👮ron-discussion

[patent axle]

Gotta be

[limber night]

Iirc in pre 1.0 he didn't had his own model, instead it spawned random civs from some respawn pool

[patent axle]

Hm

[limber night]

Oh never noticed that, I barely go there

[patent axle]

Yeah hes bald, wears white lsdc coveralls and got the tattoo right there

[limber night]

Damn

[somber urchin]

makes no sense why supressors improve accuracy

[limber night]

In theory they do, but only by reducing recoil n muzzle flinch ig, but that's only if your rifle is properly gassed and you're using right ammunition

[narrow geode]

Use sfmb
Others suck

[limber night]

But in the end it boils down to your accuracy not the rifle lol

[limber night]

Fr

Only one that has any real impact

[gleaming gorge]

I prefer to not have my Ears blown out during raid thank you, Ill keep suppressors on

Im the guy who uses the GA51

[limber night]

Is it even that loud? Every gun in the game sounds more or less the same when it comes to how loud they are

[gleaming gorge]

it is, Especially with the Muzzle Breaks

[silver palm]

Console in the next dev briefing trust

[gleaming gorge]

it's a Short barrel 308, I am pretty sure I see the Bullet sticking about a millimeter out the Barrel

[narrow geode]

Lower the volume

[limber night]

Muzzle breaks actually change the loudness in RoN? Never noticed

[limber night]

Also real

Volume sliders exist

[frail pier]

The guns aren't that loud at all tbh

[limber night]

Fr

I actually have to boot up the game to even make sure

[somber urchin]

wish stealth was a thing, sus have wallhacks

hope devs plan on updating the AI

[limber night]

Nothing new in the world of gaming

[narrow geode]

can they add winter camo before all that

[limber night]

Without a winter map ofc

Just like they add bare vests without pouches

[narrow geode]

I hate those small vests we have

[limber night]

LV119 is still the funniest one imo. They added an unfinished vest (as dlc2 released before 3dma even completed the whole set) and just called it a day

Didn't even bother to like cover up the velcro

[latent mountain]

New to da server how yall doing

[narrow geode]

Can they also remove the chemlights from them

[limber night]

It's for da visibility 💀

[narrow geode]

It looks terrible

[limber night]

Agree, the nametags are fine

But chemlight just look bad

No one even wears them like that irl

But considering they put PRC152 as a standard issue radio for the vanilla AVS I'm not surprised they slapped chemlights onto vests too

[somber urchin]

SWAT 4 had better enemy AI

[narrow geode]

Wdym
We have suspects that rush towards you
Pretty realistic
I think
Definitely

[limber night]

Real talk, whenever I played swat 4 they were just standing there 90% of time. Not like RoN doesn't do the same thing

But like, it didn't felt better or worse

[narrow geode]

Can we get color variations for the gx combat shirt

[somber urchin]

in SWAT 4 they were less suicidal and stealth actually worked

[limber night]

Real, pretty underrated shirts, better than the LSPD one

[narrow geode]

Different color variations already exist for that shirt
Just not for us
We're stuck with the camo one which looks lame

[somber urchin]

forgor about nade traps, ironman run decked in the dumbest way possible

[narrow geode]

How did you forget there is only 2 missions with traps

[limber night]

Idk if they do or not, but yeah being stuck with the multicam one is pretty lame, tho ig it's a better outcome than having yet another set of clothes that don't have matching camos

Like how badly they fucked up RG on different gear

[somber urchin]

3

[narrow geode]

It does
Those guys with tactical gear in 3 letter triad wear them

[narrow geode]

Yeah
I didn't count the flash ones

[limber night]

Never noticed, but even then Void would need to make everything match each other camo/color wise first ngl

Cuz holy moly the level of not matching gear n clothes is just absurd

50 shades of RG (if you can even call it that)

[narrow geode]

Those guys also wear one of the tactical pants that we already have
That matches with their recolor shirts
Even suspects have color matching clothing

[limber night]

Yet our guys don't

Smh

[gleaming gorge]

Lets Not Talk about the AOR1 and M81 Woodland as well, Multicam is all the rage nowadays

[limber night]

Oh the Fudd camo at least isn't on alot of stuff

But AOR1 is so funny, cuz the FCPC has a pinkish version and then a not pink one

Then the BDRTAC shirts that have very yellowish AOR1

And Sly G2s with MC Arid for somereason which is very desaturated

[gleaming gorge]

I just Want more AOR 2 with Kneepads

[limber night]

If it wasn't so yellow too

[gleaming gorge]

Kinda Funny as well, The 50 shades of FDE on some guns, I could just do an entire FDE run with my Bots with a unique primary for each

[limber night]

Fr

[gleaming gorge]

Mk16
GA416
Flux raider
B1301 Entryman
Mk17

that is the FDE loadout

[limber night]

Tbf that's just how FDE/Tanonized stuff is irl

[gleaming gorge]

I do love how they Added the ugg Boot in the DW DLC

[limber night]

Wish it was on the mK16 too

[gleaming gorge]

same

[somber urchin]

what are your fav rifles?

[gleaming gorge]

The Ar18, MP7, Mk16, and the GA51, and maybe all the Less Lethals

[vagrant zephyr]

MK17 and the MP5 SD.

[pine drum]

Are the DLC connected to the main story or no?

[gleaming gorge]

Yes

[pine drum]

So I'm guessing home invasion is first chronologically?

[gleaming gorge]

Home Invasion Happens After Hurricane Antonio, which was Present in Hide and Seek

Dark Waters is idk why COAST is making us do their work, it's their job to guard the Coasts, Now we Are VBSS operators

is Our Military Really Getting that Underfunded

[pine drum]

Well, the game does state that the LSPD had their jurisdiction increased due California passing a bill that allowed that.

[gleaming gorge]

And Three Letter Triad did Also mention that Judge had a handler from USIA, just a bit of Stuff to say

[pine drum]

So play home invasion first... Got it.

[gleaming gorge]

Pretty, sure, Gonna Check my Facts

Yeah, It was an USIA agent who contacted Judge, Checked the Audio before the Mission

[pine drum]

So he's either a USIA plant or stays in contact with them.

[gleaming gorge]

No spoilers from me

only Thing I will say, S rank levels to Truely know the Story

[pine drum]

Which I try to go for. Though I sometimes have a hard time reading the cursive letters

[pine drum]

Also, my guess is maritime law enforcement is seeing a shortage in game so they are attempting to compensate. I've seen similar things happen irl

[gleaming gorge]

yeah, and Depending on your status, if you could consider Supporter Pack canon, you are FBI HRT so you would know VBSS

[limber night]

*FISA HRT

[pine drum]

It isn't uncommon for state and federal agencies to deputize local authorities to assist them. We've seen it with the US border patrol. Seeing as the LSPD seems to know that Judge has SOME form of military training, why wouldn't they assign him?

[gleaming gorge]

yeah

[gleaming gorge]

Same thing, just for legal reasons different

[limber night]

Still weird to deploy a whole ahh swat team instead of coast guards smh

[pine drum]

Why aren't they allowed to call it the FBI? Violation of public trust?

[limber night]

I mean FBI does appear in games, like in Alan Wake 2

It's probably just to avoid potential lawsuits as FBI in RoN is shown as corrupt

[pine drum]

Yeah but with positive images

[limber night]

Same with FIB in GTA V

[pine drum]

I was about to bring up gta

[gleaming gorge]

Void entertainment Could be sued for bad Mouthing FBI and CIA, considering the conspiracies in the game, Remember RDR2 got Sued by Pinkertons

[limber night]

Yeah, but it went nowhere with Pinkertons lul

[pine drum]

Pinkerton's are a private agency

That's the difference.

[somber urchin]

7x62 absolutely mogs every other calibre

[limber night]

that caliber doesn't exists

But if u say so, then I agree

[gleaming gorge]

also, if you were meaning 7.62, which one

[limber night]

Most likely the NATO

7.62x51

[gleaming gorge]

we have 7.62x51 nato in game and I think 7.62x39

[limber night]

Yup on the SLR

[pine drum]

Yep

[somber urchin]

SA58 best gun in the game

one bullet, everything fucking collapses

[gleaming gorge]

which i will say, is basically the 300 Blackout of the Eastern world

[limber night]

What

[pine drum]

No, that's the 9×39

[gleaming gorge]

problem is that The 308 rifles Are bloodthirsty, do not Expect compliant Suspects when you shoot them with it

[limber night]

That's why I avoid using em lul

Way too overkill for this game

[gleaming gorge]

if I am doing a Lethal run, only one guy uses one, not the whole Crew

[pine drum]

You don't need to, they'll drop like a sack of potato's.

[limber night]

I just use the BULLETS HURT NOW mod

Combined with Ragdolls return it feels really good

[gleaming gorge]

I mean
Compliant Suspects give you more score than breathing and downed ones
so I try to keep it as high a rank as I can for what I do

[pine drum]

Yeah even if you have high adrenaline, I'd imagine being hit in the thigh by a 45 would hurt or make you limp

[limber night]

Well hit by anything would make u do that

even .22lr which is way deadlier than ppl think lul

[gleaming gorge]

only time I use all 308 is Meth as those guys are So tanky

[somber urchin]

when new patch

[gleaming gorge]

Soon™️

[trail scroll]

like 1 suspect before order to chaos on pork hokan and the game crashes for no reason

[gleaming gorge]

I do think the update will come out about a week or two before Ronsole Release

[somber urchin]

RON is the best crackhead fighting sim on the market RN

[limber night]

Somewhere in the summer alongside console release

[pine drum]

Also, what does USGS stand for?

You see signs saying "USGS Fuck off"

[limber night]

United States Geological Survey?

[pine drum]

That wouldn't make sense for homeless people... Then yet again, in some ways it would.

[limber night]

Well that was the only thing I could find bout USGS

[pine drum]

Idk... But the Homeless of the City of Dreams seem to hate them.

[limber night]

I mean maybe it's related to earthquakes idk

Wasn't one the main cause of events in DLC1

[somber urchin]

the veteran suspects did nothing wrong

[pine drum]

YK... Besides terrorism... If you're talking about left behind.

[valid raven]

Am I the only one that liked the old police station better?

[pine drum]

Meh, a city as rich as LS wouldn't have a precinct that looks like that.

[somber urchin]

they tried peaceful methods first but got dabbed on

[limber night]

I did liked the vibe old RoN had overall

[pine drum]

Idk, I like the new RoN

The way it contrasts the life of the rich and the poor works really well

[limber night]

RoN vibes peak at the very beginning and then went down since https://youtu.be/Gd139Nin33M?si=pPXhxBxCqvWZxMp7

[native rune]

The shot random people incapped on the floor in Brisa Cove:

[valid raven]

I looked into the disadvantages and advantages of each throwable non-lethal are

Flash bangs are versatile and very effective but have the lowest effective radius

[pine drum]

there is literally no reason to use sting ball I'm guessing

[valid raven]

Do you mean the stingers or pepper ball

[pine drum]

Stinger nade

[limber night]

Stinger is pretty handy

Recently got used to it

[valid raven]

no, they’re useful basic cover a very large area

They are like a non lethal version of a frag grenade

[somber urchin]

flashies need a buff

[valid raven]

Gas fills a large area very quickly

But it lingers

at least it’s not as bad as irl where it can settle on objects and you touch those objects you can disturb the gas again

What do you think of the fact that the police station used to be a train station?

[pine drum]

NGL... Thought that was dumb

[gleaming gorge]

Depends, consider Brisa Cove the dead Civs on the ground

I understand if it was Just with the Senator, but With those Civs, I will not give as much empathy for them

[native rune]

They also comment that they weren’t aiming for the other people below, whilst the ground is littered with casings, from them firing on a public, populated event.

[gleaming gorge]

yeap, They were also a bit too easy to comply

[lusty skiff]

No. You're not the only one. This new one is bloated.

[gleaming gorge]

Yeah, it makes the Feeling of it just being Us in all these situations more believable, rather than the new one where there are so many Beat Cops and we could assume we have more Swat teams as well

[pine drum]

How do y'all determine whether or not to play aggressively?

[gleaming gorge]

Mainly when there are a lotta Civs and Bombs

[pine drum]

I usually play offensively when there's a lot of areas where my crew can be ambushed from or open areas.

[gleaming gorge]

It also Depends on the map, Coyote Almost Needs you to be aggressive and take the Advantage once in the tunnels

[pine drum]

Again, Lot's of ambush points

[gleaming gorge]

but When Maps have Traps, Play more Defensively

[pine drum]

Yep

[gleaming gorge]

also, as A major Tip for anyone doing any Run, Do not use the front Door, it is such a stupid Idea

[stone bay]

Or if you do, just blow it up.

[noble python]

relapse should've had traps

[stone bay]

Bombs and traps on the same map would be insane

[noble python]

the bombs are easy tbf

[stone bay]

Only because they don’t move

[noble python]

best way i did relapse was to clear the first floor, go all the way up to the third floor and take down both bombs, then be slow and clear the 2nd and parking floors

the 2nd floor is my least favorite place

[stone bay]

I have a mod that disables traps and bombs, and it’s been really helpful in being able to take my time and memorize layouts.

[noble python]

relapse was hell

but elephant is probably my least favorite mission

random bombs, can't take your time because everyone is getting executed ... some shooters can have gas masks

[valid raven]

How do you get ai teammates to use the shield?

[noble python]

they use it automatically when they're about to clear a room

but you can look at the shield guy and tell him to deploy it too

just wonky sometimes

[valid raven]

Also, am I the only one who has never ran into the issue of running into walls with rifles

Because i don’t normally like hug walls that much

[somber urchin]

stinger best nade

AI is horrible at throwables seen them throwing it at the fucking door

[noble python]

also carriers of the vine or whatever the hell that mission is called

sucks too

[crude prism]

Sting ball is just like 100 angry bees, and for that reason, it is cool.

Bee swarm out!!!! 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝

[pine drum]

Oh boy, I sure do love kicking the homeless out of their shelter

Where's the evidence for home invasion kept? Or does it not have evidence that gets stored in the locker?

[stone bay]

Are there any currently updated SWAT AI overhaul mods?

[tiny quail]

good morning ronnies

[iron sparrow]

i like watching the stupid ass rubber balls go everywhere

[iron sparrow]

i mean look at the holsters of the beat cops and you'll realize maybe we don't have that type of funding

[thorn egret]

I suddenly feel like making a full US Marine loadout

Sounds really fun considering we have no desert camo helmets

[stark prairie]

tell them to run

[iron sparrow]

it depends on the rifle you use

smaller ones you can get closer before it goes up

[valid raven]

Is anyone else think that pepper balll launcher is kind of underpowered

summary of throwable less lethals flash bags no lingering effect in the area you can move in immediately after tossing after it goes off with no effect had smallst efftive radius

Gas fills a room very fast covers a large area but lingers for
a wile

Stingers covers a very wide area effects are very fast but has a chance of killing hurts civs badly if your not cautious with them

Also they bounce around the room the room negating cover basically the less lethal version of a frag grenade

Remember the goal is to restrain as many people as possible not everyone is a threat it simply threats that are armed threats that aren’t armed. Its the cops who come in afterwards to figure out who is a criminal and who is not

[stone bay]

Pepper ball is a less lethal tactic police use to arrest a suspect. If a suspect is armed and they need to take them in unhurt that’s what pepper is. It’s still effective. Maybe Theres a better way to explain but it’s still very effective

[noble python]

i used pepperballs on carriers of the vine because the friendly ai was very quick to kill the suspects you're supposed to arrest

and the suspects feel more aggressive than in other missions for some reason

[maiden cave]

I like the game

[pine drum]

I'm surprised at how easy Lawmaker is

[pine drum]

How long do y'all wait before using LTL to gain compliance from a suspect?

[round pagoda]

i shoot first with buckshot and ask questions later

sometimes they can't answer questions later though

[feral sundial]

I could only wonder why

[pine drum]

I wait 3 seconds for them to drop their weapons if they aren't already shooting before hitting them with a bean bag.

[round pagoda]

"oops your face is gone"

[feral sundial]

[round pagoda]

it seems that most of my suspects invoke their right to remain silent

they never say a word again

[pine drum]

"I was aiming for your chest, but I guess your forearm muscles are gone now... Sucks to suck"

[wraith basin]

With beanbag you dont have to wait or ask questions. Just shoot and then ask questions

[pine drum]

I like to give them a chance before their intestines get knocked out their backside via pure kinetic force.

Unless they're the hand... Then they just get beanbagged...

For now at least, because once I get S rank on all missions, I'm gonna go back and make them pay for all the rage quits.

Does anyone here ever use full auto? Never see any real reason for it.

[acoustic mesa]

I do

Its really all i use most of the time

[pine drum]

How many civies do you collat

[acoustic mesa]

None

At most i loose 1 civ because they were taken hostage and the suspect shoots them

[pine drum]

Use flashbangs

[acoustic mesa]

I used that once but they still kileld their hostage

Else i usually switch to sidearm and dome the suspect

[pine drum]

Tear gas works as well...

[torpid rain]

I've bee trying to complete carriers of the vine for the past hour on my current run, I finished everything except I cant find one suspect but I can hear her. I'm legit going crazy trying to find her since her voice doesnt get louder no matter where i move. I cleared the map twice already but no sign of her. What the hell can i do

[stone bay]

She’s in the walls🤣

[torpid rain]

bruh fr

is there way i can recover this or do i have to restart

[narrow geode]

What do you mean

[gentle void]

If its a glitch obviously you cant

Search everywhere again

Or use search and secure button

[narrow geode]

Search and secure won't find suspects

[torpid rain]

man, fuck s runs

[narrow geode]

Only thing search and secure does is
Secure evidence that you didn't
Secure suspects/civilians that are incapacitated/dead that you didn't secure
Arrest alive civilians that are already surrendered

You can't use the command before you deal with every suspect and almost all civilians

[iron sparrow]

waste of ammo

[humble mauve]

my favorite part of s runs is you only need to do them once

[iron sparrow]

you forgot standing still like a fucking moron and refusing to search the rooms

[gleaming gorge]

Did you check the Basement?

[lean pollen]

explodeable gas station?

[stone bay]

This

[acoustic mesa]

Anyone know what the hidden achivement is?

[amber dock]

Get killed by swat Ai with the secret command and the other one is find the hidden room on 3 letter triad and blow up the wall with the marking on it

[wet moat]

i still havent gotten "The Fool" Achievement this is with 100.4 hours of game time

[amber dock]

Because it’s one of the achievements you have to actively try for

It won’t work with just playing normally

[wet moat]

so what's the trigger for it?

[amber dock]

Daniella voll

The lady in white dress and gold chain

[wet moat]

the amount of time i've ran that mission and she never tried anything stupid (apart from that one time where she got unco'd from C2 Charge)

[amber dock]

Cause she’s been nerfed heavily

[wet moat]

Ik

I miss Pre-1.0 Ais

[amber dock]

She used to be super annoying back in 1.0 days but people complained so void had to nerf her

[acoustic mesa]

Thank you

[wet moat]

Best way to do the 'Kill me' command is shoot an arrested suspect (or mag dump Amon Voll)

[acoustic mesa]

Allready did that one

[iron sparrow]

or just shoot your teammates

[wet moat]

that's no fun, rather mag dump someone that should have their breathing rights revoked

[iron sparrow]

"arrested suspect" includes the ends of the earth suspects

[somber urchin]

Wish we had a restart button in vanilla

[amber dock]

There is one in quick play

Commander mode doesn’t have one cause it’s trying to force you to do the long way by going back to Hq for the ‘campaign’ purposes you know

[amber dock]

@flint cedar that room can be found downstairs across from shoot house

[flint cedar]

In the police station?

[amber dock]

Oui

[flint cedar]

Okey

[naive hare]

gerard scott

we need a ptsd emoji

[naive hare]

this confirms im blind

anyway

all my officers got killed by a booby trap

[naive hare]

that was toc when i reported them

[vagrant zephyr]

How ‘quiet’ is the MP5SD? I know it’s definitely not silent, but it does appear to be quiet enough to be noticeable in 23 megabytes

[amber dock]

It’s quieter then something like the high caliber rifles

But a suppressed gun is still loud

[vagrant zephyr]

Yeah, but I’m guessing it’s still the quietest gun in the arsenal?

[amber dock]

Probs yes

[vagrant zephyr]

I’m just asking because I noticed enemies on 23 megabytes and neon tomb facing away from the doors or even the wrong way when I use it

[amber dock]

Low caliber and suppressor

[unborn kestrel]

love when the dumb fucking bots just stand somewhere at the stairs during the leviathan as their commander gets shredded by like 5 dumb fucking ass suspects at once

do the judge shaker oorah

[stone stump]

skill issue

[unborn kestrel]

mfw im forced to play with shitty graphics and cant see where im getting shot from in a mission map that is so dark 💔

[iron sparrow]

so dark!!! if only we had things that made light

[vocal obsidian]

Fanum tax (def ron)

[sand slate]

🐓

[somber urchin]

clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the suspects

[grave crown]

if I make suspect unconscious, can I still get S rank?

[amber dock]

As long as you get 35 points for them then yes

If you get 5 points then no

[grave crown]

so if the suspect is Incapacitated then I cant get s rank?

[amber dock]

Yes

[grave crown]

ok thx a lot

[spark niche]

hi

[near turret]

Is a surrendered suspect not moving towards me when ordered multiple times intentional or a bug? Would believe it were intentional if he was like "FUCK YOU"!

Edit: He starts shuffling for a split second then stops

[valid raven]

are all the assault rifles the same they just look different?

Because it doesn’t show stats

[twilit mulch]

they're definitely not the same. They're in various calibres

[somber urchin]

they aren't the same, different calibers definitely deal different damage and they do have different ROF

[valid raven]

is there a place where I can view then

[somber urchin]

unfortunately no >: (

[valid raven]

Honestly, it feels like there’s too many guns

Some of them being so similar it makes picking one over compuated

[arctic ice]

accidentally killed brixley in the spider mission, should i restart?

[valid raven]

Depends

How do I use malee

want to smash a window to toss stuff in the room

[near turret]

They all shoot bullets

[valid raven]

Because there’s someone in there with a gun but isn’t actively pointing it at anyone

[near turret]

b

[valid raven]

thanjs

Anyone else actually try and restrain as many suspects as possible

without killing but understanding that its still necessary at times

some people just don’t give up or they are actively trying to kill you so you don’t have time to deploy anything

[astral notch]

I feel like this is a good problem to have lol

Imagine the community if they didn't think there were enough

[arctic ice]

god damn it i killed the suspect again

there goes gerard scott

restart?

oh shit an officer died

[valid raven]

question, how do you actually place the symbol on a map?

When your planning maneuvers

I get that suspect and civilian locations are different on each map

has anyone ever had like a suspect surrender, and they’re on their knees in front of a doorway and another suspect shoots them in the back of the head trying to fire on you

That should not count as excessive force

[near turret]

Is there any way to control which direction my squad mates throw a flashbang? They will often throw it right into the corner next to the door as opposed to deeper in the room

would be nice if i could tell which side of the stack which flashes

[near turret]

Theres a key in the bottom right i think

[arctic ice]

wtf my AI teammates killed a civ

[valid raven]

It just picks a random AI teammate that has one

I love how tence CQB is in this game

[near turret]

Thats a bummer, this game is sooo close to being s tier, i hope they continue to update the mechanics

[valid raven]

Honestly, the ability to them where to stand would be nice

Personally, I always try to bounce it off a doorway or a wall or something so it gets into the center of the room

[near turret]

Me too i took a video where i flanked out two guys and one was going to surrender then his mate started shooting, sadly i lost the video

[valid raven]

I also saw the teammates pie the door before entering

[near turret]

Yeah throwing it myself is the easiest option but sometimes you wanna be the guy that kicks the door or covers

[near turret]

Me too its nice when they do that, sometimes they check under tables and beds too

[valid raven]

I remember lurning CQB in milsim

[near turret]

have you ever played doorkickers 2?

[valid raven]

It would be cool if they added hand signals

[storm nest]

Bolt-action snipers when

[valid raven]

Like rather then talking

actual SWAT teams don’t talk much

They do use hand signals

[patent axle]

They dont get paid enough for that 🙏

[near turret]

You can flip the suspects off after shooting their buddy 30 times then handcuffing them

[patent axle]

How

[valid raven]

I meant more hand signals to communicate information

[near turret]

It was a joke xD

[valid raven]

Although it’s mostly when they are in position to breach a door

[patent axle]

[valid raven]

I’ve noticed the person in the back of the stack looks backwards

Is that that so someone can’t shoot them in the back if they try to get around them

[near turret]

Id genuinally pay 30 quid for a dlc that let me issue orders via the headcam

so annoying having to run back and forth like a messanger boy

[valid raven]

do they say talk or TOC

[patent axle]

Swat 4 copy 🙏

[near turret]

Yes, and if you select an individual officer you can tell them which way to look

same deal with squads, ask them to cover a hallway and they will

[valid raven]

I thought it was TOC

[patent axle]

Yes

Toc

[valid raven]

Like the person that facilitates communication with other emergency service and the rest of the police department

Would be cool to get specialists
as well

Although SWAT is normally relly hard to actually join

Because they have very high standards

[wet kindle]

Is the dev briefing coming out this Friday?

[valid raven]

Especially like FBI SWAT

What’s that one French equivalent of SWAT teams that are known to use a revolver as their standard side arm

[near turret]

Imagine they added that chatgpt mod they have in skyrim where you can have full on conversations with the npcs using your voice and you have to talk them down

[wet kindle]

GIGN

[patent axle]

Yeah well this is lapd not those high and mighty feds

[near turret]

"Dont kill your wife Ruport,.. ahem i mean Richard, its not worth it"!

[valid raven]

LSPD

[patent axle]

Same thing

[valid raven]

Its not a real city

[twilit mulch]

GIGN, RAID and BRI

[valid raven]

I mean the city we are in is not a real city

[patent axle]

Nvm

[valid raven]

LAPD swat has pretty high standards

Federal SWAT teams even more so

[twilit mulch]

had* DEI hiring watered it down

[valid raven]

Dont

And no it didn’t

[near turret]

Yeah theres no way xD

[valid raven]

All that matters is you meet the recruiting standards?

Wich are not easy

[twilit mulch]

unless the standards get lowered

[valid raven]

Although sometimes they still don’t pick you

Even if you do pass

[near turret]

You guys ever researched the Iranian Embassay siege? Some incredible CQC work

the SAS guy busted through a window on fire and cleared the room

[patent axle]

Yeah they hire based on diversity these days

[near turret]

with his mask on fire

[patent axle]

Unfortunate

[valid raven]

SAS offen uses a lot of get in and overwelm before they can do anything

[twilit mulch]

a lot has changed in understanding of CQC/B since the 1980

[valid raven]

I remember watching a special forces selection video once where they kept interviewing them with very limited information and OK if you were to get in and had to help their resistance movement what’s your plan?

And he kept asking the CO what orders are

Got to told to leave immediately

Because the whole point of that was to test if he can plan with no orders and limited information

I don’t think tactical teams would want someone that can’t think for themselves and relies on orders from others

[pine drum]

What's one map y'all would never do a lethal run on?

[twilit mulch]

Kawayu Beach

[pine drum]

Dorms for me, purely because I don't feel good shooting the homeless

[sour shale]

Am i blind because i can not find the weapon shipment to secure it on Greased Palms. Can someone tel me where it is?

[pine drum]

It's in a truck

[sour shale]

k. thaks

[limber night]

None

[pine drum]

Damn, bro would shoot the homeless

[limber night]

I mean, not my fault they have a gun and shoot at me or run with a knife at me

[near turret]

None, i am the only none lethal officer in the unit and my taser only comes out when they are unsure, not when they still have their firearm

[pine drum]

I mean way they see it we're taking their shelter from them...

[limber night]

Real, I only use the taser when I'm not being shot at first lul

[near turret]

Usually by the time i whip it out one of my squad mates has gone full on "HES GOT A WEAPON, DROP HIM" mode xD

[limber night]

Lmao, never had that issue as we usually have a point man with a taser and he's the one to use it

Cuz he's the first to react

[near turret]

Oh right, is this multiplayer or do the ai use tasers?

[pine drum]

Honestly I wish there was an "engagement" order

[limber night]

Ofc it gets worse when the suspect is on someone who's without a taser then here comes spamming B lol

[limber night]

MP, I don't play with SWAT AI

[near turret]

And a flash near, far, left and right order

[prisma tusk]

Should be yep

[limber night]

[near turret]

Oh right, ive nevr tried it multiplayer, id be too worried about everyone being gung ho

[pine drum]

Like they need to NOT scream at people who are 100 feet away

[near turret]

Yeah it seems super rare for a suspect to surrender at that range, it can happen

[pine drum]

Like have a stealth mode FFS

Also, find it funny how almost no one uses the integrated mod system

[stone bay]

Because it sucks

[pine drum]

Yep

[vagrant zephyr]

for me, it's because it doesn't actually work. I install the mod, and the game uninstalls them whenever I start a game

[limber night]

Maybe if it worked properly

[wet kindle]

Awesome thank you

[valid raven]

OK, this is a little nitpicky but when you restrained somebody and it says arrested subject

Thats incorrect it should say detained

Detainment and arrests are different things

[proper pendant]

I can't wait for ready or not to come to the consoles especially the PS5 cause of its enhancements Imma be playing it with a friend

[valid raven]

In the US, you could only be detained for 24 hours max

Basically cops restrict your movement in any way without being charged for a crime

If they put you in holding if they don’t charge you with anything they have to let you leave

Within 24 hours i mean

[torpid rain]

i never knew there were female terrorists in relapse, the hand has gone too woke

[pine drum]

Pfffft...

[torpid rain]

bruh why do broken windows still have collision i just tried to flashbang someone and it bounced back 😭

[pine drum]

I don't have that problem...

Or at least I haven't encountered it.

[narrow geode]

It happens in the hospital mission

buggy or not

[limber night]

It's a feature actually

[narrow geode]

Mr Swan told me
Must be true

[limber night]

Fr fr

It was shown to me in a dream

[stable kernel]

Works cited:

[valid raven]

Question

When you play a level, do the suspects in that level, kinda have the same amount of armor every time you play

[narrow geode]

No

[valid raven]

oh, I thought they just spawn in different places and oteewise levels are the same

[narrow geode]

Wait
Armor level changes depending on the level
Some suspects have higher level others lower
Sometimes they dont have armor
I misunderstood the question
I think

[valid raven]

I meant like for that meth lab level for example

They will never have body armor

[amber dock]

Yes

The armour and like protection they have doesn’t change on the map

[valid raven]

Do you know what I found? That was weird

The throwing mechanic for suspects and detained people is very buggy

[amber dock]

Same thing with guns, all maps suspects have a set guns they can spawn in with but never from another map

[valid raven]

Seen people get phased into walls and ceilings

[amber dock]

You won’t see gas station suspects use the AR15 the veterans use on brisa cove

[valid raven]

I think to throw people into the same general area so they are out of the way

Do you think they’ll ever add a mechanic where you have to bring them to a central processing area?

And then go back in to clear out the rest

[amber dock]

No and hopefully not cause it sounds like a hassle for nothing in return

[valid raven]

That’s one of those things that they’re sacrificing realism for enjoyment

[amber dock]

Which is good cause hyper realistic shooters end up being more boring

Look at ground branch for example and the player count,

[valid raven]

I’ve noticed a lot of vids of SWAT they tend to have part of the team split up to extract people out of the scene

[amber dock]

Cause there’s no value doing something realistic if it won’t add anything to the games fun

[pine drum]

And just fucking irritating

[valid raven]

also, every member of the swat team can do any role in the team

Like if the pointman goes down, one of the other rifle could become the new point man

I noticed when I put myself right up against the window I could not ADS

Even though the windo was open because i smashed it

[fringe gate]

bro the tunnels on rust belt make no sense

[amber dock]

how so?

[fringe gate]

there is just alot

[amber dock]

That's how complex cartel tunnels get

They are very creative with them

[thick rivet]

ai in this game needs a ton of work

[twilit mulch]

coming with the next update this summer

[thick rivet]

ai that won't run away when u set fall in?

[twilit mulch]

no idea, all we know is that there'll be fixes and AI changes with the next update coming out this summer

[thick rivet]

on the hospital

and the ai just wanted to run away

[twilit mulch]

u must've scared them away

[thick rivet]

then the building blew up

atleast that specific officer is no longer around

[pine drum]

Imagine if there was a sovcit compound raid mission

[fringe gate]

I'd like a waco style mission minus the burning down of the place and ATF

[gleaming gorge]

I mean, We do have A Ruby ridge/Unibomber one

[valid raven]

Question does restarting your computer help with RAM overflow?

[gleaming gorge]

so close enough

[valid raven]

Because it keeps crashing saying it has no ram memory available

I am talking about the game

What i looked up online says yes

It is often because the computer is on for too long and the ram has gotten full as RAM is mostly temporary files the program needs to have open to run

I wonder if i need new RAM cards because mine may be getting full

[thick rivet]

how much ram do u got

[pine drum]

But seriously though, a sovcit mission might be entertaining as hell. They're funny during traffic stops sure, but they're genuinely a threat when they're armed. SovCits don't recognize the U.S government's authority because they think that the U.S has been illegally occupied by either a foreign government or a corporation. So imagine how they'd react to Judge and his crew rolling up.

|| Also, they could add it into the U.S.I.A lore if the compound leader is ex U.S.I.A ||

[thick rivet]

suggest #💻tech-support

[gleaming gorge]

I just want a Spoiler || rogue DLC, where we go rogue as I can see it happening with Hide and Seek||

Bring Back the MLO

[pine drum]

MLO?

[gleaming gorge]

very old Faction in Ready or Not

[twilit mulch]

MLO must not be named

[pine drum]

|| Also, that a suggested DLC or or a real one? ||

[gleaming gorge]

lalelulilo

[gleaming gorge]

suggested

[fringe gate]

I feel like that is closer to Christopher dornier

[pine drum]

Isn't a Unabomber one is lethal obsession?

Not 1:1 but similar

[gleaming gorge]

Yeah, that is what I ment, The map is based around Ruby Ridge, but the Items within and the Suspects are based on the Unibomber

[pine drum]

But yeah, reason why I bring up a sovcit mission is in the state I live in, which is Tennessee, there's a SovCit micro nation being set up, and they appear to be trying to push locals out of the county it's in. I imagine that it's gonna end in a police stand off. Not to mention we've seen that happen before, and considering that RoN story has elements that mirror IRl political violence much like SWAT 4, it wouldn't be too out of place.

I mean, they're one of the biggest threats to our national security and we got a mission with violent oil protestors. Why not add anti-government morrons who claim to know the law better than police, judges, or attorneys

[gleaming gorge]

I could see it

[patent axle]

You live in tennessee? Because youre the only 10 i see

[pine drum]

Ha!

[patent axle]

Midwest rizz 🤫

[pine drum]

But I can already imagine some of the voice lines.

Judge: ON THE GROUND, NOW–!

Suspect: I DO NOT CONSENT TO YOUR AUTHORITY!

[thick rivet]

well 7.62 disargees

[pine drum]

Or like

"I DO NOT STAND UNDER YOU!"

[gleaming gorge]

Might then need some new Models for them though, IDK

[pine drum]

They would probably wear basic militia-esque outfits.

[patent axle]

Best gun to use in game? Probably the G3

[pine drum]

That's what I use.

[gleaming gorge]

I use the Mk1

[pine drum]

Drops hostiles like a sack of potatis

[pine drum]

That's what I give my assaulters.

[patent axle]

Oh yeah i like having so much recoil 90% of my bullets go into the celing

[pine drum]

That's why I put it on semiauto

[pine drum]

Also, compensator

[patent axle]

Semi is for rookies 🙏

[gleaming gorge]

Again, I play a Breacher/Roamer/Flanker Role in most Teams, Give me a SMG or SBR

[patent axle]

20 rounds of 7.62x51 on full auto tears through anything
(You hit)

[pine drum]

I play more like a designated marksman

[gleaming gorge]

Back when the SA58 was the only Battle Rifle, I kinda Got a lotta Civs killed from Overpenetration

[patent axle]

You guys also like giving war veterans ptsd with flashbangs and stingers?

[gleaming gorge]

no, I just Gas them

[patent axle]

In the game ofc

[patent axle]

[pine drum]

It's why I use hollow points with the G3. They pierce armor but stop at the target.

[valid raven]

Is there any reason to not wear night vision?

[gleaming gorge]

no

[pine drum]

Either that, or it hits so hard it knocks out the suspect despite not piercing

[pine drum]

Nope... No reason to use flashlights

[gleaming gorge]

back about 1 update ago, we actually had to Chose To use them over other Face items, like Flash goggles and Ballistic Masks, etc

[pine drum]

I always modded NVGs to be separate anyway

[gleaming gorge]

now Flash goggles and Ballistic Mask vs Gas Mask, that is a Real Compromise that Is a good Thing

Just Watch As We get a Devtec Ronin next Update as a Helmet

[pine drum]

I'd imagine it would be cosmetic

[gleaming gorge]

yeah, but again, it would be an interesting Helmet, No Visable Facemask or gas mask

so you could think your teammate has all the Gear on fo a mission and he is just running a Helmet

[pine drum]

Probably be a cosmetic for the ballistic mask

[gleaming gorge]

a Ronin is a Helmet though

[pine drum]

Because certain items override cosmetics

Like heavy armor and stab vests

[gleaming gorge]

no they do not

Stab vests do, but not Heavy armor

[pine drum]

I swear heavy armor does for some vests

[gleaming gorge]

nope

[limber night]

For "balance" ofc lul

[gleaming gorge]

but Some cosmetics Override others
The Flight gloves from The Dark Waters DLC override both Tattoos and Watches
The Long Shirts override Tats and watches As well
And I think the FISA goggles from the Supporter Edition override any Glasses you wear

and the Glitch of the Gloves from Dark Waters override Tats

[limber night]

Do DW cosmetics still clip like hell with arms?

[gleaming gorge]

I think they do

[limber night]

I've been using cosmetics fix since DLC2 released, so idk

[narrow geode]

I don't think there is a cosmetic that doesn't clip in this game

[gleaming gorge]

IDK, I just Use the Darkwaters Shirt for AOR 2 pattern on a shirt to put under my FISA gear

[limber night]

Don't mention DW shoes that are on wrong sides

[gleaming gorge]

I actually Have to See this, I use the Panama Boots

[limber night]

Panama are ok

It's the Salomons that are wrong

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[valid raven]

Anyone here actly try and get a good score on levels?

You know you get more points for detaining rater then killing right

[limber night]

Yeah u get S for full non lethal runs

[valid raven]

I am saying thare are some online players dont care

[valid raven]

You can shoot and not lose points btw

If you shoot when you shoud

[limber night]

Yeah, but with vanilla RoE it doesn't work 90% of time

[valid raven]

But you still get more for detaining

[valid raven]

If they are just holding the gun thats not enf to fire

[gleaming gorge]

There are 3 tiers of Suspect Points
Deceased, Lowest
Unconscious, Medium
and Compliant in Arrest, The highest

[valid raven]

They have to have it rased and you have to at least try and get them to give up

4 actly

[limber night]

Ik how the game works mate, I got almost 200h in it

[valid raven]

you forgot compiant

[limber night]

It doesn't change the fact the vanilla RoE is shit and doesn't work properly as it leads into many bullshit situations

[gleaming gorge]

I did say that, where they surrender and you cuff them

[valid raven]

I mean before you cuff htem

Also if they run dont chace after them

Runing after them gets you killed

Personly if they run I try to get a less letel thing out

[narrow geode]

My favorite pair of boots in the game
Too bad they literally clip through almost every pair of pants in the game

[valid raven]

Andyone else when you put someone down when your carrying them sometimes they end up in the ciling

[limber night]

Void at it's finest

DW cosmetics were prob the most low effort by far ngl

[valid raven]

Its a minor bug but its funny when it happend

Also do you lose points for trowing them

[narrow geode]

No

[limber night]

Like everyone outsources assets, but man seeing them not put any effort into at least making that stuff look good or match other cosmetics in the game is sad

the LV119 was probably the funniest and saddest example of that, cuz while 1.0 vests were empty and just had mags on them, the LV119 had nothing, just one utility pouch

[gleaming gorge]

hell, we now Have 2 Variants of Flight Gloves now I hate that

[valid raven]

My rule if they have a gun idealy I get a shot to use a non letel on them if not I just yell at them if they give up good if they keep the gun lowerd I keep yelling if they rase it or dont lower it after a good amout of trys yelling

Then I fire

[limber night]

Oh yeah for no reason at all too lol

[valid raven]

If they have thare gun up then fireing right away unless they are in a bad spot to hit me

[limber night]

Ig they put the new rolled ones in cuz not everyone has an S rank to unlock the og pair

[valid raven]

You only kill when not killing is going to get you shot

Wich is pretty offen

But its a jugement thing

Its hard to say extaly when they are going to shoot and when they are no but you can ready body lanige

Like body movements matter

[gleaming gorge]

First ones are for the '99 Swat set are for Completing All levels, not just with an S Rank

[valid raven]

LIke I have seen them act like they are going to rase thare gun but not aim it

Like they whare consiring aiming at you but whare unsure

[gleaming gorge]

Plus, Game is bugged for Me, I have two of the smae Glove as well, The Nymix ones

[valid raven]

I kept yelling and then they put the gun on the ground

Can knifes kill you as well

[limber night]

Yeah. that's what I meant

[valid raven]

I get rushed by suspects with knifes in the meth house

[limber night]

Same thing in the end

[valid raven]

Is it vald to shoot someone who is runing at you with a knife?

[gleaming gorge]

yes

But remember the 21 Foot Rule

[valid raven]

That moment upstares with the sick kid in the meth house is creepy af

[gleaming gorge]

anyway, What everyone's Tat that you use, Lady Liberty for me

[fickle tide]

Ok
Soooo
1st time playing
Aaaand
A+ on the 1st 2 missions...

Am i...good at this?

[gleaming gorge]

Those are 'Easy' Missions, Now it is time to Fight Methheads

[limber night]

I play with modded tats, so idk

[unborn kestrel]

im so tired of looking for the last civ on leviathan

ouuuuuuugghhh

[fickle tide]

Ahh fair enough

[unborn kestrel]

why wont the last civs try to come out or anything like that

[valid raven]

Is it possible to order officers to use a specific weapon?

Like teammates

Or is the teammate AI not really effected by barrel length

[unborn kestrel]

ai officers only use secondary when they have unloaded their whole mag in the middle of a shootout

[valid raven]

Ok so no they aren’t

I will just pick the secondary is based on what i want to use if using that load out then

[unborn kestrel]

?

english please

[stone bay]

Yes

[maiden cave]

Yes. It's also pretty fun in ready or not

[pine drum]

Spoiler:

|| Do y'all think judge is Ex USIA or a USIA plant? ||

[gleaming gorge]

||I think Both, atleast by the Time Of HIde and Seek||

[limber night]

What if Judge is the friends we made along the way

[stone bay]

Someone doesn’t know how to hide spoilers 🙁

[pine drum]

|| I'd think he's just ex USIA, because I think FISA is in on whatever the USIA is doing and that's the real reason Judge pushed back on them during Hide and Seek ||

[thick rivet]

i think it is time to try hospital again

[limber night]

Game has been officially out for like 2 years now

[thick rivet]

yeah but there is people like me who haven't even done all the base game missions

[pine drum]

Also, I spoilered my stuff.

[limber night]

Too bad

I can spoil fight club

[limber night]

Cool

[thick rivet]

let me know of any movies u want to watch so i can spoil it for u

[limber night]

Breaking bad

[thick rivet]

he dies

[limber night]

Who

Plenty of ppl die in that show

[thick rivet]

u know lol

[limber night]

Just say it

Kid named finger dies?

[thick rivet]

tbh i have no clue

[limber night]

Bruh

[thick rivet]

i just said something never watched it

[limber night]

I did, mid show tbh

Good first three seasons

Later it got mid

[ruby orchid]

It feels so satisfying to finish Relapse for the first time (and with B!)

After 25 tries

[thick rivet]

really gives me hope

question and tips for that mission

[ruby orchid]

This is the mission where I learned how to equip my comrades with gas, shield and ton of wedges

The PTSD from getting flanked in the lowest-placed areas was just too high

[thick rivet]

i nearly did relapse but i was too slow and blew up

[stark prairie]

dawg it takes 30 minutes for it to explode how'd you take too long 😭

[thick rivet]

i go slow and try not to die

[limber night]

Longest relapse round took me n friends like 45 minutes, but we disabled the bombs within 10 lol

[shell cliff]

theres 2 bomb 🤷‍♂️ i recommend after u fix(?)remove the cable(?) of the 1st bomb then straight away to 2nd

[limber night]

Don't relapse bombs also only have one location per bomb unlike elephant

[shell cliff]

yeap same location

[limber night]

So getting them disabled before their timer runs out is like, really easy to achive in short time

[stark prairie]

yeah

[limber night]

I've only met two ppl who failed to do so lol

[stark prairie]

and elephants explode in like 11 minutes

[limber night]

Yeah, but you usually finish that map in like 3-5 minutes

Even quicker if you're lucky with rng

Relapse with it's sheer size takes way longer

So the timer is longer too

[thick rivet]

so umm i discovered hmm ai is kinda dumb

tell them to clear an area

[limber night]

Nothing new

[thick rivet]

they get mowed down

lmg on 2nd floor

they open the door and 2 dead already

so umm just charging doesn't work

[limber night]

It's why I never use swat ai

[thick rivet]

well i don't have friends to play with

[limber night]

I don't only play with friends. I play alot solo

Most of my playtime is solo only

[thick rivet]

if i do it solo without a team i need more amm-o

[limber night]

Oh right, forgot how bad dmg is in vanilla

I use a mod that boosts the damage given n recieved, so 6 mags is enough lol

[shell cliff]

@split lion best loadout = the one where it suits u well......man why ask in tech support lmao

[split lion]

whats the best gun

[shell cliff]

gun that suits u well 👍

[limber night]

The best gun is the one you're most comfortable with.

You have guns like SA58 that packs a punch at a cost of smaller mags n higher recoil

Or F90, a 5.56 rifle that's compact n has less recoil than most ARs in the game chambered in the same round

[crude prism]

(no he's just 🦐 issuing, aim lmao)

[limber night]

[crude prism]

"6 mags is enough" bro you should be able to finish any mission in the game with 3 rifle mags

[limber night]

Tbh I just carry 3 ap and 3 hp, cuz I forget which map has suspects with armor lul

Cba with remembering

[lost inlet]

If you’re not sure then just bring AP.

JHP is there if you keep hitting the limps and for some reason couldn’t land on the torso.

[lost inlet]

B1301 with buckshot.

[limber night]

Nah, I like variety

[lost inlet]

Shotgun with slug.

[limber night]

Boring at this point

I'd much rather do a taser only run

[crude prism]

use 9mm AP and try to S rank Neon with it by peppering every enemy until they surrender

[limber night]

Fuck the pepper guns, they're the most useless guns ever. Tac700 was a vibe tho

[shell cliff]

pepper guns only good for ur AI teammate

[limber night]

Pepper guns would be good if they weren't in the game

[shell cliff]

wait for the grenade launcher in next update lol

[limber night]

Don't have to, I already played with that during early access, it's pretty mid

Unless they make it reloadable it'll be as useless as it was

And making it a tactical would defeat the purpose of other GLs...

Why are they brining it back again? Ik Void lost the plot and decided to mark cut guns as new in DLC2, but doing it again is funny

[light nest]

me when i shotgun:

[lost inlet]

Idk, boid’s decision is as questionable as ever.

[limber night]

Real

[thick rivet]

when working on relapse and u die to the last guy

[limber night]

Like how they introduce a whole ass new shotgun just cuz it's mag fed instead of making such mag an attachment for shotguns already in the game

But same could be said bout 4 fucking MP5s

Where weapon slots could be saved, by making some things attachments

[lost inlet]

They needed something to hypes the audience up and there isn’t a lot of options to do so that wouldn’t breaks the immersion.

Boid said fuck it and add a 1911 deagle anyway, if they remember to do so that is.

[limber night]

Idm a few fun guns like the short G3 or a .50 ae pistol, but the current weapon list is bloated with stuff that could've easily been an attachment or a new feature like being able to chamber guns in different calibers

Being able to switch between 5.56 n .300blk ARs would be neat, or between 9mm and 10mm on MP5 without it taking a separate weapon slot

[steep ridge]

hatman i saw you an hour ago standing by my bed

[steep ridge]

put .300 blackout into a 5.56 gun watch what happens

[lost inlet]

MCX when its came out.

Working just fine. If you didn’t know, MCX was supposedly chambers in 5.56 but boid gave it 300 blk stats anyway.

[limber night]

Ik what happens which is why I said chamber in different caliber not just load a different cartridge 😭

But it'd be funny to see guns explode ingame

[lost inlet]

New update, your gun now can jam and even explode randomly like in far cry 2. Enemies don’t have this because we forgot to code it in so you’ll have to endure this for the next 6 months or a year.

[lost inlet]

Keep sleeping my child, you’re still dreaming.

[steep ridge]

20 more kilos of fent coming right up

[merry bloom]

Sorry if this has been asked before but are there any cosmetics planned in the free update?

[limber night]

Hope not, cuz Void is terrible at doing them

DLC2 was the best example of that

[merry bloom]

well not everybody wants to play with mods

[limber night]

Mods or not, Void first needs to put some real effort into the cosmetics before adding any more

Like every single cosmetic on 1.0 release n past seems to be implemented in a way where they didn't even bother to do anything with it after getting the outsourced assets. DLC2 ones having many clipping issues is also worth noting lol

Though at the same time those shouldn't be their biggest concern atm cuz they should focus on some other things first

9 milion copies sold n best they could do is a naked plate carrier and boots on wrong sides, kekw #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[iron sparrow]

my favourite part is when i tell them to breach and they equip their shield for 5 fucking seconds before unequipping it in the middle of the room WHILE BEING SHOT AT

[iron sparrow]

heavy armour overrides it when selected but you can switch back to the other vests

[merry bloom]

I agree the amount of slick plate carriers is redick

I really wish there was more armor options

[thick rivet]

nothing gets ur blood pumping more than a guy with an mp7 kicking down a door at u

[sweet imp]

guys anyone know if twisted nerve bugged cant get s tier?

[narrow geode]

Yes
Its bugged
There are invisible knives
You're either going to play with AI teammates since only they can secure those
Or
Use a mod that removes evidence score

[sweet imp]

oh okok thank you

[somber urchin]

anyone else feels like we are too durable?

I'm often surprised how much I can tank when enemy gets a drop on me

difficulty sliders when

[stone bay]

[iron sparrow]

steel plates vs tec 9 tends to do that

[narrow geode]

Steel will make you die faster

Use ceramic

[limber night]

In the end armor doesn't matter cuz ur ass is gonna get blasted anyways

[primal lark]

Are team bots for multiplayer ever going to be added?

[lost inlet]

🤷‍♂️

[cursive minnow]

They mentioned they were considering it before but that was quite awhile ago so I doubt it at this point we have mods for it though.

[shell cliff]

dumb ai teammate moment

[narrow geode]

How mean

[valid raven]

What is the mod called

Because i would like to be able to have more teammates with less players

Like it i just want to play one on one with a friend it would be nice to have 3 other bots to fill out the team

[cursive minnow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4038

[iron sparrow]

personally i don't think i've experienced the damage bug

but it could be cause of a mod or i just don't get shot that much

[vagrant zephyr]

is Steel actually bugged? It's been my best friend ever since 1.0

[tacit gull]

mmmm says the damage calculations on it are bugged

[vagrant zephyr]

darn

is it like a time-to-time thing or

Oh also, what rifle calibres does Ceramic not protect against?

Battle rifle calibres?

[tacit gull]

None

Player armor doesn't have a rating, it either removes damage or cuts it by a percent

[amber dock]

NERD🤓

[tacit gull]

ok "tech support"

[amber dock]

fine... you win

sry

[vagrant zephyr]

So i have been lied to

this is like Dark Souls level of unexplained mechanics good lord

[tacit gull]

ready or not is really bad at explaining unintuitive mechanics

[vagrant zephyr]

I wish you could use commander traits in multiplayer

Oh well wishful thinking anyways

Im currently looking at the uh
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1684145677#gid=1684145677

WAIT YOU CAN HEAL BY FIXING BLEED???

[tacit gull]

refer to my previous message

[vagrant zephyr]

Why is ceramic crossed off in most of the

damage calculations

[tacit gull]

i'm guessing because its broken

[vagrant zephyr]

Er?

[tacit gull]

ceramic stops 4 shots with 100% damage reduction then defaults to 35% i think

[vagrant zephyr]

Ok Ok lets say I want to eat the most amounts of hits possible

I should go with Heavy Ceramic?

[crude prism]

In the current iteration of the game, with the "bugged" damage changes, you are best off running ceramic plates over steel.

TECHNICALLY steel could edge out in hyper specific scenarios, but these are 99.9% irrelevant to normal gameplay.

Ceramic + full coverage is the best for total safety, but getting hit in the side is not very common (a suspect must flank you at roughly 70 degrees from the direction you are facing), you can be fine with light armor + ceramic front/back most of the time. It's just personal preference if you want the +2 slots or not in exchange for side plates

(There is no difference in armor quality based on light/heavy vest. A ceramic plate has the same strength in a light vest as it does in the heavy)

[tacit gull]

go off about the side plates sharing health

[crude prism]

I don't wanna. That horse is already beat and I haven't even started

[tacit gull]

[crude prism]

Same shit as tarkov lmao. Why break up armor zones if helmets are gonna share durability on the left/right side coverage lmao. WHY

No clue

Anyways I'm releasing my bee swarm in here now

🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝

[vagrant zephyr]

I'm actually kinda happy that i figured out the entire 'heavy vs light armour' comparison on my own :D

[tacit gull]

putting the image perms to good use

[vagrant zephyr]

But yea, I see

[crude prism]

I try. I think I've earned a little shitposting. As a treat.

[patent axle]

[crude prism]

Hopefully the doc isn't too COMPLETELY INCOMPREHENSIBLE

In theory some stuff should be getting fixed/changed with the next update if I had to guess.

(else I'm exploding kaminsky with my mind)

[tacit gull]

Some stuff has been getting fixed for 3 updates on

[crude prism]

Fixed = Current issue resolved, added 2 more issues, for funsies

Such is game development

❤️

[arctic ice]

how do i swap out officers

[cursive minnow]

Click the officer you want to swap and then click on the officer you want to swap them with.

[arctic ice]

ty

should i do a few low levels runs to get my new dude some experience?

he has the armorer perk but its locked

[vagrant zephyr]

Armorer's pretty good

I'd say it's worth it

[arctic ice]

NOO FUCK I LOST AN OFFICER

HE WAS THE ARMORER TOO

KIA

[lone crystal]

Talk tuah entry team

[opaque imp]

Is there info about ron release on console?

[stone bay]

That’s all we got

[amber dock]

Another thing I can add is that Ron on console will be less graphic content wise

Some stuff have been altered to satisfy age rating regarding the graphic stuff you can see in the game

[limber night]

No more oiled up club civs

[merry bloom]

Will this affect crossplay in anyway?

[amber dock]

Unknown at this time

Cross play will still be a thing

[limber night]

Ig console censorship can be done client side, so crossplay could be possible

[amber dock]

Just not sure how it will work regarding stuff you can see in the game

[arctic ice]

should i do a run where i just slaughter everybody as payback for making one of my officers KIA

or will that impact my dudes mental states too much

[amber dock]

Do that solo and save your officers sanity

[arctic ice]

how do i do solo runs

[amber dock]

Simply open a friends only lobby and you will spawn with no swat bots

[arctic ice]

ty

time to commit some attrocities

[echo fable]

hey is tehre any1 who can help me with the hospital?

[amber dock]

Best bet is ask in #🔎looking-for-players and what exactly you need help with

[merry bloom]

They gonna gentrify our strippers 💔 The woke agenda must be stopped

[amber dock]

Like if it’s just completing the map or S rank or something else

[echo fable]

just need to complete the map

[arctic ice]

installed a mod to lets me have like 20 mags, time to que some freebird

[gentle void]

point

[arctic ice]

everyone dead within 5 mins

mission complete

-2,640 score

every person including civs murdered

[limber night]

Edgy

[stone bay]

What level?

[limber night]

Killing civs is lowkey cringe

Not even lowkey, it is cringe

[somber urchin]

score needs some readjustment it makes no sense why shooting the guy who doesn't drop the gun after being told to do so multiple times is unjustified

[limber night]

Vanilla RoE being shit is the reason

[stone bay]

It’s a video game. Who gives a shit?

[somber urchin]

any equivalent of SWAT's elite force mod?

[limber night]

I use Justified kills from https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3234?tab=files

[bold sky]

sef equivalent would be something closer to gunfighter and that one popular ai mod; but nothing really compares to how impactful sef was

but ron does let you customize a lot more easily than swat 4, even trivial details like pumping up bots difficulties and setting respawn tickets are easier than swat 4

[arctic ice]

accidentally shot a hostage

pain

[arctic ice]

why do they take so fucking many hostages

[somber urchin]

there are several AI mods, which one are you refering to? I tried one that seemed mostly placebo

[bold sky]

ron here i come realistic ai something

its a long ass name but it should be the most popular ai mod by far at this point; downside is you might need to spend time reading thru the description to get what you want

other ai mod only beats it bc other ai mods are generally simple as hell so its just download and install one very obvious file

[limber night]

"downside is you might need to spend time reading thru the description to get what you want"

Yeah especially when an average reading comprehension of RoN players is equally as bad as 5 year olds

[bold sky]

i dont set the standard bar low for people i don't know or try to be edgy to them

especially if its someone who is looking for sef alternative

[limber night]

Nah there's a reason a mod called "ability to read" exists lol

[bold sky]

we mostly have fond memories of sef its a waste that sef eventually ages away

[somber urchin]

the one I tried on medium extreme, honestly couldn't tell the difference

[light nest]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

how does one get this achievement

[limber night]

It's literally written how

[light nest]

yea but like

how do i lure a suspect in to like

[bold sky]

the ai mod is very flavor dependent but here i come just has a crap load to choose from

[light nest]

c4 their silly ahh

[limber night]

Just walk around with the camera and pray for a suspect to stand behind doors

[bold sky]

its better to tinker and find what ai mod suit your playstyle but its gonna be tough to replicate sef feels

[limber night]

As for AI mods, been using this one and I'm quite fond of it https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1358

[bold sky]

its easier to replicate something like r6 vegas or ravenshield

sef balance of being chaotic, fun and tactical at the same time with some hollywood moments is just a different level

[somber urchin]

doesn't it buff your teammates too much?

[limber night]

I don't play with SWAT AI so idk

[old kernel]

can i handcuff suspects during a way out west achievement attempt?

[tacit gull]

Get the AI to do it just in case

if you're in multi er..

do what you gotta do

[old kernel]

attempting in mp

[torpid rain]

is there a way i can make my team use their grenade launchers when not clearing a door

[pine drum]

Does commander mode's missions completed transfer over to quick play or is that a different save?

[somber urchin]

ends of the earth has such a sad tone

always make sure the family is safe

[stone bay]

I don't think so, but can't confirm.

[tacit gull]

It does

[tacit gull]

Not sure, even if you can they're terrible at freeform deploys

[somber urchin]

isn't it a bit in a bad taste to put a video game level based on a real life massacre?

[stone bay]

Where’s the ready or not announcements, every other games is preparing for updates etc.

[limber night]

Are you talking bout the club?

[somber urchin]

yup

[limber night]

Well there was a controvesy surrounding the club, the game was even pulled off steam till tweaks were made.

I forgot if that was the exact reason or nah tbh.

But if releasing the club level at the anniversary of that tragedy was coincidental or not isn't for me to judge. But them having the same name was kinda iffy lol

[tacit gull]

Most levels in the game have equivalents in real life, i wouldn't say that alone makes them in bad taste

The club level is based on a real club which is why it got pulled off steam, but the plot isn't exactly based on one event

[prisma tusk]

It was because the in-game name of the club coincidentally happened to be the name of a very popular club chain.

[tacit gull]

The entrance itself also looked exactly the same lmao

[prisma tusk]

yeah

[limber night]

Plus the release date being the anniversary of that event

[somber urchin]

Wacco siege level when

[tacit gull]

Waco has been referenced in an official devblog

[limber night]

Old RoN was quite a fever dream with like red pill references in the old station too iirc

[prisma tusk]

It wasn't pulled for that reason, that was just another coincidence blunder lol.

[tacit gull]

void fucked up massively with that

[prisma tusk]

yep lmao

[limber night]

I didn't said that was the reason, just pointed out that it was the same date lul

[tacit gull]

Maybe if club wasn't the main attraction of the update but holy shit