👮ron-discussion

[summer copper]

you can command them to use the item

[bitter mason]

like "request flashbang" and they give you one of theirs
since AI throwing it is just not reliable enough

[bitter mason]

yeah and then they do a shit throw and flashbang you

[summer copper]

thats an AI problem then no?

[bitter mason]

thats not really something I think they could resolve

[summer copper]

ive been flashed by teammates before lol

[bitter mason]

AI isnt going to be able to throw grenades and clear rooms as dynamically as a player

unless they get really really fucking impressive AI that they're clearly not capable of

its a similar problem to how some areas of maps play terribly with AI. It seems clear that levels are designed with COOP primarily in mind and they dont make many considerations on how areas clear with AI teammates

[summer copper]

obviously not, but its not unrealistic to think they could fix grenade throwing issues

[ionic fiber]

I wish I can do this with my friends
so that way we can pass around mags or grenades

[bitter mason]

yeah it would be a great feature

[ionic fiber]

especially great to carry extra mags for the pointman

since he's prob gonna get into alot of fights

and I wish we can have the medical system that was teased years ago

[bitter mason]

If they dont impliment a weight system over the points one, atleast one thing I'd like is to maybe give SMGs 2 mags per 1 point or something

[ionic fiber]

yeah, Swat 4 with mods already did that. So I don't see why it shouldn't be like that

or atleast a happy medium where you get alot of molle slots, but more mags = more weight.

[bitter mason]

It just comes off as strange to me how every item is basically worth the same point no matter the size
so its not even a case of "You wouldnt realistically be able to hold more"
because 13 m4 mags 13 flashbangs would be quite different

[ionic fiber]

slowing yourself down and making moving around clunkier

[bitter mason]

yep its the system I personally prefer
lets you be more varied in playstyle

[ionic fiber]

so you get some time to pick and choose
or atleast a simple bar, like in doorkickers

[summer copper]

with mods

[bitter mason]

if you want to be fast pack light
but if you want to carry more you have to sacrifice speed

[ionic fiber]

its 1 mod that has been dead for years

the last mod I knew, was last updated 1 year ago

[burnt quarry]

Hey, i saw on a Video from Ready or Not a new Helemt from the DLC.
Where is it? My friend says it looks like a Helmet from Rainbow.
If anyone know what i mean please Respond. In this Time i will look for the Video i saw it in.

[bitter mason]

SEF does it and I think many people would agree its one of the better ways to play swat 4

[bitter mason]

Ill post them in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art for you

[tacit gull]

It's a pilot helmet, it's not available without mods right now

[burnt quarry]

Oh, ok. My friend bought the DLC for the Helmet.

[tacit gull]

He still needs it for the mod to work

[ionic fiber]

RoN should surpass it as a spiritual successor. yet
the doors swing both ways
a debilitating inventory system that doesn't take into account the weight and bulk of items
AI that feels the same as its predecessor
a clunkier command system
the same exploits and the same optimized playstyle of less lethal and gas

[still trench]

imagine not having 100% achievement completion by now

[summer copper]

all subjective except for the doors point

[ionic fiber]

you can S rank with lethal?

[tacit gull]

Actually RON does less lethal better since you can't just shoot guns out of everybody's hands now and gas isn't completely broken

[bitter mason]

if you dont kill anyone yes

[still trench]

hop on ready or not eu

[tacit gull]

The AI in RON is arguably worse since the devs shoved in features without thinking how they work AT ALL

[bitter mason]

I managed to get an S rank on spider yesterday without taking beanbag or pepperballs
though I did have gunfighter mod and lots of taser shots

[tacit gull]

On top of them just not listening to orders much more than in swat 4

[bitter mason]

Yeah AI in RoN is worse in many ways

[tacit gull]

As for the weight system... it was cut out of SEF derivatives aswell for a reason

[still trench]

Multiplayer > Friends Only. Problem fixed, 0 AI, just u.

I remember those times when RoN AI was better than Real human beings.

[ionic fiber]

the problem is that, killing someone gives you less points.
so to maximize the points, you have to get something like a taser or OC

[tacit gull]

It created a lot of issues and i guess VOID weren't able to handle them properly

[ionic fiber]

even First responders?

I don't remember that. I still remember that I maxed out the weight

FAL with 7 mags and Heavy ceramic

[tacit gull]

Yes, First Responders weight system was simplified back to the base games' Verylight/Light/Heavy system

[bitter mason]

Maps in SWAT 4 felt more built for AI teammates whereas RONs feel designed mainly for COOP
Ready or Not SWAT ai is better in some ways but worse in others.
Suspect AI in ready or not I just dont like compared to swat 4, they still feel a little weird and its probably the stress system. Void chucked in all these complicated systems and logic for suspect AI to follow and just makes things arguably worse

[tacit gull]

Due to how enemy AI works in RON it requires cooperation that you cannot achieve with bots

Atleast not theese fucking ancient ass bots ripped straight outta 1999

[bitter mason]

yeah
designing it with coop first singleplayer second is a detriment to the overall gameplay

[ionic fiber]

especially to people with no friends
like me
ToT

[bitter mason]

you could probably translate singleplayer designed levels and AI much better into coop than you can coop to singleplayer

I've played coop and its fun
but I just kinda prefer to take full control over the squad and play singleplayer

[still trench]

sounds like emo to me

[ionic fiber]

nah, bad wifi

[still trench]

emo

[stone bay]

Is anyone else bothered by the slow weapon switch and draw speed in games, especially when you're about to die? It's so frustrating when I'm injured and still have to slowly pull out my handgun. As a SWAT character, that's just so unprofessional
LMAO

[ionic fiber]

its annoying yeah, but it does teach you to think about your ammunition. should you reload and risk getting ambushed, or switch to your pistol
atleast that's how I look at it

[umbral oar]

is m14 your primary

[stone bay]

It doesn’t matter what primary weapon I’m using—sometimes the situation forces me to quickly switch to my handgun just to stay alive

[umbral oar]

m14 unequip is really slow though

[jolly verge]

M14, MK17 and 509 have holster delay

[tacit gull]

The reload speeds in ron are fucking ridiculous, that's kind of why it doesnt matter

[ionic fiber]

idk, maybe its because of stockholm syndrome from tarkov

so maybe an animation where you use your off hand to grab your sidearm

[stone bay]

I'm just wondering if the weapon switch speed from an empty primary to a secondary in the game really fits the image of a SWAT operator

[ionic fiber]

I remember this mobile game did that

so when you're dry on your primary, you can grab your secondary and use that, with your rifle on high ready

[lost inlet]

simple solution: Allow you to stop doing anything to pull out your sidearm

[stone bay]

The best solution is to have a teammate nearby to make sure you don’t go down in special situations
LOL

Otherwise, I really wish the speed of drawing my handgun could be as fast as possible

[lost inlet]

i've learned to never trust SWAT bots and anything i do in the game is meaningless

[stone bay]

LOL,sometimes even AI teammates can be surprisingly helpful

The only thing that drives me crazy about having them around is that if I don’t give them the command to stay put, they’ll follow me to certain doorways and block my exit, not letting me leave

[ionic fiber]

why can't we cancel grenades?

[warped stirrup]

Because

[ionic fiber]

we pull the pin
the spoons is still in the greade,

[mighty oasis]

Aye chat will we ever get ready or not {REC}2 dlc concept???

[ionic fiber]

mr grenade is still our friend

[warped stirrup]

I don’t use them because I will throw them when not trying to

[ionic fiber]

the most annoying thing is that
and unable to cancel the arresting animation

[warped stirrup]

Brooooo

Fr

I thing my game bugged once and when I got shot at I let go

[gaunt gale]

What's that?

[gaunt gale]

You can also cancel as of the latest DLC :>

[ionic fiber]

how?

I haven't been able to vanilla

[gaunt gale]

It should just be any input while arresting

[ionic fiber]

ok

hopefully there's gonna be a big update that reworks the doors

and stops me from just kicking every door down

[tacit gull]

Actually having to use breaching methods would be a good change

[lost inlet]

would be nice if C2 behaves like C2 instead of weaker C4

[ionic fiber]

yeap, and forces the player to position themselves into alternative positions

[ionic fiber]

how does it behave IRL btw?
I never saw C2 irl

[tacit gull]

I dont know the difference in their operation other than bigger boom

[ionic fiber]

because rn C2 in RoN is like SEF:FR where it blows the door down

[lost inlet]

probably like in SWAT 4 where it'd blows the just handle off completely instead of removing the door entirely

[ionic fiber]

ah, that actually makes more sense

not like that smokebomb meme

[tacit gull]

Yeah doors desintegrating doesn't really look right lmao

[lost inlet]

We got C3 instead of C2

[ionic fiber]

give us C5
let us level the entire building
:3

[twilit sand]

mag dumping randoms in this game is so calming

40 bucks well spent

[inland thistle]

200 slots make the game so easy (and some achievements a joke)

[grim forge]

Can wedges that are picked up be re-used by the AI team that picked it up?

[tacit gull]

tell that to the other guy

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone else notice that the white outline around your character in the HUD seems to represent your HP? When it's white, your HP is full, but it slowly turns red as you take damage

[heavy river]

my finger is sore from holding W and trying to search for the livestream and last civilians

[tacit gull]

Yes, that's how the health works, it's also not accurate and doesn't update properly

[obsidian hornet]

Wdym?

[heavy river]

20 minutes to do the mission, another +26 minutes searching for the last civilians. Not very fun also the AI bots are useless in this task.

[short karma]

is there a suggestsions channel?

just because ive shot someone in the leg like 5 times and they are fine then i shoot them in the leg again then the ydie and act like they have been shot in the head it doesnt make sense they should drop to the floor and maybe get back up after liek 2 eg shots not just absorb 5 then go down like a headshot after 1 more shot.

[tacit gull]

When bleeding you can stop bleeding and restore your health to 50%, when that happens the health status paperdoll will not refresh untill you're shot again

[obsidian hornet]

That's annoying

[desert plaza]

can i see this screen bigger #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[spiral onyx]

I don't know if u do that, but yelling is pretty good to know where the last civilian is... he will answer to you by a quote or idk... i do that everytime (I know it's common knowledge on the game, but maybe, you didn't knew)

[amber dock]

Hold TAB

[viral bone]

new update just hit?

[frail pier]

PATCH NOTES?!?!?

They're not here, they're not there, they're not anywhere

Nvm just dropped

[viral bone]

no but 5.4 bg update pending on steam

[tulip sun]

brug

[viral bone]

lets see how many bugs we get now

[tulip sun]

game crashes
5.44gb update

it was an omen

[quaint raptor]

aight

i finished the base game cam paign last night and just got the dlc

[tulip sun]

lets see if this breaks all the damn mods again yippie

im betting at least No Crack and other AI mods

[desert plaza]

I’m new and I thought I had everything but still says bring order to chaos looked trough the entire house came back at the front door for the 4th time out of nowhere someone with a shotgun that scared the shit out of me hahaha

[twilit vault]

Theres 5gb update

Whats inside

[amber dock]

Check #announcements

[viral bone]

Candy

[umbral oar]

i love candy

[gaunt gale]

Game: Fix meeee

[mint falcon]

why the FUCK have i got a 60gb update for ron?

[summer copper]

wdym unauthorised use of fucking force it's a YEMENI TERRORIST WHO JUST SHOT UP A NIGHT CLUB

[stable kernel]

No u

[tulip sun]

wow

that's a lot of update

[summer copper]

larg

[fleet talon]

Yippee

[mint falcon]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[shy tulip]

HA

[mint falcon]

i think i need to reconnect my disk

[shy tulip]

They fixed being able to get big shell from arrested suspects

[summer copper]

so we can now or we can't now

cuz we couldn't before

[amber dock]

Oh we could before, now you can’t anymore

[shy tulip]

^

[stable kernel]

Allegedly

[amber dock]

1984 smh

[summer copper]

bruh

[prisma tusk]

"Fixed Judge’s big head clipping" damn shots fired officer down

[gentle obsidian]

Womp womp no pvs 5 for dlc

Atleast the helmet clipping is fixed

[summer copper]

what about the other one apart from big shell where you have to kill 15 in 15 seconds

[amber dock]

Nothing needed to patch there

[summer copper]

rip

[shy tulip]

Soon™️

but we knew it would probably not make it in patch 1

[mint falcon]

nvm i fixed it, it was my disc, i thought it was connected

[gaunt gale]

It's a 5gb~ update, but it's patching 60gb worth of files

[mint falcon]

connected the disc and it dropped down to 5,4
no problems what so ever, thanks for answering

[tulip sun]

waaaaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/hello-kitty-cry-kitty-cry-hello-kitty-crying-hello-kitty-crying-a-river-hello-kitty-river-gif-10158689458802809802

[summer copper]

let's go bro i got big shell using the cheese strat cuz i haven't updated yet

no shame idc

[signal tulip]

It's cool to see that this patch answered many of the community demands, like improving the surrender animations and speed

[timber mesa]

band

[summer copper]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

just pretend you can see the gif

[willow kraken]

Is the PVS-5 cut content or will it be added in a future patch? Regardless this update's huge

[signal tulip]

Hope next patches keep like this.

Having a setting to choose how easily suspects and civilians surrender would be cool though

[shy tulip]

It will be added in the future

[summer copper]

what's pvs-5

[willow kraken]

Hell yeah thanks

[shy tulip]

Had issues that prevented it from being part of DW and wasn't a priority for patch 1

[willow kraken]

The old school NVGs shown in the patch notes banner

[summer copper]

ohhh i see

did you guys also fix the bug with the assault rifle being the headgear

[strange depot]

Swat 4 is trash. 🗑️ ready or not is lit 🔥

[summer copper]

both games are great

[spiral garden]

is the new dlc worth $10?

[summer copper]

yeah i'd say it is

oh yeah i forgot i cant say the B word. anyway my point is that yes you should get the DLC

[spiral garden]

theres always people that will complain

[summer copper]

yes well i've never seen it as bad as it is in this community lol

[spiral garden]

lol

[summer copper]

the maps are really well made, the missions are challenging in a fun way and it's all around a good time

[spiral garden]

so is it still worth purchasing if i only have $34 and would be very broke until friday lol

[shy tulip]

You can play with a host who owns the DLC to decide if you want to purchase it to play on your own

[spiral garden]

what

thats cool

damn thats a long slowmode

[shy tulip]

The only thing you'd be missing is the cosmetic set, but you can otherwise play the maps under another hosts rules

[spiral garden]

cosmetic set? now im really interested

[summer copper]

10 seconds no?

[spiral garden]

what

[summer copper]

it's pretty decent

[summer copper]

meant to reply to the slowmode comment

there was probably people arguing before or just filling up chat in general cuz it's usually 5 secs

[spiral garden]

oh yeah, its 10 seconds. the second longest slowmode ive seen i think lol

[spiral garden]

thats usually how it goes in big servers

[warped cave]

I didn't know if you were dead your ai can play in quickplay

[sinful stag]

thats a new feature

[amber dock]

Just a FYI regarding this, I’m pretty sure if they finish a map it doesn’t count as finishing a map like you won’t unlock next mission cause you have to be alive iirc

[warped cave]

oh

Will they finish S rank or no

[amber dock]

And the times I’ve had used that feature they’ve bugged out

[amber dock]

No, cause S rank everyone has to be alive

[warped cave]

ohh.

[amber dock]

Including you

[tulip sun]

this shit still patching

[merry obsidian]

is there any plans for a compass or something getting added? The helicopter calling out enemies in cardinal directions is kind of pointless when i don't know which direction they're referring to

[amber dock]

Check settings

It's been there since like 2021

[merry obsidian]

no shit? lmao jesus how tf did i never notice this

[covert aurora]

Its all good

[amber dock]

probs cause compass hasn't been of need until chopper got added

[covert aurora]

^

[merry obsidian]

good point

[amber dock]

I have never used compass until Dark waters came out

it was just one of those weird things that was in game but no one uses

I prefer a empty hud

[merry obsidian]

same. I like the minimal hud, but until we get something wearable for directions, i guess i'll have to rock the compass

[amber dock]

Would be cool yeah

[bitter mason]

I very rarely have an issue with ROE but I got a penalty for shooting a dude who was doing the fake surrender animation

[amber dock]

I personally haven't had that issue yet, maybe I'm lucky

[covert aurora]

Would be nice to get an option to change the chopper directions from compass to normal "hey 2nd floor, right side." Etc

[bitter mason]

I've never had it before

I've always found ROE to be maybe a bit too relaxed but maybe thats a good thing with how suspects are

[tiny quail]

ngl i think it would be nice for ai teammate to occasionally talk alongside the chopper call-out to tell where's that direction to us, like

Helicopter : Enemy spotted...west!
Swan : That's to our left.

oh sorry... suspect*

[summer copper]

so for sleeper agent, is it arresting 15 people in 15 seconds or is it arresting 15 people with 15 seconds between them

[bitter mason]

the chopper lines need more detailed. You can enable a compass on the hud which helps. But more lines would be nice
like "side 1 level 2" corresponding to the map with some slight descriptions of the location

[bitter mason]

15 seconds between them

in 15 seconds would literally be impossible

[summer copper]

yeah lol especially without restraining

that makes it easier tho i might try for it soon

[covert aurora]

Agreed

[tacit gull]

The chopper contact loss lines should also mention the side

[bitter mason]

and please let us activate the chopper cam in the top right like the helmet cam somehow

[tacit gull]

man

[bitter mason]

its just not practical to stop and look at your ipad

[somber light]

Where can I potentially make a suggestion, #1050529506022137876 ?

[amber dock]

or #📩feedback-reports-channel

[tacit gull]

There's a reason the top right helmet cam was reimplemented back in the day

Originally the cam was only on your pad which lead to this exact issue

[bitter mason]

lmaoo

[summer copper]

judge ipad kid confirmed?

[bitter mason]

he eats his french fries and smears the screen with his greasy fingers

[tacit gull]

It's like they forgot the issues they were working against in development

[summer copper]

spills sprite on the tablet

[bitter mason]

I didnt realise they didnt impliment the helmet cam in 1.0 🤔

[tacit gull]

They implemented it before EA, even had an entire trailer showcasing it

Since people complained during PVP days

[bitter mason]

still think if they ever do figure out how to implement a sniper, if they dont want it player controlled there should be a toggle command for "recon only" and "Shoot hostiles"

[tacit gull]

Actually recon only sniper on base game maps could work

[bitter mason]

oh this is pvp stuff

[tacit gull]

Instead of the chopper

[bitter mason]

yeah I can think of plenty of areas it could be

[tacit gull]

Wouldn't even need to cut the thermal

Speaking of helmet cam... GIVE US OPTIWAND CAM

That would be so damn useful

[bitter mason]

think some maps could do with extra entry points too
gas could have one on the restaurant side for varieties sake
and maybe even one in the garden of meth in that area that used to be open in early access

[tacit gull]

Honestly i don't even see why you start at the laundromat, there's literally nothing there

[bitter mason]

and entry points should be changable in the map before deployment rather than only in the level menu perhaps

[bitter mason]

yeah its pretty pointless

[tacit gull]

Won't happen, entry points fundamentally shift how the level plays out

[bitter mason]

yea

[tacit gull]

It has to change suspect and civ spawns as well as the rest of the map

[bitter mason]

dam

[tacit gull]

For example leviathan blocks off the entry points you haven't used

So unless you can get the map to load while you're in the deployment stage it's probably not gonna happen

[summer copper]

you mean, see your allies optiwand feed?

[tacit gull]

yessir

Would make optiwand on AI not completely useless

Especially if you could control it? Would be awesome

[prime jacinth]

🍆

[shy tulip]

That's the issue with things like shutting off the power with the current system, it'd have to be a whole new map

now for me to spend the next 30mins updating known issues

[summer copper]

this patch is goated

people actually surrender in a timely fashion now

if only i could S RANK DORMS THAT WOULD BE GREAT

attempt 15 now cuz my officer walked in front of my gun while i was getting shot at

[tacit gull]

thoroughly tested

[summer copper]

attempt 16 cuz my officer shot me with a beanbag and i died cuz my gas mask broke

not a beanbag sorry i mean a VPL

[hidden rapids]

run the game on such low settings i cant see my red dot or run on 11 unstable fps

pick your struggle

[summer copper]

maybe upgrade your pc then genius fym pick a struggle? it's not my fault your game runs like shit

[hidden rapids]

never said it was your fault

[summer copper]

attempt 17 cuz a suspect killed a civilian

[sterile forum]

can someone play the new map with me

i dont want to give RON more money

[amber dock]

rip Zack lost 10 dollars to his wallet.... no more spotify

[tacit gull]

-1 fallower

[thorn egret]

Void gave us the ability to remove headphones
Now give us the cool 90s FBI hat...

[summer copper]

BRO I HAD A GOD FUCKING RUN AND THEN ARRAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAHAAA

[tacit gull]

that and ballistic mask please void im beggin

[summer copper]

nevermind he was faking it i think i got it

[hidden rapids]

i just run a cap on my head i dont need a helmet or anhything

[frail pier]

Can't remove it?

[summer copper]

18 attempts it took to S rank dorms but i got it

[thorn egret]

Wait what about it-

[hidden rapids]

are you using any difficulty mods?

[tacit gull]

Nah i mean the standalone facemask you can see in the tutorial mission

not talking about the mandible

[frail pier]

Idek what that looks like.

[summer copper]

no its just a C WORD of a mission

[frail pier]

RoN has a tutorial?

[summer copper]

yes lol

[hidden rapids]

what weapons you using

[summer copper]

beanbag shotgun

[hidden rapids]

ah

[frail pier]

Is that the blue training gun range? I skipped that so fucking quick

[summer copper]

i was losing runs to the stupidest shit though stuff that was mostly out of my control

[hidden rapids]

how do you shoot a suspect with a shotgun with a beanbag without killing them

[umbral oar]

solo or with ai?

[hidden rapids]

solo

[summer copper]

with AI

[summer copper]

don't headshot

my game also drops frames cuz it likes to set its own graphics to epic even though i keep turning it down to medium

[thorn egret]

Ohh, like, I'm guessing it's a round one? Black metal, covers the entire face, has eye holes
Don't remember seeing one in the tutorial so I'm guessing-

[tacit gull]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[thorn egret]

Yeah that's what I was thinking ab

Would be cool to finally get that ingame, however I feel like it would clip heavily w/anti flash goggles

[summer copper]

so just make it incompatible with them

[thorn egret]

Yeah but that's a cosmetic option on the ballistic mask, sounds like it would be at least

[summer copper]

you can still make a cosmetic option incompatible

[thorn egret]

[tacit gull]

Yeah, the flight suit for example just replaces your pants

[carmine cairn]

not sure if its just me, but certain missions from the base game have gotten worse in terms of performance after Dark Waters. particularly Cherryessa farm I have been experiencing some awful 50% frame drops in some bad hotspots that were previously only like 20% drops and a consistent 10% drop across the board in all locations

[bronze cobalt]

Do you get AI teammates in Multiplayer?

[summer copper]

no

[acoustic ridge]

theres a mod for it (idk if updated)

[bronze cobalt]

Know the name?

[amber dock]

Spawn police

[balmy moth]

Void plz make old farm a map again and my life is yours

[cosmic jasper]

New update?

[amber dock]

hotfix, check #announcements for changelogs

[round pagoda]

seal :))

[strange depot]

I can confirm suspects are still bugged as fuck and cannot be arrested… stuck in a weird state where you can’t do shit unless you incapacitate them… I thought this was patched 😡

[pulsar cedar]

I really feel like VOID is starting to push the limits with Dark Waters. Don’t get me wrong, I just finished it with a friend, and it was a lot of fun. But I can’t help feeling like we moved away from what it means to be a SWAT team with this one.

Even considering how much of a nightmare Los Sueños is, the situations we’re responding to are starting to get way out of hand. Like, in ||3 Letter Triad||, we’re taking on a ||literal PMC/mercenary|| group trying to buy a ||bio-weapon|| from ||pirates||. At what point does this stop being SWAT’s problem and start being something the ||military or federal agencies should be dealing with?||

What happened to handling a bank robbery, or a barricaded suspect in their house? You know, situations where it feels like we’re still part of a local law enforcement and not some paramilitary force that just happens to wear POLICE/SWAT on our gear. I’m not saying every call needs to be a basic, run-of-the-mill routine arrest warrant, because that would get boring. But constantly going up against cartels, terrorists, and now ||mercenary groups|| is starting to feel like overkill. But, there’s a middle ground. Missions where the stakes are high, but still feel like something a SWAT team would realistically be called into handle.

Right now, I feel less like a city SWAT officer and more like I’ve been pulled into some DHS task force. And that’s a shame, because one of the things that made Ready or Not so compelling was how grounded and tense the gameplay felt. I’d love to see the game lean away from something that'd be be in "Die Hard: Die harder even harder" and back into that grounded, tactical feel.

What are your guys's thoughts?

[carmine cairn]

seal 🙂

[cursive minnow]

I mean I can see these scenarios playing out in the swat TV series but it really is straying from anything real life swat would deal with.

[strange depot]

Ready or not: Socom US navy seals dlc

We aren’t police. We are terrorist hunters. Rainbow

[shy tulip]

I prefer the more crazy scenarios from a story and gameplay perspective, they just haven't shown that small town scenarios work in Ready or Not really. Not in my view at least. I don't mind em pushing the limits if it can somewhat wrap around or be justified as law enforcement, or something related to existing story.

[cursive minnow]

Honestly if they wanted to start diversifying the game in to more than just being swat I'm all for it.

[pulsar cedar]

Yeah, I don't mind it if they want to do the cool shit, because, it is cool shit. But it feels weird being constrained to the rule book an officer would follow, in the situations D-Platoon find themselves in.

[shy tulip]

I really don't mind it, RoN as a universe has been nothing like our world besides visuals. It's a crazy place with a crazy story

Everything is as well, even if it is an exaggeration, tied back into law enforcement

[bitter remnant]

this new patch has made the game infinitely worse

[strange depot]

Doesn’t feel like a traditional swat game. We end up killing 90% of the suspects anyway.

[bitter remnant]

i have had 4 hostages taken ON 23 MEGABYTES A SECOND

[covert aurora]

Thats just bad rng

[round pagoda]

just tell em that's illegal

[shy tulip]

^

[pulsar cedar]

I was quite impressed with myself that i was even able to arrest 5 suspects on 3 triad, despite everything that goes on in that map.

[bitter remnant]

nah that is not bad rng, I havent had that shit happen on a single hostage taken EVER before this patch

[shy tulip]

Tell them that's not very pro gamer of them

[round pagoda]

bit rude innit

[covert aurora]

I have had plenty of histage situations pre patch

[bitter remnant]

i have only on the later levels

never the muppets with just a five seven or some shit like that

[covert aurora]

I have had them on gas, 23mbps. Like i said in my case just bad rng

[strange depot]

I feel like I have to equip negotiator just to have a semi swat experience. Otherwise no one barely wants to give up

[covert aurora]

It definitely helps

[grave crown]

ikr raiding large-scale oil rig with 5 swat members is kinda unrealistic

[pulsar cedar]

no one wants to give up because everyone is "ex-military" or "Violent Cartel members" who are "Extremely dangerous"

[zenith moon]

Bro. My AI TEAM JUST KILLED A CIVILIAN, BROOOOOO

[grave crown]

rip

[zenith moon]

Tried getting a S, well not anymore.

[grave crown]

I suggest not using ai teammates

[zenith moon]

I cant handle 7 suspects in a place 😭

[grave crown]

oof

[strange depot]

I hate that shit. When a suspect takes a hostage and your team kills both of them… can’t they just go for a headshot? You can’t tell me an elite 5 man swat team can’t pull off a headshot?

These guys are supposed to be the best of the best

[pulsar cedar]

Something, something, funds are stretched, something something, only you guys are available, something something, you're d-platoon, something something judge.

[zenith moon]

No, I mean the Civ was like infront of SWAT AI

[grave crown]

maybe u should check the room with mirror gun before u clear the room with ai

teammates

[zenith moon]

Well, true. But the suspect just wondered in while my AI team was cuffing the victim.

Ugh..

I was going for a S...

[cursive minnow]

Honestly when I'm doing S run shit I don't even tell the AI to do anything I usually just have them follow me from behind and I do all the work they're just there to assist barely and give the enemy less morale.

[zenith moon]

Bro. That stupid Beanbaggun just cut the half of the leg off

[strange depot]

I run 2 veteran trait officers for - semi competence when engaging. And 2 negotiators for that 50% chance of surrending from compliance shouts

[sharp grove]

Has anyone here done Sleeper agent?
Are you able to kill, if not what do you suggest doing?
Does beanbagging/arresting count?

[zenith moon]

Shoudl I restart the mission ro continue?

[cursive minnow]

Yes you're able to kill and I just used the helper mod by the wonderful mr eman to get it done because fuck doing it vanilla.

[grave crown]

make them surrender, put them in room with ur ai teammates with pepper gun. and kill them all.

I haven't tried but I think this will work

[strange depot]

Next dlc - ready or not: island thunder 🏝️ going deep in the jungles. It’s not about bringing order to chaos anymore. This is a terrorist hunt

[cursive minnow]

Honestly that would probably be the easiest way to do it vanilla still a lot of work and effort to accomplish though.

[sharp grove]

Mhm, that is what we are gonna do now

[grave crown]

yeah gonna be hard. this is probably one of the hardest achievement in this game

finish dorm in 5 mins is hard but this one is harder

[grave crown]

good luck

[grave crown]

make sure u choose the room with door so u can wedge the door prevent suspects runaway

[zenith moon]

I need help on something, If I tell civs to move to the exit will I get a higher score on civ or no?

[amber dock]

Uhh it simply reduces risk of them getting shot in crossfire

[zenith moon]

Ah okay. Thanks!

[grave crown]

u need to go close to exit to report civil at exit so it's kinda annoying

and they might get shot during they go to exit

[zenith moon]

Ah.

[shy tulip]

In a working system they get arrested automatically for you, same score as if you arrested them

may be bugged atm

[fleet minnow]

This is why the SWAT 4.5 mod is great :D

It lessens suspect engagements and actually makes them fear SWAT.

[covert aurora]

I honestly dont mind the hostage situations, makes the game more thrilling tbh

[summer copper]

i like the new voiceline that tells you when theres a hostage taken, makes it a lot easier to deal with

[covert aurora]

^

[umbral oar]

toc has walls

[shy tulip]

I was having a chat about all knowing TOC when he does that, but then I realized he does it when you see the hostage, because he's watching through your team cam.

[upbeat shore]

No helmet moment

[shy tulip]

Through your e y e s

[covert aurora]

Which makes sense, or watching through hacked security cameras

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/you-robert-de-niro-good-friend-pointing-gif-7882583

[shy tulip]

Just realized that Void needs to double down on the helicopter and give us a RoN version of Eagle 1

[covert aurora]

The heli is cool on certain levels, on 3 letter triad i dont see the use for it

Cause how in doors it is

[upbeat shore]

Up, Right, Down, Down, Down.

[covert aurora]

Left right left right b a start

:)

[shy tulip]

The helicopter I believe can fly and shine its light directly into the two large rooms

Along with the IR of course

[upbeat shore]

https://tenor.com/view/reference-captain-america-avengers-understood-gif-7991943

[covert aurora]

Lol

[upbeat shore]

Because we old af

[covert aurora]

33 and still going

[upbeat shore]

3||X|| and still going

[covert aurora]

🙂

[amber dock]

I’m 87 in tort years

[upbeat shore]

[amber dock]

In human years uh we don’t need to talk about that

[shy tulip]

(Careful with age jokes because Discord will nuke you if you say you're under TOS age)

[upbeat shore]

Which is the greatest feature Discord has

[shy tulip]

I remember No Text to Speech (or whatever his name is) covered a scam where people would ask you to say something in a foreign language that said "I am x age*" and Discord would autoban you

[upbeat shore]

Love that channel. Lately a bit of the edge, but still very informative and enjoyable.

[shy tulip]

The condos

[opal basin]

I love that mechanic. Especially since I don’t go for S rank often and… I don’t miss.

I don’t have the dlc yet but from what I’ve seen the suspects don’t respond to the floodlight on the heli

[covert aurora]

I kinda wish they try to shoot at the heli

[opal basin]

Do suspects see lasers/lights

[shy tulip]

I can tell you that do not (yet) see IR lasers

[opal basin]

Do they see lasers or lights though

[fleet minnow]

Give us Sierra 1 and I will put my soul up for sale.

[acoustic ridge]

cartel quad nods when

[shy tulip]

It would go hard to have enemies use NVG and IR lasers

Even if they can't see our lasers

[hazy lynx]

is there anyway i can like talk to a dev or to someone who can fix my issue

character voice lines are stuck on judge even though ive changed them several times

ive deleted all save data, re-installed the game and tried several times to solve the issue but it isnt fixing anything

[stable kernel]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[terse umbra]

Any tips on greased palms

I’m going for S rank but want an A at least

I’m using pepperballs & CS

I get close each time but the interior is just brutal

[amber dock]

Lots lots lots of CS gas to lock down areas, If you can clear the outer truck area first cause it will be a pain otherwise

[terse umbra]

Yeah that’s what I usually do is clear the outside first but like I said that interior seems they just pop up out of nowhere

I would rely on my squad mates but they literally are so bad at deploying smoke

Like anywhere, sometimes they just drop it instead of throwing

It would be easier if I could somewhat rely on them but they just suck deploying it

[vivid sundial]

does anyone know what button i press to view from the helicopter camera in the new dlc?

[amber dock]

Tablet

[vivid sundial]

thanks

[amber dock]

Press and hold TAB and it should be in bottom left ‘helicopter camera’

[amber dock]

The interior is best to use your team as meat shield and pray that they have enough beanbag rounds to make all suspects in their surrender

It’s RNG too sadly

[restive ferry]

Do interior last

[hazy lynx]

right, it says this was possibly fixed this update, it has not been

I hope that means they're still trying to fix it

nvm

[stable kernel]

It says it is being worked on

[hazy lynx]

im a dumbass yeah just realized

srry

[hazy lynx]

also my camera keeps getting shifted anytime im in the middle of combat

and its very annoying

[restive ferry]

Do you have free look keybound to something you’re using

[hazy lynx]

nah its like an aim assist

and its whenever I'm interacting with suspects and I have to quickly aim at another suspect or look around

it like locks me on to the suspect/civillian/door etc

and its super fucking annoying

[gilded oar]

aimbot

[hazy lynx]

its not aimbot lmao

im not dumb enough to install that garbage on my pc

besides, if I was using aimbot, why the hell would I announce that here?

makes no sense

[shy tulip]

You'd be surprised

[hazy lynx]

Some people are just fuggin stupid then

[ocean lichen]

Dude the outside of the police station changed

it became like a senate rally kinda area. LSPD police station shootout mish soon?

[shy tulip]

Watch the DLC trailer

[gilded oar]

not the DLC but the Los Suenos TV: Breaking News

[restive ferry]

It’s not a online PvP game lol

[hazy lynx]

I meann...

If you wanna be that one asshole that kills everyone at the start of a mission then.. yeah it can be

And even if it wasn't a pvp game, it's still scummy to use aimbot in general

[gilded oar]

so yeah why would anyone even use hacks on a coop game

[restive ferry]

People can’t have any challenges 💀

I had a co worker that used cheats like that in every single player game lol

Played alien isolation with a mod where the alien can’t kill you 💀

[gilded oar]

well technically if void does add pvp they will either have to make a anti cheat themselves or use a another companies anti cheat instead which is a better option cuz look what happened to COD Ricochet anti cheat.

[restive ferry]

Just make it so host can kick people

[gilded oar]

hmm yeah that would work like tf2

oh shi

nvm can't say that

[restive ferry]

I just want small maps like beach house where one team attacks and the other defends.

even PvP in the lobby with the kill house is fun

[gilded oar]

yeah there are some like the beach house where you raid a house of an Asian family whose kids are making untraceable weapons in the attic

[shy tulip]

I don't see Void having the time, people, and resources to make and maintain their own anti-cheat*

[restive ferry]

They don’t need no anti cheat

[shy tulip]

Especially seeing the never ending war between major anti-cheats and cheat companies

[restive ferry]

Just add a few extra spawn points and implement a score and round system

[gilded oar]

they can just add a kick voting system or have another companies anti cheat bu voting system is better.

"but"

[shy tulip]

No buts

Who knows how they'll do it, I get mental images of other games where people would queue up with cheaters to avoid being kicked

[restive ferry]

Join game. Host changes mode to pvp.
If someone cheats they get kicked

[gilded oar]

no no the but was for the bu

[restive ferry]

We don’t need skill based match making with ranks just simple casual pvp 😭 it ain’t that complicated

[gilded oar]

that is cod stuff

[restive ferry]

Literally just add a team system and Redesign the kill house and I’ll be happy

[shy tulip]

I would imagine PVP will use dedicated servers or the host will always be at the advantage

[gilded oar]

oh come on

okay so I cant use that word

[shy tulip]

Correct

[restive ferry]

They said they were going to have spawns set up for the kill house and they never did it

[gilded oar]

they did?

[restive ferry]

Prior to 1.0 dropping they said it

[gilded oar]

ohhhh

[restive ferry]

The gun play is so good in this game I just need some basic round based pvp bruh

[river tide]

if you get a new best grade in a multiplayer mission, does that still count for overall in the game

[restive ferry]

Yeah

[gilded oar]

well atleast I didn't get banned instantly

[restive ferry]

No free speech on discord

[gilded oar]

yeah

[restive ferry]

Euro moment

[terse umbra]

Love telling my AI to cover and they let a dude straight walk up + unload a full clip on one of the other guys 🤣🤣

[restive ferry]

Love telling them to breach and they just stand there

[gilded oar]

idk for me they always got my back. Maybe the dude you told to cover didn't like that guy who died

[restive ferry]

on Ironman mode and these dudes about to get me killed because they don’t follow commands

[gilded oar]

still yeah SWAT AI need another overhaul including suspect AI maybe

[restive ferry]

Real

At least they are mostly functional now

[opal basin]

Who cares if host is at an advantage in pvp? It’s so minor

[restive ferry]

I just want SOMETHING

[gilded oar]

he can just ban any cheater but not anyone who is has done nothing so a system like that will be good

[restive ferry]

the PvP mod is cool but the spawns aren’t implemented so it takes time to set up

[gilded oar]

or if its non host servers and dedicated ones then there has to be a voting system

which is also in tf2

[opal basin]

It doesn’t have to be complex just do a much larger Killhouse possibly with the ability to play pvp on small sections of campaign maps and make it peer to peer with a kick system

That’s it. No/very basic anticheat just to prevent literal game/pc crashing issues

[restive ferry]

I’m sayin bruh. This could be implemented in a week 😭

[opal basin]

Yeah

[restive ferry]

don’t want to pvp? Then don’t

[opal basin]

Or 3 days and some of that los locos premium shit

[gilded oar]

please no microtransactions

[restive ferry]

When DLC #3

[gilded oar]

Idk

probably next year

[shy tulip]

After free update

[restive ferry]

When free update

[gilded oar]

Operations like zero hour and R6?

[shy tulip]

No idea what you mean

And free update is when free update is

[gilded oar]

updates in zero hour and r6 and many other games name updates with operations

[restive ferry]

When boy update

[gilded oar]

boy update?

[restive ferry]

OGs know

[gilded oar]

oh

[final wasp]

how to unequip the headphone when not even wearing helmet

[jolly verge]

In customization set helmet to None

[final wasp]

I did and it still stays on.

[jolly verge]

Working fine for me, post screen with selected None on customization screen

[shy tulip]

Are you by chance on the latest update

[final wasp]

yes i am

[shy tulip]

What's the version # on your escape menu, bottom left

[final wasp]

ill go to gerneral voice channel, stream it for you. plz come take a look if possible

[shy tulip]

I cannot

[final wasp]

ready or not 67412

[jolly verge]

You either have broken mods or did not change helmet skin in customization options

[final wasp]

ok let me take off my mods and try again

[jolly verge]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[final wasp]

solved, many thanks

[shy tulip]

Do you by chance remember what mods it was

[final wasp]

it wasn't mods, silly me was staying at loadout tab selecting NO HELMET, didn't know customization tab actually had a section for HEADPHONE at HELMET section

😩

[elder void]

AI seems to have improved, but my AI Squad still gets stuck in the Shipping Container maze in Hide and Seek.

[restive ferry]

AI pathing isn’t that great in new levels either

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone had issues with C2 friendly fire even though no friendlies are on the other side of the door? I have the whole team stacked up on the correct side and somehow they take damage

[jolly verge]

Can happen

[shy tulip]

Yes, I've seen it

[fleet minnow]

FISA has regained their peltors! Although we bought the peltors... And helmets from Russia...

[obsidian hornet]

Do you guys prefer Flashbang Launcher or Stinger Launcher?

[shy tulip]

Chuck it like a baseball like a real swat member

These youngins and their lazy launchers

[gilded oar]

c2 now do damage from both sides!?

[obsidian hornet]

It seems to be a bug

[gilded oar]

so now I can't have my AI mates use c2 at all

[jolly verge]

They are the same, the only difference will be with hand grenades

[fleet minnow]

FISA has borrowed M67 grenades from the US Army. We will gladly use this to our advantage!

[obsidian hornet]

Re-read my comment dude.

You don't get Friendly Fire penalties when the Swat AI hit each other with anything

If you put C2 on a door, sometimes it bugs out and does friendly fire to your stacked up team

[obsidian hornet]

Flashbangs and Stingers are not the same.

[jolly verge]

The hand one yes, launcher variants are the same

same radius, damage, stun duration

[obsidian hornet]

That's dumb if they made stinger launchers and flashbang launchers have the same mechanical effect

I guess Flashbang launcher is better because there's less risk of friendly fire penalties with Anti-Flash Goggles

[jolly verge]

Goggles dont protect from flashbang damage, only it's effect

Which can be apply only for player

[gilded oar]

ohhh ok so i can have SWAT AI put c2 but I can't

[obsidian hornet]

You still can

it's not a very common bug

[gilded oar]

ok

hopefully it gets fixed even through its rare

still can be annoying

[heavy river]

Is the mirrorgun realistic?

[restive ferry]

No lol

[shy tulip]

I don't think one exists just like in-game, but i think there is a camera like it. Whether or not SWAT use it, idk

[heavy river]

this is my first time kinda using it but seems bit op

[lime stone]

Tfw we have grenade launchers, shields, battering rams, breach shotties
And a selfie stick is the winner

[tiny quail]

selfie stick to peek around corners my beloved

[lean valve]

i cant arrest some people in 3 letter triad

[magic osprey]

Hi, I have a troubling question.
I need specialists. Does the "Big shell specialist" challenge get an alarm immediately when i achieve it? The challenge of head-shooting two suspects from 30m out.

[jolly verge]

Yes, you dont need complete mission

[magic osprey]

OH MY GOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH !

Which means, I've never shot from 30 m out. It's so sad.

[pine ore]

dont blame yourself, its a cqb-oriented game

[magic osprey]

That's very kind of you. Thank you.

[pine ore]

no problem

[tiny quail]

for the first time in a while i got a working internet so i can actually play ron online

the first lobby i booted up into we finished rust belt in 5 minutes

we didn't even coordinate nor spoke a word in chat

just fucking john wick through it

[potent stratus]

I love the new TOC

The old one was good too, but the new one just sounds more lively

[sturdy cipher]

I'm having trouble keeping my team sane

[lost inlet]

stop incapping suspects, arrest them more

[potent stratus]

Get an easier mission, like gas station or Ends of the Earth and go full non lethal. This should lower their stress

[potent stratus]

Why the hell do I keep getting "unauthorised force" on suspects who were holding a hostage?

They are actively threating someone else's life after all

[obsidian hornet]

Bomb vest civilian had the infinite morale bug. I was forced to headshot them which somehow triggered the bomb vest and killed all of us. I lost one of my Nutritionists to this bug

[jolly verge]

Bomb vest will explode on death or torso shot. Softlocked civi with bomb vest caused by swat ai using broken vest check anim

[obsidian hornet]

Explain

I've killed plenty of The Hand with bombvests and they don't explode

[jolly verge]

Civi and suspects use different bomb vests, civi's one explode on death and torso shot, suspect's only when they pull the wire

[obsidian hornet]

What broken vest check animation were you talking about?

[jolly verge]

This one #1273359968401096836 message

[sturdy cipher]

thanks, and thanks @lost inlet

[lost inlet]

[grim forge]

How does one order a deploy of M320? I know I can do it when breaching a doorway but seems I cannot find how to do it out in the open?

[potent stratus]

breach -> use launcher, usually under number 5.
If you want to breach with C2 and Launcher, then open command menu on the door and go 3(breach)-3(C2)-5(launcher)

[jolly verge]

You cant order them to deploy launcher in open

only hand grenades

[obsidian hornet]

Oh my god that's so annoying...this should be a very high priority issue for them

[grim forge]

Bummer, I had my script on the works and everything for it...

[potent stratus]

Ahhh my bad, I thought he didn't know how to breach with them. Gotta read carefully next time

[grim forge]

I guess then the question is, when I get to open areas where there are long distances my less then lethal seems to be at great disadvantage. So my M320 bang has solved few of those situations, alas I have only 4 ammo. I wonder if there's another way to even the playing field in those moments if I can't order a long distance bang from my AI companions

[potent stratus]

Yeah I just used EotE for lowering stress too because I just completed the Elephant. It seems Elephant always raises stress, no matter how many you take alive. Little wonder to that.

[potent stratus]

Sadly you just gotta take cover and move into distance where your less lethals will be more effective. You're using beanbag or pepperball?

[grim forge]

My AI teams have one each but the pepper is not good, it doesn't have immediate impact, until it takes effect somebody is tanking half a mag, usually

[potent stratus]

Pepperball sucks in general, sometimes the suspects straight up ignore it until you dump the whole mag. Just use beanbag

[grim forge]

Yah, I figured the pepper is at least something to 50 yards +

[short hearth]

Adjusted comply animations to ensure the suspects' weapons do not point at the player.

Nice. I think we all shot the suspects the first time we saw that new sus animation. The classic Hollywood movie good guy "I'm dropping my gun, but not really!"

[grave crown]

maybe u shot the hostage

like hand or smt

[coral halo]

been awhile since ive played, has tear gas been improved at all?

[stone bay]

I don't really care about that task because I've already spent dozens of hours on it and couldn't finish, so I gave up

[broken torrent]

Dw i sit on it since 2 days

I miss when you could choose the Scenario on a Map like Active Shooter,Bomb thread,Hostage etc

[stone bay]

Honestly, when playing games like this, I find myself focusing more on the overall macro and micro management aspects, rather than stressing over that damn uncompleted achievement

I did complete that damn achievement, but it just won't unlock. I have no idea why, but whatever, I don't care anymore

[broken torrent]

wich one

[jolly verge]

If you mean that suspect didn't surrender in the gas smoke, then yes, it's fixed now

[broken torrent]

Coyote is Rust belt right?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[stone bay]

the Big Shell Specialist achievement

[broken torrent]

the big shell specialist if you also struggle hitting two headshots more then 30m away then you can simply arrest two suspects and place them as far away as you can and snipe them both, just don't do it with the SWAT Ai cause they will kill you for it.

Via reddit

[stone bay]

I never thought about doing it that way. I’ll give it a try

[broken torrent]

I'll try that too

[stone bay]

😂

[broken torrent]

I tweaked tf out yesterday because of the Western Achivment

[bitter mason]

seems good to me

[gusty pulsar]

are there any EXPERTS (tm) around that were able to recognize which complete outfits can be made with the cosmetic unlockables?

For example, some super obvious ones, are the two outfits you get in Dark Water or the HRT and Swat 99 outfit you get in the base game

But a less obvious one, i found its possible to 1:1 recreate the dutch DSI unit outfits, colors included

so i'm curious what other 'complete outfits' people have found/made, please share 😄

posted some pics of the DSI outfits here #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[broken torrent]

I think German BFE also

[gusty pulsar]

saw your pic, that looks cool, i'll try to put that one together also

[broken torrent]

We have a G-36, MP5 and Hk416 so arsenal fits

[broken torrent]

Very cool

[gusty pulsar]

good point about the weapons too, they complete the costumes just as much as the rest i would say. HK416 for example being really popular here, i even found pics of DSI guys with the internally suppressed one thats in the game

[split sandal]

What’s the hardest map to S tier on

[gusty pulsar]

hmmm i think it might be the post office

though i guess with a complete team all of them are pretty doable, especially using CS gas

ive been playing duo with a buddy and we had a really tough time dealing with the post sorting conveyor belt maze

the FISA agent is also a little spicy because he will sometimes take people hostage, so you gotta pacify him without beanbagging him in the forehead lol

[thorn egret]

Hey so since Helldivers 2 got a Killzone collaboration can we get a Breaking Bad crossover

[split sandal]

Yeah good point that map is insanely large

[restive ferry]

Post office. Back in 1.0 with the AI it was practically impossible

[split sandal]

The ai in the neon night club got damn good aim

[restive ferry]

I think it took me like 16 hours to S rank postal without losing a AI officer on postal 💀

[river tide]

cool

[restive ferry]

The AI was absolutely cracked back then. Pixel peek shooting you across the map through the conveyor belts

[void grove]

Man what the fuck

My guy just stood infront of a explosive after placing it on door

[restive ferry]

What was his stress level at

[void grove]

Its my second mission everyone was fine

now everyone is injured except me 🗿

[burnt quarry]

Question to the "Big Shell Specialist" Achievement: Do i become the Achievement during the Mission or do i need to complete the Mission?

[covert aurora]

It completes during

[broken torrent]

Hk416 is my Favorite 5.56x45 gun

Might serve with it

[spiral onyx]

hey, I have a question, since when doors can be trapped on 3 Letters Triad ?

I just watched a stream and a door was trapped... I did this level a lot of time before update, and i never saw a trap, did they add traps in this level since the last update ?

[spiral onyx]

Imagine doing it for the Ironman (without loosing any agent) achievement

[jolly verge]

Mods

[spiral onyx]

Oh okay, thanks, because i'm a no mod enjoyer and i didn't understand how it was possible (didn't know the streamer was using mods haha)

[spiral onyx]

1.0 -> Post Office

Since they nerfed AI on this map and with the last update, I think 3 Letters Triad can be hard if you are not a "veteran" of the game because you have a lot of open area. Or Idle of March because they are LOADED. (it's my opinion)

On the other hand, Elephant or Mirage at Sea can be hard to S rank because it's only rely on RNG because u need to arrest them (or Sah'id) before they (he) choose to shot civilians

[broken torrent]

Will there be more giveaways for supporter edition keys? i own RoN since 2022 and just discovered the dc server now

[tired jungle]

looks nice but other than that i'm not a fan

[midnight rampart]

THE UPDATE IS 60GB

are we able to fly the heli ourselves now like wtf?

[obsidian hornet]

I'm having issues with one team being unable to use anything other than Flashbangs despite having Stingers and Gas in their loadout. Anyone else?

Also I'm having another issue where, when queuing a command, ordering it to be executed results in the other team doing it instead

[gaunt gale]

The patch isn't 60gb, it's just patching 60gb worth of files

[gaunt gale]

It's very unlikely, I'm afriad.

[midnight rampart]

ah

i knew that
im definetly not just dumb

[gaunt gale]

Nop, you're not dumb. You just didn't know

Big difference fren

[midnight rampart]

👍 thank you fren

[obsidian hornet]

Bomb vests are so fucking stupid. You're clearing a room, meanwhile 3 of your teammates die because someone decided to fucking explode

Bomb vests feel too chance-based. It's annoying to have to restart because someone outside your control exploded. The Swat AI needs to be better at managing bomb vest adversaries

[gusty pulsar]

anyone else get progressively worse FPS as you play multiple rounds?

[amber dock]

What are you afraid of? Me?

[gaunt gale]

Lolno

[gaunt gale]

With AI, you can mitigate the explosion chance with pepperball guns since they only appear on specific maps

[blazing dagger]

Do you guys ever see Trailer units in game? I play career and multiplayer and have never seen them but devs continue to patch their behavior.

[midnight rampart]

they show up in quick play i belive

[blazing dagger]

only quick play??

[midnight rampart]

discorverd them by accident when i reported a random officer running around collecting bodies

[midnight rampart]

i think thats what someone told me

[jolly verge]

Yes

[gusty pulsar]

i was wondering the same thing, it made me even doubt if i understand what trailers means?

[midnight rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1289920373835694111

[gaunt gale]

It's shorthand for a unit that 'trails' behind the entry unit

[midnight rampart]

is that what they mean when they say notifying trailers

[gaunt gale]

[elder nova]

I didn't realize until more recently that the DLC didn't only add maps I can't play
but it added guns I can actually use without more money
and the G3A3 has been so nice to use
might be my new standard

[proud flame]

I can't clear S because AIteam use handguns too quickly.

[gaunt gale]

That's the balance we're trying to strike with our DLCs, give people that either don't want to or can't purchase our DLCs something to look forward to as well.

It is worth noting that if your online host has the DLC, you can play the new maps

[void grove]

How many slots do you have in game originally?

[amber dock]

Highest is 15 and lowest is 11???

[void grove]

Thats not good

[gaunt gale]

It's plenty though. :>

[amber dock]

I always have used 11 slots and it’s always been enough, the only map where I’ve gotten close to running out is on 3 letter triad. And that was also partially due to how slow the new hesitation animations are

So it more then enough unless you don’t know how to aim for shit

[void grove]

Somewhere along the way installing mods i increased my slot count and now i can't decrease it 🗿

[gaunt gale]

Ohhhhhh

If you lower it, you just won't be able to turn it back up again.

[void grove]

can't decrease it neither so i guess ill just live with it and not go above 15

[amber dock]

Also

How’s next patch coming along

[elder nova]

if someone's slow surrendering and I turn my back will they just stop surrendering?

one of my suspects just died because they tried to do that

[gaunt gale]

Some will fake surrender

[midnight rampart]

i use smgs with pistol callibres for targets like in the first mission, a couple of teenagers being stupid, rifle rounds out of '416s mostly for people a bit more prepared and i used to use .300 blackout for proper terrorists like in relapse and neon tomb, but now i use abttle rifles like the mk17 and g3, for me personally the m14 is a little long, so i mightgive that to the swat ai

[elder nova]

I am so close to completing Hide and Seek one man clearing I am not gonna let like 3 guys or something end it cause I got tunnelvision for 2 seconds

[wise tusk]

Anyone got an easier way to complete the "Big Shell Specialist" challenge I've been trying for over 3 hours to complete the achievement

I've attempted to find shots to take and move arrested suspects as far as physically possible however nothing is working, is the challenge bugged or is their a specific place and person that it needs to be.

[elder nova]

I saw a body, thought that spot must be clear
that spot was in fact not clear

[terse umbra]

Elephant….

[obsidian hornet]

Any mods that add belts with colored glowsticks? Trying to make it a bit easier to differentiate red team and blue team (I've already given them different uniforms, I just like having emissive colors)

[terse umbra]

I was like .5 seconds away from saving a suspect and went in the wrong room

[river tide]

because void isn’t as greedy as some games

cough cough paradox

[elder nova]

at least they aren't DCS World

you get two planes no one even knows about
the rest are paid DLC

wait nvm one of them is the Su-25T (which isn't much better as it's a dedicated anti-tank version of the Su-25)
some people know the frogfoot exists

[jolly tiger]

Has everyone’s RoN been updated today?

I’ve been stuck at 35% for over 20 mins now

[elder nova]

mine updated yesterday

[jolly tiger]

I swear every time RoN needs an update it’s so glitchy and shitty for me

[river tide]

the planes you start with aren’t even that bad, the ww2 one is super realistic and the su25 is very good for ag

and they never patched the free trial then making a new account feature even though a lot of people do it

[obsidian hornet]

Is it just me or is the MP7 seriously underrated?

[feral geyser]

Anyone know any tutorials on how to get started designing uniforms for RON?

[grim forge]

Seems my Steelseries GG Core is hanging at high process and power usage after closing RoN. This is an audio device controlling software but I'm guessing this has more to do with it's game video recoding side of the Steelseries GG. The software agent gets that little dot when it's recoding and after I close the game, or any game, it looses the recording mark. However RoN is the only game that after closing it for what ever reason Steelseries GG eats up 33% of my CPU and the power usage is marked as "Very High". I closed the game like 5mins ago and still it's spanking my machine. Did not find any lingering RoN related processes that I could easily recognize as RoN, nor any other process takes much CPU while I now linger at my desktop view. Known issue? Thanks for the tips, sorry for the flood.

So now it died down, it took about 5-10mins, this is happening often if not every time I exit the game.

[jolly verge]

It's meta smg, alongside with p90, only these guns have ammo that can pen level 3 armor and have very high stagger chance like rifle ammo

[obsidian hornet]

It also has really low recoil

[frail pier]

Silenced mp7 with pistol sights my beloved

[gusty pulsar]

Have devs commented on the Tarot and other spiritual/occult references in the game? If any are reading here, would you like to comment on it? 😄

[shy tulip]

You have to ask if the devs are in the room with us first

[gaunt gale]

👻

[primal yoke]

is the feature of being able to chuck cuffed people off the edge of the oil rig intentional

[gaunt gale]

It's sorta just something that was left up to the players

No need to stop you from doing because you're not supposed to do it, but you can if you want to

[elder nova]

does this harm the suspects?

[gaunt gale]

Only for a second.

[primal yoke]

brilliant

[gusty pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-orange-stewly-gif-14193106288143001787

[tawny burrow]

devs be cookin

[jolly tiger]

why are the only updates i have issues with on RoN no other game has any issues but when i update RoN its apain in the ass. 35% for over an hour now on a tiny update

[stone stump]

because the devs don't seem to playtest the game at all

pretty common thing to do, it's called testing in production (downloading issues aren't their fault though**)

[gaunt gale]

Ok Niv, knock it off

[gusty pulsar]

the beans will spill sooner or later >:))) there are so many of them it seems like more than just aesthetics / arbitrarily chosen

[gaunt gale]

That is genuinely a Steam issue, mostly because patching the UE .pak files takes longer than it should be on systems with HDDs and slower SSDs.

[jolly tiger]

lol

[jolly tiger]

gotcha

[gaunt gale]

It's not really something we can improve the speed of without increasing loading times across the board

[jolly tiger]

makes sense

[stone stump]

oh, it's about downloading issues... oops

[jolly tiger]

quick question whilst your here who runs RoN social media?

[gaunt gale]

Another member of our Marketing team, why d'ya ask?

[jolly tiger]

check my profile

[primal yoke]

ur not getting hired pal

[jolly tiger]

Was going to try and reach out but if you guys got it covered then...

[jolly tiger]

yeah if i had said the same about every other business i would never have got hired.

[lone cloud]

genuinely user error tbh ssds are dirt cheap (or were a little while ago they have kind of gone back up a little) literally just buy a decent ssd lol

[gaunt gale]

Unfortunately, given our size, we would've been looking for someone with notable experience with other studios or a marketing degree if we were hiring.
Our SMM is an awesome guy who actually used to work with Nintendo. :>

[stone stump]

nintendo has social media management?

[gaunt gale]

He handles a lot more than our Socials and puts up with my bullshit on a daily basis

[jolly tiger]

i sent you my portfolio in dms. I've worked with yarnhub animation studios and still work for them now. But its freelance so not on contract

the experience is all there + the results

[stone stump]

even some "decent" nvme drives have troubles with writes, it's really weird

[lone cloud]

well yeah if the "decent" nvme drives youre referring to lack an actual dram cache

[stone stump]

they actually do have one

[faint tangle]

yo why wont it let me scroll to cycle elements

[stone stump]

maybe half of your team is missing

[jolly tiger]

@gaunt gale sent some more in dms. Feel free to reach out if you change your mind!

[broken torrent]

Ohnein thats sad

[broken torrent]

Middle mousebutton?

[prime tundra]

Guys, does anyone know do achivment with 15 suspects in 15 seconds require to report them aslo or it will be enought just shoot them?

[broken torrent]

Sp there are no ways to get the FISA gear

[copper silo]

fisa goggles

[midnight rampart]

is home invasion required for dark waters?

[bitter mason]

nope

[midnight rampart]

good

[broken torrent]

No they are Separate

[river tide]

a mod being nice? wth this is once in a millennium

[tired jungle]

Kam is just getting paid to be nice

[river tide]

oh these are the paid mods here?

[tired jungle]

If that wasn't the case you'd just be called stupid

[river tide]

[tired jungle]

No.. yes

[gaunt gale]

I'm a lot more than a mod, excuse

[shy tulip]

I have no such paid weakness

[tired jungle]

Sure grandpa, sure. Now take your medicine

[gaunt gale]

[jolly tiger]

since new update i cant load into any games

ive restarted pc, verified file integrity

keep getting stuck at 98-100%

[river tide]

did you try going into safe mode?

[desert valve]

i think if devs would add on some maps like civvilian that has gun taped with flex or something to his hand this would be great mirror gun would be must have and it would be harder to decide if this is enemy or civilian

[minor slate]

that's a very good idea

[desert valve]

i mean you know rn if u breach door and see someone poiting gun at hall ur entering u shoot on sight,but think if tehere would be like taped civilian to one position with gun

and u need to decide shoot or not i belive it would add so much potentialk

[tired jungle]

After you just watched the dark knight

[river tide]

at the very least i want it to say to cuff a civilian unless they pull out a gun and not just say suspect even if we dont know that yet

[desert valve]

i didint watch it......

[tired jungle]

Watch it then

It's a good movie

[desert valve]

nice pfp man kinda not squished

[desert valve]

i belive it would add realism also ron got REALY GREAT LIGHTS ,so flashes that blink is also great idea i belive it would show u +- position of enemy but when he flash u i t would be hard to hit him so its balanced

like "stroboscop flashlight" is realy used irl by special forces etc

[tiny quail]

before this update, do you guys have that problem where if you turn on your flashlight for the first time after loading into the lobby/map, it'll just quickly shine bright and flashes you for half a second before returning back, seems to be fixed this update

[upbeat shore]

Yeah right..

[shadow ether]

Imagine needing medical help IRL because of an ingame tactic

[quasi gate]

Check that your actual storage space on your hard drive isn't over 98% usage. There's virtual memory used for UE5 that can cause issues running games in the new engine

[hidden rapids]

so i call fall in volls house i miss a suspect have too reload turn around and watch my swat ai leave out the front door whilest i get shot too death by a dude with a mpx

lovely swat ai innit

[glossy stirrup]

Is game fixed yet?

[upbeat shore]

Fixed in what sense for you?

[prime wing]

very loaded question

[covert aurora]

Loaded question indeed

[tacit gull]

but when are we getting baked questions

[covert aurora]

That is a good question. And one i cannot answer

Also

[north sparrow]

Guys, sorry to interrupt, but is anyone not able to control a specific team in singleplayer? I cant switch between blue or red elements, stuck at yellow

[covert aurora]

Normally you just scrollwheel. Also your not interrupting anything

[north sparrow]

Yea im scrolling my mouse wheel, still nothing changes

[modest sail]

Is anyone having issues trying to load into greased palms and it crashing or stuck on 0%? I tried with and without mods and it still doesnt work

[north sparrow]

no but ill try real quick

[modest sail]

Alright yeah I restarted the campaign and now It crashes or doesn't load up

[north sparrow]

i tried in quick play, loaded in normally

[modest sail]

gotcha

I'll try quick play

[north sparrow]

try verifying files, i used to have issues with valley of the dolls and relapse where id stutter right as i load into the map and then will crash. I had to reinstall the game

[modest sail]

dang alright I will try quick play

on quick play it goes to 2%

gotta verify :/

[covert aurora]

Weird..

Thats the first i heard of this

[north sparrow]

aight try that and lmk

[north sparrow]

yea suddenly happened, ill try removing mods

[modest sail]

It worked

[gusty fjord]

man I wish we had a gang war map

[modest sail]

I just needed to verify

[north sparrow]

Nice nicee, good stuff

this game always has me going through problems and lose my mind sometimes

[modest sail]

I wished they did more domestic maps like imo Home invasion should have been more domestic like break ins etc

[modest sail]

yeah no worries it happens haha

[north sparrow]

I think the maps are fine, u just do the same thing over and over its kinda boring after some time. It would be nice to have some scripted things to add to the map and story.

Or cinematics

[modest sail]

true I agree

[restive ferry]

They should put a rotisserie chicken in the game

[north sparrow]

So they have all those food models in the game and not a rotisserie chicken in?

[gusty fjord]

devs pls add a costco

[modest sail]

lol

[north sparrow]

Why costco in specific lool

[gusty fjord]

So I can buy some hotdogs

[shy tulip]

@plain osprey because of the double chunk chocolate cookie

[restive ferry]

RON should come with a Costco membership

[north sparrow]

Okay we can change gas for costco

[covert aurora]

Why not more 4 u gas?

[modest sail]

I wish they would add the halligan into the breaching options, weren't they going to at some point then just didn't?

[restive ferry]

Idk I’m more focused on them adding a rotisserie chicken

[north sparrow]

u got ur priorities right

[gusty fjord]

Using detective halligan for breaching is def police brutality

[modest sail]

lol

[swift verge]

I got a question do we have south america servers or is it only NA and EU

[covert aurora]

Theres no servers its peer to peer

(Sorry sinner)

[restive ferry]

Pear to pear 🍐

[covert aurora]

Green pears are best change my mind >:)

[restive ferry]

I haven’t ate a pear since 1973

[covert aurora]

🤨

[rose pumice]

WHY THEY CHANGED TOC VOICELINES!!!!?

Just why!?

Its been perfect

[fiery narwhal]

my fps on new maps are super low

[fiery narwhal]

the new one isnt that bad either

[rose pumice]

In my opinion its worse then old. Why we cant chose what TOC voice we want like we do this with ops?

[hazy badger]

im still having a problem with the colors and lights. everything is so bright but everything else is so dark you cant see. even on the menu

[amber dock]

Check if you have HDR enabled in windows settings

[hazy badger]

if i disable the hdr on monitor or in settings it takes some brightness away but its still not normal

[amber dock]

Send a picture in #💻tech-support

[hazy badger]

and the rest of the games i play are completly fine

ok got it thank you

didnt see the new update so hopefully that fixes it for me. weird jsut happened one day

[raven schooner]

I wish they actually added those PVS-5s from the promo image

[last oxide]

how do i stop my pointer from dragging the map around?

like once i place the (1) point and then place another, i get stuck to the map and i cant stop dragging it around

[lean pollen]

it sound like the person from FISA that try to take care the cargo'd human

voice change now dont work anymore even with replay enabled when playing solo/single

[timid siren]

alright so after about 20 attemps at carriers of the vine i fijnally beat it and thought id have a break.... fucking relapse dude. any tips? having trouble

it also doesnt help that the map scares the actual shit out of me

[amber dock]

Like relapse to medications?

[timid siren]

its so creepy and it keeps me jittery and my finger on the trigger

[amber dock]

Oh you mean the map relapse

[timid siren]

the hospital mission

[light stag]

Fu squad with SA58 or just any battle rifle

*full

[timid siren]

gotcha

how much will that help that

[amber dock]

SA 58 squad vs beanbag squad will be very different

[timid siren]

im not running a beanbag squad

[amber dock]

It will be easier with SA 58 squad cause the Ai are very trigger happy

[timid siren]

i see

[amber dock]

Just be prepared for loudness

So maybe lower volume

[timid siren]

nahhhh

[blazing eagle]

lethal or non lethal

[timid siren]

lethal

[blazing eagle]

take it slow

[tiny mountain]

C2 + wedges + SA 58

[timid siren]

hearing a lot abt the sa58