👮ron-discussion

[red hull]

Use it so much more useful

[hollow cedar]

Wait killing works for it???

It specifically says incap, which I assume means no killing. Like you have to specifically kill at a certain threshold

[stable kernel]

Fully dead suspects still count, yes

[hollow cedar]

...that's kind of dumb

Does killing arrested count?

[stable kernel]

No

But you can command surrendered suspects into a pile before you arrest with AI/players or shoot

So really the best options are to get a mod for more suspects or go nonlethal and arrest a pile

[stone bay]

Is it just me or I can never get the deploy command to work or am I just using it wrong

Tryna move upstairs (open floor )to where a baddy is camping , wanted them to “deploy” a flash bang since I’m out- they just stand there puzzled

[hollow cedar]

For times like these I wish you could arrest cancel in multiplayer

[covert aurora]

I think you can. Just move during the arrest at least it thats how it should work

[hollow cedar]

No you can't

Oh only host can do it

[hollow cedar]

what mod lets you add more enemies?

also when I'm done how do I change it back to vanilla

[dark marlin]

lost a hermit run early on to what appears to be a "gun jam" glitch

I've had it happen a few times when I was doing my s ranks

where my gun just wouldn't fire

Is this a known issue?

[covert aurora]

Not to my knownledge.

[hollow cedar]

I've had similar issues

where I cease to be able to interact with the game at all

also wait I can't get rid of the mods wtf

I still see the "mods" option in main menu

I even verified game file integrity

[covert aurora]

Did you... delete the pak file?

[hollow cedar]

I did, then verify integrity added them back so I was like maybe I removed something I was not supposed to

[covert aurora]

Did you get the mod from mod io or nexus?

[dark marlin]

I've not done any modding to the game, whether it be editing or addition of files

Everything is entirely vanilla

[hollow cedar]

nexus/vortex

though it added modio

[covert aurora]

Remove it from vortex

[hollow cedar]

I removed it from vortex, still see mods

also I have a mods io thing, though I tried deleting that

[covert aurora]

I would suggest reporting your issue in #1050535723087958156

[dark marlin]

I managed to find a reddit thread from several years ago that claimed it'll no longer be an issue if I swap from windowed borderless to fullscreen

going to give it a go

It's a relatively rare issue, once every 7 hours or so

[covert aurora]

Fair enough

[hollow cedar]

game will not properly start if i outright delete the paks file

[tired gale]

its april 1st wheres my comically large spoon melee 👹

[hollow cedar]

sleeper agent acquired

a mod was perchance used

in my defense I would've done it legitimately if arrest cancelling was not bugged in multiplayer

[hybrid stream]

Is Sleeper Agent tracked for the whole team or per person?

*During '3 Letter Triad', Apprehend or incapacitate 15 suspects consecutively, within 15 seconds of one another.

[odd belfry]

HOLY SHIT I JUST CLEARED NEON TOMB SOLO

the second time

[hollow cedar]

Good shit

[hollow cedar]

I believe it's team

Also I find it funny that runs where you kill every civ still count for time, so the any% speedrun strat is literally just kill instead of arrest civs

[urban mural]

The DLC Dark Water is crazy... Man it wiped most officers this DLC than other missions and the home invasion DLC.

[hollow cedar]

Yeah 3 letter triad kicks like a mf

Btw is it just me or is the lighting in this game super wierd

They feel too bright and they drown out a lot of the level

[urban mural]

Btw there are istances on some maps where the teammates AI get stuck in place and won't listen to commands... Happaned that in Hide and Seek...

Why does the Scar-L have that stock instead of having its own in the game like irl?

[covert aurora]

can comfirm it's team

[scarlet flax]

Very nice! That one of my favorite maps to play by myself. Has two super difficult rooms though.

[odd belfry]

yeah the secondary dance floor and main dance floor is a pain in the ass

[scarlet flax]

I am so glad you call them that 🫡

You already knew what I was talking about.

[odd belfry]

the only map where i would willingly turn on my white light as well cause its like too bright for NVGs but some rooms are too dark to see normally

[scarlet flax]

Oh dude I honestly use flashlight all the time.

[vague isle]

does anyone know the bomb locations in relapse?

[brazen echo]

didnt realise that traps would kill my officers even if theyre outside so just tried lethal obsession and blew up 2 my guys on the first door cause i c2'd it. i altf4 restarted tho

anyway for me to get them to c2 the door from a distance?

[jolly verge]

C2 or peek the door and defuse

[brazen echo]

there was a dude in front with a mask thats why i thought i'd c2

how do i get them to stand further back

[warm kettle]

Pedriatic and when you cross the glass tunnel, big room

[vague isle]

thanks although i found it in a rusb

[jolly verge]

Hold them away from the door and place C2 on door by yourself

[brazen echo]

i gave them the c2

[jolly verge]

Just peek the door and defuse trap instead

[vague isle]

also chat is RON getting new missions

[scarlet flax]

I'm sure they'll add more eventually. Right now they're working on adding difficulty settings.

[vague isle]

well cool

since like im confused as to how can Ai see me but i cant see them ( literally one house away for scale, but as a example (

[scarlet flax]

There's lots of windows in that house.

[brazen echo]

the main guy was barracaded in the bottom room, rigged, so i just deployed cs outside so my guys could cut it then they messed up the stinger and tagged us all with it instead of deploying it in the room

got him tho 🫡

[ripe creek]

Is there no way to mute game when in background from game settings?

[copper cypress]

Does anyone know what conditions trigger the active shooter mode in the Mirage at Sea?

[hollow cedar]

When the dude in the white cloths gives the order to execute order 66 on the civs you've basically lost (your S rank)

[copper cypress]

Does this only happen when the player creates too much stress on the suspect?

[hollow cedar]

I have no idea, there's a strat to rush the dude just search it up

His spawn points are pretty consistent

[copper cypress]

All right @_@

[tacit gull]

Honestly it seems pretty random, but yes supposedly suspect stress affects it

[jolly verge]

2:45 seconds right after you spawn

[scarlet flax]

Aspid why aren't you John RoN? You know this game too well.

[copper cypress]

Even if I'm just staring blankly at the respawn point?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[copper cypress]

Is there a way to stop it from happening? I remember that the first time I played this level, the active shooter mode didn't trigger, but I don't know why.

[jolly verge]

Make Sahid surrender or kill him

[copper cypress]

Got it.

[final ember]

Shoot Sahid 2 times in the torso (preferably the stomach) with an assault rifle and he will be incapacitated but not dead, that way you get a lot more points

[vital ferry]

I run this game at 120-144fps. But fps is dropping to 66-70 like all-the-time. No matter what map and lowering graphics to minimum does not affect. Is there anything to fix this?

I have tried all kinds of clear cache things and what not..

Is this just still so badly optimized?

[warped copper]

I have a similar issues and from what I've been told yes... this game is just badly optimized but apperantly in the next patch (we dont know when its coming) they will fix some things with how they load stuff which should help

[vital ferry]

Alrighty. I hope it helps. Currently it's just too annoying to play.

[jolly verge]

Game is very demanding on your CPU with all this heavy AI stuff

If you start any map without AI suspects/civi/swat you will have 2-3x more frames as long as you have free GPU usage

[shy tulip]

Erm, if you start the map without any AI, you'll probably autocomplete and be sent back to HQ

[jolly verge]

Not if you destroy all ai after you loaded

[copper cypress]

How much damage can the refrigerator reduce from 5.56/0.300 AP?

[narrow geode]

?

[copper cypress]

I was hit indirectly by a 5.56/.300 AP penetrating refrigerator.

Can a refrigerator be considered as cover or is it just an object that blocks the view?

[jolly verge]

Last time I checked the material of the refrigerator it was using default one, which can be penetrated even with a 9mm AP

[copper cypress]

After penetration, the damage is reduced by 10-20%?

[jolly verge]

Suspects wallbang damage is almost zero, unless it's some kind of wooden door and they shoot at almost 90° angle

Like 7.62x51 AP from suspect gun deals only 3 damage to you, while yours ~140 through the same wall and the same angle

If you interested you can install a mod that show your health, so you can see actual damage dealt to you through the walls

[copper cypress]

Thanks lol

[hearty thistle]

bro, i need some tips for port hokan

[waxen echo]

why is there air raid siren sound in Narcos?

[final ember]

NVG's, a proper long range weapon with JHP's

[hearty thistle]

alr, so what, SA 58?

[final ember]

as far as I know, nobody has body armor on Port Hokan

[hearty thistle]

something

[final ember]

that or any other 7,62x51mm

[hearty thistle]

alr

cuz im using the F90 but still struggling

[final ember]

not a good idea for Hokan, there will be long range gunfights

[hearty thistle]

Alr

[final ember]

and whatever weapon you use, pick JHP's for extra damage

[hearty thistle]

Ok

worst thing is just seeing the suspects

should i bring a 4x scope? (if available)

[final ember]

one of the few maps where it might be useful

personally the cons outweigh the pro's

you're better off with a normal sight

[hearty thistle]

kk

[waxen echo]

what's yall's squad loadout

[hearty thistle]

M5B optic any good?

[waxen echo]

nope imo

[final ember]

personally? not really. you lose sight ofd the tiny dot during firefights quite often

pick something with a broader reticle

[waxen echo]

holy shit hunk from resident evil

[final ember]

🫡

[hearty thistle]

Holo, 510C or XE sight?

[waxen echo]

510c

[final ember]

don't know that one

mod I assume?

[hearty thistle]

nah

no mods

[final ember]

the 510C I mean

[hearty thistle]

you can get it on the SA-58

[final ember]

ah

optics are really a thing of preference

[hearty thistle]

im just following advice and seeing if it works

[final ember]

choose whatever reticle works for you to aquire targets efficiently

[final ember]

it takes place not long after a hurricane

[waxen echo]

o yeah I remembered it just now

[jolly verge]

Take G3 or GA51 instead, SA58 is much worse, if you want fastest optic there is a SRO/RMP option on GA51

[hearty thistle]

alr

ill try that

[final ember]

accuracy wise, right?

[jolly verge]

What accuracy?

[hearty thistle]

what is the difference between sro and rmp?

[final ember]

the accuracy of the SA-58

[jolly verge]

None, just visual, both gives 30% ADS speed

[hearty thistle]

ik

visually

[jolly verge]

All guns have absolute accuracy/zero spread, except buckshot ammo

[final ember]

huh...it always felt that way. but I thought I was imagining it because some attachments claim to increase accuracy. thanks for confirming

[main dove]

I haven't been on in a couple weeks. Has anything changed in the game?

[jolly verge]

Accuracy stat on combat grip is spread modifier, but all guns have 0 from the start, same thing with horizontal recoil on all rifles and some smgs, also ADS speed on grips that do nothing

[final ember]

I see, thanks

[final ember]

as in?

[jolly verge]

Nothing, but you can

Only today

[main dove]

Me fixing my grandma's computer

[main dove]

Any interesting new mods, any updates, and new guns or missions, that sort of thing

[hearty thistle]

which map

😭

[jolly verge]

The most popular one

[main dove]

@jolly verge the old police station?

[jolly verge]

Any of them

[final ember]

idk about mods but if new guns and or missions were added you would see it as an announcement

[jolly verge]

Old, DLC1 and DLC2 stations have coffee machine

[final ember]

would've been much funnier if the sound effects worked...

[shrewd widget]

It onyl change icon and text for door kicking?

Broing

[void briar]

this is the ron content we deserve

[fast hazel]

Finally, judge can judge my bedroom

[upbeat heath]

those bodypillows will def sell better than the game

[fast hazel]

He shall force compliance to my mattress

[final ember]

No way they added the Cutie Patootie as a body pillow

[verbal fractal]

lmfao

[upbeat heath]

we shall force compliance on my bed

[verbal fractal]

hands where I can see them 😏

[acoustic ridge]

can you ACTUALLY buy it

[austere pulsar]

They must make this real

[civic otter]

Get excited for actual patches... Nope just memes

[jade apex]

With the Judge body pillow I can finally have something to replace the pillow I've had in my room with Judges face drawn onto it with paint markers and a number two pencil

[upbeat heath]

why is there 8 different gratr

[final ember]

Need a button that says Stay Calm when you press it

[fossil kindle]

It's like a kickstarter where you say you would get it if it was produced but given that it's not a pledge/down payment, it's gonna need a lot of people saying they would be interested in a body pillow of Judge to convince the devs to make it real

[thin fiber]

hey, can anyone confirm, if recent updates added new voice intro lines to maps, and changed AI to hold hostages in a chokehold?

Ive never seen that before, and i recently jumped back in after several months not playing

can any1 confirm if the game has been updated in that manner or am i imagining things?

[timber mesa]

the Judge voice over was changed with the Dark Waters Release

there were also suspect behavior changes back then too, but not necessarilly recalling that one in specific

[random obsidian]

wait what? did you change the vc?

[craggy oriole]

Maybe the voice actor strike

[random obsidian]

gratr answer us

or kaminsky or infra i dont even know anymore

[craggy oriole]

They don't have to answer anything

[random obsidian]

fair enough

unlike us ron players they actually have a life

[timber mesa]

no we just wanted to update TOC, the role changed :)

the new TOC voice over reacts to how well you're doing in each mission etc

[random obsidian]

oh

[random obsidian]

i meant this what did you mean

(i am not a native english speaker)

[timber mesa]

it's a different voice actor in the new voice over

[craggy oriole]

Also question about the station is it based on any real building

[random obsidian]

so you changed the Judge vc? im confused

[random obsidian]

some train station prolly

[timber mesa]

just listen to some gameplay from pre-dark waters and then hop in game or watch gameplay from post-dark waters

you'll see what it means

[random obsidian]

the TOC changed

thats all i notice

[obsidian jolt]

Will we ever get proper sights like in ground branch? I'd love to use the longer range ones

[random obsidian]

wdym we got the 4x and 16x

but they are useless

[gentle void]

going to neon tomb alone looks like a sui#ide mission

rank s in commander but dying every time solo

[random obsidian]

Canonically Judge could clear out it by himself the squadmates are just emotional support

[sage fulcrum]

The body pillow is crazy work.

[random obsidian]

i know right

hope the cloth is durable

[sage fulcrum]

lol

[random obsidian]

and stain resistant

[sage fulcrum]

I’m dead. 💀

[wraith arrow]

JUDGE PILLOW

[twilit girder]

Im so gratr right now i wish someone would gratr with me

[umbral onyx]

This is a huge issue for me as well, LMB always fires the gun no matter what its rebound to, Game is literally unplayable due to this issue. Infact, rebinding Fire seems to do absolutely nothing at all, Even rebinding it to O for example, O never fires, only Left mouse.

[kind meadow]

what does gratr means

i am slightly confused

[hot moss]

on sins of the father just tanked a grenade only to die to some random suspect

[covert aurora]

It means...... gratr

[kind meadow]

i see, thank you

[covert aurora]

O7

[brazen forum]

is PVP still coming at some point? I swear they said it was coming sometime after 1.0 in an announcement a while back

[amber dock]

Planned but not high priority.

[clever girder]

Neon Tomb 2-3 try S rank

Sadly my save isn't Ironman, so gotta beat the game twice

[vale mason]

Low blow void low blow… I wanted judge body pillow

[covert aurora]

Vote

[rapid orchid]

every vote counts 😔

[warm junco]

.

[brazen slate]

Just go back onto RoN after a while, why is there only 48 mods on mod.io? I swore there was way more.

[edgy linden]

That really Gratrs my gears.

[covert aurora]

Because we did a cleanout of all the old,broken mods

Gratr

[brazen slate]

ah ok, thank you!

[edgy linden]

Wait....1+1=2 which means...it is Gratr than....GRATR.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-explode-spongebob-explosion-gif-22938834

There are 2 Gratrs, and 1+1= 2... coincidence....I think not!

[covert aurora]

Gratr!

[edgy linden]

ILLUMINATI THEME

[covert aurora]

[stable kernel]

gratr gratr
(A lot more than 2 gratrs)

gratr 35
(35 in fact)

[edgy linden]

Must be a code for Judge to switch sides

[covert aurora]

Gratr!
(Yes!)

[rancid star]

Are we gonna get the body pilow

I really really really want the pillow

[lusty flame]

330157273

[scarlet flax]

Didn’t they say they deleted an enormous amount of them because most of the mods are super out of date and don’t work correctly?

[scarlet flax]

Oh my bad I shoulda read the rest. They already answered you lol

[hollow cedar]

Is armor universal across body and head on enemies?

As in, if it takes 10 shots to down l4 armor with a 9 mm, does that mean it takes two headshots? The spreadsheet doesn't say, it just lists 6x headshot multiplier, but I'm hard pressed to believe L4 rated helmets even exist

[prime wing]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/htmlview

Not sure but the answer should be there

[hollow cedar]

Wow MP5 becomes wildly uncontrollable with arm damage

Like borderline unusable

Void kriss vector plz I need my 0 recoil headshot machine

[wraith basin]

Void has something against MP5, making it so weak and when you get damaged arm, it bounces all over the place. :(

[gloomy smelt]

Never used mp5 give me yalls experience

[chilly thorn]

sexiest looking gun kinda shit in everything else

[hollow cedar]

It has odd recoil. It has super low recoil for the first couple of shots and then magically no recoil for the last half of the magazine

It's good for headshotting, but then if u take any arm damage gg you will not get to play the game

This is why they gotta add vector bro like I need my laser beam

[chilly thorn]

Vector NEEDS to be in the game

[gloomy smelt]

What is the most painful mission yall done

Prob the elephant on s rank or hospital on s rank

[hollow cedar]

Fr

[hollow cedar]

Hide and Seek

[chilly thorn]

Hide and Seek S rank with early 1.0 AI

[hollow cedar]

I have not solo S cleared it yet and I soloed everything else

Elephant is ez with the right route

Hospital is a lot of tight corners and isolated rooms. It's not as bad as it looks

[gloomy smelt]

Hide and seek is painful so

I agree

[hollow cedar]

No literally every other map is doable it's just hide and seek that's awful lol

Mainly bc enemy AI is cracked and if they see you for 0.01 seconds through a window they aimbot you

[gloomy smelt]

Iir

Ikr

[buoyant hill]

See im ngl

A kill everyone challenge with ur friend is top tier

[hollow cedar]

Wait wait wait

Revolver + shield is actually peak wtf

This is such a fun combo

[scarlet flax]

You completed that before AI nerf?

[chilly thorn]

horrible buisness

[oak blaze]

is there any more maps other than the main + dlcs?

idk why I asked, there's probs not 😭

[shy tulip]

Besides mods, no

[oak blaze]

are there any plans for more official maps?

[gilded oar]

no way

a judge body pillow

[scarlet flax]

I don’t believe they’ve told us about a dlc 3 yet but I’d imagine it’s something in their to do list for the future.

[narrow geode]

There will be another dlc

It'll be free

[copper cypress]

It took me less than two minutes to trigger active shooter mode due to a gunfight with a suspect…

[valid wadi]

You want real fun try completing ends of the earth in sub 1 minute

[buoyant hill]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-4218575792509432061

[hollow cedar]

is there a way to unbind reload on weapon key

Too many revolver shells have been lost lmao

[tacit gull]

Nope, that's just built in

[hollow cedar]

Rip revolver shells

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

no retention reload?

So uncivilized

[hollow cedar]

What's uncivilized is the revolver not downing in 1 shot at all armor tiers!

The weapon should be objectively broken /s

Also wait is there a way to avoid getting your shield rendered unusable due to bullet holes

[burnt parcel]

i disabled the zombie mod (jn-game) but the civilians and suspects are still acting like zombies. anyone can help

[random obsidian]

Go to game files and remove the mod manually

[burnt parcel]

thanks

[earnest totem]

what is a gratr bruv

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-chat-gif-11854988458409488653

[stone bay]

Body pillow...? 😭

judge is going too see horrors worse than he sees in the game

[final ember]

Yeah, Revolver totally sucks ass. I've seen armored suspects take three AP rounds of .357 to the chest and not even flinch or wince

[bitter mason]

I've seen suspects take rifle rounds and not flinch

[final ember]

Yeah but at least they do way more damage and you can give fast follow up shots

[tacit gull]

Yeah the revolver wouldnt be so bad if the firerate cap wasn't a decade long

[amber dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194212393895604295/1309294997551448084/caption.gif

[cunning pumice]

i just got ready or not with the 2 dlc's guys im so frigging hyped

[cunning pumice]

is this game da best with friends or can i play it singleplayer

[gilded oar]

you can play it singel player with SWAT officers

who YOU will be commanding

I suggest you watch a tutortial on how to properly command them

but yes the game is the best with friends

but don't worry if you have no friends then play with AI SWAT

[cunning pumice]

oh snap

[tacit gull]

singleplayer is mid

[gilded oar]

fr

atleast its mid and not uhhh not like those other singelplayers

[dusk mauve]

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tacit gull]

its over

[dusk mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-bomb-explosion-boom-gif-18347534567261621962

[unborn pelican]

Peak*

[cunning pumice]

This game is so fricking cool I just did the first mission I did a few clears with my team but mainly went solo I should use commands more

[gilded oar]

yea you can try playin it with your AI mates

but to this day SWAT AI ain't really the best

they do get the job done but aren't the best in gunfights as they just stand still to shoot

[warm kettle]

Yeah. No cover at all hahaha

[waxen echo]

is there a way to turn off the music at voll's house

[amber dock]

The DJ stand can be turned off I believe like on Neon Tomb

[waxen echo]

it can't in this map

[amber dock]

RIP

[heavy rampart]

Yeah definitely use them more I know it’s fun to get in the action but helps you learn the game more

[cunning pumice]

yup it’s so cool

[waxen echo]

kill everyone

[heavy rampart]

Well maybe 🧐
I’m trying to get S grade

[waxen echo]

kill everyone. then replay for S grade

[teal lynx]

Do it with friends then free for all

[heavy rampart]

✅

[hollow cedar]

I mean I was joking, but yeah, revolver sucks against high armored suspects (this is, to my knowledge, realistic)

[hollow cedar]

Unchain the beast lmao

Let the skilled player rapid-fire that shit

[tacit gull]

I think it might have been faster in the past

But it was """""rebalanced""""" as if this game has any semblance of balance

[hollow cedar]

Bro the gun is already suboptimal there was no need to do this lol

But I mean it's fine because the game prizes realism over fair

Like in most video games SMGs would be viable against armor

And the MP7 and P90 would not be wildly head and shoulders over the rest

[vocal agate]

i don't even see the point of smgs in ron

most of the times you deal with heavily armored enemies that smgs just can't penetrate

10mm mp5 is okay though

[hollow cedar]

Decent against unarmored, I think the point is that SMGs are intentionally underpowered because that's literally how it is IRL

Short-barreled rifles completely outclass SMGs because rifle calibers > pistol calibers

MP7 and P90 are technically classified as PDWs, and were designed to defeat armor, but even those are somewhat outclassed and outdated

[jolly verge]

Low cal smgs (9mm, 10mm, .45acp) are fine on half of the missions, where suspects wear nothing or level 2 armor only

[hollow cedar]

Just look at the difference between early 2000s forces and modern police forces

There's a huge difference in gear alone

Anyways you use SMGs bc they're fun not because they're good

Though, if we had a vector in the game with 0 recoil there could be an argument for consistent one shot headshots...

[spice idol]

i wish the p90 came with the classic integrated optic

[hollow cedar]

P90 has an integrated optic?

[spice idol]

in real life yes but in game no

[harsh stone]

🤤 5.7x28 my beloved

[harsh stone]

that would be cool, but if that happened it should be optional

[hollow cedar]

Fuck 5.7 all my homies hate 5.7

4.6

[spice idol]

don’t they preform exactly the same in game? i think the only difference is the 5.7 has one obscure stat that’s slightly better in a small way

[harsh stone]

what if we meet in the middle, both are good

[hollow cedar]

Yes but I'm joking because MP7 is the sexier weapon imo

[harsh stone]

the MP7 fucks in game bro 🤤🤤🤤

[spice idol]

you choose the MP7 because it’s sexier. i choose the MP7 because i can’t handle the P90’s extra horizontal recoil. we are not the same…

[hollow cedar]

The irony is that both rounds actually suck lmao

Compared to SBRs firing... Literally any rifle caliber

[harsh stone]

well yeah, that's like comparing a 5.56 to a .50 BMG

[spice idol]

my personal 9/11 was finding out how 5.7 and 4.6 are so bad they struggled with actual soviet era body armor

[harsh stone]

the latter is going to be better, but it's still goated 😎

[hollow cedar]

You aren't meant to ads just hipfire and spray you have 50 rounds you'll hit something

Even if that something is something you aren't supposed to hit lmao

[hollow cedar]

Is this actually true lmao, damn

I mean, I guess we expect too much from a pistol caliber

[spice idol]

oxide did a demonstration, even at the time they were being developed they couldn’t do much against their actual body armor. https://youtu.be/MbPT9z_RzYA?si=6awRmdTBC557RbIX

[tacit gull]

I think they were just made to shred kevlar

[hollow cedar]

Yeah ik they're effective against body armor

Soft body armor

[spice idol]

i don’t get why H&K is so protective over the MP7, even FN sells civilian models of the P90

[tacit gull]

prestige

[spice idol]

H&K genuinely would sell out to the Combine. They wouldn’t even need to get paid for it, just find out they will use them to kill low income civilians is all they need to hear

[hollow cedar]

Weren't manufacturers selling to both sides in WW2 lmao

Bold of you to assume that the Combine would need H&K if they have the tech to do interstellar travel

They probably have ballistics way better than anything humans have

[spice idol]

those MP7s and Match USPs are coming from somewhere

[hollow cedar]

Oh is that what the combine use

Ik about the USPs cuz that's classic old 3D gaming but yeah lmao

[spice idol]

you never seen half life 2 before?

[hollow cedar]

Never played, only played alyx and then spoiled hl for myself

Ik they have USPs cuz I played old source games I just didn't realize MP7s were also super prevalent

[spice idol]

well yeah they carry around MP7s in half life. canonically H&K really did strike a deal with the combine

[hollow cedar]

Lol, prob selling to both sides

[tacit gull]

Chances are MP7 are just surplus or are actively being developed as a cheap alternative to combine pulse weaponry onworld

They were originally planned to use the OICW, which the mp6 was a part of in design

[spice idol]

Lore wise there is no other side to sell too, combine won the entire planet in a 7 hour war. They control everything, it’s just civvies rebelling with weapons they take from fallen combine troops

[native idol]

Can sombody help me with downloading a mod (It's my first time)

[spice idol]

I like the idea H&K just sold out. If theres a surplus of anything to oppress an entire planet with, it would be ARs and AKs not MP7s and USPs

[wide scaffold]

I wish we had better weapon customization

Like get money for completing missions and buy attachments

[cunning pumice]

does this game have like a replay mode? I keep seeing people’s vids have cinematics n shi

[wide scaffold]

Probably they will make it for ranks on missions

[wide scaffold]

Free cam?

Probably additional software

[cunning pumice]

aw

back to the Fortnite days recording cines with a controller 😼

[wide scaffold]

Out of context but i low key can't understand how do people play fps on controller

[shrewd widget]

You have to start with it than just try to get used to it

[wide scaffold]

Nah i'm fine on keyboard

I use controller for dmc 5

Or super meat boy

[shrewd widget]

Me either. I use con only for dmc/mgrr/guilty gear

[wide scaffold]

I beated mgr r on strombringer with mouse and keyboard

Truly hard experience

[urban mural]

Are devs considering on adding costumizatiom to change stocks, grips, fore grips,. handguards, rails, battel length, mag size etc...?

[peak depot]

I would LOVE old and classical handguards on all MP5 models, G3 and HK 51, or being able to have both mk18 and m4a1

I guess they will add in the next 10 years if it goes at that rate

[urban mural]

MP5 variants you mean? Cuz there are different MP 5 variants.

[peak depot]

Considering simply adding nvg+other face gear combo took years and we still don't even have flashlight+peq combo

[peak depot]

All of them, mp5a3 and MP5/10

[urban mural]

Why don't I see the face wear option?

[peak depot]

Idk

I think it was on the bottom of the gear options

Click on it and you will see

[urban mural]

1 thing that PMO is the stock on the Scar-L, why did they put that stock when Scar-L has its own stock?

[urban mural]

• remote switch.

[peak depot]

Exactly that looks disgusting

[urban mural]

Did ever FN make such thing?

[peak depot]

I don't think so and lvar in the game is a hibrit too

[humble mauve]

the LVAR is the IRL Sig MCX LVAW

and there are indeed scar stock adapters to take AR stocks

if its a rifle there is probably an adapter to take AR stocks

[peak depot]

But why do we get an AR stock on SCAR?

I mean how many players actually would prefer AR stock over original

[cunning pumice]

pmo?

[urban mural]

Pisses me off.

Btw why are suspects killing civilians in the 1st dark waters mission? What is the reason, are they killing witnesses?

[cunning pumice]

💔💔💔

[urban mural]

What?

[cunning pumice]

nothing

[timber mesa]

They begin killing civis if you take too long to start engaging suspects or if you are too lethal. Basically they're antsy as hell and don't value the civis lives that much, they're just loose ends and a distraction to their goal of killing SWAT and getting to international waters

so either an attempt to get rid of the distraction before the firefight begins or as retribution for killed guards

[spice idol]

Said, the rich guy who ones the boat in all the white robes makes the call for his guards to kill everyone on the ship. I don’t know why he decides to have everyone killed though

[urban mural]

Crazy.

[spice idol]

In real life, buffer tube adapters are 100% a thing for the Scar 16s and 17s. The standard ugg boot stock is plastic and generally regarded as unreliable among service members for breaking too easily. You rarely ever actually see them in use by anyone, civilians included. I don’t know why the devs decided to add it, I think it looks pretty hideous too. Although the buffer tube stock is more reliable I don’t actually believe any LEO or military unit uses them

[urban mural]

I used to the original tho... Kinda weird seeing the Scar-L with that stock.

[spice idol]

I never use the Scar-L to be honest, it’s got really wonky recoil that feels worse than the Scar-H

[urban mural]

I use that 7.62 rifle that can shoot trough doors.

[reef anvil]

man I sure do despise Elephant. Not because it's that level, but because I can't get a high score when 5 minutes in, they're killing hostages

damn it suspect AI, do you mind

[azure mural]

It’s hard but in a way I respect the shit out of.

Relapse on the other hand can suck a dick

One of the worst levels in anything ever

[reef anvil]

that mission can be done easily by just beelining for the bombs

it has a generous timer for the bombs either way so you can start from the main lobby, secure asshole quadamah and his hostage taking goofyass and then nab the bombs

[azure mural]

Nah the bombs are the least of your worries on Relapse

It’s moreso the two whole buildings of guys with full auto guns

[reef anvil]

ehhh, they're easy to dispatch

I had more troubles with arresting Quadamah in the radiology section of the map since he always took hostages

ends up costing me the run because of it

[azure mural]

I’ve S-ranked every level with the beanbag shotgun EXCEPT for that one

My highest score on it is a B

[reef anvil]

I just modded my game to have a rifle that punches hard, and also we don 't neogitate with terrorist mod

made it extremely easy

[azure mural]

Alright yeah I give up trying to S-rank Relapse with non-lethal options. I made it to the very last room and one of my AI teammates got gunned down

[reef anvil]

Don't ask how I even did it on ironman mode

[covert aurora]

Magic

[urban mural]

I got S with non lethal after many tries, use wedges to block the path to the AI.

[rancid wraith]

so i was playing the 4U gas station level, as im detaining a civilian, then a suspect starts to approach me very slowly with a TEC-9 behind his back, so i tase the shit out of him

[shell cliff]

❎ u should blast his leg with buckshot

[rancid wraith]

fair point

[azure mural]

It begs the question... has anyone ever gotten S rank without using non lethal weapons?

I'm sure it's possible, you'd just have to get extremely lucky and hope every suspect surrenders

[stark hollow]

easier now than it used to be

much easier with real teammates than AIs

use gas or lots of flashbangs

[azure mural]

lol yeah flashbangs would definitely help

[stark hollow]

also ofc a lot easier on gas than on postal lmao

[shy tulip]

Not possible on most maps without a lot of luck I'd say

Doable on Brisa with shotguns

[stark hollow]

outdoors especially would be tough

with m320's i reckon

[shy tulip]

Erm, they said without using less than lethals

[stable kernel]

Who said less lethal? Explosive 320

[stark hollow]

tru

i was thinking beanbag shotgun

[covert aurora]

@orchid ore were they stressed before mission start?

[vocal agate]

give us JDAM airstrikes

those methheads are in for a big surprise

[worn tinsel]

I’m just curious did they fix the game ready or not mod menu

[stone bay]

most of the mods on there are broken from what i know

[gilded oar]

pav bhaji destroyer 5000

I am from Asia not India

[nimble robin]

I'd like to see pistols that actually hurt targets. Would be nice if their drop is higher than irl, but doing pistols run is a pain, because they don't really do that much even from 1 meter away.

[halcyon cove]

When I get into the room, I kill everybody

[fossil bone]

Hey how did you guys got the sleeper Agent achivemend I tryed so often with mods that I Manager a 3.20min with 45 suspects but I dont get the achivemend

[amber dock]

Did you do solo or with Ai bots?

[fossil bone]

@amber dock With a real teammate

@amber dock But on the most tryes with ai

[amber dock]

Try a suspect increased mod with all 4 swat Ai armed with SA58

[fossil bone]

Ok ill try

[tiny quail]

i like that one guy on twisted nerve has the most deepest voice imaginable

bro sounds straight outta creepypasta

[amber dock]

Could be Zack Bower

[spice idol]

the blue gloves plastic bag head suspect from twisted nerve is my comfort character

[sullen plaza]

lol he almost ended my ironman run yesterday cause I thought he's some sort of a hostage with a bag over his head

[tiny quail]

he says shit like "NO! NO! I STILL HAVE WORK TO DO"

[final ember]

We get you in on the Action, and the Money is very good.

[peak depot]

I got s rank on like half of the maps like that

Most of them from first half because these maps are usually smaller and suspects are more likely to surrender

[spice idol]

he’s an honest working man i respect him. swat team raids his building, kills half his people and all he cares about is cooking more meth

[azure mural]

I’m seriously in awe of how fucked up Valley of the Dolls is

Moments like that truly make history

Interesting because the rest of the level is all bright and colorful with upbeat music blasting from the stage. But as soon as you get to that basement…

Speaking of which, what the fuck is the deal with that weird whispering audio in the basement?

[spice idol]

it’s the ghosts of the murdered children, that’s what’s inside the barrels that they were trying to bury under the floor

[sullen plaza]

I'm pretty sure it's a radio playing

*A cassete on a radio/dvd player to be exact

[fossil bone]

@amber dock unfortunatly didnt work but nice gun for the job tho

[amber dock]

How many suspects were on the map?

[fossil bone]

about 30

tho took way longer than i would admit to get the last one so i got a 14 min he roamed a bit to much lol

[amber dock]

I mean

You gotta be fast like super fast

[fossil bone]

ye i took out atleast 20 peps in the first 5 to 8 minutes cause most of them where in two rooms so just sprey and prey

[amber dock]

That's not what the sleeper agent achivement says though

Think of it like this

If you don't get 15 suspects by the start of the game, just restart

It's faster then actually finishing the map each time

[fossil bone]

ye ill just keep trying lol

[amber dock]

remember 15 seconds between each suspect

[fossil bone]

im gona set atimer

[amber dock]

So if you take too long the count resets and at that point you're fed

[fossil bone]

its realy fun to not get the fing achivemends on runns that take less than 15x15 sec lmao

[amber dock]

I got it first try when I used a mod so idk

I just don't know what suspect increase mod you're using

[fossil bone]

well im using ig two so its like 40 or so suspect

gona replace them rq

im gona try to wipe them out with my 320 grandate launcher

[fringe plover]

wonder how much would be that Body Pillow

[amber dock]

40 bucks

10 dollar shipping and 25taxed

[sharp arrow]

yoo i just finished the game

[warm kettle]

I still wasn't able to get The Devil and The fool
I don't get killed by my team and not slapped to death by a civ.

[amber dock]

Cause you have to make it happen

It won't happen just by playing etc etc

[warm kettle]

I triiied.
I stood almost IN that Voll-women.. But she only stared.

I shot half of the civs and 3 of the team, toc went feral but last team mate was like naaah it's fine

[amber dock]

The devil is a secret command, it's not something they do automatic

[warm kettle]

Yeah but I don't get that command

It still is the normal one to fall in

[amber dock]

Cause you don't get it by being evil, you get it by killing a team member

[warm kettle]

I killed 3 of them

Because they were pretty chill when I shot the first one...

Do I have to disable all mods to get it?

[amber dock]

no

[warm kettle]

Then I don't get it. I used a guide and did what it recommended. But I didn't got that command.

[amber dock]

I'll try later and send you a video, give me 5 minutes

[warm kettle]

Okay cool

[amber dock]

As for the fool, YOU CAN NOT YELL FOR COMPLIANCE TO HER, just walk up to her and keep basically hugging her and let her punch you to death

[warm kettle]

Yeah I just went over and stood in front of her

Left the team at the parking lot

I stood there like 10 mins on her toes and nothing happens.

[jolly verge]

Do you have spawn police mod?

[amber dock]

first try, idk what to tell you

there's no audio FYI

[warm kettle]

Yeah
But I tried in quickplay

[jolly verge]

That has nothing to do with quickplay, read mod description

[warm kettle]

Yes I was there but she was just staring.
So Idk why she didn't punched me

[warm kettle]

So if I remove that for those two trophies I get them?
So it's because a mod

[amber dock]

Here's the devil, check bottom right corner that's when it pops up

[jolly verge]

Any mod that changes civi archetype from noncompliant will cause it

[warm kettle]

Yeah I waited for that but it didn't happenedi had the voice lines but the command didn't changed

[jolly verge]

Simply start game in safemode and do that again

[warm kettle]

I see.
Okay is it's only the police spawner mod then?
I mean I can remove all mods for the trophies and put them back in after I get them it's done in a couple of minutes

[jolly verge]

Then you can comeback to normal version with your mods

[amber dock]

Just play safe mode

Safe mod runs game with no mods

You don't have to uninstall

[warm kettle]

Yeah or that
How do I start it in save mode

[amber dock]

Play the game from steam and it will ask you for a option

Click 'Safe mode'

[warm kettle]

Ok
I only get the option yes or no
But maybe I have to click no to get to the save mode option

[amber dock]

THen go into properties for the game and choose from there

[warm kettle]

Ok
Cool thanks!

I will try again later

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/black-hawk-down-randy-shughart-mike-durant-micheal-durant-gif-20211600

[bronze grove]

I think we should bomb volls' house

[dusk mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/f-22-raptor-gif-8379433329118211418

why can't i post cool gifs

[halcyon cove]

OOOOOOOOOOOO

[halcyon cove]

Cuz the matrix hates u

[fossil bone]

@amber dock wich mod are u usuing to get more enemies i currently only get 21

i just neutralized 23 people within 3.14 and still didnt got the achivemend im starting to think that my game is broken

[urban mural]

Agreed.

[amber dock]

Ideally one that increases suspects to 30 or more. 21 is default I’m pretty sure

[urban mural]

But there are innocent people that aren't part of Voll's shit.

[urban mural]

You finished it but you didn't fully play it still.

[sharp arrow]

Yes i did

[amber dock]

@fossil bone https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5122

[urban mural]

Try run S ranks .

[cunning pumice]

all the People seem to be reaching i keep killing them and getting negative points even though they're all very Violent

[urban mural]

?

[heady garnet]

Speaking of Sleeper Agent - has anyone ever done that as a team?

Looking through various videos and random steam threads just gives very conflicting information - for some it seems to work, for others not

[amber dock]

All achievements are doable in multiplayer except the specific commander mode ones

But some are buggy and doesn’t pop for all team members

So very hit or miss

[lone cloud]

i got it when we did 16 man ron lobby with increased suspect count

[heady garnet]

Is it confirmed anywhere that we can't actually kill any of the suspects? Does killing them just not count for the timer?

I've seen people get it with headshotting like half of them, I've seen comments saying that doesn't work - then I've also seen comments that for some the nonlethal way of gathering them up doesn't work

[heady garnet]

and except S-Ranking all missions because of those damn uninteractable knives

[amber dock]

I mean you can use mods to make it work again. Commander mode ones you have to play commander mode. No way around it

[amber dock]

Killing works.

Even shooting on sight works

Except for the one civ ovbs

[heady garnet]

Hm, it seems to pop in the mission, so the civ shouldn't be relevant either way?

But sure, easy enough to avoid

So I guess the suggested way even if you're a team of like 4 is going in and mowing everyone down, over and over again, until it pops by luck?

[amber dock]

Yep

But most people did it with mods and I don’t blame them

Cause the achievement is cancer

[heady garnet]

it feels out of place when other achievements that are mission specific are like "see yourself in a camera" or "slam C2 on a wall"

but thanks

[heady garnet]

the only good thing about those is that you can actually alt f4 and cheese the hell out of the ironmade mode like that

[shy tulip]

You have no idea how long some people struggled to find said c2 spot

It was hilarious

[amber dock]

I mean all games have achievements that range from so easy that the only way to miss them is to never play the game or some are so tough that people resort to other ways or simply don’t bother

Like Left 4 dead 2 has an achievement where you have to play with a free weekend player. That event is arranged by Valve and there is no set pattern when it will happen again.

It just happened back in November

[heady garnet]

ye, I suppose that's fair enough

[frail pier]

Gmod, getting in the same server as Garry himself

[amber dock]

But before that it was back in 2020 since it last happened

It could be years before you can unlock that achievement

Some people have all achievements except for that last one just waiting for Valve to make L4D2 free for a single weekend

[heady garnet]

ye, I'm vaguely aware - not even talking about shit like multiplayer achievements with dead (figuratively or literally) servers

[amber dock]

I suppose that’s part of achievement hunting

But some games make it become like a chore/job then actually playing but you know

[heady garnet]

it just pains me when achievements are bugged, especially when it's like randomly getting something. Especially since RoN is a really good game all around - except for those 2 bugs (sleeper agent not popping and uninteracatble knives dropping)

[frail pier]

How do I say this

Oh I know

[heady garnet]

well, and also the fact that the damn subtitles are over the objective feed

[frail pier]

Fuck I can't send it nvm

[amber dock]

Yeah, that’s why I do all new achievements for Ron when they come out. Cause waiting for patches or whatever ain’t gonna likely make it better

Sadly

[oak blaze]

if I play with others and i'm not the one hosting, does the grade we get carry over to me?

[amber dock]

Yes

[oak blaze]

perfect, thank you

[edgy linden]

if I get scolded by TOC is that in its own right a reward?

for getting the funny F score

[amber dock]

If you see it as one sure

[shy tulip]

It should, but it may bug.

[sullen cliff]

what level of head armor does helmets give in game

compared to the body armor materials, not NIJ level

[oak blaze]

Oh yeah no worries, I've been hosting and was going to start joining random lobbies

[urban mural]

What happens if an officer is KIA in iron mod?

[oak blaze]

anyone know why I am not getting an achievement when I have done the missions needed at a C+?

maybe I gotta restart or something

[hollow cedar]

Bye

Like, you say goodbye to them lmao

[stoic willow]

How big is the team that made this game? I am blown away that an indie studio made a game this impressive.

Oh I just found the site lol... 50 or so people, that is crazy. Great game, awesome job! 🙂

[dusk mauve]

you go to pay your respects in the memoriam after finishing the campaign

[cosmic hollow]

be me
neon tomb
on track for s rank
last room, 2nd floor
qadamah inside with civ
kick door, hit him with beanbag
he is stunned, i rush in
bot with shield domes him with a five seven
s rank gone
mfw

[leaden solstice]

Does anyone know how to detain a civ that isn't detainable and you can't move him..

[chilly thorn]

remove their pistol ammo

[clever raven]

How to change ammo type?

From 5.5.6 to ap

[round pagoda]

Choose how many magazines of AP and/or JHP you want to carry

You can carry both but if you only want AP, then set JHP to 0

[jolly verge]

As long as helmet has durability left it's will block any round
The difference between no helmet/basic helmet and ballistic mask is durability and ricochet chance

[final ember]

you might want to remove any ammo from your team.

[sullen cliff]

Thank you

[gloomy smelt]

4chan greentext

be me
elephant
trying to s rank solo
fail miserably
call friend
20 attempts
complete, hooray.
try to do it solo
teenager mag dumps team
everyone dies
what the fuck

[rare nest]

Anyone got a good NON LETHAL loadout?

[jolly verge]

VPL, cs gas, 2 Negotiators 1 Pacifier 1 Armorer
Beanbag, flashbang/stinger, 2 Negotiators 2 Pacifiers
Taser only, 2 Intimidators 2 Pacifiers - don't use this one if you playing lethal obsession, elephant, club or relapse missions

[clever girder]

Elephant in Solo is possible with huge amount of luck, or just the strat from youtube with Flashbang launcher

I could make it 1-2 try with shotgun

but couldn't find last bomb

after 15? tries just checked youtube, did it 3rd try with launcher

[rare nest]

Im trying to S every mission

[clever girder]

Same

I have only Pre-last and HIde'n'seek to complete

[rare nest]

4 missions down, 10 to go

[clever girder]

then Ironman mode

[rare nest]

Then yeah, ironman mode...

[clever girder]

(Sadly I forgot to use it on this save, could make 3 achievements together)

[rare nest]

Yeah...

[clever girder]

S ranks, No loss of Teammates

Finishing Ironman

[rare nest]

Yeah screw Ironman mode...

[worn tinsel]

So here’s the thing I want to play right or not but I just think mods would make it way better but I’m low-key kind of lazy. I don’t really like downloading from Nexus mods I know it’s kind of easy but at the end of the day I don’t wanna have to send my friend my mods that I use so I’m just curious have they fixed the game mod menu or are all the mods and they’re still broken?

[amber dock]

Mod IO should work atm but it has very few mods compared to Nexus because it's been purged recently

[worn tinsel]

I know Nexus has more, but it’s just really annoying when I have to send my friend my whole list so we can play together

[amber dock]

And you and your friend don't need the exact same mods to play together, you can simply turn off server side checksum in game settings to prevent this

Most mods are client sided anyway

maps are the only ones everyone in lobby needs

For Ai changing mods only host needs them for it to work

[worn tinsel]

I don’t know we barely play anymore so I think I’m just gonna start downloading mods for single player

[surreal merlin]

what is the best ar

and gadget like ram, mirrorgun or breach shotgun etc..

[amber dock]

LVAR

But any gun is a gun

[oak badge]

on the subject of ARs, what is best: AP or JHP?

[jolly verge]

Depends on map and caliber

[oak badge]

yeah, but if you could only have one, what would you take?

lets say 5.56

[jolly verge]

5.56 is bad, so you will have to change the ammo type often, JHP is fine on half of missions where suspects use no armor or only level 2

With any other rifle caliber you can stick with JHP on almost all missions

There only 3 missions with more than 1 suspect wearing level 4 armor, which require AP ammo

[oak badge]

That true for .300 Blackout as well?

[jolly verge]

Yes, it's just 5.56 that cant pen level 3 armor with JHP

[burnt parcel]

anyone knows what u get for home invasion dlc im thinkin of buying it but nt sure\

[amber dock]

full cosmetic set and 3 maps

[burnt parcel]

oh :p ight ty

[surreal merlin]

.

i assume thats personal preference, mirrorgun can be the most useful

but ram is fun, gas too

[amber dock]

ram is just cinematics level type of fun

mirror gun is just OP

and CS gas is must for S ranks

[gloomy smelt]

NEVER attempt to get developer watch, worst mistake of my life

[shell cliff]

wrong , rush with ram and shoot everyone

[jolly tiger]

THIS GAME MAN. it tried to update got stuck at 99% for 6 hours so i restart pc and try again same issue. Now i try delete the game and steam keeps saying failure to uninstall

how many fuckin issues can one game have

[clever girder]

Had no issues with RoN

except 1 gun drop through textures on Mindjot

and 1 suspect getting in "I don't fucking care!" state on 23 mbps

[tulip valve]

Anyone know which side arm has the best ammo count per mag?

[stone bay]

what does "unofficial score" mean? Does that mean that achievements that require good scores won't work?

[tulip valve]

Wdym unofficial score? I don't think I've ever actually heard that. Can you send in media?

[jolly verge]

Nothing

[jolly verge]

Five seven

[tulip valve]

Alr, thanks

[narrow geode]

five seven best pistol

unlike the trash 357 magnum
It actually does something

[twilit mulch]

woah, woah, woah, why the dis on 357

[harsh stone]

unfortunately a bar

[harsh stone]

slow fire rate and crazy inaccurate

[twilit mulch]

skill issue

[harsh stone]

impractical

[twilit mulch]

why would you need a fire rate if you can one shot anything

[harsh stone]

Fudd logic

[twilit mulch]

Dirty Harry logic 😉

[harsh stone]

i like you Slavic guy

[twilit mulch]

likewise

the three of us like you too - Smith, Wesson and me

[harsh stone]

you're very firm in your beliefs and i respect that

[harsh stone]

i love .357's irl but im just not a fan of them in game

they're fun to shoot

[twilit mulch]

hear, hear

[bold sky]

357 is still technically broken with shield bc half of the non dlc map pool suspects dont wear armor anw

[stone bay]

it's because I use mods, hold on lemme finis hthis real quick i'll send a sc

[tulip valve]

Alr

I'm trying to stick to vanilla gameplay and mostly use shield, so no modded pistols

[stone bay]

i can't send in media

[tulip valve]

That's fine, you can try dms

[stone bay]

but it jus tsays "Mod detected: Unoffical Score" in red text under the Score

[tulip valve]

Ohhh, it's because you're using mods, so your score won't actually count

[harsh stone]

I've modded the hell out of my game, but I still get achievements and stuff

I also get that pop-up

[tulip valve]

In that case I've got no idea

[shy tulip]

All that changes by modding is that text pops up

That's it

[harsh stone]

ahhh okay

that makes sense

[wraith basin]

F90 has like zero recoil wtf that weapon is so damn good

[tulip valve]

how come my officers are somehow more stressed and anxious after fully completing a mission and scoring a B, compared to whenever im dead and we have less objectives done?

[jolly verge]

Score has nothing to do with officers stress

Kills - gain stress
Arresting alive - heals stress

[surreal merlin]

does anyone have a save file just after the valley of the dolls?

[tulip valve]

ah

so leaving 3 out of 15-ish people alive was a bad idea?

does neon tomb have a TURRET ON THE DANCE FLOOR

[clever girder]

few guys on 2nd floor

They can see you easily, you can't see them normally

[tulip valve]

oh, whenever i step through the door i hear some weird whirring sound

[clever girder]

There's a dj room nearby

probably bass from there

[tulip valve]

oh it was a cellphone ringing that would somehow only sound whenever i slightly step outside of the room

[clever girder]

Ah, yeah

lots of phones are around the map

[zenith moon]

Hey, this is kinda random, but what gear did Judge have in the 1.0 trailer?

[rotund abyss]

I have a question:
In Dark waters original release patch it was written:
"Dark Waters DLC Related changes:
Note: In future updates we want to try to include the below Dark Waters DLC Related AI features into the pre-existing missions where appropriate and feasible; for now we intentionally ended up not implementing these features to the 21 existing missions. This is because there was a lot of extra risk and resources required to properly implement these new features in such a widespread manner at once for the Dark Waters Release, which could have caused new issues or sacrificed other new features."
Is it by now included in the game or not yet?
Ping me for answers please!

[cursive mulch]

i dont know

[rotund abyss]

Anyone does know?

[cursive mulch]

i don't know if anyone knows

[amber dock]

No

[rotund abyss]

Okay, thank you @amber dock!

[shrewd oriole]

Perchance

[sage vapor]

whos up for a game in a bit?

[loud rivet]

Is a Server browser is going to be implement ever? Would love a server browser in a game like this 😂

[past niche]

does ron support dlss4

with or without override

[covert aurora]

Ddlss ia pretty buggy atm

[covert aurora]

Would be nice

[tulip valve]

Anyone have good loadouts for Neon Tomb?

best i got was an F on a run where I got all civs and most terrorists (except for main guy)

[slow fractal]

Does the game offer controller support now? I was just on my steam link with my backbone controller and noticed the game had a little controller icon next to it.

Anyone play with a controller? How is it?

[stark hollow]

yes

quite good, haptic triggers on dualsense 5

[fiery ferry]

I played for a little bit with a PS5 one. It was fine, but you run out of buttons for the smaller actions and i really prefer the target acquisition you get with mouse. There are some decent community layouts

[stark hollow]

use gas and a 7.62 rifle

[tulip valve]

alr, thanks

[stark hollow]

yes mnk definitley easier but controller isnt worse than most controller layouts id say

[slow fractal]

@stark hollow thanks! Yea mnk will always be better but now it'd be nice to play when sitting in the living room with the family vs being secluded in the computer room

[tulip valve]

Is there any genuinely okay or good pepperball weapons or just nonlethal weapons?

[hybrid basin]

I like the pepperball smg

I wish there were more LTL secondaries though

[eager walrus]

taser was one

[hybrid basin]

yeah but it's now part of the tool kit, and double pressing 2 doesn't always bring up the taser for me

and it's gotten me killed a few times lol

[shy tulip]

You can hold two and use the scroll wheel to quick select it

Something like that

[hybrid basin]

oh neat

but would be cool to have a little more diversity in secondaries for LTL, at least so I don't feel like I'm bringing an empty pistol to raids

or at least let me toggle off the auto swap when I'm carrying a taser. Like when I go arrest someone, it auto-swaps me from my taser to pistol or primary, and that's slightly annoying

[tulip valve]

Could we use the taser and the shield or is the game buly?

[hollow cedar]

Bro we should buff UMP 45 lmao

The jumpiness specifically

[gloomy smelt]

Lol

[tulip valve]

If you couldn't tell, I slightly dislike the enemies

On the bright side they make themselves very obvious

[gloomy smelt]

They are terrorist

How are terrorist stronger than teenagers

[edgy linden]

I use funny 60+ suspect mod

And watch ppl rage quit

[lost inlet]

Taser used to be secondary but the community kept begging and screaming the dev to make it deployable and now it’s the opposite.

[hollow cedar]

Why it would've been way better as a secondary

Now we don't have a nonlethal option to wield with a shield

[shy tulip]

Cause people wanted pistols with the taser

Millions must learn of the monkey's paw

[lost inlet]

^

Dev shoulda had made the TPL secondary.

Then it’d have an actual uses.

[wraith basin]

Waiting for unlethal pistols.

[shy tulip]

Unlethal implies unkilling someone

[stable kernel]

And non lethal implies healing bullets

[shy tulip]

That's why they're called less than lethal in-game

[stable kernel]

Less than lethal implies a further lesser state exists

So why not use that?

[wraith basin]

Or knowing the pistols in this game, I am waiting for lethal pistols at this point. (and smg's)

[covert aurora]

😮

[hollow cedar]

This isn't a monkey paw situation it's a "we must suffer because of the mistakes of a few" situation

[copper silo]

Why not both

Make the deployable inaccessible if it's selected as secondary

[rare nest]

Is there anyway to unlock variety of weapons in RoN without mods?

[cursive minnow]

No what's there in the base game is all you get. More will likely come in future updates but if you want more variety than mods are your only choice.

[tiny quail]

barely lethal : won't kill you, but cripple you instead

[rare nest]

Thanks

[oak blaze]

I can not for the life of me get past a D in the last dark waters mission

it's so difficult

for me atleast

[rare nest]

I havent played the Dark Water DLC yet. Good luck tho

[oak blaze]

It's quite good, I like the first mission

the 3rd is a pain in the ass for me, you need a good team and I have only been playing with random people

[stark hollow]

try using #🔎looking-for-players in this server

you'll have a better draw than public lobbies

or go to #📌unit-promo and join a group

[limber knot]

Yesterday when I hosted a lobby, the player cap was increased from 5 to what appears to have been 10 or 11. Given that this has happened before, I assume that this has been reported to the developer.

However, here are some observations I made:

1. The levels take about half as long to play through.
2. Non-lethal equipment was extremely effective considering that the previous limitations on how much equipment the player can bring with them no longer became an obstacle.
3. The game became very laggy on my end, however for the players who joined the game flowed well.
4. Communication was difficult.

Conclusions:
I have noted that there has previously been discussion here on the forum about increasing the player cap. In my opinion, it would be a mistake at the current time in light of my findings. However, I would suggest that if the player cap is increased, the game creator has the option to create two elements consisting of 5 players each, where the squad leaders have the option to communicate with each other through, for example, the "X" button. Two elements could also mean that these spawn at two different entrances on maps that allow it.

Kind regards
B

[shell cliff]

feature

[amber dock]

But player cap increase is cause by mod

Vanilla player cap always has been 5 and is planned to stay that way

[limber knot]

Thank you for info Mr Patrick. But does that mean that if a random payer joins my lobby with that type of mod, that it would somehow affect my settings too? Cause I'm not using any mods.

[jolly verge]

Nope, it's just a bug

[narrow geode]

did you
did you know
that
Five Seven has 20 bullets
509 has 17 bullets
B92X has 15 bullets
G19 has 15 bullets
M11 has 15 bullets
USP45 has 12 bullets
M45A1 has 7 bullets
TLE 1911 has 7 bullets
357 Magnum has 6 bullets

[cerulean sinew]

interesting

[strong raven]

Yos

[blissful harness]

Is this a form of trolling?

[fervent gale]

I can't find the gun

[narrow geode]

?

[fervent gale]

I'm tring to get an S on Dorms and can't find the last suspect gun

[jolly verge]

Order swat ai to search and secure

[fervent gale]

I'm plaing solo

[jolly verge]

Then you wont be able to S Dorms

[fervent gale]

Worked on ever basegame level so far

If I at leat had a flashlight bruh...

[jolly verge]

Bugged knives only on dorms and twisted nerve

[fervent gale]

Does it work with ai picking them up?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[fervent gale]

I don't even see one tho

[stark hollow]

go into accessibility settings

turn on highlight weapons

[fervent gale]

I have

[stark hollow]

try giving your swat ai the S&S command

[lunar ingot]

how come sometimes when i click that command my swat ai do nothing

[jolly verge]

Invisible knives not interactable for players, you have to use swat ai or a mod that removes score for evidence

[fervent gale]

man...

3rd time btw

[stark hollow]

you have to have been in all rooms iirc but dont quote me

[fervent gale]

Do the have a ellow border?

[jolly verge]

🤨

No

[fervent gale]

🤨

alr

[narrow geode]

[jolly verge]

@fervent gale that what it's looks like #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[fervent gale]

Thanks man, gonna try later when my sanity is slightly restored

[wraith basin]

How many shotgun shells are in one ammunition (when choosing ammo for shotgun)?

[narrow geode]

8

[wraith basin]

thx

[tiny quail]

readying my nots rn

[tacit gull]

NO

[digital oyster]

asznyone else gettiung performance decrease compared to like a few months ago?

[amber dock]

How few months ago are we talking?

[digital oyster]

idk maybe before the start of this year

[amber dock]

Did you play game when first DLC came out?

[digital oyster]

well before

but around that time uyeah

[amber dock]

Then that explains it

[digital oyster]

is it jsut the dlcs then

[amber dock]

Cause first DLC the game upgraded to Unreal engine 5.3.2

[digital oyster]

yeah fair enough#

[amber dock]

before that it's was UE4.27

[digital oyster]

which was better 😒

but anyway thanks for helping

[amber dock]

👍

[lost inlet]

yes.

[narrow geode]

lies

[snow lily]

you're telling me this game has nearly 8k people playong on steam, and out of those 8k people I still get matched with the watchmen guy??? thrice???

[narrow geode]

block

[upbeat shore]

Damn, he actually might live near you

[snow lily]

bout to go pay em a visit 💀

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[jolly verge]

Most people play singleplayer or private lobby + matchmaking in this game is tied to download region in steam, so if you cant find any server try change it

[stable kernel]

Ping limit is about 150 or so I think, so it’s pretty generous how far away people can connect

And the person has multiple accounts and probably vpn or what to multiple regions, so yeah

[jolly verge]

There is no ping limit

[amber dock]

I’ve played with people with like 280 ping

Can’t play and do a lot but still play

[tulip valve]

Should I run Taser only, one of the pepper guns or beanbag?

[amber dock]

taser only is a psycho move

[tulip valve]

But Taser is somehow op

[amber dock]

no lol

[wraith basin]

I recommend beanbag

[tulip valve]

And pepper has people refusing to put down their guns AFTER GETTING MAG DUMPED

[jolly verge]

Taser only

[tulip valve]

I'm gonna run one of each

[amber dock]

spam F and bullets every now and then

keep shooting them put them into stunned animation on a loop

https://tenor.com/view/mirabilandia-loop-adrenalina-hot-wheels-stuntman-gif-23741056

[tulip valve]

I put them into the loop but they still grip their weapon as tight as they can even though they literally can't see or breathe