👮ron-discussion

[stone bay]

i just installed a new RoN intro it's super weird but i love it

[pallid quarry]

Unironically i still run the default vests

[mint falcon]

guys ends of the earth in 47 seconds
guy just shoots the fucking sick grandma asap

[pallid quarry]

Like the default appearance of LSPD swat we got ingame

[stone bay]

they're pretty cool tbh

[pallid quarry]

Yeah the default vest looks more fitting than anything else, like you're not BORTAC or USIA... you're just...

Los Suenos Police Department

[stone bay]

the OG dawg

[ionic gale]

Yes

[pallid quarry]

and honestly I have a weird tradition of keeping things of how it is

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I run pretty basic looking stuff that isn’t too crazy even though I do have a few wacky outfits saved

[pallid quarry]

not changing my squad appearance to completely something else, the fit I have is either the default long sleeve squad with the normal LSPD gear or the 1990s appearance of LSPD

I never liked multicam, felt it didn't fit compared to jet black

Considering the fact that my equivalent of a SWAT in my country wears either black or grey uniforms

[ionic gale]

I’m honestly thinking of re-creating my local sheriff’s office swat look

[ionic gale]

what country? :o

[pallid quarry]

singapore

[ionic gale]

Ahh alr

[pallid quarry]

I hate rolled sleeves because it's a pain in the ass to roll, I have to do it as apart of uniform regulations

[ionic gale]

I’m currently trying to breach this door that clearly has a civilian although I’m hearing some noises through captions that there may be a bad boy over here

[stone bay]

yoooo i live there! I only know of the Green army camo tbh lol. i should research more

[pallid quarry]

We have the RSN No.4 camo and airforce no.4, there's also a desert camo used by the SAF in desert operations, you would see it used during counter terrorism ops with other countries

RSN's comprises of a grey, dark grey and white camo like UCP while airforce has a dark blue and blueish camo pattern

[jade apex]

It's an amazing feeling to block off entire sections of the map knowing you don't have to worry about it anymore

[stone bay]

i'm thinking of joining CT for Singapore or the Commandos tbh. i thik both are where i can excel but i need to get selected first lol. If i can volounteer for NS (i'll need PR but if i colounteer it shuld be quick) i could get a quick selection for officer

[pallid quarry]

Im split between going to the army or the police

But I'll find out when I go to polytechnic or ITE, but I heard there's a STAR unit (basically the special forces of cops) working with the army, but might recreate them in RoN, who knows

They generally have a distinct and cool appearance on their own

[stone bay]

STAR? Resident Evil ref?

[jade apex]

Sounds cool! I say go for it

[pallid quarry]

Who knows, it's standing for SPECIAL TACTICS AND RESCUE

[stone bay]

Commandos might be on a you need to get invited status. I'd need to excel as an officer to even try and talk about it. I could also join their Counter Terrorism since i'm No.1 Terrorist hater

the army is also great here since it's really beneficial and takes care of it's troops

it also benefits of US tech

[pallid quarry]

You'd be surprised of how advanced the army is for such a small size

Every male population in this country would be prepared and readied for war when it comes

[stone bay]

i'm actually not. with Jets flying through the air every day and having been to a national day parade last year. you could tell no one invading this city without a bloody fight. it's also like half the population or more are trained for combat so gl trying to breach

[stone bay]

yeah, as i said. ain't no one fighting here. every single dude and now woman is ready to get some action any day

[pallid quarry]

we aren't supposed to fend off a attack, just so that capturing this island would be a massive loss to the enemy forces...

either way I hope we don't get beaten for talking about unrelated things in RON... but I do wish to see more things about other weapons

[stone bay]

lol i'm sure we'll be fine. but talking about RoN weapons, i'd love for some long range map for sniping and CQC. i think if you could mix the both for some good action and coordination it would work well

[pallid quarry]

sniper elements would be awesome in this game, having select missions to have sniper overwatch to help you snipe enemies

and for the love of God be a kill all situation, so you can get a s rank without having to capture any suspects

I mean who's gonna bother trying to arrest terrorists if they're gonna blow you up

[stone bay]

Overwatch would be essential tbh. Having 2 overwatch and 4 on ground using OW to guide them through the rooms and potentially offering aid with sniper support is a great idea to dive into

[stone bay]

why even let them live tbh? they chose to do what they did and must die. it's the law of our nature

it's kill or be killed, there's no alternative (beanbag iyw but that's no fun)

[pallid quarry]

interrogation

[stone bay]

if it's the leader sure, no reason letting the underdogs live. you could clearly tell who is leader or not since they like to distinct from their lowers

[exotic linden]

https://youtu.be/u8MUMaMuLnE https://youtu.be/nX77Hms0yrw UE 4.7 Vs UE 5.3

80 Vs 100-120 FPS

[plucky dagger]

guys, why when im reloading shotgun i dont see shotgun cartridge in hand?

[exotic linden]

tbf the stutters did improve but still

[plucky dagger]

like is this bug on ue5 version or it should be like that?

[simple drum]

You really have to hussle with Elephant I see

[stone bay]

did they remove mirrors from the station?

[mint falcon]

what about the room where you're gearing up?

[stone bay]

checked but it's kinda blocked away behind the bench and the modify loadout thing. no way to get close to it

[mint falcon]

well optimalization in it's finest i guess

[stone bay]

no seeing my drip with NVG ig

[mint falcon]

sori
only in the menu

[stone bay]

it'd be nice if you can toggle it on or off (nvg up or down)

[mint falcon]

nvm

[stone bay]

in the loadout menu?

using quick menu, my operator looks terrifying. 4 goggled eye monster

[ionic gale]

I avenged Alejandro

I got a few arrests, but I did have to take down a few cartel members

I got an A

[stone bay]

Good lad. Fuck the narcs. Nasty people

The sheer amount of details on Alejandro’s body is terrifying

[mint falcon]

too much
as if............ described well..

if you know what i mean.

[stone bay]

The fact his balls are tied to barbed wire

And that his fingers are cut off, he has cuts everywhere. He wont ever recover

I really think the moral thing to do here is put him out of his misery

[mint falcon]

dude imagine his mental damage

[mint falcon]

you can?

[stone bay]

I never tried. If it was an option i’d def be the one to select. He’ll most probably kill himself anyways after what he went through

[cyan geyser]

Did they remove neon nightclub?

[mint falcon]

no

[cyan geyser]

I don’t see it for some reason

wait nvm

[ionic gale]

Well, I’m glad that I put 5.56 into those cartel members

I still can’t find any games for some reason

[mint falcon]

even .300 blackout
shame it's not in auto

[ionic gale]

Are any of you having this problem where they cannot join public lobbies?

[plucky dagger]

nope, only problem i have is that shotgun cartridges are not appearing in my hand on reload

[ionic gale]

Ah

I really don’t know what could be the problem for me

[plucky dagger]

you have error connection lost?

[ionic gale]

I keep getting the “can’t find a server with acceptable ping”

[sand lynx]

Does anyone know why my optics are blurry?

[ionic gale]

That’s the only error I get

[sand lynx]

I can't send a reference picture

[wispy cypress]

Is there a way to get Maldonin achievement picture? @shy tulip

[shy tulip]

I would not have that

[plucky dagger]

means u have bad wifi

[wispy cypress]

Maybe you know who got it lol

[shy tulip]

I do not

[ionic gale]

;-;

[plucky dagger]

or nobody is playing near u so every lobby u trying to connect is laggy

[ionic gale]

i live in the US 😔 maybe the US servers are shit rn

[plucky dagger]

bruh idk then

[sour fulcrum]

idk if this is a bug but i was loading valley of dolls mission and the animation on the way there (inside the van) is completly messed up

[wispy cypress]

nvm got it through steam achievement, w pic

[sour fulcrum]

i did what i said i was gonna do to miss vol and i don't think her hair should fall on the ground even though her head is still unthin her body

[ionic gale]

OK, it looks like that the mods was the problem

I got new UE 5 mods on Nexus and it looks like that that was the problem lol

[sharp dirge]

native linux support when

[silk junco]

stinky

[amber dock]

Rude.

[silk junco]

i HATE linux

[sharp dirge]

same

I just love the pain of using a rolling release distro

[amber dock]

Do you even know what that is young lady?

[silk junco]

dumb operating system for nerds......

[sharp dirge]

shush I am updating my computer

[amber dock]

Fair enough Vivien

[sharp dirge]

it took 7 whole seconds to update

try doing that with windows c:

[mental bronze]

why would u even bother porting an average unreal engine game to linux

[ionic gale]

u talking about the arch fanboys?

they are like tesla soy boys

[sharp dirge]

for the 6 whole people that use linux

[mental bronze]

then i want temple os port too

[sharp dirge]

I want an OS/2 warp 4 port

[topaz mango]

Why hasn't ADS sensitivity been added yet?

[dire sentinel]

🙏 jus did s rank neon with AI team on my second ever s rank run of it, had NO MORE CS and the main dude was in a tiny room with an LMG pointed STRAIGHT at the only door of it. Prayed as i swung it open and hit him with a beanbag before he could shoot until he surrendered

🙏 2 more to go to S rank whole game. Dealer and Port

[noble pasture]

I got both armorer and nutritionist on my team, are my swat AI immortal?

[dire sentinel]

Shoot em and youll find out

[mystic depot]

why have all of my steam achievements reset?

[hearty thistle]

weird, mine haven't

[mystic depot]

I have like 10 S tiers and steam says I have 1 (i just completed 1)

[noble pasture]

Pulled an S rank during a vanilla ironman run

S ranked spider, they stood no chance

[rain cedar]

We seriously need this game in VR, UEVR is just clunky.

[azure lily]

Sins Of The Father. You get shot every millisecond

I'm fr

[native rune]

Raskin: “Do your worst!”

Me: Right clicks to throw her on the ground, her cuffed body goes flying out of the map.

[frail quartz]

Iirc the devs said they wouldn't be supporting vr officially but they welcome players to mod it in, it'll probably be a lot easier once we get the devkit

[noble pasture]

Risk S ranking Lethal Obsession to have sanity to spare for Ides of March?

[eager holly]

OSS better

[sour fulcrum]

idk if i wanna have meth heads beating me up in vr

[crude prism]

Lethal obsession 2nd easiest S rank in the game

[sour fulcrum]

what's the easiest?

[crude prism]

gas station

[sour fulcrum]

fair

[winter orbit]

San Uriels surely?

[noble pasture]

The last fucking suspect on Ides of March ruined my perfect ironman run, dude executed a civie

[edgy anchor]

whats the worst pistol in the game

[noble pasture]

What you need?

[edgy anchor]

the worst pistol in the game

i need an all round bad gun

[noble pasture]

Anything that's 9mm

[tacit gull]

TLE 1911 or M45

[crude prism]

nah, that's got double the dudes on gas, and also a few rifles usually

[tacit gull]

Plus it's a level that has some ugly vertical sightlines compared to gas's somewhat linear design

[lunar silo]

python snubnose

[dense quest]

okay cool I died to a bug on lawmaker

my character literally just died and in the replay he just went into some sort of a T pose lol

no one shot me, just bam I was dead all of a sudden

[craggy cedar]

can anyone recommend a mod that ups the player cap for MP?

[edgy anchor]

oh my fucking god, i was correct, my teammates are just killing me

[lunar silo]

lmao

[edgy anchor]

breaking my rules abit, getting a rifle so i can kill my teammates

[dense quest]

I still can't believe this shit man

Bugs happen I don't mind it much but it did tilt me ngl lmao

[noble pasture]

So I need 2 builds for lethal and s ranks

Could use G36K's for lethals

[winter orbit]

ig, idk played so much of 23mbs that I find it easier
Despite gas being my go to for like, a year lmfao

[subtle thicket]

how does one access the DLC

nevermind im just fucking blind

[summer pivot]

how do the mods think about the most brutal things to add in this game

adding a cutted man, crying, naked with no toes is crazy

[mighty bear]

Day 53 of asking the devs to please fix the SWAT AI

Oh hey, the patch notes include some SWAT AI fixes, but ONLY for the DLC maps...

[summer pivot]

a, kid being overdosed in a house full of dealers

[dense quest]

don't be surprised if they're taken from real life stories

yep that's the world we live in 🙃

[summer pivot]

I am surprised

children killed in barrels and piles of body in a club is crazy af

[dense quest]

like the vanilla missions and how fucked up some of them are in the end are the tip of the iceberg

[summer pivot]

still a 10/10 game I would recommend it to a 10 year old because it's not violent

[dense quest]

just going on youtube and watching crime channels will expose you to even worse stories

[summer pivot]

bro the one where you go to the border is just scary to go trought the tunnels

[dense quest]

anyway I came here to say that I think lawmaker is harder than both valley of the dolls and sins of the father

[summer pivot]

from the new dlc?

[swift glade]

[dense quest]

3 different stairs that go up and down to each floor is crazy man and the mansion is genuinely one of the biggest maps

[summer pivot]

please don't share any spoilers if it is from the dlc

[wispy cypress]

is this game got even more optimized after patch 2 or some

[summer pivot]

I am at the second mission of the dlc

[wispy cypress]

Cuz im getting less stutter

[dense quest]

I mean there isn't much to spoil anyway

[swift glade]

Not for me, my fps is still 50% less

Performance is fine just big number gone 😅

[summer pivot]

there is nothing wow if you tell me there are people who are hanged in a basement with their arms cut and naked

[dense quest]

yeah well in that regard the dlc so far is pretty friendly lol

haven't played the last mission tho

[summer pivot]

except the man that was cut and naked

[swift glade]

Dlc is pretty tame in comparison

[dense quest]

yeah lore wise it seems very tame

[summer pivot]

and the dog who was having blood around him, those are the worst one's I've seen so far

[wispy cypress]

Im on 3050, its running kinda well for me. Probably because im in multiplayer with 1 person only, not full lobby. Less players more fps i guess, cuz you know.. high texture outfits etc

[swift glade]

Yeah I run max settings, used to get 160-180

Now it's 60-80

It is what it is, still runs smooth

[summer pivot]

but the container one with the pedos is just...

[wispy cypress]

160. Probably when this game was on UE4

[summer pivot]

when I did the mission I didn't knew about it and I didn't opened it but I saw some videos, I would shoot the adults straight away if you ask me

[swift glade]

When did they move over to ue5

[wispy cypress]

I had more fps too, now im getting 60-80. The big difference is on maps tbh.

[wispy cypress]

DLC1

[dense quest]

my fps is waaay worse now which is a shame cuz I used to always sing the praises of this game being pretty lightweight for how good it looks

[swift glade]

Ahh

I was under the impression ue5 was ment to have better performance the ue4...

[wispy cypress]

They said that they gonna port the game to UE5 before the update anyways.

[dense quest]

so it's running on UE5 now?

[wispy cypress]

Game is more optimized, its just the new engine, graphics. Everything besides that goes smooth.

[swift glade]

100 fps hit on a 4080 is still wild to me

[wispy cypress]

Yeah, strange how many ppl still dont know anything about this lmao

[dense quest]

yeah cuz the game looks the same to me except way lower fps XD

[wispy cypress]

1440p rtx3050, epic settings, (Small maps 80-90) (Big maps 60-70) (New maps 80+)

[lone raven]

Woah, 4080 and Queenslander gang? 🤝

[dense quest]

I have to run it on medium now, used to run on high before the update

[swift glade]

Represent 🇦🇺

[swift glade]

Exactly my point... we be gett8ng the same FPS, that don't make sense

[wispy cypress]

for some reason game is smoother on epic settings, than medium high etc

Also do not use DLSS, Use FSR

[swift glade]

I dont think the 4080 needs dlss...

[lone raven]

How'd they bork DLSS?

[wispy cypress]

Motion blur can help with mouse movement lags. Smoother game. (U wont see any stutters)

[swift glade]

Dlss should be fixed as of patch 2

[wispy cypress]

Many things gotta be fixed. DLSS, Replay, Grenades

[swift glade]

#💬general-discussion message

See I'm not crazy

[wispy cypress]

Gotta wait, ppl always want everything to be fixed in 1 day

[swift glade]

Oh I don't care when it gets fixed

I'll happily play at 60-80 fps

Was just what I noticed after the update and 100 is to many to drop going to UE5

[lone raven]

I'm 4080, 4K. I was getting 90-110 on Narcos.

I'll retest when home.

[swift glade]

Yea new maps are a bit higher

Granted I do play on 5120x1440

[wispy cypress]

If u can play on 60fps lock, thats good enough.

or even 50

[lone raven]

Nah man, gotta max out that refresh rate and still get shot on entry anyways (fast computer, slow brain).

[swift glade]

50! I'd rather shit in my hands and clap

[wispy cypress]

ok

[swift glade]

Mad jokes everyone relax

[dense quest]

I haven't updated yet but does patch 2 improve performance?

[lone raven]

Maybe.

[wispy cypress]

U can read the Patch 2 fixes

Mostly its just basic known bugs

[swift glade]

For people using dlss, yes

[dense quest]

I'm reading them and no mentions of performance so I'm assuming it'll be the same

[wispy cypress]

dlss still not working

I play without dlss or fsr anyways so idk

[lone raven]

I use DLSS as standard.

PATHTRACING WHEN???

[swift glade]

Also fellow qlder, add would love to run some games and get my shit packed in with fellow qlders

[lone raven]

Hell yeah.

[wispy cypress]

Ngl dlc2 when, alrd bored, playing random deathmatch with my friend in training room.

[carmine merlin]

are we getting any replay fixes?

[wispy cypress]

Nope

probably patch 3 or 4

[dire sentinel]

🧍‍♂️ Guys i cleared all of port hokan but it says there is still a suspect I missed....

[carmine merlin]

ok

[dire sentinel]

PRAYING he doesnt come outa some dark corner and gun down me or a teammate

[dense quest]

does the search and rescue command work when there's still suspects?

[dire sentinel]

no

[dense quest]

hm yeah idk then you gotta find the suspect manually I guess

order your team to enter and clear each section cuz they check all possible corners that you might've missed

[dire sentinel]

😊 Found him (i got gunned down)

[swift glade]

RIP

[dense quest]

🪦

[dire sentinel]

I spent

[wispy cypress]

You wasn't ready enough

[dire sentinel]

AN HOUR on that map

[dense quest]

lawmaker took me longer to clear ngl

[wispy cypress]

Now try taser only achievement on port.

[dire sentinel]

Lawmaker ez

[dire sentinel]

Already did

[obsidian stratus]

Is it me or did swat AI became more jank

[dire sentinel]

Always has been

[wispy cypress]

yep

[dense quest]

guess I'm one of few who found it harder than a lot of other maps (even tho it wasn't that hard with my wife as a 2 man team, but for some reason it's so difficult with swat ai)

[obsidian stratus]

I swear it wasn’t like this before

[dense quest]

yeah I think that might be why I struggled with lawmaker

[dire sentinel]

Honestly u living the dream lol, wife as teammate

[dense quest]

I've always felt like swat ai was as cracked as the suspect ai but now it feels like they're weaker

[dense quest]

she never plays shooters but lucky for me she loved ready or not

[dire sentinel]

Swat AI got the IQ of the streamer, aim of like a mid diff suspect like the russians on port (unless u use the kill me command), and the health of either a civ or 5 left behind suspects combined (there is no in between).

[sour fulcrum]

i have a question there was a bug in which the suspects took shots and they were taken as dead when in fact they were alive so they would just get up. is that really a bug or a feature?

[dire sentinel]

dub

[torpid roost]

Playing with your SO is so darn nice!! I absolutely loved playing with my boyfriend, but then his installation got fucked up and now it wont ever finish updating for some reason.

[dense quest]

this happens to me with suspects that got c2'd, but never with normal shots

[dense quest]

yeah it's nice and I definitely hope you find a way to fix that somehow

[sour fulcrum]

well it has just happened to me with shots

[dense quest]

I wonder if it's counting the suspect as dead in points

[sour fulcrum]

i love the game but i feel like updates don't fix anything cause there are bugs i found back in 2022 that are still in the game without even being fixed

[torpid roost]

Thanks, it's been hell to troubleshoot but we'll figure it out eventually

[sour fulcrum]

and the more i play it the more bugs i find. sure we got the DLC and some fixes but the global gameplay still feels the same

[turbid pawn]

Do AI use tasers and pepper spray?

[sour fulcrum]

yes if you ask them

point at the target then deploy then choose

[turbid pawn]

okayy

[obsidian stratus]

Unless you hotkey it tho it’s not worth it tbh

I’d rather be the one in control of those tools and idk if I trust the accuracy if they do it

[fierce dirge]

lol my gf doesn't like shooters

[frank nimbus]

Hi

[flint shell]

is it just me or does sinious trail feel like a FBI thing

dont think SWAT would do a raid like that

[ionic gale]

Local swat would assist, but if you’re talking about them leading the entire investigation, most likely not

[lone raven]

Nah, just send in 5 guys!

[obsidian stratus]

A lot of stuff like that is in joint with the local PD anyways

[amber dock]

VOID chose to include maps that wouldn’t necessarily be realistic for a five man SWAT team or even SWAT at all. It’s not a bad thing most of the time, as it’s done for the sake of gameplay

[lone raven]

I don't want gameplay. I want 5 hour surround and negotiates where nothing happens.

[amber dock]

Exactly

I want to spend hours filing paperwork after a mission

[near viper]

anyone have any tips for the stupid dorms 5 min achievement

[lone raven]

My use of force paperwork would be two books big.

[lone raven]

Go fast then faster still.

[near viper]

I cant get it under 5:30 no matter what

[flint shell]

we all just wanna mag dump people in the end we all know it

[lone raven]

Split team levels?

[near viper]

with AI its impossible theyre so clunky

[obsidian stratus]

Very debatable

[lone raven]

If they wear body armour, you know where we're mag dumpin'. 😊

[obsidian stratus]

For some of the missions mainly where The Hand is involved yea I’m going Delta Force on those guys

[flint shell]

their balllsssss

[lone raven]

10 to the pelvis, dropped like Elvis.

[torpid roost]

Idk what you're on about, I bought Ready or Not so I could play Tacti-cool Barbie Dressup, its my favorite part of the game

[flint shell]

there is so many weeb mods on ready or not\

[torpid roost]

Really?

[flint shell]

no game is safe

[obsidian stratus]

Most aren’t functional now I believe

[torpid roost]

Like...left 4 dead 2 bad?.... I still shiver every time i open the workshop

[obsidian stratus]

God bless Chinese modding community

[flint shell]

not that bad hell no

[obsidian stratus]

Really hoping they update the Blahaj Ram mod soon

[lone raven]

🤝

[torpid roost]

Oh thank god, thats all that matters

[lone raven]

To be honest, I just shoot the head if they're an armed active offender. Never got an S.

Nonlethal is ick.

[obsidian stratus]

I run No Mercy for Terrorists - Justified Kills because fuck The Hand

[amber dock]

Beanbag is satisfying

[flint shell]

"Girls' Frontline 2 Exilium T-Dolls Replace All Swat VO"

[obsidian stratus]

Everyone else gets a chance to live

[flint shell]

lord save us all

[obsidian stratus]

Best Non Lethal tool I really hope they add more eventually

Rubber 40mm Launcher when

[amber dock]

They have/had a super shorty beanbag shotgun fully modeled and animated in the game files that never got added. Would be a cool long tactical.

[lone raven]

That's for DLC 5. Ready or Not: Iraq Invasion.

[obsidian stratus]

I think the NL Shotgun we have now makes more sense to have

I feel like a shorter barrel would really hurt the effectiveness of the shell

[long cipher]

what is the map agency?

[amber dock]

Brixley talent time

Also known as The Spider

[dense quest]

unironically they should add female officers

[amber dock]

That was planned but hasn’t been added.

[dense quest]

like a scrapped idea or just delayed?

[amber dock]

Don’t know. They seemed rather sure of adding it from what I’ve seen.

But they haven’t talked about it for a while

[flint shell]

100%

i remember some old thread some kids were screaming calling them sexist for not adding a female police officer lmao

[amber dock]

Female officers would definitely trigger a certain group of people. I’m all for it.

[obsidian stratus]

What kind of guns do you guys run for your squad? Like what category and how many?

[flint shell]

yeah it would but its best for realism

[amber dock]

Yeah, I’m for it.

[obsidian stratus]

I normally change however the mission suits it but normally I run 1 AR, 2 SMGs, and 2 Non Lethals

[flint shell]

depends on how im feeling. to be real i use any gun and it wont really matter besides if your using non lethal/submachine gun/shotgun. but i generally use the mp7/9 or the mcx

[lone raven]

All AR baby.

[frail quartz]

Based 🤝

[dense quest]

yep all AR and blackout unless I'm feeling an LTL mission

[amber dock]

Does armor affect the speed of the AI?

[flint shell]

im pretty sure it does but i just run heavy armor because i dont wanna die

[frail quartz]

Besides recoil I feel like there's practically no benefit SMGs have over the ars

[obsidian stratus]

Running light vest feels like a handicap

[lone raven]

Anyone tried a no armour run?

[flint shell]

worst idea ever

[frail quartz]

they have poorer stopping power AND armor penetration

[stable kernel]

Swat ai matches the players speed , even if it’s ungodly fast

[lone raven]

Sonic speed.

[flint shell]

SONIC SPEED!!! continues to get mag dumped by a guy in the corner

[dense quest]

as I said earlier the only benefit SMGs have to me is if you want more incapacitated suspects instead of dead ones

[obsidian stratus]

Sure but this is assuming Youre shooting to kill rather than to incapacitate

[lone raven]

Absorb the bullets and spit them back out at the suspect?

[frail quartz]

I think you're arguably less likely to kill with an AR than with an SMG because needing less shots to down a suspect makes you less prone to rapid-firing and accidentally firing off more rounds than you need to down them

Not to mention that suspects wearing bodyarmor forces you to aim for their limbs and potentially rupture an artery

[flint shell]

whats your alls fit on ai's? i generally give some of them a button up shirt and retextured jeans and then some with a full on tactical outfit (i follow the logic that most swat officers dont have time to dress up in full gear)

[ionic gale]

I use SMG’s because they’re fun

[frail quartz]

Indeed

[ionic gale]

I have a combination of the new DLC gear

I run it in OD green because why not?

[obsidian stratus]

It varies, Alpha is generally in full uniform and gear while Bravo looks like On-call/Quick Response officers with only a slick and bump helmet

[lone raven]

I just keep them the same as they always have been in terms of gear.

[ionic gale]

Also, of course, a holster other stuff

[frail quartz]

I have my red element wear camo and my blue element wear black

[flint shell]

to be real does it really matter what gun you use? besides it just being a shotgun/submachine gun/rifle/pistol/non lethal they dont rlly have much damage variation in my perspective

[obsidian stratus]

Recoil and mag capacity

[fair mountain]

Progress in commander was lost. Need to restart over again?

[obsidian stratus]

More Notably just the MP7 and P90

[ionic gale]

Of course, people like to larp around and stuff

[flint shell]

recoil isnt a huge problem nor is ammo esp if ur one of the infinite slots users

[obsidian stratus]

MP5 adds aura

[frail quartz]

The amount of shots it takes to down suspects varys between the calibers, yes

[sharp dirge]

P90 best smg

I enjoy unloading a whole P90 magazine on a suspects head

[ionic gale]

I ran through the Narcos mission with a classic MK18 and a M11

[dense quest]

literally same lmao

[flint shell]

it dont matter in the end just use whatever guns/mods/gear you find the coolest

[frail quartz]

Based

[ionic gale]

Really want a mod one mark 18

[dense quest]

it's like red team is ex military and blue team is just professional swat

[ionic gale]

Mod zero looks all right in the game, but the triangle post site still kind of bugs me, I know that uh we have a bunch of free, floating hand, guard options already but still

[flint shell]

not sure if its just me but the woman in the apartment on 23 megabytes a second when she gets used as a bodyshield do i always miss and hit her instead 💀

[obsidian stratus]

Nah that gas block is useful for when you’re engaging really close

[frail quartz]

Oh my god, that's exactly the vibe I go for as well

[ionic gale]

You’re not wrong lol

[dense quest]

based

[frail quartz]

As much as I love mlok rails, it'd be nice to have some more modern cheesegrater ARs as well

[dense quest]

we also share the watermelon support if you know what I mean

[ionic gale]

I’m planning on getting a MK18 Mod 1… granted it’s not real it’s gonna be airsoft

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I’m getting the free floating RIS version

[flint shell]

why not a real gun?

[amber dock]

Everyone knows keymod is the best

[frail quartz]

Airsoft refs generally aren't a big fan of them

[ionic gale]

Because I can’t legally own one right now, and it will be too expensive

[obsidian stratus]

I plan on building an AR like the SR16

[ionic gale]

U BIt Ur TOUnge

[flint shell]

i wonder why

[frail quartz]

I don't plan on ever owning a rifle, but if I did I would probably get a MCX or something

[ionic gale]

I don’t hate keymod

The only gun that I think key mod looks good on is the MCX

[flint shell]

im a country guy so thats prob why i love my guns i sleep with one next to me

[ionic gale]

I mean, I know it’s not as secure as traditional MLO@

[flint shell]

we should all own a m134 minigun for home defense

[frail quartz]

I think my RPG serves me well enough

[ionic gale]

Yeah, because everyone in the southern United States and their grandmothers own a Mossberg as a emotional support item

I’m planning on getting a two-tone black and tan airsoft rifle

MK18 Mod 1 as I said b4, RIS rails

[flint shell]

yep i got 23 guns in my house alone

my dad was on the atf watchlist for a bit

[ionic gale]

I live in a state where that shit is pretty frowned upon… I don’t need to say anything else

[flint shell]

they tryna take our gun rights away

[ionic gale]

I may not be able to buy a real gun right now, but 6mm plastic would be enough

I already have a Glock airsoft pistol, but I’m wanting a big boy rifle

[frail quartz]

Oh no, are they trying to ban guns from voting?

[amber dock]

Are you going airsofting? Or just collecting?

[flint shell]

yes they are also outlawin em stop the racism!\

[ionic gale]

For for now, it’s collecting but any fields or anything like that that’s later in the future

[flint shell]

you could join one of those airsoft clubs

idk any bc i live FARR from that stuff nor do i like airsoft

most that i know have a age requirement

[ionic gale]

I have a link of the Pacific rifle I want

[flint shell]

how much is it

[ionic gale]

230 usd

I’m not looking for a super expensive rifle. I’m just going for something that’s under $300

[flint shell]

better than down here theres a store down here they sell em like at 300-900

shits expensive nowadays

[turbid pawn]

does anyone have a technique to successfully map hokan port (the last) in rank S because I think I will soon throw the pc out the window

[flint shell]

have fun with that nightmare

[ionic gale]

I’m getting the stuff at Evike

That’s where I got my pistol from in a irl location, but I don’t think I’ll be able to go to the physical location right now

[turbid pawn]

thanks 🙂

[ionic gale]

I would have to order it online

[flint shell]

https://youtu.be/A3-9xyaf0Y4?si=VeocP3_g1v1jQsLN

[turbid pawn]

thanks bro

[acoustic ridge]

i just got an a+ on rust belt and my officers went from content to stressed, fun

[stable kernel]

Rank has no direct impact on officer stress, just how many suspects and civs and officers are fully alive at the end of the mission

[median coyote]

Ye, if you have all dead the suspects then more likeley anxious, but if you have most or ig 5 of them alive then mostly content.

Also even 1 civilian can make them stressed.

[edgy anchor]

all my officers are frequently very stressed

[indigo gazelle]

man

I hate the hospital map

[weak mist]

Am I tweaking or did they make the Meldonin achivement 10x easier?

[ionic gale]

I don’t think the word “battle rifle” is an official cast in stone term official militaries use

I mean, we all know the the battle rifle, but I don’t think it’s really used as an official term

[frail pier]

always has been

[astral beacon]

what to do when infinite loading screened from main menu

[fervent creek]

https://gyazo.com/67e266fcbfdb48dcf813df160d59f356 when are we going to see the surgical mask?

[dense quest]

ok yeah patch 2 deeefinitely improves performance

at least for me

[weak mist]

Lowkey decreased mine

[dense quest]

also while testing on lawmaker my ai swat team executed the rich bastard while breaching a room on their own

can't say I'm sad about that 💀

we got F for fantastic

[frail quartz]

tbh it'd be hard for me to hold back the intrusive thoughts too

[dense quest]

it's ok I turned their bodycams off we'll just pretend the criminals shot him

on a serious note tho the ai swat used to be more precise with their shooting but they seem to kill civilians more now

[jade apex]

Ah, the AI swat...

[median coyote]

Yeah bro, they even cannot kill someone at long range

its how bad the ai is now

[fleet ermine]

the traps on sins of the father are not lethal, right?

[median coyote]

no

just flashbangs

[fleet ermine]

cool thanks

[spring knoll]

does sins of the father not have an OST?

it's not in the soundtrack release

[shy tulip]

I think that one is mainly ambience now if I am remember correctly

[stable kernel]

Yeah it definitely has the in game music as the main part

I believe it's diegetic as well

[sly nest]

I swear to god
so... before, stable fps but lower
now, i get even 70fps before it drops to 2 randomly, i tried all possible setting changes

But the random *freezes" are way worse than the stable clunkiness

[viral spire]

Sooooooo, are you meant to only use tear gas if someone takes a hostage?

[lone pelican]

"quick play" were people salty about it being called "practice" lmao

[tribal escarp]

yo how are the AI overhauls in home invasion?

[prime wing]

no really

they just didnt understand what it was

never bother to try the mode

the studio looks like it had to change it in order for most players to understand what it was

it is really a small thing, but its so easy to just try the mode to understand that it is practice and there is no commander mode/perks or stress system for the officers

most players didnt know there was a quickplay option apparently

[lone pelican]

Fools

Every day I’m reminded that 100 is only the average iq

[amber dock]

I thought that most people ran practice tbh

with all the complaints I see about the commander mode and how it's tedious

[lone pelican]

Same. Commander kinda ass

Swat after shooting a terrorist with a bomb vest

[obsidian stratus]

What makes it not fully ass in your opinion

[lone pelican]

Making you play levels in order

[amber dock]

Also cool concept, just not the best execution

[lone pelican]

Real. Commander was super hyped up it just fell flat

[prime wing]

biggest surprise of this update

people liking cm

[stone bay]

PTSD for life

[lone pelican]

Swat going into crisis after I kill a guy holding a gun to someone’s head

[stone bay]

they couldnt believe how inhumane killing a hostage taker was

[lone pelican]

Swat walking through a school full of dead kids: 😃 Swat when I kill a school shooter:

[sly nest]

It is pain that the only reliable way to play is either practice or MP... which with the AI or connection issues are still very much not that great

[lone pelican]

Multiplayer for this game can be super fun, single player is hella mid. I got hermit so thank fuck I don’t have to play commander again.

[sly nest]

Oh i cant say that word... Club is a perfect example of that
A pile of civvies on the dance floor but you shoot a guy with a bomb vest before he pulls the pin and you are the bad guy

[obsidian stratus]

No humane person wants to kill anyone

[stone bay]

uhh I have a problem idk if anyone has gotten this or its already been talked about but when I do missions. and actually finish them, it still says unresolved? but lets me go to the next mission? anybody know anything about that?

[obsidian stratus]

It’s easy to say you won’t regret shooting a hostage taker without actually being in the situation

[prime wing]

you completed the mission, but failed an objective

[obsidian stratus]

I had that same issue so the solution is to S rank it

[smoky vessel]

Hey uh guys am I suppose to do the home invasion missions to complete ironman?

Because i just completed port hokan and got the watch but not the achievments

[lone raven]

Buzzer noise. Incorrect answer.

SWAT select for people with rescuer traits for a reason.

[obsidian stratus]

That doesn’t mean it’s unnecessary

[lone raven]

I wouldn't want someone to hesitate in that situation.

[stone bay]

eh debatable. so you'd say it's inhuman to kill a mass murderer or a cell of terrorists who killed a couple hundred people?

[mental gorge]

No. It would be against ToS @thorn moss

[obsidian stratus]

Don’t put words in my mouth lol

I’m saying anyone should be somewhat distressed over taking another life even if that one took others

“Stop the killing. Stop the dying”
By any means necessary but without contributing more to the problem

[stone bay]

i agree somewhat on killing another of one's being is bad. But the big play is morality i guess

[lone raven]

What if you're not?

[obsidian stratus]

The military is always taking people in

[stone bay]

if we stopped the killing, would they? There's 2 different parties at play

[ionic gale]

Hey guys?

[obsidian stratus]

Hence by any means necessary

It’s not always an avoidable but it shouldn’t be the absolute first option

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing I walked in during the wrong time

[lone raven]

Sometimes it should?

[obsidian stratus]

Some cases it is justified like someone with a gun to a hostage head

[lone raven]

Yeah, so in all those cases it would be the right thing to do.

[obsidian stratus]

No one is gonna have the accuracy of Chris Kyle and try and take an incapacitating shot

[stone bay]

violence has never been a first solution IF no one pulled a gun and threatened your life. most of the times we deal with Tazers or gas flush outs

[ionic gale]

Yeah, if a suspect, does that in the game, I am definitely just putting a round in them

Of course I could use gas or something like that but usually I’m not gonna sit and see if he’ll release the hostage or not

I have lost a few gud runs with some dipshite taking somebody hostage and blowing their brains out

Earlier today, when I was playing the gas station mission, a suspect tried to take a person hostage, and when he actually released him…

[obsidian stratus]

I won’t say it’s a case by case thing but there are circumstances that lay out your options

[lone raven]

I remember an interview with the sniper at the Lindt cafe siege in Sydney, he regretted not taking the shot.

[ionic gale]

I gave a little gift by not shooting the dude straight in the face and just arresting him

I hate/love it when the suspects & civilians can taunt you more often in this new update

[lone raven]

A humane SWAT team:

[ionic gale]

Look, I understand that you don’t like being zip tied, but this is how I have food the table and keep the lights on

[lone raven]

https://tenor.com/view/software-exact-software-exact-doodle-net-catch-gif-16959372

[ionic gale]

If I hear these dudes, call me pigs one more time. I’m say very mean words at them.

[stone bay]

at least his face isnt bologne sauce

[ionic gale]

Yis

[lone raven]

That happens after he zip ties them.

[jade apex]

It's so difficult to find the ambience on youtube

[stone bay]

club music goes hard

[ionic gale]

Also, also, I’ve been appreciating more minimalist stuff in the game

I haven’t completed lawmaker yet, but me and my AI mates are currently just running MK18s with a M11

[stone bay]

nice

[ionic gale]

Also I like running OD green stuff so there’s that too

[stone bay]

m11 is da goat

[ionic gale]

Yee

It’s a small, but pretty nice side arm, it has saved my ass a few times, I of course, run the more exotic stuff, but other than that, I kind of like Larping as a basics swat team

[stone bay]

JHP is such a nasty munition

i wish we could see an entrance and exit wound since the bullet's ballistic appears on the wall

[ionic gale]

Should I run Jacked hollow points on my sidearm?

I’m guessing I could just switch to my pistol so I know if I want to quickly incapacitate a unarmored suspect

[stone bay]

could do. i just run diff ammo types depending on the map. for Neo tomb i always run JHP since i'm always 1 step ahead and can aim for the ehad

my sidearm is always AP

[lone raven]

No mods do that yet? Surprising.

[stone bay]

the closest to realism is Visceral blood but it doesn offer yet exist wounds. idk if it's an innate bug or still feeaturless

[lone raven]

Damn.

[stone bay]

i'm like a detail guru. i wan to see everything lol

[latent lion]

Port S rank let's go

[indigo gazelle]

If I like peek a door then drop a tear gas on my side of the door, does it still affect the other side?

[fleet ermine]

did they patch hidden and dangerous? I just s ranked lawmaker but it didn't pop

[cyan geyser]

do the hostage takers ever shoot at the player? It feels like the suspects hold the civilians hostage and give you at least 5 seconds to line up your shot and headshot them.

[sly nest]

I got lit up by them a fair bunch, but their aim sucks

[latent lion]

They always shoot at me when they're holding someone up

[cyan geyser]

that’s weird. maybe I’ve just been killing them too fast

I’ve accidentally hit civilians out in the open but never when they’re held hostage

[latent lion]

I had a terrorist hold up one of the nurses, instead of shooting her, he dropped her and shot himself instead

[lone raven]

That's a good thing.

[sly nest]

It is even worse than getting hit tbh because now good luck shooting the taker when you got supressed

[cyan geyser]

I remember shooting a hostage taker across the room in the garage of the car dealership. I swung the door open and saw the dude holding someone hostage. I did the FATTEST lean and shot through the forklift, killing the suspect.

[lost rover]

Hey guys quick question, do enemy suspects sometimes use an spc 9?

[lone raven]

[cyan geyser]

they should give the suspects grenade launchers and rpgs

[noble pasture]

The Russian swat would have killed the civie too

[swift glade]

Not GTA mate 😅

[latent lion]

Hell nah 💀 , that's the military's job to deal with

[swift glade]

100% Swat sure as shit ain't going to those jobs

That's tier 2 kinda work

[latent lion]

Imagine swinging a door and the entire squad gets wiped out from one grenade launcher

[swift glade]

Hahaha fucking 13 hours in Benghazi

[latent lion]

fr

[cyan geyser]

yeah it is

give the suspects a railgun

Also maybe give the swat team an invisibility device

that’d be pretty cool!

[lone raven]

I thought there was no military scene takeover laws in the US?

[shy summit]

Hey yall, I'm a twitch streamer and I was wondering if yall had any ideas for fun challenges for RoN! or ways to make the game funnier. I typically play alone but wanted to hear what yall had to share -w-

Damn that's a lot! I could maybe do that though -w-

right now I'm thinking about doing a first responder run

[swift glade]

I mean there's an achievement for that for narcos map

[shy summit]

oo

[swift glade]

Beat cop is the achievement name IIRC

[shy summit]

i see >:3c

[swift glade]

Can always try thr hanged man achievement too on stream

Always a good one going against ARs with a tazer and flash bangs

[shy summit]

[lone raven]

Yeah, thought so. Thanks for the clarification.

[noble pasture]

Hmm, I keep killing suspects, any way to subdue them easier?

[modern walrus]

pepper spray, tasers, non lethal weapon

[noble pasture]

On an ironman run

I was thinking of giving my bots jhp 300 blk. I run less lethal and throw gas

[royal nimbus]

if you give the SWAT AI lethal rounds they'll just smoke everyone no questions asked
you should be the one running lethals so you can kill people as needed

[cyan geyser]

Run 200 flashbangs and bang every single corner and crevice

[noble pasture]

I only need as many suspects alive as it takes to not tank stress for the offices

[royal nimbus]

that is a really vague and imprecise strategy

what stops you from just running gas station or streamer for easy stress reduction

[noble pasture]

It's tedious

Also it takes a long time for me to change equipment of everyone cause I don't trust the loadout system

[modern walrus]

what's the difference between NVGS and GPNVGS?

[stone bay]

one is dual and one is quad. just different asthetics. you could say one is police and one is military

[noble pasture]

Skin

[lone raven]

Police don`t have GPNVGs in your country?

[noble pasture]

those things cost a lot

[lone raven]

Yeah, so do tac teams. 😄

[stone bay]

standard police probably not. considering Singapore is one of the wealthiest islands it might have that included with spec forces and army

[swift glade]

Not everyone is as tacticool as AU sert

[lone raven]

QLD gang wins again, I guess? 😉

[lone raven]

Oh no, wouldn`t expect an average cop to be walking around with them.

[swift glade]

[lone raven]

They`d get robbed. 😄

[stone bay]

if you say police i expect normal police, you should precise if you mean standard or special lol

[swift glade]

I mean police or Swat is still police

Don't need to get pedantic

[stone bay]

yeah i know i'm just a specific person lol

[lone raven]

I'd definitely like to see a welfare check with GPNVGs though.

[atomic oak]

has the unreal engine transition finished? on the gunfighter mod page it says so but i thought it was still WIP

[edgy anchor]

yes we now have 5 unreal engines (1 more then last year)

[swift glade]

Came with the dlc update

[noble pasture]

Vanilla RoN is badly balanced

Suspects won't surrender and officers get stressed for killing 4 gangsters

Like, why get stress if the suspect gave you no choice?

It's either you put him in the dirt or he does it to you

[lone raven]

Exactly.

Don't worry, be happy.

[noble pasture]

Roger entry team

[cloud fox]

anyone know how to get the cosmetics back?

i uninstalled and reinstalled and the cosmetics i got for S-ranking the missions are now locked again

[stone bay]

AI seems more fucked up in that map than anywhere

[dense quest]

10-4

[noble pasture]

Oh my fucking god, okay, swat AI is gonna get me go crazy

[indigo solar]

i love it when this game bullies me 😂

[noble pasture]

The suspects pinned me on the entrance to the dinner room, and one of them executed a civie cause he was bored

[stone bay]

bro said shut up and really made him shut up hard

[copper cypress]

What conditions exist so that the unauthorized use of force does not result in any scoring penalty?

[bitter mason]

me when the second detective thats meant to be on dealer actually has voice lines in the game files. But he just, doesnt spawn

[silent flare]

Which maps have door traps

[bitter mason]

Lethal Obsession
Ides of March
Sins of the Father

[noble pasture]

Does a bullet to the head of a suspect does their full HP as damage?

[silent flare]

thanks vro 👍

[fossil crane]

why does my mods not working ?

[bitter mason]

out of date

[fossil crane]

i downloaded it from mod.io

[simple drum]

Do the door traps do anything? I've heard them explode but they don't seem to cause any damage

[bitter mason]

Getting mods from nexus mods is more reliable I'd say

[bitter mason]

Theres two types, grenade traps and flash traps
Grenade traps will insta kill you and your element if you're close enough
Flashbang traps will flashbang you, I dont think they blind you if you have flash goggles tho but will still concuss

[bitter mason]

dont bother with mod.io but if you do make sure whatever mod you get was uploaded or updated after the 23rd of July. Otherwise they're out of date and wont work
I'd reccomend going on nexus mods instead and manually downloading mods. More reliable than Mod.io

[fossil crane]

okay, thanks

[simple drum]

Ah got ya. Thanks!

[rare estuary]

No blasting restrained civilians

[rare estuary]

Sins doesn't

[bitter mason]

might've just been a mod but im pretty sure theres a chance for flashbang doortraps on sins
not super common tho

[rare estuary]

Never happened to me

[bitter mason]

I had seen them a few times when 1.0 first dropped

again could have been an ai mod but im not sure

[indigo solar]

yeah Sins has only flashbang ones but in low amounts

[simple drum]

No there definitely is flashbang traps. I was going quickly on and heard flashbangs upon opening door but I thought it was AI bug tossing it too early

[bitter mason]

yeah thought so

[indigo solar]

i legit did that mission not long ago and came across a flash trap xd

[bitter mason]

theres also an unused alarm tripwire, dont know if it was removed from the files post 1.0 but some mods restored it in early access. Didnt have any model, just the wire. Would alert suspects when tripped

[noble pasture]

Game keeps freezing on spider

[simple drum]

Oh that's cool! I hope they bring that back

[indigo gazelle]

If I like peek a door then drop a tear gas on my side of the door, does it still affect the other side?

[wispy cypress]

last suspect just ended me after 20mins of dorms gameplay

[indigo solar]

i had that happen but was a civy instead and was doing ironman mode

[ionic gale]

I think you can actually just kill/incapacitate the civilian that harms you, of course it doesn’t matter if you’re doing an S rank, but still

[indigo solar]

they punched me once and i died instantly cant kill them when im dead 😂

[ionic gale]

[indigo solar]

atleast i got the Achievement'' of dying by a civy

[wispy cypress]

narcos lightning is pure cancer

[dire sentinel]

Don’t think so, was trying it during my S rank run

What i like to do is peek a little and

a. shoot the suspect with a beanbag after i make sure he’s not facing me with the mirror if he’s in the line of sight and can see me in the now open crack of the door

b. Edge very close to the door and bump it slowly so it cracks a bit more open but not fully before dropping a cs gas close enough to the suspect in the room. The second you hear him cough (make sure u don’t mistake his coughing for a civ) open the door and shoot him in his animation cuz he will run away and fire back.

[turbid pawn]

please help me, I have finally finished hide and seek in rank s (it was a horror to play) but I can't find the hiding evidence I think I'm going to jump out of the window, are there any techniques to find them ?

[dire sentinel]

The soft objectives? like the containers? or u mean like weapons n stuff?

[turbid pawn]

weapon on the ennemy

[dire sentinel]

search and secure should do it?

u can always try n do it manually and go through the ENTIRE map. A tip i would have for ya is to go into settings, accessibility, and turn on glowing evidence/weapons. Should help u see em in the dark + through walls kinda

if search and secure is not working maybe try changing rooms and doing it again

or going into an open area

[turbid pawn]

i did that but i cant find it

[turbid pawn]

okay i try

[dire sentinel]

with the glowy setting?

[turbid pawn]

yes

[dire sentinel]

im like

99% sure ur missing a soft objective or sumin

[vital wing]

Hi, is there any method to easily do the hermit achievment?

like, is there option to close the game when i lose officer?

[dire sentinel]

Make sure u reported the auction room, drugs container, the container with the women, and the firearm container

[wispy cypress]

I remember saying "Narcos is my favorite map"...
Now it's the least favorite.

Small gaps that human eye can't see, AI suspects going crazy.

[dire sentinel]

Ik that worked when I was in normal commander mode. But that was i think just barely after 1.0 + not in ironman mode so 💀 dunno if it still works

[turbid pawn]

dude you saw it right I'm stupid I just looked at the tablet and there was an objective that had just been added and I just had to close the doors of the container

[dire sentinel]

Narcos is so imcredibly hard but also so incredibly well made.

[bitter mason]

Its certainly a cool map but the biggest thing holding it down is the games crappy suspect ai
but that could be said with most maps in the game

[dire sentinel]

LFMAO bro i had a similar issue lol. Did closing them finally net u that S rank?

[indigo solar]

if you alt f4 fast enough u can keep playing from before u started the mission

[wispy cypress]

I hate these small gaps, im fine with many corners tho. Did commander, unlocked narcos now im stuck at it again, even tho i have S tier on it. Died from nowhere, quited the game.

[turbid pawn]

look #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[bitter mason]

Lawmaker im really not sure on, its pretty big for how few suspects there are. But with how eager they are to execute civvies it gets a bit annoying. Also doors upon doors that are always open because of roaming suspects

[dire sentinel]

alt F4 never worked for me in any game 💀 does closing the game work too?

[indigo solar]

yeah if ur fast enough

[dire sentinel]

DUB

welcome to the boat

[turbid pawn]

thanks for the help bro🙏

[wispy cypress]

newbies

[turbid pawn]

XD

[wispy cypress]

easier for em rn, its not 1.0 ai anymore

[dire sentinel]

Yeaaaaaa thats RoN suspect for ya

[wispy cypress]

Narcos suspects got bigger budget than LSPD, our equipment sucks.

[dire sentinel]

if its REALLY hard for u like genuinely impossible you can always download an AI mod that fixes that, that way ur not technically cheezing the game

[wispy cypress]

They are going with extended mags, ultimate armor bruh

[wispy cypress]

Its not hard, its annoying.

[dire sentinel]

No fr 💀 my biggest pet peeve is the fact that they just slightly remodeled the elephant suspects and called it a day 🚶‍♂️ sometimes i love RoNs attentions to detail, sometimes i hate their lazyness. Just throws me off

[wispy cypress]

true

[bitter mason]

I wouldnt mind their tricked out weapons as much if they were just a bit less skilled with them
suspects I think could really use defined skill levels
Low skill suspects significantly less accurate but spray firing from the hip, slow reloads ETC maybe if suspect weapon jamming gets added they are more prone to jams and take longer to clear it or straight up ditch their gun
and higher skill suspects fire less frequently but more accurately and so on

[dire sentinel]

u can always try gassing the whole map

[wispy cypress]

I mean its commander mode, just go and shoot

Not worried about lawmaker, probably the easiest mission in this dlc

[dire sentinel]

I agree with all this.

[wispy cypress]

How long u gotta wait for headquarters conversations?

[bitter mason]

idk if they show up in the commander HQ if its still the old HQ

[dire sentinel]

I actually like the idea of there being firing holes the suspects can full auto filet you and your whole team. I just dont like that the suspect can do it from 50+ feet away from the hole, see you perfectly, and aim at you perfectly. I would just fix it by having the suspect walk up to the hole and stick his gun into it and fire. That way it gives us 1 more thing to check gameplay wise and be able to solve it be firing into the hole before the suspect gets his firearm through it.

[dire sentinel]

Lawmaker rlly easy until u tryna s rank and your whole team got beanbags and the suspect takes an AI hostage

[wispy cypress]

s tier was ez too

[bitter mason]

I just want, more variety in suspect behaviours
having them always resort to shooting at you gets really dull and annoying

[dire sentinel]

Dont get me wrong, it was. Got it on second run. I just hate being in that situation

[bitter mason]

it just reinforces this military shooter way of playing where all suspects are kill on sight

[dire sentinel]

Boy do i got a mod for you

[bitter mason]

if u say no crack I alreayd have it and it still makes them shoot you all the time, they're just less accurate

[livid sluice]

The one thing i liked was on dorms, I was either shoved or punched by a suspect who then tried to run away, which was kinda cool

[bitter mason]

its nice to see suspects run, but they usually only do that after doing something hostile

and the fact they almost always just wander around is kinda annoying, if they're alerted I want them to hide in a corner or something watching the doors. Not randomly walking around directly infront of the thing
they seem to do that a lot

[sharp dirge]

shoot the suspects before they can run

if they have a gun they are endangering me and deserve to be shot

[bitter mason]

My problem is how often you have to resort to just shooting suspects

[sharp dirge]

that's the best part of the game

[bitter mason]

I want them to run and find a place to hide
I want stricter ROE for some levels

[livid sluice]

I think civics should also react in situations, like on active shooter maps civies should be hiding under desks and shit

[silk junco]

honda civics???

[livid sluice]

And on maps where the criminal activity isn’t known right then, like 23MB, then sure have em wandering

[woven otter]

void when can we arrest civiv owners?!?!

[silk junco]

real

[sharp dirge]

shoot the civs so the suspects cant kill them

[livid sluice]

We’re swat not the ATF

[sharp dirge]

if it moves, shoot it

[livid sluice]

Also they gotta understand how certain suspects should act, the cult of women who have been engineered to hate men should be a lot more aggressive against swat then a couple of methed out kids who robbed a gas station

[woven otter]

sure, but when I get that slr47 in my hands i'm basically part of the spetsnaz

[sharp dirge]

are people on meth meant to be calm and cooperate with swat?

[livid sluice]

No, I’m saying they’re probably not going to fight to the death

[dire sentinel]

Naw, Astrals AI makes the game SOOOOOOOO much more entertaining and replayable. FAIR WARNING its not updated for the Home Invasion update but the author said hes working on it so its not forgotten. Before the update, the mod would make IMO the suspects act like the devs told us they would. The mod makes every situation far more different. Civs would hide far more often on elephant, on gas the suspects would hesitate more and run without shooting at you, suspects on Ides of march would hide in closets more often before ambushing you like guerrilla warfare, in Neon gets turned into an active shooting (u can change this if u dont like it) and youd hear suspects insult the civs before gunning them down through the walls or blowing themselves up.

The mod also adds more trap variations and positions, gives suspects more customized and various guns, among far more things.

TLDR; if ur looking for a mod that changes up every encounter youd def like it.

Shill over

[sharp dirge]

essay?

[dire sentinel]

as u can tell i like the mod

[sharp dirge]

sounds like a good mod

at least if you like realism and not just shooting everything and everyone

[livid sluice]

Dude I may have to start modding my game

[sharp dirge]

nodding

[livid sluice]

I like the part about weapons, like why would a bunch of homeless druggies have an M4, handguns and swayed offs make so much more sense

[bitter mason]

oh yeah astrals was my go to, but its not up to date

[bitter mason]

me when no reading comprehension

[dire sentinel]

some of the stuff i mentioned like hiding suspects and civs or more talkative suspects got kinda added in the new home invasion update. In my experience Its still not as often as the mod

[bitter mason]

yeah I've seen hiding suspects only on Meth, which was also a problem during early access

[sharp dirge]

Is the game actually fun when you try take it seriously?

[bitter mason]

if it goes well it can be

[stone bay]

Neon Tomb has that a lot too

[dire sentinel]

tik tok brain

[sharp dirge]

I'll try when they update the game and it doesn't freeze every 10 minutes

[bitter mason]

I've seen hiding as like, taking cover around corners. Not so much under things and in closets like they can do but dont

[dire sentinel]

As someone who loves to challenge himself with pistol only (pretending to be beatcop), yes

[stone bay]

yeah i was abt to type that out LMAO. sad that the only map i can come up with that was proper hiding is Methhouse

Civis usually hide but suspects do so rarely

[dire sentinel]

Astral fixes that on elephant you can see students hiding behind desks

[livid sluice]

Fuck yeah

[sharp dirge]

have you always been able to make and drink coffee in the game??

[dire sentinel]

ALR IMA STOP SHILLING THE MOD LFMAO

[stone bay]

since E.A

[bitter mason]

yea

[bitter mason]

keep shilling its a great mod

[sharp dirge]

what else can you do at the station other than shoot shit

wait really?

[dire sentinel]

check out the evidence, shoot the totally not 1940 germ man sympathizer dude in the basement, check out the chief

[stone bay]

what's it all abt, never saw it

[bitter mason]

AI mod, makes suspects way more varied and fixes behaviours like hiding and such, also makes the levels make more sense
like removing most of the goon on streamer

[stone bay]

i will install it now

a lotta diff packages, what is the major difference>

[dire sentinel]

It’s broken rn i think cuz of the update, the author said he’ll update it though

[stone bay]

yeah i just saw the update date and it isnt up 2 date

[dire sentinel]

First few are difficulties (faster reaction times), an AIO with all the optional files, then more AI on maps. all the other optional files should say what they change

[stone bay]

i see...is there any other AI mod that tweaks it so the suspects feel more human than just wanting to die?

[dire sentinel]

not that I know of, i’m jus waiting for it to update cuz its the only one i know and love

[simple drum]

Which AI mod is this?

[dire sentinel]

Astrals AI Revamp

[sharp dirge]

anyone else think judge is hot?

[wispy cypress]

the fuck

[simple drum]

Thanks!

[dire sentinel]

LFMAO

[sharp dirge]

judge was the reason I bought the game

[wispy cypress]

Ur pfp explains everything.

[sharp dirge]

wdym

[dire sentinel]

the british in your bio explains it all

[sharp dirge]

oh man I forgot I was British

[modern walrus]

i want to kms because of "a lethal obsession mission"
trying to complete on S tier but a lot of door traps and complicated corners to clear

and wanted to use CS gas but they're all wearing masks

[sharp dirge]

bangs and also you can mirror around corners if it helps

[wispy cypress]

need help? bored asf rn

[modern walrus]

i mirror them but sometimes forgot to look up to check trap

[modern walrus]

nah my internet is ass rn

[sharp dirge]

just try and go slow

[wispy cypress]

dont worry, 200ms is good enough

[sharp dirge]

I don't really have good advice I suck at the game lol

[wispy cypress]

its only 3 suspects in there

[mint falcon]

use stingers, mirror every door you can, get a launcher with stingers/flashes

this is the mission to go slow on, and believe me it's easy to do it if you aren't kicking down every door

[sharp dirge]

every time I use stingers I manage to hit myself with them

[mint falcon]

even with them in grenade form?

[sharp dirge]

I manage to bounce them back towards me

[stone bay]

skill issue ig, just chuck em hard and far

[mint falcon]

hi amazon prime
why do you charge 30$ for "the rookie" seasons even if have the subscription?

[sharp dirge]

I am a walking skill issue 😔

[stone bay]

hihi

[wispy cypress]

get better furry boy

[mint falcon]

don't be hard on yourself

just do it slowly, and learn from your mistakes

[stone bay]

idk lol skill issue pay me more

[mint falcon]

no bezos ur already having more money than i can imagine
also borrow me like idk 30 milion it's pennies for you

[sharp dirge]

aww such sweet encouraging words, thanks

[wispy cypress]

tf

[sharp dirge]

what?

[mint falcon]

tf2

[sharp dirge]

great game

[stone bay]

eh nah. imma watch you burn

[mint falcon]

fuck
you're next as a ready or not level

[sharp dirge]

do any of your games freeze randomly in singleplayer and does it do the same in multiplayer

cus I don't want to go join a multiplayer match and then freeze half way through

[mint falcon]

why did i use ceramic WHY
steel is better as it seems

[sharp dirge]

but ceramic should block all damage until it breaks

[mint falcon]

yes
and i need my armor not to break

[sharp dirge]

you playing with the AI element?

[mint falcon]

yes

[sharp dirge]

just get some of the armorers or whatever they're called

[mint falcon]

i love coming up to the doc in the briefing room, he's telling me stuff like "your crew looks up to you" and i just release lightsticks making the judge respond to that with "lightstick. deploying chemlight."

[sharp dirge]

he talks?

[mint falcon]

now yes

[sharp dirge]

damn I know nothing about this game

[noble pasture]

Smoke suspects?

[sick valve]

wear gas mask, 7.62x51 guns are 2 shot incap (iirc), bring lots of gas, open a door and give it a sec before you push in, if you're scared gas the shit out of the room, if you're not scared gas the shit out of the room, if your friends aren't wearing masks gas your friends,

[frail quartz]

7.62x51 one-shots suspects on maps without health modifiers, but on every other map it has the same stopping power as 5.56

[sick valve]

ty king, couldn't remember the exact amount

[slate ingot]

Anyone's game freezes are random times when playing?

[sharp dirge]

or I could just go in with light armor and a 7.62 gun and shoot anything that moves

[slate ingot]

It's kinda pissing me off cause i can't even complete a level without freezing

[stone bay]

7.62x51 usually 1 hit incaps if it isnt below the waist. Eve mn with armor an AP round would most of the time just knock them cold. If it is no body armor suspects than 1 shot to the gut would do the trick

[sick valve]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-iron-man-avengers-the-avengers-gif-5398429

embed fail :c

it was supposed to be a gif of tony stark saying "You, I like you"

[sharp dirge]

sadge

what I meant when I said I know nothing was that I don't know of the voice lines or stuff in the headquarters etc

[stone bay]

U new to RoN?

[sharp dirge]

me?

[stone bay]

Yeah. You seem a lil confused

[sharp dirge]

been playing since feb, just don't play that much

[stone bay]

Nvm. Lol i cannot read

[sharp dirge]

got 36 hours and S ranked half the missions

[stone bay]

Eh just have fun tbh. Maps are nasty but thrilling. It’s a tad confusing but you’ll get through

[sharp dirge]

then lost my save file lmao

[stone bay]

Nice. It took me 500 hours to even think of doing S

[worn girder]

I feel like I'm losing hope in ever getting a proper DLSS fix, is UE5 just abysmal compared to UE4 or something in terms of performance? I'm either completely misunderstanding it or the devs don't care too much for a proper performance fix rn
Am I the only one?

[wispy cypress]

Just wait? They got better things to do

[sharp dirge]

devs are trying to fix the poor performance

[worn girder]

Yeah the question comes down to whether or not this is fixable

[sharp dirge]

but game developement takes time and void isn't a triple a studio

[worn girder]

I know for a fact the devs do wanna fix performance if it's an issue, but is it even an issue? Is this just the new normal?
And I do know that, I've been saying the same to plenty, just curious on whether or not this is actually an issue or if it's just UE5 things

[shy thicket]

They more than have enough money to spend to fix problems

[wispy cypress]

Dude sweating over dlss

[worn girder]

Not how it works, you can't really just "hire" people and call it a day, it's way more complex
Training, getting them used to the new thing, making sure they aren't randoms, and way more

[sharp dirge]

as far as I'm aware UE5 is a lot more cpu heavy than UE4 but it tends to perform slightly better (at least from my experience)

[worn girder]

Well yeah, 24fps in hospital map is borderline powerpoint slideshow so I'm pretty damn salty about that. At least I get a smooth 30 on other maps and not juttery, so there's that ig

[wispy cypress]

use fsr, play with settings

[worn girder]

Interesting, time to hope it's not just my cpu (cause man that's a rough one)

[shy thicket]

We shouldn't have to use fsr

[sharp dirge]

they've made some decent progress since the dlc release and while it isn't perfect it's nice knowing that they are trying

[worn girder]

FSR3 on quality gives me lower by ~5%, and it looks worse, and FSR3 on performance gives me ~20% less and looks ABYSMAL so no thanks

[sharp dirge]

kind of the new standard for modern games sadly, a lot of developers rely on fsr and dlss as a crutch

[wispy cypress]

Then buy better pc bruh, this is UE5 game after all

[worn girder]

Yeah I do really love what they've done so far

[sharp dirge]

not everyone has disposable income to buy a new pc for one game

[worn girder]

Alright, send me 1000€ for a new build.
In other words, I have no savings for a new build when my current one works just fine for every other game

[shy thicket]

It seems games are rarely well optimised these days.

[frail quartz]

DLSS should be used to play 60 fps games at 120 fps, not play 10 fps games at 60 fps.

[wispy cypress]

AAA games are rarely optimized***

[sharp dirge]

yeah and it sucks, but compared to a few similar UE5 games ready or not is pretty decent

[wispy cypress]

Work ig, u are not the only one with these problems. Im on rtx3050 my game runs smoothly withour fsr 1440p.

[shy thicket]

True. There are true gems in the indie scene. Of which RON is definitely not considering their sale numbers and expanded team now.

[sharp dirge]

I know, not excusing poor optimization but there isn't much players can do about it

[frail quartz]

"Western game dev was here."
"How can you tell?"
"115 GB."

[wispy cypress]

115gb for pure laggy chaos, broken mechanics.

[shy thicket]

Ai art.......

[wispy cypress]

I dont play aaa games ngl, small studios are way better

[worn girder]

Alright, feel free to send me a job listing that'll hire me.
And one that I have not checked already.
And one that won't have shifts that happen during school.
It's simple to say that, but it's way harder to do it.
Trust me when I say I've tried.
glances at the plenty of "Sorry, we have deemed your application not up to our high standards." in my email inbox

[sharp dirge]

agreed

[wispy cypress]

Trepang2, echo point nova, severed steel. Small underrated games, but more Fun that AAA bshit.

There are people who wants money.
And there are people who wants money to make their game better.

[shy thicket]

The days of big studios releasing well optimised, completed games are long gone now. so sad. There are exceptions but they should be the norm.

[wispy cypress]

2015 gaming era 🔥

[sharp dirge]

good luck, hope you find a job that isn't shit

[shy thicket]

Cartridge gaming era was GOAT

[worn girder]

I appreciate it, it'll be some time till I find one that actually wants me in the sea of 3-5 years for jdev, weird interview processes, full stack for frontend, and just outright job listings for show, but maybe in the future I'll have better luck

[turbid pawn]

i have a question, WHY THE FUCKING ENNEMY IN NARCOS HURT ME SO MUCH ? THEY SHOOT BOMB OR WHAT ????

[wispy cypress]

ragee ragee

[frail quartz]

Bombs work by producing an explosion that throws sharp bits of metal at you at high speeds, so by definition, bullets are bombs

[shy thicket]

RON suspects have all undergone Spartan enhancements. Only explanation for their behaviour.

[turbid pawn]

you prefer i say C4

[shy thicket]

They don't cower from fire, they have perfect night vision, the sun doesn't blind them, they see through the thickest vegetation, they can identify SWAT from a pixel,they never tire, they have incredible aim.... Spartans

[frail quartz]

Zero self-preservation too

[shy thicket]

Suspects yelling "don't shoot" having just killed 3 swat officers....

Does anyone know what happened to all those animations that were shown to be in the works a couple years back. Recently as well just pre 1.0 they were doing animations stuff. What happened?

[dense quest]

Ironically that happens irl lmao

[shy thicket]

True. Just surprised it happened on beachfront house mission

[dense quest]

There was an ai mod that makes suspects hide and run away more often but I think it didn't get updated yet

[wispy cypress]

annoying shit

"Dont shoot"
(Sprays the whole mag at the same second)

[shy thicket]

The dialogue completely fails to match gameplay far too often

[wispy cypress]

yea

[shy thicket]

Guy tortured on the floor "evidence bagged" ... Bruh

[wispy cypress]

ngl i like how that cover actually helps them (When suspect runs for cover while shooting)

feels realistic too

[shy thicket]

Yea that's cool. But so many animations and stuff have been cut it is so disappointing. It could have been so much better

[wispy cypress]

True

[dense quest]

I wonder if modders aren't able to insert animations in

Cuz they definitely would've made their own at this point

[shy thicket]

Impossible

[wispy cypress]

If there gonna be Resisting arrest combat animation, i might mod my game for the first time lmao

[dense quest]

I played plenty games before where you can mod and replace animations but I'm guessing ready or not doesn't support that

[shy thicket]

There was.... Look it up on YouTube

[wispy cypress]

its for pvp

[stone bay]

pretty sure it's cut content

[wispy cypress]

It will happen i think, cuz pvp is coming back

[shy thicket]

I wish they would at least replace all the ai garbage before they start even thinking about pvp

[stone bay]

pretty sure it's not.

[wispy cypress]

kaminsky said it

[stone bay]

Didn't they scrapped a dynamic movement system for the npcs?

[shy thicket]

I meant ai art and stuff

[stone bay]

There's AI art???

[shy thicket]

I'm pretty sure the old subtitles were ai given how garbage they used to be

It's better now but man it was so bad

[dense quest]

did you see the family pictures in lawmaker? 💀

[ionic gale]

What about the weird ass stop mass shooting poster that has the obviously AI generated pic

[stone bay]

I don't have the DLC lmfao

[ionic gale]

I also haven’t finished lawmaker yet

[dense quest]

yeah in conclusion a lot of art in this game is made by ai