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[pearl shuttle]

Whack

[cedar sorrel]

Nice and big, they'd be so good to use with a flashlight. I normally use irons on stuff like hte Mp7 because they keep getting blown out by flashlights.

[shy tulip]

I have sent that to a dev, if they say anything i'll lyk

[jaunty horizon]

thanks

[shy tulip]

I don't have the link on hand sadly

[mighty needle]

my dlss is working great, as i slide the slider i see the quality change

[pearl shuttle]

Does TSR work?

[strange crane]

https://open.spotify.com/album/2fSdW9gnrCYmBfZ3dlwYja?si=M6lCqyeISTqrvp3LORVO9A not sure if this is it or not

[untold cloak]

nevermind I found it. didnt show up in search for some reason, i had to search in the artist's albums

[stuck sparrow]

Anyone else experiencing the P320 Flux Raider getting stuck on a particular attachment? Can't unequip the laser for some reason

I can put other attachments on it but the laser stays as well and acts as the active attachment

[clear dust]

what’s the total game size after the update?

[ionic gale]

hmm like 40 gb?

[shy tulip]

56gb

the update is 46gb install however, but the total is still 56gb (including DLC)

[trail surge]

I’ve kept asking this for the past hour or so but like. Is it possible to just like not play at all until mods u have installed currently are fixed in some way? Like I know you would have to check yourself And all that but like idk

[stone bay]

i feel stupid getting lost between all the houses on Narcos map

[ionic gale]

For safe measures, I would recommend not playing with mods until mods start getting updated for this new hot fix

[clear dust]

the game size is smaller before the update?

[stone bay]

if you take a second you can sort of find the flow of the map. you zig zag through the first six houses and then follow a linear path to the "end" if thats what you wanna refer to that scene as

[trail surge]

Yeah I’ll prob do that

[hollow warren]

Any luck? Feel like I've looked everywhere haha

[clear dust]

i remember the game is bigger before the update idk

[elder void]

Running on i9 14900k + 4090 RTX, experiencing split second stutters once or thrice per mission, but otherwise new maps were worth the wait

[shy tulip]

I think it was around 56gb before this update

[ionic gale]

[crude berry]

alot of my missions say unsloved, why??

[shy tulip]

I vaguely saw something on the forums about the 14900 having some issues in general, but also try the steps in #💬general-discussion and #💻tech-support pins

[hearty parrot]

did you complete them?

[shy tulip]

If you did not complete every objective, especially soft objectives, it is marked as unresolved

[crude berry]

yes

[shy tulip]

You may have passed it, but you didn't collect all objectives

[crude berry]

ok thx

[zenith glacier]

is it normal that most objects became so reflective

[red pollen]

i was wondering if the way to invite people to a friends lobby was changed? the invite button is blanked out so i have no clue what to do

[trail surge]

Multiplayer is kinda wonky rn correct?

[red pollen]

i assume so since i cannot invite anyone

is this occuring for everyone?

[novel walrus]

They removed that feature

[red pollen]

what was the reason given for its removal?

just curious

[ionic gale]

How wood u invite ppl? ;/;

[novel walrus]

Not with wood of course

[red pollen]

if not this, no clue. this is annoying me. if anyone can explain how to invite if at all, i would love to know

[stone bay]

just saw the stuttering mechanic in action, its interesting to see a dude fumble his gun, pick it back up, and then keep shooting as if there arent 5 armed men infront of him

[clear dust]

shift tab for steam won’t work?

[novel walrus]

People do crazy things in desperate times

[stone bay]

fair enough

[clear dust]

invite

[dreamy portal]

time to s tier all the levels again because it deleted my shit 😭 😭

[novel walrus]

you can just dl mod unlocks everything

[dreamy portal]

artifical content added

[ionic gale]

Damn, I wouldn’t give him the benefit of killing a officer of the law, I would’ve tased him

[dreamy portal]

they work?

[ionic gale]

That would be like actually deflating to watch

[pseudo tendon]

Is a i5 8400 and 2060 ok for the new update idk if it’s worth the upgrade

[karmic kayak]

is anyone else having an issue, I load in and I get a black screen

[novel walrus]

You try wacking your monitor

[stone bay]

Do presets now autosave, or do we have to save them manually?

[karmic kayak]

Fixed thanks

[ionic gale]

No still gotta save manually

[hollow warren]

Dorms soft objective: Bong at the far end of the corridor top floor

[near delta]

thats overkill

[stone bay]

just finished the dlc, i love it 🙏 got some aim practice in in terms of head tapping when a suspect takes a hostage

[crude blaze]

nah i have a 3090 ti with a ryzen 9 5900 and on max im getting like 50 ish on dorms

i had to go down a graphics setting to get a semi stable 60

[stone bay]

something ive noticed with ron is that performance issues are very specific

[rose wadi]

I have a 2080super and this update is unplayable on my previous settings. Had to lower to 1440p

[crude blaze]

yeah it might be my rezolution to i am running it on 4k

[stone bay]

also out of curiosity im asking this again cuz no one answered, didnt a situation similar to the mansion mission happen back in the 60s except the entire family was massacred

i think it happened to an author or something cuz we covered it in english class and i vaguely remember my teacher mentioning it

[merry dragon]

hey could someone make a slots mod rq

[stone bay]

got 3060 12 gb + 32 gb ram + i7-14700 and was playing on ultra, but now im on one preset lower and i had lags (had a moment of 19 fps on new map) but overall staying over 70

[ornate plume]

did the fps issues got resolved

[analog flare]

I sure hope so, but I doubt it

[winter lake]

What’s the verdict?

[stone bay]

split down the middle

[proper tendon]

hey guys just unlocked valley of the dolls any tips?

[analog flare]

Run and Gun

[proper tendon]

rlly?

[winter lake]

performance?

[static barn]

what do i do all my mods are not working it says corrupt files

[analog flare]

Ngl maybe its jsut my luck, but I run and gunned it and won somehow. Bring lots of Gas

[proper tendon]

alr thanks Braincell

[winter lake]

No mods are gonna work after this release

[short hearth]

Weapon inputs are now buffered, improving gunplay consistency and fluidity when firing rapidly in semi-auto. Mouse clicks made right before a weapon can be fired again will no longer be ignored; instead, the weapon will fire in response to those additional clicks as soon as it is able. This technique is essentially the same as input buffering that is used in many fighting games.

Sweet boys, I can now buffer my level 3 super behind my warning shots.

[analog flare]

An update dropped lol

[static barn]

yo what the game is gonna be so limited if theres no mods

[winter lake]

they have to converted to 5.3

[stone bay]

mid

[sharp grove]

Is there any way to play the new maps with ai alone?

[analog flare]

you wait for the modders to update

[winter lake]

The engine update requires all mods to be updated

[analog flare]

honestly next game update should improve mod support so the game can last so much more longer

[winter lake]

Give it at least a week

[static barn]

thats actually gonna suck so badly im just not gonna play for months ig

[short hearth]

My condolences.

[analog flare]

Play the campaign?

[prime wing]

Practice mode.

[sharp grove]

The tab "home invasion" is greyed out, unless I have to complete every other mission before accessing it?

[winter lake]

I need to rework the redux maps, probably gonna take a couple weeks at least

Elephants going to take top priority

[analog flare]

thats campaign lol

[sharp grove]

oof lol. Do yk if it is every mission first oor?

[analog flare]

it should progress

so if your last map finished was port home invasion should be open

[dreamy portal]

is there a 'map unlocker' for commander/practice yet?

[merry dragon]

how do i access the new station

[sage vapor]

Do I have to complete all the singleplayer story mode missions before accessing the DLC ones?

[sharp grove]

dangg alright. gotta get the grind on than. Only at Elephant rn

[gritty hill]

How do you get the balaclava

[analog flare]

Elephant should be easy

[rough oriole]

seems like i dont get as much performance anymore on new update... granted im running a bit of an older system. anyone else getting less performance as well? i used to be able to run a relatively stable Epic at roughly 55-70 frames but not anymore

[sharp grove]

Sounds like it

[analog flare]

They upgraded to UE 5 of course its gonna tank fps

[tough coral]

How do i start the DLC?

[rough oriole]

i thought ue5 was supposed to be the performance holy grail 😭

[covert aurora]

Pratice mode or mulitplayer

[sharp grove]

True. I am trying to do non-lethal first and foremost for every map. Only ever needed to use lethal on Greased Palms. But I feel like I might have to do the same just cause of the long ass hall ways/theator room/the stairway areas.

[analog flare]

if they "optimized" it lol. But I doubt they did

considering all the performance complaints

[covert meteor]

the lawyer map is terrible

[rough oriole]

seems like the lighting has changed as well

no opinion on it yet as i havent really experienced it much, just seems like its changed

[covert meteor]

2/10 update

[hearty parrot]

does the game still inform you its modded in the top right or are my mods just not loaded (theyre updated for this update)

[ionic gale]

What’s a simple definition of “optimizing” since it looks like that they’re switched over to UE 5 but they didn’t really do something special to make the performance not ass?

[covert meteor]

add 3 mid tier maps, 2 guns no one will ever use, and completely destroyed any optimization the game had

[lost rover]

How big is the update?

[covert meteor]

50 gb

acc w the size of the update and how dog shit it is 1.5/10

[sharp grove]

50 gbs as its a complete rework of what system they use. Honestly found uninstalling and reinstalling the game to be faster and most stable than updating. Idk why but seems to just work better for Ron updates

[mystic walrus]

gotta be honest

[sullen latch]

why is frame gen only available for DLSS but not for FSR?

[ionic gale]

It seems like that void switched over to UE 5 but probably didn’t optimize it or something

[lost rover]

Oh alright

[subtle gyro]

anyone else having the game not respond when trying to load up literally anything?

[crude blaze]

the new customization not showing up for anybody else?

[ionic gale]

Wdym

[crude blaze]

i have the tattoos but none of the new clothes are showing up for some reason

[ionic gale]

Did you buy the DLC?

[crude blaze]

yeah

[ionic gale]

Ah,

BTW these new clothing items are only for people who bought the DLC

The people who did not buy the DLC apparently got some new bootys

[dusty idol]

why arent the maps loading for me like i dont have the dlc at all

[errant iris]

yall fuckin with the AI now or nah

[crude blaze]

yeah the ai seem fine

[ionic gale]

I haven’t played it yet so I don’t have any clue

I hope their HRT aim was fixed

[covert meteor]

im really dissapointed in the update genuinly ruined one of my favorite games

[crude blaze]

gotta love it

[ionic gale]

what are ur main problems with it?

[crude blaze]

the negativity will be constant no matter what lol

[ionic gale]

I haven’t played it yet and my main concerns are the possible shit performance

[sharp grove]

Yeah. Only issue I find with them is when they like to stand in door ways making it annoying to close them and wedge. But that was happening before and after update anyways lol.

[crude blaze]

yeah the preformance took a hit tbh

[timid slate]

My performance just tanks on loading, once i’m in its just fine

[crude blaze]

even on my really good rig on dorms if i looked at the whole map it tanked my frames

[stone bay]

how's the new update?

[covert meteor]

performence is destroyed, cant get higher than 45 fps on low graphics

[crude blaze]

turned on dlss though and it helped a good bit

[ionic gale]

ah?

[rough oriole]

ill once again give devs benefit of doubt on optimization and stuff lol i just hope the game doesnt turn to abandonware in this stae

[crude blaze]

pretty nice apart from the preformance issues

[covert meteor]

it actually sucks

[ionic gale]

Hold up let me find something rq

[stone bay]

mixed messages

[crude blaze]

what resolution are you running on?

[ionic gale]

@covert meteor

[ionic gale]

I found this possible reason on why it could be poopy

[upbeat heath]

the suspects mouths move when shot?!?!

[sharp grove]

Same. Ik it can be difficult sometimes for devs to test out all the performance issues. Bet that in a few weeks with player feedback and knowledge of hardwares stats they will be able to patch it up. Assuming most testing for the game is taking place on dev builds with pretty nice computers to run it.

[stone bay]

I want to be critical of the development pace but I don't think I can really be critical of developers when I cannot comprehend the concept of creating a game

[crude blaze]

yeah pretty nice update though so far

[fickle trail]

The update just ruined my fps and i think the recommended specs should be updated.

[rough oriole]

im just frustrated by some decisions theyve made in terms of what they prioritize in the past lol but i get that nothings perfect

[misty egret]

11 slots isn't enough. I hope mod will update to give us at least 50 slot

I didn't have enough gear for wedges, bangers,

[copper delta]

11 -> 50 is quite a major jump.

[timid slate]

I do ask though, is the performance an actual fluke rn or is it just unreal 5

[timid slate]

Are you playing SP or MP?

[feral river]

anyone have any idea where the last suspect on greenside dormitories might be? we have cleared the building 3 times

[timid slate]

I just throw all non-essentials on my AI

[atomic reef]

:P

[sharp grove]

Yeah wait, QUESTION. How many wedges do you actually get when u choose 1 wedge?
Because maybe I've gone crazy but it feels like I always have infinite

[crude berry]

anyone else getting less fps now

[timid slate]

Everyone is

i still cant tell if its on purpose or not

It is a new engine ig

[crude berry]

but its like crazy, i used to get ~120

now i get around 70

[native rune]

If I’m correct all the maps are gonna run like dogwater the first time because shaders or something

[fair turtle]

quick question, sorry if its a dumb one, but i just bought the home invasion dlc and the option to select it is grayed out, am i missing anything or am i just a dummy?

[stone bay]

what do you guys think the cause for the frame drops is?

[fickle trail]

The new engine.

[feral river]

over 30 minutes looking for a suspect just to quit out to the main menu
thanks void

[stone bay]

probably.

[crude berry]

same

i think we need to complete all investigations or something

[fickle trail]

It not just frame dropped for me, but my specs are literally not suited for the game anymore.

[crude blaze]

this is very true actually

[fair turtle]

investigations?

[stone bay]

I hope mine are 🤞

[shy tulip]

It depends. Dx11 has no caching, so yes for the most part. Dx12 however will try to preload most of the map in the loading screen, hence why it is so FPS tanky to load now

[stone bay]

are the new guns locked behind the DLC similar to the supporter pack was?

[dark cove]

bro rappelling on the new mansion map would be so good

[fair turtle]

no, new guns are free

[stone bay]

nice, i assume that the new gear is too?

[fair turtle]

that, i do not know

[primal cosmos]

Just throwing my 2 cents in, the performance has been much more stable on my end. I used to be unable to use Dx12 due to stuttering issues, but I haven't had a single stuttering issue trying dx12 since the new patch.

[rough oriole]

whats ur card and cpu

[fair turtle]

id check the patch notes, should say

[stone bay]

i'm probably going to end up buying the DLC anyhow

[river tide]

is the backlava dlc only?

[crude blaze]

the card and cpu dont matter much

[rough oriole]

t.4080

[crude berry]

why is home invasion dlc greyed out??

[crude blaze]

im running on a 3090 ti and im still having preformance issues

[primal cosmos]

3070ti, intel i5-12600k

[timid slate]

I have never had an issue with performance, my keyboard and mouse randomly stop giving inputs thougj

[crude blaze]

i imagine its just do to the new map though

[merry kindle]

Same

[crude blaze]

its gotta compile shaders and stuff cause they didint precompile them which might be the cause of alot of them

[ionic gale]

The new gear is locked behind the dlc

[stone bay]

darn :(

[rough oriole]

ive got a 1080 and i7 7700k perhaps its pretty cpu relevant
4 core lockdown...

[sharp grove]

Am I able to complete the After the Storm and From House to House achievements in practice mode or do I need to go into multiplayer?

[fair turtle]

im gonna try finishing a mission and see if that fixes it

[primal cosmos]

I'll still need to play more before I can really say anything about the update, but I haven't had performance issues yet, and the AI improvements have been noticeably better.

[urban ledge]

hello people, ive purchsed the new dlc but im not able to play on the new maps, is ther any reason for this that im not seeing?

[primal cosmos]

Maybe, it seems like performance is really varying for people depending on what they have.

[fair turtle]

you arent the only one asking, we havent gotten an answer yet

[urban ledge]

oh alright thanks

[crude blaze]

have you tried reinstalling yet?

[urban ledge]

not yet

[covert meteor]

yeah i also noticed a lot of the base game missions had my S rank wiped

[sharp grove]

From what I understand it might not be available in commander mode, only practice and multiplyer

[crude blaze]

try that im about to just for the gear

[urban ledge]

alright thanks

[proven blade]

what mod adds rank tabs to the side, like sgt or staff sergeant etc

[urban ledge]

intresting

[fair turtle]

they were right, its available in practice mode

[fair turtle]

^^

[sharp grove]

Yeah, also does practice mode work for the acheivements?

[fair turtle]

thank you bread man!!

[sharp grove]

Ofc!

[stone bay]

Yeah it does

[sharp grove]

Cool thanks.

[stone bay]

The stingers actually deploy balls now. Fuckin’ awesome.

[tranquil swallow]

soundtrack coming soon

[jade pagoda]

BALLS OF STEEL

[primal gate]

With the update you now see your best time and best rank when selecting a mission, brilliant.,

[tranquil swallow]

@stone baythey have always deployed little balls

[deep rain]

I gotta say the villa map has the best and clearest level design of all maps. It doesn't feel aesthetically overloaded like typical RON maps.

[cloud sparrow]

sadly my frame rate is worse with this update and gotta replay a bunch of missions again

[rose wadi]

Lowering resolution to 1440p made an insane improvement

[quaint grove]

where do i find the balaclavas?

[cloud sparrow]

i did that, and dropped all my settings and even still not running as smooth
running in safe mode as well no mods

[rose wadi]

Fullscreen, and not borderless windowed mode? Sorry for the silly question

[cloud sparrow]

It's fullscreen but may be borderless windowed, not sure
I'll experiment with that though

[shadow mirage]

Is anyone having an issue that their game is not starting after updating the game?

[primal gate]

Are you running in DX 11 or 12 mode? Try changing that if you haven't already, see how it helps.

[south lotus]

does anyone have access to the new cosmetics for the dlc? I only see the new shirts and thats it

[cloud sparrow]

I think this was it. It was borderless windowed but "fullscreen"
Changed to fullscreen mode and FPS is a huge improvement

Thank you!

[rose wadi]

No problem! I had to change that and lower resolution down to 1440p and that fixed it for me too

[shy tulip]

Gonna test that

[vagrant rivet]

honestly beside the performance this dlc is great

[gritty hill]

How do we get the balaclava

[wraith kelp]

Pick echo as a chqracter

[urban trench]

I have to ask but why the decision from Devs to

1. Make you have to opt out of supporter edition and redownload the game to play the new DLC?

And 2. Why make "Story" missions but you can't even play said story in the actual campaign? But instead in only in Practice which doesn't count and multiplayer with friends.

[silk junco]

in the character select

[gritty hill]

How

[stone bay]

They have? I've never seen it prior to today.

[blissful harness]

Don't tell me I gotta reset my controls again..

[silk junco]

in the locker at the top

[primal gate]

Immediately I notice the lighting is different, in the police station it feels alot more blue, no more warm/yellow hue and.. fuzzy look.

[shy tulip]

Because that is not supporter edition, that is the test branch which is no longer updated. You have SE whether or not you opt into that branch.

As for the second, no clue

[rough oriole]

have devs addressed any of the new issues yet

[silk junco]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[stone bay]

anyone else feel like the game runs a lot smoother?

[shy tulip]

for some yes, for others, more work

[gritty hill]

Anyone else games crashing

[stone bay]

yes

[urban trench]

Copy thanks. Going forward just stay in the non SE version got it.

Hopefully the new DLC comes to Commander Mode. Because as it stands now I don't have friends to play with nor really interested. Like my single player and A.I. teammates and not interested in Practice Mode because lack of incentive to try such as actually trying to keep my dudes alive. Thus the DLC is pointless for me.

At least we get a balacava and guns.

Thanks for the reply.

[quaint grove]

where are balaclavas

[dreamy garden]

did tghey reset everyones progress for this update

[chilly forge]

I'm watching a yt stream on the new maps, and the ost for narcos is low-key slapping

[silk junco]

@quaint grove

[dreamy garden]

AND settings.....

[crude blaze]

its a multiplayer thing for some reason

[supple vine]

Is it me or did they made Ai a little more aggressive?

[quaint grove]

ty

[quaint grove]

i dont see it

[rose wadi]

I mentioned it an hour or so ago, but it may have gotten lost in the sea of scrolling text lol

[silk junco]

it’s only in multiplayer

in the character selector

[quaint grove]

im in multiplayer

[rose wadi]

For the first time in 40 hours of gameplay, im seeing them take hostages

[primal gate]

Seems I only lost progress for 23 Megabytes, strange.

[quaint grove]

i found it

[urban trench]

If DLC going forward is only multiplayer focused in order to access this is gonna suck for me as a single player guy. I just want a classic S.W.A.T. and R6 game.

[cloud sparrow]

may have to keep mentioning as people come into the chat haha
But yeah this was definitely the solution
I never would have thought about it

[dreamy garden]

I lost my 2 full ironman saves and a regular+all my loadout slots/cosmetics

[stone bay]

no

[gritty hill]

I have to play multiplayer to get balaclava bruh

[feral river]

where are soft objectives in narcos

[primal gate]

Hmm I had my loadouts there but some keybindings and graphic settings needed redoing.

[stone bay]

anyone has a solution for settings being reset after restarting the game?

[primal gate]

Rebind them

[ornate plume]

i want to send gif so badly but i fear i will send nsfw gif 😰

[hollow compass]

new dlc worth the $10?

[supple vine]

I have seen them Done that occasionally, But Whenever I try and Do a S rank, Ai decides it's in one tap mood now.

[ornate plume]

for you i need to pay 7 bucks

[autumn dome]

did the game support HDR yet?

[hollow compass]

?

[primal gate]

I mind losing an S rank on the post office because as I fired a 12g slug the guy grabbed a hostage and pulled her into it.. disaster.

[river tide]

where was it

[ornate plume]

for me dlc cost 7 dollars

[dreamy garden]

Also they finally added lighting to the loadout screen/rotating

[supple vine]

hey Double Kill....

[river tide]

where are the backlavas?

[shadow mirage]

multiplayer only

[ornate plume]

i would cry my self to sleep i already lost 8 S ranks cuz i had account with ron but got vac banned

[junior belfry]

intended crash when killing basement man lol

[supple vine]

???

[primal gate]

AI definitely seems smarter but they still have some bugs, like being completely incapable of breaching the left side doors on the gas station.

[wraith belfry]

fellas is the DLC worth it or nah

[stone bay]

Yes (since very interesting maps) - but only 3 of those

[undone pewter]

no

[rose wadi]

Yep, first thing I noticed lol

[supple vine]

Why Would they do that?

[river tide]

yeah i know, where are they though

[wraith belfry]

all i needed to know thank you goodman

[primal gate]

They seem more proactive at securing civvies and bad guys too.

[dreamy garden]

The game is also now on ue5 right

[primal gate]

Yep

[pearl shuttle]

This might actually be a map design issue tbh

[dreamy garden]

Which explains why my fps went from 270 on high settings down to 45 on high

[placid leaf]

Is Milo's initial save data corrupted after update? A couple of my homies have said it's happened to them.

[hollow compass]

eh still not bad tbh, havent bought anything for the game since i purchased it during the beta phase

[primal gate]

The issue on the gas station? Yea, it's been a thing since I've had the game, but not a game breaking thing I guess.

[river tide]

where are the backlavas?

[silk junco]

character selection

[river tide]

where there im not seeing it

[pearl shuttle]

They should just revamp that entrance tbh. Get rid of the rails or whatever

[silk junco]

top of the locker

[dreamy portal]

I feel like it's more of a framework problem, imo. Like, with how 1.0 was built, it must be harder for them to go in and add more cosmetics and levels, let alone make it sandbox-y. Same with how modders cannot add new guns, but only reskin. Hopefully the new SDK fixes this

[weak wagon]

is the resolution scaling not working for anyone else?

[river tide]

what does that mean? the physical locker?

[silk junco]

open the loadout menu

[true panther]

My first impressions of the weapon changes and DLC weapons are pretty good, some of the rifles that felt outclassed before feel pretty usable now and the camera changes feel nice.

[river tide]

yes are they in uniform?

[soft mortar]

my pc exploded

[rose wadi]

rip

[silk junco]

omg dude. the character selection

[soft mortar]

it was not ready

[river tide]

ohh, thanks, to be fair thats so random to have them there

[primal gate]

Oof AI definitely seem quicker and smarter to shoot back.. but not in terms of accuracy! Just had a run ruined because red 1 double tapped a civvie 🤦‍♂️

[primal gate]

They removed him from the briefing room! 0/10, add back the boss!

[rose wadi]

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2114/2083501630_d6ecff43e4.jpg

[glass charm]

Damn why they gotta kill the mods?

[soft mortar]

look in media

[primal gate]

Engine changed, things break.

[river tide]

thats what i thought

[shy tulip]

Not just engine change, updating the game in general breaks most mods. This one just meant that map mods would break due to the engine change as well

[primal gate]

True, but a big update all the same.

[glass charm]

Smh I'll come back in a week or so and check in if the mods are updated yet. Can they stop a mod that makes the dlc available if its on nexus?

[shy tulip]

Yes

[prime wing]

yeah

[stone bay]

Yes, that violates tos

[shy tulip]

They will absolutely smack you down for that.

[blissful harness]

The present in the customization isn't perfect. You gotta manually select your character and voice after choosing your present despite they have been saved.

[untold cloak]

S rank neon tomb is actually impossible, one suspect left and he somehow guns down my entire team

[prime wing]

if you cant buy the dlc, just join someone that has the maps

[blissful harness]

Think they'll fix it after a couple of days.

[novel walrus]

Skill issue use cover.

[shy tulip]

My hint... ||look closer to spawn.||

[untold cloak]

very little cover in the pool area

[serene tulip]

how do I check if I have the DLC installed? I have it but I cant seem to access the missions

[novel walrus]

Use the pool

[untold cloak]

im boutta just drown myself in the pool

[chilly forge]

anyone else hear the leitmotif between narcos and greased palms?

[silk junco]

use multiplayer or practice mode

[glass charm]

I can I was just wondering because the customization unlock is so popular but I guess that doesn't fuck w/ money

[twilit oyster]

Still having a little trouble with the DLC

[primal gate]

Well it's theft.. so yea.

[twilit oyster]

It won't let me click on the Home Invasion missions, like do I need to go to the supporter edition DLC beta?

[prime wing]

yeah it only unlocks anything but dlc stuff

[silk junco]

are you the real swatofficerjd

[twilit oyster]

Idk? what other swatofficerjds are there?

[prime wing]

check pins

only on practice mode

[novel walrus]

You can't play singleplayer only in practice

[silk junco]

umm i know several

[twilit oyster]

OH

[shy tulip]

There's two by there, the third you should be able to find with ease

[twilit oyster]

wait why not? Is it going to be added to singleplayer or?

[serene tulip]

is it not in commander mode?

[novel walrus]

Probs not

[prime wing]

practice mode is still singleplayer

[heady flume]

how is the new dlc any good?

[blazing geode]

its good

[silk junco]

it’s not

[twilit oyster]

Btw love the sloppenheinmer user, somebody else watched the Badger video, lol.

[gritty hill]

When will the balaclavas go to commander mode

[blazing geode]

the game runs bad now

[prime wing]

uh

[blazing geode]

is anyone else having a hard time running the game since the update?

[dapper hinge]

Now that I’ve had a bit to play it I gotta say the new update is pretty good. Performance (for me) is significantly improved, AI feels much better, have only played the Narcos map but really enjoyed it

[novel walrus]

Just remember to save one for the last guy

[chilly forge]

they did the officer in narcos mad dirty 😭

[primal gate]

Neon Tomb is tough.. and the guys with the, well, vests will ruin your S rank very quickly .

[untold cloak]

if im suspicious of any corner, out goes a gas grenade

[twilit oyster]

Sorta, I just reinstalled it though

[blazing geode]

that worked for you?

[dapper hinge]

Yeah, shit was stomach churning. Felt like something out of Kane and Lynch 2

[twilit oyster]

Never had a problem with them, never died to them.

[untold cloak]

with non-lethals?

[sonic tusk]

yo i bought the new dlc but I cant go to home invasion and a lot of missions say unresolved even though i finished everything with at least B and 100% my save

[primal gate]

I'm meaning it's easy to pop one in the head and ruin your rank, or they kill you because you 10 thumb your taser.

[chilly forge]

holy shit, yeah, after you get captured and tortured

[serene tulip]

that is...a choice. thank you alot!

[silk junco]

np ^^

[shy tulip]

It means you missed objectives on those maps, you can still pass them without soft objectives, but you do not get resolved

[sonic tusk]

oh ok but do i gotta redo them in order to play the dlc

[blazing geode]

im have hardly any lag but whenever i look at my ai teammates its really choppy and everything just looks too detailed

[shy tulip]

The DLC is not available in commander

[sonic tusk]

oh

[sonic tusk]

thanks

[primal gate]

Enemy AI seems a bit better too, they seem a bit more competent and aren't scared to leave their spawn.

[ionic gale]

Helo

[shrewd jetty]

I've had significant performance boosts, the game is much more playable for me. Try nvidia dlss or amd fsr

[novel walrus]

Nothings gonna boost a potatoe

[shrewd jetty]

For sure, maps which where simple and easy before have become more difficult

[junior belfry]

i crash when i kill enemys

wha

[novel walrus]

You should get that checked out

[fallen ivy]

The game loads textures faster now but loading screens last for eternity 😔

[novel walrus]

its near instant for me on ssd

[fallen ivy]

My frames are jacked though

[dusty basalt]

Geeze thanks VOID. My entire keybind setup and game settings is gone. Great update!

[fallen ivy]

I’ll keep it that way I guess

[red pollen]

can anyone explain why dlc cannot be used in commander mode?

[short hearth]

Apparently you can ask civilians to come to you? How I do that?

[junior belfry]

the spc9 causes me to crash when i kill someone

[hearty parrot]

anyone know where the soft objs in dormitory are? dont tell me exactly just give me a hint

[river tide]

middle mouse click on them

[novel walrus]

Thats been added since 1.0 release middle mouse

[short hearth]

I see.

[river tide]

theyre in that one place on the map

[analog flare]

Wheres the damn balaclava

[river tide]

bottom of character changing screen for whatever reason

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing it would conflict with commander mode’s lockable system where you can unlock gear and other parts of the police station as the game progresses

[novel walrus]

Because they took your money and are laughing straight to the bank with this

[red pollen]

thanks for the heads up. so its only multiplayer mode atm?

[ionic gale]

That’s just a Game Theory though so don’t quote me on that

[red pollen]

that too i guess

[ionic gale]

Since you would’ve unlocked everything that the game had from Port Hokan ig and there’s nothing for you to unlock at that point? But I could be wrong

[hearty parrot]

holy shit how did i not think of that

[ionic gale]

You can play it in practice mode, of course, but of course some people just don’t want to play practice mode and that’s OK

[novel walrus]

Or they just lazy and don't really give af

[ionic gale]

That’s honestly a more viable reason

That conflicting unlockable shit that I just said it was just a naïve possibility

[short hearth]

Yeah the devs actually actively hate you and the DLC is actually funding Kim Jong Un's haircuts.

[ionic gale]

It could definitely be time constraints or just the devs not really bothering to add the maps into commander mode

[fallen ivy]

I wonder why we aren’t allowed to change characters in Practice

[ionic gale]

Then again this entire DLC was supposed to be in spring and it got pushed back for a reason so it’s just really confusing

[ionic gale]

In single player mode economically play as David Judge Beaumont

[fallen ivy]

Yeah I know, but in practice it doesn’t matter in my opinion

[ionic gale]

my favorite character since he is like probably the only swat character that has a potential backstory and impact to the plot

[novel walrus]

Most likely is devs don't even play commander mode themselves and forgot about it

[fallen ivy]

I get that

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it makes sense in commander mode but in practice, it is kind of dumb

[copper cypress]

Will the play of players who install the No Crack mode be affected after the version update?

[novel walrus]

Like I've never played it either and have been playing since Early Access

[fallen ivy]

We should be able to wear balaclava in practice

[ionic gale]

Yee

[analog flare]

I cant find it jesus christ

[ionic gale]

It is for some weird reason a character instead of a cosmetic gear, called a neon or something

[analog flare]

wait so your telling me I cant use the balaclava in campaign singleplayer?

[junior belfry]

bruh the scp9 or what ever crashes me when i full auto someone to death

[ionic gale]

“Echo” sorry

[analog flare]

What the hell?

[ionic gale]

no, i used mods where it was a cosmetic item but of course that’s mods

[novel walrus]

Yes that's what I'm telling you thanks for your purchase.

Thank you for supporting the devs guys

[grizzled palm]

anyone else feel like doing dorms in 5 minutes is such a pain in the ass

[analog flare]

Why would they do that? Thats some lazy ass bullshit, when mods have added balaclavas without adding a new character

[pearl shuttle]

Guys what is your favorite AR15 variant

[ionic gale]

MK 18 or HK416

[pearl shuttle]

Basado

[short hearth]

SR16.

[novel walrus]

Because VOID Devs are real life police officers during the day so they don't really have time to develop the game.

[pearl shuttle]

It's either the ARWC or SR16 for me

[ionic gale]

The MK 18 is a classic, while the HK looks badass and a little fellow that would be used by tier one operators

[hearty parrot]

the devs are gonna want the balaclavas to be properly rigged to the facial models

[blazing geode]

i have a gtx 1070 and i ran the game perfect before this update. now i get random frame drops

[analog flare]

Whys that? There no cutscenes

[ionic gale]

I like every weapon tbh

[fervent wren]

anyone what do you think about home infasi dlc?

[hearty parrot]

everyones mouth moves when they talk

[pearl shuttle]

Narcos mission is so good

[analog flare]

For multiplayer... Campaign SP?

[fallen ivy]

VOID! LET ME SWITCH TO ECHO IN PRACTICE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[ionic gale]

I have grown to love the knights armament aftermarket G36C

[short hearth]

Ayo, since when could you walk into a puddle of someone's blood and leave bloody footprints? Cool.

[pearl shuttle]

Think it's a new thing

[ionic gale]

insert funy Kratos pic here

[grizzled palm]

your character model is echo if you did it in multiplayer just doesn't show in the menu

[analog flare]

thats been there since olden days if i remember

[fallen wraith]

DLC was NOT ready

[pearl shuttle]

All future DLC should be free

[analog flare]

When was the game ever ready?

[fallen ivy]

I know you can do it in multiplayer. Would be cool if I could do it in practice…

[pearl shuttle]

If they don't make the DLC free I'm reporting them to the Better Business Bureau

[fallen wraith]

True, no wonder the player count is dyin g

[analog flare]

are you sure about that

[fervent wren]

bro is the dlc goot? is it worth???????????

[ionic gale]

Is it considered DLC at that point or just updates?

[grizzled palm]

yes in practice your character model is the echo model you chose in multiplayer. it carries over for whatever reason it just only appears in game

[ionic gale]

I would like to have free content just like the next person, but just saying lol

[fallen ivy]

Huh

[short hearth]

Update is pretty cool, though I did take a bit of a hit in performance.

[jade apex]

Is the squad incapable of ||disabling hydrogen bombs||?

[primal gate]

For the PCC you absolutely want to use hollow points, useless with AP.

[fallen wraith]

i mean, i was so sick of everyuone on it that its weorth it but like, its rushed and clunky, devs need to get their act together

[pearl shuttle]

It's worth it if you ask me

[novel walrus]

I use AP rounds and everything dies.

[shy tulip]

No, they 100% can, because if you look in HQ you see this.

[fervent wren]

i want to buy but

[grizzled palm]

if you want to try and complete maps that feel like literal hell yeah. it just needs more time since the ai just shoot from everywhere on every map

[pearl shuttle]

Akshually that was the SWAT 3 team 🤓

[shy tulip]

They would follow up training just incase it happens again

[primal gate]

4 shots on an unarmoured bad guy with a semi-auto is useless to me, too many risks.

[ionic gale]

Like I’ve been saying, I haven’t played the update yet and I won’t get access to the game until I got access to my computer again so I’m just gonna be cautious with this one

[novel walrus]

I just shoot once to the head.

[fervent wren]

so its bad then?

[primal gate]

Yea anything to the head is one and done but I try not to end them permanently.

[grizzled palm]

I mean it has its bugs and a very artificial difficulty but its not bad in the sense that its crap

[short hearth]

It's subjective, best thing to do is check people playing it to see if the maps are cool to you. Not to mention you can try the maps for free if host has it, so just try it and see for yourself.

[fervent wren]

i believe they said they gonna add female officer am i wrong?

[hearty parrot]

S ranked narco - fun map

[fallen ivy]

Wait…does TOC not yell at you any more when you execute the prisoner in the downstairs area

[fervent wren]

soooooooooo.... Should i buy or not???????????????????

[silk sail]

[hearty parrot]

WOULD have dormitory S ranked but these soft objectives are more hidden then the answer to life

[grizzled palm]

probably my favorite one although the constant enemy flanks hurt like hell

[ionic gale]

I bought the DLC a few hours ago hope my 10 Goober Dollars, legal tender to any participating Goofy Goober restaurants, was well spent

[dusty basalt]

Where the hell is everyone talking about balaclavas?

[grizzled palm]

echo character model in multiplayer

[fervent wren]

aight duck it, imma buy

[fallen ivy]

Because some have been asking for them since before 1.0

[grizzled palm]

not like you really lose much it's 10 bucks for probably like another 10-20 hours of gameplay if you're going to try and 100%

[ionic gale]

It’s a cosmetic item that has been wanted in the game for like I think a little over a year now

There is mods and it is shown in lots of trailers, but we haven’t had a true Balaclava cosmetic in the game until now which people are unhappy on how it was implemented

[jade apex]

||It's kind of wild to me how slow the officers are on the Elephant map||

[ionic gale]

and yeah it’s stoopid

[fallen ivy]

Could’ve been done better but it’s cool that we got it

[fervent wren]

true

[grizzled palm]

nah gotta wait for swat it's just like real life

[primal gate]

We absolutely need a .50 desert eagle mod, obviously the most suitable service weapon,.

[pliant void]

there is lots of new improvements i like so thank you VOID. But seriously the guns still clip into officers cosmetics and also chin straps still clip into the head! You brought so much new stuff, but didnt fix so much character clipping still 😦

[fallen ivy]

Clearly

[jaunty moth]

is there a way to change the ai head/face model in commander mode? most of them clip through the helmet strap

[ionic gale]

I kinda like the sights on the MK17

[grizzled palm]

any enemy on narcos will still take like 30 bullets to die lol

[jade apex]

||idk man it's an active college shooting and the character speed is like hiking. I think even a small increase to movement would have been nice||

[fallen ivy]

There was almost no head cosmetics that didn’t clip into mandibles

[primal gate]

Haven't tried it yet but I'll like to se how they handle a 12 gauge to the arm! Losing a limb has stopped them quick, so far.

[ionic gale]

Technically there is no irons and it’s only an accessory rail, but I kinda like the concept just like the breaching shotgun

I seen how many put red dots onto that gun IRL and I’m pretty sure it’s recommended to do so

[grizzled palm]

I thought you meant the fact that nobody but swat was responding to the shooting lol. but really trying to move in like 40 pounds of gear at a speed walk while trying to move over the corpses isn't as easy as it would seem

[grizzled palm]

the guys I face eat a 12 gauge get back up then finally surrender lol

[stone bay]

Do it. The maps are actually new and especially different.

Hey how the hell do I find the balaclava? I don’t see any options for that

[grizzled palm]

multiplayer echo character model

[fallen ivy]

Switch to Echo character

[analog flare]

its a different character model only found in MP

[primal gate]

Wth! Is this secretly some kinda Skynet DLC 😂

[stone bay]

Man

[hushed smelt]

My local swat team trains in multi story high schools and still move faster than that lmaooo

[analog flare]

amazing right

[fallen ivy]

My reaction too

[jade apex]

Yeah I get it, but darn... I wish the mission didn't feel so slow wiht commander mode

[ionic gale]

“Drop that weapon, buddy”

[novel walrus]

This is also a video game not real life.

[grizzled palm]

I have no clue it feels like every suspect is on coke because they even ignore half a mag of pepperballs and 2 cs grenades

[fallen ivy]

“No fucking way!”

[primal gate]

I'm not your buddy, guy!

[jaunty moth]

when I played during 1.0 drop, stuff didn't seem to clip that bad but now the chin straps clip onto most ai heads and the g3 shirt clips now too. is it just me or was it always clipping?

[hearty parrot]

S-ranked Dorms - there is one soft objective and god damn its hidden well

[hushed smelt]

Kinda stupid that you cant move fast in an active shooter who are shooting people

[grizzled palm]

G3 always clipped because of how baggy it was. a lot of the helmets were also poorly made to the character models and accesories like masks

[ionic gale]

If I’m not going for S rank on active shooter situations, I just kill all the suspects because these school shooters have shown that they will harm people

[grizzled palm]

to be fair once you're in the game they don't shoot anyone but you so not like you're saving a corpse

[novel walrus]

Ground Branch has sprinting and its goofy as fuck because everyone running around like cod

[ionic gale]

Somewhere in my fancy rules of engagement, handbook the size of a high school textbook I’m pretty sure it says that on chapter 25

[hushed smelt]

They shoot at civs when I play for some reason

[primal gate]

Hmm what about the flavour text? If they visited the house on Twisted Nerve, that may explain their superhuman constitution.

[grizzled palm]

literally never had them shoot a single civilian

[pliant void]

i always found the guns clipped into armour and shoulders and it still does even the new guns lol

[hushed smelt]

Exactly how you should type shi

[grizzled palm]

also turns out the 509 is not a bad gun just don't use it for the DLC because it won't put anyone down without a headshot

[ionic gale]

The 509 is just a standard little pistol

not all that top different from the other 9 mms,

What is the magazine size though?

[grizzled palm]

absolutely zero clue because I spent 5 seconds using it on narcos before deciding letting the ai mag dump them was more efficient

[rose wadi]

Ive had the school shooters kill civilians

Even quoting the columbine shooters "You know what happens next." -pop-

[grizzled palm]

either I've just always been way to fast in that mission then or everytime I've played it it's been bugged

[pliant void]

wait what 80fps to now 25fps....what did you guys do?

600 hours to unplayable in one update how?

[grizzled palm]

allowed for uncapped frame rate which if you leave uncapped will kill your game

[rose wadi]

Change borderless windowed mode to fullscreen, and if that doesnt help, lower resolution to 1440p until its fixed

[ionic gale]

One time when I was playing that map one of my AI teammates, got killed by one of them

[supple vine]

Same Here, S rank on Elephant is IMPOSSIBLE now.

[ionic gale]

Me and King were best buddies and after seeing that, I just mag dumped that dude for taking my boy’s life 😔

[grizzled palm]

lol

I'll probably go back to re-obtaining my 100% once some patches are in because holy hell ai getting stuck in crawl spaces is so annoying rn

[celest umbra]

controls in this game are kinda shit sometimes lol. I accidentally turned on the replay UI. how do I turn it off?

[analog flare]

And here i thought we got improvements lol

[primal gate]

AI have improved for sure, like one moved reasonably well when I was pushing through him in a doorway.

[pliant void]

thanks guys its really appreciated i knew they lied when they said it was going to be less intensive i said but everyone jumped on me for saying the opposite

[rose wadi]

Yeah... I think I was one of them lmfaoooo

My bad, Sorry about that

[grizzled palm]

they still seem to derp out and much rather hang around doors for 30 minutes than do their job though

[ionic gale]

I heard that somebody was playing neon tomb, and their officers did nothing to help them

[short hearth]

Do the officers hold all the foregrips properly now? I remember in the past they'd clip through the hands.

[cedar shadow]

It just came to mind but are we ever getting back the ability to choose different game modes per map, and on that note the 2 previous versions of hotel?

[grizzled palm]

it happens so often that the AI just refuse commands

[ionic gale]

that dude got shot,

[primal gate]

Sometimes yea, still have some bugs, like telling them to cuff someone and they sit admiring a brick wall.

[grizzled palm]

nope at least not from what we know now

[supple vine]

Yeah, Just Tried Sins of the father, AI just stops on the Staircase And Didn't deploy gas.

[ionic gale]

I feel like that his element should actually investigated for possibly aiding a terrorist organization because that was baffling

[short hearth]

I'm actually having it be the opposite. Borderless window improved my FPS over fullscreen for some reason.

[jade apex]

I forgot to reload and got shot in the face lol

[grizzled palm]

to be fair it's nice brick

[grizzled palm]

to be fair idk why they'd call swat in for a terrorist organization twicee

[sly orchid]

Is it just me or are you not able to edit your long tactical anymore?

[jade apex]

To be fair brick isn't as common anymore

[grizzled palm]

have you tried clicking really really hard then clearing your mod data

[ionic gale]

I dress up my dudes as FISA HRT

[short hearth]

Ay, first game crash of new update. About time.

[primal gate]

One thing I've found is switching between blue and red and issuing them commands as separate squads will let you command them to cuff 2 targets, after you use Gold and command them to follow you. I've found that commanding gold to cuff suspects is bad, like one cop will cuff one guy then the other 3 will stand like spare lamps.

[grizzled palm]

I crashed first 30 seconds lol

[ionic gale]

So technically, we’re tier one le ops

[pliant void]

50 fps so doubled it, but i think i may need to go back to DX11 and test it now as all other settings are not changing anything really

i used to play in epic, stream it, record it, still 80fps, now jsut fucked

[short hearth]

I lasted a good while, enough for a few missions.

[sly orchid]

My games vanilla

[grizzled palm]

idk why I'm unaffected I just capped my FPS at 60 and it never dips

[rose wadi]

Yeah I was having the same problem. Just try sitting in the police department for like 5 minutes and see if the FPS slowly creeps up

[hearty parrot]

S-ranked every dlc map

[jade apex]

Nice

[grizzled palm]

yeah but have you completed dorms in 5 minutes

[sly orchid]

Is 100 fps in the station good?

[rose wadi]

I use a 2080Super

[hearty parrot]

good dlc would buy do reccomend

[short hearth]

Well done my man, blowing you kisses from London. (Sorry wrong reply.)

[hearty parrot]

i wouldve if that soft objective wasnt so allusive

[primal gate]

Mine is fine but I'm on a 7800XT, 3700X, and the game is on a gen 4 SSD.

[sly orchid]

I still have no clue why I can't edit my long tactical

[grizzled palm]

honestly 5 minutes feels way too short for that mission

[jade apex]

Do member effects stack?

[sly orchid]

I actually need help with this

[short hearth]

Okay so do I gotta unlock the new DLC cosmetics or do I just have them from buying it? Where do I edit my character face / voice and grab a balaclava to cover it all up afterwards?

[sly orchid]

How do I edit my long tactical?

[ionic gale]

If it’s another one of those bugs that comes with the update more than like, I don’t know what they really do ;-;

have you tried the basic stuff like restarting your game and all that good gravy?

[sly orchid]

Mhm

[short hearth]

I can edit my long tactical fine, so sounds like a bug or game issue specific to you.
I'm in Practice mode, which mode are you trying it in?

[sly orchid]

multiplayer friends only

[short hearth]

Try changing it in practice and see if it's the same problem still, might be bugged specific to that mode.

[gritty hill]

How to use the helmet cam

[short hearth]

Feels like MCX recoil is better, and I assume most of these 556 AR recoils are better too.

[jade apex]

The ||Elephant map|| is driving me insane. Any tips?

[sly orchid]

They feel a little better

[analog flare]

They made the HQ look a lot more shittier in Home Invasion lol

[pliant void]

anyone tried ingamemenu yet as it was only a mod to add players into the game really so you could have stacked lobbies?

[jade apex]

I want a lobby with 20 Swat officers

[sly orchid]

ive seen 11 year olds handle rifle recoil better than pre-update ready or not

[pliant void]

i alwys thought recoil was pretty non existant in most games, but i dont full auto as only hollywood full auto

[sly orchid]

Restarted my compter and fixed the bug

That's really weird what happened lol

[pliant void]

ready or shanty town?

[sly orchid]

I think it oversized the gui so i could only see some of it, now its a lot smaller and i can see the full set

[short hearth]

Wait until you see a real man's bug, it'll put hair on your chest.

[stone bay]

I just reinstalled the game, cannot click the Home Invasion tab despite owning the DLC, is there a certain point I have to play to in order to unlock that?

[pliant void]

i wonder if we will still get arrested dead t posing suspects i trying to break everything and see if anything actually fixed

[stone bay]

Was in singleplayer for this

[sly orchid]

What yall think about the ballistic shield?

[fringe vault]

ensure your in multiplayer or practice mode, not commander mode

[short hearth]

I think it's a pretty big piece of metal.

[sly orchid]

The flux raider is so nice cause it has so little recoil

[stone bay]

Can I play it in commander mode or nah?

[quick jacinth]

So have the AI gone back to their wall bang fetish ways again?

they seem to keep accurately spraying me through walls

[fringe vault]

not at this time no

[sly orchid]

Im a breaching shotgun type of person

[stone bay]

That sucks. Thanks though bro

[sly orchid]

May be a little better than right after 1.0 released? Because me and my team all got triple tapped by the same guy through a peice of drywall as we moved silently

[north steeple]

Imma wait to buy it until that I literally never play with anyone else lmfao

[analog flare]

Jesus christ the NPCs talk now

[sly orchid]

In 1.0 btw

[jade apex]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-sin-forgiveness-my-students-are-all-morons-danhentschel-dan-hentschel-therapist-dan-hentschel-gif-17216516396095305089

I HAT ELEPHANT

[sly orchid]

They totally made shotgun recoil worse though 💀

[ionic gale]

Whu

[quick jacinth]

One of the problems related to wall bang is every suspect having AP loaded in their weapons which drastically increases their wall bang ability

213 feels awful with every suspect with uzis and aks spraying you through a wall and all your limbs

[ionic gale]

I use shawt guns tho

[quick jacinth]

Yeah shotguns are awful if you spam them

[ionic gale]

I luv dem

[sly orchid]

Maybe im tweakin but they feel a lot worse

[ionic gale]

They kill shit good

I don’t like how the recoil could be worse

[sly orchid]

The one guy who runs you through that little training session sounds like he's a 13 year old boy in the little bit he talks when you walk into the gun range in the station

[pliant void]

OK SO ITS DX12 goddamn, stay in DX11 on older gfx cards and its fine

[shy tulip]

If your card doesn't support EU5 PSO, may as well use DX11

[short hearth]

Aaaaand second crash mid-mission this time.

[shy tulip]

idk what cards specifically don't support it though

[ionic gale]

I think my GPU is uh a 30…

[pliant void]

really you want to join me?

[sharp perch]

anyone else having issues with dlc content?

[ionic gale]

70?, 80? Idk I gotta check

[pliant void]

still game testing the vanilla first

[sharp perch]

i see

[shy tulip]

What issue

[sly orchid]

Gym or ready or not 🤔

[mental fable]

I tried playing the game and somehow it frozen when it hit 100%

[pliant void]

also pistol hits well, new sunmachine gun does nothing, whole clips to kill people on lmultiple palyers with me sofar so that sucks a gun no one can use really

[cursive ore]

the install time for me is over 1 year, downloaded just fine but the write time is.. not working

[stone bay]

I've been playing with an advanced armory loadout for so long the vanilla weapons feel janky

[pliant void]

verify files fixes it we had two people with that after patching, i worked better as i did a full uninstall reinstall as the patch was only 10 gig of the entire game size lol

[sly orchid]

The flux raider is bad?

[shy tulip]

DX12 is more intensive loading screen wise because it is preloading the map

[sly orchid]

I've shot people 2-3 times and they're dead

[cursive hazel]

Ok, perhaps I'm just an idiot, but how do you actually play the DLC? I bought it and downloaded it but the missions and new items aren't showing up?

[sly orchid]

also not to mention it has an insanely low recoil

[sly orchid]

go to the mission selector, and look at the top, then select home invasion

[cursive hazel]

oh, thank you!

[pliant void]

i testing hits on enemies with the new guns, if they worse then no point using them, so far pistol is pretty good hitter when running shield but still not better then the vaniall 45 ACP obvs

[ionic gale]

I found the pdw interesting. If it’s that bad more than like, I’m pretty pretty sure that I would just use it for shite and giggles

[jade apex]

My officers deciding to stand and twirl their fingers while an || active shooter is in the building...||

[mental fable]

Bruh we need to buy the DLC to unlock the new outfits

[sly orchid]

I've shot flux raiders irl and they're super fun to shoot

[shy tulip]

Yes, the new cosmetic set, besides the balaclava being free

[pliant void]

they are both classed as PDW, just find the sub version is worse then the SPC which was the lightest hitter before so i am like meh. now trying the assault variant

[cursive ore]

yes, that's how DLC works

[ionic gale]

It’s literally just a pistol with a fancy ass housing

[sharp perch]

are the dlc cosmetics in game already?

i dont see them in my inventory as i have pruchased the dlc

[mental fable]

Yea for multiplayer only

[pliant void]

yes i am wearing the helmet and shirt already

the trousers have 7 variants thats hnow you see it they are at the top now i think

[short hearth]

Good reload time on the raider.

[pliant void]

i need it to finish off the BMC without looking like a 12 year old upper body

[ionic gale]

There was supposed to be a standalone pistol version, which would’ve been a Sig Sauer P320 which is the pistol used in this gun usually

[quick jacinth]

Also quick question. Do you use slugs or buckshot?

[ionic gale]

Slugs more recently, Idc if people called them a worse version of an assault rifle I will still use them

[celest umbra]

is the steel plate stuff worth using or nah?

[ionic gale]

They scrapped the idea

[ionic gale]

I mean for light armor I think it has all right mobility, but heavy armor makes you walk like a turtle

[celest umbra]

yeah but does heavy armor protect enough to make it worth it, or no?

[ionic gale]

Yeah it does

[quick jacinth]

Not at all

Flat 70% damage reduction at the cost of a 92% acceleration debuff

run ceramic heavy armor

[sharp perch]

balaclava in game?

[pliant void]

not if you dont want to injuire your teammates

[ionic gale]

Especially with heavy genre, it would almost make you a fleshy armored SUV

[celest umbra]

I seem to still die very fast

[short hearth]

Both ceramic and steel plate have their pros and cons, you go with which one is the right one for the specific job.

[pliant void]

yes its a character head not a cosmetic thats why people are missing it

[ionic gale]

I use ceramic exclusively

[sharp perch]

ah

[cursive ore]

my diskwrite keeps getting suck at 987MB, it's weird

[pliant void]

steel has spalling so you can ricocet your teamates i never run it

[celest umbra]

I assume full ceramic?

[pliant void]

if you run a shield you can kill suspects with their own ricochets lol

[quick jacinth]

Nope

Ceramic is literally better than steel in nearly every way

yeah ceramic can break but you still get a 40% reduction when it's broken which is only 10% less than kevlar (kevlar is awful do not use it)

[stone bay]

Based

[celest umbra]

I'll use heavy ceramic then I guess

[sly orchid]

Yeah i felt like they kind of false advertised with “essentially four” but you cant even take down the flux raider into a normal p320

[short hearth]

We're not comparing it to kevlar, we're comparing it to steel.

[autumn dome]

why every door is now locked?

[sly orchid]

the p320 alone is a pretty shitty gun though

[ionic gale]

Unless it was a last-minute thing that they decided to scrap, and did not have time to discreetly remove the four weapon promise yeah I guess you could say that it was false advertising

Although I’m just gonna chalk it up to just forgetting or something like that

[shy tulip]

It wasn't a last minute thing, they confirmed I think a week or two ago, it just wasn't updated

[short hearth]

I almost never run it myself, but I think spalling is such a niche issue in-game it's not worth stressing much about. The slugishness is why I stay away from it personally.

[ionic gale]

Obviously, there’s gonna be lots of stuff that’s going to get under used, but Kevlar is just sad

I mean, I think it’s really only useful for the stab vest, but who the hell is gonna run a stab vest except for shits and giggles?

I like the sandbox in this game, but there’s obviously gonna be more better options than others

[quick jacinth]

flat damage debuff of 70% at the cost of damaging your own team and a 92% acceleration debuff (Spall can not hurt you)

compared to ceramic which is a 100% damage reduction until it breaks in which it goes to 40% with only a 5% debuff per plate (steel is 23% per plate)

[ionic gale]

I forgot the ceramic can break

[bold sky]

why are we reinventing the wheel when theres literally a sheet in here that documented all of that

[sly orchid]

Im just sad you cant have side plates with light armor anymore

[pliant void]

no modern forces use it anymore except Russian sir we are all Ceramic XSAPI plates in the West

[quick jacinth]

That was a bug

you never had side plates with light armor it just showed up for some reason

[ionic gale]

I use steel plates only in light armor

[quick jacinth]

eh reasonable i guess?

[ionic gale]

If I even use light armor at all, really

[sly orchid]

Irl its super hard for ceramic plates to break

[quick jacinth]

i don't run light since you lack side plates and getting arm pitted is annoying

[ionic gale]

my main armor build is heavy armor and ceramic

[timber pilot]

hey guys are the loadtimes longer than usual or is it just my PC?

[sharp fox]

civ punched me so i shot him once in the chest, didnt lose any points for it

[sly orchid]

And even when they “break” or crack they stop rounds

[stone bay]

I was like "why in the fuck is my laser not turning on" then remembered I needed to rebind it. smh

[ionic gale]

It’s almost like uh actual dinner plates?

[pliant void]

redoing all my keybinds was hell lol

[sly orchid]

anything but

[ionic gale]

I don’t know a funny analogy to compare them to

[pliant void]

more like the top of your toilet cistern mate they are over an inch thick!

[sly orchid]

People think that ceramics are made out of porcelain or some shit lol

[quick jacinth]

Less durable than other forms of armor but like we only have steel and i guess UHWMPE to compare it to?

[ionic gale]

Kevlar’s only real benefit is how fast you are with it

While still having some sort of protection, instead of just running with no armor

But it’s kind of minuscule to the point that nobody really bothers with it or notices

[sharp grove]

Soft targets for dorm??

[ionic gale]

I mean, it’s probably good for like the first two missions if that but I never played a mission where I ran it

Of my almost 200 hours in this game, i never touched Kevlar

[ancient cloud]

Lmao if I download the game again its the same size as the update

[pliant void]

actually sir, ceramic plates can take rounds from higher calibres then steel, but they will break where as steel will not. its why people moved to it, you can take a hit from high callibre shots, repalce the plate and go back out. we dont usually firefight for days and days, so ceramics are fit for purpose of short engagements and frequent replacement.

[quick jacinth]

crazy part is the full kevlar advantage is 0.48 compared to full ceramic 0.56 (seconds to achieve max speed)

[ionic gale]

Also, I’m sorry, but tell me any maps where a stab this is actually good

[quick jacinth]

Uh yeah i'm familiar with that

[ionic gale]

Again, a stab vest only seems viable for a mobile build where you don’t care about staying alive and wanting to hold as much gear as possible

[pliant void]

patrol officer roleplay pistol only and one shotgun guy or rifle

[proven nacelle]

Do mods from before the update not work now?

[ionic gale]

Yeah, aside from just role-play it serves no tactical advantage like the engraving on your Glock

[polar junco]

I got a question for eveyone, so for some reason I can’t access the DLC even thought I’m in safe mode and it’s reading that I have a lot of unfinished missions which is weird since I’ve played all of them. Anyone have any work around for what’s happening?

[quick jacinth]

Stab is a meme

no protection and doesn't even protect you from blades?!?!?

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing you can’t equip Kevlar

[quick jacinth]

No

stab is literally 0 protection

no armor is the same as a stab vest

[ionic gale]

There’s no ballistic protection with this thing it’s only for deflecting melee weapons

Can helmets break or something or fly off?

[shy tulip]

If you can only launch in safemode, you have broken mods, #❓modding-faq-archive

[ionic gale]

Sometimes in games, my paper doll health just randomly has its helmet disappear

I don’t know if that’s a bug or if that’s some weird feature where helmets can somehow break but I had that happen a few times

[ionic gale]

Extra slots, mobility and some sort of weapon protection is like the only thing that’s good about this and it’s still kind of booty cheeks

[quick jacinth]

Yeah helmets can break

you can't actually die to a headshot unless your helmet is gone

[gaunt nebula]

Just got an A on Dorms. Kinda of boring tbh. Just a bunch of empty rooms.

[ionic gale]

Ah I didn’t know that that was a feature

[quick jacinth]

you get shot in the face quite a bit actually

[ionic gale]

also uh

Have any of you use the lock pick gun?, cuz I never did

[quick jacinth]

the ballistic mask doesn't reduce damage to the face but instead just doubles your helmet durability from 1 to 2

[pliant void]

gas mask does i always run gas mask

[ionic gale]

that’s burnt

[quick jacinth]

not worth the slot you can lockpick quick enough anyways

[stone bay]

I do, not that worth it tbh.

[ionic gale]

I would much rather put that slot into a flash bang or an extra maga

[stone bay]

But it's quite nice to open doors quickly

[pliant void]

or kick it, or ram it lol useless feature that

[ionic gale]

Hitting the door with a cylindrical hunk of metal is more fun than lock picking

What’s the magazine size of the FN 509?

[quick jacinth]

my right leg is damaged so i can't kick and the ram is useless unless you give it to the AI or are playing multiplayer so i just like open the door or pick it

[ionic gale]

I hope it’s a more bigger magazine size than the rest of the 9 mm choices

[quick jacinth]

17
same as the block
Literally a glock reskin!!!

[pliant void]

really you didnt know you can stand to the side and ram it in cover not stand infront the door like a potato?

[stone bay]

Do people actually use the battering ram unironically? Like just kick the door smh

[ionic gale]

The Glock 19 has only 15 rounds

[short hearth]

Yeah I use it unironically.

[ionic gale]

So yeah, it’s the highest capacity, 9x19mm by 2 boolets

[pliant void]

assault PDW slaps i like it

[quick jacinth]

I'm not that stupid atleast!

i'd rather just pick the door so i can peak it than smash it open from the side and get blasted because i have a brick in my hand

[ionic gale]

I find it kewl

[pliant void]

2 good out of 3 guns, not bad cheers VOID i like

[ionic gale]

What is your opinion on the irons being the rails Tim?

[wet spire]

anyone else get corrupt data popup after the update?

[ionic gale]

I don’t think the irl flux raider has any true aiming irons so it’s recommended to have a red dot alongside it

[pliant void]

i dont die too good

[sharp fox]

why do all these crackheads try to punch me

[quick jacinth]

scared

bring pepper spray to those levels

[ionic gale]

Although apparently there’s some misaligning with the irons and I think it should be lower, just like the breaching shotgun

[short hearth]

Why do crackheads do anything.

[novel walrus]

Because they can't aim or else they'd shoot you

[short hearth]

Digging the Raider, going to be fun for missions with unarmoured suspects. Handles well, great reload speed, practically no risk of weapon compression.

[ionic gale]

I know I won’t shut up about these nonexistent irons on the flux, but it just interests me so much

[short hearth]

What's bothering you?

[ionic gale]

It doesn’t bother me it actually interests me

I seen the flux raider used with red dots a bunch and I don’t think there’s true iron sites that you could use aside from the rail

[mental fable]

How do I make my game smoother in RoN ?

[ionic gale]

It looks like a weapon that is designed to have red doots alongside it

[ionic gale]

Also, what’s the attachment options currently for that thing since I want to try that thingy out

[shy tulip]

Switch to 12 since it PSO caches, but your overall FPS may be lower it seems.

[short hearth]

The irons get removed when converting to Raider, front sight post can stay but rear sight gets removed so the rail can mount on properly. That what you mean?

[pliant void]

dont know never use irons just DOT even in real life my irons are always flipped down so never really paid attention to it in game

[hearty parrot]

100%'ed the dlc pretty fun would reccomend

[ionic gale]

Yee

[mental fable]

It was already in DX12 when I load the game, but when I switched to DX11 still laggy and low

[short hearth]

Garand Thumb and Mika have a video on the Raider where they touch on those things, you can give that a watch if you're inbred like me.

[shy tulip]

DX11 does not have PSO caching so it won't have the benefit of caching maps

[mental fable]

Oh ok

[ionic gale]

I’m a gun nerd so uh I like seeing this stuff

The G36C with the Knights armament aftermarket parts are growing on me

The wacky flip up irons and the hand guard rail replacement

I also seen that vid that Garand and friends did

[short hearth]

Can confirm the new pistol is indeed a pistol.

[signal dragon]

pistol is indeed pistol

[pliant void]

this pistol may become a regular, the FN509 i have in airsoft, its a great gun, looks similar to the M&P Little Bird

[ionic gale]

It’s a FN 509

The most pistol-y pistol a handgun can be

[pliant void]

exactly what i said sir

[signal dragon]

feels like the DM4 kicks more than any of the other options but the short barrel is pretty nice

[ionic gale]

I like how it’s technically the highest capacity 9x19mm handgun in the game

[signal dragon]

the carbine conversion is probably the most disgusting single object I've ever looked at

[ionic gale]

17 boolets is nice

[pliant void]

yes i thought that earlier, i not gettting downs without alot of shots on my game with the RAIDER but DM4 is pretty noice

[ionic gale]

I talked about this before, but it is supposed to a Sig Sauer P320 in a fancy PDW kit

[short hearth]

Trying out the DM4 next.

[signal dragon]

yeah that doesn't make it not ugly and horrifying

[ionic gale]

we actually was supposed to get the standalone pistol with his DLC but I’m guessing void ran out of time or they just scrapped it so we cannot muck around with P320

[pliant void]

they always said 3 guns only so i dont think so

[quick jacinth]

509 is basically the best 9x19 in game but the five seven exists so

[ionic gale]

Hol up

[pliant void]

pistol and two PDW

[signal dragon]

one mag of 5.7 and you can buy your friend RON

[ionic gale]

If you check the DLC page, it said “Technically 4”

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[short hearth]

Oh yeah I need to try out the new input buffering so I can avoid dropping my combos less often.

[pliant void]

not on their announcement post though - The 509 Pistol, FLUX MP17 PCC, and the DM4 PDW.

[ionic gale]

The 509 will definitely be my main 9x19mm handgun now

[signal dragon]

I think the DM4 has hit the point where the barrel is too short now lmao

[pliant void]

this is copy and paste from DLC page - Several recent shipments of FN 509 pistols, MP17 PDWs, and DM4 PDWs are now being outfitted to tactical officers to accommodate the heightened security necessary for disaster response within the zone’s close quarters, unpredictable environments.
Cant find what you saw sorry.

[ionic gale]

ah

[slate bear]

are we liking the new update or not?

[short hearth]

Nah man, that's clearly an average size barrel.

[noble pasture]

Wait, dlc maps dont have commander mode or dont have swat AI at all?

[ionic gale]

I kind of like the PDW theme of these weapons

I mean, we are going to be in tight quarters with these new house map so I think it makes sense to have short gunz

[pliant void]

the game looks very sharp very nice, dlc maps are good, but performance will drop quite a bit unless you play around alot really.

[slate bear]

you can't play them in the campaign, but you can play in practice, so there is SWAT ai

[short hearth]

Not liking the semi auto kick on this DM4, though at extreme close quarters I guess it won't matter, and that's probably the only time I'd want to bring it.

[slate bear]

yeh, makes sense

[ionic gale]

How is the MP5/10? Has that been buffed to be a more beefy round?

I feel like that it feels almost empty or neutered in this game

[noble pasture]

Also I been promised a fix for Swat AI walking backwards, nowhere to be seen in changelog

[jovial frigate]

does anyone know if old gun mods still work?

[quick jacinth]

So good to know that headshots don't incap anymore

5.7 JHP killed a mindjot guard

[ionic gale]

I’m pretty sure all the mods are going to be busted in this new engine change from unreal engine 4 to 5

[half cosmos]

Have I just been ignorant and not realized there are extra police that come in after and pick up all the civilians and capture suspects, or is that new? Also I don't have access to the new guns or customization items?

[quick jacinth]

I noticed it last update on Port Hoken

pretty sure it happens after you bring order to chaos and rescue all civilians

[ionic gale]

The new customization Items that came with this update is DLC exclusive so you gotta cop up the money for extra gear

The weapons should be be free to everybody so that’s a bit weird

[noble pasture]

Who the fuck are "Cold Harbor"? New faction?

[ruby portal]

the what

[short hearth]

@shy tulip you frequent this place often so you'd probably know; any idea why they removed putting weapons on safe?

[noble pasture]

Ah, so fan content

[ruby portal]

isnt cold harbor like a gun or something

[shy tulip]

No idea

[ruby portal]

also the new gear makes me look like the natioanl guard which is awesome

[noble pasture]

These guys
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[ionic gale]

There is something that confused me too

[lost rover]

Is there no option to launch at dx11 now?

[half cosmos]

Purchased it right as it became available.

[short hearth]

I can only imagine so many newbies were accidentally putting guns on safe and then coming to the Discord for help that the devs got fed up. 🤷‍♂️

[ionic gale]

Like I want to switch off my gun to safe mode, you can low ready but idk

[half cosmos]

I still see that pop up every time.

[shy tulip]

There is

[ruby portal]

thats black powder red earth

[shy tulip]

I mean not that often but sometimes, idk, I assume it was more of a maintaining the guns issue

[noble pasture]

Can someone tell me what factions we fight on the 3 new maps?

[ionic gale]

Some looters and probably uh

I only know that there’s looters for now and probably just regular gangbangers

[noble pasture]

Said regular gangsters pulling a "Crackhead Johnwick"

I got that clip of old RoN in me head. A guy jumped out of a room and shotgunned everyone

[ionic gale]

I would’ve carpet bombed the entire place out of anger

Just send in the army, I’m done with these dudes

[hasty venture]

is it ever actually explained why a fat furry loser has an army of gangbangers defending him

[wind brook]

they moderate his chat

[hasty venture]

no because they're all skinny so that doesnt make sense

[gaunt nebula]

Anyone else had their team AI get stuck when clearing rooms on their own? I got downed in the new mansion map and was watching my team clear the rest out. Great to watch, until they suddenly got stuck on seemingly nothing, surrounded by suspects and civilians all yelling at them. Waited about 3 mins before quitting 🤭

[ionic gale]

I mean, I understand that he doesn’t want people getting into his bitcoin mining room but uh

[modest bear]

what new guns are added by the DLC?

[ionic gale]

Armed bodyguards are a little bit overkill, buddy

[hasty venture]

bodyguards is an overstatement

[noble pasture]

He pays them in crypto

[hasty venture]

more like armed hoodlums

will i get banned if i say black people dont care about crypto

[rose wadi]

They just happened to be there playing DnD

[long dew]

ffs i deleted my save data

[noble pasture]

That shit is like 60 grand a coin now

[ionic gale]

MP17: Pistol converted to a PDW in SMGs
DM4: lil AR 15 in .300 BLK
& 509 pistol: highest capacity 9mm pistol at 17 rounds

[short hearth]

No idea but it's a stupid take regardless.

[hasty venture]

not really

[rigid cobalt]

Are the magnified scopes viable yet

[noble pasture]

300 blk? It's gonna pen everything

[quick jacinth]

the Specter is someone useful on larger maps and the LPVO is just shit (short answer no)

[ionic gale]

I said this before, but I thought that the streaming mission was gonna be a tutorial almost

[ionic gale]

I don’t know the caliber of the weapon in game because I haven’t even played this new update yet ;~;

[modest bear]

also raider xp320, right?

[hasty venture]

like i dont think actual hood rat gangbangers care or know much about crypto

[ionic gale]

Yeah we were going to get a scrapped Sig P320 but it was scrapped