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You only can have troubles inthis game if you actively trying to take suspects non-lethaly
Once you learn the map, or at least a general path, you'll catch on quick
Hardest part of the map compared to the others is just the layout until you learn where things are, I kept going in circles my first few tries
Always go for the bombs first. Theyāre usually on the first floor in two of the following spaces:
The lecture hall
The cafe/lounge space
One of the first floor classrooms
Thank you!
Ofc. If youāre playing commander mode know that only you can defuse the bombs so I recommend you have at least one officer cover you while you do such
Seeing as it takes quite a long time
Since a lot of halls have multiple connecting doors I tend to split officers into red and blue team and have them clear rooms separately/cover each other since most rooms are small enough that you donāt need five guys charging into a single classroom
My final tip would be to make sure shield guy or shotgun guy is always first in stack so he can be the shock and awe
If youāre entering through the front entrance always gas before entry
I wouldn't go for the bomb first. Id go for the shooters first. Remember where the bomb is and come back later.
And I don't even bring more than 1-2 mags for that. I just gas every classroom I don't wanna peek. I start from front entrance but go left towards the library. Go 2f from there and clear all the 2f. Then go down
Agreed, people are mobile, bombs are not
Deploy the RC bombs
iād get the bomb if i cleared the area, iām not gonna go looking around for it though before suspects
gas barely covers the front entrance + takes long to have an effect+ you should be going in quick, most of the time youāll have 2 suspects at front entrance and they start killing civs in 2 minutes, by the time u clear upstairs and canteen civs die
do you give everyone gas masks?
I defnitely should reinstall the game on SSD
it takes way too long to load
Totally understand. The gas completely covered the main atrium for me and Ive personally not had any problems with suspects killing civies (Iāve probably just been lucky or loud enough to draw them in)
What is better, bean shotguns or pepper guns?
Beer gun
what
bean shotgun is better
pepper uses too much ammo unless you get a head shot and then theyre gonna be coughing a lot and walking behind corners while beanbang just one shot and they stand still and you can restrain them
swat ai doesn't need gas masks
is there a way to disable trip wires from the opposite side of the door they're on? I know you can cut the wire if you're on the same side as them.
Yes, by peeking it
peek it
why does no one remember peaking is a thing š
Peaking is a kinda goated tactic
But also if you see a trip wire with the optical wand. The AI can now be ordered to defuse the trap
I still gotta do S ranks. š
I got a few the other day with some people in MP.
I remember OG R6.
Planning out all the tactics before deployment.
MP in RoN it's like everyone is in a rush usually lol
Where to report bugs Bcm sbr has ass recoil not realistic
SR-16 or GA416?
when dlc?
both suck just as much
is the hawaiian shirt only in multiplayer mode
no
it's unlocked by s ranking valley of the dolls iirc
alr thanks
I run the sr16 with a fiveseven
is the fm53 unlockable by completing the game or do you have to do it another way
nv it was the millennium i was thinking of
how do you unlock that tho
Is there a DLC where I can ACCIDENTALLY destroy FASFA headquarters
dude WHERE is george brixley
Did you check his office
He tends to roam the map
But most commonly I find him in the alleyway by the stairwell and his office
it's supporter edition cosmetic only
damn
We are hosting training + 2 hour operation tomorrow for Ready or Not....
š If you are a fan of the game and want to get the most out of it ... you should join
š If you are a fan of badass teamwork highly suggest you join
BUT If you are KIA (Killed In Action), you are immediately removed from all subsequent missions.
dm š
I second this
What did the FASFA do to you
Nothing
Which is the point
Filed my shit 2 months ago and they still havenāt processed it
Sounds right
Thank you so much, how do you choose which officer goes first?
Usually if they donāt stack up the way you want. You can individually look at the officer you want to command, open the command interface with whatever button you have assigned (I have middle mouse assigned), and there should be a gray menu with the option to āswap stackā and you can move that officer to whichever part of the stack you want
Like letās say my marksman guy is in front instead of my shotgun guy. I can click on the shotgun guy and order him to swap with the guy in front
If you have a shield officer they will always swap with whoeverās in front before breaching
Once again thank you for the advice and help!
Ofc homie!!!
In second mission there is farm, computer, and what is third optional objective?
alright, second mission done on S
Game was better when it was in EA though... More mission types, more variety on same maps
No-no kids' photos.
I is by the bed, on the nightstand.
pictures in his bedroom
itās boring and easy
And?
Itās a whole swat team for like 4 methhead highschoolers
Not surprising who wins that
what makes 'Valley of the Dolls' hard?
keeping voll alive
idk vro go play it
i shotgun him every time i js cant hold back
but like it says arrest him
The orders dont apply to people who did the shit he did šÆ
yea like make him root in prison
Nah he 40 thats like 40 years too old š„
how many civvies are there as well
Iād say just the amount of long sight lines paired with aimbot AI makes pain in the ass to fight against
yea exactly
Like the garden area to the basement or pool
imo valley isnt as hard as alot of people think it is
Not to mention getting shot by AI through windows, mainly lower floor from the outside, itād be almost impossible to see anything inside IRL unless a door was open
Especially because of the sun
i usually shoot anyone i can see with a weapon from the third floor staircase area
yell at them a few times and if they have their gun up, pop em
Volls head suddenly explodes whenever i see him.
gotta be a bug. 
the first floor living room is a pain in the ass to clear, and the level is pretty long which can make it difficult, but honestly voll's house is one of the best levels for cqb
i can get voll himself but all the gards just make it impossible
load up AP and dump on em, voll's the only one youre supposed to keep alive
sometimes, you have to ignore the ROE to finish the map to begin with. 
SA58 silly switch or P90 silly switch
send your team in first, use alot of C2 and if youre really struggling use gas grenades
Saw one of the guards in Valley of the dolls map taking someone hostage today. Never seen that before on that map.
we need more 7.62x51mm nato guns fr
ARs all day brother, all you need
only thing i ask for
Small little girl caliber
556 Lmao Too little 4 me
Make an assault rifle chambered in 50 bmg and i might play this game
whenever i get tired running suppresed ars, i pick the sa58 with the LOUDENER muzzle attachment. 
It is a pita but I usually just have the swat AI come from the stairs by the theatre room, and get one team to clear one room while the other clears the other room
Then I get the whole team to go into the kitchen from different doors, and just breach in from there
I just avoid that catwalk in the living room all I can
Works decently well for me until I get capped through the windows from god knows where while all the doors are shut
one time i killed all his guards and it was just voll and he shot himself
I see your once and ill rase you twice
Currently on SCARYessa farm
I completed all the other objectives on this map but Elaine Raskin is nowhere to be found
Iāve spent the past 10 minutes running around the whole map going PUT YOUR FUCKIN HANDS UP! GET DOWN I WANNA SEE HANDS! Over and over
i finally completed "carriers of the vine" with an S, completing the "the left behind" achievement.
that was a difficult one, especially considering that i play with the noswat mod that removes my team, i dont like it, the ai bothers me
i dont know if im skilled or if its the game, or maybe what i did is nothing
Iāve recently discovered the joys of SA58 JHP
Here I am assuming that the JHP would have a hard time penetrating armor. Nope. Itās just a more deadly AP round
only level 4 armor can stop it, same for .300 and 7.62x39 jhp
guys we need something In 50. Beowulf
I completed a map but didn't receive a new map.
WHY!!
maybe you're at the last one, how many did you do so far?
this was the valley of the dolls map. I received a B rating.
is that right? then i have no idea, gotta go anyway, hope you get it fixed
ngl Mindjot's fucking CANCER. The amount of angles you have to hold is insane
Why is there no steam achievement for completing all missions on S tier?
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its as if that map was specifically shown to show the flaws of RoN's AI. Tons of angles to cover, AI shooting through solid coloured glass. AI shooting through walls. And many, many fucking more.
quick question, is there anyway you can maybe fall back updates
Um yes there isā¦
whats the difference between commander, practice and training? is commander just a normal campain ?
yes
found the evidence
completed the other objectives
I mean the only thing that failed was to rescue the civvies (10/11)
thanks
damn, sucks to hear, thanks tho
I wonder what guns we gonna get with the dlc
KS-23 
Personally I want an AR-10 or the funny MK23 or M&P R8
the zip 22
why would SWAT Have a Mk23
AR-10 Is actually based
Canadian police use it and a few police units in the US do.
My local unit occasionally uses it in place of Glocks
Peel regional police in Canada
As a Canadian I do support this statement
buttt this is a Swat team in like California
I own one too. One helluva gun
Should just add FAMAS and Galil
It would be a funny pistol to have.
We already have a Colt Python of all things
the whole csgo arsenal
Basically
They should add an M110
Doesnt matter
Trust
Based
drop avp
Or the classic AR-10 we see some goobers carry since that one cop canonically used a M14
I wanna be like that hero
We need more .308/7.62x51 guns
AR-10 would be wildly fun to use
We have that
guys trust
SA-58 OSW
A KAC SR-25
MK11!!!
MP8
The R8 is a 8 shot .357 magnum made for Swat
One cannot argue that the AR-10 would be bad because they make tactical ones with adjustable stocks and a 16 inch barrel
And the .308 would be perfect for penetrating armor but more controllable as an AR platform
We need like blacktip
HK45 is just an updated USP tactical
yeah and therefore would probably be found within the hands of A SWAT officer
Way more common than a USP for sure
I am about to buy one
But I desperately want a AR-10
Better yet
Remodel the G36C 
I agree 100%
I despise the cut off rail model since itās LESS tactical
The first dev that adds the AR-10 wins a prize.
Itās a uh
I dunno
Kiss on the mouth or something
If the SA58 is on the table, then I'd say all of the other modern, arguably more practical battle rifles are on the table too.
Also COUGH COUGH (https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1190008005752803369) COUGH COUGH
sorry i wasnt there bro i was in the psych ward
i think an 1884 springfield trapdoor rifle should be added to the game
and in 5 days im going to another. just transitional period and i wont have my phone
they should add an intercontinental ballistic missile for hard missions
Antrax gas grenade when
napalm when?
how does one tell what missions theyve completed?
In practice mode/commander, only missions that you have completed will appear, except for the most recent (last on the list) which may be a map you just unlocked. You'll probably know if you beat all the maps.
In MP, that's more on you to remember
ty
i yearn for the day we start getting QoL updates
Just getting back into RoN, who the fuck is Watchmenwakeup?
Heard word he's been doing this for months apparently
He hosts multiple lobbies and just stands in them blathering heretical crap into a microphone.
Just the crazy uncle of the RoN Players ig
just got the game today, any tips to give me a jumpstart?
ya know
I hate how M14s and G3 rifles are suppose to be fucking HARD to control full auto.
And then you have these fucking stickman framed ladies in the farm map just being CHAMPS and TANKING that shit like its just 9mm.
Yall does an officer resigning count as a death for unlocking the devwatch?
dont focus on S rank,focus on finishing the missions
also the f90 is amazing
yes
FECK-
Jittelyang or Fuhhutugan
fuhulutoogan
please please please fix the clipping with the gas mask and in the loading screen
Which of the two muzzle brakes for the SA-58 is louder?
wait is Eli the dude with the mustache or not
louder? only difference is vertical recoil reduction, smfb reduce it by 10% more than asr does
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someone should make a scream if you love ready or not meme
Quick question
Does anyone else suffer from severe frame drop because of zooming in magnified scopes?
Is there a way to turn off picture in picture?
nah blud, jittelyang on top
Use DX11
Turn down graphics in settings too
Gotcha
So when are they gonna nerf the susepects
i feel like ive seen this already
i remember lebron with that generic death scream
are there any traps on the wineyard mission
not without mod, sins of the father got flashbang door trap, sullivan slope and ides of march got boobytrap
Every map used to have traps šāāļø
in "23 megabytes per second", near a server rack that is playing some tune, is it a reference to something? I think I heard it from somewhere else?
hi i have an issue the game is only letting me select stab vest or no vest and not showing any of the others and i cant find a fix
in loadout or customization section?
loadout i think its to do with mods as its fine in safe mode ill uninstall some and will come back if its still an issue
yeah, mod issue
its fixed dont know why i didnt think of that sooner, thank you
I donāt know if this is what youāre referring to, but the music ties into the level. The music changes tunes at certain moments, including when you find the servers. Iād imagine that the tune is also similar to tunes in The Spider, Sinuous Trail, and Valley of the Dolls, as those levels are connected story-wise.
Zack did a great job making connections between the levels using the soundtrack.
This is what I meant "https://whyp.it/tracks/178639/audio?token=xUsu0"
Ah, sorry. Donāt know that one.
by far the worst part of the game is still the looking for civs part after a mission
God its so awfull
Why is it even in the game
its soooooooooooooo boring
they should just remove civilians
no but they should have it be optional objective
me (a wounded civilian) dying of blood loss because the SWAT team is playing hide and seek with an hostage for 8 hours
Also it annoys me so much that they changed the name of FBI to fisa in ron lore since FISA in swedish (My native language) means to fart
Also they still havent fixed the bs unauthorized force
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because they didn't want their own office becoming a IRL RoN mission with a FBI team
because the fbi would raid someone for making a game where the fbi is mentioned a few times
i 100% understand the CIA becoming the USIA tho, enhanced interrogation technique DOES NOT LOOK FUN
The USIA change kindof makes sense since they are a major faction in this universe
But the fbi and bortac are mentioned like once or twice
the fisa agent asking you to let human trafficking victim on site "i said close the door" is not a good look
and they would not get in trouble if it was an fbi agent
people talk shit about the fbi all the time and NOTHING happends
yeah but i understand not taking the risk anyway, would not bet my life and my workplace even on a slim chance that a one of them had a bad day or is bored and have nothing else to do
and so is the USIA (yeah i'm not saying the true name)
Where the FBI has no say in anything at all
bait used to be believeable
Not saying anything bad would happen but look, if i told you, play this russian roulette that only have 1 chance in a 1000 you die, and you win nothing if you live. Why tf you wanna play
but the chance is 0 in 1000
because the fbi doesnt care, they have better things to do
damn i forgot how alien usa law enforcement is to us european
youre clearly trolling and i see no point in speaking to you about this any further
š¤ fart in swedish
im so proud #šØron-screenshots-and-art message
yall why isnt dismemberment and blood loss working for me
are you using the correct equipment
they need to be alive
https://www.nourlimit.com/
real funny stuff guys. great easter eggš
just had a suspect suddenly break into a sprint, snap 90 degrees, aiming his pistol and instantly manages to land a shot into my arm
This mf
lmao
me and the homies hate Ends of the earth mission.
the mission lore gets a little too real bro. 
Anyone else having a problem only getting a C on Rust Belt despite completing everything?
farm is actually such a beautiful map
too bad its filled with homicidal baddies. 
@stone bay can you explain what you mean by this
#šØron-screenshots-and-art message
do i need to install the mods from external sites ?
oh, no you can find them in the normal mods page
oh tnx
Anyone know how to fix the stutter walk?
If you are not the host in an MP lobby, they probably have a mod that is causing you stuttering, like gunfighter movement.
Would me also having said mod get rid of the effect?
Yes, as long as you have the movement part of the mod, it has multiple parts (an all in one or individual parts)
Assuming that they indeed have that mod
When next update I am begging
āSpringā

1.1 and DLC 1 are said to release in āSpringā
DLC 2 said to release in āSummerā
1.2 in āFallā according to vol. 68
Considering itās the middle of May I suppose that means itās coming extremely Soon Or Not
34 more days until the end of Spring
how do i activate attachments wihtout thumb mouse button
You'd have to rebind the key
Are there any mods that increase the number of suspects that still work post 1.0?
ok
Plenty
Would you mind linking me to some? All the ones I found on Nexus are pre 1.0
The ends of the earth is the most depressing mission
holy hell
i just got the game today and i love it
SO MUCH, might be the best tactical game ive played
Today I kinda obtained a bit more of a moral compass in this game
I thought this game was meant to about being a good cop and helping people. So whats with the police brutality in the arrest animations? Punching and kicking surrendering suspects is definitely illegal
when they kick the suspect down, thats usually when the suspect just shot 20 civilains and they have no time to waste for them resisting
Nahh it plays totally randomly
Sometimes they just beat on totally compliant suspects
yeah but would you risk them resisting got what they just did
those are usually the ones which could have guns hidden on them
I don't often see me kick them to the floor
For my officer
Unless they fired upon me
Or fellow officers.
And became compliant
So your logic is they could still be armed and that justifies punching them in the back of the head randomly while restraining them
I do find the slap a bit extra tbh
And my officer doesn't seem to do it often either
This game gets super preachy about ānobody is above the law!!!!ā And then does that
I also find I do it alot less to people I saw become compliant
Games can not be 100% accurate
But still have a message
I also idk if it's just me. But individual officers seem to have some sense of personality
Like if I use judge it's more of the police brutality
Wile using another
I hardly see it
So idk if I'm tweakin
Or if it's a detail
Thereās a line between an inaccuracy and downright hypocrisy
Why you trolling? lol
Idk. I do notice it depends on the officer character.
Idk if that's just me being silly
Like whenever I've tried to arrest someone complaiant
No slaps no kicks.
Just cuff
It shouldnāt be happening anyway tho
You donāt switch characters, the animations are randomized, there are different animations between suspects and civilians
I was detaining a suspect
Oh
Could have been rng luck
I may mod the game with a bit of officer personality
And make the stress more prevalent in missions
So officers become more hesitant. Sometimes distant during mission.
I already run an ai overhaul mod
I get unauthorized use of force penalty for pepperballing someone once over the limit but not for punching a yielding guy in the back of the head
And it feels very nice. But officers feeling a tad bit more human.
Exactly
I shall inform the devs to make it that the slap counts as an ROE violation
Lol
Imma mod a bunch of stuff so it changes like the chance of that occuring.
And rather then like full roe violation it's a warning as it's rng
But the less tense of a situation so not under fire no current fire
No I just need a mod that makes the suspect punch and kick arrest animations happen when I cuff civilians too
Lower the chances of suspects being slap
That can be done
100% chance of the kick or slap, and it deals 30 points of damage
āI donāt have all day officer.ā
āCivilian that was threatened by armed goons two seconds ago
I have found wile playing with my buddies
My trigger discipline is better in this game
Then what it used to be when I first started playing
It would genuinely be funny if the punch animation triggered the ROE violation dialogue
how does therapy work
Stress goes bye bye after one or a few missions
canu revive a officer in therapy when doing like a mission youve done before? @native rune
you can't revive officer, his gone forever if get KIA status after the mission
i meant like if an officer is in therapy, can u do like a different mission youve done before to get the officer back
sure
yes?
LETS FLIPPIN GOOOOO
whos the invisible ghost driving the bearcat
how do u keep your teamayes staus/morale high during a mission
Use less-lethal weapons
Take more people alive, don't die, don't let your team die
tbf shit like this was also the norm in SWAT 4
Greased Palms having me die after leaning my head and getting headshot is super fun
realistic
how do i equip taser
In your load out options
uhh
then scroll up on 2
k
any idea if DLC 1 and the 1.1 update are planned for Spring 2024 still stands as not seen a clear date and it is 17th of may 2024? Did they run out of money or something?
They didn't run out of money, it's just probably delayed
does someone have mod thats contain grenades?
Don't you use helmet?
You can't be one-shotted if you have helmet
the mission after that is way worse
you get shot instantly from like the top floor š
Gotta say, there is a certain satisfaction in taking all suspects alive
What weapons did you guys use in the hospital level?
The SWAT Ai and I were both using 4.6 AP, but accidentally killed an important target and failed the mission š„ŗ
sa58, one or two shots is enough to kill the suspect, very good for the armor
Spring is still (technically) ~34 more days away from ending
I personally use mods to patch that, at a point, when the enemies are stupidly accurate, it just makes the game less fun
bruh i just came back to the game to finish the campaign
the new vineyard is by far the scariest map dawg what the fuck
the logo was creepy
the drawings & assassination plots terrify me
i hesitated to go to the back part of the vineyard
i didn't know a bunch of cultist radfems could be this scary
shit trumped hotel by miles
But mission failed lol
how
Important target dies.
is this what we've become?
Yes
in the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarms of an aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangel
you donāt fail it you just get a bad grade
only mission that fails it is greased palms
Hey, I can't find the last civilian on Valley of the Doll, how can I fix that ? Even if my team search for them, they're just not here 
did you arrest the one woman in the closet thing
Iād look in the bathroom closet for that woman, on the balcony that attaches to that bathroom, the tiny bathroom that attaches to the theater, and thoroughly check the outside with the hedges and tents, in and around them
where is the closet ?
the only closet i found is empty
outside is 100% clear, im going to check the theater's bath then
god damn, she was in the theater
thanks man, it's been 3 days im stuck lmfao
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I got a question yall, in your opinion whats the worst or most difficult level in RoN
For most difficult, I'd say Greased Palms.
Same
If playing with AI teammates in Brisa Cove, they just dont wanna work with you almost at all usually. Denying orders, not guarding their backs and getting shot or just getting in your way so often that you just wanna mag dump them.
greased palms
does the shield have a light on it?
I use a helmet but I get one-shotted while barely wounded
That goddamn mail wharehouse is some PTSD shit
Yeah, enemies shooting from every possible gap.
mfw me and the homies turn big dick gerard into a 1000hp raid boss. 
No, that is not how the game works
If you get killed when hit in the head it means you already were hit before
You can equip ballistic mask if, it increases amount of headshots you can survive
I was hit like once before and it was the leg, I'm like certain about this
nope
is the DEA a thing in ron universe
What armor type did you have?
Ceramic full cover
I run steel and Ballistic Mask to keep safe most of the time
"why did I die in like 2 hits"
Trolled by Void, simple as
Alright, next mission for S rank is Greased Palm...
I feel like this one will take long time to complete
Ong just go into mods and grab every possible OP mod you can
Nexus has the most I think
Spoken like a coward
I hope you don't have any plans tonight and also a mouthguard for when you get the urge to shatter your own teeth in rage
NAH
FUCK GREASED PALMS RESPECTFULLY
every other map I will do legit, but FUCK GREASED PALMS
Actually first attempted went really well
that's just the game trying to bait you into thinking it'll be easy
nah "god of the valley "(14th floor hotel) can fuck right off
Hotel was actually not that bad for me
what of the three entries did you use
Iād need a diagram of the room to tell you
Good luck getting F tier on it, let alone S tier
Cops should have sent an army there instead of 5 people
That applies to about 2/3rds of the missions in this game. I somewhat recently bought the SWAT 3 GOTY Edition and it has an option for a two-element career, which is nice.
Eh even tho the datacenter mission is annoying it can be done with 5 people
Greased Palms tho, a bit annoying with how much open area there is
Nah, shooting everyone on sight is pretty easy
Gameplay convenience š¤·āāļø
If they don't get you in the mailroom ofc
eazy S
just be patient
Do not rush, check every visible pixel before advancing
I died so many times at the post office and data center
Are there militairy ish skins in RON? And is there a MICH 2000?
I mean thereās camo and stuff
I know getting a B on Carriers of the Vine gets you a lot of camo shit
You can get mods for that I think
Easiest way to get S every level is gas grenades+ launcher
Completed it, and then deleted game because poor optimization and permanent trauma
S rank...
It took me a solid week to beat that map.
replays don't work if the modded content in them is taken out of the game right?
Is anyone annoyed how suspects will continue their fucking screaming after I put another round in their head
I have to decapitate them to get them to stfu
This. I basically put rounds into them until they shut up. By then they usually donāt have a face.
The screaming is just hella obnoxious lol like shut up bro
What sight do you guys recomend with the SLR 47?
whatever fits you :))
I usually go with an Eotech if Iām running sights.
Unsubbing =/= deleting mods, #āmodding-faq-archive
beanbag shotgun or r7 laucnher
Beanbag ftw
cons + pros rn
or anything that comes to your mind about the beanbag
Beanbag is almost always just one hit and they surrender when you yell for compliance.
Beanbag for practice mode and r7 for commander with traits
looks like im gonna play with r7

With 2 negotiators and 1 pacifier all maps will be easy to S run
k
but uhh i play all lethall
but still get an A+ on the first mission
š„ŗš
stop begging
Yeah the issue is that when I enter the mail room there are multiple openings with multiple suspects
Otherwise I always crouch
I've been playing with the zombies mod on the hardest difficulty and one of my guys just detonated a dude's vest on Neon from ~5 feet away.
just arrested amos voll and he said "this is about the kids isnt it" so calmy
such a silly guy
Bro failed to pay his taxes
FINALLY s rank on valley of the dolls
couldnt find the suspicious videos in the bedroom
the wonders of 9mm
i shoot this guy in the head and hes incapacitated
and the one time i dont check the door i get blown up, i blame myself
Amos begging to catch a .45 to the face be like:
PSA :one .357 JHP in the crotch incapacitate without killing (and failling), just cuff when he is on the ground thinking about what he did wrong
Sounds like a plan
if officers quit in iron mode does that count as losing them ?
Yes
fucking idiotic game
how can i check if im already screwed? i dont recall any of them quitting but iunno
what if i fire them ?
I don't think you can fire em either, but I could be wrong on that one
I don't think there is a way to check, but I'd imagine you would know if they quit because you'd have an empty slot (not including when you unlock a new slot)
ah, so the game doesnt re-hire them on its own ?
wait ive 3 instead of 4. so i guess im fucked then
No, you have to rehire them because you can pick people with diff traits
so if i had only 3 officers in my roster then that means one of them resigned?
anything i can do, to start missions solo without this dogshit ai
im going for the watch/achievements so cant use ai mods. and im being annoyed that they get stressed while doing fucking nothing
im using one rn and i can still get achievements
i thought that was purposefully disabled
i used the ingame mod.io page, download the most popular ai mod on there, checksum enabled
still get my achievements
Mods don't disable achievements, you just don't get official scoring in-game
they should remake swat 4's elite difficulty where you Had to get an S rank and any score deductions meant an instant mission fail 
add it to ironman mode and dont tell anybody.
You can
... just hire new ones?
For the achievement?
Gets shot in toe, loses S rank
fuck that
SWAT 4 basically had only non-lethal guns
Anything lethal was useless
It's fun like the first time, but the game is pretty much built around you not shooting people, which isn't a bad thing necessarily
Just doesn't make it a fun fps
and how will that help me
this is for the watch/achievements
you wanna play solo? just tell the ai to hold at the start of the mission
I dunno, realistic firefights like that make it very enjoyable
swat 4 goated though
though vanilla yeah the guns are innaccurate as balls and the game wants you to fight an actual north korean death squad/various other heavily armed terrorists with pepperball guns if you want to pass on higher difficulties
back when i last played RON a couple versions ago it felt lke regular ass criminals were willing to fight to the death way too much but now that ive come back to it
its more in the sweet spot between swat 4s 'go fight actual special forces from a foreign country with this paintball gun' and having to shoot everybody on the map
-forgort to press enter on that aprt-
youre sleeping on the glock (laser accurate but only while holding the walk key
only lethal gun in the vanilla game that doessnt suffer from those super dated gunplay mechanics
SWAT 4
not because guns were bad
but because killing anyone = failing misison
ok but they were
your crosshairs spread across the entire screen the moment you moved with anything that wasnt a pistol
basically every mod lowers the pass rating for elite difficulty. and i dont think anyone has played vanilla swat 4 without some variation of Elite Force on it in a million years
i dont understand this piece of fucking shit game dude. had 3 officers on green "content", finished mission now on B and 2 of them resigned from duty due to stress. what even is fucking going on? how are you meant to get that watch if they literally leave from green morale
One thing the game doesn't tell you is that firing weapons increases officer stress and using a suppressor reduces the amount of stress firing causes. If you don't plan on going nonlethal, use a supressor and keep firing to a minimum.
wish i never bought this shit
thanks keckles. ill come back to this dogshit when im not pissed off lmao
wasted fucking 4 hours of my saturday on this brainrot game
totally wrong, firing weapon don't increases officers stress, it's icnreases suspect's
Just play in practice mode, same thing as campaign without the officer metagame
its about the iron man achievements and the watch
officers stress inscreases only by killing/exfill from mission
that cant be right zeus because ive done killing spree missions before and they didnt get so stressed earlier.. what keckles said makes sense because i was firing like crazy now albeit with a suppressor
you should use some traits like negotiators, so suspects will surrender from yelling and you can arrest them and heal officers stress
firing weapon don't increase your team stress, it's not how stress mechanic works
iunno tbh i dont wanna know. i just want to get those achievements and delete the game
so fucking annoyed. 3 hours down the drain
the thing about suppressors is they they reduce stress gained by suspects, so they wont be allerted early compare to shooting without it
ill take your word on it
imn just gonna non lethal weapons now and just shoot enemies 10 times in the face that way no stress on those fucking loser pussies ai team mates
what a black mold brainrot game mechanic
if you want easy play just grind 2 negotiators at least, half of suspects on map will surrender from yelling
not only you have to worry that these fucking idiots dont die, you now have to fucking count bullets and try your hardest not to kill anyone ALL while you lose your save if you die
good idea, thanks
Skissue š
skull issue
killing suspects and especially civilians lowers morale a lot
what is stress mechanic btw, how does it work?
officers or suspects one?
Judge doesnāt get stressed obviously when he shoots anybody
In fact, his therapy IS the bloodcurdling scream of a terrorist that gets shot with a Mark 18

are we sure we dont get the watch if they resign ?
yeap
you can get only hermit if you lose officer due to resign or fired
any chance they got around to fixing the lights being as bright as the sun?
resign, fired or dead and you gotta restart game
brainrot game design. im so pissed off man
didnt realize i had to do a thesis and research for 6 months before attempting iron man
was probably way too hard to type out an extra sentence explaining that resigning also counts as losing an officer. or explaining how stress "mechanic" works in context of what im on about
Officers stress is easy to understand, they have range from 0 to 1
0 - 0.19 Content
0.2 - 0.49 Anxious
0.5 - 0.74 Stressed
0.75 - 1 Crisis
Killing suspects/civilians incrases stress by 0.04 - 0.08 (can be reduced by S.B.A.G.S. trait)
Arressting suspect heal 0.08 stress and 0.03 for civi (can be increased by moral officer trait)
Base stress for new officers is from 0 to 0.2, so if you really lucky you can get Anxious officer at the start
makes no sense for them to go from content to resign due to stress (higher than 1) in a single fucking mission
especially if i didnt kill everyone and didnt kill any civilians
Goddamit, another Kicker got killed
Officer stress also get multiplied by 1.3 if he responsible for a kill
which is stronger? Flash or Stinger?
having a splendid run right now where i havent had as ingle guy go below content
i left them in spawn
stinger stuns for longer but flash is more consistantly able to stun in my experience
its just bullshit. shooting has to do a lot with it because i went ham in taht mission
Getting a stupid goal of getting fuckn useless cosmetics is the real brainrot
noone asked you dog
No, don't care about officers, just about suspects
they stun same, but stinger have a bit more range +2m, but can deal good amout of damage, so it's risky to use
i thought i read somewhere stinger was longer
w/e i spread misinformation on the internet
my fav past time
I wonder if flash can have higher radius if enemies looking at it
ok, last attempt with bean gun, if it fails, i am going to try pepper
and realistically a stinger wouldnt bypass objects but idk if its modelled
well, that a complicated one, i can't really tell what suspects stress doing, all i know is that on some maps they can have starting stress and specific value before they raise they weapon
cs gas the overdosing childs bedroom on twisted nerve
sorry intrusive thoughts got me
fuck, i headshotted the suspect š
Actually surprisingly going full non-lethal is easier than lethal...
Since you don't have to wait for them to shoot you or refuse to go down, you cna just shoot everyone on sight
you say that until you start getting shot at through a window
might be because of range, but they both stun for ~8 second if exploded at point blank
How can I put the voices in the games in Spanish?
i prefer pepperballs to the beanbag because fire rate + shit doesnt even really have to hit the guy directly
is there a mod that removes or "cheats" morale that works with single player without disabling cosmetic awards or achievements ?
mods don't disable achievements or cosmetic awards
you mean officers stress?
officer stress not that hard to manage
you can disable it in config file, no mod needed
why at this point not just cheat cosmetics
until it is
if i knew how lol
There's a mod called customisation unlocked
you cna open mod.io ingame and one of the pinned mods at the top of the screen tahts really huge
is it permanent?
unlocks everything
or only when mod is installed
No, once you take it off you still have your own unlocks
I used it when my save got deleted
what i meant is are the changes permanent. oh ok lol
i wish i fucking knew that before i wasted 3 hours of my saturday
If you want to go for the challenge i would seriously recommend just waiting untill they make commander better
bro really wants that watch
Otherwise it's not worth the headache
it fits well with the glasses and hawaii tshirt LMAO
larp
i dont think you know what that word means xd
i think i do
@tacit gullwhats the mod called, if you dont mind please
it is the first thing you see when you open mod.io ingame
you will know which one it is.
ballistic customization unlocked?
ya
it is quite easy to delete the pak file
but its also quite easy to manual install
yeah i think i had to do that the other week. so the unlocks defo stay after you delete the mod ?
no.
Yes, you'll be back to where you were before installing the mod
Or if you unlocked anything meanwhile
It'll apply
but you dont keep every single item when you turn the mod off. to my knowledge
just like. dont delete the mod if you want to keep your precious watch
no you guys are not understanding what im asking lol. i want the watch unlocked permanently. how do i do that without doing this shitty iron man mode
If you delete the mod and the watch is equipped it'll stay on untill you take it off
ok
You don't, you either mod the game or you don't
does it work in MP like can people see it or is it client side only
People can see it
so what do you have to edit to remove morale ?
iunno the mod doesnt work for me
commander.ini file in configs folder
so you basically gotta mod the game so the flashlight doesn't straight up wash out anything you point it at?
alright, 6-th attempt at Greased Palm on S rank
is that in documents or in program files ?
i will dm you and send the file, you just gotta replace it
i can do it myself but as you wish haha. thank you
watchmen is a raving psychotic
My friend's been having issues with the loadouts being bugged, which file handles multiplayer loadouts so we can delete it? File verification didn't work
%LocalAppData%\ReadyOrNot\Saved\SaveGames MetaGameProfile.sav file
what problem with loadout he have exactly?
Immediately crashing upon trying to change primary, which doesn't exist
what if just reset loadout to default?
Didn't work from what I recall
This cave mission is killing me
Which one
I'll look, I might be close to finishing it
Finally finished it
It was like the Ranch one
Rust Belt
no fucking way. lost my iron man save because in valley of dolls enemy came out within literally 2 seoncs of me spawning xDDD
yo have they ever improved the flashlights and just how overly bright light sources in game are? Like, shouldn't light sources be helpful for vision and not blinding? Is this something others notice on their monitors or do I have too much contrast/hdr/vibrancy etc ...
nah i dont mean when one's pointed at you
i mean like pointing a flashlight at something to see it but the narrow cone that the flashlight produces is actually the sun instead of helpful
if i equip 1 wedge, does it give me 1 wedge or 2 wedges to use? asking because i think 1 C2 equipped = 2 usable C2
yeah ik what u mean but the base game flashlight is pretty weak in most vanilla maps tbh
I've realized that proper step by step room clearing is friggin useless
add snipers to usable guns
Why would a swat officer breaching a building use a sniper
and add "ron supporters" role here, to make me feel more special than i am
cuz Sierra exist?
@sinful lake read here before try to nonsense attack me
No map has a long enough range for 4x on a 5.56. Even if you hang back, you will be blocked by walls of almost all areas of every map
bro thinks he is specialist in guns
A sniper has no practical place in this game
also, sniper is literally practical in fan-made maps
and maps that are not even made cuz sniper dosnt exist, add gun to make people make new maps
So we should design vanilla content around mods?
If you are already modding, add in a sniper if you want
we should add snipers, cuz is cool and everyone want snipers to roleplay Sierra sniper that exists in swat
you didnt readed... No one gun has the requeriments to replace it with sniper
bullets are paper flying in the air
or idk how explain it in english, i speak spanish
You do realize that there are literally already mods that add in snipers?
bullets basically dont even reach the objetive cuz theyre made with paper and you gota shoot 30 times the same spot to make the bullet hit ur target with ACOG
i never saw one
why random sniper mod
add snipers, you stop attacking. Smh with english community
Sniper or Not literally exists
they always want to make you the counter....
i saw the entire showcase guns of "Sniper or not"
there is literally no one sniper, wth is that mod
i just saw 3 videos, they all promise sniper in RoN but are just random guys with ACOG sight
also, using vanilla maps, so yes, snipers are viable in vanilla maps. Theyre not 2x2, theyre giant too
LPVO on your AR good enuff 
and i searched snipers in mods and youtube, and there is no one video about snipers. Just sights
only sights, but random guns
i dont care about a desert eagle with x200 sight
xdxdxd
I'm just saying that from a game design perspective, they would at best be mildly disappointing. You wouldn't be able to use them, and then players would complain about wasted resources. From a balancing perspective, they would be difficult to make, as you would have to balance between enemies shooting at players from absurd distances and ai not doing anything as they got pelted from absurd ranges (Assuming that snipers came with a map that has ranges in which one would be able to be used realistically).
It would be much better if they made properly functioning LPVOs
I mean the distances on the outside of postal are enough to discombobulate the ai. You might see a suspect but they wonāt react to anything you do until you get close enough.
Playing SWAT 4 for the first time. The sniper mechanic is cool
Kinda wish it was an official part of RON
anyone know good outfit combos for MOPP/CBRN larping
just no exposed skin
what is the most disturbing mission yall ever played
for me its honestly the neon tomb
L5 softshell jacket +L5 pants
Definitely either Neon or Valley. I replayed Neon last night but with no sound whatsoever, and it was 100 times creepier.
fr tho
valley is creepy, but neon is slightly more disturbing
as it was related to the 2013 pulse nighclub mass shooting
kinda related
magazine flying into space when doing an emergency reload
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Hmm, funny thing about pepper guns - you can hit floor near suspects to make them cough and surrender
that why it's better than beanbag, and if you get pacifier trait all suspects will surrender in pepper/gas smoke, no need to yell at them for compliance
I js killed myself with a stinger accidentally wtf I didn't know it could kill
You know that irl flashbang can also maim and even kill if you are too close to it
Another failed attempted for S-ranked greased palms...
any advice for that?
do you playing in commander mode?
alright, fuck it, i will try it without armor
Of course, what else?
what your current traits in team?
Kicker, Armorer, Intimidator and Nutritionist
dont
Actually intimidator died
kicker is useless and intimidator not working right now. Grind 2 negotiators and 1 pacifier and keep armorer
I like kicking doors though
well, it's wont help you in S runs
if i use a voiceline replacement mod for Judge, will other players in multiplayer hear it as the replaced voicelines or will they hear it as default Judge?
they will hear only voice they have in VO folder, which is default Judge
only you will hear your modded voice
i dont even look at their traits anymore. i just leave them in spawn and do everything my else
despite what the community says i prefer the non lethal smg. 3 shots in the head of any enemy and spam f while aiming at their head. 90% of the time works every time
i guess the trait where you make suspects more complaint with yells goes well for this
or do it an easier way and pop em in the chest with a beanbag shotgun
works every time for me
iunno personally it doesnt work for me, however reason why smg specifically is because saltydwarf is doing greased palms. if youre getting shot from distance you stun them for a long time with smg if you hit them anywhere
if you fail the mission for any other eason than death, does that fuck up iron man mode/golden watch ?
Thing is bean gun makes them surrender after 1 shot...
like i said, not from my experience...
The beanbag shotgun projectile either dissapears when shot or it instantly makes them surrender, no in between
Then you simply missing
nope. happens point blank too
Yeah, beanbags and tasers don't register when they feel like it at any range
kinda late but there is mod that brings some snipe rifle from game files that is unused
Equip shield, go crouch, still get nipped by bullets anyway. What's the point of shield other than helping you stay alive longer while looking like a fool
the scopes in this game are fucking atrocious
There is a mod called sniper or not that adds a bunch of stuff but i think gunfighter does it aswell
can't deny that, tho i feel like they did something to them because i just equipped x12 on FAL and it didn't look THAT bad on range
oh yeah gunfighter is the name of the mod i used
that did that
wish they havent changed the carriers of the vine map from that terrorist house
Why?
Seemed fine to me when i was testing all guns on shooting range
gunfighter adds a sniper iirc
an m24? i forgot
Hope we get more horror-focused maps I love that shit. For some reason tactical + horror always goes so hard
no need for scopes anyway
I'm happy that the atmosphere and storytelling in RON has improved so much since I last played (pre 1.0)
hide and seek.. last mission for iron man achievements
I do miss having gamemodes to pick for each level for variety's sake but I had really missed the storytelling and background info + briefings that you got in swat 4
not very usable in any missions fov and zoom is weird coupled with game's lightning
yeah they shot themselves in the foot with that stupid change
There was already some good environmental storytelling before but 1.0 added so much
One thing Iāll say I do miss is, didnāt Cherryessa have a nighttime variant in the past?
i still dont really undfersatnd the lore in the volk house. dude was obsessing over his daughter? lol
whoa. haha rekt lad
yeah I just wanted More
Voll is a (NOT SAFE FOR CHILDREN PERSON) and has lust for his daughter, yes
And having briefings really does do a lot.
but wheres the daughter though
Sheās in the house
is that the blondie taht you arrest, usually at the beginning
If I had a nickel for every time a SWAT-themed tactical shooter featured a mass grave of children in a basement I'd have two nickels but its weird that it happened twice
Does this game run on steam deck ? Just interested
thats his wife.
Sheās a civilian. She seems unaware of her fatherās darkest aspects but has a strained relationship
was she in porn or not? coz the porn cinema on the ground looks like the blondie
man just r ead tehe fuckin briefings
On low-medium settings yes
you get pictures of the notable civilians including the wife and daughter
The daughter, no
Ok thank you very much
nah im good
but theyre fun : (
Funny how my pistol malfunctioned and let off about 8 rounds into Amos when I ran into him
i hope we get more unique dialog for reporting particular evidence instead of generic stuff
id be completely shocked if they added anything or updated the game
I do like how (sometimes) your ai swat will react but like theres a implied mass grave of kids and i feel like i shuld tell toc that
wow they have a no-swearing bot in the game that features CP rings
@manic linden it seems Janey Voll was unaware that Amos was involved inā¦.kid stuff so no, she wasnāt in any of his videos. But that shrine in the basement, the picture of him and Janey hanging above a bed where he shoots scenes, and some of Amosās dialogue heavily implies that he wants to uhhā¦yeah
I wish there were more reactions from the operators
Especially in the more shocking scenes
but in that porn cinema room, theres a still photo of a woman coming from the projector. is that the wife or daughter?
i dont wanna be the mf who constantly compares to swat 4 but the scene where you discover its Child Mass Grave is one of the most memorable bits of dialogue ive seen in a game [for me personally
it is most certainly not the daughter
yeah cool
its a blonde woman so it mightbe the wife and it might just be someone random.
was that a thing in swat 4? i cant remember anything about the game
In the cult apartment level yeah
its in the basement of the cult tenement apartments
Really dark moment
youre told in the briefings to expect to find children in the house and u find none.
That pause from TOC when you tell him
your team reacts pretty angrily and Lead (player) reporting it to toc like
'i think its their children'
And I think one of the operators says something like āJesus Christ they were just kidsā¦ā
yeah they really couldve done stuff like that in this one. the only one that comes anywhere close is in hide and seek with naked women. but hte dialogue in this one was very cringe worthy
and toc having to stay professional but clearly sounding perturbed
another cool moment would be when you enter the hospital mission and the news broadcasts your entry alerting the suspects
Kinda wish Valley had more dialogue like that
All we get is a simple āChristā¦ā which is effective but still and something like āJesusā¦do ya think the wife knows?ā
and then lead [in the most angry he ever sounds outside of compliance yells] tells toc to shut the broadcasto ff
twistedn erve when you fidn the ODing kid is pretty good
Honestly I think that scene had some pretty solid dialogue
ive also had judge tell the child hiding in the gas station 'its going to be okay' at one point which i liked. just wish it happened more
i just wanna see mission specific dialog more often
just remembered yet another example from s4
I like some of the humor too like that operator saying āokay boys, time to fess up. Which ones have ya seen?ā In one of Amosās upstairs rooms lol
how ? it was just 3 lines of dialogue of some loser yelling at you and thats it. they leave it off as a cliff hanger in a game like that lmao
when youre at the nightclub gang shootout after a certain point lead tells toc 'we're moving slower than expected and a lot of kids didnt make it out' i liked that bit
I think it gave enough to let you know thereās something seriously wrong with the authority figures here but left enough open to keep you curious for future missions
i enjoy the operators making fun of the streamer's house
which there will be none
dude nex do you even like this game
just stating facts lmao
I mean, they literally have at least two more missions at work
i must be moving too fast in combat because i never get these lol
The home invasion thing or whatever
that line is from swat 4
rly want more smaller scale stuff [once again. im going to comapre to swat 4
though theyve definitely imrpoved on that since my pre 1.0 time
i rememebr every mission feelinug like it should be a lategame one with 1000 suspects in a massive building but now it feels moer like a nice buildup
i should look up a speedrun of the game cant remember a single mission lol. played it when i was way too young it seems
you kow if i ahd two nickels for each time a swat-themed tactical shooter had an east asian family producing illegal firearm modifications in their house id have two nickels
its cheap on GOG and the most popular mods make it feel a lot less dated
worth a try
I recently started playing SWAT 4 and Iām lowkey hyperfixated on Fairfax
Would love some more maps like that in RON. Both in terms of scale and horror atmosphere
i reinstalled last night ready or not got me back on the police shooter kick
though now RON is much more enjoyable for me
i want more missions where im just in some mfs house fr
That opening shot (depending on your point of entry) with that porch and the jack-o-lanterns and that dark magenta night sky. Iconic.
Thatās why Iām excited for the home invasion update
voice acting and music also seem ot have gotten better though nothing will ever top that one crackhead lady from swat 4's gas station screaming all teh time
Bruh I got to that level last night. Her performance is so good lol
i was playing twisted nerve yesterday evening and the music kicked in for a while and it felt like the coolest shit ever
āI DONT THINK SO!!!!ā
I think Valley has my favorite level music
With the weird tea kettle sound and the violins and then the combat beat with the bongos
i think commander mode will be super cool when/if its expanded upon but i also do miss having a preset squad with memorable personalities
officer anthony girard my beloved
I couldāve sworn Iāve heard some distorted whisper on the beat for VOTD but I may just be hearing things
NYPD's most experience yapper
the missions that are linked together also havel ike
similar motifs in their music
theres a video on yt with it ill find rq
Yeah I noticed VOTD had some sounds that were in the Mindjot theme
How do I unlock all the maps. Do I just play through the maps I have unlocked
streamer, mindjot, and votd have similar music
oh and spider
gas station and twisted nerve connected by drug use are similar
and dealership and prot
this was the bit that started playing for a while and it made just clearing empty rooms and stacking up at doors feel like i was in am ovie
shit was so hard
I feel like the scariest level is either Neon Tomb, Carriers of the Vine, or Sins of the Father
I hate that the steam deck version always lags when outdoors
And since I gotta play on low settings, the lighting outside in Cherryessa and the unabomber lodge look really bad lol
my old computer could b
(And no, I donāt have a pc that can run the game lol)
arely run the game
new laptop runs it like a dream
well the old one could run the game decently but once the shooting started i got huge slowdown and stuttering
fuck it im startin an ironman run
lore accurate underfunded department we're only running goggles light army and mk18s 
how do i contact devs? just completed iron man mode and didnt get the fucking watch xD
did you lose a single officer
probably bug/tech support channels in here
What is "Gamma One Experiment"? I doesn't say on the wiki. I feel like we should lead a global effort to make the wiki better with more articles. Also the same with the "1997 213 fire"
And is Judge USIA agent inside the LSPD. It sounds like it on the Gerard Scott wiki.
you mean magnifying scopes?
Becuase dot scopes are great
Alright, another attempt at Greased Palm, here we go
ok, why the hell i cannot equip taser with shield anymore
Just discovered this āwatchmenā guy. Iām glad I just play single player lol
Finally, Greased Palm on S
no one mod addds sniper i already searched em
S run on neon tomb done, one step closer to completing "medal of valor" (13/18).
also am i the only one who thinks its easier to play with noswat?