👮ron-discussion

[shy shell]

What about the MK23?

[rustic urchin]

Id like the Px4 to make an appearance as well its one of berettas hidden gems

[honest jetty]

No white color..

[shy shell]

Personally I main the HK416 because it’s my favorite gun in literally any game it’s in

[rustic urchin]

Its a hell of a gun irl too bro a lot of countries have it in service

[lavish trellis]

Is mcx better than f90? I have been using f90 mostly.

[toxic harness]

RoN players when I play that one edm music on the speaker

[shy shell]

In game I think it’d be perfect if it had a little less vertical recoil

[ionic gale]

@crude prism stats guy? Do ur work

[rustic urchin]

I prefer f90 it has low recoil and its pretty short for an assault rifle

[ionic gale]

I mean, it is a piston gun so I would expect to have a bit more recoil

[desert island]

f90 has less recoil, but might have a longer reload

[crude prism]

F90 and MCX are both ballin, ur good either way

[ionic gale]

The MCX is a short stroke piston gun too but I think it has its own recoil mitgation which is why the gun is a lot more lighter on recoil

[rustic urchin]

Or sometimes i just run that uh

I forgot its name but it looks like a modernized FAL PARA

[desert island]

SA58

[peak coyote]

SA58

[rustic urchin]

Yea that one

[peak coyote]

I usually run that or the G3

[shy shell]

I use the MK17 if I want a big caliber

[upbeat rain]

can i do a lethal ironman run if i farm nonlethal gas stations for the sanity?

[ionic gale]

I almost never run the battle rifles and if I do, it’s usually the GA 51

[peak coyote]

Yea

[shy shell]

Eh, my problem with the recoil might just be because I rapid fire too fast

[rustic urchin]

Damn bro i wanna FN F2000 in the game

[desert island]

G36C has no recoil, but it has bad drag, and slow fire rate
F90 has no recoil, but has bad drag, and slow reload, fast fire
GA416 has recoil, but no drag, and fast reload, fast fire rate
ARN180 has no recoil, bad drag, fast reload, fast fire rate
GA51 has no recoil, no drag, slow reload, slow firerate

[rustic urchin]

Full splinter cell loadout

[desert island]

pretty much all the rifles have a downside

[ionic gale]

What’s the issue with the MK 18 and the MCX?

[desert island]

MCX has drag and slow reload

[ionic gale]

The MK 18 is the default weapon so I would expect any other gun to be balanced around it

[rustic urchin]

I dont like its muzzle climb and the iron sights are stuck on mk18

Not a bad gun just not my cup of tea

[shy shell]

I slapped the vertical grip on the MK18 and it went hard as fuck

[desert island]

MK18 has drag, slowreload, and recoil

[ionic gale]

I don’t mind the iron sights, hell they can even be useful for CQC if you are paying attention to the height over bore mechanic of the gun

Of course you’re gonna be using your optics from further distances, but eh

[rustic urchin]

If i had to vote for the biggest piece of shit of the rifle category its gonna go to the lil ak carbine

[ionic gale]

I’ve never used it, I don’t like its attachment selection

[desert island]

SLR47's only upside is its prbly the shortest rifle with suppressor

and shortest rifle with no suppressor i guess too

[ionic gale]

There’s no bad gun per se. It’s all depending on use case,

The only exception that I could MAYBE give is the Flux Raider and the Pepperball pistol

[desert island]

well MK17 or scarh is really bad

[ionic gale]

Why? Too long? heavy recoil?

[desert island]

it has a weird slower weapon swap speed that i dont think any other rifle has

[rustic urchin]

Can we get a scar L with the boot stock and not an ar 15 stock 😭

Even the weapon models on the wall have its original stock

[desert island]

it has insane drag, slow fire rate, slow reload, high recoil compared to other 7.62 rifles

[ionic gale]

Apparently, most of the guns in the game have their own lore about how they got into the LSPD

[desert island]

if u compare all the battle rifle downsides it prbly becomes

[rustic urchin]

Holy shit ur right i just tested it

I never shot a battle rifle irl can anyone confirm the recoil is this bad in realism?

[ionic gale]

If I have to attach lore, I suppose maybe the LSPD did a custom modification for the MK 16 as a way for to fit the needs of SWAT officers in all shapes and sizes

[fathom quartz]

I need help with valley of the dolls I’m trying to S tier eveything

[rustic urchin]

But i never heard of a scar h with buffer tube bro is that even possible

[desert island]

SA58: high recoil, drag, slow firerate, no SROdot
G3A3: slow reload, no SROdot
GA51: slow reload
M14S: high recoil, slow reload, drag, no SROdot
MK17: high recoil, slow reload, drag, slow fire rate, no SROdot, slow swap speed

SROdot having the fastest aim time

[ionic gale]

Aftermarket parts exist for guns like this

[rustic urchin]

O yea i think theres adapters or sum

[desert island]

GA51 has the least downsides of all the 7.62 rifles

but compared to other rifles it has only 20 rounds and slow reload

[unkempt pendant]

ive been playing this game for like an hour so far and its so fun

[toxic harness]

Listening to Neon Tomb ost is pretty nice but managed to make me have ptsd with it

[ionic gale]

I don’t use the battle rifles much anyways

[rustic urchin]

Neon tomb ost got me feelin like john wick and ignoring the piled up bodies on the ground

[desert island]

i think the ARN180 cheats cuz its a 300blkout rifle but is allowed to equip a muzzle break

the LVAR and DM4PDW have too much recoil cuz only using suppressors

[noble badger]

leave my beloved G3A3 alone, it sounds so good

[toxic harness]

Neon Tomb 1 feels like a John Wick Movie, while Neon Tomb 3 could make you feel irritated in a bad way

[ionic gale]

I really wonder what .300 BLK is depicted in the game

I am unsure if it depicts it’s supersonic or subsonic version

[rustic urchin]

I rarely hear of this thing being used irl apparently it was supposed to be a replacement with the honey badger for the mp5sd

[desert island]

what is the downside of 300blkout, it does more damage than 5.56

[fervent hinge]

Haa the devs ever mentioned the weird mirage guns have when you shoot

[rustic urchin]

Uhhhh i dont know if the game has bullet dropoff but i think its generally a close quarters intended round?

[desert island]

guns r basically hitscan tbh

[ionic gale]

If I believe that the game is depicting, it’s subsonic variant then it’s not really accurate as because it’s traveling at a lower velocity than subsonic then it shouldn’t be this good at penetrating body armor

[fervent hinge]

The game just has the bullet comes out of your barrel instead of your body

[ionic gale]

That’s why it also could be it’s supersonic variant that has higher velocity and can probably penetrate better body armor

[rustic urchin]

Unlike siege 🙄

[ionic gale]

300 blackout suppressed weapons in red or not or not are not all that quiet so that’s why I don’t think it’s using subsonic

[fervent hinge]

Man I would love it if I could put a suppressor on supernova just like siege

[rustic urchin]

I agree but damn that suppressor is ugly af in there bro they LOVE to reuse assets

[ionic gale]

300 blackout’s main benefit is that it doesn’t suffer from the velocity requirements of 556

[fervent hinge]

You mean in r6?

[rustic urchin]

Yea

[desert island]

300blk out pretty much has the same shots to kill as 7.62 on hard mode

[ionic gale]

7.62x39? Or 7.62x51mm?

[desert island]

51

[fervent hinge]

But it sounds very cool and the range and the power of it is amazing
I used to run it a lot both in attack and defense

[ionic gale]

case wise, it’s really similar to 7.62x39, 300 blackout case specifications is 7.62x35mm

[rustic urchin]

Yea man m590 or whateva and supernova r the best pumps

Dont overlook lesion n yings sg tho

[wild rampart]

@gaunt gale just a quick question but I thought Valley of the Dolls was not gonna change when release happened?

[ionic gale]

That’s really strange, I don’t know if ready or not is depicting fictionalized cracked version of 300 blackout, but that shit should NOT be that good at what it’s doing

[desert island]

its more like cuz enemies have 190 or 230 hp and
7.62x51 only does 160 AP or 180 JHP damage

so no matter wat u need 2 rifle shots to kill

[fervent hinge]

The suppressor on those guns are like bugger than the gun
So thick and girthy

[rustic urchin]

Lets just lie to ourselves and say jhp is the subsonic and ap is supersonic lmao

[desert island]

5.56 does 122.5 AP or 132.5 JHP
.300 does 135 AP or 145 JHP

[ionic gale]

Anyways, so back to what I was saying

.300 blackout remedies, the shortcomings of 556 because 556 is a high velocity round that needs to travel a certain amount of time or distance in order to be effective in terms of penetrating body armor

[desert island]

so all 3 can do over 230 damage in 2 shots

[dark venture]

Why is Elephant missing from my mission list ?

[ionic gale]

huh?

[desert island]

and the only true break point in the game that makes 5.56 and .300 different is

[fervent hinge]

Are you in single player or multiplayer

[desert island]

gerald scott has 280 hp

[dark venture]

Single player

[ionic gale]

What mission are you on?

How do you not have access to it?

You playing Commander mode or quick play? Because the progression is different from both of those obviously.

[dark venture]

Quick play theres every mission ?

[ionic gale]

No, you have to unlock them separately on quick play

Only in multiplayer is where you get access to all missions form the get go

[fervent hinge]

Yeah there is every mission but you gotta unlock em

[desert island]

u unlock them in order so if ur missing a mission it means ur missing every mission after that mission too

[ionic gale]

556 actually benefits from traveling a certain amount of distance as it’s a high velocity cartridge, of course extreme differences it’s going to start losing it tomorrow, but yeah

[fervent hinge]

I wish the commander mode was in a chrongical order and not a difficulty order

[ionic gale]

That’s the reason why you see many short barrel rifles use 300 blackout because it doesn’t suffer the velocity downsides of 5.56

also, it’s subsonic variant makes it particularly quiet with a suppressor

[crude prism]

Gas Station
Neon
Relapse

ah yeah we killing new players with this one

[ionic gale]

Hey MMMM….

This is my inner gun need speaking, but I really need to know which version of .300 BLK is detected in game

[fervent hinge]

It's crazy how soon those stuff happens heh

[ionic gale]

I’m trying to find the one piece at this point

I don’t know if it’s subsonic or supersonic being depicted as they are different versions of 300 blackout

This is a very important question (to me)

judging by the performance in the game and it’s sound
not really being too quiet, I have to suspect it’s supersonic

[rustic urchin]

Man that was the reality in 2015 and 2016 terrorist attacks everywhere

[native lion]

we got mission gatekeeping 😭 😭 😭 😭

[rustic urchin]

Jit got the beta censorship feature 😭

[ionic gale]

I NEED ANSWERS

[rustic urchin]

Fuck elephant we removing it entirely

[fervent hinge]

Do you imagine the person swatting the streamer knows what he done with that phone call

[ionic gale]

Elephant got smited by soppy and xbawks

To be real tho, Elephant should be there

[ionic gale]

We need to give that man a medal of honor, he unknowingly took down a major child exploitation ring in Los Sueños

[noble pasture]

The swatting call was AI faked

[fervent hinge]

Not just that
We took down the whole operation (but maybe cus the fisa guy talking yo us when we find the container so they might be on the case or hiding something???

[rustic urchin]

I mean fbi suddenly wanna act like the epstein files dont exist so it doesnt seem out of reality

[fervent hinge]

There is a bunch of theories
Like
They were on the human trafficking operation
They knew what was up but waited so they can track it maybe
I wonder what theories you guys have

[ionic gale]

Someone still that made the AI talk

That someone is a hero fr

[rustic urchin]

Im pretty shallow on theories but i just assume they they wanted to put those poor women thru hell a lil longer to chase down the rest of the trafficking ring

[fervent hinge]

That means we need to swat more streamers for the better good

[ionic gale]

fr

(This is a comical statement, I don’t seriously condone anyone do this action as it can ruin families and get ppl killed)

tdlr: don’t fucking do this

[fervent hinge]

But I mean we took over the whole port
We took down the main guys so Idk how they gonna just send those women away after they got found out by the swat team and their body cam plus all the police force coming there later to secure the place down

Also have you guys seen the 4 people on the laptop in the last part of the mission in hide and seek
It's a fun detail

[desert island]

fisa bad

[crude prism]

Well it's not really implemented, just flavor text, but technically it's listed at 910 m/s. (at least on the DDM4PDW)

So we're actually pissing fucking hot for a .300blk load

[ionic gale]

So the LSPD just has a superduper special .300 BLK load?

How can our guns handle those pressures?

[crude prism]

Vibranium probably

[rustic urchin]

Same way we keep it pushing after getting our legs swiss cheesed by the ai aimbot

[crude prism]

Judge used his contacts in Wakanda to source vibranium firearms for his team

[ionic gale]

👅

Yeah, I don’t know if we’re ever going to get a somewhat proper reputation of 300 blackout because…

[desert island]

they dont even fix bugs

[native lion]

wondering to myself how did i ever achieve and A or higher on neon tomb without using pepper launchers, ive been bashing my head against this mission but i never find the suspects in a position where i can use anything other than bullets against them

i thought incapacitated suspects gave you more points than dead ones

[ionic gale]

I was gonna say because 300 blackout is kinda confusing caliber

According to a bunch of weird caliber performance mumbo-jumbo that you probably don’t care about…

[desert island]

does the 509 and MK17 have a swap speed penalty, because they r like the only guns who have a delayed swap

[crude prism]

I think they're literally just bugged

[desert island]

lol

[ionic gale]

.300 BLK Supers are kinda like shooting 7.62x39mm, And .300 BLK Subsonic? You’re basically shooting a more aerodynamic .45 ACP?

Very simplified explanation

Also .300 BLK is usually not too hard to swap over for an AR 15

All it requires just a bit of parts change like the barrel and bolt, you can also generally use the same magazines as you would with 5.56

[rustic urchin]

Are we ever getting 223's in the game btw

[ionic gale]

It’s not too different from 5.56

mainly, just different pressures

.223 Remington was the birth of 5.56

[rustic urchin]

Ive shot both irl and i couldnt feel a noticable difference but since they have different pressures i do wanna maybe see a slight stat change in the performance

[ionic gale]

M193 was the first 5.56mm ammo used in the M16A1 and still wildly sold on the civilian market today

[rustic urchin]

It'd be nice to switch between those

[ionic gale]

Yeah, that’s the main difference mainly, because of the pressure difference I don’t know if many guns can cycle 223

Well, I don’t think cycle is the right word

There definitely would be maybe some malfunctions, but you would have to spec your gun in order to fit the pressure of 223 Remington

[merry cliff]

has anyone found a fix for expired sessions and timing out? ive had issue with it all week and some of my friends too, all is connected but i can't find or figure out a fix

[rustic urchin]

I think most guns that are standard in 556 can handle 223 just fine

Not the other way around tho

Ppl like 223 at the range cuz its a lil cheaper

[ionic gale]

Are you thinking of M193 5.56?

That’s like basic boy 5.56 that you can get on the civilian market, it’s EVERYWHERE

[ionic gale]

Do not fire a gun that was designed for 223 with 556 or it’s going to explode

[rustic urchin]

Yea lmao

[novel forge]

Its fine

Ive got a weird gun that likes both

[rustic urchin]

But like i know this isnt realistic but it would be nice to be able to have 223 in the game with some cons and pros

[ionic gale]

The problem is that 556 has a higher pressure than 223 Remington

It’s not like your gun is going to explode, but I would expect some sort of problems for certain firearms

[novel forge]

Yeah the only issue is the gas ejection ejects proper with 556 vs a little trouble with 223

[ionic gale]

Yerp

I’m kinda salty that RON has a fictional superduper special .300 BLK cartridge

[lavish trellis]

Are there Rifles that can carry more ammo?

[ionic gale]

What do you mean?

[rustic urchin]

Uhh i dont think so but i think some smgs have a higher mag capacity like mp7 or p90

[native lion]

ammo capacity depends on caliber too, bigger boolet means less space in the magazine for said boolet

[ionic gale]

all rifles at the very most are going to have 30 rounds, more than enough

[desert island]

max for rifle is 31
max for smg is 51
max for pistol is 21
max for shotgun is 11?

[ionic gale]

Yerp

[desert island]

having 1 in the chamber

[rustic urchin]

If you want more space for mags just take out smth ur not gonna be using

[ionic gale]

Wildly depends on gun, of course too

[rustic urchin]

I removed my taser for an extra pouch

[ionic gale]

There’s no extended mag attachments or anything like that

[native lion]

you must be really enjoying the gunplay to be needing more ammo

[rustic urchin]

💀

I think we all agree the p90 is the perfect firearm for him

[ionic gale]

I carry 4 primary magazines with three secondary magazines

I’m planning on ditching a C2 that I’m not using at all for another primary mag

[rustic urchin]

I sacrificed 1 secondary mag for a primary

I dont need 3 mags for a fiveseven

[lavish trellis]

Hmm. I might do that.

[native lion]

i almost never use my secondary, then again i use the LVAR so i may be playing on easy mode

[rustic urchin]

Yea man u generally never use a secondary unless u really have to

[ionic gale]

The 5.56 MCX I hold close to me

[rustic urchin]

And 2 mags of 20 rounds for my secondary is just fine

Damn fn really cooked bro

If only they werent wallet killers irl

[ionic gale]

I’m thinking about giving me my team FN 509s

We are done using the M11 Compact

[desert island]

always reload ur mkv at the start of a map to have 8 shots

[ionic gale]

7*

[desert island]

1 in the chamberino

[ionic gale]

It’s a 6 round mag + 1 in the chamber

[native lion]

qadamah just vanished from the map on neon tomb

brought order to chaos and he´s nowhere to be found

[desert island]

its a 7 round mag and if u reload u can keep 1 in the chamber with +7

[toxic harness]

Did you get any alert that he was kia?

[native lion]

neither

The objective is just unfullfilled

[desert island]

hes prbly dead

[toxic harness]

He was in the hospital already lol

[vale inlet]

they need to change the channel name looking for group to looking for sweats w mods. i like mods as much as the next but i aint goin out of my way to get them

[toxic harness]

He was waiting for you to come to Relapse and taste the treatment that what Americans did to the village

[desert island]

if bring order to chaos is crossed out,
but qadamah is not crossed out
then hes prbly incapacitated somewhere and u didnt tie him up

[native lion]

i ended up restarting the mission because i probably got another B, im too lethal in this 😭 😭 😭

[toxic harness]

If I am not tired, imma try to S rank Elephant

But the song "Pumped Up Kicks" will be looped

[errant bane]

shoulda killed Qadamah at Neon so I wouldn’t have to deal with Relapse

[ionic river]

Diabolical

[errant bane]

not hard to do

[toxic harness]

Ayo I seen you beforr

[vale inlet]

This game is a lobby simulator

[knotty python]

Is there any way to play the game as it was pre censorship?

[ionic gale]

On console? No

On PC? A mod is available on mod.io because Nexus got cold feet by the UK government for the CSAM implied content of the uncensored mod, they took it down

[pearl wave]

Get lucky with the rng and its easy. So far the only ones i havent s ranked are Greased Palms and Sins of the Father. S ranked Hide and Seek today.

[ionic gale]

The mod is made by Mr Eman who is a moderator here, he was working with VOID’s community manager Kaminsky to get the mod back on Nexus, but no prevail

It’s available on mod.io,

I think it’s called Uncensored Or Not

@knotty python

[desert island]

i think its called mostly uncensored or not

[neon finch]

hey srry if this has been asked before but is the M32A1 launcher on console? I cant find anything on it

[desert island]

for preorder

[neon finch]

aw ;w;

[desert island]

devs say theyll be free after next dlc

[neon finch]

yippee!!!

[languid void]

just completed the training again and i still have what it takes wow

[mental ivy]

Does anyone else have a bug where facewear will not appear to other players?

Like other people in multiplayer do not see that I have a gasmask or the flash resistant goggles it always looks like I got no facewear on in their body cams

[knotty python]

Thanks a bunch man! My wife wanted to try the game and I wanted her to see how dark the story was before the console launch.

Thankfully we’re on pc

[ionic gale]

[viral knot]

Does anyone know the chronological order of the missions

[stone bay]

Thoughts on the best lethal weapon? I'm tossing up between GA51, G3A3, LVAR and MK17.

[bright pier]

after finally beating greased palms for the first time i fully believe i am owed a job at the local swat team. i ran out of ammo, lost my entire team it was a shit show but i never have to go thru that hell again

[vivid valley]

have they fixed the beta glitch yet?

[stone bay]

Jokes on you, I'm doing it on Hard... 😭

[bright pier]

i could not physically ever subject myself to such torture

[muted saffron]

M14?

[stone bay]

Haven't tried it. Is it good? I'm more a fan of semi-auto so I can take out multiple enemies that rush or bunch up.

[muted saffron]

All I know is that it packs a punch with 7.62mm and is definitely a semi-auto rifle because going full auto is a bad idea

[sly beacon]

How do I get the "from house to home" trophy on PlayStation (I have all the trophys for the dlc)

[errant bane]

i use slug shotguns

mostly because it’s badass but for rifle work I use the 416 on the 5.56 side and the scar h for 7.62

[potent chasm]

SA-58 OSW

very good, it takes enemies down with ease, armor and no armor

[errant bane]

all 7.62 rifles 1 shot enemies

maybe like 3 max and that’s on like heavily armored guys

[elfin sandal]

🤓 “erm actually, the 7.62 rifles in ready or not incapacitate individuals (saying you shoot them center mass) with one round, therefore every individual is 2 shots “heavy armored” as you say probably being 3…”

I’m sorry

[sly beacon]

😭

[karmic birch]

man it takes atleast 10 bullets if im lucky to not die with the first burst to kill enemies with the SA58

[errant bane]

it’s fine but yea incapping is fine

the only thing that pisses me off is slugs don’t penetrate the armor on guys on elephant and sins of the father

i would prefer to incap them but i just change it up to buckshot and blow their limbs off

[grand glen]

That lobbyists guy actually helped LS after the energy crisis

[midnight cliff]

how to be good in this game😭

this chat is dead

[karmic birch]

check every door with a mirror and pray also have the ai clear everything first

[midnight cliff]

oh so i shouldnt really rush at the door straight?

[karmic birch]

you go to a door and use the camera and then have the ai clear it

[midnight cliff]

alr thx

[desert island]

u shuld always pie stuff

[karmic birch]

sometimes the enemies will open the door as you're mirroring and you can mirror around corners and under openings

[midnight cliff]

huh

[midnight cliff]

alr thx

[dawn burrow]

I miss supporters edition

[desert island]

slice a room from side to side

[dawn burrow]

I was not trying to burn 120 dollars back then

[desert island]

be on the right side of a door or entrance and scan it 180 degrees

[stone bay]

Hey everyone. I know this seems random but is there anyone out there who is willing to get S rank? Its a nightmare running it on random lobbies.

[pine pollen]

Is the hard difficulty increase suspects' health?

[desert island]

yes +30 hp

[pine pollen]

Ah

[dawn burrow]

I can't help right now sorry but I can offer tips, which mission are you on

[stone bay]

Rust mission.

[errant bane]

I would say rust belt isn’t that hard but I spent an hour S'ing that shit yesterday

[stone bay]

How was the experience?

[errant bane]

and the first try i literally had it til some dude ran up right on me and i accidentally popped him in the head

[errant bane]

not super hard

[dawn burrow]

Oh damn, okay so when u get to the tunnels because that's what you should've been struggling on (i hope) use wedges to section off areas so you don't get ambushed or suspects can escape to behind you

[stone bay]

Are there specific key doors to wedge? I mean damn. Its a maze..

[karmic birch]

left side then circling back seems like a decent way to go and then clearing right side til the cave then hitting the middle or both that and right side with flashes and breaching seems like a plan i only got B on it though after 3 hours

[stone bay]

And I dont know the layout too well either

[stone bay]

3 hours????????

[errant bane]

I usually try to wedge chokepoint doors

[stone bay]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-baby-child-girl-tired-gif-4871328261097149781

[errant bane]

so if an area only has 1 entrance then I’ll wedge that door

[karmic birch]

i am not the best player and slow at missions(only small maps i got done in 5-15 minutes) mostly 20-30 on the rest)

[stone bay]

Solo is rough, random lobbies-absolute chaos.

[errant bane]

i did it as a duo with my friend

[dawn burrow]

It takes a few retries if you have officers to burn to learn it the map partially enough to get through but nobody would want to witness their officer get turned in to marinara sauce. So basically just wedge doors behind you and if there's a second door into that area close that one off too if that makes sense, so in that way an entire place would be blocked off

[civic lance]

I've been playing RON for over a year. Ever since console players came it's been chaos on randos

[errant bane]

I would say S isn’t that hard but i only have it on 8/18 missions

though I don’t think something like greased palms or relapse would be an easy S with just a duo

[stone bay]

Im a console player 🥲

[civic lance]

@stone bay Console players are fine it is the COD players that come around and don't play the game as intended

[dawn burrow]

What got me through was dont over extend into other sections and just do the first one too. So in that first circle place where it opens to multiple doors open each of those doors, clear the areas and the rooms in those areas but don't go into doors with more doors

[stone bay]

You guys are admirable for the time you put in and achieving that S because holy-shit.

[dawn burrow]

Oh and use pepperball if you haven't already

[stone bay]

This has never been more truer. Its honestly frustrating.

[civic lance]

I always like to use the camera on the doors and wedge what I don't want to enter. Especially on greased palms

[topaz solstice]

Hello everyone. I'm fairly new to discord and this is my first server I joined

[errant bane]

nah use beanbags

[stone bay]

But won't i miss out on certain things? Evidence and such?

[errant bane]

beanbags are way more effective than pepperballs

[errant bane]

just arrest guys and pick their guns up as you go along

[dawn burrow]

Well secure evidence as you go, there's only 1 soft objective in the caves and thats the last part and the other is the passports

[civic lance]

You won't. You will end up moving through those other sections anyways. It's just so enemy Ai won't come behind you

[stone bay]

Fuck it. Ok. Im gonna give it one last go and if I get lit up, then im going to bed.

[civic lance]

@stone bay are you on greased palms?

[dawn burrow]

Pepperball is effective for me because the suspects tend hide when they see you since it's also a long hallway so it's better to just spam pepper instead of trying to tom brady a can of CS down the hallway

[stone bay]

Thank you all. You dudes are the best, i appreciate the tips.

[errant bane]

greased palms

[stone bay]

No sir. Rust belt.

[civic lance]

ohhhh

[errant bane]

im Peyton Manning with a flashbang and rust belt has some tight spots so thats how I do it

[civic lance]

I never played that map. I'm just now getting back into it with the release of console players

[topaz solstice]

I loved Rust Belt

[stone bay]

Its great but achieving S. Not so great.

[errant bane]

you just need 1 friend ngl

[topaz solstice]

It can be

[errant bane]

half the missions in the game are easily S'd as a duo

[dawn burrow]

Respectable, at least anti flash goggles aren't accessible to the public

[stone bay]

Yeeeaaaa. Don't have the luxury, chief.

[shy flame]

hear me out guys but do yall think ready or not could do a collab mission with payday? like 4 heisters with amazing armour and aim and super intelligent AI with traps, and even fake audio traps and on a bank map maybe even place masks on employees to fool players

[topaz solstice]

Are you on console?

[civic lance]

I'll roll with you

[stone bay]

Yup

[stone bay]

Im down.

[topaz solstice]

Then I'll do it with you

[dawn burrow]

Anything is possible when you have a game with diplomatic bodyguards with years in the CIA and army special operations that suddenly decides to turn on a measly old senator

[civic lance]

The beauty of RON is that it is based on some real life SWAT missions. You have to remember that criminals aren't really that smart. The traps they already have are fine I believe

[stone bay]

Add my discord, i unfortunately have to call it. Its 4am and im slumped. I also have errands to run but ill keep you posted.

[crude prism]

when do we get the crackhead trap houses with knives and shit that fall from the ceiling

[shy flame]

thats why having intelligent enemies for once would make that map 10x interesting and 4 heisters guranteed they're still going to be realistic in RON just enough difficulty for players of higher skills to destroy them still

[errant bane]

mfs want a Saw trap map

[civic lance]

There is already a mission with crackheads running at you with knives

[stone bay]

I 2nd this.

[civic lance]

I agree. Smarter AI would make the missions harder. That would be nice

[errant bane]

really surprised there’s not a bank mission

[crude prism]

"You are trapped in this room" -JohnSaw

'Heh... Team, deploy C2' -JudgeSWAT

[topaz solstice]

Being absolutely gone makes you dangerous to the most trained officers

[shy flame]

honestly they could make the payday collab temporary event and then switch them out for regular heisters with those masks yk the one?

[north kraken]

I did every single achievement for the home invasion dlc but didn’t unlock from house to home

[errant bane]

i once said something really stupid to my friend cause i was like “bruh why can’t we play as the bad guys”

[civic lance]

Temp events would be cool. As long as it doesn't take away from the main idea of the game

[errant bane]

don’t think playing as ISIS or the guys on Elephant would be received very well

[dawn burrow]

WE yes WE all waiting for the map with a 5 man swat team having to take down an entire 10,000 man kenyan rebel group

[civic lance]

Exactly. The mission with crackheads running at you is completley different every time. You never know if you'll get run at or not

[rich cobalt]

think that'll be in the PVP mode
we'll most likely get something similar to SWAT4's VIP and barricaded suspects PVP modes.

we'll also maybe assume the role of the teased mariposa lily organization for the suspects team

like in the RoN alpha PVP

[civic lance]

they tried a PVP mode back in the day. it takes away from the idea of the game

[shy flame]

yeah like a payday collab would be nice and it leaves a special helmet like one of the swats in the payday games wear, then they can do siege yes ik ones arcade swat and other is realistic swat but it would be cool to see a siege collab probably just be able to wear a certain operator's fit

[rich cobalt]

they're bringing it back (without sprinting), so it'll be very similar to SWAT4.

[errant bane]

I really hope sprinting is added one day

[civic lance]

Now that would be nice. I'd hate to see this game turn into R6

[topaz solstice]

I love when a government of a country wages war against themselves

[errant bane]

like bro i can definitely run for atleast like 3 seconds even with all this shit on

[shy flame]

it used to be in the game actually

[dawn burrow]

In the zombie mod from wmfeld my friend and me were on elephant and he said "it's like you're the school shooter" but the students have no hiding instinct

[rich cobalt]

mm.. MKULTRA victims

[civic lance]

Special multiplayer events with prizes could be nice but it would have to be done right

[rich cobalt]

are you familiar with SWAT4's PVP?

[errant bane]

when cause I don’t remember

[rich cobalt]

would love to finally pepper spray my teammates and spam stingers.

[civic lance]

Yes. R6 was originally supposed to be like RON

[rich cobalt]

because good god, stingers in SWAT4's VIP mode was a nightmare

[topaz solstice]

That changed quickly

[shy flame]

exactly

[midnight cliff]

oh alr thx

[civic lance]

Exactly. This game is too good to be turned into a battlefield, COD, or R6 kind of game

[rich cobalt]

the stinger effect in SWAT4 is much worse than RoN's
RoN's has a really bad screen sway when you're hit with it, but SWAT4's is 10 times worse.

[errant bane]

I mean the siege terrorist ai were dumb as rocks compared to the occasional The Punisher ai on RoN

[midnight cliff]

should i use sub machine or assault i need to break their armor and kill fast

[rich cobalt]

i love actual tactical shooter PVP.

[sand hull]

rifle, smg’s hit like a slap on the wrist of a bodybuilder

[mental ivy]

when will the hard mode AI being unfair superman senses get fixed

[rich cobalt]

SWAT4 PVP, and rainbow six rogue spear PVP.. god

[midnight cliff]

oh ok thx

[rich cobalt]

rogue spear was so cool.

ran medium armor and an MP5K with a beretta 92FS for PVP.

[topaz solstice]

Never played SWAT 4

[rich cobalt]

you should, it's amazing.

also, you can carry both an optiwand (mirrorgun) and a breaching shotgun at the same time.

[shy flame]

maybe like arresting an amount of suspects instead of killing, kills with a certain gun type so players arent stuck to one thing, get an amount of headshots, and maybe like just using an equipment a certain amount

[civic lance]

I like to use the LVAR. .300 blackout integrally suppressed

[rich cobalt]

SWAT4 awarded you more points for arresting players as suspects or SWAT

[wanton tangle]

It’s much better apparently

[civic lance]

Yes things that encourage non lethal options to get prizes

[karmic birch]

300 blk is good but weak at the same time

[topaz solstice]

I would but I don't have a PC

[shy flame]

ive never played those games growing up so i wouldnt know but i hear its very popular in the community of RON

[rich cobalt]

and for some reason, no one complains about clothed victims in SWAT4.

[civic lance]

.300 blk isn't weak at all. It is a good all around platform that out preforms .556 by a longshot

[rich cobalt]

it's a blast to the past.
should be 10 bucks on GoG.

PVP is still online too.

you just have to go through their website to find servers though. they have an official one since gamespy isn't a thing anymore.

[shy flame]

or like using tactics like "command a teammate to use Ram, kick, flashbang, gas, etc 25 times!" ykw i mean

[rich cobalt]

there's also co-op.

[shy flame]

i'll check it out

[rich cobalt]

all of the commands from RoN are in there (yes, even the "kill me" command)

[civic lance]

Like commander mode but emphasizing non lethal options on maps like greased palms. make it hard to get those prizes

[rich cobalt]

and you're able to kill your officers without the rest of the team turning invincible.

[shy flame]

yeah but it makes players better because if its for a limited item players love that so they'll push themselves to do that

[rich cobalt]

imagine the customization options for MLO.

i want to wear that stupid flower mask from the MLO teaser.

[civic lance]

Yeah if we can have limited clothing options that are really hard to obtain it would make the game that much more fun

Me having the DLC's unlocks more clothing options. Fuck the DLC's let's have more community engagment and be able to unlock this stuff

[rich cobalt]

at least with the MLO mask i can look silly without being nicki minaj or a ninja turtle.

[shy flame]

idk about that because i know they dont want us running like its siege skins even with the shirt from VoD thats the most standout players can get

[rich cobalt]

flower mask is in lore though

.. what would be cool is if they added classic SWAT4 suspects outfits.

[civic lance]

YESSS

[rich cobalt]

urban BDUs, and hockey masks.

[atomic laurel]

Can you get evidence on casual

In the evidence locker i mean, as the reward for s rank

[civic lance]

idk about hockey masks though. Kinda defeats the point of being a swat team

[shy flame]

yes in lore its there but we're the swat that'll be a bad look, plus imagine how many team kills would happen with that

[civic lance]

mayble balaclavas

[midnight cliff]

is it good??

[shy flame]

you should yes

[atomic laurel]

What about clothes

[rich cobalt]

i meant for suspects.
MLO isn't SWAT.

[civic lance]

That's waht I always use. Have been for a long time. Good strong gun

[rich cobalt]

and the flower mask would be limited to mariposa only.

[shy flame]

ohh suspects, sure

[rich cobalt]

sigh.

you don't know what the MLO is.

[civic lance]

I agree. Suspects using masks and unconventional weapons would be nice

[midnight cliff]

alr thx but how to mkae it integrally supressed

[jaunty mauve]

did they get rid of all the mods and leave only a few or am i missing something?

[shy flame]

i kinda do but dont trust my mind fully i watched it off wendigoon

[civic lance]

The weapon is already like that

[rich cobalt]

the MLO's heavy armor in RoN's alpha PVP literally had welded plates for fucking arm protection.

[rotund moon]

I mean they kinda already use unconventional weapons how many people do you see with WW2 era smgs around

[midnight cliff]

ohhhhh alr thx

[rich cobalt]

and they have a homemade IFAK with the title "STIMS" on the casing attached to their LBV

[civic lance]

I'm talking more like pipe bombs and more crude weaponry. Just a change in pace

[rotund moon]

Yea it could definitely change up the pace but pipe bombs could ruin some perfect runs

[civic lance]

Like it would be cool if they took more real life cases and tried to model that into the game. The weird 1 in a million SWAT cases

[civic lance]

The game isn

isn't about perfect runs though

[rotund moon]

It likely won’t be added but I’d really enjoy a North Hollywood shootout inspired swat response

[shy flame]

like a bad home made gun (that could jam for the enemies) or using a harpoon gun (if they make a map which would have one like the yacht) on players but it only shoots once would be insane maybe even something like instead of a knife an enemy uses a machete, or bat

[civic lance]

YESS. they already have the SWAT uni for that in game

[civic lance]

Like the Ted Kaczynski pistol

[shy flame]

yes

[rotund moon]

Be nice to get more police stuff in the game imo such as more cosmetics with patches that say Police or swat on them

Think there’s like exactly 5 cosmetics in game that have some sort of police identifying marker

[shy flame]

ohhhh patches should be added into the game as unlockables to wear honestly would be more better than tattoos that you likely dont see

[civic lance]

I would like more patrol type callouts. You respond to a robbery in progress in a patrol uniform without mods

[karmic birch]

is there a mod to tell me if i hit a dude because theres no way a guy with a hoodie just ate 2-3 rounds to the chest in relapse that effectively that he could then shoot me in the head

[civic lance]

the tattoos suck and should be removed

[civic lance]

That is realistic though.

[rotund moon]

I’m a personal enjoyer of the tattoos and like a fair amount of them

[karmic birch]

nobody is realistically surviving what i layed down on dude he didnt even see me first smh

[civic lance]

You would be surprised what the human body can take

[shy flame]

i say be replaced by patches, i get cops do have tats but like thats only open to see for players who wear a shirt only and most players prefer to wear long sleeves so why not make it patches instead although they should leave it as is and make patches its own thing like a badge for being a headhunter, make a bunch of suspect arrests, a dummy patch (that guy from the books something for dummies) for killing your teammate, and maybe even Medusa but the one those women pray for doing something special in that mission

[karmic birch]

i hit him with AP 300 blk to the chest theres no way he'd have killed me like that granted there was another guy pieing the corner but no way he could ready that quick as well the ai is so inhuman

[civic lance]

Maybe like ground branch where you can kinda customize your own helmet patch?

[civic lance]

Yeah the AI can be stupid but realistically one bullet won't put a man down sometimes

[shy flame]

A pikumiku patch would be sick, i mean yeah but instead of just on the helmet you can move it down to like your vest too in set places already depending on the vest

[karmic birch]

i shot more than once into his chest thats why i need a hit marker mod fr because i just dont believe for a second these dudes are taking all my lead like theyre the lead monster

[civic lance]

If RON adapted some of ground branch's customization things it would be way better

[shy flame]

never played it but watched gameplay that game is certainly a game, but yeah just more customization nothing drastic like siege but something that'll make players truly feel special about their character in the game

[civic lance]

A hit marker would dissolve the whole idea around RON. Look into some bodycam footage and see that it is somewhat realistic

[civic lance]

ground branch does a good job with customization. But they are a small development group and the game has been the same for like a year

[karmic birch]

ive seen plenty of bodycam footage ive seen so much that if you picked a random one right now i'd say i have watched it. if you saw the replay youd understand my frustration with this game

[shy flame]

yeah RON can take it not like its something they can trademark

[civic lance]

I'm not disagreeing with you. Some of the Ai are like tanks

[crude prism]

Ground Branch will enter 1.0 in like 40-50 years at the current development rate

[shy flame]

maybe by then payday 3 wont be dogshit

[civic lance]

Exactly. I would say it is a better game than RON if it had actual missions

[stone bay]

That's why I only ever use 7.62x51

[karmic birch]

all of them if this new update wasnt the way it was i'd just sail the seas some more to play on casual and not worry about it but i can not

[civic lance]

I'm american. 556 or .300 blk

[crude prism]

I wouldn't put any money on it

[karmic birch]

i should go back to that it did wonders but the recoil was not the best

[shy flame]

sigh

[crude prism]

I'm a little late to y'alls conversation.

But if you're on console, unfortunately there seems to be hitreg issues that are not present on PC.

Ghost bullets & no-damage-hits mostly.

Even in singleplayer

[civic lance]

Look. A game can't be super realistic without one side having a superior advantage. For what it is RON is a good sequel to SWAT4

[civic lance]

The game was made just for PC. A lot was changed to port for console

I don't have any issues with AI on PC

[shy flame]

is that why i saw a tiktok of a crackhead surviving a bunch of bullets even though his flesh was flying off

[elfin sandal]

Their are so many American rifles that use 7.62x51 what

[trail radish]

Its a great sequel, only thing its slightly lacking on imo is the way suspects act compared to swat 4

[crude prism]

Probably.

I genuinely have no idea what's going on. (I don't have a console, so everything is secondhand)

I can't imagine the spaghetti code that would cause blood/impact effects to trigger, but no damage be dealt, IN SINGLEPLAYER

Which also IS NOT PRESENT on PC

[civic lance]

I've never had issues with AI on PC. Let them work through the bugs and console will be just as good

[shy flame]

honestly theres a lot on the devs right now i dont even know what they're focusing on

[crude prism]

Classic Voop.

[civic lance]

It takes a lot to port a PC focused game to a console game

[karmic birch]

idk which version i got from blackbeard but its definitely got some issues dont even get me started on the flash like speed of ai

[crude prism]

💀

Standard mode is actually pretty good right now I would say.

Hard is just.. cancer...

[civic lance]

I don't even bother with hard. Standard is pretty hard already

Who in the US want's to hop on with me?

[shy flame]

i havent tried it really except once for thank you come again is it that bad?

[civic lance]

Yeah. try it on greased palms.

I can't remember the name of the other map but basically you are in a server center. Basically no civs and just gunmen

[karmic birch]

sinuous trail there are like 6 civs on the map

[civic lance]

that might be the one I'm thinking of

[valid mural]

Just wondering

Is 400 hours on RON considered a lot?

[civic lance]

I'd imagine there isn't much more you can do

[karmic birch]

yes theres like only 100 hours of gameplay potentional imo

[valid mural]

Well as of now I’m on 395 hours

Been playing since November last year

[gleaming veldt]

im on valley where the FUCK is the last civilian

[valid mural]

I just love the gunplay and tactics needed to clear maps

[civic lance]

I've put like 3k hours in other games but there isn't much more to do in RON

[noble pasture]

If you get "mission soft complete" thats when you hit the "search and secure"

[stone bay]

Have you S ranked hard mode on ironman?

[civic lance]

I don't put that much work into running the same map over and over again. Some people want to but I won't

[viral knot]

Hi chat, currently doing missions in chronological order, im at Stolen Valour

[viral knot]

Yeah the games great because you cant just run in and kill everyone, you get penalties and actually have to be careful, especially when it comes to traps, hostage situations, etc

[civic lance]

That's what makes RON the game it is

[shy flame]

yo my fucking bots are idiots dude in the spider in a shoot THEY REFUSED TO SHOOT THE MFS SHOOTING AT US a citizen died and a officier i had to take down 2 dudes alone because the bots didnt shoot

[valid mural]

Ive tried Arma 3 and Insurgency sandstorm, they dont hit the same as RON does

[civic lance]

That's a downside to the game. Officer Ai is stupid

[civic lance]

Arma 3 is great. If you have people who can be trained to clear rooms properly

[nimble prawn]

It is impossible to find a good public lobby in this game

[civic lance]

Exactly

[valid mural]

its either laggy af or room temperature IQ officers

[nimble prawn]

And everyone in #🔎looking-for-players just want S ranks or some shit

Wish there was a lobby list or smth

[civic lance]

back in the day A3L server had good police departments. We had units that could run buildings like real swat teams

[nimble prawn]

Like so you could filter lobbies with people who want use voip or do s ranks and pick that way

[viral knot]

Bro a fucking knifer got half my team

[nimble prawn]

Hate those pricks

[valid mural]

but i feel that IRL, no sane officer would bring a pepperball rifle to a raid

[nimble prawn]

This is a video game though

[valid mural]

maybe ive been watching too much civilian use only

[lethal flame]

ill bring a machinegun to a house ivasion of a family doing tax fraud with my camera off

[civic lance]

this game was never meant for people to run non lethals just to get S rank. It's not realistic

[karmic birch]

2 civilians had to die but i completed that awful hospital death trap

[green sable]

Is the silencer a must take on the M14?

[nimble prawn]

M249 in ready or not when?

[valid mural]

well if you care for your hearing then yes

[lethal flame]

no only put suppersor on ur secondary

[karmic birch]

now i have the port to overcome and 3 letter triad + dorms and then ive completed the game fully

[green sable]

I am talking about the rifle btw. The DMR

[lethal flame]

ik i said no.

[viral knot]

why

[north kraken]

Is from house to home achievement bugged for anyone else?

[civic lance]

The M14 would be more bragging rights only that you were able to do all missions with that shitty CQB gun

[slim fern]

They should really add replays to consoles so that they can get to enjoy the funky physics and clanky UI while making edits

[amber dock]

In what way?

[green sable]

Why? I mean i thought it only has + and better recoil when taking the suppressor

[north kraken]

I’m stuck at 42% on it did all the missions on s rank and did each level specific achievement

[amber dock]

You’re on console?

[north kraken]

Yes I am

[amber dock]

Then it might be bugged then cause I saw someone else have that issue

[viral knot]

TOC just gave my team an entire speech of how shit we did 🥀

[nimble prawn]

Tryna find a good lobby, but I might just go play elden ring at this point tbh

[north kraken]

Alright where can I report it at

[valid mural]

funny enough

i once gotten muted from a Star rail Server for sharing a RON screenshot

[idle steppe]

what was the screenshot of

[valid mural]

pre update screenshot of a suspect losing his face by my italian deathstick

[idle steppe]

perhaps it was deserved but it was still wicked

[stable sinew]

Does anyone know the gun with highest cal/stopping power?

[old topaz]

i hop on cod when i get fraustrated with RoN

[idle steppe]

Think its the new pistol (MKV), or any 762 rifle

the new pistol one taps even level 4 armor even on hard with AP

and 762 rifles 1 tap most enemies on standard

[stark horizon]

I picked the flash grenade launcher with 2 mags but the second mag only has 2/6 nades loaded, is this intentional or a bug?

[crude prism]

With the M32A1, you get 6 rounds for free, and each extra shot after that is 1 point

[shy flame]

ohhhh my god i just fucking got bullshitted

[viral knot]

What

[sturdy cipher]

can anyone help me with greased palms with ai?

[viral knot]

Elaborate

[sturdy cipher]

i want to finish greased palms without dying or my ai dying. seems incredibly hard 😄

[viral knot]

I got no tips

[sturdy cipher]

😐

[timber fjord]

is steel armor better than ceramic armor since the new update??

[timber fjord]

Try to go around the main warehouse and start all the way from the back, you can clear the first 2 small "houses" then go around the whole warehouse and start from the back, that was what worked for me in my S rank run

[sturdy cipher]

thanks

[radiant crypt]

If I host a multiplayer game while using mods, will my friend be able to play with the mods of the host if they don't have my mods in their game files? I am using "Gunfighter" and "Ready Or Not Realistic FEAR Overhaul".

[twilit mulch]

yes, he will

[sand hull]

i shot a person

[sturdy cipher]

that worked in quick. thanks!

[timber fjord]

You're welcome

[sand hull]

do the suspects take hostages on Leviathan?

[amber dock]

Suspects can on all maps

[timber fjord]

i just fucking love it when suspects dont get affected by gas

[sand hull]

yeah that is fair, im guessing it’s just more likely on certain maps?

cuz there were a few maps that i didn’t get a single hostage taken, and then theres maps like lawmaker where opening a door lead to 3 hostages being taken

[timber fjord]

if you the suspects get stressed enough they will take hostages. But there are maps where you start with the suspects already stressed. That's where the intimidator trait doesnt work

[amber dock]

Some maps have that behaviour more then others yeah

[timber fjord]

Is there a way i can make it so that it says my ranking instead of "unresolved". Like the ranking i had before the update

[amber dock]

No you gotta wait for devs to fix it

[timber fjord]

Ah

[runic delta]

hey, anyone who's done the whole "beat iron man without dying or losing a single officer", i assume it doesn't matter what score you get as long as you soft complete the mission?

[deft star]

did the devs talk about the graphics changes

[fervent hinge]

Yeah the score dosnt matter
I prefer to gun down most people I swe in ironman
Not worth taking people alive
You taken a hostage?
Welp I'm sorry both of you are getting gunned

[astral oyster]

Yeah score doesn't matter just complete the mission

[shy flame]

damn it one of the suspects is stuck in a sliding animation and doesnt stop so now i cant arrest him

[brave flower]

Anyone know how to get the sleeper agent achievement

[shy flame]

so much for a fucking S rank

[brave flower]

The one in 3 letter triads

[shy flame]

no i forgot the name but the beach house one with the old lady

OH WOW GREAT

NOW I GET RANDOMLY SNIPED BY A SUSPECT WHEN IVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR HIM

im so close to slaughtering this family

[runic delta]

thank you! & you mio

[brave flower]

How are u struggling with that map.

[languid creek]

I’m gonna crash out why tf can’t we restrain these people or interact with the weapons

It played fine the first few days lately it’s been terrible I have to flash my light at guns on the ground and get randoms to pick them up sometimes because I can’t

And it has nothing to do with interacting with an objective like it says it known issues… literally the first fucking guy of the map and I can’t restrain him

[shy flame]

dude this suspect wasnt in the map and i looked for him not a shot even when i was in spots they could easily spot me nothing but then i am just doing the searches he suddenly spawns my ai doesnt react and i get popped this was after the suspect glitched doing a sliding animation

[stable sinew]

what's the best strat for solo S?

it doesn't make sense that i shoot them in a shoulder and that somehow has no impact on whether they put down their weapons, they dont even flinch

then when i use the pepperball launcher, sometimes nothing happens and you gotta hit it in the right head area for it to work

and then they still move and shoot so idk anymore

[amber dock]

Beanbag or grenade launcher is better

[stable sinew]

is grenade launcher meant to explode on impact?

[amber dock]

Yes that’s what a launcher does

[stable sinew]

it would be alot easier to do S and how it should be using like a multi-explode flashbang

but thats for supporter edition only

[amber dock]

You on console?

[stable sinew]

pc

[amber dock]

Then the launcher is available for you

It’s in primary weapons launcher

Supporter edition has one AR and 2 skins that’s it

[stable sinew]

yeah i tried it but am i meant to just flash every room?

[amber dock]

The ar isn’t that good

No you flash at suspects you see

[stable sinew]

but then i can only carry 15 grenades max

[amber dock]

You playing full solo?

[stable sinew]

with stab vest

yeah solo

[amber dock]

One grenade launcher loader contains 6 round

[stable sinew]

Yeah but you need to select the ammo right and you can carry max 15 grenades

Your saying just flash everyone but then sometimes you need more flashes because the room is wide and you'll get shot

[quick owl]

Where the is the bugfix update wasnt it thid weekend?

[amber dock]

You don’t just flash Willy nilly

You only shot one round into a suspect you see

If you can carry 15 loaders of the launcher that’s 15x6

That’s a lot of ammo

[stable sinew]

No it isnt

Isn't 15 as in 15 individual grenades

Not 15 grenade wheels?

[amber dock]

What no

[quick owl]

Just carry hand flash grenades, open rooms, dont enter, if a suspect gets frisky or agro then flash

Its 15 individual grenades

[amber dock]

You’re confusing with the tactical launchers

[stable sinew]

Oh lmao I thought it was 15 grenades individually like the tactical launchers

[amber dock]

I’m talking about the rotary launcher

[quick owl]

The rotary launcher is also individual loads

[stable sinew]

The rotary launcher always showed 3 mags max though, I'll look into that more, that makes more sense

[amber dock]

Still is more ammo then the tactical launcher

Granted idk the exact details on how the ammo distribution works for it

But you can modify it to have more then tac launchers

[quick owl]

If you carry 6 grenades with the rotary launcher then you only get the 6 already loaded

Might aswell carry the single launcher with 4 and carry extra handheld flashes

Handhel flashes are still really useful

[amber dock]

Until you get caught with one in your hand and you get lit up

[quick owl]

Hence why you got a stack

Or would have a stack if the AI SWAT didnt get lobotomized

[noble pasture]

Its in American spirit that every suspect has a full auto AR

[viral flax]

quick question ive had the game for quite some time and ive seen some recent footage with new loadouts and a new gas mask type, are those mods or how do you access it base game? I only got one type

[amber dock]

No there’s different variants of the gas masks in vanilla Ron

You have to go to customisation to see what they look like

[noble pasture]

There is a Marshall and a '99 gas mask. There are also 3 only for supporters, they stopped selling those like 2 years ago

[wide verge]

the suspect on Narcos are some of the toughest Ive encountered. Crazy bastards

[stable sinew]

I've done some research and so you get 6 grenades by default with the gun mag and then any extra grenades comes from the inventory screen

[amber dock]

Not anymore

Nvm

Forget what I said

[stable sinew]

But its not 1 rotary wheel, its 1 grenade

[amber dock]

There is one gas mask that used to be supporter exclusive but it got changed to for everyone

But I forgot the tinted ones are SE

[viral flax]

ah all right thanks

[viral flax]

theres only one option and no variants i can choose between

[wide verge]

One thing I found out is DO NOT reload the new launcher if there are grenades left, you drop all the unused functional grenades

[viral flax]

cant send screenshots on here but theres only one unlike clothing where i can see equipment

ah i see the variants now thank you

[noble pasture]

Marshall Gas Mask is generally best

[placid oasis]

Gas sucks in site

[noble pasture]

Nvg goggles dont clip into the glass

[placid oasis]

Use flash launcher instead

NVG is unnessecary

[viral flax]

bro has not played twisted nerve

[placid oasis]

I've done all levels in S rank

Flashlights are needed if you would like to play such kind of a map

[viral flax]

no need to brag buddy i have as well theres not just one way to complete a level so going out and saying nvg is usless is quite a broad statement

that's like saying a gun is just an accessory "use your fists instead"

[sweet fox]

is there a new issue the now frend cant join me on cross play

nm#

[fervent hinge]

Both have diffeent vibes ngl
Flash light feels more scary to use
Nvg feels cooler to use

[placid oasis]

lol suggestion

[viral flax]

exactly

neither is better nor worse its situational

[placid oasis]

Just use flaslight and flash googles, thats all you need to complete a level in S

[viral flax]

fix is being worked on

[placid oasis]

At least for those 2 spesific slots

[sweet fox]

ye ye issuse fixed it self now

[viral flax]

nobody said s rank, your claim is flat out nvgs are unnecessary and that's simply not true

[placid oasis]

S rank is the rank you get when you complete a level at its finest

[stray forge]

Can anyone game share on Xbox s

[placid oasis]

So to complete a level on its finest easily, you should get the right equipments

[amber dock]

No and please don't ask.

[placid oasis]

And the right equipment is flashlight

[brave flower]

Nvgs don’t hold a slot why not use em. I even use ir lasers in maps like twisted nerve and pass the level anyways.

[placid oasis]

Therefore, you should use flashlight if you would like to complete a level at its finest

[viral flax]

like i said you said flat out, implying everything

[fervent hinge]

Do they mean like ps5 activation?

[fervent hinge]

Jubge where did you hide judge

[viral flax]

like scimby said above it depends how you play and its situational and nobody said anything about having to do S rank so it depends how you play and saying a tool is usless ist just wrong

[placid oasis]

.

[fervent hinge]

You can s rank the map without even the nvg and flash light smh

[viral flax]

I'm his brother hes doing pretty well actually just taking a break from the trauma inducing Voll basement

[placid oasis]

Thats also true, but i said "to complete a level on its finest easily"

[amber dock]

they want someone to share the game for them because they can't buy it or whatever

[fervent hinge]

My judge didn't got any trauma bcs he only saw pics of dolls

[placid oasis]

i'm not saying nvgs is not fun, it's unnessecary

[brave flower]

U can take any equipment gng. There’s no meta for ready or not just roll with what u want and most the time you’ll pass.

[viral flax]

look man i aint gonna argue with you no more you can have your opinion if you wana go perfectionist i frankly dont give a shit but you cant go around saying equipment is useless when its a situational arena

[fervent hinge]

Just use echolocation god

[placid oasis]

There are no situations you need to use nvgs

[viral flax]

nah hes done it like 1000 times after seeing the barrels that many times it sneaks up on you psycologically

[placid oasis]

I also would not like to argue about that kind of a topic

[fervent hinge]

Breaking bad reference

[viral flax]

JESSE WE NEED TO BREAK INTO THE VOLL HOUSE TO GET THE ACID FOR THE METH!

[fervent hinge]

I like to be able to use laser
And there is also ir lasers which is very helpful with nvg

[brave flower]

That’s like saying i use the sa 58 for all my runs cuz it’s the most viable gun. Where’s the fun in that, don’t go always looking for the most viable and optimal route all the time. Plus nvgs and flashlights are legit the same stuff.

[viral flax]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING EXACTLY DUDE, thanks for backing me up

[brave flower]

I prefer nvgs because they don’t hold a attachment slot so I can put a laser and have better aiming when canted. Maybe u think differently

[placid oasis]

👍

[placid oasis]

👍

[viral flax]

it's all about preference and you can just say flat out one thing is not needed or useless just cause you think otherwise

[placid oasis]

👌

[tidal crown]

When are the devs releasing this bug fix update

[viral flax]

don't know looking really forward for the unresolved fix im scared to play fearing ittl reset my progress

[brave flower]

Fr they said this weekend or middle of next week.

[viral flax]

well thats good to know

[brave flower]

I was hoping it’s this weekend

[viral flax]

let's see what happens i guess

[glad tendon]

Could someone please enlighten me on what the exact requirements for "Way Out West" are? I have been only using the revolver as a weapon without switching to anything else (except from my primary to it at the start bc I have to) but I still haven't gotten the achievement after multiple attempts.

[viral flax]

I heard complaints about this from other people i think your doing it right its just the games broken so i dont know if its possible right now but i could be wrong

[grand pasture]

Is it possible to do ironman mode without officers

[brave flower]

Do not use any tacticals like a shield, grenades, mirror gun and allat. Dont use attachments too I read on Reddit that lasers and the snub attachment prevents u from getting. Not sure if it’s true tho.

[brave flower]

U can just tell em to hold in spawn

[wide verge]

which maps have armored suspects?

[glad tendon]

Done all of that and still haven't gotten it

[amber dock]

You need C grade minimum

[brave flower]

Weird what grade did u get

[glad tendon]

Gotten A's

[amber dock]

@jolly verge need your help man.

[brave flower]

U playing with friends?

[glad tendon]

No

Just the Ai

[brave flower]

Idk I got it first try with ai doing most the work for me

[glad tendon]

Do they need to be using the revolver too?

[glad tendon]

That's what I'm trying to do too

[brave flower]

Idk but I think I gave em revolvers only

[amber dock]

Ai can use whatever except shield I believe

And no lock picks either

[brave flower]

Try giving em revolvers only idk if it’ll work cuz I got some time ago

[glad tendon]

That must be it

[amber dock]

Just kick doors and or use Ai to breach for you

[glad tendon]

I have two of them running shields

[tidal crown]

Wdym progress

[neon monolith]

It would be nice if we can get more cosmetics or content before 2026

[tidal crown]

Like all ur equipment?

[brave flower]

There’s a new dlc coming 2026

[neon monolith]

Ik that’s so far away once you got every watch in the game game is done

[brave flower]

He means he’s scared it’ll bug out like it did in new update when all missions said unresolved but it’s only a patch not a major update

[brave flower]

Did u s rank everything and get all achievements?

[neon monolith]

Yup

[viral flax]

the unresolved issue for me its stuck with everying reset but its a common issue

[neon monolith]

That’s my point once you s everything get every achievement game is done they need to add more content

[brave flower]

Yeah maybe with the new playerbase increase they’ll add more content

[neon monolith]

I mean I hope so because game is gonna die fast if they don’t add more cosmetics or something

Pretty much a player that 100% the game just is looking forward too helping out others get s rank on everything I’m sorry but compared too games like outlast trials you guys can add more cosmetics and content for us at least

[stable sinew]

Cosmetics are nice and I'd want more but I feel like the type of content they're dropping is subpar

Even the two recent DLCs have such bad reviews and I didn't know why but after I bought them, I now know why

Can't they just make a simple normal house raid and then just create situations around it? Hitman works like that and they're massively successful with it

[languid creek]

They’re solid DLCs I just wish we got something for S ranking them

The first DLC is pretty easy but the second one is rough

Feels like they made the first one for people who want to clear small buildings, and the second for people who want war

[stable sinew]

Small buildings? They made a whole ass mansion

And a full neighbourhood

[languid creek]

I just know my rankings are much better on the first DLC compared to the second lol

[stable sinew]

And a full apartment block, my perfect idea of a map is the streamer map but only strictly one apartment

[native lion]

It gave iranian embassy vibes, loved to cosplay SAS on that mission

[stable sinew]

It does give a SAS vibe especially with the oil rig but I want the SWAT element which SWAT 4 did really well

I wanna like pull a house door out with a SWAT vehicle and raid the place and arrest like 4 suspects

[native lion]

a year ago i went literally crazy looking for a mission on RoN that i remembered just to realize it was from SWAT 4 😭😭

[languid creek]

They really just need more variety for each mission or like you said situations/escalations from hitman. It can’t be that hard to have some extra variations of missions added once you complete the original one.

[stable sinew]

Not raid a big oil rig in a massive national vibe mission which happens like once every 20 years

The missions they make is like osama bin laden vibe which is like worldwide news

[shy flame]

this mission fucking sucked so many enemies and such a wide space so my teammates miss everything but not the enemies they are pinpoint

[native lion]

That's why i love elephant, lots of tension and CQB but one mag is enough

[stable sinew]

I just really don't like massive maps, like even the auto dealership, that's so big dude it takes so long

[jade sparrow]

Does Rust Belt not have traps? Cause I’m sure I’ve seen tripwires on that map but I’m seeing from a trustworthy source that that map has no modifiers

[native lion]

it doesn't make any favor to it that i have to acquire a target trough all the visual noise from maps like greased palms but the ai will never have trouble with that

[fervent hinge]

Wish we got more active shooter maps
Makes you play the game much more diffrent than usual

[native lion]

they see one pixel of you from 50m away

[jade sparrow]

Did they remove them?

[languid creek]

Pretty sure I just kick down every door with no consequences

[shy flame]

1 of my officers died and another is incapped from the stupid post office mission i cant even tell the correct way to approach it, it just feels like its built so the AI dies because they cant hit idc im not trying S rank for that again

[native lion]

i feel like they were planned for some missions but they backed up on it? like Neon Tomb says active shooters but there's none of them gameplay wise.

[languid creek]

Greased palms sucks. I’ve only gotten close to S ranking it with friends but we lost because the last suspect couldn’t be interacted with other than killing him

[jade sparrow]

Just have been removed then cause I’m completely certain there were and I died a couple times to them, at least before the update lol
Maybe it’s just me making things up but I am completely sure I have memories of checking every door and disabling tripwires on that map lol

[fervent hinge]

Neon tomb would make so much sense cus why would they just not kill the civi?
Kinda make sense in relapse to not give their identity away

[noble badger]

i hate valley of the dolls S rank. i did it, but i hate it

[languid creek]

It’s a walk in the park compared to later missions

[noble badger]

hell nah, the outside area is bullshi, there is always 5 guards that insta headshot you through 3 windows

[native lion]

I feel like there are lot of features that are half baked with suspect behavior, they could conceal the weapons on disguised suspects so it isn't blatantly obvious in relapse, thay way you can't ignore any contact. Or add that same concealed suspects to elephant since they're all teenagers and it would be difficult to tell them apart

[wraith gale]

valley of the dolls F rank is honestly better

[final mantle]

Any advise on S ranking brisa cove?

[noble badger]

agreed i was surprised when i got an F rank i thought i did it right 💔

[languid creek]

It’s pretty manageable if you save the outside/basement for last and don’t stick your face in the windows

[wraith gale]

i just like killing pe-

[noble badger]

i did it with no swat, the outside is borderline impossible and its based on luck wether or not the AI one shots you with a wallbang

[languid creek]

Are you playing with people or AI

[final mantle]

AI

[noble badger]

the whole map is easy until you get to those 5 guards that are huddled in a corner outside and you cant do anything because you cant even get close to them

[shy flame]

bro its such a confusing map and i feel like even if i did know it the last suspect is just gonna be off somewhere hella random and then the moment i turn it even if i check if hes there boom im popped

[languid creek]

Check ever door for a trap before you let the team go in. I like to clear the middle room then go back out to the main hall and do a lap around to all the rooms.

[wraith gale]

greased palms is an amazing map wdym

[noble badger]

greased palms s rank was 10 times easier than valley of dolls

[final mantle]

Oh lord I forgot brisa is the one full with booby traps

[languid creek]

This is rage bait

[noble badger]

or at least way less luck based

[languid creek]

More rage bait

[noble badger]

alright then. show me how you s rank with no swat

[wraith gale]

its really not that hard with the rotary flash launcher

[jade sparrow]

Yeah I can confirm I was looking at my gameplay of Rust Belt I made circa a year ago and it did have tripwires, did they remove them or are they still there on the map?

[noble badger]

best bet is you can peek a door
it wont trigger the bomb

[languid creek]

It’s much easier than that back warehouse room in grease palms

[native lion]

I thing lots of maps had traps and now they don't anymore, that or I'm just traumatized

[noble badger]

grease palms was genuinely easy but just a bit of luck with the outside setup. all you do is get one guy to surrender then tell him to come to you

[wraith gale]

nobody is ragebaiting you dawg

[languid creek]

easy to complete, frustrating to S rank

[noble badger]

i S ranked it solo with no swat on my 3rd time

[languid creek]

I also haven’t used the rotary flash thing

[noble badger]

1st time i shot at a knee with beanbag and killed someone apparently, second time i failed at outside, 3rd time i did it

[wraith gale]

ive beat greased palms S rank, without armor, on iron man

its easy once youve been playing for almost 5 years

[languid creek]

I mean yeah it’s not impossible. I just have bias since the game screwed me with a suspect that can’t be interacted with

[noble badger]

if you know what youre doing its not that hard. though they can catch you offguard

but on valley of dolls the guards go in that corner with the stage and just snipe you through all the windows and hedges

[stable sinew]

I liked the original idea they added where they gave you a map then you could choose gamemodes/situations and every map was used multiple times. That's what hitman does and I don't see why they can't do that here.
Make a normal suburban house map, 4 houses, then do different situations. One situation, kidnapping, second situation, different house in same map, house fire/arson with armed hooligans, then base them on actual crimes that happened.

That's way better for devs AND players

[languid creek]

The first few days the game was fine but lately I’m encountering suspects that can’t be interacted with or restrained, weapons that can’t be picked up. Very frustrating they need to fix it asap

[stable sinew]

Oil rig, what else are you going to have other than a full SAS raid? There's nothing else that happens

[noble badger]

i think they scrapped that because thinking about it, it would be the same thing. Just arrest them and move on

[stable sinew]

That's the whole point of the game though, they're turning this into SAS simulator

[jade sparrow]

So did they or did they not remove the tripwires from Rust Belt? 🤔

[native lion]

i think it made it difficult to keep the story that they're trying to tell, even if it's not that deep. I don't see why quick play couldn't use this tho

[glad tendon]

I just got it and yes, the AI shields were the issue. It doesn't really make sense though because the achievement's description doesn't mention anything about that.

[languid creek]

Mandela effect. In your universe there was, in mine, they were never there.

[stable sinew]

I'd love a way in-depth focus on suspects and how they act, like how they just added the suspects that grab civilians, or F themselves, or just do radical movements, I think that'd be way more fun than just adding more suspects, and making bigger more edgy, more gruesome maps that they've had to retract anyway to publish the game on console

[wraith gale]

that was back before commander mode iirc. with commander mode added, it made the maps that had more than 1 mode make 0 sense lore wise.

[jade sparrow]

Just watched a video of me playing un modded Ron and at some point I’m disabling a tripwire so yeah I can confirm if not now there were traps then lol

[native lion]

i miss the replayability that it offered tho. I'd happily ditch the lore to play Sins of the father with variations

Different suspects, bombs, focus on hostages, etc

[final mantle]

Would yall recommend the pepperball gun or the beanbag for brisa cove?

[wraith gale]

i would throw all the lore away to have an OG map pack

[stable sinew]

That whole mechanic where suspects put down their weapons and the whole surprise aspect, that really would impact how you approach everything, flash, more likely to put down gun, instigate a firefight, more likely to fight back and shoot and not give up, surprises like suspect goes back into home but grabs gun, runs out of back and shoots you, that introduces way more variety

[languid creek]

It’s also not that hard to add a disclaimer that says this variation of the mission is not cannon

[jade sparrow]

Bean Cove for Brisa Bag

[wraith gale]

more work for the devs

[native lion]

i would throw leviathan into the sun for a remake of swat 4 😭

[languid creek]

There’s probably 20 people in this discord that would do that for free or type up alternative storylines

[wraith gale]

more work for the devs

[final mantle]

Do the people in there carry massive amounts of beans?

[wraith gale]

yes, humongous amounts of heizen baked beans

[languid creek]

You right let’s just close the company down so they don’t have to do anything other than cocaine and hookers

[wraith gale]

more work for the devs

[noble badger]

i like beanbag over pepperball just because if a suspect wants to be the hero and rush me i can shut it down quickly

with pepperball it feels like im kindly asking them to put down the gun in hopes of not mowing me down

[lethal void]

Too bad there's no way to revert back to the other versions, kinda wanted to give a few modded maps a try before the console update

[static root]

can someone help me s rank valley of the dolls? i really want that hawaiian shirt but i cant find anyone to help me play

[shy flame]

love when my idiot AI teammate decides to make an arrest right next to a window and even better instead of him doing it with his back turned towards us where its safe he rubs his ass on the window and gets killed

[final mantle]

The stupid ghilie suit man got glitched in a vent

[ripe ice]

just shoot him a bit, not enough to kill him but enough to where he’s incapacitated

[final mantle]

I tried mag dumping him, the bastard refuses to stop crawling

[ripe ice]

damn

I had that glitch too but all i had to do was shoot him a couple of times and that seemed to fix it for me

[static root]

can someone help me s rank valley of the dolls? i really want that hawaiian shirt but i cant find anyone to help me play

please?

[final mantle]

3 runs, the bastard still cant be unglitched

[static root]

someone please

[final mantle]

And just as I said this the dude stood up inside the wall and shot me to death....

[static root]

can anyone on pc help me with s ranking valley of the dolls

[amber dock]

Ask in #🔎looking-for-players and be patient when asking

spamming messages for same thing won't make it happen faster

[timber fjord]

where tf is that livestream on the oil rig map

[eager goblet]

guys is light armour with ceramic for self and full heavy steel armour for AI the best option?

[near tide]

no use steel it just got a buff

[static root]

oh i didnt see that channel thx

[timber fjord]

Ofc there is one last civ HIDING ON THE WHOLE MAP OMFG

I dont have the option to search and secure for my swat

[noble badger]

welp, 1st try S rank on rust belt

[eager goblet]

I dont know the current meta I played exactly 1 year ago and I used cs gas (they told me it was not working and I switched to flashbangs) I use the pepperball gun and now I will use the new peppergun handgun and mirrorgun anymore recommendations?

[noble badger]

b e a n b a g

[eager goblet]

shotgun?

[peak coyote]

The pepper handgun is genuinely ass don't use

[near tide]

dont use the new pepperball pistol

[near tide]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1717446181#gid=1717446181

[late wasp]

dark waters and home invasion are both mixed but idk if its do to with the reviewbomb due to censorship so, are they worth it? and if so which one is better

[eager goblet]

I dont wanna use lethal I lack 2 maps from last year to get the medal of valor

[noble badger]

i like dark waters
leviathan level is one of my favorites

[timber fjord]

umm, where could that last civ on the oil rig map, searched everywhere

[peak coyote]

Both are worth if you enjoy the game, home invasion if you prefer cqb, dark waters for more prolonged engagements

[near tide]

how would we know?

[eager goblet]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media

[timber fjord]

Idk maybe there is one civ that likes to hide somewhere everytime

[eager goblet]

is this the best loadout for ai perks?

[late wasp]

dark waters feels like a UK SBS more than SWAT i thought tho

[peak coyote]

Just dump all your mags into your primary and screw your sidearm

[late wasp]

maybe im bugging but i heard theres like a cruise ship mission which is a bit weird

[late wasp]

whats leviathan?

[peak coyote]

Yeah 100 percent lol realistically SWAT wouldn't be handling allat

[timber fjord]

I DONT HAVE THE OPTION TO "SEARCH AND SECURE"WTF

[eager goblet]

I use 6/7 mags on primary and 1 on secondary for quick switchig yk

[peak coyote]

Butttt they do make for interesting missions

[peak coyote]

Oil rig

[late wasp]

how many are there and do u know the like setting of them all

[noble badger]

a map

[late wasp]

i meant setting

[peak coyote]

3

• yacht
• oil rig
• abandoned resort

[noble badger]

terrorist group on oil rig

[late wasp]

ohhh i played the abandoned resort on multiplayer

i hated it tbh it felt like cod idk how to explain it was just weird

but the other two sound cool

[peak coyote]

Aesthetically very cool map but can be difficult

[eager goblet]

I lack only 1 watch and all of my maps are "unresolved" but ı can play all maps

[late wasp]

did u redownload?

[worn dirge]

Which keybutton is for dropkicking? I can't find it

[grand pasture]

Me and my friend just did completed hide and seek perfectly no mistakes at all but we got a c??

[late wasp]

same happened to me when i redownloaded

[dapper hemlock]

Man that’s so incredibly gassy

[late wasp]

did u kill? not find evidence?

[grand pasture]

Killed

[late wasp]

yeah thats why

[amber dock]

Perfectly means no one died

[grand pasture]

Every thing else perfect

[peak coyote]

You probably missed softs and killed

[dapper hemlock]

It was a perfect run just killed suspects,

[late wasp]

youre swat you know not seal team 6

[amber dock]

killing suspects is far from perfect

[late wasp]

remember your ROI like what TOC says

[grand pasture]

It should have been an A

[eager goblet]

yeah I played exactly 1 year ago I lack 2 maps for the medal of valor but cant remember 1 map so much improvements to the game I love it so much rn the new animations and enviorement and stuff

[dapper hemlock]

No it auto ended the mission we had everything we were trying for an A not an S

[timber fjord]

To get S rank you have to secure every suspect without killing any one of them, also have to find soft objectives and evidence

[peak coyote]

There's like 20 suspects on that map so you lose like 600 or more points if you kill everyone

[dapper hemlock]

We weren’t trying to get an S

[grand pasture]

All evidence all softs all suspects we weren't going for s just A

How was it a c

[late wasp]

if you kill

its that simple lol you are LEO not military, your role is to arrest all suspects

[peak coyote]

It's 35 points alive and 5 dead so

[north kraken]

Friendly fire?

[dapper hemlock]

I’m military

[grand pasture]

How was it not even a b

[eager goblet]

can you check #🎬ron-clips-and-media is this the best perks loadout and someone told me to use steel armour instead of ceramic and should I use light armour with steel ceramic or heavy armour? I use steel and full body for the bots

[dapper hemlock]

No

[grand pasture]

If we didn't kill it would have been S

So how was it a C

I've done worse and gotten higher grade

[late wasp]

bro im telling u the beanbag shotgun is my favourite non lethal