👮ron-discussion

[stone stump]

steel became useless the moment they introduced bullet splashing (which they call spalling because reasons) off of it (and doing AoE damage)

[astral warren]

I don't care about my bots getting damaged, I don't have friends to play with, lol.

[viral bone]

#🔎looking-for-players try it

[astral warren]

Even still, the splashing damage is tiny, and shouldn't matter unless you're at death's door, in which case you should probably be covering long angles to improve your longevity, not waddling down a corridor with your steel armour wearing pals.

I think they halved the splashing damage recently, didn't they?

[frigid jasper]

DLC size of a main game.

[stone stump]

nuh uh, dripfeeding small dlcs so that they eventually make quite a sum is the goal

[umbral oar]

next dlc will make big bucks

[astral warren]

I want the next DLC to make .300blk and 7.62x39 and 10mm and .45ACP different bullets instead of both doing identical damage and one producing far more recoil with fewer available platforms.

Even shitty federal brand 10mm would perform more like .40S&W than .45ACP

[umbral oar]

that would be pretty sweet

[astral warren]

I just want 10mm to be good

give me the fed bullets

[smoky river]

Has anyone ran into a bug on Carrier of the Vine where Elaine isn't spawning in? Am I just not looking hard enough?

[obsidian hornet]

Any rifle weapon mods that use .300 Blackout? I'm only finding 5.56 and some AK's/shotguns

[obsidian jolt]

Something that should be very easy to do (since there is a lot of mod maps like that) and would be awesome would be to add a night version of some of the maps in the campaign

[stone stump]

light is baked into the map in ron, so it's anything but easy

[astral warren]

Yeah, raytracing is really nice for the developer, but then the end user gets 15 FPS, so it's better to just have baked in lighting even though it can be a bit of a pain in the ass.

The highest I.Q. gigachad implementation of raytracing is in metro exodus imo, it has a setting for a hybrid option that keeps frames high while making the lighting very convincing, pretty, and dynamic.

[stone stump]

raytracing is the last thing you'll ever need to have dynamic lighting though

[astral warren]

Yes, but it's easier to implement, and muh GPU technology marketing

[near helm]

hey guys is there a way to change/assign teams (blue, red) and the teamleader in ready or not multiplayer

[winter pendant]

Not currently

[astral warren]

just use the blue people for entering and the red people for holding angles, that's what I do

[obsidian jolt]

Baked just means the light sources are static isnt it

[stone stump]

debatable if it's easier to implement in kitchen sink engines like unreal, where global illumination is like the default

[obsidian jolt]

How do modders do it if it is so extremely hard xd

[stone stump]

no, the light is literally baked into the textures

[obsidian jolt]

[stone stump]

into the map

light sources are actually dynamic (or at least some of them)

except for the sun of course

[stone stump]

maybe i worded it poorly. it's not that hard, it's just tedious and requires a separate version of the map just for the different light setup

tl;dr: impractical

[astral warren]

unreal being garbage isn't raytracing's fault 🤷

[obsidian jolt]

Raytracing is like, you slap a light source and the graphics card does all the job of the light interacting with the textures and models?

[astral warren]

In its most basic form, yes, but ideally you use post processing effects and standard lighting effects for distance light sources so the game can be played at more than 30 FPS on the latest and greatest hardware.

The problem with how raytracing is implemented often is developers see it as a time saver, which it definitely can be, but then fail to realize that saving time making the game isn't worth it if nobody can run it, so ideally you use it alongside traditional lighting techniques to improve fidelity without ruining performance.

As I said, Metro Exodus has one of the best implementations of raytracing in the video game industry, even to this day despite the fact the game's not getting any younger, in my opinion.

[stone stump]

could be because the hardware isn't powerful enough yet to warrant actual raytracing use, so in most cases it's added as a gimmick and to have the right to brag about having RT in the game

[stone stump]

generally you don't blame the tool for being used wrong

[obsidian jolt]

Same tbf, played it in 2k raytracing ultra with 80-100fps with my 4070

[hidden rapids]

WHAT

4 OUT OFF 5 OFFICERS INCLUDING ME JUST GOT TAKEN OUT IN ARROUND 3 SECONDS BY A DUDE WITH A FAL

[obsidian jolt]

Get rekt

[hidden rapids]

Well in my defense im running a very difficult modded instance off the game

and 1 round off 308 takes me out

this is acctualy impossibel a single dude took me out in unhuman times

even after getting hit by a frag

i could run gas but whats the fun in that

[winter orbit]

Seems like a skill issue tbh?

[umbral oar]

i invented a game

you need a sprint mod, two players with no helmet or armor and 1 breaching ram and 1 breaching shotty

and u basically chase each other in the kill house

[winter pendant]

I'll do you one better. Launch single player, tell your team to hold. Walk far away and then headshot one of them. Try to complete the map before they kill you

[hidden rapids]

i dare you to do it

ill send you what i run

[violet panther]

Hi. Just started playing via controller and was wondering I could change the canted aim from tilt left to tilt right? I find if I light press aim I go into a cant aim mode but would like to do that to the right too. Thanks.

[winter pendant]

You can lean but you can't change the direction canted aim tilts the gun

Your shooter is right handed, it just wouldn't... Be... Good

[umbral oar]

that’s cool as heck

[violet panther]

Yea it’s pretty neat and I can lean the other way as well using tilt right button. But would be handy to quick change either way

[surreal garnet]

just got myk first solo s rank! 🙂 was easier than i thought, actually by accident kinda

[faint gazelle]

I'm done with oil rig on non-lethal a suspect while getting restrained started reloading a p90 and shot me WHILE DURING ARRESTING ANIMATION 😭

[gun reloaded on it's own on my screen, floating in air]

[hidden rapids]

when you misstrow a m76 accept your fate your dead

[faint gazelle]

anybody knows what are the 2 hidden achievements

of Dark Water DLC

[amber dock]

one is finding the hidden room in 3 letter triad

[random obsidian]

Guys

How do i get an S on valley,I am slowly going insane for that polo shirt

Please help me

[winter pendant]

Slow tf down and utilize cover

[hidden rapids]

[winter pendant]

Also note that you don't have to call for compliance before using ltl. You can shoot on sight

[faint gazelle]

oo? and the other one

[amber dock]

get your SWAT Ai to kill you using the 'kill me ' command

[faint gazelle]

...? it's a standard game achievement

not DLC exclusive achievement dawg

[winter pendant]

||Seeing yourself on helicopter camera||

[faint gazelle]

did that alr

[winter pendant]

Ohp

[hidden rapids]

i wish we got tarkov like scopes in RoN

and why cant the mk18 mount the nf atacr

[faint gazelle]

i wish we had more non lethal weapons

or like less lethal than standard but capable of killing when used too heavily against a suspect

because god damn, every non lethal weapon sucks ass besides taser and maybe beanbag shotgun 😭

[hidden rapids]

What can you make non lethal

[faint gazelle]

More variants of weapons

[hidden rapids]

they would all still be pepper guns

[faint gazelle]

Well but they can make it better, it takes me 1 mag to put a guy down on his knees

[hidden rapids]

how would they make it better

[faint gazelle]

Currently non lethal weapons are kinda a joke in RON, they often dont work like they're supposed to, most of the suspects just brush the ammunition off and run 1 meters away just to shoot you again

[faint gazelle]

I dont know im not a dev dawg 💔 Dont ask me

I deadss sent 2 pepperball mags into a suspect with p90, he coughed for like 3 seconds then magdumped me with p90 😭

While getting yelled at continously to surrender by me and my homie

[hidden rapids]

true

[faint gazelle]

Or suspect that got shot with a beanbag shotgun three times in a row, got on his knees and started shooting out of animation

[hidden rapids]

pepper should last longer

[faint gazelle]

Or Dorms during home invasion update before patch was horrible to do with non lethal 💔 Homeless people were IMMUNE TO NON LETHAL

I deadass have a clip of a homeless dude withstanding 5 beanbag shots, 2 mags of pepperballs, 3 tasers , a flashbang and few hits from a gun stock

[hidden rapids]

beanbags should have the possibility of breaking their fucking bones

[faint gazelle]

YES but they don't do nothing , they do nothing OR kill your suspect 😭

[hidden rapids]

damn send me that

[faint gazelle]

Need to find it first , but funny thing was today, i shot a dude with beanbag shotgun and he bled out and died? [he was the last suspect ]

[hidden rapids]

hmmm i guess replace the beanbag with a mossberg 590

[faint gazelle]

Non lethals are really unbalanced, they work like dogshit most of the time and also their functionality sucks because they're slow as hell and miss most of the time

[faint gazelle]

Yeah or something like pellet guns

[hidden rapids]

pellet guns are deadly

and are also a bloody nightmare too use

[faint gazelle]

Well not pellet guns as of pellet guns, i meant less deadly weapons but capable of being non lethal at most

We need something balancing out these fucking non lethal shits, it's a nightmare

[brittle swan]

i think we should change the definition of arrested alive suspect to them still having some blood in their veins

[hidden rapids]

S rank is cool and all but i must first worry about killing 40 suspects with ak's and makarovs that deal extra damage and are as fast and accurate as john wick after consuming 50 redbulls

[faint gazelle]

yes, it is also annoying how sometimes suspects randomly die , i had a situation yesterday where i shot a suspect in his arm and he died 5 minutes later

[he was fully alive on his knees, insulting me ]

[hidden rapids]

its more annoying when suspects randomly appear

[faint gazelle]

Bro suspects on some maps are overkill 😭 Especially on that hotel map likE DAWG faking secret service

[hidden rapids]

a suspect just spawned behind my back whilest i was arresting a bugged civie in a cleared room

[faint gazelle]

Or when it's 2 of them left and they randomly decide "oh yeah" and start chasing you from behind instead of remaining hidden like they did FOR THE WHOLE GAME BEFORE

[steep ridge]

they are technically secret service, just terrorist sleeper cells secret service

[faint gazelle]

well yea but dawg, before a patch at 1.0 , 2 of these dudes DONE A FREAKING BACKFLIP AND SHOT ME WITH A SINGLE BULLET TO DEATH

[steep ridge]

also its not like theyre gonna let anyone close to the senators fucking family

especially if theyre terrorists who tried to fucking kill the guy

[faint gazelle]

Right but they're still overpowered, considering how many of them are slammed in that hotel

[hidden rapids]

I run rip or not + bha so my game is basicly like putting one man with an elephant gun against 40 elephants on meth

[faint gazelle]

Also adding up that most of the npcs ignore injuries in most of the cases

[brittle swan]

i love john "the pirate" wick killing me from across the map with a pistol

[faint gazelle]

Nowadays i'm fine with lots of suspects because i finished home invasion on max suspects mod with that one mod where they're very aggressive

[faint gazelle]

I once got sniped with a shotgun from across the post service map 💔

[hidden rapids]

How many suspects are max suspects?

[faint gazelle]

I think on law maker it was 38

[hidden rapids]

Im doing something similar

[faint gazelle]

Though ,i dont know if it was modded amount or max base amount

[hidden rapids]

Just a tad bit more difficult

[faint gazelle]

Well it's fun tho, especially when m249saw was a mod before dark water DLC

[amber dock]

yeah

[hidden rapids]

Because the ai can kill you instantly in less than a second

[faint gazelle]

yeah bro armor doesnt matter when it comes to mods 😭

[hidden rapids]

yeah they need too fix the m249 mod

[faint gazelle]

we lowkey need an actual machine gun in RON or something very powerful

[hidden rapids]

headshots just demolish you

[faint gazelle]

I once got shot in my knee and died on spot on lawmaker

Almost threw my monitor out

[pallid idol]

hello

[hidden rapids]

if you meet any suspect its a garanteed leg injury at best. And there are 40

[faint gazelle]

I've been playing ron since like 2022 and the amount of bugs i see in dlcs is insane 😭 the NPC's are either john wicks or spongebob dodging bullets

[faint gazelle]

Nah trust i'm a CS grenade main 😊 I always throw tons into big rooms

It's funny how suspects on oil rig wear gas masks but they choke from CS gas

[brittle swan]

this is the worst part about the new map, its just so large you cant have that many to cover it all

talking bout elysium

[faint gazelle]

YES AND THESE IDIOTS ON OIL RIG wall-bang U MOst of the time because they have better angle view than your character 😭

[hidden rapids]

Gas makes the mods not matter

So i only run m76 frag granades or flashes

[faint gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233893053467463723/1319762198469283995/Ready_Or_Not_2024.12.20_-_21.23.25.17.DVR.mp4?ex=676723d4&is=6765d254&hm=7642580941af8e2c15aff768bf7358657ab00a79f597a08c5e967ad871ff51d5&

[brittle swan]

oil rig isnt that bad

[faint gazelle]

Here a clip for context , Ok it wont send what the hell

[hidden rapids]

it did send you just dont have embed perms

[brittle swan]

atleast they fixed the suspects not reacting to gas at all soon

[faint gazelle]

On god the frag are god tier, but pre home invasion frags WERE INSANE, BLOWING UP ENTIRE FLOORS

[faint gazelle]

I js realized yea

[hidden rapids]

i only run 2 frags cause i like a challenge

[faint gazelle]

i always run casually mk17 modded, automatic glock , 3 frags, 1 bang and lockpick gun

[hidden rapids]

DID THAT GUY JUST DIE TOO BLOODY PEPERSPRAY

[brittle swan]

now my ai ran into main room to path to me

[faint gazelle]

Who

[pallid idol]

why is wallbanging so broken

[faint gazelle]

Eli is a goated AI member, dude carried my game on 3 letter triad, bro won 1v8

[faint gazelle]

I dont know the AI are superhumans 😭

[pallid idol]

it's really annoyinG

i was on neon tomb

[faint gazelle]

Also annoying is that one dude spawning on bridge spawnpoint at oil rig, right above the body at staircase as you spawn

[pallid idol]

and they just kept shooting me through walls

[hidden rapids]

I run mk18 unsuspressed, the p228, 3 cs's 5 prim mags, 2 secondary mags, 2 m76 ,light armor with steel plates and nvgs

[pallid idol]

true

[steep ridge]

m76?

[brittle swan]

modded

[faint gazelle]

neon tomb is probably the hardest mission on max suspects and volatile suspects, i seen civilians running into my homie with bomb vests 😭

[steep ridge]

ah yes

[pallid idol]

damn

[brittle swan]

i like the new g3 alot, usually i run either the arn180 or g36

[steep ridge]

civvie kaboomers dont explode unless you kill them

[faint gazelle]

na it was a mod, they did explode

[pallid idol]

it's really powerful

[faint gazelle]

and somewhy bomb vest radius was like few hecking rooms

[hidden rapids]

the granades from cs2, any movie since the invention off movies and war

[faint gazelle]

we all know LVAR is the goat

[hidden rapids]

lvar boring

the mk18 cooler

[faint gazelle]

nah lvar is actually amazing, it has little recoil, shoots so fast, has already mounted in supressor

[brittle swan]

meh not a big fan

[faint gazelle]

the other 2 best guns gotta be m14 one shooting anybody and ga51

[brittle swan]

suppressor stinky i want them to hear that theyre about to die

[faint gazelle]

well that too is amazing

[hidden rapids]

thats not a mounted supressor its internally suprresed

[faint gazelle]

bro i wish they'd allow us to play old verions of RON 💔 i miss the cartel chersyyear or something farm

[faint gazelle]

yea whatever i dont know the english term for that

Who remembers the pre-release 1.0 Hotel with 3 floors ?

[full shore]

That was a good map

[faint gazelle]

On god it was amazing

[full shore]

One of my favorites

[faint gazelle]

Yessir, or that shop on park homes was also a good addition

[hidden rapids]

I bought the game like 2 months ago 😭

[full shore]

The new hotel is nice too tho

[faint gazelle]

U missed OUT A LOT

1.0 ruined some maps very much , the cult farm now sucks, it was better when those cartel dudes were there shooting u with machine guns

[full shore]

December 2023 to February 2024 was the best

[faint gazelle]

pre-release era >>
old port hokan 💔

im js waiting for mods to be uploaded so i can again use a frag nade launcher

[full shore]

The first several weeks of 1.0 was the best in terms of gameplay

[faint gazelle]

well gameplay yes, but maps were better before 1.0

yet i was jumping like a little kid getting a gift on christmas when 1.0 released

[full shore]

I see why they changed it. Some of those old maps were too linear

[faint gazelle]

but they should allow us to play them on diff betas..

cuz why do you scrap such epic buildings and maps ...

i once tried to get access into old ron versions, the only i could get was a test of 1.0 💔

[hidden rapids]

why mk18 no have atacr

[faint gazelle]

I dont know

[hidden rapids]

It would be good for the navy seal look

[faint gazelle]

Yo twitchy, do u see an item called pc19, a handgun?

[hidden rapids]

I missed out on getting supporter edition

[faint gazelle]

oh, explains why i have it then, i didnt know at first it was it

until my friend who bought ron later than me, told me he doesnt have it

[hidden rapids]

custom glock 19

[digital beacon]

any advice for ironman? my record is doll house never got any further

[faint gazelle]

Yo look in ron media

[hidden rapids]

the mk1 the gpnvg skin the shield skin and allat are supporter editions things

https://ready-or-not.fandom.com/wiki/Supporter_Edition

[faint gazelle]

ironman is so fukyn hard

i havent played ironman since 2024 spring

[valid nebula]

I'm about to buy Ready or Not with my friends and I'm wondering does both people need to have the dlcs in order to play together or does only one person need to buy it?

[faint gazelle]

no, only one person

[valid nebula]

Oh thank you so much

[hidden rapids]

only one person needs dlc for mission

[valid nebula]

thank you!

[faint gazelle]

This is actually very good what devs did, not forcing whole squad to buy the dlc to have fun

[valid nebula]

yeah thats actually really nice of them

[faint gazelle]

Something other devs should take inspiration from..

Generally that would be lame as hell to force people to buy RON dlcs to play together because RON is so expensive 😭

Thankfully, the devs have a solid functioning brain and are kind people

[digital beacon]

still easier than Sleeper Agent hahaha

[brittle swan]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I DID IT FINALLY

[faint gazelle]

I'm planning to do sleeper agent

Is it possible to do sleeper agent by getting suspects o ntheir knees and putting them in a single place so then yo ucan arrest them ?

[hidden rapids]

RoN is expensive?Eft top tier is more than 300 bucks

[faint gazelle]

Or they need to be arrested instantly after getting on their knees

[digital beacon]

yeah i have seen this video on yt

70 minutes for 1 mission its crazy

[faint gazelle]

ait so i'll have no problem, i thought it's more complicated, thanks dude

[brittle swan]

i dont think so

[faint gazelle]

i mean ron price barely ever goes down, if it goes, it's still not that cheap , and u cant really find a key on like gg.deals

[digital beacon]

MarinerGnB on yt

[faint gazelle]

I mean pewpew seen a video so i trust him

[faint gazelle]

Thanks G imma watch it and see it out in a moment

[digital beacon]

roger

[hidden rapids]

its sure worth the price if rainbow 6 siege can be 14 bucks

[brittle swan]

i think they fixed that along with the part where you cant arrest suspects and put them in one place for oil rig achiev

[faint gazelle]

rainbow 6 siege cant compare itself to ron, ron is superior 😭

[hidden rapids]

r6 is really awfull rn

[faint gazelle]

whats the achievement

[faint gazelle]

modern black ops lobby

[brittle swan]

kill 2 active suspects over 30m away with headshot

[faint gazelle]

hm i dont see that achievement wait

[brittle swan]

big shell specialist

[faint gazelle]

oh yea

do you know pinky how to do The Hanged man 💀 ?

[hidden rapids]

chat what do we thik off bf:v

[faint gazelle]

-sigh-=

next ron dlc achievement: arrest a suspect through a wall while being shot at from behind

[digital beacon]

ez one

[limber sparrow]

ez pz

[hidden rapids]

next ron dlc: for 100 euros your now able too shoot anyone without repercusions

[digital beacon]

got it absolutly randomly, only one guy equiped a tasers with flashbangs and all of the team got it

[faint gazelle]

and how to do way out west, it's so hecking hcard i finished it 8 times with only magnum and still didnt get the achievement

[brittle swan]

instant buy

[brittle swan]

uh literally just grab revolver, have ai stand at spawn and kill everyone

[faint gazelle]

that stupid fella on yacht getting himself killed 1000 times in a row once such dlc releases for not surrendering

[brittle swan]

with extreme pain

[faint gazelle]

did that like 3 times out of 8 , nothing happened

[brittle swan]

i used heavy ceramic armor, tac shield to protect my back, 5 taser charges and 6 flashbangs

[digital beacon]

you should have absolutly nothing in youre inventory besides a magnum ammo, also no shield

[faint gazelle]

how the hell im supposed to not have a rifle in inv

[digital beacon]

no ammo for it

[faint gazelle]

done that too

guess gotta try again dawg , itsill have few achievements to overcome, the hardest ones

[digital beacon]

then you did something wrong i guess

[faint gazelle]

idk imma see when im done doing dark water achievements

[hidden rapids]

i despise ceramic plates

[digital beacon]

gl hf

[hidden rapids]

steel plates forever

[faint gazelle]

sigh, thanks

[hidden rapids]

kevlar just fine

[faint gazelle]

this 🫴

[hidden rapids]

ceramic wont save you from 40 dudes with aks

but steel can

[steep ridge]

not really

passive damage

[hidden rapids]

from my experience the only thing that protected me was the steel

[faint gazelle]

from my experience the only thing that protected me was magdumping

[hidden rapids]

magdumping dosent protect me because the enemies are better than me at getting the first hit

[faint gazelle]

this is why im using LVAR

honestly what void interactive thought of implementing raider handgun 😭

[hidden rapids]

what does that mean

[steep ridge]

flux raider is ass

[hidden rapids]

the p320 flux raider is a cool gun for like thank you come again

[steep ridge]

semi only? its a p320 on a brace

[hidden rapids]

the p320 wasnt made for select fire

[steep ridge]

cuz its a pistol

why is it in smg category

[smoky trench]

how long does a lockpick pistol lasts

[crude horizon]

You should get it!

[brittle swan]

im at 308 hours rn

[crude horizon]

I got 30

[amber dock]

There is no number, you can use it on as many doors as you want

[random obsidian]

Anyone got an idea of how to S valley

I am slowly going insane for a polo shirt but judge needs it please help

[steep ridge]

pretend every single hallway of every single room has 4 enemies inside it

replay over and over again until u get good RNG

thats how i Sed valley it only costed me 5 years due to stress and my mental stability

[random obsidian]

Nice

Judge will be happy now

[brittle swan]

it gets worse

[worldly ridge]

First completion of the oil rig map got me a B.
Went in with the MP5SD the first times, it didn't work out

7.62 NATO my beloved

[umbral oar]

they removed temu prone wth??

the crouch + alt + s is way higher now

[worldly ridge]

Yea it keeps bouncing the camera if you try

[brittle swan]

ngl all the smgs are kind of not that good against any map that has them have actual armor

[faint gazelle]

wWHY ARE THESE IDIOTS NOT MOVING WHEN TOLD TO ON 3 LETTER TRIAD

[brittle swan]

fr

[shy tulip]

They won't listen to you with that attitude

[faint gazelle]

me and my friends were trying to call these iditos for 20 minutes to MOVE and they just stood in place on their knees DOING NOTHINGG

[brittle swan]

apply 1 beanbag to head

[faint gazelle]

i did and they died 🌽

bro this is so annoying these stupid heads wont move and suddenly some of them are military tier armored dudes 😭

[hidden rapids]

-2340 points 12 cilled civies damn i fucked up

[faint gazelle]

me asf when i get killed once

gotta take my revenge for wasted time 😤 ✊

[hidden rapids]

i accidentaly killed my whole red team and blue was chasing me and i was taking em down with me

fucking hell these nades are hard too use

when they fix the m29 mod im gonna do a cowboy run

damn it i underestimate 15 meters

where the fuck did i get shot from and why no voiceline

relapse sucks because off the bombs like its alredy hard enough too fight 40 guys with aks now my time is limited??

[river tide]

you have 30 minutes to defuse them it’s not that bad

[hidden rapids]

i have them modded too blow up much sooner

[river tide]

then why are you complaining

[hidden rapids]

because 30 mins isnt a lot

i mean on my first run trough i couldnt do carriers in 30 mins

[brittle swan]

bro are you a turtle

[hidden rapids]

no i just got scared because off aks

7.62 hits like a fucking bomb

[brittle swan]

hit em first

[hidden rapids]

WHERE DID MY WHOLE TEAM JUST GET KILLED FROM

fucking someon get me a m2 browning machine gun

[umbral oar]

what's the other hidden achievement besides the elysium one

[hidden rapids]

nades are acctualy so good

[honest jacinth]

on multiplayer only the host can cancel arrest animation

[hidden rapids]

why cant i cancel arresf anims with ai

[tired jungle]

see yourself on the heli camera i think?

[honest jacinth]

yea

[hidden rapids]

nught lads

nevermind fuck

[terse umbra]

The fact that elephant is basically a guessing game lol sick level design/idea

(This is sarcasm)

The AI won’t even clear rooms if you literally tell them to clear a room 🤣

So thanks for the useless option?

At least in 6 days, their AI will clear rooms without instruction

[tired jungle]

Elephant isn't exactly a good map to play solo

[sharp folio]

im tryna get the ruined watch rn does anybody know if i send an officer to therapy if that ruins the run

like do i need the same roster the whole way through ironman mode or what are the rules

[tired jungle]

It does not

[sharp folio]

oh okay i just need to have all the same 6 officers from start to finish

[tired jungle]

As long as no officer dies or resigns

You should get the watch

[sharp folio]

dope thanks

[quaint raptor]

well. I got throuigh commander mode. NGL im not quiote sure i really have the patience to play this game seriously but im enjoying it nons the less

[brave lodge]

Lads, as I'm doing this single player and the AI are twats, can one restart the game if a mission goes sideways? Nothing especially bad has happened but stupid stuff like officers moving in front of me while im firing etc, id just prefer a clean run at the mission

[amber dock]

you can restart missions in Quick play and Multiplayer

[brave lodge]

Ah its ok I completed the mission all my guys were happy with how it went it just wasnt as clean as I would've liked. Happens sometimes.

[tired jungle]

Yeah it does

The AI can be difficult to work with

[delicate trench]

wsg

er @sharp folioI passed out on the bed since I ate so much

[digital beacon]

I think you can't get sleeper agent achiwment in coop, as a host was able to cancel restrain amimation so they drop they're pistol, and tied 17-19 people. It's just didn't worked

[split sandal]

What are all possible locations of the crystal storage in 213 Park homes?

[amber dock]

tunnel system and first house I think

[split sandal]

it aint in the fridge

[amber dock]

uhhh upstairs??? long time since I've played Twisted

[digital beacon]

Crystal lab or storage?

[split sandal]

the storage

[digital beacon]

Only one then

[split sandal]

So far, its not in the main house's fridge and i havent found it by going through the backdoor's building that has yellow markings and is concrete

[covert aurora]

1st door on the left in the back room 2nd floor

[digital beacon]

In a bathroom of the room with creepy guy in the television

[split sandal]

Main building?

[covert aurora]

Or that

[digital beacon]

Yes

[astral warren]

The best thing the AI is good for is blocking the player by standing in a door way like a dumb ass and getting them killed.

[split sandal]

How many soft objectives are in twisted nerve btw

[astral warren]

yes

[split sandal]

Ive done everything including all evidence and its still offering a soft complete

[astral warren]

Twisted nerve is quite prone to letting weapons fall out of the world.

Even after they reduced how often it happens, the floors on that map seem less corporeal than on others, for one reason or another.

[split sandal]

What about the Find Incapacitated Minor?

I think im missing that

[short matrix]

well well well for "Sleeper Agent" achievement... arresting, grouping and executing them all didn't work. 😢

[covert aurora]

Theres two soft objectives on the 2nd floor main house first door left side backroom on the shelf and first door right side. Theres the minot 2nd door on the right same floor

[covert aurora]

Hopefully your not missing a weapon

[astral warren]

it's the bedroom adjacent to the money storage room.

[covert aurora]

^

[astral warren]

she's flailing about on a mattress, pretty difficult to miss, also the only thing in the game you're not allowed to shoot because muh ao rating

actually wait I think the human trafficking victims also have a low ready force field for them

but yeah if your gun just starts pointing down for no reason you're looking right at her

did they fix being able to shoot crystal leighton, even though nothing happened to her when you were allowed to?

[covert aurora]

Crystal on gas is the samething

That i think is fixed.

[astral warren]

Oh okay.

[covert aurora]

Not 100% sure, not at home atm so i cant check

[split sandal]

Oh my lord, eli is stuck on securing a AKS, is this bugged?

[astral warren]

I remember in an early build just noticing the game not making me lower my gun when pointing it at a minor, and I was like, "surely the developers won't let me give their game an AO rating, right?" and they didn't, but it was amusing to drill a toddler in the face with a self loading shotgun and have them just tank it like a T-800

[split sandal]

the hud is saying he's securing it but i dont see the gun hightlighting

[astral warren]

If they think they can reach it but they can't they'll get stuck, in my experience.

[covert aurora]

Try cancling the order then redo search and secure

[split sandal]

Still the same thing

[astral warren]

fire eli

[covert aurora]

Damn

[split sandal]

NVM YES YES

got the s tier

[covert aurora]

Alright!!

Congratulations!

[split sandal]

Do you also know where the Secure Weapons Shipment soft objective is at for Greased Palms?

[covert aurora]

Yes, its on the outside in the back in a truck

[delicate trench]

🗿 i hate greased palms

[covert aurora]

Same

[delicate trench]

took me like 3 tries to get S tier

[covert aurora]

Not a fan of it

[delicate trench]

Took me an extra 30 minutes to find the last civilian cause the AI apparently just never restrained her??

even though we cleared that same room 3 times over

im like 10 levels in medal of valor of S tier

[shy tulip]

Only 3 tries?

[delicate trench]

Yep

[shy tulip]

Some people on this discord would like to skin you

[delicate trench]

Idk, I my team load out consist of 2 Pepper Guns, 3 Shotguns including me, all rocking 4 CS Gas nades, 1 C4, 2 Gas Grenade Launcers, 1 Ram and 1 Shotgun breacher. I carry like 7 Gas Grenades

I just saved all my gas nades when clearing the largest indoor section and throw gas every direction

idk I just did it on the 3rd run

and pray that my 2 intimidators can make all em surrender in time 💀

[boreal fossil]

why was one of my game clips in #🎬ron-clips-and-media deleted

😭

[umbral oar]

did you shoot a civ

[boreal fossil]

maybe

[covert aurora]

For moderational questions dm toc

[ebon marlin]

Does the MLO have a standard weapon? or does whatever available fit their schtick of revolt/establishment?

[covert aurora]

Thats... actually a hard question to answer as we know very little on them

[shy tulip]

MLO as we know it in-game was the pvp faction, so they didn't have a standard really.

[covert aurora]

^

[calm jacinth]

they are probably using anything they could get, it makes more sense anyway

[shy tulip]

Only thing I could add is that weapons like the G3 and M14 were from the PVP era, so that's the closest you could get tbh

[lime stone]

AK type weapons, going by the evidence_m.l.o video

[covert aurora]

From the wiki. M14,m4,ak variants

G18s, makarovs, tec9s

Yeah its whatever they can get

[faint gazelle]

@shut canyon funny is about the yacht map, i twice killed sah'ids entire crew and he didnt bother to order the mass murder 😭 he js chilled around the yacht

[full blown war was on going at the yacht]

[shut canyon]

man i misread that, I thought it meant before being given the order to shoot a civilian in order to get him alive 😭

thought some dark shit went down

alr time to do the oil rig mission

[faint gazelle]

@wooden haven im talking about that theres 82 suspects, and a suspect is either hostile armed with a knife or with a gun, so over 20 suspects are walking around with fists only 😭 ❓

[faint gazelle]

nah he gives out some funny order that i never heard him giving out

[shut canyon]

shiiiit lmao I didnt think that at first

[timber nimbus]

hi guys can someone help me with your connection to the host has been lost

[sharp herald]

anyone else have an issue where you cant change the appearance of your gas mask and all but 6 helmets are missing? i cant find the SWAT '99 anymore

[jolly verge]

Remove your outdated cosmetic unlocker

[stone bay]

i havent touched ron in a month, is the new expansion good?

[sharp herald]

i did

[lime stone]

It's bloody brilliant

[stone bay]

i might cop it next week

[lime stone]

Enjoy fam

[cunning fulcrum]

Why does the 416 have Noctua colors 😭

[wooden haven]

no they're armed. very heavily. I don't generally bother to secure weapons or suspects

[golden trellis]

anyone find any good uniforms and customizable stuff on nexus

for dlc2

[umbral oar]

how the frak do you do big sheel specialist

[grim forge]

What am I doing wrong here: I put my AI team on doors/doorways with delayed order to use M320 launcher and clear there room/area. I make sure the door is not locker or there is no wedge currently. Often the team just waits when I order to "execute". Not sure how to progress their orders at that point without cancelling the key action, which often is timed with the other team and with my self. Ideas? Do I need to point to specific direction or something? It doesn't seem to matter if I order the "execute" as Red, Blue or Gold.

[neon lichen]

When PvP gonna be?

[lost inlet]

Not soon

[neon lichen]

And game need lil speed up even swat 4 is faster then this.

[grim forge]

I have to agree on some part. If I watch police videos of swat guys in full gear, they can cover 10 yards in way less time. Also, where is the duck and cover button, you don't even need training to know if you're being shot at to speedily dive to cover...

[rich quartz]

Does the hospital map have a bomb timer?

[grim forge]

I've been told it's 30min

[rich quartz]

Really? How long for the school one

[jolly verge]

10m

[grim forge]

You should get like warning to pewpew it few minutes before.

[rich quartz]

Oh Okie

[grim forge]

The *school map is one of the most fun S tier maps of them all. You kinda know in 3mins if you make it or not. The opposite is you go trough parts of the map with care and then 30+ minutes in you get to a critical point and whoopsie... Bummer that's most maps.

[hushed rivet]

Ends of the earth is also a S tier map

[tacit raven]

is there any other way to find servers other then continuoally clicking on find public game and getting "connection lost to host" immediately?

[hushed rivet]

beyond me mate

[grim forge]

There's a weird function in a game I'd need to disable but can't find a setting. Namely: I order Red team to stack up on a door, Blue team to follow me. I'm assuming my orders are to Blue team until I change it but if I happen to crosshair across the door the Red team is covering the game changes it. That is screwing up my game a LOT. How to disable it?

[hybrid stream]

Love dying because the helicopter decides to blind me and throw the spotlight on me while I'm using night vision.

[eager walrus]

Depends on the people really you might get chill people or you'll get the most nolife twats that will harrass and abuse you endlessly for not knowing every aspect of the game

Oh or you might get a religious nut afk in the lobby blasting cult propaganda

Void endorses that behaviour

[urban shuttle]

i dunno if you still communicate through game chat or like any other form they're probs chill with it

im chill with no mics idrc

no problem

some people can be a bit shitty if you have no mic tho just be prepared i guess

[light stag]

What was the clothes given in home invasion update based on?

[nova shore]

Hey everyone, is there any « criminal boss » in the lore of Ready or not ?

Or maybe one of the best-known?

[light stag]

I guess the well known one is amos voll and his ceepee scheme?

[nova shore]

Ok, and by chance do you know if there is a investigation in the detective office ?

(with pictures etc)

[dense patrol]

Ok I highly believe that they should add balaclavas back, at least in glasses/eyes cosmetics

[light stag]

I think so, but some areas are just completely blocked off by npcs

[stone stump]

can't do. devs struggle with making anything that would fit any face model

[nova shore]

Thats not a problem I have the camera mod, thank you

[light stag]

Aight

[dense patrol]

There are some balaclavas in game but only accessible in Multiplayer sadly.

[tacit gull]

We barely just got judge's head not clipping through helmets

[maiden charm]

is there an ai mod that fixes teh bugs with the rescue civs objective

i thought this game was finally polished after like years

[dense patrol]

Yet they can make a balaclava version of all characters

[stone stump]

yes, because the character has a balaclava specifically

[light stag]

Clearly the game is not ready (or not) yet

[dense patrol]

I know, but they could make for everyone and add an actual option if you want to use a balaclava or not

[tacit gull]

no

it is better though

[light stag]

Do y'all think they should make the customization of guns similar to tarkovs gun customization

[stone stump]

obviously not

[tacit gull]

No

[maiden charm]

yet they can pump out dlcs for extra money.. great game

[light stag]

Y tho

Just curious

[maiden charm]

this bug has been a thing since early access lmao

[dense patrol]

Never played tarkov but I'm going to assume no.

[stone stump]

leave tarkov bullshit to tarkov

[tacit gull]

It really doesn't need to be that complicated

it's a lot of work, it's gonna run like shit and most likely be extremely buggy

plus it doesn't really add anything to policing

[stone stump]

too much complexity, so probably not going to happen, ever, unless they finally manage to make the clothes universal

[light stag]

I just kinda wished we could do stuff like change it's barrel length or the color of the guns

[maiden charm]

search and secure still doesnt work as always

[lean pollen]

is dlss making a visual glitches already known issue?

[dense patrol]

It shouldn't be that hard to create a balaclava

[tacit gull]

I think it's been an issue for a while yeah

[light stag]

I remember the civilians would run to your team when all suspects were cleared before 1.0

[stone stump]

they would have to double the amount of character models in the game just to have a balaclava in them, all that just to not see the balaclava yourself anyway

[lean pollen]

i got light leaking on edge of my screen

[tacit gull]

the sun is leaking

[light stag]

The sun is leaking

[lean pollen]

using dlaa is fine but not dlss

[maiden charm]

i think that happens even without dlss cause of how terrible the taa implementation is in this game

[dense patrol]

I'm not asking to make more characters they should add an option below the outfit thing that if you want to wear a balaclava or not

[light stag]

Does anyone else remember this pre 1.0 map that looks like a fast food restaurant of sorts

[lean pollen]

no, there was no issue with dlss before it just after i got dark water update dlss got broken for no reason

[tacit gull]

And he's telling you that's not how that works

[dense patrol]

Balaclava: Yes/No

[nova shore]

yes

[stone stump]

they can't do that. it's technically impossible for them to do that at this point in time

the balaclava would clip, as in nose sticking out and so on

[nova shore]

Was small but I remember they extended it before remove it

[light stag]

Yeah

[maiden charm]

you can probably switch out the dlss dll and that might work

[light stag]

I also remember some legacy map that resembled a hotel or apartment of sorts

[tacit gull]

If they add a system that stretches clothes according to what's on you then yeah, that balaclava is gonna be possible

but otherwise it's not gonna happen

[nova shore]

something like the actual hotel map ?

[tacit gull]

there's already enough clipping in the game as is

[light stag]

No, its like some map where the rooms are connected somehow and theres even a balcony

[dense patrol]

I wouldn't be complaining at all if I could select my character in solitary modes, bc I'd choose the one with Balaclava and same to my other officers.

[light stag]

Its like ideas of march but the character models are swapped to various suspects you see in the game

And again it's untextured

[tacit gull]

hotel rooms

[light stag]

Yes

[tacit gull]

It was a test map, not supposed to be in the game

[stone stump]

...but they don't have to necessarily double the amount of character models to have balaclavas for everyone (the way they glued it to a character model right now), just a separate balaclava for every character as they could make it an accessory instead

[light stag]

Aw

[stone stump]

neither of those will probably happen obviously

[lean pollen]

already tried
https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1319983568159772693

[dense patrol]

I could wait until they manage to do that

[lean pollen]

theres no issue with turning on dlss before

[tacit gull]

whenever that is

[light stag]

Just use mods for now lol

[nova shore]

Talking about old maps, do you remember the industrial map ? before 1.0 I think

[stone stump]

at least 5 years

[light stag]

Port hokan?

[tacit gull]

the lack of balaclava doesn't really make the game unplayable though, just go into multiplayer where other people can see you if you wanna larp

[nova shore]

No, the map was present when you were still choosing on the screen and it was in the bottom right-hand corner

[light stag]

Hmmm

I have very faint memory of that map

[nova shore]

The thumbnail was a pile of blue barrel if I remember correctly

Maybe an old version of port hokan idk

[light stag]

I started playing in 2022, the closest i can remember to an industrial map is pre 1.0 port hokan

[nova shore]

you’re right this was an old version

[light stag]

Do you guys think they should bring back the milkor MGL to the tools

[nova shore]

the what ?

[light stag]

The one you can equip in the primary in pre 1.0

[light stag]

The pre 1.0 6 shot grenade launcher that only shoots flashbang roinds

[nova shore]

Ooh

[light stag]

Yeah, that one

[nova shore]

Well, we have the m320 launcher who’s doing the same job

[light stag]

True but they should bring it back cause why not lol

Give it to the AI that only carries 1 or 2 rounds for some reason

[nova shore]

Modders did but now its not only flashbang 😂

[light stag]

Someone did make it shoot explosive rounds lol

At least before dark waters dlc it did

[nova shore]

Yeah, does every weapon mods are obsolete due to the dlc ?

[stone stump]

they can't be obsolete

[nova shore]

so I can use them ?

[stone stump]

no, they're outdated

which doesn't necessarily mean they're obsolete

[nova shore]

Ok 👍

[light stag]

The no cracked AI mod makes the AI so dumbed down it kinda ruins the fun ngl

[muted mountain]

thats why im not using it. but arent there more difficulties?

[loud whale]

Ok, what the hell happened to Elephant and why is it suddenly impossible to go 30 feet without the suspects already executing hostages

[light stag]

There are

[loud whale]

Unless I'm being dumb and you can still complete Elephant on Commander while failing an objective

[nova shore]

late arrivals are not accepted at school i guess

[dense girder]

Alright, I am starting to get mildly annoyed, I came here to ask what I'm doing wrong, currently trying to A+ or S rank "A Lethal Obsession", I am only getting A rank even tho I clear everything each time.

I'm a bit confused too, to what counts towards S rank

[frank yew]

S rank has to be totally non lethal

Nobody can die, get all the evidence

[grim forge]

So I got HIDE AND SEEK S tier completed, other then the drugs. I've searched the container for all over but cannot find it. Any hints?

[dense girder]

non lethal? Does Incapacitated count as lethal?

[frank yew]

You can’t use a real gun

[dense girder]

oh dang

[frank yew]

And if you smoke someone in the face with a beanbag it will count as lethal or whatever

[dense girder]

and why do I only get A rank here? what counts towards A+? All other missions I can easily finish on A+ without a big care in the world, but this mission in specific just won't give me A+

[grim forge]

If one gets down laying on the floor for what ever reason it's not an S tier.

[frank yew]

I believe it has something to do with how many people die

Are you getting all the soft objectives ?

[dense girder]

I swear to god, not a SINGLE enemy had the skull symbol. I even checked for that, only incapacitated.

[dense girder]

how many are there on Lethal Obsession?

[frank yew]

Yeah you need to get them to surrender

I think there’s two, both on the middle floor

Maybe I’m missing something with the A+ part idk

[dense girder]

two? I think I only found one, which is the documents. so it appears I did maybe miss one?

[frank yew]

Yeah it’s like two piles of documents I think

[tacit gull]

Incapacitated does not count

You need to take everyone standing

[stone bay]

Yo can anyone help me get the alternative american voice over applied in my voice over file without getting conflict with the original judge voice over?

[dense girder]

with S rank, yeah?

[stone bay]

Im new and i need help getting this done please

[dense girder]

guess I am going back in. so annoying, I always triple check rooms, missing smth like this and redoing an entire mission bc you missed a single thing is, meh.

[river thistle]

what do i do after i completed all the missions in single player?

[frank yew]

I mean that’s the whole point of the ranking ya know, that and replay ability

[frank yew]

Replay them lol

[dense girder]

I like to replay missions, but idk, I really don't like A Lethal Obsession that much. and I'd be a bit more content to replay missions if I fumbled hard, like, a B or C rank, but replaying it, just bc you maybe missed A SINGLE loose evidence is, yeah, not the biggest motivator

[pseudo grail]

Basically if you wanna do a S missions you need to get all the enemy to surrender and handcuffs them (also secure their weapon). Same goes for the civilian, if one is killed or incapacitated by you or an enemy and is laying down on the floor you have to restart. Btw if you play with teammates it doesn’t matter if they die or not as long as you report their body ( no need to secure their weapon it doesn’t give any point). Obviously you gotta get the soft obj and just so you know the mission will complete itself after everything is secured, so no need to hit page up. If the mission doesn’t complete itself it means you missed something :).
Hope my explication helped.

[frank yew]

Man that’s the opposite for me, my biggest t motivation is if I miss something

[dense girder]

Thank you very much!

[dense girder]

same for me! But as I said, it is the case if the run was a big fumble, aka missed a lot. But replaying a mission where I triple checked each and every room but still missed a single thing keeping me away from that juicy perfect score, is a mild nuisance

[haughty bone]

hi

[bitter mason]

Incaps and kills give you the same score fsr

[dense girder]

fr? dang.

[bitter mason]

Yep only reason for Incaps rn seems to be for arresting specific suspect objectives
But not arrest x number of suspect ones

[tacit gull]

That really annoys me for some reason, maybe it should specify arrest x number of suspects standing or something

feels inconsistent

[river thistle]

dude, the lethal obsession mission was crazy

they literally had a board on how to kill swat personell

[bitter mason]

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the arrest x number of suspect objectives anyways. It always seems to be on maps with the most aggressive suspects
They need to give you more points for incaps and let incaps count towards that objective

[dense girder]

lore wise, maybe, but I just don't vibe with it really.

[bitter mason]

And they also need to make it so suspects can fake an incap rather than only fake death

[dense girder]

Incapacitated does not equal dead, I am fully on your side with that statement

[bitter mason]

I believe incapped civs doesn't fail the rescue all civilians objectives also
But most of the time if a suspect shoots them they straight up die

[tacit gull]

Now that suspects can actually surrender (minus the fucking stress mechanic) i'm fine with it

If you don't go executing everyone one sight those objectives do themselves

[bitter mason]

Yeah definitely happy to get more compliance though it feels more they're being forced by the new hesitate animation rather than "making the decision" themselves

[tacit gull]

that's also kinda true but if you don't think about it it just plays better

[bitter mason]

Super advanced complex suspect decision making that hardly works

[tacit gull]

I've also had them surrender without the animation weirdly enough

[bitter mason]

I think I've had it happen once

[tacit gull]

they do the funny gun flip

someone should make a mod that adds the tony hawk score counter when that happens

[bitter mason]

Pfft

It can feel pretty inconsistent still I think purely because of the stress mechnic I managed to s spider (with gunfighter mod and lots of taser shots) without using primary less lethals and it actually felt more like swat 4 than before
But then other maps it was just instant gunfights and stress system snowballing

Went on gas, breached the first room two suspects got shot then the rest just rushed in and also died and the map was cleared in the first room. So it's definitely not perfect still lol

[tacit gull]

Yeah, if a suspect just decides to be aggressive at the start you can go fuck yourself lmao

it feels so stupid

the compliance of suspects being dictated by 1 suspect RNG rather than the actual suspect parameters

[bitter mason]

Still waiting for suspects to run away without firing a shot first tho
Still feels like their choices are shoot or rarely hesitate a surrender

[tacit gull]

I've actually had them do that a lot

even on super hostile maps

[bitter mason]

Wack if they ever run they usually first unload their weapons

Or have no weapons to shoot at me with

[tacit gull]

nah like straight up back turned running

i got an unauthorised use of force out of it on meth

[bitter mason]

Woah that's advanced ai that

[tacit gull]

since a balaclava guy ran and hid behind a door and scared the shit out of me

[bitter mason]

Wish I ever had that happen
Maybe it's a problem with rarity
I imagine it's more common for suspects to go aggressive than anything else

[tacit gull]

with this update i've had more of the opposite really

ides has a ton of veterans surrendering due to the hesitation

[bitter mason]

Every copy is personalised moment

[tacit gull]

it's always either half the level hesitates or you murder everyone

no in-between

[bitter mason]

Yeah still needs work

And removing the stress system or rework it in a way

Does suspect stress even go down at all?

[tacit gull]

the standoffs in big rooms with lots of suspects though feel great

[tacit gull]

no idea, maybe after arrests or something?

The worst part about stress i feel is that it's not explained ANYWHERE

[bitter mason]

I'd expect it to maybe have a decay factor where keeping quiet makes it go down but I doubt it

[tacit gull]

who the fuck would think that responding to a threat properly would make everyone on the map more aggressive

[bitter mason]

One thing I'd love to do is just constantly shift tactics, going loud in one room then going quiet while moving through the rest of the level

I'd be fine with stress kinda staying high if you go through every door with a breach, so slowing down at times sort of manages a suspects stress
But I feel suspects for whatever reason choose violence when stressed too often.

[tacit gull]

it lowers the chance for hesitation yeah

[bitter mason]

Like I'm pretty sure it's only meant to speed up their decision making and reduce hesitations but it honestly just feels more like it makes them more aggressive

[tacit gull]

at max stress they just raise their weapons and unload the second they see you

that's why hospital sucks so hard, since suspects start out at that value

[bitter mason]

BRUH

I still hate how some suspects just get stuck raising their weapons

[tacit gull]

I mean it makes sense if they're holding ambushes

[bitter mason]

It's 100% the cause of lighting quick suspect reactions if you still come across it.

[bitter mason]

If holding ambushes yeah but not when wandering aimlessly around a room

They should only point their guns like that if they are camping a door or corner or actively in a gunfight with you

[tacit gull]

yeah, if you've had that happen then suspects are just max stressed and there's nothing you can do about it

[bitter mason]

When they are no longer in combat or holding an angle they should go to their weapon lowered but ready state I feel

[bitter mason]

Super lame

[tacit gull]

I feel like maybe shouting should lower stress

since it shows you're willing to take them in alive

[bitter mason]

Maybe idk

I'd say shouting shouldn't really stack any stress if it does add any

[tacit gull]

it does lmao

[tacit gull]

spamming shout can have the entire level ready to gun you down

[bitter mason]

I think the game could do with swat 4s morale calculations because f spamming blows

Civvies I think are pretty overlooked in their behaviours cause their ai also sucks lol

[tacit gull]

compliance in general can use a lot of tweaks

civvies are actually better this update

[bitter mason]

It has been a problem since early access where civvies won't comply until you get a lil bit closer to them

[tacit gull]

they can actually move

[bitter mason]

Yeah that's good but they just feel so jank

[tacit gull]

that's because of the epic feature where getting closer to someone makes them more compliant (for some reason)

[bitter mason]

You yell get down 10 times and each time they tell you to fuck off then you get a bit closer and they start begging you for help

[tacit gull]

Yeah i feel like the voicelines should predict what they're gonna do sometimes

it can also be used to bait you by suspects

[bitter mason]

Yeah it's the same with the suspects

[tacit gull]

like suspects demeanour being peaceful but then they fucking shoot you

[bitter mason]

Most bait they get is very genuine "don't shoot" voice lines on like ends of the earth as they are shooting you and just comes off as janky

At most they say don't shoot during a hesitate animation and then pull their gun

[tacit gull]

that's intentional since they're secret agents and they know you're coming

[bitter mason]

But they just use the same non compliance voice lines when hesitating so they could be yelling how they're not going to jail and would rather die while slowly dropping their gun

[tacit gull]

lmao yeah

that shit is bad, if only this system was implemented ON TIME before the VOICE LINES were done

[bitter mason]

Seems compliance yells just trigger anyone in the area with noncompliance lines even if they aren't even getting a compliance check

[tacit gull]

this is exactly the issue with adding features later and shoving the game out now

[bitter mason]

Yeah lol

[tacit gull]

cause if you go back to old content made on old mechanics it doesn't hold up

[bitter mason]

It's funny watching replays and seeing suspects yell defiantly across the map where you can't even hear your character

[steep ridge]

spec ops the line is the best game ever

your telling me i get to kill civilians and it doesnt send me back to the last checkpoint cuz i 'cant kill unarmed combatants?'

peak ops the line forces you to kill civilians then encourages you to kill civilians in different parts of the game

[river thistle]

yall, i need help my entire team is either in crisis or stressed and therapy is full, i also have no other guys avalible, what do i do?

[steep ridge]

fire them and replace them

[river thistle]

okay, thanks

[gloomy eagle]

What's a good loadout for elephant?

[bitter mason]

Probably flashes and stingers
Weapons honestly just use whatever you want
You just gotta clear quick on that level so maybe take light ceramic

[eager walrus]

Take light armour so you can move at 20 metres per minute instead of the 19.5 you move with heavy armour

[bitter mason]

Yeah lol

Though armour only affects acceleration not max speed

[eager walrus]

Oh even better lmao

[bitter mason]

Biggest difference is steel but ceramic is just superior to all

[wraith basin]

Take those stressed teammates with you on Gas Station mission with fully non lethal gear and finish the mission, like that.

[river thistle]

can i change their loadout aswell? they are quite eager to press the trigger

[wraith basin]

You can change your teammates whole loadout, yes.

[gusty pulsar]

anyone else having problems joining public games?

it just says "game already in progress", "lost connection to host", or "cheksum bla bla bla" every time

[gloomy eagle]

What the hell is Ironman mode

Like more hp?

Or?

[prime wing]

No

If you die

You died

Save file deleted

[blissful harness]

Just finished Sins of the Father S rank. Not gonna lie, doesn't like the tattoo much.

But I didn't spend too much effort S ranking it, so I don't really feel disappointed.

[gloomy eagle]

OH MY GOD BRO 😭 I turned it on thinking it was like easy mode, and I died on the 4th mission 😭😭💀

Im playing solo multi-player

[shut anvil]

its the opposite

[ocean olive]

is the mission "a lethal obsession" easy, when you do it non lethal, with ai?

or would you guys do it lethal

[prime wing]

Non lethal is the intended way

[gloomy eagle]

Imma be the collage shooter now

[gusty pulsar]

the ai team gets easier to work with once you have muscle memory for the options, and learn some of their quirks. Its possible to get S rating on every mission using non lethal with AI team without too much trouble

[ocean olive]

i just finished it non lethal didnt know it was only 3 suspects lol unfortunately 2 of them had gas masks so my gas was ineffective

[gusty pulsar]

they dont always behave the way you want to, but at least you can learn to predict the way they mess up and try to work around it lol

[gloomy eagle]

I just got a big fat F

I managed to get killed 💀

Nvm imma grind campain

[loud whale]

where TF are the bombs on Elephant? I swear they used to be so easy to find

[ionic fiber]

so for some reason I dont have a HUD during multiplayer?
does anyone know why I'm having this problem?

[loud whale]

Nvm finally got them

[cedar jungle]

.

[ocean olive]

oh man i have to do idles of march now

i failled it on lethal with others so i dont think its going to end all that well

[ocean olive]

why is it that when i do quick play, i dont have every map unlocked?

[cursive minnow]

You have to progress to unlock them just like commander mode, only multiplayer has all missions unlocked.

[ocean olive]

oh okay thanks

[gusty pulsar]

don't forget to bring wedges, they are a game changer, and in really rough areas you can always individually order red and blue to hold and cover specific positions and directions

for doing something like bounding

[ocean olive]

ive been trying that the whole time, im going lethal bc non lethal is just too difficult tbh

[steep ridge]

its easy as fuck either way

only 3 suspects, 0 civilians, 1 soft objective

[gloomy eagle]

I just got to collage mission 🎄🍉

[plush tusk]

im stuck on that one right now for my S rank run. They keep killing hostages before i can find them all

And im practically sprinting through the classrooms searching

[shadow ether]

Today was the first time I saw a suspect take a hostage, Brixley just grabbed a girl
And then executed her right away

I am just wondering, if they are already holding a gun to the hostage's head, will perforating their face without asking count as "unauthorized use of deadly force"?

Also, on the subject of new animations, I really don't like how there's now a "middle state" when the suspect already got rid of the gun, but they're standing with their hands up and being uncooperative. At the very least I'd think they could be ordered to walk forward slowly

[plush tusk]

involuntary ventilation fits within ROE when it comes to hostage situations. However, its safer for the hostage if you flashbang

[shadow ether]

I only have stingers

Oh well, that's something for the future to consider anyway, since Brixley had no chill and shot the hostage pretty much immediately

[ornate lintel]

e

[cursive minnow]

Idk about that in almost every case where a nade was thrown to save a hostage in my gameplay the hostage almost always ended up dead for me so I've stuck to just going for that headshot.

[granite spire]

If anyone is interested in milsim dm me

[worldly ridge]

I give up with the AI, they refuse to follow my orders

Surrendered suspects in the room

Secure the area
Roger that!
they just stand still until the suspects get back up

I hate how random their reliablity is.

[worldly ridge]

That's fine too. It fits ROE. I usually just shoot the suspects in the head. You can take your time, their aim is trash when holding a hostage

[shadow ether]

I should convince our team to try flashbang-heavy loadouts instead of gas-heavy, but that means losing the absolute drip of SAS gas masks and I don't think they'd accept that

[worldly ridge]

Just use gas masks with flashbangs I do that sometimes

But with stingers. Flashes are worse in my experience

[shadow ether]

That might actually work, do flashes work for any distance within line of sight, or is there an effective radius?

[worldly ridge]

There should be an effective radius.

But also, just don't throw it in your own LoS I guess

[shadow ether]

Problem is, we're bringing nade launchers too, and they go off on impact
We are definitely blinding ourselves with that

[worldly ridge]

Stinger launcher?

[shadow ether]

Also, is there a mod to replace the grenade launcher with any other single-shot grenade launcher that isn't an underbarrel attachment just hauled around with a stock?

[worldly ridge]

Or use gas in the launcher

That would be fun to try. Stringer/Flash nades for grenades and a gas launcher for longer range AoE duration stun

Gas launcher also doesn't go off on impact, so you can bank it off surfaces

[shadow ether]

Do y'all think it would be a worthwhile idea to get an actual high precision bolt action sniper rifle for a long tac? The way I've been using the new long 7,62 rifles, I found out that I don't spend even half a magazine of them, but go through quite a few mags of 5,7
It could be a rifle with like 10 rounds in total. 5 in it, and 5 spares. But sometimes you really want that high precision shot

[worldly ridge]

No. It would be a total waste of a weapon slot. Bolt actions are IMO obsolote, especially in law enforment, but even if we get one, I'd rather it be a sniper I can control using the tablet like SWAT4

[shadow ether]

There are many other wastes of the long tac slot tbh

Anyone ever uses the breaching shotgun? 🤔

[worldly ridge]

HK416 comes to mind

I do. It's fun shooting off the lock and again to completely open the door from a safer distance

[shadow ether]

Do you also use the battering ram?

[worldly ridge]

Yes sometimes on AI when I want a fast solution

Most of the time I use C2 for the morale decrease and potential knockdown effect

[shadow ether]

I mean, fair
But I keep feeling like I have this option I am not using (because I can kick the door down or C2 it), and also I feel like I'm not having a tactical option I would like to have without sacrificing my primary.

But hey, thanks VOID, at least now I have an option for long range shots

[worldly ridge]

Kicking the door is a meme quite often. (7+ kicks anyone?)
Battering ram offer the instant open effect you'd expect from a kick, but without the RNG.
The breaching shotgun offers an opening effect (and door destruction if you want) from a safer distance in case the doorway is dodgy and you don't want to risk it.
These are all the long tactial slot options, which does not interfere with other options, like C2, Wedges, Pepper spray, Taser

[shadow ether]

I am also not kicking that many doors in general, I unlock them and toss a nade in if I need an effect

[worldly ridge]

Sometimes I try kicking doors for the fun of it (most of the time I already have my team on the other side, so it's safe) and I had situations where I needed like 7 kicks, if not more

[shadow ether]

Am I missing out?

[worldly ridge]

I mean, I don't use the opti-wand, so there's no reason to NOT take either the Ram or the Shotgun. I relegate the shield to my AI if I use them most of the time.

[shadow ether]

You don't? Like, ever?

[worldly ridge]

Nope. I used the Opti-Wand back in SWAT4, that was enough. I prefer the gameplay of quickly reacting to what's on the other side of my breaches

[shadow ether]

I dunno if I can convince my team to play like that

[worldly ridge]

That entirely depends on what they find fun. I find fun in going into the unknown and trusing my skill and reaction time.

I recommend trying it out on a map you've played often enough to know what to expect, it might be a fun experiment.

[shadow ether]

They don't have good reaction time, that's the biggest problem

(And mine is the worst of them all)

[worldly ridge]

Yea I guess that can be an issue? I don't really know.
All I know is that all of my death would've happened anyway, regardless of opti-wand.

If I play serious, I set up my team and breach + nade, which solves anyone standing in front of the door. Anybody else, I can react to in time.

[shadow ether]

Off topic; there shall be a mod that adds the helicopter support to Narcos. Literally the perfect map for it.

It's very flat, it has lots of open space, and watching the helicopter feed would actually be useful between clearing houses

[worldly ridge]

until you get lit up from a random window and your AI teammates keep yelling at them to surrender instead of shooting back at the guy magdumping you

Ask me how I know

[shadow ether]

Let's not talk about AI teammates

[worldly ridge]

Those are the only teammates I have

[shadow ether]

In a year of playing RoN I interacted with AI teammates exactly twice and I am a happier person for it

Feels like it's an entirely different game in singleplayer

[worldly ridge]

I really just want two thing out of AI teammates

when I order them to do something, and they confirm it (even their little status indicator shows it) it actually goes through
they actually shoot back at targets magdumping us

[shadow ether]

Status indicator?

[worldly ridge]

I had a situation where I ran out of both primary and secondary ammo in a firefight, so the newly arriving suspect caught me mid-reload.
It's fine, I have my AI teammates all ready.
I tank 10 or so rounds, while the AI just keeps yelling at the enemy to surrender while it's magdumping my bodyarmor

[worldly ridge]

Lower right corner. Every teammate has an indicator of their health. AI teammates (IDK about multiplayer) has a "current action being executed" indicator.
Deploying C2, Using breaching shotgun, arresting, securing evidence, etc

[shadow ether]

Damn. Singleplayer RoN just sounds like an overall awful experience

[worldly ridge]

It can be really fun, but you need to know when and how to deploy the friendly AI.
They can get a LOT of shit done that would've fucked you up

[elder nova]

I put a hole dead center of someone's chest with a 7.62x51 round out of a battle rifle.
I don't think they're incapacitated. But chest shots aren't considered lethal in this tactical shooter so close enough-

[shadow ether]

It could be survivable

[worldly ridge]

Body armor means they're surviving the chest shot.
And in my experience, even some unarmored targets survive. Which, it realistic. It takes them out of the fight. You don't just immediately die because your kidney got shot

[elder nova]

I shot them in the heart, and when I saw the body, it was a big red hole where the heart was.
Body armor might've helped, I need to do more research on what it takes to pen
But that wasn't a kidney shot. That was dead-center in the most vital spot on the body
They'll bleed out before trailers ever show up

[shadow ether]

It's not going to be very good for them, they are very much at risk of drowning in lung blood or look at one of their lungs being removed, but there are lucky chest shots that can be lived through, and the target could live but it doesn't mean they'll live happy ever after

[worldly ridge]

Body armor depends on the grade. Higher grade armor is rated for 30-06 AP, so FMJ 7.62x51 has no chance.
But that's irrelevant if you've seen a red hole obviously.
But even heart shots can take 10-15 seconds to bleed you out. Guy might've turned dead if you wait

[elder nova]

Yeah if they live that's a cracked sternum. I wouldn't want to wake up with that.

[elder nova]

that used to be the case but it's happened a lot less after the Dark Waters update

[worldly ridge]

Incapacitated people can bleed out, and I've had it happen

Agreed, less so in the new update, but IMO the new update is quite jank when it comes to NPC behaviour

[winter pendant]

i finally got sleeper agent

[shadow ether]

Wait what

What did I write that was so awful?

Oh wait, yes, the B word
Sorry for the inappropriate language on the server, I meant to say with the new update I got comfy decking people in the face because they sometimes need a minute to decide if they're gonna surrender or try and shoot me

[tame creek]

Just got myself ready or not Wish me luck

[shadow ether]

Let's gooo! Good luck in there mate

[elder nova]

Someone I shot in the arm bled out. I guess arms are more vital than the heart-

[shadow ether]

They might be

Also, that heart shot was just the entry wound, it could ricochet off a bone or something and end in the lung or through it

[elder nova]

I think turning the sternum into shrapnel would be worse than a hole with some lead at the end in terms of internal bleeding

[shadow ether]

Still survivable

[tame creek]

Maybe you hit an arterie

[elder nova]

Maybe

[bitter remnant]

i shoot people in the arm and they rag doll like they got punched by goku
though I probably shouldn't be using the G3A3...

[elder nova]

I still need to actually research what kind of body armor they likely have
and what 7.62 would do to them if anything
and maybe I'll get a mod that makes body armor something I actually have to take into account past "bigger round = one shot"

[elder nova]

nah G3A3 is peak
I love that gun so much now

[shadow ether]

You should be using shotguns! 😎

[bitter remnant]

I would be thrown in jail myself quicker than a heartbeat

[shadow ether]

Not if it's within RoE

[bitter remnant]

me and shotguns?

its not in ROE, I can guarantee that like you get guarantees from companies

[shadow ether]

If a suspect shoots at a SWAT team they clearly don't value their limbs very much

[bitter remnant]

"Why is he the human incarnate of a chicken nugget?"
"He didn't comply sir."

[shadow ether]

Well yes

[bitter remnant]

and losing a limb kinda yknow

kills suspects instantly and renders them sent to judgement day on same day delivery

[shadow ether]

This is uhm... A convincing argument for any other criminals to drop their guns and surrender before they make eye contact with an officer of the entry team

[bitter remnant]

i mean idk about you
but if a swat team with shotguns is pointing it at me and they are built like the human embodiment of the M1 Abrams I wouldn't even try

[shadow ether]

That's why if they still do, it's their problem now 😎

[bitter remnant]

"PUT YOUR HANDS UP"
doesn't comply
bodycam shuts off for 0.5s
snaps to corpse mangled beyond belief
"Entry team to TOC, one suspect down."

[shadow ether]

Just the muzzle flash would be enough

[worldly ridge]

We don't know what kind of plates the suspects have, at least to my knowledge.
But getting higher rated armor that can whitstand rifle round (7.62 NATO, 30-06) is pretty common nowadays. It's basically the standard

[shadow ether]

During that few frames of complete white screen, a wizard interfered and turned a piece of their body into tomato purèe

[worldly ridge]

Suspect takes civ hostage
I toss a stinger at them
Yell for surrender
Suspects immediately yeets weapon and gets down to his knees at Mach 2.
Civlian "DON'T F'KIN TOUCH ME!"

[shadow ether]

Maybe they're talking to the suspect?

[worldly ridge]

God I wish that would be the thing, but sadly no.

[shadow ether]

I mean after being touched with a gun I would very likely not want to be touched again any time that day

[worldly ridge]

When you ate a stinger nade and a fully armored guy with a giant ass gun yell at you to get down, you don't resist that command

[shadow ether]

Sometimes you do

[obsidian hornet]

Did Void ever say why they removed working mirrors from the game?

[shadow ether]

It's called a concussion

[worldly ridge]

We had them in the first place? They were always a buggy mess for me

[shadow ether]

They had enough performance issues as is

[obsidian hornet]

That's not an answer. They could have just made it a setting in the options. You don't remove features and call it a performance change.

[worldly ridge]

The suspect was oddly compliant. And they always are.
This is the case most often for me.
Hostage taker always immediately surrender after a stinger, but civilians ALWAYS resist

[split sandal]

Do i need to S tier all missions (again) in commander mode to obtain the developer gold watch?

[shadow ether]

Maybe they weren't working well even for high end machines

[shadow ether]

As they would after doing nothing wrong, being grabbed at gunpoint and then rubber frag'd by the police

[worldly ridge]

Every single civilian ever? If you get taken hostage, eat a greande and the cop tells you to get down, would you tell them to fuck off?

We are talking about 5 fully armored and armed SWAT guys yelling at you at the top of their lungs.

[tame creek]

How acurate are the minimum and Suggested system Requirements? Like of i have the Suggested Will it run fine?

[shadow ether]

I would due to the fact I don't register objects in my area of existence after being rubber fragged

[worldly ridge]

So at least, you'd be shocked and not act because of that, not openly tell the SWAT guys to fuck off

[coarse osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1hjh7wo/the_old_farm_map_mod_has_been_released_download/

fits modding chat more, but thought i'll put it here since it was once an original map

[tacit gull]

AYO WHAT THE FUCK

[shadow ether]

I think I need a minute to figure out what still exists around me before I can realize what I need to comply with
My head super hurts
Everything hurts
My existence is being painful
Loud people are screaming at me
Fuck off, noisy people, I need a minute to reset my brains

[tacit gull]

actually huge

[coarse osprey]

it is nuts

[stable kernel]

#🔎looking-for-players for finding someone to play with, but do not use this server to recruit for other servers without permission to do so.

[worldly ridge]

Is that why you stand up straight, cross your arms and tell the cops to fuck off?

[harsh vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/garn-47-car-gif-6360379418477262515

Fail, negative aura

[elder nova]

I would just do that until I have a 4th amendment claim to take to court

[worldly ridge]

I dunno, personally I would get down. And then we can figure it out later.

If I resist a SWAT team's demand to get down, I'd expect to get decked in the face or tasered. I don't want that

[shadow ether]

I would probably not stand up any degree of straight, but there is a chance I would cross my arms (because it hurts less that way) and tell noisy people to fuck off (I don't have the concept of high threat response law enforcement officers yet, it hasn't loaded back in)

[worldly ridge]

But of course, as I mentioned. This is most civilians, while the suspect have clear minds and can immediately throw their guns and assume the demanded position

[shadow ether]

Yeah, because they weren't rubber frag'd so hard

[worldly ridge]

They were

[harsh vigil]

Woke suspects smh

[shadow ether]

A human shield is a shield

[worldly ridge]

Often it lands at their feet or behind them

[elder nova]

at their feet is crazy
imagine taking a hostage and your balls get impacted by hundreds of tiny rubber balls

[worldly ridge]

Even if it lands behind them, the civ is somehow always resisting.
And let's be honest here.

This isn't "I'm concussed and everything hurts" civilians. This is "NO FUCK YOU YOU'RE A COP" civilians

[shadow ether]

In that case it's very natural for them to give up (they got grenaded) and not their hostage (they were spared and are not having a good hug)

[worldly ridge]

I love it especially when they go
"OVER HERE PLEASE HELP!"
"Hands up!"
"FUCK YOU!"

[elder nova]

maybe they're trying to incite you to commit war crimes

[worldly ridge]

How is it natural for them to give up after getting naded?
Are they not concussed and unable to understand their environment?

Aren't we just noisy people?

[shadow ether]

Yeah but the suspect might be built different, and unlike me, they knew they were doing a bad thing and their primal response would be to stop doing a bad thing

[worldly ridge]

built different XD

Well, it is the same people that hear their door being breached with a C2, a stinger landing, 20 shots of .308 being firend and going
"I think I heard something"

[shadow ether]

Are they not? You don't see me zooming around with damn battle rifles and chest rigs and backpacks full of ammo

[worldly ridge]

Neither are the lowest tier suspects

[shadow ether]

Their endurance may just be a bit higher from all the criminaling they do

[worldly ridge]

[split sandal]

Am i required to S tier all missions in commander mode to get the hermit watch

[shadow ether]

I'm not sure, check the requirements in the customization options menu

[split sandal]

It just says complete it in permadeath mode without dying or losing a single officier

[worldly ridge]

Then do that I guess

[split sandal]

didnt say anything about S tier all maps

[shadow ether]

Then you don't need an S rank in them

[shadow ether]

Low tier suspects are also likely on drugs, their endurance may exceed mine based on that fact even if they were not engaged in criminaling prior to being grenaded by five heavily armored truck sized people of long gun and short temper

[worldly ridge]

The guys in 23Mbps don't act like they're on drugs. And they aren't special either.

Let's end the discussion here, because we will never arrive at a proper conclusion

IMO civilian AI fucked sideways to sunday and that's that

[shadow ether]

We won't because I am purposefully continuing a discussion

[shadow ether]

That is very much a fact I cannot object in good faith

[formal ember]

@shadow ether Hey so is twisted nerve ever going to get fixed and is the same issue going to get fixed on dorms because it's impossible to do S rank on them on CO-OP because of invisible guns dropping.and somehow it doesn't seem to get talked about on here like more than once

[shadow ether]

They might be on drugs! I think it's even in the lore that the streamer does have drugs around for parties, just not today when the police shows up.

Maybe they did all of their remaining supply before Judge showed up? And that's why you don't have it as evidence, it's all up in their bloodstream already

[shadow ether]

Why are you asking me lol
It is very annoying, I agree

[formal ember]

I feel like the not important stuff like how people behave and spelling errors are talked about 10x more on here, why lol

[shadow ether]

Because it's novel

[formal ember]

yeah but this stuff is game breaking. those details are not

[halcyon terrace]

@shadow ether your are not developre?

[worldly ridge]

Developing a migraine that is XD

[formal ember]

I feel like if the real issues get more of a voice they'll be more pressed to fix them. for christ sake it's not even listed in the fucking known issues thread

[shadow ether]

The issue with guns on twisted nerve is the same issue everyone talked about already, and the spelling errors are new and people behaving poorly are usually not the same person being the same arse

[worldly ridge]

That's why I shittalk the AI so much tbh.

[shadow ether]

If I were, we would already have a proper sniper rifle on long tac

[covert aurora]

[halcyon terrace]

@shadow ether u are real police? says officer by youre name

[covert aurora]

Hows it going everyone? 🙂

[shadow ether]

Not all officers are police officers y'know

[worldly ridge]

So do you. It's just the server role

[tacit gull]

everyone in this server is real police

[formal ember]

yeah south american airlines captains aren't cops either

[worldly ridge]

Maybe the real police is the ROE breach we've made along the way