👮ron-discussion

[native rune]

Yep, the ADS zoom goes away when you open and look down at the tablet, as if you disabled the zoom in the settings

[frail pier]

Is it consistent and affect canted? I only use canted really so never noticed

[native rune]

Pretty sure, I’m the opposite I don’t use canted with dedication. But yes taking the tablet back out won’t fix it and neither will switching weapons, so if you want the ADS zoom don’t take the tablet out during the mission (or at least not before you’re done taking care of the suspects)

Can also test it in the station at the shooting range

[light warren]

ñ

[coral rock]

never in my 150 hours of RoN have a heard a suspect say the n word until now

[covert aurora]

Susprise!

[sharp fox]

“susprise”

[covert aurora]

Shh

😛

[flat sparrow]

so what you guys think the new weapons will be?

[prime wing]

they are listed on the dlc page

[flat sparrow]

didnt know they ahd a steam, page already

[shy tulip]

It's pretty new, so you're not at fault for missing it

[flat sparrow]

kind of sad we arnt getting a new ak variant ill be honest

like i would love a ak-105 XD

[umbral oar]

woah woah what

holy

[drifting sand]

If we're talking guns and accessories, 2 things I want to see are a non weapon mounted flashlight, and working LPVOs

[waxen grove]

wait

MP17? dont we already have that?

[prime wing]

no

[stone bay]

I second the LPVOs getting fixed. I have them mounted on my squad's guns solely because they look dope.

[drifting sand]

I'd honestly be fine with their backup sights being useless if that was needed.

But they really need to have their magnification switch.

Canted optics would also be nice; would go well with fixed magnification optics.

[stone bay]

💯

[stone stump]

DM4 sounds like new OP rifle (not that i'm complaining)

[drifting sand]

Also, maybe it's just me but does the Mk18 in game suck?

It feels like the thing has the recoil of a weapon chambered in 7.62.

[stone bay]

You’re not wrong. A muzzle brake makes it manageable, though. I speak from experience.

[drifting sand]

Still.

I think the recoil for it should be lowered; if only on account of it being a 5.56 weapon which shouldn't he putting the recoil on Battle Rifles to shame.

[crude prism]

Void still hasn't figured out that weird bouncy animations are cringe

the mk18 doesn't have much "recoil" in vertical/horizontal screen climb, but the model desyncs from screen center and "bounces" up and down with each shot

[jolly verge]

mk18 recoil way less than slr47 and sa58, but higher for about 40% compare to g36c/f90, still easy to control with smfb and vertical grip

[uncut garden]

Why no Vert grip for SLR

[jolly verge]

it's better have more muzzle options, vert grip is only 10% reduce

we have only pbs suppressor for slr which reduce only 10% of recoil

[drifting sand]

Feels way too much, and I'll say that I honestly have an easier time controlling the 7.62 than the Mk18.

It perhaps exists in an uncomfortable middle where its recoil is too excessive to be used a 5.56 without setting up just right, and its damage is too little to be used as 7.62.

[mystic bobcat]

just bought the game
and it says this on launch

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921528178789474314

[jolly verge]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[stone bay]

We need an S.A.S DLC 🙂 and SEAL team 6!

Embassy Siege map, Bin laden's Compound map!

[tacit falcon]

bin laden map is wild

[uncut garden]

I don't like the Suppressor on it
It ruins the sexiness of the Krinkov

Anyway..We have too many AR-15 platform Rifles
Give us More AKs pls

Bring back AK102 and AK103

[stone bay]

So much potential there, the game is about capturing the most glorious moments of law enforcement and military history. Well those would be two iconic moments to miss surely.

We could also do with a plane map :P? More involvement for hostages etc.?

Embassy Siege

• Trevor Lockwood (Police Officer who was there and captive)
• At least 8-10 hostages
• At least 8 terrorists, but you could vary here, as the embassy had many rooms and at least 3 floors + a sky light entrance.

Bin Laden's Compound

• Had at least 3 main buildings, perimeter too.
• Key Objective: Intel for the computers upstairs and a HVT or two in the house.
• Several hostages who may also have the potential to turn on you, and several terrorists.

[jolly verge]

you can use ak102 and 103 in game, you just need mod that unlocks them

[uncut garden]

I assume that they could potentially be added back later

But sadly the upcoming DLC will feature another AR-15 platform

It's not like we already have enough AR-15 rifles

[tacit falcon]

Ok cool bro... I don't need u to write 2 full essays tho

[stone bay]

Alright chads cool off it was a suggestion, go back to your fun corners 🤣 taking it so seriously

[gaunt gale]

[stone bay]

Thank you Kaminsky

[gaunt gale]

Thank frens

[stone bay]

👆 good suggestion by the way! Maybe uh.. notepad/pen? 😛

I just started this game a week ago, SUPER loving it 🤣

[gaunt gale]

Discussion is good and healthy, but let's try not to let our passion for our ideas overshadow kindness for our fellow officers

[stone bay]

❤️

We're cool ❤️

[mystic bobcat]

the first practise map with the 3 drug dealers is hard bro like we clear the store and then we go back to the start and theres a dude where we cleared it

[gaunt gale]

I will note, but go on record saying that it won't be any time soon, the discussions of future DLCs do include featuring legally distinct foreign SWAT or SWAT-equivalent units

[stone bay]

Hey that's more than I expected 😄 thank you!

I don't exactly know what the UK has for SWAT equivalents, we do have armed police officers but honestly if its anything on a heavy basis, don't we just call an SAS reserve team?

[gaunt gale]

But please keep in mind that they're just discussions

[stone bay]

I am of course Not a veteran or a police officer.. please forgive my ignorance.

[gaunt gale]

It's not a admission that they'll be added

[stone bay]

Oh wait, is it SCO19?...

[gaunt gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone bay]

😄

[gaunt gale]

I genuinely don't know

[stone stump]

in most cases military doesn't get deployed domestically

[covert aurora]

it's either SFO or CTSFO?

thinking CTSFO

[drifting sand]

Is Ides of March bugged?

Seems like either choice leads to the same entry point.

[covert aurora]

the spawn points for brisa cove haven't really worked

[urban walrus]

Yes it is

[noble pasture]

So I need to do Brisa Cove on ironman, here is my roster, who should I bring?
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[covert aurora]

looks good

should be fine if your going for non lethal

[noble pasture]

going for lethal guns

[covert aurora]

i think you should still be ok

[odd plinth]

Good luck on not going boom accidentally.

[noble pasture]

I saw my mistake

I dont have my officers that got skills

Will have to swap them out

[agile olive]

"Achieve a B on mission to unlock" Is this a B specifically or B minimum?

[cold swift]

B minimum

[mental rivet]

do yall also run into that guy who micspams "WatchmenWakeUpOnYT"

[amber dock]

He’s a legend in the Ron community for being a jackass. No real way to get rid of him

[waxen grove]

So what are the new guns? Like not names but what the new guns actually are.

[cold swift]

A pistol and two carbines

[waxen grove]

Ran into the guy once in a phasmo lobby

[spring knoll]

question: do you all have a favourite map?

[waxen grove]

Nope

[spring knoll]

i’m kinda wondering which one is the most popular

since i’m making a little video on the game

[hexed leaf]

I enjoy 213 Park and Neon Nightclub a lot

[cold swift]

I'd say my personal fav is Ends of the earth

[waxen grove]

No map kind of weighs higher then another but it could definitely be because each map feels the exact same

[spring knoll]

do they though lol

[hexed leaf]

They really don't

[cold swift]

Hell no

[spring knoll]

i’ve S ranked through every single one for this video
the maps are a lot of things, good and bad, but they absolutely do not feel the same

[waxen grove]

Unfortunately yeah. I can look at swat 4 maps and each one feels distinct and different while RoN feels the exact same. The layout is different but it all feels the same.

[hexed leaf]

How? Please elaborate

[spring knoll]

this is such a general statement that it’s impossible to even argue

[waxen grove]

Yeah. It’s less a problem of map design and more a limitation of the current ai design.

[spring knoll]

i do agree with you on that. i just think the level design, music and presentation is enough to at least make it feel distinct, even if the AI is severely lacking

i feel like playing this game without music makes it infinitely less fun

[waxen grove]

It’s hard to have a distinct feel if every mission has the ai acting the exact same.

[mental rivet]

ermmm yes there is

[winter orbit]

Valley of the Dolls

[amber dock]

Enlighten me

[mental rivet]

u can crash him with chemlights

I actually did it earlier 2 hours ago

[amber dock]

That won’t get rid of him though he will just come back and create a new lobby

[mental rivet]

yea but hes offline for a while

hes afk the whole time so it keeps him off for a good chunk of time

just requires atleast one person filled with dedication

took me like an hour

[noble pasture]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[river tide]

it isn’t my favorite but i think twisted nerve is the most immersive

[tulip prawn]

so you mean fps drop

that means gpu can't handle those particles xd

[noble pasture]

I am at an inpass

I need to do Elephant but I know stress will tank

[winter orbit]

Put some shitter boys on and let their stress tank

[noble pasture]

So 1 Sbags and 1 moral officer to manage that, do S rank, what else? Pacifier and negotiator?

[winter orbit]

Uhhh
yeah that'd probably work

[noble pasture]

Could do pacifier and crowd control for gas nades

[winter orbit]

That'll do well yeah
atleast
i think

[grave saddle]

Hey is there a way of running Ready or Not by using extracted .pak's

[noble pasture]

I can't wait for the update

I must deliver justice

[stone bay]

I'm kinda hyped for the dlc tbh

[winter orbit]

I want my DDM4

[gaunt gale]

There is not, no.

[grave saddle]

Not even by messing around with the config?

[noble pasture]

Lost an ironman run

Cause my SWAT AI has the survival instinct of a Panda

Sat with his back to a hallway and got gunned down on Elephant

[winter orbit]

R.I.P
Wish there was a way to do Ironman CoOp somehow
Ik it kinda defeats the point but

[noble pasture]

he didnt even cover the hallway

[frail pier]

Most my missions I told them to hold at spawn while I clear lol. It's so much easier that way and less likely they'll get fucked.

[covert breach]

Why is Sins of The Father is so damn hard to S

[stone bay]

if your aim and movement is good,you can use beang bang or use R7 Launcher with a lot of ammo

and leave your teammates npc behind because they will shoot suspect and you cant arrest he in
conscious

[amber dock]

Lots of CS gas to lock down a area and give you time to arrest,reload etc

[waxen grove]

how the fuck

[normal pelican]

whos ron?

[amber dock]

Don’t know

[pale prawn]

Ron Jeremy

[echo edge]

they should add a folding baton

i need to be able to smack ts of of them civis that dont get down after asking for complience like 9 times

[stone bay]

How's RoN doing? Haven't played in months. I don't plan to pick the DLC up, it just doesn't seem like good value, will that be problematic if I just want to play the game? I won't miss out ok maps or anything right?

[echo edge]

i think its in a very good state

[gaunt gale]

You will still be able to play the maps if the host owns the DLC, you just won't have access to some of the DLC-exclusive customization content.

[stone bay]

I remember the A.I. was a bit broken, being way too fast and shooting through walls, or else being utterly brainless. Is that dtill the case?

[echo edge]

yeahhhh

i mean i dont really think its much of an issue anymore

at least for the shooting through walls part, i haven't really experienced much of that since the official launch

[noble pasture]

How can Judge resist stress than most of the officers?

[frail pier]

Hehehe cause he's a puppet

[shy tulip]

He's built different

[noble pasture]

Might have been experimented on by USIA?

[frail pier]

🌸

[noble pasture]

Older lore mentioned something about perfect law enforcement

[elder void]

Update or announcement by tomorrow? Cause game seriously needs update

[elder void]

Game needs to update

[noble pasture]

Soon

[frail pier]

You need to update

[native rune]

Bold of you to assume the game would go anywhere inside year increments

[noble pasture]

So normal officers crap themselves at killing 2 suspects

While Judge can go on 18 missions back to back

[frail pier]

Judge

[noble pasture]

He could also be a Spook

Spook is a name for CIA agent

All the way back in Alpha D platoon had biographies

Judge was only one [redacted]

[echo edge]

he just different

[noble pasture]

His bio also said he showed up one day "as a transfer" but no background

[echo edge]

honestly did not know that

[echo edge]

and now I'm actually really interested in this point

cuz how tf, dude has to be like ex military spec ops or SOMETHING

[noble pasture]

He is either a CIA plant, experimented on by CIA or just a highly functioning psychopath

[native rune]

Gee I dunno, how does any main video game character do anything they do bad to back

[echo edge]

All 3 make great soldiers lmao

[echo edge]

[noble pasture]

CIA's operators are psychos 100%

[echo edge]

let me have my made up lore for why hes like that and not the obvious reasoning of "you cant really translate that into gameplay"

[noble pasture]

A guy that worked as data analyst for in lore's CIA knew Judge

[frail pier]

puppet

it's an obsession what can I say

[frail quartz]

I don't really think of Judge as psychopath, just desensitized to violence

[frail pier]

The perfect soldier sounds like

[hexed leaf]

An incorruptible agent if you will. I saw that term somewhere in the game, I think it was at Gerard Scott's place, probably on one of the conspiracy boards

[raven schooner]

evidence from cherryessa explains alot about judge

[left onyx]

i wish you could return to headquarters when you die in multiplayer

it would be cool if they had a screen somewhere where you can spectate from the headquarters

[grave saddle]

The swat ai when you die in practice mode is pretty neat

I wonder if there’s a way to activate them moving independently like that while you’re alive

Maybe there’s a mod for it

[noble pasture]

Still counts as failure and complex maps fuck up their AI

[grave saddle]

Still neat

[noble pasture]

So does 5.7x28mm have a hollow point irl?

[grave saddle]

What are you talking about

[noble pasture]

Thats the p90 and Five-seven round

[frail quartz]

Yup

[noble pasture]

Expensive?

Jesus fucking christ

FN sells them for 54 dollars a box

A box has 50 rounds

[frail pier]

Honestly thought it'd be more lol

[noble pasture]

So a hollow 5.7 is a dollar a pop

Expensive as balls

Thats same price for a 50 cal round

[stone bay]

what

50 cal is way more expensive

[noble pasture]

It is?

[frail pier]

Try like what 5 bucks a round?

[noble pasture]

Also found cheaper 5,7 ammo

Unsure what it does but its 26 dollars a box

[frail pier]

Steel case?

[noble pasture]

Ohh, training and plinking ammo

SS201

[stone bay]

yeah 50 bmg is like 3-5$ a round and other 50 cal like 50 beo & 458 socom is 2-3$ a round

[frail quartz]

Are rounds like 5.7 and 4.6 so expensive because of the cost of production or just because they aren't as mass produced as popular rounds like 5.56 and 9mm?

[stone bay]

acutally scratch that thats the cheap stuff, if you want actual .50 BMG its like 9-10$ a round

[noble pasture]

Only 1 company makes 5,7 rounds

[stone bay]

Yeah theyre just not as popular, its a niche round so there isnt as much produced.

And no quite a few companies make 5.7, its just how much 5.7 they actually make

[frail pier]

I've never even shot 5.7 lol... what's the huge hype on it anyways? Besides the bullets being mini fuckin missiles.

[stone bay]

i have shot 5.7 and in my opinion its not all its hyped up to be

[frail pier]

Kick like a .45?

[frail quartz]

Anyways, until they make 5.7 more shots to down suspects than 9mm I'm not gonna stop using it

[frail quartz]

I thought 5.7 had less recoil than 9mm

[stone bay]

i didnt shoot the handgun I shot a Ps90, recoil was not bad at all

[frail pier]

Idk never shot one lmao.

[stone bay]

it has a little more but its still pretty controllable

cant speak on the handguns though

[noble pasture]

5,7 is good in RoN

[stone bay]

quite honestly theres much cheaper alternatives that can give you the same result as 5.7

[noble pasture]

Is irons reliable in Ron?

I read you dont get blinded by a flashlight like on red dot

[frail pier]

Depends on the gun really....

[noble pasture]

Mk18

[frail pier]

But canted just feels better imo over irons

[uncut garden]

Well....That depends on the gun
Some gun iron sights obstruct a lot of your view so It's tough to aim through them
Like SA-58 Iron Sight

And with the nature of RON combat...Canted Aiming is the best way to aim in the game tho

[frail pier]

Literally lmao... I use only canted on that because using the sights are a pain. Some guns like smgs it's fine, MK18 I'm not sure on.

[uncut garden]

SLR47 Canted is babe.
I wish that gun had Vertical grip + other muzzle options

Kinda odd for SLR-47 to not have Vert Grip tho

[noble pasture]

A simple vertical grip would be hot

[uncut garden]

And for some reasons 7.62x39 JHP has 0% bleeding chance

[noble pasture]

You take JHP for bleed chance?

[uncut garden]

Well not really
For unarmored oh course. But It's just that the round is bugged currently

[stone bay]

slr47 doesnt have a vertical grip cause its too small and would hit the magazine

[uncut garden]

I'm pretty sure that ya can add Vert grip on that APC-9 SMG which looks the same tho

[stone bay]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message idk it looks like you would not have any room for a vert grip

even the combat grip is almost touching the magazine

[uncut garden]

Well I mean ya can easily fix that by moving the grip a lil bit further outside from the mag tho 👀

But either ways...It would be nice if Devs added more AK platforms into the game

More 7.62x39 rifles

[frail pier]

When unarmored gas station suspects have more health than a dude wearing L4 chest plates....

Make it make sense

[shy tulip]

That's what drugs do to a mf

[uncut garden]

^

Gas Station and Twisted Nerve drug addict built different

[frail pier]

That's fair lol.... fallujah type shit.

Elephant suspects incap on headshots lol?

[uncut garden]

I saw a clip of RON in which a Twisted Nerve drug addict lady suspect literally tanked 12 gauge right in her chest lol

That's just.....BS

[frail pier]

Lungs have left the chat....

[shy tulip]

I think some have armor even if it isn't shown? Might be mixing up maps, still depends on a lot though

With shotguns I can't say that happens a lot, shotguns fuck hard

[frail pier]

They have armor. But why headshot not kill since they have increased health...

[shy tulip]

Idk, I think Mmm said that in his testing that damage was off, so dunno

No one is surviving a shotgun to the head though at any ranges

RoN just obliterates them

[uncut garden]

Enemies have absurb amount of HP is still a thing currently I think
I've repeated 23MB per second map for awhile...Mostlly for testing some guns
And holy hell, How in the F that those gangbangers with no Plates, Kevlar...can be able to tank .357magnum JHP right in the chest is beyond me

[umbral oar]

They cannot

[uncut garden]

Hey...when an unarmored suspect could legit tank through 12 gauge in the chest in the past...Anything is possible

[shy tulip]

Everyone has seen western-cowboy movies so your bullets now have no effect

[stone bay]

🤠

[stone bay]

Adrenaline is one hella of a drug

[frail pier]

Basically if you're gonna get into a gunfight just smoke meth....

GG at the opposing force

[stone bay]

if I'm not wrong, vikings acutally used to get high before fights just to become more efficient at killing

[frail pier]

Checks out... that come down must've been awful.

[winter orbit]

What do you think the after battle feasts were for?
Celebrating was an excuse to deal with it

[frail quartz]

That's what I'm sayin! #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[crude prism]

Just don't miss, or use mods that change damage values

[keen quest]

any channel thats best when looking for a group to hookup with? im new to the server

[stone bay]

#🔎looking-for-players

[keen quest]

thanks! i completely looked that one over lol

[raven estuary]

What's up with Elephant and why does it always destroy my squad's sanity? Other missions, I peacefully restrain five suspects while incapacitating 15 others, meanwhile on Elephant, I get three out of four of them alive and my whole team almost needs therapy all of a sudden all the way from being maxed out Content

[stone bay]

Possibly because you witnessed a school shooting but idk

[native rune]

Maybe possibly because school shooting

[raven estuary]

Oh, is that why? I mean, I am not saying it doesn't make sense but maps like Neon Tomb and Relapse don't seem to affect them at all

So I figured that maps themselves don't have an impact on the squad's mental

[native rune]

I’ve found that team sanity suffers pretty bad in the last half of maps in general but heavily armed suspects certainly don’t help in the apprehension area

[raven estuary]

I see, I have not noticed maps specifically affecting their sanity since I always manage to keep them on Content but every time Elephant just tanked their sanity, so, yeah... I had to ask

[raven estuary]

Exiting to desktop after a mission while I was at the station and it deleted my ironman mode save.

I love this game...

Guess Judge had a heart attack at the station or something.

[stone bay]

Ouch. How far did you get?

[raven estuary]

I was at Carriers of the Vine

[stone bay]

Damn. That sucks,

[raven estuary]

Previous attempt I died on the last mission by some rat hiding in a dark corner

It doesn't take me too long to get back, but... Man. I understand dying by my own fault but losing a save... Hella bullshit.

The heck, it knocked everything, both the ironman mode save and all of my settings

Not sure what happened there but exiting to desktop is cursed, apparently...

[drifting sand]

The AI being terminators in their ability to fight through pain and their willingness to die rather than surrender is a known issue, I'd say.

Hopefully one the next patch seriously looks to addressing.

[opal holly]

yo is there a mod with a black short sleeved t shirt with the coloured american flag on it?

[verbal raft]

How do I bring up the thing where I can choose the map and mode??

[next stone]

masks when

(never)

[covert aurora]

you mean balaclavas?

[noble pasture]

They got teased for this update

[next stone]

wowzers

and whens that gonna be

[noble pasture]

DLC page has screenshots with SWAT having balaclavas

Unknown

[next stone]

[covert aurora]

from what i heard they are coming this update

[next stone]

I feel like gta6 is coming before 'this update'

[noble pasture]

Devs should stop releasing new shit and fix current shit, after dlc 1 ofcourse

1.0 was horrible update, worse than Adam

[next stone]

Idk I didnt see much wrong with it

[noble pasture]

Optimisation shat itself, Suspect AI feels like crackhead John Wick and Friendly AI is still bad

[twin python]

Yeah but AI still feels more alive than it did before

[noble pasture]

Enemy AI rarely surrenders and Friendly AI has 2 quirks

They moon walk while they search for evidence and dont cover angles other than pre coded shit when they stack up

[twin python]

Meh saying "drop your weapon" and hearing an arabic man scream "NO U DROP" back is pretty hilarious

[noble pasture]

I shit you not, Friendly AI walks backwards towards evidence, even if it's across the map

[twin python]

yeah well it's not perfect but it's still better

[uncut garden]

Too rushed

[noble pasture]

No Crack for AI is justified until devs fix the game

[twin python]

AI isn't cracked anymore though?

[noble pasture]

Try to S rank Greased Palms

[twin python]

I did

[noble pasture]

You haven't suceeded

[twin python]

But I did

The AI is reasonable now.

[noble pasture]

With mods

[twin python]

bro no lmao

[noble pasture]

It's impossible to S rank postal map

[twin python]

It is very possible

[noble pasture]

Nu huh

[twin python]

Haven't died to any bullshit since they put out a hotfix for the enemy AI

sure, friendly AI is still a bit dumb but it's way better than it was before

[spark dome]

What are you using?

[noble pasture]

Vks

[spark dome]

I honestly prefer beanbag shotgun

[twin python]

general non-lethal knowledge, VKS long range but inconsistent, very easy to hit as it leaves a cloud of pepper. Beanbag medium range, very consistent, risk of killing, hard to hit

[spark dome]

It's pretty easy to hit tbh

Laser is a must have

And honestly it's better without the scope

[twin python]

idk I have contant 30 FPS with frame drops so if I miss I'm pretty much dead

[spark dome]

You can also spam Q/E while crouching with Alt+D

[twin python]

VKS gives me a chance for redemption

dodge the bullets lmao?

[spark dome]

Hide behind corner

Quick peak

Hide

Or just throw a flash/gas

[noble pasture]

So getting a B will make your guys stressed out

[jolly verge]

Killing make them stress, not score grade

[amber dock]

Well if you get a B then you have killed a few suspect so they will stress

[jolly verge]

you can get B without killing anyone, killing amount is more accurate in that situation

[amber dock]

You will still kill someone, because if you don’t kill anyone then you should get A or S

[jolly verge]

you don't need to kill anyone to get B, you can arrest a few suspects/civi then die and your officers wont get any stress

[amber dock]

Yeah but that’s not completing a mission what? You’re failing to do your job as a police officer

[jolly verge]

i just saying that score grade does not indicate that your team will stress

[noble pasture]

Oh my god

Fine. Let me rephrase it, a civilian stood right up and by a suspect who was actively hostile. I yelled police and he started walking behind the suspect

I nailed the civie in the head accidentally and then the suspect

Got hit with a D

Civie: Hmm, I want to be on the news today as a body

[waxen locust]

Hi guys i have a question, I want to change how the face of the ai look in practice mode, i already changed their outfit and gear but i want to be able to change what their face will look like , like in commander mode, is it possible is some way?

[covert aurora]

i think the practice mode ai is preset

[stone bay]

You can't do that in practice mode, only in multiplayer and commander mode.

[turbid pawn]

Hello, does anyone have any tips for easily making a rank s? Useful equipment? A method of confrontation ? (I know that you have to kill no one and take all the secondary objectives)

[jolly verge]

Commander mode with 2 negotiators and 1 pacifier, for 4rd trait i recommend armorer, after you grind them take VKS and heavy ceramic vest and for your swat ai as well, also take gas mask.
The way you need to play is using corner and shoot near suspects legs with VKS, it's will create pepper smoke that will stun, and because we have pacifier trait that will also make suspect surrender without yelling at him
2 negotiator will give you 50% chance to make suspect surrender from first yell for compliance, so basically you can make half of the map surrender without shooting at them

[turbid pawn]

thank you very much !

[frail pier]

I literally dome at least 1 civ intentionally.

[grave saddle]

Which game files are revelent to the police officers that come to pick up suspects and civilians after everyones been arrested?

[elder void]

Update not today?

[stone stump]

the game binary

[grave saddle]

Got it thanks

[shy tulip]

The last letter was last week, and they confirmed it was moving to every month

[deep rain]

Why VOID doesnt want my money. They could have released so many maps already. 😦 Just stop being perfectionists and make maps that are not taking 6 months

[shy tulip]

turns out that when you port a game over to another version that it takes more work than just pressing "update" in the editor

[deep rain]

well, hire 2 LD from the modder scene, let them work full time, problem solved 😄 😄

[elder void]

?! Like once a month now??

[deep rain]

rest of the team can port game

[shy tulip]

They have hired modders in the past, and that's not really how it works unless you want them to make the DLC, release it, and then have to delay everything because you made a dlc for UE4 when the rest of the game is on UE5.

[shy tulip]

Think so

[stone stump]

rest of the team didn't even port the game in the first place

[deep rain]

well, whoever ports it then

and, btw, I wouldnt even go to UE5 for an existing and released game

thats something for the next project imho

but they decided so they have to suffer 🙂

porting a live game is nothing you really want to do

[shy tulip]

They decided to for the performance improvements + open source tools for developing a proper SDK

Something along those lines

Soon i shall be able to hire a modder to put Gerards AI on a tunnel map alien isolation style

[frail pier]

I laughed a little too hard at this....

[noble pasture]

2 negotiators, 1 armorer and 1 vet?

[elder void]

DLC is up on the Steam Store page now to preview

[glass tide]

Does the map mission in the mode not work every time the year changes?

[stone stump]

what?

[glass tide]

Forexample I downloaded map on 2024 but when I playing again after 1year that modded map will not operating well even if I put in mod files?

[glass tide]

I downloaded a map that updated in 2024 since I was busy had no time to play but when I played 2024 mission in 2025 saved in mod files it won't work?

[stone stump]

what? no, it will work as long as the mod is still compatible

which is pretty easy to get as the game updates once a decade

the next update will fuck every single mod though

[glass tide]

Ok

Thank you for your information

[lofty prism]

jeez the ai in this game is unbearable

[noble pasture]

I like to think Amos Voll gets killed in prison

When you get caught with so much CP, it's unhideable from other inmates

Held down and shanked in the balls

[lofty prism]

agree

[noble pasture]

Same for George Pixley

He was Amos's pall

[lofty prism]

barely bought this game like 2 days ago

possibly the start of an addiction

got an A+ on greased palms

[noble pasture]

Practice, commander or ironman mode?

[lofty prism]

commander

[noble pasture]

Ah, a paramedic officer will help one of your guys if they go down

Just make sure the paramedic doesn't go down

[lofty prism]

i have paramedic, kicker, veteran, and breacher

all with unlocked ability

all running beanbag shotgun too

[noble pasture]

Ohhh no

[lofty prism]

what?

[noble pasture]

Bean bag shotgun not only is a less lethal weapon, making the game harder, but kills on headshots

[lofty prism]

yeah i know

i’m trying to minimize deaths so my squads mental health is good and that i get the most amount of points

is that a good strategy?

it’s been working for me since im getting like an A a good amount of times

[noble pasture]

Well, you can bring lethal guns

And go with pepper ball guns on gas station to recupate mental health

[lofty prism]

alright

don’t think i’ll need that all of my team is content

[noble pasture]

Okay, now learn ID

If a person has their gun above waist, shoot, they are fully hostile

Beneath waist they are either relaxed or undecided what to do

If someone reaches behind their back with an angry face, it's a gun

[lofty prism]

okay 👍

[noble pasture]

If they got a puffy vest with wires that's an explosive vest, skip yelling for compliance and shoot to kill

I think it's exclusive to 1 or 2 maps

[trail bobcat]

shoot at the pelvis they go down and they wont die

[lofty prism]

i heard about that

definitely will try going lethal weapons and shoot at pelvis

[royal nimbus]

simply kill everyone

[sick pine]

Dont civilians also have that

[noble pasture]

forgot that detail

[sick pine]

Yeye i dont think they blow up tho

Just there to test your trigger discipline

[stray sonnet]

How do I avoid door traps my entire squad keeps dying I tried to tell them to use the mirror but they don't listen

[covert aurora]

peek the door

look at the floor

you can see a blackwire

you can then order your squad to disarm it

or if you attempt to disarm is do your best not to bump the door

[stray sonnet]

Thanks I thought ai would spot the wire itself

[covert aurora]

if they mirror it they should? but if mirrors aren't working that's your next best thing to do

[dense bay]

they should add a map that just so happens to look like the 1993 Waco seige aswell as an ATF skin, they don't have anything to do with eachother or anything...

[noble pasture]

An advantage of the Pepper ball gun is that you don't need to yell

Can shoot first, yell, and then shoot more

[dense bay]

you can also use in in civillians for no reason

why stop the active shooter when you can become it?

in game of course

i can't rotate my character in customization

this is actually pissing me off

words cant describe how bad this is pissing me off

[hasty crag]

what is the price gonna be for the upcoming dlc?

[noble pasture]

Unknown

[hasty crag]

im really hoping its gonna be 10-15€

since it has only 3 maps

[noble pasture]

Devs: 30 euros or no shot

I believe them to get greedy

Might use Shadow of the Erdtree as excuse to overcharge for dlc

[dense bay]

how do i put my sight on 1x for the ATAK-R?

nvm

"1x-12x" my ass

[lofty prism]

shouldn’t it say on the bottom left?

[dense bay]

you can't change the zoom on them

[hasty crag]

30€ is way too high

considering that 30€ used to be the cost of the base game

but 30€ for 3 maps???

[noble pasture]

Doom got away with it

Ancient gods part 1 had like 3 levels and was 30 euro on release

[waxen falcon]

hi how do i use the less lethal training room with a non-hostile npc?

[jolly verge]

what you mean by use?

[waxen falcon]

i cant find it

[jolly verge]

it's downstairs, right after shooting range, then you go right

[waxen falcon]

its not there?

do i have to of completed all 18 missions?

[covert aurora]

are you in commander mode? or practice mode?

[waxen falcon]

commander

[jolly verge]

if you have closed doors then you need complete more mission

[waxen falcon]

oh ok

im on BUY CHEAP, BUY TWICE am i close?

[jolly verge]

i think it's will open after last mission

[waxen falcon]

oh

[jolly verge]

which is port hokan

[waxen falcon]

ok

thanks

[jolly verge]

just in case, all rooms are opened if you join multiplayer lobby or create your own

[covert aurora]

^

[random sentinel]

I don't think the dlc will be sold at that high of a price since the base game costs only around EUR 14.50 in my area

Also, I think the devs said sth abt making the dlc free for the supporter edition owners

[waxen falcon]

its not there in multiplayer for me but ok

[jolly verge]

sure you in the right place? Downstairs then to the right, there also will be resupply table and npc behind glass

[waxen falcon]

wait i found it thanks how do i respawn him?

[jolly verge]

yeah, just cuff him and he will respawn after a few seconds

[waxen falcon]

ok thank you

[noble pasture]

14.50 with discount or localised price? its 50 euro normally

[random sentinel]

It's localised

[noble pasture]

ah, its 50 euros in Europe

I got it at around 30

[random sentinel]

Wow, I didn't think they would use regional pricing for the game

Not to mention the drastic price difference

[tawdry cave]

50$ Steam Summer Gift - https://u.to/u-PFIA

[split elk]

@hollow falcon Scam link

[noble pasture]

-be me
-arrest a suspect
-another suspect bursts in mid animation
-my SWAT AI suddenly is blind and deaf
-let's me die

Wonderful fucking coding devs

[lofty prism]

the swat ai would just ignore my commands one time

[noble pasture]

For me it's constantly with stack up command

[lofty prism]

i’d get ignored when i order them to ram the door

[noble pasture]

Until swat ai gets properly fixed, I will do the glitch to save my ironman run

[lofty prism]

hate when the swat ai would shoot the hostage along with the suspect

[barren osprey]

hey everyone

[lofty prism]

then they kill the person im supposed to arrest for the objective

[noble pasture]

civies in this game have the survival instinct of a brick

2 civies were hanging out like nothing was going on in a dark corner in the basement

so knowing that the civilian looking suspect was still at large I lit them up

-400 points

Stupid 20 yo: Police is raiding the place, lets hide in dodgiest place we can find so they kill us

[split elk]

Ironman commander trying to get through with no death
Move and clear
Clear
continue clearing after I issue fall in behind me
Suspect with a SLR-47 right on the corner: KAWABUNGA

[noble pasture]

you can dodge death in ironman

if you hit pause while dying and go back to menu you keep the save but squad gets a sanity penalty

doesnt work for SWAT AI death

[split elk]

I prefer the superior method of ALT-F4

[noble pasture]

My problem is Devs keep making sway AI shit

And suspect AI john wick

It's a 3 plus years problem

Swat AI while not licking walls anymore

They stare at weird angles

Wasn't SWAT 4's AI baked into the map?

Aka bots look at specific nodes and depending on code prioritise them

[mental fable]

Will the Home Invasion DLC drop this year or next year ?

[noble pasture]

Most likely this year

They made a steam page for it and the teasers

[mental fable]

Those look sick

I wonder if the SWAT will have raincoats like the old artwork

[mental fable]

I just hope they don't fuck this up now just like 1.0

[noble pasture]

Also the devs promised you pay only for the maps

New guns will be part of the free update

[mental fable]

And the UE5

[noble pasture]

Ah fuck

[mental fable]

Hopefully the update won't self destruct our PCs

[noble pasture]

Why does everyone want UE5? It has shit optimisation

[mental fable]

Probaly trying to make the people think they're in a real life simulation

Idk

[noble pasture]

Before UE5 was released UE4 was the shit, now its not anymore?

Who says RoN looks bad with UE4 is a lying pos

[mental fable]

The Devs take inspiration from Bodycam and Unrecord

So they probaly want to look the same as Unrecord

[noble pasture]

Both of those games have low populations

[mental fable]

Unrecord has not been released

[noble pasture]

Also did you know a mobile game is heavily referenced in RoN?

Easter eggs are engraved on the guns

[mental fable]

No

[noble pasture]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

On the right

GFLHG003

Translates to Girl's Frontline, Handgun, nr 003 which is the M9 Beretta pistol

[mental fable]

What's that mobile game called ?

[noble pasture]

Girls Frontline

A little passion project that doesnt shill out like other games

[copper cypress]

Do the suspects in the Rust level have any weapons training?

[manic ginkgo]

WHAT is the point of you being a heavily armored swat unit when you get shot once and instantly just drop dead lmao

Yeah no fuck this sinst of the father mission

its impossible. Like imagine being rushed by 1000000 heavily armored dudes with fully automatic rifles who tank everything

[flint inlet]

😂

[manic ginkgo]

How is this a job for the swat and not the goddamnt army lmao

not to mention your ai companions are garbage. They just get stuck sometimes.. just standing somewhere

like right now. Standing at a door, staring at it

not being able to breach kick or do anything but stare for 200 years

I seriously give up with this mission

it is impossible. I can use gas, shotguns, fucking ar15s but these enemies will tank it while i go down in 2 shots

[noble pasture]

Also devs please

fix the Friendly AI on Ranch

[manic ginkgo]

these are supposed to be secret service agents NOT FUCKING NAVY SEAL omg

[noble pasture]

they absolutely ignore two thirds of the orders

and shit themselves

gave a flash and clear to red team

they abruptely got alzerheimers and forgot about the order

once they even forgot how to open an unlocked door

[white quartz]

it's not as frustrating as giving a team the order to flashbang/sting/gas a room, only for the point guy to run into the room first while his friend in the rear casually pulls out a flashbang and throws into the room his friend is being shot in

[past pawn]

guys how do i talk to the founder of void interactive

[noble pasture]

I dont think you can

[past pawn]

really but he said i should check the game out

[quaint tartan]

Is there a no russian map?

[past pawn]

Yes there’s a no russian american map

[noble pasture]

No, you cant be an active shooter

[manic ginkgo]

LOL

[quaint tartan]

is there a mod that adds a gun with more pen?

[manic ginkgo]

Yep shotgunned a guy directly

didnt die and kills me. Typical ready or not logic

I swear shotguns suck ass

The fucking wallhacks these enemies have dont help either

Just wallbanging whenever they can

The battering ram also is not working either with the ai

Yeah nope this mission is impossible

[jolly verge]

what mission?

[manic ginkgo]

sins of the father..

[jolly verge]

What loadout you have? Do you have rifle with AP? Suspects here wear level 4 armor

[manic ginkgo]

I try using shotgun bc thats waht people recommended

i tried fucking ar, shotgun, smg etc to no avail

they tank it all even with apparent armor breaking rounds

[jolly verge]

shotgun with buckshot good too, just aim for limbs and it's will insta oneshot

it's wont pen any armor

only rifles with AP can pen level 4 armor that suspects wear

you also should carry heavy vest with ceramic

[manic ginkgo]

ok well ill switch to AR

any recommendations?

[jolly verge]

try use mirror before breaching into rooms, there only 10-13 suspects on this map, so it's should not be that hard actually, or let your team do everything for you

give them ar with AP too

[manic ginkgo]

well i equipped the g36c with the armor piercing rounds

on everyone

and lots of gas...

a bit questionable coming from a german but yeah whatever helps

[jolly verge]

you playing commander or practice mode?

[manic ginkgo]

practice

[upbeat heath]

sa56 (if that was the name) on jhp bullets is sigma

[jolly verge]

JHP wont pen level 4 armor and it's pointless on this map

[manic ginkgo]

a crime the carrying handle isnt on the gun

[jolly verge]

it's wont oneshot suspects anyway

[upbeat heath]

still stuns them so you can get an easy headshot

[jolly verge]

that 2 shots, and you can incap them by just shooting 2 torso shot

and it's have same limb damage multiplier as AP ammo

[noble pasture]

So aparentely SA-58 shreds in bot hands

Shame they just go full auto

That problem being they go full auto with a 20 round mag

[next olive]

Aim for the face

[ionic gale]

Have you guys randomly been in this lobby of this dude called watchmen wake up on YT?

It looks like it’s just preaching and there’s not really a game in there

That is all. I just wanted to know if you guys have been in that weird lobby somehow

[noble pasture]

Everyone knows him

[ionic gale]

ah

[noble pasture]

Its an overzelous christian who bought this game only to preach the bible

Never ever plays the game

[ionic gale]

ah ;-;

[noble pasture]

Been at it for about 2 years now

He resides in public lobbies so easy to avoid

[ionic gale]

its a bot? or an actual lad who goes in every day?

[noble pasture]

Actual person

[shy tulip]

100% a bot in my view

[ionic gale]

damn

[stone bay]

two years?! holy shit

[shy tulip]

I've heard he's infesting other games, which can't be possible if it's just one dude, and they apparently have scripts for auto rejoining RoN if they crash.

[ionic gale]

He is a interesting fellow for sure

[manic ginkgo]

ok my biggest issue now is.. to find the remaining guys lol. Idk if i got all civs bc somehow one got killed

[noble pasture]

Got an acomplishment to share

[manic ginkgo]

did u beat the entire game in commander mode solo with a pistol only?

[noble pasture]

Beat "Way out West" challenge

[manic ginkgo]

Or that

[noble pasture]

Took a few tries, on a vanilla save because I didnt know what counted as usable

In the end sent my bots with SA-58's and steel armor

Got a B

[ionic gale]

I may buy the first dlc if its not too pricey

[manic ginkgo]

i hope it wont be too pricey either

[noble pasture]

SA-58 are heavy hitters but chew ammo

[manic ginkgo]

do u got the supporters edition?

[ionic gale]

I never bought supporter edition so i gotta fork over thw cash

[manic ginkgo]

Ah okay

[noble pasture]

Oh yeah, supporters get it for free

Shame you cant get supporter anymore

But was 80 bucks

[ionic gale]

;-;

[manic ginkgo]

I FINISHED SINS OF THE FATHER

FUCK YES

[shy tulip]

Do you understand what my Sins are now

[manic ginkgo]

Lmao what the

a fucking e

omg

well idc i did it

[shy tulip]

I think that basically means you fucked up bad

Dunno if it will unlock the next mission

[manic ginkgo]

yes it did

but i had 2 dead officers, 1 dead civ, few times unauthorized force

[jolly verge]

does not matter what score you get, just be alive after mission complete

[manic ginkgo]

yes

neon next

[noble pasture]

Give bots light armor?

[shy tulip]

I think there are some maps where you have to take specific NPCs alive, like Greased, I dunno exactly though

my head is splitting otherwise to really care

[manic ginkgo]

I know on that post map you gotta take one alive

[jolly verge]

nope, only heavy vest

[noble pasture]

Heavy vest full?

[quaint tartan]

Is there any way to change the stats of my gun?

[manic ginkgo]

attachments i would say

[jolly verge]

yeah

[noble pasture]

Balance mags and bangs?

5 AR mags, 1 pistol mag and 5 bangs on bots

I like sending bangs into rooms

I never seen bots reload more than once tho

[jolly verge]

it's fine

[noble pasture]

How would you change it? Looking to do Sins of the Father ironman mode

So extended engagements

Maybe 4 AR mags, 2 pistol mags and 5 bangs

[manic ginkgo]

Good luck on that one lol

[noble pasture]

Hk416 with AP rounds, as for pistol Five Seven on AP

[manic ginkgo]

I mean pistol wise i would pick the 1911 as it has even better armor penetration no?

[noble pasture]

Ehh?

Pistol is more "Oh shit, rifle is out" for bots

How does 45 acp beat 5.7?

[manic ginkgo]

at least the ammo selection to me for the five seven doesnt really say it can penetrate armor other than light

[noble pasture]

Hmm, which 1911?

There are 2, a tan and black one

Tan supports underbarrel

[manic ginkgo]

black

[noble pasture]

Okay

[manic ginkgo]

45 ACP PB

[noble pasture]

Give bots the AK with AP ammo?

Should handle the recoil

My problem with SA-58 is limited ammo by a lot with 20 rounders

[manic ginkgo]

I mean these are heavily armored people. if you still speak of the father map

[jolly verge]

if you want to do ironman you better grind traits that can help you with it, like 2 negotiators, armorer and maybe veteran to increase your swat ai accuracy or nutritionist to increase their health

[noble pasture]

Got all 4

2 negotiators, 1 vet and 1 armorer

[jolly verge]

this or .300 AP but only on maps where suspect do wear level 4 armor, for any other give them JHP

[noble pasture]

Did have to save scum

Got killed on Valley Map once

I breached the lounge room near Amos's office and was only 1 guard, surrendered and I went for arrest

The same fucking second a guard came and started spraying me like a dog

[manic ginkgo]

Happened so often to me omfg

[jolly verge]

don't arrest, let your teammates do it instead

and cover them

[noble pasture]

Yeah, so I had to juke the game over screen

[manic ginkgo]

sometimes i have to let the ai restrain the bodies bc it wont work on my end at times

it would just be an endless loop and you wont start cuffing

[noble pasture]

Fun fact, a suspect is faking being dead if AI wont arrest them

[manic ginkgo]

lol

[noble pasture]

Yeah, 100% if a downed criminal isnt being arrested by AI, its a fake

[shy tulip]

"Don't shoot" the suspect turning the corner:

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-keanu-reeves-guns-shooting-gif-14377088

[noble pasture]

Bonus points tho

[manic ginkgo]

THIS

[shy tulip]

valley still freaks me out with that

[noble pasture]

Or a guard on Valley telling you to drop your gun

Why is 300 blk so good at armor penning in this game?

Isnt that thing sub sonic irl?

[manic ginkgo]

It still is a 7.62×35 mm round fired out of an AR

ok well i looked it up

You are right, it doesnt have enough velocity to shoot through level 3 or higher armor

like steel is not possible to penetrate with it

[noble pasture]

So a normal 5,56 is better

Even better with ap tip

I think 5,56 that can defeat level 4 armor is expensive

[manic ginkgo]

Neither

level 3 and up are made to stop 5.56

[noble pasture]

I swear I seen a video of a guy defeating level 4 with 5.56

[manic ginkgo]

Well its a video game xD

[noble pasture]

Irl you dunmy

[manic ginkgo]

Oh lol

[noble pasture]

I recall it was expensive ammo

[manic ginkgo]

Yeah i think there is 5.56 ammo that can penetrate that

there is like a bazillion versions out there

I wonder when we get dragon breath ingame 🤣

[uncut garden]

War Crime ROE

[manic ginkgo]

HAHAHAHAHA i mean its modelled after the LAPD so..

we all know american police are... cough

[uncut garden]

Personally I would like RON to have more AK platform
Anythang...5.56 AK or 7.62 or even 5.45

[manic ginkgo]

I mean

This is swat what we are talking about. I doubt they really ever used AKs

lol

[uncut garden]

It's a video game after all tho

[manic ginkgo]

That is trying to portray a realistic approach to the swat team xD

[uncut garden]

We already have so many AR-15 plarform

The upcoming gun is also another AR-15 like

[manic ginkgo]

It is one of the most versatile platforms really

lightweight, shoots rifle ammo

etc

not surprised the swat would use ar15s

[uncut garden]

who cares
Too many AR already
Give us Alpha guns eg M14, G3, AK103 and AK102

[raven schooner]

game is based around american swat which basically only use ar's

M14 would be cool tho

[noble pasture]

SA-58 in the corner

[manic ginkgo]

True

[winter orbit]

I wouldn't mind a properly modelled G3, but at the end of the day AR platforms are commonplace for a reason, and all the ingame ones are unique so

[uncut garden]

SA58 but with 30 rounds mag

No civilians are safe

[winter orbit]

G3 with 50round drum

[languid glade]

can anybody tell me why i was getting really good fps before this game came out officially after it has im getting like 20 - 30 fps how do i even fix this

[noble pasture]

an AI team mate actively tried to kill me

we breached in a room, he went in another and tripped a flashbang trap

the trap was to the room we breached

if that was a grenade trap he would have gotten the whole room killed

[jolly verge]

send pc specs in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[noble pasture]

in same mission when I ordered a clear, the first man speedy gonzales to the left leaving the other 3 to clear

got to neon tomb on my ironman save, beat sins of the father

only took me 27 minutes cause of pos hiding suspects

[manic ginkgo]

on buy cheap, buy twice, how heavily armored are the enemies?

[jolly verge]

only L2 vests, so you can switch to JHP on rifles

[noble pasture]

Neon Tomb is coded to stress my guys?

Got a B on Sins of the Father and only 1 got anxious

[jolly verge]

nope, only elephant

[manic ginkgo]

would an smg work too?

[jolly verge]

what amount of killed/incaped and arrested?

[noble pasture]

Ah, got a 416 and a 1911 in case of emergencies, bring AP?

[noble pasture]

Didn't keep count but I think I only seen 2-3 suspects in their own blood

[jolly verge]

yeah, but with AP, for 5.7 and 4.6 you still can use JHP

[noble pasture]

Most got incaped

[manic ginkgo]

JHP says tho its innefecitve at defeating armor

[jolly verge]

it's wont say what armor it's cant pen exactly

if you need to know what ammo can pen exactly use this spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

[noble pasture]

Bring AP to Neon no?

[jolly verge]

if 5.56 then yes

[noble pasture]

Yes, tan or black 1911?

[jolly verge]

five seven with AP, in case you really will out of ammo in mid fight

.45 AP wont pen l3a

[noble pasture]

Bring a spare mag for Five Seven?

[frail quartz]

They're both the same functionally iirc

[jolly verge]

at least 1, it's 20 bullets in so should be enough

[frail quartz]

It's just that the black 1911 is an older model than the modernized tan 1911

[noble pasture]

Bots tend to spam their ammo like they got it for free @jolly verge

A huge problem on guns like pepper ball

I seen a swat AI spend half a mag on 1 guy

[jolly verge]

they cant really hit with it because it's not hitscan weapon

it's using projectile

[noble pasture]

So I can see them waste Five Seven ammo cause suspect is at a weird angle

[jolly verge]

you need only 2 bullets to incap suspect on neon with 5.56 AP

so i don't think bots will have problems with it, especially with veteran trait

[noble pasture]

Get the big red dot on Five Seven?

Rmr is a bit small

[jolly verge]

yeah, it's better

[noble pasture]

Silencer or not?

[manic ginkgo]

nice

[jolly verge]

you can set it for a 10% recoil reduction, but it's also increase gun length

[frail quartz]

The supressor doesn't effect recoil on the five-seven

no wait

it does, nvm

[jolly verge]

just a bit

[manic ginkgo]

IN THE end we could also make the argument the supressors wont make your ears explode when u are shooting an AR indoors

[frail quartz]

Yea but it looks and sounds cool 😤

[stone bay]

They’re swat they have hearing protection

At least I hope so not sure how hard that lack of los suenos police funding hits

[noble pasture]

Use a shield swat AI on Club?

[jolly verge]

dont give ai shields, they cant use it properly

[winter orbit]

Don't give AI
They can't use properly

[manic ginkgo]

Idk they used it fine for me

[noble pasture]

AI in my Sins map cleared a corner with his back

[manic ginkgo]

what a g

[noble pasture]

I almost had an Aneurysm

Why is it so fucking hard to code friendly AI?

Some things in the SWAT AI devlog for 1.0 straight up don't work

[manic ginkgo]

I mean this is human behavior that has to be simulated tbh

but i do ask myself why the ai is so.. incompetent

ONce on that school shooting map, i had my entire squad STUCK in a small room and were not able to go out until i went back there to call them to me

[noble pasture]

You would think that because we are fewer, the operators train better

But seems like they skipped Clearing classes

[manic ginkgo]

idk, but even with mods the ai is .. leaving much room to wish for

[noble pasture]

Instead of entering a room in pairs they enter 1 by 1 leaving first man exposed

Or when a Swat AI has to enter a room and just fucks off

He left

[left onyx]

is there a way to see people youve recently played with in ron?

[noble pasture]

One of my swat AI just refused to enter a room, instead of being first man he fucked off to the left

Code ain't coding

3 other AI had to breach on their own

[winter orbit]

best option is steam recent players

[static current]

just bought ron, am I cooked ? :()

[left onyx]

its fun

[winter orbit]

but if somebody was playing whilst being invisible on steam, or something like that then you're a bit screwed

[manic ginkgo]

no youre not. Ai can be fixed and it in itself is a challenging but rewarding game to play :>

[noble pasture]

Here is your military grade rifle, shoot anyone who looks like they own a gun

[winter orbit]

or looks like they shouldn't own one

[manic ginkgo]

I will refrain from making a comment

[noble pasture]

XD

[static current]

Does said rule include civilians with finger guns :=)

[manic ginkgo]

no

[noble pasture]

They gonna pull their phones at you in most threatening manner

[static current]

Is gunplay good in this game though? I've heard that it's good and realistic :D

[noble pasture]

Recoil is as if devs never touched a gun in their lives. But yes it's good

[manic ginkgo]

there is mods who can fix that

[noble pasture]

Guns irl have less recoil than those in RoN

I seen a custom AK with zero recoil

[manic ginkgo]

esp if we talking bloody ar-15s

[static current]

I play rust I don't think any kind of recoil can go lower than that =D

[noble pasture]

Rust's guns is throwing rocks at eachother

[static current]

Yup, absolute joke. I can't fathom how a person thinks "hmm we have the most unique and rewarding competitive gunplay, lets make all guns sound the same and lets just make the recoil smaller than an airsoft gun"

[winter orbit]

rust is unique and rewarding?

whatever you smoke cna i have some please?

[static current]

I can't make rust enjoyable for me after playing it for a bit over 3600 hours before the recoil change XD

[noble pasture]

Biblically accurate recoil

[static current]

😂

[noble pasture]

And God said: Thy barrel shall be stable and thy recoil none

[static current]

I love how they chose the one factor for recoil to not be movement but instead be crouch

[manic ginkgo]

TASERS are such a pain to equip and use

tghere is no hotkey

[noble pasture]

My mouse scroll wheel is barked so I have to double tap 2 and instead I hit 1 reloading

[manic ginkgo]

rip

[static current]

Why is my internet just worse and worse every week??? A few weeks back I could download GTA5 in 2 hours, now I have 2.5 hours for this game ☹️

[manic ginkgo]

check if you dont got something else downloading

[static current]

youtube video :D

[ionic gale]

Yo

[static current]

cant wait for the download to be ready at 1-2 am =D

[static current]

it was task manager. It took 1.2 mb/s

now the download is hella unstable though

[river tide]

when's the dlc coming out
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[winter orbit]

Cringe

[shy tulip]

When it's ready

[mossy temple]

i. want. the. friendship. bracelet.

why. do. i. have. to. S. rank. elephant.?

[silk junco]

just like get a mod thst unlocks it for you

[mossy temple]

no no no

im stubborn

[winter orbit]

be fast
use beanbag gun
have good teammates

[umbral oar]

it's pretty easy

[noble pasture]

I need tips to clear rooms safer

[shy tulip]

Have you tried to offer pie to the doors

[noble pasture]

Hmm

[amber dock]

safe

[stable kernel]

Not enough cluster munitions

[manic ginkgo]

Ok i did all the main missions. now i can uninstall the game

[shy tulip]

Now do all the modded maps

[manic ginkgo]

i have plenty to pick from

tho the one i wanted to try.. crashed my game LOL

[shy tulip]

All of the modded maps

[manic ginkgo]

no

[winter orbit]

yes

[ionic gale]

Voll’s Staircase

[stray sonnet]

Anybody else think the dude who reads the mission description kinda sounds like obama lmao

[harsh wedge]

can someone help i downloaded a mod but then deleted it and its stil there how do i fix

[covert aurora]

You have to find the pak file in your ready or not fols and delete it. If you did that while in game you have to restart your game

[raven estuary]

I just started up Rust Belt and it said it's a modded map and it might take longer to load?

Well, that was weird

[keen aspen]

So I used the in game mods from mod.io. Through the game itself. Well now I can only play singleplayer. If I play multiplayer I don't have a secondary and pretty much any controls other than walking launches me into the ceiling. I've tried millions of things and nothings working. Can someone help?

[gaunt gale]

What mods exactly?

[edgy perch]

give us a demo!!!

[stable kernel]

Likely one of the ones that gives access to the m249 or rpd. It can cause users to appear gigantic

[keen aspen]

I got it thank you!

It was some weapons mod. Gave you a whole bunch of guns. There was an update for it and a couple others. After updating it just spazzed out. I don't remember the exact names. It was awhile ago and I watched millions of videos and tried so many things. I eventually just gave up and stopped playing for awhile

[jolly verge]

probably sniper or not mod, that unlocks suspects weapons like m249, rpd, calico and custom ar25, those will make you bigger if you remove mod and still have them in your loadout

[stable kernel]

I didn't know the other ones ccaused it as well, good to know.

[noble pasture]

Wait, did RoN ever have a heavy Scar?

[prime wing]

doubt

[covert aurora]

nope just a Scar L

[noble pasture]

I know the game had pvp in its first days

[covert aurora]

mmhm. then it was dropped to focus on PvE/Coop, they do want to add PvP. Just in a form thats actually fits into the game

[noble pasture]

Oh no, it will just turn into a Siege clone

But cant do physically worse than Siege, all they ever do is nerf shit, release a broken operator and then nerf them a week later

[jolly owl]

Negotiator and Intimidator is just fucking overpowered lmao

Literally made the terrorists in Neon Tomb instantly surrender the moment they see my team breach in

(Im using like the Tactical version of Ready or Not Here I Come AI so im not sure if the same goes for vanilla lmao)

[static current]

ngl I just downloaded enough mods to make this game just a straight shooting range (more slots, AI overhaul, no point loss for dead suspects and guns) can't wait for maps to download :D

[jolly verge]

Intimidator do nothing, it's negotiator that do the trick with instant surrender

[jolly owl]

Well I think its the AI mods I been running that made Initimidator do something imo

[stone stump]

cringe

[jolly verge]

nope, it's just a negotiator trait itself doing this

it's op in vanilla as well

[static current]

😃

[noble pasture]

Beat Neon Tomb

[lofty prism]

cleared watt community college

got an a+!!!!

i survived a headshot lmao, my vision was all blurry

[noble pasture]

@jolly verge down to my last 4 maps of the ironman run

Car dealership, cult house, hospital and port

Can I get away with killing no shoots on Cult Map?

Hmm, AP ammo does less flesh damage and can incap in 2 bullets

[jolly verge]

use JHP on all those 4 maps, but only on .300 and slr47

[jolly verge]

what you mean?

[noble pasture]

2 suspects are to be taken alive

The black lady and the blonde one

[jolly verge]

you don't need to take them alive, you will unlock next mission anyway

[noble pasture]

Ah okay, so JHP?

[jolly verge]

yeap, but not on 5.56

[vocal night]

is there any fix to blood looking white under certain lighting?

[noble pasture]

Since its ironman, shoot anyone with a gun?

I do have 2 negotiators, but unsure how good it will be

[jolly verge]

it's 50% to make suspect surrender with first yell, if he did not surrender from first yell - shoot

you can try take shield and yell

[noble pasture]

My guys made a suspect surrender out of sight