulch]

have you ever played relapse then

[ocean cargo]

Yeah I s tiered it really recently actually lmao

[wide verge]

I gotta play Leviathan more. Probably played it only 3 times and haven't figured out the layout yet

[restive mulch]

what is this? some kind of relapse?

[coarse yarrow]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message what do i do in this situation

[restive mulch]

order teammates to restrain

[coarse yarrow]

i did

[wide verge]

try your best to somehow reach the civ. try calling them to you

[restive mulch]

something similar happened to me in ends of the earth where my teammate randomly restrained an invisible person glitched through the stairs

[coarse yarrow]

i tried ordering him to move to me

[restive mulch]

shoot them

[coarse yarrow]

bro he’s fully stuck behind the chairs

[coarse yarrow]

i wasted all my bullets out of boredom

[wide verge]

if nothing works, not much you can do. glitched unfortunately

[coarse yarrow]

was looking for this civ for a good 20-30min

[wide verge]

on hide and seek a civ got stuck behind a crane. couldnt reach him and he wouldnt move. had everything s rank ready only this one guy left. ffs

[fallen bobcat]

guys i think suspect killed himself right in the beggining of the mission...i was clearing dorms and got to the end and there's mf on the ground next too sawed off. Wtf is this shit

so i heard gunshot at the beginning but i thought it was just sus shooting at me thru the wall

[restive mulch]

yes they can do that

it’s how my relapse run got ruined, a guy killed himself as I opened the door to beanbag him

[rocky plover]

happened to me on relapse last year, i threw CS gas and it fell through the ground and ended up in the basement, by the time I made my way there, he had killed himself

[restive mulch]

is there like a trigger which makes them do that or do they just do it randomly

[rocky plover]

i think if their morale goes to 0

[fallen bobcat]

but not like as soon as i enter the building wtf

[rocky plover]

ye, that's super weird

i see it happening the most with suspects on neon tomb, relapse, suspects like brixley, etc.

[coarse yarrow]

i ordered my teammates to search and secure and they arrested the guy through the wall

[surreal merlin]

what does the single file and double file mean when ordering the team to fall in?

[coarse yarrow]

formation

[surreal merlin]

yes but like what exactly do they do like how does it look after

[marsh lark]

"When suspect's morale is 0, they are supposed to surrender when yelled at, 0 morale suspects also tend to auto surrender upon seeing swat"

[rocky plover]

single file is you in front and everyone behind you (last man watches rear & ones in between watch left and right)
double file is you in front with other ones behind you but 2 coloumn instead (good for wider corridors for a little more front coverage)

[rocky plover]

that's 0 stress i think, but not really sure

[surreal merlin]

and the others?

[marsh lark]

Automod triggered and deleted my message, don't know what triggered it? Anyway, according to the sheet MMMM updates to this day, there is no information about suspects taking their own life.

[rocky plover]

diamond is exactly as the shape basically (equal coverage), wedge is similar to diamond (basically strong front coverage usefull for charging front direction) V shape basically

[marsh lark]

They have 7 states: Passive, Suspicious, Hesitating, Defense State, Active, Roaming and Active 0 Morale

[surreal merlin]

oh well that makes sense

[rustic jackal]

In real life the squad leader is supposed to be in the middle of the stack for the diamond formation not that it’s relevant seeing as I’m not sure the game does it properly

[rocky plover]

diamond & wedge useful for open areas (with wedge being better for charging front but if you have unknows from many directions diamond can be safer), while single/double file for indoors (double better for wide corridors).

[marsh lark]

Actually no, you are right. There is one little detail, I will quote this "High Stress = Active suspects pre-contact, more gunfights/hostages/suicides"

[rocky plover]

yeah agree, so he can keep on focusing on giving commands but oh well its a game XD

[marsh lark]

So increasing the overall stress for all suspects can cause them to take their lives

[surreal merlin]

👍

thx

[rocky plover]

im not exactly sure how it works either, but seems to be when they get overwhelmed like high stress and low morale together, but not sure how it triggers exactly

[rocky plover]

welcome

makes sense that it happens to me on neon tomb and relapse alot more than other maps, because they start fully stressed there

[marsh lark]

Each shot gives some decimal point of stress to suspects, suspects in certain meter range of the audible shot will also increase their stress. Each hit on a suspect increases their stress as well, so you need to actively minimize random shots or misses in order to not increase suspect's stress.

[rocky plover]

yeah, there's alot of other factors aswell such as blasting doors, breaching doors, aiming down sight at them

[marsh lark]

Opening doors fast increases suspect's stress if they have LOS with the door, this also counts if suspects swing doors, they for some reason stress each other out by opening doors. Shooting, kicking a door, ressisting arrest, yelling, turning your back on suspects, aiming at them, this all raises their stress

[rocky plover]

yea exactly ^

[marsh lark]

Some of them give a set amount, while others give stress/per second

[rocky plover]

they can also share morale between each other, not sure about stress however

[marsh lark]

There is indeed mentioned morale, which is why Less than lethal is funky, you can beanbag suspect 20 times but when behind a wall (aka a dead space you cannot see, but the suspects sees it because he is in the back of the room) to his right is another suspect with full morale, they will just not give up until you lower the morale of the other suspects they have in their LOS

[rocky plover]

yea, for some reason happens alot with last suspect on almost every map aswell, he just never gives up, unless you tase him

also used to happen alot with S-vest suspects, i remember last year, on neon tomb, i had to fire my taser on the S-vest dude like 7 times

[marsh lark]

Knife suspects and S-vest suspects will not surrender if they are in a melee range. They may surrender but it is extremely unlikely

[rocky plover]

yea, i think this was tweaked recently however, it was different before

before range didn't matter that much, but since they did the rework on the enemy, they tweaked that aswell

same time when they added the weapons caches i believe

[marsh lark]

They will surrender more likely when they are at longer ranges, they also may receive higher morale penalty because they do not have firearms

[rocky plover]

yeah though on those types of suspects, funnily enough its the complete opposite on other suspects, they will ignore beanbags and compliance yells when far away

[marsh lark]

Yeah, bomb suspects and knife suspects have reduced morale by 0.25/s by visual contact with swat from what I understand

[rocky plover]

ye correct

[azure gyro]

Currently on Greased Hands, and eugene gomez decided to get stuck in some boxes, any way to unstuck civs? Ive played this over 50 times now (ive counted)

[amber dock]

maybe SWAT AI can reach him, or try using voice commands to get him to move. besides that might be a failed run sadly

[azure gyro]

multiplayer...

[amber dock]

Then might be cooked

[azure gyro]

this game can go to hell bro, finally get a run done and it decided to destroy it with something out of my control

[marsh lark]

If you play with mods, you can use QoL mod that lets you add AI swat teammates to multiplayer lobbies

[sullen glade]

Anyone else having suspects disappear and reappear depending what way you move?

[amber dock]

Nope but they can move around and hunt you down

[sullen glade]

Like they aren't moving, just completely vanishing

Just had it happen on rust belt

[rocky plover]

yeah, happened to me on port hokan, when they are very far away

[sullen glade]

Yeah far away it's more often but this one was maybe 10m away from me

[rocky plover]

happened to me on rust belt in the tunnel aswell at the very end, when i moved in, he appeared far back near the boat soft objective

[amber dock]

Send video of what you mean with replays or something cause I need to see what is actually happening

[sullen glade]

Can't now bc he killed me lol but he was 10m away in a different room. I could see him, he could see me, but if i moved left right or tilted then he'd disappear

[rocky plover]

sometimes it can happen aswell with mirron gun, they get stuck visible on mirror gun, but not actually there

[amber dock]

You'll need to send some video proof cause I've never heard of something like this ever

[sullen glade]

I'll keep an eye out and clip it next time it happens

[rocky plover]

ye same, that is if i remember lol

[sullen glade]

Normally i'd be like eh whatever just a random glitch but too much weird shit is happening

[rocky plover]

ye same XD, i'd quickly move on and don't bother lol

[rain tulip]

Is the game worth it

[rocky plover]

imho yes, but only you can really answer that for yourself

[azure gyro]

Its slow, thats the most important part

and you will fail, a lot, but if your down for that, its excellent

[sullen glade]

the game is definitely worth it if you can enjoy a slower paced tactical shooter. WOuldn't recommend if you're looking something to replace COD or battlefield

[humble aspen]

I have a question, how do you save a hostage situation with out shooting the enemy behind? What's the best strategy for that?

[sullen glade]

probably taser or grenade

[rain tulip]

I want like a swat game

[sullen glade]

Then this is the one for you

[humble aspen]

Is the grenade launcher viable?

[sullen glade]

Yep

Just don't aim for the head haha

[humble aspen]

Alrighty I will test it when I can! Thank you. (And I can't promise I won't aim at the head xD)

[sullen glade]

Basically anything that applies a stun effect will do the job, but might take a couple tries especially if it's Agent Adams

[humble aspen]

Noted!

[sullen glade]

Taser to the forehead is always a fun option

[rain tulip]

Should I get reg version or the version with the extra dlcs

[sullen glade]

I'd recommend the DLCs, but if you play multiplayer only the lobby host needs the DLCs for them to be playable

[bitter echo]

I have a recommendation for console on ready or not and In general maybe a sheriff and police patrol officer section in clothing if you bought the deluxe you auto get it

[fallen bobcat]

dlcs r good but there's like 8 dlc missions. So decide yourself

[rocky plover]

6 the other 2 are free

[languid dagger]

Depends are you lethel?

If not then flash grenade taser

Or leaving the area long enough are your only choices

[chilly crane]

God looking for civvies is so boring 😭 And Search and Secure is garbage too

[tulip rampart]

took me seven tries but i finally solo S-tiered lethal obsession

[chilly crane]

No ai?

[lapis shuttle]

is there any reason to keep empty magazines rather than fast reload?

[chilly crane]

You can combine magazines when enough are low

[sullen glade]

Search and secure only works if all civvies have surrendered

[tulip rampart]

no AI teammates

[sullen glade]

I just chuck empty mags tbh

[humble aspen]

Roger there. I'm just tryna to do full non lethal and get S rank. The one thing is struggled with is when they grab hostage. Thanks for the tip! 👍

[languid dagger]

H-how did it take that long?

[tulip rampart]

because i suck

[languid dagger]

What were you kicking open every door?

[sullen glade]

Hard mode?

[languid dagger]

Like I'm not saying you suck I'm just wondering how that happens

[tulip rampart]

no i checked for traps, just the suspects kept jumpscaring me, especially the roof guy

[restive mulch]

many such cases

[tulip rampart]

nah i don't do hard mode

[languid dagger]

I mean yeah the dudes armored and also they have decent guns

[sullen glade]

Yeah don't, it's so broke haha

[tulip rampart]

standard is for me

[sullen glade]

roof guy is pretty insane tbh

[restive mulch]

elephant is quite the ass map

[languid dagger]

I finally got the hard mode achieved and I can officially say

FUCK HARD MODE AND THESE STUPID ASS AIMBOT AI

[tulip rampart]

i duo s-tiered that one first try lol

[languid dagger]

I enjoy it

[tulip rampart]

he has wallhacks even on standard

[languid dagger]

I don't enjoy civilian hunting on it ESPECIALLY ON HARD MODE because they place traps

[restive mulch]

it’s a 50-50 if the bots want to kill civilians after 2 minutes which automatically ruins any s rank run

[sullen glade]

Well done, now all on S tier

[languid dagger]

I've never had them kill a civilian

[tulip rampart]

we must've got lucky then

[restive mulch]

many such cases

[tulip rampart]

i ALMOST s-ranked greased palms yesterday but i ragequit because one singular suspect died and we got an A+

[lapis shuttle]

greased palms S is pretty easy with 2 intimidators

[sullen glade]

I also almost got it but last guy one shot killed me, i was so pissed. Only damage i took was to my arm once

It's definitely not easy to S on hard

[lapis shuttle]

hard mode is bs imo the ai is way too aggressive and strong

[languid dagger]

I have s on every map so I don't know

[sullen glade]

Agreed, the AI needs a nerf and to stop wallhacking

[languid dagger]

Listen hard wouldn't be so bad if the aim was tweaked and enemies couldn't wallbang consistently

[sullen glade]

Exactly, just even out the battlefield

[languid dagger]

I also think ai needs to not be able to see if it's too dark

The druggies in a cave are straight up supernatural

[tulip rampart]

john wick ahh meth heads

[sullen glade]

hmm I S tiered the cave no problem

[languid dagger]

Fucking batman dude just sitting in a dark cave with a block and aimbot

[rocky plover]

or last suspect turns john wick lol

[languid dagger]

I did aswell but it's unrealistic af when I need a flashlight and nightvision and they just see me immediately

[lapis shuttle]

shield makes hard mode much easier also makes the cave easier

[tulip rampart]

once i S-rank relapse, neon tomb, and valley of the dolls i will officially retire from the force

[sullen glade]

Oh i just did it all with a laser haha

[languid dagger]

No... you need to do ironheart hard mode s rank all maps.

Then you can retire

[tulip rampart]

nuh uh

"i decide when im done" -lightning mcqueen

[restive mulch]

What are you? some kind of elephant?

[languid dagger]

What are we some kind of ready or not?

That movie sucks so bad

[tulip rampart]

touch me again and ill shove that wrench right up yer arse

dammit i couldnt read that

[restive mulch]

war of the worlds is the best movie of all time

[languid dagger]

Both

[restive mulch]

top 5 quotes ever “they’re stealing our data”

[hidden coral]

absolute legend

[restive mulch]

did you know that in the war of the worlds 2025, an Amazon employee is depicted as being happy working? this is a reference to the movie being fictional

[languid dagger]

0.1% of players unlocked it and I'll tell you thats way to high

No one should go through that torment

[sullen glade]

I have been subjecting myself to punishment trying to S every map on hard

[sacred rain]

Servers down?

[marsh lark]

Appears that way, yes.

[cobalt rover]

i also get "unable to connect to epic services"

[sullen glade]

Epic is an embarrasment that's 3 days in a row lol

[fringe hawk]

Is Epic having issues again?

[sacred rain]

Seen something about anti-cheat on twitter

[cobalt rover]

cool, imagine buying a game to play with your friends and you just can't play because an house that owns one of the most sold games in all life can't hold a server well

[sullen glade]

I'd be more pissed if it was something VOID could help, but they can't help it tbf

[cobalt rover]

nah, i would complain yea but VOID isn't big as epic is, so im more pissed off because the big one is acting worse than the smaller one

[sullen glade]

I do blame console players though

[sacred rain]

I have the game on steam and Xbox as I'm a loyal consoomer

[frail pier]

Alrighty....
EOS integration is the worst thing that's happened to RoN

[keen gust]

why cant i host a friends only lobby? im pressing create game and nothing happens

[frail pier]

https://status.epicgames.com/

[keen gust]

thx

[vernal bane]

[sullen glade]

I'm glad i never buy anything on epic - they don't deserve my money

[turbid moth]

is the epiic services down for yall?

[frail pier]

https://status.epicgames.com/
Yes

[turbid moth]

awh

[upbeat shore]

Hey HustlerZ, is the epic service down?

[turbid moth]

[austere pewter]

is anyone having problems finding lobbies?

[frail pier]

No working as intended, give it a go.

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-edward-nashton-this-is-not-how-this-was-supposed-to-go-ahh-screaming-gif-26252286

[restive mulch]

do you know if the servers are down HustlerZ?

[flat comet]

epic down rn?

wont let me or my friend host a game

[upbeat shore]

https://status.epicgames.com/

[frail pier]

Idk ask Crussong

[upbeat shore]

Yeah ask HustlerZ

[frail pier]

Be sure to ping him when you do

[restive mulch]

hey are the epic servers down right now?

[upbeat shore]

Just like this: @frail pier

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-keanu-reeves-confused-confused-look-confusion-gif-18200207

[austere pewter]

can anyone ping admins 🤑 ? servers r still down

[sullen glade]

It's epic not VOID's fault

[austere pewter]

they dont host their own servers???

[sullen glade]

VOID are only a small dev company so no

[upbeat shore]

Literally no game company does..

Hosting your own game servers is financial suicide.

[frail pier]

I love being at the mercy of Epics uptime

[austere pewter]

ait didnt know that

how expensive can it be tho

[upbeat shore]

Few millions per year

[frail pier]

Cheaper than I expected tbh

[austere pewter]

why didnt they let steam host the servers, if they even do that

[upbeat shore]

Its a bit (this means A LOT) more complicated, mate 😅
And Steam does not offer the same service that Epic does.

[austere pewter]

damn

[frail pier]

RoN is working again

[indigo heron]

liar

[coarse yarrow]

two of my teammates died on the last suspect on a s rank run 💔

[frail pier]

I was able to open a lobby, Im in it rn

[blazing raft]

Yo guys Dark Waters DLC is peak

[wraith pawn]

Are the servers giving anyone else shit? Everytime i finally start a session and my friend joins it kicks us

[blazing raft]

3 letter triad tho is difficult asf