👮ron-discussion

[tacit gull]

If this update was the hesitation animations alone it would have been pretty good

[fleet talon]

sucks i gotta make a presest everytime but at least we all have nods now, thanks for the help👍

[tacit gull]

on top of that we also get the banger new maps and the new features

[jolly pasture]

Theres no way to disable it afaik for the built in controller

[shadow ether]

I like how suspect AI now nopes out of the encounter if they walk around the corner and see SWAT. They don't shoot, they don't surrender, they're just taking a stroll right back behind that wall and running the fuck away to an advantageous position because dudes with guns are here, oh hell naw

[tacit gull]

Literally this, it creates so much chaos

[jolly pasture]

Note that steam controller stays enabled

Also I tried that already, doesn't fix it

[tacit gull]

You can have people surrendering, running off, getting back up and unloading into you while you're watching their friend surrender it's so good

[umbral oar]

they fixed nvidia reflex setting 🤩

[shadow ether]

A very human reaction of "oh fuck no, I am not having this fight right now"

[umbral oar]

top tier update

[shy tulip]

What about the Steam settings tab version?

[jolly pasture]

Wdym

[shy tulip]

Steam library > top left Steam button > controller > disable all enables and check controller layouts

[jolly pasture]

Is this in desktop or game mode?

[shy tulip]

Desktop

[jolly pasture]

Can I dm you since I don't have image perms

[shadow ether]

I need to compile a list of things I feel are sorely missing from this wonderful SWAT game. Because I've been bellyaching about G3 here for months, and I got my G3, my SCAR-H, and even an MP5SD6 I never said I really wanted! That tells me I should keep going.

[shy tulip]

You can send it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[opal basin]

i like the animations themselves but they are terribly implemented

[jolly pasture]

@shy tulip works now all of a sudden

Weird but hey I'm not gonna complain

[opal basin]

also guys, anybody know why ron is crashing on startup on my laptop but not my pc? my laptop is windows 11 and my pc is windows 10

weird thing is that my laptop is better so it makes no sense

my pc has an i5-something, 8gb ram, gtx 1650. but my laptop has 32gb ram, i7-something, and a 4080

[shy tulip]

Unfortunately your laptop is a laptop

But it likely has nothing to do with OS

[opal basin]

does ron just not work on laptops

[shy tulip]

No, but laptops generally are worse compared to their stationary counterparts

[opal basin]

😭 i hate laptops so much, you cant even use them on your lap because of airflow. misleading name

[stable kernel]

Regular notebooks yes

Gaming ones no

[opal basin]

but its like so much better so wouldnt it cancel out

[amber dock]

ummmmmmmmmmmmm akshuallyyyyyyyyyy

[opal basin]

reason i wanna play ron on my laptop is because it has a 1tb drive and my pc has 256gb 😭 and my pc has other stuff installed

does ron just not run on laptops or is there a way to fix this

[lone cloud]

still emf on your balls

[opal basin]

the crash report didnt say anything but i went into the crash log and it said i believe something like GPU crash dump triggered, cant remember though

[jolly pasture]

Game runs great on steam deck once I got controls working

[astral warren]

there's plastic in them already, what harm can some emf do?

[fleet talon]

anyone have the damage spread sheet? cant findn which channel it was in

[shy tulip]

@crude prism

[opal basin]

but like does anyone know how to fix my laptop issue? when i look up GPU crash dump triggered its always for other games not RoN and its always during the game, but my thing is happening on startup when i press play on steam

[crude prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1471879539#gid=1471879539

[amber dock]

sus links, mods delete

[opal basin]

how is that a sus link

[stable kernel]

Sus damage calculations

[opal basin]

its literally the damage spreadsheet

[amber dock]

it's called sarcasm

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/furina-genshin-impact-suspicious-gif-9185201969323748657

[opal basin]

oh mb

[crude prism]

I'm stealink all ur data

[opal basin]

noooo you will find my judge in maid outfit pics

[tribal kayak]

What's the best channel when discussing Map ideas or controversial real life scenarios for SWAT?

[opal basin]

#1317213664616382566

[stable kernel]

#1050529506022137876

[delicate trench]

when will loadouts not saving be patched 🙏

[thorn latch]

Does anyone know where the evidence on the yacht is? I've collected the handgun and the body, but the game hasn't ended; it seems I'm still missing one piece of evidence.

[shy tulip]

Follow the blood trail away from the dead body

[round locust]

Does anyone know how to disable 1 and 2 as the reload keys? For some reason pressing 1 or 2 reloads their respective weapons and it gets me killed when they start rushing me

[shy tulip]

You could try rebinding it, but 1 and 2 are specifically for changing ammo types as well, hence the reload

but idk if people actually use it tbh

[charred meteor]

Just dont click the button when getting rushed frfr

[thorn latch]

Yes, I have already collected the hidden body, but the game hasn't ended automatically. I'm about to go crazy.

[shy tulip]

That's not what I said

Follow the blood trail away from the body.

[thorn latch]

Oh, damn, I didn't report the crime scene.

[shy tulip]

Easy to miss

[river tide]

no it works perfectly fine on mine

[round locust]

its not that, I tried to switch back to my weapon after throwing flash but it reloads for some reason

[tulip sun]

looked it up real quick before coming here, other ppls not able to equip phoenix flight suit?

i even tried using the unlock cosmetics mod, still nope

[jolly verge]

Complete Rust Belt for B grade

[shy tulip]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[tulip sun]

oohhh okok. thank you

[opal basin]

man if this is all you have to say then dont say it

[river tide]

what? you just asked if it worked on laptops or not and i said it works fine on mine

[opal basin]

i was asking for help with my issue

and you respond with "it works fine"

[full lion]

Uuuhhh I have an HR complaint. The therapist is conducting session in the meeting room ands its kinda awkward.

[river tide]

it was your words yourself "does ron not run on laptops" and i said it works for mine

[opal basin]

his office is being renovated, cant do anything for another month.

[opal basin]

oh my bad, i forgot to include the rest. if you scroll up you will see that i had an issue, but its not your fault i failed to include that in my message

[full lion]

Unacceptable. And someone needs to tell the guys in the locker room to keep their marital arguments at home

[median girder]

Kinda hard to confess I intentionally shot Amos Voll in the ass to the Therapist if it's out in public, I agree.

[opal basin]

unnaceptable? where else is he supposed to do it?

[full lion]

Seriously 😒 how am I supposed to talk about the trauma I have from all the war crimes I committed?

[median girder]

Fucking Hell, I found that secret room and used my mirror wand to look into it.|| Got jumpscared.||

[umbral oar]

is the lockpicking gun quieter than normal lockpicking

[lost inlet]

Does lock pick gun actually make no sound while normal lock pick does? Does lock pick in general even make any noises?

[vast folio]

Woah, the DLC maps are good. I just got around to play the first DLC too.

The outdoorsy Narcos seem to have taken lessons from maps like Greased Palms. The cover situation is much more sensible in the more open areas.

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone else not really a fan of most of the SMG's in the game? They don't feel viable to me, at least with JHP rounds (Brixley guards wear light vests underneath their shirts that take 4+ hits from a JHP MP5)

The P90 is REALLY good but like, it feels like the only meaningful SMG option in the game

[shy tulip]

They are the full auto option in-game but rely on you hitting heads or limbs

I love the MP5SD and use it to take out their legs

[vast folio]

I'm the opposite, I really love the SMGs in this game.

[obsidian hornet]

I tested the new MP5 in Brixley's with JHP and was just severely underwhelmed

[manic rose]

tf happened to toc's voice?????

[obsidian hornet]

some things I noticed:

1. It handles very well, camera movement is smooth

2. Easy to control recoil

3. Effective range is low (not a big deal in this game most of the time)

4. Very low stopping power against ANY level of armor unless you use AP

I mean, I think they're good options for unarmored suspects like in the gas station or Ends of the Earth

[vast folio]

You are not wrong there, I rarely use JHP on SMGs on any level.

But the easy to control recoil and good handling are things that make them fun to use.

[covert aurora]

They changed it

[obsidian hornet]

I typically use the MK18 with AP ammo. It's the jack of all trades. I only wanted to try JHP with an SMG for a change because I honestly got a bit bored of the MK18 (as much as I love it, I want a change once in a while)

And I was just underwhelmed.

[lost inlet]

Brixley map is filled with enemies using kevlar, JHP MP5 won’t take them out quickly

[obsidian hornet]

That's what I'm saying. It isn't even great armor. I'm just bored of defaulting to the AP MK18 on every mission that doesn't involve giga-geared goons

[lost inlet]

Fair, you could also use JHP with any .300 rifles and always 2 shots

[manic rose]

why tho

[covert aurora]

That idk

Maybe they couldnt get that va to do new lines

[vast folio]

What does the "livestream" thingy look like on the oil rig?

Can't seem to find it. It's just some random laptop somewhere?

[stable kernel]

In the same room as the pre tied up hostages

[vast folio]

Alright, thanks 😎

Ah, there it was.

[thorn latch]

I just tried to get an S rank on the third map of the DLC, and I feel it's really too difficult. Their equipment is so advanced, and there are so many of them. The map is like an ant nest.

[vast folio]

Did you experiment with the shot placement techniques when using JHP? I just started testing some stuff out. Mindjot guards drop real quick with SMG pelvic shots.

[obsidian hornet]

I just aimed center mass with each playtest.

Can anyone confirm if the Intimidator trait still works after gunfire has already begun?

[rocky kelp]

when is the training area coming back? I miss it

[delicate creek]

anyone have dark waters?

[stable kernel]

No, clearly

[crude prism]

It only works on suspects that are not alerted (if weapons are raised when you meet them, they are already alerted)

[umbral oar]

could i get a hint where the ||secret room in elysium|| is

[covert aurora]

Sure, in riddle look among the cracks, apon a wall i shall reveal

[obsidian hornet]

Is there a way to disable picture-in-picture scopes? Call me old fashioned but I MUCH prefer classic FPS-style scopes where the entire screen is magnified. I really, really hate PIP scopes

[obsidian hornet]

Ty

[midnight oak]

any tips to clear elephant? I cant for the life of me deal with all the hostages and find/disable the two bombs all in 10 minutes

[wooden wyvern]

shoot the bad guy

[dapper hornet]

Man, I really hope I get that Key for supporter edition despite my time here.

I regret refunding my copy 2 years ago cause I didn't know they would delist it. Lmao.
Was worried about performance.

They should really set up a Giveaway bot though like other servers have.
Where you click the 🎉 and it literally randomly selects people rather then just having to handpick.

[median girder]

Looking over at the ARG channel document, it seems like the next DLC involves snow?

[vast folio]

The pelvic shots are not effective against armored targets, as the body armor (at least on some suspects?) extend way into the pelvic / groin area. Bug, intended? No idea.

[covert aurora]

let me know if you need more hints 🙂

[vast folio]

Case and point, behold; Super ass!
[ removed ]

Small caliber resistant buttcheeks.

So (SMG) JHP's shining grace are limb and head shots, or wholly unarmored targets, which there are not many across all the levels.

I'll have to go back to Mindjot to see if those suspects are as well guarded down there, hehe.

Nope, the area below the torso armor is also protected by the same properties; mega groin: [ removed ]

So my success earlier must be attributed to thigh shots, not groin shots.

[median girder]

I have one major complain about the update though, it's hard to tell if someone is dead/surrendering now with the new animations.

[vast folio]

Why were my videos removed 😦

[median girder]

Kept wasting more than necessary amount of ammo because I thought they were still alive.

[red hull]

Any tips for solo clearing?

[vast folio]

Reuploaded at #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Removed again? Who is doing that, or is it automatic.

@covert aurora Seeing you are active here, can you check if my messages are removed on purpose as moderation action, or is automation doing something.

I just wanted to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of SMG JHP on pelvic shots. Shooting at pelvis is a genuine tactic employed by law enforcement IRL.

[stable kernel]

Review our rules

[jovial lagoon]

@covert aurora Finally found a way to do Sleeper Agent

[stable kernel]

And think for a moment why a video showcasing killing surrendered individuals might not be acceptable

[jovial lagoon]

And finished all my achievements

[covert aurora]

for any moderational questions please message toc.

[covert aurora]

awesome!

[summer sparrow]

Just got the dark water dlc how is it

[jovial lagoon]

Amazing, try it out

[vast folio]

Killing surrendered suspects never was the point, but it's a bit difficult to demonstrate the in-game mechanic on body armor coverage organically with suspects who are actively engaging the player. The 1.0 body armor mechanic experiments were done with friendly fire in the shooting range, but I don't see it as being objectionable content here. I don't agree with this take at all, but I'll refrain from posting them again.

[vast folio]

Summa summarum: Pelvic shots are not very effective, JHP shines on limb and head shots only, or against unarmored targets. Though it takes a lot more bullets to defeat armor, the suspect might still become disoriented before the point they lose all their HP, so it might not be as inefficient as the bullets-to-kill amount might suggest.

But it's definitely super hard to gauge that during a firefight, so I'd stick to body armor defeating ammo for body armor.

Unless you use bigger caliber rifles, of course.

[obsidian hornet]

It's just a demonstration

It's showing game mechanics. It's not sending any kind of message. That's your perception

[obsidian hornet]

Ty for the info

[stable kernel]

A demonstration that was not structured as feedback or education, and was not in the channel for doing so

You won't win arguing the rules

[vast folio]

It's alright, the video descriptions were ass the first time I posted them anyhow.

[obsidian hornet]

In that case I suppose it was a justified removal

[vast folio]

With no context attached.

[obsidian hornet]

Also I like the pfp eman

[vast folio]

But I swear, I was conducting tests, as you can hopefully see from the chat history on this channel 😄

[obsidian hornet]

Also from a game design standpoint it makes more sense. Because AP ammo would be less useful to the player if you can just aim at their balls lol

[obsidian hornet]

I understand where eman is coming from. As a mod you really don't want content to be misinterpreted - if someone talks shit, it's on your head as a mod. So context and structure is important.

[vast folio]

Yeah, especially when the original videos were labeled mega ass and super groin, with no context of that I was using the media channel to dump the videos so I could link them to you 😄

I was hoping the with-context message would have stayed up, but alas. I might make proper in-action videos at some point.

[obsidian hornet]

It is pretty funny though. Bro has Superman ass

[crude prism]

I swear I saw some RoN vids (at least the thumbnails) that were like "WHY AIMING AT THE GROIN IN RON IS SUPER EFFECTIVE"

and then totally ignore that the armor hitbox covers it XD

[crude prism]

they roughly look like this #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[vast folio]

Oh yeah! I'll have to watch the shot placement vid again, I think SixtyAteWhiskey made it. He's pretty active here too.

He also posted a review of the new DLC few hours ago!

Found it! https://youtu.be/cQekv1ZRHz4?si=LQ0jN6iUckq_ycz-

It's more an exploratory video on real life tactics using Ready or Not as a vehicle to do so. The one clear example of pelvis shot hits the thigh area.

[sick orbit]

Are the AI SWAT not arresting on commander mode for anyone else?

[vast folio]

If they are doing something specific, or can't get to the suspect / civ, they will refuse to arrest

If they are shouting at anyone, they won't do evidence collecting or arresting.

But for me, they are arresting peeps just fine.

[stone bay]

Same here, they arrest just fine.

[thorny quail]

how do you access the console?

[vast folio]

THOUGH, I noticed sometimes they go arrest someone, but the arrestee suddenly stands up, and does the surrender animation again. I found this disrupts the earlier arrest command, so they either have to figure out they have to arrest the perp again, or reissue the manual command.

[sick orbit]

Theyre ignoring suspects for me

but ill try something before i open a thread

[stone bay]

are they doing something or are clearing a room? Otherwise they should arrest them.

[crude prism]

classic RoN misinformation (happens)

[vast folio]

That said, take aim just a bit below the pelvis, and you're in gravy town with JHP SMGs 😉

Thighs are much better target than arms if not going for headshots.

Though the disadvantage to this is that limbs are very often behind objects, and you lose penetration with JHP.

[stone bay]

New DLC music kinda sounds like Cry of Fear OST

[vast folio]

Woot, I got TOC to say the "lead gone rogue" voiceline, yet my squad is still friendly.

Didn't even fail RoE or shoot civ.

[waxen grove]

isnt that theguy who was in the AMA?

[vast folio]

Not sure, I missed the AMA

[vast folio]

Wait, I think I hit a downed civ with stray bullet 😦 Map Greased Palms

[grim forge]

I've been trying to get an A+ for Valley of the Dolls. Seems eventually for being, eh, more patient with the suspects I end up getting killed over and over. So for the last 15mins I've been Googling what's the number of suspects I need to arrest to get to A+ until I can stop risking my "life" and just blast the rest. Haven't found a number so could anyone recommend a website that holds all this precise data on completion goals and needs?

[jolly verge]

There is no such site or data
A+ is 95% of max possible score, so you can kill ~6 suspects on this map, everything else must be done too

[grim forge]

Right, so instead of arresting to get to a target number I should try to avoid killing as much as possible and count them kills... Okay then, not my fave way to play but gotta have dem shorts. I kinda like the S in FPS in these games 🙂

[waxen grove]

is there any way to load into the old station?

[jolly verge]

DLC1 or like old one?

[waxen grove]

DLC1

[jolly verge]

type in console
open /Game/ReadyOrNot/Level/DLC_01_Home/DLC1_Station/Levels/Editable/RoN_Station_DLC01_Core

[waxen grove]

thanks

[waxen grove]

is the original unlocked one still there? the one from launch

[jolly verge]

Sure, type this
open /Game/ReadyOrNot/Level/RoN_Station/Levels/Editable/RoN_Station_Core

[shy tulip]

What about the DLC 4 station

[waxen grove]

thats the one from the campaign

[jolly verge]

Not sure what you mean then

[waxen grove]

at launch the campaign one was fully open in mulitplayer

[covert aurora]

yoinking this

[jolly verge]

It it's fully opened

Unless you have something with quick play progression, idk

[covert aurora]

i'm guessing going back to DW is open /Game/ReadyOrNot/Level/DLC_01_Home/DLC1_Station/Levels/Editable/RoN_Station_DLC02_Core ?

[waxen grove]

that doesnt exist

i havent found dlc2 station in files yet

[covert aurora]

ah ok

[waxen grove]

its somewhere

[jolly verge]

Nope, devs literally paste all dlc files into plugins folder, instead of normal Content one

[mental fable]

Hey just to ask, did Sahid executed one of his guards or Kelly killed the security guard to free herself?

[covert aurora]

ah ok

[covert aurora]

🤔 not actually sure

[waxen grove]

just attempted to go down stairs and was stopped by a rope. dispach also closed :/

[mental fable]

Also is there a civ that resembles Kelly Lawson? I wish the objectives should have came up like "find and rescue Kelly Lawson"

[covert aurora]

@waxen grove here's a question if someone was in my MP and i did say.... open /Game/ReadyOrNot/Level/RoN_Station/Levels/Editable/RoN_Station_Core would it load everyone into that station?

[jolly verge]

Have you pass every mission in quick play?

[waxen grove]

Nope but i just tried in multi

[waxen grove]

im in game atm if you wanna give it a shot

[covert aurora]

sure

let me see how i can join you

[waxen grove]

ah we dont have a server browser. so thats why the watchtower guy was so annoying

[covert aurora]

xD

that works!

xD

[jolly verge]

Wont do anything, you need another parameters for that, like this
servertravel /Game/ReadyOrNot/Level/RoN_Station/Levels/Editable/RoN_Station_Core?game=lobby

[waxen grove]

sent you a friend request, do you want me to join you or for you to join me?

[covert aurora]

ill join on you

[jolly verge]

But i used it only for LAN, so not sure if it's will work for steam p2p

[waxen grove]

doesnt hurt to try. worst thats gonna happen is we find a edge case bug

[covert aurora]

^

[waxen grove]

which ready or not is full of atm

i bet half of the preformance issues is some edge case erroring out in the background without a log

[covert aurora]

in go for broke

lost connection

[waxen grove]

did it kick you?

[covert aurora]

yeah

[waxen grove]

am i still hosting?

[covert aurora]

i think so.... It let me join you and then kicked me out

[fleet minnow]

FISA is now back in active service!

[obsidian hornet]

Anyone else enjoy using Optiwands on the AI? It's nice if you want to use a grenade launcher or a shield, and you can also condense the gaining of information by telling them to scout one door while you optiwand another door yourself.

One thing that is sorely missing though: They NEED to say how big or small the room is. Knowing the size of a room is a critical component in deciding how to breach the door.

[covert aurora]

i prefer breaching shotty

[waxen grove]

i stopped using the ai to opti after they failed to spot a trap

[covert aurora]

normally don't play with AI, mainly with friends

[mental fable]

Hey Linch, can beanbags penetrate through windows irl?

[vast folio]

Depends on the thickness of the glass and number of panes.

[waxen grove]

penetrate no, break maybe

i would assume it would go thud and break the window.

[vast folio]

Well, some houses in some areas might have windows thin enough for the beanbag to still carry some serious inertia.

[fleet minnow]

Most likely break the window and pass through with lesser speeds. Although it depends on how thick that window is.

[vast folio]

But, uh, how does one even enable console in the game?

[fleet minnow]

Console Unlocker mod.

[covert aurora]

That i do not know, as Stryker said, break maybe penetrate no

[waxen grove]

i was using ue4ss

[vast folio]

Aight, thanks!

[covert aurora]

???

🤨

[vast folio]

Oops, Discord bug, meant to reply to the message above.

[covert aurora]

all good

lol

[vast folio]

😎

[jolly verge]

Actually there easier way for all current stations
open RoN_Station_Core
open RoN_Station_DLC01_Core
open RoN_Station_DLC02_Core

[visual cedar]

How many possible locations are there for the body on the yacht? I’ve found the one in the closet, one in the kitchen fridge …

[covert aurora]

thanks Zeus!

ah, it apperes the Memorium and interview rooms are closed off

and records room

and the non-lethal section in training

[jolly verge]

I guess it's just depend on your quick play progression, i have everything opened

[covert aurora]

shrug

[dark mist]

The console needs a mod to use

Or how does that work

[covert aurora]

yeah, i use the cameraunlocker mod

is it me.... or is the lighting on the evidence really dark

[jolly verge]

Yeah, it's known bug

[covert aurora]

ok

[modest rapids]

Anyone know if for the sleeper agent achievement they have to be incapacitated or arrested and not dead? I am curious if killing them counts toward the achievement

[jolly verge]

You can kill them

[modest rapids]

Thank you

Any tips for getting the sleeper agent achievement?

[south flame]

Props to dev who thought of adding voiceline for shooting a helicopter lmao

[errant musk]

What are top 4 most expensive gun in game beside mk17 because I want to make my team look rich

[shy tulip]

All the weapons combined probably cost less than one set of gpnvgs

well, not all of the guns of course, the top four I mean

[median girder]

Well the SCAR-H would be enough to cost one GPNVGS.

And look, if a South Korean special operative can just lose a GPNVG, surely they aren't worth that much.

[wispy flame]

Hey, has anyone here been able to run RoN on the new intel b580? I wanna know if it runs well with this before i buy one.

[shadow ether]

P90 and FN Fiveseven
It's not about how expensive the guns are, but how rare and expensive the ammo is
Imagine five dudes mag dumping exclusively 5.7mm cartridges

[copper cypress]

Do any of you feel that the ALT+WASD method has been weakened?

[shadow ether]

I don't remember what that is, I remapped like half of my keybinds

[copper cypress]

Sometimes I didn't expose the middle of my torso and the suspect found me. Especially obvious at close range.

It seems like a lot of suspects have been buffed in this patch. At extremely close range, it seems to actively rush towards the player, even from next door ==

[covert furnace]

can you get an a+ with lethals?

or if an officer dies but is still reported, assuming ive done absolutely everything else right

[shadow ether]

With only lethals, I'm not sure, but we got a few with lethals and a few good grenades

[vocal night]

maybe in the elephant

technically you dont have to kill or incapacitate people with lethals but maybe that changed with the update

[jolly verge]

Each kill/incap will cost you 30 points, so you can get A+ only on few small maps like gas station, lethal obsession, elephant and mb end of the earth

[burnt quarry]

Do i need to Complete the maps at C+ for the Achievement oder can i be A or B?

[vocal night]

dont you want a high civ to suspect ratio?

[jolly verge]

What achievement?

[burnt quarry]

The Exploited, The Left Behind and so on

[jolly verge]

It's will count if you get higher grade

[burnt quarry]

Ok Thanks

[jolly verge]

Having more civis on map will help with score, but not that much

[eager holly]

wish we couldve be able to play the older maps

[gloomy thistle]

career mode when

[stone bay]

bro where is this fucking stream

[glacial quest]

why did the guy i used to report to change their voice/get replaced?

[shadow ether]

Because he talked shit to FISA, I think 🤔

[random garden]

ello

[obsidian hornet]

Some RoN streamers I watch have helmets on their AI teammates that have these lights on the back that depict their team color (this was before the current patch.) What helmet is this?

[stone bay]

I think it's all?

[covert aurora]

it's also on most vests

[bitter mason]

Theoretically you can get an s with lethals but for that you cant have killed or incapped anyone
Ive gotten A+ plenty of times taking lethals, its just using them as a last resort and relying on grenades and tasers to get arrests

[obsidian hornet]

It's not

[vast folio]

How to take control of large rooms using less lethal? Securing the warehouse in Greased Palms is driving me nuts.

Far away enemies take the attention of my SWAT dudes, yet they are not effective enough with less-lethal weapons to protect me if I want to arrest the suspects.

[stone bay]

c2

whatever the gas is

[vast folio]

If I fail to control the suspects who give up, they will stand up and attack again if I clear the whole room with my team.

[vast folio]

Using gas delays the giving up animation of the suspects by a huge margin.

I guess I could try spamming gas on the warehouse, and then using taser or something to get them out of the coughing animation.

[stone bay]

restrain them?

[acoustic terrace]

I have dark water DLC but I cant wear flight suit, is this bug or only for supporters?

[jolly verge]

Bug, you need complete Rust Belt for B grade to unlock it

[vast folio]

You can't restraint an enemy who is standing and coughing.

And FOR FUCKS SAKE, I just finished Greased Palms, and my useless SWAT AI KILLS the last guy with a sidearm!!

[stone bay]

you can taser them

or beanbag

[obsidian hornet]

I found it
It's the ERT Carbon and Kaiju SF helmets

[halcyon gyro]

Someone plz fix that fuckin bug where all your inventory reset for no reason, ffs

[vast folio]

Beanbag at least works poorly for this: #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[stone bay]

keep shooting until he goes down what

fill him with beanbags until he surrenders

[vast folio]

Man, what the HELL is this AI: #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

S-ranking these levels is ass fr 😅

Guy tanks C2 explosion, and doesn't get stunned by 2 melee hits.

All the while my SWAT AI guys let this guy past them as they filter into the room he escaped from.

[eager merlin]

where do i stop the livestream on leviathan

[vast folio]

In the hostage room, where the pre-bound civvies are.

There should be a mobile phone mounted on a stand and a laptop.

Recording the hostages and the drill.

[eager merlin]

wheres that

[vast folio]

Uhh, middle story, central building.

[eager merlin]

ty

maps a bit confusing lmfao

ty got it

[vast folio]

Nice 😎 Yeah, I guess it was the "Command Center" room on the map

[hollow veldt]

anyone having issues with missing evidence? seems guns just straight up disappear

[vast folio]

I was wondering the same thing, when my squadmates got stuck at activities like "Securing evidence; pick up P90" etc. but they wouldn't move. But I figured out all the evidence was already gathered, but I was missing soft objectives.

[hollow veldt]

ive S ranked every mission already so i dont think its anything like that

[regal wraith]

tbh i think it was a missed opportunity to make a night variant of rust belt as a homage to sicario

though tbh i think there would be a good dlc for that theme, after all there was joint operations in mexico with military and federal agents of america in mexico

though they usually get involved cause cartel took hostage and/or killed american citizens

[hollow veldt]

so far all the dlcs have been building up the ARG so who knows if that fits in at all

[regal wraith]

tbh there is obvious proof cartel is still kickin in narcos so i wonder if the dlc in the future will be part of all of that

we already have about 2 or 3 missions with eco terrorists, we already imo did the entirety of the child exploitation ring by cutting out voll, and we have yet to get fully into the human trafficking aspect iirc we only have two levels related to that, hokan and dealer

though tbh there is also a missed opportunity to have something inspired by the beast from sicario which is the track that plays when they are raiding the tunnel

[hollow veldt]

one day the MLO will fully appear 😔

[regal wraith]

indeed

after all its one of the ogs of ready or not, all the way back when it was a tiny pvp game iirc

[hollow veldt]

yep

they are being heavily built up lorewise within the arg stuff and map secrets tho so they are still important

[regal wraith]

mhm i hope that void adds more than 4 dlcs, alot of games oftentime just release up to 4 dlcs and that is the last of the dlcs

[hollow veldt]

next things a free update iirc hopefully it includes maps i think itll be a bit of a detriment to the game if the only way to experience new content is to pay

[regal wraith]

tbh what they can do is release singular maps occasionally, maybe variants of already existing maps

games sometimes do fill in inter dlc periods with maybe some smaller maps and variant maps

though im surprised nobody made a night variant of rust belt yet, the mod community i mean

change skybox and add lighting fitting to the map and there

after all we do need more maps that support the nvgs

oh lemme just say its not ron related but one thing i heavily criticize mw2 2022 for in the campaign is not showing the reality of brutality of cartels

its one of the reasons why sicario was praised so much and of course ready or not definitely showed that in narcos and i hope they move up on it

[hollow veldt]

cod is military propaganda that very rarely shows anything as is

[regal wraith]

well World at war took a different term to all of it

they actually showed a extent of brutality in the eastern front and pacific theater

[frail wind]

Anybody having the bug where your loadout doesnt save and returns to the default?

[hollow veldt]

thats different tho, theyve switched up real US crimes to be le evil russians numerous times

[regal wraith]

tbh, both sides done brutal things, thats the reality of war, when you face such a enemy sometimes to combat them effectively you gotta stoop to their level

[hollow veldt]

nothing excuses war crimes???? wtf

[regal wraith]

i never said it did

im just saying the reality of it, war is not this black and white thing

[jolly verge]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[hollow veldt]

yeah obviously but switching up history to make a certain country look better is just fucked hence why cod is US propaganda

[regal wraith]

idk about that one, mw2 has a literal general using merc groups to assassinate and kill a multinational task force he created

in fact he killed two of those member himself

[hollow veldt]

cod rewrote highway of death, mkultra, the use of chemical weapons on civilians etc to be eastern countries when the US did all of it irl

you can still like the games, i enjoy some of them but they are undeniably so pro US its just funny

[regal wraith]

not entirely, they do use lethal chemical gas on civilians, neither do they use white phosphorus on civilians, but thing is once you drop that load what happens is out of your hands, sadly its a unfortunate reality that civilians are caught between that

also black ops didnt rewrite mkultra, cold war proves that

[hollow veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6mW6dPYSU4

watch this video itll show what im talking about

[brittle swan]

why did they nerf gas so hard tho

[regal wraith]

first off, sdif isnt propoganda, them eventually adding iraqi forces prove that

that same logic can be applied to ready or not being "copoganda"

just cause it shows one side of it doesnt mean its propoganda

[hollow veldt]

its not showing one side, its historical revisionism

those are 2 different things entirely

[regal wraith]

not really?

[hollow veldt]

do you know what historical revisionism means

[regal wraith]

its not revisionism to show that 4 guys get torched, burnt, dismembered, and decapitated and then hanged on a tressle of a bridge

[hollow veldt]

??? what are you even talking about anymore

[regal wraith]

six days in fallujah, of which the video seems to mention

its in the description of the video man

[hollow veldt]

you havent watched the video, not enough time has passed LMAO

[regal wraith]

i look at the description of every video i watch man

to get a idea and general basis of what they are talking about before watching the video

[hollow veldt]

the crux of my argument and what im trying to get across that rewriting real life US war crimes as no longer being committed by them is harmful historical revisionism that is hella propaganda its not about sides or horrors of war or any of that shit

so expecting cod to make their games accurate at all is silly

[regal wraith]

i never said they were accurate

also the highway of death was a military target those fellas just got done with a battle on the us, and were fleeing to regroup

which people fail to realize that regrouping means they are coming back

retreating means they arent

we know that all too well from vietnam if the enemy is seen running away, it oftentimes means they are regrouping with more men

and women in some rare cases

i can name a case where that was the situation

apache in vietnam

her idea was to silent capture a us soldier in a firebase watching the perimeter and torture him, because she knew it would invoke a response, so then she let him ago and ran off to regroup, but what she didnt know is that it want a full force in response but rather a singular person, which we know is carlo hathcock

[amber hearth]

whats the two hole??? on the top of USP's slide?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061337419842080860/1317481393860776029/image.png?ex=675ed7a9&is=675d8629&hm=84d8dd516a6c5cff83d0d61e38133fc4c2d3f20854f3eea59d056115978dda0c&

[potent stratus]

I honestly wonder if the new features (weapon caches, new suspect behaviors and switching scenarios) will be added to base game maps

[cursive minnow]

Weapon caches idk about but I'm pretty sure they eluded to that being the case with the suspect behavior and I honestly wouldn't see why they would only keep the new suspect behaviors restricted to DLC maps only.

[sharp whale]

Is the school raid mission a dlc?

[chilly axle]

The maple school yes

[sharp whale]

That’s 💩

Thanks but

[cursive minnow]

No there's a map in the base game called Elephant but that's a community college. And maple school is a mod not DLC.

[sharp whale]

Thanks mate. Just getting into it and seen the school shooter one on YouTube, but couldn’t find it on the game anywhere

How long you all been playing it. Ik it’s only a year old but

[cursive minnow]

What's a year old the game? because this game has been around for years just was in early access before the game went into full 1.0 release a year ago. Anyways I have 1810 hours.

[sharp whale]

I wasn’t talking about the early access, I mean full release. And nice

[chilly axle]

Need help in modding chat thx?

[cursive minnow]

Well you kind of have to include it since those hours weren't just on 1.0 gameplay. I have another 32 hours on a separate older branch of the game before it got switched over to the current branch.

[sharp whale]

I technically don’t have to include it, and I didn’t

[willow cipher]

Any advice on how to get 5 Arrests on 3 Letter Triad?

[potent stratus]

carry a taser

[cursive minnow]

Yea I just used taser and flashbangs

[potent stratus]

andhave two negotiators on your team

[robust oxide]

guys please help

My FPS keeping up and down

from 140 to 2FPS

and then the game crushed

whether I move or not

has anyone ever encountered same problem

[grave crown]

fps is super low in New dlc map for some reason

[robust oxide]

yeah，sometimes 140，sometimes only 2，the frame number fluctuates more than 100，just like flipping through PPT

Not only in DLC maps，same at the police station, even game menu

[tired jungle]

Weird

I haven't experienced that, even tho the base maps run at a very stable 140-170 ish across a whole level

[mighty bear]

Did the Devs fix any of the SWAT AI in this recent update?

It's the only thing I'm waiting for before coming back lol

[chilly axle]

Those AI still broken huh

[ivory sage]

is dx12 still broken or did they fix its performance issues

[tired jungle]

the best dx version for you to use depends on what hardware you have

[loud crescent]

fun fact: if a suspect is slow-surrendering (where, half the time, it's a trick)
you can just bash them or shoot them with less-lethals and get them to properly surrender without breaking ROE

[south flame]

Remove all their pistol mags in loadout.

I think they will sometimes try to switch to empty pistol during fight if they ran out of primary weapon ammo during fight.

[loud crescent]

that's correct, if they're out of primary (or they need to reload while under fire, i think?) they'll swap to secondary
having no secondary ammo means they won't fuck up your S-ranks

[median girder]

Does anyone know which section of the evidence room is where all the "3 Letter Triad" map stuff is?

[vast folio]

This was the second time I assigned the less lethal loadout I use to the bots, where I have 1 mag in the sidearm for breaking windows on some levels, and forgetting the fact 😅

Learning from this, I just made AI loadout without sidearm ammo.

[elder nova]

is it a bug when they take like 20 seconds to put a gun down?

I just got unauthorized use of force for someone who literally wasn't surrendering
like before the update that wasn't so ambiguous

[south flame]

I think it's just new slow surrendering feature. Kinda sucks when you have to watch him forever

There were some behaviour changes in enemies that I noticed

[elder nova]

some of them I really liked, but some of them make roe more like an excuse for the suspect's family to use
maybe if they weren't pointing a gun at me, they wouldn't be having a funeral

that was too edgy, bad wording, but roe seriously gets annoying when someone has a gun pointed at me
and shooting them is unauthorized

[south flame]

I feel like unothorized use of force shouldn't apply when their gun is aiming towards you. Just because game knows they're gonna surrender doesn't mean you know.

[keen stratus]

white phosphor not work online

[south flame]

The NVG option?

[mighty bear]

So the SWAT AI is still not fixed after this update?

[elder nova]

this, yes, mainly this
the game knows what the suspects are doing
but I don't
and I'm getting punished for some number in a black box being a 1 instead of a 0

[keen stratus]

ye

[south flame]

Worked fine for me yesterday when I played with a friend

[elder nova]

I love when SWAT AI will spend like 12 beanbags total and not hit a single target
but suffer multiple losses in 23 mg/s

[mighty bear]

SWAT AI should be made priority over literally everything else, it's the only thing holding me back from playing again. I'm starting to feel like Void is releasing DLC just to get more money from new players, and leave the more experienced players behind because if they focus on fixing the game, it won't garner as much money

[elder nova]

I wish they'd release new content for the base game instead of making all new content behind another paywall
but I guess they updated GPNVGs to actually be quads, so that's pretty cool

[mighty bear]

Yeah Void has been coming across as very scummy over the past couple years with how much they take pride in being the successor of SWAT 4, but can't even resolve the AI issues that a game 20 years ago fixed

[lost inlet]

boid can't decide if they want to be hardcore shooter, milsim or swatsim

[mighty bear]

They could go the classic PVP route, that would at least make a lot of other people happy, but then it's not much of a SWAT 4 successor

[elder nova]

there's already Zero Hour for that

[mighty bear]

I love the game too, which is why this sucks that they don't care to cater to the veteran playerbase that stuck around for so long

[elder nova]

but zero hour is dead because apparently no one actually wanted pvp swat

[south flame]

I might be biased cuz I do own both dlcs but it's much better system than most other games have. It's true that you can't play new maps in singleplayer but you can play them in multiplayer. Only thing you can't are cosmetics. Depending on who cares about them.

[amber hearth]

why cant we open the uhhh helicopter twitch streaming and just play the game why should watch the video while hiding in a corner like bruh

is this some kinda hidden message from the devs, like 'dont watch video on your phone while you're doing some combat' wtf

[elder nova]

they also updated the civilian AI to be as much as a life-threatening nuisance as possible
instead of surrendering, they require you go up and physically assault them, exposing your position and theirs to enemy fire

because we all know, when caught in cross-fire between SWAT and terrorists, it's best to stand your ground straight up in the middle until SWAT has to pull back
because you'll never get taken hostage

[mighty bear]

Lol so much for realism I guess

[karmic niche]

Gotta hit em with a slug🗣

[mighty bear]

I'm convinced this game was made only to be played for 10 hours

[elder nova]

to be fair I'm trying to one-man-clear all of Hide and Seek, which you'd probably see at least a nine-man squad for
so the realism wasn't there to begin with

[mighty bear]

Oh lol true, the one man missions are tense but seems to be the better way of playing the game. My own SWAT AI will get me killed

[karmic niche]

Gotta love how they can't hit they're shots unless it's some dude your trying to arrest

[elder nova]

true, but what else is there?
CQB is the only skillset in an FPS I feel at home in
but it's only a minuscule part of the Squad experience
zero hour is dead and honestly not as good anyway (even worse AI)
and no other FPS games really seem to match the tactical element without costing $140 (I'm specifically referring to tarkov)

[mighty bear]

Yeah not many mil sim games cater to CQB engagements unfortunately

[karmic niche]

Fuck tarkov 😭

Shits too expensive

[elder nova]

if I had the money I'd be playing it
other than that, too expensive, shit toxic devs, honestly fuck tarkov

[mighty bear]

Honestly at this point i've been milsim'ing my GMOD to have fun lol

[karmic niche]

Arma reforger is decent

[mighty bear]

I wonder if their are any good SWAT AI mods

[elder nova]

I quite like reforger but none of my friends will buy it to play with me (just like RoN)

[karmic niche]

Shittyyy

(Kill them🤭)

[stone bay]

Meow

[karmic niche]

Meow

[stone bay]

Meow

[karmic niche]

Meow

[stone bay]

Meow

[karmic niche]

Meow

[stone bay]

Meow

[elder nova]

mrrp

[karmic niche]

Meow

[stone bay]

He broke the meow chain

[karmic niche]

Kill him

[stone bay]

TOC to Element, vaporize this man

[elder nova]

bark bark woof woof

[karmic niche]

Element, set up the crucifix.

[stone bay]

Element, this is TOC, orbital strike incoming

[elder nova]

your cruwucifix means nothing to me

[stone bay]

https://tenor.com/view/atf2-gif-19111110

[karmic niche]

TOC To entry team, Degenerates like you belong a cross.

(goated if you get the reference)

[elder nova]

damn I don't get it

[karmic niche]

😭

[elder nova]

I looked it up and it's something someone from Fallout 3 said
I never played any of the fallout games

[karmic niche]

It's a FNV reference

[elder nova]

or fnv the video said the game was fallout 3
but youtube can be kinda stupid at times

[karmic niche]

It's a Fallout new vegas reference the legionarys will randomly say that to you

[elder nova]

the one thing I know about fallout is that one of the factions is deliberately meant to make fun of anti-communist propaganda

[stone bay]

Fallout 3 is blue, Fallout 4 is green and FNV is yellow

[stone bay]

Get boosted lmao

[arctic pine]

That's a lot of tuah in ur name

[elder nova]

the game card where it's supposed to say what game is being played said "Fallout 3"
but I found multiple other references confirming the clip actually came from fnv

[stone bay]

Sir, I diagnose you with reading comprehension

[arctic pine]

Will I make it doc?

[stone bay]

ikik

[gilded oar]

wow I actually see the AI now take cover while in firefights a often since the update

[stone bay]

You'll make the most of it it seems. Clear house and we'll take you in.

[elder nova]

I wish the civilian AI had more survival instincts
but I guess their brains aren't as developed as suspects
as we all know, brain development is stunted until you acquire a gun

[gilded oar]

yeah civs do need get some brain cells too other then hiding in corners and being taken hostage.

[stone bay]

The paramedics are on standby and will take them in once the scene is clear.

[elder nova]

nah civs I deal with stand in the open, in the cross-fire, and refuse to surrender with guns pointed at their heads, and ignore warning shots at the floor next to their feet

[stone bay]

Fr, just don't go to questionable night clubs, get some brains

[gilded oar]

uh UH

we'll see about that

[elder nova]

when I hear there's shootings going on everywhere
I will definitely be hitting the club nightly

[gilded oar]

which club

[elder nova]

idek
the closest I even know about is area 15 in vegas but I don't think that counts

closest as in closest to a night club
I've never been to any in my life
much less an adjacent in my own state

[stone bay]

have you seen the movie called 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels'?

[gilded oar]

no

[stone bay]

Search up 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels Listen to this one then; you open a company called the'

[gilded oar]

I see

[stone bay]

Now yuo see...

[gilded oar]

very interesting content

[stone bay]

I fucking love Guy Ritchie

[eager holly]

add ak 12 pls

[gilded oar]

no

THIS IS AMRICA 🦅 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅

[stone bay]

ADD THE FUCKING SIG 553 I BEG OF YOU

[elder nova]

they should add another MP5 as well

[karmic niche]

I wanna know which US law enforcement agency uses the ak12

[gilded oar]

approved

[karmic niche]

@balmy narwhal w

[balmy narwhal]

Huh

[stone bay]

CIA SAD

[balmy narwhal]

Oh lmao, totally forgot people can see when you boost

[elder nova]

instead of AK-12
KR-12

[karmic niche]

The CIA isn't a fucking law enforcement agency 💀💀💀

[sonic sorrel]

CIA is a cutie pie

[summer drift]

So. Loadout suggestions? Im new to the game

[karmic niche]

It's an intelligence Agency

[elder nova]

damn KR-12 doesn't actually exist
no american-made kalashnikovs

[balmy narwhal]

Run whatever honestly a lot of the guns are fun and unique in there own way

[stone bay]

Get the gunfighter mod, 11 mags, all APs, then either flasbangs or frags depending on preference, C2, breaching shothgun, mirrorun - depending on the rest of the squad and a map

[karmic niche]

When the CIA gives you a Toyota hilux and 7 akms and flight training

[stone bay]

They do enforce law in a way

[balmy narwhal]

Second this, the gunfighter mod is a must have tbh

[hazy token]

yes

[karmic niche]

😭💀

[summer drift]

I mean, i hear that Police in the northern parts of Alaska use AKs for its durability in the cold

[gilded oar]

**SPECIFIC **way

[stone bay]

Yeah, especially for huge maps with lots of wome-

[hazy token]

they have no law enforcement powers within the US

[gilded oar]

sus

[balmy narwhal]

BRUHHHHH

[karmic niche]

Why has VOID interactive said multiple times "handcuff man to a women" or something along that line

[stone bay]

Unless they get an idealist middle aged FBI officer to work with them given she signs a paper that they didn't break the law

[hazy token]

perhaps they have dual agency but CIA officers themselves have no enforcement power

[elder nova]

I love AKs
I wish I had an AK-74M
an AK-104 would be even better
but like America doesn't seem to like Russia very much
because of outdated propaganda
and because their current neoliberal isn't the neoliberal we had on a leash in 1993

[karmic niche]

✅️

[balmy narwhal]

ATF ENTERS THE CHAT

[stone bay]

Well you know how it goes, they have as much power as they need at the moment

[karmic niche]

LETS FUCKING KILL PUPPIES

[hazy token]

like you said, there are always workarounds lol

[stone bay]

SIR I CAN EXPLAIN THIS COAT HANGER IS FOR ILLEGAL ABORTIONS I SWEAR I WAS NOT PUTTING IT INSIDE MY RECEIVER

[karmic niche]

Yall know the USPS has its own law enforcement agency?

[balmy narwhal]

Whaaaaa

[karmic niche]

Yup

Shits wild

[balmy narwhal]

I’m going to sleep, I just remembered I have work tonight

[stone bay]

Dude if you love AKs join us whining about how much we want to see a SIG SG 551 or 553 in the game, there are even AR-15 mag lowers for them

[karmic niche]

Have a good shift

[stone bay]

Yeah, the postal polcie that will execute you for forging postal stamps

[stone bay]

more like paid slavery, gn broski

[balmy narwhal]

But I think I’m gonna host a sessions of playing the missions in order tomorrow if any of yalll are gonna be on in the morning

[karmic niche]

Or using a alternative mail service for non vital mail

[elder nova]

I've never actually seen those guns or used them in any games so I don't know anything about them
I should look them up, they could be very interesting

[balmy narwhal]

It’s sooo true, overnight stocking at Walmart is annoying as hell

[stone bay]

Trust me, once I DM you with SIG shitpost your brain will be altered forever

[balmy narwhal]

Appreciate ya

[stone bay]

I FUCKING LOVE NIGHT SHIFTS

[elder nova]

bet

[balmy narwhal]

Graveyard shift baby, I just put both my AirPods in and blast my metalcore music all night and lock in

[karmic niche]

🫡

[balmy narwhal]

Curse at cans and boxes once and awhile

[tough parrot]

@fossil palm why you stealin my giveaway entry post

[safe turret]

Recently got back into pc gaming and just got this game I was wondering what type of mouse is good for this type of game .

[balmy narwhal]

Uhhhh, a mouse

[karmic niche]

Use a controller shits gas

[balmy narwhal]

I noticed they added native controller support big W

[karmic niche]

Fr it's so nice

[balmy narwhal]

I still prefer M&K just feels better

[karmic niche]

Yeah it really just comes down to muscle memory

I'm more used to console so it's easier for me

[balmy narwhal]

I would’ve used it earlier but you lost a lot of the controls

[karmic niche]

Yeah now you can so just about everything the same just can't order AI around

[balmy narwhal]

And I just got used to the keyboard and mouse for everything, but yea same I’ve been playing console since PS2 I’ve only had my pc for like a year and a half I think

[karmic niche]

Well you can actually just not selecting specific teams

[balmy narwhal]

Yea I like having the full control of the teams

[karmic niche]

I just got mine owned ready or not for months tho

[stone bay]

A computer mouse would be great, otherwise Apodemus agrarius would be great
I use 0.27 ingame setting paired with the pink dpi setting

[balmy narwhal]

Especially queue breaches on different doors with red and blue team

[karmic niche]

💯

[balmy narwhal]

It’s sooo satisfying

[karmic niche]

Makes it feel more Immersive

That's why I like the vibration on the controllers

[balmy narwhal]

I got to make it happen I was using the helicopter cam on 3 letter triad and I had my guys breach a room and saw them take a guy out from that view

[karmic niche]

That's sick asf

[balmy narwhal]

Sick as hell but hard to get it done

Alright enough yapping, I’ll be hosting that session in here tomorrow around this time so if you wanna join I’ll be on. Take it easy 🤝🏻

[karmic niche]

Sick, you take it easy aswell man get some rest and have a good shift👍

[stone bay]

ping me

[karmic niche]

Same here lol

[stone bay]

meow

[balmy narwhal]

Here I’ll add you both so I remember

Night boys

[karmic niche]

Night

[stone bay]

I added you first L + ratio

nighty night

[karmic niche]

💀

[balmy narwhal]

Oh heads up, I’ll be running gunfighter and probably a AI mod, idk which one yet

[stone bay]

Gunfighter already updated?

[balmy narwhal]

Yessir

[rare estuary]

Very nice dlc

[worldly ridge]

shoot streamer
shoot brother
shoot mother

"Score one for the good guys." -TOC

[stone bay]

your pfp is me ine few hours

[stone bay]

Aren't u supposed to be eepy-neepy

[balmy narwhal]

Yep, I’m going right now

[stone bay]

GO FASTER!!!11!!!!!1!!!!!!!!

[worldly ridge]

Apparently you're going to sleep as fast as the suspect surrender animation

[stone bay]

[jolly tiger]

anyone else got the issue where u cant change ur teams loadout?

[stone bay]

nie

[worldly ridge]

Nope. How do you guys get that?

I only get that issue for cosmetics, but I can "fix" that by clicking and changing something else first (then back to what I want)

Maybe that works for the loadout too?

If you want to change primary, change secondary first then primary?

Preset loadouts work 100% so far

[wheat zealot]

legit was just about to say that

[jolly verge]

Save preset for every officer #❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[wheat zealot]

thats annoying

[worldly ridge]

Different topic, I love how easy to control the new 7.62x51 guns are

[deep crow]

Hi I just started playing the game I might need some help if anyone wants to do a operation together

[jolly tiger]

thats so stupid why did they add that

[jolly verge]

They did not, it's just a bug

[void grove]

When was the last update?

[worldly ridge]

A few days ago with DLC2

[lost inlet]

hmmm... i recognize your pfp

[sonic nexus]

do I need to finish the mission to get sleeper agent?

[jolly verge]

Nope, you get it right after 15th kill

[sonic nexus]

i think the 15s is counted weirdly there is no way

[void grove]

When is next bug fix update?

[worldly ridge]

ask the devs

[void grove]

Where

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think the suspect has changed from only shooting when he sees the middle of the player's torso to shooting when he sees the chest?

Using ALT+WASD no longer seems to be a completely safe method….

[crisp gust]

Can we add kill streak and nukes to ready or not

10 kills gets you a sentry turret

[magic hearth]

[marsh vapor]

Did the G36C Get nerfed?

[jolly verge]

What you mean exactly by nerf?

[marsh vapor]

It feels like it does less damage.

[rocky plover]

slow rof

[jolly verge]

Damage based on caliber, not weapon

Nothing was changed regarding damage/health

[marsh vapor]

K

[lost inlet]

beside the AK, which guns did get nerfed?

[worldly ridge]

The AK got nerfed?

Not like it was an amazing weapon anyway

[jolly verge]

There was no nerfs as i'm aware, they did not even fix angle recoil thing on ARWC

[amber hearth]

the game is AR15 propaganda anyway

[worldly ridge]

Yea I can't see anything in the patch notes

[worldly ridge]

Don't forget AR-18 😛

[lost inlet]

AK got a different recoil, the bolt kicks back a lot harder now

[worldly ridge]

G36C, EF88, MCX, BRN-18, SCAR are all based on the AR-18 system.
HK 416 is halfway there

LVAR too, now that I think about it.

If you want to say "X propaganda" might as well go H&K.
MP5, MP5, MP5/10, MP5SD, UMP-9, UMP-45, G51, G3, HK416, USP-45, MP7

[amber hearth]

gun propaganda

[worldly ridge]

I want an AMD-65 in game that adds the stinger grenade effect on anyone standing nearby if fired full auto.

[amber hearth]

was it hungarian AK

[worldly ridge]

Yep

Originally made for "dessant" troops (aka amphibious/paratrooper) hence the folding wire stock and shorter barrel

[amber hearth]

sexy foregrip

[worldly ridge]

Then they went "yo, this shit is cheaper than wood AK, make it the standard issue"

[amber hearth]

whats the point of

circumsized bullets (gameplay wise)

[worldly ridge]

What?

[amber hearth]

circumsized rounds

[lost inlet]

that's a thing?

[worldly ridge]

I've never heard that term before

[amber hearth]

i made that up

[worldly ridge]

Thank fuck, I was afraid for a second

[amber hearth]

hollow point.

circumsized bullets

[worldly ridge]

Ah. More dmg on unarmored parts AFAIK. Also less pen, so maybe less "oh shit what was on the other side of the wall" moments if you miss

[amber hearth]

ah right overpen

cant really feel the difference tbh

[worldly ridge]

I just roll 7.62x51 ball ammo, so IDK

No, I will not call it .308, they are different.

[dapper hornet]

We should get a freeroam mode where you play with 4 other people as street cops and do randomly generated tasks. Lol
Like, a small section of Los Suenos to explore.
Respond to calls like armed robbery, traffic violations where you write tickets or arrest for wreaklessness, shootouts, gang activity, and traffic stops where you help search marked cars for drugs or weapons and cuff people to arrest them.

[jolly verge]

There was no changes in recoil stats, i just checked files, everything is the same

[worldly ridge]

That's just GTA Online RP

[stone bay]

IS THIS SNAKE

[lost inlet]

think it's called the muzzle kick, somewhat like what the 416 has

[dapper hornet]

More like LA Noire mixed with SWAT, but first person and less of a massive map.
Moreso just responding to random calls and doing tasks.

Mabye even hide some secrets about in the small hub world map.

[lost inlet]

the camera pulls it's still the same

[hazy token]

check out police simulator patrol officers

idk if its good but i've seen videos on it and it seems like its a game where you just do that the whole time

[worldly ridge]

Ok, so I had a cocktail + a wishkey on rock + a beer. Time for peak Law Enforcement

[jolly verge]

Buildup and first shot recoil still the same, they might just change camera snake?

[tulip slate]

is there still a ballistics spreadsheet?

[jolly verge]

Yeap https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

[worldly ridge]

Ok, so there's no difference between the HK51 and the G3A3 damage wise?

[jolly verge]

Nope, damage comes from caliber

[worldly ridge]

That's funny and neat at the same time

That thing loses so much velocity IRL (AFAIK half the powder burns after the bullet leaves the barrel) but I vibe with it so I won't complain 😛

Easy to control short barrel 1 shot rifle

[tulip slate]

wait you can ADD MASKS AND NVGS NOW???

[calm vapor]

Does Ready Or Not go on sale for christmas, got a friend whos wondering

[tulip slate]

it's beautiful...

[mental bronze]

it goes on every sale rn

so yes

[worldly ridge]

"Honey, the NODs stay on"

[rocky plover]

yea basically either nvgs, ballistic mask & anti flash goggles or nvgs & gas mask

[worldly ridge]

NVG & gas mask, but stricly 90's

[frigid condor]

Anyone else having an issue where your equipped items on both you and your team change the second you exit the loadout menu?

[worldly ridge]

Scroll back a bit

[elder sigil]

Dumping 3 magazines of Beanbag shotgun on a suspect without him complying 🔥

[frigid condor]

I scrolled and dont see anything. Is there a fix?

[worldly ridge]

Known issue

[bitter mason]

use preset saves to get around it

[worldly ridge]

I just want to know when can we expect SIG 550s in the game

[ocean lichen]

What are the soft objectives on mirage at sea apart from the dead body

[fossil kindle]

Theres a crime scene somewhere else on the ship ||follow the blood trail which should lead to the body||

Anybody finding nonlethal not making people surrender? Me and my friends been spamming yell at them but they don't want to put their hands up on coyote

[elder sigil]

Same with Neon so far, me and a friend can be yelling at a suspect and he just sits there staring at us not complying, its so fucking annoying

[molten bough]

Did they add new guns?

[elder sigil]

They added the M14, a MP5SD6, G3, and I think the MK17.

[molten bough]

Oh very nice

[elder sigil]

There's probably more.

[molten bough]

Yeh i wish they would add a new shotgun

[bitter mason]

they added a new shotgun in the last DLC

[ocean lichen]

Meh shotguns useless ive had a methead on twisted nerve take like 5 buckshot rounds

[opal basin]

there should be a mission where you play as judge before he got on swat

as a regular cop, and you respond to a crazy situation before swat gets there

as a prologue

[fossil kindle]

Update, beanbag shotgun is the only good nonlethal that makes them comply fast. the pepperballs only stuns them sometimes and makes them take forever to comply in comparison

[molten bough]

is it possible to do a mission where the criminals dont fire a shot?

[loud crescent]

maybe the gas station or trapped wood house

[shy tulip]

Yes, with great skill

[molten bough]

Okay i might attempt that

[loud crescent]

as of the latest update, beanbag shotgun doesn't guarantee compliance against some enemies with a single shot
i find it's best to fire, call for compliance, then if they don't immediately drop, fire again

[burnt quarry]

Can anyone give me a Guide for the Achivement "Beat Cop". I dont understand this

[jolly verge]

Five seven with AP and ballistic shield, get at least C grade and you good

[burnt quarry]

Thanks

[summer copper]

yup i have had this experience too, somehow fractured ribs aren't reason enough to surrender

[edgy verge]

whats the best way to get the Party crasher achievement?

• do you have to end the mission to get it or just apprehend sah'id

[shy tulip]

End the mission because civs can't die afterwards (like getting hit in crossfire)

[lost oasis]

what is the party crasher achievement

oh its new

[edgy verge]

description says that u must apprehend him before he gives the order to kill civs, what does that mean? will the first civ get killed the second he gives the order or is there a timer but the achievement cant be done after that?

[shy tulip]

His AI will go active shooter when he gives the order and start shooting, toc will even warn you

[edgy verge]

so the achievement is still doable after he gives the order but not after the first civ is killed (obviously)

[shy tulip]

No

He cannot give the order at all

[edgy verge]

wym he cannot give the order?

[simple drum]

How is everyone liking the latest patch?

[shy tulip]

He can't be allowed to issue the order of the achievement is invalid

[edgy verge]

so how do you keep him from giving the order? just speedrun the map?

[shy tulip]

Rush him specifically, yes

[fossil kindle]

Speedrun to him before he gives the order

[elder sigil]

Become max verstappen

[edgy verge]

alrighty. so once the order is given i cant get the achievement right? even if no civ has been killed yet.

[shy tulip]

Yep

[edgy verge]

okay now i get it thank you

[twilit sand]

istg

[shy tulip]

v

[twilit sand]

if these hostages pull out their phone one more time

[edgy verge]

officer he was reaching...

[twilit sand]

yeah like what do you expect me to do

and then you have suspect "surrendering" by pointing their gun at you and slowly dropping it

[languid lantern]

at least that's getting fixed.

[twilit sand]

no It's not a bug just a stupid animation to get you to shoot them on accident

[edgy verge]

nah i hate when the hostages just slam the door open and i just uhh yk do a lil oopsie

[languid lantern]

Welp, sounds like a you problem

[shy tulip]

hopefully we never get armed civilians cause holy shit the complaining about ROE will never end.

[strange depot]

I love waiting 30 seconds for this dude to get out of his hesitation animation just so I can arrest him… 😑

[summer copper]

i got it by accident lol guy spawned like 2 rooms from spawn

[languid lantern]

that's my only problem with that animation.

[edgy verge]

lucky you

[languid lantern]

It takes.. lil too long

[exotic elk]

anyone know whats up with the QR code on one of the sights

[languid lantern]

One of the new ones?

[summer copper]

what was the deal with the ||keycard and terminal on leviathan||

[shy tulip]

Devs love to hide easter eggs on the guns, I think that one says there is no easter egg

[edgy verge]

||you can then access a terminal in one of the rooms explaining that one dude on the rig was in on it ||

[languid lantern]

gasp spoliers.

[edgy verge]

thats why its marked as one ^^

[summer copper]

||yeah i found the terminal and half-read it but is it connected to anything deeper or is it just the explanation as to why the whole thing happened?||

[edgy verge]

||certainly aint the explanation why it happened but yeah its just that one guy on the rig was in on it i guess ||

[summer copper]

gotcha, thanks

i'd hoped it'd be a little more than that

[wise beacon]

Hey, i'm doing Neon Tomb, I don't have any of the finis objectives, I don't know where to look.
Need help, please

[lost oasis]

whats the best way to get an A+ or S on port

[lost oasis]

wdym by finis objectives? I dont think neon has any hidden objectives that i can remember

yeah no it has no soft objectives

[wise beacon]

sorry, i didn't finish the word
I don't have any of the end goals I don't know where to look anymore

i opened every doorsm i think

[loud crescent]

there we go, S-rank on all missions :>

now to get sleeper agent.

[wise beacon]

ok, i founds the last civilians and shooters

[umbral oar]

i had a really good sleeper agent run

but i mustve been a second late

[slender shell]

you need to kill 15 sus within 15 sec interval each sus. You need to have at least 2-3 fella party and go full lethal. Struggling right now with this shit solo

[hot juniper]

what does the emergency system do in seroglio?

[honest jacinth]

WTF is wrong with dorms?? this is my millionth play through for S rank and theres always evidence missing. I make sure to bag EVERY SINGLE ONE right after arrest, BUT NO, 4 evidence missing.

[summer copper]

how hard was three letter triad to S rank?

[loud crescent]

hardest so far, imo, less-lethals aren't very effective on USIA

[summer copper]

harder than port?

[loud crescent]

yeah, harder than port

[summer copper]

fuck

[honest jacinth]

is anyone else having issues doing S on dorms tho

[loud crescent]

port's bigger, but enemy density is higher in 3LT and since they shrug off handhelds they'll cook you

[summer copper]

yes lol not for the same reasons as you though

[honest jacinth]

im genuinely losing my sanity, everytime theres evidence missing

[loud crescent]

are you using 'search and secure'?

[honest jacinth]

im doing it in mulitplayer so no

[loud crescent]

and getting the soft objective (securing the drugs)?

[honest jacinth]

evidence of drug use, yes. its always evidence left

[summer copper]

do you have the weapon highlight feature on?

you should try just bagging evidence on a per suspect basis

some guys drop multiple guns

[loud crescent]

you're missing guns because it's a map with a bunch of tight corners and debris and you can't have the AI pick them up for you
your options are either to manually scour the whole map looking for those last few weapons (which, sometimes, can fall through the map and be unobtainable) or do it in singleplayer

[honest jacinth]

like 13/14 evidence bagged. We search for like 20 mins and we make sure to secure evidence ON THE GO, yet everytime something is missing. Ive seen multiple times evidence fasing through some wall or through the ground

[honest jacinth]

yea

[summer copper]

i swear to god we must have different copies of the game cuz i have never ever ran into the issue of evidence phasing through the ground

[honest jacinth]

ill just try on singleplayer ig

[summer copper]

yeah give it a try on singleplayer cuz that search and secure command is genuinely OP for S rank

[loud crescent]

^^^

the last achievement i need now is sleeper agent, and i've committed to doing it vanilla so no using the "3x as many enemies" mod
i don't know if it is realistically doable solo, though

[summer copper]

its nowhere near realistically doable solo ... but is still probably still doable

[slender shell]

nearly to impossible

[terse umbra]

I would love it if the ROE wasn’t complete bullshit I mean wtf man who came up with this shit

[slender shell]

fr

that's bullshit

especially when there's nobody to help with that

[honest jacinth]

anyone know what the secret achievments are

[slender shell]

whatch youself wrom heli cam and fin some shit in Elysian (c2 needed)

[opal basin]

I have the mod that makes it so you don’t have to bag guns, makes the game a lot more enjoyable and more realistic since swat wouldn’t want to just ruin a crime scene by touching the guns

[honest jacinth]

i know the heli cam one but idk what youre talking about for the second

what does fin some shit in elysian mean

[slender shell]

tha't waht i will do after i deal with sleeper agent shit

[slender shell]

You need to find some specific place and bang it with c2

[honest jacinth]

on what map?

[slender shell]

Elysian - abandoned hotel

last map

[honest jacinth]

can you describe it?

i have to destroy a specific door?

[slender shell]

something like that, find in steam walkthroughs

[honest jacinth]

couldnt find it in the steam guides

okay i figured it out

[slender shell]

on west from indoor pool 1fl

[honest jacinth]

i found it, thanks

[shadow ether]

I'm gonna voice a bit of an opinion but can we PLEASE have "arrest 3/5/100 suspects" work with incapacitations? At least in most maps

Like seriously, I get it that an incap suspect is not guaranteed to survive, but it really fucks with me when the mission requires me to arrest 3 suspects, I incap 10 and it STILL counts as a fail.

[ionic fiber]

use taser

or beanbags
less lethal will make people reconsider their choices

god the AI is so similar to swat 4

[shadow ether]

At that point, it becomes nothing but attempts to S-rank it

[ionic fiber]

just bring a taser, wand every room, breach and bang when neccesary

[ionic fiber]

then just bring a taser

[shy tulip]

It does technically apply, but only for special characters. Random suspects no.

[half sundial]

anyone know any updated unlock all mods? all the old ones make my game corrupted

[shy tulip]

I wouldn't mind incap being like 20 points vs arrest 35 points. They used to be the same, but people got way too good at just gut blasting people with SMGs.

[shadow ether]

That's what I'm asking, why do random suspects get more luxurious treatment than HVTs? Tbh it makes more sense to me to only arrest HVTs and to just let survive a bunch of random suspects.

[shy tulip]

The way I've always seen it from a police perspective, arrests go straight to the jail for processing and you can get useful information from them that way

Incaps 100% go the hospital and it's not guaranteed they survive in my mind

lotta medically induced comas

[ionic fiber]

cs gas to flush them out?

[shadow ether]

But isn't the point of every HVT in the game "we need to ask them things or they are too important to die"?

[honest jacinth]

does anyone know if the sahid on the boat map gives the murder civillians order after a certain time or is the order triggered by the player doing something like shooting?

[ionic fiber]

i think he'll just start blasting if you go loud/a kinetic event occur

like a guy shooting an AK to your face

[honest jacinth]

so i just gotta rush him and hope i get lucky with sahid being the first guy i encounter without encountering enemies?

[shy tulip]

Yeah idk, the way I see it is you arrest them but they're not as useful as if you had beanbagged them in the nuts

[ionic fiber]

I guess so, you can try to experiment to see what happens

[honest jacinth]

pretty painful to experiment since id have to fully complete the map to know if the order was given

[ionic fiber]

nah, you just have to be notified if a civvie died

[shadow ether]

Like, with random ash methheads I'm sure the detectives can afford two or three weeks of their suspects recovering from gunshots before interrogations begin. Somehow, random methheads must be interrogated tonight and ||the leader of a foreign terrorist group|| can just hang out in the hospital, doesn't quite matter if he's okay as long as he's just some degree of alive

[ionic fiber]

then restart and do something different

[shadow ether]

NGL the map could really benefit from the "kill order" being telegraphed better. Or at all. So far it seems like at some point NPCs just all get an urge to kill every civilian out of complete nowhere, and the "kill order" is explained offscreen. Has anyone seen them receive that order?

[ionic fiber]

maybe, because playing at the yacht. I was slowly clearing it top to bottom before receiving a civilian killed penalty because the suspects shot a civ

[shadow ether]

Well yeah! That's what I'm saying! The only indication for the player that the kill order is in effect is when a civvie dies. How do suspects know when to start killing everyone?

[ionic fiber]

maybe that saudi guy should go on the PA, and order the suspects in arabic

so we know, that in (1 minute?) they have to quicken the pace

[shadow ether]

Exactly! A PA, or their walkie talkies going off, or something. Just some hint that "guys, shit just got real"

[ionic fiber]

I wish that the game took from other games, like Black Powder Red Earth, where you get a warning about kinetic events like an unsupressed gun firing

and the suspects would be more skittish

at max level they'll take hostages as shields, or hole up somewhere

[shadow ether]

I still have no clue how suspect stress and stealth work in this game. It feels like they don't.

[ionic fiber]

i think its like swat 4's system

where there's morale and skill

[shadow ether]

Suppressors feel like they're more for my hearing convenience than any actual gameplay benefit.

[midnight oak]

Is it actually worth using them?

[ionic fiber]

test out the mp5sd, since it has a small signature, you might be able to get the drop on people

[shadow ether]

Well... I use them, but mostly for hearing convenience.

[ionic fiber]

same, it doesn't seem to make the signature smaller

[shadow ether]

If only it didn't give me "unauthorized use of force"...

[ionic fiber]

no, you breach the room
see suspect
shout
suspect point gun
full auto to his head
no penalty

ask me how I know this exploit

[shadow ether]

shout
And the whole map knows you're there

[ionic fiber]

nope, just the room it seems, because shouting across 2 rooms won't work for some reason

I don't know if its just the suspects resisting

[worldly ridge]

I regularly hear other suspects from other rooms telling me to fuck off

[ionic fiber]

or if its a bug of some sorts

[ionic fiber]

then supressors are basically useless

[shadow ether]

I am also convinced the AI can discern police footsteps from any other footsteps, because dozens of times they reacted like THE POLICE IS HERE while I was just walking down a hallway towards their room.

[ionic fiber]

let that ak ring

[worldly ridge]

Tbh the one I can really recall is the streamer map. From the mother's apartment I can always hear the guys in the streamer room.
MIght be map dependant on range

[ionic fiber]

man that streamer map don't make no sense, you would think that the security would be inside the room but apparently, they'll ambush you

outside, 1 floor above

is there a mod that can let you plan the bots route? like rainbow six? the good one, not the new one

[shadow ether]

If there is a stealth mechanic in the game, it does not interact with the rest of the game, because damn it's so easy to break stealth and requires so much of you, you might as well go loud and fast instead.

[worldly ridge]

My real problem with the steamer map is the morale. Both suspect and civilian
It's unreal

[shadow ether]

kills five high-grade cops with no hesitation
wears headphones with cat ears the entire time
What is that streamer dude

[ionic fiber]

played cod for 6000 hours

[ionic fiber]

that's why I always bring a taser and wand
wand for target
flash
tase

[worldly ridge]

Dead. -Signed G3

[shadow ether]

Or is it just the absolute state of Los Suenos where killing an entire SWAT team is not seen as a big challenge, a big deal, or in fact anything to be concerned about?

[worldly ridge]

Tbh doesn't seem like a challenge. Imagine fighting against dudes that just stand still yelling at you and moving at a snail's pace while you zip around at mach 2 and ignore incoming fire unless it kills you

[ionic fiber]

idk if this is a hot take or not but

the game should give you more than 4 dudes to clear out a mcfucking oil rig

[shadow ether]

Not really. It's pretty small

[ionic fiber]

we have tecnology

we are no longer bound by my trash tier thinkpad

[loud crescent]

god, finally got 100%
sleeper agent solo is hell.

[shadow ether]

We played it today and it was quite manageable for 3 people, just that by the end we had to do 5 laps of the place to find the last suspect

[shadow ether]

How did you achieve that

[loud crescent]

SA-58, started at the docks, reset until i had a spawn of 6-7 enemies in the nearest big room (with the two double doors and the 'balcony' on the far end)
from there, kill them all, move to the room with the staircase and hope you get lucky with another big spawn

there's about four places on the map where multiple enemies are likely to spawn, and those two are the only ones that are reasonably within 15s of each other
you can extend the timer by killing someone on the way, but it's unreliable