👮ron-discussion

[pearl shuttle]

I know Ballistic's replacers do that by default

[pliant void]

yeah all swat dudes take cocaine, must of missed that bit 😛

[stone bay]

wait, DLC so separate, additional paid content or is it just called like that for updates?

ah nvm found it

well i might buy it if it's cheap enough

[shy tulip]

It's free content including an update with a 3 map dlc that only hosts need to be able to use

[pearl shuttle]

VOID bad

[stone bay]

Well if maps will be good ill prolly buy

Thanks for saying btw

Im scared to see RON in UE5 tbh

[jolly verge]

Are your pc ready?

[stone bay]

Idk lmfao

[silk yoke]

Yeah I'm just worried that the jump to ue5 is gonna cause performance problems like whatever happened at 1.0

[stone bay]

Im scared my pc wont suddenly met requiretments

[umbral oar]

at least they're not rushing the dlc

[stone bay]

Atleast they dont lock alot content behind another paywall, 3 maps dlc that hosts only needs to own seems fair

[jolly verge]

it's will be slower compare to ue4, but with proper tools in ue5 they can make it better for sure + we finally gonna get pso precaching

[elder void]

There's been a bug happening with UE5 games where you get an error message saying that you're out of Video Memory. And this is happening with 4090 users

So this switch to UE5 concerns me

[stone bay]

Seeing from screenshots it will be worth

[jolly verge]

it's not 4090 related issue, it's happening mostly on 13900-14900 cpus

[shy tulip]

I'm starting to think that the 4090 is just bad because nvidia stock

[jolly verge]

due to oodle compression issue, pretty much intel fault

[shy tulip]

AI chip company moment

[jolly verge]

just make sure to stable your cpu (reducing performance core ratio to reasonable value)

[elder void]

Yeh, but for some people the message pops up but doesn't prevent you from playing the game, so they just ignore it

[jolly verge]

usually it's should close the game after a few seconds, but if they able to play game after that it funny

[stone bay]

Wait did 1.1 already drop or am i crazy

[shy tulip]

No

[elder void]

This is my case with Robocop Rogue City. Out of video memory message pops up, but I can put it behind the game window and continue playing 😂

[silk yoke]

Nah last update was like uhhhhhhh

[stone bay]

Wait, so if i understand right, for now DLCS are gonna be just paid maps along exclusive uniform?

[silk yoke]

The less wallbangs update?

[jolly verge]

you have 13900-14900 cpu?

[elder void]

Yeh, i9 14900k

[jolly verge]

just use XTU and reduce performance core ratio and it's will be good, heres a link to guide https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

[shy tulip]

Yes, if I understnad correctly as well.

[elder void]

Thanks, but it's only popped up once since the last Nvidia patch. Dunno why since it's a CPU issue

[hollow citrus]

why post roadmap if you cant follow it🤡

[shy tulip]

Why rush a dlc is there's gonna be complaints either way

[hollow citrus]

exactly, void setted for no deadline approach 2 years ago, why change it again if it clearly doesnt work?

[shy tulip]

From my view, player complaints. It's always Void doesn't know how to communicate, they never give dates, etc. I much prefer they just work on shit and announce it when it's already done

[amber dock]

^

[hollow citrus]

yeah true on that, it confuses the fuck out of everybody and honestly it smiply doesnt put a good fit when you dont stand up to promises. rather cooking your stew in silence would be already better approach.

[shy tulip]

Don't get me wrong, I like the news letters and look forward to em every two weeks, but I assume there's pressure on Void when you see people talkin stuff like "It would be better if you guys just never did letters and only spoke when you were ready to update the game"

[muted star]

Damn if you do, damn if you don't

[hollow citrus]

i mean if you check comments on steam newsletters half of the shit is negative and about fixing AI. it doesn't look good and to fix that there will have to be much deeper community management than just news letters, like the helldivers managers when they talk on reddit and answer hundreds of comments.

[shy tulip]

As one of the mods for the forums, yes I have to look at that

Idk, HD2 forums are something else entirely, for good and worse

I don't think our forums are that active to warrant that, on Discord yeah, but not really steam

[hollow citrus]

but again im not saying they must do that, just if there is one side posting news about the game (which i do like) and other talking constant complains and negativity its not gonna be sweet, simply putting out the word for community that like guys we are also humans let us cook we promise to not fuck up again would be already good.

[shy tulip]

Hell I actually was hanging out on the HD2 forums for like 2 months and it was a cycle of "Why nerf the guns > Fire this community manager > game bad > why nerf the guns"

[late isle]

Or they could get their shit together and not make empty promises all the damn time

[prime wing]

but saying nothing has been efficient in the past.

Not having deadlines on yourself

[hollow citrus]

It's always like that with some people true, but those questions being answered. I still have no idea why suspect audio detection is bugged

[muted star]

Imo nah. You just get different people hatin

[fossil palm]

Would anyone know why my default loadout isn't saving in multiplayer

[astral warren]

Multiplayer is broken af.

[thorny idol]

timeline for the UE5 update?

[fossil palm]

i can tell

[viral bone]

I'd like to know this as well

I mean switch to UE 5 is a great feat and great news

I'm not really that interested in DLC as much as I'm interested in this new update

[prime wing]

Theres 0 info about future dlc or updates release date

But

I would expect some form of summer release

A month give or take

[viral bone]

Hmm probably

[prime wing]

As a reasonable delay

[viral bone]

It's been too long since last hotfix

not update, but hotfix

[prime wing]

With a whole new engine i imagine there will be more hotfixes too

[viral bone]

Well, I wish they'd start with a nice patch

last update February

[prime wing]

Yeah but why. They are moving to ue5

[native rune]

It used to be the old hotel map pre 1.0. Now it’s The Spider, daytime, mostly interior, good amount of suspects. Just enough map to take seriously but not too big requiring laps around the place.

[timber mesa]

we’re already in UE5.3, it was surprisingly very smooth

I’ve watched games transition between UE4 versions with more difficulties

but again there was a year of groundwork being done by our partners before the final step of the UE5 transition was made

it’s not a transition without issues but they were manageable so far

you bet!

Our engineers did a fabulous job too in doing that final transition

[amber dock]

Nice to hear

[wintry herald]

why do the some off the graphics settings reset when i set them!!! ???? its so annoying

[humble fog]

Is the game that I'm playing currently in UE5? Or are you referring to the version that the developer are using?

[urban walrus]

It's the dev build that is already in UE5, that's why UE5 integration is in this week newsletter,

[marble dome]

you know what would be cool? a system for being downed but not out, like say you get shot to mnay times you dont die right away, you get downed and you car draw your secondary only and your teamate can drag you out of harms way and you can get revived but only to half health

[round arch]

I've been on for ages trying to figure out how to complete this mission 😢

[shy tulip]

That's kinda just COD with extra steps, if you get knocked on your ass like that, idk how you're getting back up

[icy wraith]

yeah. it's impossible. get shot, get rekt

[marble dome]

ok then just get dragged by a teammate out of the way

[icy wraith]

damn, a shot on the arm will take you out, a shot to the leg will doubly take you out and you may die by bleeding

[marble dome]

true but i thouught id throw in my 2 cents

[icy wraith]

all that said, i wouldn't mind an arcade mode for RoN

could be fun, why not?

as long as it's an own mode, u know?

[marble dome]

maybe have a TQ animation from a teammate when hes down instead of bagging hes rifle put a TQ on him

[round arch]

Can anyone help me. I have spawned outside the Chief of police office what do I do?

[shy tulip]

You can just walk back to mission select, that's an area you just unlocked

[round arch]

O Ty

[obtuse abyss]

is there a way to take down s-vest with non-lethal?

[urban walrus]

S-vest only surrender when you are not close to them, so shoot less lethal and shout while keeping a distance between you and the suspect.

[shy tulip]

Makes sense if you ask me imo

But it certainly makes them unique compared to everyone else

[obtuse abyss]

thank you

[solid sail]

i need to find the meth storage on twisted nerve, Iwas wondering if ya'll knew where it was (i think thats what the mission is called its the third one on the list with the cave)

any information at all would be appreciated

[amber dock]

Second floor of the main house (the one not being fumegated)

it's in the bathroom of the room across the hall from the one with the incapacitated child in it.

[mental fable]

Hey guys, DLC 1 is only for SE people correct ?

[amber dock]

SE people get it for free

[solid sail]

Holy crap thank you so much ive been trying to get this mission done for days

[amber dock]

standard edition owners can buy it though

[amber dock]

No problem

[mental fable]

Oh, nvm that

Thanks

[stone bay]

any tips for the spdier

[amber dock]

I'd recommend making sure the outside around the building is clear first

[solid sail]

Use the npcs

[amber dock]

If you have wedges, wedge any point to the outside that you aren't going to be entering from

this will prevent the enemies from leaving the building/flanking.

[winter lake]

Are their any further details on the bounties? I see there's 3 applications listed in the briefing, which one takes the highest priority?

[stone bay]

OOPS I LSOT AN OFFICER

NOOOO 😭

[winter lake]

And are their specific issues that should be prioritized over others that would benefit RON? I asked b/c for instance, there's a bug opened for UAssetGUI that seems to pertain to Jedi Survivor

[stone bay]

DUDE I LOST ANOTHER ONE

i completed it

god damn 😭

[prime wing]

Void listed bounties on their newsletter

Regarding modding

[winter lake]

Yes... I'm asking which issues on each tool should be priortized....

[prime wing]

Idk

[pearl shuttle]

Wonder what else they've outsourced to modders

[winter lake]

There's three tools, UE4SS, UAssetAPI, and UAssetGUI

[pearl shuttle]

Seems like most of the game was programmed by Nexus modders

[winter lake]

UE4SS has ~100 open defects

[stone bay]

whats a good entry point for dies of march

[frail quartz]

The entry points are broken atm, you spawn at the fire exit regardless of which you choose

[stone bay]

but which do u reccomend

[frail quartz]

I mean, I personally think the fire exit is better either way because you have a door between you and the hallway rather than the residental staircase where there's a large area that might leave you exposed

[stone bay]

alr thanks

FUCK

I DIDNT SEE THE BOMB AND KIL MY WHOLE SQUAD

MAN

[noble anchor]

does the sniper or not mod work? it do3esnt seemt to be working

[umbral oar]

another broken promise… switching to ue5 😔

[stone bay]

RoN switching to ue5??

it's easy they just need to upgrade and rework some broken stuff a long the way

[umbral oar]

appears to be

[stone bay]

nice

if they choosed unreal engine 5.4 then we are getting a better peforamnce

[winter lake]

Its 5.3

[feral parcel]

I’m just scared it won’t be well optimized

[stone bay]

bruh

[stone bay]

5.3 is dogshit

[umbral oar]

they are switching to reduce the stuttering

[winter lake]

I think they started on way back

[feral parcel]

Why would you switch to that?

[winter lake]

before 5.4 was released

[stone bay]

lighting and some features

[stone bay]

well they are unlucky

[prime wing]

yeah its been a year apparently since the beginning

so 5.4 was not out

[stone bay]

a whole year holy shit

[feral parcel]

At the cost of performance? Not a super worth it trade.

[prime wing]

Not a year, not sure, but its been a while

a few months for sure

[umbral oar]

i would take it ngl

[prime wing]

they go over it in the letter

[umbral oar]

if it means a smoother experience

[stone bay]

well we stick with 5.3 but peformance wouldn't be as good as unreal engine 4.27 that RoN uses right now

[feral parcel]

I don’t have a good pc.

Gonna suck trying to play

[winter lake]

You're telling me 5.3 is worse than 4.27?

[stone bay]

yes

[winter lake]

How

[stone bay]

peforamnce wise

[feral parcel]

Yeah I might not be able to play the game anymore soon

[stone bay]

we will see what they do

they might make it run faster you never know

here is lighting difference between 4.27 and 5.3 #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[feral parcel]

If not I can always uninstall the game or upgrade.

[stone bay]

you can just use geforce now

[feral parcel]

I haven’t heard the best things about them

Also my internet isn’t very good

[feral parcel]

It looks more bleached out. I kinda prefer the Unreal 4 engine

[stone bay]

it depends the game can stay look the same with few changes to lighting

[feral parcel]

Is it really worth the cut to performance?

[stone bay]

i dont think peformance will be bad in next update

i trust void interactive and i hope they achive the best look and feel of ready or not without affecting peformance

[mental fable]

I hope it won't be expensive

[old trench]

Would anyone be able to help me with a tutorial on how to use the replay function effectively so I can make a cinematic video?

[stone bay]

u gave me a video idea

thanks

[old trench]

You’re welcome? What like a YouTube tutorial cause that would help a ton

[stone bay]

maybe, idk

[old trench]

I took photography back in highschool so I know how to use camera angles. It’s just the bells and whistles and also if I need to export the replay and edit it that way

[stone bay]

k

i think u can access replays through the home screen

in settings i think

[copper cypress]

How much stress can a suppressor reduce on a suspect? From ?? to ??

[jolly verge]

It reduces stress by 50% (from 0.1 to 0.05 per gunshot)

[copper cypress]

What is the maximum stress level of a suspect?

Reducing 0.1 to 0.05 doesn't seem to make a lot of difference😅

[jolly verge]

well it's 5 against 3 shots to make suspects get alerted

on some maps

[jolly verge]

The maximum possible? I think around 524288 from my tests, but it's does not really affect anything

[copper cypress]

All I have is the feeling that a suspect would go crazy if he saw someone being killed or arrested😂

lol

[jolly verge]

if they see dead body they will get stress and lose some morale

not sure about arrested

[copper cypress]

But they would shoot at will to restore morale.

[jolly verge]

yeap, they also gain morale when sees their alive buddy

and suspects on lethal obsession can regain morale by yelling at you

so it's hard to make them surrender

[copper cypress]

incapacitated= alive buddy?

[jolly verge]

nope - killed

[copper cypress]

Oh

[waxen grove]

Delay , I FUCKING CALLED IT.

Oh

Ah yes more bugs thanks to engine upgrade.

[ivory quarry]

is the game fixed yet, havent played since October

[waxen grove]

Nope more delays and an engine upgrade that’s gonna breaks the game even further

Check in again in about 6 months

[ivory quarry]

thats what i said 2 decembers ago

[waxen grove]

Fuck I might just uninstall at this fucking point

[ivory quarry]

i got banned off steam forums for voicing my opinion on the state of the game

[waxen grove]

We want bug fixes not a new fucking engine

Wow your not banned here yet

Well it released 6 months ago and had some improvements but preformance too a dive into the shitter

Since then we have had no updates

Promises of dlc 1

And now they are moving to ue5 breaking all mods, asking the community to make tools for the modding community and saying soon™️ on updates

Only thing keeping me here is the sunk cost fallacy

I bought this game so I wanna get my money out of it

Its a good game at its base

Void suffer feature creap up the warzoo while delivering fuck all

[amber dock]

Are these promises here in the room with us?

[waxen grove]

Yeah, void been dangling DLC 1 for months like a god dam carrot on a stick.

I only care for bug fixes at this stage

This setback means nether

We will be able to provide more info in the coming weeks with the next newsletter as progress on the situation is made
“Coming weeks in the next newsletter”
Don’t you mean next month cause the biweekly newsletter is more like a monthly newsletter…

Do we know how much a dlc pack is gonna be?

[versed trail]

This transition to ue5 better have no bugs.

[waxen grove]

We all know that’s gonna be a lie

It’s said in the newsletter dlc1 is built on ue4

[versed trail]

But yeah, we need bug fixes first!

[waxen grove]

We are gonna gain so many bugs, the preformance is gonna be roll d20. Ue5 can make ue4 games run better but if not properly optimised (with Ron already isn’t on ue4) it can make preformance worse

It feels like void is now prioritising the ooh shiney aspect of this game with saying it’s a ue 5 game

[old trench]

I mean that part I got, it’s the manipulating the camera and getting certain shots with different focusing and such

[waxen grove]

Maybe attempting a relaunch in ue5 after the shit show of a 1.0 launch

[versed trail]

Yeah it will probably look like this. Void better come with a clutch

[prime wing]

theres probably more to it than voicing your opinion

[waxen grove]

Everyone called me crazy when I said dlc 1 was gonna get delayed yet I fucking called it. Void has dug a massive hole because of the lack of transparency.

[amber dock]

Always

[fringe siren]

'Spring Release' lol

Should've just said UE5 by Summer, DLC1 after that instead of this surprise

[waxen grove]

Yes

Ue5 isnr something that was just annoucned today it was in the works much much eailer so it really should of been on the roadmap

[frail quartz]

They said in the devlog that they won't be able to utilize any of the big features, it's mainly just to make development easier

[waxen grove]

Ah yes make it easier by reinventing the god dam wheel. It’s not a copy paste from ue4 to ue5. Things would be deprecated and many devs will have to relearn how to walk

Ue5 is the “in” thing atm, no reason other then that they are moving to ue5

[frail quartz]

If the transition to the new engine wasn't going smoothly then I don't really see why they would say it is

[waxen grove]

Um

Dlc 1 is still in ue4 by the sound of it

It’s been done by another team

[frail quartz]

No, the main reason they decided to switch to UE5 now is so that they can continue working on the DLC without having to worry about transferring the work they've already done

They probably described it better than me

[waxen grove]

They could if they chose to

[frail quartz]

I looked at the devlog again and it said "It was important for efficiency and engine benefits that we complete the engine transition before adding new content to the game"

[waxen grove]

yeah so we are waiting on ue5 port for dlc 1 to get ported over

intergation hell is gonna happen

all the bugs in the world

the devs are gonna wish they never did the transition soon

and if we dont get more frequent updates after ue 5 . . . i call bs

[stone bay]

void said it was a smooth process and they are already working within 5.3

[thorny warren]

imagine the vacuum on the second map has an IED in it

there is a reason why you can destroy it

[wanton ivy]

they dont care about their game, fair and simple

[versed trail]

lmao true

[wanton ivy]

they just leave it behind as always

isnt even worth spending y'all time on this shit game taking a whole ass fucking year to update

and if i want to i'll complain about this game for the rest of my life

[fossil palm]

Would anyone know why my default loadout isn't saving. every time I click the default preset it just overwrites my current config

[peak ginkgo]

did you save the loadout that you made

[jolly verge]

You can't save anything in default loadout, it's permanent in case you need reset loadout from modded weapons and etc.

save loadout with any other name

[fossil palm]

then when I head into multiplayer with other people, it clears the loadout I have.
when I head into multiplayer by myself its fine.

[broken hollow]

Is the move to UE5 going to bring some lighting/shadow improvements with lumen or Ray Tracing? I feel the lighting in this game is very inaccurate and makes it look very gamey. No shadows under objects, and corners/edges with no light reaching it are often lit when they shouldn't be, and other issues. This game could be the poster child for Ray tracing as indoor games often look the best as there is often plenty of light sources and reflections and shadows.

[tacit gull]

The devs didnt mention anything about Lumen, however ray tracing might still happen some time in the future since they did have a promotion with nvidia back in the day

[stone bay]

hello everyone how is your day so far?

[serene sierra]

where do u delete mods? whenever i load the game i fall under the map and in a forever loop of doing so

[stone bay]

lumen will kill the peformance also lumen is so bad maybe Path Tracing and some shadow improvement can happen

[stone bay]

go to mods and click your account logo in mod .io that is in the game

[serene sierra]

thank you

[stone bay]

np

have fun (:

[serene sierra]

still not working i have no idea

my game is destroyed man

i deleted everything so no idea

[stone bay]

you should restart

[serene sierra]

ive tried many times even deleting and re downloading

[stone bay]

the whole game?

[serene sierra]

yep

im gonna verifyt the file see if that works

[stone bay]

ok do it and if it doesnt work you need to delete the game and find it in files and delete again

because games when you delete them they leave some files in the device

[serene sierra]

idek what it is because i remember downloading a jewelry store map

which i think is what its stuck on

[stone bay]

i suggest checking %appdata%

press windows + R and type %appdata%

[serene sierra]

working now @stone bay appreicate ur help

[stone bay]

❤️

[warm falcon]

Why can't RON detect my mouse macros?

[glass tide]

Does mod id french voice 1 1 working?

[stone bay]

What would cause a friendly fire penalty with a score of zero?

[upbeat heath]

tutorial how to detect a faked death
as you know when you shoot a suspect in the ehad with a shotgun their arms and legs go a little stiff and they fall in a weird pose
if someone fakes a death they will (almost always) have that same ragdoll effect

[native rune]

It’s pretty simple actually. Suspects that are actually dead will have a pool of blood form under them always. Suspects that are incapacitated will not, and suspects that are faking it will not. Suspects faking death will always have the dead icon over them instead of the incap one, and swat ai teammates will tend to yell at them to surrender instead of cuffing them

[lost inlet]

regardless, just cuff the body

[native rune]

That too, with most of the mechanics, if you’re being thorough you’re unlikely to fall victim to any pitfalls the game offers.

[stone bay]

I haven't played the game, how does the hostile a.i. work against the player?

[lost inlet]

they spot you, they yell at you, then they go full auto on you if their gun can do that while spamming the A and D key

[stone bay]

do they ever like try and hunt the player down or work with other hostiles to hold a position?

[lost inlet]

both

[stone bay]

they can push, flank, charge, etc.

its not really "AI" though its mainly scripted to happen on a timer

is the timer reliant on anything or is it static every playthrough?

[civic zinc]

It varies I believe

[copper cypress]

How is the chance of a suspect faking his death calculated?

Will a suppressor affect a suspect's chance of faking his own death? For example, would a louder noise stun the suspect and cause him to fake his death?

[umbral oar]

hundred percent chance when c2 used

[copper cypress]

I'm sure it's possible for me to get knocked unconscious from loud gunfire IRL, but not sure if that applies to the game.

[frail quartz]

WYM timer?

[stone bay]

they happen every x-y seconds

x min cooldown y max cooldown

[frail quartz]

By 'they' do we mean like, the actions they take?

[stone bay]

just push, flank, charge

SuspectGlobalPushCooldown = (x=90.0,Y=180.0) ; How long to cooldown all push combat moves when initiated
SuspectGlobalFlankCooldown = (x=60.0,Y=120.0) ; How long to cooldown all flank combat moves when initiated

[ruby umbra]

So if I understand correctly, the DLC is basically just the ability to host the new maps?

[stone bay]

the DLC is a content release which includes new maps & guns and hopefully fixes

on top of that they are switching to a new engine (version) to help with development

[frail quartz]

it says they'll also be adding a "Free general game update launching parallel to the paid Home Invasion DLC, bringing forward some planned Quality of Life improvements and features" and 3 new weapons regardless of if you own the DLC or not

[civic zinc]

That's actually a cool thought, with the SA-58 specifically, I feel like they could make a mechanic out of it's concussive force when used in small rooms

What if in twisted nerve it had similar, but lesser effects to a flashbang when fired unsilenced

[stone bay]

it would be cool as a very minor stun effect

[civic zinc]

It should depend on the area and the light level

The smaller and darker, the more intense

[stone bay]

realistically the muzzle flash would not really do much

[civic zinc]

Fair

[stone bay]

but the sound from a 7.62 yeah i can see that

[civic zinc]

And the pressure

[stone bay]

yeah

[civic zinc]

Let's not forget it's a short barrel in a game where most engagements are within 10 metres

I think the first time I thought about this was playing the old hotel mission in early access

[copper cypress]

Yesterday, I used a .300 assault rifle to shoot the suspect twice in a close firefight at the elephant level to make him surrender lol

Not silenced

[civic zinc]

I like the newer hotel but it just doesn't scratch the itch of clearing a large complex building, in fact nothing in the game really does

[civic zinc]

The .300 blackout round is considerably less extreme than .308 because of the length and amount of powder

[ruby umbra]

yeah so the premium part is just the maps

[frail quartz]

Indeed

[halcyon crystal]

nah tell me why the supporters only get 1 dlc for free, is that one dlc worth 80$? i cant believe i put money into this fucking Ponzi scheme

[ruby umbra]

but you can play them in multiplayer if the host has it so essentially there is nothing fully locked out

[halcyon crystal]

waste of 120 dollars

[ruby umbra]

its not only 1 dlc

[civic zinc]

The 7.62x51 NATO is a cartridge that is best suited for long distance engagements against opponents with strong body armour, using it in cqb as a swat team is utterly overkill and I love it to death in this game because of that.

.300 blackout is a subsonic round that has more in common with 5.56x45 and is best used for suppressed rifles since it makes less noise when travelling through the air.

[halcyon crystal]

thats what they said, supporters the the first dlc free brodie

[ruby umbra]

i thought it was all dlc

[halcyon crystal]

we got scammed

[frail quartz]

The supporter's edition was, as the name implies, meant to support the developers. The free DLCs are the devs showing their gratitude, it wasn't meant to save you money in the longrun

[civic zinc]

Theres also the more frequent updates during early access and exclusive items

[stone bay]

supporter edition also gave you access to updates prior to public release

[halcyon crystal]

there false promised with the supporter edition, said that we'd get early access to new features, that only happened once, like or not they were selling a product in the shape of a "donation"

[civic zinc]

The supporter branch was being constantly updated to my knowledge

Meanwhile as a person who only owns the base game it was the same version from February to December of last year

[halcyon crystal]

like hell it is, ive been following this game for countless of years and the supporter branch only got one update, ONCE

and it was sum shit

[civic zinc]

Updates stopped being released early to supporters upon the 1.0 release

[shy tulip]

The test branch didn't get the final 1.0 build, but saying it got one update for years is just straight up false

[halcyon crystal]

they only did one update before 1.0, the adam updated that took months

[civic zinc]

Uh huh

Sure

[halcyon crystal]

WHERE ARE THESE SO CALLED UPDATES???

if u look in patchnotes, its all releases, if u look in dev updates, we havent seen anything in years

[civic zinc]

You said you followed the game

Not played it

The Adam update was the most substantial update but it wasn't the only one

Not by a fucking long shot

As far as I'm aware the game received a lot of minor updates during the course of early access, usually 1 map at a time and then a handful of fixes

[halcyon crystal]

all there is, is hotfixes, all free for the public, what are u talking about ur literally avoiding my questions

none of these things were for supporter only

[prime wing]

they did several SE early access betas

[halcyon crystal]

im not talking about updates, im talking about features for supporter only, we got scammed

[halcyon crystal]

WHERE

[prime wing]

Well you missed them

lmao

before they were common

before adam

before summer 2022

1.0 didnt have one

[civic zinc]

Supporters got access to test versions of pretty much every map that was added before they were done

Dev textured prototype layouts with placeholder suspects and civvies

[halcyon crystal]

that was once, i was there for, it was only one time

[prime wing]

im sorry but there were a few. If you missed it, idk what to tell you

[halcyon crystal]

wouldnt these updates be ya know, logged at all?

[neat robin]

Tbh if you bought a £60 SUPPORTER edition and expect to get £60 worth of content you’re missing the point

[halcyon crystal]

there is no mention of the editions, not even in the nda discord

[neat robin]

It’s about supporting the devs not buying a damn dlc

[prime wing]

there are ways apparently to play those builds, but theres no point given how bad they were.

[civic zinc]

Would you like me to go through all 74 newsletters and find all the times they gave supporters early access to a feature or map or weapon

[halcyon crystal]

no, i did all that just now, u can ctrl + f and search supporter and there's only one instance

[civic zinc]

Also the supporters getting exclusive content now would be rather unfair to non-supporters since it's not even available for purchase

[neat robin]

And even then you all seem to be missing the point of a supporter edition

[prime wing]

yeah got taken down in december

[neat robin]

It’s a donation with extra perks

You’re supporting the continued development of the game and get a couple cool cosmetics as a reward

[civic zinc]

Personally I wish I had purchased the supporter edition before release

[neat robin]

Me too

[civic zinc]

A large amount of the customization seems locked off for no reason, and the weapons looked nice

[neat robin]

But also i don’t trust void with money anymore so in hindsight i probably did well not to

[civic zinc]

And I don't feel like finding a dlc unlocker out there

[prime wing]

the gun models look laughably bad compared to some mods

[mild heart]

are there any plans to add ai to co-op me and my friend keep getting dusted on missions because just the two of us and we dont typically play with other people as we dont trust other people to play with

[neat robin]

ong

[civic zinc]

They said it was "on the table"

No plans currently though

[neat robin]

Ballistic single-handedly keeps this game alive i swear

[quasi forum]

someone gift me RoN pls, im not rich

[prime wing]

theres a mod for it

[neat robin]

No

[civic zinc]

I don't use gunfighter myself, I don't like the viewmodel change and I don't understand why it completely annihilates any sense of consideration of inventory slots

[mild heart]

i tired to mod the game and just instantly keep crashing my game

[neat robin]

Ballistic didn’t make gunfighter bruh

[civic zinc]

I thought you were on about that mod

[neat robin]

No

[civic zinc]

Well I was wrong

[neat robin]

Is oki

[civic zinc]

The only weapon mod I find myself using is sniper or not

The one which lets you use all the weapons rattling around in the files

[neat robin]

Because it adds content that SHOULD be available

Like the P99

Fully animated, 100% functional, but inexplicably disabled

[civic zinc]

I wonder if any of the old maps still exist in the files but remain unused

[neat robin]

I hope so

I want old port and hotel back

[civic zinc]

Same

Mostly hotel for me, I don't understand why they always had the top and bottom parts of the map separated into different gamemodes

It would have been cool to clear the entire hotel

[wraith basin]

Fast food for me because of the music.

[civic zinc]

A bit like how hospital had separate areas opened and closed off but barricaded suspects always had the entire map

[civic zinc]

Theres a mod to add it back

It even has textures

[amber dock]

^

[civic zinc]

their audio is still in the game files but im not sure if a playable version of either exists

[amber dock]

Ik old hotel had a playable mod, I don't know if it's still up

[neat robin]

I am sad

[prime wing]

pretty certain hotel was never updated by reap

it seemed like too much work

[neat robin]

But porting to UE5 isn’t??

[frail quartz]

I thought it was just because they weren't satisfied with the Hotel's level design

[neat robin]

This is the thing with void, they just add superfluous shit but are too lazy to develop the actually vital content

[frail quartz]

That's the entire reason it was replaced with sins of the father, wasn't it?

[night pasture]

Story and that yea

I mean replaying it with reaps mod was like man it was more mid then I remember

[neat robin]

I’m just kinda done with this studio

[frail quartz]

I remember the map being pretty barren too

[neat robin]

I’m fed up with the game being driven into the damn ground by shitty decisions

[civic zinc]

what was it called

[amber dock]

I think it was called "Hotel Raid Restoration"

from what I remember

[civic zinc]

that restored a gamemode before early access ended

[night pasture]

It got delisted it’s so joeover

[civic zinc]

i believe it was delisted because the mod didnt work after 1.0 removed gamemodes

[prime wing]

yeah its not gonna work

[amber dock]

It was its own map

The reason why it was delisted was likely since the assets were removed since hotel was removed.

[prime wing]

verify game files

[frail quartz]

Those ARE the game files

They aren't mods

[neat robin]

Man deleted 25gb of core game files

[prime wing]

i need a pin for this

theres a whole guide on tech support

[amber dock]

Nah

[prime wing]

Yes

(no)

[neat robin]

REINSTALL

Omfg

[frail quartz]

Open the properties menu from the game in the steam library, go to the "installed files" tab, and click "verify integrity of game files"

It should

[neat robin]

Yes

[amber dock]

Yes

[neat robin]

It’ll redownload the missing files

[frail quartz]

No.

[neat robin]

This is the second time today I’ve seen someone ask for support after deleting vital game files

[prime wing]

where is the gif for it

there was one

[neat robin]

And i only woke back up a few hours ago

Yeah

So it’ll redownload them

The magic of the internet

[stable plover]

is there a way to block people?

[frail quartz]

In discord or ingame?

[stable plover]

in game

[neat robin]

Irl

[frail quartz]

9x19mm

[neat robin]

How do i block people irl

Thanks

[stable plover]

how do i block them in game though

[stone bay]

7.62x51

[frail quartz]

A bit overkill but that works too

[glad fox]

Easy you jump up to block the ball dummi

[neat robin]

.950 JDJ

[neat robin]

No idea

[stable plover]

i hate the guy that just sits in a corner preaching and doesnt go into a game

i only get into his lobbies its so annoying

[stone bay]

No longer produced.

[native rune]

20 inch

[jolly light]

I finally beat the spider

[hexed leaf]

what did the spider do to deserve a beating? :c

[hexed mulch]

What is the best pistol and rifle?

Quick

[hexed leaf]

I like the USP45 and the SR16 personally

[sharp geyser]

MK18 is the best general use gun, SA-58 or the MP-7 if you really want someone dead

[stone bay]

they are all very similar

[sharp geyser]

yeah most 5.56 rifles play the same except the SR-16 because of the barrel length

[stone bay]

iirc vanilla sr16 has the same recoil values as the rest

[sharp geyser]

oh I mean it's harder to use indoors because of it's size

[stone bay]

oh yeah lol

[hexed leaf]

It's okay, I just shoot holes in the walls so I can still use it indoors effectively.

[vague pagoda]

Some mods are host side and some are client side. Client side are things like guns and appearance mods. Host side are like in game menu which allows the host to run 5+ man lobbies or ai mods

Np

[azure falcon]

I am having issues with the game crashing. As soon as I load into the game I would head into loadouts and when I try to edit them my game crashes. Can anyone help ??

[river tide]

just found out you can shoot the minor in twisted nerve if you aim with the shield on

didnt test it but it would probably work on the girl in the first mission too

[shy tulip]

Are you proud of yourself

[river tide]

why would i be proud of myself

[lilac warren]

So I've beat all the missions for RON, what else is there to do? Are there other dlc's?

[river tide]

multiplayer

[shy tulip]

Some RoN players would be

[river tide]

im just proud i made a discovery / bug discovery, not the fact i can shoot a minor

[shy tulip]

You can get into modding, specifically maps and gameplay overhauls, DLC 1 is delayed atm

[lilac warren]

Ohhh okay

Thanks guys. What would you recommend mod-wise?

[river tide]

gunfighters

[shy tulip]

I don't touch mods, so dunno what the kids call cool anymore

[stone bay]

It doesn't. I just tried.

[left onyx]

when are we getting usable rpg

[river tide]

weird because it worked for me

oh the first mission

well it works on the minor in the meth house though

[pastel wind]

I got a question

Would new weapons be added for free?

Non dlc weapons

[humble mauve]

yes the weapons are free

[pastel wind]

The dlc weapons???

[humble mauve]

the only DLC content will be the maps and outfits that come with them

the weapons are just part of the update really

[pastel wind]

Oh so the new weapons coming are free?

[humble mauve]

ye

[pastel wind]

Oh great heavens

What about the 4th weapon?

There’s lien another option?

[humble mauve]

The way it sounds it's an option or something so probably the same if I had to guess

[pastel wind]

Probably like a reskin of the hk416

Or lvar

Since both are tan they would offer an option for black???

[stone bay]

one of them is pretty damn cool

[crude prism]

4th weapon is gonna be the fixing of the MCX to 556 kekw

[rare grail]

Haven't played in a while, is the game running on ue5 currently? Or is in the works?

[amber dock]

Base game isn't UE5 yet

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽🤨 we must compete with gta siccs

[hushed smelt]

Ngl I’m not even mad even more of the delays it’s just expected been dealing with them since 2021 when i bought supporter edition😭

[pine bough]

UE5 build is gonna be lit asf.

[stone bay]

is there any version or mod to be able to play some old RoN maps? I remember a very specific one which isnt in 1.0

[fleet talon]

Which one

If it's the vineyard I don't think so

[stone bay]

it

I can't remember exactly but it had wood doors, massive map, people with AR's outside mainly and 2 stories

I think

[distant tiger]

I think could be awesome to have the HRT or FBI SWAT outfits in the vanilla game

[glass helm]

what gun can hold the most ammo

[stone stump]

they're already there smh

[distant tiger]

What does it mean "smh", "some how"?

And yeah, but i've read that they were replaced or something like that, i don't remember well

[fallen sparrow]

"Shaking my head"

[distant tiger]

Thanks :)

[lost inlet]

p90

[glass helm]

alr thanks

[fossil palm]

who else thinks the game should be more polished before the dlcs come out?

[frail quartz]

They said they're launching a bugfix/QOL update parallel to the DLC

[fossil palm]

true

[stone bay]

It's not like this guy's comment messages are friendly to user feedback
#934498235286974565 message

[stone stump]

mfs thinking more difficult (unfair) ai is better are absolutely crazy

[granite trout]

Delete the game to fix every issue

[pliant musk]

i guess this is a general gaming question but why do my fps drop even tho my cpu and gpu utilization is not near its full capacity?

[civic zinc]

i figured out how to install older versions of the game
should i download the gratr build

[stone stump]

if you didn't cap your fps (or have vsync enabled) i have some bad news for you...

it's called cpu bottleneck

[stone bay]

hey currently doing Post office on S-Tier, got all the things done. But fucking cant find the last gun or knife or w/e. But AI bugged out so trailer cant search

wtf do I do

[hidden ibex]

Search every nook and cranny as usual

Pain but works

[stone bay]

ffs

there aint a way to have AI not be bugged ?

[hidden ibex]

Wdym that it’s bugged

[stone bay]

the ai sometimes wont start searching

[hidden ibex]

Prob try to go through all commands then back to search they do that w me a lot js really annoying

[stone bay]

im a fucking idiot I forgot the 2nd soft objective

[hidden ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/idiot-stupid-gif-19958237

[pliant musk]

so it only uses some of the cores? the cpu isnt being used a lot either really. and no i have vsync but it never gets up to 60 fps

[stone bay]

close the apps in background and lower the settings

i play on low my pc is gtx 1060ti , i play on 1080p low settings and i get around 70 to 120 fps

but loading time takes around 4 minutes

[pliant musk]

i have a 4070 and play on medium (first it was high) but it doesnt help much

[jolly verge]

pc specs?

and what directx you playing on?

[stone bay]

yeah you need to wait for unreal engine 5 update

[copper cypress]

Is it a bug that SWAT Ai and I are still injured after being hit by a flash grenade while wearing goggles?

[jolly verge]

nope, goggles protects against screen flash, not from damage and speed penalty

[copper cypress]

So it's possible that I could be killed by a flashbang!?

[jolly verge]

not really, flashbang deal only 0.05 damage

[copper cypress]

lol

[stone bay]

there is always that chance...

[amber dock]

Stingers can definitely kill

I had it kill Brixley once

Flash bangs would be hard to kill someone with though

[stone bay]

Can Team effects scale?

so If I have lets say 4 Breachers, does it scale?

[jolly verge]

yeap, but not all traits stack

[stone bay]

i mean like the doorkicking thing make sense

do we know the numbers to which they scale?

[jolly verge]

there was steam guide with all values, but im not sure if it's updated

do you need to know specific trait values?

for breacher it's 25/50/65/75%

[copper cypress]

I don't recommend breaking in often. This may lead to increased stress on the suspect lol

Reasons people often cause suspects to become John Wick:

1. Let them see someone get arrested/die
2. Too many unnecessary door kicks/C2

[pliant musk]

direct x 12, Ryzen 9 5900X, rtx 4070

[hollow dove]

soooo are they gonna ban the guy who plays his church sermons all day and never plays the game or is that like okay because on one hand i dont think it breaks a specific rule but also its annoying as shit and prevents people from joining actual lobbies

oh wait now hes doing hate speech so now it does break rules

[pastel wind]

Let bro play his church music

Hallelujah!

[pastel wind]

Aw shoot!

[simple galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-skinwalker-dougy-doug-gif-16854398839794515932

[pliant musk]

What? It is not that bad?

[stone bay]

Do I still get achievements even tho I have a mod that changes movement?

[amber dock]

Yes, the only thing preventing achievements is playing in a multiplayer lobby

[stone bay]

cool

[stone bay]

what about getting an ironman run?

[amber dock]

Ironman is single player only

[stone bay]

yea but what about hte ironman achievement

do I still get that, even though my game is modded?

[shy tulip]

Yes

You will however forever live with the shame that you didn't do it vanilla

[stone bay]

I mean I can live with the shame that I walk 30 percent faster.

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-got-shame-nun-gif-4969023

[narrow helm]

why can i not S complete 23 megabytes? i arrested every suspect with non-lethal weapons, had no minuses, nobody dies, and i found all evidence/objectives? i was 30 points off somehow

does the time i did it in count less towards my score? it took me a bit to find the photos

[twin python]

time doesn't count

[narrow helm]

its whack i got everything for the 2nd time in a row and i got A+ both times (granted first time i got -50 because somehow i injured a civ)

[shy tulip]

Are you leaving by pressing Y or autoleaving

[narrow helm]

autoleft

[shy tulip]

Take a picture of the end scores next time

[narrow helm]

everything was done but i was 30 points off

idek how u get 30 points off lmfao

[shy tulip]

Do the arrest math

X suspects * 35 = S

Same for civs

[narrow helm]

if i missed a suspect would i still have autoleft? that would be good to know for other missions if you know

[shy tulip]

It wouldn't have

But incapping is not the same as arresting

[narrow helm]

okay

[shy tulip]

Incap/kill * 5 = No S

[narrow helm]

is incapping possible with pepperball weapons?

[shy tulip]

Theoretically

You could kill with it if you like mag dumped everythiung into a suspect in the past

[narrow helm]

okay maybe that happened then

i appreciate your help

[stone stump]

iirc they slightly reduce the stress suspects gain

[frail quartz]

I mostly use it so that I can distinguish my teammate's gunshots from those of the suspects

[stone stump]

which basically means that from pure gameplay perspective (or min-maxing) suppressors make no sense, unless it's the only way to make gun have less recoil

wdym by "accurate"?

it doesn't

no, it says that there

it's just that these tooltips are a bunch of misinformation

and because ron is ron, they haven't fixed that despite it becoming a well known issue like 2 years ago

that's a nice joke right here

about the mod, that's usually what happens when you have no real responsibility over anything. you do what you want to do and you usually don't need to worry about legality, maintainability or quality

(but tbf void doesn't really do that either)

[knotty blade]

whats the new dlc ppl are talking about?

[sand topaz]

lacking in updates? They just mentioned they ported the entire game to a new engine my dude

they're busy bug-fixing what I'm sure is an absolute disaster of weird errors resulting from porting it and probably won't address anything in the current version - although it would've been helpful of them to mention that months ago

[sand topaz]

i don't disagree - but I think the goal is to improve some of the performance issues they've had and their current UE version doesn't support - i don't think they'll address small things until then in any case

the biggest thing I think that's missing from the game is a kind of difficulty slider system to adjust it - it seems 50% of complaints for the game are about performance and the other 50% are for the AI

enforcing that there's "one correct difficulty" to play the game is kind of boneheaded

i personally love to be abused by the game and seek out mods to make the AI more cheating and unfair, but its also clear that this isn't a commonly shared idea haha

[sour dawn]

ive been away for a while - is this port to UE5 already done? or are they implementing it later

[stone stump]

the definition of "caring" can be a bit different i guess. if i care about something, i don't tend to release it unfinished, broken, untested with barebone features, all while calling it finished and then proceeding to not fix most of that shit to this date (and did i mention amazingly bad community management?)

[stone stump]

performance isn't that big of a problem, but the ignorance around it is

[sand topaz]

I personally had a great time and got my money's worth out of the game even if i never touch it again, but i bought it post-1.0 so missed out on whatever chaos happened before that release. i also don't play multiplayer

[stone stump]

most of the chaos was after the "full release", so you didn't miss anything

and i hope you haven't paid $50 for this game fr

although i have to say ron is one of the rare games where the price in PLN isn't unfair (unrelated to the topic, just a fun fact)

[sand topaz]

i don't remember what i paid to be honest, but i believe I paid the full price - but I got 70 hours out of it and no major issues to speak of. i haven't played in the past couple months as I've got a thesis project to present 🥲

[sand topaz]

typical ~~crossfitter ~~~~vegan ~~polish guy on the internet has to make it known he's polish - i'm just teasing you anyways

[stone stump]

im neither a guy nor i said i was polish

[sand topaz]

touche

anyways my biggest regret about moving to UE5 will be losing out on mods (in the short-term anyways), as once I beat the game on ironman (which took up the bulk of my playtime) then exploring mods is what really gives it some extra replayability - once you know how the levels are laid out it becomes quite a bit easier

[native rune]

Pre 1.0: Fixing bugs now would be pointless because we’re completely changing up the game

Post 1.0: Free update is coming alongside DLC1

Post 1.0 part 2: DLC1 is delayed because we’re completely changing up the game, fixing bugs now would be pointless

[sand topaz]

its true - but they say they will offer a bounty for getting those open-source modding tools functioning on UE5 - whether compensation is reasonable or not compared to time investment and whether it can be easily done is another story

[haughty cove]

As a new player.. what mods are ppl using to stay interested in the game?

[stone stump]

why would do ironman again? the game will be basically the same, just more broken and demanding

[sand topaz]

i don't do ironman with mods again, that was already enough a challenge as-is

[haughty cove]

I can be patient. I have nexus also. Used it a bit for fallout 4

[sand topaz]

as far as ai mods, the https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/797 is really solid one for both easier and harder AI depending on which "version" you choose

[native rune]

Would just be nice if some common sense fixes and polishing weren’t always a complete restructure away, and hopefully that point comes soon

[stone stump]

me when i figure out i was clearly cooking tech debt for the past 5 years and still act surprised

[native rune]

Also, what’s with waiting until the ninth hour to say hey yeah by the way it’s delayed? If you’re doing secret work on switching to UE5 and have been doing so this entire time wouldn’t a delay be obvious?

[sand topaz]

honestly, the most embarrassing part of the game for 1.0 was the autogenerated captions being ... terrible - other than that i didn't have any bugs other than the occasional "the AI won't listen" which is fixed by just telling them to regroup and then give commands again

[sand topaz]

yeah that's definitely an odd move

[native rune]

Said orders bug has been in the game for as long as I’ve had it

[stone stump]

they were sure they would be, until they weren't (probably)

[sand topaz]

probably they thought it would be easy

"it's just updating from UE4 to UE5, how hard could it be"

[stone stump]

i wonder if there's a list of games that ported to ue5 after full release

im like 99% sure no game (excluding extremely niche ones) did

[sand topaz]

well I can't send my message as it was blocked as possible spam, but it was supposed to say "293859 compilation errors" highlighted in red lol

[sand topaz]

i mean UE5 hasn't been out for all that long either in the big scheme, so not all that surprising

but PUBG moved to UE5 iirc

or is moving

[native rune]

Well I’m scared to see what Void’s idea of a “relatively seamless” transition to 5 is gonna look like when it does drop.

[silk junco]

beeeef

[sand topaz]

hahahaha

yeah, i think its optimistic

[stone stump]

just as "throughly tested" as the new swat ai

[native rune]

Precisely

[stone bay]

What advantage does the switch even have over just staying in UE4 at this point? I genuinely want to know.

[haughty cove]

ty

[haughty cove]

ty brother

[hexed granite]

if RON moves to UE5, what kind of mods will be affected so i can brace for impact?

i think i pretty much have: character skins, weapon skins, voice mods, AI mods, maps

[prime wing]

all mods are breaking as soon as the update drops

thats why they are putting more support towards modding and future proofing tools for ue5

[hexed granite]

kinda sad, there was some holdout mods that still worked pre 1.0, new mods created post 1.0, some abandoned.

literally wiping the slate clean is hella rough to hear

[native rune]

Instead of buying the dlc I’ll put the money towards some of my favorite modders if they have a donation platform

[frail quartz]

They go into depth about it in the newsletter

In short, it's to 'future-proof' the game and improve development efficiency. It let's them use some new features to improve load times, reduce stuttering, and let's them use new FSR/DLSS and anti aliasing systems

[hexed granite]

man

[frail quartz]

🐴

[hexed granite]

see u get it

[waxen grove]

we both know that void isnt about to use the new features to optimisise the game because the performance issues with this game is not an engine limitation but a lack of optimisation.

[frail quartz]

I didn't say the engine switch was the solution, just that it'd help

[waxen grove]

the only thing moving to ue 5 does is allow for void to use the buzz word of "Running on the latest Unreal Engine 5"

it kills mods

upps the workload as everything needs to be ported

[frail quartz]

They said in the newsletter that the vast majority of it was carried out by external partners

[waxen grove]

the game is already not optimisaed well so the port is gonna cause a shit ton of errors

not to mention yes its an external studio

Void really did answer the question of "How hard do we want to screw our selfs" with YES

[frail quartz]

The mods needing to be updated is about the only downside I can really think of the switch

[waxen grove]

have you looked at modding RoN before?

Im just wondering if you have seen inside the paks

Void has so many debicrated systems, weapons, maps. Its a mess

An external studio will port everything in fear of one of the depircated features being hard coded into something still in use

if void handled the port internaly they could take the time to rewrite and clean it up but this could cuase so many more bugs

1 line of code is enough to stuff everthting up

im no dev or a seasoned modder but this shit does happen

[stone bay]

to make suspects surrender is it worth using a shitty pistol to the body? (trying to S-Tier)

[mental bronze]

not really

[jolly verge]

Use VKS or Beanbag instead

Csgas, flashbangs and stingers also will make them surrender

[chilly sierra]

is the game now UE 5 or will it come later on

[jolly verge]

later

[icy wraith]

you can prevent the game from updating, and you can revert it back to a previous state.

in my case, i'm intentionally leaving my d: drive bloated to hard prevent it to update. I could move some stuff, and will do it when space is over, but now, i'll just keep around 20gigs free

[stone bay]

How would you go about rolling it back?

[icy wraith]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023295121

[stone stump]

can't you just disable auto updates in game properties?

[icy wraith]

you can select it to 'update when starting' and then cancel the process everytime

i prefer to leave the HD full. It's always full anyway lol

you can also use steam in offline mode, etc. Unfortunately there isn't a straightforward way to keep your own game in the version you want, which is really bad if you ask me

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think the security group's firepower reaches the level of nightclub terrorists?

[bitter remnant]

99% sure bolton security uses mainly SMGs, i've yet to see one with a full rifle if thats what you mean, so I'd say no

[copper cypress]

What if it’s the seventh level?

The one in a bunch of computer rooms.

[bitter remnant]

Oh mindjot?

[copper cypress]

Yep

[bitter remnant]

not sure, havent played that level in a while

[copper cypress]

Alright 😅

[wraith basin]

I remember some of them having assault rifles.

[bitter remnant]

for the Voll house level the best thing I saw from them was MPXs or MP5s

[wraith basin]

Yeah on that they use SMG's.

But on Mindjot they can also have assault rifles.

[bitter remnant]

ah there you go then

[copper cypress]

I'm not sure if the SLR47 is overpowered against mindjot @@

I haven't used MP7 for a long time

[opal holly]

mindjot have bullet proof vest, a submachine gun wont be that effective

[copper cypress]

No. 4.6 and 5.7 AP are able to penetrate their body armor, but the stopping power is terrible.

Hitting their hands or feet would hardly incapacitate them.

[lost inlet]

they only have tier 3 armor, slr47 with jhp can 2 shot them

[grizzled palm]

Does anyone else feel like you should be able to tackle suspects. It just feels odd you can't do much about non compliant suspects

[visual crescent]

saw couple of tackle animation in the past. I think they'll add it in future

[grizzled palm]

I remember it was in multiplayer a long while ago

[visual crescent]

better alternative to melee

[grizzled palm]

No yeah absolutely since melee doesn't stop really determined people that want to die

[tacit gull]

You have the taser and the other less lethals for a reason

[grizzled palm]

last I checked people with bomb vests don't care about less lethals half the time

and I think I checked enough given that I've S ranked the entire game

[tacit gull]

Well you didn't

If your taser didn't work it means it bugged out

Which it does do on any target

The projectile can teleport into the shadow realm when you fire it, nobody has any resistance to the taser or the grenades

[grizzled palm]

yeah IK

except they don't care and will let the stun wear off then go kaboom

[tacit gull]

I think there maybe was a bug that made s vest suspects have 100% morale no matter what when charging

but i'm unsure

[grizzled palm]

I've gone through the entire game non lethal I know what I'm talking about

also it's not unrealistic for swat to tackel a suspect they genuinely do it all the time even to follow up a taser

[tacit gull]

I just don't see tackles being added

Those resisting arrest animations were for the old version of the PVP where the players could arrest eachother

[grizzled palm]

yes IK

[grizzled palm]

^^^^^

[civic zinc]

It would be a cool feature

It would allow players a reliable option to non-lethally subdue a target during normal play

[tacit gull]

I think it would be a lot of work for something that would be hard to balance and gimmicky at best

[civic zinc]

The downside is that the game is not well geared towards melee range altercations

They even all but removed knife suspects from the game

[tacit gull]

If you could just forcefully arrest someone what's the point of using stuff like taser and pepper spray?

The pepper is already worthless anyway

[civic zinc]

It requires getting closer than any other non lethal option

I suppose you can emulate tackling by pressing b

[tacit gull]

Well you'll need to do that to go for an arrest anyway, and suspects can already fake surrender and stab you

Maybe if they could fake being stunned that would work

[civic zinc]

I see why it was removed but I also don't see why it couldn't be reintroduced in one way or another

If they ever added sprinting back to the game tackling would be a good fit

[shy tulip]

Sprinting is never coming back

[tacit gull]

They've been pretty clear on that one

Though i would love if someone modded the old movement back in

[civic zinc]

If the ai was advanced enough to force you to move quickly sprinting would fit better into the game

[tacit gull]

I want EA AI back where they would just bust through doors out of nowhere

[civic zinc]

Currently finding a suspect results in either surrender or shots fired

Having a suspect run off and being able to pursue would be an interesting dynamic

The more ways a suspect can force you to respond, the more tension that exists during a playthrough

[shy tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612550616966889482/1131603190379450438/bye.gif

[tacit gull]

so me

[crude prism]

They still do, but it's more context based, usually only come barging in if you make a lot of noise

[tacit gull]

This is exactly what the game needs, it needs randomness and chaos
Right now the game is RIDICULOUSLY predictable

[crude prism]

If you go in replay after matches, you can see suspects standing directly at doors and "listening"

[tacit gull]

Like even down to where suspects spawn

[muted star]

Dunno, I remember in the old builds you could hold a doorway and just wait for the ai to run in

[crude prism]

The AI should basically never push you after being agro'd but they do it almost all of the time

It's bad fr

But the "barging through" is a specific event as far as I can tell, where they can also break locked/unwedged doors to do it

[muted star]

Some could rush but not all of them

Depends on the setting I guess

[tacit gull]

I'd definetly expect a methead to fucking jumpscare you through a door

[muted star]

Yee

Also bring back knife suspects

[tacit gull]

It would be cool if they could kick in doors and stun you

[muted star]

and fake surrenders

[tacit gull]

Like knife suspect stands right in front of the door, listening and when he hears you checking the lock you just eat shit

That would be awesome

[muted star]

Most of it could be done with tweaking the ai cause the systems are there

Besides the door kicking thing

[tacit gull]

Yeah, i'm really hoping they look into that for the DLC

I'm also particularly peeved that the stuns got mega nerfed in 1.0

No more camera sway from them

[crude prism]

Isn't that just dependent on what headgear you wear?

[crisp crest]

cant find zahir asadullah relapse is so dumb bruh

[tacit gull]

No, you just dont get camera sway anymore regardless

Even with no helmet on

[crude prism]

I'll be honest I don't remember the last time I got flashed in RoN lul

[tacit gull]

Even from getting punched or stingered

Or gassed, none of those apply camera sway anymore

[jolly verge]

stinger and beanbag still make your camera sway

[civic zinc]

The suspect ai overhaul makes them a lot more unpredictable in my experience

I installed the version which has more npcs because it makes levels more chaotic

And it makes levels like streamer more difficult and interesting

[fleet haven]

K9 units when

[stone stump]

never

[bold moat]

dawg

[buoyant pecan]

Serial killer in suburban or rural house level when (Fairfax Residence ripoff pls)

And yes, I know A Lethal Obsession is basically that

[upbeat yacht]

Question

Can you remove the visual ques

Like the little circle you look at to kick a door

Or to secure evidence

[shy tulip]

I believe it's context hints in settings, or something like that

[somber quail]

do yall prefer light or heavy armor

[stone bay]

Heavy ceramic is my go to

[grizzled palm]

depends if you want to see a lot of contact or not. light with front back steel can give you that extra space while saving you from those unfortunate hits from a flank or somebody you didn't see. heavy is good if you plan to move in with a team or plan to get shot at a lot

[random fossil]

how do i get more armor other than a stab vest?

[native rune]

The same way you got the stab vest

[random fossil]

how did i get the stab vest?

[native rune]

You go to the loadout screen and click the armor

[random fossil]

but the stab vest is the only one i have

[shy tulip]

You probably have broken mods if you can only select stab vest

[quick lintel]

9999 slot breaks it for me

[hexed granite]

see that's the ultimate conclusion i ended up in. if the game needed to update, it replaced the play button with an update button. and there isnt a button under properties to revert to a previous edition

[sharp fox]

❌

[quick lintel]

That shits gonna be so horribly animated

[quick lintel]

I was replying to this mb blob

[stone bay]

The mag dump: For when you need to make sure it's 100% dead

[icy wraith]

check the steam article i posted right before the one you replied

[charred mulch]

Im having trouble with some mods if anybody is willing to help

[shy tulip]

It depends what trouble you are having

[charred mulch]

Well, I subscribe too the mods but they simply just dont work

The mods that you can get through the game atleast

[shy tulip]

If the game says modded on the top right, then they are installed

If they work is a question about the mod in general

Probably gunfighter and/or sniper or not

[charred mulch]

It does say modded but I dont see the mods. Even the gun mods I have. They just simply arent there.

[shy tulip]

What mods

It should pop up with an option for a quick paid download or a free slow download, after that, I think

Files tab

[charred mulch]

I thought I had the HRT DLC but maybe I dont. I cant even ginf the DLC. I swear I bought it but I might be going insane

[shy tulip]

Check your DLCs tab, you can right click the game on steam > manage > properties > dlc

[charred mulch]

even besides that. Theres a mod for an MCX and it says it replaces the 416 but its just the 416 thats there

[shy tulip]

Check the upload date of the mod/comments

[charred mulch]

Honestly its fine ig the mods 😭 not that important. Ima try and play with people. Idk if playing w randoms is a good idea tho

im 15 men scare me

[shy tulip]

Yeah it depends on the mod, if it's installed it should be working, you can check the mod section in your files to see

If it isn't working then it's probably the mod

[charred mulch]

prolly the mod

Like I said idrc its not that deep too me

[open harness]

Does CS gas, affect enemies through the wall

[hexed granite]

yeah

big cheese if you know what ur doing

i wonder how hard it would be to create volumetric dynamic clouds (or something) that just fills the space and doesn't go through walls (and granted idk if ANY game has done this before). i hear theyre making new models for smoke to make it harder to see, but idk what they have in store

[open harness]

oh I see, thank you

[errant musk]

uhh is there anyway to make AI keeping their shield on since they always put shield away even they see a suspect

[whole garnet]

Wait did they do the Unreal 5 transition now or is that a future update?

[shy tulip]

It is in progress and will come next update

[shy tulip]

They shouldn't do it unless they are putting it away to do something else, like cuff a suspect, open a door, etc

[random fossil]

i have no mods though

what do i do to fix it

[shy tulip]

What does it say on the top right of your game

[random fossil]

modded

but i dont have anything in my collection

[amber dock]

You might still have something in your files

You can go to E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\Engine\Binaries\Win64
in there should be the crash reporter
launch it and do "delete mod data"

@random fossil

[random fossil]

trying to find it

says it cant delete it

what do i do

🙏

[hushed meadow]

@shy tulip why was the dlc delayed? I don't wanna read the newletter

[shy tulip]

When did I become the TLDR guy

[hushed meadow]

[random fossil]

^

im stuck with an invisible mod

[shy tulip]

They're transitioning the game to UE5 mainly for optimization tools and open-source SDKs for modding, it required delaying the update to get finished properly

[jolly verge]

crashreporter? What exactly does it says? You just need press Yes on every promt after Delete Mod Data

[random fossil]

i did

[jolly verge]

did you get mods from nexus or modio?

[random fossil]

it says the invisible mod is being used in another process

[hushed meadow]

Will UE5 look better overall?

[random fossil]

nexus

[jolly verge]

are you in game right now?

[random fossil]

yes

[jolly verge]

why?

[random fossil]

what do you mean why'

[jolly verge]

You must leave game before removing mods

[shy tulip]

From the little digging I have done, it could, but if they want to keep the same minimum requirements, it won't change much graphically. It mainly lets them do more optimization and use tools UE5 has

[jolly verge]

Then remove paks mods and delete mod data again

[shy tulip]

The mistake most ue5 games make is deciding because it's UE5 they're going to go for as realistic as possible and ruin optimization

[random fossil]

ohh

lemme see if its fixed now

[jolly verge]

just make sure you have no modded pak files in paks folder before you clear mod data

[random fossil]

oh my god my armor appears now

thank you

[open harness]

How can I get A rank on Sinous trail, we completed the main objectives without any mistakes/penalties and the best we could get is B

[wraith basin]

You need to arrest more suspects.

[copper cypress]

Except for the suspects in nightclubs, hospitals, and schools who have a pressure value at the beginning, the rest of the levels have the lowest pressure value at the beginning?

I'm not sure what the initial stress levels are for the suspects in the other levels.

[distant sail]

me when the ai 180 noscopes me from nowhere again (i have died 5 times in a row to invisible enemies)

[stone stump]

skill issue

[pine locust]

Hello everyone! I was wondering, now that the game's been out for a while does it still make sense to keep the supporter alpha option in the game properties? Is there any difference as up now?

[stone stump]

yeah, there is. the supporteralpha branch is outdated

i have no clue why they haven't removed it

[pine locust]

Exactly what i suspected, i probably missed some update about this

Thank you😄

[distant sail]

my bad bro forgot i'm supposed to be hawkeye 🙏

[stone stump]

being aware of your surroundings would be more than enough

[stone bay]

You get S-rank (highest possible rank) by getting all civilians, all suspects (yes, all suspects) and all officers out alive. Colleting all weapons all objectives and soft objectives etc.

Then you get an S-Tier. Usually requires you to play non-lethal.

[stoic vortex]

you must use less lethal to get s rank

[stoic vortex]

i was so close to S rank valley of dolls until some guard decided to surrender and get down when i bean bag him

dude somehow timed himself to get beanbagged in the cranium

[distant sail]

was literally one guard and one civilian from S on that mission before i got one-tapped by the last guard 💀

[stoic vortex]

that one guard across the pool that somehow became chris kyle with an SMG

[stone bay]

how does one get replay mode?

[wraith basin]

From options.

[stone bay]

technically you can use a pistol or any other weapon.

[stone bay]

cheers

[stoic vortex]

my aim is too wonky

[stone bay]

dont get me wrong, mine is as well

especially with the beanbag shotgun