👮ron-discussion

[tiny quail]

i only have a measly 135 hours in the game (half of those is replaying failed missions)

[dusk condor]

Craziest work

[median glacier]

😭 600 hours spent in loading screen

[restive ferry]

1100 hours spent trying to S rank greased palms

[median glacier]

😭 😭

i could NEVER

[tiny quail]

the soundtrack for greased palms occasionally plays in the back of my head

bwomp bwomp bwomp bwomp

[dusk condor]

Did you know that if you throw a grenade through an opening on top of doors or windows you can save yourself from opening a door and getting shot down

[restive ferry]

It’s easier now but when 1.0 dropped it was nearly impossible with the cracked AI

[median glacier]

Hmmm very good advice master goober thank you

[restive ferry]

I play with music off

[dusk condor]

And don’t forget to bring 9 bangers in large areas so that ways there is more chance to blind your foes, my student

[tiny quail]

friend almost hijacked my phone

[median glacier]

im too locked in to hear the music

[restive ferry]

Armbar him

[tiny quail]

do you reckon gassing every room with the sole reason of "i was trying to s rank the mission" ethical

[dusk condor]

You can still s rank by incapacitating the suspects

[median glacier]

Yes master, I will also bring a bunch of CS gas and have all my people wear gas masks and become the only people to be able to breathe in any given mission

9 banger and CS combo

[tiny quail]

how do i incap? it feels like a gamble unless you're headshotting

[dusk condor]

Lung privileges removed ahh element team

[median glacier]

Me personally i could never get a kill

[dusk condor]

Two shots to the body or legs

[median glacier]

I just let my ai teammates do all the work and boss them around

[restive ferry]

Once I S ranked cherryessa farms purely by compliance. Whole team had lethal guns and everyone just surrendered lol

[dusk condor]

ONLY two shots

[tiny quail]

with a shotgun?

[jolly verge]

Nope, unless you using mods

[median glacier]

i did get a pretty cool kill in elephant today though where i headshot a guy holding a hostage

[median glacier]

yes

[tiny quail]

oh btw did you know you can incap or kill someone with a breaching shotgun

[dusk condor]

[tiny quail]

2 shots to the head (they somehow tanked the first) to incap, another to kill

[restive ferry]

Breaching shotgun is mid

[median glacier]

lmao

[dusk condor]

A breach round to the head hurts indeed

[tiny quail]

in other words, breaching shotgun is a shittier beanbag

technically you're still breaching (into someone's skull)

[dusk condor]

“Your honor he put his head exactly on the lower hinge of the door on TOC.”

(Get it? instead of saying on god)

[tiny quail]

on toc you're kidding

[median glacier]

"Why are you pointing that breaching shotgun at that civilian's head?"

Me: "BREACHING"

[restive ferry]

Did you guys know that Taco Bell sells chicken nuggets

[tiny quail]

i dont care if breaching shotgun is impractical, it looks cool as shit

[tiny quail]

i use it to slowly ease myself to not using mirrorgun everytime

[median glacier]

square head squirrel

[dusk condor]

I wonder how we can get this door open while stunning the hostiles at the same time!

The magnificent and humble C2 charge:

[tiny quail]

C2 never kills, they always pretend to be dead

[dusk condor]

So real

[restive ferry]

We need a command to have swat team stack up and throw a banger without clearing the room after

[tiny quail]

"Come on man no way they're getting through this door!"

"The C2 in my backpocket:"

[median glacier]

Me when Due Process

[jolly verge]

C2 deal 100 damage, it's will kill/incap if suspect health is low enough

[tiny quail]

Tbf, it always hit into undamaged enemies (rest in piss to the one guy that's always standing in front of the streamer's apartment door in 23mb)

[dusk condor]

Suspect: MY LEG!!! DEAR GOD MY LEG YOU BLEW IT

Judge, in his infinite compassion: Walk it off.

[median glacier]

Judge: 🗿

[tiny quail]

"MY LEG!!! DEAR GOD MY LEG!"

"Toc, suspect is alive and secured."

[median glacier]

lmao

[dusk condor]

The definition itself of: DOA

[dusk condor]

Damaged on Arrival

[tiny quail]

eoa, exploded on arrival

[dusk condor]

Exploded on Entry

[median glacier]

"HANDS U- HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM" "GET ON THE GROUND" "HANDS UP"
my entire squad when they see a pixel of an npc through a crack in a doorway or something

[tiny quail]

I always hate them for this like for fuck sake dudes keep it down im trying to approach them quietly

[median glacier]

Fr

[modern mural]

Are there mods that u would say make the game better

[median glacier]

we need a mod that removes all missions with bombs

[dusk condor]

Judge whenever he has the breeze of a suspect with a nail clipper through 15 inches of thick reinforced armored concrete: LET ME SEE THOSE HANDS!!!

[tiny quail]

If you want less meth (more reasonable ai) there's a buncha mods

[modern mural]

Wdym by more reasonable

[tiny quail]

not aggressive ai

[modern mural]

Oh I like that they’re aggressive makes it more fun in my opinion

[dusk condor]

Whoever said real is banned

[median glacier]

the main thing i dont like about the game is the blur effect when getting shot

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/you-might-wanna-rethink-that-donald-winthrop-the-oval-reconsider-think-it-over-gif-23719936

[restive ferry]

Gunfighter is essential mod

[modern mural]

Idk kinda gives into the realism ig

[dusk condor]

No double backing, my dad owns ready or not

[jolly verge]

You can disable it with mod

[dusk condor]

That’s how adrenaline works man

[tiny quail]

im mixed with the ai aggresiveness, on one hand- oh fuck oh SHIT CALM DOWN DUDE I JUST SHOT SOMEONE GIVE ME A BREAK

but on the other hand, i dont think the game wouldn't be as fun if the suspects take half a second more to react before shooting

[median glacier]

It's just annoying cause im already really laggy when people start firing and its also already really hard to see where im getting shot at from usually cause i suck

[dusk condor]

Okay that’s actually valid

[restive ferry]

Lower shadows and turn off reflections

[median glacier]

i have everything on low

i still get fps drops idk why

[tiny quail]

also i saw that someone modded a drone into the game, sick

[restive ferry]

Optiwand drops my fps by like 50%

[median glacier]

w

[dusk condor]

YO DRONE UPDATE WHEN

[tiny quail]

glorified freecam les gooooo

[dusk condor]

EITHER FLYING OR ROLLING WORKS FOR ME

[tiny quail]

(i already have one in game )

[tiny quail]

please not rolling i already have enough siege ptsd as it is

[median glacier]

Fr, I have it like 35% resolution and like 15 fps limit and thats around the maximum before it starts crashing the game

[dusk condor]

[dusk condor]

I’m taking about the big one with the claw

[median glacier]

whoever named these emojis should be promoted ngl...........................

[restive ferry]

Glaze

[tiny quail]

of course i wouldn't use it to cheat what kind of man i would be

i generally use it to see closeup model of suspects and map without the fear of suddenly getting sniped

[median glacier]

😭

[dusk condor]

Glazing is not allowed on my watch

[median glacier]

I aint reading allat

[dusk condor]

I’ll send you to Egypt to buy a property

[tiny quail]

eye of judge

[median glacier]

Nuh uh!

[restive ferry]

My co worker showing up at 00:59 so he can talk to me for 35 minutes straight

[median glacier]

that's too many letters for me to process bruh

[dusk condor]

MODS MAKE THAT A THING IM READY TO PAY

[tiny quail]

what kind of sticker is it even going to be used for

[dusk condor]

Eye of judge

[median glacier]

[tiny quail]

"I bought a property in Los Suenos (bad idea) and the first thing they do is rob your house"

[median glacier]

Theres a bridge to another building

and trash everywhere

[dusk condor]

Entry team this is TOC, calm down we’re not trying to- Gong sound effect and ring of fire leading to judge with one eye and one lifted nod lens

[median glacier]

guh

[tiny quail]

i love how penalty toc voice line can go either "ENTRY TEAM STOP VIOLATING YOUR ROE" or "entry team this is TOC STOP VIOLATING YOUR ROE"

[dusk condor]

Quit yappin

[median glacier]

too many letters

dunno what that fourth letter is, aint readin allat

[dusk condor]

You might be deep fried

[median glacier]

Can you summarize that please

[dusk condor]

You’re more than cooked

[median glacier]

Ohhhh now i get it

I am not!!!!!

[restive ferry]

Did you guys know Taco Bell sells chicken nuggets

[shy tulip]

Fast Food reference

[restive ferry]

Bring that map back

[naive marsh]

Yo

Does any one have working voice changer?

(My games crashing after I download more than 3 mods)

And says corrupt data😞😞

[true jungle]

Fast Food map my beloved, where'd you go? (I will take my pills and it will be back)

[restive ferry]

Send to Dagestan 2-3 years

6 months you call one time

[naive marsh]

😨

I can’t pass sins of father

That mission sucks😭

[restive ferry]

The hotel?

[naive marsh]

Yup

[restive ferry]

Wedge

[naive marsh]

What wedge

[restive ferry]

Use wedge

[naive marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134525907978162296/1322010498354642974/attachment-1-4-1.gif

Dayyuuummm

[restive ferry]

If you can’t even embed how are you gonna pass the hotel

[naive marsh]

I almost finish the mission and then

I get 1 shot and die😭

[restive ferry]

Krill issue

🦐

[naive marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-man-sad-family-guy-gif-2009655089968838499

[lost inlet]

^

[restive ferry]

Void removing every map rather than just adding a bonus map section

[velvet steeple]

Is penthouse the most OG one?

just by layout

like gas station has the garage cut off now but ion think penthouse has had any actual layout change

meth definitely has with the upstairs

[velvet steeple]

Seriously we need fast food and old hotel brought back WITH their music as one-offs

[urban walrus]

They had no choice since it will be unplayable anyway because of UE5 merge or the lighting change in Adam update that removed most modes from most maps, either leave the map in the game files to bloat the file size or remove it to save some. Plus the map is still unfinished and they have other maps to taken care of

[velvet steeple]

Hotel was pretty finished

[restive ferry]

Apparently the ENTIRE hotel was made

[urban walrus]

They still have to port it.

[restive ferry]

The small version of hotel was lit. Room clearing all the rooms

[velvet steeple]

the big one was also lit

I remember those stairway fights

the little gym area

the fake police suspects and that one door after the main lobby that was bugged out and never fixed

I mean hell the art for RoN looks like old big hotel

I swear there was a whole cinematic where they were in front of hotel too

[burnt chasm]

Neandhertale, a RoN modder are already cooking the Old Hotel mod back to Ready or Not soon

[velvet steeple]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message Yeah this

[burnt chasm]

Well they don't have to cuz of my last statement lol

[velvet steeple]

I would love some branching off maps that have nothing to do with the story

a bank heist with 2-3 super armored suspects that you have to shoot with lethal force bunch before they will even be able to surrender or effectively stunned

[burnt chasm]

Also the old hotel (the oldest released build from 2020) are on nexus

[velvet steeple]

the fast food and hotel

[urban walrus]

Not the 2019 version tho

Where it has the most floors (about 6 floors with a penthouse on top)

[velvet steeple]

bunch of other shit maybe even some random domestic thing

just shit that’s one off

[burnt chasm]

Is that why there's no any gameplay footage because of the nda?

[velvet steeple]

6?? that’s crazy

new hotel only has 2 and it feels small when you actually know where everything is

old full hotel felt massive

[modest frost]

it's still rather big i think

[velvet steeple]

oh yeah, the suspect you want to arrest is the yellow balaclava guy right? (neon tomb)

[urban walrus]

I don't know much about that since it only really exist in the dev build

[velvet steeple]

and yeah still big map just feels smaller since a lot is room-to-room hallway clearing which has it tight which I definitely started to notice more my second time where I basically had it down

[burnt chasm]

I'm interested to look at the layout or any footage of a gameplay of that old hotel build (if theres any...)

[burnt chasm]

Also that 2019 or 2020 build is the best build they ever played they said and said person are still rambling about those build are 1000% better than today's build lol

[prime wing]

reddit in a nutshell

respectfully

[burnt chasm]

Nah not close enough

[prime wing]

best thing about old ron are the level concepts

cant deny that

[velvet steeple]

what does the VIP look like on neon? wasn’t able to see because I tried out a dual negotiator team and they arrested so many without trouble

[burnt chasm]

Its just a single person

[velvet steeple]

yes but what does he look like to make him different

[burnt chasm]

Is there any vip gameplay on youtube or any platform? Shit i don't remember any gameplay footage. Void planned those mode into the game

There's this weapon mod where it's basically returns most old build weapons and that weapons are M1911 and had a description that reads (pistol from a vip)

The fps anim shows holding the M1911 with only one hand

[urban walrus]

Correction, it's 5 floors, I misremembered. Also, the 5 floors version is the later edition, the 2020 old hotel is the gameplay trailer version

[burnt chasm]

Looking back at devblog #2 back in 2017 there's this a second clip that from the looks of it, the vip that are shooting with glock resembles so much from SWAT 4 vip player model with its white suit

[urban walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/live/lUetn0AF2aE?si=66MMjDs80cTIhhvZ&t=5273

Skip to 2:10:51 for more footage

[jolly verge]

You mean Quadamah? That his model #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[hollow finch]

Pretty sure he can have a bombvest too btw. i want to remember being blown up by him

[urban walrus]

The one with the gold mask I think

[burnt chasm]

Huh wonder when will we have pvp mode, not like its the top priority for void

[urban walrus]

Late 2025 or 2026 I guess

[hollow finch]

the model is literally linked by aspid right there lol

[urban walrus]

I wonder if they're going to release a road map again for this year

It doesn't have to have a time period neither, just info about what they gonna add next

[burnt chasm]

Last time are just a mess with its delays and streched/overdue release time and still after dlc2, there's no sign of 1.2. I don't think they'll made it out for long period of time. Just wait for more months i guess

[jolly verge]

I remember messing with max suspects bomb vests, which is inside aileveldata file, but he never spawn with it

[willow cipher]

Just finished my first ironman run and got the ruined watch :3

[hollow finch]

hmm maybe he was just vibing right next to one. I was doing it S with a buddy and was about to clear the last room when my buddy opens a door and instantly blows up, which failed the quadamah objective and we couldnt find his body

[heady delta]

Loosing connection every time iam in a public Game. What to do about it?

Its happening always in Home Invasion

[potent stratus]

What team combinatios do you recommend for commander mode?
I usually ran with two Negotiators, a Veteran and an Armorer, but I want to see if there are better options. I don't care much about going non-lethal.

[hexed viper]

I ran veteran, intimidator and breacher, C2 was enough to get most people to surrender

[jolly verge]

Two negotiators and armorer is pretty much the only viable option right now, other traits are too weak, completely useless or used only to negate stress gain for officers
You can try 1-2 pacifier for insta surrender from grenades/launchers

[potent stratus]

Ok that sounds good, especially since I use a lot of C2

I thought about running a paramedic, because I hate losing officers, but I heard it's too inconsistent

[jolly verge]

1 paramedic will always save 1 kia officer

[potent stratus]

Well, I don't lose more than 1 officer too often so I think it should be fine

Maybe I'll try this:
Paramedic, Veteran, Pacifier, Armorer

Back, not pacifier, breacher

Dammit I don't have a breacher

Looks like half of the force is gonna get fired again

[jolly verge]

1 breacher is useless imo, 25% more morale damage not worth it

[potent stratus]

I hate the team rng in this game, got like 4 nutritionists

[potent stratus]

Is it better to have 2 negotiators instead of 2 breachers?

[jolly verge]

It's always better to have 2 negotiators

[potent stratus]

Alright

[jolly verge]

Both negotiator and pacifier traits adds flat % chance that suspect will insta surrender from yell/stun, so they are super OP

[potent stratus]

Pacifier's description says about less-lethal munitions, so I thought it works only with beanbag and pepperball

[jolly verge]

It's affect everything that deals stun damage, beanbag, pepperballs, grenades, launchers and taser

[potent stratus]

Well, taser guarantees giving up as long as it hits

[gleaming bison]

can someone help me? #💬general-discussion

[tacit gull]

I really feel like pacifier isnt even necessary, like 90% of the time suspects will just give up from one beanbag or taser, it might be good if you're running gas i guess

[jolly verge]

Yeah, but it's saves a lot of time since you dont need to see and yell on suspect to make him surrender

[naive marten]

What is up with Void's level designer being obsessed with pianos?

[obsidian jolt]

putting 2 rounds in a suspect's chest, watch the bloody holes, then he turns around and shotguns me in the face

[hollow finch]

I did moral officer, sbags, negotiator and intimidator when I did my ironman run

[hollow finch]

it doesnt actually

[narrow geode]

It does

[tacit gull]

It basically does, it's even more effective than the beanbag in my experience

[velvet steeple]

oh yeah feel like I saw a few guys that looked like that… either way damn I ain’t using two negotiators again it almost felt wrong how easy they gave up 🤣

[velvet steeple]

Effectively it does lol

They should make certain shirts and all armor stop it ngl

tasers are like misleadingly effective in this game lol

[prisma vector]

I think it’s funny that the LSPD has constant budget issues in the lore. D platoon has enough H-SCARs, 5-7s, Eotechs, and white phosphorus GPNVGs to equip every officer. Yeah, there’s where your money went.

Officer Payroll $500,000
Training $30,000
Community Outreach $2
Station Maintenance $50,000
D Platoon’s Equipment $20,000,000
Squad Cars $50,000

Someone good with economy please help, my city is dying.

[modest frost]

Well, white phosphorus gpnvg cost around 50k$ each, a scar costs like 4k$, the light armor (ceramic) would cost around 1.5k$, 100 7.62x51 NATO fmj bullets would cost around 300$, a flashbang costs around 50$ (lets say you have 2 on each member), 10 door wedges cost like 23$, a pepper spray costs around 140$, lets add like 2k for the clothes and the googles, so for each member that would be around 58k$, i might be wrong but it would be around 60k$ so like 300k$ for the equipment

And that isn't really close to 20000000$

[prisma vector]

I was being hyperbolic for effect.

[modest frost]

That's entirely my fault, sorry that i didn't notice it

[narrow geode]

They're on a budget so when we ask for new stuff they can just say that they're on a budget or something

[lavish token]

Does it also count for sleeper agent if another player kills enemys, e.g. I kill 7 and my friend kills 8

[rancid wraith]

Well considering that the LSPD is inspired by the LAPD and how they have a budget of 2.14 billion dollars, 300k doesn’t seem like a lot

[modest frost]

Its with the white phosphorus gpnvg, if you had green nvg, each one costs like 6.5k$, which would make the price for one operator like 16.5k$

I think operator is the right word, it might be officer not operator though but you know what i mean

[rancid wraith]

Yea I get what you mean

[modest frost]

So for the whole squad it would cost like 85k

[rancid wraith]

But lets say with the new guns, if the LSPD got like 25 of each new gun, how much would that cost tho

Just for the rifles, no ammo, no attachments, no extra mags

[full shore]

They're all priced very differently so it's hard to say

[modest frost]

well for the mp5sd6 it looks like they're sold around 500$, seems like the ga51 is not real or at least i cant find the price to make it, the g3a3 costs like 7.5$, the mk17 like 4k$ and the m14 like 1.5k$. Just add them up and multiply by 25, i cant really do it rn so if you dont want to do it yourself i'll do it when im available

[rancid wraith]

Comes to 49,500 dollars in total

[modest frost]

yeah

ohhh the ga51 is hk51

[rancid wraith]

I think that’s enough math for one day

[modest frost]

alright im pretty sure its not produced anymore, and thats why one costs like 40k$

most of the ones i find are like around 35k$

[rancid wraith]

God now I want to see how much my loadout costs

[modest frost]

well i can do the math

[rancid wraith]

Slight problem, I’m not at my computer at the moment

[modest frost]

and find the prices for the items. if you want to of course, and i do not see it as a waste of time

[modest frost]

alright just dm me your loadout when you're able to

[rancid wraith]

Gotcha

[modest frost]

or ping me here, whichever you prefer

[rancid wraith]

Alrighty

[full shore]

Post on ron media so we can join in on the fun

[obsidian jolt]

Do abilities stack? I mean, if you have two officers with the riot control does it become twice as effective?

[narrow geode]

Yes

[modest frost]

yes

[jolly verge]

Armorer and kicker dont stack, intimidator only up to 2x, other traits up to 4x and btw riot control is useless, it's adds only 0.8 seconds to stun duration with 4 officers, there is also diminishing returns

[narrow geode]

Kicker is so op they had to make it so that it doesnt stack

[modest frost]

how would stacking kicker work since the kicker lets you breach doors with one kick

would you be able to breach doors without kicking them?

[modest frost]

i think thats what kicker does, i never really used it

[narrow geode]

If you have 4 kickers on your team the door explodes by just interacting with the handle

[modest frost]

oh

[jolly verge]

You will be able to phase through doors

[modest frost]

that would be stupid tbh

[obsidian jolt]

Mmm, I prefer to bring some C2 and a ram

[acoustic harbor]

How many maps have been affected by the LA fires

[modest frost]

weird question, probably none since they all are in Los Sueños

at least that's what i think

[lavish token]

Is the big shell expert achievment bugged, I clearly landed 2 headshots across the rig and I didnt get anything, they werent cuffed

[modest frost]

two different suspects?

[lavish token]

I got two different yeah

[jolly verge]

Did you do it in SP or MP mode with someone?

[lavish token]

MP with a friend

[jolly verge]

And he was a host?

[lavish token]

yeah

[jolly verge]

and you did not own DLC?

[lavish token]

I got the dlc

[jolly verge]

Host your own and try again, there is some problems with it

[lavish token]

[lavish token]

Can they surrender and I kill them then, without cuffing them?

[modest frost]

i don't think it works if you do it that way, i'm not entirely sure

i know it might be weird but does anyone have any tips on how to get better in game? I'm currently stuck at sins of the father and i can't progress, it's the second hardest map in my opinion after greased palms, i'd be very happy if someone could provide me with some suggestions on how to get better

[jolly verge]

What loadout you have?

[modest frost]

G36C with SRO dot, SOCOM supressor, Thumb grip and laser pointer, USP 45 with SRO dot, Supressor and laser pointer, M320 Gas, 4 Ap primary ammunitions, 2 Ap sidearm ammunition, 2 CS gas, and 2 wedges, im using heavy armor, full coverage ceramic, helmet, gas mask and nvgs

[jolly verge]

Seems perfect, do you use your swat ai to breach rooms or you do it solo?

[lavish token]

How far are 30m, this is hilarious,

[jolly verge]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[modest frost]

Yes, i don't like being the first to enter the room and i dont throw grenades into the rooms, and since AI cant throw grenades (at least that's what i think) i throw grenades when there's a lot of suspects/they're behind cover just for safety

[obsidian jolt]

Trying to do a pure S no injury campaign, all going perfectly well until I open 1 door in the entire campaign without checking and I instantly get one tapped by a crackhead with an assault rifle

[modest frost]

i use ai i forgot to mention

[jolly verge]

Where you start having problems?

[modest frost]

well, i can't really manage my officers correctly and i get easily killed because someone snuck up behind me

[hollow finch]

WEDGES

[jolly verge]

If you starting from second floor, you can wedge all doors on the right and start from the left, so you won't get flanked or you can order blue/red to cover one hall while you breaching rooms with other element

[hollow finch]

i owe my life to wedges

[fickle spindle]

What is this channel about?

[modest frost]

oh yeah makes sense

[modest frost]

"Discussion exclusively about Ready or Not"

[fickle spindle]

I need one person for narcos 😫

[modest frost]

i tried using shotguns and it was really fun tbh

i like how the buckshot isn't so underpowered and the spread isn't so big, unlike in some games where it's so big anything past like 10 meters is unkillable with a shotgun

[modest frost]

well, a meter is around one step of an adult person, so like 40 steps just to be sure

[jolly verge]

Buckshot in this game is way too OP actually, effective on any distance and each pellet has a 25% chance to dismember limb/head on hit

[modest frost]

oh

so that's why everytime i shoot someone they immediatly die

[jolly verge]

Yeah, would be funny is suspect were using same buckshot ammo as player

[fickle spindle]

Best guns?

[jolly verge]

G36C, F90, MCX, ARN18, G51 and G3A3, set sfmb and vertical/th grip for least possible recoil

[modest frost]

i don't see suspects using shotguns very often

[narrow geode]

Shotguns

[worldly ridge]

G51, G3, SCAR-H, FAL. Anything 7.62x51 is goated.
After that F90, G36C, MCX because recoil control is easy

[hollow finch]

ar15 reskins because rule of cool

[plush leaf]

GA51, G3A3, F90, G36C, MCX, BRN-180. The rest works fine but takes a bit of control. The 416 and DDM4 are trash in terms of recoil though.

P90 & MP7 for SMGs. Other are also fine but ammo capacity is king.

Also any shotgun will rip and tear suspects like it’s Doom Eternal.

[modest frost]

i hate finding the last civilian on the map, it's so annoying

[lavish token]

Does sleeper agent works in MP with friends?

[modest frost]

Yay i finished sins of the father

[prisma tusk]

[worldly ridge]

AI wasn't able to find the last missing dropped gun, so I had to wait until trailers cleared it...

At least I could test how great the new headset sounds in open spaces 😄

[azure mural]

I love when unarmed civilians refuse to comply with orders
Even better is when they run in the direction of enemies
It’s as if they’re sacrificing themselves to try to ruin your score

[barren yew]

Shes a runner shes a track star😭

[lost inlet]

you didn't know? Everybody hates the LSPD in Los Suenos.

[azure mural]

How brave of them to give their lives just to spite some SWAT team 🫡

[lost inlet]

literally the meme where the hostage thinks the kidnapper have a thing for them because they kidnapped them

[gray heath]

shotguns are fine until you go on any map with armored targets

[plush leaf]

I have cleared the entire hospital solo with the shotgun. It’s fine

[gray heath]

slugs or buckshot?

[plush leaf]

Buck

[gray heath]

I guess the majority of enemies are unarmored but it needs at least 3 shots to take down armored targets

[plush leaf]

One round to the arm and the suspect is killed

Or leg

I mostly aim for the head, which is easy with buckshot

Narcos solo clearable with shotgun as well

[gray heath]

correction it takes 4 shots to take down armored suspects on relapse, I forgot they have increased health

[plush leaf]

Amputation counts as death so I don’t aim for the torso, I aim for the limbs and the head. I run mostly the 1014 and 870, latter with choke and former with brake

[split sandal]

I goof around in singleplayer missions since i already beated them all

[gray heath]

I suppose shooting targets in the arms or head is still viable but any type of headshot with any weapon kills instantly and any rifle caliber with JHP can kill suspects in two shots so usually I rank viability based on how many torso shots it takes

[lost inlet]

or you could run slug and incap every enemies with one shot as long they're wearing L3 armor and you're aiming at the torso

[plush leaf]

Buck as well tbh

[plush leaf]

The headshot is more significant to shotguns as it’s easier to hit headshots with buckshot

Much, much easier

[lost inlet]

buck don't specifically good at taking out enemies when they're wearing body armor while you're aiming at the torso and avoiding any limbs.

[zenith moon]

I searched everywhere but couldn't find it, where is SWATW and SWATH used?

VO

[static comet]

this narcos achievement is beating my a$$

beat cop to be specific

[rancid wraith]

All I gotta say is good luck

[static comet]

thx

[frail pier]

Five seven, AP, EZ. They don't have L4 armor (Broken override)

[static comet]

say there what am i allowed to bring for the achevement??

[frail pier]

You can only use a pistol fam

[rancid wraith]

I haven’t done the achievement

[static comet]

i know

[rancid wraith]

But just a pistol, preferably the five seven for the 20 rounds

[static comet]

i mean equipment wise

[static comet]

have been using it

[frail pier]

Armor lol. You can't switch to anything other than a pistol

Can't even lockpick a door. You can only use a pistol and use a pistol only (kick doors is OK)

So equipment is useless fr if you want the achievement

[static comet]

well i did see one guy get it and he used the lockpick gun

[frail pier]

Damn fr?

I figured it was the same as coyote in that regard

[static comet]

yep

[rancid wraith]

I think you can use anything but the launchers

[frail pier]

Even breach?

[static comet]

and grenades

[rancid wraith]

That I’m unsure of

Like I said I never did the achievement

[frail pier]

Ehh I'd be safe and not use anything but a pistol to be sure

The achievement would be harder if they actually spawned with L4 plates

[rancid wraith]

There gangsters tho

[static comet]

ive been doing so for the past couple of days

[frail pier]

Cartel-ish gang? They're supposed to have L4. Same thing on dorms but they don't spawn with it.

[split sandal]

I used the .357 on it

Solo and got the achievement like last month

[static comet]

tried it wasnt for me

[frail pier]

Less pen lol

[split sandal]

I got every achievement except dark water dlc related achievement

cause im kinda lazy to buy it

[static comet]

ive gotten the rust belt .357 achevement so its weird that its this one beating me

[frail pier]

Because rust belt you can one center mass shot, they don't have health modifiers or armor

[static comet]

yep

[rancid wraith]

I sent my achievements on #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[obsidian jolt]

I wish we had a pueely black hk416

[static comet]

i wish they added the cut weapons back into the game

especially the one orginally supposed to be in it

like the Walther MPL

maybe its the fact im using a red dot sight

and not iron sights

[rancid wraith]

I’m pretty sure there was a mod at some point that added all the cut weapons

Although idk if it is updated for the current version

[river tide]

theres a mod for that i think

[obsidian jolt]

Post!

[river tide]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/532

[grave lake]

How do you know how many officers have resigned in ironman mode?

[static comet]

yeah i remember it albeit i too dont know weather or not its still supported

[river tide]

press tab

[grave lake]

what else?

[velvet steeple]

Can raising suspect stress be good?

[fervent zealot]

Hey fellas, i have a quick question what Void's planning for the next DLC?

[river tide]

i could be wrong but i think it makes their aim worse

[river tide]

we dont know yet

[fervent zealot]

i love me some mystery... thnx tho!

[velvet steeple]

I hope it has a FNX45

we already got 9mm with more rounds where the 45 with more rounds

also a new pistol optic

I have two other things on my wish list but definitely not happening

M1 Garand with .30–06 Springfield as the hardest hitting rifle and the American-180 as our first .22

[torpid shadow]

Watching a suspect run and knowing full well it's towards the 4 AI I have on hold is not an enjoyable experience

[rancid wraith]

I don’t really think .22 is gonna be useful against most suspects

[full shore]

.22 would be fun for memes

[torpid shadow]

Just pummel them into surrendering if they have body armour

[modern mural]

Dude you know what would be so dope if the devs made a thing where people and design levels and you could play those levels

[upbeat shore]

And make it a contest?

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[warped cave]

What would be a good outfit idea for raiding 23 megabites a second

unfortunately no cyber crime unit mods 😔

[wooden haven]

can you bring more ammo for tacticals like the m320? I don't see an area to increase it anywhere so I'd assume no

[sudden marsh]

is there more DLC coming to RoN or is it just these two

[warped cave]

No you can't

you can bring more flashes, stingers, CS Gas grenades etc.

but you can't bring more ammo for the m320

Typically SWAT only carry one special item on themselves anyway, so their gear isn't too heavy.

[wooden haven]

GOD DAMN IT!!! I just wanna sling HE grenades around every corner! let me have my fun damn it!

[warped cave]

There is a mod for a M320 HE

along with a m67 frag grenade, but I can only see that being used in a sense of trying to be a Tier 1 operator or smthing.

[wooden haven]

I know. I have them both. The launcher does actually breech doors from a distance pretty well

[wooden haven]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message that's a decent outfit to have pop up on the livestream. With michaels body slumped over behind you, of course

[warped cave]

Bro looks like the terminator but for law enforcement 😭

[wooden haven]

striking fear in the heart of criminals. kinda like batman, but in the .264 USA in foreheads kinda way

[warped cave]

Pretty much

[rancid wraith]

@modest frost i got my loadout details so we can figure out how much im putting the LSPD in debt

[eager beacon]

oh my goood bro my team has to stop killing civvies

[static comet]

i finally got beat cop

literally just went into quickplay and gave the bots the five seven and for some reason the ai were easier to fight even tho the friendly ai wasn't doing much????

[junior quiver]

Lowkey, I think we need a more indepth tactician system type deal

I'd rather not have to be racing against the clock just trying to get the AI to clear one side of the building and have another AI element clear the other side

Especially in Elephant, cus it's always the one suspect on the other side of the map

[eager beacon]

god i hate elephant
i had two civillians get shot in the span of 10 seconds 💔

[junior quiver]

It'd be better if the suspects didn't get so jumpy, or if the team AI had a bit more in-depth way of clearing

Like, I'd prefer to have an option to do like, one element clear one side, the other element clear the other, with myself on either side

[eager beacon]

kinda like how whenever you die you can watch your team clear by themselves

[junior quiver]

Yuh, but like, maybe have it doable through the headcams, cus I think SWAT4 had somethin like that, and it was a godsend

[median glacier]

It would be cool if when you died in commander mode you switched to the perspective of either alpha, bravo, charlie, or delta and continued playing as that person

[median glacier]

I too dislike elephant 😭

[eager beacon]

nb likes elephant anymore bro 😭

[junior quiver]

That'd also be better too, because there's been plenty of times where I've watched the AI go and just stand in a hallway

[median glacier]

the bombs are too much for me

[junior quiver]

Same with Greased Palms

[rancid wraith]

wait what does quick play do, does it reduce the amount of suspects on a mission or something?

[wraith basin]

Wrong!

[junior quiver]

I can handle the bombs, but the suspects are a pain, cus there'll always be three all together and then just one by itself, and once you get the other three then the alone suspect just starts blasting civs

[eager beacon]

im watching them clear megabytes a second rn

[junior quiver]

I think it really just doesn't have the maintenance for the team

[median glacier]

Quick play finds a random multiplayer server I think

[umbral oar]

no stress or officer traits

[eager beacon]

its just a no repercussions if you fail mission

[median glacier]

But no rewards either?

[junior quiver]

Exactly, and I personally would rather play some of these missions without the issues

[eager beacon]

no you dont get anything for it except experience

[junior quiver]

You still get the rewards, I've only done QP and got mostly everything

[median glacier]

Oh

[eager beacon]

ohh hes talking about like unlocking things

[median glacier]

Yea unlocking new missions and cosmetics

[junior quiver]

Everything I don't have is just the A+ for Hide and Seek vest, and a whole bunch of S rank stuff

Sidenote, why does the cool wrist planner clip through the skin?

[tiny quail]

I finished quick play, haven't even finished commander because im shite at the game and a dang perfectionist "lets try not to get everyone killed" guy

[junior quiver]

I would at least go for a B each mission (Except Elephant) and then just took that, now I'm going through and S ranking as many as I want

Mainly for the tats and like, the occasional watch

[eager beacon]

i just killed 4 people in like 5 seconds

[median glacier]

I started crashing out in elephant when I was getting points subtracted for civilians being killed when I was like 3 minutes into the mission

[eager beacon]

i have a clip somewhere of two civillians getting killed in 5 seconds

[median glacier]

😭

[junior quiver]

Fr, and it feels worse when it's just all objectives, except getting that LAST suspect, and then he just starts popping civs

Like, how tf was I supposed to get over there cus I was on one side, and he was on the other

[tiny quail]

I mean is it something the shooters would do irl? Probably, but i dont think it got translated well into the game, or im just too slow at elephant

[median glacier]

Dude I got so mad cause I almost beat it, I got the bombs and there was like one suspect and I ran into a room and got blasted

[tiny quail]

the one time i somehow s ranked the mission i predicted where the shooters would be and frantically ran around the campus to find the bombs

[junior quiver]

Honestly, I feel like it could make the suspects WAY less jumpy

[torpid shadow]

It goes down to a bit of luck and a few extra buddies

[junior quiver]

Like, I hate it more when I'm like "Go in, grab the suspects, then worry about the other objectives" but then I get the 3 and then bam, 4th one just starts going ballistic

[torpid shadow]

If the enemies here you, they go active

otherwise they are stuck to a timer before they start blasting

[tiny quail]

at least with relapse you get a 25 minutes bombs and none of them goes around killing people

[junior quiver]

I just feel like it'd be better if they all were together instead of 3 on one side, 1 on the other, or maybe even 2 and 2

[torpid shadow]

Bring a stinger launcher with you if you find one to put them out of the fight fast and have an extra person with you that's how I got elephant sorted

[median glacier]

Suspect reaction time = 2 milliseconds

[junior quiver]

Team reaction time = 2 minutes

[median glacier]

Fr

[junior quiver]

Mainly cus all the teammates do until they're shot at is just "GET DOWN! POLICE! HANDS UP!"

[tiny quail]

before the dark waters update the nanosecond a suspect saw you it went "THEY'RE HERE! gun blasts" but with the update they tend to hesitate more when face to face...atleast in the leviathan mission

[median glacier]

Legit getting shot and not moving

Teammates I mean

[eager beacon]

i swear to god if i shoot ONE MORE SUSPECT PUTTING DOWN A GUN IN THE MOST SUSPICIOUS WAY POSSIBLE 💔 💔

[junior quiver]

Elephant definitely isn't that case. I walked in, dude saw me and instantly blasted

[tiny quail]

I even sometimes got them to fully surrender by sheer presence (and a fuck ton of yelling)

[junior quiver]

I swear they gotta get a better animation for that, cus it'll always look like they go to raise it back up

[eager beacon]

i think its supposed to screw with you

oh and when it takes them 2 minutes to put the GUN DOWN 💔

[junior quiver]

Well, I feel like if it was a real life situation if they were to pull that type of thing, that suspect is getting gunned down

[tiny quail]

i mean i like the new animation and all, supposed to be on your guard, but it's really a 50/50, they either actually drop it, or just mere millimeters before the gun hits the ground they suddenly raised it back up and shoot you

[junior quiver]

"Down, and slowly back up"

[median glacier]

[eager beacon]

this happened except it was my AI teammate who took a solid 2 shots to the chest before he started firing back

[tiny quail]

atleast it isn't goofy like before the update where the gun just flings a meter into the air as the suspect play their surrender animation

[junior quiver]

They're so slow at shooting Istg

THey are just yelling em down while getting shot

[tiny quail]

"Okay, okay i surrender!" Comedically throws the m4 into the air

also there's like 3 guns in every suspects now like tf

[junior quiver]

I'd prefer that than the "Down, up, down, up"

[tiny quail]

i understand a backup pistol but two?

[eager beacon]

no istg there was this one suspect that had like 3 guns

[junior quiver]

Plus I've watched the animation get canceled because I hit the suspect right as he put the gun on the ground

[eager beacon]

he aimed at me, i shot him, he surrendered, he pulled another one out, surrendered right after, then pulled his last one out

[junior quiver]

I just dealt with that on rust belt

[tiny quail]

mind you, the dlc mission 3 letter triad has 40 suspects

that's like 60 fucking guns

[eager beacon]

i am NOTT getting the dlc

[junior quiver]

OH HELL NAH

[eager beacon]

my ai teammates are NOTTT taking 3 shots to the chest before they start shooting back

[junior quiver]

Wait that's the ran down paradise thing

[tiny quail]

i bought it just for the cosmetics and tattoos, the missions is a cool bonus for me

[junior quiver]

Yeah, nah I ain't doing that. I bought the DLC for the cosmetics and the oil rig

[tiny quail]

Mirage at sea is another active shooter so im already having elephant ptsd

Leviathan is really fun, really big but also claustrophobic map

3 letter triad has 5 swat members vs 40 pissy pirates

[eager beacon]

the only thing i genuinely dislike is my teammates, it's not like they are made bad or anything its just they have no idea how to clear megabytes a second

[junior quiver]

Then the Home invasion one was just a "Oh, yeah it's on sale, might as well get it."

[eager beacon]

isnt home invasion just new maps? what's to stop people from recreating it on mods

[tiny quail]

Yeah actually, im planning to get home invasion today since it's on sale

[tiny quail]

probably illegal? Idfk lol

[eager beacon]

are there like home tenants and people actively robbing the place or is it just suspects placed randomy with civillians

[junior quiver]

I like some of the missions from HI

[junior quiver]

And cosmetics, plus a suburb that's like REALLY tight

[eager beacon]

im gonna buy it tomorrow ngl seems fun

[eager beacon]

seems like hell'

[tiny quail]

One of the mission, Narcos is just you saving some undercover dude from the cartel raiding (home invasion!?!?!) his house

[junior quiver]

If you have to choose between the two, I'd honestly say go ahead and get Dark Waters. If you wanna get both, I'd recommend that too

[tiny quail]

i bought dark waters first

[eager beacon]

alright imma log off cause i got stuff to do later
gl guys and i hope your AI teammates do their job next time you play

[junior quiver]

I just want my DLC with more cool shit on a MICH helmet

[tiny quail]

prescott suddenly runs off to the room downstair and almost gets himself killed is that good enough

[junior quiver]

Hope the same to you

[eager beacon]

yea thats about how it works

i tried to get in a stack and all the dude said was "Your in my way chief" 💔

[tiny quail]

"stick together" my ass

[eager beacon]

i dont even know who said that anymore its just all i hear

[tiny quail]

"In the way, chief" THERE'S CLEAR SPACE FOR THE FOUR OF YOU TO YOUR LEFT

[junior quiver]

THey gotta learn to adapt. Oh boohoo I'm in your way, tough shit, get behind me and toss your CS in that way.

God knows you're just gonna hit the doorframe with where you're wanting to stand

[tiny quail]

also they sometimes flash and stinger themselves

i have a love hate relationship with them

[junior quiver]

I will say it's not as bad as the swat4 AI on that

[tiny quail]

on one hand, janky ai, on the other, most in depth command systems i ever played

they even automatically cover your back all the time this is peak

[junior quiver]

SWAT4 AI was both better and worse than RoN AI, and Idk how to feel about that honestly

[tiny quail]

but the missions ost negates the negatives

i will play greased palms just for the ost

[junior quiver]

Like, S4 AI didn't spend an eternity just all yelling at one civ while a suspect flanks around

Plus, sniper control>>>>>

Something we need back for at least missions like Elephant with a whole bunch of windows

[tiny quail]

I actually never played swat 4, ron is my first "tactical swat-simulator" esque game

[junior quiver]

Swat4 definitely shows its age in some areas, but the team AI is smarter than the suspect AI in that one, so I meannnnn

[tiny quail]

ever just had your ai teammates yell for compliance when they see a pixel of a suspects and you start frantically looking around for them

[junior quiver]

And again, they don't play games, if the suspect tries to fake em out or doesn't put the weapon down after a certain few yells, that suspect going down

[junior quiver]

Or a civ, so you start wondering who tf they're yelling at just to watch them aiming at a civ and then the gun goes off from the other side of the map, giving you the -200

Especially on Elephant. I swear it's my most hated map. Next up is greased

[tiny quail]

i remember this one time at mirage at sea, it was an active shooter, i arrested a suspect and he says "I didn't do anything, i swear!"....next to a dead civ's body, by which i heard a gunshot in the map not a minute ago

[junior quiver]

I also could lowkey use a quiet version of the yelling, or at least a way of having it to where the whole campus doesn't hear a grown man yelling about getting down

[tiny quail]

Does swat have to make its presence's known before attempting an arrest?

sorry idk shit about actual swat

[junior quiver]

Uhhhh, Idk

All I know is that the AI just all collectively yell at one civ or suspect instead of just distributing the weight of clearing while one yells

[opal basin]

Whoa gamepad support comes out literally like a few days after I get an Xbox and controller

Sick

[opal basin]

I think it depends on what the warrant says

Not a cop

[junior quiver]

I feel like if it's an active shooter situation with casualties already taken (I.E. Elephant) there shouldn't be an unauthorized use penalty, or negate the civ death penalty for that mission

[quiet condor]

was playing on the yacht mission and was able to get a suspect to comply with surrender through a door, and you know i like that the ai is getting better like that

[junior quiver]

I just want the armed robbers to give up when they're yelled at, especially if they're just regular guys

For example, Gas station

[shy tulip]

Does that really make gameplay better, or does it make a lot more maps less replayable from a fps perspective. RoNs core fun gameloop is indeed shooting/deploying kit.

[quiet condor]

i think the issue is just kinda map design

[junior quiver]

That's a slight issue with some of the maps, either that or AI placement. For AI I will always use the Elephant example

[quiet condor]

like swat 4 where things are more linear, and you often take like rooms one at a time. its alot more wider and often looping

[tacit gull]

It does, actual surrenders does make the game more replayable since it actually varies what AI can do

[opal basin]

God I want one of the dlc maps to be a bank robbery

[junior quiver]

Every time I've played Elephant, especially with the new patches, it's always seemed to be 3 on one side, 1 on the other, and it makes clearing it a pain, cus one shot and they're all jumpy. You get the 3 that are together? Great, now watch that -200 pop up from the last one all across the building

[quiet condor]

surrender also being based on like you getting the drop on them, how many guns are pointed at them and etc, would make things more fun in that it feels realistic

and reward smarter play

[shy tulip]

I think it's a fine balance, but I would be cautious for Void going through most maps and tweaking them too heavy. I'd imagine they have the stats better than I can do, but I would be careful making already more "casual" maps even lighter.

[shy tulip]

The AI do calculate already how many SWAT are aiming/shouting at them

[junior quiver]

But the issue is also when all 4 are shouting at one, while someone else flanks around

[tacit gull]

The new hesitations are absolutely overtuned and tied to the shitty stress system, but the game is so much more interesting with them

[junior quiver]

It feels like I gotta be the one watching behind while all the AI is just focused on one civ in a kill-box

[tacit gull]

I definetly should not be S ranking lethal sin trail because the AI decided to be nice that day

[quiet condor]

its just weird to have moments where 3 of us are pointing at one dude with a pistol from mutiple angles, and he'll start firing, then i have moments where i can shout at someone through a door by myself, and whaddya know hes putting down his p90

[junior quiver]

I just got softlocked in a doorway by one of the AI

Holyyyy

[quiet condor]

oh yeah, the helicopter cam should be something you can view like your squad mates

[tacit gull]

Extremely strange that it's not yeah

[quiet condor]

also

maybe im missing this but there needs to be a compass

[wraith basin]

You can toggle compass on from options.

[junior quiver]

I still think we need sniper squads for like big open maps/ maps with a fuck-ton of windows

Kinda like the SWAT4 sniper system, yknow?

[tacit gull]

Snipers are not happening and with good reason

But a recon team considering they made the heli would be pretty nice

[junior quiver]

Well, I mean most SWAT teams as far as I remember, especially big city ones did have Snipers/ still do

Plus with these big maps, having one would be really useful

[warped cave]

Yes a majority of police departments with swat teams (unless they're small) have snipers.

[tacit gull]

From a gameplay perspective snipers just don't work, i can't tell you the last time i've ever used a sniper in SWAT 4

[warped cave]

They'd be useful when suspects take civs hostage

[junior quiver]

I mean, I used em when I HAD to

[junior quiver]

Or getting a view on what's happening, like suspect locations ins Relapse, or (again) possibly dealing with the one stray shooter in Elephant

[honest atlas]

Overwatch

Or at least a thing to force the suspects indoor

[tacit gull]

Yeah in the off chance that a suspect spawns next to the hostage and the hostage doesn't move from the one window snipers have visual on then you will stop in your tracks, open up your tablet, go to the sniper tab and take the shot you could have just as easily taken or avoided with a flash

[honest atlas]

Yeah

That's gonna be dumb. My idea is just a sniper view and verbal warnings of hostile

[junior quiver]

Like, I'd really like to have them as a form of extra view, or again as a need-to-use type thing for maps with a whole bunch of windows

[tacit gull]

If they do add recon i pray they start using building sides and not fuckin compass directions

and levels

[junior quiver]

Lowkey, bayou missions would go hard

And again, a MICH helmet with some cool looking attachments

[quiet condor]

wrong coast sadly

[junior quiver]

Ikr, I hate it

[quiet condor]

unless void is gonna jump the shark and make d platoon into a offical counter terrorist unit lmao

[junior quiver]

Who knows, they got the supplies. Idk the last time I've seen a SWAT team from the states witht he stuff D-platoon has

Like, especially with them being underfunded (From what I remember)

[quiet condor]

tbh i do think would of ultimately been a better angle for what void puts you against and how they want you to play the game, but it seems like marketing wise they wanted to go with them being a swat successor rather then rainbow six successor

[tacit gull]

d platoon so underfunded they got vbss equipment that should be in a museum

[junior quiver]

True, but I mean, SWAT lowkey shouldn't have done half the stuff they did in RoN

Especially with the Dark Waters DLC

[quiet condor]

or be doing the things they are doing

[warped cave]

ehhhh

[junior quiver]

An oil rig would be a counter-terrorism unit, or even the RoN version of the CG

[junior quiver]

Thas what I menat

[tacit gull]

Yeah it doesnt really make sense that a PD already stretched thin would be even touching maritime

[junior quiver]

Or having a full team with quad nods

[tacit gull]

But this is the compromise you get when you want to make small DLC while also doing separate departments

Instead of fleshing them out they just drag the LSPD along lmao

[quiet condor]

the issue tbh in my experience is how they just bend/break reality to still fit in the bit about being swat

wanting to have your cake and eat it

[junior quiver]

Fr cus like some of the main story missions are things where I can understand SWAT being sent, but like, the assassination in Ides, or what happened in Sins? I would think that'd be something higher up

Government Counter-terrorism/ FBI HRT

[quiet condor]

i can see it in the case of you needing to have men on the ground to handle the situlation asap

[tacit gull]

I can see Ides, but something like sins would have the fucking army on their ass

[junior quiver]

Or Rust Belt, which I can also somewhat see but I feel like that'd also be more government based instead of just having a local swat team go kicking doors in on a cartel illegal immigration operation

[tacit gull]

Rust Belt is supposedly a joint op with BORTAC, who knows where the fuck they are cause they're definetly not in the mission lmao

[junior quiver]

That was my thing with Relapse too, cus there was supposedly a second team on scene, but where were they?

[tacit gull]

Atleast on hide & seek FISA is supposedly taking another section of the port

[junior quiver]

I wouldn't mind some more active-ish scenes. More teams/ hearing more teams in inaccessible rooms, seeing more cops around, etc

[junior quiver]

But like, again on Relapse, says there's another team, but where tf are they?

[tacit gull]

Ides is just about the only map that has it

And even there you're basically blinded from seeing them for some fucking reason lmao

[junior quiver]

I couldn't really care about seeing them, I'd rather just at least have the occasional shouting from in the distance, or on an inaccessible floor, the occasional bang, yknow?

Plus, why is there just a whole other swat team on standby for when D-platoon clears these spots

Cus like, once you start SSE, a whole other team/ two teams just show up and start carrying people out

[tacit gull]

That's just trailers assigned to clearing up the scene

[junior quiver]

Ohhhh, aight

But like, back to the Rust Belt thing, there should at least be a BORTAC agent or two at the truck or somethin

[shy tulip]

My thoughts on Brisa has always been that they are holding perimeter security so that the Left Behind can't just break Judges ankles and run away

[tacit gull]

yeah meanwhile the university shooters can leave as they please lmao

[junior quiver]

Or they can't just stick together

I always like to think one of them is being an edgelord and leaving the group to monologue or sum

Maybe even get photos for his IG post later on

Cus I swear they're all together in one side except for a seingle suspect

And that ruins the whole plan of action, cus you go quick, clear one side and then bam, -200

[tacit gull]

I swear elephant is just a dogshit level made out of spite for people asking for it

[quiet condor]

ready or not story as a whole comes off as something a 13 year old would come up "So where this epic swat platoon that despite being underfunded can stop evil terrorist, the cartels and evil cabal ring of scary pedophilies, where also so cool that we get called to respond to counter terrorist scenarios, but because were underfunded there only like 5 of us responding to anything"

[junior quiver]

Straight up, they need to like tweak something with the AI for that, cus either the team AI needs to react quicker, or the suspect AI needs to chill

Talking about Elephant^

[junior quiver]

I purely think some missions were made just for the people who are like "It's a tactical game, where's the counter-terrorism scenarios"

[tacit gull]

They need to either remove elephant or just remove scoring on it and let the shooters go wild

[junior quiver]

I need the -200 taken out and I'll be fine. Cus if they already killed so many bodies are piling up in a lecture room, another two or three shouldn't matter

[tacit gull]

It would send the message through MUCH more clearly than restarting the level 50 times because you didn't find all of the suspects in 3 minutes lol

[junior quiver]

I'd be fine with elephant if there wasn't the issue of it always being that single suspect on the other side. Cus it's always like that for me

[tiny quail]

honestly, a multiplayer mode on map where there's a "second team doing this stuff simultaneously" on the briefing and a second player leads and commands another 5 man team on another side of the map would be cool

[junior quiver]

Three on the side to the right of the main lobby when you enter from South entrance, and then one on the side with the cafeteria

You clear that one side with the three, if one even makes single round fire, that last guy is going ballistic

[tacit gull]

They've already settled on the 5 man team for all maps, i don't think that's changing

[junior quiver]

I need 6 man team to evenly distribute clearing

[tiny quail]

5 man swat team vs 40 fucking suspects on a big map (3 letter triad moment)

[quiet condor]

also like, half the missinos being about pedos feels like just like something too easy, that just feels like its there to play into the like revenge fantasy of "haha killing pedos"

[junior quiver]

5 swat versus literal fucking terrorists that assassinated a governor/senator (DW lore/Ides moment)

[tiny quail]

we need more nighttime maps frfr

[tacit gull]

5 swat vs literally the secret fucking service

[junior quiver]

5 swat vs 4 jumpy school shooters (And they still get their asses kicked)

[quiet condor]

more map like park homes and gas station

[junior quiver]

I want more tight suburban areas with multiple houses

[tiny quail]

5 swat vs the entire mexican cartel

[tacit gull]

5 swat vs 4 jumpy university shooters with battle rifles and level V rated armor

[tiny quail]

The narcos mission give me that vibes tbh, which is why i wanted to buy home invasion today

[junior quiver]

5 swat vs a port full of human traffickers

[quiet condor]

honsetly mexico would of fit better for what void is trying to do lmao

[junior quiver]

I love narcos, and it's because of that

[tiny quail]

"Take these off, american asshole!"

in a pissy russian accent

[junior quiver]

5 Swat vs 3 delusional guys in a hoarder house full of traps

[quiet condor]

cartels with basically paramilitary level of funding, incosistent support for the police force and still being able to have the setting of a mostly functioning society

[junior quiver]

5 Swat vs Mexican cartel and a LITERAL GOVERNMENT AGENT in a post office

[tiny quail]

what was the fisa dude doing in greased palms again?

[junior quiver]

I think he was making sure weapons and shit got through?

[tiny quail]

also why is he aggresive like dude aren't we on the same side

[junior quiver]

Idk, I'll have to check again

[tiny quail]

shady stuff?

[junior quiver]

Yeah, cus like one of the emails on the computers was talking about him doing shady shit and threatening the manager and stuff

[tiny quail]

5 swat vs topless meth crackheads with smgs

you truly can't have shit in Los Suenos

[junior quiver]

5 swat vs literal terrorists who are bombing a hospital because they're pissy about someone being taken captive

Or the 5 swat vs terrorists who chose to attack a night club in retaliation of bombings in their home country, as if they couldn't just easily attack the underfunded PD with one SWAT unit who apparently are the only 5 to have quad nods

[tiny quail]

5 swat vs diddy

[junior quiver]

Ooh, a PD siege mission would go a lil crazy

5 swat vs a daycare owner

5 swat vs a literal streamer

[median glacier]

RoN try not to use up all my memory and still have ten minute long loading screens challenge (impossible)

[median glacier]

5 swat vs a streamer with like 6 armed bodyguards for some reason 💀

[junior quiver]

5 swat vs oil rig ecoterrorists for some reason

[median glacier]

😭

coast guard where?? navy where???????

[junior quiver]

Nope, we got RoN version of CG using an underfunded PD swat team

[median glacier]

😭

why are they even going to an oil rig they're Los Seunos swat

I guess the oil rig mission is cool though 🤷‍♂️

[junior quiver]

I think Void wants to have cool missions

Go ahead and make D-platoon a counter terrorism unit so we can possibly get our swamp dlc

[uncut ridge]

where the fuck is this last suspect 😭

[covert aurora]

magic land

[uncut ridge]

then i tell them to go search the room and they dont fucking move

[winged bobcat]

pvp

[shy tulip]

Search and secure only works if the AI or you saw them.

It is not omnipotent

[uncut ridge]

not search and secure

[shy tulip]

Maybe they know something you don't

He's in the walls

[uncut ridge]

well i was 32/33 suspects so idk where the last one could have been

could have been under the map or something

[river tide]

that happened to me once

[barren yew]

A cool mission would be a military base taken over by terrorists

[little hatch]

Bro has 1mb of ram

[prime wing]

that would be up to the military to deal with, at least

[rancid wraith]

but remember we've dealt with literal terrorists

and instead of having professionals do it (FBI and stuff) a SWAT team is sent instead

[prime wing]

yeah stuff like nightclub and hospital should have been dealt by the fbi probably

but it would make up for goofier levels if void double down on LSPD CAG

dont think they should, even the dark waters and oil rig thing are a bit iffy

Not sure why seals wouldnt do the oil rig

I havent read on the level lore or description, but at face value nothing makes sense. Its just fun

[torpid shadow]

best answer, lil bit of variety

[prime wing]

the latest dlc is not that crazy

its, reasonable

not too out there full blown cag or in the middle east

[warped cave]

Okay so I'm debating so i want someone to decide for me

1. Keep the GPNVGs Black (I don't have supporter edition)
2. Make the GPNVGs tan (only T1 operators use them anyway)

[lost inlet]

Depends on your outfit.

[warped cave]

Correction* t1 operators and FBI HRT has been seen wearing them before

[stone bay]

How much has the game changed in the past year or so?

I haven't played since like late 2023

The behaviors of the bot teammates seem to be much improved, they actually bag evidence and cuff people now

[junior quiver]

It's still a slight bit iffy

I've had times where they won't cuff or bag, even when commanded to

[warped cave]

nvm i don't know if the tan nvg mod works

it was updated in july 💀

[stone bay]

Man I wish there was like a real run option

[pine pilot]

It would be really good for the suspects in "A Lethal Obsession" to have the ricin spray as a weapon they use against you.
You could probably use much of the code from the pepper spray weapon, reskin it, up the damage and create a script for NPCs to use it.
I think it would be really cool, and would make sense considering the background of the mission

[median glacier]

😭

my computer has 11.3 "usable" ram

[livid arrow]

when are yall gonna fix "twisted nerves"?? guns disappear making me unbale to get S rank

[jolly verge]

Use swat ai or mod that disables evidence score

[livid arrow]

I shouldnt have to use a mod to fix a fully released game

but i understand your point

[velvet steeple]

275 rounds of .22?

[brittle swan]

It happens once a while, not really common enough to stop you from completing it

[narrow geode]

They'll fix it whenever they feel like it
Probably

[stone bay]

Which is never

[narrow geode]

🐟

[modest frost]

Okay, also sorry for the late answer i was sleeping then

[velvet steeple]

If I put red on queue and then go do blue commands, later when I tell red to execute blue will SWAP with red ENTIRELY and then do it

what the hell is even going on there? It’s really annoying

[rancid wraith]

all good

[modest frost]

So what's your loadout

Do you remember it?

[rancid wraith]

i sent you a dm

but i run the GA51 the 509 pistol(AP ammo for both) , heavy armor with full coverage and steel plates, 2 gas grenades, 2 things of Taser ammo, gas mask and basic NVGs

[tired jungle]

Doesn't really make sense to run steel atm but...

[rancid wraith]

Final budget of my loadout is 18k

[stone bay]

Budget
Tf are you talking about, budget

We've got a budget?

[modest frost]

Kinda

[modest frost]

I did the math

[velvet steeple]

I hope they fix pistols not showing in holsters sometimes

[wraith arrow]

I got my fist "excessive force" when the guy was faking his surrender lol

[gentle void]

Finally passed hide and seek

[stone bay]

What the fuck is that shit 💀

[spring robin]

Bro wdym

[stone bay]

Hide and seek
Bros playing a kid's game in ron?

[modest frost]

It's the final mission if i'm right

[stone bay]

does anything of interest spawn outside the building in elephant?

[modest frost]

Not really, you should find each suspect under 2 minutes or they'll start killing civilians

[slim fern]

there's only 4 of them in a large map, trying to S rank that map was hell for me

[gentle void]

Is this wrist flashlight a decoration?

Or it works

[slim fern]

Nope, it specifically says in the description that the flashlight doesn't work

[safe veldt]

is there a differnt sensitivity for mouse sens and ads sensitivity?

[mental fable]

213 Park

[mental fable]

Also wouldnt be surprised the next DLC will be like the LA fire

[modest frost]

Already did it yesterday, but thanks for the tips

[plush leaf]

My Discord bugged out so yeah

[plush leaf]

Tip if you’re still trying to S rank it: don’t use the Beanbag or the Pepperball but use the Taser instead. One taser charge has 6 shots in 3 “mags” so you have more than enough for the suspects even if taking just one charge

[spring robin]

Good morning

[plush leaf]

GPNVGs are around $40-42k a piece, the SCAR is $3569 + $325 from the PWS rail extension kit. 7.62x51 NATO when bought in bulk is around $500 for 1k rounds so 100 is $50. The rest I don’t know quite well but the aforementioned ones I do

[modest frost]

Oh really?

I guess i was close to most of the things

[spring robin]

what country are you?

[plush leaf]

Vietnam

SEA server

[spring robin]

Ok

Beanbag shot gun what scope do you prefer?

[plush leaf]

Coming to think of it, a lot of folks including me have wishlisted for a better Commander Mode where creating a loadout also costs a certain amount of money

[spring robin]

I prefer iron sight

From all the s ranks

[plush leaf]

Cool, I run optics

And also S-ranked everything

[spring robin]

I think ready or not should fix the optics

Add more different ones

And fix the ads speed

[narrow geode]

They're on a budget
No new optics or anything

[queen hound]

Hey do yall have issues with officer AI?

Quite often I leave my AI team to cover my back and yet suspects with aimbot seem to have better reaction times than actual LEOs on overwatch lol

So I could have red team watching one side while I’m clearing clockwise with blue and red still gets owned

[plush leaf]

I’m kinda surprised not to see Bushnells, C-Mores or CompM2s considering that they’re underfunded

[plush leaf]

I have issues with both the AI and the AI control

So I just keep them on a leash and clear things myself

[queen hound]

Sometimes clearing solo isn’t viable tho

[tardy charm]

is there any cmd to teleport to a friendly player? console cmd

[plush leaf]

I don’t want to be that guy who says “get good” but just practice more and more

[queen hound]

Yeah I know but the problem is that sometimes you have large open maps where having officers lock down certain routes is necessary or when you want to wedge/wand and need someone watching your 6

[plush leaf]

That’s why planning your clear is important. Just like clearing Greased Palm is completely doable S-rank but it requires not rushing in the main area and getting shot

[queen hound]

That’s true too

[plush leaf]

The Taser is the most effective tool when doing S-rank runs. Use it

[queen hound]

Honestly I love stingers too

[plush leaf]

When doing S-rank, I let one AI run the Beanbag and Stinger GL, one with pepperball launcher and breaching shotgun, 4 gas each all just for one 2-man team

[queen hound]

I always thought range would be an issue especially in some maps where you have multiple suspects who can Leeroy your ass

[plush leaf]

Cover is key

[spring robin]

Nah taser too little ammo

[queen hound]

I mean meelee though

[plush leaf]

Skill issue

[queen hound]

Some suspects can go full London on your ass and just stab you to death

[spring robin]

What if you arresting a guy and two of suspects are behind?

[plush leaf]

I run 5 charges, each charge gives you 3 mags of 2 equating to 30 shots

[spring robin]

I would just use beanbag shotguns from all my S ranks

[plush leaf]

AI teammates are covering your ass. Command them to deploy gas

Gas is your area denial tool

5 men, 4 gas grenades each equates to 20 grenades

[queen hound]

I just tap shot 2-3 rounds per burst to ensure that I don’t have to worry about suspects surviving lol

If you time it right you can avoid the penalty

I know you’re supposed to arrest technically but after the AI screwed me over I just prefer to confirm my kills…

[spring robin]

Bro what if your team are not holding non lethal weapons like the secondary. secondary can’t be a non lethal weapon it has to be a lethal weapon

I need to leave my team behind at the spawn

[plush leaf]

Then just don’t give them secondary ammo??????

[unborn tulip]

uh ron who

[stone bay]

yeah, i found that out the hard way lol
even then, i couldn't, for the life of me, find the last bomb

[spring robin]

In elephant?

[stone bay]

yes

[modest frost]

I got elephant on D tier and that was enough, i might S rank it later

[spring robin]

The locations of the bombs are at science classrooms,lobby,cafeteria,and the place that has a lot of seats

[modest frost]

I know

[wary summit]

Are you able to change your gas mask's look?

[modest frost]

I have a bigger problem with finding the shooters, and i still need to beat the game (i'm on neon tomb currently, last time i played i had to take a break)

[modest frost]

Yes, you have to get S on relapse to get one or beat every main level in game to get the other one

[wary summit]

uh huh I see because I have "Customization Unlocked" mod and there are 3 gas masks models, but whichever one I pick I still have the deafult one

[jolly verge]

You have outdated unlocker

[wary summit]

maybe

[stone bay]

i got an A before the update (when civilians weren't executed and bombs were in like 2 or 4-5 open places)
trying S rn tho

[modest frost]

Good luck!

[stone bay]

thanks man, ill need it

[spring robin]

Yes there’s two different kinds of gas masks 1 is to get B one relapse
2 is to complete all missions on ready or not campaign
3 is to buy the bundle of ready or not
Includes new kind 4 different colours of gas masks

I wouldn’t buy it because it’s just a skin I’ll complete all missions instead

But if you want to buy it’s whatever you want

[stone bay]

i see, thank you!

[wary summit]

Yeah, I mean I know that there are different models I was just wondering if it's a glitch that when I change it my character is still wearing the deafult one

[spring robin]

Np

[wary summit]

but thanks

[spring robin]

Yeah

It’s a bug

You need to reset it to the default one and change back to your new skin
Or delete some your uniforms (if you have so much) this may cost your gas masks to bug

You could see it right here

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

I need to go bye

[wary summit]

alr thanks have a good one

[heavy cedar]

I just realised

Since im on steam deck i can reduce the resolution scale to 50% and the game will look the exact same but with 30 extra frames

[valid leaf]

guysguysguys, with the new controller support is it safe to say RoN will he coming to console??? hungry jacks haven't responded to my application yet so I can't buy a pc anytime soon 😭😭😭

[prisma vector]

I don’t get the point of the .300 Blackout rifles in RoN.

[empty igloo]

not sure about that

[gentle void]

guys

Will I get rank S if I kill hostage takers instead of using non lethal?

[jolly verge]

You will get only 5 points for killed suspect

[narrow geode]

No

[fallow zenith]

How do I be an officer

oh i am one

[tacit gull]

play Ready Or Not

[sinful kraken]

Guys buckshot or slug better?

[gentle void]

alr

[hexed viper]

Slugs

[full shore]

Buckshot. Just use a rifle if you're considering slugs

[torpid cipher]

AR suggestions? Need smth compact and strong.

[full shore]

Sr16. You'll never change guns again

[torpid cipher]

Thats long but lemme try.

[full shore]

👍

[narrow geode]

Slug sucks
Use buckshot

[obsidian jolt]

Drops suspects in 1 hit in mamy cases

[prisma vector]

I second this. It’s so reliable and accurate.

[random obsidian]

Since our arugument i have awoken and relized the almighty SR-16 is really good

Iron sights are the best

accurate and nice looking

[full shore]

🤝

[torpid cipher]

So, In multiplayer, You need to complete all the levels in order for u to get the Swat 99 things or you can do them randomly?

[split sandal]

where is the hidden body location in Mirage at Sea other than the kitchen

[torpid cipher]

Agreed, didnt use it before cuz of the lenght but if you really think about it the lenght doesn't even matter that much.

[random obsidian]

How long is the it?

20 inches?

As in gun

[torpid cipher]

Idk but one of the longest ARs for sure

[random obsidian]

Its massive

[torpid cipher]

Massive..

[random obsidian]

LOOWWW!!!

[junior quiver]

Straight up, I need taser as a secondary again

I don't want my AI with the shield decking a suspect in a nonlethal run, ruining my S rank

[stone bay]

Mk18 is best actually

[random obsidian]

I just like the iron sights

[junior quiver]

Boooooo

Use Eotech, like a man

[frank yew]

Pretty sure it’s a 14.5 barrel

[random obsidian]

Also it’s longer which I think means more velocity

[frank yew]

This is correct

[random obsidian]

Why tho?
I’m stupid but how does longer barrel make the bullet go faster?

[stone bay]

More effective combustion
Or something

[frank yew]

I may be totally wrong but I believe it’s more rotation

Ketchup may be right also

[stone bay]

Yeah it looks like I was right
Propellant has a chance to burn completely

[frank yew]

W fact check moment

[random obsidian]

Makes sense,forces the gasses to make the bullet go faster

[modest frost]

if i'm right, the combustion is more complete and it results in higher velocities

its like pushing a ball from a table

the only force applied is the pushing

no gravity and no friction

[stone bay]

I already said that

[modest frost]

the more you push it the faster it is

[stone bay]

Up to a certain point*
Eventually it's not gonna make a difference

[modest frost]

i am blind

[stone bay]

[modest frost]

yeah ik

[narrow geode]

I love eotech
I love not being able to see properly

[native rune]

Who loves iron sights? 🤚 🤚 🤚

Who wants to stick their eye down a tiny metal hole? 🦗 🦗 🦗

[random obsidian]

Me!

[karmic bison]

is it possible to play solo w/o AI

[native rune]

Just tell them to wait somewhere

[frank yew]

EOTECH slander is wild

[random obsidian]

Just tell the AI to stand in a corner

[karmic bison]

aight

[stone bay]

Real men bring the MA4C ICWS

[flat pawn]

I dunno how to tell the Devs directly but in single player it would be so sick if there was a box in an officers bio that told you how many missions you had done with them

It would also be dope if there were more then 3 face models for your 4 team mates!

[random obsidian]

I prefer the ingame 510c
I think the eotech in game sits to far up on the gun