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[noble pasture]

Yes

Bean bag also has good surrender chance

[fervent terrace]

ok ill try

[noble pasture]

But beware of accidental throat and head shots

Also unlike pepper ball gun, bean bag and tazer do not need you to yell

Can zap a bomber without warning

[fervent terrace]

nice

[noble pasture]

I once tapped a bomber in the chest with bean bag because he was hiding around the corner

Gave up instantly

[radiant zealot]

Straight bars 🔥

[runic pelican]

Can anyone tell me any tips with hide and seek?

[deep rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydZPCWVZT8 my non lethal run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ3GnoyA1Wg my lethal run

This is with 1.0 terminator AI 🙂

So should be quite doable by now with all the nerfs

[runic pelican]

What gun did you use?

[deep rain]

For lethal SA-58 with AP

For non lethal, pepperball

[lusty skiff]

Try to find what works for you. But if you carry hard hitting lethal, you don't need to carry as much ammunition, freeing up spots for tactical gear.

I use beanbag shotgun for my less lethal runs, and SLR47 for lethal (hard to handle on full auto, but absolutely lethal if you are accurate with your single shots). So I usually carry only two magazines, tops 3 for the largest maps.

[runic pelican]

Alright thanks so much

[coarse osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZc4iIUBYw

new RoN map idea

[deep rain]

Now that I just watched my old 1.0 run, I gotta say I miss the tension. Imho the game desperately needs difficulty options, like any other good game has.

[potent stratus]

There are a few mods for that

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3169
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/797

Both are good

[deep rain]

Thx

[runic pelican]

Real

[deep rain]

200h?? How many times did you play through the campaign lol

🙂

[noble pasture]

Hmm, can the player take point with a shield in singleplayer?

Aiming the sidearm is hard

Its offset to low compared with center of the screen

I am confused

[deep rain]

Man, I really miss the old farm villa map and to be frank the old port hokan was also better in terms of room clearing and gameplay, at least in my opinion

[noble pasture]

Tapped 3 suspects in the head on gas station and made a 4th choke on his own blood. A+ grade

How?

[jolly verge]

Because there only 4 suspects

you lose only 120 points

[deep rain]

yes Ides has good concise gameplay, I like it too. Along with spider and hotel

[noble pasture]

What about shield use tips?

No I mean aiming is too low

[deep rain]

use laser

[noble pasture]

With laser

Aim for chest and you hit him in the balls

[deep rain]

you got me confused when mentioning "small" and "relapse" in the same sentence ;D

[noble pasture]

Well tehnically Relapse used to have a smaller version

Check this, so a suspect takes a hostage and glass in the way. You can only make out the heads. Tap the suspect in the head?

[deep rain]

Depends on your skill 😄

I am completely with you. In my irrelevant opinion on the matter, I think it was a design mistake to make maps with looooong line of sights while not supporting appropriate gameplay. The SWAT AI cannot handle it (shouting continously at a distance while the suspect doesn't even realize you are there), the shoot outs don't work well, and it's generally a clusterF unless you play military multiplayer style, taking everyone out.
While the CQB part of the game is working very well, and that's what the design is mainly about.

[noble pasture]

Got the suspect on first try

[deep rain]

Absolutely, I also didn't want to bash on the AI, but you can tell that the entire development focus was put on having the AI do room clearing. There is no philosophy for long range fire fight. No commands, no behavior. And the behavior we have for CQB doesn't fit that long range fire fight environment. That's basically all I was trying to say. The AI is good at what it does and was designed for (CQB), and for exactly that reason, I think level design should have constrained itself to those well working use cases.

I think it doesn't matter too much though. Where it matters is basically Port Hokan, the whole frontal truck area and warehouse lanes, and to a degree on greased palms.

Yeah, I like too. The bane of new players 😄

[bitter mason]

The ai certainly can be good but the thing I will always rag on it for is that it's too shootery
Doesn't feel quite as good as swat 4s despite having things that swat 4s ai didn't have

[deep rain]

If I could only figure out how exactly the pathfinding bug occurs, when your stack doesn't enter on command and one guy wanders off to the distance. I had whole evenings without it ever happening, then on other evenings it was happening constantly.

[bitter mason]

The swat ai is definitely very good it just has a few rough edges
They're a bit too strict with following their pathing on room clears and get too excited to pick up evidence and such
And yeah the bugs

And I feel some of the maps really aren't designed for them
Too many open spaces in some maps

[frail pier]

Relapse and neon are bae

[tiny mountain]

+1 for Greased Palms
Ides of March my second favourite

[bitter mason]

This is where they need to change up suspect ai, because right now ROE might aswell be removed and make the game any other tactical shooter

[tiny mountain]

if you call them out and they hear it and don't surrender you can shoot them without penalty

So I'm not sure what's the problem

[frail pier]

I'm a simple man... if the gun gets raised after I yell or they shoot first I shoot last

[tiny mountain]

Sounds like you'd be a great person to do S ranks with.
Just grab a beanbag, aim at center mass and after a succesful hit, push them
they will surrender immediately once you're close

[bitter mason]

thats where grenades come into play, but atleast when playing single player you cant rely on grenades enough
bots either throw them terribly because the room is just too big, or it gets blocked by a prop or just simply doesnt register

[frail pier]

Direct impacting with flash launcher on a suspects face goes hard ngl

Simply running at them with it seems pretty efficient. Especially if bunched up

[tiny mountain]

So what's the issue with ROE then?

[frail pier]

Your swat sounds like they suck at throwing nades

[bitter mason]

inb4 some nerd says its realistic becasue they're army vets

[frail pier]

Sir I'm a digital army veteran and this is very realistic

I've served many tours in cod

[bitter mason]

everyone knows US army genetically modify their soldiers to not feel pain in the RON lore
didnt you read the sticky notes on that one level?

honestly, when in doubt use a taser

and even then it feels really janky due to the crappy animations

[frail pier]

Suspects on Ides of March hide under beds? Tf?

[tiny mountain]

In your particular scenario, immediately after he gets out of bed, flash him. As flash is right on him it will work immediately

[bitter mason]

yeah lol I've only had a suspect on Meth actually hide in or under something in the vanilla game and not that often

[tiny mountain]

Am surprised as well, never seen that
must be rare

Then again I had a case where Vamos hid under POOL TABLE in Valley of Dolls

Searched for him good 20 minutes

[frail pier]

I don't think that's a thing on Ides of March. In the long ass period of time I've played especially that level many times I've never seen that on brisa

That's normal on valley

[bitter mason]

suspect ai has a telegraphing issue I think. Its good design imo to be able to somewhat predict what they will do through subtle animations and voice lines
having suspects yell in absoulte fear "STOP DONT SHOOT" while unloading on you is just a bit jank feeling

[tiny mountain]

Wait did he had a gun after getting up?

[frail pier]

Too telegraphed. That's why I'm excited for the new animations

[bitter mason]

yeah rn they are either too predictable or just too chaotic

you can always tell when they're gonna pull a gun when surrendering and when they hesitate you know they're just gonna try and shoot you afterwards.
They need to be more varied but still allow you to somewhat anticipate their actions without it being too obvious

[frail pier]

What kind of mask?

Brisa only has L3

Not any higher

[bitter mason]

reminder there is only one suspect in the game that is immune to cs gas

[frail pier]

Which bed did he crawl from under?

Was it near one of the rifle OBJs or nah?

[tiny mountain]

in that case you're fine shooting him after first yell of compliance
You'd not have lost any points

wha

Just keep runnin non-lethal then

[bitter mason]

as far as I can tell
you only get the penalty if you shoot them before yelling for compliance if they arent actively attacking you, if they're hesitating or if they have surrendered, and even then theres a slight room for error when they are surrendering, I cant count how many times i've blown a dudes head off the frame he drops his gun

[tiny mountain]

It's like you're inventing your own problems 😄

[frail pier]

Someone's gotta do it

[bitter mason]

I understand that the game needs to blur the line more between lethal and less lethal runs, cause it does feel like you have to run less lethal just to get the majority of suspects alive on many levels.

[tiny mountain]

flashbangs and stingers are a thing
I have no problem running with my full squad all going lethal and still taking suspects alive (e.g. 3 suspects on brisa cove)

We use as many flashbangs and stingers as we can to get them alive.

[bitter mason]

if you are going for an S rank tho, using less lethals is really the best option

[bitter mason]

I play singleplayer, and grenades do the job but only when they work. Its probably fine coop because you have the freedom of other players, but when commanding a squad of ai its not that relyable to bang everything

[frail pier]

If everyone gave up easily without fight then game would be boring

[bitter mason]

im not saying they should

[tiny mountain]

true, multiplayer is easier

[tiny mountain]

with singleplayer gas works best
cause AI waits till gas sets up

[bitter mason]

singleplayer could do with a "request [item]" command like SEF
Because your best way of using grenades is using them yourself, but with how limited item slots are you will run out quick

[bitter mason]

yep definitely

theres also the problem the maps seem to be designed for multiplayer first singleplayer last
which I think makes for a worse experience. Great for multiplayer but very janky to command breaches in open spaces with no doors

[tiny mountain]

what do you mean? You can ask them for throwables at specific location already

[bitter mason]

they dont work very well

[tiny mountain]

gas works though

[bitter mason]

gas is fine

but if you want to use anything else

no point bascially restricting what you can use in singleplayer

[tiny mountain]

true dat
But even with all those things that don't work, you can still achieve S ranks on every map on singleplayer if you have enough:

• knowledge how to use your teammates well
• wedges
• aim
• tactics

[forest lichen]

m320 flash point blank

[bitter mason]

of course not saying its impossible

[deep rain]

Using the mods, there are more enemies, more lethality etc. and the commander mode stress system doesn't seem to be balanced for that, so my roster is immediatelly stressed out. Is there any way to change that?

[tiny mountain]

Yes, No Crack for AI + No Stress for SWAT mods
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3169
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3278

[deep rain]

Thanks

[tiny mountain]

👍

[potent stratus]

I'm playing with amount of suspects closer to vanilla. If you want your team to gain less stress, make sure not to fail main objectives and try to arrest as many suspects as possible instead of killing them

I always carry a taser even if going lethal

Mostly for HVT's like Gerard Scott or Quadamah

Well, tbh, I'd rather fill Quadamah's ass with buckshot but TOC won't like that

[deep rain]

It was more a question realated to cranking up enemies and lethality via mods

I already s-ranked the game 🙂 even with the 1.0 terminator AI version 😛

[noble pasture]

folded a suspect with 1 .357 round

is he alive?

didnt aim near the head

didnt pool any blood under him

[frail pier]

Alive or Not

[stable kernel]

No blood pool underneath means faking or incap

Pretty sure 357 will only one tap unarmored suspects so probably faking

[noble pasture]

Also got "unauthorized use of force -0"

So authorized or not?

[deep rain]

It's unauthorized, but you claimed qualified immunity and the judge was on your side 😄 😄 😄

[noble pasture]

Funny is that suspect got set up by his own buddy

[lean valve]

how hard is the hermit..? i have unlocked all achievements except the world and the hermit

[noble pasture]

I saw a guy taking his sweet ass time to surrender, had gun in hand. I started taking fire from another guy, capped first guy in the gut, he raised his gun and swat AI shotgunned him

He got set up by his buddy

Spooked the cops so he would get shot

[jolly verge]

Pretty easy, you can just hold your team at spawn and solo every map on your own + op traits

[noble pasture]

@jolly verge did this get me a -0 on unauthorized scale? And why

The suspect intended to fake surrender at how long he took to drop his gun, which he failed to do as he raised it back at us to shoot

[jolly verge]

Not sure why, did you shoot him or your team? Probably because swat hit him

[noble pasture]

I shot him first because I got spooked by second suspect shooting from somewhere else

Then swat shot him because he went hostile

But did yell first

[lean valve]

what does the lock symbol mean on officer traits?

[jolly verge]

that it's not unlocked

[lean valve]

i get that much, but why? and how do i unlock it

[jolly verge]

by playing missions

[lean valve]

thank you for this information

[jolly verge]

5 missions need to be completed to unlock 4 traits in your current roster

[lean valve]

can swat ai use tasers or pepper spray?

[tacit gull]

Yes, but there's literally no point

It takes a ridiculous amount of time to order them to pull it out

[lean valve]

fair enough

[tacit gull]

And they dont do it on their own

[tacit gull]

Using the taser yourself is great, telling the ai to use it is way too slow

[lean valve]

in twisted nerve, does your squad ai need nvgs or flashlights?

[noble pasture]

Neither

[lean valve]

thank you

[noble pasture]

They can rawdog any mission no mater the visibility levels

[lean valve]

hell yeah

[noble pasture]

Its recommended you give them the balistic mask

[lean valve]

does the flash protector goggles do anything then?

so if i was my squad ai, i would just need to live and shoot? thats all i do?

[noble pasture]

Also make sure no swat AI dies or quits for The Hermit

[lean valve]

they can quit??

[noble pasture]

If too stressed yes

[jolly verge]

Immune to flash effect, but still affect by speed debuff, does nothing for swat ai

[lean valve]

oh then im chilling, i give my homies their deserved love

[lean valve]

understood

[noble pasture]

Whats a safe way to clear blind spots?

[jolly verge]

flash/stinger/gas if you know that someone there

[noble pasture]

Well what if they are quiet as a church mouse?

[lean valve]

i usually mirror

you can also manually pie it if youre playing true solo

[deep rain]

Depends on the situation. In solo, you can say blue->move to and red-move to or stack with a queue, and then execute while you move with them looking at the blind spot

For example, if you enter brisa from the fire exit, you can slowly creep in, queue a move order to the right so the right door is covered and execute it while you turn around and look down the floor

[frail pier]

Why tf mfers talking about pie

Cake is way better

[deep rain]

the cake is a lie, and cookies are blocked automatically

[lean valve]

also why are the subtitles so weird?

[gilded oar]

update when?

[frail pier]

Whenever UE6.9 comes out

[gilded oar]

well guess my PC will die when I open the game with UE6.9

[deep rain]

Sometimes my AI mates full auto, sometimes they only do single shots very slowly.... what determines that?

[frail pier]

Just buy a 5090?

[jolly verge]

Distance to suspect

[gilded oar]

Well no money yet

[frail pier]

Take a loan out, sell blood, donate other bodily fluid

[gilded oar]

oh wait I can buy it then, if they annouc it UE6

"announce"

[frail pier]

Epic said that engine is gonna turn things upside down

[gilded oar]

oh

[frail pier]

6.9 gonna be a game changer

[gilded oar]

I just want some new content :/

[frail pier]

We just had DLC in july

Next one apparently before the end of year best case scenario

[gilded oar]

yeah well it just gaved us like what

3 new guns

[frail pier]

3 maps? For 10 buckaroos

[gilded oar]

3 new maps and some cosmetics.

[frail pier]

Oh fuck forgot Void was a triple A studio

Idk what they're cooking

[gilded oar]

hmmm

makes sense

guess I am stuipid :/

[frail pier]

No

[gilded oar]

Yes

[frail pier]

Ok 👍

[gilded oar]

[wary summit]

Guys do I have a massive skill issue, or AI is so broken that they can wallbang through glass and I can't?

[jolly verge]

what glass?

[lean valve]

are you using a non lethal or less lethal

[wary summit]

like windows

or walls made from glass

[wary summit]

lethal

[lean valve]

is it through blinds?

[wary summit]

no, I can see suspects

[lean valve]

damn

its a game issue probably

[jolly verge]

What map exactly?

[wary summit]

Clemente hotel

Sins of the father

or neon tomb and I'm talking about unbreakable windows

because yk suspects can wallbang you through walls so through glass aswell but I can't tho

[jolly verge]

all glass that i seen on those maps are breakable, can you point exact locations?

[wary summit]

I can't remember exact one tho I have to play few missions to find out give me a sec

[jolly verge]

there some on stairs and at spawn on night club, but you can pen it even with 9mm JHP

[bitter mason]

I swear there are issues people have had of suspect being able to pen things players cant

[tacit gull]

I think suspect bullets still work differently to ours, but i swear that was either fixed or mitigated

1.0 had suspects able to shoot through most walls you couldn't

[wary summit]

what version it is now btw

[wary summit]

pluh im js curious i wanna know 😭

I have 76 hours I ain't any specialist or smth

[bitter mason]

idk what the version is
but we've had 3 patches since 1.0 I believe

wait

im dumb
3 patches since home invasion

but I dont think they're calling it 1.1 or anything

[tacit gull]

I thought 1.1 was supposed to be separate from home invasion but i guess not 💀

[bitter mason]

idk

I think 1.1 is the upcoming update?

I swear I saw someone say 1.1 isnt here yet

the roadmap is very vague

and also we should have dlc 2 by now according to it lol

[tacit gull]

I thought the next update is gonna be the other dlc??

like not only is that roadmap barely anything they still didn't follow it in the slightest

[bitter mason]

honestly no clue haha

[tacit gull]

Imma be honest i dont think VOID has hit a deadline ever since like the january update?

[bitter mason]

I hear talks of DLC2

One thing void definitely isnt is punctual lol

unless its a 1.0 release then they're too early

[tacit gull]

You can say that again, the only thing that actually released on time back then was the trailer 💀

It was a banger ass trailer too

[amber dock]

January was the last time void ever used concrete deadlines and followed them. Yet they still can’t do simple things

[tacit gull]

Yeah, it's crazy, i think VOID are super cool but holy fuck guys

[amber dock]

Devs are cool, the upper management is not

[noble pasture]

Got A+ in Twisted Nerve. Needed it for officer morale

Tased a bunch of crack heads

Even flashed a civie because he was on his ass around a corner

[tacit gull]

the old trailers were definetly ready

i hope the person who put them together got a massive raise

[stone bay]

Hi do you need to take a drug test before playing this game

[tacit gull]

😈

[amber dock]

Yes and CIA,NSA and FBI will run background checks on you

They will dig so deep your Probiotics will get checked

[stone bay]

[forest lichen]

how to never miss deadlines
step 1
don't make them in the first place

thanks for watching

[noble pasture]

I know a dev team (not void) which is absolutely allergic to deadlines

[stone bay]

Give me a hint

[lean valve]

can you redo a mission in ironman mode?

not restart but redo

[noble pasture]

Every milsim channel made videos about the game 2 years ago. Thats exactly when the updates stopped being common and its top down

[jolly verge]

yeap

[stone bay]

Foxhole

[noble pasture]

Nope, another hint, it takes place in a made up middle eastern country

[stone bay]

It’s too down?

Top*

[noble pasture]

Top down yes

[noble pasture]

Yes, but 3d

[stone bay]

Only multiplayer?

Or a singleplayer game

Door kickers 2v

[tacit gull]

Generating simplistic 2D maps isn't really the same thing as high fidelity 3D maps that also need to be walked by AI that's way more complex

[icy wraith]

yes, especially when lighting, shadows, etc need mostly to be all pre-cooked into the shaders for performance

[frail pier]

They either take it out the oven too soon or forget key ingredients and burn it to a crisp.

There is no in-between

[frail pier]

SDIF limited procedurally generated maps

[umbral oar]

Void overcooked 🔥

[tacit gull]

Are those any good?

[amber dock]

no it adds nothing to the game

There's a reason SDIF has so little player count

[tacit gull]

[frail pier]

It's procedural until it's not. You can roll for the same layout lol.

[tacit gull]

Ah, so it's like DRG but without any of the uniqueness of each room lmao

[frail pier]

It got old quick. Granted I played when there was only 4 missions. But the AI were abysmal. But I guess also fits the narrative of cracked out insurgents

Oh hell nah

[amber dock]

Based on what they've showed, it looks ass

[tacit gull]

It really doesn't sound like it

[frail pier]

Gameplay just sucked. I regret buying it honestly.

[tacit gull]

Why is there no competition man

[amber dock]

Ground branch

[frail pier]

For a fallujah sim?

Yeah GB is pretty fun

[tacit gull]

ground branch really competing with that sub 1000 playerbasw

[frail pier]

I've been trying to pull a sub 1 min on compound with 30 resistance

So hard

[tacit gull]

GB is ridiculously bland in my eyes, i regret ever buying it

It's also never going to be finished, they'll push a shitty "1.0" update and be done with it

[frail pier]

It's meh but honestly has a lot of features RoN needs

Lone wolf is fun wdym

[tacit gull]

It's just tapping oblivious ai in the head from range

I wouldn't say it's engaging in any way

Zero Hour is just 💀

[frail pier]

Nah in actuality Zero Hour is a few good ass updates of surpassing RoN

Void better not fuck around

[tacit gull]

Incredibly janky, incredibly cheaply made, super uncanny

it's like trying to wear the skin of a higher budget game

[frail pier]

They have sprinting instead of brisk walking

[tacit gull]

They chase trends and dont actually make stuff of their own volition

[frail pier]

Void when it looks in the mirror

[tacit gull]

The newest map is basically the devs saw port on ron and went "lets do that lmao"

[frail pier]

They got dogs

And rappelling

[tacit gull]

It really does, a game with no vision will never be good

[frail pier]

That's a reach bro

[tacit gull]

Not both at the same time

[frail pier]

Actually yes

Yes

It's like putting another layer of makeup on your girlfriend. Might look different but feels the same :/

[tacit gull]

I also think the dogs are HILARIOUSLY gimmicky

[frail pier]

Neither do I

I clearly stated ZH is a couple updates from surpassing RoN

Nah I fuck with the doggo side kick

[tacit gull]

If you're being serious, i dont see it

[frail pier]

They bite through walls and props

What in the word vomit did I just read

I almost had to hire a cryptologist to figure that out

I read that like 8 times

[tacit gull]

what is happening

[left rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-the-chip-chips-chip-eating-chip-man-eating-three-chips-gif-18885184

[frail pier]

Fock ur gif

[radiant zealot]

no embed?

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[radiant zealot]

unfair

[stable kernel]

Deal with it

[radiant zealot]

admins ban him

[stable kernel]

Are these admins in the room with us?

[radiant zealot]

maybe

[gentle stratus]

for The Hanged Man achievement does "bash" refer to battering ram?

[jolly verge]

Melee that on B key

[wheat fiber]

Bro why is there a butt ass naked crack addict on my screen rn

Please explain that to me

Why is there a naked guy with a ak in a meth lab

EXPLAIN THAT TO ME

WHAT IS THIS GAME

[stone stump]

gotta learn from the best ig

[lone cloud]

i think more than a couple but they kind of seem to just be mimicking whatever ron does a lot of the time

[frail pier]

Not gonna argue that

But will RoN be copying ZH if they add PVP?

[stone bay]

What game was it

[stone bay]

I heard good things about ground branch

6 days in fajita looks fun but that’s just a coop shooter right

[amber dock]

Um sure

[stone bay]

Yeah I play escape from Tarkov sometimes idk if it’s like that game. I think RoN, EFT and Squad are the best hardcore shooters atm. Tarkov community is the worst thing to ever exist on planet earth though, I will say.

But I’m new to the realistic shooter genre that’s just been my experience

[frail pier]

GB is something I play when I get tired of TOC screaming at me. Just a fun lil plink game. Haven't even done multiplayer in it yet.

[stone bay]

Toc?

[frail pier]

The man talking in your ear is TOC

[icy wraith]

The RoN killer is fully modded Pre-Adam RoN 🙂

with a dozen custom maps 😉

ah, if some modders got togethet to polish "that" game...

why would Void simply throw away some of their best maps? it's absurd. Old port, farm, dealers, wenderly hills... unbelievable

[icy wraith]

disagree. I don't see GB ever leaving the EA state. It's already part of the devs' lives for what? 2 decades?

how can you simply let that go?

lol

[urban walrus]

Not the best for them

[icy wraith]

Probably the real reason is a ltl more complex than that

[stable kernel]

I doubt they are thrown away, more likely they will be reincorporated at some point.

Or parts at least

[icy wraith]

tbh i really don't wanna know

some of their mid-dev decisions were so painfully wrong. OFC i wouldn't know exactly why they were taken, but the results are there

[urban walrus]

Gruntr said that they would like to bring those back https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1e4w5rd/comment/ldk4zxp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3, the same with gamemodes https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1e4w5rd/comment/ldk5wej/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[shy tulip]

They said in advance even before the maps were taken out why, they're really old maps that they didn't think reflected the updated games vision/style. Such as map development around AI, etc

I think people forget how buggy the maps were too.

[icy wraith]

disagree too. they were perfectly playable. Sure, some 'scenarios' were / worked better than others, and some of the bugs were very easy to correct. They ditched perfectly fine situations for a more 'streamlined' experience. I mean, take the port scenario. The old one was complex. lots of rooms, lots of floors. You could be sniped, you had to deal with staircases. It was rich in terms of CQB.
What have we as a 'replacement'? a simple one-floor situation, good too, i won't dispute that, but way more linear. A tower that serves no purpose. A side headquarters that deviate from the objective. Only one way in. And its own ammount of bugs too

leave the 'campaign one' as is, but keep the old classic for a one-runner. makes no sense to do any different

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
👆 Compared to this kind of flow, the 'updated game's vision / style' is considerably inferior.

[final sapphire]

hey that fckin WatchmenYT guy is running 2 separate accounts holding lobbies hostage

has this been brought up with devs

or is it a tired topic

[stable kernel]

You should try using the search bar

[shy tulip]

Also reading news letters

[lone cloud]

theres a block feature coming next update. for now you can simply host your own lobby if you keep matching with him

[shrewd oriole]

Finally, they are adding slow drop animations that we've been asking for since before release

One can only hope this is the turning point of RoN AI

I have a dream that suspect AI will act like a human person!!

[worn adder]

what maps have traps on them

[prime wing]

Reading????

Thats a bit too much

[tepid wren]

do you still get the hermit achievement if an officer resigns?

[amber dock]

I think it voids it,

[tepid wren]

alr thank you

[umbral oar]

…void?

[silk junco]

interactive?!

[plain python]

Real

[amber dock]

Nuh uh

[jolly verge]

Yes

[tepid wren]

thanks

[stone bay]

Wait people prefer to play this game with friends?

For me that defeats the purpose

[modest bear]

did they remove officer selection from the game?

[forest lichen]

only available in multiplayer

[gentle stratus]

if you have friends that take tactics seriously, this genre is at its peak with them in my experience

i used to play rainbow six 1-3 solo thinking that was the shit, until i got a couple friends to join me on Raven Shield and i realized just how much better it is with people lol

[forest lichen]

it's a PvE Tactical Shooter

[modest bear]

that moment when you mag dump a suspect in the chest but they don't die

[forest lichen]

of course the hardest part is getting friends to play this game

[forest lichen]

what were you using

and did the suspect wear armor

[stone bay]

Ah ok. I just figured the immersion would break having to talk thru mics

[gentle stratus]

the $50 price tag since 1.0 doesnt help

[forest lichen]

GABEN

GIVE US ANOTHER SALE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[gentle stratus]

oh no way, you communicate with your ai teammates with button prompts, its more fun and immersive to tell your friends "ill prep a flashbang, you blow the door"

[forest lichen]

Have you watched OfficerInvictus's vids?

[gentle stratus]

and when the plan WORKS its just

[forest lichen]

You can tell them to hold specific angles that the bots can't do

And other stuff

[gentle stratus]

bots are pretty stupid too and i find that immersion breaking lol

[forest lichen]

Hell crouching

Bots can't even crouch

[acoustic ridge]

bots cant find a different path around you if you are holding an angle

[forest lichen]

also with friends

you actually get to be IN the stack

rather than becoming a glorified rear security

[modest bear]

Mk11 compact should have at least made them stop shooting

[acoustic ridge]

also friends can be immersion breakers if all they wanna do is goof around and not larp

[forest lichen]

9mm pistols are hit or shit

[gentle stratus]

i just finished doing S rank duo with a friend on all missions plus DLC, it was immersive as hell

[forest lichen]

LSPD's Finest

[gentle stratus]

at least if friends goof around it can be funny - when bots are stupid its frustrating

[forest lichen]

would you guys rather play with bots or randoms

[acoustic ridge]

whenever i play with bots i spend the whole time in command menu instead of shooting people

[forest lichen]

yeah it feels like a glorified RTS tbh

telling your squad to do this and that instead of being actually in the squad

[gentle stratus]

depends on what im doing - ill do bots if im home after work and just wanna run around arresting/shooting

randoms if im more serious

and there's the ironman achievements which require wrangling the bots around to not kill themselves

[icy wraith]

you should watch the video i posted earlier on #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

older build. playing effectively with the AI without using any menu

the menu browsing is horrible for what you have to do in the game. Plus, if you stay behind, it's like those kid's toys that play themselves while you watch lol. Not de wey

[forest lichen]

would be cool to switch out bots with yourself during stacks

[acoustic ridge]

what if i could control the bots remotely and possess them

[forest lichen]

dark magic

[gentle stratus]

one of the biggest features from rainbow six i wish made it to RoN

[urban walrus]

It is already in the game https://youtu.be/0nj6qWDNU0A?si=4xJf2Z-lSDTHBUEM&t=239

[forest lichen]

everytime i do this they always say

gonna try again tho

[urban walrus]

Then I guess it's not working as intended

[urban walrus]

Are you trying to switch out the bot in the middle (or the end) of the stack formation or you were doing the same exact thing as the one showcased in the video

[forest lichen]

front

ill try again tho

[pliant void]

I have no issues with the bots but I also have changed all my keybinds and default command options to better suit it.

All my stack options are my mouse side buttons and make it much more fluid and usually I make them execute on my move.

So I always instigate the breach and they back me up instead.

[forest lichen]

ok it works

[prime wing]

Havent played ron in a while but this is a command that I had a hard time finding

It is useful, not sure how many people actually use it or even know about it

[deep rain]

For some reason I no longer receive the score messages at lower end of the screen (suspect detained +15 etc)

Anyone got any idea why that might happen?

[tacit gull]

There's a bug that stops them from appearing, i have no idea what causes it

Unless you just turned off your messages

[jolly verge]

Press F3 few times

[tacit gull]

Is that why it happens?

[jolly verge]

No idea, but it's happen since 1.0 release for me too

[river tide]

you can

[lean valve]

redoing missions in commander, does that make your teams mission experience increase?

[jolly verge]

yes, you can do same map over and over again to unlock all traits

[lean valve]

thank you

[wet thunder]

valley of the dolls reminded me of the whole diddy situation... anyone else noticed this?

[hexed leaf]

Chris the Cop, quite aptly, calls that map "Epstein Island"

[radiant zealot]

I bet someone is going to make a diddy mod for valley of the dolls, 100%

[river tide]

diddy mansión

[radiant zealot]

5 nights at diddy’s

[candid ridge]

is that freez bug due to the UE5 transition still around?

[potent swift]

Hey, do i have to do the "Due Process" achievement in Singleplayer mode? Did it multiple times now

[amber dock]

I think it’s bugged out in MP

[potent swift]

ty

[green prawn]

Next map should be an armed animal rights domestic terrorist group freeing all of the animals from a pet store

[green prawn]

OST for that map goes hard tho

[lean valve]

to get the hermit, what counts as losing an officer?

[frail pier]

Dying/resignation

[lean valve]

understood

[jolly verge]

KIA only and incap/kia on last mission

[frail pier]

I thought resignation causes you to lose it?

[jolly verge]

only for dev watch

[frail pier]

Oh wait can't you get the achievement without the watch?

Oh yeah ight

[jolly verge]

yeap you can

[frail pier]

I mean if you're going for the achievement might as well go for the watch

[lean valve]

yes, true

[frail pier]

But you can also have officers resign right after port IIRC?

And it'll still count for both?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[frail pier]

Kill shit on one level, hit up gas station S Rank a couple times

EZ

[jolly verge]

Or just use 2 negotiators, so you dont need grind gas

[frail pier]

100% cheesed the living fuck out of it when I did it.

I'm sure ALT+F4 still works if your AI die

[lean valve]

yes ‼️

but be sure to do it in game and not in any menu

[acoustic folio]

Is there any way to play on the old maps before 1.0? Like old hotel and port? Possibly even seeing the old station as well?

[urban walrus]

No, you have to downgrade the game version

[acoustic folio]

I tried that but the only other version was supporter alpha. It was still 1.0 release, so current police station, maps, etc

Maybve some mods exist? I haven't checked yet

[urban walrus]

You can downgrade the game up to the first early access version with the base game alone, and even further back if you have the archived version

[urban walrus]

There is a recreation mod for the 2020 version of Hotel

[acoustic folio]

Looks like I have to use some 3rd party tools to do it? Not as simple as going into steam and picking a previous version

[urban walrus]

Yes

[acoustic folio]

is there? cool, could you possible link it to me?

Found it

Sick, now just gotta find old farm

[tacit gull]

You don't need to use third party tools but they streamline the process

Steam being chill like that 🤙 has its own tools to do it

[pliant void]

Content creator stuff now? Too late donuts.

[grave sigil]

I still have yet to boot up RoN again since I got to relapse on my Ironman run

[twin bluff]

Ktos z polski

[noble pasture]

How do people beat ironman cheeseless?

[acoustic ridge]

just beat it idk bro
shoot bad people dont shoot unarmed people

dont use smgs they arent very reliable compared to rifles

[noble pasture]

Is soloing maps more reliable?

[acoustic ridge]

for the watch yes, if u just want to complete it then use bots

[noble pasture]

So it's me, my rifle and 20 suspects, shoot if they look funny?

[acoustic ridge]

you could use the bots to carry extra util
could tell them to stack up on a door and c2 and clear with leader so you dont have to carry c2

unfortunately u cant tell bots to drop you ammo or grenades

[noble pasture]

Nah, I love to lockpick

[acoustic ridge]

honestly u could use bots to hold security

and you can be the one clearing rooms

[lean valve]

in elephant, how do i make the suspects, especially the last one, NOT kill the civilian under 3 minutes?

[acoustic ridge]

shoot them

be fast

[noble pasture]

Speed

[worldly prairie]

jsut rush, and hope that you find the suspects. ignore everything else, even securing weapons, just chase after the suspects fast

[lean valve]

i do that

the problem is how slow i move

and how fast the last suspect kills the civis

[icy wraith]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4047

[jade anchor]

why is mt team getting blown up when they breach a door

[lean valve]

do you have to be quiet in elephant for the civs to not be killed or something

[worldly prairie]

Hmmm, if you move slow, then try a lighter armour maybe, clear the building in sections bottom to top, i just run through the hallways and skip all individual rooms; that should be quick ( I use light armour)

[lean valve]

understood

[worldly prairie]

Probably because of a grenade tripwire on the other side of the door

[worldly prairie]

Good luck m8 🙂

[jade anchor]

there isnt

[coarse osprey]

that movie in #announcements reminds me midsommar

[frail pier]

Light armor isn't faster than heavy with the same plate coverage. Its only slower if you choose full on heavy but nothing really noticeable.

Light armor has no side protection lol.

[worldly prairie]

heavy armour makes you slower than with light armour even though you have the same plate coverage, but it gives you the most protection. try it out for yourself

[frail pier]

I have it doesn't lol

This has been known for awhile now

No armor is the same as running heavy armor with kevlar lol acceleration wise. We all have the same max movement speed regardless. Front only ceramic on both light and heavy have the same acceleration debuff and movement speed.

You can ask the dude who made the google doc of this game that datamined and tested all of this. It's just your acceleration that changes.

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[shy tulip]

Tis correct, everyone has the same max speed, but armor impacts how fast you hit that max speed

[frail pier]

WHY CANT WE BE FASTER WITHOUT ARMOR???

Why is it the same as kevlar lmaooo

[unborn kestrel]

Still no news about the freezes

Aw shucks

[shy tulip]

#1275941842378166333

[grand lichen]

is ron worth it rn beacuse ive heard some bad things and $50 is alot

[umbral oar]

Sale

[upbeat shore]

Whats the bad things you heard?

[grand lichen]

that its buggy and missing some features

that could be outdated though

[amber dock]

Kaminsky not being good

[grand lichen]

im just on the edge of buying it beacuse i love how it looks and seems to play

but $50 is also alot of money

[amber dock]

It is indeed lots of money

[grand lichen]

but is it worth it, like with mods is this a game that i will be able to play for a long time?

[stable kernel]

[plain osprey]

get the RDR1 PC port. drops in 17 days.

[upbeat shore]

Yikes no

[grand lichen]

thats the other thing is like i dont just wanna play it for like a month and then it gets dry and repetative

is it like that?

[plain osprey]

depends. it's like that for most people, especially if you play vanilla.

[upbeat shore]

Name me 5 games that arent like that

[grand lichen]

rdr2

[plain osprey]

hell yes

[grand lichen]

and atleast for me stormworks

lots of things to do

[upbeat shore]

wth is stormworks xD
Gotta look that up

[grand lichen]

but anyways i havent looked into mods

its like a vehicle design game

[upbeat shore]

Ah gotcha

[grand lichen]

not graphiacly the best but mechanics wise its really advanced id say

[upbeat shore]

Damn i just stumbled on a game like that the other day, a brand new one.
Gotta see if i can find that

[grand lichen]

anyway, do mods make the game more

i guess repeatable

[upbeat shore]

Sure, but its not like it will give you a "brand new experience" just because another AR has a shiny new scope or something ^^

[grand lichen]

beacuse i played ghost recon breakpoint a while back and even after fully modding it, it just felt dull

i just dont want ron to be like that

if that makes sense

[upbeat shore]

My honest opinion, i think you might want to skip then.

Theres a good amount of content, yes.
But its about replaying and finessing your runs and skills.

[grand lichen]

other thing is having other people

beacuse like ghost recon "has" it but its really dull

but ive heard that ron has good multiplayer

[upbeat shore]

Every game shines brighter with having people besides you, 100%
It can be serious tactical adventure or just dumdum fun session ^^

[upbeat shore]

Damnit, it was "Brick Rigs" from 2023.

[grand lichen]

go with stormworks if you want more in depth

brick rigs has nothing on storm works

[upbeat shore]

Eh its absolutely not my cup of tea ^^

[grand lichen]

alr

anyways thanks

i think ill prlly get it beacuse i have alot of money left over from my birthday

[upbeat shore]

I mean, make up your mind. You still got that 2 hour window in case of refund.

[grand lichen]

2 hours is never enough ngl

lol

[prime wing]

^

[prime wing]

For ron it is, you are introduced to must gameplay features from the getgo

[trim hazel]

from the depths betta!

[grand lichen]

my biggest worry is ron getting stale even with mods and freinds

[cloud comet]

gang i finally bought the game

[grand lichen]

is it worth it

[upbeat shore]

I mean, nobody can answer that FOR you really.
You might be bored after 1 week.. 4 weeks... half a year.

[grand lichen]

will i come back and enjoy it tho

especialy with mods

[dark tartan]

mods make the game so much better than it already is.

[lost inlet]

Mods carry the game on its back and shoulders

[dark tartan]

the vanilla game is still great, but the mods put it to another level.

the other day i was in here playing a zombies mod with some randoms and it was hilarious and awesome

just 100+ unarmored, knife-only suspects bum rushing you from every direction

[lone cloud]

i mean ive played about 250 hours just in vanilla mostly coop with friends whether or not youll get that much out of it idk depends what you like in a game. watch gameplay and some reviews and decide for yourself

[radiant zealot]

A game that never gets stale is impossible

every game will get stale at one point

[lone cloud]

ron is the kind of game thats fun to go back to after a while and run thru

[radiant zealot]

Yep, that's how I usually play games these days. It's the same thing for me for RS2.

#🔎looking-for-players

[proper mural]

thanks was looking for that channel but couldnt find it lol

[radiant zealot]

yeah ik how that feels lol

feel like a old man when there's too many channels

[proper mural]

wayyy too many

[fleet vigil]

Wassup

[vale mason]

Let us do night raids

[cloud comet]

ik this is a stupid question but how do i do multiplayer

[vale mason]

Load in

Invite your friend

[cloud comet]

ah its on main menu mb

[forest lichen]

how bad could playing with randoms be

[stable kernel]

[silk junco]

he does not know

[stable kernel]

RIP tactical gas mask

[unreal wraith]

I love the streamer mission

[hazy fog]

i have steamcloud enabled but all my game saves are gone

[stable kernel]

If the game overwrote the save files they are gone unfortunately

I wish it didn't happen, but it happens. For the future, you can make a manual backup of your saves at C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\ReadyOrNot\Saved\SaveGames

[stoic vortex]

does anyone know the model of the LSPD heavy armour?

[high trellis]

Any info on the bad guys on Sinous trail? Armored or nah? thanks in advance

[forest lichen]

Lightly armored, their helmets are cosmetics, they use SMG's and Rifles like the MPX, MP9, MK18, etc

[high trellis]

Any body armor i should be worried about?

[forest lichen]

Think they use Level 3 Armor

Recommended to use rifles

[high trellis]

Ah i see AP it is then

thank you

[jolly verge]

It's L3A, so you can use any rifle with JHP, but AP for 5.56

[forest lichen]

Could use MP7 and P90

Five Seven best armor

[forest lichen]

.300 BLK with JHP pairs really well

[jolly verge]

Yeah, 2 torso or limbs shot to incap

[forest lichen]

.300 BLK AP capabilities is stupid good that it can still penn armor with JHP

[high trellis]

oooh might try that

[forest lichen]

Which is the complete opposite irl

[high trellis]

what weapon uses the 300BLK?

[forest lichen]

But yeah, 300 BLK JHP if you want to be effective

[forest lichen]

LVAR, ARN-180, DM4PDW

Pick your poison, I personally use the LVAR

DDM4PDW kicks vertically a lot

[high trellis]

FDE kinda throws me off.. ill use ARN180

[jolly verge]

you can also use SLR47, same as .300

[forest lichen]

ARN-180 has muzzle brakes

[high trellis]

thanks for the suggestion didn't know any of that lol

[forest lichen]

There's a mod that makes the LVAR black

[high trellis]

and which mod is that?

[forest lichen]

Search up LVAR on Nexus and you should find it

[high trellis]

Any replacers that are compatible with Attachments expansion?

damn just realized theres a lil 300BLK on the mag thats so cool

[high trellis]

Nvidia Shadowplay is flickering on and off every second, making it impossible to record more than a snapshot. Only occurs on Ready or Not in DX12.

any fixes?

[jolly verge]

Nvidia app or old geforce one?

[high trellis]

huh

geforce experience is what i have

[jolly verge]

try new nvidia app or just reinstall geforce

[tidal isle]

W

[torpid stag]

I know this isn’t Ron but does anyone wanna see the image I took of the maccas bathroom after someone ate too much and vomited everywhere?

[lost inlet]

[radiant zealot]

please no

[torpid stag]

Like idk, I don’t wanna get banned for some shit like this tho

[radiant zealot]

if you send me a pic of vomit I hope you get banned

[torpid stag]

Okay tf

[noble pasture]

Brazil or Not

[noble pasture]

Use suppressors for cool factor?

[lost inlet]

pretty much that's why you use them in the first place in game

[rare scaffold]

So, how do I find the last civilian if Search and Secure isnt working

[true panther]

Suppressors also reduce how much stress your officers get from firing by a lot, helps if you're doing a full run and not practice/multiplayer.

[rare scaffold]

Never mind, couldn't find last objective

What causes stress angway?

[noble pasture]

I thought it was less suspect stress

[rare scaffold]

I finally completed Greased Palms!

[true panther]

its both but IMO suspect stress really don't matter much unless you're specifically trying to go nonlethal

[radiant zealot]

Isn’t the biggest pro to suppressors is that it comes with added stats to your weapon? Like lower recoil and such.

[rare scaffold]

Surpressed sounds cool

[true panther]

if its a rifle you're better off using the muzzle breaks, for SMGs yeah it's a small stat bonus but IIRC also some downsides like slower ADS and of course the gun becomes much longer

[radiant zealot]

Ofc, but sometimes I want to run unsuppressed and go loud lol

[radiant zealot]

Ah I see

Yeah I didn’t know that

[grand lichen]

im abt to buy but should i know anything before i do

[tiny mountain]

whatchu buyin

[grand lichen]

RON

I should have specified mb

[grand lichen]

?

[lost inlet]

is it on sale now?

[grand lichen]

no

but ive played the crap out off all my games

and ive wanted it for a while

[true panther]

Can you get the Beat Cop achievement using a shield?

[wary summit]

Does anyone knows the name of voice file that's responsible for "Turn around" line? Cuz I'm tryna make a voice replacament but idk what's the name of file responsible of voice while ordering to turn around

[jolly verge]

yeap

[noble pasture]

Really?

[jolly verge]

yes

[stone bay]

@glad thistle my bad misclicked but hope u have a good game

[unreal wraith]

What’s the best traits for officers on commander mode

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators 1 armorer, 1 pacifier if you doing S

or nutritionist instead of pacifier if you just run and gun

[modest bear]

Does time factor into the rank you get on a mission?

[native rune]

[CALL]OrderTurnAround and
[CALL]OrderTurnAroundS

Make sure to put an underscore ‘_’ in and then a number as well like how the other ones are structured, and the stealth ‘S’ variant too otherwise there won’t be a turn around line for when things aren’t kicking off

[hexed escarp]

i wish there was a black version of the wrist planner so bad

forest camo does not go very well combined with a white & black outfit...

[robust shadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/s/xS2tE81hMS

[mighty kite]

yes

[fair dust]

I have a general question. Why did the older maps off ore versions and their adaptation get scratched ? At the last times I am starting to missing them and I am just curios why they not simply leaf the maps for playing and have so more content out. Is there a specific reason why the old maps got taken out ?

[upbeat shore]

Just a creative decision by the devs is all.

[fair dust]

😦 sad it is like it is

[prime wing]

They werent final or they decided to scrap projects that were going nowhere.

As for the modes, they werent really that different from one another and having to maintain 2-4 map variants for each map was just not sustainable

Gamemodes weren’t really unique maps, they were just an illusion of choice for modes.

[shy tulip]

As Blackbird said, Void said pretty early on that they intended to rework those maps completely because they were really old and didn't match what they wanted for the game. They said modes were really intensive to maintain leading up to 1.0, but they may return.

In either case I don't see every map having every mode. The meth heads aren't gonna bomb themselves, gerard isn't gonna have like 10 people in his home playing active shooter

[frail pier]

Is L4 on dorms RNG?? Just had a run with JHP SA58 and everyone got dropped in 1 shot.

Which JHP shouldnt pen that

Also the 509 makes animation cancelling the SA58 noticeably slower lol...

[feral mango]

I want this game looks so good

Trying to decide between this or bodycam

[frail pier]

Compared between the 2 I'd buy this lol.....

[forest lichen]

my first ready or not lobby was a chinese lobby with the zombies mod

there were 130 zombies and i only brought 5 mags

[upbeat shore]

Bodycam is already dead. Its a gimmick cashgrab shooter and its literally just "deathmatch" against other people.
Its fun for an hour and then you are done with it.

[forest lichen]

what happened to the detective campaign type shit they teased

and only having pvp in their release

[upbeat shore]

Thats the problem 99% of people have... ITS ANOTHER GAME.

That would be Unrecord.

[forest lichen]

oh

unrecord hasn't been released yet?

[upbeat shore]

Dead silent since the very first trailer April 2023.

[forest lichen]

damn

[amber dock]

Just like every tac shooter out there that is labeled as 'BEST TAC SHOOTER'

[spice trail]

i feel like a level in a casino would be nice

[amber dock]

Everyone would be too distracted playing slot machines

[spice trail]

well i want it to be based off hard rock casino shooting

but not directly

but yea it'd be very vibrant and bascially just blind you

[forest lichen]

TOC to Entry Team, STOP GAMBLING

[amber dock]

Judge needs to satisfy his gambler brain

[forest lichen]

Entry Team to TOC, can I borrow a 100? I'll promise I'll pay you back

[frail pier]

On dorms why isn't it called west/east entrance?

Because its not at all north or south lol

According to ingame compass

[amber dock]

You really expect VOID to look that far?

[amber dock]

I still remember Kam telling us that DLC events take place 5 YEARS after Port lol

hahahhahaha

[frail pier]

In that time frame we have forgotten about the usage of compasses

[amber dock]

Hurricane must be strong as hell to hold for 5 years

[slender tiger]

Are ready or not servers down

[shy tulip]

RoN doesn't have servers, it is peer 2 peer.

[forest lichen]

would be nice to have some kind of lobby browser like in Payday 2

[tiny egret]

Best path to S rank dolls?

[frail pier]

Bring non lethal.......

Thats the start of that path

[jolly verge]

509 has problem with holster animation, there some delay when you swapping to another gun/tool

[frail pier]

That checks out. I noticed it right off the grip lol

[frail pier]

What about the issue with dorms being listed with L4?

[jolly verge]

What with that?

[frail pier]

Its listed on MMMM's doc they have L4. I think its only L3 at most because they take one shot to center mass with 7.62x51 JHP

Idk if thats something you can verify but I've got a few clips where that doesnt track

[jolly verge]

i checked datatable and there only level 4 armor for 3 npc

and none for others

[frail pier]

They aren't spawning with it? Because its the 3 dudes in flannels with drum mags? JHP doesnt do that though...

[jolly verge]

No mods? I can look into that

[frail pier]

I went as far as to freeze NPCs and keep testing. Im on safe mode

[jolly verge]

i will check

[frail pier]

I can show you clips showcasing it.

word

[radiant zealot]

Entry Team to TOC, can I get a pay raise?

[jolly verge]

Wait, drum mags on dorms? They only on Narcos

[frail pier]

m4a1 you're right

But im for sure on dorms lmao. Idky I thought they had them here

Didnt pay attention enough to that

[jolly verge]

Yeah, they do spawn but without armor

not sure what cause this, but will check more after work

[frail pier]

Thats what I thought was going on. I didn't notice till I looked back at a clip of a faster run.

Then started testing and was like huh....

[grand lichen]

ALL OF MY GUYS ARE ANXIOS OR WORSE WHAT DO I DO

caps

[frail pier]

S gas station a couple times

[grand lichen]

ok

[frail pier]

Not even S just dont kill anything. F the guns

[grand lichen]

i just did the meth mission bro i hate it so much its so dark, i have no light and forgot nods

how do i save beacues last time i lost all my data

nvm

i had been put in practice moder after the toutorial

:(

[tiny egret]

Yes ik but like physical route

I just did it btw but yeah ik non lethal I’ve s ranked 80%

[frail pier]

Wedges, Don't push the stairwell near upper gym area, Don't play around with the windows. Levi will murder you majority of the time with that P90 if you just full swing him. Use tacs in tight areas downstairs.

[simple drum]

Got recorded a B on Ides of March even though I failed to arrest 3 suspects. I thought you had to get all the objectives to get a ranking. Did they change that?

[shy tulip]

If you beat it before in the past, that's probably why, I assume at least

[noble pasture]

game tricked me

tricked me into getting an unauthorized

was running streamer map for S rank

so we were raiding the HVT room. He got in a dead zone when we breached but SWAT team peppered him

he did the phone pull out animation, I bean bag him thinking its a gun

-50 for an otherwise good S rank

a suspect to do phone pull out animation in front of a swat team is straight up darwin award worthy

[noble pasture]

my game froze 3 times in a row

what the fuck is this optimisation?

[low root]

i think its a bug or somthin

im still experincing entering a room and the game just freezers

[high trellis]

300 BLK with OTM is crazy good holy i just solo'ed dolls and got S rank after struggling for 5 times

[low root]

not as much as before

[noble pasture]

Modder

[low root]

sins of the father is wayy harder

those mfs will always flank ur ass so u better have a 5 milisecond reaction time

[high trellis]

only reskins brother

[low root]

doesn't count ur still modding 🤦‍♂️

[high trellis]

What doesn't count?

[low root]

im joking

what reskins were u using tho

[high trellis]

only like 3 i think the black LVAR and cqb sr16 and novereske

[high trellis]

havent reached that part yet looking forward to it

from the name is it the cult one? ive heard someone talk about it

[low root]

well u better have a 5 milisecond reaction time

remember, suspects have beyond average reflex

idk if they hear u coming or they just simply have god tier reflex

would make sense if they hear you considering your carrying gear

[noble pasture]

OTM says otherwise

[high trellis]

which mod is that from?

[noble pasture]

That's a moded round

Gunfighter mod

[high trellis]

what is that

[low root]

also

quick question, i never played swat 4 but is it better than ron

[high trellis]

AI is better imo

[low root]

cuz i heard the suspects had a better "ai"

[high trellis]

that game holds a special place in my heart

[low root]

where they hide in corners when they run away from you

[noble pasture]

Suspects in Swat 4 had self preservation

[low root]

i just feel like modern game ai is just suicidal

they just rush at you without using real tactics

[high trellis]

i played that game to death on my grandmas shitty computer lol

[low root]

they never try and flush you out with grenades or some might

they never try and flank you

well ron ai does know how to flank imo

[low root]

ok idk if u heard about this game but if you spent time on the internet and steam you would of heard of a game called "half life"

that game is a classic man

[high trellis]

😂

[low root]

why is bro laughing at me 😭

[high trellis]

ive heard a game called CS 1.6 too sounds sick

[low root]

i heard about that but idk what it is

[jolly verge]

I found what cause it, will report and ask MMMM to note it in table

[noble pasture]

Bots dontt follow a certain order

[inner moth]

Will RoN ever make some more levels aside from dlc?

Like the ones that will actually continue the main storyline

[noble pasture]

Main storyline is kinda concluded

I am personally against the shadow government type shit

[inner moth]

Nah i refuse to agree. PLEASE tell me the main storyline isnt concluded T_T

[noble pasture]

You got 18 missions and 21 with dlc

[inner moth]

Well yes but smth HAS to come after port hokan right

[noble pasture]

A story better ends where it needs to than get dragged

cough Walking Dead cough

[inner moth]

Catch the guys who shut off their computers when the swat team enters the auction room

[noble pasture]

IP spoofers, masked faces

[inner moth]

Idk. Ig im just desperate lol

[noble pasture]

Could also be connected through dark web

[inner moth]

YES smth like that.

[noble pasture]

Meaning we can't trace it

[inner moth]

Well most users of darkweb arent that smart tho. Its not hard to catch

And if u catch one, u basically can catch all

[noble pasture]

Those guys had the money to buy slaves

[inner moth]

Yeah exactly. U take a slave captive. Interrogate them and u will probs get the guy eventually

[noble pasture]

We got the hostages before purchase

So they don't know who was about to buy them

Think of it another way, we shut down a million dollar smuggling port

Guns, drugs, people, all to be smuggled out of the country

[inner moth]

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[noble pasture]

Thats a win in any cop's career

[inner moth]

Ye but like they need to put some more stuff in the main lore

Its good as is but like there has to be some more no?

Or add some new features like actual trailers we can see and moving wounded officers to safety

[tacit gull]

That's already in the game

I wouldn't really call the main lore good, but it's technically being expanded with the DLCs

[inner moth]

Fr? I still havent seen any

[tacit gull]

That's because they only show up in one mode and they're broken so they might just not show up

They also only show up once a mission ended

[inner moth]

Ok ye so like i think void should at least fix that

[frail pier]

What was it?

[noble pasture]

Trailers show up if 2 things happen

[tacit gull]

1. you don't play commander

[noble pasture]

You take too long to find last soft objective or suspect/gun

[jolly verge]

Some typo in config https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1294905907833999400

[inner moth]

😂 that explains it

[frail pier]

Ahh I see!

[inner moth]

So theres nothing new thats being planned for this game?

[noble pasture]

[tacit gull]

They're working on some stuff, it's been taking a long while to implement though

[inner moth]

Ig i still havent been able to win on iron man mode

Maybe i should just keep on at it for now lol

[tacit gull]

I haven't even bothered

[inner moth]

😂

My reaction time is way too slow

[tacit gull]

just abuse alt-leaning

[inner moth]

Whats ur favrotie mod maps

[radiant zealot]

Your house.

[marble ridge]

yo guys! is the home invasion dlc actually worth it?

[hasty needle]

guys what secondary do i use when im using a rifle because they all seem useless because just use the rifle

[forest lichen]

anything really

it's only there as a backup when your rifle is dry

if you want the "meta", 5.7

[pine cape]

do any of you use sights i feel like theres no reason to use a sight over just tilting your weapon

[hasty needle]

i always just tilt my gun tbh

[hasty needle]

is the 509 pistol good too? ive been using both the fiveseven and 509 but cant decide which is better

[forest lichen]

509 has weird recoil, kicks down instead of up

17 rounds of 9mm which is good

but 5.7 has 20 rounds 5.7x28mm

and 5.7x28mm pierces Level 3A armor

5.7x28mm AP that is

9mm AP only penetrates Level 2

[hasty needle]

so the fiveseven has better recoil and stronger bullets, and bigger mag

how about the MCX rifle, is it good?

[forest lichen]

every 5.56 rifle performs the same

just pick one you like the most

looks the coolest

fancies you the most

[hasty needle]

okayy thank you

[forest lichen]

yes

well idk bout the recoil

[noble pasture]

But expensive ammo

[forest lichen]

don't worry, the tax payers dollars will suffice

the best thing of 5.7 is not having to pay for it

oh and 4.6

[noble pasture]

The one thing I am guilty off is copious ammounts of Bangs used

[forest lichen]

realism

[granite holly]

ok how do i switch qualifications of my team

[jolly verge]

what you mean?

like officer's trait?

[granite holly]

yeah

[novel pebble]

Hello

I'm trying to get The Hanged man achievement but despite all my attempts, I can't get it...
What am I doing wrong? I've only got the taser in my hand for the whole game.

Equipment :

• Pump-action shotgun without accessories
• 357 without accessories
• Lightweight ceramic barrel (front / rear)
• 9 flashbang
• 4 taser
• Mirror gun (I don't use it)
• Helmet only

[granite holly]

@jolly verge you there?

[amber dock]

You have use the 3 equipment mentioned in the achievement

[novel pebble]

Yes I did

[amber dock]

And only kick doors

[novel pebble]

I did too

[amber dock]

Well you clearly did something wrong since it didn’t pop

[lusty willow]

Anyone know why when i enter the building in the home invasion dlc it always crashes the game?

[amber dock]

Any mods of any kind?

[lusty willow]

i tried to install some but i have none currently

[amber dock]

Does it give any error message?

[lusty willow]

nope

when i walk into the main hall in the dorms mission

it just makes the game stop

[amber dock]

Hmmmm

[lusty willow]

im trying to install the game from the start maybe it'll help

or run in safe mode

[amber dock]

If you find nothing that solves it, open a room in #1265712033295372473 and list specs and everything you’ve tried

[lusty willow]

ok thanks

[heady spade]

shat

what gun / bullet penetrates the most material. meaning doors and shit?

[amber dock]

Fake gratr spotted, @tacit gull

Only one real Gratr in here

[amber dock]

There’s the real one