👮ron-discussion

[raven schooner]

alot of times when I C2 a door, the second it blows up an AI on the other side will just start magdumping my teammates through the smoke while they wait for it to clear

[stone bay]

Unless it’s a security door or gate, it’s getting kicked in

[stone bay]

Or steel doors in general. Those get blown up.

[copper cypress]

I can't tell which ones are security doors or gates.

[stone bay]

On 23MBPS, most of the doors in the second and third-floor atriums are security doors.

[copper cypress]

Oh~ got it

I always feel that kicking the door in this game requires luck lol

If you don't kick it away, you will be attacked immediately.

[humble apex]

yo anyone playing coop? can i join?

[copper cypress]

No

[humble apex]

im not talking to you

[copper cypress]

All right sorry

[limber steppe]

the negotiator perk is actually busted, every suspect I'm facing gives up after one yell

[jolly verge]

yeah it's op if you have at least 2 of them, 50% surrender chance on first yell

[stone bay]

What exactly do I press to go into my tablet? I press tab but I only hold it, and can't it

[jolly verge]

hold tab

[sudden marsh]

it should be tab by holding it

if its not working, check keybinds

[stone bay]

ah, thanks

Also, how do I make my guys follow me? the command menu doesnt seem to have a follow command

[jolly verge]

default key z

in command menu it's "fall in"

[stone bay]

gotcha, ty

Also, why can't I send people to therapy? they are anxious and i cant do much

[raven schooner]

you cant send them until theyre at a higher stress level

[stone bay]

ah, they won't "break down" if they're anxious?

[jolly verge]

nope, anxious is just first stage, when they will be stressed you will be able send them therapy

[raven schooner]

nah, theyll just quit after a mission

if you keep pushing them to crisis level that is

[stone bay]

Ahh alright ty

[raven schooner]

anxious/stressed is fine

[daring flame]

dont need a weak cop on my team anyways. therapy is for pussies.

[stone bay]

real

[pastel wind]

Are the two new weapons going to be free?

[urban walrus]

Yes, only maps and skins will be locked to their respective DLCs

[woven hemlock]

how do I use my mic

[opaque birch]

push v

and talk

its called push to talk

[sleek tiger]

@pure axle W

[slate bear]

she ready on my not till i or

[upbeat heath]

tried to get brixley back alive and i did
but my dumbahh ai team thought it would be a good idea to shoot him thru a hostage

[gloomy isle]

My SWAT AI seems to have a fondness for shooting people in the neck

[somber iron]

mine also just kills

[worn crane]

Give them beanbag guns

And have them use flashbangs on every room

Or gas

[split hedge]

that's what i do seems to work fine

[stone bay]

Odd. Mine have a propensity to aim to wound.

[proven blade]

God, please do not put me into a lobby with a pastor.

how do i chat

it isnt enter

[copper cypress]

They target the middle of the human body. Aiming for the neck may be due to recoil.

[frail quartz]

I didn't think the ai even experienced recoil, I always kind of assumed they just had a straight line to the target their bullets would randomly deviate from within a certain radius to simulate inaccuracy

[echo ember]

why are they releasing DLC on a game in early access.... i feel like that just shouldnt be allowed in any game. Finish the game, then create DLC

[soft narwhal]

the game isnt in early access anymore

they launched their 1.0 december 2023

[vernal bane]

1.0 dropped on game awards no?

[echo ember]

oh yea lol

[soft narwhal]

trailer yeah, but the update dropped week after

[echo ember]

yikes still kinda feels EA tho

i just feel like there isnt really much to do after a few hours of gameplay. I wish they didnt get rid of the different modes of the older maps. Gave more variety

[amber dock]

Atleast they went with the best possible choice for dlc accessibility

only the host needs to have it and the other players can play the maps + the weapons are all free.

[echo ember]

thats true

[amber dock]

the skin won't be but unless it's the best skin in the world, that shouldn't be an issue

[sudden marsh]

yeah i def agree, this does not feel like a 1.0 release at all

[queen mirage]

bring back trailers you cowards

[gleaming fable]

mpx having a noticibly high recoil compared to assault rifles

[crude prism]

mpx is really fun and cool and balanced well

👍

[gleaming fable]

[crude prism]

(it's funny because it got changed with 1.0 for no reason and got significantly worse)

[gleaming fable]

[humble mauve]

more guns recoil should be like the mpx

in my opinion

[gleaming fable]

tru but not the smgs.

[worn crane]

Is it bad?

I’ve never used the MPX since I’m an MP5 man

[gleaming fable]

at least in my end, mpx has higher recoil than most assault rifles and hits like shit.

[civic salmon]

Yo guys I just finished some of the father and it and like 1 suspect on the map….is that normal or a bug?

[worn crane]

They’re sneaky

[civic salmon]

No I finished the mission and the map literally one had 1 suspect…

[worn crane]

Never had that

[gleaming fable]

gotta be a bug.

meanwhile me and the homies running a 30 ai enemy mod on maps

[acoustic ridge]

mp7 has less recoil better armor pen smaller and bigger mag
mpx kinda sucks compared to other smgs

[gleaming fable]

mp7 based

[lavish jasper]

Got RON, got it to run over 2 fps suprisingly, beat gas station and crypto mine with ease, get lazered on the meth house

Yippee!!!

Shit now looks like ps2 graphics and I still only get 15 frames

[thorn summit]

what guns run .300?

[jolly verge]

arn-18, mcx and lvar

[stone bay]

I am so dumb, was done with all objectives of twisted nerve except the bring order to chaos and the arrest 2 suspects one, met an enemy, decided to shoot her in the legs and she killed me

[stone bay]

is there any helmet Night Visions/therms? I hate not being able to see

[proven blade]

WHAT THE FUCK AI

WHY WOULDNT THEY BREACH

I DIED BECAUSE OF THAT

[worn crane]

Yes there’s night vision. It’s under where you equip gas masks, flash goggles etc

[stone bay]

ah gotcha tysm, now twisted nerves might not make me break my eyes

[molten wren]

Are NVGs just for player sight? Like you can't own the night cause the AI has magic daylight vision no matter the lighting?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[stone bay]

Should I use the GPNVGs? seems like theyd be better

[worn crane]

There’s a marginal difference in game

[stone bay]

ah, alr ty

[copper cypress]

Are negotiators useful for suspects with high morale?

If the suspect is a terrorist/militant of that type.

[worn crane]

I’m actually not sure

But I think also if they’re incapacitated or taken by surprise also affects that

[jolly verge]

Yes, negotiator give you % chance that first yell to suspect will make him surrender, no matter what morale they have

[copper cypress]

Only the first yell?

[jolly verge]

yeap

for every suspect

[copper cypress]

Okay

Can Armorer allow Kevlar-wearing players and AI to have the defense of steel plates or ceramics?

[jolly verge]

Nope, armorer just increase damage reduction by 5% and durability for ceramic and helmets by 50%
Kevlar 50% > 55%
Steel 70% > 75%
Ceramic still have 100%, but if broken it's will be 40% > 45%
So it's either ceramic or steel, kevlar is bad

[copper cypress]

Oh~

Can effects be stacked?

[jolly verge]

in most cases ceramic for swat ai is the best choice

No, armorer don't stack

[copper cypress]

Which skills can be stacked?

[jolly verge]

But nutritionist do stacks

it's increase swat ai health by 25/30/33/35%

from 250 to 312.5/325/332.5/337.5

not working for player

[copper cypress]

Only this one?

[jolly verge]

Breacher, moral officer, negotiator, pacifier, paramedic, S.B.A.G.S. and veteran, they all stack

Intimidator and riot control stacks too but they don't work right now

[copper cypress]

Got it.

[unreal trail]

Blasting some lofi and playing the neon tomb mission is so damn calming ngl

[copper cypress]

Does peeking into a door and then closing it mean that the door can definitely be kicked open?

[jolly verge]

yeap

but if you have red right leg you won't be able to open it with kick

only with kicker trait

[copper cypress]

Oh~

Will SWAT Ai be unable to kick the door if its leg is injured?

[jolly verge]

they can't have injures and bleeding

[copper cypress]

But I saw wounds on their arms or legs.

[jolly verge]

well it's just decals from bullets

[copper cypress]

All right @@

[proven blade]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art any idea on where the last guy is?

[muted star]

Might be faking dead somewhere

[proven blade]

really?

I'll have to check the north and south wing all over again

[raven schooner]

just gotta back clear everything

[proven blade]

oh well guess i'll start with 1S

i mean 1N

found another guy on 3N, not fulfilled still

[stone bay]

God my entire crew is stressed

[proven blade]

found the last guy

[stone bay]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message what exactly should I do?

[proven blade]

therapy and replace

[copper cypress]

Will breaking the door trigger a suspect to patrol a wider area than just opening the door?

[stone bay]

I cant replace em tho, I dont have any guys that arent stressed

[proven blade]

umh yes you do

davis and karlton

[stone bay]

theyre already in

how exactly do I remove the two guys

Alright figured it out but therapy is full, How do I remove the last dude

[proven blade]

wait there is multiple yellow containers with spiders in hokan

[raven schooner]

yeah

[proven blade]

damn

[raven schooner]

gotta check em all

[stone bay]

Also what does #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message mean

[jolly verge]

number of skins for item

[stone bay]

ohhh alr tysm

Ok I can not figure out how to make my stressed guys go off duty

[raven schooner]

you can only send them once they hit high stress

anxious or stressed officers can go on another mission

[stone bay]

oh, alr tysm

[frail quartz]

I mean, how would you feel if your boss made you witness your comrades and innocent people dying and then fired you for getting upset about it?

[stone bay]

Nono not fire, like, make them not come on the mission with me

[frail quartz]

Oh, I misunderstood

[opaque birch]

I would shoot up the lspd

[frail quartz]

I see you're taking the "Gerald was based" approach

[opaque birch]

Yes he was

[stone bay]

American?

[opaque birch]

no lol

[distant plover]

Hey guys.
In the last update, we are told that the oncoming DLC will have 2 exclusive weapons.
On top of that it also says that the DLC will come along side a free update for everyone which also includes some new weapons free for everybody

So we’ll have a total of at least 4 new guns by the release of the DLC….am I reading this correctly?

[opaque birch]

Yeah

Unless void is lying but by the way they said it yes

[frail quartz]

What do we mean 2 exclusive weapon, I thought all the new guns were free

[amber dock]

all guns released for dlc are free

[muted star]

My guess it's gonna be skins for a free weapons

[amber dock]

the only thing truly exclusive to dlc people is the uniform/skin

people without the dlc can play dlc levels if the host has it.

which is based

[earnest comet]

Ironman run ended bc my game stuttered really bad as I was moving through a doorway into uncleared space on Valley of the Dolls (not RoN’s fault, I just have a shitty computer)

[terse terrace]

Bro how do you beat The Spider mission 😭

I literally cant seem to beat it

[sudden marsh]

stutter is mainly due to the game, its not really due to components

[earnest comet]

I go through the store and clear out the secondary structure and then have either blue or red wedge each exterior threshold (except for the street entrance) while the other team holds security on the door to brixleys officer and I hold security on the exterior stairs. I leave the second team stacked on the door and have the wedgie boys go up on the roof (there’s usually a dude up there) and once that’s dealt with we wedge the interior roof access and make entry through brixleys office door. From there it’s just maintaining some form of proper cqb.

[sudden marsh]

if u really had that bad of a computer why would you Pla RoN in the first place?

and this games notorious for bad optimization anyway

[earnest comet]

bc I’m silly

I’m playing on the cheapest shadow PC subscription on my MacBook Air

[atomic wyvern]

🥲

[stone bay]

is there any way to get more than 4 guys? (mods or no mods) I wanna do a funni

[atomic wyvern]

RoN broke my steam deck

[earnest comet]

Swat AI or other players?

[stone bay]

AI preferably

[earnest comet]

There’s mods that let you have bigger multiplayer lobbies I think

idk about increasing the SWAT AI

[stable kernel]

SWAT AI is limited to 4.

[stone bay]

rip

[earnest comet]

We should be able to have the civilians pick up dropped guns and get in the stack with the SWAT AI

[ionic cedar]

nothing bad with having civilians with no swat training in your team

[earnest comet]

(Not actually bc instinctually you see someone with a gun who isn’t swat and classify them as hostile)

I think there’s a voice line for one of the civvies that goes like “gimme a gun I can help”

[stone bay]

is killing civs a nono thing? I wanna just blast in the spiders mission, can NOT be bothered with it

[earnest comet]

your friendly AI will actually help you commit war crimes

[ionic cedar]

killing civs is a big nono and can get you killed by other swat if you have ai i think

oh wait

[stone bay]

:>

[earnest comet]

aw man

[ionic cedar]

they will?

[stone bay]

How exactly do I perform the war crimes

[ionic cedar]

accidentally killed one once and i think i got a pretty big penalty for it

[stone bay]

I do not have enough ammo for the war crimes

BTW is ROF that low in this game or does the ammo just restock whole ingame or something

[ionic cedar]

i dotn remember very well

[earnest comet]

Once you do like a major ROE violation the game instantly reduces your health to like one hit for literally anything and your SWAT AI can only be ordered to hunt you down and kill you

They’ll nail you from across the map too as long as they have a line of sight

[stone bay]

Can I commit war crimes against my own swat

the Geneva to do list coming next update

[earnest comet]

You can get one but then the others aimbot you instantly

[ionic cedar]

dont they have like 100% accuracy when in that mode

[earnest comet]

Even if you remove all their ammo in the lockers the game still gives them ammunition

[earnest comet]

Pretty much yeah

[stone bay]

awh man

I'm surprised I didn't make em kill me yet, I've killed idk how mant civilians thinking they're nono guys

[earnest comet]

they also return fire to the exact point you’re shooting from so if you try to wall bang them they wall bang you right back

Ive managed to kill them by using the SA-58 while they all had beanbag shotguns bc the beanbags move slow enough for you to avoid them if you’re far enough away

If you kill one the others become literally invincible to any sort of damage except dismemberment

[stone bay]

💀

[earnest comet]

I had clips of me attempting it on a modded training map before I deleted MedalTV

Idk it was quite a difficult task especially when they beam you through a wall as soon as they take any damage from you

[terse terrace]

I just beat it

[earnest comet]

Congrats!

[terse terrace]

Thank you

Now I’m at the next mission and I got blown up the second I opened a door

[earnest comet]

Oh

Obsession?

I’m pretty sure that’s one of the most heavily trapped maps in the game so I’d recommend peeking or mirroring (or having your team do those things) literally every single door before you open it

[terse terrace]

Yes

[earnest comet]

Getting ding dong ditched by a grenade trap on Sullivans Slope is kind of a rite of passage lol

[terse terrace]

How do you even know if there’s a trap

[earnest comet]

There’s a thin wire close to the ground

If your teammate mirrors it they’ll tell you “trap” or something else to indicate that the threshold is not safe to move through

[terse terrace]

How would you disable the trap though

[earnest comet]

You crouch by the peeked door and a prompt will come up to hold f and you’ll bring the multitool up and snip the wire

Be very careful if you’re doing it yourself bc it’s really easy to bump the door just a little too far open if you get too close

I usually have an AI teammate do it

[stone bay]

Just C2 every door from a same distance

[earnest comet]

that’s also a viable tactic

Definitely a lot more entertaining lmaoo

[terse terrace]

Oh

[terse terrace]

How do you even let them do that

[earnest comet]

Once the door is peeked and you see that there’s a trap you can middle mouse click to bring up the command menu and it should be an option

[raven schooner]

bring a mirror on an ai

[terse terrace]

Oh

[raven schooner]

have them check every door, theyll always see if theres a trap or not and tell you if theres an enemy through the door

then you can tell them to disarm it

[earnest comet]

This^

[raven schooner]

as far as i know the suspects cant tell when a teammate is disarming a trap so it wont cause them to move around or rush the door

[terse terrace]

Oh yeah I let them mirror and now it shows “disarm trap”

[ionic cedar]

i was at the first place with booby traps and did this at like near the end of the mission

[earnest comet]

[raven schooner]

if you peek it yourself the ai might shoot through the gap so its safer to have your teammates do it

[terse terrace]

This game is scary

[earnest comet]

I’ve also had the misfortune of stepping on Mr. Scott as he lay in his leaf blanket at the bottom of the second/third floor staircase

[raven schooner]

sorry what

he lays down and hides?

[earnest comet]

Yup

[raven schooner]

what the fuck

ive only ever seen him crawl through the vents

[earnest comet]

It’s only happened the once but I literally didn’t even look twice at it I thought it was just clutter

[mighty oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805856140432506910/1197651409131294801/911pilots.gif

[earnest comet]

That was the first time I’d ever played the mission too I jumped out of my seat

[terse terrace]

Oh I already completed the obsession mission

That was easy

[acoustic ridge]

hes vietnamese

[carmine cairn]

what are the chances of an update this tuesday you guys think?

[sudden marsh]

zero

[lost coyote]

mfw im having more trouble with Carriers of the Vine than any other mission

[frail quartz]

The newsletter says it was an "Early preview" so we still have a long ways to go

[astral lotus]

pro tip: watch the tower

i didnt know there was a tower and was constantly wondering where i was being shot from when i went out to the garden

[lost coyote]

i keep doing that but some mf always manages to annihilate me with some stupid automatic rifle yet they can shrug off whatever i throw at them

[astral lotus]

take the FAL or a .300 gun

if u want some hard hitting stuff

[lost coyote]

im always taking an MCX too but it doesnt really change anything

[astral lotus]

you shouldnt be having problems with the MCX as long as you use AP rounds

[lost coyote]

which i am using

(they still do barely anything for me)

i can do literally every other mission just fine

but that one seems to have the difficulty jacked up to 9,000,000

[opaque birch]

Use the sa58

[twilit rampart]

Tactical uwu

[proven blade]

why is mods broken

it keeps saying subscription failure

[prime mural]

My pro tip is wedge the whole map ezpz

Then just clear the house

[acoustic ridge]

shotgun solves all problems

[teal nexus]

Mfw I put a 6 inch wide hole in a suspects face

(He can no longer be identified)

[molten wren]

just approach it slowly and look at the wire not the trap, if you have the indicators on it will tell you that you can cut it even when standing.

[gloomy isle]

Besides low fire rate and magazine capacity, the buckshot shotguns’ drawback are they’re too lethal

They gore enemies and start bleeding frequently meaning they rarely incapacitate

A weapon to annihilate, not one if you care for objectives

Even against body armor enemies, you just need a bullet to hit their head or neck

[acoustic ridge]

dont use a choke and share the buckshot with everyone else

[molten wren]

they're great for room clearing and fucking up suspects on maps you really can't be bothered to individually handcuff after a fight.

when they're down, they're down and no need to hassle around trying to tie their corpses or incapacitated bodies up.

[gloomy isle]

Or suspects you want to remove faces, hands, and legs on

[molten wren]

as weird as this sounds but I found great use for them in neon tomb where there's alot of them and I can't be bothered to cross the map and cuff their bodies so a 12ga on a choke taking out their limbs I can be 100% sure they're not getting back up and flank me.

I just corner qadmah with flashbangs or rapid fire an entire pistol's worth of ammo on them.

[molten wren]

yea that, the neat use I got for them is taking out people I want 100% sure to be dead which are non-mission obj. suspects. I mean I've already s-ranked all of my missions so no use trying to get that s-rank just getting a faster time or to have fun.

[sharp swan]

i room clear with the 7.62 gun

i forgot what its called, the big one

sa-58?

pretty sure in real life the sa-58 is a poorly designed gun

[molten wren]

yea the SA-58

[wanton aurora]

Lol you'll start a war with that kind of comment

[ionic gale]

Hrlo

[ionic gale]

…

I guess everyone has an opinion lol

I use it sometimes ig

What do you exactly mean by poorly designed?

[tribal basalt]

I feel like we could use more gore, like i really want to just blow a bowling ball sized hole through a civilian

[molten wren]

Discord bot made my message with a swear word deleted for some rule so sorry for the ghost ping anyways saying my point again

I think its about taking a battle rifle and cutting the barrel which made for a huge recoil and having a flashbang go off everytime you shot it.

[tacit gull]

I honestly think the gore is already a bit overdone and cartoony, shooting someone in the head looks like you caved his face in rather than blew through him with pellets

[tribal basalt]

I just really want to make everyone civilian/officer and suspect have a closed casket funeral

[molten wren]

The lack of exit wound gore is the cause for that thought for me.

[tacit gull]

That aswell

Sure, some subtle additions like blood splatters on exit wounds and better bloodpools would be nice but i'd say gore is about fine where it is

[tribal basalt]

It also seems like the ai teammates become invincible after i kill one

[molten wren]

Thats intended if you kill a complying civilian

Or suspect

[tribal basalt]

Tragic

[tacit gull]

They do, which is kind of dumb imo

You can blow off their limbs with a shotgun and they'll keep going

[tribal basalt]

I think we should be able to make suspects into just torsos

Cos they always keep their upper arm, thigh and head

[patent path]

Hi all, I thought I s ranked everything on single player. Is there a way to see which missions I s ranked on single player?

[tacit gull]

No

[patent path]

damm ok

[tacit gull]

Well

You could go into a level and die

But that's about it

[patent path]

I'll go one by one then easiest to hardest to confirm.

[tribal basalt]

Blow a civilians head off then die to your ai teammates

[patent path]

Working on that now

[patent path]

Says I’ve S ranked everything as “personal best” so what gives?

[molten wren]

I think you didn't really get the full score maybe there's some deduction on some map

also how do you get the fool achievement like get knocked out by voll's wife?

[patent path]

Hmm ok

Good thought

[daring horizon]

Yo so i just unlcoked medic for hall how do i know which one is the hall since they are named alpha? Or where i turn it on?

[tacit gull]

Did you do it in multiplayer?

[tacit gull]

What?

[daring horizon]

?

[tacit gull]

I dont understand the question

[daring horizon]

Nvm

[daring horizon]

bruh

[patent path]

No should be all in single player

Unlocked all the tattoos too

[tacit gull]

That's weird

How much progress do you have on the achiv?

[lavish jasper]

I dont like twisted nerve very much

[median shadow]

y?

[lavish jasper]

Cool concept but its very laggy and i spend a while trying to find some random guy who keeps moving around a bunch at the end

[median shadow]

use door wedges to control map flow, turn the whole thing into one long corridoer

[lavish jasper]

Cool, thanks

[median shadow]

yeah, like, off by heart, i go to the left house, covered with the tent, put a wedge in the front door, then the two doors on the side of the house, then go clockwise to the left house, wedge the front door, go clockwise around, wedge the two back doors, wedge the shed door, then wedge the tent's back door, before returning to the shed, going up the stairs, and entering the burned out building to start clearing the tunnels

[viral bone]

balaclavas, when ?

[tacit gull]

Possibly next update

[lost inlet]

could be never

[median shadow]

give server browser + auto mod download instead plz

[woeful egret]

is there any way to disable the version info in the top right corner?

shits buggin me

[tacit gull]

There's a mod called in-game menu that disables it

[woeful egret]

yeah I saw that, nothing in vanilla still?

[tacit gull]

No, because the game is still in alpha

[woeful egret]

cool I'll just download the mod

trying to do my iron man run with 0 HUD whatsoever

[tacit gull]

Not like the hud tells you much

[woeful egret]

I just like the bare screen look

[tacit gull]

Just keep in mind that it'll show a red line of text when you finish missions if you have IGM

[woeful egret]

ah I already have a couple QoL mods that's no wokkas

I already see the red text

[stone stump]

oh no! a warning that does absolutely nothing

[tacit gull]

I remember when it did do something

[stuck hornet]

Has there been any notice of a timeline for the home invasion DLC?

Is there also a link to the roadmap

[stone stump]

#announcements

[copper cypress]

Would a bullet hitting a civilian wearing a bomb vest cause an explosion?

[molten wren]

Yes

[lost inlet]

always

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[lost inlet]

yep somehow someway the bullet make the civi with bomb vest always explode

[brave scroll]

the solution to the bomb vests is called doing an Op Andromeda and putting 11 rounds into whoever has one

[noble pasture]

I feel like this game shouldnt have dlc's

Not when they blatantly used AI art in the levels of base game

[stone bay]

100%. VOID Interactive is on all the drugs if they thought realeasing DLC in the near future was in any way a good idea.

[noble pasture]

Fixing the game is a higher priority

[copper cypress]

How much can a single hit on a suspect or civilian using melee reduce morale?

[jolly verge]

melee with pistols, grenades and gadgets deal 0.5 morale damage, with primary weapons and long tactical - 1.0

[stark hollow]

i imagine its to do with the resources they have available being applicable to creating DLC rather than sitting around doing nothing until the game is in the best possible state

[crude prism]

the issue with reducing suspect morale via melee is that they love to flee or melee back instead of surrender even though they SHOULD be at 0 morale

[stark hollow]

level designers cant fix AI, so they might as well work on maps in the meantime while the areas that need improvement can be improved upon

[crude prism]

This makes no sense, Void is one dude in a trench coat and a bunch of hats

[languid inlet]

Let them push out some dlcs the game has zero replayability

[bold sky]

it has some but you have to mod

this game issue is that it could take an approach more like swat sef

[crude prism]

Hot take of the day: no you don't need to be able to replay the game infinite times

[bold sky]

base swat game sucks but sef is a whole different game

and yeah you prolly cant expect replayability out of everything the quality of your playtime is more important

[languid inlet]

Not even then mate idc about mods but once you’ve done ironman and s-tiers or even hunting all the achievements the game is completely done

And I love the game it’s just repetitive at some point

[crude prism]

"when you complete the game, the game is complete"

[bold sky]

honestly dont know what i can even say about repetition bc game content is only so much

[languid inlet]

Yes but that’s what I hate the game is so good that I crave for more content

[bold sky]

and this is like the 4th year i own this game or something and i still play it

i dont like play it everyday like i used to

[velvet sierra]

anyway i can give my officers balaclavas?

[stone bay]

There are a couple mods on Nexus

[velvet sierra]

also, did they change the back of the officers vest? my skin mods would normally have the units emblem on the back of the vest but now its just a backpack that says "police"

[cold hare]

I am sorry for asking if it was already answered or if its being worked on rn:
Do the devs plan on making presets for Uniform Customization just like Loadouts?

During the Adams Update (Even if it was limited.) we could actually save uniforms in our loadout presets so, I was wondering if something similar would occur in the future.

[pearl shuttle]

Hot take: I find RoN as replayable as SWAT 3 and 4

[crude prism]

erm are you talking smack on le-holy-games?

[pearl shuttle]

I replay both quite a bit

It's funny how simple things such as changing spawn locations can do so much for a game lmao

[crude prism]

real and true

[ionic cedar]

id like for my shield guy to not leave us while i order him to clear the room

[frail quartz]

They literally said in the newsletter that they're working on fixing the game at the same time as making the DLC

[noble pasture]

And putting more AI art in the game?

Devs are aware steam has a no AI art rule right?

[frail quartz]

Yeah probably

[daring flame]

the game doesnt need paid dlc

[umbral oar]

wat

no game needs dlc

[crude prism]

the only AI art that matters is the weird ass preview pic they use for hospital

actually out of place vs the appropriate decorations for cat ears mcgee

[hexed escarp]

what preview pic

the one that shows up when u select relapse ingame?

[crude prism]

ye

[hexed escarp]

doesnt look ai generated

[crude prism]

give the building in the background a look

it's nonsense

[hexed escarp]

i dont see how, its just a generic square room with a hallway to the left

[grim hound]

The more we play and clear the map. The enemies getting more aggresive???

[crude prism]

it's the pic that looks like a helicopter photo of the whole complex, not the actual map

I want to say it's the one on the tablet when you look at the briefing stuff (?)

[hexed escarp]

oh i thought u were talking about the picture on the actual tab in mission select

[crude prism]

this one #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[hexed escarp]

o yea true that is weird

[crude prism]

it's really weird because they could've easily taken a picture of the actual hospital they modeled and then touch it up with postfx like they do for every other map lol

there's an easily noticeable tangible difference between the building in the preview and what we see in-game

(vs all the babies whining about le-ai-art in the trendy dude-bro terminally online weird room)

[hexed escarp]

tbh i personally never really look at the map renders for long enough to care

[crude prism]

As you go through the mission, your actions will raise the stress level of those who hear you.

Gunshots, explosives, yelling, all of these stress out people nearby. So generally, the more aggressive you are, the more hostile and alert the map will be

[grim hound]

I mean the general level. When I first play on the streamer map for example. The enemies are passive. But now it's super aggressive. In place like Mindjot, the enemies usually open the main door like 2 or 3 of them.

[hexed escarp]

i just realized the pizza delivery car on the weeb map is floating off the ground by like a few centimeters

mortified... witchcraft in my tacticool game...

[crude prism]

Haha the front door of Mindjot is basically just a coincidence, they're not actually mad at you. Multiple spawns in the front room (one right in front of the door)

They're just roaming

[grim hound]

Basically, they're more aggressive now. In all map. They often push instead wandering around. I check I have no mod that increase difficulty.

uh. let me post it on ron media

[hexed escarp]

i forgot what the requirements are for way out west, do you have to do it solo?

or can you do with ai team

[crude prism]

You can do it with the AI team, the achievement seems "bugged" or inconsistent in some ways

I had to do it like 4 times before it worked

[hexed escarp]

i attempted it like 6 times with a friend before and we didnt get it when we succeeded

very sad

[crude prism]

no achievements in coop

[hexed escarp]

wtf y

[crude prism]

yeah

gotta do it in commander or practice

[hexed escarp]

i wanna try to 100% the game but the one thing stopping me is the hanged man achievement 😭

it'd take my ass ages to do it

[stone bay]

is there anyway to make the screen look like a circle like in the videos

[muted star]

Reshade

[stone bay]

?

[muted star]

Download a reshade

[opaque birch]

Recorded Or Not Look it up on Nexus

And follow what the readme says

[stone bay]

is it on mod io at all

[muted star]

don't use modio

[stone bay]

im only allowed to use modio

[muted star]

removing mods is troublesome there

[muted star]

why tho

[stone bay]

idk

[muted star]

Use Nexus or use manual download on modio

[stone bay]

kk

why manually downlaod

[muted star]

Cause unsubscribing mods doesn't work most of the time

[hexed escarp]

is there a way to disable the mission debrief thing at the top right in the lobby

[frail quartz]

Page up

[hexed escarp]

that just makes it smaller, i mean get rid of the little bar thats there entirely

[noble pasture]

I am gonna go for 100% but will use mods

Vanilla suspect AI isnt fun to go against

Saw a clip as soon as 1.0 dropped that a suspect insta killed the player the milisecond a pixel showed up

[earnest comet]

I like jugs AI mod. Also I love that I can dead check a dude thrice and he still like “AGHHH SAVE MEEE”

Have to resort to goring their head so they stop whining smh (I’m being pulled off active duty and put in a psychiatric institution)

[stone bay]

jugs ai mod is very well done but some of the enemies seem a little too accurate for what they are

[muted star]

Astrals ai is pretty good too

[stone bay]

crackheads should not be able to hit me with a pistol from 30+ meters

[earnest comet]

true. I just really enjoy the challenge presented by their newfound mobility across the map.

being flanked is exhilarating

[stone bay]

yeah the stuff like that is super cool

[stone bay]

100%. If they're bitching, they get bullets until they stop.

[astral warren]

I think the issue is that the suspect's main ability to be lethal in this game comes from their aiming skill, when it's a tactical shooter, and not call of duty. It feels like they're almost playing a different game than you, sometimes, with how quickly they can move while shooting accurately. I don't think there's been a single time where a suspect has successfully misled or tricked me tactically, by either repositioning after breaking LOS, using a hiding spot to slip by when I'm clearing a room, or, a feature I would personally enjoy seeing, is a suspect fleeing from you, as a scared civvie would, only to pull a gun once LOS is broken, and perhaps aim it at the player's last known position to make approaching them from the same route dangerous and risky.

[earnest comet]

Get this smart person a “quote of the day” award

[astral warren]

Not a man but ty 😳

[crude prism]

funny enough that's already a thing but it's literally set to 0% chance except for 213 Park

devs trolling playerbase

[astral warren]

Why is every good idea I have in the game, but it's disabled or so rare it may as well not be implemented?

This has to be solely to piss me off and nothing else, I am convinced.

VOID is smelly.

[stone bay]

Does the mission after The Spider (something something obsession) have booby traps?

[crude prism]

maybe

[stone bay]

Yes

[stable hedge]

Why is a civil still playing hostage animation after killing the suspect holding her?

[stone bay]

I've had the same thing happen

[stable hedge]

kinda annoying cause I cant do anything with her

[daring flame]

yeah this has been in the game since early access

but we’re getting dlc!!!!!!!!!!

[stable hedge]

yeesssssss

[stone bay]

tbh I usually just shoot them

[stone bay]

how exactly do I avoid them, I've died lile twice to em

[earnest comet]

Perhaps one or two

[stone bay]

Equip one of your guys with a mirrorgun and have him check the door

aaaahh right

tune whay exactly do I do to boom boom the booby trap without it boom booming me

[earnest comet]

[astral warren]

You don't need a mirrorgun, just peak the door and you can cut the cable with the multitool.

Just only peak doors and you'll never blow up so long as you don't walk into them and push them open.

Also suspects sometimes like to run into them so the mirror gun is definitely preferred.

[earnest comet]

If I’m ever petty at my SWAT AI for telling me to move, l’ll have them stack and c2 a door I know has a trap on it

[stone bay]

suspects can't run if they're dead

[stone bay]

C2?

[earnest comet]

Breach charge

[stone bay]

Oh, I thought that was C4 lmao

[earnest comet]

I think it’s called or referred to in the voice lines as C2

[astral warren]

C2 is very good for getting compliance through either knocking them unconscious or scaring the shit and piss out of them.

Also can we please calm down with the amount of visual obstruction post processing effects can cause, this is ridiculous: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2494506138522936952/49D7E1000ED28D02EDE2F7332FEB869BECD743D6/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

This is what you see from the civvie's POV: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2494506138522937446/00F884493F692E8957CD1111CBB754E4D6518ED5/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

He has a BRIGHT RED SHIRT and you can still BARELY tell he's there.

Silliness.

[umbral oar]

one or two

[urban walrus]

Gruntr said that it was made using Photoshop new tools, and they have a better one, but it makes the game very laggy and takes forever to open the map screen. https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1bsjeao/comment/kxilgay/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[astral warren]

The hospital preview pic is like dall-e 1 tier lmao

It looks like a garry's mod sandbox map structure

[crude prism]

certified overdramatic lighting

no you see you're next to a burning building so there's tons of shit in the air

[crude prism]

jejjin

[oak copper]

when dlc?

[sudden marsh]

when they optimize the game (guess when that is)

[oak copper]

when pvp?

[urban walrus]

From now to June 20th

[oak copper]

ok, ill be back on a month, thx

[cold compass]

Hey guys, I was just wondering if the game would be available on GOG.com one day?

[frail quartz]

I feel like more consistent previews in general would be nice, it's weird how some of the previews are a Bird's-eye view while others focus on a very specific part of the map

[river bluff]

hey for the ready or not here I come bundle
is there any way to select the mode in any other submod or within the mod's posibilities? or to select which part of it you want to play you have to load/unload them separatedly?

[frail quartz]

If you don't have a mod manager, yes, you'll have to manually add and remove paks to change the mode & difficulty

[river bluff]

Vortex mod, indeed

but like, all the Paks separatedly?

[frail quartz]

There's a "Varient" function when you double click a mod that you can use to differentiate different versions of the same file, they should automatically stack together once you exit and reopen the application

[acoustic ridge]

is .300 or 5.56 better against armor

[proven blade]

hi

[stone bay]

.300 which doesnt really make sense

[proven blade]

how do i use 7zip for nexus mods

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

im trying to get a rar to be a pak

[stone bay]

you open the zip up

or the rar in this case

and the .pak is inside

[proven blade]

ok

how do i extract it

@stone bay

[stone bay]

i just told you

[proven blade]

how do i open the rar

[stone bay]

You need to download a program like WinRAR or 7-Zip

[proven blade]

I have 7-zip i just said that lol

it just shows this though #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[stone bay]

so double click it to open it lol

[proven blade]

oh my god do you not understand anything im saying

7-Zip isn't allowing me to use 7-Zip

[stone bay]

then dont use 7zip and use winrar

[proven blade]

i dont trust winrar

[stone bay]

then i guess youre out of luck

[proven blade]

ill use it i suppose

[ashen talon]

wait, doesn't windows 10 already have the tools needed to open archive files?

also hello again, i keep appearing and dipping for months at a time

[stone bay]

yes but not native support for rars

[tawny scroll]

Guys whats the world record for speedrunning commander mode

i started again yesterday but using my gwot loadouts and i gotta say, im pretty happy with my team’s status being content on most of the missions ive finished so far (left off at kawayu yesterday and just finished greased palms today)

[ashen talon]

i've been out of the loop and i last played in early february, have there been any updates that further optimized the game?

[frail quartz]

They revamped the LOD models, so that might help

[ashen talon]

zamn, i need to try out the game again one of these days to see if i can run it more smoothly

[tawny scroll]

0< IDK HOW TF EVERYONE IS CONTENT AFTER GETTING SHOT
•—• ill take it doe

[frail quartz]

They're built different

What, do you not microdose bullets to build a tolerance to them?

[tawny scroll]

🤨

Ive only gotten my team on anxious in twisted nerve and mindjot

ANXIOUS

😀😀😀 no retries and deaths yet

[ashen talon]

the body produces adrenaline, if the situation is extremely intense you don't feel the pain, you need to thoroughly check if you've been shot

[tawny scroll]

🧠🧠🧠

ESAPI FTW

[ashen talon]

also as far as i know getting shot in a body plate feels like you've been hit by a blunt object

[tawny scroll]

aye

[ashen talon]

thank god i never got shot but if anyone wants to correct me i don't mind

[tawny scroll]

one of my guys were actually injured including me on my greased palms run 20 mins ago and everyone ended up feeling content somehow 🤨🤨🤨

EKSPLAEN

[ashen talon]

bro

[tawny scroll]

😳 what bro

[ashen talon]

does the game in general run slower on AMD gpus?

or am i not optimizing my settings properly?

[tawny scroll]

not sure

WHERE THE TECHS AT CUH HELP MY G HERE

[molten wren]

It works 60fps on almost all maps(carrier of the vines only exclusion) at a custom mid-low settings for me.

RX 580 2048sp(GPU) & R5 3500X(CPU) + 16gb ram

As for input lag I don't really feel any

[ashen talon]

i just entered the game to see my settings

i stutter even in the police station

[molten wren]

You can check your settings at the main menu's settings

[ashen talon]

high preset, the frame limit is disabled but i don't see my FPS go above 60

[molten wren]

Must be vsync

Idk try setting your frame limit at 100fps or smthn

[ashen talon]

enabled it, maxed it at 144, both my Radeon overlay and steam FPS counter show 60

[molten wren]

Nah I thought like unlimited fps caused like stutters cause before the optimization hotfix that was the case for me

Oh also one thing do you run dx11 or dx12

[ashen talon]

12

[molten wren]

I stutter alot despite different graphical changes on dx12

[ashen talon]

afaik DX12 is for newer hardware

[molten wren]

Well I'm running an RX 580 so yeah it sits right at home for me to run dx11

Wait I forgot to ask what your gpu is my b

[ashen talon]

RX 6700 XT

[molten wren]

Oh shit w8 let me ask my friend about it, he should be close with like an RX 6600 but he runs similarly to my settings at dx11.

[ashen talon]

hold up

the frame limiter, despite not going over 60 it doesn't stutter that much anymore

[molten wren]

Just as I thought, my friend and I had similar problems before and the stutters was solved by frame limiting higher than 60 even if your settings can't run over 60fps

[ashen talon]

this is the most ghetto fix i can think of, and i say ghetto because i fixed my stutters in league years ago this way

[molten wren]

LMAOOOO

[chrome tinsel]

Hello. I tried to join my friend but it says we need the same mods running. But we do have the same mods. Anyone know a fix?

[ashen talon]

double check if all of the mods are enabled

or if the mods are up to date

[sudden marsh]

dx11 brings worser performance than dx12, and i tested that theory too
im running a RTX 4080

not to say there isnt worser stutter in dx12, tho its all due to lack of shader precompilation

[molten wren]

Pick your poison type

Worse performance or stutters.

[sudden marsh]

if only VOID truly prioritized the performance in this game

its all a fever dream

[ashen talon]

GPUs are more optimized for their own DX versions as far as i know, lower end hardware should have an easier time running DX11 instead

[sudden marsh]

depends, how low end are we talking? the 2080 also struggles AFAIK

[ashen talon]

i got a 5600X, 32 GB of RAM and an RX 6700 XT, in my case it should be DX12, RX 6600 should be DX12 as well, but RX570 should be DX11

[ashen talon]

old, maybe 10 series, idk about 20 series, and 30 series onwards should be 12

also

[chrome tinsel]

My friend uninstalled some mods and when he tries to install them back, it won't let him. Any fix?

[ashen talon]

wtf is Nvidia reflex and why does it re-enable itself whenever i disable it?
i'm on AMD gpus idk if Nvidia Reflex will do anything good

[molten wren]

Yea that, you just gotta disable them every time you open the game

[ashen talon]

it enables itself whenever i check the settings

[brittle spoke]

Is using C2 not a good idea if ur doing S runs

[stable kernel]

Both of you may need to disable server side checksum in the settings to be able to play with eachother. Refer to #❓modding-faq-archive for instructions on installing and uninstalling mods. Avoid using mod subscriptions, manually install instead.

[acoustic ridge]

it works but you should mirror to avoid incapacitating someone accidently
i dont use it since i dont want to risk someone running up to the door in the time it takes to plant c2

[brittle spoke]

Thanks what I was thinking not worth the risk

[dim raptor]

What’s y’all thoughts on the dlc ?

[proven blade]

Port Hokan:
Port Hokan Warehouse 13:

[strong summit]

This game is not Early Access? Team Roster in Tab menu doesn't show players when they connect into the police station hub. So I can't see what they're bringing.

Also there are no difficulty options? The game feels very arcady with how many bullets I can take.

[shy tulip]

Difficulty is based on maps, your armor also has a factor in that

[jovial vector]

When trying to start modded maps, the game just freezes. Iknow i says it will freeze for several minutes due to loading. But i have now tried waiting like 10 mins. Nothing happens, is this normal?

And my GPU is running at 65% when it freezes, so it is doing something?

[shy tulip]

Best you can do is let it load, don't click stuff, don't tab out. Just let it load proper. Make sure the mod is also up to date before downloading

[prime wing]

Do you have an SSD or a HDD

also is it nexus or ingame modio subbing

[amber dock]

I know outdated maps can do stuff like that.

Make sure it was updated past December 13th

[prime wing]

^

Rule of thumb

[lunar gull]

ok so

i just downloaded the game, whenever it loads up it immediately loads me into some sort of game, but i cant see anything. I can shoot something, but cant see anything. then i die, and i go back to the menu for the first time, but then it automatically sends me back into the same black screened mission and its really starting to piss me off

can anyone help?

[shy tulip]

Verify your game files again, make sure your drivers are up to date, if you downloaded mods (now or in the past incase this is a reinstall) remove them and verify again

[lunar gull]

how do i verify my game files and do all that again?

[shy tulip]

right click the game on steam > manage > properties > installed files

I despised how they changed it from local files to installed

[lunar gull]

and how do i make sure my driver is up to date?

[shy tulip]

Use your dedicated driver software, geforce experience for GTX, I dunno what AMDs is called

[lunar gull]

Ok, thanks a lot

[slate wharf]

Hello I'm new to the game and I'm not sure how to unlocks things in the uniform?

Can anyone help

[shy tulip]

Some are tied to getting a score on a map, it will say what map and what score, some are tied to achievements

[slate wharf]

So as I play the game I will unlock things.

[shy tulip]

If you are matching the requirements, yes

[prime wing]

specific requirements are layed out in the lockers/ customization menu

[acoustic eagle]

when'd this become a zombie game? cuz i down suspects and they somehow miraculously get up again somehow

[shy tulip]

Gotta shoot better

[ashen talon]

AMD has Adrenalin

[shy tulip]

that is a really bad name

[ashen talon]

i think it's nice, and the software is really functional too

i don't need MSI afterburner to tweak my GPU or to show the metrics on how well my hardware is running a game, they're built into the driver

[brave scroll]

i know

its so annoying when you double tap someone to the chest and then they just get back up

you could argue armour but two 5.56 rounds to chest with any vest is gonna hurt like fuck

[jolly verge]

It's kinda does, 5.56 in 85% cause stagger animation if suspect wear armor. You must run AP ammo if you want 2 tap torso against any armor

[brave scroll]

i used to run JHP because its more realistic but even now i run AP it seems to be largely ineffective against armour

[jolly verge]

5.56 Ap pen every suspect's armor in game

but deal only 30% of damage to limbs

the only map where you need more than 2 torso shot to incap suspect is lethal obsession

[earnest phoenix]

gerard is an absolute unit he can take like 5 9mm shots at point blank to the head and still live

[brave scroll]

maybe i just have a chronic skill issue but its just what ive noticed and it makes ammo conservation difficult when some random terrorist takes half a mag

[jolly verge]

shoot pelvis zone instead of chest, so arms won't eat bullets and reduce damage

[open harness]

Are the suspects supposed to be wall bang through walls that my gun can (Im using the SA 58), we were having a shootout with some obstacles in sight and despite it, he somehow lands some of his shot on me

[jolly verge]

yes, but suspect's wall bang deal only like 1-2 damage and almost none to armor

[stone bay]

"why dont these suspects surrender"
i say, giving them half a second to do so before blowing off their head

[granite hornet]

Yo did this game get any better performance wise ????

[teal nexus]

Unless smt happened in the last 24 hours I don’t think so

[teal nexus]

Me getting fed up with RoN and plowing suspects with a shotgun

[open harness]

How can I find the last of the civillians

I have walked around the map for 30 minutes, yelling, shooting and didn't receive any respones

[acoustic ridge]

tell ai to search and secure

[open harness]

Multiplayer I am playing

[earnest phoenix]

i think that only works if they have complied earlier

[acoustic ridge]

oh rip, just keep walking around then lol

[open harness]

Time consuming, this work is

Shoulnd't we take care of the suspects and then there should be another team sent in to take care of the civils/hostages

[sharp herald]

I wanna see an AR-10 useable in the game and a MK23 for funny

[acoustic ridge]

your lobby could consider just returning to hq or failing rescue civs to end the mission

[teal nexus]

Make sure you’ve checked all the closets

[slate wharf]

Hello, I want to know is there any way that I can unlock all customizations for my character quickly?

Other than doing missions

[languid inlet]

There is yeah but just grind like the rest of us had to do lol

[slate wharf]

Even on online?

[hollow sparrow]

is the game worth it now that is on sale or is it still ass?

[languid inlet]

Yeah dude but I’m highly against it because some cosmetics are meant to be hard to unlock not with the click of a button

[vocal night]

do you get a penalty if you melee a civilian without yelling for compliance first?

or is there any way to arrest them without yelling before hand in general

[stone bay]

This is what I use: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3138

[plucky sage]

Only thing I hate on this game is finding the civilians

[stone bay]

Especially on Relapse

[acoustic ridge]

relapse civillian search without ai

[small shell]

May I know if there are any official updates regarding the data breach?

They got a Data Breach... 4 Tb gone

[stone bay]

Oof

[strong summit]

Is it even possible to be the battering ram for your squad? Everytime I tell my squad to breach with me they block me and say I'm in the way lol

[small shell]

Wait who deleted the News Link?

[native rune]

Maybe they can fix the game and give it back to void

[small shell]

@soft narwhal Care to explain who deletes the News Link anytime? Very shady whats going on here...

[muted star]

It's in the rules or smth

[small shell]

No news? o0

[native rune]

Not even news specifically about the game lol

[night pasture]

Based bluey pfp

[native rune]

I’m a Bluey fan online and it’s based but if I’m a Bluey fan irl I get funny looks (no I don’t because no one knows)

[night pasture]

My gf has like so much bluey shit I have concerns

[toxic folio]

It was me I stole the data

[daring flame]

this is old news

[night pasture]

It’s been swept under the rug for like a whole month

Idc about it fat L for void is a good thing for this rotting decaying community

[muted star]

My guy they probably know

[native rune]

No shit they know lol

[pearl shuttle]

I hope Void collapses 🙏

[strong summit]

I'm surprised how throwing flashbangs is so direct and you can't just throw them around the corner easily

[pearl shuttle]

Bro got muted lmao

[strong summit]

it really surprises me for a CQB game that you can't throw stuff around corners

[umbral oar]

true

[daring flame]

it really surprises me for a CQB game you walk everywhere

[granite hornet]

Yo guys should I cop this game

Is it worth it

[crimson chasm]

Why the fuck did a random ass FBI agent suddenly kill me

😭 yall

[native rune]

Not for full price

[granite hornet]

It’s 30$ rn

[vocal night]

in the post office map?

[crimson chasm]

YES LOL 😭

I saw him through the window

so I opened the door and he killed me tf 😭

[floral pulsar]

He’s evil

[crimson chasm]

Why is the FBI evil now

[floral pulsar]

Read the brief

And read the suspect tab

It’ll explain it

[crimson chasm]

bruh 😭

Post office is hard as hell too

[floral pulsar]

Agreed

Go tot he small outer building to ur right first

Than work your way to the other side

[granite hornet]

Do y’all reccomend me to get this game on sale ?

[crimson chasm]

I went through the shop, to the back and then decided to flank through the back open truck docking area

[floral pulsar]

ah.

[crimson chasm]

Tbh Its worth the full price, not even on sale

[floral pulsar]

Look up video

[crimson chasm]

But it depends if you like CQB stuff

[vocal night]

there is an elevated office like structure

you can see pretty much the entire warehouse from there

[crimson chasm]

Yeh that was where he was standing

[granite hornet]

How much hr u got on it

[crimson chasm]

I breached it, and I saw him through the window

I busted down the door and he shot me

[crimson chasm]

25.5 hours

I havent played this game in a long time, started playing again once the 2.0 update hit

[native rune]

That’s crazy. 491 hours and I say it’s not worth more than 30 bucks

[granite hornet]

Why

[crimson chasm]

When I say its worth the money thats just my opinion.

I think its a great game

[native rune]

It hasn’t changed really at all in all that time, that’s why

[crimson chasm]

needs ton of fixing but its fine

[native rune]

The maps are different, that’s the biggest change, same bugs are same, same nearsighted issues are same and the only thing that’s guaranteed is more paid content

[crimson chasm]

I feel like they need to add more simplified missions

I liked the gas station mission

[granite hornet]

So do u reccomend me to cop it or nah ?

[crimson chasm]

it was simple but still could've been less shooting

[fierce mortar]

i feel they should add more work to ai behaviour

[native rune]

For 30 dollars and less sure buy it

[crimson chasm]

Sure there's room for improvement, but AI within games in 2024 is still not extremely advanced

[urban echo]

i like to play ready or not

[native rune]

I paid around that much during early access ages ago and the price increase for 1.0 was not deserved

[crimson chasm]

Im guessing its gonna be 2030 until we actually get some good AI knowledge in games

[fierce mortar]

true, but i think for being a game like RoN, ai behaviour is the most important

[granite hornet]

How much did u pay at that time

[crimson chasm]

Fully agree

[fierce mortar]

so they should have more then enough reason to work harder then most games on ai behaviour

[granite hornet]

Guys I got a 1660 will the game run good ?

[fierce mortar]

and honestly, what i think will be also a sick thing to do, but it requires work is if the bad guys can be players

[crimson chasm]

Adding simplified missions would decrease people getting annoyed with the game because its "too hard".

What happened to a simple barricaded suspect

I also feel like we should expand beyond 4 teammates, have multiple groups and have a planning system or wtv'

(atleast for larger maps)

In reality, swat teams normally have over 20 officers on a large scene

[native rune]

Void can’t make a “simple” scenario fun or interesting, simple as that. Ridgine has like three suspects and it’s the easiest/most boring map to play, you can do it in under a minute

Because there’s no options that the suspects have at their disposal to make it more compelling

[crimson chasm]

Might just be me, I do enjoy less "extreme" games.

For me, I enjoyed the ridgine a lot as I was able to detain the individuals without killing them. It made it more hard, but it does feel more realistic

[native rune]

They see you, they shoot, they die, like all the other ones, there’s just not 12 of them to pan out the time on a larger map

[crimson chasm]

Im not saying simplify everything yk, but a few missions that are less extreme at the start, and move up

[native rune]

Taking the beach house map for example as well, the home has windows on both floors, but you never have to worry about suspects shooting from them or being able to utilize them by breaking them in somehow. There’s several hiding closets and beds, but the suspects seemingly never use them (without ai mods that is, which mostly only reveal that the hiding is still broken). There’s nothing compelling or unique that happens that’s any different from the game a year ago. Suspects stand around, stare at walls, maybe they stand there for a few seconds and magically open a door they walk backwards into upon seeing you, then they start a firefight and get killed.

[fierce mortar]

so, better ai behaviour 😉

[granite hornet]

Guys I got a 1660 will the game run good ?

[native rune]

The only suspect ai briefing we got that I remember atm, was the one about making them spawn distributed and not all in one place, which first of all I don’t remember that being a big deal, and secondly there’s Still spots where suspects Never Spawn, I just gaslight myself into thinking they can so I feel thorough checking those spots

[crimson chasm]

What would be an alternative then them walking around?

They do actually tend to attempt to flank you if they know where you are (sound wise, not visual).

Having them do more advanced stuff would be almost impossible without making the game extremely expensive I'd image)))

[native rune]

Well they did make the game more expensive, and they did offer the expensive supporter package for the extent of the early access period, which you would hope went towards doing stuff like, that.

[native rune]

You can ask void that yourself, in fact. They made a video a year back on their own channel about new suspect ai behaviors, that are still not there/broken. It’s still up

[crimson chasm]

👌

[strong summit]

Is there a reason to not use canter over ads? i.e. keep ads on all the time?

[native rune]

I guess preference, any probably realism purposes as well, irl you probably wouldn’t have to ADS at someone who’s within ten feet of you but in most FPS it’s the norm

[strong summit]

I mean you keep ADS on all the time but treat canter like ADS

[frail quartz]

If you're using the laser, then I guess not really

I personally use a flashlight though

[strong summit]

I mean canter is not different from hipfire besides faster ironsighting when toggling canter

[frail quartz]

Doesn't it keep the weapon more stable than if you were just hipfiring?

I'm pretty sure there's a lot less recoil too

[native rune]

I feel like shooting canted is more responsible than shooting from the hip though no?

[strong summit]

yeah so I'm saying just keep ADS on but cantered

and treat canter toggle as your ironsight button

ADS only stops you from interacting afaik

[crude prism]

hipfire is borderline useless because of the weird recoil

canted is just OP hipfire

[frail quartz]

I mean, hipfire isn't really meant to be used for combat anyways, is it? It's just kind of a resting position

[humble mauve]

Hip fire is more of a “oh my god there’s a guy in my face help”

[crude prism]

considering that canted ADS gives you significant benefit while being mechanically the same as "hipfire" either canted should be nerfed or hipfire buffed/fixed

both canted and hipfire are ready to fire positions with stock shouldered, it's just 'gamey'

[plain osprey]

The jon wick pose 👿 ⛓️ 🩸 🐺

[snow socket]

How do I execute a command instead of having them stack up?

[shy tulip]

I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking

I understand but I suspect you mean something more specific for a scenario

[snow socket]

Like when I have red and blue teams stacked up somewhere and I want them to go in to a building at the same time how would I get them to do that?

[native rune]

By default click the scroll wheel, then the corresponding number keys

To queue orders hold shift

[snow socket]

Okay okay

[native rune]

So you’d aim at Red’s door, queue the order to open/breach and clear, do the same for Blue’s door. Then move the wheel back to yellow to select both teams, click it to open the command box that says Execute and Cancel, and press the corresponding number to execute the queued commands for both Blue and Red at the same time

You can also try and just press the quick execute that appears on the Z key, but for me that just makes them fall in over half the time.

[snow socket]

This is exactly what I meant thank you

[strong summit]

Why does the Compass disappear even though I have it enabled?

[strong summit]

What does stress do?

[shy tulip]

It basically is a mechanic tied to how many AI you kill on each map, or how intense a specific mission is.

The lower the stress, the happier your team. Meaning taking people alive, completing missions, not dying, etc.

The higher the stress, the more likely your team quits, and you have to then rehire and get new swat to fill the gap. You have infinite swat, but you lose their traits and then have to retrain someone to get the trait back.

[acoustic ridge]

(if all your swat is stressed/crisis just run gas station s rank and they wont quit)

[shy tulip]

Yeah that works

[strong summit]

Do they have like worse performance if they're stressed?

[jolly verge]

nope

[proven blade]

how do i remove the balaclava (i have no helmet selected)

[teal nexus]

Balaclava, that sounds like a mod

[proven blade]

it isnt

[stable kernel]

It is

[proven blade]

well i dont have it soo

[jolly verge]

balaclava is either head replacer or customization option, which both a mods

[proven blade]

can you give me full mod names

[jolly verge]

where did you get mods, from nexus?

[proven blade]

yes

and some from ingame mod thing

[jolly verge]

find where you get this from and remove it and clear mod data

[proven blade]

how do i remove mod data

[jolly verge]

#❓modding-faq-archive message

[proven blade]

tried it, didnt work

but its fine ig

[shy tulip]

That's not how you delete mods.

View the pins in #💻tech-support

[proven blade]

its fine

also for the hermit, if an office dies, do you have to restart all of your progress? even from hokan to 4u?

[jolly verge]

yes

[proven blade]

damn

[jolly verge]

and for dev watch you also don't wanna any officer to get fired, resigned

[proven blade]

no wonder its a 0.2 percent completion

also

is there a way to highlight suspects or civs

[shy tulip]

No

[jolly verge]

PostFX mod allow you to do this, but only on small distance like weapons

[proven blade]

oh i have that already

its in accessibility

[proven blade]

where could this last civ on hokan be

i checked cargo, lair, and w13

[strong summit]

If I use mods will vanilla players be able to play on my server? like damage rebuff and AI mods?

[tacit gull]

Yes, but they might have desync or some bugs

[strong summit]

I assume I have it with HIC Damage Rebuff mod?

[muted star]

Depends what mods mostly

Most should be fine, but mods that change speed of the player might cause issues

[tacit gull]

the running man

[muted star]

Rip sprint mod 🙏

[median shadow]

holy shit, i didn't realize that apparently the choke on the shotgun increases the damage, lol

[strong summit]

What about Here I Come mods?

[umbral oar]

wha wha what

[stone bay]

It doesn’t it just groups the pellets closer together

[molten wren]

It does just group the pellets closer

[tribal monolith]

Time to test it on Brixley and AV

[lapis leaf]

When you want to change / test your outfit, press right click and hold on another piece of clothing and you can see it equipped without actually equpping it.

[strong summit]

why does local voice chat not work well in this game?

[stone bay]

that’s what I said lol

[pearl shuttle]

Any cool gameplay mods that you guys think are underrated

[median shadow]

at point blank range it shouldn't make a difference then but it does, my guess is reduced fall of damage or something like that

[acoustic ridge]

if you use a semi auto shotgun you can just shoot them again if damage falls off

[proven blade]

How do I fix no voice lines

It’s not a mod and I already deleted the VO file

[stone bay]

Try verifying the integrity of your game files via Steam

[proven blade]

I have

Didn’t work

[stone bay]

Try posting in #💻tech-support because I have no other suggestions

[proven blade]

Also could be a bit off-topic, but does anyone else know why reshade doesn’t pop up when I look it up? I need it for recorded or not

[stable kernel]

It is included in the download

[proven blade]

Yes

It requires it so I downloaded reshade 1.11.6

And it doesn’t exist even though I downloaded it

[daring flame]

did you look inside the mods folder/ where you downloaded it?

[jovial frigate]

how do i fix the game crashing on startup

[acoustic ridge]

does not having a helmet increase how suppressed you are? first and only time ive used no helmet suppression was absolutely killing mu combay effectiveness

[stable kernel]

You need to provide more information. Did you recently install any mods, and when is it crashing exactly?

[jovial frigate]

on the black loading screen before the main menu and no even after i uninstall all of them it still happens

[stable kernel]

Does launching in safe mode solve the issue?

[proven blade]

I just downloaded it

So it should be in downloads

[open harness]

a tad late but they won’t respond to you when hiding in the closet?

[teal nexus]

I don’t think so

I could also be wrong on that though

[open harness]

damn, talk about realism of this game

[quiet dagger]

paid dlc before pvp 🧐

isnt home invasion remarkably similar to the game types they REMOVED from the game? lol

[shy tulip]

How is 3 new maps similar to modes they removed

[quiet dagger]

i thought the map and game mode was separated, so you could do home invasion on maps that already existed, like the barricaded suspect/hostage thing they removed

[prime wing]

there has been no mention of gamemodes in the dlc as far as I know

[quiet dagger]

i see, well ill wait for more info then before i decide to buy it

[daring flame]

nobody wants pvp in this game bruh it was shit the first time they tried it and it won’t be any different

[shy tulip]

You wouldn't like to see the spam that is when pvp on the forums

[stone bay]

where is the last civilian on relapse

i have been searching for him for 35 minutes straight

[dim cosmos]

i think it's randomized, but good luck

[stone bay]

search and rescue does nothing

every door is opened

[dim cosmos]

also it's, search and clear..

[stone bay]

i dont know what to do i don't want to lose this S rank i did everything perfectly

yeah whatever that command

[dim cosmos]

its randomized on where they spawn in

or probably that the last guy is a hostile

[stone bay]

HOW

i've gotten the brind order to chaos

ive arrested everyone i've defused both bombs

[dim cosmos]

ay man dont look at me, i just started

[stone bay]

can anyone help me for fs sake

[grim hound]

Relapse is hard to find last civ since there are 2 buildings

[dim cosmos]

actually

did you check the attic?

[stone bay]

can they just not spawn?

[grim hound]

But I don't think anyone can help you because it's random, no? I also had this experience before

[stone bay]

bro what attic im in a hospital

second to last mission

i've been yelling at walls for 40 minutes straight

[dim cosmos]

i though you were at the 3rd mission, the meth house

[stone bay]

SWAT SIMULATOR btw

hide and seek simulator

[dim cosmos]

i mean

it is both.

[grim hound]

You probably need to wedge as well. I also stuck before and it ended up he is on the 2nd building and keep moving from 1 room to another.

[stone bay]

wait holy

i found him oh my god

oh god it's finally over

[dim cosmos]

nice

[stone bay]

such relief

HAHAH the next mission is called hide and seek