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[hoary spire]

new toc sounds nice :D

[thorn egret]

Only "big" map is the island, which is very open in some places (Especially at the default starting spot)

[lavish reef]

oil rig is big too

[bitter mason]

only played the yatch one too far
It feels big, keep thinking its not as big as I think then I start thinking its even bigger
and the entire active shooter thing on it is just total balls

[lavish reef]

oil rig is closed map but still big,yacht is small but good

[warm granite]

yacht is small with lots of floors

[bitter mason]

this is extremely petty but some of the writing in the briefings is off to me
random f bombs thrown in sound really out of place

[polar scaffold]

the helicopter view is only for the dlc?

[thorn egret]

Just move faster

[thorn egret]

Yeah, in the timeline that's when they get access to a helicopter anyways so

[bitter mason]

problem. Playing with AI teammates and they dont clear fast and dynamic very well
suspect ai is still really annoying and extra annoying now they hive mind towards each other.
Rushing it leads to more mistakes
the entire active shooter mechanic is terrible and does not work well with the game

[thorn egret]

I mean I haven't had any problems with it
I just go faster so they don't have time to begin killing civis
Just use your AI to arrest anyone

[bitter mason]

I fucking do lmao

[eager walrus]

Oh so it’s not fixed? Shocked

[thorn egret]

Then..Just do that and don't use them for clearing!!

[terse umbra]

Lmao I finish the first mission and it immediately crashes so apparently I didn’t do it but it’s given me an A+.. how can I play the next mission??

[warm granite]

redo?

[raven schooner]

is there any way to prevent hostages from being executed randomly on the yacht or am i just gonna have a random chance of failing every time i play it

[terse umbra]

I mean yeah but wtf

[thorn egret]

They're on a timer

[warm granite]

just be faster

[bitter mason]

nope not fixed at all
the rally AI makes dealing with suspects even worse now since they will all swarm together from other floors and such
Genuinely annoys me how little VOID care to make an actual swat game
they might aswell remove ROE and the arrest scoring as a whole at this point

[thorn egret]

I literally haven't had any problems with them swarming together besides one time, and..Why wouldn't they swarm?? People grouping up = safer

[bitter mason]

Sah'id orders the executions, if you arrest him before he orders it you will be good
It is literally just down to luck where he spawns and if you can get him in time

[eager walrus]

Fuck sakes I’ll test it myself after work but fuck me man this is ridiculous

[placid horizon]

Be faster or be quieter; At a very low stress threshold the key npc will order civilian deaths

[thorn egret]

I got an S rank the third try 😭 It's fine
RNG was bad too, Sah'id was one of my last things

[jolly tiger]

Skib

[thorn egret]

[potent stratus]

Christ I just realized
"Three letter triad"
Three letters? M.L.O.

[thorn egret]

What is MLO-
OH WAIT IT'S THOSE GUYS

[potent stratus]

Yeah I know everyone is talking about them now
It's pretty much a secret faction
They were once the enemy in PvP alpha, and then placeholders for Cherryessa

[bitter mason]

Lucky you you arent having this problem
so far every run I've done they've started killing civvies before I have even ran into the dude. First run I cleared but ended up with pretty much everyone dead.
every other run the suspects just start swarming in
The entire rally system is just terrible for a game where killing should be the last resort. It just turns it into any other military shooter

[thorn egret]

Yeye, I remember
...The hell does that have to do with this random gang on the resort?

[potent stratus]

Apparently they have their secret room on this map
I love metagaming with achievements

[thorn egret]

Idk about you but
Flashbangs
Gas

[viral spire]

Whose idea was it to add the silly 45 degree canted grip?

[thorn egret]

Good question lol
It's a bit silly, think it got popular from Tarkov
V then carry like, two

[bitter mason]

I cant carry infinite flashes and the bots are slow at breaching

[rocky plover]

anyone did big shell specialist?

[potent stratus]

Just completed Mirage at A, probably gonna wait for NMFT to update before S ranking all the new missions
For the record, I completed all base game missions on non-lethal and I absolutely don't wanna do it again

[raven schooner]

are the hostages in consistent locations or is it all random

[jolly tiger]

Ground branch vs ready or not

[potent stratus]

Random
||Good job for me, wasting a 30-second cooldown for one word||

[raven schooner]

oh you gotta arrest sahid and then it doesnt happen ok

[potent stratus]

I don't honestly know, in my first try I arrested him almost immediately and still a civilian died

[raven schooner]

i mean my first try i got him immediatley and there was never an active shooter call but i ended up dying

[bitter mason]

suspect and civvie placements are all randomized

[thorn egret]

DID THEY REMOVE
Erm
Spamming the 6 key for hand ties
For an action

[potent stratus]

lmao I never did that

[thorn egret]

It was truly majestic
Can't believe they'd betray the community like this

[potent stratus]

I like the convenience of just interacting with the suspect to arrest him, in SWAT 4 you had to pull out your handcuffs. Here you can too, but IDK if it's functional

[noble pasture]

Did they slow down arrest and evidence pick up animations?

[subtle edge]

Anybody found the missing whale plushie on Mirage at Sea?

I looked everywhere after he executed every hostage and smoked my whole team

[potent stratus]

Man SWAT 4 feels so clunky sometimes after playing RoN, but there is something to SWAT 4 that makes me prefer it.
No idea why. Both games are great. Maybe I just like SWAT 4 maps more

[shy tulip]

Ayy, party crasher first try

[thorn egret]

THERE'S A WHALE PLUSHIE!?!?

[subtle edge]

Oh yeah and then TOC fckin roasted me alive on the score screen

[thorn egret]

I need to get back on that map ASAP!!

[potent stratus]

Hey wait!!
I just noticed, the missions take place in 2027, but the sealing officer is Thomas Rudes

I thought he quit the job after the Elephant???

[subtle edge]

Idk if its real, but the girls' rooms have notes pasted all over the walls about a legally-safe knockoff Blahaj they lost onboard

[thorn egret]

[potent stratus]

But the new evidence boxes are stamped by C.O.A.S.T. and not LSPD, maybe he later got a job there

[thorn egret]

IT HAS TO BE ONBOARD I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT'S NOT INGAME I WILL CHOKE THE DEVS FOR HINTING AT SUCH PERFECTION BEFORE RIPPING IT AWAY FROM US

[subtle edge]

Ooooh cayoo just reminded me, i bet its an evidence collectable

[mystic dew]

if i have the gasmask and the faice sheild together does that mean im grandafthered in lol

[thorn egret]

Guess so yeah
I got two pairs of gas masks somehow

[potent stratus]

I'm here trying to dig into the lore while yall talk about knockoff blahaj

[noble pasture]

Blahaj blast!

[thorn egret]

Blahaj lore is very VERY important to the game

[subtle wadi]

Are we supposed to take the civilian on triage somewhere

[shy tulip]

No

[mystic dew]

i can confirm this

[potent stratus]

Yeah, the evidence is the only reason I struggle with S-ranking
But like I said, the sealing officer here is Thomas Rudes, who everyone thought quit or got fired after his son was killed in WCC shooting, he had a mental breakdown and scribbled "fuck it" and "my little boy" all over the evidence boxes. From this point on, the sealing officer was Alana Chan

[thorn egret]

I wonder if HE knows where the Blahaj is

[potent stratus]

But yeah we have a huge time gap between those dlcs

Home Invasion takes place in feb 2026, but here we jump straight to 2027

[bitter mason]

I've now cleared the map with only 2 suspects arrested but now its the classic civvie hunt

[potent stratus]

That's why I loved ArmeT's SWAT ai overhaul, after the area was safe you just gave one "search and secure" and your teammates would automatically spread out and tie up the loose ends, except for soft objectives of course

[thorn egret]

I think you can order them to do that
But then again I usually forget I can do that so maybe not-

[shy tulip]

That's a base game thing, I doubt the mod can change anything that radical about it

[tacit gull]

That's an order in the base game lmao

[potent stratus]

I never paid attention, but in Home Invasion, we have a different sealing officer: Dax Bryson

Also VOID needs to fix evidence rooms, the models are now extremely dark for some reason

[thorn egret]

I didn't think they were extremely dark

[tacit gull]

I'm surprised the update mostly works tbh, bar some trash bugs

[potent stratus]

I know, but for some reason in vanilla they just clean a single room instead of the whole prace
Or maybe I missed that somehow

[tacit gull]

(let us use no helmet without comtacs)

[potent stratus]

Those red and blue lights are making the LSPD look like there's been a party

[golden trellis]

yo where can i post my error screenshots when launching the game?

[thorn egret]

Agreed
Though ngl my "City Police" outfit kinda goes hard w/comtacs..
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[shy tulip]

#💻tech-support

[bitter mason]

I think the only bug I've had so far is some weird ones with suspects not complying or bugging out
my arrest kept canceling when arresting a suspect then he suddenly got up and refused to comply even after beating him up and tasing him
another suspect was on his knees with his hands up but I couldnt arrest him or order him, and my AI team were compliance yelling him

the new surrender animations could be a bit faster too
they're way to slow rn I think

[shy tulip]

I like em being this speed, makes you think and have to play by the AIs terms

[thorn egret]

Only bug I've had is the slow mode surrendering since it feels like it's a glitch, cus they speed right up after dropping their gun

[bitter mason]

only other thing is its activation is a bit wack. had a dude do it after being flash banged when I think by that point it should be all or nothing
the speed of the animation should vary also

feels more like you wait for the animation to end rather for them to make their move

[thorn egret]

I checked the changelog and I don't see anything about suspects w/slow animations so I think it's a glitch lol
It said new compliance and non compliance but I don't think that includes surrendering

[carmine merlin]

These new maps are great

[thorn egret]

[bitter mason]

compliance is surrendering
the animations are meant to be a bit drawn out, similar to the ones in SWAT 4
but they definitely feel a bit too slow
or atleast there is no variety in speed

[thorn egret]

I mean they're literally in slow motion so I dunno-
V yeah

[bitter mason]

you mean the ones where they slowly place their gun on the floor and such?

[thorn egret]

This DLC is WAYY better than Home Invasion imo
The neighborhood thing and homeless maps were very mid

[bitter mason]

great I just have to give up on this run of yatch because the last fucking civvie was literally no where

[hazy token]

fr home invasion is good for the cosmetics

but dark waters is just so good

[thorn egret]

I thought it only had like, a top and pants?

[potent stratus]

Home invasion missions were nice too

[tacit gull]

Yeah dark waters feels like a major step in the right direction

[hazy token]

nahhh theres i think 2 helmets and vest as well

[hazy token]

i agree

[tacit gull]

Now i want all the features in the base maps

[potent stratus]

I wonder if the soundtrack is ever gonna get updated, with tracks from HI and DW
Also Sins of the Father is missing from the soundtrack, and I love that mission

[thorn egret]

I never even knew, I gotta find the images

[carmine merlin]

Yea agree, each map brings a totally different challenge where I felt the HI maps felt very similar

[shy tulip]

I think Zack said that they were working on the OST for DLC 1 but that it'd take time of course

[hazy token]

my current fit is mostly just home invasion stuff lol. i like the dark camo that they give

[carmine merlin]

Has anyone tried or kept their mods on? Would love to know if they work?

[potent stratus]

I just started Leviathan and I swear to God if I see a flesh pulp approaching me and yelling at me with scottish accent then I'm jumping off the rig

[thorn egret]

Oh sweet
I'm rocking my city police uniform (With the new dark waters vest, I love that thing)
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(Meant to reply to @hazy token)

[hazy token]

previously, i think speedster hoss were the only shirts with black and grey camo but they were like athletic shirts. home invasion added proper uniforms in it

[tacit gull]

This and free update that looks super exciting next year? I think we're so back

[toxic hound]

can you play the new dlc if one person in your party owns it?

[hazy token]

cop LARP going

[thorn egret]

OH I DIDN'T KNOW THEY ADDED SHIRTS WITH THAT CAMO
I should buy that DLC asap!

[hazy token]

if the host owns it, yes

[stark dew]

Is the 30 second slow mode still here?

[bitter mason]

2 helmets
4 shits
1 pant
1 vest
3 tattoos
1 shoe

[hazy token]

indeed

[toxic hound]

ok ty!

[thorn egret]

20% that
80% I just like the outfit

[potent stratus]

Some work
No Crack already got updated
Most cosmetics mods don't need to be updated
I don't think No Mercy for Terrorists needed an update, because the game runs just fine for me when I brought it back

[stark dew]

Ngl, I feel like it’s rather unnecessary but that’s just me

[hazy token]

respectable

[thorn egret]

I need to find images for these; can't find em for the life of me

[bitter mason]

Ill send some to you

[stark dew]

Now imagine a swat operator with just 1 shoe

[carmine merlin]

Il test some tomorrow then as searching that yacht for 29 mins and could find 1 bit of evidence 😂

[fringe siren]

Does this company not have a single play tester? How can a critical bug like loadouts not saving not get caught before release...

[thorn egret]

Idk I haven't had that problem

[shy tulip]

^

But yes they do, this dlc has actually been probably the least buggy of launches. They're aware of some issues and will fix em

Seems to be with specific loadouts but I'm not sure what

[potent stratus]

You can turn on weapon highlighting in accessibility settings, there's no shame in that because sometimes the weapons will either be too hard to see or just fall somewhere, even through the floor

[stark dew]

I hate playing carriers of the vine because of the weapons falling through the floor in church

[stark dew]

Especially that one out of bounds area at the porch

[potent stratus]

If they fall through the floor there, they most likely will be in the cellar below, am I right?

[bitter mason]

my bot loadouts wouldnt save unless I make them presets

[potent stratus]

Oooh I get you now
But it never happened to me, mostly because I play with bots who just clean it up immediately

[carmine merlin]

Oh shit I didn’t know that!!! Thanks

[stark dew]

It ruined one of my best CoV runs

[potent stratus]

I love how sometimes your AI temmate literally bags a weapon before it hits the ground, wonder which part of SWAT training covers that

[stark dew]

F1 racer reflexes

[potent stratus]

CotV is one of my favorite missions and the first one I S-ranked, accidentally

[stark dew]

I wonder, will new rifles be meta

[cedar narwhal]

Is there a way to change the names on the back of the body armor?

[stark dew]

Even if they are not I will still be using them because G3 and MP5SD are cool as hell

[thorn egret]

Talk to your parents

[tacit gull]

Its just your steam name

[stark dew]

I already imagine myself use MP5SD on some mission with a lot of unarmored targets

[tacit gull]

The weapon handling changes actually feel really nice

They're incredibly subtle but i really like how it feels now

[thorn egret]

Only problem is they moved the model up on it for some weird reason

[potent stratus]

Jesus, I LOVE the new team marks and colored glowsticks, I missed that from SWAT 4

[thorn egret]

I wish we could choose their color though
Using a Resident Evil Hunk loadout needs red glowsticks..

[potent stratus]

I also need to check if Sins of the Father now has a helicopter cutscene if you choose to land on the roof

[tacit gull]

They work based on your team color

[thorn egret]

ik ik
Just wish I could choose!

[potent stratus]

Yeah that would be nice but I wouldn't imagine a SWAT team going frickin team magenta

I remember SWAT 4 on co-op changed your glowstick depending on if you were assigned to blue or red by the host

[thorn egret]

Maybe some basic color choices; blue, red, yellow

[tacit gull]

It's the same here

[potent stratus]

Holy shit the music from Ides of March just kicked in on Leviathan, I really think the music in this game is more important than we think

[deep rain]

So how is the FPS on the new maps for you ppl compared to the base game? Cause it's not that good for me, while base game has 100+fps

[tacit gull]

They actually run pretty decent for me, and they're definetly lookers

[potent stratus]

Like, there is that "haunted" woman singing in Sins of the Father, and you can hear the same one in Lawmaker after finding the panic room, I really think it's not coincidental

[thorn egret]

Ghosts???

[tacit gull]

A lot of songs in the game reuse motifs from others

[potent stratus]

Yeah, mostly when they're connected

• Gas Station and Twisted Nerve have very similar music
• In 48 MB you can hear leitmotifs from The Spider and Sinuous Trail
• Buy Cheap and Hide and Seek have the same melody in "passive" music

[deep rain]

the car dealership combat music (also used on anohter map, cant remember) always pumps me up the most

the transition from "stealth" to "close to escalate" and then "BAM escalate" is so well done, it's genius

[potent stratus]

True

[thorn egret]

Weird, I haven't seen Watchmenwakeup yet

[pearl shuttle]

Guys what is the best loadout for quickly saving the hostages in Mirage at Sea lol

[deep rain]

he's asking his church for donations to get the DLC

[thorn egret]

True

[potent stratus]

I gave LVARs to my whole team, 300. BLK is good for taking out the suspects quickly.
But it mostly depends on your luck, like in elephant

[shy tulip]

Be cool and use a full squad of MP5SDs

[deep rain]

I just did A+ with SMG, light armor to be fast, and ram to get through doors quick. maybe also could try commander mode and get a "kicker trait" in the team for the doors

[potent stratus]

If what others are saying is true, you need to arrest the main suspect asap so he can't give the order

[proven blade]

nice lore

[pearl shuttle]

That's what the patch notes say

[warm blaze]

So I tried different mod configs

Breaks the game:

• Weapon mods
• Modifications to existing items (helmets, vests etc)

Non game-breaking:

• Cosmetic addons

[shy tulip]

Correct

[thorn egret]

Y'know, if they wanted to introduce the helicopter on other maps, they could do it througha news helicopter or somethin; non thermal but still kinda cool

[fervent orbit]

I can't see my tattoos

[potent stratus]

Some gameplay mods work
Gunfighter doesn't work,
No Crack got updated,
No Stress and No Mercy are working just fine

[shy tulip]

It is an issue with certain gloves

[potent stratus]

Probably the new ones, because I have the same issue and I'm wearing them currently

[fervent orbit]

thank you I was about to have a mental breakdown over not having them

[modest bear]

I keep getting "unauthorized use of force" after I kill a suspect that's not complying with my shouting. is this a glitch? They're not putting down their weapons.

[rocky plover]

get used to their long animations before firing

[steady herald]

When is pvp getting added? its been a year since 1.0

[modest bear]

never. This is a PVE game

[steady herald]

In early access they even said PVP will come at later date

[shy tulip]

You are probably shooting them while they are hesitating

[shy tulip]

It's not a priority currently

[steady herald]

Bruh been a year...

[potent stratus]

I really don't want PvP in this game, but to each their own

[frank yew]

Hopefully never lol

[thorn egret]

Just wait a bit
They haven't aimed at you so

[steady herald]

I think PVE is better than PVP sure. But when they said its going to be in the game i expect it in the damn game. (Also gives more replay value to the product)

[tacit gull]

And it will be in the game, they haven't scrapped it

[steady herald]

Less features = good for players?

[tacit gull]

The game was in fucking shambles after 1.0, it's just now getting better and i'd rather they stick to that

[thorn egret]

...Was it-?

[fringe vault]

i imagine they are trying to figure out how to add pvp while still maintaining the whole vibe they are doing

[tacit gull]

More (potentially useless) features != better for players either

[thorn egret]

I mean I was disappointed there wasn't new maps

[fringe vault]

afterall i imagine the last thing they want is pulling a r6

[tacit gull]

They already fumbled PVP once, they dont need to do it again

PVP is coming, MLO is coming, it's not a priority and it never should have been

[frank yew]

Yup

[chrome tide]

it won’t let me equip the flight suit, has that been happening to yall

[lime birch]

anyone managed to select the PVS-5 in the cosmetic options?

[frank yew]

facts

[tacit gull]

They know about it, probably fixed next patch

[chrome tide]

alright thanks man

[tacit gull]

Does that not work?

[thorn egret]

You guys can't?? I did

[proven blade]

Why didn't I get Party Crasher? Sah'Id is alive and all civvies were rescued

[potent stratus]

Maybe he did give the order and you were just quicker

[shy tulip]

I see the PVS7

[tacit gull]

Did he order civ execution?

[shy tulip]

but idk about 5

[proven blade]

nah

[waxen eagle]

What is best way to get S rank? I am trying to unlock stuff. Ik I should be using my AI teammates but what is the best loadout and stuff

[tacit gull]

Best you can do is give them pepperball launchers so they dont one shot suspects

[lime birch]

nope i can only select the modern NVG and the PVS-7

[waxen eagle]

yeah been doing the pepperball stuff

[acoustic ridge]

underfunded police force
read changelogs
uh60 providing callouts and thermals

[thorn egret]

We are so underfunded!
Buys a helicopter

[shy tulip]

It's not our helicopter

Tis COASTs

[potent stratus]

I just found an interactable console on the rig, and it won't let me access it without a keycard
Guess i'm gonna spend another hour looking for it

[tacit gull]

Ah, i guess they didnt make it into the update yet

[lime birch]

shame because i saw it in last week's teaser picture

[tacit gull]

They might be added with a hotfix, some other features did in the past

[potent stratus]

Funny how here eco-terrorist straight up invade and oil rig and start mudering civilians, while irl they just glue themselves to the road or something

[warm blaze]

Gun mods in general doesn’t work, I tried using my HK416SMR and it crashed

[lime birch]

also i wish the top optical rail was gone from the HKs if you didn't have an optic installed, kind of like the vanilla solid stock MP5

[thorn egret]

I'm happy to kill them for the glue and ruining paintings

[rocky plover]

kinda hard to explain exactly where, but it's where there are very 3 small bedrooms next to each other, it's in the middle room on a table

[tacit gull]

Yeah the eco terrorists are a weird faction, they're decently fun to fight but they're so weird

[potent stratus]

I know where! Thanks

[tacit gull]

They also look fucking ridiculous with the colored hair lmao

[potent stratus]

yoink, keycard is mine now

[proven blade]

that isnt terrorism

[potent stratus]

fair point

[shy tulip]

Um, actually, the definition of terrorism is the use of force to achieve political change

[bitter mason]

they recylced the home invasion news report on yatch
bit of a late news story I think

[potent stratus]

I remember tho, I think it was PETA, that literally broke into animal farms and just opened the cages and most of the smaller animals almost immediately died somewhere in the wild because they weren't used living in the open

[warm granite]

how do i see from the helicopter view?

[proven blade]

peta isnt pro animals atp

[warm granite]

peta puts down animals they took off porches, theyve never been animal friendly

[rocky plover]

from the tablet

[potent stratus]

are there any soft objectives on Leviathan?

[bitter mason]

my fucking god someone dropped their gun on the floor above on yatch and the fucking swat AI just cant help themselves but to go for it
its literally a floor above

[potent stratus]

Lmao

[bitter mason]

hostage just got killed because of that great

[warm granite]

run solo no ai

[rocky plover]

yeah but i already forgot exactly how much, it was the first one i S ranked, i think 2 though if im not mistaken

[potent stratus]

Christ that heli is cool and all but they also detect arrested suspects, bro keeps yapping to me about a moving target and it's like 1 handcuffed guy

[warm granite]

civs i believe too

[bitter mason]

the order to kill civvies is just way to sensitive. Literally all I did was enter from the spawn, one suspect got killed, we all have suppressors. And I yelled at a civ and arrested them, after that they go active shooter mode. I didnt breach and doors, all lock picked if they werent already open

[potent stratus]

I'm pretty sure those weapon cases are one of them, I only found 2 atm

[bitter mason]

I dont even think the guy who orders the killing of civs even has a voice line for it, because he was down the hall to me and I couldnt hear him say a thing

[rocky plover]

they don't seem to give any points though so I don't think so

[potent stratus]

bad rng i guess

[bitter mason]

someone here said its based off of their stress level but I call total BS
the stress system for suspects is total ass and you cant change my mind on that

[potent stratus]

I like judge calling out to TOC through control rooms

[modest bear]

Aren't active shooters based on a timer?

[potent stratus]

Finally got it, I had to turn off the drill

[mental trench]

btw who's Judge's VA?

[marsh fjord]

Eliah mountjoy

[potent stratus]

Eliah Mountjoy, I believe he also voiced someone in Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty but I haven't played that yet. I love his voice tho

[marsh fjord]

An absolute GOAT

[potent stratus]

Hard to tell, until now we only had like one and it was Elephant, which is based on a timer

[mental trench]

holy shit dude he's in Black Ops 6

[potent stratus]

darnit it's 2 AM where I live and I've still got one mission to go. And to think I was just about to start fixing my sleep schedule

[shy tulip]

Not on Seraglio

[potent stratus]

Didn't play it too. I only played Modern Warfare 2 a long time ago

[bitter mason]

not on the yatch map
there is a specific suspect that will order the rest to start shooting and the gamemode changes from barricade suspects to active shooter
its pretty terrible

[mental trench]

I searched him up in IMDB dude is in a lot of roles that I know that didn't expect him to be in

[bitter mason]

You can stop it if you arrest him, but where he spawns is RNG so its literally all just getting lucky
RNG is part of the game and that shouldnt change, but your entire run shouldnt be squandered because of something like that

[rocky plover]

then i'm gonna save you some time, last mission is nowhere comparable to the first 2, I had 24 suspects in it

[potent stratus]

I really hate active shooter scenarios in the game, but I have no solid arguments to remove them. We just have to bite the bullet, they're meant to be terrible because they're terrible irl

[rocky plover]

first 2 are super easy, but last 1 is quite the challenge

[gloomy wagon]

is it just me or does the tablet get stuck on your screen when you try to close it

[bitter mason]

I have a solid argument
they're shit
they dont fit the game loop, for Coop it might be okay but they should design things with single player first in mind. Bots are too slow and arent dynamic enough for active shooter, and the game punishes you hard for civvies dying which is very hard to avoid
its RNG in the worst way

[proven blade]

get beanbags, fucking bumrush until you find sah'id, if the order was given restart, if not, continue with beanbags

[gloomy wagon]

bro the first mission has me heated up cuz of the fact that I cant find this fucking girl screaming for help

[proven blade]

i think that'll garuntee S

[bitter mason]

Im not going for an S rank really, just want a good run with lethals. Its how I prefer to play

[potent stratus]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3234

[gloomy wagon]

^

[bitter mason]

the game doesnt blur the line enough between lethal and less lethal runs
at most less lethal should be there when you are 100% sure you want an S rank
lethals should be a safer last resort

[supple edge]

where is meeting room

[gloomy wagon]

mods dont work right now

[potent stratus]

Some do, I'm playing with this one right now

[rocky plover]

try use search and secure

[bitter mason]

nah not how I want this game to be played
I want to get arrests more than shooting people
the game just doesnt want you to get arrests unless you go less lethal only it feels

[gloomy wagon]

wait frl????

[bitter mason]

mods only broke as much as they did last time because it was an engine change from UE4 to UE5. This is just a content update so the only things broken will be things related to what was changed. And shouldnt cause a huge crash like before

[potent stratus]

Just go with 2 or more negotiators in your team and most will surrender.
Like, you can't just make everyone surrender without going less lethal

[drifting burrow]

nice to see this game still runs like ass

[bitter mason]

I aint touching commander mode that shit ass

[gloomy wagon]

it's causing it for me, is gunfighter working rn?

[bitter mason]

gunfighter will probably be broken
they said in the briefing AI and weapon mods will be the ones likely effected

[potent stratus]

Commander is fun, makes you actually care about your teammates

[gloomy wagon]

shits easy its js a pain in the ass taking it so slow

[bitter mason]

I care more for the OG crew than any randomly generated goober from commander mode
commander mode is just a terrible way to play imo

[potent stratus]

Maybe. I play some of both

[strong pivot]

Yooooo controller support?! About to try this out.

[gloomy wagon]

ima see how it goes rq, lyk if it works

[waxen eagle]

Question: I had mods installed when I created few loadouts and outfits and saved them for easy access. However, whenever I click on those saved loadouts the game crashes. I am guessing this is because I do not have those mods anymore. So, is it possible for me to delete those saved loadout from the computer itself? because it wont let me delete from in game

[bitter mason]

I take quickplay slow, just needing to go back to the station just to hop back into the same mission is tedious and I dont want to deal with team management.
I prefer being able to freely restart at will

[shy tulip]

You can overwrite them in-game

Just make a new loadout with what you want then name it the same thing

[waxen eagle]

Smart. Let me try that

[gloomy wagon]

yeah the gunfighter mods are fucked

is anyone else having trouble w/ opening and closing the tablet tho?

[waxen eagle]

It worked. Thank you!

[proven blade]

all mods are broke

[gloomy wagon]

this one isnt
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3234

[proven blade]

erm cheating!!

[potent stratus]

Doc is so awesome, I just heard him cheer up an officer

[gloomy wagon]

erm nuhuh, i just hate being penalized for taking this shit delta style with a quick lil love tap to make sure they dead

[potent stratus]

Yeah, I wouldn't yell bajillion times at a guy shooting up a hospital or wait for him to turn at me
Still completed the base game on non-lethal for good measure

[proven blade]

i have all base game achievements

[potent stratus]

(sweet evidence)

[fallen plume]

hey guys

[full kite]

do you need to have the Dark Waters dlc to use the new battle rifles, or are they free?

[gloomy wagon]

nvm ig it's js a issue w/ using middle mouse to open and close it

[proven blade]

just cosmetics and commander maps to own it

[fallen plume]

Are you having issues equipping tattoos in the new update? I tried changing mine and now I can't see any of them

[gloomy wagon]

there's new guns w/ the dlc?

[potent stratus]

The new gloves are bugged, use different ones and you should be fine

[gloomy wagon]

trying to change the style of all cosemtics is bugged for me rn

[raven schooner]

alright i finally got a clean boat run

[full kite]

yea it's Scar-H, M14, G3. and G3K

[raven schooner]

any soft objectives besides the dead dude and blood pool on the yacht?

[stone bay]

still waiting for the day the m16 becomes a usable gun instead of just being on the wall in the armory....

[jolly pasture]

And an MP5SD

[full kite]

M14 was previously a scrapped weapon so its possible

[jolly pasture]

Also it's an HK51, I've never heard it be called G3K lol

[full kite]

when I was searching it up I saw it named as G3K, similar naming style to G36K

[jolly pasture]

Huh

[potent stratus]

Nope, I don't think so

[raven schooner]

got everything done but its not auto completing :/

[stone creek]

I'm 4hrs in on new dlc that has broken my game. Deleted all mods and re patching and downloading for the 3rd time

[full kite]

It's probably called Hk51 in game I still ahve yet to buy the dlc

[shy tulip]

Define broken the game

[subtle wadi]

Does livestream spawn at random locations

[shy tulip]

The guns are not part of the DLC, they are free

[full kite]

nice

[rocky plover]

Yea

[raven schooner]

oh i never reported the dead guy

[thorn egret]

How
I just removed my mods pre-update and installed, and it's fine
What did you do 😭

[subtle wadi]

where else does it spawn

[full kite]

u might ahve to verify integrity

[jolly pasture]

It's called GA51 in game, HK51 is the real name

[median girder]

I thought one of the officer's voice was voiced by Smitthy from The Rookies show lol.

[stone creek]

I am running verify integrity right now it's patching hope this works I love this game and 100% support 🥴

[rocky plover]

I found it almost near the drilling thingy but idk other spawns

[gloomy wagon]

dont see the g3k

[full kite]

yea its called GA51 in game I got the name wrong

[raven schooner]

did they add the pvs-5s or were those just in the teaser image

[gloomy wagon]

mods are broken rn they need to be reoptimised

[subtle wadi]

Does anyone else have an idea where the laptop spawns

[stone creek]

@gloomy wagon I know I deleted the folders in pak file. But still no luck I'm hoping this verify process works

[shy tulip]

Don't seem to be in, I have to ask if that's intentional or a bug

[rocky plover]

Usually around the civilians too I think try looking for a laptop and a tripod

[stone bay]

So, what do you guys think of the update? Reading through the full changelog it seems that they have done alot

[weary furnace]

How many suspects there are on the new maps?

[frank yew]

Has anyone had there loadout keep resetting ?

[hazy spire]

Yes and the UI closes itself when trying to change customization

[rocky plover]

First 2 around 12 each, last 1 I had 24

[sinful stag]

John wick bots are crazy but will never be fixed

[weary furnace]

I seen someone having 40ish suspects on the yacht map and I was stunned to see that

[rocky plover]

Probably mods

[fallen plume]

thx

[shy tulip]

Has to be a mod

[weary furnace]

I thought so too but he said the mod shouldnt affect the suspect count

[shy tulip]

If the modder was the host, then yes it would

[rocky plover]

There are mods that do though

[potent stratus]

Anyone found the secret room?

[weary furnace]

Yeah I know there are mods that increases the suspect count

[frank yew]

Yikes

[weary furnace]

Yeah that would explain if it was a multiplayer lobby

[rocky plover]

Yeah check gen chat I just said it

[potent stratus]

The USIA, Judge and MLO lore is really going deeper here, seeing that the whole raid is because an USIA agent called Judge privately

[bitter mason]

looking at the replays for yatch
It took like 5 minutes or less for the suspects to start killing civvies

[grave crown]

how's the difficulty of new dlc maps?

[potent stratus]

Just like Elephant

[bitter mason]

only done one of them so far, its tricky in a tedious way
starts as a barricade suspects but can turn into active shooter if you dont arrest a specific suspect in time

a fairly neat idea, but could do with some work polishing certain stuff about it

[potent stratus]

I still don't see any connection between the assassination attempt from the trailer and the rest of the DLC

[bitter mason]

neither do void I bet

[teal oxide]

gusy what are the soft objectives in elysium hotel

[rocky plover]

First 2 missions average I'd say, last one I'd put in on port level difficulty xD due to suspect count

[potent stratus]

There are none, I just had my guys sweep for evidence and that's all

[proven blade]

Container

[teal oxide]

thank u

[potent stratus]

Oh really the container is a soft? I thought it was a main objective

[rocky plover]

The MLO room isn't part of the soft objectives??, I forgot after I finished it I quickly pressed return to station

[potent stratus]

Yeah it's not, I'll have to see it in the second playthrough becuase I tried to reach it while bots were cleaning up and then toc just told me to go home

[rocky plover]

Oh ok good I can save a slot and not take C2 then. Thanks.

[compact sequoia]

can someone tell me how different gun handling feels in the update compared to pre update, or gunfighter if you use that

[modest bear]

I found a bugged suspect in Ends of the Earth

I got ambushed while cuffing him, so he stood back up and now refuses to submit. He doesn't even do anything, just stands there and looks at me. I've tried pepper spray, shooting him with my beanbag shotgun, bashing him, everything

[teal oxide]

happens a lot

I didnt get S rank in oilrig cus a suspect got bugged and was supposedly standing but hew was kneeling

[potent stratus]

I had a similar situation where I forced suspect out of a closet on twisted nerve and he just stopped reacting to anything. But that was like a week ago

[void jacinth]

AI still pulling off 180 spin shots I see

[compact sequoia]

same, arrest cancelling feels buggy

[grave crown]

wym start as barricade suspect?

[bitter mason]

the old way gamemodes used to work
barricade suspect is basically most missions, suspects dont interact with civvies much other than taking them hostage as human shields
active shooter being like elephant, where suspects seek out civvies to kill

[grave crown]

ohh I see

[bitter mason]

kinda like how the old hostage mode worked, where suspects start shooting civvies when aggro'd but instead of being when they get a slight wiff of your presence its when one specific suspect on the level "gives them the order" however there is no voice line for him giving the order he just kinda does it through a hive mind I suppose

[grave crown]

so now we cam choose the difficulty in all map?

[bitter mason]

nope
no difficulty selector

[grave crown]

oh ok thx

[bitter mason]

I mean it as in when you start the level the suspects behave as though it is a barricade suspect level, so they hang around or wander the map, but then their behaviours can change to "active shooter" suspects depending on a specific event you have to try and prevent

[grave crown]

oh so when they notice us then they become active shooter

[bitter mason]

Ill play the other maps tomorrow, havent tried them out yet
just that one is a bit tedious
theres like 11 or 12 heavily armed suspects with armour
standard RON crazyness
a few dodgy spots where they can be hard to spot through windows and accross rooms

[grave crown]

like when hearing gunshot or see us

[fringe siren]

Did they make Ends of the Earth harder? There's like 6 suspects instead of 3...

[gloomy wagon]

bro the amount of fucking doors on the yacht

[bitter mason]

I actually dont know
I saw someone suggest it was based off of the hidden "stress level" suspects have but I dont think thats true. I had the guy order civvies being killed when he seemingly didnt know we were there. Its a bit random. you just have to be quick to arrest the primary suspect

[grave crown]

ugh then we need to speedrun

[bitter mason]

Ends of the earth always had around 6 suspects
the three brothers, their friend and two random cartel guys

[fringe siren]

there were never any cartel guys

[bitter mason]

there always was

[fringe siren]

I have never had more than 4 on that map

[bitter mason]

they're not in the breifing but they were always there
I have played ends of the earth many times
did you have an AI mod?

[fringe siren]

no

[grave crown]

there's 3 suspect in A Lethal Obsession

[errant musk]

Im gonna give every swat ai 7.62 nato

[bitter mason]

void like their doors....

this slow mode is killing me

[grave crown]

does new suspect squad behaviors affects difficulty a lot?

the route is meaningless if they keep moving around the map

[bitter mason]

depends, it can make engaging with suspects more annoying imo.
Its already bad enough with suspect aggression. But if you can clear good enough and get lucky you'll probably avoid them all rushing you. It doesnt feel like it changes too much tho, except when suspects fall back while shooting they will fall back to their friends instead of a random direction to probably flank you

[potent stratus]

God dammit I'm searching for that one dead dude at the boat, he was in the engine room previously but now I can't find him anywhere

[grave crown]

so if I kill or arrest suspects and don't let them fall back, it's ok?

[bitter mason]

I struggled to find many opportunities to wedge doors on yatch. Most of the doors lead to rooms that looped into other rooms like many of Ron's maps. Theres quite a few open rooms that are tricky to properly breach with AI and multiple open stairways to the different floors

[gloomy wagon]

he is in one of the freezer rooms with the clear plastic streamers then prolly, there's 2 locations for him. engine room and plaster streamer freezers

[potent stratus]

nevermind found him, yeah he was in one of the freezers

[bitter mason]

yeah pretty much, usually how engagements with suspects tend to go anyways so not too different really

[grave crown]

I see

[gloomy wagon]

bro wait if you detain sai'd he cant give the order to kill civilians right

[bitter mason]

yeah

[pure carbon]

Should the devs add the HK 417 in a future DLC?

[gloomy wagon]

say less so you js gotta run n gun to find bro and hope to god the girls on the boat arent getting dirtied on

[grave crown]

does he spawn in specific spot or random?

[queen cradle]

fellas i cannot find this last civilian on hospital, any ideas?

[grave crown]

kill the civil

[queen cradle]

[gloomy wagon]

nah it's so random like he can be where the helipad is where the guest rooms are, or he could be in the office, ive found him in the engine room once it's so bad

[grave crown]

damn that's bad

[bitter mason]

random
from what I've seen its out of two places, bottom floor around the engine room or middle floor centre room

[grave crown]

hmm I need to clear these two place first

[bitter mason]

when I did it I spawned at the first entry point and just sweeped through the bottom floor towards the engine room, if he isnt there then theres a good chance he already made the order and then I just restart lol

[grave crown]

it would be hard to do s rank

[bitter mason]

you'll know he makes the order because TOC will call and say there are active shooters in the area
for whatever reason they didnt bother doing any new voice lines relating to it. not even Sah'id has voice lines of him giving the order it just happens

[gloomy wagon]

bro this yacht map is a map you need to play w/ acc ppl cuz the IA is good n all but they're honest to god shit at covering your every movement honestly

[vague sparrow]

Did old TOC get fired???

[grave crown]

wdym

[gloomy wagon]

no it's the coast guard acting as toc in the yacht, and for any other maritime ops

[sinful stag]

How can the enemy shoot through anything but we cant????????????

[bitter mason]

They're just too slow for the dynamic and quick action the map wants from you at the start seemingly
and not dynamic enough to really tackle the larger more complex rooms
its a problem that ron's maps seem to be designed purely for COOP first
A coop designed map will play bad solo, but a solo designed map will play fine in both modes

[bitter mason]

it is a brand new TOC voice on all maps

[gloomy wagon]

oh wait frl?

[grave crown]

oh i loved old TOC voice ;-;

[bitter mason]

mhm
all the lines redone but mostly the same dialogue
nothing too new

[gloomy wagon]

there's a mod that brings him back

[grave crown]

oh mabe i can just use the voice file i backup before

[gloomy wagon]

or that

[gloomy wagon]

nah thats so real, the yacht is so packed tg and the ai can navigate it yeah but sometimes it's choppy, bro I can go into a room and it takes them literally more than 2 seconds to start following me, I ended up leaving cuz the AI were refusing to cover me a lot

[kind meadow]

Has anyone found the secret room yet? Me and a friend have been looking for a long time, found 3 voice recorders, the big flower symbol, and nothing else.

[bitter mason]

I had a number of weird things happen
a suspect surrendered in a hallway I send one of my guys to arrest him and then I go deal with another one in a different room, the suspect in the hall gets up and starts shooting at the guy I sent to arrest him, but the swat guy just sits there staring.
or another time where someone on the floor above dropped their gun, and the swat ai in their infinite wisdom really wanted to bag it up so they ran upstairs which I hadn't cleared yet and got a civilian killed

[median girder]

Can you guys change the look of the gasmask? I can't.

[strong pivot]

Omfg the damn reticles in long scopes finally work with DLSS!!!

[shy tulip]

Equip the gas mask > customization > gas mask

[bitter mason]

have you unlocked the other styles for it?

[median girder]

Yeah I tried to, but it doesn' change it. I can change the look of the mandibles though, the armoured face mask.

[hidden drift]

yo whats the "supporter edition"? i couldnt find it on steam, unless it means the one that packs together all dlc, music and base game

[shy tulip]

It is no longer for sale

[bitter mason]

supporter edition was during early access, it was a way of giving the devs extra money for development, the stuff you got were small extra goodies, it wasnt a DLC it was a way of supporting the devs

[hidden drift]

damn.

[bitter mason]

I believe the only way you could possibly get it now is through key sites, but even if you fond one for sale it will not be cheap
the supporter edition was an extra 60 quid or something. in terms of content you got a cosmetic set a couple unique weapons and shield I think and these two DLCs for "free"

[hazy spire]

I can't get any of the customization to remain, it resets everytime

[bitter mason]

yeah happens with me sometimes, only way around it is saving presets and using them. that should get around the issue

[shadow ether]

Oh snap, we finally got a g3! And a lot of other 308 options now! Let's absolutely go, I've been asking for it and now I have them

I wonder if the next DLC will give us a bunch of bullpups

[dark cove]

the helicopter FLIR is sick

[blissful harness]

Ngl, when I chose the helipad option in oil rig, I was like, "Hey, would they possibly make a scene of the team on helicopter as attention to detail?"
And they did!

[dark cove]

sick

[shy tulip]

Camera is also not usuable until the helicopter is in position

[shadow ether]

Considering that F90 is already in the game, we could probably get a bunch more bullpups, and a reason to use them in the next DLC. Some really claustrophobic maps to grab a bullpup rifle to.

[unreal pier]

is there no evidence in the new DLC

[weak leaf]

can you get achievements in mp now?

[lone cloud]

yes

[weak leaf]

ty

[merry arch]

This update was terrible

[warped cave]

[covert aurora]

And why do you say this?

[merry arch]

It just felt like a lifeless cash grab, this game is focused around cqb, we got gigantic rifles and our 70th mp5, all the new cosmetic stuff is absurdly out of place and all the qol stuff should’ve been in the game months if not a year ago

Every map just felt empty and dead, I get absolutely no rush from any of the new content added, everything felt dull, it just felt like some asset some modder dumped into the game with no story

[flat zenith]

does anyone know what i do with the keycard on leviathan?

[true panther]

Holy shit first run on Mirage at Sea and the internal layout is a goddamn labaryinth, truly an awesome CQC map thanks devs

[rich quartz]

The duality

[merry arch]

Lmaoooo, it’s appalling

[true panther]

That said with how fast the suspects seem to execute the civs I think the map might be a bit overtuned, you really gotta rush to save everyone

[rich quartz]

Elephant be like

[merry arch]

Give it like a week

[true panther]

Elephant isn't too bad, not that many rooms and only 4 suspects but Mirage at Sea feels extremely spread out with a ton of both suspects and civs that can be executed

[red hull]

Any new attachments added?

[true panther]

That said as just a map and setting alone Mirage at Sea is amazing, can't wait to see what the other 2 missions have in store for me

[rich quartz]

New sights and grips and uh that’s it

[blissful harness]

Now that he said this, I do think some of the cosmetics are out of place or just.. not good-looking (Of course, it's objective). However, I do like the more options of the rifles that use 7.62 rounds. He's also right that some features should've been deployed even before 1.0, but I wouldn't fuss too much about it, rather glad it's finally here and that the developers see eye to eye to what the players want instead. As for the maps, I haven't experienced them yet except briefly for the oil rig, I liked the vibe of it and the attention to detail of the team on the helicopter during the loading screen.

[red hull]

With this update?

[shy tulip]

There is a trick to save them all

check the achievements

[red hull]

That's good ready or not needed some new attachments

[blissful harness]

I also don't think this is essentially a "cash grab", the price seems justified for the maps just like the last DLC. It's not priced expensive, and the first map I experienced so far is pretty detailed.

Though there do are some capable modders out there who are able to provide this kind of content for free.

[verbal steeple]

welp im sad. HaveDoughnut's guns dont work this update for some reason

[rich quartz]

This mod will break a lot of mods lol

Just wait until more mods get updated, also the new TOC voice is cool

[merry arch]

They don’t really see eye to eye with us tho, they seem lost right now, both grips they added are extremely weird, the th grip while cool just does not fit this game at all, and the slanted grip just makes me angry, there’s gun added older than the character using them dawg, nobody asked for another mp5 its seem like they just brushed the surface of nexus and dipped their toe into one of each little niche gun community pond and then just threw it out, it genuinely feels lifeless and dull.

If they stayed in the direction they were going with previous update i personally would’ve enjoyed it more

It feels like they just rely on the modding community to keep this game afloat if it wasn’t for nexus this game would’ve died before they switched to unreal 5

[merry arch]

I do agree the pricing is fair

[merry arch]

And the maps are very pretty, just dead feeling to me

[true panther]

The slanted grip seems a bit odd but what is police-gear if not a bit odd? look at the history of police arms in multiple different countries, often you will find they adopt very strange gear either out of necessity(the gear is very useful in the specific contexts that police forces operate in) or out of surpluss(police forces often get military leftovers).

A lot of firearms that police use the US today would look somewhat out of place in the hands of soldiers for sure

[merry arch]

We have bump helmet that’s so old it looks like a bmx helmet

[red hull]

I wish you can choose where on your rail your sight goes i feel like the scope is too far and small

[merry arch]

And a flight suit?

[blissful harness]

Yeah, I really don't know why the flight suit is here, honestly.

[merry arch]

it’s weird bro

[merry arch]

It just feel weird and dead

[stone bay]

It's more of a retro update or something like that

[merry arch]

Wasn’t advertised that way

[stone bay]

I mean look at the guns and gear

[merry arch]

It didn’t even feel like they advertised it all, it really feel like they threw it out

[merry arch]

But all that doesn’t feel out of place to you at all?

Like a whole updated arsenal centered around history, with some 3 story yacht that has electronic locks while you raid it with a bmx helmet and a m14?

It feels like a fever dream dude

[stone bay]

I guess LE Agencies just got a shitty budget and they're stuck from old shit from the 20th century lul

[merry arch]

You just ripped some copium bud

[stone bay]

I don't know, I didn't really care about the gear anyway

And its not like you're being forced to raid it with that kinda gear

[blissful harness]

Well, they're a relatively small studio. Although they're now possibly capable at developing the experience based on gunplay (Wouldn't say the overall SWAT experience, as they're still exploring to develop different AI behaviours), advertising definitely isn't their strong suit.

[merry arch]

Oh I’ll just use the same crap I’ve been using for the past few months…

[merry arch]

Previous updates were advertised very well imo, this just felt like it was tossed to us

[stone bay]

And hey maybe some people wanna use retro stuff, they added 90s SWAT shit in the game in 1.0

[merry arch]

Yea and that’s cool but why is all the gear 90s swat shit

[blissful harness]

Oh, yeah, should probably word it better: They failed in advertising the message what the gears this update has represent.

Most don't even feel like gears related to maritime operations but just old school SWAT gears.

[stone bay]

Dunno, ran out of ideas I guess lul

[merry arch]

We have a community alive and thriving full of them tho?

[blissful harness]

Still, I wouldn't complain about the weapon. I always had a dream of wielding M14.

[stone bay]

Well? What do you think they should have added instead

[blissful harness]

I think for example, they could've added modern gears and guns, like M14 that isn't with wooden frame and the new Army rifle the US Army is about to adapt for 7.62 rifles.

[stone bay]

Battle rifles for CQB is a strange but cool choice lol

[stone bay]

Yeah, but what kinda gears and guns?

[blissful harness]

Guns are what I mentioned, as for gears... I'm not familiar with gears that's designed for maritime operations.

[stone bay]

Me personally I thought of like using Scuba diving gear

[strong mason]

It's a shit choice

[stone bay]

Absolutely but its pretty fucking cool

[strong mason]

For a CQC game? It's so out of place for the maps we have. This isn't Ground Branch.

They're getting out of touch here with the direction the game is heading now...

[merry arch]

I completely agree

Hopefully we get surfboards and flip flops next update, maybe a rocket launcher?

[strong mason]

I hate to have to say these things, as a big supporter of RoN as a whole, but this is just a gigantic disappointment as a whole.

[merry arch]

At this rate we’re getting chainmail next

[strong mason]

Cool things here and there, but overall a miss for me

[rich quartz]

Guys my water is dark

[strong mason]

Excaliber when?

[lone cloud]

the maps are nice but they need more enemies theyre too empty and easy tbh

[merry arch]

Apparently the next year, at the rate we receive content

[strong mason]

Absolutely agree dude

[merry arch]

They feel dead man

[strong mason]

Sadly, very much so

Especially the last map, it's gigantic. It has a good chunk of suspects, but needs a tad more

[merry arch]

Soon we will be raiding caves hunting for cavemen

[rich quartz]

Rainbow six t hunt mod will fix this once it gets updated

[merry arch]

Jesus Christ couldn’t fix this damage

[prime wing]

Since the guns are free i dont see the issue. People can simply not use what they dont want to. Stuff in this game already doesnt make sense maps wise or scenarios. Adding more weapons isn’t hurting anyone if its free

[rich quartz]

Are you okay? Would you like some tea?

[merry arch]

I need the copium you’re using

[strong mason]

I understand and yes, you're right. I am just expressing my opinion on the matter.

[merry arch]

Why is he getting attacked for an opion

[compact sequoia]

idk i prefer what we got over another ar variant

[merry arch]

Valorant update when?

[rich quartz]

I like free guns :3 (I never use them I default to the arn 180)

Gunfighter mod please come out soon 😫

[prime wing]

Both who like it or those who dont can agree that its still more room for modding to play with. Before 1.0, it was hard to add obscure weapons since the animations and scaling didnt work well universally

[stone bay]

Besides the guns and gear, what do you guys think of the update?

[merry arch]

maps are okay feel dead

[merry arch]

What if we got the sdk this update?

[blissful harness]

Haven't tried the maps completely yet, only experienced a little of oil rig.
My focus was on gears since I like dressing up.
So don't have much of an option.

[stone bay]

How about the performance, any better?

[prime wing]

There are still features being evaluated for implementation and tested. Dont think its gonna happen for a while

Unfortunately

[compact sequoia]

feels the same or maybe slightly better than pre update

so good i guess considering the tendency of the game's performance getting worse with every update

[merry arch]

lies, youre being spoon fed while rons new beanie from their new merch covers your eyes blinding you

[stone bay]

the blindbeanie

[merry arch]

ron is going to fail when the modding community dies

pray ballistic and doughnut stay

[stone bay]

AVP And Beyker are sad now

[merry arch]

Them too

Sorry ladies

[balmy peak]

Anyone else having a issue where NVG's or gasmask or both dont show up in 3rd person on your character for screenshots? But they show up on the AI teammates.

[merry arch]

wrong channel bub

[balmy peak]

rip does this fall under bug reports or something? Even if its a question?

[merry arch]

yea

are you using any mods

[balmy peak]

Yeah A couple. But none that mess with the NVG's or marks.

[stone bay]

That JPC mod Rac commissioned to Ballistic should be coming out this month

[warm lake]

What the heck
I didnt think they would release another dlc this early

[fleet minnow]

They took my Peltors!

[merry arch]

idk might just be a bug on a unfinished game with paid dlc, give it another six months?

[solid laurel]

why're you so negative?

[balmy peak]

copy

[merry arch]

sorry man im just dissapointed

[stone bay]

Can't you just buy one? Is FISA's budget tight as well

[balmy peak]

Same here Man

[merry arch]

it sucks dude, been here since the beta dude

[solid laurel]

what exactly is dissapointing abt it? genuinely curious, bcs I find this game pretty good

[balmy peak]

I feel your pain.

[strong mason]

Ditto

[merry arch]

you obviously are'nt very cag, scroll up senior, i played this game almost everyday for a year when all the new content was mods, im sick of waiting 4 garbage

[small oriole]

Hmmm I see some people mentioning it here, just to confirm, on the yacht map if you dont detain the main guy fast enough, that is what triggers the suspects to kill civies? Even if I detain every guard I see instantly after some time random civies halfway across the ship start getting capped 😭

[true panther]

Holy shit the resort level is truly on another level of CQC fuckery

[vague sparrow]

So since the new update came out has the performance on PCs give better FPS?

[fleet minnow]

Everyone is getting defunded.

[balmy peak]

honest no idea

[merry arch]

including los suenos swat

[fleet minnow]

Except for the USIA.

[placid horizon]

to be fair id get bored of a game if i played it every day for a year

[stone bay]

never stop cagging

[solid laurel]

If you're sick of it, then stop playing. Don't just complain

[strong mason]

Is dude not allowed to express his opinions?

[merry arch]

next raid we go into it with nothing but our fists and beat a suspect and then take HIS gear

[balmy peak]

Its more of the fact that the fix's take to long and simple things like having both Nods and Gas Masks shouldn't take months or a year to give us the option to have both.

[solid laurel]

oh by all means he can, but if he's not gonna be constructive about it, might as well just leave

[placid horizon]

let me summarize this as quickly as i can; suspects have a stress level that can be increased by anything done by swat. yelling, shooting, grenades, kicking doors, anything that you do can raise suspect stress. the key suspect on yacht has a very low stress threshold which when triggered causes him to order civilians to be killed, shifting the map to an active shooter. your primary target should be locating and apprehending him first, i was lucky enough that he spawned in the first room i cleared

[strong mason]

[merry arch]

its already uninstalled

[solid laurel]

then stop complaining, it's not your problem anymore

[merry arch]

ok christmas tree

[placid horizon]

that literally has nothing to do with what the guy said but i still agree with you; content shouldnt take this long

[merry arch]

do you have a tochonker?

[placid horizon]

calm down there dawg you have 550 hours on a game that youre complaining about

[tired sparrow]

How the new AI feel when they see you
https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-gun-gif-reverse-michael-jackson-gun-gif-michael-jackson-aim-gun-reverse-michael-jackson-aim-gun-gif-14571008092837303257

[small oriole]

thank you brother

[placid horizon]

stress mechanics apply to all suspects btw; at certain stress thresholds in general suspects may start killing civilians, or depending on the type of suspect will either get more aggressive or hide

additionally i believe stress interacts with the new rallying mechanics now; stressed out suspects may rally with eachother

[placid horizon]

idk about this part though this is an assumption

[merry arch]

i miss old ron

[true panther]

Holy cow the murder holes everywhere on Elysium are truly devious

[balmy peak]

Before UE5?

[solid laurel]

Yk, idt I've had the guy give orders to kill yet

[merry arch]

yea :/

[small oriole]

seems likely. I know elephant was the map before where suspects would hunt civies after a certain amount of time, but this new map I feel like I clear only half the ship before the civies die. Good to know though

[placid horizon]

old ron was playable but the quality of the gameplay wasnt as good; new ron is unplayable for many (not me though :>) and has better but not great gameplay quality

[placid horizon]

i havent played through the map twice so i wouldnt know

[balmy peak]

Yeah before UE5 they kinda had it all working especially with all the Modder's.

[fervent orbit]

can you cancel your arrest animation now

[true panther]

Old RON was more 'realistic' in the sense that people hiding in a room waiting for you to come through a door are likely to kill you when you walk through that door which isn't necessarily fun but is very realistic

[merry arch]

we were a community back them, they actually listened

[balmy peak]

I feel that they now go on hunting / flanking missions to find you instead of Hiding

[wraith arrow]

my mods die

[balmy peak]

facts

[wraith arrow]

I'm trying to start the game after updating it and it doesn't work

[balmy peak]

anymods?

[wraith arrow]

a lot

[placid horizon]

i will say this though; i was underwhelmed by the dlc as a whole. i definitely enjoyed it, the maps are well made, i appreciate the attention to detail and the easter eggs, but my main complaints are that none of the maps really hit as hard & island felt a little empty/bland. i.e. i was expecting something a little more interesting to cap off the yacht map, we have this entire briefing talking about how this dude is an international trafficker etc etc and the "big reveal" at the end of the map is another dead body to tack on to all the suspects you just killed. island is an interesting premise, although i feel like more interactability with the kidnapped agent wouldve made it a little more nerve-wracking rather than the same 3 voicelines on repeat with the uselessly interactable chemicals behind him. oil rig definitely wouldve hit a little harder if we didnt see the hanging coming & if it was a little more gruesome (i had this same complaint about lawmaker; these guys are supposed to be terrorists and in lawmaker they havent killed anyone)

[strong mason]

Take them out of the .pak folder, or start in Safe Mode

[placid horizon]

no ones reading allat but i sitll wanted to say it 🙏

[balmy peak]

any custom weapons that rely on item asset unlocker should be removed

[wraith arrow]

noooo, my glock 17 :(

[balmy peak]

It kept crashing my game with the Glock and Staccato I had.

[placid horizon]

also the radio interactions with COAST make no sense; on rig we radio to COAST to tell them that the rig has been taken over as if we didnt already know that

[strong mason]

It's a big let down man, I feel your pain dude

[merry arch]

nah man i agree

[strong mason]

[placid horizon]

the examples i always like to go with is narcos and port; theyre both maps that had heavy hitting reveals at the end that genuinely stoked a reaction from me

[merry arch]

its missing this raunch it once had

[merry arch]

or the voll house

[strong mason]

Yeah dude, those were well implimented, nothing blows me away about the DLC missions. They looks great, but that's about it.

[placid horizon]

i think void couldve pulled off the narrative in these maps alot better if they made them a little more ready-or-not-y

[merry arch]

top tier content back then

[strong mason]

Totally agree brother

[balmy peak]

mhm

[wraith arrow]

work again

[balmy peak]

your welcome

[placid horizon]

opening a door to find a dude crawling around in a puddle of his own blood after being tortured just hits you like a brick wall; and entering into a hospital to recover civilians and eventually finding IEDs planted among bullet-riddled walls and broken sprinklers just gives you a feel to the whole thing

[weary verge]

it is a bmx helmet

[wraith arrow]

my mod of the realistic TOC :(

i really like that voice (I couldn't understand anything)

[placid horizon]

i feel like void is almost scared to go hard with these maps even though theyve done it before and i dont know why

[strong mason]

Yeah this DLC lacked anything gritty, which is a huge damn letdown

[strong mason]

You might be right bro...

[placid horizon]

i think rig was supposed to be our gritty one similar to narcos but you cant even find the bodies unless youre searching the entire rig top to barely accessible bottom and you cant get close to secure them or investigate

[merry arch]

it feels lifeless man

[shy tulip]

They literally hung three poor oilworkers off of the oil rig with the message 'profit today judgement tomorrow'

[placid horizon]

thats a perfect word

[shy tulip]

And then made it a big focal point of the trailer

[merry arch]

ron beanie blinder

[balmy peak]

Exactly. Its likes its on Life support but Life support aint working.

[placid horizon]

ok but like there are dead bodies in every ron map

[merry arch]

exactly

[placid horizon]

theres no shock factor behind seeing a few corpses from 50m away

[strong mason]

It is a cool touch, but I was hoping for some cool surprises, which we usually find on older maps or the previous DLC

[shy tulip]

Yeah but it's usually suspects or cops or in-between

This is just poor working people who got hung for being oil workers

[weary verge]

I like the 90's seal gear they're going for, doesn't get enough love in games

[merry arch]

death is mean of this game dude, its like time its just a constant

[placid horizon]

nightclub hospital port to name a few

[wraith arrow]

Yooooo, i got a new scope

[merry arch]

voll basement

[wraith arrow]

yooooo, i got new weapons

[strong mason]

[merry arch]

i did too

[placid horizon]

i understand what youre getting at and its an interesting view point to consider but the reason i enjoy ron so much is because of the shock that comes with some maps; i genuinely didnt expect the ending to narcos and it was something that genuinely grossed me out a little

[balmy peak]

I have yet to find em lol

[placid horizon]

im not saying every map needs to have a gritty shock ending like that

[merry arch]

thats why im upset no shock, no suspense, just bang and clear

[placid horizon]

but for example yacht has the same type of buildup like narcos did with civilian voicelines hinting at it, blood trails, etc and its just a dead body

[merry arch]

bang and clear

[wraith arrow]

yo, the new mods for the guns are like the mods for the gun ins EFT

[placid horizon]

looking back at lawmaker these are supposed eco-terrorists and there wasnt a single dead body to be found before the LSPD got there

[merry arch]

im ripping my eyes out my skull rn

[placid horizon]

i absolutely enjoyed the DLC but these maps seem like their fillers similar to 32mb or data center; theyre good, engaging maps to play but theres nothing really crazy behind them

they have reveals but they arent that crazy reveals like the ones ive already mentioned

[wraith arrow]

why?

[merry arch]

but even data center was dark, all those servers hosted cheese, plus it was fun to clear

[placid horizon]

i found the maps fun to clear depending on my approach and in a way all the maps in ron are dark

[balmy peak]

I just want to get my staccato back lol

[merry arch]

dark metaphorically

[placid horizon]

in the defense of the dlc maps we looked at a human trafficker, a eco terrorist group hanging civilians and biochemical warfare, which are all dark topics, but they were emphasized nor framed by the maps

speaking of which the reveal on island was also sub par, the chemical bomb was something i saw and was like "oh cool, ok lets go"

[merry arch]

yea but they felt dead man

just empty, like a prettyy girl whos boring, just fun to look at

[placid horizon]

i think void in combination with what i said before is focusing too much on the literal story behind the maps and is straying away from what makes the other maps so good

[strong mason]

Seeing the dirty bomb was so lack-luster for me sadly...

[wraith arrow]

YOOO NEW TOC?

[placid horizon]

yea like its cool but like i kinda just scrolled past it

[merry arch]

you have to be 14

[wraith arrow]

tf, not men

[placid horizon]

having to go in and locate/defuse it or evac civilians before it pops off wouldve been a far more nerve-wracking experience

[merry arch]

12?

[balmy peak]

mhm

[wraith arrow]

the english is not my languaje

[placid horizon]

the only redeeming quality of this dlc is if its building to something else

[strong mason]

Yeah I stared at it a bit, interacted, then left unamused

[placid horizon]

as in this is a filler between whats happened before and whats happening later; which should not be a dlc regardless but still

[merry arch]

sorry, enjoy yhe update

[strong mason]

Idk why this wasn't implemented!

[placid horizon]

i do fw the new intro animations though 🙏

[balmy peak]

prolly would take them way to much time to even have something like that work.

[placid horizon]

yea tbf if it takes them this long to combo nvgs with gas masks then a feature like that would take longer than an average ron bug fix

[merry arch]

6 months

[strong mason]

Wouldn't be much different than a bomb defusal mission type, simply prompt the civies to exfil

[placid horizon]

one thing ill always talk shit about void for is the fact that they claimed a bunch of delays were caused by internal restructuring and it feels like theyre slower now than theyve ever been before

[strong mason]

[placid horizon]

i understand the need for quality but quality checking 3 maps and a few features shouldnt take half a year

[balmy peak]

🤣 I get it they had a defusal on the school map but for the new one it would have been wack if it was the same way to defuse.

[rich quartz]

New toc yay :3

[merry arch]

YES YES YESSSS

[strong mason]

Preach

[balmy peak]

Exactly

[merry arch]

L rage bait

[rich quartz]

wha :c nuuu

[wraith arrow]

the G3 is so broke my men

[placid horizon]

defusing is something very hard to pull off in games in their defense; its either the way void does it or a minigame that breaks immersion

[balmy peak]

Yeah the new uniform they came out with clips in my character. gota Love it

[merry arch]

6 month wait time

[balmy peak]

Specifically my arms.

[wraith arrow]

where is my M16A2?

[merry arch]

another 6 months

[wraith arrow]

well, better that nothing

[balmy peak]

We prolly Lucky if it even is going to be in 6months at this point

[placid horizon]

i hold out hope that my last conclusion is correct; this dlc is used to build story and produce more environments (maritime) for the LSPD to operate in for the coming 1.1 and further dlcs

[merry arch]

6 months later

[placid horizon]

real

[wraith arrow]

wait... "TOC to snipers?"

[balmy peak]

I feel that they lost the vision and priority of things. Back in the day it was good. Now its like "Hopefully they come out with an update"

[placid horizon]

its a reference to our newly acquired battle rifles

[merry arch]

exactlyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[coral rock]

ready or not more like uhhhhhhh......ready or peak

[balmy peak]

🤣

[merry arch]

(loud buzzer noise)

[balmy wasp]

it'd be nicer if we got post mission debriefs to know what the fuck was actually going on in missions

[placid horizon]

this is actually a really good ide

debriefs with interrogation details, overall reports by investigators and more in depth interactions with team members

[strong mason]

That would be cool

[frail pier]

Yo one of the officers in the locker rooms is arguing with another for sleeping with his wife.

[nova gust]

wait fr?

[shy tulip]

Is that what the convo is about? I doubt it

[nova gust]

entry team to toc: officer down, friendly fire

[frail pier]

I heard like half but it sounded like it lol.

[placid horizon]

it's not about his wife

[frail pier]

What's it about? I wasn't expecting that and missed the context

[fickle totem]

I think it’s trying to point towards the “locker room” talk

[frail pier]

Is that what they call it now

What was it about initially. I couldn't get it to play again.

[modest bear]

Does Sins of the Father have any soft objectives?

[wraith arrow]

i guy get PSTD be cause i shoot them

[tough valve]

Damn

I can't find the last civvie on the yacht. I even did a search and secure and my guys didn't find them

[shy tulip]

Remember they hide in corners of rooms or could be at your spawn

[wise smelt]

New update, more bugs

[shy tulip]

Search and secure only works if you or the SWAT AI saw them, and the civ is surrendered

[tough valve]

Easily the worst part of this game and the one thing I'm a little upset they haven't fixed still is the whole song and dance of having to sweep the entire map looking for the one or two civilians that are hiding in some nonsensical spot

[fervent orbit]

did we find the hidden mlo room yet 🧐

[tough valve]

Oh thank god I found them eventually

[wise smelt]

Ikr, I love Ready or Not and will support Void, but is it that hard to have play testers or the devs play the game for a bit to try and locate any bugs and fix it before release?

[tough valve]

Daymnn I managed to A rank the yacht, that was unexpected

[balmy wasp]

Yeah I’m surprised it isn’t a thing, I know it’s not the job of the swat team to be invested in that sort of thing, just go in and work, but if they want us to be invested in the overall story we need an after action report to see how it all went

[tough valve]

I was not expecting to A rank it on my first successful run. First two I failed but mostly because I was trying the MP5SD out

Friendship ended with MP5, now HK51 is my new best friend

[wraith arrow]

yoooo, the new animatimacions are so fucking good

[velvet steeple]

woah the head customization changed

[tough valve]

Can we equip balaclavas in quick play yet?

[velvet steeple]

so there’s no reason to not have NVG now?

[balmy wasp]

Pretty much, just always run em

[velvet steeple]

neat

[tiny quail]

ngl im gonna miss old toc voice, but i like this new one too

he has a bit more sass

[tough valve]

Does he replace TOC in all missions?

[tiny quail]

replaying streamer to test out the new guns rn, so far i think so

[tough valve]

Isn't that like... the third TOC we've had now?

[velvet steeple]

are red dots less jank now? feels like I can actually see it

[tiny quail]

"beautiful, keep em comin"

[velvet steeple]

man it shoulda been several so it feels like there’s multiple operators

[red hull]

Are the nvgs bugged for som

My white phosphorous isn't working

[tardy light]

Are mods still working?

[wraith arrow]

i love that voice

sounds sadistic/pretty excited about his job lol

[tiny quail]

my mod loadout is tweaking out because i have gunfighter and put nvgs on before having the multiple facewear options

[tiny quail]

imo beats the always serious guy we had before

[velvet steeple]

is it possible to put a mag back in the front of the pistol carbine thing

[wraith arrow]

The other one was bored of reporting on our (I don't remember what it's called when you kill a civilian) and they hired this guy

"score one for the good guys" BRUUUUUUUUUUUH

[hollow cliff]

yessir

[hexed galleon]

Just spent an entire hour on twisted nerve looking for the last crim, he was hiding in a closet and when i shot him the bullet went through the wall and hit my ai teamate who shot me in the head. Ultimate hide and see sucks

[wraith arrow]

same thing but with the spider

the last guy is in the store lol

[hexed galleon]

spent the whole mission trying to 100% just to get 1 tapped by my own officer

silly as heck

[thorn egret]

Huh, got no mods but I can still only launch the game w/safe mode, weird

[tiny quail]

probably somewhat unrealistic but shi i already got me and my mates in shorts and hawaiian shirts raiding a crackhouse we might as well

[rare estuary]

Thoughts on dlc?

[wraith arrow]

Well... the North Hollywood shooting, the SWAT came dressed in shorts lol

[tiny quail]

Is it the one where two guys has a buncha weapons and ammo and after robbing a bank gets into a hours long gunfight

[wraith arrow]

yeap

[tiny quail]

oh yea I've seen people talking about it before (ty wendigoon)

[wraith arrow]

Look for it, the officers when they discovered that only their feet had no protection, they threw themselves to the ground and started shooting.

can i send a link for a picture?

[errant musk]

Ah yes underfunded lspd just bought a blackhawk

[wraith arrow]

"The station is falling apart, but we can buy 5 40K NVGS for each SWAT member"

[umbral oar]

and the logitech peripherals

[wraith arrow]

"noooootifying medicals"

[covert aurora]

waits paiently for update to finish

[wraith arrow]

I have a theory: to cut costs, the LSPD hired a generation Z f*ckboy from tiktok to be the new TOC

[velvet steeple]

it ain’t that bad

[covert aurora]

soooooo, Michael Williams?

[wraith arrow]

Nah, I say the same thing, I just find it funny XD

"we can BELIEVE there are explosives" Bro you are sending a team of 5 guys to try and stop some armed and angry veterans 💀

[errant musk]

And a chopper

[wraith arrow]

I'm trying to get through Ironman mode, as soon as I get to Idees de March

[velvet steeple]

for some reason I feel like I remember a swat sniper

was something like that ever added to this game

[ocean rapids]

did the update change Dorms lighting? It's more brighter than i remember

[wraith arrow]

Thx god for the cancel arrest I ALMOST DIE

you, new enemy in idus of march?

"Federals are coming TF?

the new TOC is a FISA agent?

[languid lantern]

who knows.

[wraith arrow]

you

i am waiting the catholic guy

[errant musk]

Poor old TOC got fired

[warped cave]

Does anyone know where the hidden body spawns (all the spawnpoints)

Found it

[velvet steeple]

best rifle for full auto?

[ashen kestrel]

Yo dudes is the dlc any good?

[dim raptor]

Yesss

[stoic vortex]

only complain about the new TOC is not enough "Put em on safe and let em hang"

[stable kernel]

No

Say sike

[red hull]

Any chances we could get free maps too?

[shy tulip]

Soon™️ (maybe)

Free content drop next year

[frigid shell]

So when will balaclavas be a thing?

[shy tulip]

They are in COOP characters but not sp

[frigid shell]

I can’t find it in COOP either. Where is the option?

[shy tulip]

They're character heads, I forgot their name, Echo I think

[frigid shell]

Ohh I see

And one more question, even tho your character sounds like Judge to you in coop, does it sound like the character voice you chose to the other players?

[stoic vortex]

Oil Rig is a bit personal cus my dad worked with numeral rigs on sea

[shy tulip]

If you are the host, you will be Judge, because only Judge has command lines, other people can choose other characters

[shy tulip]

How often would you say they hit an air pocket that unleashes hell itself

[frigid shell]

Ahh I see

[red hull]

Nice

I wish they add a coal mine map mines was a coal miner

[stoic vortex]

idk, he was the safety supervisor for ropes

for maintenance and repair crew.

(i get to save dad!!!!)

[tough valve]

What body armor do the oil rig suspects have? They don't visually have any armor but 9x19 wasn't doing jack or shit to half of them

[wild shadow]

Is there any way to get civies to come to you after you bring order to chaos

[shy tulip]

You must put out a mistletoe

[crude prism]

About 40% light armor (L2), 40% heavy armor (Armor4), and 20% unarmored

[rich quartz]

Anyone test the other mods?

[tough valve]

Dang.
Does admittedly kind of annoy me that Void are super over zealous with equipping suspects with heavy armor, since it kinda renders most of the SMG category pointless

[crude prism]

JHP time, rip those limbs

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/prodigal-son-returns-gif-8468085120694418496

[crude prism]

I'm here to yap an occasionally assist people with dodgy information!

[stable kernel]

Spreadsheet update when

[tiny quail]

i may or may not buy dark waters should i chat

[crude prism]

it's getting there, Void added a new armor type worn by literally 1-2 dudes in the entire game and I'm gonna have to bloat up so much shit for that or just add a disclaimer somewhere

[stable kernel]

What is it? This is news to me

I guess it makes sense since we got new 308 weapons

[tiny quail]

wait does buying the dlc means i have to download it to the game or is it already available with the fuck-ton 18gb update earlier

[thorn egret]

Welp, before I go to sleep
Ngl Dark Waters has my favorite maps in the entire game so far; Oil Rig is stupidly fun, though I can't find the hanging thing which def would've added to the environment- LOVE it though
And
@tiny quail Already downloaded

[tiny quail]

okie dokie, thanks

[crude prism]

it's lvl 1 armor, it only blocks 9mm, 10mm, and .45 JHP rounds

it doesn't even block buckshot

[stable kernel]

Oh

I uh

But why?

[crude prism]

Ask voop, it's literally only assigned to one loadout on the "Island" map

[shy tulip]

makes sense

[crude prism]

Not used anywhere else in the game (I checked literally every suspect achetype)

"ganger" is gonna feel really smug when he successfully blocks (one) rounds of 9mm JHP

[sharp folio]

60gb update am i seeing things

or did i accidentally uninstall the game

[shy tulip]

It is updating 60gb worth of files, yes

It is not a 60gb download

[sharp folio]

okay just making sure

[stable kernel]

followed by a stream of 29 more

[rich quartz]

Anyone have luck with cosmetic mods?

[shy tulip]

Probably broken and will take longer to fix

At least if modders use the nameplate system

[rich quartz]

Some seem to work

[tough valve]

What the hell. Unauthorized use of force? HE WAS SLOWLY RAISING HIS GUN TOWARDS ME HOW IS THAT UNAUTHORIZED? HIS GUN WAS POINTED AT ME?!

He was putting his gun down, and then he slowly started raising it back up. That should be an authorized shoot

The animations are cool but they yet again really need to fix the ROE again

[rich quartz]

No mercy mod works btw

[tough valve]

I don't want to completely remove the ROE, but I do want them to make the ROE make sense

[strange depot]

The new toc voice is way better

[shy tulip]

Unrealistic and maybe annoying for some, but I love those animations. Even if the gun is pointed at you, makes you think longer and be ready to fight for the chance for them to drop it

[stone vigil]

Agreed, also nice to see some attatchements on suspect weapons, it's a good QOL feature

[rich quartz]

No mercy mod: that’s a mag dump

[rapid violet]

Did they change some graphical effects...like bloom, or something? Started the game yesterday and haven't played since short after home invasion...and it felt, like there was more bloom!? Like volumetric light, or blooming.

[fleet minnow]

Mission Failed, the mission will be passed over to FISA. We'll take it from here.

[rich quartz]

Time to mod test

[strange depot]

The helicopter overwatch is their answer to finding that last pesky civilian or suspect? TBH it doesn’t work really well. Everyone is mostly inside

[noble pasture]

For me it kept finding a cuffed civie

[strange depot]

I’m still finding the swat ai to still have issues. I don’t think it was tested on the dlc maps because there are some doors or areas they have trouble with

[noble pasture]

They fixed clipping vest strap

[civic adder]

Personally i'd rather have the realism of "hey this guy is holding a gun in my direction and not dropping it, guess he gets the forever sleep" than spamming F hoping he drops it

Void successfully made a map worse than the post office to clear, impressive

[shy tulip]

Skill issue

[civic adder]

I mean ive S ranked post office too, doesnt mean leviathan isnt a nightmare to clear or navigate

ofc ive only got <1hr experience on it so far tbf

[noble pasture]

Did someone get the 2 30 meter shots?

On Oil Rig, the enemy seems to engage you 10 meters at most

[harsh vigil]

Spawn on helipad, and hope two enemies spawn just to the left

That was my last achievement, so I just kept starting the mission over and over until there was at least one dude way out there

[noble pasture]

Do the suspects have to be incap or killed?

[harsh vigil]

It calls for headshots, so more than likely killed

I used the M14 so…

[rapid violet]

Is Oilrig any good, worth to buy this DLC?

[noble pasture]

its good, guaranteed you gonna get injured

[rapid violet]

Do you have this ragdoll bug, too - where shot suspects take off, after getting a headshot? The fly up, like 2m in the air and fall down...like they stepped on a land mine, or something.

[hoary stump]

Definitely worth imo, all three maps are fun and different

[rapid violet]

This ragdoll madness sometimes breaks the immersion. Not sure why this is still not fixed. It's mostly when suspects are close to walls and get shot, their body goes crazy sometimes. Looks more like you shot them with some kind of gravity gun.

[desert pollen]

It's because the DLC is on the moon

[rapid violet]

Haha, maybe the whole game takes place on mars. It was like this since Early Access...and it's still there.