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[bitter mason]

THIS NEW HARDCORE REALISTIC SHOOTER MADE ME POOP MY PANTS
Thumbnail of weapon reload/inspect animation

[shell bridge]

Don't forget 100% contrast while editing

[uncut dragon]

Quick question can we have weapon skins ? Change color ? Like full black or tan or green ?

[bitter mason]

like is that in the game?
No it isnt

[shell bridge]

+1

[uncut dragon]

Oh its a shame

I dont like the color skin of the HK 416

[bitter mason]

if you're on PC there is the possibility of mods

[topaz venture]

sup boys, they dropped the Ronsole release date right? i cant find it anywhere and excited to get my console homies into the action

[shell bridge]

July 15

[uncut dragon]

25 july

[topaz venture]

W thanks boys

[uncut dragon]

15 my bad

[shell bridge]

wait wasn't it 15?

[uncut dragon]

You right

[topaz venture]

oh its the 15th? even better

[glacial flint]

Same! Me and my mate preordered the deluxe edition and im so freaking excited!

[bitter mason]

if you're on pc there is mods
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/981?tab=description

[uncut dragon]

Unfortunately not on pc

[bitter mason]

ah dam

[topaz venture]

i wonder if im gonna have to disable my mods to run with them tho i cant recall if they were allowing mods for console at early state

[glacial flint]

I doubt it

But would be pretty cool

[uncut dragon]

We need something like this @VOID Interactive

[topaz venture]

heres to hoping they eventually do the mods are so fire

[bitter mason]

have they said there will be cross platform between pc and console?

[glacial flint]

Yes

[shell bridge]

Anyways, back to RoN discussion. They need to make it so that Judge can fit in the single file of squad, like when you tell them to stack up, let me fit in between the squad members, instead of them saying "You're in my way sir" like I don't belong there. And also introduce a "Fall in" option where you can be the 2nd or 3rd person, not the leading guy.

[bitter mason]

mfw that was meant to be a feature and they showed it off pre 1.0

[shell bridge]

Yes, "move to" exists, but its kinda clunky, and it gets confused when there are multiple doorways and entries

[amber dock]

Judge overrated

[crude prism]

the issue with this is that you can't really give them directions from inside a stack (without x-ray vision), but yeah it would be nice ig

[shell bridge]

I mean they can kinda adjust to your movements

[amber dock]

Not my problem

I paid for my product

[shell bridge]

actually leave that, just give them proper grenade throwing awareness

[tepid raven]

Do I dare get on RoN

[shell bridge]

add as dlc I'll pay for it

[shell bridge]

Get it

whether you are... ready or not

[tepid raven]

I am indeed not ready to get jump scared by a shirtless man with a sawed off double barrel

[shell bridge]

plot twist, it was a broken duct taped knife

now you will do overtime in the evidence locker as punishment

[crude prism]

in what way?

[tepid raven]

Turn the corner
The RPD in my face

[shell bridge]

over walls

case in point, the rooftop on mission "Spider"

I need to use my precious little flashbangs because AI can't chuck a flash over the staircase wall into the centre of the roof

and especially when the throw flashbangs in rooms

they don't actually think of the room's layout, and throw the flashes in the most awkward corners where they have 0 effect on suspects

But I will stop moaning about it when they 1) Add ability to give/take equipment from teammates and 2) allow me the throw a grenade like the AI does without exposing my dumb little head and torso

[crude prism]

true, being able to grab extra nades and stuff off the AI would be so nice

[crude prism]

unless something changed, don't they just throw into a general "middle" location straight ahead of the door?

this would be the standard response when blindly nading a location, no omnipotence pls

honestly I wish grenades were reworked instead of reworking the throwing
flashbangs should still hit suspects through some amount of cover, instead of being blocked by the smallest and thinnest of objects during the LOS check

stingers should not hit through cover, but have a better effect on target (as they do now)

[shell bridge]

I do remember 2 cases where they just throw it in a 80 degree angle. One was in hide and seek on the left side entrance of the warehouse

[strange depot]

I can’t stand the ai nade toss placement. Sometimes the canisters hit the wall then come back into the room. It’s terrible

[languid pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-angry-stare-down-pissed-off-intense-gif-5646469

[pine drum]

They should add rubber rounds for the LTL rifle, SMG, and pistol.

Those exist for those types of guns

[shell bridge]

+1

[pine drum]

Like you'd trade AOE for harder hitting rounds and ones that can go through glass. Feels like a fair trade.

[sterile forum]

Can someone tell me why RON just crashes when I try to join a game or host my own?

[strange depot]

Yo who the fuck programmed the room clearing for these supposed elite operators?

[amber dock]

#💻tech-support

[sterile forum]

sybau

❤️

[strange depot]

Walking backwards/sideways with the shield 🛡️ 💀 this is fucked

[shell bridge]

I have a question, console players beware of spoilers, don't click ||Why are the missions not present in chronological order. Why are they all over the place with months, and some missions referencing missions that are yet to be unlocked||

[strange depot]

Because the focus is environmental story telling not chronological order

[pine drum]

||Good question... Difficulty levels I get? There's a mod for that ||

[strange depot]

No cutscenes

No special events during missions that change

[pine drum]

Still would make sense to go chronologically. I feel like it's purely to make play time longer so you have to play detective.

[shell bridge]

||If you download the mod that makes them present in chronological order, the rising intensity of the how missions are presented (difficulty) just flip flops all over the pace||

[strange depot]

They really want you to focus on the atmosphere. TBH I don’t really care for the story at all. It’s not interesting. To me it’s all about the operator immersion. Bringing order to chaos

[pine drum]

And that's already a problem anyway.

🤷

[shell bridge]

My only explanation is multiple teams working on multiple different maps that were tied together later and dates were messed up

and some maps being added later to fill in the blanks for some other missions

[strange depot]

I just really hope optimization is fixed and big changes to the team ai on console release day

[pine drum]

Really it isn't that bad compared to AAA games... But that's not saying much.

The story

[shell bridge]

main thing I want them to fix is the stutters when the firefights start

the story can wait

[strange depot]

I get programming team ai is hard as shit. But a lot of the execution doesn’t work well currently. A lot of babysitting and questionable 🤨 decision making

[pine drum]

The SWAT AI are dumb af....

That's my biggest problem

[shell bridge]

majority of the problem will be solved if they 1) give me all their grenades 2) don't un-deploy the shield until I tell them to 3) don't automatically try to arrest a suspect 50 feet away from them in an open area

its all about control

[strange depot]

Like the shield guy should be crouching and 1 guy covering him from behind glued to his ass. Room clearing overall is a mess.

[pine drum]

They need to only shout when you do tbh, unless an AI opens fire.

[shell bridge]

Also don't keep cleaning sub-rooms when you clean the main one

I go to restrain one civi and my team is in a different apartment suddenly

[pine drum]

Yeah that got them killed in several runs

[strange depot]

It is good they are improving the suspect ai and their glitchy animation behavior. But the swat ai is the other half of the puzzle. For the solo player majority

[pine drum]

Some subrooms don't even need to be treated as subrooms, like in 3 letter triad with the kitchen.

I'm guessing the pantry was originally supposed to be walled off in level, but they decided against it last minute.

[strange depot]

Over extending is a problem. I don’t think they understand fully what defines a room and an open area. I often see them start venturing into other areas because of the “auto clearing into other smaller spaces” system

I do question tho.. did void really bring in tactical advisors when it came to programming the swat ai? Because nothing about how they work is tactical.

Like if you sit down and actually analyze everything. It’s all very basic with its issues

[pine drum]

Especially running backwards to stay focused on a door when they clear.

[pine drum]

My untrained ass is more tactical then they are.

But TBF, I watch SWAT footage religiously and take notes. 💀

[shell bridge]

I believe actual advisors were involved, credits has a lot of... well credits for advisors and coordinators

But I guess sometimes it just doesn't hold up in actual gameplay

[pine drum]

So it's just shitty programming

[strange depot]

They need to get me In with the guys that work on the ai

I want to genuinely sit down and have a conversation. Like look guys love the game. But here’s what needs to happen

[pine drum]

I'm wondering if they're trying to do the "main character" bs with judge, which doesn't work at all for tac shooters.

YK, where the fucking friendlies are dumb as fuck, the enemies out class them, so you're the only competent ones? Like some of the criminal/terrorist AI show way more competence than the SWAT AI

Like I had an AI pin me down with supressive fire, while another tried to go around to flank me. THAT'S TACTICAL

[strange depot]

Red and blue team need to be programmed differently. Each guy needs to work together when they clear rooms not wander off in different directions not even leaning half the time. I’m sure it’s a whole complexity of coding but that’s what is missing

[pine drum]

Or WAY WORSE, clear the same areas.

At the same fucking time.

[strange depot]

Yes lol. They say they have play testers for the team ai but I find that very hard to believe

[pine drum]

OMG, I had two officers cause a crossfire...

[strange depot]

There’s no way all the levels were played vigorously. All the commands were tested vigorously. Looked at room clearing vigorously… no shot

[pine drum]

The AI killed each other and I got blamed

[strange depot]

I also have the issue where if a hostage is taken. Often the team kills both the suspect and hostage

[pine drum]

I feel like they shouldn't shoot when there's a hostage in general... That's too unreliable

Like you can tell them to deploy LTL, yeah, but they shouldn't be taking the shot. That should be up to you.

Also, one complaint I have about the enemy ai, but it's not too bad... Is that they seem omniscient within a certain range. I'll have my officers try to distract them, but then they spin around the moment I get out from behind a wall

[strange depot]

Idk. I’ve given my feedback, as well as many others in extreme detail about how the team ai needs to get fixed. I want to Hope a lot of our points were taken into consideration for the console release

[pine drum]

Yep

Also, BULLETS NEED TO HURT FOR ENEMY AI... They hurt for SWAT officers, why not suspects?

Like the SWAT officers flinch way too hard compared to suspects.

Like I'd get it for maps like twisted nerve, because they're on meth. It's balanced with their shit aim.

But like... You mean to tell me someone shot with a 45 wouldn't be in some pain even if it just hits their armor?

[shell bridge]

they should just give them 2 states

passive and aggressive

for something like the tunnels, let me choose passive where they are really careful and precise but walk slow, lean and etc

aggressive is for something like the (spoilers) ||College shooting mission where you need to quickly eliminate the threat||

[urban mural]

Another issue with some suspect AI that sometimes they straight up overreact with gunfire, bruh how is that every suspect is ready to cook you?

Sometimes they are too much aggressive towards you and your team.

[shell bridge]

For suspects high on drugs its believable

But when literal Postal Depot security is ready to gun you down, something will seem off

the bodyguards on some missions too, no amount of salary is worth replacing your lungs with a fresh bash of hollow point 5.56

you could have some really die-hard security fanboys (2-3) shoot at you, to just make you stay on edge and prone to make mistakes

but every second security guy should not be shooting at police

but then again, god bless Los Sueños

[pine drum]

Not every one, but some straight up are overly eagaer to fight

Like the guards at mindjot shoot faster than the ex military during ides of march.

[pine drum]

Not to mention, some guards on Valley of Dolls can be heard questioning what they're doing, but they'll light you up the moment they see you.

[urban mural]

How about the gangsters or mafia mobs?

[shell bridge]

I guess it makes sense for those henchmen to shoot

they will be killed regardless by their own boss

so why not get a quick and painless death

[urban mural]

Not when they bleeding slowly ...

Now I'm questioning, is it possible to die to a shogun shell when it rips your body parts like legs and arms off?

[amber dock]

without ASAP medical help yes

would cause massive beelding

infection if wound is left untreated

[shell bridge]

well even if it doesn't directly destroy your brain or heart or lungs or throat

a traumatic arrest sure will

so yeah, you will die possibly before even bleeding out

but I am not a medical professional, so just take Ibuprofen and hope for the best ig

[amber dock]

ice will be fine

[shell bridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[amber dock]

and bring the torn apart limbs to hospital too

put them ideally in ICE bucket

to perserver them

[shell bridge]

nah my swat team always carries a duct tapes for situations like these

would be joined and working in no time

[amber dock]

flex tape is better for your headaches

[timid adder]

help i completed the game on ironman mode without losing anyone and dying but i dont have the trophies

[amber dock]

The hermit?

[timid adder]

yes

[amber dock]

hmm

redo port and get a C grade

[timid adder]

no one died and i lived through the main story

[timid adder]

bruh fr ?

[amber dock]

yeah

I know it's not specified but it's a hidden rule apparently

[timid adder]

bruuuuuhhhhhhh

[amber dock]

if that still doesn't solve it then come back and I'll try to help you again

[timid adder]

alrighty

[grizzled pagoda]

I thought it was June 15th update and I was so sad :(

[timid adder]

i got the world but not the hermit

gotta do it all over again. death to me

[amber dock]

Hermit I belive someone resigning also counts as losing

[warped cave]

excuse my language, but GOD DAMN the more I try and do stuff with non-lethal the more I'm excited for the pepperball pistol

Jesus christ trying to get "hidden and dangerous" is pissing me off

[amber dock]

how so?

just get a normal S rank

that's basically what the achivement is

[warped cave]

so just arrest everyone

[amber dock]

yeah

[warped cave]

oh i thought neutralizing meant killing

[amber dock]

yeah

[warped cave]

but wouldn't the AI cuff the suspects and the achivements is civs first?

[amber dock]

and if you S rank you won't neutralize anyone

[warped cave]

Hm

[amber dock]

Cause as long as you don't kill anyone it doesn't matter what you do fistt

That's why it's really a easy achivement

[warped cave]

Oh

[amber dock]

because it's just basically get a S rank

[warped cave]

Damn I'm just dumb lol

didn't know that

[amber dock]

now you know

[buoyant pecan]

Wish the game had steam workshop and not mod.io

[amber dock]

same thing with Hanged man achivement too

sorta

if you do it right

then it's a Free S rank too

[warped cave]

I managed to get hanged man

[amber dock]

So you can do Medal of Valor and Hanged man in one go

basically

[amber dock]

I wish for that too more then anything else

Mod io is a rollercoaster of a mod manager

[buoyant pecan]

As a steam deck player it’s a pain to get working too

(Ive never managed to lol)

[warped cave]

I'm still excited for the pepper ball pistol

if you run out of primary you have a secondary so you're not being fucked over 😭

[warped cave]

I use nexus

[timid adder]

one got incapacitated but he didnt resign

[amber dock]

might count too incap I'm afraid

[timid adder]

rip

[languid pasture]

15th can’t come fast enough

[amber dock]

not super certain but you gotta take all possibilities into consideration sadly

[urban mural]

Do you have to get C in hide and seek in iron man mode to get the achievement?

[amber dock]

I believe so yeah

If you mean the world achivement?

[urban mural]

I mean I'm just tryna get the iron man mode without my teammates AI dying or getting dropped by the suspects or by whatever...

[amber dock]

Yeah hermit,the world etc all need C grade port ye

[warped cave]

Thank you for your help fiveer

I got the achievement

[urban mural]

To make it complete or is there an achievement for that? What if I complete the iron made without anyone dying or resigning?

[amber dock]

I mean the World and The hermit achievements yeah

There are the other ones where you need a C grade or higher

[warped cave]

Now, 28/33 I need to get the uh "Sleeper Agent"

scale 1/10 how hard is it

[amber dock]

11

[warped cave]

oh lord have mercy

[languid pasture]

He’s right

[lone cloud]

everyone does lol

[uncut dragon]

Question do u have red and blue team chemlights on body for multiplayer like in solo ?

[pine drum]

Yeah

[pine drum]

This game's devs are half genus, half trying to shove a circle block into a square hole.

[cursive minnow]

genius*

[rough orchid]

You can either run and gun or get all of the suspects to surrender and group them all together.

It's the same process as sleeper agent but with extra steps.

And much harder.

Run and gun approach is getting lucky with suspects spawning close together and killing them all.

[urban mural]

Wait do I get the heremit at any score if I not lose officers?

[amber dock]

No I still think you need C grade on port

Sadly

[rough orchid]

Or you can get all of them to surrender, take their weapons, close the weapon caches and get the call the ai to arrest them when they are close together.

[rough orchid]

For extra spice, try getting the hermit and the hanged man at the same time.

[urban mural]

So is only port where I need C score for the heremit?

[amber dock]

Yeah

[urban mural]

Ig the best way is just drop every suspect with lethal munitions lol.

[rough orchid]

If you kill every suspect without an unauthorized use of force but you get all the evidence and complete the objectives you should get at least a c

[urban mural]

I was running with 1 AI guy having the beanbag shotgun, now every1 runs lethal cuz I got anooyed losing, still dying or getting 1 of my guys getting dropped tho.

[rough orchid]

If you call out for them to surrender and they don't try backing away and they look at you, a majority of the time you can shoot them without consequence.

I'm going to test it just to make sure

I just tested it and as long as they are looking at you and aren't trying to surrender it seems like there isn't any punishment.

They also have to be holding a weapon of course.

In short, if they are holding a weapon and are looking at you and aren't surrendering you can shoot them without trouble.

There's still a chance you get punished though.

[pine drum]

I just LTL them when they do that

[strange depot]

Still having problems with suspects animations bugging out and making them unarrestable

And of course weapons frequently fall and clip through the map

[urban mural]

LTL?

[rough orchid]

When this happens you can try to get them to move if they have surrendered or get your ai to try. But if they are stuck in a place they can squeeze through and are stuck in they shimming animation then all you can do is kill them.

[pine drum]

Less than lethal

[languid pasture]

I gave my girl less lethal

[mossy flax]

Do you lose points for using things such as flashbangs, stingers, and rubber shells on civilians and hostages?

[strange depot]

Only if they are in a compliance state

Unauthorized use of force -50

[worn geyser]

anyone tryna play

[pine drum]

It depends...

[pine drum]

Flashbangs and tear gas don't give you unauthorized force.

[mossy flax]

If I shoot a hostage holder with a rubber shell?

I’ve never done that but I’m curious

[covert aurora]

more then likely yes

[warped cave]

happened to me last night 🙏

i hope i can have it happen again

what about my AI?

[rough orchid]

If you run and gun they can help other wise have them hold at the start

[languid pasture]

What about it?

[warped cave]

ty

i think i'll try run and gun

what's a recommended spawn

[rough orchid]

The default has more places to enter from so I recommend there.

[warped cave]

alr

[languid pasture]

The training area that’s where you can spawn

[silent tide]

Any mod for KS23?

Cuz 12 gauge is not lethal enough

[buoyant pecan]

Got a nearly perfect run on Carriers of the Vine when one of the cultists just blasts the fuck out of one of my guys

[strange depot]

Sorry the team ai just isn’t good yet

[queen current]

In a future update, y'all think we'll be able to track down the heads of the human trafficking organization that Voll was a part of? Honestly valley and the container gave me PTSD that I'd like to resolve by killing someone (in game though). I know the next update will be a revamp of two previous maps, but after that?

[warped cave]

that'd be sick

if i use a mod (the m32a1 grenade launcher) to finish the Sleeper agent by securing everyone will it count

i can use flashbangs, stingers, and 9 bangers

[strange depot]

When’s the next newsletter supposed to release?

[pearl zinc]

is the p90 a reliable gun if known suspects are un-armored or lightly-armored

[crude prism]

very

[strange depot]

This guy stole swat 4 leads voice and used ai to add new lines and cover all the existing judge lines in the game. One of the best voice mods out there

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3898

It’s scarily good. Ai is freaky

[iron shard]

how do i get a balaclava lol

im assuming there is one

[covert aurora]

under character customization in the locker in MP look for the echo character

[iron shard]

ohhhhh

tyty

[covert aurora]

np

[mossy flax]

Never give the AI an M1014, this Mf just Decapitated 2 civilians and THEN gets incapacitated by the suspect🤔

[white cove]

Hi there, one clarification please.
About the upcoming Console release of ron. The digital editions release date is set for July 15.
Does the same apply for the physical edition release of the game? Or is it on a different date?

[lament hill]

pretty sure both editions release at the same time

[languid pasture]

It would make sense that they do

[languid pasture]

We’re is Raccoon?

[shell bridge]

what the fuck did I just witness

On the mission where you arrest Gerald, in the basement I threw a CS Gas, he started coughing but it wasn't enough to make him drop the weapon

I punched him one (1) time and he fell dead

I was thinking wow well I just failed the objective to take him alive

And when I reported him dead and tried to restrain him, he came back to life and started coughing

10/10 cinema

And ik it might be intentional, there is an achievement for arresting a suspect acting dead but is alive

[vale galleon]

Is there a way to report bugs? Bcs i have the 509 pistol equipped and it doesnt make damage. I can empty all mags into an suspect but no reaction

[tacit gull]

#1050535723087958156

That doesn't sound right though

Unless you're using mods or something

[vale galleon]

no mods just the 509 with RMR dot scope, GM suppressor and a laser pointer with AP ammo

[crude prism]

aim harder

[tired jungle]

Bug, restart the map

[vale galleon]

I have this Bug since a week and i started the Game Like 6 time or Something Like that

[languid pasture]

Good morning RONSTERS

[shadow oasis]

how do i check what the traits do for my AI on commmander mode

[shell bridge]

Open the tablet, go in roster

there will be trait description for your team

[uncut dragon]

https://youtu.be/D0RhZ5J1LpE?si=xf3UX5a3_ipF8R25

[amber dock]

Pinned document in this channel tells you what traits does iirc

[pine drum]

I feel like that some of the suspects should have more homemade firearms like the Luty SMG.

[uncut dragon]

@ebon flax

[spring saddle]

yo

last time i downloaded mods and i turned it off for achievements it was buggy. I couldnt get achievements again until I reinstalled RON. does this still applly today?

[amber dock]

Mods have never been a issue when it comes to unlocking achievements.

Even since game achievements you could always have used mods no issues

[spring saddle]

oh

maybe im just remebering stuff incorrectly

[amber dock]

If you didn’t unlock a achievement then you did something wrong

But to answer your question, you can use mods and get achievements no issues

[spring saddle]

well i guess im not necessarily going for achievements mroe so unlocking all the items and cosmetics I've unlocked alot by now but I wasn't downloading mods because of that. I think i saw a message before stating something but i guess i misunderstood

[amber dock]

Yeah that is same thing

Mods don’t hinder that either in any way

So use mods all you want

[spring saddle]

fuck yeah

im going to download the maps i heard some swat 4 maps were remade

[amber dock]

Oh yes

Very well made too

[spring saddle]

oh damn they even got the old farm man i missed that map. i wished we had the option to play any beta map that didnt makew the cut or was extrmely altered

[amber dock]

This coming update we are getting 2 old maps back apparently

So could be something

[shut echo]

whats a good deadly/lethal gun? playing with a terrorist mod on lol

[amber dock]

Any of the high caliber ones

M14,SA58,GA51

[shut echo]

thanks 🙏

[spring saddle]

miss old school R6 and ghost recon

TERRORIST HUNT

someone should make a swat 3 skins lol those 'futuristic helmets'

[finite seal]

might this be the legendary staircase?

[amber dock]

I doubt it would be that one

People speculate it’s Fast food and another unreleased map

[finite seal]

sigh...

another year.. another day without the staircase....

[urban mural]

When we gonna get a debanco robbery situation?

[languid pasture]

We’re is my f#%k

[tacit gull]

There is a staircase though

[shy tulip]

Many staircases

[harsh hound]

Would y’all consider the deluxe pre-order version worth it?

[frosty drift]

G3A3

[short crow]

If you shoot someone ingame in the head with a shotgun does it blow up

[amber dock]

Yeah

Sometimes at least

[short crow]

Thx mate

[silver palm]

You’ll 99 percent of the time find someone that owns the DLCs so

[mossy flax]

Does using suppression give any benefits on missions?

[amber dock]

not really

Ai don't really care

[mossy flax]

That’s what I was thinking

[amber dock]

You could fire a LMG at them and their aim would be just as good

for you as player though it's a diff story

[mossy flax]

If I have my ai running a shotgun, should I give them slugs or bucks

[uncut dragon]

Really ?

[mossy flax]

Last time I gave him buckshot, he decapitated a civilian

[amber dock]

of course

[uncut dragon]

It's a shame

[amber dock]

not smart enough about ron guns to know

[mossy flax]

For Idles Of March should I enter through Fire Exit or Residential Stairwell

[weak berry]

Cant wait for the ronsole release but bc I know when it drops its gonna feel like forever

[amber dock]

I've always done fire exit

[urban mural]

Is that where you start in a T section?

[amber dock]

Uhhhh

The one where there is a small stairs to your left

sorry meant right

[crude rune]

So were they ready?

[urban mural]

I mean 1 starting point has a T section when you enter and the other starting point has an L shape where you decide where to go and on the right side there is the laundry.

[crude rune]

i don’t know because i haven’t played the game yet

[amber dock]

the one where it spawns you so you have the main room straight ahead

if you go right you go to one of the suites while left takes you to laundry

[mossy flax]

Does cosmetic customization affect any actual gameplay? Such as if my loadout is ceramic light armor, but my customization is the LSPD Heavy Vest would that affect any actual gameplay

[amber dock]

no

[mossy flax]

Okay

To confirm, the speed in which you complete a mission does not matter unless there is hostages and active shooters or bombs, correct?

[amber dock]

yeah

[urban mural]

The Elephant (college shooting) you need to be fast shooters will excuse civilians no matter what + there are 2 bombs that you need take care of. Relapse (terrorists at the hospital), suspects won't kill hostages but there are 2 bombs that you need take care of and there is a dlc mission where the main bad guy orders to his minions to execute hostages... + In some missions the suspects will take hostages, do not get near them cuz they will kill the hostage and AI teammates will just straight up shoot at the suspect and just won't care about the hostage, in that case just gas them...

[crude rune]

i pre ordered RoN today

[crude rune]

i have to rescue hostages and take out the suspects at the same time? that seems difficult

[amber dock]

not really

the active shooter mission is really simple if you just push the suspects and ignore the civs

It becomes harder if you waste time tying up civs

[wet moat]

Tear gas, flashbangs will help

[urban mural]

The Elephant and the boat dlc mission suspects AI will kill civilians automatically, meanwhile the other missions have the possibility of the suspects taking a civilian and holding the civvy as hostage...

[amber dock]

but it doesn't run on a timer

[urban mural]

The only missions I had this was the gas station and the streamer mostly...

[amber dock]

if a suspect has someone hostage the behaviour is coded to not have a timer

[urban mural]

Unlike the bombs...

[amber dock]

compared to active shooter or bombs

they will only act if they spot you in their LOS

otherwise they will just keep holding them hostage

[crude rune]

But dealing with suspects is the hard part. i’ve heard of this game before. and if the shooter mission is in a smaller area, it’s more likely to easily be downed

[amber dock]

not really

[urban mural]

Active Shooter missions happen in huge maps.

[amber dock]

they are very spaced out on all maps

[crude rune]

i might be misinformed then

[fading parcel]

I can’t wait for July 15 because il have more of an understanding of actual gameplay to be able to have a good conversation about it

[queen trench]

your connection to the host has been lost. @amber dock why do i get that message everytime? sorry for tagging

[amber dock]

Lots of reasons really

but there isn't much that can really be done to prevent it since ron atm uses peer to peer servers

So you can try running without mods if you have any of any kind, try maybe you hosting instead or vice versa. also make sure that none in the party are using VPNs or anythign that might alter or change network traffic

[queen trench]

what is vice versa?

[amber dock]

having other people host

vice versa is a english term

google if you don't know what it means

[queen trench]

well im trying to join a public game and i keep getting that message after the loading screen is done loading

and everytime i host a game people join and leave inst

[amber dock]

yeah like I said it's hard to prevent the issue due to what kind of servers ron uses atm

[queen trench]

damn

[amber dock]

you might have more luck asking in #🔎looking-for-players to find people in your region

[queen trench]

alright

[desert island]

how come sometimes when u kill civilians the swat AI dont care but sometimes they do

[amber dock]

just their programming:D

MMMMO is gonna slap me in the face now with stats

im scared

[crude prism]

in order to not grief the player (accidental civilian kills WILL happen in normal gameplay) there is a rudimentary system that determines whether a kill is on purpose or not

afaik it works like this:

"accidental":
wallbang injury/kills
injury/kill on un-surrendered civilians during gunfights (suspects have to be currently engaged with the player)

"on purpose":
any kill on a surrendered civilian, even during gunfights or through a wall
injury/kill on un-surrendered civilian when suspects are not engaged with the player
killing surrendered suspects

[mossy flax]

Can someone tell me what I’m supposed to do rn????? Literally started a mission and I’m deadass missing an officer and my team isn’t responding to orders???

The bottom right log shows my whole team’s presence but I physically only have three teammates

[amber dock]

commander mode?

[mossy flax]

Yes

[amber dock]

you made sure your roster is full?

[mossy flax]

Yes

[amber dock]

if you press fall in command

[mossy flax]

I can’t even send pictures because this server doesn’t allow that

[amber dock]

does every show up?

[mossy flax]

Officer Jung on the bottom right is stuck on the “Move To” command

And I can’t leave without lowering everyone’s mental health

This is bullshit

[amber dock]

does using any other command not work?

[crude prism]

if you press T and cycle through the team cams... are there 4 team cams?

[mossy flax]

“Open and clear” does not work, as they await the whole team to stack up

[amber dock]

what map is it btw

[mossy flax]

Ends of earth, the beach house

[mossy flax]

Jung’s cam is just white

If I close RON and re open does it lower my teams mental health?

[amber dock]

no

alt F4

[mossy flax]

Aight

[amber dock]

it won't save progrees

[mossy flax]

That’s fine

[amber dock]

game won't save progress until you reach the scoreboard screen

[mossy flax]

Alr thanks, I’ll just retry it, I’ve never seen this bug before

[amber dock]

neither have i

[desert island]

ive executed surrendered suspects without punishment before

does it mean cuffed suspects

[crude prism]

there's a time window from when they give up to being properly "surrendered"

[desert island]

just trying to beat the game in under 2 hours

gotta figure out how to kill 1 civilian to skip capturing civilians

[crude prism]

easiest way is to just open a door, aim at their position, and then close the door and shoot

as long as they aren't surrendered yet, it'll be an unpunished kill

[desert island]

sounds good

worked on the chef

[grand meteor]

so

when does ready or not get new maps?

[covert aurora]

Next month

[grand meteor]

yknow where the game isnt boring because of how long its taking to get a simple map

nothing to do, i have all S

the modded maps are usually bugged or don't work.

[amber dock]

Bugged in what way?

Or don’t work in what way?

[grand meteor]

random people dying

[amber dock]

Cause all modded maps I have work fine

[amber dock]

Players or Ai?

[grand meteor]

AI

[amber dock]

Couldn’t it be that’s what the creator of the map had intended?

[grand meteor]

well its also

one update, fucks all the mods up

[amber dock]

Maps are sure fire way to happen yes

That’s part of game design

[grand meteor]

and i cantadd guns into the game, they dont work.

[amber dock]

Void adds new stuff to the code and everything that makes custom maps not really work in the game

[grand meteor]

its in my mods file nothing loads.

[amber dock]

And it takes time for the mapping people to fix it without a SDK

[amber dock]

Well they won’t work if they are not up to date, missing dependencies or not followed instructions on installing them

Plenty of gun mods work if you install them correctly and not using in game mod menu

[grand meteor]

whats wrong with OG maps to

make that a DLC, easy maps

[shadow oasis]

on certain occasions which idk specificalyl but when i order AI to search and secure they search the whole map but when i do it other times they either stay still or just search the whole room

[desert island]

searching map shuld just make them path to everything with perfect clairvoyance

instead of just literally checking everything

or at least have a button to clean map if all suspects are dead

welp i keep gettin killd by AI for shootin civilians behind doors

my speedrun 😭

[torn trail]

I wonder if there will be more missions on the spider arc

[desert island]

spiderrussians, handterrorists, cartel, leftbehindvets

then theres fisa

[iron nebula]

What missions are in the base game?

[urban mural]

Los Locos are the cartel right?

[desert island]

yeah

[desert island]

when we getting a bank robbery

[urban mural]

Debanco moment tho...

[royal osprey]

will female officers be added to RoN

[vapid mirage]

guys does anyone know how to stop civs from being killed at mirage on sea?

[scarlet flax]

Have to zip the objective arrest.

Be fast and stealthy.

[pine drum]

Be quick, and be precise. All I can tell.

[desert island]

are they going to change how the shotgun ammo is displayed

[crude rune]

I love pre ordering stuff.

Honestly I don’t know if my Xbox will be able to survive RoN

[rigid depot]

Devs kinda missed out on making the neon tomb terrorists saying alluh akbar ngl

[merry bloom]

They have arabic voicelines

[urban mural]

They are not religious extremists, they just seek revenge due to bombings on Yemen.

[shell scaffold]

If I install a mod from nexus mods and play with friends (who didn’t install it themselves) and I host, will it show up for them too?

[merry bloom]

Yeah I was gonna say that but Ig it wouldn’t be too far fetched

They might not be extremist muslims but they probably aren’t non believers either.

[shell scaffold]

if we turn off checksums in the settings?

[crude prism]

anything that adds content, no, they would need to also install the mods

if you host, you CAN use things like AI mods/in game menu without them needing to mod

[brisk scaffold]

The devs are from a Muslim country so that's probably a No-No LOL

[cursive minnow]

The game studio is based out of Ireland and they state they have 10 different nationalities in their team so Idk where this claim of being from a "Muslim country" comes from.

[haughty bane]

im looking at making a short video that uses ready or not, i plan on taking some video tomorrow around 8pm est, if anyone (like 5 people) would be ok downloading maybe 2 or 3 mods and matching uniforms and take an hour to shoot some stuff, dm me or add me, i am new to making videos so ill just be using the replay in game for now. nothing crazy

[cedar mulch]

Los Locos is a subordinate organisation of the Sonoran Cartel.

[odd lava]

By God, I went through the effort to S rank greased palms, and I have been searching for a random gun on the ground for the past 20 minutes. I still have not found it

Nvm, it wasn't a gun, and my S rank was bust without me knowing the whole time 😭

[mossy flax]

Which rifle does the most damage per bullet

[odd lava]

I'd guess any of the battle rifles

[cursive minnow]

Yea anything that shoots 7.62x51 seems to be where it's at for that just taking a quick glance at the google doc spread sheet in the pinned messages. I'd recommend checking that for full details.

[stable kernel]

Unfortunately despite the higher damage, they are not enough to one tap in the chest on the more difficult maps that have higher health suspects

Thus they end up in the same shots to incap as 5.56 weapons which are easier to manage for the most part

No reason to not run 5.56 ap on every map IMO, very consistent

(this is where spreadsheet man comes in and corrects me)

Ok so it is a 3 tap to the chest on lethal obession

Might be 2 if you get an arm hit on the way

[sand slate]

I don’t know what any of this means 😔

[violet dagger]

Does CS gas do any damage, or is it simply a stun?

[patent axle]

Suspects have a 20% chance to die from cs

[violet dagger]

Huh, didn't know that. Is that an enemy-specific thing, or does that apply to everyone (besides gas mask people)

[patent axle]

Everyone dies regardless of gas mask

[violet dagger]

ok, are we talking about the same thing? because I feel like people with GAS MASKS shouldn't die from gas.

[patent axle]

Ron logic

[violet dagger]

I suppose

[mossy flax]

Does an injured officer make S Rank impossible

[crude prism]

he's trolling, lol

[violet dagger]

oh

😦

[mossy flax]

Dude, does an injured officer make S rank impossible

[violet dagger]

no

[crude prism]

and to answer your question, CS/pepperball gas DOES do damage, but it's so little you'd have to go out of your way to actually knock out or kill someone with it

(5 seconds for 1 point of damage, 800 seconds to knock out a suspect, another 800 to kill)

[violet dagger]

only a dead officer

[mossy flax]

Does an incapacitated (NOT DEAD) suspect make it impossible

[violet dagger]

I don't think so, but ii'd find a better source than me

[mossy flax]

Beanbag headshot so happens to be lethal I think

[violet dagger]

BeanBag headshot is lethal

[mossy flax]

Rip my s rank

[crude prism]

if a suspect stays ragdolled when cuffed, they are only worth 5/35 points and will fail the S rank requirement

(whether they are dead or just incapacitated)

[mossy flax]

Rq, I have 2 more questions. Is it best to leave your ai team at the spawn on elephant? And do you have to hurry on neon tomb? Like are they gonna kill hostages if you take too long?

[crude prism]

no and no

[violet dagger]

Im confident that hostage kills are just random

(dont listen to me)

[mossy flax]

Will do

[stable kernel]

[amber dock]

Go sleep

[violet dagger]

its only 2:58 am

[crude prism]

don't worry, I saw. there's just no correcting needed

[amber dock]

You all stay up so late

[violet dagger]

nuh uh

[amber dock]

Not you

The stare man

[stable kernel]

5.56 confirmed best

[amber dock]

Idc about when you guys go to sleep

I only care about the stare man

[violet dagger]

😦

[amber dock]

Go sleep

[stable kernel]

[amber dock]

I will make you fall asleep if you don’t go sleep now

[crude prism]

there's a conversation to be had for .300blk considering how much of a laser beam the ARN-18 is still

idk, a good player can just hammer the 7.62x51 guns with extreme accuracy, so the extra capacity of the more controllable calibers isn't needed

it's all personal preference (except for handgun catridges, which are all awful)

[violet dagger]

Am I ready or not to attempt Valley of the Dolls S rank?

[crude prism]

do you have an emotional parachute at the ready?

[violet dagger]

noo...

[amber dock]

Or hear me out here….

Just hit your shots

[stable kernel]

But muh mag capacity to obtain fire superiority through volume due to modern doctrine

I need my reskined ar-15 platform

[tawdry laurel]

Anyone got any cool ideas for future dlc maps? Could go anywhere with a game like this but here’s a few of mine;
Soccer/football stadium
Museum
Amusement park
Shopping mall
Big swanky hotel
Middle Eastern compound
Theatre/cinema

Anyone else got any good ones? I’m aware the Middle East one isn’t thet fitting but it would just be fun 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

[crude prism]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that police probably shouldn't be performing "volume of fire" tactics

[violet dagger]

I'm 14/18 for Medal of Valor, but I'm mostly scared of the big bad elephant and Neon Tomb

[amber dock]

Tell that to suspects on the map who light us up the second they see us with modified Ar 15s

[stable kernel]

Well you know, there is a reason patrol officers get glocks instead of muh two world wars .45

🤓

[amber dock]

@covert aurora tell stare man to go sleep

[crude prism]

Elephant is EZPZ, and Neon is perfectly viable for S rank gaming, love Neon.

[covert aurora]

@stable kernel you should sleep, I am gonna head off to sleep as well

[violet dagger]

what about Greased Palms? any advice?

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-malo-gif-4212826457618239961

alright boys, the mods are all heading out for the night

[stable kernel]

[covert aurora]

but why?

[crude prism]

how much advice do you want? because there's definitely a drawn map somewhere with my recommendation

[amber dock]

Don’t try anything

[violet dagger]

well, i keep dying

[amber dock]

If you try anything mmmmoo

https://tenor.com/view/ralsei-minigun-gif-27070688

[crude prism]

"mmmmoo" - 🐮

[amber dock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/606497915287896076/1151198605806424204/received_972118890565623.gif

[covert aurora]

anywho, off to sleep i go cause work

[crude prism]

hot greased palms tip #1: wait for M32A1 rotary launcher with console patch

[amber dock]

Thanks for helping with stare man

[violet dagger]

second tip that i can do now?

[crude prism]

do you still have a soul?

[covert aurora]

i tried!

😛

[violet dagger]

i already sold that do buy Home Invasion and get S rank on Relaspe

[crude prism]

red X's being "wedge here" and blue/red/yellow lines being the teams

[violet dagger]

tf is cancer

[crude prism]

just the main shelve room, giant with tons of deep cover and a visual clusterfuck

[violet dagger]

ah

ill try that now

[crude prism]

when outside, if you can tag suspects inside with nonlethal, ordering them to shuffle out to you on their knees can keep you from getting into awkward arrest positions
(but it can be very tedious/time consuming)

[stable kernel]

And you failed

[violet dagger]

yippee S rank elephant

i gave up on greased palms:( its hard

nvm i go bac

[amber dock]

But I haven’t yet

I will call you if you don’t go to sleep

[violet dagger]

where did my messages go?

[marble sequoia]

wow

[violet dagger]

what happen?

[gusty kayak]

Is it me or when i play and finish the narcos mission i see like other swat members taking the suspects away

[amber dock]

Trailer units, basically clean up crew

[gusty kayak]

Since when did they have trailer units

[amber dock]

Since 1.0

But they have been very buggy in terms of when and how they show

Up

I think for now they only spawn in on quick play

So no commander mode etc

[gusty kayak]

That explains why

[amber dock]

So it’s easy to miss

[gusty kayak]

I literally just saw like 2 of them earlier in my gameplay

Do they have trailer units in other maps or is it just narcos

[amber dock]

They can show up on all vanilla maps yeah

[gusty kayak]

Thats kinda cool

[shell bridge]

Which gun is GA51 supposed to be

Is it a fictional stripped down version of G3A3? Or does it exist in real life

[amber dock]

Probs does exist

All guns in Ron are based off or are guns that exist irl

[cedar mulch]

HK51

[shell bridge]

thanks

[marble sequoia]

all the guns that swat have in real life will we have in game?

[amber dock]

No

I mean we can get close to that number

[marble sequoia]

how close are we do you think?

[amber dock]

But SWAT units always look for new guns, new variants come out and some stuff are secret not made public that it’ll realistically be impossible to keep up with all guns that swat units have

[amber dock]

To American swat units I’d say we are close enough

Globally we are very far off

[marble sequoia]

thats true thank you you been helpful

[cedar mulch]

Is this just my imagination, or is it true? I believe the DDM4PDW has the fastest rate of fire among all rifles.

[marble sequoia]

its doesnt have the fastest rate

[crude prism]

it's tied for fastest with like half the other rifles

[violet dagger]

Is it known whether there will ever be a double-barreled shotgun?

[crude prism]

for us? probably not

[violet dagger]

what do you mean?

like dev only?

[crude prism]

nah, suspects already use sawed-off double barrel shotguns

[violet dagger]

oh

so its possible?

[crude prism]

"eh", just as possible as them giving us the Tec-9s, RPDs, Makarovs, etc

(unlikely)

[violet dagger]

i see, welp ill go be big sad in the corner then:(

[crude prism]

ikr, I'd love a "budget bin" arsenal update

just for funsies

[violet dagger]

a challenge mode would be fun

[bitter mason]

through mods you might be able to get a double barrel to use

dont see why a swat team would ever use one tho so I wouldnt count on it being added to vanilla

[tacit gull]

We just got a bear hunting pistol in the game

[bitter mason]

this is true

[tacit gull]

i wouldn't count it out anymore

[bitter mason]

but at least that will be useful I dont see a double barrel ever being that good

they seem to like adding dumb guns that are atleast modern rather than dumb guns that are outdated

maybe they will just slap a rail on it

[tacit gull]

🤮

overmodernization has been a disaster for the arsenal of ready or not

[bitter mason]

what if mp5sd but void said top rail you cant remove

[tacit gull]

we already have the mp5a3 with the unusable ironsights cause of the forced rail

[bitter mason]

m14? put a rail on it

[tacit gull]

scar H?

err

not enough rail

put an extender on the end of it

[bitter mason]

g36c? too much rail remove the carry handle

[marble sequoia]

stack up on me

[wraith basin]

True. All we need is basic PASGT helmet, 90's outfit and gear with M4A1 and MP5

[shell bridge]

preach

[short crow]

can you carry arrested suspects?

[wraith basin]

Yess

[short crow]

No mods required?

[wraith basin]

Nope. When they are arrested, stand in front of them and it gives you option to carry them

[short crow]

😈 time for war crimes

[bitter mason]

Errm it would just be normal crimes 🤓

[shell bridge]

well that would be true if you could throw them

For me that key is unassigned, idk how to bind it

[short crow]

Right

[shell bridge]

can only place them :(

[bitter mason]

Its just right click by default

I dont believe they can take fall damage or anything

[short crow]

I meant to put them all in a place then open fire

[shell bridge]

funnier this way

[bitter mason]

with ragdolls return they can sometimes glitch out and go flying when you throw them. That might even just be vanilla ragdolls tho tbh

[shell bridge]

they are just mildly annoyed by judge's tomfoolery

[bitter mason]

Judge is but a harmless trickster

[shell bridge]

just want to thank VOID btw, for the ability to pick up magazines if it has ammo in it

[violet dagger]

Judge is but a 7-year-old who drank 8 liters of dr pepper and needs to find the one last Glock that is chilling in a corner under a desk

[crude rune]

I hate games with hostage situations, because I don’t want anyone to die, but I also know I suck at gunplay. So I’m more than likely gonna die, or let the others die by my inefficient “get your ass moving” abilities

[bitter mason]

You should have seen the hostage rescue gamemode in early access, that was just impossible

suspects and civs usually spawned together, sometimes they'd be split in two different areas but when the suspects got a wiff of you they started killing hostages. It was also bugged just before game modes got scrapped with 1.0 and they didnt even need to be properly alerted, they'd just kill the hostages the second you moved lol

[shell bridge]

well one mission from that era survived ig

[charred topaz]

When the game comes out on consoles, will it be a digital-only version or a physical one as well?

[amber dock]

both

[silver palm]

Both is good

@dim river The date has been changed

[forest knot]

the hospital mission made me crash out

tf do you mean bombs

[amber dock]

bombs.

[forest knot]

i just got done

wiping out rooms by rooms

and you mean to tell me there were bombs the whole time

hn

[amber dock]

You didn't check your tablet huh

[forest knot]

nope

I listened to the briefing and saw it was a run and gun hostage situation

didn't read the bomb part

[shell bridge]

actually that's better and the game shouldn't tell you there are any bombs

Only after you find the 1st one, should the objective appear

[forest knot]

nuh uh, cause fym theres a minute left on the timer

[shell bridge]

same with that other mission ahem ahem

[forest knot]

the school mission also told you that

[urban mural]

The same thing is with the Streamer mission, that guy got trolled or swatted tho and the police thought it was real and after you find out more shit...

[forest knot]

oh

haven't done it

im going through commander mode

spazzed out after realizing there were bombs

[urban mural]

I wonder tho if the person that called the police wanted to troll the streamer or get him caught or whatever...

[glass saffron]

I feel it could be for almost all of those reasons just spread out by several different viewers of his in game stream

[ashen scroll]

I finished all achievements in the game, I thought it would be cool and nice but now its more like a curse cause idk what to do anymore with the game

[bitter mason]

fr where is the voice line where judge calls in the bombs are there

where are any of the mission specific voice lines other than the container on port and the radio hails on dark water

[shell bridge]

I hope they add more mission specific voice lines

[bitter mason]

they better

its just wrong without them

[shell bridge]

Either do that or it confirms the theory that Judge is a USIA Sleeper Agent not phased by anything

Except for Hide and Seek, rain's white noise made him lose the programming

[bitter mason]

so unphased he doesnt bother reporting critical updates to the mission

and toc is so good he doesnt even need to say anything when you defuse one he just says "Toc reporting...."

[shell bridge]

"Oh what's that, an IED? Connected to a bunch of wires I possibly can't understan- and defused. Entry to TOC, all bombs defused, bring out the champagne"

[shell bridge]

he's probably watching subway surfers on the side, wouldn't blame him

[bitter mason]

he got the visual stimulation on that chest tablet thingy

[bitter mason]

ty ty

[stable kernel]

Which is better chat

[bitter mason]

I have to go with the swat 4 one but Im bias

[desert island]

which enemies have lv4 body armor

as in their apperance

[bitter mason]

some can have it on sins of the father I think the only other one is Qadamah on Neon Tomb

oh appearance uuuh no clue

[stable kernel]

That is the wonderful thing

You can't see the plates cause they are covered, and in this game they don't even need to have a mesh or visual for it

You can tell what they have by the particle/sound of the hit though

[bitter mason]

elephant suspects also have level 4 but yeah in terms of visuals you wouldnt be able to tell anyways just weather they have armour or not but thats not even reflected on in game properly

[stable kernel]

Smaller white puff is kevlar, bigger hard sound is ceramic, and steel is sparks with a metal hit

[desert island]

how much can AP penetrate through walls

[frail pier]

Nothing is fleshy damage

[urban mural]

I never cared about the armor level tho...

[pine drum]

Just downloaded a drone mod.

Makes me think they should add that in the base game.

[bitter mason]

easiest way they could do drones is just have them function like the dark waters chopper

some maps already have drones flying around they just currently scenery

[crude rune]

I don’t understand this

[stable kernel]

"You're in my spot, sir."

[pine drum]

It's a swat 4 reference.

[pine drum]

Yeah but the mod has direct control drones.

[crude rune]

I’ve never played. I thought it was RoN for a day and a half.

[pine drum]

Eh, I mean it's seen as the predecessor game to RoN

It's a bit more realistic when it comes to the world as a whole, and is based in NYC during the late 90s and Early 2000s I think.

[pine drum]

This one

[stable kernel]

Good choice

[crude rune]

So does RoN have a story, or is it just “see the bad guys? Go gettem champ”

[bitter mason]

it has a story but not told very well imo

[pine drum]

It has a story, but it's very campy. It's like a crime drama.

[bitter mason]

each mission has briefings some dont really line up great with the actual mission but generally accurate enough.
Most of the story you get from the enviornmental story telling and little hidden notes or things to read or listen to around a level

[crude rune]

So what’s the story then

[pine drum]

I don't think it's anywhere as bad as they say.

[bitter mason]

Its fine but I think it could be better

[crude rune]

All I know of, is elephant. Because a video.

[pine drum]

I still don't get what you mean by the briefing being inacurrate other than like... The mention of other elements you never see.

[bitter mason]

You're a swat officer and you respond to various crimes throught the city of Los Suenos (Fictionalised LA) The missions themselves have their own stories to them and some connect to one another. Theres also a deeper sort of conspiracy sub plot but theres nothing really concrete about that. a lot is just piecing things together yourself

[bitter mason]

Most are fine inacurracies arent like, huge

but they are there

and thats a problem

[pine drum]

I think the map inconsistencies are fine and on purpose... Not to mention it could be explained away as the LSPD not having accurate due to the situation being chaotic

Like it's very common for police to get wrong info.

[bitter mason]

Im not on about the map inconsistencies, they should be inconsistent (thought it should be mentioned in the briefing if they reliable or not which they dont)

[crude rune]

So I looked up the story. Oh my god what have I pre ordered.

[bitter mason]

ready or not

[pine drum]

Back at it again with the wanting hand holding.

/j

[bitter mason]

very funny

[pine drum]

But I understand, I feel like that's more preferential. I feel like them not telling you makes it so you have to improvise on the spot which adds extra challenge. Also, isn't it sometimes implied that there might be bad info?

Like the best example I can think of is Neon Tomb, purely because of the pool room.

[crude rune]

Dude… that’s some shit.

[pine drum]

What?

[crude rune]

The story. It’s something crazy.

[pine drum]

I mean... Yeah, I won't argue that.

Damn Zeppelin always being oversensitive...

[crude rune]

Whar

[bitter mason]

Thank you come again has suspect and civilian profiles of characters that arent unique spawns and are all presented as generic suspects or civs in the actual level,
Twisted nerve has something completely made up about an underground garage that doesnt exist.
Ends of the earth has constantly contradicting information not just in the briefing but through the whole level about who tipped the police off about the gun modding, and not like a cool mysterious way it is just literally contradictory
The detective that should be alive on Dealer is just nowhere to be seen, he has voice lines in the game files but his NPC doesnt exist.
Stuff like that

[pine drum]

It's a moderation bot, and it will delete messages that involve topics the story covers.

[crude rune]

I don’t know what I said that made it active like that.

[bitter mason]

I mean it should just be like, critical for the briefing part of the swat operation to let the team know if the maps they have are reliable. It lets you prepare for improve and stops the players from just getting confused when the maps dont add up

[pine drum]

Eventually I just learned to adapt. 🤷

[bitter mason]

ofc

but its just obvious quality issues with the game

[pine drum]

And again, I think that's on purpose.

[crude rune]

Hold on rq

[bitter mason]

eh I just think its an oversight really

[pine drum]

But yeah, I know why the fuck they removed the detective, he did something really fucking stupid before 1.0

[bitter mason]

he didnt exist before 1.0 either lol

[pine drum]

He was in the teasers.... His dumbass would pull out a badge when you shouted at him, which everyone pointed out how dumb that was for a trained officer.

Like he'd reach behind his damn back.

[crude rune]

Ight I got my money baccckkkkk

[bitter mason]

that wasnt him in the teaser that was just a random cop
but yeah it would be dumb but not a reason he would be removed

[bitter mason]

not for you?

I would recommend the game if you're looking for something like it dont let my bitchin put you off lol

I just like bitchin :p

[pine drum]

I always assumed the officer was a random dude there. I remember seeing someone and going "Yeah you must be the undercover officer."

[pine drum]

Yeah that's pretty obvious...

[bitter mason]

nah he has voice lines in the game files. there are two detectives one already dead, the other alive. He is meant to be mixed in with the suspects and I assume he would surrender upon contact with the swat team

SWAT 4 did something similar :)

[pine drum]

There's custom maps that do that, but I think the play testers probably shot him a fuck ton.

[warped moon]

is this game worth it

[pine drum]

Because they see he has a gun, and opens up

[bitter mason]

and if you havent played swat 4 I would recommend it with the first responders mod since it makes it a bit more like RON and doesnt have progression

[bitter mason]

thats on them lol

target ID thats why you get his photo in the briefing

[warped moon]

is this game worth it

[bitter mason]

I think it would have been neat for it to be RNG which one was dead and which one was alive so you have to remember both of them, and if you find the body first you can then tell who is alive

[pine drum]

Nah, I agree. However I remember seeing a civie NPC with a pistol holster on his belt who looks similar to the dude in Narcos who's downed. Yeah that was probably him, but they probably removed his more unique lines so he kinda just blends in.

[bitter mason]

yeah if it looks like your sort of thing

[warped moon]

ill prob refund bcs I don think my pc can run this game

[bitter mason]

darn

[warped moon]

If not I’ll get it on ps

[bitter mason]

yeah the guy in narcos is the detective that should be in dealer

they double down and acknowledge he should be there but he isnt

I have not come across such a civvie tho

but if that is him then they need to use his voice lines and have an objective tied to him

[pine drum]

I fully admit I might of have misremembered, but I don't think I did.

[warped moon]

how much fps yall be getting on the game

[crude rune]

No, the shit I’ve seen for the story is like, out of my comfort zone. Like it’s a hard “no” for me.

[bitter mason]

fair enough 👍

[pine drum]

Yeah there's human trafficking. Even my ass got uncomfortable during hide and seek.

[bitter mason]

well I usually strain between like 40 and 50 on my rig but its not the best

[warped moon]

What settijgs

[bitter mason]

like between low and medium I think

[crude rune]

Does Ready Or Not count as a horror? Because of the subjects in it.

[pine drum]

Actually, a lot of people say that it is.

[bitter mason]

gtx 1660ti gpu
i5 something CPU I think

[bitter mason]

yeah a lot of people would call it that

[warped moon]

How’s it horror

[bitter mason]

spooky atmosphere in most maps, tense gameplay dark subject matters

[pine drum]

I've unironically been jumpscared by getting shot at. 💀

[bitter mason]

I think we all have 💔

[pine drum]

Luckily that doesn't happen to me anymore, but I accidentally panic shot a civilian one time because of it. Mind you I was attempting to S Rank all missions before playing causally so I could just enjoy the game normally afterwards

[bitter mason]

I panic shot a suspect hesitating in the warehouse on port because the usual firefight broke out suddenly. He did surrender but I hit an artery so it was it for him 😬

[pine drum]

I'd accidentally shoot surrendering suspects because they would go from slowly lowering their weapons to throwing their guns.

[bitter mason]

I remember when bleedouts wouldnt be excluded from unauthorized force if a suspect surrendered. I had shot a guy and he bled out when surrendered and the frame he died my teammates turned on me and killed me

[bitter mason]

it happens

[warped moon]

Are there mods

[bitter mason]

the animations could do with some smoothing

[pine drum]

Ye

[somber iron]

yeah, a lot

[bitter mason]

for PC yes

[warped moon]

Like for different maps?

[bitter mason]

yep

[somber iron]

yeah

[pine drum]

Yes

[warped moon]

Oh is it less compatible

[bitter mason]

different maps, guns, cosmetics, AI behaviours and stuff. You can change how the game plays quite a bit

[warped moon]

Oh yeah steam workshop am I dumb I forgot

[somber iron]

no, use nexus

[warped moon]

🤦‍♂️

[bitter mason]

no steam workshop unfortunately

[warped moon]

Oh nvm

[pine drum]

Also, they need to increase stun and flinch on certain ai when shot.

[somber iron]

there is no workshop support

modding is easy though

[warped moon]

how then

[bitter mason]

nexus mods is the best place to get them. they're simple to install its just a drag and drop

[pine drum]

I recommend nexus.

Vortex mod manager specifically

[somber iron]

vortex isn't that great, just manual install, it's a 3 step process

[pine drum]

Idk what you're talking about.

[bitter mason]

yeah just gotta find the pak folder in ron and drop the .pak files you download into there

[somber iron]

and managing mods is easy too, so that's fun

[warped moon]

What’s the website can yall dm me

[somber iron]

nexus mods

[pine drum]

YK I remember paramilitary characters having helmets, you think those will come back and actually armor people's skulls?

[somber iron]

if you want I could play with you or guide you through stuff

[warped moon]

Yeah I just bought it 10 minute ago but it’s lowk at 9% so ima play basketball and shower and then play

Let me get nexus first

[somber iron]

alright, enjoy the game when you do play it

[warped moon]

Thanks

What do I do I’m on nexus mods website

[somber iron]

would you like to call or move to dm?

[warped moon]

Should I share screen

[somber iron]

yeah

[bitter mason]

possibly, void seem to like their paramilitary suspects

We might get to see the MLO as suspects if they're not just PVP exclusive

maybe the next dlc

[pine drum]

Wait they're adding PVP back?

Also, I feel like MLO has been fully replaced by Left behind unless they significantly rewrite or add onto their story.

Which if they add them again, probably will

[tacit gull]

I can safely tell you they have not been replaced

And yes, the PVP is still happening

[pine drum]

That's gonna be "fun"

[somber iron]

if we get pvp back, I will run around with just a taser. like old times

[bitter mason]

MLO and left behind are very different lore wise

and Dark waters alluded to the MLO

[tacit gull]

Maybe that will get the devs to finally see how BROKE the taser is

[pine drum]

They'll probably tweak it for MP

But not for SP

[somber iron]

and all of my taser friends will be running around like rats

[pine drum]

But who were the suspects on Dark Water besides the pirates? They terrorists? I thought that they were like blackwater style mercs.

[somber iron]

the oil rig guys were eco-terrorists

[pine drum]

Sorry, I meant 3 letter triad.

[somber iron]

I think they are cartel members

[pine drum]

My bad.

The Latin Americans are pirates.

The guys in tac gear, I'm not sure what they are. But I feel like they're supposed to be mercenaries

[somber iron]

on which mission?

[pine drum]

Again, 3 letter triad.

Also, are rebels rejects gonna make a return? I want to ki–... I mean arrest Nazis.

[bitter mason]

Shady PMC ex military and special forces, yknow the usual :^)

[somber iron]

just was going to say that

[bitter mason]

I believe they have some ties to the MLO and the whole weird sleeper agent conspiracy subplot

[pine drum]

Yeah, thought so.

[bitter mason]

would definitely like to see some of the old suspects void had

rebels rejects are kinda the only ones tho most got remade into something else

I seem to remember farm was gonna be cartel guys or something but also a cult

[pine drum]

It was originally PLO

[bitter mason]

PLO?

[pine drum]

Sorry, MLO

[bitter mason]

ah

I always figured those were just placeholder models

[pine drum]

Probably

[bitter mason]

I remember the old blockout for brixely talent time using the hand

[pine drum]

PFFFT

That had to be weird...

|| Still think that Judge isn't working for anyone and he's kind of just acting on his own behalf. ||

[bitter mason]

it was hostage rescue only also

[pine drum]

Ah...

[bitter mason]

lots of dead civies.....

Im happy fast food is returning, I would like the old two floor small hotel to return in some form and old port

[pine drum]

The hand are literally my least favorite faction. Not because of story or anything, no they just light your ass up the moment they see you.

[bitter mason]

I think my least favourite is the mindjot guards, they just kinda look stupid

and dont really make that much sense

I like neon tomb but hate relapse, that one is just too long for the ammount of super aggressive suspects there are

[pine drum]

If you're about to bring up how they think you're not police even though y'all announce it on a loud speaker, I'm pretty sure that's just an excuse they came up with among themselves.

[bitter mason]

maybe but like

why would these guys want to die for mindjot

they could go "Im just paid to guard the place I belong to a legitimate security company" and probably walk

even if they did know shady things were happening