👮ron-discussion

[rocky plover]

was it on casual mode? needs to be on standard or higher

[azure karma]

all standard

[marble flume]

Negotiator is also a broken trait. If you have two officers that have it, you have a 50% chance of making someone instantly surrender on first compliance yell

[rocky plover]

thats weird, maybe mods?

[azure karma]

no mods installed rn either

[stone bay]

So should I clear every misson on non lethal for s clear then just go lethal if I want?

[azure karma]

when i get into the game i just click the big CONTINUE button and just play from there

[rocky plover]

commander mode then

hmmm idk what to tell you, it should count

[azure karma]

whats the difference between commander and pressing continue tho

[marble flume]

you can if you want, although I'd prefer you go for S on Stardard difficulty lmao

[rocky plover]

it's the same

[azure karma]

strange then

[marble flume]

If you have the option to replay a level, you're not on commander

[stone bay]

@marble flume yes of course standard first thanks 😁

[rocky plover]

it can be on commander, just not iron man enabled

[marble flume]

I mean, I can't even enable ironman anyway lmao

[stone bay]

Ironman what's that supposed to mean

[night oxide]

You die deletes save

[rocky plover]

^

[azure karma]

ok so when i specifically go into commander mode the S ranks i earned when I was just pressing CONTINUE are saved there but theyre not counting towards medal of valor

sorry if this is phrased badly ill try and clear it up if you wnat

[dreamy magnet]

To everyone with the diamond watch….. genuinely HOW?

[stone bay]

@night oxide OH.

[uneven haven]

does anyone know if the Dev's have addressed any of the issues people have raised in the past week or two regarding the AI on Hard mode?#

[thorny falcon]

Flash launcher

[marble flume]

Not that I'm aware of lmao

[fathom scarab]

Speaking of Commander, can you replace your officers ?
I played mission 2 and got screwed a lot so I had a save where I had all my officers stressed out but I just restarted. What do you do if you can't just make a new save ?

[rocky plover]

just go lethal and don't care for scores, but care for managing stress levels

[azure karma]

you unlock more officer slots as you do more missions which you can use to roll more officers with different traits

[uneven haven]

man that's tragic, it's amazing how the game ran and preformed better in beta XD

[rocky plover]

you can have up to 3 saves at once, plus can also delete and make new saves. also you can send officers to therapy if they are stressed and can hire more officers if you have slots left

[marble flume]

I mean, the AI's been shit since day 1 lmao

[fathom scarab]

But what happens if you don't have slots left ?

[azure karma]

you fire people

[fathom scarab]

Oh ok

[marble flume]

It basically doesn't even matter anyway, you enter a mission with a full team even if you don't have a full team assembled in the first place

[uneven haven]

i'm convinced it's worse now though. i don't remember it being this bad in 2023/2024? could be wrong though. the bugs are definetly new though

[fathom scarab]

I couldn't find the fire option so I restarted the save cause I didn't wanna be stuck with a bunch of officers with PTSD on mission 2

[rocky plover]

another trick you can do is, play a very quick and easy map with less lethal, and their stress levels go down, might take several times depending on their degree of stress

[uneven haven]

i've just realised i've been playing hard mode for the Hermit achievement and the ironman mode is bugged and didn't enable... god damn this game has become C&B Torture XD

[dreamy magnet]

Do yall think they will tone down the hard dif AI ?

[rocky plover]

ye people been having problems enabling iron man mode after the console update

[uneven haven]

probably not if they havent even addressed it as an issue

[dreamy magnet]

W

[uneven haven]

i wan't to put my head in a microwave after this.... I can't believe it XD

[marble flume]

I love how none of my SWAT officers watch my back, or my front, or basically anthing for that matter

[uneven haven]

thank you VOID for my raised blood pressure XD

[rocky plover]

🤣

[marble flume]

At this point I'm convinced less lethal is actually easier on Hard

[rocky plover]

not really, but easier without the swat AI that's for sure lol

[uneven haven]

the SWAT AI has 100% been effected.. they just don't respond like the enemy AI does

[marble flume]

honestly the SWAT AI is just a hinderance at this point lmao

[uneven haven]

SWAT is only good now for hoovering up evidence at the end of a mission XD

[rocky plover]

yea, they just block me, get me or themselves killed, plus you gotta babysit them lol

exactly^ i just leave them at spawn or lock them in a room, then at the end i just tell them to search and secure

[marble flume]

I'm telling you right now, I could bring two Intimidators, waltz into this map with a fucking tazer and s-rank the entire map with almost no difficulty at all

Lethal is actually harder than less lethal is

[mint zodiac]

Lethal is just more fun

[uneven haven]

would you recommend using non lethal gear for a HARD non death playthrough?

thats if i ever try again... my heart can't take another bugged ironman playthrough XD

[rocky plover]

why go through the torture of hard in ironman run in the beginning though lol

[marble flume]

with the right traits, less lethal is honestly easier on S difficulty outside of about four maps

[rocky plover]

where they start stressed already

[dreamy magnet]

Watch

[uneven haven]

its mainly to get the Hermit achievemnt really, ill try a non lethal mission to test it

[rocky plover]

dont need hard mode though, standard is enough

[marble flume]

christ I forgot how dogshit any 5.56 gun is in this gam

[uneven haven]

I love the idea of my blood pressure spiking and being hospitalised by VOID for even attempting it

[dreamy magnet]

Is standard the same difficulty of the game before there was an option ?

[rocky plover]

yes

[old lantern]

I would never be able to do a permadeath run I die to traps way more frequently than I’d like to admit

[uneven haven]

I just tried Rust belt on HARD non lethal and got slapped the second i walked around the corner XD

these cartel junkies must be on SKOOMA

[old lantern]

I found rust belt to be one of the easier missions

[dreamy magnet]

What’s everyone’s favorite gun ?

[worn dirge]

Npc keep dropshotting💀

[uneven haven]

SA58 for me

[old lantern]

SA58 is a beast

[uneven haven]

they added that in with the 'FAZE' update

[marble flume]

I love how I can whiff seven 5.56 shots on a guy and the dude simply doesn't care, lines up an accurate shot and kills me anyway

[uneven haven]

slaps the Fentanyl right out of the Mexican AI

[rocky plover]

wdym, 5.56 only takes 2 shots to down even L4 armor

[dreamy magnet]

I might be insane but I enjoy the wallhacking aim botting AI.

[uneven haven]

someone section this man, he needs help XD

[marble flume]

What I mean is, "suppressive fire" quite literally does NOTHING to the enemy AI, whereas it completely fucks your vision even if they're missing their shots or shooting at you through a wall

[rocky plover]

ohhh i see, ye true

[errant bane]

also ai never have to bandage injuries

[marble flume]

I said "whiff" cause I fucked up and didn't hit any of my shots lmao, but its annoying that the AI doesn't respond to anything except stagger or death

[marble flume]

To be fair, they can't bandage injuries and actually bleed out if they get one

[errant bane]

true but they should get the same debuffs

[marble flume]

yeah they don't lmao, the AI literally does not care until they die

[errant bane]

can’t walk can’t hold their gun or some shit like that

like if i shoot them in the foot 3 times they should fall over or at the very least limp around

[rustic jackal]

I didn’t until I learned I can shoot through every surface they can

[marble flume]

they're a lot more accurate than you though lmao, but the full-auto battle rifle through the wall DOES seem rather effective

[old lantern]

Do you guys actually make use of the helmet cams?

[marble flume]

occasionallly

[old lantern]

I find them sorta pointless

[dreamy magnet]

When I multiplayer it’s always in a duo and I have it on. It can definitely be useful

[marble flume]

its a quick "are the bots actually doing what I told them to do" button

[old lantern]

Ahhh I see

[rustic jackal]

yep they have near perfect accuracy combine that with the 50ms reaction time and what can go wrong

[fervent hinge]

Uhh it helps me know where my team mate is when he just wanders off

[mint zodiac]

Absolutely

[old lantern]

Damn maybe I’m doing it all wrong fr

[stone bay]

THERE IS NO TOMORROW
THERE IS NO TOMORROW!

[modern ledge]

I love that I get hit with a unauthorized use of force when I'm shooting at a dude actively shooting me wtf?

[delicate grail]

it confuses me
when people host a public lobby
then dont start a mission????

[stone bay]

@delicate grail ^

[fervent hinge]

Maybe waiting for full lobby?

[delicate grail]

what?

[delicate grail]

Sometimes they still just sit around with a full lobby

[fervent hinge]

Life is kuch nicer when you have already s ranked the map and you can freely mag dump everyone (when the civilian takes out their phone to film me)

[split flax]

Am I the only unable to cuff suspects surrendered on the Oil rig mission? Bots keep screaming to them, all the prompts gray despite them already being on their knees

[vivid crystal]

What do u think if ready or not comes to mobile

[split flax]

Portable stove

[fervent hinge]

We now made the game 1 gig
For every platform so everyone can play ot

[vivid crystal]

☕️

[vivid crystal]

We made are u a dev

[fervent hinge]

YOUR PLAYING WHAT FOR 20 HOURS

[fervent hinge]

I said it as a joke from devs pov

[vivid crystal]

Ohh 😂😂😂

[split flax]

Ready or not only 💢

[vivid crystal]

Iam going to start a cult if they don't put it on mobile devices

[fervent hinge]

Your multi tasking bro

[chrome tundra]

Are pepperball guns good now?

[viscid swift]

Someone’s battery will explode

[modern ledge]

^

[rustic jackal]

if your bots keep screaming and you can phase through them it’s bugged

[vivid crystal]

My head is hurting really hard after hearing this

[split flax]

Yup yup, but it's happening second time in a row

[rustic jackal]

maybe try restarting your game and attempt again? Only fix I can think of top of the dome

[vivid crystal]

Guys we all need pray to jesus. So that ready or not comes to mobile

[viscid swift]

It’s the only non lethal weapon I will run. 5 shots to a civ/suspect and they’ll get to the ground

[split flax]

:^

[viscid swift]

I keep killing fellas with the beanbag

[chrome tundra]

You wont kill them if you aim for the body

[rustic jackal]

best officer in los suenos

[chrome tundra]

Only headshots with it will kill them

[rustic jackal]

If I’m not mistaken limb shots can too

[viscid swift]

Yea I keep head tapping them idk why lol

[chrome tundra]

LOL

[chrome tundra]

Has never happened to me

Shot a guy 5 times in the limbs

[marble flume]

The RoE makes absolutely no sense at all

[chrome tundra]

Lived

[rustic jackal]

If you shoot them enough it can probably happen probably not instant like the headshots but I could be wrong I’ve only killed them with headshots too

[chrome tundra]

That has not happened to me so I have my doubts

[rocky marsh]

When do you guys think they'll send out another sale

[fringe stream]

Just bought RON on the ps5,now just waiting for it go download

[royal valley]

Welcome aboard

[radiant fulcrum]

No

[fringe stream]

Thanks

[radiant fulcrum]

Welcome, your first task will be greased palms on hard

[fathom scarab]

Omfg I just saw a tiktok about 23 Megabytes a Second and the game makes a lot more sense now

[amber dock]

On steam it's autumn then

[fathom scarab]

I thought you were just investigating a swatting and the dude's neighbors were crazy psychos who just come out to shoot you for no reason

[rocky marsh]

When's autumn..

[amber dock]

Sep to Nov

[rocky marsh]

I don't live in the US so I'm not familiar with seasons there except for summer and summer and summer

[digital finch]

Yea there’s a few different story lines connected with different missions, campaign jus puts them out of order

[rocky marsh]

Oh nice

[amber dock]

But I should mention that Steam Autumn sale is always hosted like Nov before Dec starts

[fathom scarab]

Btw, quick question
In some videos, I see people calling civilians over to detain them, how do you do that ?

[radiant fulcrum]

Florida be like

[digital finch]

Look at them and pull up commands, should be a “move to my position”

You can also tell them to move to the exit but they can get stuck in places so beware when using that

[amber dock]

Look at them with command crosshair and then middle mouse button then 'move'

'My position'

[fathom scarab]

Ohhhhhhh

[royal valley]

💀

[digital finch]

I really only use “move to exit” on elephant so they can’t get snatched up

[fathom scarab]

That's really useful, there's a bunch of times when I went over to detain a civvie in a weird place and got shot up so I was wondering

[digital finch]

I tagged you in a clip haha check it out

You’ll love the game, lots of unpredictable moments

[wicked temple]

Is the Ides of March apartment building visible from the police station?

[digital finch]

Honestly not sure, never thought to look

[wicked temple]

I believe the police station is somewhere in downtown LA the speech the senator made was right next to Santa Monica pier, there’s two tall buildings visible from the front of the police station. It’s really bugging me for some weird reason I have to know

Have the devs ever talked about replacing the mission select with like an interactive map?

[digital finch]

Didn’t the station look different with one of the DLCs? Never got to see it cus no PC

[wicked temple]

To my knowledge I believe the police station got remade once the game moved to 1.0

[ionic gale]

gratr

[vestal mauve]

That was what it used to be actually

[twin bramble]

Ya it used to just be a like a command base then they changed it into the museum

[vestal mauve]

I miss the old, dingy police station

[dense ginkgo]

I miss the old (better) graphics

[fathom scarab]

What exactly does the "Breach with Leader" command do ?
I thought it meant breach when I open the door but every time I used it they would just stay stacked and I'd clear by myself, so does it mean something else ?

[amber dock]

It means you throw whatever stuff you do and after that they push

[ionic gale]

When YOU enter the room first, they follow

[fathom scarab]

Hm ok so it must have just been me clearing the room too fast then

[wicked temple]

Oh that’s a shame. Do you know why they got rid of it?

[vestal mauve]

No idea

[fathom scarab]

How much can you trust the AI btw ? I find it hard to split the team up just because I don't believe that the AI officers won't kill themselves

[marble flume]

"Suspects have taken hostages."

"A hostage has been executed."

[noble pasture]

They skipped the pleasantries

[marble flume]

looks cool, usually gets people killed lmoa

Also hard difficulty is just so cringe, jesus

[vestal mauve]

Hard difficulty rules with friends

[fathom scarab]

Yeah I'm playing standard only rn cause I hear bad things about Hard lmfao

[marble flume]

Also it annoys me that TOC somehow fucking KNOWS by some level of voodoo magic that a suspect has taken a hostage.

How do you know this? We don't even have offsite snipers like in SWAT 4

[wicked temple]

I trust them as far as I can throw them. That said I have grown emotionally attached to my officers and leave them in a room while I clear a map so they don’t have a chance at dying

[fathom scarab]

I desperately want to get my friend on this game but he's still stuck on the Xbox One

[twin bramble]

I want to get my friends on this game but I don’t want them to buy and then the game keeps crashing or sum it sounds like every copy has its own issues

[marble flume]

On less lethal I hide em somewhere cause I need them alive for traits. On lethal runs I do not give a fuck what happens to these people

[royal valley]

Offsite cameras monitoring the area or thermal imaging?

[twin bramble]

I just told them to wait a month or two lol

[marble flume]

Its just voodoo magic. If a civilian dies, TOC also magically knows if it was YOU that shot him or not

[royal valley]

Headcam feed

[marble flume]

for fucks' sake, they give you instant warning about "violating your RoE" even if you don't catch a penalty for it

[fathom scarab]

Me when the videogame is a videogame and doesn't let you get an S rank by turning your bodycam off

[errant bane]

“entry team stop violating your ROE!!!!”

[royal valley]

I guess there are some things which are not really properly explained. We can only assume

[twin bramble]

It’s just

[marble flume]

I've had suspects hear me shout at a civilian in a different room I haven't even entered yet, take a hostage in a fuckin bathroom and TOC knows somehow

[twin bramble]

I only joined the force about a year ago

[errant bane]

man fuck the ROE toc let’s see you go in there and get shot at and see what you do

[wintry barn]

Why in the game folder, it appears Ready or not but with epic games logo, also epic games services
Im playing on steam

[marble flume]

Also I just did all 18 initial maps on an S rank, and coming from someone who just did that, I still have no fucking idea how you take a hostage taker alive apart from a grenade

[wintry barn]

Also why the main folder of everyone is diferent to mine?

Idk whats going on but i need help

[twin bramble]

The flash launcher literally has like a 80% of stunning then completely but then sometimes they’ll be stunned and still do the execution animation lmao

[wanton bloom]

Oh my god I did it, I finally S ranked elephant

[marble flume]

I literally lit up a hostage taker with a pepperball gun and he just shrugged it and shot the guy anyway

[wintry barn]

My game goes pretty well and randomly it drops to 40-30 fps, were can i search for help?

[twin bramble]

Ya I’d use the flash launcher not the grenade launcher one the actual launcher it tends to work in my experience

[wicked temple]

Nice! How’d you do it?

[marble flume]

To me the flash launcher basically felt like cheating, I haven't touched it since I used it like twice

[rocky marsh]

Have you guys tried watermelon with condensed milk and evaporated milk mixed together

[fathom scarab]

Random question I just thought about, in multiplayer, do enemies hear your voice chat ? Also is there an option to make it voice activated instead of push to talk

[wanton bloom]

Spawned north exit with the beanbag, clear the entire first floor, then the upstairs. Don’t worry about the civvies until the suspects are dead

[marble flume]

I don't even think enemies hear doors opening or you running around at a full sprint, despite the datamined game files saying they do

[twin bramble]

If you’re talking about the M32A1 ya I haven’t even touched it lol it just seems like it makes the game really easy the M32 at least only has 6 shots and you gotta reload each shell

[marble flume]

The M320 is fine cause it takes your tactical and you only have 4 shots. The fact that you can run 18 fucking flash grenades in the M32 plus a tazer is just absurd

[wanton bloom]

Did it on standard cause there’s no way in hell I’m worrying about tripwires on top of finding the suspects fast enough

[marble flume]

S rank on Hard I actually think is easier than full lethal on Hard lmao

Elephant is one of the four exceptions though, cause all suspects are already stressed

[wanton bloom]

The other 3 being?

[marble flume]

uhhhh, I think Neon Tomb, Lethal Obsession and Relapse.

honestly Lethal Obsession isn't a hard map regardless of how you play it though

[copper delta]

Yo I just downloaded RoN, do you guys have any tips on how to play the game?

[wanton bloom]

Lethal is the second easiest level in the game for me, behind the gas station one

[wanton bloom]

Don’t die, don’t shoot civvies

[marble flume]

Its arguably THE easiest honestly, you're almost always within Tazer range and the mirror is busted

Actually Ends of the Earth is probably the easiest map in the game

Its also one of the best maps in the game

[wanton bloom]

I got an A+ on ends of the earth without really even trying, but it’s definitely not easier than thank you come again or lethal

[twin bramble]

Play slow if you’re coming from call of duty you’re probably going to die a lot at first so get used to it and check your corners when clearing a room

[marble flume]

Most of the other maps is just "evil bad guy does fucked up shit"

[copper delta]

Coming from plat 3 siege 🙌🏽

[marble flume]

Map's really small, you're literally always within tazer range indoors, so just give em a zap

[wanton bloom]

That A+ was mostly cause I use the beanbag on every level most of the time, at least until I get frustrated with that and go full lethal

[copper delta]

Thank you

[marble flume]

Beanbag is the goat, but don't sleep on the tazer, its silent, has two shots and is basically an instant surrender

[still perch]

are there any mods that make my squad shoot quicker

[wanton bloom]

Yeah don’t play it like you’d play siege, this game is actually tactical

[copper delta]

Noted

[wanton bloom]

Nah I prefer to use that slot for flashes

[marble flume]

It also has a built-in lazer, and you'll probably be more accurate using canted aim with the lazer or just outright hipfiring with it.

You can also melee with the tazer and use it as a stun gun

[marble flume]

The beanbag shotgun is basically the ONLY good less lethal primary lmao (ignoring the M32, ofc), and you don't really need that much ammo for it either.

I was rocking only a few slots for the beanbags, a couple for the tazer and a ton of flashes

Each point gives you six tazer shots, which is pretty nuts

[wanton bloom]

I dunno why I bother carrying extra secondary mags tbh, those slots could be used on more flashes

[noble pasture]

I tried flash bang launcher and it sucks balls, it counts bangs as individual mags

[marble flume]

I didn't even fucking bother, the pepperball pistol is just shit. I mean, I don't even think the pepperball assault rifle is good lmao

[noble pasture]

So realistically you get only 3 or 4 mags at most

[wanton bloom]

I also use heavy armor cause you die unreasonably fast

[twin bramble]

I only give the pepper ball rifle to my AI and take away their secondary ammo and I run the Ben bag it’s makes S missions so easy

[marble flume]

brother you can have 18 shots if you put 12 points into it, which is an instant surrender on at least 18 suspects, if not more due to collaterals

[noble pasture]

Hahaha no. I saw a suspect on Ides or March surrender only after 4th shot

[marble flume]

sounds like something fucky then. check to see if he had line of sight to another suspect with full morale, that's one of the possible causes for that

[ionic gale]

sup

[wanton bloom]

Saw one mf on greased palms not give up after 3 beanbags to the chest, had an AK so he mowed me down after. As you could imagine, I was very not happy.

[marble flume]

Also, every once in the while the game just does weird shit, frankly, so if the first flash doesn't make him give up I'd just tazer bash him until he decides to do so

[twin bramble]

The AI is just stupid when you stun them it’s literally just spam compliance til they drop the gun lol half the time they don’t even do it unless you walk up and hit them on hard

[marble flume]

Yeah, if he doesn't surrender on the first beanbag I swap to the tazer. Might not work on Hard though, cause the stun is only 1.5 seconds on beanbags there

[wanton bloom]

I don’t carry a tazer and I only play standard

[restive swallow]

Any tips on having low latency in ron, ran network test on my console and it’s low, other games are low except for Ron

[marble flume]

honestly even on lethal I usually carry a tazer, since staggered suspects are great tazer targets and its also one of the only weapons in the game thats completely silent

[warm egret]

tazers are fire

[marble flume]

Its also funny to shoot a tazer into an annoying civilian that you don't feel like bashing

[wanton bloom]

Rust belt is next, already S ranked it with a friend so I’m just going full lethal lol

[marble flume]

IMO, it was a bit of a missed opportunity to make the Tazer and even CS Gas actually kill the grandma on Ends of the Earth, since she's got a bunch of medical issues

[twin bramble]

Rust belt on hard is so ass I stg that opening part is harder then the tunnel

[heady wadi]

Was at the very end of the twisted nerve only gas and pepper mission trophy, crashed when it was 1 civilian left, ty void

[rustic jackal]

were you the one that told me about voll on carriers of the vine? It was you also what you said makes no sense because canonically carriers of the vine is before valley so I’m not sure you’re right about the voll newspaper and if you are it was on something before that raid on his home

[normal karma]

COPD is certainlly something

[errant bane]

warzone in 2025

[ionic gale]

I don’t remember the timeline of events myself

[balmy patio]

how do you reduce sway on weapons

[rustic jackal]

walk slower

[balmy patio]

theres no attachments for it? or which weapons have the least sway

[rustic jackal]

I assume you’re referring to your weapon moving when moving forward?

[balmy patio]

yeah like it takes it a second for it to adjust the sight to where the cursor is while standing still

[twin bramble]

All weapons have the same basically. Also if you get shot in your arms your weapon sway increases drastically. You just have to slow walk or hold shift when aiming when walking to get zero weapon sway

[balmy patio]

do all guns have spread? since the suppressor says it increases accuracy but idk what they could mean by that

[twin bramble]

I dont know wym by spread just go into the range at the headquarters and full auto the target and bring it back to see recoil patterns and all that

[vale mulch]

You’re either not on 60fps mode or whatever console you’re on maybe has its own issues with it.

[balmy patio]

how badly does ping affect the game

[rustic jackal]

In my experience in playing on EU with 200 ping it only really effects restraining and sometimes my game won’t register me shooting at someone before I die especially on hard, doesn’t seem all that bad imo

[oblique saddle]

Im pissed physical release was delayed 🤦‍♂️

[gaunt raptor]

I played the first two missions and got A in both.

Thought this game about to be easy.

[rustic jackal]

greased palms will be waiting for you :))

[gaunt raptor]

Never mind that I can’t get over a C on twisted nerve 😭😂

[rustic jackal]

me and those cracked out methheads have beef on hard mode

ESPECIALLY THE ONE WITH THE blue vest

[gaunt raptor]

I may have missed the headshot when one of the civs got taken hostage 😀😀

[quaint estuary]

im soo ass i get a C on The Spider

[rustic jackal]

I don’t ever risk those engagements I just flash, suspects drop da hostage

[summer sequoia]

Here's the answer- literally nothing. "Increased accuracy" from suppressors does literally nothing.

It multiplies spread by like 0.85 which would reduce it... except non-12 gauge calibers have a spread of 0

im sure you guys went to elementary but 0.85 x 0 = 0 😛

[stone bay]

Hi swat members

[rustic jackal]

As a member of A platoon hello

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal hello😊
Thank you for your service

[rustic jackal]

nah I just sit around on my ass you should thank D platoon 😂

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal OH lol well
Hi😂

[balmy patio]

what about the flash hide and supressed mechanics, do the AI actually react different or have slightly lower radius to go aggro or its also just purely cosmetic

[rustic jackal]

from what I know the suppressors do reduce the aggro range

[gaunt raptor]

I’ll practice 🤣

[summer sequoia]

Actually yes, suppressed mechanics do slightly reduce aggro range. Flash hider is just for the player so you dont get blinded

[rustic jackal]

how’s your RoN experience

[gaunt raptor]

I only got a D and my whole team needs therapy

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal fantastic bro love everything
It sheds light on what these people actually have to do with
Love how real it is and they took there time
What about you?

[honest fern]

Whts u guys' most hated mission?

[stone bay]

Deal with

[rustic jackal]

I think I like it a little too much I’ve already done everything 😭 agreed with the take on how it represents the reality of the situations as well

[rustic jackal]

greased on hard 🥲

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal
Oh yea and how dark and gritty it gets

[honest fern]

Mine is the oil rig on hard

[rustic jackal]

I have yet to them on hard but I’m dreading 3 letter triad man

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal love to see when cod players run through here and get clapped instantly 😂

[rustic jackal]

oh brother I met cod kids once looking for a hyper tactical run and that was hell, I had to take the reigns and explain to 4 PEOPLE how to clear rooms 😭 ON HARD while trying to shoot back

[honest fern]

U did the villa yet?

[rustic jackal]

my pea brain couldn’t handle it

[rustic jackal]

3 letter triad is the villa I assume the one with the the funny package?

[honest fern]

Oh it is? Mb i thought u meant another mission

[rustic jackal]

these black sentinels scare me

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal they even implemented like if you step on a twig they are alerted and I heard some guy used his friend as a body shield to attack you
And they do drugs so they will still charge at you
The real life responses and everything

[rustic jackal]

I beat it on standard haven’t done it on hard

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal Ironman is brutal to

[rustic jackal]

yes the druggies are scary on hard 😭

[rustic jackal]

I enjoyed my ironman run was very fun being stressed out every mission

and I wasn’t limited to non lethal

[honest fern]

Sometimes i feel like non lethal is more effective

[karmic birch]

easiest mission to S is gas station and ends of the earth for sure

[stone bay]

I can't wait to s clear all the missions so I can do lethal
I love both parts but I like lethal more i think it's fair

[honest fern]

These enemies on hard takes like a whole mag to go down

[karmic birch]

maybe the college too

[rustic jackal]

wait until you get into the lore

[stone bay]

Lore?

[karmic birch]

story

[stone bay]

Ooh

[rustic jackal]

that’s why I exclusively use blackout or .308 I play no games with them

[rustic jackal]

If you get high grades on missions you get evidence in single player and it’s sick

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal off topic but what type of ssd do you have

[rustic jackal]

I am a console pleb sadly so no clue what I got in my console

[fathom scarab]

Trying to clutch out the Port mission on my own in multiplayer was so fucking hard
Idk how I'm gonna do it on commander

[honest fern]

I only use the g3a3 but theyre still way too tanky sometimes

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal oh no
Look into getting Samsung wd black sn850 I think it's called or a firecuda it will drastically improve gameplay

I'm console to

[rustic jackal]

do you get better fps?

[rustic jackal]

I run the LVAR and my silly SR16

been trying out more weapons and that GA416 is 🤌

[honest fern]

7.62 is stronger than .308 i think

So far i like g3a3 the best

[rustic jackal]

I think the 762 is the games equivalent of 308 if I’m not wrong not sure tho

[stone bay]

@rustic jackal read and write speed but idk about fps
But read and write speed is really important for gaming

[honest fern]

I found a spreadsheet thats tested every single weapon's dmg n shit

Not sure if its in here

[rustic jackal]

tell me the stats for M14 it’s my favorite gun

[rustic jackal]

what’s is read and write speed I’m a little slow don’t mind me

[plucky dove]

Question, anybody know if the Sleeper Agent timer is reset each time you kill/arrest or is the timer set on start to end.

[amber dock]

It resets every kill/arrest

[plucky dove]

Amazing thank you

[fathom scarab]

How fast data moves on a disk basically. An SSD drastically improves load time cause you can load textures, sound, models etc. much faster from the drive

[honest fern]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1878248973#gid=1878248973

[amber dock]

And the counter for 15 kills also start back at 0 if you fail to kill/arrest anyone within the 15 second window

[rustic jackal]

thank you for that about to cop that SSD I want more space anyways

[smoky flax]

Are there any armored enemies on greased palms

Getting so fucking annoying on hard mode

[plucky dove]

Is it individual or can multiple people earn it at once

[amber dock]

Everyone in lobby contribute to the achievement

[rustic jackal]

I think half have good armor half light armor but idk the armor levels by heart

[plucky dove]

Awesome, works out perfect then.

[fathom scarab]

Note that if you want it to work on PS5, make sure you get a good USB cable as well. Because it has to go from the SSD through the USB to the PS5, if your USB is really bad and slow then it won't give you the benefits

[rustic jackal]

the ps5 one is an internal SSD would I still need a cable?

[fathom scarab]

Oh if it's internal you're good, but just be sure you know what you're doing cause modding the PS5 in any way means voiding the warranty

[rustic jackal]

mines been voided for years now and I’m pretty sure there’s a SSD you can buy from PlayStation so I should be good, appreciate the info though gang you’re a g

[fathom scarab]

Nice, then yeah just plug in the SSD and you're good

[rustic jackal]

I’m jealous you have the gunfighter mod on pc if console gets mods I’ll be the happiest ronsoler

[fathom scarab]

I've never played with mods, I've just started lol
But I might check it out

[honest fern]

Whats that?

[rustic jackal]

some guy told me you can get like 60 suspects on one map and lmgs

[fathom scarab]

Bruh fuck that
I'm not John Wick

[rustic jackal]

you’ll feel like him on neon tomb 😏

[rustic jackal]

I think it makes the AI smarter but I’m sure seeing as I’m a ronsoler

[fathom scarab]

It's kinda terrifying seeing some of the maps I get carried through in MP
I have no idea how I'm gonna do Elephant on my own

[rustic jackal]

play it on hard and the stakes are increased drastically 😈

[honest fern]

Theres only a few suspects in elephant, just go fast before they kill hostages

[rustic jackal]

10 minutes timer as well on standard

[honest fern]

U can also get a lucky spawn and get some of the suspects very close to entrance

[fathom scarab]

Yeah I got the achievement for defusing both in under 2 mins on mp
Managed to take out 3 shooters, two of them I was alone straight up Wicking it when a guy busted through a door as I was pushing and blasted a hole in my chest

[rustic jackal]

I always rush to the library and clear top down

[rustic jackal]

that sounds terrifying 😭

[fathom scarab]

See the little bit to the right from the entrance in elephant ? I come through the door, shoot a suspect, whip left there's another suspect at the end of the hall and as I move up to report that one, I hear the door open on my right and I die

[rustic jackal]

HE OPENED THE DOUBLE DOOR AND BLASTED YOU?

[fathom scarab]

Yeah

[rustic jackal]

clearing that map solo increases my heart rate 😭

they move so much

[fathom scarab]

I was shitting myself cause I got separated
I thought I'd caught up but they were behind me

[honest fern]

Currently trying to S rank relapse, ive cleared it 5+ times but only ever got A+ cuz they either killed themselves or got killed by their own friends

[fathom scarab]

Can't incite murder, broke RoE

[rustic jackal]

the tattoo you get makes it worth

[honest fern]

Idk why they would think of killing themselves when they have 5 beanbags pointed at them🥲

[fathom scarab]

Should have been aware of the terrible impact of beans on the mental health of the suspects, -500 points

[twin bramble]

Finally did rust belt on hard onto sins of the father I bet that’ll be so much easier

[rustic jackal]

kaboom :))

[honest fern]

Oh boy...

[modest yacht]

Guys i cant beat greased palms tips?

[honest fern]

Go past the store, go to the door on the left thats heading out, dont go straight, thats a death sentence usually

[crude rune]

it’s time for the valley of the dolls

[rustic jackal]

I hear you in game all the time

[stone bay]

I'm back I think it has somthing to do with like what your game to put down or somthing along those lines think of as a chainsaw track with teeth
Bad track bad cut

[crude rune]

what

[paper loom]

Anyone need help with S tiers?

[valid olive]

Where can I report a bug?

[errant flower]

#1050535723087958156

[valid olive]

thx

[vital seal]

will console get mod support or nah?

[prime spear]

Ahem.

Look at the stickers.

[lament jay]

anyone facing a bug where you cant open doors, arrest suspects or retrieve any evidence constantly? it just keeps happening over and over to me

[rustic jackal]

Lee’s voice actor is in RoN

[crude rune]

Oh god. I’m gonna get Vietnam flashbacks.

[pseudo seal]

Anyone got any tips for s ranking greased palms with SWAT AI?

[deft star]

if void make a 2nd game should they make more swat games but based in different countries?

[sturdy chasm]

why is all the good customization locked behind supporter edition. they should just make it a dlc to get it and do something else for the supporter edition buyers

[covert pulsar]

blast everything that moves

[covert pulsar]

i would pay a lot for a gign game

[stone bay]

i was gonna s rank 23 mb but my dumbass ai teamates mightve accidentally killed one of the suspects

[honest fern]

@pseudo seal

Also, bring flash

[pseudo seal]

sucks cs is broken

[honest fern]

Cs?

[pseudo seal]

gas

[honest fern]

Oh is it? Broken how?

[pseudo seal]

doesn't effect enemies

[honest fern]

Since recent patch?

[frank edge]

Since when did enemies sponge every buckshot round 😂

[rocky plover]

it's radius got reduced from like 8m to 4.5m and it deals 50stun/sec instead of 200stun/sec

gas duration was also reduced

and that's the normal gas grenade, the gas launcher is even worse

[honest fern]

Thats... Horrible

[rocky plover]

yea, hope it's not permanent and it gets fixed

[karmic birch]

the ai are supposed to be better on the patch before update right? if so i'd hate to see what got worse because i told them to search for 10 minutes nearly and walked around the college map and they were standing still next to the enemy who just kicked in a door also an ai got shot at and didnt even shoot back his teammate had to

[sand hull]

i’m gon blow new jersey up

wait wrong serve

[junior walrus]

Can you not get the lunchers on console?

[pine drum]

The fucking LTL pistol sucks ass

You need 4 shots to hit... In a 7 round pistol...

[prime spear]

You play on PC or console?

[pine drum]

Pc

Fuck console.

[prime spear]

Install mods.

[prime spear]

Did a controller beat you up. 💔🪫🥀

[pine drum]

Sorry, I expect proper balancing from the devs them selves. Literally just add a SINGLE round to the mag, and it works better

[onyx quail]

This include both solo and coop? Was wondering why it wasn't very effective

[pine drum]

Also, trying to do LTL sucks in general which yk... Tracks with IRL

[pine drum]

No, just that this is defiantly a PC game first, and a console game as an after thought

[onyx quail]

It's pretty enjoyable on console. They mapped controller pretty well and the haptics are neat

[pine drum]

And honestly, make fun of me if you want, selling out to major corporations is kinda cringe...

But hey, still kinda enjoyable as long as you don't do EXCLUSIVELY LTL

[vale mulch]

Yeah, afterthought with plenty of thought.

[onyx quail]

Crossplay is sweet too. Can finally join my friends. Sadly console players can't get the supporter edition but we can look at the items in menu

[vale mulch]

If there were no mods then the sellout thing might matter but I don’t think so given mods exist and are needed in many games.

[sturdy lantern]

Anyone got any advice for Valley of the Dolls S tier?

I’ve been making decent progress but keep getting stuck on the pool and outside area.

[trail radish]

What did the console players do to you man

[pine drum]

Not console players mab.

[jagged carbon]

I saw what they did. When he was a child he and his family went to a rich PC restaurant. When he and his family left the restaurant, his parents got held at gun point by a N64. The console demand their money and right after they gave their money to the console, the N64 shot and killed his parents leaving him all alone.

[prime spear]

Fire writing..

[trail radish]

Oh no

[frozen ivy]

Is there lower health in multiplayer?

[trail radish]

No, only if you put it to hard mode does your health lower

[frozen ivy]

I do fine in single player even telling the AI to hold at the start but seems like I get instantly smoked shot 3 times in multi

Like I'm trying to do the one on the boat rn in multi with my friend and I get melted instantly. I've done it solo in sp just fine.

also that arabic guy runs faster than usain bolt like holy shit

[smoky flax]

What grip reduces vertical recoil the most

[radiant fulcrum]

Genuine question, why have all my officers become stressed after I S ranked elephant

[marble flume]

Its specific to Elephant that your officers lose a ton of morale, regardless of how you handle the scenario.

Why this doesn't happen on considerably-worse-maps like Neon Tomb? Beats me lmao

[radiant fulcrum]

Ok cool cool thank you for that, I was genuinely confused

[vocal wolf]

What is the best AR ingame

[marble flume]

Honestly I don't even know why this is a thing. Maps like Neon Tomb are considerably more fucked up than Elephant is, with bomb vests on civilians and terrorists and a considerably higher body count inside the building

[radiant fulcrum]

The one you like the most (ddm4)

[marble flume]

None of them lmao, use a 7.62x51mm rifle or a shotgun

[trail radish]

slr47 or any of the 308 ones for pure damage, best low recoil 5.56 rifle is either the mk1 or g36c

[radiant fulcrum]

Shit even valley of dolls should take a massive hit to moral imo

[dusty apex]

I want the vector in this game

[radiant fulcrum]

I want the aug not the fuckass f90

[trail radish]

If you're on pc there probably is a vector mod

[smoky flax]

G3A3/GA51

[mental jacinth]

Its the sa-58, anyone that tells you otherwise is lying

[radiant fulcrum]

Lvar is goated argue with a wall

[eager eagle]

I’m on sins of the father yall got any tips?

[radiant fulcrum]

Rotary flash launcher

[twin bramble]

It’s the only level in the game where regardless the mental is affected

[marble flume]

based and redpilled

[radiant fulcrum]

Hypothetically I could run the first mission and help boost the mental of my officer? The other three already in therapy

[twin bramble]

Ya just run 4U non lethal to improve it

[marble flume]

not hypothetically, you can absolutely do this

Ends of the Earth is arguably the easiest and fastest mission to spam

[dusty apex]

What’s another tactical that you yall want, 100% want a k9

[radiant fulcrum]

Marksman max, I adore you, thank you goat

[marble flume]

This is also a decent strategy for unlocking officer perks, which is mandatory for S ranks and probably helpful on Hard runs, although I just fucking ignore my AI completely on Hard and treat them as pawns

[trail radish]

drone

[marble flume]

Not even sure why the breaching shotgun exists at all to be honest

[radiant fulcrum]

Yeah prolly gonna rank up my armorer and nutritionist and get my other officers mental up

[marble flume]

for a more brute-force approach those are great perks to have

[radiant fulcrum]

Ngl it’s helped me a ton with tanking enemy morale

[marble flume]

C2 does it better and also stuns rofl

Also I generally prefer the battering ram over the shotgun, although I know the shotgun does a tad more damage to morale

[radiant fulcrum]

I unfortunately have the spatial awareness of an elderly man at times so anything to help boost my chances of survival

[radiant fulcrum]

C2 ruined one s rank for me and I never used it again 💀

[steep ridge]

people who use the slr47 are probably linux users
stop tryna be different, your akm-aks74u hybrid sucks

actually it’d be more ak15-aks74u hybrid

[fallen bobcat]

I have fun with it sometimes

There's a bunch of guns in game so I like playing with something like mp7 or mp9 or other non popular guns just for fun sometimes

[vast nacelle]

Whats the best smg

[steep ridge]

non popular guns
lists mp7 and mp9
vro?

[steep ridge]

mp7

actually its p90

[fallen bobcat]

Considering everyone prefers to use rifles. Especially on hard diff smgs are not that usual thing to run with

But fuck p320. Absolute garbage

[steep ridge]

thats not even an smg its a pistol
on a brace

dunno why its listed as an smg

[cloud plover]

Which mp5 is the best ?

[fallen bobcat]

Cuz it's in the smg section?

[steep ridge]

im not gunna lie theyre all the same

[fathom scarab]

So far I haven't noticed a major difference between the rifles

[trail radish]

mp5 10mm

[lavish trellis]

Wish the smgs were better. Maybe have a long barrel attachment. I tried the smgs but went back to Rifles.

[fallen bobcat]

Well there's diff between hk416 and mk17 for sure

But yes they're kinda same thing. Only difference is recoil for same caliber

[zenith shoal]

MK17 my goat

I run the MK17 and MK-V in multiplayer with friends

[fallen bobcat]

Big shell specialist

[zenith shoal]

I saw "hand cannon" I was hooked

[fathom scarab]

The fuck is the hk416

I don't have that

[fallen bobcat]

That thing called ga416 in game

[fathom scarab]

What's a rifle with really low recoil ?

Oh the ga416 is perfect, thanks

[fallen bobcat]

Just any 5.56? They all have low recoil

[zenith shoal]

I like the G36C

[silver palm]

SR-16

[marble flume]

C2 shouldn't actually kill anyone ever, from what I've heard

I know in SWAT 4 C2 would absolutely vaporize whatever poor bastard was directly behind that door

[fathom scarab]

Oh wow the SR 16 is insane
Surely it must do really low damage

[silver palm]

Ngl I lied

I like using the SR-16 but I really wish I had a hk416

[crude prism]

?

[silver palm]

😩

[crude prism]

is that a "I just busted" face or an "I long for the GA416" face

[silver palm]

Both

[silver palm]

I might use it more than I ever did

Full black option?

[last oxide]

is pc still stung?

[fallen bobcat]

Well I lost s rank on twisted nerve cuz c2 incaped civ. Didn't kill him but he was just chilling on the ground after I cuffed him so I think it can ruin S rank

[hollow citrus]

would you rather have ron easier or harder

[fallen bobcat]

Hard diff is hard enough

[hollow citrus]

but what about suspects taking cover in a way that they expose half of their body

[idle mauve]

would anyone like to help me with sleeper agent

please

[hollow citrus]

or them snitching on themselves with voice queues

[fallen bobcat]

Well as I said hard is hard enough. Those fuckers do some John Wick sniping and tanking bullets shit

[hollow citrus]

i mean they could be better, being harder in TTK isnt actually hard is it.

[cloud plover]

Hard is like insane imo 😭

[fallen bobcat]

It's easy to do even in solo. It counts not the kills but reports

[hollow citrus]

its just test of your reaction

[rocky plover]

yes

[onyx quail]

Ah brutal. Thanks for confirming

[hollow citrus]

not pointing any fingers but cover system been in place for 3 years and sthey still peek their head when they supposed to be behind cover

[rocky plover]

you're welcome. plus it's even worse in hard mode aswell, as suspects take longer to get stunned by gas and don't stay stunned for long either

[fallen bobcat]

Well I'm not gonna play that shit if they add it. Like hard reaction,hp and aim with wh and taking covers

[cloud plover]

I had to lower the look curve bc it was to slow for me, it felt heavy on my joystick

[hollow citrus]

you can choose it to make easier, but making instances where you have free kill because mechanic is bad is not actually hard or easier its just bad.

cover supposed to give longer fights in game not a free kill but it just makes it so you aim at enemy pumpkin when he thinks he should be safe behind cover

just like sound queues whats the pont of them if the entire game is about clearing corners, why would you give location of a thing you should guess where it is.

unless you are full stealth mode ofcourse and they dont know you are here but that doesnt work like that

[fallen bobcat]

I understand your position but bruh no one completes game with that type of difficulty

[hollow citrus]

why is cover so difficult? just have one guy cover the angle from which enemy is taking cover from and have other guy throw a flash in this place

[fallen bobcat]

I'm currently on the hard s run and it's just impossible and takes a lot of time

[hollow citrus]

the game is about cqb tactics

[lavish trellis]

Other cqb games I bring smg but rifles in this game seem better for most maps.

[toxic harness]

Plus a perfect thing to flash people left and right

[fallen bobcat]

Well cuz AI is fucking stupid rn? I guess if there's 4 dudes who is willing to play with you it might be kinda fun

[zenith shoal]

The game is already a guaranteed death if you get caught out in the open because you didn't wedge a door behind you I don't want a faster TTK

[lavish trellis]

I like playing with random players that don't talk but can't get s rank.

[hollow citrus]

you cant make swat AI perfect but its good enough for the job, you can tell them to move to certain positing and do flash yourself

[fallen bobcat]

Rn swat AI is having fun with dying a 1000 and 1 stupid way

[toxic harness]

But before Ronsole release, they were the best men you acquired

[hollow citrus]

smg's in this game are good only for unarmored suspects or shooting at unarmored parts of the body with JHP ammo, their key advantage is good damage to unarmored, easy recol and high fire rate.

[zenith shoal]

Swat AI doesn't know how to throw a flash up a staircase rn

[fallen bobcat]

Yeah they wee better than they're now. Rn they just watch how suspect runs into me and don't do shit about that

[zenith shoal]

I got flashed by my own bots

[fallen bobcat]

Got shot from launcher and my game crushed

[lavish trellis]

I only get flashed by my girlfriend.

[hollow citrus]

it wont know it before they make a command location for that said staircase because entire system is based on the locations but swat AI isnt my main concern, you can only do so much to the SWAT AI, compared to suspect AI

[onyx quail]

Glad the suspect ai is solid. At least with my limited gametime. Surprised they don't take more hostages though

[hollow citrus]

i mean they sntich on themselves by screaming, i would call that smart

[fallen bobcat]

They do on hard. Like every fucking mission if they're stressed enough (if they hear a single gunshot)

[zenith shoal]

My main gripe with suspect AI is they get stuck in squeeze and crawl spots

[dry cosmos]

the problem is that the suspects are only hard because their aim is good and their reaction is insane at times, and they have lots of hp, but their behavior is really bad, i would rather have them with normal aim and normal reaction but not dumb behavior, right now its like "Oh this suspect can oneshot you from 200km but right now he is taking cover and you can pop his head for free", feels dumb

[hollow citrus]

i also wouldnt call smart having your head out of the cover constantly when you dont intend to shoot,

[fallen bobcat]

I think it's made to make game easier for casual players. Not all players want to sweat and learn how to play for couple hundred hours

[onyx quail]

Maybe my game was bugged. They didn't always snitch. The rough part with the ai is when they dead on sprint from one side of the map to another and then we have to briskly walk to catch back up for a solid los

[hollow citrus]

if that was intent then they would make the hard mode not do that, but they havent changed that cover mechanic in 3 years

[hollow citrus]

and about screaming same thing they still scream on hard mode

[zenith shoal]

I would probably quit the game if I had to spend 30 minutes hunting down the last guy in Twisted Nerve because he refuses to scream

[hollow citrus]

try screaming for them to surrender a few times they often respond even when they havent even interacted with you, they also talk whenever they notice your presence, be it your flashlight or your footsteps they kindly let you know they expect you

[fathom scarab]

Welp, had to quit out of Twisted Nerve on commander cause all I had left was Bring order to chaos and I went around the entire map looking for suspects

[dry cosmos]

thats also a problem that the game kinda makes you focus on completing shit rather than enjoying the process, if i cant find the last guy for too long i just start a new mission cuz i dont care about completing anything

[fallen bobcat]

I spent like 5 hours on twisted nerve searching for evidence that clipped thru the ground soo searching for suspect or civ is not that bad

[onyx quail]

Makes sense! Neon tomb was a mess of sounds where they'd run from the spa away from sightlines to the entrance. Yelling was the only way to find the last guy, but during the initial couple engagements they were silent

[fathom scarab]

It's kinda annoying that they don't let you just pick the missions even though you can play any of them in multiplayer

[fallen bobcat]

Try quick play or download simple menu mod

[dry cosmos]

ah you mean like you have to unlock them in commander fisrt so they show up in quick play, yeah if it works like this its dumb

[fathom scarab]

I don't think I can play more tonight though, this game solo stresses me tf out

[hollow citrus]

which is pointless game loop because they LITERALLY added aftermath team to the game yet they still dont take civs by themselves, its either should be that supect checkmark wont be avaliable unless everyone is secured+also make everyone possible suspect and not have skins just for suspects and just for civs. or just make that if civ is innocent let the non combat team take care of them

[zenith shoal]

Solo is a bit annoying with the ai at times

[fathom scarab]

But it feels really nice once you get into a nice flow
I cleared both house super smoothly until I tried to do like a smart split the team AI maneuver and it became a massive shitshow firefight

[zenith shoal]

I've started running 2 riot shields because my officers run at the enemies with no cover

[dry cosmos]

i instantly switched to multiplyaer the moment i completed last main mission with swat ai, truly a torturE

[onyx quail]

Part of me wants to nonlethal everything but the other part of me wants to use a suppressed p90 at all times

[hollow citrus]

playing solo isnt very autehtnical in this game because it will NEVER give you actual tacatical CQB experience, AI is too dull to do complicated CQB tactics

[fathom scarab]

I kinda like it with the AI
In pub multiplayer a lot of the time it's super hectic and you don't get time to really plan out moves I feel, cause people tend to move really fast so if you're not gone first then you're kinda stuck following

[dry cosmos]

the game doesnt really force to think or play tactically still even on hard mode

[hollow citrus]

thats people's choice choosing to play dumb though, that means you havent had a group playing tacitcally, it also means that games encourages people playing dumb if they can still finish missions like that

[dry cosmos]

and if it doesnt force it, i can roleplay as im TactIcAl all i want but eventually i'll just start pushing cuz there is no difference

[fathom scarab]

Big reach there

I just mean that the game moves fast and you don't really get to be the one that plans it out a lot, at least in my case

[hollow citrus]

if the game requires only aim there is no need for planning

[zenith shoal]

game is really easy just slap 6 mags of JHP on the MK17 and go crazy

[fallen bobcat]

I understand your position but still it's just a game at the end of the day and not everyone wants to go full fucking tactical and shit

[fathom scarab]

Alright man, I'm not the one to post your manifesto about how the game is bad and cringe at

[fallen bobcat]

And if the game was how you want it to be(hard as fuck and shit) there won't be so much players cuz hard game = less players

[dry cosmos]

i played in such groups many times, you have to search for them thats true tho, you can try some servers in unit-promo channel not sure if you'll like it tho but sounds like your thing

[hollow citrus]

thats why they added difficulties though, the game is a tactical shooter but if you want to play it relaxed theres easier difficulty for that

the hard difficulty literally says "it is for hardened veteran players and its gonna test my CQB knowledge" but it doesnt test shit

[zenith shoal]

Are pugs matchmade or lobby based

[onyx quail]

Was gonna say that not everyone has a full team to play tactically with. Usually only playing with 2-3 or just ai, and they are both pretty unique in terms of gameplay.

[hollow citrus]

if you want to play tactically just find a group/server or go LFG and mention that you want to go full tactical, people did like such since the game were launched

[fallen bobcat]

It does test your sanity. Going greased palms 6th time trying to S-rank that shit is just unbearable

[crude prism]

Just sounds like you're good at CQB

It's not some magic puzzle.

You pie, peek, and outgun your opponents.

(tools optional)

[onyx quail]

Oh definitely, I'm just vibing with the game right now as a console pleb and having a blast

[hollow citrus]

so what is the issue you having?

what is the reason you fail

[lavish trellis]

Do you think there should have a leveling system to keep people playing the game? I finish a mission with other players getting a D or A ranking and then nothing happens. Nothing achieved.

[crude prism]

Imo they could've introduced something with 1.0

I think it's too late to implement

[dry cosmos]

i believe it can force you to play tactical while not being super hard, also yeah difficulty levels are made for that, you can play doom eternal like a casual boomer shooter for chill or you can play it like a total sweat on nightmare bunnyhopping and switching guns

[fathom scarab]

They should add a battlepass with a Jigsaw skin

[hollow citrus]

thats not cqb tactics though thats just good aim, cqb tactics involve tools and poistioning. but currently all i need is to just shoot stuff i wont get punished enough for lacking in positioning with my group, i wont even say anything about covering your six, you almost never get flanked from the back.

[onyx quail]

I was surprised to see the teammate perks from commander mode not implemented in multiplayer.

[dry cosmos]

sounds like a cheap way to keep you grinding without adding actual content

[fallen bobcat]

Mfs shooting me thru the wall or from other end of the map thru all shit between us or civis being dumb going between me and suspect who is shooting at me. Swat AI catching all bullets they can catch and doing nothing about it. So the main reason is absolute dumbfucks in my team(AI)

So the main reason I fail is AI either civ or swat

[uncut widget]

Does pepper gun from my AI officer damage my health? Or it just turns my screen into red?

[hollow citrus]

but why wont you play in a group then and stop bothering yourself with dumb swat AI, thats something that is avoidable.

[dry cosmos]

i mean yeah hard diff can be hard if you do non lethal cuz non lethal is just so shit, tho i think with all the bugs like suspects getting out of stun randomly its not a good idea to play non lethal now, fuck achievements they add them every update anyway

i think there is no achievement to complete postal on hard on S rank tho

[hollow citrus]

bro its not that hard

#🔎looking-for-players just type looking for 4 full tactical no bs, or look for servers there is sooooo many that focus on milsim

but reason why there is so many people just not giving a damn and playing like its CoD is exactly because the tactical CQB is just a roleplay, not a necessity

[crude prism]

It does. But only 0.2/sec while you're standing in it, same as gas

You'd have to stand in it for 800 seconds to die.

[fallen bobcat]

There's not. But I just want to do this cuz I had S ranks before update on every mission so I have to get them now too

[dry cosmos]

are you gonna do it next update as well, sounds like slavery

[uncut widget]

Do I recover my health after outing of gas?

[crude prism]

No

[dry cosmos]

smoking is bad, the damage is permanent.....

[fallen bobcat]

If there will be new mission I will

[fathom scarab]

You walk into the armory to see your sergeant trying to die by bathing in pepper spray

[dry cosmos]

but your S rank on postal is gonna reset tho

[fallen bobcat]

No. I have S ranks on Standart diff. Now have to get hard S

[crude prism]

Macrodosing CS Gas until it doesn't affect me anymore

[hollow citrus]

non lethal can be hard if you choose it to be, take flash GL and deny all the challenge to yourself

[fathom scarab]

Inhaling the CS gas like Bane

[hollow citrus]

because someone thought that 40mm explosion to the chest isnt a lethal wound

[crude prism]

they need to re-implement 40mm impacts being instantly lethal, no fucking around

[fallen bobcat]

Yeah launcher giving ff when you shoot in room with no officers near door

[dry cosmos]

i feel like they still couldnt fix the bug when the launcher is killing you when you shoot it so just decided that it will do no damage xd

[dry cosmos]

the semi auto launcher for primary is OP

ah gotcha

[fallen bobcat]

Getting friendly fire when there's no allies nearby is op too

[lavish trellis]

Man i no got that. They should just release to everyone.

[zenith shoal]

Yeah they should change it so 7x64mm JHP blows a massive hole on the exit wound

[hollow citrus]

that feeling when you have a GL in the same category as very useful battering ram

[dry cosmos]

well just dont bring officers near it i guess haha, did you try giving them anti falsh goggles? i remember having the same thing when my officers didnt have gasmask and were getting FF from their own pepperballs on the ground xd

[hollow citrus]

that feeling when you can lockpick evrey door and have a battering ram

[dry cosmos]

youre on console?

[lavish trellis]

Yes

[dry cosmos]

that feeling when you have both multitool and lockpick gun and cant decide what to use

[hollow citrus]

wait did they restrict console players from primary GL? @dry cosmos

[fallen bobcat]

Yep had all that shit. So they didn't even see the flash cuz they were behind cover and in the other room but still got ff

[fathom scarab]

Beanbag to the head : instant death
40mm flashbang directly in your solar plexus : Mild headache and nausea

[dry cosmos]

just for that fact im already sry

[dry cosmos]

they had to preorder i think

[dry cosmos]

thx you just reminded me why i should never ever comeback to SWAT AI xd

[hollow citrus]

when you have pepper spray that is already hard enough to use but suspects also shoot you back

[hollow citrus]

watch them make DLC weapons next patch

DLC titanium armor when

[dry cosmos]

unlock ak-102 and ak-103 with small adjustments and make it look like new guns we have to pay for

[fathom scarab]

Is there like a chillout mod for this game ? Not like difficulty but just vibes lmfao. I'm really stoned and I can't handle it but I wanna keep playing

[dry cosmos]

nightclub chillstep song replace?

[valid raven]

What is the point of the silencer even

[fathom scarab]

There's no music though

[fathom scarab]

Aura and flow

[verbal swan]

petition to have a separate loadout organizer for the AI teammates, and have the organizer movable so i can arrange them for each team so example (alpha non lethal, alpha night vision, etc)

[dry cosmos]

it makes suspects gain stress a little slower but you probably wont notice it

[lavish trellis]

The guns are too loud through my speakers. So I always put on silencers.

[fathom scarab]

That would actually be so sick

[valid raven]

Stress is like a panic mechanic, right

[fathom scarab]

If you could have pair loadouts like for team blue and team red

[hollow citrus]

yea bro the game has difficulty switch and there is casual difficulty it should be very easy

[valid raven]

Like they may panic and shoor at you

[dry cosmos]

its a number that if high enough they raise their gun in preaim position

[valid raven]

stress and morale are separate mechanics, right?

[hollow citrus]

for silencing

[verbal swan]

I KNOOOOOOWWWWW BROOOO PLSS ADD ITTT

[crude prism]

yes

[fathom scarab]

Nah the difficulty's not stressing me out it's just roaming around crackhouses in total silence w blood & shit is stressing me out

[dry cosmos]

stress is what i get higher reading devlogs, morale is what i get lower reading devlogs

[hollow citrus]

@dry cosmos neon club cyberpunk edgerunners OST when?

[valid raven]

do you like that those numbers are hidden from the player?

[fathom scarab]

Idek what the mod would look like tbh lol

[dry cosmos]

yeah theyre hidden
i wish they were open

[valid raven]

I think it increases the tention that you don’t know

[crude prism]

I mean that info should be hidden.

Stuff like generic gun info shouldn't (looking at you loadout screen)

[valid raven]

does the silencer have any disadvantage?

[crude prism]

Length?

[fathom scarab]

The gun mods should just show you the numbers tbh

[valid raven]

That’s literally never been an issue for me

[dry cosmos]

i looked at the numbers in config files and tested how they work

[fathom scarab]

I have no idea which addon adds how much to anything so I'm kinda flying blind

[crude prism]

that's my line

[dry cosmos]

the fact that you could have an sfmb brake that is better than silencer

[valid raven]

like I’ve legitimately not had the situation where I keep bumping into walls and put my gun down because I can’t raise it properly

[marble flume]

Rock two Intimidators and two Negotiators and Palms is an easy S-rank

[valid raven]

Does anyone actually use the planning feature?

[dry cosmos]

it adds a little but not much, doesnt matter really

[hollow citrus]

stress gets higher more agressive actions you make in the missions

morale gets higher more enemies shoot at you and gets less more you kill them or flashbang them and etc

so you can either have very agressive accurate enemies or very agressive not so accurate enemies

[valid raven]

I might as well, just put it on by default

[crude prism]

No, but that's moreso I had so much time in the game already.

I'm sure a new team could use it

[marble flume]

The issue usually isn't running into walls with your firearm, but instead enemies running into YOU and preventing you from shooting them at all while they light your ass with THEIR gun anyway

[valid raven]

Never had that happen

Maybe it’s just because I subconsciously aware of my gun

[marble flume]

I've had it happen at least half a dozen times in the last two days lmao

[valid raven]

I don’t really hug walls or anything

[dry cosmos]

enemy can hug you without your consent

[valid raven]

I’m not saying that I just run out like I still stand behind them for cover

[warm garden]

I'm doing the Ironman mission, and an agent "quit", meaning he abandoned but didn't die. Does that count as me losing an agent?

[hollow citrus]

they used to hug doors without their consent too

[warm garden]

[valid raven]

I remember playing with somebody that just started running around shooting doors with a breaching charge and shooting everyone in sight without a care of who they were

Like they wouldn’t even give people a chance to surrender they were just shoot everyone in sight

when I asked them to stop and they mocked me

[dry cosmos]

i dont remember playing with you

[valid raven]

So i team killed them

[dry cosmos]

lol

[hollow citrus]

also isnt it nice that TOC has insiders in the suspect's group to let you know ahead that suspects took hostage during the missions @dry cosmos

[dry cosmos]

ahahhaha yeah

[valid raven]

Civs may have reported it

[warm garden]

?

[fallen bobcat]

Yep. Especially on hard when suspects don't give a fuck about that

[valid raven]

Also, what is it with people taking human shields and then leaning their head out and making themselves an easy target

[hollow citrus]

hello officer im currently under the barrels of an armed suspect so i let you know im in danger

[dry cosmos]

no, the moment suspect takes hostage mid mission no matter where, TOC instantly says it even if nobody sees

[valid raven]

What’s funny about negotiators is they don’t actually want to give the suspects anything they just stall them to give police time to plan out what they are going to do

also most criminals are incredibly stupid

[hollow citrus]

especially ex veterans

they shoot you once to make sure they have good zeroing on you though

[dry cosmos]

and professional guards

[hollow citrus]

also ex CIA

schizophernia should actually give +100 iq buff imo

also @dry cosmos do you know what concealed caryy means, cuz i never seen that one

i thought criminals do that often

[valid raven]

I have herd stories that some criminals don’t understand caliber and when the gun jams they just assume its bad ammo and get rid of it

[spice reef]

Does any1 have ready or not on a PlayStation account that they can slide me like a alt or smth so I can play

[valid raven]

And they have found the mag mixed with a ton of different calibers

I am not talking about how some soldiers would use mixed loads in shootguns

[hollow citrus]

maybe some gas station punks yeah but thats why theres different type of maps in game

[dry cosmos]

so poor casual players would have to actually arrest everyone no we cant have it

[valid raven]

That feels like a bunch of low-level criminals who robbed that place on an impulse

[dry cosmos]

honestly to me in ron suspects from gas station and from brisa cove feel the same

[dire horizon]

Yeah it counts as losing one

[hollow citrus]

instead we should add difficulty by collecting guns all around the map like if its a treasure hunt

[valid raven]

has anyone noticed that those security lock bag things have a tiny padlock on them

[hollow citrus]

but we cant use those guns because they are icky and not very democratic

[dry cosmos]

someone probably collected all the flags in assassins creed 1

[spark haven]

Finally got the meldonin achievement after like 4 hours total

[valid raven]

Like on the zipper

those tiny padlocks are really easy to pick

[dry cosmos]

i havent secured a gun in this game for 2 years so no

[valid raven]

Do you know why they secure them right? They don’t want someone to run in and grab it.

[dry cosmos]

yeah wish it actually happened in the game

literally nothing changes whether i collect them or not

[hollow citrus]

its almost like for that not every single suspect should have a gun

[valid raven]

Although they really should unload the mag clear the chamber and store the ammo and gun in separate bags

[dire horizon]

My brother grabbed all the collectables in assassin's creed 1&2

[dry cosmos]

did he become happy

[valid raven]

thats the proper way to clear the gun

Like somebody could rip open the bag and take the gun out

Be better if they take the bag with them and dump it outside somewhere

Irl swat teams will go in and out all the time

[dry cosmos]

sounds fun

[dire horizon]

He never did it again for a game so I'd say no

[dry cosmos]

hahaha

[valid raven]

Well, they usually have a dedicated member picking up all the secured weapons and taking them back to the rally point

[dry cosmos]

ron devs promised that feature it just doesnt work

[valid wave]

Can you imagine the complaints from gamers if you had to run back to spawn with every single perp weapon you secure?

[valid raven]

They do the same thing with anyone they restrain

[hollow citrus]

ron devs also added cover system to promote longer engagments

[valid raven]

Then a detective interviews them to figure out
who is actually a suspect

If they aren’t they just let them go

[dire horizon]

That's what the clean up detail is for, they come in after you bring order to chaos

[dry cosmos]

the longest engagements actually happen because you cant see shit on the map because of lighting and garbage and little holes on distance

[valid raven]

Yes, but a suspect could still rip open the bag

Although the bags are probably made of Kevlar or something so you can’t really stab it open easily

[hollow citrus]

so true lol

[dry cosmos]

not if you secure all the exists properly and have more swat than suspects

[valid raven]

Yes but there is normally more suspicious then swat

[vagrant rover]

Oh my god, imagine having to do that, but limited to how many evidence packages you can carry lmao I can see it now

" What do you got currently? "
" Two rifles, one shotgun and a pistol "
" Damn. Alright, I'll be back for those other two rifles. "

[dry cosmos]

wtf

[valid raven]

Normally more suspects than SWAT

[dire horizon]

If someone could open the tiny dimensional pockets that judge shoves whole rifles and shotguns into that would be funny

[valid raven]

well, it depends

[dry cosmos]

so swat are gonna raid 10 suspects who have AKM's with 5 people
and just all die

[hollow citrus]

@dry cosmos what was last time AI flanked you from the back

[valid raven]

Depends on how many there are

[dry cosmos]

literally today cuz im playing on AI mod, idk about vanilla

[hollow citrus]

wrong, 18 suspects with body armour, HE grenadesand AKM's

[hollow citrus]

on vanilla i dont remember last time

[valid raven]

Better tatics can beat a superior force

[dry cosmos]

idk but ron scenarios are impossible to clear with 5 swat

[hollow citrus]

i dont think i ever saw swat team hopin that they just gonna outskill them

[valid raven]

SWAT speds most of there down time practiceing

[hollow citrus]

like nah bro im to tuff for this shiii im gonna 1v9

[dry cosmos]

meeeeeeeh sounds like bs, how are you gonna raid a house with 10 akm's in your face with 5 swat, maybe if you have that much better equipment, drones bombs etc, gas

[valid raven]

some countries just unload a machine gun into the building

[hollow citrus]

i mean yea but we talk about swat

[valid raven]

But those are the countries that value ending the situation as quickly as possible, not necessarily saving lives

[valid raven]

Some countries POLICE do that

[dry cosmos]

we need machine gun in ron

[hollow citrus]

any country will secure a perimiter with overwhelming force though

[valid raven]

There was that one situation I heard about where they tried to use sleeping gas in a hostage situation

[cedar mulch]

No, suspect in the rust belt is just an ordinary blood volume.

[ivory apex]

Judge is also the perfect lawman, he was given the leader role of swat and also this swat team is basically a navy seals team with the weaponry we have

[valid raven]

And killed civilians

[hollow citrus]

we have machine guns in RoN you stooopid, just not for us

[valid raven]

you know why sleeping gas isn’t really used right

[hollow citrus]

because sleep is for the weak

[valid raven]

Because everys dosage that would kill them is different

[ivory apex]

Potentially kills people

[valid raven]

It has to do what you can’t predict everyone’s lethal dosage

[dry cosmos]

no way they would clear a hospital map with 5 swat

[ivory apex]

Same thing with insulin

[valid raven]

That’s why a lot of medicines are calculated based on the individual’s weight

Too little and it does nothing too much and it can kill you

[marble flume]

Pretty sure it works the exact same on Hard too, although a few maps have suspects stressed already so Intimidator does nothing there

[hollow citrus]

do people legit think that irl swat would clear hospital solo or what

[valid raven]

It’s hard to design some sort of less lethal weapon like that with medicines that require careful calculations to not hurt people and remain effective

[dry cosmos]

yeah they watched cqb guides on youtube from navy seals

[hollow citrus]

no matter how skilled judge is all suspects need to do is to stack long bruh and rush

[valid raven]

Its CQC

[marble flume]

So there WAS also a hospital map in SWAT 4, but the fact that you have to clear FIVE floors on the fucking hospital map is pretty insane

[valid raven]

CQB is hand to hand

[toxic harness]

At least RoN has 3 levels

[dry cosmos]

cock quick clean

[valid raven]

no, close quarters combat

[dry cosmos]

cock quick cleaner

[valid raven]

CQB is close quarters battle

[dry cosmos]

i would like to get in close quarters with you

[valid raven]

I am taken

[dry cosmos]

god bless your boyfriend whoever this is

[hollow citrus]

my bad battle and combat is very different

[valid raven]

How did you know it was a guy

Genuinely

[dry cosmos]

just re-read what you were writing here it all makes sense i think

[hollow citrus]

хахахахахах

[valid raven]

I don’t remember ever mentioning I wasn’t straight here

[dry cosmos]

i do, just not straight forward

[gray jetty]

Is ready or not still doing the whole carcosa thing. I got the game hoping it would be like true detective but the only videos on it were from like 6 years ago

[ivory apex]

Fede are on scene also FISA and TOC, we’re being watched very closely it’s almost like it’s a puppet (judge) is being experimented on and if we do die in the mission you always hear “pull out entry team, FEDS taking over” meaning they do have the people on scene. And also the typical swat teams don’t carry 7.65 rounds and some heavy duty weapons, there’s a reason why it’s only us because we’re like a super cop, judge did mention working for FISA back in the day so he’s pretty legit unlike our 4 members who are just officers

[hollow citrus]

i see it plain as day

[dire horizon]

Gaydar go brrrt

[valid raven]

I mean i don’t really try to hide it

[hollow citrus]

you dont need to

[dry cosmos]

ok how does he clear a hospital map

[valid raven]

But i never explicitly said it

[hollow citrus]

its ok to enjoys long barrels and close quarters if you know what i mean

[dry cosmos]

its fine bro relax im joking

[valid raven]

I know

It was more so meant to be funny

[dry cosmos]

alr

[valid raven]

Tone doesn’t come across in text

[crude prism]

that's classified

[dry cosmos]

i think he classified the whole hospital 🥲

[hollow citrus]

no bro i think the state is just poor af and they dont wanna spend all dat money so they send 5 dudes undermanned and underequipped, and feds are already federal goverment taking over

[crude prism]

all that shit dripping down the walls? that's FISA coming in with black ink to classify it up

[dry cosmos]

mhm men in black suits with stuff dripping down the walls

[crude prism]

sounds like a good date night

[hollow citrus]

why suits

[trail radish]

[hollow citrus]

how about just men black

[reef anvil]

just watched a guy on greased palms insta kill 3 of my officers and myself... ???? bruh the fuck are they running

[ivory apex]

Entry Team: The core group making entry into a building might be composed of one or two teams of 6 to 8 officers each. And we’re the entry team in RON it’s obvious when we die and we hear “Pull out entry team”

[hollow citrus]

yeah pull out with their corpses makes sense

[ivory apex]

Entry Team: The core group making entry into a building might be composed of one or two teams of 6 to 8 officers each. And we’re the entry team in RON it’s obvious when we die and we hear “Pull out entry team”

[stoic thistle]

Drugs, guns, people.

[gray jetty]

Is there any arg at all anymore?

[ivory apex]

No if we die before the AI

[hollow citrus]

yea we still die tho so how do we pull out

[dry cosmos]

so other guys just stand there invisible in hopes that 5 swat guys clear the hospital map, my point stays

[ivory apex]

The other 4 officers will try to pull out

[hollow citrus]

where are they

4 bros just standing like yeah guys we gotchu

[ivory apex]

Not in hopes they’re there to fuck them up, the feds will probably come in 20 men deep and the game would be too easy with a bigger team

[dry cosmos]

i thought you said 5 swat clearing hospital map was realistic, guess i missunderstood sry

[hollow citrus]

ok so why are they there in first place, it doesnt make sense, entry team makes entry, there is also secure perimeter crew that can wait for said feds

[ivory apex]

Well for the scenario yes if judgment theory is true

[hollow citrus]

i dont understand the 4 bros standing outside thing

are they in entry team as a cheer leaders

[dry cosmos]

nah i mean real life analogy, idk how you gonna do that irl even if youre a cyborg you need wallhacks and future vision

[reef anvil]

I hate hostage takers with every fibre of my being

[ivory apex]

You command the 4 ai people to do stuff in game if you don’t command them they will do the last command and if you never command them they will fall in( fall you around the map)

[dry cosmos]

i get that Judge is like adam smasher

[hollow citrus]

ah you meants this well yeah, but you said that when you die they somehow gonna pull out they dont pull out though they just go on

[ivory apex]

The real life analogy is kinda difficult to think about because there is active bombs in the hospital and if it’s like the game those bombs go off if they don’t get them in time so it’s a time issue so they don’t have much time to prepare like usual

[hollow citrus]

judge is alpha wolf and you are little beta pngun

[dry cosmos]

just send a bunch of military what else you gonna do

[stoic thistle]

There's a law against that in the US.

[dry cosmos]

well RoN is definitely not release yet, a beta at best

[dry cosmos]

ok let the hospital blow up cuz 5 guys arent going to clear it

[ivory apex]

Well I’m basing it off what TOC says when you die in commander mode, but you are right the bots I think do just stand there or they finish the rest of the people but in the storyline we’re not supposed to fail a mission so it’s not canon

[dry cosmos]

remember son dying isnt canon

[ivory apex]

Judge is an experiment cop if that’s not obvious already with all the information we get from the lore of the missions especially lethal obsession

[hollow citrus]

i have a very funny joke regarding 1,0 that has to do with inches and devs but im worried it will get sanctioned

[dry cosmos]

yeah cool

[crude rune]

I wonder what elephant is about

[hollow citrus]

yea its really a mystery is it

[dry cosmos]

pumped up kicks song

[crude rune]

Ohhh shit I love that song. The beat makes me happy.

[hollow citrus]

well some pople it doesnt make so happy

[dry cosmos]

theyre just on the wrong side of the barrel

[crude rune]

What.

[hollow citrus]

you mean the CQB barrel

[ivory apex]

You’re acting like when you were a kid you wasn’t bumping the song having no idea what it’s saying but it sounds cool

[hollow citrus]

with the special juice and stuff

[dry cosmos]

oh myyy : 3

[crude rune]

The name of the mission shares a name with that one movie about columbine. I wonder why.

[dry cosmos]

same for me with last resort song

[hollow citrus]

yeah bro i wonder

[dry cosmos]

devs are able to watch and remember movie names thats crazy

[hollow citrus]

its almost like its a college and there is active shooter scenario

[crude rune]

Before y’all speak, I’m very dense

[dry cosmos]

how dense

[crude rune]

What.

[hollow citrus]

no first time i saw active shooter footage was when i was 14

[dry cosmos]

did you record the pov

[crude rune]

Oh fuck it is about a school shooting.

[ivory apex]

Unseen footage from the incident

[hollow citrus]

maybe

[hollow citrus]

have you read mission description?

[dry cosmos]

subscribe to pewdiepie

[crude rune]

I just started reading the 911 calls.

[hollow citrus]

you should try neon tomb 911 calls

[crude rune]

Well I’m only on elephant.

[hollow citrus]

and im on gas

[dry cosmos]

me too

[hollow citrus]

yea we been hitting that gas S rank no bs

[dry cosmos]

what ahh youre about the map

[hollow citrus]

no i mean the S class weed

[dry cosmos]

damn

[hollow citrus]

yeah

when you think about it S rank is actually worst rank because its pretty "ass"

[crude rune]

Dude George’s 911 call.

[hollow citrus]

wait untill peter griffin call

[marsh gust]

1.0 the death of prime ron

[hollow citrus]

1,0 brought cool animations but totally unpolished morale system, im not sure if stress was a thing at 1.0

[edgy salmon]

1.0 killed a few maps I am still mad about that like bro just add it as extra or something

[marsh gust]

1.0 and up just made the game way worse exept for optimization

[hollow citrus]

it was also birth of shoot once and get every suspect 100% in combat mode for free without them ever thinking about surrender again unless you throw a flsahbang then they forgive you killing all their friends

[verbal swan]

does the AI shoot you if you shoot an arrested suspect? I was setting up a firing squad for valley of the dolls and the first shot i got in to amos voll i got shot? Idk maybe i didnt secure the area but still whatt?

[hollow citrus]

because this game has no element of forcing someone in cuffs

[marsh gust]

yeah

just bad now in my opinion

[dense trail]

yo i grinded s teir today on all my missions and all of a sudden its back to my old ones? how do i fix this

[marsh gust]

skill issue

[edgy salmon]

Restart the game

[dense trail]

i did

[hollow citrus]

its unpolished

too many bs stacked up on top of one another

[edgy salmon]

Are your cosmetics still there or is it like a visual glitch

[hollow citrus]

emphasising on quantity of content by adding new things but not fixing the old

[edgy salmon]

Kaminsky said its coming this week