#👮ron-discussion
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it still would make much more sense to change the ammo type per map to match the story
would be nice
Like security guards using Hollow points more than anything
crack heads with AP or hell even FMJ sounds stupidlly ridiculous
are HPs cheaper?
Idk much about guuns im not american
what is the common walk into wallmart, ammo type in the us?
or gunshop, basicly whats the most common ammo for troublemakers. Gangs, Crack Heads, personal defense, etc
someone should of asked that in the AMA the other day 
Why players doesnt play wit CS gas ? tbh its seems really op considering it can take the whole room and incapacitate everyone in it
it can also act like a smoke screen when the ai choose not to cough
personally never experimented that
Didnt they fix the smoke issues with gas in one of the 1.0 hotfixes?
seems like its back.
I have seen suspect shoot though the bloody thing
yes but its not a knight helmet its still viable
They made the gas translucent, before you just couldnt see through it at all but the AI could
I dont think they changed anything with ai accuracy firing through the smoke
lmao, sad they miss the point tbh
i cannot be here this evening unfortunatly but dont hesitate to contact me if ya want
@weak mist
PvP is very much NOT cancelled, by the by
thanks for confirming that i was wrong
it will finish up as COD kid running everwhere facing of IRL veterans tryna to get their old days haha
from what i saw in PU games im aint sure if it will be worth it to play in public servers
seems hard to apply, prolly if the pvp is really coming players would do like Holdfast and play team v team
or psy system that unallow them to shot if overstressed or make them shot without control idk, theres a lot of possibilities but to my opinion, i aint sure RON pvp is a good idea
it would extend the niche for sure however i think they should work more on SP, they did great with 1.0 and commander mode
im surely too much pessimistic i would appreciate to test this even if im not hyped at all
i had a great time on it but sure the process of map order is questionnable
I mean, that's sorta' what's happening. 
The idea is to have a PvP mode that fits Ready or Not and that's taking time
pvp 200ms gameplay
Ngl Kaminsky
I want the PVE to be much more refined before they start doing anything PVP because if they do it too early, I feel like that’s just gonna make people flock away or something to this mode
I don’t know but I feel like that at the PVE may get overshadowed by this new PVP mode when it happens possibly
If it does happen in some way, well then I guess I’m a fucking psychic then 
I’m not saying that I hate the PVP mode It’s just I feel like that if they don’t do it properly, it’s going to flop 
I think pvp is doomed to fail anyway. Some want an extremely realistic experience where you can even arrest the other side, others just want to shoot. Then others want realistic balancing, others want fair balancing and so on 😄
Having a lot of trouble on Elephant S rank
if u want realistic pvp, buy bodycam
To be fair that's a the eternal fight with everything that's not Call of Duty, since that's completely jumped the shark
yes 😄
also, as a point of note, bodycam is also not realistic at all. It's a chunky, quickly produced asset flip that was made to jump on Unrecords hype
Bodycam is immersive, not realistic
"graphics, ragdolls - 99% players: SOO REALISTIC HOLY F*
I feel like you’d have to force/greatly enforce players to play as intended depending on what side/team on, and without that it never seems to go well, case in point RS2 Vietnam
Even though this PvP is a long weighted feature, I do see what some people are saying on how they don’t think how this is gonna farewell
Wasn’t this PVP mode way back in the alpha days almost the original vision of the game?
the idea was to always have pvp and pve
Ahh
when minigun in commander???
Honestly I feel like that if they’re going to implement PVP, it should be something along this lines of a rainbow six game
no, it should be it's own thing
What specific type of game? I’m not sure
Or maybe they can even go to classic swat 4 route
I can't s rank Elephant, suspects execute civies if a timer expires
you gotta do it really quick
i mean raid the shit out of the building
I think that’s one of the few maps where you can’t really walk all slow
split up your teams for seperate classrooms, go alone on some corridors
I mean, it makes sense for an active shooter scenario since you have to go in quick and eliminate the threats and deal with civis later
take the shotgun cuz it's better and only aim for the general stomach/legs area

Your a man of culture I see
i mean that's when you eliminate a possibility of killing
I luv shotguns
Ah excuse me, I can't fucking sprint
ah excuse me, fucking press space
and read what i've said about elephant
Low ready makes you a fair bit faster
Light jogging isn't sprinting :/
ah yes, running around in a fucking school with a bomb and active shooters, y'all smart
This game can’t really add sprinting because then it would kind of ruin the pace of the entire game I think
I know :/
😲 - We have banned them from our group 😄 but we are also quite extreme and don't actually want to fire a single shot
Well, at least in the game, I don’t think you can approach the mission all slow and such because there will be civilian deaths
y'know fuck it, MAKE THE GAME A FUCKING MOVEMENT SHOOTER
LET'S GO WARZONE 3.0
Ah, you guys aim for S rank?
gotta go fast. low ready/spacebar makes u sprint a little
All civilians and suspects need to be alive in order to get the s rank
We had S everywhere (except one map if I remember correctly). We try to approach it more in a role-playing style.
guys i haven't tried it yet but when you gave a beanbag shotgun to ai
how many times did they kill a op?
It happens
i gave them the rifles bc i dont trust them with that shotgun
Ahh, I’m not a part of any rp groups or anything like that lol
I’m also not that cracked at the game to start doing stuff like that, I play the game kinda casually with randoms usually
I am doing that but its never fast enough
do you guys drink coffee at the pd before rolling out on missions
be honest you get into a line
Yeah, it will require a few tries and a fair bit of luck. I’m sure.
on 8th retry
I even set up radio emulation for TS and then we sat in Teamspeak and someone also took over TOC and after we pressed the action button, we transmitted the information to TOC "ourselves" hahahahahahahaha
Try again, even harder 
turn any background music off, any civs around a suspect will make a panic noise, have to track the last guy down really fast. it took me way more tries than you think
also use search and secure
no no no, cuffed persons wont shut the fuck up, they do more noise than the loose ones
This is actually badass holy shit
yeah, i'm going ironman with normal guns, without caring about the grade, but the next playthrough of mine is on ironman ONLY S rank
tbh I probably restarted like 20 times before I got it
me on the hospital level be like:
lmao
daamn door kickers
I saw someone ingame doing this, what voice changer program u use?
Yes, that would be super cool, but it is very unrealistic that something like that would exist. 😄 We always had to deliberately act stupid and pretend we didn't know the maps.
I'm just checking
who had that idea? to make arrested a yapper?
hmm idk let's ask the real cops void intreview'd
Here are instructions (unfortunately in German), but step 3 is the download link and the pictures are enough for setting up if you need it https://swat-roleplay.de/Funkemulation/Vorbereitungen.pdf
wish your AI mates would talk back to them aswell
When underhand throwing tacs? Still crazy that's not a thing.
is it only for TeamSpeak? I'd love to try it on my ingame voip mic
as far as i know somethinkg like that only works with ts sadly (not sure)
ty anyway
I thought this was already a thing and I just forgot the button to do it lol
but maybe not
No it's not... right click would be a great button for it but it's not a feature yet
kinda surprising yea
Boy the amount of dingos who play swat to kill civs and throw the match is gonna be insane.... this idea does sound really cool though!
yeah sounds nice
But like I'm the amount of times I've played LFG it's a coin flip if I join someone who makes it their mission to kill every civ for some reason :/
A kind of traitor mode spontaneously comes to mind. Normal SWAT co-op and lots of harmless AI civilians. However, one of these civilians can be a player who can also draw a weapon 😄
can suspects see the laser of your gun?
Nope
At that point the damage will be done already. But maybe who knows.
I mean people join in public lobbies just to TK
CS is just bomb defusal though. This mode you're suggesting is a bit different.
well CS does have hostage rescue
Happens more than you think lol.
any idea when the next patch is?
but obvs bomb defuse is the most popular
cs hostage rescue is more like capture the flag with human animation model flag 😄
That's not a civilian then. That's a human shape made out of depleted uranium
okay, but can we also turn it into a hero shooter?
Tachanka turret when
aussie
No I am from America land of McDonald's
Has anything actually changed in the frequency of hostage taking? They used to be very rare for me. When I ran through the gas station to test it today, I had several at once, or was it a coincidence? 😄
Yeah they changed it and now taking hostage or hiding happening more frequently
niceeeeee 😄
got all achievement, about to abandon ron again for 4 or 5 months, or even until next dlc
ohhh does ur game work now? xd
New maps got me twerking
anyone else noticed the shooters on elephant are all snivelling little wimps when you arrest them?
feels really out of place
yes, it now runs absolutely error-free and smoothly. Since I only did very little on the computer today, I can narrow down relatively well what might have fixed it. I want to test this with a friend later, I have a concrete guess 😄
Hey I havent played for a while, whats the AI like nowadays?
im actually pissed what is this shit game design LOL
"11 minutes remaining"
"ENTRY TEAM THE TIMERS ARE APPROACHING ZERO!"
a minute passes and the entire school explodes and i'm dead??? hello??
I mean does it?
Put yourself in their place, they either expect to have a Hollywood getaway or "heroic" death after an epic standoff with the police, but get put face first on concrete and arrested to spend their lives in jail.
fuck elephant, shittiest map in the entire game
to be fair, it's a school shooting it's not supposed to be easy
brother it's not about being easy it's about being fun, and the game telling me that the timers have 11 minutes left on them and then promptly exploding isn't fun on an ironman save LOL
It starts at 30 bro, why is it taking you 19 minutes to clear it 😭
not sure why that even matters but i was taking it slow so as to not get gunned down, i'm running it with AI teammates that need constant micromanaging
just leave em at spawn lol
??????????????????
it's not even that?? i didn't let the timer run down, the timer said i had 11 minutes left and it still blew up LOL
what is this dogshit game design
Yes i understand what you're saying, i also understand you're complaining about micromanaging the bots
If you don't want to manage the bots leave them at spawn
i could not care less about the bots at this point, just the bomb somehow exploding
Run the map more aggressively then 🙏
are you dyslexic by any chance
...yeah
What is the soft objective in dorms? I have cleared the map 8 times now and I can’t find it.
that explains so much
on the stand in the back upstairs
so buddy thinks its appropriate to take 5 to clear one single room during a school shooting alrightttt
don't care about the civis, just there to complete the mission even if i get an F. pissed about the bomb exploding despite timer saying otherwise
deserved for not caring about the civs, the gods got mad at you
tnd
just run a mod that removes the bombs
What stand? There isn’t anything in or near the stairwells.
dawg what??
idk what it's called but the thing you put a book on to read it in front of people
Oh, a lecture
Yeah that thing thank you
I would have never gotten that. Thank you.
no worries dawg
guys. it can be a dumb question, but..
I bought the new dlc, but don’t know how to play those new maps…. on campaign…? any help??
you can play it on singleplayer practice mode or in multiplayer
I havent played for a long time how bad is the ai now?
Suspects? Still aimy
Swat? Still dumb
Hotel? Trivago
you need an ai mod
"No Crack For You" You can also get "Low Intensity" mod. It lowers suspect count. But it might bug Elephant from getting S rank since it can sometimes spawn only 2 suspects
Uhh, for AI? I don't know, look on "No Crack" nexus page
i used no crack for ai is too easy before hotfix 3
for aynthing really
Has different difficulties @mental bronze . Get Cracked Souls Overdose mode
Its No crack but reverts suspect aim to 1.0 levels and max numbers
ye
personally i dont use AI mods since hotfix 3 cuz i feel like theyre feasible enough now
Mod creator recommends getting also No Mercy mod since suspects will be cracked the fuck out
Hmm, I will use the Cracked Souls mod for multiplayer
rip or ai is my favorite
at most i might install some batshit insane stuff like cracked souls yes
rip or not?
or the ones that increase sus count
it makes it so suspects aim contextually so, crackheads have worse aim and veterans have great aim etc
btw vanilla AI technically does the same already
yeah but not as much, crackheads have really good aim in base game for no reason
methheads cant aim for shit meanwhile vets actually can
lol i had one guy fucking mag dump me twice (i think)
still survived somehow
No Crack Low Intensity - realistic
Cracked Souls-Overdose: GB's Veteran 30 bots setting
gentlemen do shotguns do anything against lvl4 amour?
enemies w/ body armoy will tank shotgun pellets from my experience but heres a neat trick:
shoot em in the legs. lmao
weiner shots work too
what about slugs?
No
cant comment on slugs because i dont use em at all (skill issue).
ah okay, I was thinking about giving one of my bots a shotty but ig it's better if I just don't use em
is it normal for the NPCs to insat dome you even when they aren;t looking at you or am i speacil wit that kind of unluck?
🏳️🌈 🏳️🌈 Blaincing🏳️🌈 🏳️🌈
why is this game so fun?
that was ment to be the spungbob rainbow meme
masochism
no, i mean it
its why i like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
how big is the july 26th update? i have 50gb free and its saying not enough space
Hi
It comes with the DLC maps and content so its like 56 gigs from what my frind told me
my bad original gangster. I didn;t know you where fresh liek that
Tell me, in the latest update READY OR NOT my game freezes in the first mission! How can this be solved?
did you try to varify the integrity of the files ?
had to delete another 50gb all for a 3gb update, fix ur shit devs!
Fix what ?
There are currently few known freezes/issues in the game, otherwise make a thread in #1265712033295372473
that i had to clear 100gb off my drive to download a literal 3gb update????
Have at it:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/sdk/uploading
Yes, Steam checked everything is fine
Or research how a generic delta patcher works with archives
Is it the same for you?
did "Way Out West" challenge and got A+ with only 1 hospitalised suspect
Bots had pepper guns so they got the arrests
Is the monument to the left of the spawn zone in the station a nod to SWAT 3? Resembles some of its later missions
Yes, specifically the last mission where you uh, stop a nuke
That's very cool. I like that!
The one with the M14? Yeah. Supposedly D platoon's old leader was in Swat 3.
we're stuck on the ides of march, there's one civvie we just can't find
is this a bug or is there some hidey hole other than the closets?
nvm we found the fucker
Checked the lift?
So, is anyone's game freezing after the update?
Yeah, mine too
they can get in there? we found him behind the storage racks next to the central room - thanks for the tip
Open lift yeah
The thing is that my game freezes completely! It needs to be closed.
Try to see if DX 11 or 12 makes it happen less
I wish there was a RON mod to add 000 buck to shotguns
more ammo types in general would be nice to have
Wish they had a pepperball pistol that could be used with a shield, that’d be nice
bring back the pepperball gun 
Man I wish I bought the supporter edition 
You were sent to an appropriate channel/forum a while ago.
Asking the same exact question several times won't really help you.
do i need strong ammo and ap rounds for the narcos map?
cant go wrong with ap iirc narcos dudes have some body armor
Can they help there?
Body armor and increased health :/
i somehow tanked 20 bullets on that map its definitely rough lmao
guys, how does a medic work?
Yes that's it. Very cool how they enshrined a game that inspired this one
Is there no RoN merch?
I mean if my officer gets shot then the medic will save him during the mission?
hey guys just wanted to ask if the dlc is worth it. Planning to buy it and play with some friends question is can i just buy it and my friends are able to play with me or do they need the dlc too?
Neon Tomb is stupid hard
If you buy the DLC then your friends can play it with you
alright thank you so much!
can we use the m249 like 
Np happy to help
They should make it so that if the ai decides to pull out his pistol and mag dump a suspect it shouldnt affect my s tier
I really don’t understand why that isnt implemented already
how many evidence are there in narcos?
2
Is there not 3? 2 in the first building and another crime scene in the next house over?
Can you just skip that? I thought that was another soft objective
Once I found the dog, I realised that there would be no quarter for the cartel.
I might be getting the maps mixed lol
Wait, does EoD remove the bomb vests in Neon Club?
After the scene is secure of course
I went from thinking that enemy deaths were to be minimized, to aiming straight for their heads.
Also, what causes a bomb vest to actually trigger?
If the bomb vest carrier runs at you and activates it
For civies killing them, and for terrorists getting too close
Pretty sure you can't remove the vests yourself.
Terrorists can't trigger a civvie vest?
Yeah but how would bomb disposal boys remove the vests?
You can’t, after you cuff them they won’t blow up
No, they can't, civie vests were made to trick newbies into killing them for being too trigger happy
More competent players IFF
taharra taharra 💣💣💣
Very carefully.
Take them to a secure location and then take the vests off one by one.
At least that's what I think would be done.
I saw a video that if the EoD has to dispose of a bomb they shoot it. If its too big they bring the experts
Would be interesting to have a mission with civvies wearing vests that are controlled by a terrorist.
So you have to take out the terrorist to avoid them blowing up the civvie.
Could also have "threat vests" with dead man triggers, where you have to subdue the wearers to prevent them from blowing up.
Can't do that with a civvie inside the bomb.
But they can clear the area and separate them to create a secure work space for trying to remove the vest.
I was talking army eod
When they find bombs in a war zone, they shoot them
Usually with a shotgun or mg
For IEDs?
Shooting isn't a foolproof method of disposal, and there have apparently been cases where clearing with something like a Mk19 or a MG has gone really awry.
Hmm, I just S ranked Neon Tomb, how much would those guys get in California?
How?
Non lethals?
Yes, I captured all the terrorists alive
So are they getting life in prison? Hundreds are dead
I S ranked Ends of the Earth.
The rest, I have no hesitation killing.
But Ends of the Earth just hits different.
Its so fun that if the bomb vest carrier agros on you there is absoloutely nothing you can do to stop him expect putting a bullet into his brain
Beanbag to the chest, you cant get unauthorized force
If we’re talking time, probably either life without parole or lethal injection. 100% the feds would take the case.
Death penalty is a thing in California?
Would be interesting to have hostile civilians on some maps; people who, while not combatabants, are actively hostile and will try to actively help hostiles and hinder SWAT.
1 civie I know off can kill swat
My guy, i dumped like 15 beanbag rounds on him, tased him multiple times, teargassed him, sting grenaded him, my ai teamates mag dumped pepperballs on him and nothing worked untill one of the ai just shot him in the head. Everytime he got out of the stun animation if you will he ran twoards us
Apparently there’s been a moratorium on executions for the last five years, but otherwise yes
The chick in valley of the dolls?
I caught a bomber day dreaming of his 72 virgins and bean bagged him. He surrendered
Yeah because he wasnt agroed on you
It aint a problem untill he runs around the whole map like a meth head 😂
Why does the game let me bean bag idle terrorists?
I think that taking a loud weapon might actually be a better idea on Elephant; draws hostiles to you instead of civilians.
Put down a suspect today on Border with a revolver. He lived
1 shot, 1 hospitalization
Makes sense, I suppose.
I imagine the people that are injured get sent to have surgery after a raid. Officers especially
But order of priority might be civilians, officers, suspects
Wouldn't that make them a suspect?
Tehnically no. She can only kill swat if you get too close
hey, im having an issue with RON where it just wont load, i click "Play", it loads for a second, then just.. stops? ive tried re-installing the game, ive tried verifying the game files, running the game in all modes, deleting all my mods, resetting my pc (this issue's happened before the DLC update for a good few months), and even clearing the download cashe. im really confused and need some help..
if this's the wrong channel then be sure to call me a dumbdumb 
Yell, keep distance and she breaks
yeah go to tech support for that since youve cleared all things we wouldve suggested anyways
tech support? like thru info@voidinteractive or is there a different support
a h. lmao, sorry, been in the server for like 2m
sorry for disturbing yalls convo
its alright happens like every hour
hey do we have to buy the dlc for maps?
yes everything cosmetics and guns are free but maps are paid for unless the host of a multiplayer session owns it then any in it can play
thanks g
no problem and if youre looking for balaclavas they're multiplayer only unless you get the mod and new dlc maps have not been available in commander mode yet only practice and multiplayer
controversy probably
controversy + it's more restrictive than milsims usually
RoN is a notably successful one but it also takes a lot of liberties on how it portrays itself
I mean. It's not terribly unrealistic
so was the old swat series its why RoN is so critized by gamers who care because everybody loved the old swat series
No one wants a game where you hand parking violation tickets
there is a police simulator where you do traffic stops and tickets and people play it i want to
RoN? It's 50/50. Most of the weapons you have access to arent in use in US SWAT teams or they saw use like once. The situations you're uncovering can absolutely happen, but it's fictional handpicked versions of those to make it interesting to play. If it actually tried to be realistic then you'd only be going after 1-2 dudes max and have like 4 guns to choose from
Don't forget the 20 player lobby
Have you seen all the Simulator games on Steam? 😅
yeah lemme play some autobahn police simulator 3
I-30 police sim
i enjoyed the game where you play as a border patrol.
its different from that but still. 
"all units we got a black corolla going below minimum speed at 250mph"
what does US or EU and OCE mean? is it like europe america or?
servers US is united states servers which is the same and NA north america servers they operate in similar areas EU is Europe or European union depending on what youre asking about and OCE is oceania thats austrailia and that area
thanks
Do all mods disable achievements?
how long till mods are back up
That entirely depends on the mod author.
any tips on s ranking port
I wonder what the average tries are for s ranking the different maps
depends
Yes, any mod disables achivements. I think even a voice overhaul for toc/judge or something like that would disable them as the game finds something in the game files that isnt base game
first time and no plan, takes a bit
I have only had like 3 maps or so that I have had to grind out
The rest I usually get done within like 1-3 tries depending on how stupid my ai teamates want to be
I wonder if VOID meant to make the player take double damage in the most recent update, given how the AI has had its crack taken away.
toc mods do not affect achievements
Does that go for all voice line mods or just toc
You can disable the checksum, too. Or just use steam unlocker if you want the achievements.
As far as I'm aware just toc. I got achievements last night with a toc mod on
Yeah but thats boring though
Especially when the achievements are doable easily in a reasonable time
Okay then just don't mod the game and get the achievements???
I just do the safe mod launch when I go for any achievement
Or no mod or what ever its called
So do you have to equip less than lethal for Ides of March? AI is gonna kill the suspects most of the time it seems
I mean you don't have to but it makes it 100x easier and more reliable with less lethal
If you mean just generally for completing the level without s tier then not realy if you flash/sting/gas the suspect before moving in
Got ya. I'm just doing practice for now but have been trying to resolve all missions so far. Arresting suspects was the only requirement I failed
Practice for what?
Practice mode instead of Commander mode
Ah ok
I spent much of yesterday using the internet archive's wayback machine to try and find old SWAT 3 mods, and hooooly jesus, the controversy surrounding Police Quest/SWAT was insane
What people had to say about the woman responsible for SWAT 3 was pretty gross
That and I could also imagine its also not the most profiting game genera
i wish someone would make some weapon sound mod. guns in game sound samey and i dont like it. 
Oh wow I don't remember any SWAT 3 controversy
I also found a controversy involving a mod that ended up being pulled from 10-David in 2002 due to overwhelming resistance from the community over it. It was a skin of a certain office from WWII
Which I'm glad I found, because I'm now going to bring it up any time someone complains when Nexus pulls down a mod and tries to blame "toruists ruining the hobby" lol
Ngl I would like a Daniel Defense style MK18
The free floating RIS barrel, a two tone color, and a PMAG
I’m planning on getting the airsoft version of it
not unless they give cheats
any tips to get greased palms in S?
not go for s
10-David, man that was a while ago lmao
99% of the content on that site is lost media now. Ive been doing a lot of research into who may own the servers now and sending out emails to see if they have backups, or know anyone who might. Waiting to hear back from the original owner of Wargamer dot com, and Pie4Foo who ran 10-David
Yeah afaik the only mods that were preserved can be found on swat3reunited
Oh and induktio's site I guess
Also there is an official Sierra mod that seems to be missing, a weapons pack called the Tier Two pack. Only Tier One and Tier Three seem to still exist now
Omg thank you for this
Helo 
Pity that SWAT 3 is overshadowed by its sequel; it's a very easy game to mod and we could've had something like SEF for it. Alas.
Yeah, although it helps that the SWAT 4 source code is out. As far as Activision knows, the source code for SWAT 3 is lost.
Contacting Tammy Dargan wouldnt be a bad place to start, but she has NO online fingerprint, so I couldnt find an email for her. I was considering emailing the TV network she used to work for, and asking them if they could either forward me an updated email, or contact her on my behalf, to see if she had a backup of the source code, and even potentially the 2.2 update she was working on before she was asked to leave Sierra.
Do you guys use the "Move and Clear" command on Port Hokan? I feel like the AI overextends alot on this map
It's useable, but you need to scout the area and use the right deployables for it.
And for the more open areas, you may be better off moving as a group, or setting up a base of fire.
I'd use the cover command, but I'm not even sure how the damned thing even works at this point.
Probably needs to be renamed to better reflect what it does.
“Cover” orders your teammates to point their gun at whatever you were looking at.
Should probably have them try to take some sort of covering position as well, I suppose.
Otherwise it'd be better to call it "look there"; conveys what they'll do more accurately.
Would be nice to have a command for them to take up positions behind cover while facing a direction.
Cover would be called for if the element leader needed to move from point a to b, for example. At least, that’s how I’ve been using it
I get that.
I'm just saying that the name of the command implies that they'd "cover" the direction; but that also involves getting themselves into a good coveringn position instead of just standing where they are.
I'd say we need a "take cover" command, but that really should be automatic for friendly AI.
Ah, got it.
(bad english alert) does traits get accumulate? like if i have 2 officers with ¨armorer¨ trait i will get more armor than just with 1 officer with the trait?
Does the Pacifier trait apply to the non-AP rounds too or is it only for Pepperball?
Only if it's deal damage to stun health (pepperballs, beanbag, taser, gas, pepper smoke)
Alright thanks
Maybe it's just me, but I kind of feel like smoke doesn't spread and stay enough.
It doesn't really fill up a room, and AI seems to recover from being exposed to it pretty quick.
Pity.
It really does feel somewhat underwhelming.
At least the AI doesn't always shoot you through it now though, so that's nice
If you take pacifier trait it's would be even better
Actually im wrong, it's does spread for cs gas from grenade and m320 after about 3 seconds
Man, how are you supposed to S-Rank Postal Service?
It's insane. These guys are random gangsters, but they've got aim like they're fucking Mossad. I walk into a room and within three seconds, half my squad's dead from fifty feet across the complex from some fuck with a revolver.
Anyone else having problems with friends crashing and not being able to re-invite them? Twice on Twisted Nerve already.
not get shot preferably
It's just ridiculous, frankly. I've had basically no issues up to this point (even with the AI on Datacenter having that similarly-silly amount of preparedness) but the combination of unrealistic enemy accuracy and a large, wide-spread map with high visibility makes it absurdly difficult.
Gee, thanks. I hadn't thought of that one.
thats how it be sometimes i remember back in 1.0 i couldnt enter the warehouse without getting immediatly killed while wearing full armor ballistic mask and a riot shield
I mean, like, I can't use Riot Shield 'cause there's no non-lethal pistol option.
I'm trying to S-Rank so I need my suspects alive.
theres a reason ill never s rank or play iron man mode
shoot them in the legs
Unfortunately, I can't issue that command to the AI.
i mean if you really wanted to you could get the no mercy for terrorist mods and get s rank while killing them
That feels like cheating, though.
in the home invasion mission where are the final civilians? I cant find them
you could give the guy with shield no pistol ammo so he just eats bullets until teammate/you help him
If I was gonna do that, I'd just install an item unlocker.
I managed to get it twice in a row on postal service but basically a lot of gas
but is it worse than playing over and over failing until you hate the game and stop playing
Yeah, that's what I've been doing.
yeah get a shit ton of bangs and gas is the solution for everything
I mean. I'm patient enough to not get upset and know my limits. I'm more likely to take a break for the night than to ragequit.
You playing commander mode?
I use hyperbolic language but if anything I think it's more ridiculous than anything, a little laughable just how accurate these random petty criminals are.
im the type where im still surprised my desk is still standing without holes in it
Yeah, I am.
take 2 negotiators and 1 pacifier
But yeah, like, I couldn't even be mad when some random fuckin' gangbanger with a Draco revealed he was the second coming of Simo Hayha as he domed my entire squad entering a hallway.
I was just flabbergasted, if anything.
if you ever need more bangs and gas https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3249 theres a mod for 125 slots
I can't. I unfortunately didn't get very good rolls with my officer hires.
Meaning I've got basically one usable squad and then there's a bunch of chucklefucks with "Moral Officer"
you can just fire useless one and hire a new one or make them resigned on some other mission by killing civis
Oh, that's how firing works?
So I can just fire all the useless ones? Is there any consequence for that?
stress raising for other officers
it reduces mental state of your officers but just speedrun gas station a few times after sending to therapy
Yeah, I know the GS trick.
I'll do that, then. Give me a bit to re-roll my officers and I'll check back.
open new hires
look inside.
moral officers
They tend to hide out in the houses.
Honestly, once the "Bring Order to Chaos" objective (and any others that would be classified as direct threats such as bombs) is done, they should just let us directly call in the Trailer units.
Much easier than playing 'hunt the civvie' every time you're done clearing a level. And nothing is really lost, gameplay wise; since all that's cut out is the no risk whack a mole.
Port with AI is so painful
AI does appear to still more than usually cracked on anything past close ranges.
Their reaction speeds, accuracy and ESP are a....dangerous combination
Also why do the lasers look so weird on Port? Is it the rain affecting the laser?
Honestly, I think the AI needs a nerf.
sometimes they are complete idiots, and sometimes they are killing machines, so not really a nerf. but devs should make them work properly
It got one already
Gents do cs grenades act as smoke too?
If it does it'll make room clearing sm easier because I could just drop it at the door
Anyone else here playing the dlc and trying to complete the levels without any AI or players? It's challenging but fun af being alone.
anyone know a mod to remove effects from gas mask and such?
Zack Bower :D
that is all
somebody should make a SLCPD SWAT unit
The core of the cloud should.
There was a dev blog about it
Yeah.
They're way too inconsistent.
Seems like their issues become most apparent in areas with long ranges and small gaps; maps like the post office.
it was removed after taser became a utility tool like pepper-spray or c2 or door wedge
it used to be secondary-slot only weapon
Use beanbags
U got just as much range as the suspects
What would you think of the idea if you could set the point multiplier/rating yourself?
For example, it "bothers" our group a bit that even if you run through the maps like a gun-happy warthog, you still get some A's, but mostly at least B's. 😄
In our case, if we don't want to play on S, which is a different way to play, I would drastically increase the punishment for killing a suspect in order to curb individual Triggerhappy members.
Of course you can ignore the rating, but in the end it's still part of the game. 🙂
Or just run mods, not that hard. A "No mercy for terrorists" mod only needs to be on host's pc
@late isle i found your twin
Why does he have a Santa hat on tho
ask him
@sacred temple love your banner mate. Why do you have a Santa hat on your PFP tho.
I am aware of the use of mods, but my individual example may have lost the point.
It's much more about the fundamental discussion. Some want it easier, others harder, others want something more individual. Of course, this is almost always a problem, people will always complain.
An official, individually adjustable points multiplier would probably take the wind out of this "basic problem" and that's what this idea was for 😄
As in visual concealment? No
really? I swore I've seen them block it
That's just the problem of not having any difficulty settings. But with how many problems they have with just implementing ai in the first place I doubt we'll ever see anything like it.
Not that I know. I know when 1.0 first came out, you couldn't see through it, but the ai did and they saw through it well.
I've usually been able to use it as visual concealment then pop out and shoot em, might just be the bots tweakin tho ngl
y'know what I will hop on and test it out rn
They could have adjusted it with the many ai changes they did. But I know I got lit up many times through it while I couldn't see shit through the very same smoke I was getting shot through.
Of course not a problem anymore because thank god they fixed it, but yeah
interesting, I'll report on my findings regarding the gas soon
unfortunately, it seems bots can see through cs gas, and I simply must've just had a bad case of jank detection
That only makes sense. The gas is actually clear now
Did you slow walk
It must've been a burning memory then 
I am not a counterstrike player
Also, gas will only fully block visibility when it has reached its full intensity (when it becomes a huge gas cloud)
Ah so it does? Wild
The problem is that they still can hear you, so unless you slow walk (or crouch walk) and not make any other noise (open doors, firing your weapon,etc.), they will still track you and shoot but with less accuracy
Ohh
do we still gotta play in safe mode❓
I have to play in safe mode? 
Just clear your mods or alternatively reinstall the game and get them updated mods
okie doke thank you for the help ^^
if you could point me towards the mod folder thatd help too
How have you been downloading mods? Nexus, Nexus with Vortex or Mod.io?
SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\paks/mod.io
thank you powa
i need some serious help, (Real Men only)
was there a balaclava added in home invasion?
yes, only for multiplayer
oh, thanks
how do you get the balaclava?
how to play multiplayer
i am REAL MAN
cuz when i go on RoN and press multiplayer and then find public game it sayis cant find a server with acceptable ping
i got a question how many areas does the dlc add and how big is it
it adds 3 maps, just google or use youtube lol
3 maps, different sizes
i meant like files wise
theyre already installed
Uhh, they come with the install
oh its preinstaled? damn i gotta do a 40gb update
ima need good luck with 1.9MB max internet
if you ahve the DLC and you host, people without the DLC can play on the maps
ooh thats cool
Played on the border map and won as a duo
The update doesn't actually add to your already existing files, you're basically just reinstalling the game with the dlc included
Oh thats perfect
is damage still broken where headshots with pistols incap?
Nvm I think it is a mod I have
unless it is actually broken and the hand can survive headshots from a mk18
hey guys, is there a table of weapon and their dps?
I wouldnt even bother, damage difference is minimal with most weapons
use what looks and sounds cool
Recoil is probably the most tangible factor
Yes, and on some scenarios picking the right gun makes a noticeable difference. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1721255639#gid=1721255639
hi guys for the hanged man achievement is it unlockable in multiplayer?
should be
Why do the games frequently crash and freeze after updating? Are there any problems with the update?
This is the way
I'm freezing on certain missions. 23MB is the most consistent to freeze for me
same
god i love using ready or not ai to swing angles for me
its so hillarious and comically powerful
using move to commands to make an ai teammate swing an angle without needing to stack first is such a good necessity
why is my update so big
i already updated the game for the dlc/ue5 update, but now there's some patch and it says its 3.6 gb but its still making me install the original 55.3
wtf man, am i unpacking the whole game or smth
That's how delta patchers work when dealing with packaged files spread around in multiple archives.
I still wonder how is this so incredibly surprising to people, it's been around for more than a decade in terms of SteamPipe 
btw i forget but are there balaclavas in the new update? i remember trying to put them on pre-ue5 update and i heard it was an early access/supporters only thing
Yes, they in multiplayer only mode as a character option
no singleplayer? cmon man
How would I get into the Lawmaker Panic Room, if possible?
You can't.
You probably can with some form of noclip or camera... but it probably isn't even modeled in anyway. I could be wrong though. I think the only thing we have to see the inside is the security cams.
seems to be a common issue rn
Cause I have the same issue
Very likely isnt modeled,
The security camera footage of the room is just a looping gif basically
Yeah that's what I'm saying. That's the closest we can get to looking inside lol.
Can morale be negatively hit in an S class mission? I just got Elephant S but all my officers went to stressed.
I've never had it happen after a perfect mission
This map always stress your officers no matter how you run it
it's increase stress to exactly 0.5 and make them stressed
Probably the fact that it was a school shooting
Yeah I figured it was just because of the map, just wanted confirmation
Is it me or is S ranking easier than running the game with lethals?
Kinda depends on your playstyle mostly
wanted to report back on the command "NoGamepad=false", when entering the command the line is getting deleted once game is started. Would be cool if you guys could just reenable it.
I take it extremely slowly
Wedges are my best friend
Have you tried making the config read only after adding the line?
yeah it stays then but not wokring in game
Huh
adding a random command like blablabla = true stays in the ini too beyond game start, so the command NoGamepad=false must get recognized in some sense but gets instatnyl deleted.
Managed to do Gas Station with Cracked Souls mod and got a maximum A+ grade, a suspect got downed
at twisted nerves i cant find the last civ pls help
like i did al mision but the civ one ios stil not finished and i looked arround the map for 50 min and i couldnt find him
It's like 3 civies on whole map. Did you check the closet near the tunnels?
There too
i killed a civ haha
anyone feel that the headcam looks like ass now?
is there a way around that in the settings or something? i cant see anything on it
Don't cap the fps and change your ai helmets, there is a helmet that moves the cosmetic head cam up so it's not in the way
do you know which one?
No Pic on hand but it's the one with 13 variations
thats the one you wanna run?
Yeah, it has a variant with a headcam slightly higher
Wasn't there something in one of the updates where you could have AIs search a crime scene for the last bits of evidence? How do you activate that?
They dont seem to do anything everytime I try, cant figure out why
are you getting all soft objectives?
Do they not collect like the side/soft evidence?
No
no only unarrested civs and evidence
The suspect thinking it's smart to shoot at the SWAT member who has a shotgun aimed at him point blank
This is why I take the initiative and shoot first.
Sad thing is there are probably some people like that (the suspect I mena)
not probably there are and they do a lot
Ehh I've seen dudes try to take on 10 plus officers during a shootout after a chase ends. Some people rather take chances or die than face consequences.
what
nothin
It would be really nice if the equipment menu showed the optic sights. I hate having to guess what one does or how it looks
That's what the firing range is for 
I know the range is there but it gets tedious to walk back and forth and back and forth
Apologies if this is a loaded question:
With the DLC release and some time having passed since 1.0., which guns are considered "the best" now?
Knowing what the sight looks like in the menu would be so much nicer
Clearly the supernova
The taser
but unironically
@gaunt gale any update on the lag???
It is still being actively worked on
noice
why?
Silent 1 shot anywhere on the body weapon that costs 1 slot for 6 shots, with 2 shots on every magazine that also gives you full score since it's non lethal
Also has insane range, only downside is it doesn't work as a client in multiplayer
What about for lethal runs? What's the best primary?
G36 probably
How come?
Lowest recoil in the game
What about for AI squadmates?
Greased Palms is kicking my ass so that's why I'm asking lol
I don't think it matters, SA-58 so they one tap what they're shooting at i suppose
I dunno if the recoil affects them or their accuracy
Thanks!
Will try that out
Weapons won't make much of a difference though, not in this game
Also, is there a way to replace your pistol with a taser? lol
I'm tired to having to do those extra steps to swap to it
I think there's a mod for it?
Greased Palms is hard, a scope may help
For morale you can throw the FISA agent in the FISA office and lob a bunch of gas grenades in there
I'd say the list of best weapons is mostly the same. The F90, G36c, and the new FLUX Raider MP17 are best if you want accuracy. Aim for the head if you're going lethal. For armor pen, SA 58 is technically best but if you're going for headshots then basically any accurate weapon will do. For AI, it doesn't really matter what you give them, but I'd avoid giving them weapons with small magazine sizes like the SA-58. They'll full auto and dump the mag often, and if the enemy is still standing they'll do the rest of the fight with their pistols, which you don't want. So basically giving them any standard AR 15 variant will work fine.
I've just been using accuracy through volume lol
My issue is just the 1-3 guys at the end that may be hiding anywhere on the map
They usually pop out of an unexpected corner and kill me
ugh yeah those. Do you know how to properly clear rooms?
Make the AI do it while I hang back and lob gas grenades?
The AI are good, but you should probably understand how to clear rooms yourself. I'll put a good video on it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art -
What's the difference between the FLUX, G36C and F90 functionally?
The videos in!
I'll check it out, I've just been using standard MOUT tactics
flux is a pistol so it has pretty bad armor pen, id go with g36 or f90
What's the difference between the G36 and F90?
I just searched that up. It looks cool I think ill look into it
f90 is a bullpup so i think its slightly shorter (in length), most rifles ingame are pretty much the same besides cosmetics sound and recoil
Sounds good, I'll use those then
Flux fucks hard for going for headshots.
The flux is a PDW thats basically a pistol in a brace. Highly accurate, but low damage and armor pen. If you're good at nailing headshots, its sufficient in most missions. If you're not, then go with the G36 or F90. Both are low recoil rifles with decent armor pen. The G36 is short barreled and the F90 is a bullpup, so both work very well in tight quarters. Can't really go wrong with either one of them, so pick whichever one you think is cooler
Are the reloads about the same timing?
G36C is a literal laser with 2 shot to center mass for incap.
Yep!
Well dang, I guess that answers that question lol
BTW do you need to have finished the main campaign to be able to do the DLC missions?
nope
you can start practice and they will be opened from start
they will be accessible in commander mode only after next patch
If my game crashes or if I leave mid game will it count as a death in ironman mode?
Crashes no, leaving the game, probably not, but your team may quit if they are over stressed
Ait ty
Can someone please tell me where the hell is the crystal storage room is in 213?
Neva neva neva no bev 4 u
okayy thank u sm this really helped😭
I took a little break (6 months or so) Back and playing career (singleplayer) and i keep failing Ides of March - Any tips?
Is it just me or is the AI for the team members just really really bad on valley of the dolls?
L
When you try to unlock the rolex, is there any requirement for what grade to complete each level at or does it not matter as long as you complete it?
The watch will say what the requirement is on the top under the text in red, most of em are tied to scores
Yeah it doesnt say anything abt it but just to be sure
no
ait
Greased Palms ain't a bad map
It's not a bad one at all. Unless you accidentally wonder outside of the boundary zone and get a lag spike
I agree, I really hate the boundary zone on that map
I am back to say Gahlee I hate the AI
It is the worst map, I would say, by quite a margin.
Except maybe farm, where the lighting effects keep you from seeing anything.
Nah
💀 Why are the suspects in Sins of the Father actual bullet sponges. That and the AI teammates aim goes down so much in that map. I got gunned down THROUGH the balistic shield, they can withstand CS gas without gas masks, and the AI cant shoot through doorframes or down hallways 💀
dont think anyone actually Is immune to CS its just a bit buggy
But they also have pretty heavy armour despite not looking like it
I thought banbag shotguns would still make them react no?
they should in one hit I think
despite armor
💀 Not these guys apparently
might be missing
can be hard to tell sometimes especially if you're taking lots of fire
Got my 4 teammates volley firing into a doorframe where the suspect is and they tank it all no reaction. Pretty sure a plume of smoke supposed to come up when u hit them and I saw that many times
weird
idk then
I love this game so much but genuinely needs a lot of work
yup
That one set of double doors opening into the courtyard is just solid white glare
💯
why are the helmets off centered on most of the characters
maybe your eyes are just off-center
once you see what im seeing youll understand
almost every character has the helmet embedded into their skin
built in protection
If you shoot a bomb in the hospital, will it bleed (or is it very red explosive material) 😄
What map is ''coyote''?
Rust Belt
Bro I cleared it w only revo but I didn't get the achievement :(
real bro
Do slugs work in MP now?
Can you disable the animation where you wave your gun on the "Yell for compliance" command?
With the GUNFIGHTER mod, yes
I put it on my old PFP for Christmas and then forgot to take it off. Now, every time someone asks about it, I keep it on for another three months.
I'm also working on a Power cosplay in real life.
bruh 30 mins to find last civ and they kill me with a punch
damn that's rough
How come whenever I order clear with launcher the
gas always lands outside the room?
what happened to the subtitles option
it’s in audio
anyone got good mods im down for anything
I completed all the objectives in Ends of the Earth. Got an A but then at menu it says unresolved
Is Hospital still bugged and there is a missing civilian?
Is it intentional that all maps are unlocked in multiplayer, even if they have not yet been unlocked in SP since the update/savewipe?
Hey 
It’s intentional
So you can just mess around in any map with your buddies
hi bub
ah okay thanks 🙂 I wasn't sure, but that wasn't the case before, was it?
Heyo
Ever since the release of the 1.0 game
Back in early access there wasn’t a story mode, there wasn’t any cosmetics like that so you always had every map unlocked
how it goin
Gud
I’m saving up for a Daniel Defense MK18
An airsoft one but still it’s gonna be kewl
Then my brain cache is apparently destroyed or corrupted. 😄
The old map selection before full release was nice, too
Yeah ig lol
is danny good at defense..
From what I heard yes 
i fully support the purchase then
For the ironman mode watch, you need to not have any officers resign right?
What do you mean?
They cant resign or die
to unlock the watch you need to complete the game on ironman mode, have no officers die, and no officers can resign, right? i heard someone say that and i wanna make sure so i dont mess up
yes
No resign, no fire, no die
alright thanks
Guys imagine if r6s and ron switched developers for a week
I don’t know about you guys, but I really love the flat top look of a MK18
NO!
RON -> implement P2W skins that reduce your recoil to 0
R6S -> uhhh whatever RON devs will do to it
Sure the version in game is a mod 0 but damn a mod 1 would be nice 
The joke is thinking that the game would get an update in one weeks worth of development time

Just out of interest, is there an office? Or are you all working remotely? I read that Alan wrote that he currently lives in Germany and all of the advertised job offers are also remote 😄
Void is an international team across the world, but to be clear mods are not void staff, we're just dumb volunteers
they keep us locked inside with no windows
*Honourable volunteers
Are they paid in Mr. Krabs Wacky Bucks?
Depends on the platform
On Steam I get paid in human suffering, on Discord they get paid in Spongebob discord effects
I like the way things are now tyvm
You will pay for pink SWAT uniform and you will like it
Don't forget the ready or not mobile release announcement 😄
DUDE
I forgot R6S mobile existed lol
they have a board game too thats pretty fun
So I did a drawing commission for someone like 2 months ago in hopes that they would pay me a steam card so I can get the home invasion DLC. Unfortunately they ended up never paying me. 😭
I was so disappointed cuz the last day I told them they could pay me was on the day of the DLC release.
Well, as long as the host owns it you can still play the new maps. Sorry to hear you didn’t get paid like you expected.
None of my friends like RON as much as I do to own it though
You got scammed dude 
and I really only play with friends because it’s easier to coordinate and use tactical lingo with them
You can try #🔎looking-for-players or public matches if you are brave enough
real 😭
I initially charged them $30 for it, but after they said they couldn’t I lowered it to $10

real
The MK18 is kewl
real
I would love for it to be mod one instead of mod zero that we have in game rn ;-;
I’m planning to get an airsoft replica of a Daniel defense mod 1 mk18 
I been loving this weapon lately
What are the major differences?
Hmm
The main thing to me is that I think mod zero is the one with the Front triangle fixed sight
I think mod 1 & above started to remove that fixed triangle front iron
Mark zero has the classic RIS rail with the triangle front sight
And MK18s mod 1+ started using free float, hand guards that removes that triangle sight
I mean, the marketing in this game does look unique, but I don’t know I feel like that a mod 1 would look cleaner
Other than that, there’s practically not that many differences with them
How many door wedges do you carry across your team?
God, I hated this type of animation even as a kid
30-40
I have 125 slots. Might as well make use of them.
Oh well that makes some sense I suppose
does gunfighter work with DLC? because my normal "NVG always allowed mod" crashes with dlc
I’m also packing ~100 flashes and stings
Yes
Bro really bringing the whole LSPD armory in a raid...
this a mod or something
it did infact not work
Odd. I have Gunfighter installed and it’s working fine. Where did you download it from?
nexus?
That’s weird.
found another one that works
There was one recent version of GF basic that was incorrectly setup and did not work, if that was what you had
yep here you go https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3249
so did the dlc add any knew lore? I heard some phone recordings and stuff but it was just about guns and port
other than a hurricane happening
mostly about the new missions theres more story especially relating to the undercover agent and some stuff going on with the oil rich family in the mansion and new evidence in the locker room after completing the dlc missions
oh knew locker room stuff? awesome tysm
yeah theres two on the back table one on the shelf where the tran brothers evidence is and then two on the shelf to the right of the back table
wtf is the soft ob on dorms????
I heard one girl saying "dont let them find it" or something
and found nothing through like 3 run throughs??
its that weird altar in the very back on the second floor where all the crazy drawings are
i think anyways
ohhh
Correct
So when it says more mission experience to unlock an ability for an officer, do they mean general mission experience? Or experience with the officer in the mission?
You have to bring the officer along
For successful mission completions, I do not think failures or withdrawals count
woooo I got the dlc!!!


me whenever i think about the Ends of the earth lore: 
that mission hits hard for me
I’m also Vietnamese and my name is Andy (one of the suspect’s name)

I think the mission does a good job of capturing how Asian households really care about their family and will go to extremes to save them
I’m actually going into law enforcement after college so it’ll be interesting for me to experience similar stuff
good luck with that man.👍
And then are enemies with gas masks immune or resistant to pepper balls or CS gas? I always thought they don’t work. I shoot them with pepper balls and they still surrender
I always thought it wouldn’t affect them
Me too
Either it’s an oversight that hasn’t been patched or the enemies have Temu filters
This is something that actually kind of is a complaint of mine how gas mask enemies can be affected by the gas
Yeah it's bugged unless they fixed it.
There is a parameter where they can be, but some gas mask suspects do not have it turned on.
Our group was also confused because of this and we started to create theories as to whether there are different gas masks and whether the “cheap” ones do not protect the suspects 😂
Yeah, I think they should be immune to gas
It would require you to think of a different solution to take them down ._.
A little too realistic, perhaps. I doubt most people can ID the mask and filter used on the mode.
But I agree, they already went to the time to code it in, they might as well use it.
I looked it up and it's worse than I remembered
"There are two versions of Gerard's accomplices.
Accomplice Type 1: Pistol + Body Armor has a gas mask that is ONLY cosmetic.
Accomplice Type 2: UZI + NO body armor. He is the only suspect in the game that is immune to CS GAS. He is new with 1.0
Type 2 is NOT immune to direct hits from the pepperball guns, which will still stagger + stun.
Type 2 is NOT guaranteed to spawn, because of the RNG spawn system, both can be Type 1, Type 2, or split with one of each."
That’s honestly a oversight that just makes me mad to be honest
The dudes on the map making ricin and who knows what else should definitely be immune to gas if they are wearing masks for that
Interesting 😄 A cosmetic gas mask is strange decision in a game where gas can be a tactical component
Some may call it nitpicky or some people may think that I’m being dramatic but like come on, dude
At least It would add some sort of challenge to the map like it would require you to bring different gear or to approach stuff differently
It already is supposed to be a challenge: the first map to introduce traps, suspects have the most health and morale, extra resistance to nonlethals, good aim and sneaky wall gap tactics
So the gas is definitely an oversight
thank you
I completely agree with you and basically that's how the game works (more or less). I just meant that things like gas masks shouldn't be purely cosmetic because it tends to confuse players. So it was based on mr eman's list and the type 1 😄
I would love it if you could equip yourself new and individually at the spawn (on the Swat vehicle) like a real Swat team so that you can react individually to the circumstances of the map. But unfortunately that would probably also undermine some of the game's mechanics
i'd love to see a map where it's a building or smth on fire and gas masks are the only way to have breathable air. or that you enter some illicit methlab or sum and are forced to used the ags mask to avoid breathing in bad stuff
or even claustrophobic type maps that are super closed in
imagine an amusement park scenario with mirror labyrinths
To anyone who beat Elephant on S, how hard would you say it is?
with a good team and good coordination it can be easy, very few gunmen. thought you have to be efficiently quick
Yeah that’s what I think it is. It’s hard playing it on single player
Often times I get caught off guard bc of how I have to rush and find the suspects before they kill the civs. You literally have 3 minutes to find 4 of them
I beat it but I still find it very hard
in a situation like this you cannot be slow sadly. clearing everything is long and you cannot take your time so if you wanna S it's just running in with gas or stingers and just beanbagging em
I use the taser since it’s only four suspects but am I the only one who has this problem? Idk if my aim sucks but when a suspect starts shooting at me I often miss them bc I get startled by seeing a suspect unexpectedly and it’s hard to aim when the screen blurs and turns red when shot
tazers are hit or miss, sometimes the nods dont connect so if you wan the best efficiency just use a beanbag
Yeah that sounds like a better idea
Beanbag winning
my frames are significantly worse after last update... what can I do to fix rhis?
oh for some reason its trying to run 2560x1600
did that fix it?
imagine a ready or not/realistic swat board game
changing resolution and not being on epic graphics fixed it. For some reason last update maxed every single setting for me
oh sweet
I feel like arn-18 is the best rifle in the game
so AI bots cant clear a room for shit, the swat AI ran ahead of me and got domed in the head while looking to my left
I was using the shield
lol in brisa cove I've had better results by leaving red and blue teams on 2 ends of the main hallway and use cover command on both, they'll drop anyone instantly
Morning, do I need to "resolve" all levels to unlock home invasion in practice mode?
nope, they always unlocked from start
my problem is I am recording an Ironman run, and those room temp iq swat AI ruined it on second mission. had to Alt F4 to retry
He ran ahead of me into the breach and then proceeded to turn his right side towards the enemy
Got killed in 1 bullet

And I also do my ironman on a hard ai mod
Swat ai: Let me run into the room ahead of shield and show my side to the enemy
Decided to make AI always follow me and I do shield work
1 guy on twisted nerve took 6 9mm bullets to go down
compund v infused meth
quick question
am i meant to have the "eod notified" audio, and variants thereof, play for about a minute after each bomb defusal on hospital?
Well I guess you're keeping it till Christmas now lol
No way! That's so awesome!
same glitch i got
Yeah, it's fun. I've had most of the outfit done, just need to get the last few pieces.
fuck neon tomb
thats my favorite level if not just for the atmosphere
i hate having to arrest a terrorist
thats fucked, im absolutely killing every one of these people
That's so cool. Would love to see the final result!
Depends on your numbers. If you're doing it solo, can be tricky and have a lot of RNG in the sense of finding everyone in time. If you've got a full 5 man, shouldn't take you more than a few tries.
Atmosphere's nice, but that music does my head in.
Got hit with -50
You can change it to right about anything you want with mods. Old audio mods should actually work fine for the most part.
thats literally part of the atmosphere
anyway this quaddlewaddle fucker is annoying me
You can like the whole of something, but dislike a particular part of it.
For example, you purchased a game where you're strongly encouraged to arrest people, but you don't like to arrest terrorists.
You still have to
the way you phrased it implied seperate, that is my bad
No biggie.
under what conditions do the s bomb vests go off
Civvies - if they die
Suspects - if they reach up and detonate the vest
Enemy vests explode if they get in close to you, they manually detonate it. You can shoot them in the chest, the bomb won't explode by hitting the vest. Don't waste time trying to get them to comply if you're running lethals just because they have no gun, gun them down. Civilian vests will not explode based on proximity, but will if you shoot the civilian. Basically these aren't a problem unless you're very gung-ho.
so never while they're surrendering?
No, but cuff them fast so they don't get up
Ideally no, if they're complying you can just take them in for some bonus points. I'd prioritise cuffing them first as Luna says though.
Can't detonate a bomb vest with your hands tied
Is it normal that you get 2 c2s when only equipping 1?
Not for me it isn't. 
C2+C2= C4
i like it

vest only goes off if you shoot them in the vest
if you headshot bombvest ppl it dont go off
Fattest fucking lie
fym
You're talking about neon no?
yes
They 100% will explode unless that was changed with last patch. But I'm pressing x for doubt
i mean ive never shot a civilian with a bomb vest on there, only the bombvest suspect
Yeah civs even if shot in the head will still explode
Yes
anyways, suspects wont blow up if headshot
No. You can shoot them in chest yet they still won't explode
But civs? Nah make it make sense
Idk how many times I've somehow hit the fire extinguisher in blue bar just for a bomb civ to be in its radius🤣
bodycam also fudged up their game after a patch
missed 2 shots at this suspect it went through the wall and hit another in the neck
tf?
Calculated miss
fr
Exactly
what is this yappington rn
Yap or not
Are you Yappin Or Not
Yappin
then stop yappin
No I'm Ready or Yappin
Yap Invasion
Just tasers?
ohhhh i should use taser? oups sneaks away
Im blind or the door traps are literally invincible?
Now they showed up, istg i didnt saw a single wire or grenade previously
Name your Builds.
Im bored asf, so i wanna try some other ppl loadouts.
yappin
Are VRTs used in the new Updated Engine? Those are Virtual Runtime Textures... means they blend depending on a heightmap into the next model or landscape (ground) with a VRT of its own
imagine being without flashlight in Hide n Seek
NVG
Does anyone else get unresolved after scoring an a
