👮ron-discussion

[hexed escarp]

one dead kid's trash is another swat officer's treasure fr

[toxic harness]

Yeah I mostly use the Los Muetros bracelet, especially with the Reaper hanging out

[buoyant pecan]

I don’t think it’s meant to be dead kids
Just a reminder for Judge to keep his kids close after witnessing that horror
But we also don’t know if Judge is supposed to have kids for real

[hexed escarp]

its like confirmed lore he has a wife and 3 kids iirc

how many of yall rock the gps thing or tactical map

[buoyant pecan]

That’s why I think he was so disturbed by that sight in Hide & Seek
Odd how he had no reaction to Valley tho

[fiery spruce]

He wasn't disturbed, he continued the mission?

[hexed escarp]

i think hide & seek is more just bc he got straight up told to just break their usual code of conduct and leave the ladies in the container for FISA to do whatever with

[fiery spruce]

But hide and seek was a joint mission, they wouldn't budge out of nowhere it would be severily suspicious. Check the mission details

[desert island]

hes a sleeper agent working for usia so its normal for him to hate fisa

[buoyant pecan]

He had an emotional reaction before that tho
The way he paused and his tone of voice when he said “we have a container full of women…”

[hexed escarp]

was his tone different??? i remember it being like, same as usual judge

[toxic harness]

When it comes to mission dates, he would first saw a child in a crime scene in Twisted Nerve (idk about Hunger Strike and Stolen Valor). But then would have to deal Elephant first way before raiding the streamer

[buoyant pecan]

I always thought he sounded genuinely bothered

[hexed escarp]

idk to me judge always sounds the same

[fiery spruce]

Yeah I was gonna say that, no matter what he sees he sounds the same.

[desert island]

judge cares about stuff that gets him the most points

[buoyant pecan]

There was also a lot of anger in his voice when he said “….understood.” And “we’ll talk later.”

[hexed escarp]

judge could find a reconstructed tsar bomba in the basement of a crackhead's house and he'd just go "toc i found the thing" in his deep manly man voice

[languid creek]

Judge has been MK ultra’d

[haughty forge]

guys can, NVGS interfere with the completion of the achievements "By the Book" and "The Tactician"?

[buoyant pecan]

I dunno maybe I’m looking too much into things but that’s just how it came off to me

[desert island]

if u hear judge's talk with USIA he tells them fuck u

[potent crystal]

"TOC this is entry; Bagging."

[hexed escarp]

"uhhh roger that team"

[desert island]

cuz USIA is risking his points

[buoyant pecan]

Oh yea I remember that lol

[frigid sparrow]

well i played the update 😂 any mods want to expain why the game i payed for feels like crap and my S+ status on missions has gone?

[hexed escarp]

paid* + the game feels like pre-update imo, and the mission data got wiped by the update

also S+ rank isnt a thing??? lol

[buoyant pecan]

Anyone have the full screenshot of that convo between Judge and the USIA dude it’s hard to read in-game

[rocky plover]

In addition to this, we're finalizing another hotfix and targeting a fix for:

Fixing legacy save file scores not appearing on the mission selection screen (absolutely no data has been lost unless a player completely deleted their save data manually.)

[stoic thistle]

A nuke would probably reduce Los Suenos' crime rate.

[rocky plover]

next hotfix ^^

[hexed escarp]

would honestly probably be the best ending for los suenos

[buoyant pecan]

It would reduce a lot of things

[frigid sparrow]

thought so 😂

[stoic thistle]

Those city hall attackers weren't so bad after all.

[frigid sparrow]

feels like im playing on a ps5 😂

[hexed escarp]

they were just trying to save us from what was to come fr

[fiery spruce]

r u not?

[frigid sparrow]

"but we made the game family friendly" 😢

[hexed escarp]

literally never was the intention or true but whatever 🥀

[toxic harness]

Does Judge have game?

[hexed escarp]

i'd say so yeah

[delicate grail]

I feel like people who struggle at this game dont know the simple combination of C2 and Flashbang
you can clear most rooms easy like that
combine with a shield too for maximum cleanness

[shy shell]

Hard mode needs some balance changes, man

[toxic harness]

Yes, when I keep dying on Twisted Nerve

[shy shell]

Ain’t no fucking way a random hoodlum with a Draco is head tapping me with a ballistic mask

[buoyant pecan]

Dammit
Got so close to a perfect score but then one of my officers just stands there and gets shot to death

[trim rain]

is standard mode the same difficulty as the normal gameplay before the update?

[wicked charm]

What’s the Soft Objective on the Spider?

[trim rain]

theres a computer

[hexed escarp]

pretty much yes, but there has been some ai changes that make it a bit harder

[wicked charm]

In the Smile room?

[hexed escarp]

like suspects almost instantly taking hostages the second you fire a single fucking shot sometimes 💔

[toxic harness]

They're all ex-usia and ex-lspd folks. That's why they can easily kill us with a shitty AK

[inland pewter]

When C2 patch I love using gas clearing

[trim rain]

i dont really know, i know its behind some curtains in one of the first rooms if you take the entrance left of the stairs that go to the roof

i think i havent played the map in a while

[whole plume]

Hmm very wierd then

[hexed escarp]

a few of the containers have crates inside that are hidden objectives, as well as the laptop in the auction room i think

the soft objective containers r the ones with spiders graffiti'd on

[wicked charm]

The one with the convo about the red head girl?

[vast folio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

...did I softlock myself? This guy keeps crawling into the vent and doesn't respond to any commands / taser.

[trim rain]

is that not an objective?

[novel forge]

Shoot him.

[toxic harness]

Just reset mission and do it again

[rocky plover]

there isn't any on The Spider

[trim rain]

i could of sworn i remembered that computer being an objective

[hexed escarp]

yeah thats a bug, you arent able to get them out at all without incapacitating them i think

[wicked charm]

Thank you

[rocky plover]

that is on valley of the dolls

[trim rain]

yeah ik i thought i remembered that computer with the weird red head girl convo being the only soft objective on the spider mb

[tidal hornet]

im new to ron whats this nexusmod stuff is it safe?

[trim rain]

yes

[hexed escarp]

nexus mods is safe yes, its just a website where you install game mods

[rocky plover]

ye just make sure it's updated to the latest patch of the game for it to work

[hexed escarp]

that too, but some mods that arent updated still work

[tidal hornet]

aha so this customization unlocked thing u just download and works everywhere or what?

[hexed escarp]

yeah, it unlocks all customization items on any mode

for multiplayer tho you need to have the same mods as everyone else or it wont let you join

[spring idol]

How do you equip your taser?

[trim rain]

yep

you dont get the achievment or anything but you can wear everything

[toxic harness]

But on console... you have to actually grind for them!

[tidal hornet]

i cant tell if you guys srs cus some people like saying "ye download it its safe" but just to troll and its a virus ur not troling right XD

[toxic harness]

MY RUINED DEV WATCH

[rocky plover]

hold 2 + scroll up or press 4 until you get the taser (for PC)

[hexed escarp]

im being 100% srs lol i have multiple mods from nexus

its one of the biggest modding sites and they check most/all mods for malware and stuff

[tidal hornet]

aight aight

[trim rain]

i have used nexusmods a lot of times, its a very popular mod downloading website and is very safe

[spring idol]

Thanks, but do you know for ps?

[tidal hornet]

thank u all 🙂

[rocky plover]

no sorry, no idea

[hexed escarp]

you're welcome

[toxic harness]

Yesterday I saw folks arguing about Nexus being liberals or something

[toxic harness]

Basically the Left side "Utility" in the wheel

[hexed escarp]

yeah, nexus has removed mods that go against like leftist stuff in games

[spring idol]

No prob, thank you. Also, I keep on dying on twisted nerve. Is there a way to complete the mission like without being one tapped by a dude on the stairway with a rifle?

[toxic harness]

To be fair, Los Sueños is very liberal so it should fit

[toxic harness]

Either shield, flashes, or get good

[rocky plover]

well big tips I can give you that transfer across all maps is, wedges can be very helpful at avoiding getting flanked & use free lean, so OP at being able to see them without them seeing you first

[wicked charm]

Hey so I assume AP on Lethal Obsession?

[hexed escarp]

AP is just the best to use for everything imo

[toxic harness]

JHP is perfectly fine. Nobody has armor

[hexed escarp]

its not that different in damage to JHP and it penetrates better

[ember cargo]

Any British based units?

[rocky plover]

yes but not 9mm this time 😉

[hexed escarp]

theres an ex-SAS guy on 3 letter triad but thats the only brit in teh entire game

[spring idol]

Anyone know how to unmute mic on ps5? I played with my settings and I still can’t find it

[wicked charm]

Beneli

[toxic harness]

Make sure your mic button on the ps5 is not glowing orange

[rocky plover]

ye shotguns op

[spring idol]

No I know, but people still can’t hear me

[toxic harness]

I think you're on Push to Talk

[buoyant pecan]

Most mods I see people complaining about nexus removing are dumb or racist or homophobic but I think there was genuinely no reason to remove the uncut RoN mod

[hallow iris]

Does anyone have any tips for S-tiering Valley of the Dolls? I keep getting so close, but the AI teammates screw me over. Im on PS5 and using pepperball, cs gas, and flashes with an AI shield

[spring idol]

How do I turn it to where when I unmute my mic on the controller people can hear me?

[wicked charm]

Also why does Judge not gain any stress?

Like he’s the only SWAT member to not gain stress.

[toxic harness]

How are they racist or homophobic 💀

[hexed escarp]

the anti-censorship crowd is wild because you'll just see the most open about it trans person ever fighting side by side with the world's strongest racist

[toxic harness]

MK Ultra experiment.

[wicked charm]

I’m so confused lol

[toxic harness]

The true equality

[buoyant pecan]

Like people making mods that remove all black people from Fallout 4 and stuff like that lol

[hexed escarp]

is that a thing??? i've never heard of that lol

[buoyant pecan]

What the establishment truly fears

[toxic harness]

MK Ultra is a experimental device that can make someone very focused on their jobs that they don't need to express emotion. It's also made by USIA (CIA in universe)

[buoyant pecan]

It’s wild
Not super common but it happens enough to baffle a mf

[hexed escarp]

im assuming it was removed due to stuff like the pictures of children/the kid tweaking on twisted nerve

[toxic harness]

Tf she tweakin about lol

[hexed escarp]

she used to be tweakin off the fent hard

[buoyant pecan]

Heroin

[toxic harness]

I know but I was joking

[hexed escarp]

now shes just getting a snooze

[buoyant pecan]

Mf was doing the Jane from Breaking Bad

[toxic harness]

Like tf she be tweaking about like her crayons being missing?

[shy shell]

That still doesn’t mean they should be able to head tap me when only a pixel of my head is out

[hexed escarp]

they mixed her crayons into the fent 😔

[toxic harness]

She ate the green crayon smh

[steep ridge]

there used to be a condom beside the girl in tn too but the dweebs in gen dont talk about it

[toxic harness]

wait what?

[steep ridge]

pre 1.0 i believe

[delicate grail]

also yall
I got the Developers Ruined Watch
feels good

[hexed escarp]

i've heard of that but i've never bothered to look for it myself in the room nor did i see it on any of my runs so it doesnt matter that much to me (the condom)

[toxic harness]

I would be the happiest man if I can get it

But I'm still ass at the game, despite finishing Commander Mode and got some Hard S Ranks

[drifting crypt]

Why don't c2 work on doors in multiplayer

[hexed escarp]

quit out of the game (alt f4) as soon as oyu die and you wont lose your ironman run

[bitter birch]

I died on Ironman mode yet I still respawned in the headquarters with my current progress. I thought it was supposed to reset

[delicate grail]

tbh the buggy AI and the huge maps are the bigger issue

@toxic harness
2 things to win
C2 then Flash
clears every room easy
also shields

[delicate grail]

youre not in Ironman mode

[toxic harness]

Imagine the Ironman mode was off the whole time

[bitter birch]

When creating a new save I clicked "Ironman mode" and clicked enable

So it's on

[toxic harness]

Gas is broken

[hexed escarp]

theres a problem with ironman mode just not enabling to my knowledge

[bitter birch]

Ok

[hexed escarp]

c2 is the door explosion charge CS is gas

[delicate grail]

yeah you're not
trust me same thing happened to me @bitter birch
its not

@hexed escarp you have to enable it during difficulty selection
I tested it

[hexed escarp]

the devs r prob working on fixing it in the next hotfix

[bitter birch]

I did that

[toxic harness]

I may have delyxiah

[hexed escarp]

i made the same mistake befdore too tbh 💔

[bitter birch]

So after enabling Ironman then when selecting hard mode I have to do it again or what

[delicate grail]

if there is no skull on your save file it's not on

@bitter birch
and I mean you enable it when the screen tells you to choose casual standard or hard
it won't show but that's where you do it
@bitter birch

[bitter birch]

Okay thanks I'll try when I get back home

[delicate grail]

after you start it
leave to main menu
if it has a skull on your save its good

[bitter birch]

Ok

[alpine meteor]

I'm sorry how do you open up epic integration on pc in the game to add someone on pc?

For example if you want to add a ps5 player

[sleek lark]

Shift and F3 if you have it linked, if it isn't liked it should be at the bottom of the first settings screen to link your epic account

[alpine meteor]

Thank you

[sleek lark]

[rain gale]

will we ever get mods on console?

[languid creek]

If we do it won’t be for a long long time

Probably see gta 6 before that happens

[thorny shuttle]

It's extremely unlikely, especially for PlayStation as they're very stingy with letting games have mods especially ones that add outside textures

[rain gale]

i aint stupid

[rain gale]

perhaps not too unlikely since arma reforger has mods now and dayz is also speculated to receive mods

[spiral onyx]

tbh, the hard mode is the dumbest thing i've ever seen lmao

[thorny shuttle]

If they do it'd be cool but from my experience it almost never happens, Insurgency Sandstorm was supposed to have mod support on console and that never happened sadly

[desert island]

hardmode
is hard
pls fix

[toxic harness]

Never knew about this 🤯

[spiral onyx]

dumbest is not necessary means 'hard'

[rain gale]

tbh the game is good as it is, but maybe there could be some more stuff like different armor or clothing from different countries like GSG9 or Gendarmerie

[desert island]

sure

[spiral onyx]

i've just finished it and hardmode is hard only because ennemy don't want to live anymore lmao

[desert island]

they react faster and actually do stuff with their reaction

also wat is the gendamerie weapons the FAMAS?

[spiral onyx]

yes

[rain gale]

they use HK Guns, also FAMAS and P90

[wicked charm]

Any Soft Objectives for Lethal Obession?

[desert island]

no

[rain gale]

HK416, Famas, MP5, P90 as far as I know

[shy tulip]

I can think of at least one

[mortal burrow]

I'm on the Neon Tomb now💀

[rain gale]

in the first room before the overhead projector there are some files

[wicked charm]

Also just knocked the Ghillie guy on his ass on the basement door with a C2 charge it was perfect lol

[desert island]

yeah u guys right the federal files

[wicked charm]

What’s the “first” room?

[mortal burrow]

That's the guy u're supposed to arrest lol 😂

[wicked charm]

I did. He’s not dead lol

[spice idol]

Hard mode revitalized the game for me, after 100+ hours it feels like I’m brand new to the game again

[desert island]

theres a bunch of files in the room near the projector playing some videos

[rain gale]

up the stairs when you enter from the basement in the door to the right

[spice idol]

I love actually being scared and not always feeling in control anymore. I think hard mode is for all the people who have been playing for years and got super used to the game

[fluid glade]

What is better? 870 or Supernova?

[wicked charm]

Beneli

[rain gale]

1301

[desert island]

if u played standard mode with the new m32flash, mkv, and steelarmor buffs its pretty much a joke

u can 1 shot everyone, and take 12 shots without dying and they miss more and shoot slower

and dont even shoot

[wicked charm]

Thank you.

[toxic harness]

Search Government Files. That's all

[rain gale]

found them?

[toxic harness]

His name is Gerold. Remember that name

[wicked charm]

Yup thank you!

[fluid glade]

1301 doesnt have a pump so it doesnt look cool enough

[wicked charm]

I did notice Mindjot written on one of the boxes so is that connected to the ring?

[desert island]

maybe but mindjot is a data storage company

[toxic harness]

I guess

[haughty forge]

even tho the community asked for a difficulty revision, i think its over the top in certain missions like Greased Palms, Relapse And Sinuous Trail ( I managed to complete Mindjot tho ) LIKE CMON NOW THE SWAT AI IS BUGGIER THAN EVER AND THEY DONT EVEN USE FULL AUTO MODE meanwhile suspects see u b4 u see them and they start mowing u and swat team down 😭

[vale mulch]

Im pretty sure I noticed them switching fire modes

how often it’s used I can’t speak to

[empty mica]

any chance my stats will be implemented into current game? It would be nice to see all of my S ranks earned, gun stats, etc

[bleak wren]

why did the CS gas get nerfed

i miss the old CS Gas

[desert island]

supposably its a bug but prbly cuz of usage rates

[empty mica]

@bleak wren same...

sucks that I have 100+ hours and it shows 2 levels completed...
my unlocks are there, but no stats 😦

[old topaz]

that sucks

[haughty forge]

maybe with SMGs they switch fire and even then its prob close range

[north hamlet]

No way people still mad at hard mode actually being hard smh

Hope devs don’t cave in and change it

[supple raft]

We will fix that in an upcoming patch

[mellow fractal]

when is the next sale?

[sacred mantle]

hey they just made an uncensoring mod on vortex 9 minutes ago

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6209

[upbeat shore]

Vortex Nexus ☝️

[sacred mantle]

its the same thing

nexus mods with the vortex manager

[desert island]

steam and steamworkshop be like

[sacred mantle]

NEXUS**** is better

[rain sail]

can we get friendly fire for the therapist

[empty mica]

@supple raft more reason to love the game! thanks!!!

[balmy depot]

@supple raft when is the next patch coming?

[stone bay]

why would they nerf cs

[sinful zodiac]

Should I buy ready or not I’m kinda on the fence

What do y’all think about it

[jaunty horizon]

if you like coop PvE tactical shooter it's one of the best in the space, it has unusually high production value for this genre of game

[sinful zodiac]

My friend wants me to get it to play with him. I think it looks cool but my only problem is that it’s $50 for what seems pretty repetitive

[fair dove]

do you get anything for completing an ironman runthrough if an officer dies or do you have to have all officers survive

[vale mulch]

The gameplay loop is challenging snd never gets easy is what keeps the fun going.

[sinful zodiac]

What’s yall fav part about it

[vale mulch]

50$ is a steal for this game on console.

[sleek lark]

Still get an achievement for an Ironman completion

[desert island]

u get "The World" for ironman
"The Hermit" for ironman no officers death

[fair dove]

okay. Kinda bummed bc i lost an officer on greased palms and was going for the watch

[lunar vale]

Please fix the CS gas

[fair dove]

fr

[desert island]

theres a bug where u can press alt f4 when u die and reopen ur game and u get to continue ur ironman run

[fair dove]

oh well too late

[magic hatch]

im yet to manage to "accidentally" kill the FISA dude so im bummed too

I also lost a officer named me

[spice idol]

What about the more important bugs like AI surrendering but not actually being surrendered? Are you guys working on that too?

[desert island]

im friends wit 2 people who have the same name as officers its funny

AI stuck standing despite being stunned and yelled at 200 times

[magic hatch]

I DID IT I KILLED HIM

[vale mulch]

Smack with your barrel

[magic hatch]

i shot him in the head and i didnt even know he was the FISA dude

Why the hell do people complain about greased palms???? This is so easy lol

[sinful zodiac]

I just bought it

[plucky cliff]

In the fast food mission you can cook things like fries

"Yo are my fries Ready or Not???"

[zenith sinew]

“Put the fries in the bag” - some dude you arrested in the corner

[magic hatch]

cool

[magic hatch]

I'd teach you how to propery play but kinda hard when you dont have a mic

[burnt quarry]

I just found out too

[sinful zodiac]

I’m gonna hopefully play w my friend later today

[plucky cliff]

"Whu-wait a sec just finishing a order ill arrest u in a second"

[sinful zodiac]

He said he’s gonna buy it

[burnt quarry]

Where is the second Soft Objective on Hunger Strike? The Suspects Vehicle and?

[elder void]

Hey, has anyone from the Dev team addressed the issue with the downgraded graphics yet?

[jaunty horizon]

I think a core element of the challenge in greased palms is how the area is busy and difficult to read and there's always a lot of angles in a relatively open area with lots of ways for the suspects to approach you

[plucky cliff]

Its upstairs i think

[zenith sinew]

#archived-known-issues message

They are working on a fix

[magic hatch]

Fun, Let me know if you need a 3rd person, sure as hell cant talk but i can clear a room

[sinful zodiac]

Ok I will

[rustic sphinx]

How do I invite someone on steam PC to my Xbox Lobby

[elder void]

Lol, "investigating" huh? Sure it wasn't more like they thought we wouldn't notice?? 🙄

[magic hatch]

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS AI????

you SEE SOMEONE SHOOTING ME and dont do anything

[zenith sinew]

They said the update on their end was completely fine but something got messed up when it released publicly.

[magic hatch]

AND HE WAS THE LAST ONE

[vast folio]

I think the core challenge in Greased Palms is the suspect AI's ability to identify SWAT officers from pixel gaps through objects. The AI still feels extremely jarring.

[magic hatch]

thats why i have a shotgun

all of the suspects that we'rent dealt with by AI are dead

[vast folio]

They see you through a pinhole or opaque object / texture -> They start running and gunning you, hitting you even if they lose the line of sight after stepping away. Have to avoid the mail cart areas like plague.

I'm super frustrated after having played the game first time since December, lol. What happened with the AI surveys VOID posted after the release of 1.0? There have been no changes to suspect AI since then.

[magic hatch]

theyre pretty okay to me

my only problem is one guy can resits 10 SLUGS AT LIKE 3 STEPS AWAY

now half of my roster is in a intervention

[vast folio]

Yeah, that's one issue too. The suspects feel a bit robotic as they don't react to damage.

You blast their fingers off, but they can keep on shooting 😂

[magic hatch]

err

i aim for center of mass not the fingers (or the head whatever the gun picks)

[plucky cliff]

Are your teammates tablets supposed to be invisible?

[magic hatch]

multiplayer, probally, singleplayer, they dont have em

[plucky cliff]

Only in MP i see a SS in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art of a persons teammates tablet being fully rendered

[magic hatch]

Then its a graphics thing, if youre on highest settings then i dont have the slightest clue

[plucky cliff]

Im on console

[magic hatch]

Oh

[plucky cliff]

Pc players see it crystal clear, its a console problem then

[magic hatch]

Then yeah probally not supposed to render on console due to lag problems

[plucky cliff]

I see 😑

[magic hatch]

On PC you can change the graphics to whatever you need but on console you kinda cant

thats the case for a lot of games

[desert island]

nexus removed the uncensor mod again

[river basalt]

It’s literally copyright infringement and illegal not surprising that it would be removed

Just download it on Reddit

[fair dove]

Lmao how does boot polish taste

[magic hatch]

I love remembering you can cue breaching

[river basalt]

Boot for following the law lmao ??? 🤣

[sonic scaffold]

is c2 supposed to disable the traps on the other side of the doors ?

[river basalt]

It will blow them up

[magic hatch]

no

[steep ridge]

yes yes, 1984
im sure the people who manage and maintain nexus mods are involved with the government

[magic hatch]

ive lost my entre roster from that

[fair dove]

how is it copyright infringement when the game allows mods and the content was previously accessible. That's like saying any youtube video that includes the previous uncensored content is illegal lmao

[steep ridge]

it gives them an extra kick

[plucky cliff]

Nope, it sets it off instantly

[river basalt]

Don’t be to close

[noble pasture]

Got A on hospital but spent like 10 mins on searching for civilians

[river basalt]

You can shoot trip mines through the wall by the way

[noble pasture]

The wire or the bomb?

[magic hatch]

I wasnt they were

[steep ridge]

really?

[river basalt]

Videos don’t contain stolen files from the game, that’s like saying them fully copying the game wouldn’t be copyright infringement just because they used to own it stupid logic

[north hamlet]

The layout for hospital is soooo good wtf fav map now

[plucky cliff]

Dick rider dick rider dick riderrrrr

[river basalt]

The bomb

[noble pasture]

Is it on the left or right usually?

[desert island]

even if that was true nexus isnt doing that cuz of that reason

[river basalt]

Where ever the door handle is

[desert island]

nexus got bought out by private equity and r nuking mods

[river basalt]

It’s always on that side iirc

[river basalt]

They always banned mods like this wdym

[jaunty horizon]

depending on the country copyright laws can be interpreted really strict, like in Japan there's been youtuber that was arrested for uploading game footage onto youtube. but in western/US context gameplay footage isn't usually something you get arrested for

[plucky cliff]

Why cant they make the elcan and lpvo just adjust magnification? The backup sights are practically useless

[river basalt]

Unless it breaks nda of a big company

[sacred mantle]

Eh I got it before it got removed

[fair dove]

if you're really arguing that re releasing old files of a game we all bought is copyright infringement idk what to tell you

[river basalt]

Same, either way it’s on Reddit and other modding websites

[vast folio]

Another tip for opening trapped doors, you can use the breaching shotgun from a much greater distance than people assume.

One shot to partially open the door, second shot to open it fully. You can trigger door traps from comfortable distance with this method, keeping your officers arguably safer than peeking the door and disarming the trap. Make sure to command them to stand far back not to get blown up.

[river basalt]

It definitely is, most companies just don’t go after it lmao

[desert island]

they just one day decided to ban any mods that have any controversy

[plucky cliff]

If a Company removes something, its not your right to bring it back.

[river basalt]

Since around 2 years ago, the got bought out this year

[desert island]

if one day says hey the skyrim mods are fascists theyll get banned

[mystic topaz]

If you mean like fake surrender that's not a bug but a feature (the only bugged thing about it is how often it can happen now). But if you mean that suspects throw down their weapons but refuse to completly surrender then thats a bug.

[desert island]

games that dont have any controversy will have their gore and noodity mods kept intact

[jaunty horizon]

yeah uploading files yourself from a game goes under copyright infringement, but usually with game modding most companies can be pretty fair in those terms. like I don't imagine void going nuts chasing after the uncensored or not mod, I think this time it's just nexus doing nexus things

[river basalt]

Stellar blade has nudity mods kept intact

[desert island]

stellar blade is a game for gooners they dont have any activists but marvel rivals does

[magic hatch]

I SHOT HIM IN THE FUCKING HEAD WITH 4 SLUGS AND HE WAS STILL STANDING

[desert island]

u can make everyone nood in monster hunter wilds and no one says anything

[plucky cliff]

You may have missed

[magic hatch]

WHAT

[river basalt]

Also most mods aren’t even taken down for what most people think, most of the time they broke a legit rule, they just need to post the reason it was banned and they would have no problems, people always assume the worst

[magic hatch]

atp im hanging up the hat and turning in my badge and giun

[mystic topaz]

If you are playing on PC check the replay (if it was MP game)

[woven cove]

so true ngl

[river basalt]

Even for spiderman 2 you can add a mod that replaces all the lgbtq stuff with USA flags aslong as your not being overly critical in the description

[plucky cliff]

Iirc slugs have a chance to miss, or u may just have the muzzle that spreads your shots

[river basalt]

are you using the new shotgun ?

[magic hatch]

theres a new shotgun?

[desert island]

like i sed its just based on if its controversial not that it breaks a rule

[plucky cliff]

Yes magfed

[magic hatch]

i was using the one with the flashlight

[stoic thistle]

Everyone loves a good scandal.

[river basalt]

The one with extended mag

[desert island]

they just dont want any heat

if they get any heat theyll get rid of it no questions asked

[mystic topaz]

Every shotgun has a flashlight

[river basalt]

Spiderman 2 mod removing the LGBTQ stuff was banned due to controversy since what they wrote in description lol

[magic hatch]

The intigrated one

[hearty mirage]

This is something you'd only hear about on TikTok

[plucky cliff]

Pardon???

[fair dove]

This is like saying its illegal to post pages of a book online if the publishing company later redacts them because it doesn't fit with the current cultural narrative. Apply it to literally any other type of media and you guys sound really regressive lmao

[river basalt]

If you have over 50k unique downloads on nexus they invite you to the modding discord and you can see why every mod was removed

[magic hatch]

Oh my lord i thought I was dumb

[river basalt]

People spread misinformation about nexus like crazy

[desert island]

damn bro 50k mods u bethesda player

[hearty mirage]

50,000 downloads

[desert island]

well unique downloads so he aint downloadin da same mod

[river basalt]

40% of the take downs are for reuploading mods without permission

[glacial solstice]

Im pretty sure you can just join nexus discord..

[desert island]

nvm then da same mod but reuploaded

[fair dove]

then refute my points then lmao

[river basalt]

People who download your mod, not downloading other mods …

[desert island]

hey its believeable to have 50k mods

[plucky cliff]

Its still copyright infringment.

[river basalt]

Modding discord not the regular discord

[fair dove]

okay.... is it morally wrong though?

[river basalt]

It’s for authors only

[feral river]

nexus 🤢

[glacial solstice]

Yea im pretty sure i joined the moddin one through skyrim community shader or the othere way around im not apart of them anylonger tho since its years ago.

[river basalt]

Another person who gets there information from twitter and TikTok lmao

[hearty mirage]

Arguing morals on Discord with strangers here we go

[plucky cliff]

Yes???? Its not your property. You are basically taking ones property for you own just because they removed it for reasons that arent your buisness.

[hearty mirage]

Nice stupid shouting contest about to go down

[mystic topaz]

The 870 CQB has flashlight attachment as integrated light into the pump

[feral river]

i have neither of those

[plucky cliff]

Oh

[desert island]

yeah i dont have a twitter or tiktok

[river basalt]

Only way to view channels in it is to verify your nexus account with discord but yes technically anyone could join but they can’t see anything

[jaunty horizon]

I mean not only that scenario, just uploading pages of someone else's book in general is copyright infringement

[magic hatch]

Just emptied a whole mag through a door and managed to hit 2 suspects

didnt even know they were there

[river basalt]

Single fire mode with ap rounds ?

Use the Ak if you want the most penetration

[magic hatch]

all i care about is bullet

[hearty mirage]

What is the point of this conversation

[desert island]

u aint part of it

[mystic topaz]

The battle rifles in 7.62 would like a word with you

[frank edge]

Am I the only one where the enemies just take a full mag of .300???

[magic hatch]

if bullet can hit person gun is good

[fair dove]

Again, the book analogy. I bought the artistic work, they after the fact chose to remove the already-purchased content. Just because I buy a book that gets altered because its not "PC" anymore doesn't mean I don't have the right to sell it later on

[river basalt]

Aim for head

[magic hatch]

One of mine managed to take 10 slugs at point blank

[fair dove]

It's not as long as I give credit to the author actually

[desert island]

300 blk AP should 2 shot everyone except like gerald

[hearty mirage]

Now everyone is a lawyer

[river basalt]

You buy a license to play it that can be removed or altered at any time

[plucky cliff]

YOU as a consumer have 2 options. Be a supporting patron, or not. There is no in between. You either buy or you dont.

[hearty mirage]

We are all supporting patrons

[frank edge]

Half a mag was chest up

[shy tulip]

Option 3: Make Tik Tok memes

[hearty mirage]

They said they bought art

[manic sentinel]

Is it actually known which pistol is the LSPD's standard issue pistol?

[plucky cliff]

If you still bought the merch then sell it or just complain on discord. And you chose the ladder 😑

[desert island]

u will not own ze games

[hearty mirage]

Default load out probably if I had to guess

[manic sentinel]

Makes sense

[jaunty horizon]

giving credit does not change whether it is a violation or not. I understand that that is a popular way of thinking, but the law does not say that

[fair dove]

I love the game which is why i am upset that the original writers' vision is being neutered for profit

[desert island]

mods are basically fan fiction

[hearty mirage]

LAPD uses 509

[stoic thistle]

Any advice for doing Neon Tomb, moderately nonlethal.

[plucky cliff]

Then play it???????????? Stop getting mad at something you cant change. Both of us a patrons decided to continue to use the merch.

[river basalt]

Lots of gas

[hexed escarp]

i love the game and the writers vision so i'm gonna get mad and stop supporting the writers and developers forever until they remove the underwear from the game

[hearty mirage]

Gas, nonlethal pistol and shield?

[fair dove]

I am playing it. I'm not mad I jsut don't think censorship is the correct approach

[mystic topaz]

Lovely to see americans waking up and turning everything into controversy and politics once again!

[hearty mirage]

Lots of gas though, as they said

[desert island]

m32flash mkv and shield is moderately nonlethal

[river basalt]

LOL the pistol is as weak as a bag of Cheetos

[fair dove]

I haven't stopped supporting them lmao

[hearty mirage]

Probably is, haven't used it

[hexed escarp]

its the literal only approach they have to get the game on console my guy 🥀

[mystic topaz]

Gas is currently borked and unreliable

[plucky cliff]

Also im mad mad becuase i cant look at hanging balls anymore *whine *whine

[desert island]

y r u recommending stuff u dont kno

[hearty mirage]

There was a question mark

[fair dove]

lmao. can't think of a coherent argument so you revert to ad hominem

[desert island]

u still talkin to maus

[olive pond]

What the hell is the bring order to chaos objective I have been looking across this place for like 2 hours.

[hearty mirage]

Ready or Not Discord finds the stupidest shit to argue over

[glacial solstice]

The reason most complain about is not the censor but the reason its being implimented along with the bugs that followed the ronsol..

[desert island]

neutralize all suspects

[plucky cliff]

Yes lmao this guy is still going 😑

[hexed escarp]

we argue about the same thing forever until the devs do one thing that we dont like and then we argue about it forever*

[olive pond]

I have searched every imaginable room in this map for 2 hours. They are none

[vale mulch]

there’s an criminal somewhere

[desert island]

hes right behind u

[olive pond]

Mustve phased through the map then

I know this map better than my own house atp

[vale mulch]

I’d say possible but I’ve never seen it

[mystic topaz]

Depends if you are running commander mode or MP game. Beanbag shotgun FTW (just don't aim at the head), gas is kinda borked now but otherwise is good, flashbangs and stingers are also great. Launchers with flash and stinger nades are also great.

[hearty mirage]

I just walk around shouting and shooting when this happens

[olive pond]

Did that, nothing

[plucky cliff]

Detain all downed supsects

[plucky cliff]

What map?

[desert island]

which map

[stoic thistle]

Thanks.

[olive pond]

the meth lab

[desert island]

theres 13-15 enemies on that map so count the bodies i guess

[plucky cliff]

Tunnels, the 2nd house, outside.

[olive pond]

Checked the tunnels 4 times

[plucky cliff]

I see

[mystic topaz]

You can also try pepperball gun but that has the unfortunate effect of suspects coughing and waving hands wich is a problem with vest-rigged suspects. The animation of vest pull and pepperball supresion are really similar and I payed dearly for it.

[desert island]

they just dont surrender if ur within bomb range

they surrender when they cant kill u with it

[mystic topaz]

They surrender to the power of beans

[desert island]

i watched my team try to crowd the bomb guy with 4 beanbag guns and then eventually the choked and blew up

[quaint bone]

it is possible that if you downed a suspect but didnt kill them (incapacitated) AND you didnt tie them up, they can wake up and run off

check your spawn area as well

[olive pond]

Went down there twice

Im telling yall I have searched every damn inch of this place for anything

[vale mulch]

you’re cooked

[desert island]

that suspect got u good

[hexed escarp]

have you searched both sides of the fence inbetween the two houses underneath the bridge connecting them

because one time a suspect with a knife was just sitting in there for me

[vale mulch]

he got that ass

[noble pasture]

Judge got ass

[north hamlet]

Idk why my load outs keep deleting randomly

[vale mulch]

Are you randomly not saving it

[olive pond]

Yes

[hearty mirage]

This too, I started getting stabbed a lot more

[hexed escarp]

the last guy may've legit just glitched out of the map then or is hiding under something your team hasnt searched

[olive pond]

All of the doors in both homes are open, every room checked at minimum three times, sometimes up to 5-6, I have checked everywhere. Starting to believe one of the suspects bugged out and went off map or smth

[hexed escarp]

i've never heard of entire suspects glitching out of the map tho only guns so idk

[north hamlet]

No, it seems to be a glitch where if I edit a loadout I’ve saved, and save it again, it deletes some other loadout at random

[vale mulch]

I’m also convinced

[vale mulch]

Never seen that one. I’d unplug it for 30 seconds and pray to whatever god you believe in

[glacial solstice]

To be fair i have had maps very fhew times where we also gave up finding the last suspect. Idk the reason for it tho.

[wicked charm]

I’m on Sinous Trail rn and I’m getting lost af

[noble pasture]

[olive pond]

They should add something to prevent this, like maybe motion trackers or drones that hunt out for them

Left early, says there were two suspects left behind. I call bullshit

[desert island]

r u new

[olive pond]

Yes

[desert island]

ur guna have to get used to it then

[radiant moat]

Does anyones game crash like as soon as you start it from steam? i havent even been able to load the game up.

[olive pond]

Game's no fun if 90% of it is slow walking across giant maps hunting down a suspect that doesn't exist.

[desert island]

when ur experienced u can pretty much run everywhere and know where the enemies spawn

[shy tulip]

The one that got away

[magic hatch]

only on X11 or whatever ity is

[desert island]

but for new players its guna be playing slowburn suspense thriller hide and seek for keeps

[magic hatch]

Valley of the dolls tome

[olive pond]

There was literally no suspect anywhere that wasn't either dead or arrested

[desert island]

did u check attic and beds

[river basalt]

Ive had a few suspects be stuck in walls

[olive pond]

Yes and yes

I checked the attic twice

[radiant moat]

i got into the game on safe mode but directx11 and 12 dont work.

[magic hatch]

check file integ

or just dont use mods

[radiant moat]

bruh they also made the graphics worse. this game sux

[shy tulip]

If it works on safemode and doesn't on others, it's cause of broken mods

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[vale mulch]

Known unintentional glitch

[obtuse sequoia]

out of date mods

[radiant moat]

is it really a "glitch" though?

[vale mulch]

Yes lol

go look at the known issues if you care

[shy tulip]

My poor known issues list, the neglected child

[radiant moat]

my fualt it was a gif

[vale mulch]

it tried to be

[noble pasture]

A suspect irl killed a canine, canine handler and shot a deputy. So the swat team lit him up. Why dont we have that RoE?

[lime marten]

has any1 noticed really shit textures on pc since the update?

[radiant moat]

yeah

we were just talking about that

[lime marten]

its really annoying

[vale mulch]

Known glitch

[lime marten]

i maybe get an extra 10 frames from the optimizations they did and the textures are literally 2015 game level

[lime marten]

oh is it a glitch?

[vale mulch]

Confirmed yes

[lime marten]

thank fuck for that

[lime marten]

can i fix it or do i have2 wait 4 them2 fix it

[timid arch]

Hey guys is there a supporter edition on console? There's a belt I want

[jovial hatch]

you have to wait

[lime marten]

im actually going to end it

well atleast it will get fixed

i thought they just did it so potatoe pc's can run it or for the piece of shit 5 year old consoles

[dim grotto]

On relapse I can’t find the bomb I looked everywhere any advice would be appreciated

[wicked charm]

Okay I’m taking a break Sinous Trail is slapping me around because I can’t make heads or tails of the damn place.

[tardy steeple]

is it possible to S rank the hospital mission on hard ?? non lethal seems useless on bomb vest ppl]

[magic hatch]

err

[lime marten]

using beanbag?

[noble pasture]

"Extremis malis, extrema remedia" it translates to "extreme disease, extreme cure" Los Suenos realistically needs to fight fire with fire

[magic hatch]

Yes if you use flashbangs and aim for the head

[vast folio]

Nope nope nope nope. Both suspect and SWAT AI feel way too atrocious. I really want to like the game, but I can't stand playing it. Guess I'll shelf it until it receives some polish 🥲

[lime marten]

aim for the legs

[tawny widget]

When CS gas is fixed it will be a hell of a lot easier

[tardy steeple]

Whats wrong with CS gas rn

[inner elk]

try not playing on hard its a better and more fun

[noble pasture]

Nexus Mods or Mod.io if you feel rebellious

[final fox]

Idk if this is just me but it’s annoying that I need to go back to hq just to restart it’s annoying

[tawny widget]

Far weaker now than it used to be. I’ve thrown it directly at someone’s feet and seen it not do anything

[desert island]

1 cop dead, 2 friendly fires = A+

[olive pond]

THIS ^^^

[inner elk]

quickplay exists

[noble pasture]

How?

[tardy steeple]

Numerous occasions or nah ?

[lime marten]

u dont?

[final fox]

How then ?

[stone bay]

am i crazy or has AI for armed suspects changed a lot? or is it just because the new difficulties have particular behavior profiles?

[olive pond]

When you die you have to go back to HQ to restart the mission

[lime marten]

just press escape then restart?

[lime marten]

no u dont

[final fox]

Ye that’s what’s annoying

[desert island]

blue lives dont matter

[olive pond]

Yes you do because I died and two buttons existed only: Go back to main menu or return to HQ

[stone bay]

when you die it takes you back to the van to think about what you did

[keen magnet]

Anyone got a good route for Sins of The Father

[tawny widget]

Basically any time I use gas I see next to 0 effect

[lime marten]

they must have changed it then

[desert island]

gas now takes 2 full seconds to stun
only has 3 meters of range
so they can easily just walk out of the stun before 2 seconds

[devout kayak]

Hi, just downloaded the game, was it a mistake? I saw that the graphics were downgraded for PC, is that right?

[stone bay]

i always go fire escape -> top floor down, ive had the most success like this

[olive pond]

From what I heard it is a bug

[noble pasture]

Not really, its a bug the devs will fix

[keen magnet]

Yeah I was going fire escape bottom floor up and just not finding much success especially on hard mofe

[devout kayak]

And it hasnt been fix yet? I dunno if i should wait before i play, i dont want to get a bad experience from the game @olive pond@noble pasture

[magic hatch]

Even if the graphics we're downgraded for a reason it still wouldnt be a mistake to get the game

[stone bay]

only issue for me were the balcony rooms and the large room at one end, which are both far easier if you can throw a few grenades around

[magic hatch]

I cant even see my red dot because I need low graphics youll be fine

[inner elk]

you cant really notice it icl its like shadows and stuff

[stone bay]

HOW

[lime marten]

u can

[smoky thicket]

Nexus Mods is starting to remove uncensored RoN mods

[keen magnet]

I always die in the top floor hallway

[magic hatch]

I have a 730 in the graphics range

[devout kayak]

Okay, thanks everyone!

[lime marten]

literally big fucking restart button

[devout kayak]

is it available now?

[inner elk]

yeah you can restart on quickplay

[lime marten]

look in screenshots

[stone bay]

hallways are never an issue for me just cuz i use mirror or shoot people quickly i guess

[lime marten]

tf is quickplay

[inner elk]

non commander mode

[magic hatch]

what the game used to be

[lime marten]

r u on console

[inner elk]

no?

[smoky thicket]

no, mod is currently under review by moderators

[keen magnet]

I feel like on hard mode they have the reaction speed of a robot on ket

[devout kayak]

Someone reuploaded the files on reddit but im a bit scared of using them haha

[stone bay]

wouldnt ketamine destroy their reaction time completely

[shy shell]

Man I hate having to walk through all of relapse to find the last fucking civilian

[keen magnet]

Depends on the person

[smoky thicket]

use the website called virustotal

[stone bay]

your fault for not searching room to room

[lime marten]

on multiplayer u can restart

[desert island]

if they had robot reaction speed we culd nvr win

[plucky cliff]

Why and how can i use the hawiaiian shirt when its locked

[inner elk]

yeah everyone knows that i was talking bout singleplayer

[desert island]

so their reaction speed to 0.00001 and bam they just kill u on pixel

[lime marten]

who tf doesnt play on multiplayer

[shy shell]

Dawg I miss ONE room out of an entire fucking hospital

[inner elk]

idk

[devout kayak]

i windows-defended it and they look safe but was wondering if any of you guys used that reddit reupload

[keen magnet]

Literally what happens to me it feels like sometimes

[shy shell]

I prefer single player cause I can’t find competent teammates

[stone bay]

coked up gangsters 50 feet away from me with knockoff AK's and 4 packed shelves between us critting me instantaneously on the first shot:

[stone bay]

LOL

[noble pasture]

The game looks good already, you can try playing it a mission or two

[smoky thicket]

I didn't use it, I downloaded it from the RoN youtuber server

[keen magnet]

Or u walk into a room with about a million tall objects in the way and they just seem to prefire you an hour before you swing

[desert island]

their reaction speed went from 0.1 second to 0.05 second

[stone bay]

on hard mode they shoot you before you load up the game

[noble pasture]

On Hard they shoot you in the precinct

[desert island]

average human reaction speed is already 0.2 second

[pure turtle]

same but multiplayer, I like having teammates that have functioning eyes (sometimes) and you can speak to

[keen magnet]

I'm on hard mode and that's the issue I swing round a corner and they are shooting before I knew I existed

[desert island]

so they went from twice as fast as humans to four times as fast

[devout kayak]

How many files is that? Got 10 from the reupload

[shy shell]

I’ve had too many instances of players straight up arguing with each other, shield users not being at front or using their shield, people swinging open trapped doors, and people killing civilians and playing the game like it’s call of duty

[vale mulch]

I’m halfway through hard mode with a controller this time so it’s plenty possible. Harder than mouse for sure. With no aim assist

[noble pasture]

Thats only to process information, action speed is much slower

[smoky thicket]

1 file

[desert island]

well just do a reaction speed test

[stone bay]

this is why public lobbies are a mistake

[pure turtle]

that's the usual public lobby stuff honestly, stuff like this happens all the time in SWAT 4 as well in random lobbies

[desert island]

ull prbly score around 200ms

[keen magnet]

My friend that just started brought a shield and he might as well of been a tortoise because he said its for flanking people

[stone bay]

im depressed at the methods people have come up with for completing this game like the turtle technique

[shy shell]

Man shit like this even happens when I’m in a PS call as well

[magic hatch]

So whos gonna tell me why i hear moaning in valley of the dolls

[desert island]

average player react in 200ms
standard bots react in 100ms
hard bots react in 50ms

[tardy steeple]

Think hard mode needs a big fix

[keen magnet]

I just try to use as many real tactics as possible

[magic hatch]

cinema?

[inner elk]

the cinema room has a prono audio playing

[shy shell]

Absolutely

[magic hatch]

how do i make it stop

[desert island]

its annoying when people ask me to use my shield but dont cover me when i use it

[inner elk]

leave the room

[stone bay]

recently i have been killed by so much randomly occurring and unaccountable stuff i am getting very discouraged in general

[desert island]

like ill walk into a room and be like enemy deep in hall infront

[shy shell]

Exactly why I just bring a mirror gun or flash grenade launcher

[stone bay]

like man i am not going to wedge every single door or deploy gas in every single room, i just want to finish a mission

[desert island]

and then theyll do nothing so i have to just spam my pistol to kill them

[keen magnet]

And that's why I just flash every room

[keen magnet]

I always bring mirror gun

[spice idol]

Yes it’s constantly happening every single time I play I am going to become more insane than the crackheads I’m trying to arrest

[stone bay]

i cannot imagine playing this game without mirror prove me wrong

[desert island]

i did all of hard wit no mirror gun

[inner elk]

if you are going non lethal just shoot anotheer beanbag at them dont wait for the slow surrender

[keen magnet]

Fr

[shy shell]

I’ve even had a group of teammates that had the worst strategy for beating greased palms and after getting flanked by a suspect accused me of team killing

[desert island]

mirror gun is a crutch for slow play

[stone bay]

im standing up and clapping for you

[desert island]

its easier to just run into every room and just flash the floor

especially when u know all the common spawns

[shy shell]

I love seeing a suspect in front of the door with a mirror gun and annihilating their ass with a C2

[stone bay]

honestly peeking and throwing a nade through the gap is all you really need lol

but always good to know if johnny shotgun is poised to fulfill his purpose in life on the other side

[keen magnet]

I'm on my first playthrough I know none of the spawns

[desert island]

yeah mirrorgun is for tutorial

[stone bay]

i have been betrayed by this knowledge so many times

[desert island]

only time ive been betrayed is now on some maps suspects once alerted will just leave their spawn and move to u

[stone bay]

am i phleet's biggest hater

[desert island]

which is sometimes funny i have a bunch of screen shots of rows of hallways of 6 enemies in a conga line

see one enemy
flash him
theres 4 other people in the room who got flashed

on sins of father
u capture 1 guy
6 other guys open all the doors and come at u in single file

[stone bay]

i noticed a lot of dead or incap enemies end up on the ground with their arms up, which looks very silly lel

[keen magnet]

I made my ais stack up on a door I used mirror gun as I use mirror gun the enemy on the other side opens the door and domed me

[desert island]

yeah just try to stack the door so they cant open it

[magic hatch]

Jesus christ thats a long mission

27 minutes for valley of the dolls

[desert island]

it gets worse

[stone bay]

voll house is not the longest

[inland pewter]

The hospital

[keen magnet]

So far my least favourite mission is sins of the father

[stone bay]

elephant is my least

[keen magnet]

I enjoyed elephant

[desert island]

sins of the father is my least

[stone bay]

carriers of the vine i have no interest in replaying

[desert island]

carriers of the vine is my fav

[keen magnet]

That's the mission I'm on rn in commander mode 😭

[inland pewter]

Elephant was A good idea for A map but like feels underpopulated in the halls

[stone bay]

twisted nerve, voll house, brisa cove and caesar's i often replay

neon tomb is fun once you know what to expect

[keen magnet]

I think twisted nerve and brisa cove are in my top 3

[desert island]

they r armored
they use tier1 weapons
theres alot of them
theres no stupid cover
no nighttime
and its easy to do without backtracking

[stone bay]

carriers is just boring and you might get randomly deleted by a lady with an absurdly overpowered gun

[desert island]

sins of father has bomb doors where suspects just open the door themselves and kill each other

other than that its a rly good map

[remote tiger]

Crack House is my favorite.

[stone bay]

relapse would be fun if the map itself was interesting but its just Halls & Doors of Doom

[magic hatch]

TYCA is mine

[shy shell]

Yeah I wanted more suspects and civilians

[desert island]

elephant needs active shooter mode

right now theres no reason why the civilians dont leave and no reason for suspects to not kill immediately

[stone bay]

i really dont enjoy port hokan idk why

[desert island]

also i was testing weapon damage and a suspect on elephant killed his teammate

[vale mulch]

I like them all crazy enough

[hearty mirage]

School drills have you stay in the classroom, not roaming the halls with the shooters

[stone bay]

streamer apartment is interesting but theres really not a lot to do

[keen magnet]

What's the one with the fisa agent at the post sorting place

[desert island]

greased palms post office

[stone bay]

lol

[keen magnet]

I hate that

It's so dumb because I thought the fisa guy got into a gunfight with these Mexicans or whatever whys he stood with them

[wide verge]

I did a S rank run on Hide and Seek. Went very well with the new launcher, got all the suspect and was running around looking for a few civilians...then the game crashed -.-

[desert island]

if they wanted to make elephant actually intense, they would have fake gunfire noises and screaming when u get there

cuz once ur in its just quiet and nothing is happening

[stone bay]

i have tried to create a fun game plan for greased palms and i just cant enjoy it

[magic hatch]

7 officers either resigned or went into a intervention after valley of the dolls 😭

[keen magnet]

I don't like the layout of elephant but it did creep me out as it looks like my irl college even the same like colours and stuff for the logo

[hearty mirage]

7 officers?

[magic hatch]

In total either resigned or went intoo a intervention

[desert island]

i had 9 officers quit and 3 in therapy in 4 back to back missions

when doin ironman speedrun

[stone bay]

"Judge kept leaving us at the entrance and securing each location alone so i just quit"

[desert island]

judge kept killing 1 civilian to skip the civilian objective to soft clear early

he wuld just soft clear so we culdnt execute him

[inland pewter]

@hearty mirage I'm aware I work for A school district As A armed person. But the classrooms hallways felt pretty enpty

[twin bramble]

Does that work I’m going for the achievement it’s just for level clear right so you can get a D put it’s still “passed” right

[stone bay]

as soon as a run gets derailed i just kind of start popping civilians until they hunt me down

[desert island]

for do all maps on hard u need a B

u can pop civilians as long as u dont give them a warning

[stone bay]

lol nice tip

[weak orchid]

I DID IT FINALLY VOTD S RANK

[desert island]

and u can pop suspects as long as u give them a warning

[remote tiger]

Not gonna lie, the M32 rotary is kinda broken

[keen magnet]

It makes s ranking quite easy

[desert island]

its basically an aoe 1 shot kill

[keen magnet]

(I have no s ranks)

[desert island]

ignores armor and hp just stuns anyone hit by it

[inland pewter]

Flash launcher is how I got my S ranks with both launchers you get A steady 16 shots lmao

[weak orchid]

Is each new mag 8 new shots?

[stone bay]

i would like to remove all ammo from my team and just give them stinger launchers

[remote tiger]

No, it's one additional

[shy shell]

Ngl that one DLC mission with the huge ass building filled with nearly 30 suspects makes no sense

[inland pewter]

I know putting 6 gives 12 . Anymore I added only gave one extra shot

[desert island]

u start with 6 for just picking it
then can run the m320 for 4 more
then u can wear 13 more ammo with light armor
for 23 ammo

[weak orchid]

Oh\

[keen magnet]

I figured out the beanbag shotgun is not safe to the brain

[stone bay]

lol its kind of just a building full of random armed dudes

[desert island]

and each shot has a chance of stunning 2 or more enmies so u can do maps with left over ammo

[shy shell]

And a 5v30 is crazy

[cosmic kettle]

is there a mod for removing armor and helmet from ur outfit

[desert island]

u dont need a mod for that

[stone bay]

they also keep taking and killing hostages before ive even seen them which i dont understand

[cosmic kettle]

how do i remove em

[shy shell]

Really? I didn’t even know there were civilians on that map

[desert island]

press the no armor and no button option for armor and helmet

[remote tiger]

I think they want a mod to remove them visually, without losing their protection.

[desert island]

i dont kno if hes talkin about the elysian but the elysian has 1 hostage and the most suspects at 28

rip

[ancient frost]

how the hell do i get killed by a civ no one wants to melee me

[tame valve]

yo whats the timer for the bombs in elephant hard mode?

[desert island]

blonde mom on dollhouse melees u if shes not scared

[desert island]

8 minutes down from 10

[ancient frost]

and shes always scared tho

[keen magnet]

If I'm correct it's just under 10 mins

[desert island]

do no yelling, no shootin, dont let ur swats shoot or yell
just leave her alone until shes bold again

[stone bay]

i have accidentally shot her a couple of times lol

[remote tiger]

"Accidentally"

[ancient frost]

i think ima run a clean game without mods

and see if that will work since i have some ai thingies

[stone bay]

scare the shit out of her

[shy shell]

“I can’t wait to see you die”
-Famous last words before being magdumped while cuffed

[stone bay]

is there a way to stop your squad from yelling?

[ancient frost]

make sure to get your boys into the fun as well

[desert island]

tell them to hold where they cant see shit

[valid olive]

why are the weapons of my teammates highlighted? Is this a already known bug?

[ancient frost]

never heard of it

[vale mulch]

I played it today and they were popping off shots before I even got near the doors

[hexed comet]

I am returning to the game and much has changed, how do I get the primary suspects I have to arrest to surrender? Idk if this is spoiler but ill censor anyway: ||I am doing greased palms and the agent I have to arrest has shot me both times leaving me no choice but to shoot him, then I do not get the objective points though. Any tips?||

[hearty vigil]

Use non lethal

[sweet pelican]

maybe im late at the ball here but, did all of your progress got reseted during the update? Mine did...

i have to redo every mission :/

[timber fjord]

its only visual i believe

[hearty vigil]

Bug most likley, if it’s constantly happening restart ur game

[sweet pelican]

hm i got a box that i need to finish the progress to play the DLC-maps but yeah maybe just a restart fix it

[valid olive]

could it be that they also changed the weapon holding height in the headquarters? It looks so much lower and closer than pre-patch or maybe I'm imagining things

[desert island]

they changed the fov to default
just increase ur fov back

[bleak dirge]

What is FISA based off of irl?

FBI, NSA, CIA?

[desert island]

LSPD = LAPD
FISA = FBI
USIA = CIA

[quartz night]

Does anyone know if they plan on fixing the downgraded graphics

[valid olive]

cheers, you are a life saver

[tacit gull]

Yes

[stone bay]

this clarifies so much lmao

[manic swallow]

anybody ever experience a chinese player tk and troll in public matches?

[quartz night]

👍

[quartz night]

Yea I did yesterday

[desert island]

ive had a chinese player but they were able to get along fine with the korean player

[regal cloud]

they fix CS gas grenades ytet?

[vale mulch]

It’s really like 5 vs 2 then 3 then 1 and so on.

[quartz night]

I don’t think so but I feel like it’s not gonna be soon

[regal cloud]

ahh that blows, my favorite utility broken

[desert island]

its more like 1-2 v 1-6 like 10 times

[jagged shale]

Is it possible for suspects to spawn on the fire escape stairs on Sins of the Father?

[quartz night]

Could be wrong but normally any updates there’s a wait so

[desert island]

ive seen them spawn next to a window lookin at fire escape spawn stairs

[radiant spindle]

yes, one time i saw one on the lower stairs when spawning from the roof.

[jagged shale]

I just died to one that spawned on the upper stairs from rooftop spawn.

[radiant spindle]

if you spawned on roof, and went to lower door then they likely came from the door above. not directly spawning on the stairs though.

[dry cosmos]

i think there are no spawns in there but they might walk there at some point

[radiant spindle]

check the replay if you have replays on

[radiant spindle]

yeah this is the most likely answer. well said. ( i did see one that came from the bottom stairs, but likely came from the door and walked onto stairs)

[jagged shale]

I went to the first door when going downwards. That's weird tho because I just breached it and he appeared right behind me.

[valid olive]

does the uncensored mod restrict matchmaking?

[solid laurel]

He might've moved upwards from the bottom most floor

[grim spear]

relapse on ironman🥀

[dry cosmos]

any mod makes you being able to play only with people who allowed modded servers and players in settings

[solid laurel]

It does if the host doesnt allow modded players to join

[jagged shale]

Maybe, but I had swat AI covering the stairs. I was confused at first when my swat AI shot at a wall then went outside to go check and he was there.

[radiant spindle]

anyone trying S-ranks with Ai? if so hows it been?

[desert island]

ill try right now and check back in 10 mins

[radiant spindle]

do Greased palms, and get back to me in 25 minutes 🙂

[versed sky]

Either the ai don’t fight or there’s multiple suspects fighting me at once

[valid olive]

Thank you both

[wispy vector]

how’s the game running on console? Thinking about buying it later today.

[solid laurel]

Aight, bet

[timber fjord]

I've tried greased palms like 10-15 times, S ranking it is the worst experience ever... Ai is so stupid

[radiant spindle]

ive had issues with the X ray goggles they have piercing through 2 layers of cover with their pistol. as well as Ai literally staring at them. Not to mention weird behaviour with 1 walking off into another direction when a command is given.

[timber fjord]

Correction... Relapse is what i tried that many times

But greased palms is just as worse

[solid laurel]

I'm in the 50s with my rust belt solo hard attempt

[potent crystal]

I just had the best run of elephant and boom they execute a civvie on the second floor

This game hates me and Standard S ranks

[timber fjord]

Trying to S rank hide and seek wish me luck

[timber fjord]

That map is just based on luck and how well you know the spawn locations

[radiant spindle]

glad im not alone. as well as them having crack shots with 1 shot full hp. Wish we could at least have a little bit more competent Ai teammates to compensate for the difficulty increase. As ive gotten to the last 2 suspects in greased palms solo, and only half that with Ai teammates as they seem to be a BIG liability shouting on the megaphone where i am and stirring everyone up 😛

[timber fjord]

Yea swat ai blind AND deaf, enemy ai on the other hand is opposite

[jagged shale]

greased palms and valley of the dolls are a pain in the ass on hard mode

[radiant spindle]

ill knock out any S-rank with you right now. tired of hardmode 😛

[jagged shale]

suspects can laser you with a pistol from hundreds of feet away

[digital osprey]

Have devs discussed any solutions to the censorship problem?

[radiant spindle]

not to my knowledge, but im sure everyone will talk about it when and if they do.

[digital osprey]

Cause i see there could an easy fix

[jagged shale]

I think 1 dev responded to a user with something around the lines of "just mod it back in."

[crude prism]

"toggle"

"2 versions"

place your bets

[digital osprey]

I think toggle would work best

Modding it back in could have compatibility issues in the long term

[ancient frost]

I DID IT FINALLY I GOT KILLED BY A CIV

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-12944899486400191725

[desert island]

im back after 9 mins but i got 3 friendly fires so it was not an S

[radiant spindle]

I believe it only needs to be Standard. but do hardmode if you want to torture yourself 😄

[bright carbon]

If I do all the main missions multiplayer do I still get all the rewards
Or does it have to be in director mode

[radiant spindle]

you can do it in multiplayer. all but the ironman mode is exclusive for the diamond watch cosmetic

[desert island]

is the f90 actually held closer to make it shorter than other rifles or nah

[bright carbon]

Alright, I'm trying to get the gas mask rn

[radiant spindle]

it will say in the details of the mask when you hover over it what the requirements are.

[potent crystal]

They execute the last hostage every time, WHERE IS THIS LAST HOSTAGE

[radiant spindle]

what level?

[potent crystal]

Elephant, every time I get 3 of the 4 suspects and just walk a few steps BOOM

[crude prism]

i have no idea

[radiant spindle]

most of the time if you do it more quietly (not shouting, and having Ai stay behind so they dont give away your position) you can minimize that. just move quickly. Just depends on where you're entering from (recommend left door on main spawn, or do alterative spawn location

[desert island]

AI r guna hear u no matter wat so might as well run

[potent crystal]

So less shouting

[misty edge]

Have to stop the suspects in like 3-4 minutes to prevent them killing hostages

[potent crystal]

Screw the civs till order to chaos + bombs

[radiant spindle]

its not really a 1 answer question. there are a lot of things. if you need help i can assist if you wish

[potent crystal]

I'm trying 3 more times in commander then I might start beggin' for help

Don't feel like spending 3 days on it like I did with VoTD

[solid laurel]

are you doing it on standard or hard?

[radiant spindle]

haha ok. well wish you the best of luck. (whats VoTD?)

[solid laurel]

valley of the dolls

[misty edge]

Elephant is harder to S than votd at least for me, votd only took a couple tries but I’m still stuck on elephant

[radiant spindle]

Hard as well? or standard?

[misty edge]

Standard bru I can’t even imagine doing it on hard with the traps

[radiant spindle]

Well i offer my help if you need it. Im just taking a breather 😄

[misty edge]

Same with neon tomb, imagine that shit with traps 😭

[keen magnet]

Elephant is a pretty easy map

[misty edge]

❤️

[warm path]

Any update to the fixes for textures, lightmaps and low poly models/popin, further broken AI, Enemies spawning within feet, Cross play match making or the missing world props for pc?

[uncut widget]

I just tried Riot Control to cancel short duration of gas on enemies and when I did... It still did nothing to them. So yeah, I'm fully convinced gas is broken and no hopes on S hard missions

[potent crystal]

Dude just ate three beanbags to the chest, what the flying fuck

[solid laurel]

gas is indeed broken right now, but hopefully it will be fixed soon

[misty edge]

What I’m saying!!!!

[nimble reef]

Great my game crashed for the second time s ranking valley of the dolls man I love this game so much

[crude prism]

Gas takes 4 full seconds to stun on Hard.

• the radius is tiny now.

Just hold off on gas, it'll get patched

[pine frost]

i am not sure if i just missed it but is there a timeline for when non preorder ron console will have access to the new guns/if?

[misty edge]

I’m considering bringing the p320 as my primary and aiming for hands because the shotty just isn’t working

[desert island]

just KILL THEM

[uncut widget]

I thought gas is working not good just because it's hard mode, but now I'm already convinced and raged

[nimble reef]

Bro ron keep fucking crashing where I can’t even finish a mission

[shut jetty]

Has anything been said about fixing the graphic issue?

[warm path]

honestly so far there has not been any kind of ETA for fixes, i will continue to come back every day or so and ask.

[timber fjord]

There's a suspect i have to find and anywhere i go i see on the subtitles "i...uh" or smth like that

[uncut widget]

No, gas literally does nothing, I threw it under feet one suspect in the bathroom and he just said "Fuck LSPD" and kept standing

[shut jetty]

Sadge

[zenith sinew]

Are the masked characters not usable by Xbox/PS players? Cause I’m on PC and use one but my buddy on Xbox can’t select them.

[misty edge]

It’s a bug I think

[zenith sinew]

Oh ok.

[warm path]

Its pretty unfortunate what was supposed to be a happy time with the launch has further devolved into more unhappy players, the censorship issues aside, Its hard to understand how there was thorough QA testing on this latest launch if the problems are so significantly wide spread, It would be one thing if it were just a mere handful of people who are having issues that could be possibly traced back to wigged .ini files or interference from custom mods but this is way more than that situation.

[potent crystal]

I give. Every time I walk into the computer lab THE HOSTAGE UPSTAIRS DIES

[keen magnet]

Elephant?

[shut jetty]

From what I have seen that's the VOID experience, it's just unreal how they let these things go straight into the official release, and their slow development doesnt help
All one can do is just wait

[potent crystal]

Yes, Non lethal

[keen magnet]

Ooof

[warm path]

100%, ive been supporting this game since EA, haven boughten multiple copies and made countless recommendations to friends for this title, So obviously i fucks with the vision.

[dull arch]

guys how can i join psn lobby from pc?

[potent crystal]

Aaaand I got shot through a locker. This is worse than my S rank on VoTD

[covert ferry]

What are the soft objectives in sins of the father?

[shut jetty]

Yeah I bought it with a friend of mine last year, it's just something I deeply appreciate

But hell, with this latest thing that happened and a very cold and silent response, doesnt instill me with much hope for the future of the game

[near tide]

yeah honestly idrc abt censorship yes it could have been done better for example the fresh ass nike pros for the container women but that aside the bugs and just graphic downgrades are just kinda awful

[crude prism]

it works, it just sucks and has no range, they can literally dodge by standing like 3m away

changed 👍

[near tide]

yeah genuinly what were they thinking no one has ever said that the gas grenades were too op

[uncut widget]

Ohh I see now, Well during vietnam shootings I couldn't notice the small range of it and was thinking it's broken (it is indeed)

[crude prism]

I mean it's pretty common sentiment that if you are trying to S rank in RoN you just put on gas and the game is no longer a game

they definitely overdid it the nerf hammer tho

[uncut widget]

gas grenades and everything on gas loadout was just saving me on S ranks, Now Idk how to beat Greased Palms still

[near tide]

i put an image of how bad the lighting has gotten https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/991559030919135242

[timber fjord]

btw will they fix us losing all our already existent ranks and times on maps?

i dont wanna s rank neon tomb again

[warm path]

its easy

[uncut widget]

everything for console players

[near tide]

i hate how they said your save isnt gone my save genuinly just dissapeared

[warm path]

the tricky spots are the two dance floors but rng jesus is on your side

If you get them to spawn by the front door and coat check, one in the hallway to the main dance hall area

Often makes the upstairs dancefloor easier

[near tide]

and it somehow runs worse😭

[crude prism]

saves are intact, (hence not losing unlocks, commander mode saves, etc)

they just aren't displaying, you're good

[winged crow]

My game runs fine

[timber fjord]

nice, ty

[glacial solstice]

Mine dont.

[uncut widget]

Yk, I’d prefer to have 70 fps than seeing what xbox players see

[glossy elbow]

how do criminals spot you when your sneaking up behind them

i was sneaking up on someone to try to arrest them, they were looking at the exact opposite direction

[ancient frost]

i died to a trap when i didnt open a door

[warm path]

the bath house areas are a bit more tricky, you want to pop your head in first through the female bathroom, then go back around to the front long entrance to the bathhouse with the pink lighting, then come back and go through the main double doors you get in from the main dance floors 1st floor blue bar

[glossy elbow]

they just turn to me and magdumped me

[winged crow]

Like frames wise or textures?

[warm path]

you should be able to pick off enough of them that when you do push the main floor of the bath house there is limited resistance

[near tide]

imma need your version

[glacial solstice]

Frames, textures, multiplayer, load times, crash, ai behaving like pre 1.0. The list goes on.

[warm path]

grab the last version, the save is cross compatible with the main branch release

[versed sky]

Ends of the earth is one of the easiest S ranks but one of the hardest due to the bug

[near tide]

📜 ✍️

[pallid tapir]

Relapse is freaking hard if you are going for an S rank jesus same with carriers of the vine

[warm path]

same with the DLC, it just works.

[near tide]

was

[warm path]

carriers is super easy, bean bag em, don't even wait for them to respond, everyone gets a bean bag

[winged crow]

Damn I'm lucky my xbox does all of those things great

[near tide]

anyone having enemy fling when they die

[warm path]

civilians, hostages, enemies, everyone gets a bean bag

[pallid tapir]

Yeah god those last 3 missions are HARD lol

[warm path]

sometimes they get 3 of them, Why? because fuck em'.

[near tide]

petition to make the lpvo work

[warm path]

started getting my team to pepper ball them mid surrender for fun aswell.

[glacial solstice]

Ooh a ronsol user im sry but due to circumstances i dont like u...

[potent crystal]

I'm about to start wearing heavy armor I swear...

[winged crow]

I don't really care

[jagged shale]

Anyone know why I only got a B on Sins of the Father? I went lethal and completed all objectives with no penalties.

[glacial solstice]

Dosnt matter if u do..

[near tide]

genuinely i keep thinking my game hasnt loaded all the way thats how bad its looking rn

[versed sky]

You went lethal that’s why

[jagged shale]

I can get an A+ or A going lethal on other maps
do I have to go non lethal for atleast an A?

[valid olive]

did they remove the head slap arrest animation?

[near tide]

blame void tbh they splitting people apart😭