👮ron-discussion

[amber dock]

you have to replace them then

[ornate monolith]

how

[amber dock]

On your tablet

[ornate monolith]

where can i find that at

[amber dock]

press tab then hold and click roster

[full shore]

I don't think it is ever advantageous for LE to cut off power. Generally they'd want to make it as bright as possible. Darkness will only give the occupier of a room a bigger advantage

[forest lichen]

But night vision

[full shore]

Who needs night vision when you can turn on the lights

[wooden prawn]

I really wish there were more maps

[obtuse whale]

Hey buddy, whats up? Can u DM me?

[silk junco]

spicious

[lone cloud]

mongus

[modest bear]

How do you keep all civvies alive in Elephant? I try to be as careful as possible but after I shoot the second-to-last gunman the last one always randomly kills a civilian

It's got nothing to do with my gear, since I'm pretty good with the beanbag shotgun

they kill a civ before I'm even two rooms away from them

How do I stop them from doing this? Shoot through 3 solid walls?

[shy tulip]

They are on a timer, you do not have time to be slow or go as methodical as other maps

[modest bear]

so what do I do? I've gone fast, I've gone slow, and every time the very last shooter kills a civilian

how much time do I have before the bombs go off? I've never had one blow on me yet

is it the same as early access (3 minutes)?

[tacit gull]

It's down to luck really, the only strat is to go in holding w hoping you run into the shooters

[forest lichen]

my first attempt was stupid lucky

all the suspects rushed me and my team at the front

bring order to chaos done in the first few minutes

rest of the mission was finding civs and defusing bombs

[tacit gull]

is good level yes?

[forest lichen]

haven't played a lot of it

but everytime i visit a university, i always think of elephant

[modest bear]

I'm fine with active shooters and hostage situations, but putting them on a timer is annoying

I'd rather it just be "If you try to break into the room they're in they start shooting", which would force you to either be lightning fast or to make use of grenades

this just forces you to speedrun the level

[lone cloud]

i mean given its active shooters they would be actively shooting no? yeah in a hostage situation that would make sense but this isnt a hostage situation

[modest bear]

they would... which makes me wonder why they aren't actively shooting when you arrive

maybe having a shootout with the security detail or something?

[lone cloud]

well thats probably to balance it because it is a game after all (otherwise youd be losing from the start (you are losing from the start anyway but you get what i mean))

to give you a chance to act, same reason they nerfed the shit out of the enemy ai lol

[modest bear]

fair enough

but I'm still annoyed at how RNG dependent it is

also, can the bombs spawn outside or something?

or just inside?

[harsh vigil]

@steady linden did you add a “cheeki-breeki” to the radio change in Hide and Seek lol?

[modest bear]

is there a way to have your ai officers defuse or do you always have to do it?

[forest lichen]

inside

[steady linden]

I think so

[stone bay]

how do i aqquire a nine bang

[forest lichen]

mod

gunfighter device

[stone bay]

i was in a public lobby and some motherfucker dropped a nine bang

[modest bear]

I love it when the red dot sight lies about you hitting your opponent

is it possible to fail a mission and leave officer morale unchanged?

[shy tulip]

theoretically if you arrested a few suspects prior to failing, maybe

[forest lichen]

have you ever heard of the term called height over bore

[modest bear]

I suppose I should look up the term "height next to bore" as well

red dot on center mass, I miss

[forest lichen]

how

[modest bear]

that's what I'm saying!

[forest lichen]

fuck it failure drill

[modest bear]

Finally arrested all the suspects and defused bombs, what movie should I put on while I look for all the civvies and evidence?

maybe LOTR Extended Edition Trilogy

then again, idk if that'll cover the whole rest of the mission

Yay, S rank

[forest lichen]

how long did it take you

[modest bear]

25 minutes bc I forgot to look in the kitchen

[wraith glade]

Anyone else having a problem of guns just falling through the floor, ruining your S rank run?

[urban walrus]

You can order your SWAT AI to pick that up. However, if that happens when you are playing coop then there is nothing that you can do

[wraith glade]

Yea, thankfully it auto bagged itself at least I think that's what happened? I was doing a co-op run on relapse with my girlfriend and I had arrested someone, when I turned to grab their gun, I watched it clip and fall through the world below me via weapon highlights. I thought it was over so I just sat there for a bit and then it said (gun name) secured even though I wasn't the one that did it and my girlfriend had died a bit before it happened.

[scenic crescent]

I wish i could get the M14 rifle, It would look good whit the 99' swat

[river tide]

cool

[forest lichen]

Sniper or Not Mod

[runic oak]

Is the shotgun or the pepper ball better for non lethal runs? Non lethal runs work better for me for some reason

[agile ermine]

Skill issue

Or is it? Idk tbh

[forest lichen]

Pick which one you prefer

Shotgun for precise and unforgiving shots

Usually they'll surrender in one or two shots but remember it's a pump

[runic oak]

pepper for me only seems to work on headshots

[forest lichen]

But they do kill if you shoot them in the head so be careful

[forest lichen]

It can work anywhere, it's basically AoE damage

Tho you may need to spam a bit to actually get it to work

[runic oak]

for groups of enemies in a closed space i usually do like the gas thrower, 2 gas grenades and 1 stinger but mostly just 1 gas grenade is more than enough

[forest lichen]

M320 Gas, 2 Gas Canisters, and 1 Stinger?

[runic oak]

yep

[forest lichen]

You just put overkill into a new meaning

[runic oak]

how so

[proper echo]

can i unlock maps when i beat the previous map in qick play

[ornate monolith]

is there any way to restart the main mode

[amber dock]

What is the main mode according to you?

[ornate monolith]

the one which says continue on the main menu

[amber dock]

Make a new save file that’s it

[ornate monolith]

is that in the commander thing

[amber dock]

Yes

[ornate monolith]

ok thanks

[river tide]

is there not a way to just delete the save because i thought there was

[ornate monolith]

there is

im just stupid

[unborn kestrel]

dawggggg when is there going to be a patch

[bitter mason]

next DLC

[runic oak]

what is next dlc

[tacit gull]

DLC 2

[umbral oar]

its gonna be like cod where you go underwater and shi

[runic oak]

new atlantis swat map?

[umbral oar]

yeah and we’re getting harpoon guns

[runic oak]

bro can i fish the suspects with money on a hook?

[umbral oar]

meth bait is gonna go crazy

[elder void]

Why is there no bi weekly briefing today?

[tacit gull]

The new mocap looks great, problem is the old mocap still isn't really implemented, when is this stuff coming?

[frail pier]

The hesitationssssss finally

I've been wanting shit like that for so long

[tacit gull]

The item boxes look sick too, would be cool if the armor system properly works and suspects can dynamically obtain armor

I also wonder if they'll put weapon slings in, since there's animations for a suspect taking them off

[muted star]

I doubt that, still cool animations tho

[frail pier]

The fall of watchman now lmao

[tacit gull]

Hope he comes pre-banned lmao

I think that's a good way to do it tbh, people can just never end up with him and the devs dont ban people entirely from playing the game they bought

[lone cloud]

yes

[frail pier]

Can you family share RoN?

[lone cloud]

no

[frail pier]

I still wanna fuck with the guy hahaha
Damn

[lone cloud]

you can edit the ban list if you want to do that (unless he bans you at least)

[frail pier]

I'm sure he will at some point

[polar sorrel]

When RON can add the tactical ladder??

[umbral oar]

serotonin fills my body when i see animation related stuff in the newsletter

[astral warren]

I wonder when someone from VOID will acknowledge the damage cap is broken, if ever, or if we'll just have ceramic/free lean abuse meta forever.

[tacit gull]

I dont think fixing the damage cap will undo the free lean cheese

[astral warren]

If I don't die in 4 shots when I'm wearing steel I won't be compelled to abuse free lean as frequently.

🤷

Abusing free lean became necessary as soon as steel became inferior to ceramic.

It's not fun to do, but it's how you have to play the game, so I just don't play the game right now because it feels like ass.

[shy tulip]

Only way to fix that is to continue to break the model in until it's accurate

[tacit gull]

Well it's pretty important, as right now you can just peek corner and arrest a suspect for free before he reacts

[astral warren]

controversial: just remove free lean

[runic oak]

wtf is free lean

[astral warren]

Hold ALT and use move keys to become a jelly man.

[runic oak]

what does that do

[tacit gull]

Free lean is like the one feature that sets RON apart from other tac shooters tbh

[astral warren]

It lets you lean incrementally, but it's easily exploited because the AI is... erm... simple.

[runic oak]

i just go in an hope

[tacit gull]

I'd say they should still try to make it work, just dont know how

If its really down to tediously making the model match then they should get to it, but there's probably more to it than that

[runic oak]

they should make the enemies just have an rpg and blow everything up

[astral warren]

You already die in 4 shots through a steel plate that cannot be penetrated, so why not?

I think free lean needs to be completely reworked if it's ever going to be anything but cheese.

[runic oak]

idk never used it

i only use q and e

[astral warren]

Maybe VOID could just suck it up and add prone like they didn't want to because it "encourages camping", whatever the fuck that means in a tactical shooter. Most confused devs of all time award, tbh. A prone stance would let you expose a very small amount of your body while preventing the cheese of free lean by greatly impairing your mobility and making you vulnerable to flanking, in exchange for the smallest amount of exposure to a known threat.

[tacit gull]

I don't think RON needs a prone mechanic, especially not in PVE

[frail pier]

I've seen this episode before

[modest bear]

Almost certainly

[runic oak]

how about a frag grenade

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

Suspects can now throw frag grenades at you

(you still can't)

[runic oak]

yeah sure why not

[tacit gull]

Would probably suck, but i can see it in PVP

[runic oak]

wait does ron have pvp?

[shy tulip]

Soon™️

[tacit gull]

In PVE it would be terrible, whole mission is over because you're paraplegic and can't move away

[frail pier]

Ight we copying zero hour with this one

[astral sequoia]

me and my friends have done it ourselves by clearing the mission then having a death battle

[agile ermine]

Would be nice or Atleast the ability to mount your gun behind cover

[tacit gull]

Yeah, that would make sense

[agile ermine]

Oh also it would be nice to be able to actually crouch

The player crouch is very weird

[tacit gull]

It's kinda pointless since the free lean just lets you crouch better

[agile ermine]

Yh

The crouch is more like a legs wide lol

[tacit gull]

do the split

[agile ermine]

They should make AI worse at aiming depending on their experience

Some random crack addict shouldn’t be able to shoot me in the head from half a map away with a unscoped gun

[blazing glade]

there is a MOD AFAIK

[lucid umbra]

I NEED TO KNOW when the devs decided on LOS SUENOS where they thinking of LOS SANTOS? LOS SANTOS POLICE DEPARTMENT "LSPD" LOS SUENOS POLICE DEPARTMENT "LSPD"

[sturdy summit]

anyone else having issues with using mods after home invasion dropped

damn i cant send media here

[frail pier]

There's a mod being worked on. It's someone else working on it. Not Nexi from the old PvP mod IIRC

[sturdy summit]

it keeps showing me "Serialisation Error: Action Needed" "Corrupt files found please verify installation"

[stone bay]

On carriers of the vine does anyone know where to find elaine raskins? ive searched the entire map, secured all civs, brought order to chaos and got eva nader. I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE SHE IS

[amber dock]

church?

[stone bay]

ive searched the entire map 5 times

[amber dock]

I find that hard to belive cause I've never heard off a HVT not spawning at all like never seen or heard that. She must be lurking somewhere, behind doors surrendered etc. Cause atm if a CIV or suspect are in surrendered state they don't say anything

[stone bay]

yeah this isnt the first time this glitch has happened im 100% sure its bugged

[stable kernel]

There is a bug with that map if you have an AI mod where one of the HVT's do not spawn

[amber dock]

bruh

vanilla wise I've never heard of it happen

[muted star]

You could incap her and didn't notice

Gotta arrest her still

[runic oak]

any tips for valley of dolls?

[amber dock]

Lots and lots and lots of gas

[runic oak]

i got everyone but the last guy and my teammates missed the flash and hit me with it so i got gunned down

[amber dock]

Yeah that's unlucky, gotta keep trying sadly, that map is very tough. bottom floor and outside area

[runic oak]

do i go top to bottom or bottom to top?

[amber dock]

Always top to bottom

[runic oak]

is there a way to change ai loadout?

[amber dock]

yeah, just go to locker room and click on their call signs. Like alpha,bravo etc etc. Just make sure to click apply so they actually get the loadout

[runic oak]

i left the mission with E score, Couldnt bother to find the last civil

[lean valve]

MEOW

[wicked salmon]

I remember at one point the guys on Dollhouse were supposed to have flashbangs.

[forest lichen]

there's a mod

[stone bay]

best gun besides sa-58

[royal nimbus]

1301

[surreal vessel]

Is there a way to get a different variation of the shield without modding?

[tacit gull]

Paying $80 before the game came out

[urban walrus]

No, there isn't

[forest lichen]

any rifle that's in .300 Blackout

[stone bay]

alrifht thats good

[forest lichen]

the F90

5.56 is stupid good when it's used in longer barrels

[stone bay]

im using the f90 and see that its quite good against armoured and unarmoured suspects

[forest lichen]

the F90 being a bullpup design, has the same length as a 10'4 inch AR-15 but has a 16 inch barrel instead

[stone bay]

so which one would you reccpmend

[forest lichen]

any really

which one you think is the coolest and tickles you fancy the most

[stone bay]

most guns

like f90 and any other gun really

[forest lichen]

switch between them each mission

[stone stump]

barrel length makes no difference in ron, only the caliber does

[lost inlet]

LVAR

[stone bay]

its alr

mcx is a no brainer, 0 fucking recoil along with being short as shit

[lost inlet]

Well, it looks the best but i still wouldn’t use it due to it’s muzzle jump. Still prefer using Arn 180

[stone bay]

not as short as the slr47

[lost inlet]

Ak are wild

[stone bay]

literally

useless as shit and isnt even that powerful

[lost inlet]

[stone bay]

ive tried it and it couldnt even 2 tap an UNARMORED suspect

[lost inlet]

I would disagree with you but my phone is one life support now so i’ll skip for bow

[stone bay]

alg

[jolly verge]

With slr?

[stone bay]

yeah

[jolly verge]

It's always 2 torso tap with AP or JHP up to L3A vests

same for .300 and 7.62x51

[lost inlet]

So either you missed completely, hit the limbs while using AP or the ai’s wonky hitboxes

[plush leaf]

B1301

[stone bay]

yeah i used to use it

[plush leaf]

The best instrument to turn enemies into past tense

And to make hamburgers

[plush leaf]

Or hitreg issues with the AK itself

Also it just looks ugly asf with the full stock

[forest lichen]

Weird

7.62x39mm is really good against tissue

Well they're one of the few calibers that can dismember limbs

Probably because it overpenetrates

[plush leaf]

No?

Only shotguns can dismember limbs AFAIK

[dreamy bronze]

whats wrong with ready or not now, so many mods i downloaded cant be used due to serilization error. why is it, some of those mods came out just few months ago or even weeks

😭

[runic oak]

sounds like a skill issue..

[plush leaf]

Same

[sudden marsh]

when is VOID gonna change the recommended specs on the store page?
its clearly not accurate with the stuff they did with UE5

[cursive minnow]

According to them it is #1275941842378166333 message

[sudden marsh]

lol that is not true whatsoever it runs at 30-40 on low which isn't the standard for benchmarks
nor is it smooth and stable but yeah ill take their word for it

[errant musk]

uhhh is it just me or my fps always drop like 1/2 when I look at swat AI

[analog lintel]

What's the difference between the safe mode and launch clean mode/save data launch options?

[tacit gull]

Safe mode launches and clean save data deletes your save files

[analog lintel]

Glad I asked first before starting lol

[tacit gull]

Use safe mode if you want to run without mods

[analog lintel]

Ok thx

[burnt quarry]

Does the AI react to Flashlights and Laserpointers?

[amber dock]

Flashlights yes, lasers I don’t think so

[tacit gull]

Except it doesn't really work, so i wouldn't worry about it

[dreamy bronze]

how is it skill issue, its the devs problem

[muted star]

modder issue

[runic oak]

fr

[tacit gull]

It's not the dev's problem that the mods you downloaded dont work lmao

They're not developing the game for mods, it's the other way around

[rotund grove]

the non-lethal is such dogshit

[civic surge]

Use the beanbag shotgun

[rotund grove]

Oh I am, works like 60% of the time

some dudes just eat them point blank and keep blasting away

CS gas has a radius of 3 ft

[civic surge]

That's why I like the lethal guns, just clip them in the shoulder or legs

[rotund grove]

Ive been trying to get S on Hide and Seek for two weeks

and its driving me nuts

[tacit gull]

Just use the taser

[hybrid hazel]

Oh my god bruh..i just recorded a true solo S run on datacenter only to find out that my recording software didnt get the audio

[runic oak]

valley of the dolls is so hard bro

[hybrid hazel]

its alright, depends on what you wanna do

[hybrid hazel]

first MLG tip for Valley of the dolls - do not ever walk down the stairway where all the windows to the pool are - thats just begging for trouble and the area after that is a tactical nightmare too

[runic oak]

just get over with it

[hybrid hazel]

okay, then just go ez mode and take gas with you - the many rooms are perfect for gas usage

[scenic crescent]

Since when could you look around while aiming? I just realized

[cursive minnow]

That's been a thing since forever.

[scenic crescent]

Oh.

[unborn kestrel]

how to get kicked outta a lobby within seconds:

use soundpad

you used to call me on my cellphone

[runic oak]

i cant find the last people in the narc tunnels

nvm he was somehow outside

[robust cove]

Last night i did all the missions and unlocked a bunch of clothing. I launch today and I am reset. Anyone know why?

[cursive minnow]

Best guess your game bugged out and or steam cloud and didn't save the unlocks and there's no way of reversing that. I'd say just find a save to download and use that if you don't wanna do it all again.

[robust cove]

Would uninstalling and reinstalling maybe fix it

[fierce thorn]

Is S-Ranking it THAT hard? I finished doing that in a day 😭

[alpine viper]

Just had the lighting on the club map go from needing nvgs to being super bright and visible after a restart. Anybody else have this happen before?

[rotund grove]

In its current state with non lethals as being buggy as shit. Throw CS and doesn’t do anything, start shooting beanbags and a guy eats 7 of them while dumping his AK

[stone stump]

no, reinstalling the same files will not change a thing

[stone stump]

beanbag one shoots :P

and CS works as area denial

[rotund grove]

it certainly does not

unless they are standing within 4 ft of the CS grenade it doesnt seem to do much

[lone cloud]

if you headshot it does

[rotund grove]

the big sleep

[alpine viper]

Just me? 😂

[frigid warren]

anyones game stuck at roughly 40 fps?

[oblique sail]

The FPS is all over the place since moving to UE5. Had around 120 on Max at 1080p with a Ryzen 5600X and RX 6600 XT before, now i have 80 at High, with stuttering due to VRAM usage being abnormal high no matter which texture setting i use, it always goes beyond 8GB VRAM. So much for minimum of 2GB of VRAM and recommended of 6GB of VRAM

[stone stump]

radeon moment

[lone cloud]

no not at all

this game heavily favours radeon

[stone stump]

the same way fallout new vegas favors it, i guess?

[oblique sail]

Nothing to do with AMD. People report the same crap with NVIDIA. Performance was always bad.

Now it's even worse

[stone stump]

nevermind, amd actually fixed that issue

[stone stump]

there's always something to do with amd

[scenic crescent]

What was the age PG in this game again?

[oblique sail]

No, there isn't. Same thing happened with my old 1060 6GB. VRAM overflow on any texture setting at DX12 on the latest update. Some settings don't even work, like Anti-Aliasing.

[wooden prawn]

accidental friendly fire with a thrown grenade is one of the stupidest/worst penalties in the game

especially when it is not even near them

is there a way of removing it or something

[scenic crescent]

Or when someone you made surrender stands up and dras their pistol and you hit them whit a pepperball and it counts as a penalty

[stone stump]

none

[wooden prawn]

if the game devs do not want to remove it somebody should make a updated mod to stop it from penalizing you for unintended friendly fire from sting balls and flashbangs

especially ones not near you

[stiff aurora]

I've got unauthorized use of force a few times when getting shot by a suspect. Luckily it is fairly rare

[stone stump]

literally impossible to violate RoE without using some kind of force

[stiff aurora]

Playing with randoms tonight has been a rather miserable experience

[lone cloud]

[stiff aurora]

I really despise this games online matchmaking. It hasn't improved much since the beginning of early access

[stone stump]

calling it a matchmaking is an overstatement

[white burrow]

hello everyone, find a guy who can play together with me

[stone stump]

#🔎looking-for-players

[lone cloud]

to be fair it does match make with players closest to you

[stone stump]

nope, it's ping based

which might but not always is correlated with the distance

[lone cloud]

but more often than not it is

[hot jetty]

hi guys

its my first time playing the game

[pure rose]

If you shoot a fellow officer irl what do you think happens? Fucking nothing?!?

[burnt lagoon]

better than 2021 ron 😭 the taser didnt even function

[rotund grove]

True

[stone bay]

good luck

[solid coral]

It's been a good while since I last played RoN. Do the AI still wall bang you with pinpoint accuracy?

[stone bay]

yeah

[stone bay]

ik damn well its gonna happen again on multiple levels so i quit commander and i focus on story now

[rotund grove]

yup, less lethal works half the time and with some things not at all, friendly AI blocks doors and hallways

[prime wing]

You should try the game

[errant blade]

do achievements work in multiplayer now? more or so talking about the s rank one

[forest lichen]

Everybody knows randoms don't cooperate when they're playing a coop shooter

[wooden prawn]

I am talking specificly the grenades that you throw down a hall and just happen to hit your ai teammates like not intending or even near them penalizing you for it

[meager epoch]

how many missions have you played, and you wanna play multiplayer? ill be happy to help you if you want

[meager epoch]

wait i thought commander was the story mode

[pure rose]

it is idk what hes on about

[stone bay]

same thing

WAIT IDK WHAT THE FUCK I SAID BEFORE SORRY

i had a brain fart i was supposed to say multiplayer

[meager epoch]

is the visceral blood mod not working for you guys its not working for me i think

[wooden tundra]

if someone has the home invasion dlc do i need it to play it?

[forest lichen]

you only need one person in the lobby to have the dlc to host the dlc missions

[pastel solar]

okay so ive been trying to play realistically(with squad) and i tried searching up realistic ron gameplay but i dont usually get much, and i need this bc i wanna play realistically in the pacing, commands, and trigger-happiness to real swat teams

so can anyone tell me how like a swat team usually goes about raiding a building in a hostage situation?

[tacit gull]

The game isn't realistic

The SWAT AI is also incredibly dumb, it's better you handle rooms by yourself and drag them around

Just hope they dont go into rooms by themselves anyway

[pastel solar]

yeah cause

irl, when u tell ur swat team to clear a room, theyre gonna move through it slowly, not get to one point in it and just stop

like

wait in real life if theres hostages, will a swat team just clear room after room rapidly, or go slow?

also do they use a shit ton of grenades like in swat 4 or just go in with guns

[tacit gull]

In real life you get as many people as you can in a room as fast as you can

[pastel solar]

and do they really only shoot if the suspects start shooting back

[pastel solar]

huh wdym, like you move through the building as fast as u can?

[tacit gull]

If they know someone is in a room and is a threat they'll probably use flashbangs

[pastel solar]

but how r u supposed to know? irl they dont have the wand

its literaly impossible to nkow whithout snipers, which this game doesnt have, and i dont like using wand cause it doesnt even exist irl

[tacit gull]

No, you dont block doors and you cover the corners

[tacit gull]

Also, that's stupid, not that you need the wand to clear rooms, but there are equivalents

[pastel solar]

there are?

[tacit gull]

Mirrors on a stick have been a thing since forever, there are drones, pipecams etc.

[pastel solar]

i play a lot of swat 4, and i thought swat just uses grenades if they dont know whos in a room

ohh

[tacit gull]

The wand is just SWAT 4's fashionable way to do it

[pastel solar]

ohh

[tacit gull]

The most unrealistic thing about it is that it works under every door

[pastel solar]

yea cause not every door has

[tacit gull]

But in reality you could just peek the door open and stick it through

[pastel solar]

a space under it

[tacit gull]

So if you want to use the wand "realistically" there you go

[pastel solar]

wait also what do they do if they dont see threats? will they still use grenades?

and irl when theyre moving thru a room does the squad commander lead while group follows or is there a diff order

[tacit gull]

They can't grenade every single room for multiple reasons

Also in real life the commander is issuing orders to more than 5 people

In a real raid you're probably not gonna have less than 20 men on scene

[pastel solar]

oh yeah they clear the building like divided

u can do that in swat 4, but its kinda complicated cuz u gotta look thru their bodycams

i prefer raiding as a single unit

alr well thanks dude

[forest lichen]

real life raids have multiple units or elements raiding

sometimes they're only there just to secure a floor or a room that's already been cleared and commence sse

also do you really think a police department would just send 5 guys to save the senator's family

[blazing flame]

is it normal for the swat AI to be acting super buggy on carriers of the vine? They'll just stand there half the time while being shot at

[muted star]

Nah

[pastel solar]

Wait but another issue I see is irl, no raging civilian is gonna have the strength to 360 headshot me before I can blink

So why the hell in games like Ron and swat 4 is that a genuine issue where I get 360 oneshotted

[forest lichen]

that's because in both games, their regular breakfast for the local civilians contains the following:
5 kg of protein powder
2 kg of creatine
1 kg of cocaine
750 grams of methamphetamine
500 ml of steroids
200 grams of cannabis
400 grams of caffeine
Followed by binge watching the entire John Wick series, 5 John Woo Movies, 10 Steven Seagal Movies, and speed running Max Payne 1 & 2

[winter pendant]

Lmao

[long cipher]

is 1.5min s run on lethal obsession solo good or can i optimize it any more? xd

[simple drum]

Now I want a top down SWAT game where you manage multiple teams in real time 👀

[muted star]

Doorkickers is the closest thing

[forest lichen]

https://youtu.be/eWmFfv8Ot48?si=tHGwEI0KtUuHsqzp
mix of doorkickers and ready or not

[hot jetty]

none

[stiff aurora]

Another S rank run ruined because a gun fell under the map. And my game got stuck in loading screen after that

[fierce thorn]

L luck

[wise marsh]

anyone down to go duo ron or trio?

[stone bay]

I'm definitely aint joining a unit anytime soon im 15

[lean valve]

its always that one motherfucker that gets me

im trying to s rank the game and i get fucked royally in the ass

[silk junco]

say what

[keen mauve]

Anybody got a transparent LSPD logo of any kind?

[lament widget]

yo @gaunt gale

Im trying to do the fool achievement, i got killed by a civillian and it didnt give me it 💀

is it bugged

[gaunt gale]

Huh. Which civilian killed you? @lament widget

[lament widget]

nvm i got it

it was the lady from valley in the dolls or smth i was on multiplayer, switched to singleplayer and it worked

[weary hedge]

players keep killing me for no reason

i aint getting in their way or being useless, they just keep shooting me with intent

[silk junco]

uh huh

whatever you gotta tell yourself

[weary hedge]

no need to talk to me like a prick

i kept getting team killed, and afterwards they would shoot my body. it was intended and with malice. as far as i am aware, i didnt do anything wrong or anything at all to warrant that being done to me. theres no reason for you to be acting a prick towards me

[cursive minnow]

Calm down now, it's best to just ignore people if they act like pricks. Now then I would overall just recommend you use the #🔎looking-for-players channel to find people to play with and host the matches yourself so you can kick or ban anybody from your lobby who will team kill you as well as make this less likely to happen as while not guaranteed you're less likely to run into trolls or other nuisances by doing so and can potentially find teammates who want to play the same way you do.

[weary hedge]

thank you, ill try looking for players in this server to play with instead of randoms

[pastel solar]

wait but also

and this question is mostly for swat 4 but also ready ro not, why the fuck am i forced to take suspects in just to pass the mission

like what if by chance every suspect i come across refuses to negotiate, then i fail the mission? i still saved the innocent people and neutralized the threats

[umbral oar]

u dont fail if you kill all the susepcts

[pastel solar]

another thing, whenever itell my team(ai) to breach and clear or open and clear, i dont know when to go dude

because if i go at the end, theres a cahnce they might die because theyre stupid

but if i go at the front, i might die because ill be blocking them from coming into the room and supporting me

i try going like 2nd but then it feels like im just getting in their way

this problem is mostly in swat 4 but also in ron, does anyone nkow when the game wants you to go in during a breach and clear(1st 2nd 3rd etc)

[native rune]

That’s the thing, it really doesn’t want you to go at all. Suspects will prioritize shooting you iirc, your ai teammates do not move fast enough to cover you if you are point man, they do not stop advancing past other thresholds, and going last obviously doesn’t leave you to do much but technical stuff.

Most people just solo clear and leave the bots to do security, and generally it’s best if you do the pie slicing before they advance anywhere anyways, same with throwing grenades.

Basically if I don’t feel like clearing an area, or it’s too “icky” (lots of places I can’t watch by myself) I just send them and hope for the best, and cover the spot I know they won’t after playing the map many times and knowing they won’t be looking that particular way.

[misty island]

How Kaminsky is supposed to fix that, lol?

[lament widget]

Never said he needed to fix it? i just asked him

[misty island]

I mean, what is the point to ping a communtity manager for such problem? Any other player would have helped you. And I am just curious, what seemed to be the problem?

Did you try do to the achievemnt in Sp or MP?

[lament widget]

Because i felt like it man idk what to tell you

I just see a familiar name i seen from 2-3 years ago in a different community so thats just the first contact i ask a question to

[pastel solar]

in that case, maybe ill do leader and clear or just go last.

[misty island]

Yes, but can you still answer me, please, if you did the achievement in SP or MP?

[lament widget]

I already got i had to do it in SP

Theres like a handful of achievements u can only do on sp i just figured that out

[misty island]

Right, thank you! I am collecting broken achievements in MP and I think "The Fool" is still broken.

[misty island]

Yeah, some of them are on MP and some are just broken.

[lament widget]

I tried doing way out west for like a hour straight and its very broken like even if u only use the revolver it just bugs out apparently u cant command ur team at all, cant even kick doors u just have to open doors and kill its super annoying

[misty island]

That is one of the achievement I was curios, if it will count in MP after supposed fix.
In SP it should work, I do not understand the problem. Just tell your AI to open doors and push forward. Although, you can solo the mission with revolver.

[lament widget]

Ill try it again some time but i was only using revolver, told my team to clear out a bunch of areas did everything and it didnt give me the achievement soooo idk

Its just super buggy

[misty island]

With teammates you can use only "Open and clear". No shield, no grenades, no mirror. No anything.

[pastel solar]

ok so i just played a swat 4 mission(red library offices), and i used a lot of mirroring, and a lot of grenades, as well as using sniper to actually do recon instead of just kill

but tell me, is it normal for officers to get injured on a swat mission?

like do swat officers usually get injured? because one of my dudes got injured during an open and bang

[shy tulip]

If you're referring to real swat work, no. SWAT calls are really simple, most of the time they don't even end with any fighting. Hence why real swat work does not make fun gameplay

[simple drum]

Exactly. In real life, they won't send a five man team to take out 20+ suspects on Port. IRL it'd be multiple SWAT teams responding. Normally always outnumbering the number of suspects

[shy tulip]

Port more than likely wouldn't happen in real life, not in the way the game portrays. People very much throw around the term realism without thinking of what that actually looks like

[pastel solar]

but in a real scenario where there are multiple hostiles, would it be normal for a swat officer to get injured?

[pastel solar]

ive tried... doign that in swat 4 but ITS SO CONFUSING bc they dont have any intellignece, so you have to look through their bodycam and tell them commands that way, but that kind of makes the gameplay like 2x more difficult

because ur managing 2 teams on opposite sides of the building

[simple drum]

I've been playing through SWAT 4 recently too. It stills holds up remarkably well especially with SEF mod. RoN definitely has some nice QOL features though that SWAT 4 doesn't have

[shy tulip]

If I can find it, I'd be happy to send a clip from Dallas swat (a show where they followed around multiple teams irl) that as soon as the suspect shot at them they ran back to the bearcat

Swat will just sit outside the location and literally or metaphorically starve out a suspect unless they have to go in, like hostages

This isn't the episode, but you can see how much time is spent just waiting for the guy to come out before they go in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwNCrihKbfI&ab_channel=A%26E

[forest lichen]

What about Arrest Warrants?

[quaint sundial]

So, any new news on RoN's QOL updates?

Specifically, the ability to issue commands to players in multiplayers.

(I'm deaf. I would LOVE the middle-mouse-button command menu to be usable in squads.)

Ping me whenever there's an answer, thanks.

[plush leaf]

Now to think of it, what other guns/attachments/magazines (or features) do you want to see in-game that MIL/LEO do use irl?

I kinda wanna see the Redi-Mag equipped to the Mk 18 in-game to make it a bit more unique, making the first reload faster like the Flux Raider already in-game.

Also the SURG upper receiver as an integrally suppressed 5.56 option would be rad.

[urban walrus]

Should be in game aready since 1.0 https://youtu.be/0nj6qWDNU0A?si=KL_K1hvMTkLGixxN&t=609

[quaint sundial]

Wrong answer. I was talking about multiplayer.

The command menu does not send messages to other players in your squad, nor does it highlight the items when you issue an order pertaining to it (such as wedging doors, breaching, etc)

I may be deaf, but that doesn't mean I wanna play exclusively with AI

So when I use MMB to select a door with Breach, Bang, Clear - the rest of the players do not receive that

[shy tulip]

It will play the voice command for them to go and breach, but it will not tell players where they should go, players have autonomy for that one

[quaint sundial]

I'm pretty sure I haven't received any such voice commands.

Maybe it's because it is not properly implemented that people don't even use it?

But my point, dude, is that it needs to be improved on so that people can use it more often, rather than relying on microphone or winging it

[forest lichen]

Mk17

[plush leaf]

As expected, everyone wants it. That and the Mk 14 EBR

[forest lichen]

(i just like the SCAR-H)

Would be cool to see a MK18 Block I

Maybe a 40 S&W and 10mm pistol

[plush leaf]

We have the Block I. We might as well should ask for an update to the Block II

[forest lichen]

Mod 0 is Block I?

Which one uses the Quad rail DD Handguard again

[plush leaf]

Well yes but no. If anything it actually predates the Block I. The only difference is the stock.

The Block II uses the DD RIS II.

[forest lichen]

Yeah the Block II

Do any LEO use the Block 2?

[plush leaf]

It's possible I'd think so

[prime wing]

certainly not a patrol rifle

at least i havent seen those lol

[plush leaf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GunPorn/comments/hxpmi0/shooting_a_swat_officers_ddm4_mk18/

[urban walrus]

It's in Multiplayer/Coop, "for more immersive player-to-player communication with or without a mic, you'll also now be able to issue orders to your online teammates using the built-in command menu"

[prime wing]

Yeah but he still doesnt find it useful as it doesnt highlight specific locations.

[plush leaf]

I mean, there is no evidence of SWAT using the F90 or the DDM4 PDW anyways... and here we are

[prime wing]

which would be the equivalent of a ping system

[quaint sundial]

While I do appreciate that it supposedly works, @prime wing is correct, there needs to be a visual contextual cue to help with it

Especially since some of the missions can be very hectic or fast-paced.

It would also be helpful to have a quick-press context button that lets me call out contacts to alert others that I have made contact with a suspect or otherwise engaged in a situation that prevents me from proceeding

(Similar to Battlefield 2's quick-click comm rose where if you only tapped the comm rose button, and you were looking something, it would issue the appropriate message to the team)

[pure rose]

yes because i ping dorways all the time irl

[quaint sundial]

Consider it an accessibility feature that can be turned off

[plush leaf]

Never for the life of me seen any sort of visual ping

[quaint sundial]

Rather than trying to argue against it, you should be supporting it, folks. Accessibility features ought to, and should always, be optional and useful

[pure rose]

maybe turned on but on by default nah

[quaint sundial]

That's fine, as long as it's something that can be used

[plush leaf]

The "highlight weapons" and subtitles are extremely useful ngl

[forest lichen]

yeah idk why an Aussie rifle is in our hands in the first place

[quaint sundial]

Suppose your element has split into two teams, and the element leader says "breach bang clear", but he's on the other side of the hallway, and you're not sure which door needs it

[urban walrus]

@quaint sundial Well, write a post about it in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1050529506022137876 or https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527850874597446 so it has more chance to be seen by the devs, doing it here will be more likely to get the message washed away by the other messages.

[plush leaf]

Should've been an AUG A3 SF with a NATO magwell

[quaint sundial]

Mmkay.

[forest lichen]

Eh the version we have in game accepts STANAG's so

Honestly I don't know what weapons for the game to add other than another AR-15 since that's what most US SWAT Teams use

What about shotguns and SMG's

[plush leaf]

Some sort of magfed shotgun. The Genesis Arms Gen-12 breacher variant can do as the Army chose it as their new shotgun iirc

[quaint sundial]

Done.

[plush leaf]

SCAR, Mk 14, SR-25, hell even an AK-103 can do as Alaskan police use them

[forest lichen]

Mossberg 590 with a magazine feed?

[plush leaf]

That can do as well

[forest lichen]

Oh wait

Ok this sounds weird but

FNC

[plush leaf]

A Heat enjoyer I see

[forest lichen]

Reference to Heat 1995 where Al Pacino's character uses it

Even if it's barebones that we can't put anything on it, I'll still use it

Tho the most modern iteration of the thing is either the Swedish AK5 series or the Indonesian SS2 series

[urban walrus]

Now let's pray and hope that they might see and do something to it sometime in the future

[plush leaf]

https://www.tbasuppressors.com/FN-FNC-Quad-Rail_p_41.html

[prime wing]

a reason why they have in game chat was to provide an option for communication with or without mic/ with or without hearing. For me it has been sufficient when it comes to letting people what we are doing.

A ping system, or a way to highlight doors/openings or spots seems like a new UI nightmare for the game. With guns as evidence having the colored sillouete it helps, but i imagine they would have to create a system for that and that it works for everyone in the lobby to mark a single spot/wall or door.

there arent signals or emotes in the game so its somewhat limited

[forest lichen]

well ill be damned

looks a bit like the SA58 handguard

[quaint sundial]

I don't think it's terribly difficult

Either you use a shader that toggles on when a command is given, or you add a 2D sprite (or 3D if style is important) that pops up that is relative to the coordinates of the targeted object

In terms of actual implementation, I can't see how it would be a UI nightmare, since all the elements for it to work are technically already there, and already exists as a capability in Unreal Engine

The only way it could be a problem is if it causes a glitch that turns the entire map into a glowing shader

Which would be equal parts hilarious and annoying.

But should be virtually impossible if the object itself is not interactable. So only objects like doors, switches, evidence, etc should be highlightable for such commands

Now if you wanted a waypoint-placement system, that gets a lot easier since it's just a hitscan positioning thing

Point, click, done.

But as we are talking about actually utilizing command menus with context-sensitive objects, the shader approach is the logical one

But then the question is how do you highlight doorways that have no objects to highlight?

This becomes a bit of a challenge, but if I'm not mistaken, SWAT 3 or SWAT 4 already had this resolved by showing waypoints with a traceline from your position to the destination

I'd have to reinstall the games to check that, though, it's been decades. TL;DR - the implementation of such basic GUI elements shouldn't be complicated in the long term, the main issue is deciding how it will function in relation to the most common use cases, as well as potential edge use cases

[plush leaf]

Indeed

[quaint sundial]

Here's an example I just thought of now - that birthday party map

There's a part that has a walkway over the bottom floor, and you can shoot down from the walkway, or throw down grenades, etc. Having a command that tells you where to throw a flashbang or CS canister, it would need a waypoint that shows up, in that particular scenario

And in my opinion it should look like a simple wireframe bracket like this [ ]

Literally just a few pixels wide for the lines, that way it doesn't look big and distracting, but clear enough to tell us where something is needed.

I could easily take a screenshot and do a quick and dirty mockup to illustrate my point, but I am about to go cook a double serving of mac and cheese, and I am going to put myself into a food coma soon after

[urban walrus]

Might as well put all of this into the post, if you don't have time to clean up things before adding it, a link or two to this discussion would be sufficient

[lost inlet]

Do you guys actually run AP and JHP on the same gun at the same time during a mission?

[quaint sundial]

Just copied my posts into there, lol

[quaint sundial]

Some people do, I don't. AP all the way, because it's more fun

[quartz cloud]

AP slugs in the silly orange shotgun

[quaint sundial]

I actually shot three suspects with a single burst, at the car dealership mission, because the bullets passed through the first two to hit the third.

[lost inlet]

Like you using a 9mm JHP, see a suspect with body armor, go back in cover to switch to AP mag and then take the suspect

[quartz cloud]

collat!

[quaint sundial]

7.62 is nice for that.

[quartz cloud]

anybody else have the problem of the AI going for headshots with the beanbag?

[quaint sundial]

Also on my second-ever mission in RoN, I will never forget having my very first hostage situation in the diner at the gas station

Saw the suspect grabbing a civilian and was about to put the gun to her head, she was still bent over in front of him. So I put an AP through his throat.

[lost inlet]

Didn’t that issue got fixed already?

[quartz cloud]

Still happens quite a bit for me

[quaint sundial]

I wish I had replays turned on for that particular encounter

And I would have absolutely saved that mission replay for all time.

[lost inlet]

Guess boid only reduced the chance of it to happen

[quartz cloud]

Then again, happens to me too sometimes, sometimes you just hit a headshot accidentally

[lost inlet]

Still wanting beanbag being able to knock someone out instead of outright killing them

[quartz cloud]

ah, isn't that incapacitated?

[quaint sundial]

Usually, but incaps for regular suspects flags them as dead and do not count as an arrest

[quartz cloud]

a suspect can be incapacitated or dead

[lost inlet]

Nope, just make the victim fall onto the ground then you can walk up and just tie them down

[quaint sundial]

I think it's more accurate to say that an incapacitation means the subject is going to the hospital soon.

And they may be alive or dead after that.

[lost inlet]

And they always alive and no unauthorized penalty

Great way to deal with bugged suspect that just outright refuse to surrender despite 5 swat are literally up in their face and yelling at them

[quaint sundial]

I've found that if you incapacitate all the suspects in that mission - the Villa or whatever, where you have those Veterans to deal with - you don't get the 3 arrests required in the mission objectives

[quartz cloud]

taser also works

[quaint sundial]

That's why I mentioned that incaps don't count as arrests.

[lost inlet]

Nah, seen some of suspects still able to resist getting tased

Yeah you shocking them but they are not on their knees yet

[quartz cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268642245163089963/1275568312121688094/IMG_20240816_111511.gif

[lost inlet]

Beanbag just make them rag doll on the ground and you just ties them

[quartz cloud]

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[lost inlet]

Beanbag shotgun’s stat already quite balanced. 7 rounds, pump action, huge muzzle jump and not a hitscan weapon. Now it’s just need being able to rag doll it’s target and you just made S rank a lot easier

[quaint sundial]

Unfortunately, ragdolling a target with a beanbag is unrealistic

Because, well. I've seen how it works against actual suspects. It just makes them jump. Hit them in the head, though, they could get knocked out or suffer severe brain trauma

[lost inlet]

This is ready or not. Realistic already been thrown out of the window

[quaint sundial]

OK, fine, then let's have an April Fool's DLC pack adding Civil War era cannons with grapeshot

(soon as you say "realism gets thrown out the window", I'm going to start making unrealistic demands. Be careful of what you say.)

[lost inlet]

Breaching shotgun takes comically amount of headshots to kill someone but a beanbag guarantee killed everything in it’s path?

Slug doesn’t outright blows someone’s arms off and need more than 2 shot to incap someone when hitting them in the limbs

Suspects’s gas mask and helmet doesn’t give them any buff at all

[quaint sundial]

I've blown someone's arm off with a slug, though?

Especially at Sins of the Father, where suspects are usually in the hallways. Seeing blood splattered all over the walls because of a slug is...disconcerting sometimes

[lost inlet]

We need a balance here. Make sense and still fun is what i’m looking for. Can’t be too realistic to the point it’s frustrating and can’t be too comically like it’s just walked out of a cartoon

[lost inlet]

Mods? Pretty sure only buckshot can do that

[prime wing]

late response but I think thats meant to happen per design

for better or worse, I understand why they cant have perfect aim with less lethal

[jolly verge]

Slugs can dismember too, but need more shots

[prime wing]

thus why I prefer doing less lethal myself, I know when to stop and when to continue hitting folks before getting penalties

[lost inlet]

Really? I see

[quartz cloud]

challenge: 22lr dismemberment

[lost inlet]

Use the American 180

[plush leaf]

AP in rifle, JHP in handgun

[plush leaf]

Based

[tulip basin]

anyone wanna do a quick mission w me

[alpine stump]

What’s with the mindjot ppl are they like terrorists? or what

[misty island]

Mostly just normal guards.

[alpine stump]

Do they hate cops or smth? Why they shooting at us

[hexed leaf]

just ron stuff

[full shore]

Makes sense. According to physics at least

Holy lag

[misty island]

Someone dressed as a cop and came there to steal something. Now they think that you are robbers and not cops.

[alpine stump]

Oh right makes sense now lol

[steep ridge]

how coincidental

[pearl shuttle]

They're also just really stupid

[stone bay]

Has anyone heard about a guy called WatchmenWakeUpOnYt in lobbies?

[lone cloud]

everyone has

[stone bay]

What does he do?

[lone cloud]

afks in lobbies mic spamming a sermon on loop

[frail pier]

Why are you talking about me?

[clear dust]

does suppressor actually do something other than the stat? like not alert enemy who can't hear a shot

[runic oak]

are you using temu slugs

[tacit gull]

It slightly lowers stress gain

[frail pier]

Half the stress per shot iirc

[pearl anchor]

hello

[forest lichen]

no

they do have less range than an unsuppressed weapon but your yelling will ultimately be louder

honestly i just use it because it looks and sound cool and also it makes a distinction between enemy and friendly gunfire

[amber dock]

In what way?

[wooden tree]

i got modded maps but they wont pop up in the map selector what to do?

[junior wedge]

best RoN mods?

[lost inlet]

temu slugs? Is that a thing irl?

[tacit gull]

I think cutting shells in half counts as temu slugs

[forest lichen]

cut shells were pretty popular with birdshot to make them more lethal

[tacit gull]

I always wondered though, wouldn't cut shells run the risk or getting stuck in the gun or even just flying off at random trajectories?

[clear dust]

jhp make suspect bleed out and die? i shot some guy and he was incapacitated when I first report him then i look back he die and i have to report again

[tacit gull]

if you hit them in the limbs or neck they can bleed out

[clear dust]

probably bc i just spray my pistol at him

[forest lichen]

They're frangible rounds

Wait no, expanding bullets

A hollow-point bullet is a type of expanding bullet which expands on impact with a soft target, transferring more or all of the projectile's energy into the target over a shorter distance.

[clear dust]

yeah but i didn't know it can make suspect die after incapacitated

or that just my shot placement like gratr said

[forest lichen]

Yeah most likely shot placement

Probably hit them in the artery where they slowly bled to death

Coupled with the fact you're using JHP, the chance is higher

[tacit gull]

It really doesnt matter at the end of the day as long as they get reported or they're not a VIP

[eternal kindle]

I was wondering that can i beat RoN with steam link to my phone

[clear dust]

it was michael the streamer guy

he die so i kinda fail the mission

[tacit gull]

rip

[pastel solar]

Like bro this is a damn good arrested:killed ratio, but game still decides to give me only 85 😡 #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[dense sluice]

do guns block bullets or do anything to the gun thats hit? (for the suspects)

[lost inlet]

nope, it's can only spew bullets

[tacit gull]

I think you might be able to hit them but they dont get damaged in any way, they might just deal arm damage to suspects

[lost inlet]

gun's hitbox counts as arm's hitboxes as well?

i thought the bullet just phase through and doesn't do anything

[jolly verge]

Guns don't have any hitboxes, but some magazines do and you can hit them, which will reduce damage due to penetration

not sure if suspects have them too

probably depend on weapons

[lean valve]

how do i s rank postal?

i struggle alot with hitting my longshot beanbags when im outside

[clear dust]

pepper ball gun might work better

[lean valve]

they suck

[misty island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3190461026

[placid granite]

Pray

[misty island]

if you are playing in Commander mode, get two pacifiers.

[lean valve]

hell yeah

thanks dawg

[lean valve]

is there a way to make my ai squad better

[misty island]

In Commander mode they have different perks.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118547658

[amber dock]

This has been a thing since 1.0 but it’s been very buggy

[misty island]

It is only available in Quick play.

Theoretically, you can even complete mision on S rank like this.

[amber dock]

But it doesn’t always work like I said, but yes it’s a thing in practice mode

[river tide]

they never do that for me, especially near the end of the mission i die then they just stand in the same room

[misty island]

The system is mostly broken and does not work. They will get stuck at some point. Also, they do not know how to remove wedges, so AI will infinite kick the door.

[lean valve]

finally I GOT AN S RANK ON POSTAL THYANK YOU @misty island

[misty island]

No problem, mate. It is all you!

[lean valve]

can it be so that beanbags can penetrate through glass and through those weird little blinders in the middle area of valley of the dolls?

[misty island]

Glass - no. blinders- yes. Blinders are just cosmetical.

[stone bay]

I just completed Hide and Seek (port hokan), I didnt expect that one container

[placid granite]

The one time there’s somewhat of an actual dialogue

[fossil stream]

Can you still get the Way Out West achievement since Rust Belt’s map name has changed (I did it with AI using primaries and me only using the 357 like you can do in the Hanged Man Achievement but it didn’t give me it. Just lookin for some clarification if it is still obtainable.

[lean valve]

genuinely

i tell them to restrain this motherfucker, i come back and they are not restrained and because of that i see the message 'OFFICER DOWN'

[fossil stream]

Other than their perks not really. There are a few tricks where AI speed is not reduced form armor as they will always match your speed

[tacit gull]

I don't think the map's name changed, but even then it shouldn't have any effect

[fossil stream]

The achievement description says to beat Coyote only using the 357 however there is no map called that and all the videos are from nearly a year ago on the Border map that is somewhat different

[tacit gull]

Coyote is rust belt and rust belt never changed

[lean valve]

this game is making me rage like hell because of my stupid squadmates

and the beanbag bullets not hitting at times, on other guns it would hit the suspect crisp and clean but noooooo the beanbag shotgun has other ideas

[rare scaffold]

Did the game become less optimized?

Because it is playing a hell of a lot worse now than the beginning of the year

I am playing with low settings and it is still lagging, when medium worked well

[quiet linden]

i have a question. is it normal that with every new patch all my key bindings get reset?

[placid granite]

Yes

[quiet linden]

thx. are the devs planning to fix that?

[fossil stream]

Did the thing solo with only 357 and didnt get it... no ai

[tacit gull]

Did you kick any doors?

[jolly verge]

What else did you use?

[fossil stream]

Nothing

[jolly verge]

You sure? You did not even swap to anything?

[fossil stream]

I picked doors but nothing else

[jolly verge]

That the problem

[fossil stream]

That's wild

[jolly verge]

you cant use lockpick

You can kick doors with no problems

or order AI to breach it with any tool

[fossil stream]

So you can use AI?

[young solar]

raider attachment bug still doesnt fixed ?

[jaunty jacinth]

Is the home invasion dlc worth it? The reviews are mixed but the maps look cool

[pure rose]

It worked exactly once for me then it's bugged again

[pure rose]

I personally love the maps, the ai are a little easy but it's fun asl

[amber dock]

The mixed reviews are mostly about the performance issues the game got since DLC came out. The content itself is not the fault of the mixed reviews

[prime wing]

you can play with someone that has the dlc

You dont have to buy it right away

[prime wing]

^ Also this, a lot of issues are NOT because of the content itself

its a bit complicated to untangle the whole story

[opal current]

bro what do i do if my game crashed and my save game is not there anymore

[stone bay]

I can’t wait for the next DLC

Wish home invasion had a few more maps but I can’t complain

[dreamy pivot]

Just give up atp ponder life

[analog lintel]

How to switch from modded RoN to the safe mode RoN while avoiding crashes when selecting guns?

[bitter mason]

Launch through the steam library instead or right click it there and find the launch options in properties

Should give you the safe mode option

[stone bay]

Anyone know any mods that add a drone? Kinda surprised theres not one ingame

[bitter mason]

Don't think there is any

Don't think modding in Ron has gotten advanced enough to add such a thing

[inner basalt]

Hey , i might be dumb , but i've been trying to get some cinematic shots with the replays , and i can't understand the cinematic system , when i want to add a point , it does nothing , tried a lot of things and i just can't get it to work , any help ?

[bitter mason]

Pretty sure it's never worked
Replay is more buggy than it was ue5

[tacit gull]

Maybe with the SDK they'll hand out the old drone flight model

[icy wraith]

i guess your best bet is to navigate the camera yourself while recording the takes. Far from ideal, i know

[inner basalt]

[inner basalt]

I guess yeah , i'm trying to get some good shots for a video but i guess i'll have to stick with basic camera

[lean valve]

why do i always get just a+ when i do everything correctly?

everything is done, it even auto extracts me

[jolly verge]

You need arrest everyone alive, not incap/killed

[lean valve]

i do that

[jolly verge]

post score screen

[lean valve]

i am already in another thingy

could it be that one of the enemy shot a civ that incapacitated them?

[jolly verge]

Yes, suspects also can suicide on some maps which will also fail S run

[lean valve]

understood

[lean valve]

long range non lethal weapon that stuns enemy?

really need it 🙏 pepperball is good, but doesnt stun enemy fast enough and they keep shooting, beanbag is innaccurate and taser isnt long range

also how do door wedges work? one time i placed it and even then the door opened by a suspect some how

i have been for the last 5 hours been trying to ai squad s rank volls house

when you command your team to launch something, can you choose what they launch?

[eager nest]

Am i missing somethiogn with the scoped sights, like the Spectre? I don't have a graticle aiming mark when i look through?

[cursive minnow]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[tacit gull]

No

Honestly i would just take out the taser and clear everything myself as the AI really isn't capable to and you lose the S rank if they die anyway

[river tide]

taser

[river tide]

i had that issue before it’s due to resolution

[lean valve]

i have a flashbang and my ai squadmates have anti flash goggles, why does it still hurt them when i flash?

and they are behind the door, how the hell do i still get a penalty for friendly fire

[misty island]

Flash grenades do damage.

Any grenade does a little damage.

[misty island]

Explain this, please.
#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel message

[jolly verge]

#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel message

[misty island]

Ty

[bitter mason]

Goggles don't make you fully immune. If the grenade is close enough it will still deal a bit of damage and can affect you or your team
The goggles just stop the flash and lower the range you're affected

[potent stratus]

Bug, happened to me once on multiplayer

[potent stratus]

I'm not sure if it's a mod I'm using, but in certain situations you'll get the penalty but won't get any score subtracted

If the game is too bullshit for you, feel free to get an AI mod. I recommend Here I Come package, has a lot of options for many kinds of players

[lean valve]

understood

[lean valve]

fair enough

[potent stratus]

I nearly lost my mind S-ranking Relapse because of suspects commiting alt+f4

Almost gave up on this whole thing

[rugged brook]

Does anyone have a mod that reenables the safety selector on weapons?

[lean valve]

does the little heart monitor sound happen when an artery of you is hit?

[misty island]

No. If I do remember correctly and undestand it, it is a broken limb.

[misty island]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1886726900
Here is a overall useful link.

[tacit gull]

From experience it's just a low health indicator, doesn't play if you break your leg while kicking

[white oracle]

wait you can kill people and still get S rank????

[jolly verge]

It's indicate that your health is dropped to 40 or below this value, your max health is 160 without nutritionist trait

[bitter mason]

nop

you cant restart in the commander mode without leaving to the station and starting again. Quick play lets you restart whenever through the pause menu

[hidden drift]

just bought the game, any tips?

[dry cosmos]

have fun

[latent mist]

don’t play too fast

fear methheads

[forest lichen]

know your suspects and what to bring

know when to deliberately and dynamically clear rooms

use the right equipment for you and your team

[latent mist]

also don’t engage first

[forest lichen]

try to intimidate them
if they hesitate, hold your fire but be ready
if they start aiming at you or firing
fire at will

also personal opinion but don't use full auto

[latent mist]

also it’s ok to not get a perfect score on elephant

[forest lichen]

and also, know your maps and the layout

[hidden drift]

okay, thanks

[glacial ridge]

Definitely read the briefing it’ll help you know what guns to bring as it’ll talk about the enemies you’ll encounter and the type of armor they have if any.

[bitter mason]

I honestly dont remember the briefing giving much info on suspects tbh.
Other than “heavily armed”

[stone stump]

treating briefings as truth only is crazy

[bitter mason]

Its not even like theyre wrong intentionally half of the time. Theyre just straight up inaccurate in the worst ways at times
Like saying the living detective on dealer is inside but he just never shows up
Or the “underground garage” on 213 park homes

Lack of story related voice lines in game also doesnt help

[plush leaf]

He's dead already in the meeting room, shot in the head.

[mortal geyser]

whats new in this game i havent played in like for the entire year

[plush leaf]

New bizarre AI behaviors lmao

[bitter mason]

No there's two detective
One is dead the other is meant to be alive
There is voice lines for him in the game files

[mortal geyser]

Oh anything else?

[bitter mason]

1.0 release

[plush leaf]

He's wounded outside if you take the alternate entry from the streets

[bitter mason]

He is?
I've seen the cops not the detective

[plush leaf]

I mean he's wearing a red shirt and convulsing after getting shot

[bitter mason]

Screenshot?

[plush leaf]

Wait, just restarted a save file, gotta get a bit to Dealer

[bitter mason]

Darn

You could try Quick play
Might still have the levels unlocked on that

[mortal geyser]

bro

how do i know if my mods are corrupted

[urban walrus]

Check each of them, if any of them is not updated to work with home invasion patch 3 then it's very likely to be corrupted. If you think this is too much, then remove all the mods and start over.

[autumn bloom]

Because of both the game's shortcomings at the time and IRL things, I have really been checked out of most things with RON and gaming in general until recently. I tried to check up with the dev logs to get a sense of what has changed, and it seems like a good bit has. So my question is, has the absolutely broken officer mentality/ mental health system been 'fixed"? I think the concept is a good one, but the execution sucks.

1. Call tempo would not be that high, and if it was, other things would be in place; some might not make good gameplay ( team rotation), but others would, which brings me to

2. Your officer sub pool would never be that shallow in dept for a city that big.

3. Most of those officers would have never made the team if they were that mentally fragile. I am not saying specific scenarios are not jarring but the system at least what was seemed to abuse that for the purposes of " fun"

[river tide]

or in the streamer mission saying the guy killed his mom when she’s still alive because it was just a swatting

[misty island]

Nothing mostly changed. New updates brought us more bugs, more crashes and freezes. 3 new maps and 3 new weapons.

[autumn bloom]

Sadly, I am not surprised.

[bitter mason]

That is proper story misleading
My issue with streamer is the 10+ goons around the place

[river tide]

it makes sense their his body guards

it makes even less sense that they shoot at you first though

[bitter mason]

I think it makes no sense some dork like him has body guards especially that many lol

[river tide]

well he’s a loser streamer supposed to be one of the most famous, i mean that many is absurd but having around 5 isn’t that weird

[bitter mason]

He has waaaay more than 5 lol and they're all heavily armed

[hexed leaf]

the only "bodyguards" that would make sense for Michael Williams to have would be literal cockroaches

kinda like Asmongold

[bitter mason]

Streamer should be the first level with little to no armed suspects in my onion
And if they are armed it should just be a pistol
Would make a good starter or warmup level

[mortal geyser]

how do i know if theyre update with home invasion patch 3?\

[fierce thorn]

Make sure the date is on July 2024 or above

[amber dock]

24th of July and after

[river tide]

i think it’s even more dumb how in the gas station level they don’t even rob it they just stand in their rooms until you come by

[silk junco]

what pride flag is that

[bitter mason]

There is the money and bags on the floor
It's not like they haven't looted the place. But there are some animations of them messing with the atms inside you just never see them because they cancel as soon as they get spooked

[river tide]

i mean it would be more realistic if they try to hide because of them being trapped in because the cops are outside, the animations are them just standing there just looking around in the open, not very realistic

[bitter mason]

I've seen a meth head on 213 park homes chilling on the couch but he got up the second he saw me through the window
Any alert pulls them out of these animations so you just never see them

[bitter mason]

Yep
A lot needs to be done with suspects still

World building Animations need to not be interpreted as easily too

[frail pier]

I think its a new one

[urban walrus]

They should be updated after 21 August

[frail pier]

Hey thats my birthday

[tardy whale]

Hey.
Does anybody know if ron will get trackIR support in the future?

[silk junco]

nope

[tacit gull]

Not planned, but i don't doubt someone will mod it in with the freelook feature

[amber dock]

What use would it give anyway? Its not like flight sims dogfighting where you have to keep eyes everywhere

[tacit gull]

Being able to look around seamlessly is nice, works pretty nice in arma 3

[amber dock]

Yeah well Ron ain’t arma

Only thing they have in common is both games makes your 4000$ PC look like shit

[tacit gull]

More like they make the engines they're on look like shit

Even if you're not scanning fields like in arma it would be nice to not have to hold caps lock (especially with that horrrible base sensitivity)

[cunning fulcrum]

New player here. Would it be a good strat with a light and agile AR and a heavy sidearm? I'm also considering having a non-lethal and some more primary ammo instead of the secondary?

[tacit gull]

It's really not that deep, the rifles outclass the revolver in every situation and the 1911s are just worthless
If you want to get a less lethal you might aswell stick to trying to S rank the entire mission, you can also take the taser on any loadout

[lone cloud]

1911s are NOT worthless ive done plenty of pistol only stab vest runs and it does just fine

357 on the other hand. terrible, never use it

[cunning fulcrum]

It's more like that I prefer light ARs (I have bad aim ;) but then the sidearm should be heavy instead

[tacit gull]

There's literally no point to grabbing them over the USP which just has more ammo

[lone cloud]

point #1 they are sexy
point #2 i like shooting them

[lone cloud]

just use p90 and youre fine

[cunning fulcrum]

That's overkill ;)

[cunning fulcrum]

So USP45 is the best heavy sidearm?

And I like the default AR (I don't remember the name srry) so I guess I'll just use that

[tacit gull]

If you really want 0 recoil just use the g36

or the aussie aug

[cunning fulcrum]

Any downsides? Less penetration or anything?

[tacit gull]

No

minus style points for having it without the carryhandle

[cunning fulcrum]

Ok

[cunning fulcrum]

What's the difference? Just Aussie vs non-aussie?

Nvm F90 has long barrel

I guess I'll take that then because it benefits from that also

[frail pier]

Ok hear me out...
Five Seven pistol full auto actually fucks

[tacit gull]

I don't think long barrels actually help in this game, in fact they might hinder you since it'll put your weapon into high ready if you touch walls

[frail pier]

Basically

[vale tangle]

people who care about the meta in a non competitive game can’t comprehend fun

[frail pier]

So with UE 5.5 got teased you think void will let us shut the lights off on levels?

The teaser showed live lighting that's not baked. So I would assume but I don't know shit about game development

[prime wing]

unlikely, but then again they backtrack on a lot of decisions

[frail pier]

We can hope 🥲

[vale tangle]

there would need to be an advantage to walking in the dark as opposed to the light lol

seems like no matter the light level suspects always know where to shoot

[prime wing]

they are NOT changing how the ai behaves

😭

[frail pier]

Fack

[prime wing]

in light or dark

[frail pier]

@void when

[vale tangle]

please void was his fathers name call him john void

[frail pier]

Mr. VOID

[fossil bone]

does anyone actually have the ingamemenu overlay on the tilte screen cause I reinstalled the newest version of ingamemenu from nexus but the overlay isnt there

[tacit gull]

The newest IGM doesn't have an overlay yet

[bitter mason]

Having a look now and the detective is definitely no where on the street. there is two wounded cops. None of them are the detective in the briefing.
He simply is just not used in the level despite being in the briefing and having voice lines in the game files

[trail rivet]

I didn't know they could open wedge doors

[bitter mason]

happens when suspects take cover next to the door
they automatically swing it open but the game doesnt check if its wedged or not

suspects dont even try to open a wedged door anyways im pretty sure, they just start ignoring that door from their pathing which is pretty lame

[sweet sail]

Cool, so the usual where suspects have super good eyesight in the dark while we have to rely on NVGs 😅

[native rune]

78 briefings later and void still can’t unfuck the door wedges or get swat to open and close doors without jank

[opal basin]

how long is the arwc's barrel

theres this game that has a super extensive gunsmith and i am trying to recreate the arwc

[modern ivy]

where is my save file located

[forest lichen]

most likely 10'4 inch

[opal basin]

i used 12.5

[forest lichen]

check the Wilson Combat Assault Rifle for better ref

[opal basin]

it was the only thing that really fit the handguard i picked

the game doesnt have the right grip so i have to use the regular a2 grip sadly

[forest lichen]

Too long, even then the longest rifle in the game is the SR16 which is 11'5 or a 14'5 barrel

[opal basin]

i know, but it fits the handguard

it looks pretty close

[forest lichen]

What game is this btw?

Roblox Deadline

[opal basin]

yes it is

[silk junco]

14 FOOT LONG BARREL?

[forest lichen]

cool
(i hate Deadline with a passion)

[opal basin]

best gunsmith there is besides tarkslop

[forest lichen]

inches

[silk junco]

‘ means feet

[opal basin]

why do you hate deadline?

[forest lichen]

yeah that's the only thing deadline has going

[silk junco]

“ is inches

[opal basin]

gameplay is a bit too clunky but i get past it

[forest lichen]

horrible balancing
the grind

[opal basin]

oh yeah, the game was 250% better before they added money and levels

[forest lichen]

like fucking hell the game doesn't even switch your spawns when you're getting spawncamped

even then the maps are so bad that i got crossmapped by a fucking Glock as soon as I spawned

[opal basin]

i enjoy it off and on. the gameplay is a bit too clunky to play for more than 3 hours a week pretty much tho

[opal basin]

oh yeah the maps fuckin suck. they used to be so much better for some reason

they also all are way less high quality in terms of visuals

[forest lichen]

Oh yeah and no spawn protection

[opal basin]

it has spawn protection i thought

[forest lichen]

Also I heard that they're adding a feature where they will decrease your XP and Cash gain if you have more accessories

Me when the game that advertises itself in weapon customisation, penalises you for customising your weapon

[opal basin]

that is the dumbest thing ever

[forest lichen]

But yeah play Deadline for the customisation, not for the gameplay

I'm just waiting for BRM5 Gen 4 since they got some cool stuff cooking up

[opal basin]

for sure. the gameplay suffices enough to play and enjoy a bit, but without the gunsmith i wouldnt play it at all

[forest lichen]

Ong

[opal basin]

to get the sights for the arwc i used mbus gen2 rear and kac flip up front

[forest lichen]

Also the one who's doing the balancing is a competitive player

[opal basin]

competitive gaming 🤮

[forest lichen]

I heard the balancing is so bad that 5.56 recoils as much as 7.62x51mm but doesn't have the same ballistic damage

[opal basin]

recoil is shit

balancing is horrible

[forest lichen]

So much

[forest lichen]

They actually made a good change to 5.56 but they decided to revert it back to this state for some reason

People liked this change btw

[opal basin]

oh yeah the community is just idiots

i got harrassed for like an hour for saying i preffered the game before they added money and levels

[forest lichen]

Damn

[opal basin]

they have the same mentality as cod players

not allowed to have my own opinion

[forest lichen]

Also being petty but the weapon texturing is horrible

[opal basin]

where can i post my deadline arwc, does ron media work even tho its not ron?

[opal basin]

just default metal scratch texture with added trademarks or whatever markings are required

there isnt any texturing besides letters and numbers where needed

[forest lichen]

damn

[forest lichen]

try to uh post a picture of your Deadline build and a RoN pic

[opal basin]

damn

i literally uninstalled ron yesterday for metro exodus(i have a very small hard drive)

[forest lichen]

brah

grab one from the wiki

[opal basin]

oh fair

[wraith glade]

Question

is the way out west achievement bugged right now? i have done it multiple times and it still hasn't given me the thing

[opal basin]

"is it bugged" you are playing ready or not. of course its bugged.

[wraith glade]

I was asking a simple question. Didn't know if i was doing it right or not.

No need for that type of response.

[opal basin]

sorry, i was not trying to come off like that. just meant to be a joke

just making fun of the game for the amount of bugs it has

[wraith glade]

Ah, then i apologize

I'm assuming the Due process one is bugged as well then?

[opal basin]

no, it was my bad. i made a joke where it wasnt necessary.

[opal basin]

not sure, i havent really tried for achievements specifically in ron

still stuck on relapse so im just trying to s rank everything else

[wraith glade]

i've gotten all but two, just trying to get em out of the way so i can say that i have 100% the game

Got all S ranks, did iron man mode and beat it, also without losing a single officer and now it's just the two pesky achievements

[opal basin]

damn

[wraith glade]

If you'd like, i can assist in the s ranks for relapse

[opal basin]

i quit playing commander since greased palms, now i just play quick play mode

[wraith glade]

good god don't remind me about that god awful map

[opal basin]

no i dont mean s rank. i am stuck on beating the level

[wraith glade]

oh? how so?

[opal basin]

i keep getting killed by like the last guy

[wraith glade]

The ai accuracy is nutty

[opal basin]

i let off my guard near the end

[wraith glade]

so i don't blame you for dying

[opal basin]

i have a mod that makes S ranks easier. basically makes the requirements the same as a+, you can kill enemies, but still cant use unauthorized force.