👮ron-discussion

[ionic gale]

Like I said, I would like to start modeling this game, although

[zenith glacier]

they tank like 3x SA-58's AP bullets thats crazy

[ionic gale]

I am not good in blender and I definitely do not have enough coding expertise for that so that’s not gonna happen

[zenith glacier]

do you have any tips making it done non lethal

[fallow warren]

Got my first moment of frustration after over 120 hours. Game crashed when we were bagging evidence at the post center. All objectives complete.

[twin citrus]

What pistols do you guys recommend for the beat cops achivement?

[fallow warren]

Five-seveN, FN 509, USP45, 357 magnum

[ionic gale]

Beanbag

[shy tulip]

No idea

[zenith glacier]

😭

[stone bay]

i just got one tapped by a bot

[misty island]

VOID added taser to secondary slot(pistol slot). but you still can not equip it with shield with taser? is that a bug or a feature?

[stone bay]

I'm running a 416 and a 509

[fallow warren]

feature

[ionic gale]

The 1911s are cool and all but the trade-off of more damage than capacity I feel like that a lot of people just don’t want to do that

Although of course I do see people run the 1911 and it’s just cool to do so but I don’t think I would recommend it for at least shield use

[fallow warren]

Taser + shield used to be mega op for non lethal before 1.0. I can understand why they removed it. made the game too easy

[twin citrus]

probably a feature

[ionic gale]

I’ve practically used to every gun in this game except for the brand new ones so I like to mix and match

[copper delta]

In this scam?

[ionic gale]

Oop

[copper delta]

I was gonna say lol, scam is a very strong accusation.

[ionic gale]

Game Sory, I’m using voice

AutoCorrect and voice typing rn

[copper delta]

Fair.

[misty island]

i do understand that it is OP, but it was not the reason why they moved taser to equipment. Taser was moved to equipment, because people wanted to use both taser and lethal pistol.

[ionic gale]

I want to run a M11 and a Taser

We didn’t have that luxury pre 1.0 😔

[raw valley]

the revolver is the best pistol i think

[fallow warren]

Feeling wise, definitely.

Getting the Way out West achievement was genuinely fun

[vale mason]

Performance after the update is trash

[raw valley]

yeah

[vale mason]

Especially on older cards, I went from high 90’s and low 70’s to 30 fps in one update

[raw valley]

it works well too i think
like you can two shot most people

[vale mason]

In terms of raw damage yeah

Even on all low my game is having a hard time running

[raw valley]

yeah it sucks because i got the game one day before the update'

[drifting sand]

The new SMG is...disappointing.

I can't really think of a reason to take it over the others.

[dreamy garden]

Most definitely not

Awful rate of fire high recoil cant retention reload the rounds

[shy tulip]

It's fun against no armor/light targets

I though I wouldn't like it but it grew on me

You just kinda spam fire and when you stop the dude is dead dead

[ionic gale]

Isn’t the theme of these new weapons close quarters combat/pdws?

[dreamy garden]

the ddm4 literally says pdw in its name

[ionic gale]

I feel like we’re gonna get “themes” of weapons due to the maps that we’re getting in future DLC’s

[shy tulip]

idk

[fallow warren]

Fast reload when you fully empty the mag. Useful in maps with high suspect density like 23mb/s

[drifting sand]

Call me old fashioned, but I think that PDWs should be classed alongside SMGs instead of assault rifles.

[fallow warren]

how is the ddm4 an SMG

[ionic gale]

PDW’s are sort of a class of weapon that are confusing

There’s four types of PDW that I would say exists

Personal defense weapons are kind of confusing to really draw a barrier on which weapons are and are not since obviously these four types can overlap with each other

[drifting sand]

That they are, but their purpose is closer to being a sidearm that a primary in general.

Anyhoo, any thoughts on the state of the AI?

[fallow warren]

small cartridge fast firerate equal smg, medium cartridge average firerate = assault rifle, small cartridge average firerate = pdw. My two cents on it.

[ionic gale]

In a military context, PDWs are usually given to irregular troops that are not expected to be in combat, but need a weapon to do so if they need to

They’re called personal defense weapons for a reason, they are made for defense not offense

[fallow warren]

Like tankers. ( Ignore that tankers in my country get an M4 as a pdw )

[ionic gale]

You’re not gonna give a full-size rifle to an army cook but you want to give him something more than a little pistol

SMG’s and PDW’s are where the definition starts to get blurry there, but like I said there are four types that I would say exist

[fallow warren]

I say give him the full size rifle and let him cook. Cooks are a different breed

[drifting sand]

Also.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like they really didn't make use of the whole hurricane thing in the DLC.

The missions could've been set without a hurricane and nothing would seemingly change.

A pity too; the destruction and flooding that a hurricane brings has a lot of potential for interesting scenarios.

[ionic gale]

I guess you’re right in that sense

[ionic gale]

Also definitions of what a PDW is and is not is also very confusing

[shy tulip]

I think it's pretty noticeable outside of law maker, which is kinda the irony of the rich guy living in luxury imo

But dorms is straight up fucked and has flooded areas, narcos has all the destruction, people are having to boil water, the streets are flooded/some were blocked

[ionic gale]

Some people may think that it needs to be a special AP round like 5.7or 4.6 but we have a rifle and pistol caliber PDW’s too

[drifting sand]

Dorms feels like a penance with the deathwish that the Ai seems to have.

[ionic gale]

Ye I like the 416 so I can feel like a Gravy SEAL

[fallow warren]

Dorms is a lot of fun to gas

[vivid crescent]

Dorms honestly is the map that gives me the most trouble lmao

The bugged objective as well as how it's basically setup for maximum wallbanging

By comparison using gratitous amounts of tear gas makes Lawmaker and Narcos pretty easy.

[drifting sand]

Would be interesting to use that.

Create places of great uncertainty, where the team genuinely doesn't know what the area will be like, where they can tread, or what they'll actually find.

[vivid crescent]

Nice body armor chump but ya should have brought a gas mask!

[thin iris]

how do you get a balaclava

[vale mason]

It’s a conversion kit which gives the pistol an smg style body plus the small calibre and fire rate make it an smg as well but it’s kinda weird

[ionic gale]

It is only available in multiplayer since it’s tied to a playable character called echo which you have to play the multiplayer to switch out characters

[ionic gale]

Are you confusing the DM4 with the MP17 Flux?

[drifting sand]

Not to mention the whole "arrest 5 suspects".

As I said; AI has a deathwish matched only by their aggression.

[bitter mason]

I dont think any level should have an "arrest x ammount of suspects" objective

[fallow warren]

it's a 300 blackout rifle but light. Not the Raider which is just a pimped sig P320

[bitter mason]

same with arresting anyone alive. Only should fail if you kill someone unauthorised

[ionic gale]

because the DM4 is a AR 15 style 300 blackout rifle shortened, and the flux raider MP17 is that pistol that is in fancy ass SMG housing

[ionic gale]

We were supposed to get the standalone pistol, but I’m guessing they just describe the idea because it would’ve been either useless or something. I don’t know.

[bitter mason]

as in, primary suspects

[ionic gale]

The Scrapped Sig P320 that is in the MP17 smg

[fallow warren]

They were worried all our officers would accidentaly discharge in their feet

[vale mason]

Aren’t you talking about the new smg ?

[bitter mason]

"smg"

[ionic gale]

It sounded like you confused the DM4 with the MP17

[vale mason]

An smg doesn’t have to be full auto

[fallow warren]

By definition, yes

[bitter mason]

sub machine gun

gun definitions are kinda wacky anyways arent they

[ionic gale]

Sub machine guns were supposed to be a pistol caliber weapon that fires and fully automatic, and they’re big thing is volume of power

[fallow warren]

Otherwise get me my welding torch and a piece of rebar, I'm turning a glock 17 into an smg

[vale mason]

Guess no more RoN for me until my pc parts arrive 😔

[shy tulip]

I like it was an smg because I like it as a primary, but I can see people wanting it to be listed as a pistol

[ionic gale]

Yeah, gun good definitions are obviously going to be subjective to some people

[shy tulip]

I kinda see the appeal now of pistols as a primary

[bitter mason]

I think the new "smg" is probably more of a PDW or Carbine

[ionic gale]

Battle rifles are another confusing ass thing some people don’t get

[vale mason]

I like pistols

[bitter mason]

though carbine is a weird definition too I think

[ionic gale]

Yeah, exactly it’s considered a PDW in my eyes, it is a stocked machine pistol

[fallow warren]

I use the legal definitions. ( Assault rifles have had a legal definition since Reagan, little fun fact )

[vale mason]

We need more variety tbh but I definitely see the reason why there’s not a bunch of guns

[bitter mason]

it doesnt have full auto tho

[fallow warren]

Machine pistols are full auto

[ionic gale]

Wait

[bitter mason]

the way atleast I see it is a "machine" weapon has some form of automatic fire

[ionic gale]

Wait, it’s more of stocked pistols/machine pistols

[vivid crescent]

Funfact: INCAP DOESNT COUNT

[ionic gale]

Sorry I got it wrong, the artillery Luger PO8 is a PDW in my eyes

[vivid crescent]

Add NeoWW2 bad men with a Luger PO8 (not sure if the filter blocks the word)

[vale mason]

Use less than lethal and gas, you won’t arrest 5 people if you’re going in killing everyone

[vivid crescent]

Chief: Judge, you can't use a Luger P08 we took from them, that's evidence.

Judge: But it's a pistol with a stock and drum magazine! it's cool!

[ionic gale]

See what I mean on how really fucking confusing the PDW class of weapons is to many and certain weapons are sort of hard to put into that circle of guns?

[vale mason]

Pdws are cool

[ionic gale]

I also think battle rifles are cool

[bitter mason]

that is definitely something they need to fix, incaps should count as "arrests" atleast in terms of objectives. Means you dont have to get full arrests but discourages straight up killing

[ionic gale]

Yee they are,

[vale mason]

I want more shotguns and also a fix for the supernova sights

[ionic gale]

To my understanding, there’s like 4 types of PDW’s

[vivid crescent]

Incap is literally just arresting someone with a hospital visit first.

[vale mason]

You’re restraining them not arresting them tho

[thin iris]

wtf

[vale mason]

I think it only counts as an arrest if they’re faking dead

[vivid crescent]

Do you think suspects who are cuffed after being shot are just let go and not put into jail after the hospital

[vale mason]

Yeah but that’s not an arrest

[fallow warren]

they are arrested afterwards

[frigid shell]

Anyone else struggling with the pepperball gun? Today I was shooting the suspects as they were shooting me and they wouldn’t surrender

[vale mason]

For the time being they’re being restrained

[vivid crescent]

Yeah sometimes supects just have absurd resistance so you have to mag dump.

[shy tulip]

Pepper ball is kinda weird. From my understanding you want to aim for the environment around them instead of their faces

[native rune]

Such is the nature of firing mildly unpleasant BBs

[shy tulip]

Something about it creating a cloud of pepper

Could be wrong though.

[fallow warren]

That's I use beanbag shotty. Takes 3 shots max

[vale mason]

Use the beanbag shotty but don’t hit them in the head

[frigid shell]

Yeah I decided to give pepperball a try but didn’t work so I’ll do beanbag from now on

[vale mason]

Yes it’s so much better than the pepper ball guns

[fallow warren]

yeah, it's just spicy paintball

[twin citrus]

they definetely changed it with the update, or the AI in the new maps are just super resistant to pepper

[vale mason]

Just don’t hit them in the head cause you’ll kill them

[ionic gale]

Something that surprised me is gas mask enemies, apparently or just not affected by CS gas

I mean, they are affected

[vivid crescent]

Weirdly in Elephant I had suspects with gas mask get stunned by CS gas

[fallow warren]

I have a gas mask and yeah, CS gas doesn't do anything when I have it on

[twin citrus]

none of the gas masks work except for 1 version of a suspect in the cabin mission

[vale mason]

In the woods map I noticed that they were actually immune to the gas

[ionic gale]

that shit is weak I guess they have crappy filters

[fallow warren]

Huffed a gas during a protest for the lulz with it on

[twin citrus]

There are two versions of Gerard's accomplices.

Accomplice Type 1: Pistol + Body Armor has a gas mask that is ONLY cosmetic.

Accomplice Type 2: UZI + NO body armor. He is the only suspect in the game that is immune to CS GAS. He is new with 1.0

[ionic gale]

Has anybody ever tried to gas one of Gerard’s boyfriends in the cabin mission?

[ionic gale]

Why aren’t all the enemies that have gas masks immune to them?

[twin citrus]

idk balancing or an oversight

[vivid crescent]

So gas masks are something Void didn't put in properly is what you're telling me, so tear gas is actually even more op

[ionic gale]

That makes sense for that to be a gameplay feature, and it would require you to find some other method to take them down

[fallow warren]

yeah, but they died because I direct impacted them with the launcher

[ionic gale]

I hope that it was just an oversight because if it’s just balancing well like that’s kind of whack

[twin citrus]

the grenade launcher?

[fallow warren]

ye

[twin citrus]

i've never had that happen

[ionic gale]

That still a feature in 1.0?

I remember hearing that it was somehow removed for some reason,

Can somebody confirm that in the basement area?

[fallow warren]

of course. I've had so many launcher duels with my mates in the shoothouse

[twilit river]

I think the Swat AI are immune to gas cos I've seen them have no reaction to it when they don't have masks equipped, must be an oversight

[frigid shell]

Did they intend to make suspects more resistant to pepper balls?

[twin citrus]

i think so

[ionic gale]

Can you test if you can direct impact a civilian/suspect and they would die?

[frigid shell]

Bc I don’t see it anywhere in the update info

[twin citrus]

i think the suspects in brisa cove are also more resistant to CS because they are all veterans and have been exposed to it before
it may be the same in dorms because the suspects are former convicts

[frigid shell]

Maybe it said something about suspects reacting more naturally

[fallow warren]

on it

[ionic gale]

I really remember that being some weird oversight that was somehow missing in the 1.0 release

[sharp grove]

Is there actually only 4 shooters on the map Neon or is there more?
Just wondering cause the prep mentions that they know there are "atleast 4 gunman"

[stone bay]

There's more

[twin citrus]

13-15

[fallow warren]

So sad. They don't die anymore

[sharp grove]

[ionic gale]

That’s weak

[twin citrus]

theres a spreadsheet with all the numbers

[ionic gale]

That just doesn’t make sense to be honest like I understand if you want to do it for balance reasons, but

Meh, I know that they can still just be simply affected by the tear gas affecting their lungs, but that’s a little weird

[fallow warren]

The days of launcher duels are officially gone

[sudden elbow]

i got an a+ on 23 megabytes a second and it still says its unresolved?

[ionic gale]

What about the CS gas not affecting gas mask enemies?

[ionic gale]

that also seems a little bit dumb in my opinion and again if it’s for balance reasons, it’s weird

[vale mason]

Is heavy armor worth it

[ionic gale]

Do you guys feel like that the briefings don’t give you accurate information about the mission or something like that?

[native rune]

They’re not meant to give you the full story

[ionic gale]

I would say it’s worth it, but if you’re running steel armor, it would practically make you move like a turtle so yeah

[vale mason]

No I use ceramic

[ionic gale]

Yeah, that would make sense ofc

[keen condor]

does anyone else have problems with not being able to see guns after killing an enemy

[ionic gale]

I run heavy armor with ceramic to yeah you should be good

[ionic gale]

Either they were thrown around the map some place near or they disappeared to the back rooms

[fallow warren]

well 23 mb/s is meant to be you stumbling into something else, coyote is based off shoddy intel from an anonymous snitch, but other than that it's fine.

[ionic gale]

Yee

I’m gonna like the FN 509 pistol

It has the highest magazine capacity of all of the 9x19mm pistols so

[fallow warren]

it has basically zero recoil

[sharp grove]

Fr?
Can u sent me the link to it, would love to check it out

[twin citrus]

i only use heavy armor when im doing challenges like narco cops

[twin citrus]

its in the pins

its near the top by VotiveChunk

[sharp grove]

AH found it thanks

[prisma haven]

anyone know if RoN is currently running on UE5?

[fallow warren]

It is

[prisma haven]

oh that's neat, ty

[shy tulip]

5.3

[prisma haven]

i have another question. are bullets in this game projectiles, pseudo projectiles, or ray-traced? idk if the devs discussed this

[frigid shell]

My game just froze. Has that been happening to anyone else too?

[fleet fossil]

whats your specs of pc also u using dx 11/12?

[frigid shell]

I have an RTX 2060 Super with I7 5600-K

And I use dx 12

[prisma haven]

does it happen when you turn on the teamcam?

[frigid shell]

No it happened twice so far, as soon as I shoot a suspect with beanbag

[fleet fossil]

in what situation it froze

[frigid shell]

After I shot a suspect with beanbag shotgun in Sinuous Trail

[prisma haven]

oh that's just weird

[fiery lotus]

does one person need the dlc for all to play or must all own it?

[shy tulip]

Just the host

[frigid shell]

I prob need a new PC anyway. My current one is almost 5 years old

[fiery lotus]

thanks

[fleet fossil]

uhh strange

[frigid shell]

I’ll try dx 11 and see if it performs better

[vale mason]

Only the host

[frigid shell]

Btw is it hard to aim with the beanbag shotgun or am I just that bad?

It’s as if I’m shooting the suspect but it’s not registering as a hit

[crude prism]

beanbag shotty fires an actual slow projectile that can drop slightly at range, everything else in game is hitscan (only pepperball/beanbag/launchers fire projectiles)

[frigid shell]

I see. How should I aim better with it?

[crude prism]

It just takes a bit of getting used to, if a suspect is walking side-to-side, try aiming at the edge of their torso in the direction they are moving

you don't really need to account for drop unless you're trying to cross map people on port or something

just need to practice small amounts of leading

[frigid shell]

Yeah it can be challenging especially when they’re shooting you

[mighty nimbus]

All mod is not working could you help me guys ??

[gilded sparrow]

Is there any kind of decrease in power/effect of the beanbag on an armored, clothed, or shirtless suspect?

[earnest totem]

yo i have a rtx 1650 super should i use dx11 or dx12

[bitter mason]

mods are likely outdated

[earnest totem]

mods made after the 23rd will work unless people update their old mods

[mighty nimbus]

okay thank you guys

[silver palm]

Ain't no way he got the special rtx 16 series

[earnest totem]

wut

[silver palm]

You wrote rtx

[earnest totem]

yea

i just automatically call nvidia gpus rtx

[mellow ridge]

an rtx 1650? that's a thing?

i didn't even know of a gtx1650

[earnest totem]

is rtx different from nvidia???

[silver palm]

I mean there's no rtx 1650 obviously

[earnest totem]

oh it's gtx LOL

[mellow ridge]

cut the guy a break lol he meant gtx

[earnest totem]

ok well anyways i have a gtx 1650 super dx11 or dx12

[silver palm]

I know I was only waiting for him to realize it

[mellow ridge]

probably dx11

[mellow ridge]

dude i was super confused didn't even know of a gtx 1650 until googlin

[silver palm]

YO that's harsh though

[mellow ridge]

hey if you're the gpu magician, what would you pair with a r5 7600x and 32g DDR5? Lol didn't mean to be harsh

[silver palm]

What resolution you're going for? I got a whole schematic

[mellow ridge]

1080p. I already have the pc built, just recently actually, I'm just curious what you think for a card. 1080p 144hz gaming.

[silver palm]

This isn't really related to RoN now that I think about it let's go to DMs

[knotty crest]

For the Beat Cop achievement, does everyone in an online lobby have to use the handgun for someone to get it?

[misty island]

@sly fulcrum are you doing that in MP or SP?

What just happened here?

[sly fulcrum]

MP

[misty island]

Try SP.

[knotty crest]

I've already done the challenge and I want to use a shotgun for the larp but I don't want to mess it up for my friend.

[sly fulcrum]

Alright

[misty island]

Try it out. In SP AI can use whatever they want.

[knotty crest]

I don't really want to get all the way to the end of that challenge and find out it is not worked for him tbh

[misty island]

Wouldn't it be quick and fun? 😄

[viral spire]

Thumb over bore for the combat grip is silly.

[grave helm]

how do I get rid of the bug where all my NVGs , gas mask, etc, are equipped even though I only select 1? Its driving me crazy

[earnest totem]

did u have the nvg always available mod?

[grave helm]

got rid of all my mods

[earnest totem]

then idk

[grave helm]

:C

[stoic vortex]

My headcanon is that Swan is a dork

[restive scaffold]

is it normal for RoN to eat 75% of my cpu?

[bronze mountain]

Bruh why does this game hate me. I’ve had over a dozen S tier runs where an enemy shoots another enemy at the very end, but this is a new one. I used a stinger too close to myself and i guess it screwed me by ONE POINT

‘Friendly fire’

I’ve never had a single S tier run work out

[viral spire]

It's okay man

The game doesn't hate you, it's just mind-numbingly dumb half of the time/it hates everyone.

[bronze mountain]

I’ve gotten probably 20 a+ runs on valley of the dolls without a success

[mental fable]

Will the suspects have attachments on their weapons just like the Narcos mission ?

[bronze mountain]

Sorry not valley it was carrier of the vine

[silver palm]

Did you delete the paks file in the paks folder? Not the WindowsNoEditor ones

[umbral oar]

how the hell do you do meldonin

[sharp grove]

Just S ranked Neon Tomb first try, feeling good :D

Only had to listen to the music for 24 minutes

[grave helm]

I did. It’s fixed now since I chose default

[knotty crest]

Very lucky, that mission gave me such trouble.

I managed to get very lucky on my Relapse S rank run and did it in one go.

[rose wadi]

My last 2 tries I got blown up by the sewerslide bomber

[tranquil swallow]

anyone here download any mods for this update?

[rose wadi]

Just the gear unlocker, vicreal effects, and IRL weapon names mods

[naive nova]

Anyone else notice big fps drops since the update?

[sand topaz]

lore question - anyone have info on why there's recording equipment inside the walls of police station? #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message lol

[cerulean remnant]

holoholic, gf basic, anim and ballistic, viceral, enhanced ron visuals, better vests and cosm fix

[sand topaz]

yeah its a bit worse for me - i could do 4k with no DLSS before now i do 1440p with DLSS to be smooth - 3080ti

[cerulean remnant]

working perfectly fine, for some reason im not getting the modded tag neither

[naive nova]

yeah idk, changing graphics settings barely changes fps and even changing resolutions for me doesnt either

[cerulean remnant]

fps got even smoother and the game feels more stable since the update

[sand topaz]

its definitely smoother at low FPS for me, but this also results in a bit of lag feeling - that's a UE5 thing

[naive nova]

It's for sure smoother, but im still getting massive drops and lower fps in general

[sand topaz]

i think they'll end up having to hotfix (hopefully soon )

[naive nova]

I prefer the performance of 1.0 fr

all of a sudden the game is unplayable in terms of fps

[sand topaz]

i get drops when i look at teammates mostly

[stone bay]

I read something about a fix dropping tomorrow.

[sand topaz]

i wouldn't count on it but it would be nice 🙂

[cerulean remnant]

ive seen a lot of ppl having performance drops after the update tho, but i was shocked when a homie that plays on a rx580 got even higher fps after the update

[sand topaz]

its a big of a mixed bag - depends on a lot of specifics of your PC

it seems majority got at least slightly worse, some lucky few got better, and some unlucky few got way worse

[naive nova]

Really just depends on your setup

The game definetly looks better though

[cerulean remnant]

yea, me and another friend of mine got higher and smoother fps after the update, he's playing on a 2K/3080ti and im on 1080p/6700xt

[sand topaz]

throw the lumen mod into the mix and lose those extra frames then

[cerulean remnant]

absolutely, ive never been as happy as when i looked at the ground and i could actually see a proper shadow of my character and teammates LOL

[sand topaz]

lol

[cerulean remnant]

im not trying to blow my pc to smithereens

[naive nova]

my pc is absolute dog, so whenever I load into a map I stand there for like 30 seconds because whenever I press any movement keys the game starts to freak out

No issues with moving my camera or anything, the frames just get choppy for some reason when im moving

[jovial torrent]

Has VOID said anything regarding the obvious quality issues with the newest patch?

[cerulean remnant]

weird, are you using dx11 or dx12? and going back I also get crazy drops when i look closely at teammates, i really cant think of the reason behind of that neither

[naive nova]

dx11, but again my pc is pretty bad

[stoic vortex]

is it possible to die by punching?

[cerulean remnant]

u actually dont die but u get knocked tf out, u can get "the fool" achievement like that with voll's wife

[stoic vortex]

cus i got bitchslapped by some hobo in dorms and it made the beep sound

[cerulean remnant]

ive seen ppl get fps boosts on safe mode, have u tried that?

[tranquil swallow]

for people who are having bad performance what is your gpu

[novel walrus]

PLEASE FIX THIS WATCHMEN ISSUE ITS CANCER

[tranquil swallow]

i've found a huge performance boost with this patch. I have a ryzen 5 7600X and 4060Ti

[cerulean remnant]

what did you do mane

[naive nova]

Sure ill try, but I dont even have any mods on

[subtle delta]

whatd you do ?

[sly orchid]

Yo guys I need help with something

[lyric seal]

What’s up buttercup

[sly orchid]

Alright, so I have the flux raider

And the little tiny IR laser is like affixed to it. I can equip the flashlight and then it shows both attachments on the weapon but only the ir laser works

I've restarted the game, my computer, uninstalled and reinstalled, verified files and still cant figure out how I'll get that darn laser off lol

[tranquil swallow]

i have the bad boys theme for my menu in game

[lyric seal]

Interesting, you’ve covered most of your bases. Try taking it off, leaving the arsenal, deploying, come back and try again

[sly orchid]

That did nothing

[lyric seal]

Welp… I’m stumped

[split citrus]

Change Log Update:

Significant AI behavior improvements for suspects and civilians at the start of engagements, during them, and while surrendering
Multi-faceted substantial improvements to performance, including adding new tools such as:
FSR 3.0.4 added in addition to an upgraded DLSS 3.7
PSO pre-caching to reduce stuttering
Upgraded game to Unreal Engine 5.3
Enhanced audio immersion and quality across the game, especially through reverb improvements

👆 Now this is what I like to see, real quality of life improvements, especially for the A.I which is a major component of the gameplay. About to play this game to see how this goes. New Maps and weapons don't do much for me anymore.

[novel walrus]

You can already get better ai with mods

[split citrus]

The point is I need to see the developers putting in an effort to improve the game they are selling. mods or not

And not just throw maps and weapons at us like the Insurgency Sandstorm devs are doing.

[novel walrus]

Took them a year to add this you are expecting way too much from VOID lol

[tranquil swallow]

dlss and frame gen

[novel walrus]

And when we had cracked AI everyone was complaining the game was too hard so now we have this

[split citrus]

Expecting ANY effort is not expecting too much. We're lucky we're seeing anything beyond just maps and weapons. They could have just let the game rot like Sandstorm. 😂

[sly orchid]

Yo can someone please help me with my flux raider lol

[sullen parcel]

will gun and attachment mods still work or will my game crash

[past gulch]

bro my friend joined a game and when he stands he is HUGE like the size of the entire map

[sullen parcel]

nvm read pins

[split citrus]

Hell why can't these other devs upgrade to Unreal Engine 5 if Void can do it? Come on😐

[subtle delta]

if im on some reshades would it make my game look bad

[coarse musk]

would something happen to be wrong with the servers

[ionic gale]

I’m looking at some of the gameplay trailer from the old alpha & beta stage of the game in 2019 and 2020

Lots of disappointed people upset about how the game has “turned out”

Wasn’t everything “subject to change”or am I missing something?

Some features it does suck not having but I get why it was not added because it was a very early part of the games development

I get people’s frustration tho

[stoic vortex]

FN FNC in RoN

to larp as Detective Vincent Hanna from the hit 1995 Crime/Drama movie, HEAT

[bright reef]

Anyone else have issues with the P320 raider attachments. I've managed to get an IR laser permanently attached and can't use any other lights / lasers when I equip them

[twin citrus]

i've had this happen before with the beanbag shotgun

[coarse musk]

how do I fix this said error where you can't join a host because you lost connection or something

[livid zenith]

Any tips for getting an S rank on port hokan? I've came so close multiple times only for my units to either dome or firing squad one of the last guys with their pistols... I've got them all equiped with beanbag shotguns and they have 0 pistol mags. I can clear a pretty decent bit on my own, but by the time I reach the end of the warehouse my officer isn't doing too great typically.

[coarse musk]

I will do this and teach u how

[cerulean remnant]

i spammed the warehouse with cs gas LOL

[livid zenith]

yeah I've got my guys with a ton of stingers, but that might be a good idea

[cerulean remnant]

i had bots spamming with me as well, i wasnt risking it at all

[coarse musk]

I'll show u how but u gotta help me with one small thing

[livid zenith]

CS was my go to for alotta s-runs, I just didn't know how well it would work on Hokan, its so damn open

[cerulean remnant]

it works pretty well, worked for me at least, i exclusively used the inside the warehouse, and i had 2 bots using shields as well

taking the lead with the shields deployed almost all the time

[livid zenith]

Do the bots shoot from behind them often? I've had 2 perfect runs where they domed one of the last dudes

[cerulean remnant]

if they dont have any mags on their sidearm they will either hotswap to their primary or just sit still and look at them with the shield up

[livid zenith]

I've been giving them 0 mags but on my last run I watched the homie whip out the service pistol and dome a dude from across the warehouse

[lost rover]

Patch out now?

[cerulean remnant]

damn, yea that didnt happen to me at all

[livid zenith]

its weird, when I have 0 ammo allocated to my pistol, mine starts empty, theirs does not lol

[cerulean remnant]

im pretty sure it does spawn them with empty sidearms, never seen them with ammo in theirs, have u double checked?

[livid zenith]

I've triple checked, but I'll do it again rq, might as well give them shields

yep, all AP and JHP ammo on sidearms for each officer is set to 0

[sick pine]

ok ngl so far

im running the update rlly nicely

[feral river]

anyone else cant play online right now?

[quaint bone]

updates good except for the performance hits, which should be addressed with tommorow's patch

the flux is one of the 'cooler' looking weapons in the game but its actually the worst weapon in the game lmao

[feral river]

as it should be

[sick pine]

ooh i see, well idk im having no fps drops or anything so far

[quaint bone]

if you have a top of the line computer yeah, I think you are okay or if you play on low settings

but my 4080 chugs in way more areas now for whatever reason, I think it just has to do with the engine switch

Also the San Mateo Apartments (streamer map) has way too much fking fog now

[novel walrus]

Glad I didn't get a 4080 then 5080 here we come

[sick pine]

idk im running a 3060 and its 60 fps

[fervent surge]

that new achievement on dorms to do it in less than 5 minutes is the dumbest thing ever. It is nearly impossible to do solo. Not to mention how exciting it is to do in a game which is not designed to be mad gun & run... this is more like COD achievment stuff...

[novel walrus]

You could give multiplayer a try this is very easy with players.

[fervent surge]

yes in MP it surely is, but why it should be designed this way? I am not fan of joining sessions just to speed run stuff

[novel walrus]

This is more of a multiplayer game then singleplayer game that's probably why

[novel walrus]

Then surely you don't need or deserve the achievment then?

[wintry basin]

A pair of friends I used to play with dropped the game definitively, after the update the game started running horribly bad for them. Before the update I also experienced horrible performance issues. This game is really good and it truly doesn't deserve this, I now it is not easy but you may be losing a bigger playerbase if the performance is not optimized

[novel walrus]

There's more players now then before the update playing now though?

[tribal slate]

will we get a hotfix Friday?

[twin citrus]

its not intended to be done solo
my fastest time was 3:14, and i needed 3 others to help with that

[stone bay]

I don’t get the point of the deploy command….i can’t command them to throw it into a room, why would I wanna throw a smoke in the hallway I’m in🥲🥲🥲🥲, or am I either using the command wrong or asking for too much

[feral river]

where the fuck is the last civilian in dorms

[novel walrus]

In one of the rooms

[livid zenith]

I see so many conflicting answers online, can you get an s rank with lethal weapons so long as no one dies

[mortal aurora]

i uninstalled my mods before the update

and my gas mask from old gunfighter is still on my character

[umbral oar]

u can do it in mp??

[vocal night]

Unless they changed it with the update nobody can die or get incapacitated

[fallow warren]

No. No incapacitated either.

[livid zenith]

god port hokan is gonna drive me insane then lol

[vocal night]

Its not that bad with beanbag

[fallow warren]

Nah, Voll is the real challenge

[livid zenith]

already did ever map aside from this one

[vocal night]

Voll house was the most challenging for me too

[twin citrus]

the speed achivement? yes

[mortal aurora]

can someone give me an answer so i can fix it

i really dont wanna have to wipe my whole game

[twin citrus]

uh
do you still have the mod?

[mortal aurora]

no i uninstalled before the update

[fallow warren]

Go in your files and delete the pak file

[twin citrus]

uninstalled it from the website or removed from the files?

[mortal aurora]

from paks

[fallow warren]

Then I'm afraid you'll have to do what I did by mistake: Wipe it all.

[mortal aurora]

ah shit

[twin citrus]

uhh

[umbral oar]

did u try using the default loadout preset

[twin citrus]

yea maybe just unequip the gas mask
and it might go back to normal

[fallow warren]

After 6 hours I got Voll unlocked again and WILL S rank it because I earned that hawaian shirt. Even if I have to do with the ai this time.

[mortal aurora]

it was gas mask on the gunfighter tho

so it was in the menu

[twin citrus]

oh wait

[mortal aurora]

honestly it dont matter i
think ill survive

[twin citrus]

i see what you mean
im not sure

maybe try reinstalling gunfighter

[vocal night]

I think gas mask model changed with the update are you maybe mixing those up?

[umbral oar]

Click the default loadout preset it might remove it

[mortal aurora]

i have new gunfighter

[mortal aurora]

tried already, should i be on directx12?

[twin citrus]

are you on safe mode?

[mortal aurora]

i dont think do

[twin citrus]

switch it to safe mode
and then switch back or just roll with safe mode

[mortal aurora]

when im home from gym i'll check

[sick pine]

one thing i dont like about the whole shadow thingey

is that shadows on the character faces are literally nonexistent, its why i mostly run dark shades or whole masks

genuinely cant take good pictures with it which sucks a lot

specially with any type of eyewear or goggles, their shadows do not render and it looks very goofy sometimes

[lapis tartan]

The latest version of Gunfighter Device has been updated and the equipments like NVG and Gasmask has been re-added in the Tactical section.
Maybe you can solve it by reducing the quantity to 0?
Sorry I can't reproduce your problem because I directly wiped my game save after update.

[mortal aurora]

wym directly wiped

[bronze sequoia]

Can suspects kill you if you if they hit you too many times

[vocal night]

Yes

[bronze sequoia]

And you still get punished for killing them?
Do they intend they change that? I feel like that's kinda bs

[ionic gale]

Like I’m sorry if you kill one of my officers, I’m not gonna take you down non-lethally

If you want to surrender after killing one of my boys well then that’s fine. I’ll let the justice system deal with you, but if you continue being a problem with the rest of my officers you will be getting 5.56 to the upper abdomen

[bronze sequoia]

I didnt know they hit you, I just got my replacement GPU and when I went in to hit someone to get them to surrender they hit me back, so I killed them and TOC yelled at me
Like who really thought that was a good idea to add? Only dumbasses hit a cop who's trying to help them

[rose wadi]

Like, with their fist? What kind of jackass shoots someone who is unarmed?

[ionic gale]

Daniella?

I have mag dumped her at least once in one run of VOTD

Because she’s annoying asshat who keeps yelling at the men with rifles pointed at her

[feral river]

the game is giving me a loading screen message about modded maps because im trying to play rust belt

the game doesnt even know which levels are vanilla i guess lol

[rose wadi]

The glorification of police brutality is the one thing about the RoN community that irks tf out of me. It's so gross.

Especially since the game beats you over the head with it's message of how it's bad

[feral river]

if you physically assault a swat officer, you deserve whatever happens next

[rose wadi]

What happens next is you get charged with the crime

[fallow warren]

There's also a thing known as detachement. I would never let my emotions take the better of me with a rifle in my hands when I'm on duty because I am holding 30 lives and deaths, at least as many grieving significant others, parents and children or as many supper with those people + one in the chamber. In game, I don't care.

I'm holding lines of code with which I can do as I please without any real consequences

[ionic gale]

Yeah, every time Mrs Voll pushes me I will pepper spray or bop her with my gun

[bronze sequoia]

An officer who is attacked and doesnt know if that person means to kill them or not

[rose wadi]

The game isnt that deep

[ionic gale]

I am a SWAT dude just trying to do my job, pls Daniella just comply

She has killed me at least once and that made me say very mean things to a bunch of pixels

I insulted a woman who’s is just a few lines in Python

[dusty shuttle]

Me putting on the godmode mod and raiding AVs house

[ionic gale]

I like the UMP

[bronze sequoia]

If I am hit not knowing if it was by a knife or not I am shooting that person, if it's a civ I shouldnt get punished for it

[fallow warren]

You should

[rose wadi]

You should

[fallow warren]

You are supposed to be trained to VERY QUICKLY recognize situations

[rose wadi]

Be better aware. You have an enormous healthpool

And your teammates yell out what they are pullout out as they are reaching, before it's even out

[dusty shuttle]

The whole point of the game is to bring order to chaos, not make widows and orphans

[fallow warren]

During basic training I was thaught that even if they have a gun, de escalate the situation. The moment they raise it it's on.

[bronze sequoia]

This isnt an ultra-realistic SWAT game, there is no in-game training, it is not a realistic sim, sometimes they hide a knife and if my screen is blurred I cant see if it was a knife or a fist
either way attacking an officer isnt something you shouldnt expect to walk away from if they know armed suspects are in the building

[fallow warren]

You're not making sense. You expect lines of code to know what you know when they are just lines of code

[simple ore]

im trying to get the dev watch

if an officer dies but gets revived by paramedic, will i still be eligible to get the watch or no

[bronze sequoia]

I expect devs to not make civilian AI that hits an officer for no reason

Give me 1 good reason you, a civilian, would hit a law enforcement officer

[dusty shuttle]

Someone didn’t read update logs, it’s called stress

[fallow warren]

Place yourself in the stead of one of those suspects: You're just "relaxing" with some drugs, then a bloody swat team bursts in, yells at you and shoots the guy next to you. Do you think you would react calmly or try to GET OUT

[jolly verge]

You will get watch, just make sure officer did not fall down on last mission

[rose wadi]

You just want the game to be CoD's "No Russian" mission tbh, so I'm leaving this conversation. You dont make excuses to justify shooting people after the fact, and thats the point of the game.

[dusty shuttle]

Theres a reason the only way to get S rank is non lethal.

[bronze sequoia]

No, I just want common sense
If you hit an officer that is your own fault, idc how much stress you have, hitting a law enforcement officer is thew stupidest thing you can do, just comply with them, they have guns pointed towards you

You shouldnt expectr to walk away from hitting a law enforcement officer in a situation with armed suspects

[dusty shuttle]

If the AI had common sense, the game wouldn’t exist. The fact is they are human, they are scared, they want out.

[fallow warren]

Try to stay this logic when your door blows up and 5 heavily armed men in lvl 4 plates scream at you.

all in less than 3 seconds, might I add

[bronze sequoia]

And the people with LSPD on their uniforms and dressed in blue are trying to help them get out

[stone bay]

Is this an issue with new update or have the guns always been so shiny? Almost every single rifles now look like they have shoe shine on it

[ionic gale]

wuts happening rn

[bronze sequoia]

If the people blowing open the door wanted to kill tghem they wqouldnt yell at them while getting closer

[dusty shuttle]

You don’t know how the human mind operates

[ionic gale]

Maybe some dude dropped a comically large bottle of shoe polish and he dropped it

[fallow warren]

So you never attempted high scores in the game. You play like a death squad, I play like a LEO

[ionic gale]

The entire armory is now glistening

[ionic gale]

I try to be a cop too and do my best with civis and stuff

I’m pretty sure that’s how most people play this game, I want to bring justice to this city

[fallow warren]

Once more, try to think about this when your door blows up and a swat team screams at you. You are deafened by the explosions, ears are ringing, vision is blurry, you don't know what's going on, but sure, you will calmly lay down on the ground. Or maybe it's gas, where there is a conscious choice to make, which I know from experience: Keep your lungs functionning. focus on staying alive by breathing, or answer a question you can barely understand because you are focusing on your living functions still operating.

[ionic gale]

FoR goTHAM

[split citrus]

Anybody else having issues loading the game up ever since the DLC released? Only seems to want to work in "safe mode" with no mods.

[shy tulip]

That means you have mods still, #❓modding-faq-archive

[split citrus]

🤔 hmm

[bronze sequoia]

Like you're some kind of psychology expert

[topaz mango]

Are there plans to add ADS sensitivity?

[last root]

How do I play the dlc in single player so I can have my AI team with me

[shy tulip]

Practice mode

[split citrus]

So am I deleting the "windows.pak" files? Or am I leaving those alone?

[shy tulip]

Leave those alone

[split citrus]

Ah, so just the mod folder then.

mod.io

[ionic gale]

Hello

[knotty crest]

Even if it was the perfect scenario where the person was perfectly cognisant, a lot of people just don’t act rationally in the heat of a stressful moment.

[ionic gale]

I think it’s reasonable to think that you’re going to at least get hurt when a bunch of swat dudes burst in barking orders at you asking where any possible suspects are

So that would make you of course go crazy

[knotty crest]

Some people just don’t immediately think that or even register it though, and at the end of the day the LEOs have to work around this.

[ionic gale]

Yeah, the cops are trained on having to de-escalate situations

Psychology is a important thingy around these parts

[knotty crest]

And in Volls wife’s case, I think it makes perfect sense that she would be so indignant about police barging into her house.

[ionic gale]

She probably doesn’t know that her husband is a pedophilic hack and is really angry at us barging in of course

[knotty crest]

Imo shes probably complicit in some way, at the very least she most likely knows you are there for him.

[fallow warren]

To her this also means her lavish lifestyle is over.

[ionic gale]

I am bringing Justice to this city

I’m very sorry that you won’t get to live in that fancy ass house anymore because of your husband being a perv

her fr

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-im-batman-michael-keaton-ezra-miller-barry-allen-gif-27553466

[ionic gale]

I have my own little theory with the TV when you first enter the living room

People have been saying that the girl on the TV who is Daniella looks a bit young which uh I’m not surprised if you guys are getting what I’m getting

[fallow warren]

It's Voll and his wife about to get it on. And yeah, she's most likely under 18

[minor harbor]

When is this game ever on sale? I’m thinking of getting it

[knotty crest]

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, the porn industry in general is extremely greasy.

[ionic gale]

In carriers of the vine, in that conspiracy board that Raskin has, there is a magazine covers, saying that ||Voll may not face charges||

[shy tulip]

Pretty much major sales

[fallow warren]

give it a couple months, we just got a DLC so it would make sense.

[minor harbor]

Is there a sale on Black Friday?

[shy tulip]

I think so but I honestly do not remember if Steam does that

[minor harbor]

I think they do, not sure tho

Dude imagine the school map came out right when school went back into session 💀

[knotty crest]

You’ll probably be waiting until fall.

[fallow warren]

That's nothing compared to the neon tomb drama

[ionic gale]

||Wonder if Voll will just bribed his way out||

[knotty crest]

There is typically a sale around then.

[minor harbor]

Oof

[mint night]

remember back in the day when you could breach a door by throwing an arrested threw it ....

[minor harbor]

Meh I can wait, that’s like two months

[minor harbor]

-# what

[fallow warren]

I remember when we didn't even have a shooting range... good times

[mint night]

yup pick up a suspect or civi thats been detaned and throw them at the door to breach a door worked great LOL

[fallow warren]

Back when the precinct actually looked underfunded

[ionic gale]

All of the money went into the precinct’ make over, and now we don’t have any cash again

It’s like buying a Lamborghini after like a $1 million dollar scratch ticket got you money

[minor harbor]

Think I can run this game on a 1060 and an I5 4590? (Yes ik that’s super bad)

[ionic gale]

Damn, the LSPD has some really bad spending habits

[knotty crest]

Tbf I prefer the new precinct, the weird train station one felt strange.

[mint night]

with massivly reduced grafic settings you could try ??

[fallow warren]

We all canonnically have the 99' gear on because we can't afford modern equipment

[minor harbor]

Lol

[ionic gale]

They keep pissing away the budget on all of our 5.7 addiction

[mint night]

you be supprised ,,, i dont want to assume your abilitys to tune a machine

[fallow warren]

We chill, I have a .300 addiction

[minor harbor]

I have a 6mm addiction (airsoft)

[mint night]

thats alife style not addiction

[knotty crest]

We are really living off those sweet sweet military surplus handouts.

[ionic gale]

Also we have a bunch of HK weapons lol

[fallow warren]

yehe, found another one. I'm getting the G&G Levar 15

[minor harbor]

Ooo

[ionic gale]

i’m actually planning to buy a HK416 airolsoof gun

[minor harbor]

I have one, it’s meh

[stone bay]

And 40k quad nods

[minor harbor]

Get something with MLOK

Quad rail is ew

[ionic gale]

Ah

[fallow warren]

Avoid keymod. It's a pain to find anything fitting it. Mine is covered in picatinny to cope.

[minor harbor]

mlok on top

[ionic gale]

A VFC MP5 seems very cool and I could customize it with a bunch of different hand guards and stuff like that although it’s too expensive

400+ freedom bucks

[minor harbor]

Idk what rifle but I’m getting the strike industries M870. Super cool

[fallow warren]

shotgun?

[minor harbor]

Ye

I’m going for a rouge swat loadout. I’ve got a good setup so far

[fallow warren]

noice. Gas or spring?

[still verge]

man i have no idea how im going to unlock this DLC

[minor harbor]

Green gas.

[ionic gale]

I’m also planning for a custom M4 rn

[minor harbor]

10 buckaroos (to me)

[mint night]

same its supposted to be sent to us early supporters

[ionic gale]

It’s a later project tho

[fallow warren]

I'm going for a bounty hunter/boogaloo boy look. I just need a very specific raincoat and some black spray paint

[mint night]

ive bought 8 coppies of the game at 86$ can for my friends

[minor harbor]

Lol

[still verge]

also when i complete a mission its still "unresolved" kinda annoying

[minor harbor]

ME ME I WANT ONE ME-

[mint night]

its about principle for me at this point ... im a early supporter pack , its down to principle i will obviously buy the 10$ dlc if it doesnt come as promised

[mint night]

per copy

[fallow warren]

I need the Mercantile Trading Company model 2700 to complete the bounty hunter look.

[minor harbor]

Gah damn

[ionic gale]

Ima just get a black MLOK m4, a classic lil guy

[minor harbor]

I’m getting some sort of Mlok ar15

[fallow warren]

You should already have it then

[ionic gale]

An airsoft rifle I should say

[minor harbor]

Same

[ionic gale]

I like the GA416 in game

My fav rifle so far

Makes me feel like a Gravy SEAL

[mint night]

look in #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[cyan verge]

I went now everywhere and while the new voice system and the evidences in the evidcnce locker are pretty nice i still feel this could be more.

I felt for a long time that the world feels empty of life. a cutscene for after or before a mission would be nice.
Something that gives us the player a discussion with station detetectives for the ongoing investigation.

some policestation personal moving from one room to another and doing some work.

and for mission crucial civilians or spelial objectives a animation or cutscene (just like the radio transmittion when opening the container with the naked woman of port) to give these missions a special feeling of uniqness in the mission. skippable of course.

the game has the potential to implement some GTA AI styled life and i bet it would look good.

[fallow warren]

There is a bit of life to it if you listen to the audio of the briefings. The 911 calls are great for immersion

[ionic gale]

Judge is the only SWAT character I care about tbh

[cyan verge]

i love them but this is less to the visual world itself

i mean yeah the maps are filled with information but no one to talk to about these findings

noone to discuess the connection between these things

[mint night]

theres some pretty cool mini visuals all over the place

[cyan verge]

the lore is so deep and yet the player has to come to this al by himself standing in a giant police station filled with detectives?

the latest update was good. but we need moreeeeeee🤤

i liked the interogation in the interogation room at the station

[ionic gale]

He’s the only one that has a interesting backstory and may have some impact on the plot of this games story

[rocky plover]

alot of retries, alot of cussing out the swat AI, jokes aside the way i managed to do it was with AI using lethal weapons, while i used beanbag shotgun then switched to the lethal pistol after i had 5 arrested suspects, i kept flashbangs to a minimum (like 1-2) so i won't waste alot of time throwing them etc... also i used battering ram due to alot of locked doors and after alot of restarts i managed to cut it under 5 mins

[still verge]

So I got the dlc but can't play any of the new maps. Do I have to complete all the missions first?

[shy tulip]

It is not playable in commander

[still verge]

I just want to play it in campaign mode

[shy tulip]

Same answer

[umbral oar]

Bro i just started incapping civs so they would stop giving me problems

[still verge]

So the new maps aren't playable for most people then? How strange

[umbral oar]

theyre so stubborn on dorms and u can still do the objective if you cuff them

[prime wing]

Practice mode

practice mode = commander mode without perks

[rocky plover]

yeah thats why i went with beanbag, shoot on sight, easy surrender with 1 shot (for the most part)

[umbral oar]

thats kinda smart actually

[rocky plover]

i also used the taser but beanbag alone is fine

[ionic gale]

Have you noticed that people have said that the mode names are kind of misleading in a way?

[rocky plover]

the most time waste and annoying part of that achievement is finding the last few civvies hiding, or commanding the AI to cuff someone but they straight out ignore you

[lost rover]

Is the patch out?

[ionic gale]

Technically, you could say that practice mode just the regular mode and commander mode is just some sort of hardcore mode and Ironman mode is hardcore+++

[rocky plover]

well practice mode is technically harder than normal commander mode since you dont have the perks of the officers

but you don't have to deal with the hassle of the stress system so yea

[ionic gale]

I never really played commander mode so I just see practice mode as the regular mode

[drifting sand]

The DLC, yes

[ionic gale]

Ik commander mode is supposed to be the main premiere mode, but it just doesn’t feel like that to me personally

[rocky plover]

same i did all S ranks in practice mode, only played commander mode with ironman for the world and the hermit achievements

[rocky plover]

yeah exact same

[ionic gale]

Yee

[prime wing]

No. The problem is that half the playerbase does not what the modes are. Some people didnt even know that practice mode existed and that it had SWAT AI. Mode that you can just select maps and play them without being in commander mode.

[shy tulip]

which is surprising to me because everywhere I saw at 1.0 it was like commander was the least played mode

[rocky plover]

true

[prime wing]

The mode is mid and people are somehow angry at void for not including new maps in commander mode. Which the only reason could be the benefits of the perks, which some can be useful, but I dont think they are that impactful in the bigger scope of things.

Dont know if the maps are gonna be available in CM, but it is still possible

[rocky plover]

i think people just either press continue or new game so it takes them into commander mode as default and most end up not even knowing that if you press on single player you have the option between commander, practice, training

[ionic gale]

Yeah i never played commander rlly

[ionic gale]

It also could be some weird thing where like it could be un lockables or something or maybe some weird story thing

If you add new maps to this DLC that you have to complete that would probably have to warrant more progression or something like that in the commander mode since you practically unlock everything so far after Port Hokan

[cloud breach]

are the balacalavas in game?

[ionic gale]

It also could be that the story could be conflicted or something like that I really don’t know what is going on behind VOID and why they did not put them in commander

[ionic gale]

For some reason, it’s tied to a new character called echo,

BTW you can’t switch characters in single mode and can only play as judge

So it’s a multiplayer exclusive character

[cloud breach]

gotcha thx

[ionic gale]

The mental health system is not that good and I just unlocked every cosmetic in practice mode

I’m pretty sure that so many people have said this, but I’m going to say it

Commander Mode doesn’t feel like a campaign mode or anything like that, it just seems like practice mode with officer management

It could be improved upon and I’m sure it will, but I just don’t play it because aside from achievement hunting, It gives nothing of value to me personally

[stone bay]

Same

[ionic gale]

If it gets better than yet, I’ll give it another shot but for now I have a save slot that is has two missions completed

[ionic gale]

I also wonder if any future DLC maps are not going to be compatible with commander mode

I wonder if this first DLC’s maps not working for that much. It is gonna be a one off thing or if it’s just gonna be something that will continue but I’m sure that’s unlikely

[cedar bane]

They won't be

[ionic gale]

well, if that’s the case uh

Kinda stupid?

Idk let’s just see what happens with the rest of the future DLC that comes out

Another thing that is somewhat nitpicky is uh the 4 officers not having much of a personality

No, I’m not talking about all of the officers in the commander mode. That’s not what I’m talking

[shy tulip]

Ngl, I like stress for two reasons

[ionic gale]

I’m talking about the 4 AI dudes we’ve been with for a while now , Swan, King, Eli and Prescott

[shy tulip]

1. I actually have to worry about arrests outside of score and mission objectives
2. I get to see people rage about not being able to kill everyone and have a swat team that works right

[ionic gale]

Yeah lul

[ionic gale]

Ik in the 1.0 update these four dudes were given some voice lines that they would comment on their environment and stuff like that

I think it was even something that was advertised during the entire update log to 1.0

Idk they have some lines that give me a chuckle & I kinda like one of their FUBAR lines in Caesar’s dealership when they find one of the dead detectives, but uh

[sly orchid]

Anyone experiencing the flux raider ir laser glitch?

[ionic gale]

It’s like eating spaghetti without the meat sauce,

It doesn’t hit the same and & something is missing

[ionic gale]

That is a glitch that I’ve been hearing people talk about in here a little bit so you’re not alone

[ionic gale]

SWAT 4, you guys probably hear a million comparisons about this game and ready or not but I’m gonna do another one here

I love Girard, Jackson, Reynolds and Fields

Sure, they’re definitely not deep & thought provoking characters and it’s not like Stephen King joined Irrational Games development team and wrote these four characters, but they at least had more personality and funny voice lines in missions that make me like these characters in missions

Swan, Eli, Prescott and King are like uh ok

The SWAT 4 cast are the 🐐 tho

[ionic gale]

These dudes can be my best men at my wedding

[novel walrus]

Please stay on topic

[ionic gale]

Anyways that’s my rant over

[stone bay]

Do trailers spawn in Commander mode post-update?

[noble pasture]

Yeah, only if you take long enough to clean it up

[quick jacinth]

Do 320 flashbangs count again the hanged man achievement?

[noble pasture]

Yes, they count as tactical

[quick jacinth]

Yip[eeee

[noble pasture]

I said they are against hanged man, dont use em

[noble pasture]

Just bring 7 taser mags and 6 hand held bangs

[quick jacinth]

5 tasers 6 bangs

i use heavy armor for side plates

[noble pasture]

Let bots do the heavy lifting but only let them kick doors, any tactical will invalidate the achievement outside hand held bangs

[quick jacinth]

What are you? insane?!?!?

i solo these achievements because i'm silly

[stone bay]

Rust Belt is a labyrinth

[sly orchid]

I absolutely hate when suspects toss their guns into the statosphere 😭

I would've gotten an a plus if they didnt fuckin toss it up onto some random ass shelf

[quick jacinth]

tell your AI squad to search the room and they will pick up bugged guns

if it happens in multiplayer well

[shy tulip]

I can confirm in future updates.. the host issuing commands will strip all agency away from other players and turn them into bots

problem solved

[rare estuary]

Doing all the dlc S ranks in narco they carry 3 guns each and they throw them in thr most invisible places

[noble pasture]

Does Raider X P320 have little damage?

I have trouble killing meth heads with it

[rose wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-crab-gif-7878845

[languid plaza]

I heard someone on reddit say that a performance patch coming tomorrow or today (not sure) and he said it has been confirmed by void dev is it true?

[waxen grove]

something is coming

is it a preformance patch? wait for it to release. its void. could make the game better, could make it worse

[noble pasture]

this is absolute BS, I wanted to wand a door on Lethal Obsession, a suspect kicked the door in my face and killed me. He couldnt have possibly known I was there

I am not taking that L

[waxen grove]

super human hearing. um did you have replays enabled. i would love to watch that

[noble pasture]

unless he can see through wood

[waxen grove]

for all i know the seam shots were not fixed. Were not listed in the change log at all so who knows, maybe

[prime wing]

tbh thats the risk of using wands

its a fair trade to get that close and they listen to it (superhearing)

[waxen grove]

what risk? the the ai does something stupid

Not really fair when its not a screw up on the part of the player

[prime wing]

Opening a door?

[prime wing]

getting close the door to use the wand is an advantage, but it comes at the cost of getting close the door. Someone could open it at any time

the cost/risk is being close to it

[waxen grove]

yeah someone could open it. I expect them to open it not breach bang and clear

[prime wing]

Theres no video of what happened so idk, but i assume it shot luna on sight after opening the door

[waxen grove]

i have had ai open doors in swat 4 before and its funny to see. but they will typically do it not knowing you are there then go for the kill not open the door for the kill shot

[noble pasture]

he wasnt just close to the door, he was humping it

[bitter mason]

Suspects just need animations for opening and kicking doors, cause right now they swing them open with mind powers with no delays between that and when they can shoot

[noble pasture]

also what armor does ghilie suit have cause it stopped my 300 blk JHP

shot him in the knee cap to incap

[prime wing]

same goes for the surrendering animations. Its easy to kill them since its not clear sometimes what they are doing

a bit erratic of them

like that one gif of pulling up the wallet too quickly

[jolly verge]

L3A

[bitter mason]

Definitely
No variations of surrender animation when they're like gassed or flashed is pretty lame
And I really would love the hesitate surrender animation from swat 4

Readability is still a big issue. Both from an animation and voice line standpoint

[tacit gull]

I'm hoping that's gonna be fixed with the new mocap they did in 1.1

[noble pasture]

now L3A stops JHP 300 blk?

massive nerf to rifles

[bitter mason]

Nah we gonna get those weird ninja knife animations

I am hoping the next update just focuses on the ai
Would like to get a preview of more they are doing

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-knife-tricks-gif-15115868

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-22342965

[cold swift]

Right. I hate that they always send their weapons flying in the air when they surrender

[tacit gull]

suspects on dorms going surfing

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/semoer-gif-4610077113986439820

[cold swift]

[prime wing]

I kinda like when they throw me on a loop sometimes

but sometimes its not on purpose, its just unclear

[tacit gull]

Oh yeah, wasn't there an animation where a cop was supposed to show you his badge? Does that happen ever?

[prime wing]

shit was removed afaik

[jolly verge]

nope, it's still 2 shots to incap

[tacit gull]

bruhh

[prime wing]

now michael does the phone thing

[jolly verge]

What weapon you used?

[tacit gull]

I think it would maybe make sense on the FISA agent

[bitter mason]

Would like them to fix around voice lines
Doesn't feel right having suspects yell in fear not to shoot as theyre pointing a gun with full intent to blast you
Any bait lines like that should only be for fake surrenders

[prime wing]

to be fair

ive seen that happen

[tacit gull]

I do like when suspects yell 'don't shoot!' as they start unloading their entire magazine into you

[noble pasture]

the new PDW Rifle, with OTM ammo

[bitter mason]

Honestly it just feels jank to me

[noble pasture]

or its JHP?

[jolly verge]

there is no OTM ammo in game

[prime wing]

"Im innocent, I didnt do nothing"

Pulls out full auto glock.

[noble pasture]

ahh, so its Gunfighter that adds OTM ammo

[jolly verge]

It's probably because mod change ammo pen class

[tacit gull]

never forget the tec-9 that had no firing cap so suspects could empty it in actual seconds

[bitter mason]

That's not so bad it's more like
"Aaahh waaah please don't shoot me 😭" bang bang bang bang

And they shoot at you before they even finish the voice line

Happens a lot on ends of the earth

[quick jacinth]

Slope suspects are strange

they have 500 hp (incap at half same goes for ALL NPCS INCLUDING THE PLAYER AND SWAT AI) and can spawn with either no armor or lvl 3)

[prime wing]

Im more concerned about the animations more than anything else. The lines i still think that they serve a purpose and it throws people on a loop, not sure if its on purpose or not.

Cant always rely on what people say

but at the same time

animations are kinda unclear at times

[bitter mason]

I remember looking at some of the ai valued and it seemed the slope suspects just get a bunch of random buffs to things in a very jank way to try and make them harder

[tacit gull]

My problem with the animations is the way they kind of cut eachother off and look unnatural

[prime wing]

ye

[vivid crescent]

So because i hate myself, gonna start permadeath.

[tacit gull]

Like suspect gets tased, entire body seizing up oh well guess i'll just put my hands up

[bitter mason]

Yeah
Biggest wish is just stop suspects wandering around pointing their weapons
Needs to be clearer phases for suspects, could also make room for stricter roe

[vivid crescent]

I just want gas masks to work on suspects and be required for SWAT AI.

[tacit gull]

I think the stresss system is the main culprit there

As basically any noise seems to set them on alert status

[bitter mason]

Perhaps
I really don't like the stress system lol

[tacit gull]

Oh yeah i think it's terrible

Basically punish the player for performing literally any action that isn't the taser

[vivid crescent]

I think it kinda works but I can see both sides.

It does mean suspects properly "get ready" as they hear gunfire and such throughout the building as opposed to just sitting around unaware like most.

[bitter mason]

I've said it a lot but it should be
Passive - weapon lowered
Cautious - weapon at the ready but not aimed
Combat- weapon aimed
Combat status should really only be for when they make contact with you and are actively shooting, or if they barricade in a room and watch a door

As far as I can tell from gameplay and replays
There's only passive and alert

[tacit gull]

There is a cautious state where they slowly walk with the weapon in low ready

I think they only hesitate in passive mode however

[bitter mason]

Needs to just be more frequent then
Also need suspects not to instantly resort to shooting also

[tacit gull]

It's definetly better compared to 1.0 now

[bitter mason]

Oh yeah I've noticed way more hesitation

[tacit gull]

1.0 was literally just suspect sees you: proceeds to stand still and shoot

Every single time

[bitter mason]

Though I'll say some suspects just need to be unable to take hostages
Because the streamers goons taking and executing his mom makes no sense
Well the goons don't make much sense anyways

[summer plover]

I wish there was a way to quietly issue orders rather than just SPLIT THE STACK ON THIS DOOR and OPEN IT AND CLEAR

[sly orchid]

one time on that one map with the ex usia analyst, me and my friend just got wallbanged with three shots each and he couldnt even see us

[tacit gull]

I had this one event with the FISA agent where he just took a hostage across the map and there was nothing i could do

[sly orchid]

We just got absolutely lasered lol

[tacit gull]

Completely ignoring the fact that it makes the objective bullshit if he does do that, as most of the time you can't even tell it's him

[bitter mason]

Yup
Had a streamer goon execute a dude on the floor below me on 23 megabytes while I was in the mother's house

[tacit gull]

He proceeded to execute the hostage without me even seeing him

[hasty crag]

i wish there were more TOC voices

[tacit gull]

yeah those would be nice

[quick jacinth]

Honestly Swat 4 would be a good inspiration for suspect hostility

every map has different suspect hostility like 23 mega having a suspect less likely to shoot you on sight while neon tomb and relapse are basically shoot on sight

[bitter mason]

Genuinely they need to like
Tone down the hostage taking now
Especially the executing

[prime wing]

Duke Nukem TOC

[bitter mason]

Suspects shouldnt always shoot the hostages, imagine if they threw them towards you to run away or fire at you. What if with a hostage they would slowly move towards an exit to try and escape
It has room to be way more dynamic

[quick jacinth]

I wish judge had more of a personality besides at the literal end of the game

[distant willow]

Every tryna play OCE

[tacit gull]

They do throw them towards you sometimes, doesn't always end in execution thankfully

[bitter mason]

Genuinely
I fear they took a bit too much from swat 3, since that game similarly had crazy aggressive suspects. But swat 4 is the perfect blend imo

[bitter mason]

Oh lmao
I'm yet to see it then

[tacit gull]

If that didn't happen i would not have gotten lawmaker S rank lmao

[prime wing]

i was clearing hospital, the suspect shot the civ (hostage) but he missed. He was being blasted with pepper balls

[bitter mason]

Oh lmao

[quick jacinth]

never touched swat 3 but swat 4 with the elite force mod is basically perfect AI (excluding the stupid strict RoE compared to RoN)

[vivid crescent]

At least the AI here waits a bit before opening fire, your own team was merciless in that game.

I do think LTL is easier than SWAT 3 but I do wish suspects didn't all act like hardened to the death criminals here.

You can really only change that rn in Commander mode and only if running traits.

[hasty crag]

man i wished they couldve added the P320 without the frame thingy

[bitter mason]

I don't mind the strict roe to some extent. sometimes it won't be super clear which sucks but otherwise being strict I think is what makes the game pretty fun and not just a murder clean up crew sim Ron tends to be played as

[hasty crag]

like two variants

[vivid crescent]

There is alot of guns sadly not usable despite the fact you could in early builds/suspects have them.

[hasty crag]

i remember there was a mod for that

[bitter mason]

Honestly every time I played swat 3 suspects would fire at me the frame they could see me
The swat ai is very impressive especially for a 90s game
But you can tell the suspects got the short end of the stick to some degree

[summer plover]

G18 did the fastest run of gas I’ve ever done

[bitter mason]

I like it's less clear cut level scoring since it actually made room for some dynamic npc interactions. The body guards on the church level got into a gunfight with the suspects on one of my runs and ended up getting shot

[vivid crescent]

I think what doesn't help is I think SWAT/Suspect AI doesn't need to hear "full" voice lines to react like I've noticed in a few games.

Like Suspects have decided if they'll surrender or not the instant you yell at them.

This also means SWAT AI will start firing at suspects at the "Drop" part of "Drop to your knees!"

Which looks really wrong to the player since it does kinda look like your allies straight up murdering people.

[bitter mason]

Hmm
I think if there was a delay to the compliance check it would mess up the game a bit, since suspects already like to immediately open fire

[hasty crag]

what happened to that fast food map tho? man that map was cool to play with

honestly they couldve put it in the new update

[bitter mason]

Gone... Gone to the big fast food place in the sky

[hasty crag]

i hope they add it back soon, same with the hotel maps

[bitter mason]

Yeah I did quite like the old barricade suspect hotel

[hasty crag]

thats the map i ALWAYS played

[bitter mason]

And old port
I liked the verticality of clearing up the abandoned building

[hasty crag]

it was a good map

and the big hotel map i think couldve been added in 1.0 too, its a huge map they put alot of effort in

[bitter mason]

Indeed..
If not getting in officially I'm sure someone might mod them in

I never managed to clear the big one. I didn't really like it that much because of how big it was

Never liked the stupidly big maps never felt like they fit the game

[hasty crag]

true that

the hospital map did end up in 1.0 tho

so why not the hotel map?

[bitter mason]

Unfortunately....

Least favourite level I think
Too big too many super aggressive suspects
Just tiring to get through

[quick jacinth]

MCX is a laser now with a brake

[hasty crag]

i mean its a good map but i dont like the idea of having a swat team of 5 clearing the ENTIRE hospital

usually in real life theres more than 5 swat i can tell u that

there gotta be more police officers on standby like they did in the new map

[umbral oar]

i noticed on dorms they aim without shooting you sometimes

[twin flax]

the map got reworked/replaced

[woven needle]

i love it when i crash halfway through the mission mmmmm my favorite

[woven needle]

it became the sins of the father

[lofty prism]

i hate the swat ai so much

they don’t check through windows and stuff and get me killed

[true ridge]

Why are people like this, it's a game ffs

[misty island]

Do people really read articles like this? It was obviously written by an idiot, so why care?

[prime wing]

pcgamer is trash. All big sites are, but pc gamer is worse

[true ridge]

They used to be so good when I was a kid

[covert aurora]

Is the rustbelt achivement funky? Cause playing in coop my friend got it but not me. And we both used a magnum

Or is it a host only thing?

[prime wing]

sorry for removing the article but im not gonna give them clicks, feel free to look it up

[misty island]

Treat it like another brain-rot. Internet is full of it. And remember - it is game journalist. It is required to be dropped by patents in childhood to become one.

[prime wing]

There are many issues with the game, focusing on the "police military" is silly.

[misty island]

I think achievements are still.kinda broken in MP. There was another problem with DLC achievemnt.

[covert aurora]

Ok

[opal holly]

anyone got that data base thing with all the guns on it?

[misty island]

You mean by MMMM?

[opal holly]

wat

[opal holly]

idk its like a google document or something with all the guns, armour and stuff on it

[misty island]

Oh, yeah, wait.

[true ridge]

Just annoys me that a really well made game can be put down by such a cheap shot

[misty island]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1886726900

[opal holly]

tysm

[misty island]

Good luck with S rank!

[opal holly]

thanks

[misty island]

Great? Meh... But the article is focuses on complete made up bullshit and not problems of the game. And from the whole article there is less than 10% dedicated to the article name. As I said - brain-rot.

[lofty prism]

i’m on that mission rn lol

[waxen grove]

whats teh best graphics settings for this game?

[fossil palm]

what's the most powerful pistol, i want to complete the beat cop achievement

[misty island]

Epic

[misty island]

Revolver is the most powerful, but can not penetrate L3 armour, while 5.7 can.

[umbral oar]

well… technically… the revolver packs the most punch

probably hell to use tho

[misty island]

Yes, you are right.

[tacit gull]

For narcos it's probably great

[umbral oar]

maybe, i used five seven for it

[misty island]

Meh, there is a 4 level armour guy and even with AP it takes 8 shots to incap him.

With revolver it would take 6.

[fossil palm]

ive equip my team with the 5-7 and a shield but the all died to the same gun

[jolly verge]

Only 5.7, there suspects with l3a and level 4 armor and only 5.7 pistol have 80% chance to stagger hitting armor

[umbral oar]

team can use any gun

[fossil palm]

omg what

[misty island]

Team? Do you mean AI? They can use rifles, only the player needs to use pistol.

[fossil palm]

thanks

[misty island]

How much % has revolver?

[idle iron]

chat how do I s rank elephant solo (The suspects keep killing civvies 2 minutes in)

[tidal olive]

how get balaclava

[misty island]

Be faster than suspects.

[jolly verge]

75 and it's cant even pen l3a

[idle iron]

im bouta speedrun the mission then

[misty island]

Go in multiplayer and change model.

[umbral oar]

i got the luckiest run for elephant, they were all in the entrance area

[idle iron]

always bet on ping dude fr

[fiery narwhal]

why does my game always crash for valley of dolls

I can hear the background music but my game just crashed

[misty island]

Send crash log in #💻tech-support

[fiery narwhal]

my bad, the game freezes so there isnt a crash log

[fossil palm]

supernova or m1014?

[misty island]

I had a freeze on the first DLC map, but never happened again. Ask in the channel, the might help you.

[misty island]

Slug can pen L3.

[fossil palm]

what dose buckshot do?

[misty island]

Tears limbs off.

[jolly verge]

m1014 or b1301 with buckshot only if your aim is bad

dont use choke on it

[fossil palm]

basically im going to gun the ai then im going to use the 5.7

[misty island]

Give them SA58 with AP.

[fossil palm]

8 mags be enough??

[misty island]

For who?

[fossil palm]

the sa58 with 8 mags

[misty island]

Givem them 3-4.

[quick jacinth]

B1301 has 1 more shell but it doesn't matter

i use the 1014 for style factor

uhhghghghghg i CAN't READDDDD

1014

pumps are useless

[misty island]

Pumps are for pros.

[quick jacinth]

Beanbag shootgun!

870 with integrated flashlight

[misty island]

Beanbag, my beloved.

[raw valley]

DEFINETLY the revolver, it one or two shots most unarmored enemies

[quick jacinth]

Or you dump 3 JHP into a suspect and he doesn't care

also Narcos has suspects with what appears to be lvl 4 armor so bring a 5.7 and aim for the face

[knotty crest]

Run only a 9x19mm handgun and get the North Hollywood shootout™️ experience.

[dusty shuttle]

As a guy who’s been in a school shooting threat. Yeah I think I know a BIT more than you on how the human mind works in these situations.

[knotty crest]

Getting into a prolonged gunfight with a guy running a beta-C fed AR with only your pistol is a very thrilling experience.

[fossil palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921528178789474314/1266333078683648050/image.png?ex=66a4c415&is=66a37295&hm=663c864071d0124026965f20094b2b611cdf1584430bb5e9f7c8ab89d4b34360& #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[misty island]

That's... awfull.

[fossil palm]

just so chaotic without flashbangs

[misty island]

Really? I wouldn't say so. Someone is just trigger happy. 😄

And do not use bangs - they are the worst.

[fossil palm]

the ai did most of the shooting

[waxen grove]

I mean best optimised settings. I have already found high to be the best setting for shadows

[misty island]

SWAT AI do not get "unauthorized use of force".

[misty island]

ATm, none.

[fossil palm]

fine, i saw the suspects head and shot it before it shot at us

[misty island]

Yeah, from that you got 1 unauthorized use of force and 1 unauthorized use of deadly force. What about second unauthorized use of force? And what about FF?

[fossil palm]

hostage!!!! got the civi not the suspect,
ff is because the ai walked in front the the barrel while i was trying to get the hostage... should of told them to move

[misty island]

As I ahve said - trigger happy 😄

[fossil palm]

sure

[stone bay]

this has probably been answered but I can't actually use the dlc? I just got it it didn't need to download I open the game but nothing has changed? do I need to open it from something else? or have I messed up somewhere

[misty island]

practice or MP.

[stone bay]

tysm

[clear cairn]

There is a number on one of the posters that reads "000 555 6521" to call the los suenos safety department has anybody tryed calling it?

[fossil palm]

its prob not real

[timid vault]

ay I have the DLC but the home invasion button for me is grayed out, how do I play it?

[stone bay]

woah is this shit ray traced or sum? did they use a diff lighting engine or js saturation

I had a modded gun in some of my presets, how do I delete those presets? Clicking on them crashes the game instantly

also where tf is the control for toggling gun light and laser?

[stone bay]

either equipment or interaction

oml tysm

[stone bay]

prferably without fucking my settings

[fossil palm]

you removed those mods?

[stone bay]

yes

its autofilled mk18 in the preview, but clicking crashes it and brings up the crash gui

[knotty crest]

Practise mode or multiplayer.

[stone bay]

just double check it is actually active under dlc menu

never hurts to check the simple things

[fossil palm]

so you could say the ai can use flashbangs?

[misty island]

everyone can use them, but stingers are just better.

[paper imp]

Will the DLC maps be playable in commander mode? Kinda useless if they arent

[misty island]

Not atm. No one plays commander anyway.

[paper imp]

what do y'all play then?

[stone bay]

commander is just practice except more dumb shit to worry about

[misty island]

practice or MP.

[stone bay]

practice and mulitplayer only.

[misty island]

I did the commander only for "The Hermit" and never again.

[stone bay]

real

if a customisation item requires a "B" grade, can I get an A and still unlock it or nah

[paper imp]

Why all the hate for commander mode