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[sharp dirge]

another hour and 10 minutes downloading ready or not 😔

[stone bay]

accurate

[sharp dirge]

I love british broadband

[rare berry]

haha acccurate, i try to not uninstall it anymore since ive got corrupted data each time i reinstall it

[stone bay]

im in australia, whatever your time is is at least tripled here

[sharp dirge]

4 whole megabytes a second across 30 devices

[stone bay]

i retract my statement what the everloving shitfuck is that

[sharp dirge]

I am hoping that the game will at least freeze less when I reinstall it

[rare berry]

With my 3070 its running really fine now, i had a lot of drops before that forced me to lower graphics now, im on epic mostly 60 fps each time, just Narcos still have severe drops

[sharp dirge]

with my beautiful beast of a gpu (rx 6400) I get a whopping 40fps on minimum settings at 720p

[agile topaz]

its not a fifty gig update its applying the update to fifty gigs worth of files in the whole game because it needed to update the entire game and move it to ue5.3

[serene timber]

Do people think dogs should be in ready or not

[rare berry]

omg

[stone bay]

i view that as exactly the same because it takes the same half an hour of time to do

[agile topaz]

i dont think it would make much sense it would be cool but not worth the added risk of adding them with the issues mainly the ai have already its not worth it but it would be cool

[rare berry]

lets stalk void dev with your idea and mine (adding command tab into helmet cam to coordinate better when teams are divided)

[stone bay]

good lord do you know what punctuation is

[agile topaz]

its fucking discord who cares

[stone bay]

me, who had to reread that sentence several times to gain the slightest insight into its meaning

[sharp dirge]

it's*

[agile topaz]

stop being dyslexic then

[stone bay]

it's* is it is, that is in fact not correct. Its is the posessive

[serene timber]

Like zero hour added dogs to there game and it works really well

[stone bay]

it's is a contraction for it is.

"gain the slighest insight into it is meaning" is not a sentence in the english language.

[sharp dirge]

huhhhh

[rare berry]

me with my syntax grammar and conjugation mistakes

[agile topaz]

i mean you could say "it is discord who cares" but it sounds weird

[sharp dirge]

it's is correct bro I'm from England

[stone bay]

not when it refers to the possessive its

cause on my end your message came after mine where I used that

[rare berry]

btw i suppose the game will keep having new contents with time (i hope so even if EA ended)

[rose wadi]

"its discord who cares" uhhh? It being discord is why it matters? Discord is literally a platform used to communicate with other human beings. That means you need to type like, you know... a human being.

[agile topaz]

fun fact the english changed a lot of spellings of english words in the 1800s that already had spellings that are now the US spellings

[agile topaz]

doesnt mean i need to use fucking perfect mla format grammar to type

[stone bay]

it does mean you cant have a sentence with 6 seperate clauses and no punctuation

[agile topaz]

it can and i will

[sharp dirge]

to be fair grammar doesn't matter that much but it's hard to read what you wrote

[agile topaz]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[rose wadi]

Okay then dont get salty when nobody has any idea what it is you're saying

Skill issue indeed

[stone bay]

erm why does it say i own home invasion

[agile topaz]

its a glitch

[rose wadi]

Read the patch notes

[stone bay]

oh so you were referring to that before. you were in fact talking about an entirely unrelated thing to the actual discussion

[rare berry]

thats also what i said in before i tought you talked about main menu haha

[agile topaz]

are you talking about the fifty gig update thing?

[stone bay]

wrong person that is my bad

[stone bay]

yeah i meant before i even loaded how I was still getting the missions downloaded with the update

[latent lion]

This must already be known, but there's a tape titled "Spiders girls" with The Spider symbol in the valley mansion. Seems like alot of human trafficking is connected to the spider network

[sly orchid]

Flux raider still has broken attachments 💀

[ruby heron]

Is the dlc worth it?

[tulip valve]

Yes it is 🙂

Great job on the new update! Love the new popup menus and the name change to quick play instead of practice.

[shy tulip]

practice will be missed

Time to make a mod to revert it

[tight canyon]

i played the game fine 4 days ago and now i only get 4 fps. i tried direct x 11 and 12

[carmine pewter]

did not realize shooting a suspect in the hip would make them drop to one knee and just die slowly falling over that was brutal 💀

[ionic gale]

Wdym lol

[shy tulip]

It is now quick play

[tranquil fulcrum]

has anyone heard when we may have custom maps back?

I can't say I know much about the process decides none of them work rn.

[median coyote]

thats map creator's issue not the dev team's issue

[tranquil fulcrum]

so people just haven't been able to update/redesign any maps yet?

[median coyote]

They can update but ig none of them have decided to or is taking long

[gaunt gale]

We worked with Modders pre-UE5 to make their jobs easier, but work like this still takes time

[tranquil fulcrum]

Oh, the engine change. Forgot about that detail, makes alot more sense why they aren't back yet now, I image that takes alot of work to adapt to. Thanks!

[gaunt gale]

Lots and lots

[silk junco]

kammie nuke #💬gamenight-discussion

[lone raven]

You might say it's an unreal amount of work.

[rose wadi]

Hopefully this puts an end to the "Why isnt the DLC in single player?!" threads. Hopefully...

Now if only the negative reviews that incorrectly stated so could also be removed...

The balaclava threads didnt stop, though. Thats a shame T_T

[shy tulip]

tactical dressup moment

[agile topaz]

i gurantee someones gonna think quick play is like pvp or quick ready up for any mp lobby lmao

[rose wadi]

Ugh, youre right

[median coyote]

Its just balaclavas 😭

[rose wadi]

RIGHT?! I dont understand the immense outcry. Like oh my GOD

[median coyote]

Plus no in SWAT really wears those no more irl so it would kill the vibe for me

[shy tulip]

I have already seen people saying quick play is confusing and assume it's gonna be for coop

even though.. it's literally under the singleplayer button

it will not appear if you do not click singleplayer.

[agile topaz]

we gamers are professionally illiterate

[safe python]

whats allowed for the hanged man achievement?

[rose wadi]

Im going to cry

[stone bay]

taser, bangs and bash.

[safe python]

what about nvg?

[stone bay]

Nope, no equipment

[safe python]

what about other players if they already have the achievement?

[stone bay]

That shouldn't pose a problem

[safe python]

alright thank you

[full shore]

Work? What work? I always see you on discord

[mint falcon]

i've just played full 2 hours of ready or not after all the new patches, and i really like that they've brought out the mechanic of hiding, the game only needs some optimalization patches, and ai fixes, and new levels and we're good

[safe python]

atleast he comunicates with the community

[chilly anvil]

We don't have a working project with the dummy c++ classes. In the past, reap did all of that of that for us, but he doesn't have the time to devout to it right now.

[chilly anvil]

Nah, we've all hit dead ends.

[median coyote]

Shiiiiit

[lost rover]

Is there a way to downpatch the game, currently can't play because of the freezing bug that occurs everytime i get into a gunfight with suspects

[median coyote]

The best that you can do is when you launch it you should have a option to reset the game's data which will clean all of the progress and mods

I done that and it has been working ok since

[lost rover]

I don't have mods anymore

So i should just reset my progress and it'll work?

[median coyote]

I did that and has been working fine for me, idk if you should take my word for it as it can happen differently to people

[lost rover]

Was your game also freezing?

[median coyote]

it would just constantly do 1 sec freezes

whenverI turn and shit

[shy tulip]

I don't think resetting your progress would do anyting related to that

[median coyote]

idk

Because when I did that it was able to play without freezing

[lost rover]

Stutters are different from freezes, by freezing i mean like the game just freezes or hangs on your screen and you have to close the game via task manager or signing out of your pc

[median coyote]

oh shit yeah

then I am not sure about that, what specs you run?

[sly orchid]

Will the flux raider attachment bug get addressed in the third patch?

[lost rover]

I5-6600
Gtx 1050ti
8gb ram
Game is installed on an ssd

[safe python]

for the hanged man achievement do the suspects or civilians need to be alive, like an S tier rank?

[stone bay]

I don’t think so

[scarlet obsidian]

Hey everyone. Sorry if I missed this in a previous note or post or something. Has anyone else had issues with mods not working?

[stone bay]

All the mods broke in the transition from UE4 to 5. Since it’s up the individual modders to update them, there aren’t a lot, but some.

[scarlet obsidian]

Oh wow, thats huge lol. Thank you!

[ionic gale]

shit amn i gotta reinstall the hole game lol

[stone bay]

Is there a mod for brighter chemlights? The vanilla ones don’t do shit in terms of lighting.

[silk junco]

i mean theyre glowsticks

[ionic gale]

i feel like they are only used for signifying if a room is clear

[umbral oar]

cronch

[lone raven]

Speaking of chemlights, how many do you carry? I seem to run out after about 10 rooms.

[silk junco]

10

[ionic gale]

i think everyone gets 10

you need mods if you want more

[lone raven]

That would explain why I run out after about 10 rooms. Thanks.

[latent lion]

valley of the dolls is a pain in the ass to S rank holy shit

[tulip valve]

You've convinced me. Down with quick play! Long live practice.

🤣

[tulip valve]

Beanbag shotgun is your friend. Feel free to add me, Im happy to help. I have S ranked every map solo.

[latent lion]

I've been using the AR pellet rifle but it has no stopping power, feels like AI has better chances with that one instead of the beanbag

Talking about the SWAT AI

[tulip valve]

Yeah AI is pretty decent with pepper balls. If you take the shotgun, you'll have the stopping power you're looking for 🙂

[latent lion]

Are you NA?

[tulip valve]

Yes I am.

[latent lion]

I'm in the EU, you think it'd be laggy if we played?

[tulip valve]

I wish I could say no. I have a friend near london and it's hit or miss. There can be a lot of desync at times making things frustrating.

[exotic surge]

Has there been any improvement in performance?

[latent lion]

Probably not a good idea then, I'll just take a break and retry with the beanbag. I had one suspect left who was pre aiming and he domed me immediately

[latent lion]

I have a 1080 and it's running pretty well for me, occasional lag spike but nothing frustrating

[tulip valve]

RIP. I've been there. It happened to me when I was attempting the .357 achiev. I had the entire map done, one suspect left and he domed me as I turned the corner. Of course after I retried I had the worst luck for what seemed like forever 😂

[latent lion]

The thing is, he had been camping that same spot for like 5 minutes and hadn't stopped pre aiming, I could hear him on the top floor everytime I was yelling at someone else

[agile topaz]

800

[latent lion]

I've never used this feature lmao

[agile topaz]

there are working ones on nexus like near a hundred in the past week

[lone raven]

It tends to matter more in an organised multiplayer game.

[latent lion]

Yeah I guess it's valuable in co-op

[agile topaz]

also in big huge maps or maps that look very similar and i need to know what exactly ive cleared so i dont waste time going back over them multiple times

[jade apex]

How do I disable the mods? This is for the mods downloaded through mod. io. I do not want to delete the mods

[shy tulip]

Launch the game in safemode, that is the only option to "disable" mods, outside of moving/deleting them

[jade apex]

Alright, that's a weird way to do it but okay

[cyan geyser]

I momentarily became a taser master today and managed to nearly land all of my taser shots on the suspects in the dorms

I also played it for the first time beforehand and managed to solo full clear it on my first run

I’m no hero but I try my best

[lone raven]

Well done.

Any way of getting rid of the peek door/open door cues that pop up when you are close to a door?

Or making it open door exclusively so I just press interact anywhere?

[shut tree]

I notice that the RON has lots of chinese audience its pretty cool

[jade apex]

One of my squad members picked up two fully grown men and brought them to the mission entrance, upon setting a man down the poor man got launched into the air and into the local rocks

[lone raven]

rescued

[delicate sandal]

Can squad AI use the lockpick gun? I gave 1 to two of them, but the option doesn't show in the menu. Whenever I tell them to pick the lock, they just use their multitool instead.

[amber dock]

I don't think so.

[jade apex]

He wasn't a squad member he was some person retrieval guy, I had no idea those existed in the game that is very cool

[delicate sandal]

Aw what the heck, they can use the mirror gun though? 😆

[amber dock]

Yeah

[delicate sandal]

thank you

[jade apex]

I love the retrieval people. Two of them were perfectly in sync and when they dropped the dudes the dudes got flung into the air

[tribal escarp]

how is the ai now after the new update?

[noble pasture]

Still needs ai mods

[tribal escarp]

damnit

[noble pasture]

The problem is lack of surrender, aim got nerfed

[tribal escarp]

is it comparable to swat4 elite force ai at least?

[shy tulip]

Skillt issue

[lone raven]

Skillet issue

[ionic gale]

Nah

I found the informant on narcos bruh

[noble pasture]

Randomized spot

[ionic gale]

Yeah, every suspect and there’s gonna get double tapped, you don’t hurt one of our boys

[dire fulcrum]

What does mk18 simmunition do ?

[ionic gale]

I am pretty sure it does no damage

In the vanilla game, it’s used in the training mission

[lone raven]

Simmunitions are for training.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, after finding that informant bro, like I’m anger

[lone raven]

Force-on-Force, against other people.

[ionic gale]

Now, if those Narcos do not surrender in like 9.9999ms within me shouting at them, they’re going down

[dire fulcrum]

So its like the vks ?

[jolly verge]

uses 9x18 JHP that deal 80 damage

[lone raven]

Kinda yeah.

[cyan geyser]

Hello chat

[ionic gale]

Helo

[brisk scaffold]

Anyone use frame gen 2.0 yet ? So far it's working great for me I'm getting a solid 120 frames

[stone bay]

how's the performance bump with the new patch? is DLSS still broken?

[ionic gale]

OK, I had to downgrade epic to high settings and DX 11 for it to even load

[stone bay]

that's bad...

[ionic gale]

I mean, that’s just my build

Hold up, let me quickly find what graphics card I’m using

[stone bay]

even so it has no reason to suddently downgrade from an already working setup

[ionic gale]

Yes

How do I check my specs on windows?

OK, it looks like that I’m running a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050

I’m also running 11th generation Intel core i5

What is some other important stuff that I should check?

[median coyote]

Me too

And that was last card that I had before I switched to a better one

Still cannot get epic settings

[ionic gale]

dx12 has long loadtimes for me

[stone bay]

ram? gigs of ram are important

[ionic gale]

ah where can i check that in TM?

[median coyote]

I do not think it is the RAM or anything

[median coyote]

Two DDR4 RAMS?

[stone bay]

it's still important to know how much it is since new update seems to tank the RAM

[median coyote]

idk if they increased the RAM needed now or sum

bc 16 gigs was for sure enough

[stone bay]

idk why they would if that's the case. game was running fine

[ionic gale]

where can i check wut i have in task manger?

[stone bay]

go in task manager then the performance tab

[median coyote]

It should be memory

And should tell you how much you have and how much is used

[rare berry]

Im S'ing the crackhouse i run about 10 min around wholes rooms twice because i didnt find the last suspect, the bastard was hided under a bed all the time looking at his tox friends being arrested lmao

[ionic gale]

ok tnx

[median coyote]

@stone bay how is the game for you, running and fine and stutters or sorts?

[ionic gale]

9.2 gigs of RAM (in total)

[lone raven]

Check your corners becomes check under beds.

[stone bay]

update is getting ready but once it gets done i'll check the usage of the RAM and CPU and make sure the optimisation is done accordingly

[median coyote]

And let me guess, all of it being used?

[rare berry]

Checking for the tox under the bed lmao

[ionic gale]

no 6.6 gigs rn

i can open the game rq and see the spike possibly

[ionic gale]

By the way, there’s a message too

[median coyote]

I am sorry but tho 8 gigs can run it, it will be a pain

The recommended amount is 16 gigs

[ionic gale]

DAMN

[stone bay]

13.4GB of RAM/16 is being used atm. i need to check the frames on epic with FSR in a host since that's where my frame issues were

[ionic gale]

Just opening up the game right now at the menu screen has bumped it up to 10.9 gigs on static

10.8-9

[median coyote]

shit

Was it running fine for you before 1.0 update?

[ionic gale]

wait never mind

I didn’t look at it correctly OK,

so I have like 15.9 GB actually

[median coyote]

Then should run fine

[ionic gale]

Me opening up the game is still spiking up my memory it’s just I’m looking at it and I’m using 6.8/15.9

[median coyote]

Just keep in mind that the game seems to have FPS issues

[ionic gale]

The game unopened btw

[median coyote]

Damn

[ionic gale]

There’s a certain message that pops up. Let me just type out what I see.

[median coyote]

Ye error message?

[ionic gale]

It bumps up to 10 gigs of ram when I do open up the just the menu

[stone bay]

15.3/16 ram being used now

[median coyote]

depends on what apps you have opened right now

with discord and the game should run like 13

[stone bay]

with discord and the game it is at 15 so maybe abckground processes?

[median coyote]

i am not sure

[ionic gale]

“WARNING: Known issues with graphics driver
The installed version of the NVIDIA graphics driver has known issues in D3D 12.
Please install the latest driver version or switch to a different rendering API.
Would you like to visit the following URL to download the driver?
(Link to do so)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050
Installed: 512.77
Minimum required: 527.27”

[median coyote]

You have the nvidia software installed?

[ionic gale]

yeah, this is the message that I get every time I click the game to open it

I can still enter the game, and it’s just that message popped up that I have a feeling may or may not be good

[stone bay]

hmm lemme install graphics driver update that may be why iw as struggling with the games

[median coyote]

And you checked and updated it

[ionic gale]

Uh yeah I’m using NVIDIA

[ionic gale]

Uh nah

[median coyote]

then do it

[lone raven]

Update drivers.

[frozen vessel]

Is there any less obvious things I can do to optimise fps

[lone raven]

Look at the ceiling.

[frozen vessel]

pog

[stone bay]

where do i play modded maps cant seem to find them

rip none of them show up

might be outdated maps tbh

[stone bay]

one of these was updated 9 days ago

idk. idnt there a modded map tab anymore?

didnt know there was ever one

i believe there was one before the new UI but i'm nsure, was 2 years ago

yea doesnt look like it bummer

[cyan geyser]

I did a ready or not presentation for public speaking a couple months back, and ended it with “So are you ready or not?….”

[ionic gale]

OK, I installed GeForce experience and I upgraded my drivers

[median coyote]

Now lets hope it can work with at least just some stutters at the start and then no more

[stone bay]

fr?lmao

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I noticed that burning up the game on steam feels a lot more faster now

I’m gonna try launching it on direct x 12 on epic settings again and see if that somehow makes it ass backwards again

[cyan geyser]

yeah, I got the whole room clapping

[median coyote]

did you talked about you know... amos voll stuff?

[stone bay]

[ionic gale]

[ionic gale]

it looks that DX12 is prob the main issue

Ill play in DX11 with high settings hopefully

for me load times with direct x 12 is uh... shes a bit slow

[median coyote]

I tried 11x and it was not good for me

[cyan geyser]

YEP! The three main missions I talked about were the nightclub, port hoken, and voll

I made sure to talk about the phones ringing, human trafficking, and CP ring involved.

Basically, I used pathos (environmental storytelling), logos (game mechanics), and ethos (game reviews) to convince everyone to try the game out. I tried keeping the presentation formal, and tied everything together by stating how police officers go through situations like this on a daily basis (and that everyone should try the game out to see how it reflects society).

[ionic gale]

the loading screen times for me are more better for me in DX 11

[shy tulip]

DX12 is intentionally longer to load + more intensive because it is caching before the round starts

[ionic gale]

yeah i expected it to be the case

[median coyote]

oh shit

[cyan geyser]

I also got a near perfect damn score on the presentation

[median coyote]

Why not 100?

[cyan geyser]

I occasionally stutter and use too much hand movements lol

[median coyote]

ah\

[cyan geyser]

I do love presenting and speaking though. I enjoy talking in front of crowds and leading people

[median coyote]

Sounds like you in college?

[cyan geyser]

Actually senior year of high school. I graduated high school about a month after the presentation

[median coyote]

ah ok

[cyan geyser]

I even did a basics in CQB presentation lol

Everyone in that class knew I was a HUGE fucking tactical nerd

[lone raven]

Lmao

[median coyote]

damn

[stone bay]

was it a school presentation type?

nvm i saw the message above

[cyan geyser]

lol

I’m really passionate in all of this stuff. I’ve been heavily into law enforcement/military/tactical stuff for a while now. Eventually I plan on joining law enforcement when I get out of college.

[stone bay]

but fuck yeah man. you gotta love presenting RoN for school with the lore CQB tactics n stuff

[stone bay]

you and me both. since a kid i wanted to join the army and continue afterwards as a law enforcement officer if i dont die lol. I'm sadly not a U.S citizen of card holder so i cannot serve in the U.S army without pretty much getting debt with uni fees

[median coyote]

unfortunately sometimes you might get limited as they might be rules for "appropiate"

[stone bay]

yeah that's the main issue but i personally believe awareness is essential even if it delves into hot topics

[cyan geyser]

That’s tough. I do hope you go into a similar field of that type though

[ionic gale]

me too ;0

Im a fan of LE/millitary stuff

[stone bay]

i can do Singapore UK or French army (french army is kinda meh) and it leaves a lot of opportunities afterwards.

[ionic gale]

lots of things in that area, LE would be a nice job for me as well

work in firearms would be a backup plan if le doesnt happen

[cyan geyser]

Yeah. I had a big disclaimer beforehand about the heavy topics and such. Even though everyone in my class knows I’m a gun nut and love tactical shit, they all know how formal I am about it. My teacher respects my hobbies and knows that I’m responsible enough to talk about those harsh topics.

[cyan geyser]

👍

[lone raven]

See, video games makes people violent.

[stone bay]

i still have to research if i can join LE aafter living x amount of years in the U.S because i'd need to get a job there and idk if LE allows foreigners to join so it might be a tough gig

[stone bay]

you didnt talk about the civilian intentional casualities you commited did you?

[lone raven]

Tell you where an LE job would be cool? Monte Carlo.

[cyan geyser]

All in the eye of the beholder

[ionic gale]

I haven’t really shared my hobby like taht

[lone raven]

Actually surprised there aren't more CQB guides for RON on Steam.

[ionic gale]

Only like maybe two friends people irl know I’m into this stuff

[stone bay]

only person who knows i'm into all the Le/military stuff is my dad lol

[cyan geyser]

In my 3 years of playing RON, I’ve only shot civilians a few times (mostly because I had a dead run). I also showed this video to the class https://youtu.be/HIFg98i3MWw?feature=shared

[ionic gale]

ima run thru training again

for funsies

[stone bay]

that's a good video to share, it shares what officers face even if it's a game replication and shows the harsh realities we may face

[cyan geyser]

If you ever take a creative class such as public speaking or art, I definitely suggest you try to express your interests in your works. People will start to notice it and give you more respect.

[stone bay]

i personally think the best example of a RoN map to share and dive into for me at least is neon Tomb since in 2015 during the Terrorist attacks in Paris i was quite close to the shootings in the Night Club so if i were to dive into lore on a topic like that it would be that map

[lone raven]

Hey, suspects get PTSD too.

Poor guys get shot or arrested every mission.

[cyan geyser]

In my presentation I talked about the music raging on in the background while bodies of civilians were stacked on top of each other. I also highlighted how it can get overstimulating and that the phones of relatives constantly ring.

[stone bay]

it's definitely one of the more horrificly accurate maps they made and i really commend that. takes a lotta balls to do that

[cyan geyser]

I’ve never heard of the terrorist attacks on the nightclub in 2015 though. From what I can remember, neon tomb was heavily inspired by a shooting of a gay nightclub.

[stone bay]

it was kinda not covered as much by International means but if you were to look up Bataclan attacks it was horrific

from survivor interviews it was really similar to what neon tomb is

[noble pasture]

Dropped most terrorists on Neon Tomb

[cyan geyser]

That’s a lot of casualties

[noble pasture]

Went for kill shots on bombers

Even shot one in the back as he tried to run away

[ionic gale]

yeah at that point to avoid innocents dying...

[lone raven]

🤝

[cyan geyser]

Have you heard of the beslan school siege?

[stone bay]

night club alone was 90, but the attacks were also in small cafes where 40 died. about 100 were injured so it was catastrophic

[lone raven]

Russians went through some rough ops. Basayev was a real menace for them.

[shy pollen]

A gay bar/club in Orlando. Afghani dude shot it up in 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Mateen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_nightclub_shooting

[stone bay]

never did, just looked it up. more than 300 dead. fucking hell

[ionic gale]

I think Narcos is like my favorite map to play through right now

[stone bay]

3 days of hell. i could not imagine

[cyan geyser]

real

[ionic gale]

I already took down Los Locos in Rust Belt and I’ll do it again

[cyan geyser]

yep that one

[ionic gale]

to the dismay of these cartel members, if you start torturing one of our own, you are going to be put down if you do not comply within 0.0000002 milliseconds

[noble pasture]

Got a B

[lone raven]

B for Best

[junior cloak]

Anyone notice that in the DLC commander mode, NPC statuses not changing as fast? I started with all 'Content' and after dying several times and losing 1 officer, the rest of the team is still 'Content". Im not even using the Morale officer or the S.B.A.G.S.

[cyan geyser]

yeah a bunch of explosives went off. If you go to images, you can even see the explosives hooked up to the basketball hoops. The whole roof of the gym caved into the room full of hostages.

[ionic gale]

Speaking of stuff that is based on real life uh

[stone bay]

that's terrifiyingly smart...i'm glad the fuckers are dead now.

[ionic gale]

Elephant is obviously based on the columbine shooting, I mean, the map name is literally from a movie that is about the shooting

[cyan geyser]

maybe you have a strong brain team

[cyan geyser]

👌

[edgy anchor]

hi!

[ionic gale]

Even to the point of the IEDsbecause apparently those two Degens we’re going to do that to hurt even even more people during that situation

[shy pollen]

The similarity of the clothing they wear and parts of the map too, like the library.

[stone bay]

i feel like void had a lot of good ideas for map, some gruesome but were turned down because of low support. i think people dont realise that sometimes we need to face what can be really devestating and it spreads awareness

[lone raven]

They did the Russian opera one, Beslan, a hospital.

[cyan geyser]

Did you guys know that Eric Harris made a custom level of his school on Doom?

[median coyote]

wait

[stone bay]

terrorism is just an ideology of war and it should be eradicated

[shy pollen]

Is that public? Did we ever get it? I forgot about that.

[ionic gale]

h e l o

[stone bay]

nah that's actually cool

[median coyote]

that guy from the columbine shooting?

[shy pollen]

"Eradicating" terrorism just makes more terrorists.

[cyan geyser]

I believe not. Although there are maps of it out there

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah, I remember his doom WADs

[cyan geyser]

One of them yeah. The other was Dylan Klebod

[stone bay]

that's the big issue tbh, no matter how many we kill more just come in. it's a never ending viscious cycle

[median coyote]

ye he made it and him and his friend would play on the level. It was how they planned the shooting

[ionic gale]

Yeah, man, that sucks bro. As long as there’s humans there’s gonna be crap like that

[junior cloak]

once they unlock there skill, aren't they maxed? i usually run intimidator, kicker, breacher, Veteren. before DLC they would drop like flies and i would have to send to therepy. Now after DLC they seem to not be phased by death.

[shy pollen]

When you kill a man, his father, uncle, nephew and son all have a chance to take his place apiece.

[cyan geyser]

I have little knowledge on the morale system since I usually play solo or with my friends

[stone bay]

a lot of it can be absed on religion sadly. extremist groups always take words and change them into something tots different

[stone bay]

that's war. you can kill everyone ofc, but there's always someone who will take a mantle against and spread fear

[cyan geyser]

Terrorism is always subjective to whatever country is being attacked. The United States is definitely identified as a terrorist by some countries.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, definitely

[junior cloak]

On the Morale system, Does choosing Officers with more time in service help?

[ionic gale]

Yeah, mostly because of the admittedly not very cool stuff we kind of did in the Middle East

[shy pollen]

I'd be scared too on the business end of our military. USA RAAHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[cyan geyser]

CHEESEBURGERS! 🍔

[shy pollen]

WALMART 💸

[lone raven]

RON WALMART DLC

[stone bay]

that's the thing. we are all terrorists in a way, we are viewed differently by others and what we want (kill terrosts) is what they want (kill us terrorists). there is no end, we just choose a side

[shy pollen]

Crazy there's no crackhead walmart mission

[cyan geyser]

nah that’s vile. I’m not clearing the entire back storage of a Walmart

[ionic gale]

ngl ur saying some deep shit rn

[stone bay]

the shadow realm

[lone raven]

And only 1 suspect

[stone bay]

i'm in my philosophical mood lol

[shy pollen]

The trailer for this game contains the* aynohl stair-case but I can't fucking talk about it.

[cyan geyser]

still waiting for a realistic mission where there’s only 1 or 2 suspects in a somewhat decent sized map

[noble pasture]

It's probably a concept scene for Neon Tomb

[lone raven]

Like that SWAT 4 mission with the fat guy.

[stone bay]

1 or 2 suspects in a 1000sqft abandonned house would go hard

[noble pasture]

Ass on the floor!

[shy pollen]

Yeah the redwood forest map idr the name. The schizo dude with the friends.

[cyan geyser]

I played like 4 missions of it and then got mad cuz I was shit

[ionic gale]

You mean Gerard and his boyfriends?

[lone raven]

Never play SWAT 4 vanilla. The aiming is junk.

[cyan geyser]

that’s 3-4 suspects

[ionic gale]

Sullivan slope

[lone raven]

SEF mod.

[shy pollen]

SWAT 4 still has RoN on content for sure. Nonlethal also doesn't make me want to kms when I'm playing it. Back in pre 1.0 it had 2. Did they increase it? Never noticed.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I’ve been playing the game with the elite force mud and it’s pretty cheeki breeki

[lone raven]

Eezstreet was a developer with VOID at one stage.

[cyan geyser]

I barely played SWAT 4. Now I’m reconsidering going back to it

[ionic gale]

It’s pretty nice with the elite force mod

That’s how I exclusively play it and it’s a old but gold game for sure

[stone bay]

is SWAT 4 worth? i'm hesitating between that and MGSV

[lone raven]

If you like RON, you'll like SWAT 4.

[shy pollen]

It's super ez to set up SEF with pals too. I would recommend it so you get a good idea of what the genre looks like outside of RoN. Pre-Vegas Rainbow Six is great too.

[cyan geyser]

What’s SEF?

Man I feel ignorant right now

[lone raven]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/swat-elite-force

[cyan geyser]

professional (/hj) Ron player but knows nothing about swat 4

[stone bay]

i'll have a look into it

[shy pollen]

Yeah that's it. Resolution fixes, ton of changes etc. I would recommend. Also MSGV is nothing like these games but it's great too. Yoink it on sale, Konami doesn't deserve a dime for it. @stone bay

[ionic gale]

It is a popular mod that adds a bunch of weapons and other stuff

[cyan geyser]

does the gunplay feel better?

[ionic gale]

It is run on yeh game’s Stechkev syndicate expansion with the game

[lone raven]

Gunplay worse.

[ionic gale]

I mean, you could toggle the ability to have iron sight, but that it’s practically just the base game

[stone bay]

i know MSGV and SWAT 4 are nothing alike but i'd hate to go on GOG and not use my 20 dollars on my wallet rn 😦

[cyan geyser]

nono I know RON gunplay is better than SWAT 4. I’ve played SWAT 4 briefly. I was asking if SEF made the gunplay of S4 better

[lone raven]

Better than vanilla by a mile.

You can actually walk and shoot decently.

[cyan geyser]

no way walk and shoot?

[lone raven]

Multitasking swat man

[cyan geyser]

I’ll check it out on yt

[shy pollen]

Wait for a sale. Get Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon, and SWAT 4. Great trio of games that all share the old school tactical elements the industry sorely misses now.

[stone bay]

i got one of the old RS and all GRs just missing swat tbh

[shy pollen]

Swat isn't as much about the gunplay as dealing with criminals using your, you know, special weapons and tactics.

[shy pollen]

Crazy you don't have SWAT 4 then. You're missing out.

[ionic gale]

GOG is practically the only legal way to get SWAT 4 Gold edition

[stone bay]

def. i never really had an option to play mature games until 8 or that i had a pc until like 3 years ago lol

[ionic gale]

Of course you could get it by unethical means but we won’t get into that today boys and girls

[shy pollen]

Redlining the chat here but if you can't directly compensate creators for their product in a monetary transaction, does it constitute piracy? Don't answer that.

[lone raven]

Best way as well.

[ionic gale]

yee

[jolly owl]

How does Armorer work with Steel armor?

[stone bay]

How the fuck are these suspects and/or civs making so much noise after they've died?

[stone bay]

idk..i just shoot em more to shut up

[cyan geyser]

are you sure you’re killing them or incapacitating them?

[stone bay]

sometimes even if they are under the dead reporting they still make a lotta noise

idk why. usually they'd be dead and shut up but nah apprently

[stone bay]

Probably 98% of the cases I've dealt with have been kills

[cyan geyser]

I rarely ever hear them excessively groan for long

[stone bay]

if it was a headshot kill and they groan yes it's weird. but sometimes if you neck hit them they can groan then die

[edgy anchor]

i need some help, so im doing a kill all run on RoN, and my squad members keep rushing into the building and killing me, how should i combat this?

[stone bay]

You can't

[cyan geyser]

that’s pretty unethical, and you literally just joined a couple minutes ago. However, you can command them to sit at the spawn (which will prevent them from killing you) or you can hop onto a practice match which doesn’t have any bots.

[stone bay]

Practice matches still have bots

[umbral oar]

host private lobby

[cyan geyser]

sorry mb I mean friendly lobby

[stone bay]

that is an odd way to state your welcome but yeah

[edgy anchor]

commanding them to sit at spawn doesn't work sadly

[ionic gale]

hey guys and gals

[stone bay]

me mudahar here

[stone bay]

It's a video game, there are no applicable ethics

[edgy anchor]

if you'd more explanation on the run im doing, im doing a Kill all, No Primary, No Armor, No Gadgets, No Grenades, No Hud, Hardcore AI, Halved Health, 1911 only run

[ionic gale]

;0

[umbral oar]

hell na

[edgy anchor]

like, Thank You, Come Again and 23MB/S

redoing 23MB/S cuz i didnt kill the brother

and the girl in the bathroom

[tawdry lagoon]

go to 'host friends only lobby' and play by yourself, there should be no AI teammates just you

[edgy anchor]

now i have another problem, my entire pistol menu has been replaced by submachine guns

[stone bay]

thats odd lol

[edgy anchor]

im gonna delete my save and redo everything

[ionic gale]

I’m a border guard for a Soviet country right now

[stone bay]

best thing to do. fresh start can help, if it doesnt then idk? mod conflicts?

[edgy anchor]

deleting my save fixed it

[stone bay]

ah nice one!

[edgy anchor]

traumatised my crewmates so hard they left

[stone bay]

lmao, is it online play or AI?

[edgy anchor]

AI

[stone bay]

guess the AI couldnt deal with it

[noble pasture]

Killed the Terrorist Leader on Hospital map in my Ironman run

He had a lady hostage as human shield, sent him to his 72 virgins

.357 magnum to the forehead

[stone bay]

.357 magnum to the head must hit hard

[stone bay]

better off dead than alive

[noble pasture]

JHP round too, it put his blood on the wall

[stone bay]

JHP my babygirl

[noble pasture]

Ended up getting a B

[stone bay]

B is fine tbh, anything below is a tad worse. got any unauth?

[wispy cypress]

hardest s tier?

[stone bay]

Hokan for me. or even neon tomb pre-update

[noble pasture]

Nope, only penalty is not taking the HVT alive

No unauthorised use of force or dead civies

[wispy cypress]

mindjot

[stone bay]

that's like 500 deducted?

[noble pasture]

ye

[wispy cypress]

Or carriers

[noble pasture]

but I did save a doctor/nurse's life over a terrorist's life

[edgy anchor]

is F good?

[noble pasture]

good trade in my book, if you ask me

[stone bay]

i feel like they should add points if you save a hostage

[stone bay]

considering you're going for all dead, best score possible

imma try a .357 only run of maps, should be great

[edgy anchor]

god speed

i would've done a revolver run too, the revolver was just too powerful for me

[stone bay]

1911 is fine no? worst pistol in the category?

[noble pasture]

In my ironman story (recording the gameplay) Judge got emotionally affected after Elephant. 2 civilians got executed by the shooters after swat has arrived. So now he shoots to kill suspects who take hostages

[ionic gale]

Dude, is there a reason why I can’t find any public games?

[noble pasture]

WatchmenYoutube killed them all

[stone bay]

lmao that's a great story

villan arc judge

[noble pasture]

I see a hostage being taken, I dont yell, I aim for a headshot

[ionic gale]

Wait, did he really jam up the servers?

[noble pasture]

In my judge's eyes, taking a hostage as human shield means you forfeited your right to live

[ionic gale]

what the hell happened?

[stone bay]

always, takers must die

[noble pasture]

So far other than on Elephant. I managed to save all human shields

[stone bay]

being willing to sacrifice humans for your sake is evil

wosrse is people who didnt ask for anyhting

[noble pasture]

I forgot if its in a take I have saved but a guy took a hostage on Valley and I accidentally hit the civie during animation as I was in Janie's room and he was by the party stage. Civie fell down alive and I lit up the suspect

Also a suspect tried to 1 v 1 me, he busted down a door I tried to wand, got me to bleeding first time, I retreated into the developent room to bandage and threw a bang. Mid throw he gets me to bleeding again!

[ionic gale]

Up in a public match, but either someone nobody’s online or something has gone terribly wrong

[stone bay]

i get that sometimes

[noble pasture]

Myself bleeding and the suspect stunned I knew I couldnt yell for compliance and bandage in time, so I blew suspect's brains out with my side arm @stone bay

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I’m trying to get into one, but for some reason it’s not even working

[stone bay]

it's collateral damage but it saved the civi's life

[noble pasture]

He got me to bleeding twice in 5 seconds, my team cleared another room

[stone bay]

in a 1 on 1 situation you need advntages, in CQC maps i run a shotgun (supernova my beauty) and just clean house, in case of hostage situations i switch to a more devastating and clean sidearm for limited damage

[stone bay]

that's tuf being in that situation

i really love the visceral blood mod, it adds so much to the effects

[noble pasture]

But yeah, went for the finisher, and 5.7 to the head

[stone bay]

5.7 is nasty

imma try ironman mode\

[wispy cypress]

iron mannn

[noble pasture]

My Ironman judge started hopeful for a peaceful mission conclusion on Gas Station, now he shoots to kill anyone with a gun after first 2 yells if he has time

[wispy cypress]

ngl took me 4 tries only

[noble pasture]

Use mods, suspects are still nasty

[stone bay]

i use mods, what kind of mods tho? i'm just runnin gun and blood mods

[noble pasture]

You can't afford to die once so I recommend "No Crack For AI"

If you want to be safer, go to nexus, mod page and look for "No Crack for You - Low Intensity" trims down a bit suspect count but can still find 15 suspects or more on some maps

[stone bay]

i'll keep the suspect count the same but less crack, i also gotta get used to my commands for them, i'm not much of a command user so it may be interesting to learn

[noble pasture]

No Crack makes suspects less accurate and more likely to surrender. Just like real people

[noble pasture]

Just look at the mod page, plenty difficulties to choose from

[stone bay]

as expected from people

m11 looks cool

alr i installed that and some cosmetic attachements.. time to put my skill to the test

school shooting mission got me desensitized 😐

[ionic gale]

I shot a civilian that pushed me and I did not get deductive points for incapacitating him

[stone bay]

first map went well, 1 suspect dead and 1 officer injured. but the morale is still up

[ionic gale]

Well, it looks like that

Hold up let me keep testing this

One more test

OK, it looks like that if civilians harm you TOC doesn’t get on your ass and you won’t get any points deducted

Like a prime example is Daniella like if she pushes you, you can open fire on her and even kill her without getting points deducted

[granite kiln]

TOC the goat

[ionic gale]

I don’t know if this is a feature or a complete bug

[dire fulcrum]

What is the best gun in ron rn ?

[stone bay]

nahh someone blew my face open lmao the stinger didnt work

[ionic gale]

There’s really no meta in this game

[gaunt gale]

Of course there is

It's the SA58 and Magnum

[ionic gale]

[gaunt gale]

[ionic gale]

I don’t know if this is a weird bug or maybe a actual feature but civilians that push you uh

You can kill them and there’s no point reduction LOL

[stone bay]

SA58 supremacy. JHP only

Maximum firepower for maximum fun

[stone bay]

Assault on an officer requires delicate usage of a 5.56 round in the forehead.

[ionic gale]

[stone bay]

Lets say, if 4 people were to taze 1 man. Would it be possible that by high voltage i cause this man to have a heart attack and die? Is it a feature?

If done through many tazer mags per person

[low valve]

Is everything okay? Do you want to talk about something? What color are your feelings? 😂

Just joking, I also love small, realistic details (as well as the water tanks that lose water), but that's often just unnecessary work for the developers that no one would appreciate or that hardly anyone notices (unfortunately)

[stone bay]

The smallest of details really matter to me. If a gunman or civilian wasnt budging and if tou accidentally tazed him one too many times he could enter an incapacitated/dead state and i think it would be a great detail to see

[jolly verge]

Taser deal 1 damage, regular suspect have 320 health, so you need taze him 160 times to incap and another 160 to kill

[stone bay]

[jolly verge]

sometimes they can fake death from taser as well

[stone bay]

So i could reanimate him from his fake death

[noble pasture]

First I got caught mid arrest animation, second the game crashed

Not taking the mid arrest suspect jumping from around the corner bs

[zenith glacier]

on Narcos the .357 has literally no effect on the cartel members, even if you empty a whole AP pack of them,so yeah, Fiveseven >>>

[gaunt gale]

Provably incorrect, I got my A rank running my cowboy setup

[ionic gale]

7.62x51mm is the correct choice for that map ngl

It’s what those assholes get for torturing one of our boys

[stone bay]

.300BLK is also a reliable one i've found

[edgy anchor]

wtf do i do when it comes to Elephant

[stone bay]

7.62 is still the strongest fuckin bullet in the game currently either way so it's always a viable choice

[lone raven]

Most def. That's what I run.

[noble pasture]

Hey, can you tell me how that meth head knew I was arresting his budy to shoot me in the middle of the animation?

[edgy anchor]

crack probably

[stone bay]

new PDW is the goat

[noble pasture]

I swear on god the corner looked clear, and the milisecond I arrest he shows up

[lone raven]

Haven't checked the new guns. Gotta try.

[noble pasture]

I have

[gaunt gale]

Literally RNG

[noble pasture]

So alt f4'ing to save my ironman run from shit RNG is justifiable

[edgy anchor]

chat i have a question

[lone raven]

no, roll with the punches

[noble pasture]

Answer is yes

[noble pasture]

Fuck you mean roll with the punches? That was mission 19 out of 21

[edgy anchor]

so i should still do my kill all run on Elephant and Neon Tomb

[noble pasture]

Suspects? Yeah, civies? No

[stone bay]

do whatever your heart desires

[edgy anchor]

too late you already said yes

[noble pasture]

Nooo

[lone raven]

"Yeah, civies" - Luna, 2024

[noble pasture]

My cat says hi

[edgy anchor]

i will become the bigger fish with the big iron on their hip

[stone bay]

my man

[noble pasture]

I am a cat guy

[stone bay]

i loe doggos as much as kats, unbiased

[noble pasture]

I grew up with a cat, on second one now

[lone raven]

Dude, my house has 6 cats 2 dogs.

My wife is cat mad.

[stone bay]

i had a cat who passed away recently back when i lived with my mom in France. Now i think i'm looking to get a dog, perhaps a German Sheperd

[noble pasture]

From experience, dogs are harder to take care of when they get old

I have a 16 yo stray who survived cancer and now her legs are giving up on her

[stone bay]

they need more outside stuff and walks every day. i just wanna have a runnig buddy or sumn tbh. get us both some air

[noble pasture]

Need to help my dog get up

[stone bay]

they are def more fragile than cats

do JHP rounds just budge into the person's skull? there's no exit wound it seems

[noble pasture]

Nope, go through like hot knife through cheese

Skulls make poor JHP round stoppers

[stone bay]

hmm, there's no proper splatter from what i see. the round doesnt break unpon entering so that might be why? im not rlly a ballistic expert

[noble pasture]

And turn target's brain into smoothy cause it thumbles

[noble pasture]

Most likely dev oversight, but yeah, only way to make a bullet stop in a skull is .22 lr

[loud whale]

Loadouts still bugged for anyone else? I'm playing in safe mode (no mods) and all my presets show 11/11 slots but I cant change ammo types or anything

[noble pasture]

Or poor quality 9mm

[stone bay]

imma test out AP rounds and see if there's any splatter on walls. idk why JHP wouldnt tho

JHP expands on impact so surely it would do so

maybe Visceral blood mod issue?

AP does blood splats

[noble pasture]

Mod issue

[stone bay]

half mod issue, JHP does bloodsplats upon their deaths it seems...weird

[noble pasture]

I know JHP overpens skulls, I once shot a suspect in the head, and hit a civie with same bullet also in the head

[stone bay]

oof

[fresh mauve]

I don't know if it got worse after the update, but the enemy ai is really pissing me off. It feels like the game got back to an alpha stage. E.g. my friend and I were playing ,,lawmaker" in less lethal. He put a whole magazine of pepperballs into the enemys face and I put like 6 less lethal shotgun shots into him and he just wouldn't surrender and we both would end up getting shot. Another instance, now lethal, we shot 1,5 magazines of 9mm and .556 into the chest of the enemy. He would neither surrender, nor would he die. He just had a normal plate carrier on, in no reality the aggressor would have still shot at us and harm us massively. It just destroys the whole game experience

[loud whale]

I watched DevilDogGamer's playthrough of the Narco's map, and even he was getting shot at through half the level by unseen enemies

Shit looked frustrating as hell

[stone bay]

i think the issue is that the AI can see us when we cannot (Neon tomb with 2F windows). they should try to restrain the Ai from obstruction there or only react if there's a flashflight

[shy pollen]

I'm helping a pal through S rank for steam achievements and I can only recommend you go into every enclosed area leading with stingers or flashes. Grenade + beanbag almost always works for me.

[tacit gull]

Did you shout for compliance after shooting him with pepper?

Normally one beanbag shot will pacify any suspect regardless of armor or location shot

[drowsy oak]

I was on the mission "Relapse" and the the guy that needs to be arrested, had taken a hostage. How are you supposed to arrest him without risking him killing the hostage? Do you have to flash/stinger and just have the hostage get injured?

[shy pollen]

Yeah, always shout. I spam it while they mosey through their stun animations or stumble around. When it ends after a few seconds, they (((usually))) give up.

[high oxide]

is wedge issue fixed?

[dense quest]

How many flashbangs do you guys think a swat officer carries irl

Assuming they're the only grenades they have

Basically I'm asking how many grenades can a swat officer fit on themselves

[orchid phoenix]

15 minimum

[dense quest]

A single officer can carry 15 grenades?

[shy pollen]

Depends on how many they want to take with them. Something games stress on that doesn't equate to reality.

Like, I don't stuff flashbangs or magazines in the same pouches. But for game balance they limit things relative to what you need.

[dense quest]

Yeah I'm kinda asking with a purpose of adding realism in the game

Like how heavy are grenades in general and how many could a single officer carry that doesn't make it too inconvenient

[lone raven]

They're light.

[shy pollen]

Realism? I mean. It's a hard thing to say as far as what would up the scale of realism to the game. As far as just wanting to get the numbers right, I would look it up on their site or just check out picture of them. Grenades aren't incredibly heavy yeah but I wouldn't think there's a set standard like game loadouts.

[dense quest]

Well there's already no realism in clearing an entire mansion as a 2 man team 😂 but I often feel like we don't have enough flashbangs for some maps and saw that there are mods that add more slots

[shy pollen]

I don't have a background in law enforcement, but a family member did and I don't remember seeing SWAT have them just, on. They were carried in vehicles and in containers. Not hooked to their vests or anything. *To clarify I spent a lot of time around law enforcement and got to see a lot of police and swat go on calls.

There wouldn't be any "realism" issue with upping the grenade cap as a real officer could simply decide to carry a dozen flashbangs or w/e on his person.

[dense quest]

So it's not unrealistic to be able to carry like 10 nades? Weight and space wise etc

[shy pollen]

I think flashbangs weigh less than a pound so yeah easily. It's a space thing more than weight. If you really care about that you could headcanon it that you just keep a bunch in a dump pouch.

[small raft]

hey guys, what is the default FoV Settings, 90?

[lone raven]

You'd be surprised how much stuff teams can carry.

[dense quest]

Alright thanks for the insight

[bitter mason]

I believe so

[small raft]

mh

[dense quest]

Yeah I can imagine how much they'd being because safety first and whatnot I was just wondering how many a single officer could realistically carry without being too weighed down or not having enough space

[edgy aspen]

We need the launchers to break glass with the projectile I can throw a bang or gas in the window it breaks launch it and it bounces off which is frustrating as it's the use for it to fire in then breach

[dense quest]

If me and my wife carry 10 bangs each it would be enough and convenient for us for big maps like lawmaker

[lone raven]

Like, if you had back panels--you could get a row of flashbangs there alone. Kangaroo pouch for more. Front pouches for more.

[shy pollen]

It's not unlike the military. For my own protection in hostile environments I carried 6 magazines for an M4 and I was Air Force. My grandfather was a Marine in Vietnam and carried 20, 20 round magazines, a "backpack of explosives," and an M79 grenade launcher, with a LBV full of grenades. Not always, but it's the mission that dictates things like this. Not a form of standard loadout.

[rare estuary]

Mods

[lone raven]

But if the mission was a contained scene, say one motel room. Would you take 10 flashbangs? 😂

[dense quest]

Yeah I was asking before getting the gunfighter mod

[lone raven]

I think you're good to go with 2 people, a mansion, and however many you want flashes.

[dense quest]

Yeah as 2 ppl clearing a mansion we should be allowed to carry 100 bangs 😂

[shy pollen]

Yeah they're not heavy at all. I got to hold them a few times of different times and models. But they've all felt that light.

[lost ridge]

The game is balanced around having a full 5 man team. you're already at a disadvantage with only 2 people so having as many bangs as you want isn't a big deal.

[shy pollen]

I'll say, no game will ever come close to how loud those things are.

[dense quest]

Damn I wonder how much weight all that was putting on your grandfather

[lone raven]

Shame they have no 9-bangs.

[dense quest]

Yeah I guess I wanted confirmation from others lol but thanks everyone

I already finished the game with my wife with a 3 flashbang each setup anyway but I think it's more fun to rely on tactics and bangs than my shooting skills etc

[shy pollen]

He was 1371, demolitions, so he could carry a load of stuff like that yeah. LAW rocket launchers, det cord with explosive compound, etc. etc. He said at times you would have a half-filled pack on top of another if it was stuff you needed. Or you'd try to split it off as best you could.

[lost ridge]

I would just think of it as distributing the resources you would have had in a full team between you and your teammate. It doesn't make much of a difference who throws the grenade. If Void didn't intend for you to have 40 bangs at your disposal they wouldn't give you 5 players with 15 slots.

[dense quest]

(I used gas nades too but flashbangs are cooler to me)

[shy pollen]

On the opposite side of that coin, a SWAT officer that doesn't need flashbangs wouldn't carry them.

[lone raven]

VOID WANTS US TO FLASH EVERY ROOM TWICE

[shy pollen]

Idgas what void wants. I flash every room twice.

[dense quest]

Damn sounds like demoman from tf2 lmao

[bitter mason]

flashbangs can often just not work so

[dense quest]

Yeah that makes sense, I can think of it as having 15 slots times 5

I don't like the launcher tbh cuz it doesn't give you time to prepare before breaching (as a solo use)

[shy pollen]

I can't get the AI to use the M320 Flash right, almost ever. I also can't get the Deploy to work so I just give them shields or breach shotguns. And stock them up on throwables.

[dense quest]

And also because you can't bounce it off of walls

[shy pollen]

I prefer impact, personally

[dense quest]

yeah they suck at tossing too

[shy pollen]

Minus the bathroom-to-backroom area of Neon Tomb, or the S bend hallways of the hotel, I usually just want them to drop a flash right in the middle of the room and let my guns do the rest of the work.

[bitter mason]

shout out to when the launchers didnt effect the player

[dense quest]

I also feel that way sometimes

I swear I threw a flashbang into a small bathroom a few days ago and the suspect was not affected

[shy pollen]

They just blast it into whatever piece of furniture or wall surface is right in front of the door. I.e. the bookcases and pillars in the hotel.

For the life of me I can't understand the almost RNG nature of seeing the Deploy command show up in my command menu.

[lone raven]

People eating flashes isn't hard to believe.

It might be an intended effect?

[shy pollen]

Eaating? How close are we talking? Flash bangs aren't fireworks.

[bitter mason]

it happens, dont think its intentional, flashbangs can easily be blocked by peices of cover and it sucks

[dense quest]

I feel like crackheads could tank flashbangs from all the bs and adrenaline

[lone raven]

And tank a few more 556 zipping through their skinny bodies. 🤣

[bitter mason]

I dont think anyone should be able to tank flashbangs purely for gameplay
its really annoying banging a room and just having someone inside it not affected at all

[shy pollen]

https://i.imgur.com/CH2STAB.jpeg
Here's a screenshot, and funny gameplay where I just had them chuck the flashbang right there in the hall instead of to the right where the perp was that was already shooting at me.

[dense quest]

yeah I mean I've seen police bodycams of crackheads actually tanking like 10 bullets while still running

eventually they collapse and die of course

[shy pollen]

I get that nonlethal is the challenge, but other than achievement hunters, if the automatic rifle I'm carrying is easier/safer to use than the grenade, I'm using the automatic rifle.

[dense quest]

not 556 bullets but still crazy

[shy pollen]

It's not about how many times you are hit, it's where you're hit.

[lone raven]

For player expectations, it makes sense that the equipment just works as they would want. I get that.

[bitter mason]

yeah
I think this is really the problem with the game rn
Theres a clear line between lethal and less lethal runs
If you have lethal weapons you might aswell shoot most suspects because they're all super aggressive anyways

[shy pollen]

That's my problem. Here is me aiming my shotgun into a room I want the flash deployed. The context of the command menu doesn't allow it.

[fresh mauve]

I die several times and even left him some time to surrender

[dense quest]

of course but since the couple bodycams I saw the suspects do collapse and die at the end it makes me believe they were hit in vital areas but the drugs and adrenaline kept them going for a bit

whereas a normal person probably would've dropped immediately

[shy pollen]

No reactions in this channel smh. I agree with this fully. I wouldn't bother ever taking nonlethal if there is a single piece of lethal kit on my officers.

[bitter mason]

when it comes to a game however, having suspects randomly eat 10 shots and potentially gun you down in the process wont be very fun and isnt good feedback

[lone raven]

Wound ballistics.

[shy pollen]

It's rather unfortunate. What I want in my head to happen in that screenshot is for one of my men to come up to where I am standing and toss a flash in there. Not stack up on the open door where the man is waiting to kill them, then play out the throw.

[lone raven]

It's the study of why that happens.

[shy pollen]

I don't wanna be the SwAt 4 AlReAdY HaD tHis but I bring it up because it can work.

[lone raven]

I guess, again, it comes down to expectations. A person new to this whole genre might be confused their 'bullets aren't working'.

[bitter mason]

yeah
I tend to still take lethals and try to get arrests since thats usually how I prefer to play. But even still most levels end with majority of suspects killed, mainly because grenades are too limited to use freely in the larger levels and sometimes can just not work
suspects never really run away without firing at you first. They rarely make use of hiding spots and will just unload on you with surprising accuracy whilst sprinting full speed.

[dense quest]

I gave one of my ai pepperball for the dorms map, and of course he died 💀

[lone raven]

I do lethal priority, no evidence collection as standard.

[shy pollen]

The only place I've ever used pepperball satisfactorily is on my AI during my S rank run in the post office. Never else have I liked/used them by choice.

It's like beanbag shotgun but you like wasting ammo.

[dense quest]

I think SMGs are good in that they pretty often don't kill the suspect and they either surrender or are incapacitated at least

[bitter mason]

friendly fire -30

[shy pollen]

Another big SWATism. I liked the strategy over the gunfight. If I don't have to raise my weapon I feel like I did a good job. Crossmapping crims with beanbags while they whittle my arm HP on post office doesn't give me that feeling.

[dense quest]

I keep getting friendly fire -0 idk why

[bitter mason]

yep
another big issue is map design
void like their open bot unfriendly spaces

[dense quest]

oh that could explain it yeah

[dense quest]

yeah man post office gave me nightmare cuz I played it when the ai was still mega cracked

[shy pollen]

I'm okay with the variety personally, just that there's little to no nonlethal that can deal with it. CS grenades are almost just peek/area denial. I shoot it at the catwalks and corners I think enemies may peek on but I'd never use it to clear a room minus Ides of March.

[dense quest]

the only way I beat it was running shield and having my ai team behind me with blackout rifles

they did most the killing

[shy pollen]

Here's one. You spawn rooftop on the hotel with all nonlethal. How do you get down the fire escape if there's a spawn in the window hallway? (You can't lol)

[lone raven]

Jeez.

[dense quest]

oh damn I never had that happen lmao

[shy pollen]

Like yeah I have to pick another spawn since there's 3 but if you're new to the map you just take the loss or even lose someone. Yeah just happened to me today.

[dense quest]

also rooftop spawn is the best anyway because of the beautiful view

[shy pollen]

4 bb shotties, no pistol ammo because AI will draw them, spawned roof and lost two officers coming down the fire escape to the visible window about 20m away.

[bitter mason]

I think something they really need to do is add some less lethals into long tactical
give us a tac700 pepperball or something like it
And a sawn off beanbag shotgun
They both can have their upsides and downsides and be a reliable less lethal option without sacrificing your primary or needing to use up points for a taser

[lone raven]

Mass killing downstairs, beautiful view upstairs.

[dense quest]

exactly

[shy pollen]

SWAT had a TON of nonlethal kit. I'd love to see the Enfield launcher in RoN

ARWEN 37, as it's named.

[bitter mason]

elevator entry is my personal fave for sins of the father, get access instantly to either floor, wedge one door and clear one floor then the next

[dense quest]

yeah it's probably the best one

[shy pollen]

That's how I completed it. Def the most safe/effecient way.

[bitter mason]

I do really like Swat 4 SEF's equipment system, using weight and bulk rather than limiting it to points

[dense quest]

I completed it 3 times and I only used rooftop tbh for no specific reason other than forgetting to change it

btw is brisa cove's alternate spawn point still broken?

[shy pollen]

I think a weight system would compliment RoN's more gunfight-oriented gameplay style too.

[dense quest]

I feel like a weight system shouldn't be hard to mod into the game

[shy pollen]

Full body kevlar with 10 tubes worth of 12g doesn't weigh the same as the same armor with 5 magazines of pepperball, a lockpick gun, and some wedges.

[dense quest]

oh shoot it works now? istg it would make the map so much easier

the default spawn point is so ass

[bitter mason]

Someone did mention there already is left over weight values for some equipment. So it seems it was planned or atleast experimented with at some point

[dense quest]

interesting

[rocky thunder]

F90 mentioned! That is my tryhard gun. It just does so much damage and it feels so smooth. On practice mode if I failed a mission twice it was clips when I changed the loadout to the F90

[shy pollen]

Sounds like the fossils of PvP :^)

[bitter mason]

SEF's system was nice tho
Weight = movement speed
Bulk = action speed (lockpicking, placing C2 ETC)
Let you really pack as much as you wanted for the cost of clearing a level fast, which was important for some levels since injured civilians could die if you took to long forfeiting the "all civilians unharmed" bonus

[bitter mason]

yeah the second entry is actually really good

[lone raven]

So your breacher can be a bulk slow boy putting his charge on the door, lol.

[bitter mason]

yup

but also if you just dont take anything but a pistol and remove all armour, you can pick locks in like 2 seconds lol
though its not super viable

[lone raven]

Lockpicking Lawyer style.

[shy pollen]

You could distribute the kit out too. Or have your lightest carry a charge and grenades he uses first so he’s completely unhindered.

[lone raven]

Exactly.

[shy pollen]

Like drop tanks on a fighter lol

[lone raven]

Pointman can be Usain Bolt.

[bitter mason]

Magazines for different weapons also had different weight values I believe aswell as of course the weapon itself. So taking an SMG was much lighter than a long rifle.
Ready or not doesnt really feel like theres much point in taking SMGs other than roleplay value. The magazines are just as limited as a rifles despite being lighter

[dense quest]

I like SMGs cuz they have a higher chance of incapacitating a suspect instead of killing

and sometimes they just surrender from it

you can do that with a pistol too I guess

[bitter mason]

I suppose SMGs have more firepower than pistols

but really I dont see much point incapping over killing, of course theres more points but I never feel the score matters unless you're going for an S rank

[sour fulcrum]

if Daniela Vol decides it's time to beat the hell out of me will i get unauthorized use of force for politely introducing her head to my suppressorless shotgun?

[dense quest]

depending on the mission I feel morally better if they're not dead like in dorms as of recent

[bitter mason]

finally, a RON player with sympathy

I do find it harder to feel bad when suspects are just so utterly insane as they are now

[lone raven]

Sympathetically shoot the legs.

[bitter mason]

oops severed artery

[lone raven]

Sympathetically shoot again.

[sour fulcrum]

that's interesting

well i wouldn't say her fists are deadly the only thing she hurt was my self steem

[dense quest]

yeah ultimately I don't really feel much sympathy for any of the suspects even in ends of the earth because like okay sure you turned to illegal stuff because the law is fucking you over and costing you shittons of money for your mother's treatment but you're still a piece of shit for trying to kill officers who have lives and wives and kids etc

if they made it so that the suspects in ends of the earth surrender very easily that would be so much better for the narrative

[mellow valve]

how do i make a .bank music mod

[dense quest]

I get it that they want the game to be fun but I think it's fine if a few missions were more on the peaceful side and I think swat 4 did that

[zinc fractal]

i just download the mod aks but it aint on my outfit

[mellow valve]

is there a guide

[mellow valve]

Antagonization through indirect exposure is one hell of a drug

[bitter mason]

that level was done so dirty, the tran brothers should really hide and run rather than fight you with SMGs and shotguns
its pretty silly

[zinc fractal]

the mod just came out today

[dense quest]

yeah or like consistently resist arrest and punch you etc but not full out spraying you down with automatic weapons

[bitter mason]

exactly

the game doesnt really understand how to make suspects sympathetic
if you arrest the shooters on elephant some of their voice lines they're on the verge of tears just saying things like "Alone..." and "Nowhere to go..." Like huh? am I meant to feel bad for these guys? Just strange out of place voice lines
I know mental issues can lead people to horrible stuff like this but I really doubt just being depressed will lead you to shooting up your fucking school

[noble pasture]

So I plan to beat ironman without mods. What guns are foolproof?

Too little ammo

[bitter mason]

if you can handle the recoil SA58 will put people down in pretty much one shot

[swift glade]

Arn18 also very reliable with the 300 blackout

[noble pasture]

My actual accuracy is bad, I once made a suspect surrender by missing 5 shots near his head. I really wanted to kill him but missed

[dense quest]

yeah nah school shooters are most likely if not 100% of the time psychopaths or at least sociopaths etc

[bitter mason]

yup

[noble pasture]

Scar is 5.56

[dense quest]

honestly just the blackout rifles, with a foregrip and brake attachment for the least upwards recoil

[swift glade]

Yep, ARN consistently 2 shot drops just about anyone

[dense quest]

I overall recommend the ARN because it's also shorter

[noble pasture]

What about F90?

[swift glade]

If by F90 you mean ARN then yes

[noble pasture]

Or ARN does more damage?

[dense quest]

F90 has very little upwards recoil but might take an extra bullet to drop someone cuz it's not blackout

it might actually have the least upwards recoil out of all rifles

[swift glade]

Arn hits harder than the f90 because of the larger round with subsonic

So moves a bit slower but being bigger you're basically firing a minivan out of a cannon instead of smart car

[dense quest]

I think you reversed it at the end there 💀

[swift glade]

What you mean the blackout is a heavier round hence the minivan vs smart car

[dense quest]

I think you meant to write firing a cannon out of a minivan

[swift glade]

300 was the minivan 556 is the smart car 🤣

[dense quest]

oh okay so it's a cannon that fires cars

[swift glade]

Hahha look it was a fast and loose example 🤣

[dense quest]

I'm gonna assume you've been around cannons that fire cars and truthfully I am jealous of that 😂

[noble pasture]

I seen JHP doesn't matter for rifles, so run AP to deny armor?

JHP only does 10 extra damage and some bleed chance

[swift glade]

I've only ever run AP

[swift glade]

Hahaha I wish

[noble pasture]

I tried to run JHP but it seems to only be able to pen windows, wooden doors stop it

[dense quest]

I only run AP too I never really saw a point in JHP

[noble pasture]

Give bots NVG's?

[dense quest]

it does a bit more damage to unarmored suspects / limbs and it penetrates less to avoid hitting civillians through walls but I don't think that happens often

[swift glade]

For your ironman run I highly recommend team comp of negotiator, intimidator, armourer and breacher

[dense quest]

I think bots see in the dark without NVGs but I'm not sure

[noble pasture]

Will look out for 2 negotiators, 1 armorer and 1 vet

[noble pasture]

They flip them on nowadays

[swift glade]

Vets kinda pointless since team AI aim is cracked anyway

[dense quest]

probably just give the bots the ballistic mask cuz I feel like flashbangs and gas doesn't affect them either but I might be wrong and I also haven't played with bots much since they updated them recently

[swift glade]

With neg and intimidator you basically get surrender from across the map

And breacher means any door breach drastically drops morale, that paired with the intim and negotiator its basically and instant surrender on breach

[noble pasture]

Shotgun open every closed door?

Or swap it out for c2 charges?

[dense quest]

I think it applies to kicking doors too

[opaque meadow]

did something break? enemies appear and disappear from my screen like their render distance is super low.

[swift glade]

I had across the whole team, ram , shotty, shield, mirror and a launcher

[dense quest]

I have that happen to me too but only when they're dead I think

[noble pasture]

I don't think AI can run shields right, they keep turning their back on the enemy

[swift glade]

Also had c2 and wedges across the team along with flashes obviously

[swift glade]

Nah runs shield effectively now, and auto takes point on breach

Can also deploy via command shield use in open areas if you wanna micro manage to that degree

[noble pasture]

Hmm

For me swat AI either overextends or exposes their sides

[hasty peak]

this is true

[swift glade]

Oh really? I haven't had any issues (that I've noticed) used them for S / S+ ranks as well

[noble pasture]

Trust the wand in the hand of a bot?

They count arrested suspects as just suspects

[swift glade]

I was the wand lacky

[swift glade]

Me wand - ai got ram, breach shotty, shield, launcher

I like the wand to make sure I'm gonna c2 a door into someone's face

[noble pasture]

Wait, wouldn't I want a 5.56 so I incap people instead of killing them?

[swift glade]

Depends if you're going for S or not, then you're better off going non lethal

[noble pasture]

No. I am going lethal

[swift glade]

Then 300 blackout

But the team comp I mentioned before is a big help for getting surrenders so S is possible

[noble pasture]

Problem is killing suspects tanks morale for officers

[swift glade]

Nah I never loose morale on completed missions (if they don't get fucked up)

[jolly verge]

Incap count as kill for stress

so it's does not matter, just take usual 2 negotiator and that will pretty much always offset stress

take any rifles you like, the only difference will be with 5.56 AP on lethal obsession, you will need 3 torso shot for incap, any other map is always 2 shot to incap

1 shot for sa58 on some maps

[noble pasture]

Fuck it, will give bots AP SA-58, over penetration be damned

And AP Five Sevens

When you want to put a whole in a guy and the guy behind him

[swift glade]

[orchid phoenix]

thanks arthur for having a little faith

[soft geode]

I got a popup saying thank you for purchasing the DLC but I didnt

[bitter mason]

bug

[drowsy oak]

in the patch notes, known problem

[soft geode]

alright

[rare estuary]

@violet oxide artur

[violet oxide]

Yes?

[rare estuary]

When will you red dead redempt all over the place

[tranquil kindle]

why the hell do i need to pay for the new maps

[umbral oar]

Cuz

[rare estuary]

It's called a dlc

[lilac tendon]

whos this watchmen guy i keep running in to

[stone bay]

someone who....watches men?

[lilac tendon]

nah its the guy whos preaching over a mic

[stone bay]

oh that guy. ignore him or kick him or just join a diff game

[ionic gale]

He is a Christian person that is just ranting and ranting about stuff and not actually starting the game

He’s pretty infamous here in this game’s community,

hell I heard he’s even other games like Lethal company or other games that require a host to start the game

[lilac tendon]

the issue is hes the leader of a lobby so every so often youre put into games with him until you leave lmao

[lilac tendon]

its so irritating lmao 😂

[ionic gale]

I think Sixty Eight Whiskey made a good video on him

[frail pier]

If ingame menu worked he wouldn't be an issue💀

[ionic gale]

Whiskey talked about how this dude is trying to preach Christianity in the wrong way

Except the kind of falls flat on its ass when you start saying that people who celebrate Easter or Christmas are going to be going to heck

[frail pier]

It's not even the actual dude. Its some random playing that guys videos

[cloud fox]

i'm playing the commander mode again and for some reason i don't have any of the cosmetics unlocked anymore?

[ionic gale]

Also, I can’t even join games right now

[frail pier]

Public? Oh my

[ionic gale]

There should be nothing wrong with my ear and that, but I can’t find any servers that have acceptable ping

[frail pier]

That happens

[ionic gale]

Are any of you guys having problems?

There should be nothing with my Internet, but it just doesn’t find a server

[stone bay]

biggest issue is that by trying to preach, he unconditionally makes people hate religion. i'm not religious but spitting on it that way or even worse, using RoN for that isnt good

[frail pier]

Nah I typically stay away from public lobbies unless I'm intentionally joining watchmen to fuck with him.

Ingame menu starts working again I can go back on patrol for that fucker.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I agree with that

Like I said whiskey made a video on the dude and it’s a good watch on the dude talk about his thoughts about the dude and just preaching through video games as a whole

[stone bay]

i wanna stray away and maybe find some folks to run with. randos are the worst i've seen lmao. they either are my ebst tactical buddies or just speedrun the map and dont have fun

[frail pier]

This.. I don't care if you wanna voice your opinion or whatever you believe in. But this is basically the same as shutting down highways for protests imo.

The second you start messing with people or inconveniencing others you become a literal moron to me.

[stone bay]

agreed. just stop oil would be a fantastic company to have at NATO or sumn to talk about how to limit gas emissions. but no, the followers just stain the rep with highway protests or trying to ruin paintings (for some reason)

[frail pier]

Exactly

Or smashing businesses and looting that had nothing to do with what you're protesting about. What a time in our lives.

[ionic gale]

Also, I think that’s just an excuse to steal shit LOL

[frail pier]

It is... just a horrible scapegoat

[stone bay]

it's fine to protest, but violent protests have never been a solution. all it does is increase the unlikelyhood of action with said company

[ionic gale]

These people are doing very unethical or irritating things to prove a point

[stone bay]

if you wanna make a difference get into NATO or any leading World ORG and find strategies

[dense quest]

Ironically I feel a similar way with vegans

A good ethical humane message turned into an annoyance for people by dumbasses who try to force others

[stone bay]

Vegan influencers always take it too far. it's porven that meat has the essentials to develop a child's brain to allow them to grow fully functional. taking that away may cause serious issues. It's also that animals actually help humans create all there is around. without animals, i doubt agriculture could go far

[silk junco]

i love las vegas

[dense quest]

My view on it is that I only buy from small farms that treat animals well

I don't have an issue with the idea of eating a chicken or cow but rather how they're treated

[silk junco]

oh wait you said vegan

[dense quest]

Well I do have an issue and feel bad but I know that we're omnivores and it's not really avoidable

[agile topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-gamble-gambler-old-man-addiction-gif-13539663578305331391

[ionic gale]

les go gambl

[agile topaz]

i always hit on 18 in black jack

[stone bay]

LMAO💀

[stone bay]

i also prefer buying more local. i eat meat more rarely since i kinda dont enjoy it as much (i also kinda hate the fact that my dad is vegetarian and he made me veggie eater lol) but when thinking abt it it's kinda cannibalistic to eat other beings. still tastes good tho

[agile topaz]

its just nature tho theyll die or get eaten one way or another also cannibalistic is when you eat your own species eating others is carnvirous

[remote gulch]

for the Beat Cop achievement, can we use a shield?

[stone bay]

yeah that's true. it's not inheritenly bad to eat other beings since that's how he live but i can understand the point Vegetarians make of not eating another and it's totally fine.

[agile topaz]

no i dont think so im not entirely sure, i know for the way out west you can only use a revolver while your teammates/ ai can use anything so id assume its the same for the beat cop

[remote gulch]

yeah the description is ambiguous for Beat Cop, only mentions launchers and grenades

[agile topaz]

yes i can completely understand why they think that way granted its really just a lifestyle for better off people you wouldnt have seen this 200 300 400 plus years ago since food wasnt a commodity as it is for most today but what i cant get behind are the dumbass protests that do nothing but make them look like idiots and hurt their cause especially people like that vegan teacher

[stone bay]

or that new Vegan idiotic prodigy. the Aussie one. apparently she got banned from living in perth cuz she was harrassing folks LOL

[agile topaz]

yes her too theyre fucking morons that vegan teacher specifically i know got caught doing something crazy cant remember what though

[stone bay]

she's a tad lot crazy in le head

[ionic gale]

I have a theory that this may be just a big conspiracy just to get people to not like veganism

I don’t hate vegans. It’s just like when you start spewing the animal genocide at me because I’m having a burger yeah I’m going to make fun of you

[mint falcon]

chicken nuggies creator should get a noble

[stone bay]

Vegans could be the nicest folk you meet, what i hate are the ones who deepthroat you with their ideals

[frail pier]

Stagger animations broken? JHP is causing suspects on hit to freeze half the time. Idk if anyone else has noticed. Or has that been a known issue? I don't use JHP often.

[mint falcon]

no you misunderstand the jhp are freezing them alive
[first time i see something like this, hope this gains traction]

[frail pier]

Lmaooo. But in all seriousness I don't recall it ever happening. At least this consistently.

[ionic gale]

Public lobbies for me or just not even loading

[jade apex]

Wedges are perfect

[mint falcon]

wedges are the most control giving thing RoN gives you

like you see a door? well you don't anymore because now it's unaccessable fuck you random terrorist man #345

[ionic gale]

All of my SWAT dudes run the MK18 as their own riflss

our standard side arm is the M11 (Sig Sauer P229)

[pallid quarry]

imagine how cool it would be if there was a sniper element in RoN

[ionic gale]

Yee

[pallid quarry]

only works outdoors though or areas with windows

[ionic gale]

I’m going to try finally beating Narcos

[pallid quarry]

home invasion looks harder and laggier than the main campaign... homeless men lighting up my guys with just pistols

[ionic gale]

They’re trying to torture one of our own, and if these Narcos do not surrender in 0.000000033 nanoseconds, they’re going to fucken die

[ionic gale]

I completed dorms rn

[pallid quarry]

the only thing im glad is how they made a black version of the lspd long sleeve shirt

one of my favorite apparel ingame because how cool the hand models look + appearance

[mint falcon]

ruining a family in 47 seconds https://youtu.be/SVxLtpqAt5A

[stone bay]

i love the new shirts tbh. the Red flash of the US flag looks dope

[pallid quarry]

I honestly never bothered looking at anything else but that shirt

Long sleeves my beloved

[ionic gale]

Even though it’s pretty minimal, I do like the new vest

I actually run it as my main plate carrier because I like it that much