👮ron-discussion

[limber steppe]

he taunts them

[opaque birch]

welcome to the club

[limber steppe]

calls them names when they're crying their eyeballs out from the pepper spray

[limpid berry]

REAL morale damage happens by insulting the suspects

[crude prism]

press F to nana nana boo boo the suspect

[limpid berry]

Press G to spit on the suspect and call him disgusting

[frail quartz]

Dark magic

[whole wedge]

Wonder if judge had pikumiku figure at home

[prime wing]

Na nah boo boo gun on floor or if not you get the mega tap tap

[acoustic ridge]

breacher and riot control also makes no sense, are they adding extra explosive goop in our flashbangs stingers and c2 on the spot

[crude prism]

you just gotta add more powder, ez

[acoustic ridge]

hold f to tamper with equipment

[minor leaf]

how is this game still horrible 4 months after release

[stone bay]

Can someone recommend a good DMR loadout?

[lavish jasper]

Hey, does anyone know if ready or not can run okay on an Intel UHD 630 GPU?

[sudden marsh]

its a integrated GPU, it won't

[lavish jasper]

yippee...

[sharp fox]

make an update so judge can take some evidence for himself

[gaunt turtle]

how many points is an A rank on hide and seek?

[daring flame]

2000

[daring flame]

you mean 4 years

[calm shuttle]

4 months after official release

[daring flame]

how many major updates has this game had.. hmm lets see there's adam update.... and also.... uhh...................................hmm..

[stone bay]

Hahahaha

Remember Delta 0-9 ? I think i found his brother

A guy named Fran hahahahaha

Why do public Lobbies take this game seriously, like if it was like a real Tac-Simulation?

I really wanna know for real

[daring flame]

because that's the impression the game gives off

[paper breach]

true

[stone bay]

On a modded lobby ?

[daring flame]

i dont think half the people that join public lobbies know what mods are

[stone bay]

Lol

I just had a guy named Fran screamed at me like "WHY YOU KILL CIVILIANS YOU F##### MORON ?!" as i was shooting down terrorists on Relapse

I dont know if he was trolling but still like he made the whole lobby go against me and shoot me

And everyone screaming at me like "You gotta secure evidence and do your job properly"

Like in any case bro do a private lobby with your dudes

[daring flame]

bro what

[stone bay]

In a modded lobby by the way

A Max suspect lobby... Secure evidence and report each body

In a Max suspect lobby

[teal nexus]

if you dont want to take it seriously why dont you get your buddies?

dont you have any?

[stone bay]

Nah

[paper breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1146601449401368587/1195781426184978442/attachment.gif

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[stone bay]

It's logical to play for real and tactial on a private server with your people... How ever in a public lobby where mods are here and there and everyone is running Gunfighter, how am i suppose to take that seriously

How am i suppose to take a lobby seriously where the host has an LMG and frag grenades

[teal nexus]

dawg whattt

[paper breach]

this dude isnt real

[teal nexus]

alright

bruh, me and fran were both running Sa58's nobody had any mods installed

[stone bay]

Not reffering to your lobby dude

[teal nexus]

and if we did, they were purely client side, such as reskins

[stone bay]

I'm putting that as an example

[rigid cobalt]

@stone bay

[stone bay]

But let me rephrase my statement... Pretty much the eveyrone who plays RON pubs is used to mods... And no one takes Pubs seriously

You wanna play tactical, same thing that happened with Delta 0-9

Go play in a priv. lobby

The thing i mentioned about LMG and frags is just an example... Because that is pretty much the standard for public lobbies nowdays

[paper breach]

im sure you could find a serious pub lol, not everyone downloads mods

[stone bay]

Plus bro... i dont wanna be Egocentric... but i have all the 15 achievements, all maps on S...

I wont play seriously again until the DLC comes out

[acoustic ridge]

ive played in like 1 serious pub, most of the time everyone disperses and shoots whoever they want

[paper breach]

are you a real person

[stone bay]

See what i mean ? no one is coordinated... It is rare to get a decent Serious pub... And when IT IS a serious pub, they tell you "Hey we are playing tactical and we actually want an S"

And as soon as i hear that i know to not fuck around

But lobbies where everyone is just doing their thing, not talking, in the shooting range and stuff like that... i'm not gonna take it seriously

So i stand by my point, pubs are made for fun and randomness... not tactical and immersive gameplay

You want to play tactical, be patient, run non lethal and get an S, play on private lobbies

[paper breach]

what

[stone bay]

That's why some guys and i have a discord server dedicated for PVP tactical gameplay of Ready or Not, we do PVP matches like Rainbow Six

Cause we actually want to play tactical and with immersive gameplay

And we do it PRIVATELY

[paper breach]

?????

on ready or not? you play pvp?????

[stone bay]

Yeah

[acoustic ridge]

theres a pvp mod

[paper breach]

the hitreg is horrible though lol

[stone bay]

Yeah InGame Menu mod

The PVP mod fixes most of those problems

Making a fun experience on PVP

[teal nexus]

You find shooting shooting surrendered civi’s fun

[paper breach]

idk dawg id rather just play cs, arma, or insurgency sandstorm

[stone bay]

Civilians with G3s ? and AKs ?

Sure

[teal nexus]

Either way was surrendered

No longer a threat

[stone bay]

See what i mean ?

If you want me to cuff em, you tell me "Hey we are actually playing for real"

Cause i'm so used to Max Suspects, zombies, AI mods and stuff like that

That i just shoot to kill

[teal nexus]

?

[stone bay]

What about that ? i did get screamed at

[teal nexus]

Screamed at to not do dumb shit

To play like an actual person

[stone bay]

I repeat

You wanna play RON for real ? and actually get a Rank ? play on private lobbies

[paper breach]

why cant pubs be taken seriously

its like solo qing for a premier game of cs lmao

[stone bay]

For the reasons i mentioned already

People are so used to get Pubs with mods that pubs are not taken seriously anymore.... Have you seen the Nexus Page and how many mods are there for ready or not? 85% of the lobbies are modded

[paper breach]

its the same things as solo qing rainbow or cs lol

[stone bay]

Every pub is modded at this point, Either with guns, zombies, max suspects, PVP, AI mods, map mods, Armor mods, etc.

[teal nexus]

When you queue for CS do you hope for brain dead teammates that are trolling, or teammates having fun by playing the game properly

[paper breach]

thats like saying every rainbow server is modded lol, people still play ready or not for the core gameplay

[stone bay]

The only person that we know of that plays pub seriously is Delta 0-9

And he has become kinda like a thing to meme on him

[acoustic ridge]

ron is against ai with no competitive ranking system, you dont need to tryhard every game

[stone bay]

To join his lobby and kill him cause he is too aggressive about taking gameplay seriously

[stone bay]

EXACTLY !

My point in better words

[waxen bay]

do they work now after the march patch?

never mind, saw your answer (they do, but some people are still reporting broken)

[teal nexus]

That’s why I say half competent teammates, people who want to chill out and actually play the game, not try too hard or dick around

[paper breach]

why grief lobbies lmao?

[stone bay]

Yeah you see the thing here is... This is not R6

This is not a Triple A game

[paper breach]

yeah and people still play it for the core gameplay

r6 also sucks horse cock

[stone bay]

Not that i've seen

[stone bay]

Nononono, not grief lobbies

Only him, he is annoying and he knows it

[paper breach]

you must be q'ing checksum enabled

[stone bay]

Nah i have checksum disabled

Cause i like to join random Zombie Lobbies

It's fun

[paper breach]

well somehow you keep ending up in fully modded lobbies lmao

[teal nexus]

I’m in a call with him rn lmao, were buds and we both aernt hella serious on the game

[stone bay]

Yeah cause i have Checksum disabled

[paper breach]

well thats your problem goofy

[stone bay]

Same goes to you

[paper breach]

if i join a modded lobby with gunfighter enabled i just leave lmao

[stone bay]

Not my problem you suddenly decided to do a "Normal Lobby" and not say a thing about it

[stone bay]

That's you buddy

[paper breach]

what do you mean "i decided to"

[stone bay]

Not my problem

[paper breach]

i dont know you lmao

[stone bay]

Oh wait so thats only Kiwi ?

Then who are you ?

[paper breach]

im cold oven hot food eat the food dawg

[stone bay]

Glad to know

[paper breach]

i mean you cant read my name so i guess it helps

[stone bay]

Well if there is no other commets to add to the conversation

I guess we can leave it at "Pubs = Random shit " / "Privs = Actual gameplay"

[paper breach]

youre probably wrong on that one lol

[stone bay]

Depends

[paper breach]

just disable checksum for people that wanna win

[teal nexus]

Yukon

Yuki*

[stone bay]

Or enable Checksum if you want to play actual games

[paper breach]

what does that mean

[stone bay]

Cause that way it filters it and people with mods cant join

You have to be running the same RON the way the host is to join

[paper breach]

oh thats what i meant disable checksum for people that want to win

had it backwards

[stone bay]

I mean i already have all the 15 achievements... So meh

[teal nexus]

We weren’t taking the game super seriously, again, we just wanted to see what score we could get by running it, not super tactically as you’ve been describing

[paper breach]

well why ruin it for other peeps then

[stone bay]

You should've said that then

[teal nexus]

If you have all 15 achievements why play at all

My VOIP doesn’t work

[stone bay]

I dont ruin shit... I just play on autopilot based on my experience

[teal nexus]

Your autopilot is shooting surrendered suspects?

[stone bay]

I dont deliverately go to lobbies killing teammates and throwing grenades around

[stone bay]

Yeah, cause of what i already said ?

[paper breach]

well isnt that not good for the health of the game or community?

[teal nexus]

Who had grenades again?

Please give me a name

[stone bay]

Tell that to the people running mods then

Go talk to people on Nexus and complain to them that the mods are "ruining the community"

[stone bay]

No one ? people who have the mod GunFighter ?

[paper breach]

i mean yeah theres mods but modders can play in private matches lol

[teal nexus]

Nobody had the mid gunfighter installed

[stone bay]

Again, tell that to the 80% of people who do modded lobbies

[stone bay]

What are you talking about ?

[paper breach]

dont you think that the reason why "pubs are ruined" is because of mods?

[stone bay]

I actually enjoy em, they make the game more special and random... You never know what you will get, either PVP with some dudes, a lobby with chaotic zombies running at you and you have limited ammo, A difficult "Terrorist Hunt" where the AI level is on MAX level

[prime wing]

the problem is the lack of server browser

boom

[stone bay]

Dang

FACTS

[paper breach]

completely solved case

[stone bay]

BOOM

[prime wing]

one solution to all

[teal nexus]

dude just completely solved everything

[stone bay]

We all agree on that}

InGame Menu actually has a server browser but it doesnt tell you if the lobby is modded or not

It just shows the lobbies that have Checksum enabled

[paper breach]

yeah no we need a vanilla server browser lmao

[stone bay]

Yeah and one that says "Modded" or "Vanilla"

So people can distinguish

Hopefully one day

AFTER THEY FIX THE AI LOLOLOLOL

After they actually deliver a decent game with no perfomance issues and crashes

[teal nexus]

maybe tags such as, goofballs, semi serious, and pure tactical teams

[stone bay]

facts

[paper breach]

shit arma already does that

[stone bay]

Well problem solved

[teal nexus]

yeah, i was a little agitated, but W mods ig

[stone bay]

Although this gave me an idea, to run Non Lethal in public lobbies

To see the reaction of other people

I'll probably get kicked

[teal nexus]

i dont think people would get mad over that tbh

[stone bay]

They do

SOmetimes... because "Non Lethal = Trash and boring"

But i just do it to piss em off and get a better score than them in the results page haha

[crude prism]

I would bet that having outdated mods could affect this probably

Besides that, I fucking doubt anyone reporting something like that is actually testing or even knows how to

[brittle spoke]

So look I fail a lot at iron man

So figured everytime I have to start over run non lethal everyone .. guys this shit is fun 😊

[proven blade]

i remember the early access for ready or not, last update was on february, we didnt see any actual updates to live version of game until the game 1.0 dropped suddenly, and now i feel like its gonna be same, we gonna wait long time before an update drops

i just hope they fix the ai, bring more QoL fixes

[brittle spoke]

They should bring back the old way with all the maps for filler

I liked running a map different styles

[proven blade]

yeah same

idk why they did it this way but it is what it is

[brittle spoke]

Don't get me wrong the new police station is nice

[proven blade]

and i feel like there will be more Ai generated content in game like lmao

[brittle spoke]

Oh gosh shouldn't be hard .. while working on the game ok ur story mode was cool but the old way again please lol

[proven blade]

yea

im glad i bought ready or not at lowered price

[brittle spoke]

Still commander is cool I get the team thing

[proven blade]

i like practice is fun casual

[crude prism]

Even if they don't want to include them in the "campaign" mode, the alt versions of maps should 100% be available in practice/online coop

[proven blade]

ye

[crude prism]

Like 4 alt maps got removed that were already feature complete (would probably need an AI pathing pass, but that's about it)

[proven blade]

yep

[prime wing]

i think that wanting to keep level design quality consistent may be a factor. Im surprised that a map like valley was not reworked entirely or as it falls behind in quality+ aesthestics and the map is not fun to play when you get shot constantly from outside due to the curtains. It was the big 'CP" level, and reworking it would have been a loss in some ways.

Then u have maps like Beachside and new clemente hotel that I will die on the hill that they had a style and a vision set that was delivered. They feel and look more polished for some reason. Cant explain why.

Im still surprised by how lacking valley is compared to other maps in terms of identity and uniqueness

[proven blade]

Good point

[prime wing]

newer maps

are just

feel and look better

[crude prism]

idk, it definitely captures the "modern flat white" look of high-value rich people homes

[prime wing]

valley is just generic outsourced assets

[prime wing]

yeah i dont disagree

but

[crude prism]

Why not just add a section only for online coop that's "legacy maps" or something? there is nearly* no downside

[prime wing]

Have you heard of, DLC

[crude prism]

ill fucking throw up

[prime wing]

I doubt they will do that

then again, its 2024

something I imagine is them having night and day mode for some maps.

Carriers of the vine, on night time

i would take that

as long as its free

ofc

[crude prism]

replace haze effect with 10m fog visibility please

i need to suffer more

[prime wing]

fog 200

give farm a night version and you will have youtube videos like "Task force 141 raids farm" or some shit like that

"REAL marines play night op"

[amber dock]

New levels I feel are the best honestly

[prime wing]

theres a phrase

You can use the same ingredients to make a bunch of bread, but it only takes a small portion to make a good bread

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/you-give-a-man-a-fish-give-man-fish-give-fish-funny-fail-gif-20807847

[prime wing]

The rework of dealership was good too

Although i have not played it that much

I have to get some time on it to get ahold of the quality

[grim hound]

we play on modded map. If my friend is the host, I can get in but everytime I enter the map, I'll die instantly the moment I entered the map. Not killed but just instantly died.

But if I the host, we both can play without any issue. Why is that? (The problem is my connection suck so he must be the host).

[shy tulip]

Do you both have the map installed assumingly?

The same version as well

[grim hound]

yeah. I share him the map.

All map has the same issue except for Sanctum deceive. Either of us can host and still works fine.

[placid osprey]

Have they updated the ready or not supporter edition names in the credits in the last few months? I had submitted my name but hadn’t seen it in there a few months ago cause they had paused updating the list for some reason.

[prime wing]

is the map updated for the latest version?

[grim hound]

Yeah. Weird part is we can play on that map no problem only if I am the one hosting.

Maybe there are some mod that conflicting? Since I use many mod and he doesn't so I have to be the host?

[waxen bay]

if you look up "trait" on #1050535723087958156 the person reporting it seems to have done some testing

i was an idiot and looking at an old version of your spreadsheet so I was inverting the traits as if unlocked meant not effective, but I think you're probably right (it is pretty hard to test)

[crude prism]

If you mean aspid then yes, he's gamin

[jolly verge]

all traits, except riot control and intimidator, are working

[lapis mauve]

Um so I’m new to Ron

Did anyone else feel this intense vibe when first playing because Jesus….

[waxen bay]

@jolly verge thanks both, I should've known. wonder how many runs I threw away because I thought I had armorer and nutritionist but I didn't

[prime wing]

I know exactly why

Are you playing on a hdd, by any chance

[tacit gull]

💀 does ron execute you for being an HDD user

[vernal bane]

Kinda lmao

Load times are so terrible

[tacit gull]

Sounds about right

[prime wing]

Now face the wall

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/papers-please-gif-23166877

[grim hound]

Yeah. Especially if the map is dark and tight. The enemies can jump scare you.

[prime wing]

people falling out of the level is due to the fact that the player falling is usually playing on a hard drive.

I dont recall exactly how

Matt knew more about it

[vernal bane]

Should yea lmao - I forgot one day I installed it on my HDD instead of my SSD and load times were so bad

Performance was terrible as well

PSA to install RoN on an SSD

[tacit gull]

I'm gonna speak out of my ass and probably guess the collisions don't apply to you untill it's too late

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-of-ra-curse-of-ra-gif-10622361558915339590

[tacit gull]

I'm glad blackbird is actually putting the image perms to good use unlike some people 🙄

[little hatch]

Does covering fire work in this game? Meaning does the AI get suppressed

[lost inlet]

nope only you do

[misty island]

#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel message
@tame brook
If you did not back up your save files, then you just deleted your save data. Game does not have cloud saving.

[cold island]

i hate Elephant i cant find the goddamn bombs

i heard one beep and thats it no other beeps before you know it boom

wish we could interrogate the suspects

[misty island]

After a couple if tries, you will learn most spawn locations.
But yes, 3D sound in this game is ass. Like most of the things.

[storm parcel]

Hello, quick question to have the Way Out West success, what mission must you do with the 357 Magnum?

[jolly verge]

Rust belt

[misty island]

Do not forget to do it in SP.

What happend to out Bitcoin Miner guy, who had RoN: The Broken edition? I have not seen complaining lately.

[eternal mirage]

on twisted nerve some of the dudes should hide in tubs. When you breach a door they should try and nail you

[storm parcel]

SP ?

[tacit gull]

Whoops

[misty island]

Singleplayer, as you do not achievements in multiplayer.

[stark horizon]

has anyone else had this bug where every action happens a little slower than it normally does (arresting and switching weapons)

when cuffing incapacitated, dead suspects it also bugs out kinda

[storm parcel]

I have to do any mission or a specific one ?

[misty island]

As stated above by AspidZEUS, Rust Belt.

[storm parcel]

Ok thank you

[teal nexus]

Like a small delay? That’s pretty normal in pretty sure

[leaden holly]

Is C2 not suitable if you're going for an S run?

[stone bay]

It knocks suspects out but as far as I know doesn’t kill them.

[molten wren]

suspects manifested irl and one tapped him

[stark horizon]

its normal for actions to take longer tha they normally do? xD

[stark horizon]

turns out the modded weapon I was using was causing this bug

[molten wren]

aye that happened the same to me, I thought it was some weird stutter caused by a program until I realized it came from switching weapons.

[stark horizon]

I was confused too because the game performance was totally normal

[molten wren]

yea and it felt off when you swapped to the affected weapon, I only noticed that when it dawned on me while I was checking mags on both my primary and secondary.

I got a question, does the stinger grenade actually have individual rubber balls that scatter upon explosion or does it just check for an unbroken line of sight towards the grenade

also how does the CS gas actually work, I noticed when I got close to the grenade it functioned more like repeated explosions that shook my screen each time. How does its effects check for obstacles?

[jolly verge]

If you in gas/pepper smoke radius you start getting damage by 0.1 health per 0.5 second, same for suspects, it's hurt them, stun and deal 0.2 morale damage every 0.5 second. Walls should block gas but in some places it's seems work through

[jolly verge]

it's have fixed radius of 12 meters (flashbang have 10m), i don't think rubbers do anything

and if someone in 2m radius of exploded stinger it's will hurt them by 25 damage and + 2 damage from 12m radius as well

[molten wren]

I see, thx for the clarification

[stark horizon]

it could be rubber bullets because if you throw it too close it knocks suspects out

although rubber bullets flying everywhere sounds too demanding

[molten wren]

Ok I assume the damage mentioned here is physical not morale damage?

[stark horizon]

yes physical

[molten wren]

Ight

[jolly verge]

yeap, health damage, it's can incap if suspect/civi at low health

[molten wren]

Yea makes sense, one last question, does the stinger and flashbang have the same morale damage and other factors relating to the morale damage?

[molten wren]

Yea makes sense, I wouldn't be surprised if it caused some microstutters like Arma.

[jolly verge]

at point blank stinger deal 0.5 morale damage and flashbang 0.43, but they will surrender anyway if it's stunned them

[lost inlet]

bruh void really dont know how powerful flashbang are

[molten wren]

Flashbang just needs it to last a stun about roughly 2x current effects or make suspects be slow and bad when doing anything after recovering.

Tear gas tho? That thing needs like a massive buff cause my personal experience with that was hell trying to flush my eyes for like half an hour.

[jolly verge]

Gas or smoke from pepper balls are op with pacifier trait, it's make suspects surrender after they get stun from it

you don't even need to yell at them

[bitter iron]

Does someone want to gift me ron

[daring flame]

no

[bitter iron]

Aw

[molten wren]

In the summer sale of 2034

[bitter iron]

Aight bet

[molten wren]

Maybe

[woeful gazelle]

Thank you @stone bay we appreciate your boost!

[raven schooner]

does the spline feature in the replay mode work? ive been trying to use it but i cant figure it out

[stone bay]

me when i got achievements through multiplayer

[misty island]

Mods

[stone bay]

wym mods

i dont have any mods i just did it with 2 other people with no mods and we got achievements idk

[upbeat wadi]

just read the announcement and lmao what the fuck, lip sync?

[opaque birch]

Hey Vro. We Needed Lip Sync. John At The Bad Ideas Department Said So.

-john ready or not

[upbeat wadi]

it's like they're deliberately trying to piss off the entire fan base

[opaque birch]

You Get It Now

• jeff from the pissing off the entire fanbase department

[upbeat wadi]

im still on their side but a couple more announcements like that and even i might change my mind

lmao
it's really mysterious too, there's no way they don't know it's an incredibly dumb idea

are they in serious debt so they cant afford to address the real complaints or something?

[umbral oar]

whats wrong with lip sync

[opaque birch]

Yes

• john "We Are Severely In Debt" void

[upbeat wadi]

in a vacuum nothing
in this situation where it's been like a year of everybody being pissed off at them for focusing on esoteric shit instead of fixing the actual problems with the game as it is right now (optimization, AI, very low replay value)? everything

[opaque birch]

low replay value? vro this game has lots of replay value

i have 15 hours in the game that compose entirely of shooting voll in the head and im not joking

[upbeat wadi]

aside from S ranking everything, there's really not much to do after you've beaten it once. ive only played multiplayer for a month or two and im already sick and tired of running the same 15 or so maps over and over, and they're way too easy now if you have a team that even remotely knows what it's doing

[opaque birch]

how many hours do you have

[upbeat wadi]

custom maps would be a very easy fix to that, but nobody's playing those because it's a pain in the ass even on the players' side to do it, and basically a nightmare for the modders

[opaque birch]

how many hours

[upbeat wadi]

steam says 161, but it's actually more like 100 probably, i have a bad habit of tabbing out of games instead of exiting

[opaque birch]

thats a whole ass 5 days you spent playing

and if ur other hours are right then dats still 3 whole ass days worth of time vro

[upbeat wadi]

yeah, and already there's nothing to do. that's very low for a multiplayer-focused game

[opaque birch]

its not multiplayer focused??????????????????? lmao

I FUCKING KNEW IT you had bad takes

[umbral oar]

i am easily entertained. i have 500 ish hours

[teal nexus]

I wouldn’t say it’s focused on either single or multiplayer

[opaque birch]

like you mfs complaining about lack of playtime are spoiled. i play the same 5 maps on squad and only played mirage on CS and i never got bored of it

[teal nexus]

You’re free to play it single, but you’re also free to have a team

[teal nexus]

Playing mirage only tells me a lot about how a person plays CS

[upbeat wadi]

neither are coop games. a better comparison would be, say, payday 2

[opaque birch]

like if everyone on the planet thought like yall do we would singlehandedly get rid of people who have 1000+ hours in games

[opaque birch]

both are coop you cooperate with your team against the opps

the opps being terrorists

and ill use insurgency sandstorm too which is in the same situation as ron gameplay wise

that game fun

why is ron not fun

[opaque birch]

like any game if you play enough w people youre familiar with will become easy

thats just obvious thats just a factual statement that is not a game flaw

[upbeat wadi]

what
i guess they're also both singleplayer cause you only control one guy

[opaque birch]

yeah.... you get my point vro

[teal nexus]

Because RoN is a choppy game with lack of optimization which punishes players for not having top of the line graphics cards

[opaque birch]

we on the same page

[opaque birch]

deadass so is squad

[teal nexus]

Never played squad

[opaque birch]

go play it ngl its kinda goated

[upbeat wadi]

ive seen plenty of people with absurd NASA computer ass rigs complain about the stutters too, like we're talking 4090 and ryzen 7

[opaque birch]

but only kinda doe its boring at times

when ur sl squad baits and so ur squad just becomes completely uncoordinated

[umbral oar]

optimization is fine, just the shader stuff is messy

[teal nexus]

I run a 1060, it kinda works, I run high graphics with everything else turned down or off besides view distance

[stone bay]

the "Run for 15 minutes and get shot by someone you can't see" type of bored

[opaque birch]

15 too low

[upbeat wadi]

as i was playing robocop i found out the consensus on the internet was that it was incredibly badly optimized and everyone complained about the stutters, and i barely even noticed them

[teal nexus]

Cough cough greased palms

[opaque birch]

cough cough mindjot entrance...

[upbeat wadi]

and then it hit me, id been primed by ready or not

[teal nexus]

Mindjot wasn’t as bad as greased palms

[opaque birch]

YOUVE BEEN HIT BY
YOUVE BEEN STRUCK BY
READY OR NOT DEVELOPMENT

[teal nexus]

Greased palms is the peak of how fucked can you make a map

[opaque birch]

runs like shit on my 1650 deadass drops to 5 fps when just starting in and stays on 10-20

[upbeat wadi]

i really dont understand why everyone hates greased palms so much, i didnt have much of an issue clearing it even in single player, much less with teams who knew what they were doing

voll's house and especially the fuckin hotel were way, way worse for me (in single player at least)

[teal nexus]

I always get shot from people I just can’t see

[opaque birch]

ngl skill issue just turn on the silly switch and unload a full mag

[teal nexus]

Kinda hard when you can’t tell where the shooting is even coming from

[upbeat wadi]

i guess like 300 hours between rising storm 2 and red orchestra 2 prepared me for such shit lmao

[teal nexus]

Like I couldn’t complete greased palms without the shield

[opaque birch]

ngl it gotta be shooting from somewhere frfr so just like shoot somewhere yknow

[upbeat wadi]

especially rs2, seven kills you score out of every ten will be without ever seeing the guy you killed

[teal nexus]

You know where the gunman is because you know where the gunman isn’t type shit

[opaque birch]

I had the most goated sticker to use replying to this message just to find out they blocked external sticker using in this channel

[upbeat wadi]

my roommate once sat next to me watching me play rs2 and he was like, i really dont understand how you're acting like you can actually see em and like there's shit to react to, all i see is you running around and occasionally shooting at some bushes seemingly at random

[opaque birch]

Its over ronvros im uninstalling and refunding

[opaque birch]

"you see vro, im on a whole different level. i installed the cheats directly into my brain so no one would find out im cheating ever"

[upbeat wadi]

in single player id just send my dudes to clear shit ahead of myself and used a lot of wedges
also it helps to use em as bait, send them to a specific spot and watch

if they get shot at, at least the shooter is distracted by them for a little while
if they dont, you know it's safe

[opaque birch]

in single player i would kill all my ai before i did anything

i know you can remove their ammo. i know you can make them stay in the same place. i just want to see blood

[upbeat wadi]

nah i was just pavlov'd into watching out for muzzle flashes more than anything, plus just logically guessing where the enemy would be half by knowing the map and half through "if i was VC on this map, where would i be right now?"

[teal nexus]

Wedges are legit my best friends

[opaque birch]

if i was a terrorist where would i be terroristing rn....

[teal nexus]

For S tiers should I use beanbag shotgun or the pepper ball gun

[upbeat wadi]

yeah i was really dreading ides of march from how everybody was talking about it, then i actually cleared it first try (and then got blowed up while looking for the last couple civilians to secure cause i got impatient and kicked a door in like a total fuckin idiot)

[opaque birch]

s tier gun is sa58 trust me

[acoustic ridge]

i just spam until the muzzle flashes stop

[teal nexus]

Pov me on Brisa cove

Oh wait same thing oops

[upbeat wadi]

all cause i knew how to use wedges

[upbeat wadi]

doesn't always work, you have your own muzzle flashes that the enemy can see remember

[opaque birch]

BRISA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE...... BRISA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE..... I FUCKING HATE BRISA COVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[teal nexus]

I had one of the veterans try to flank me once and I put a 308 in him so fast

My heart has never beat faster

[acoustic ridge]

works well enough for me

[teal nexus]

Also, shotguns, kinda meta ngl

[upbeat wadi]

i think i was at my most effective in that game as scout or grenadier (only for the southern factions though, the blooper rules but i dont think i ever managed to actually hit anything with an rpg)

and that's a totally different type of gameplay, instead of watching out for muzzle flashes and picking em off from distances of like 60+ meters, you gotta flank and get very good at dipping in and out of sight

batman type gameplay

if batman had a grease gun

[teal nexus]

I remember how I used to be good at the game in the early version

I would solo tf out of repulse, and the hotel, now I can barely get through three rooms alone

[opaque birch]

chat is rs2 worth it in 2024

[teal nexus]

Uhm

No (I have no idea what rs2 is)

[opaque birch]

is it dead or no

rising storm 2 vro....

[upbeat wadi]

dunno i havent played it for like a year and it was already clearly dying
but i dont think it's actually gonna die for good anytime soon, i mean look at ro2 it's still reasonably alive

checked steam, 430 in game

but it's almost 11 pm in europe and that's where most of the player base is i think

probably a lot more on weekends and friday nights

[opaque birch]

Damn

4 pm for me..

the one time i have free

[teal nexus]

Nuh uh it’s 3:48

[opaque birch]

Be quiet for me kitten.... You don't wanna get on my bad side.

[teal nexus]

But if imma be fr

I think the biggest issue that needs to be fixed, is optimization

[native rune]

I mean the devs left ages ago and it still needed a lot of care. I played sporadically for some years and it’s basically always the same. Tons of empty servers, confusion with the Mega Servers being harmful still a thing, populated servers are always one-sided steamrolls, no actual tactics or coordination just essentially everyone’s playing BF1

[native rune]

One guy can hop in the chopper and spawn camp the entire NVA team, that’s always great. And the only map everyone’s plays is Resort

[opaque birch]

that is great... fucking communists

[native rune]

The whole general idea was to maintain a sense of asymmetry but developer support left before it could really be ironed out at all. The nuance that the game needs for matches to unfold properly requires players to do something other than spawn in and sprint 200 meters to the front lines, so naturally it didn’t come to fruition. So to answer the original question no I don’t think it is.

[gloomy isle]

I still got a lot of fun out of RS2, but it is one of the few games where I heard of server being potentially harmful

As in, installing malware

You’ll find many posts warning to not join the MEGA servers

You can find some full servers here and there. It is very fun to play

[opaque birch]

vro has not seen the reviews for the early cod games

[gloomy isle]

That’s correct

That said, you can technically play with bots using console commands

Even though Red Orchestra 2 and Rising Storm 1 used them extensively, for some reason the devs never gave them real support in RS2

Playing with bots is also a lot of fun. Especially the case you can get in a helicopter and shoot bot armies.

[upbeat wadi]

yes thats the only one, steer clear of it

[upbeat wadi]

there's GOM

[delicate badger]

I understand that many recommend Nexus mods, but do you have the Vortex installed, or do you download files, and manually put them in RON-folder?

[opaque birch]

download files and put them in paks folder

[delicate badger]

thanks for answer, @opaque birch 🙂

[opaque birch]

look up a tutorial if u need to vro

[twilit oyster]

Hey what maps do Trailers come in?

[stone bay]

i think all? ive even had them come in modded maps but idk

[stable kernel]

Only in practice mode, and only on some maps apparently. Custom maps can work with them actually, but might not. I am not aware of why. https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3906 actually puts them on all maps and in multiplayer.

[misty island]

I mean, that it is impossible to get achievements in MP in vanila game, as they are broken.

[upbeat wadi]

all vanilla ones but they only work properly in practice mode for some reason

[ionic gale]

Hey guys

[teal nexus]

Trailers?

[stone bay]

When you've soft completed a mission, there will be cops that come and go retrieving suspects. Those are called trailers.

[teal nexus]

I have never seen them before

Like… ever

[jolly verge]

They appear only in practice mode

[sharp fox]

i told this guy to drop his gun and he really said "you first" like what 😭🙏

[stone bay]

I'm so glad I was able to get No Mercy for Terrorists to work. Combined with another mod that disables the ability to surrender it makes for some interesting missions.

[stone stump]

me when i play the game the opposite way it is intended to

[earnest phoenix]

me when the game is barely playable the way it is intended to

[stone stump]

true

[wintry hatch]

Broooooooo

[vagrant zephyr]

Any AI mods ya’ll suggest? Not ones such as roleplay tactical, but more akin to zombie or not where it changes the gameplay drastically.

[waxen falcon]

hey when do you think ron will be on slae?

[stone stump]

why don't you ask google? you'll get your answer way faster

[humble mauve]

The next steam sale is a fps based sale so it may be on that in about a week, however if it isn’t it does tend to go on sale with most major steam sales (spring, summer, etc)

[waxen falcon]

ok thanks

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think it's a good thing or a bad thing for a weapon to have good cover penetration?

[stone stump]

bad

[lost inlet]

not really

[copper cypress]

Oh~ Ok @@

[earnest phoenix]

has anyoneever actually overpenetrated and killed a civ

[south wharf]

Is the SWAT 4 voice lines don't exist anymore? can't find it in that modding section

[earnest phoenix]

never had that happen to me in over 150h of playing

[south wharf]

any clue?

[stone bay]

How does the soundtrack for the game work exactly

I've noticed that most of the time the game doesn't quite know in what situation i am in and thus the combat soundtrack is almost never present

So i wanted to know

Is this normal ? and if not when is the combat phase of the soundtrack suppose to kick in ? under what conditions ?

[hardy fulcrum]

me neither

[lost inlet]

overpenetration dont apply to body so you dont have to worry much

[vernal bane]

Yes - even with 2 suspects as well

In my use cases, it's a godsend, but in normal gameplay it can be a pain

[vernal bane]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

(I think I deleted the clip of suspect -> civy but that clip should still suffice)

[waxen falcon]

i have big penetration

[copper cypress]

But it is possible to harm the hostages behind the wall lmao

A suspect in the Elephant Level accidentally kills a civilian behind a wall during a firefight.

[lost inlet]

as long you can hit them in the torso then overpen doesnt really happen

[vernal bane]

That's false - in the deleted clip of suspect/civy I shot torso of suspect and it hit the civy behind as well

[copper cypress]

My concern is that those bullets that didn't hit will accidentally hit something else😂

[vernal bane]

Unless there is another explanation for that phenomenon

[lost inlet]

did test this few weeks later after 1.0 drop

only ap 7.62x51 can overpen on the body the rest cannot

unless void rework it

[vernal bane]

Yes

[lost inlet]

i dont use sa 58 that much so ig i dont have many problems with overpen

[twilit oyster]

I was on practice mode, but it does the usual show me results and makes me either reset mission, return to station, or return to menu

That's if I get everything, other than that then nobody arrives

[twilit oyster]

Realistically a terrorist might surrender if flashed enough, gassed or pepper sprayed

[ancient basin]

I can't get through valley of the dolls
I have a VKS, 3 AIs as well with one beanbag, all heavy armour, I have ceramic and the AI steel
what should I do to get it?

House first or the garden

i keep dying in the open living room with a weird walkway on the floor above

no clue what the english name is

[stark horizon]

what I do is clear the top floor from the main entrance and then I dont ender the walkway above because too dangerous. Instead I cycle around the map and enter from the other side

like I walk back to spawn and head downstairs

[ancient basin]

ohhh

and then downstairs do you go into the house or down again?

[stark horizon]

the I clear the walk way and the room on the right

[stark horizon]

then I try to snipe people off the walkway, if its safe I head downstairs from the stairs of the walkway

always snipe people off when you can on this map

from the windows on top floor to the garden also, make it a little safer for later

[stark horizon]

In theory it is safer to go down from the other stairs stairs on the back of the map

[upbeat wadi]

they only show up if you're running around collecting evidence and it takes you long enough

the one time they showed up for me and it wasnt a bug or something was in port hokan cause i spent a LONG time trying to find the last goddamn gun (or body, i forget), turned out it was glitched in the end

but trailers did show up at some point and i wanna say it was at least like 10 minutes after i'd dealt with all the suspects, maybe longer

[stark horizon]

for me they show up upon mission completion every time

as long as all civis and suspects are secured

[cold island]

Ok when you wanna make ur way down to the living room I would gas the living room from the second floor, then enter

throw a gas into the kitchen to ur right as well

Watch out for the windows in the living room Mfs can ambush u from there and you won’t even know where or who TF is shooting

[winter urchin]

@plucky ruin remove the timeout so we can talk like men

@plucky ruin

@plucky ruin

[cold island]

Dude I thought you were tagging me for a moment there LMAO

[winter urchin]

haha

[grim hound]

Do we have mod map but in mall?

[south wharf]

is there an option to disable auto reporting?

[stone bay]

Why on earth does the heavy armor not give 100% protection?

[jolly verge]

only ceramic give 100% protection, but not forever

[teal nexus]

Exactly why I use Steel

Might be heavier but it lasts much longer

(I am dogshit and I use it as a crutch)

I crave the strength and certainty of steel

[molten wren]

Once, it was the weirdest moment cause I killed a suspect and the overpenetration just like scratched a civilian and didn't kill him just incapacitated but I still got the TOC voiceline for RoE violation.

[jolly verge]

it's not that heavier if you use front only one, you still get kevlar at the back and sides if you using heavy vest

[teal nexus]

It’d be kinda cool if I could choose to have front and sides, but I usually just use full coverage

[teal nexus]

Gotta love when my .308 goes through a suspects chest and straight into the dome of a scared shitless Civi

[molten wren]

acceptable casualties dontworryaboutit 👍

[gleaming solstice]

the perp was the last to touch the bullet so its his fault

[teal nexus]

He should’ve been more thoughtful towards the feelings of the civilian behind him, I mean how would he feel in their situation

[sharp fox]

i remember there being a suspect next to a civ, the suspect was shooting at me so i killed him and then out of instinct i aimed at the civilian and killed him too. first time i ever regretted killing a civ 💀

[lost inlet]

well its still your bullet hit the civi so the voiceline still get triggered

[teal nexus]

The next civi i shoot will be ToC for scrutinizing my every move

[lost inlet]

just get based Toc on nexus

[sharp fox]

christ this damn child is tough
i threw a stinger at the crystal meth legion in the first mission and it still lived

[lost inlet]

what is bro up to?

who am i kidding i throw a frag in there to test it out before

[stone bay]

Favorite way to breach doors?

[sleek tiger]

kick and ask questions later 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[stone bay]

prob kick or lockpick

[upbeat heath]

shoot first
questions later

[umbral oar]

breaching shawty

[crude prism]

twerk the door off the hinges

[crude prism]

still waiting on this fr

[frail quartz]

Yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt to be able to customize the plates for front, sides, and back respectively so you can mix and match as you please

I know for certain that I would use steel for the back so that any rounds that pierce my front Kevlar will be lodged in my back and unable to harm any teammates behind me 😎

[stone bay]

not sure if plate carriers exist for plates on the side

[frail quartz]

I mean, I just googled it and it looks like there's plenty of them

[stone bay]

I stand corrected

[crude prism]

you guys don't just hold the plates up and then wrap duct tape around them

looking like the accomplice on lethal obsession

[stark wigeon]

Hey Guys- Im not sure in Mods are watching this chat- but what are the plans for RoN Dedicated Server hosting?

[bold sky]

likely none

people like me been begging for that crap for so long now

its not on their prio list bc most people who care about dedicated servers dont wail loudly

[crude prism]

Last comment from a Void rep was "no server browser with 1.0" (and dedicated server would have to be after that, sooooooooooo)

[bold sky]

yeah lets be real they cant even implement a way to browse servers so you literally have to get mods to do that

[crude prism]

the fact that that there is a mod for a server browser means the information is literally already there AND functional for joining specific lobbies and that Void just hasn't consolidated it into a screen yet lul

jejjin fr

[bold sky]

i miss when people were just crying about the game being hard ngl

at least theres more noises

now its back to just being a pushover unless you try to get mods to do it

give us a toggle switch already

[frail quartz]

That's because it had the excuse of being early access so people assumed the issues would be ironed out eventually

[bold sky]

i mean i did say it before that once they nerf the bots its gonna become boring and im quite sure the game is boring to many people now without mods

[crude prism]

The game is certainly more engaging when you have to apply effort to beat it

But I still don't think that 1.0 was a good place for difficulty lul

[stone bay]

On top of that they didn’t release an update for like 9 months pre-1.0

[crude prism]

🤷 lots of stuff did get reworked/remade completely

[daring flame]

like what?

[crude prism]

SWAT AI, audio system at the least

Commander mode, new maps

Re-breaking the suspect AI counts too

Definitely released too early still too 🤷

[stone stump]

that can't be it

they would never!

[crude prism]

Idk how long ahead of time you have to start buying into events like TGA, but I have a feeling that there was a significant investment both there and with other marketing (twitch ads, irl adspace, other online ads)

Not feasible to delay

Probably had to make those plans at least around the start of 2023, and just couldn't get everything 100% ready before the end of the year

that's my charitable guess, one that doesn't include incompetence lul

[stone stump]

how about not doing that when it's clear you won't finish the game by the end of the year

it's not like they didn't meet the deadlines and shipped like 80% of the features they wanted

it's like 40%

unless they really aimed that low of course...

but i'm repeating myself here tbh

tl;dr to look at it is that it could be handled way better and it wasn't, and that there's no excuse for it

[stable hedge]

Anyone got a tactic on how to make suspects surrender? Everytime I shout at them they just decide to rotate 360 and start shooting (resulting in their death). Without a stun grenade available I am unable to make them give up.

[crude prism]

ayup

[stone stump]

they won't surrender on their own 99% of the time. devs forgot it's a game about swat

[crude prism]

Without nonlethal usage, there's not really a reliable way to do so. Best you can do is attempt to surround/outnumber

[stable hedge]

I remember them surrendering before the 1.0

[stone stump]

it was just as bad back then

[native rune]

Without using suspect ai mods I’ve found that it’s extremely unlikely any suspect will surrender on their own. You know, since having five people pointing rifles at you isn’t enough convincing I guess

[stable hedge]

Is 5 big armed guys aiming their rifles at them not couting as outnumbering?

[jolly verge]

yelling deal too low morale damage, it's will work only if suspect already have low enough, best way is if you playing commander and take negotiator trait

[crude prism]

I mean it is. The game just randomly decides if they give a shit lol

[stable hedge]

I have a negotiator in my team, so far noone has put their hands up on their own

[stone stump]

i love when you "fix" bad design by randomness

[native rune]

It’s still only a percentage chance

[jolly verge]

only one negotiator give you 25% chance to surrender, and it's works only once per suspect

better take at least two of them

[native rune]

And the traits didn’t even work up until recently. They only worked when they were locked, because impeccable competence

[crude prism]

1.0 ready

[stable hedge]

Well then its better to just shoot them at bodyparts where they wont die if I want suspects alive

[crude prism]

If you want suspects alive, just use nonlethal

[stone stump]

why test game if you can... wait, scrap that, they aren't even testing on production

[stable hedge]

nonlethal my ass I shot a guy 5 times in the face and he rammed me with a knife

[stone stump]

there's no bodypart that makes suspects "die less"

[stone bay]

Base game has a lot of issues which can be fixed by mods

[stable hedge]

I mean a headshot is 100% death so I would prefer legs/stomach

[stone bay]

Arms and legs hands feet do

[stone stump]

it's not

[stone bay]

Hands and feet only take 10% damage

[stable hedge]

it isnt?

[stone bay]

Meanawhile torso takes 100% and headshot takes 3-500%

[crude prism]

With gimmicky meta knowledge of the suspect armor/health/morale system, you can force surrenders just by shooting people alot with underpowered bullets

[stone bay]

So yeah it does

[crude prism]

Still not guaranteed tho

[jolly verge]

or just shooting around them with spc (not working on club and lethal obsession)

[stable hedge]

Nerf guns?

[stone stump]

smgs

[crude prism]

9mm AP against legs and high-level armor moment

[stone bay]

Yes they have a morale system so covering fire / suppressing fire, grenades, kicking in doors, etc all impacts it

And these are all different depending on the mission, some actions are more effective vs gangbangers than veterans

If you are interested I recommend downloading fmodel and looking into the AILevels config file

[native rune]

I haven’t tested personally but a lot of people are saying headshots on suspects with pistols will result in an incapacitation and not a death

[crude prism]

can confirm, this was always supposed to be the case too

It was bugged for (at least) all of Adam

[native rune]

So like, the other 70% of the game then?

[crude prism]

No clue, it may come about as an error when they changed the armor system from "light/heavy" to the plate system

[stone bay]

correct it appears they unintentionally added armor to suspects heads

9mm round headshot wil lresult in death in 4U map for example, but not on valley house due to this issue

[crude prism]

maybe if you're playing modded, should incap on both maps in vanilla

[stable hedge]

Funny how this conversation started about me complaining that suspects dont surrender to head armour on enemies

[crude prism]

we like to complain a lot (it comes from a place of love I swear)

[stone bay]

Im too poor to afford the game👍

[stone bay]

interesting

could be

[earnest phoenix]

good to see that you'll still be able to join the home invasion dlc maps without owning it in mp

[umbral oar]

free guns

[humble mauve]

free is mentioned 11 times in the article

All updates to the game + weapons are free by default, and as long as the host of the lobby owns a DLC anyone in the lobby can play it

[earnest phoenix]

[stone bay]

How much does the “DLC” cost rn

Supporter or whatever it is

[humble mauve]

No mention of cost yet besides it being included for supporter owners

[earnest phoenix]

you cant buy it anymore

[humble mauve]

Supporter is no longer for sale

[stone bay]

fahk

kinda wanted to try the BCM MK1

[earnest phoenix]

its literally just a reskin

[stone bay]

Oh lol

[crude prism]

BCM worst rifle in the game no cap

[shy tulip]

Skill issue

[opaque birch]

i wont stand for this 416 slander

[crude prism]

416 is the 2nd worst weapon in the game

[opaque birch]

i wont stand for this pepperball slander

[crude prism]

pepperballs r tasty

[opaque birch]

You arent supposed to eat them vro... you knew that right?? you knew that right vro???????? you knew that right vro????????????????????????????????? surely

[sly matrix]

Yummy spicy air

[sage knoll]

streaming ron on twitch. Twitch name is OperatorSnow556

[stable hedge]

gonna check it out after I finish a match

[sage knoll]

cool beans man

[sage knoll]

https://www.twitch.tv/operatorsnow556

[sudden marsh]

they better not censor you for the night club mission

[sage knoll]

I hope so

[stable hedge]

Right

Anyone knows why when Im shouting at suspects they just be walkin away https://tenor.com/view/blud-gif-12643126864265338406

[sage knoll]

idk

[sage knoll]

what mission u doin?

[sage knoll]

I'll try it but I'll probably die

[severe vault]

Is there a thing in this game where you hallucinate im in practice mode cause I just saw an extra officer walking around

[tawny scroll]

guys just went in random lobbies and everyone losing their minds 😭😭😭

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-andy-samberg-mace-pepper-spray-fight-gif-3854670

“WTF IS HE DOING WHY IS HE SO LOW”

[open field]

Erm what the Singapore

[wraith belfry]

istg if they charge ubisoft prices for this dlc

[silk junco]

its gonna be 50 bucks

[wraith belfry]

hell nah

[acoustic ridge]

i would rather buy a whole other game than spend 50 bucks on a dlc

[wraith belfry]

not when they cant fix their own AI when a whole modding community did it in 24 hours while throwing banger after banger cosmetics, weapons and reskins and maps

[prisma owl]

Any chance you can recommend a AI mod , having alot if issues with the swat AI im stuck on relapse mission and the AI is just making the level much harder

[native rune]

Void seems to have no idea how to fix most of the core issues with their game. Either that or blatant unwillingness.

[wraith belfry]

Swait AI Overhaul, doesnt remove difficulty of the AI like no crack does, but still adds a reasonable difficulty and makes them more responsive to the environment

[wraith belfry]

in the 9 biweekly reports given over 25 cosmetics dropped, 45+ Weapon reskins and attachments were made in addition to modded maps being UPDATED

[prisma owl]

I dont mind the difficulty, but the swat AI is just doing the usual stupid stuff and ive had it , especially on a tuff mission so i wanted to try a mod

[wraith belfry]

i believe that one overhauslt eh swat as well

yeah "swat and ai overhaul"

[prisma owl]

Thanks for the info ill give it a try

[native rune]

The stupid swat ai stuff is cemented in the game, essentially. Mods can make the swat ai more or less alert, tweak reaction times etc but things like bugs, getting stuck and such have been in the game for ages

[prisma owl]

Sometimes i feel i had more fun with the game pre 1.0

[wraith belfry]

the audacity to charge 50 bucks is absolutely atrocious theyre charging half my gas prices

[shy tulip]

Your gas prices are $100 a tank?

Holy fuck

[native rune]

They’re not actually charging that much though are they?

[wraith belfry]

i hate biden as a californian

[shy tulip]

I blame California

[wraith belfry]

it's literally 6 flat fucking dollars per gallon

[shy tulip]

One perk of being in Florida is that I live relatively close to a major gas port

[wraith belfry]

i hate california as much as the next republican

[shy tulip]

yeah imma avoid the politics of it as per our rules

[wraith belfry]

shit im just mad about gas

thank god cotsco exists

[silk junco]

yummy gasoline smells

[native rune]

Yeah, definitely can’t risk conflating RoN with real world politics

[wraith belfry]

real shit there's ppl trynna do that in helldivers already

[opaque birch]

i cant tell if the both of you are just this unaware

[wraith belfry]

in any case 50 fucking dollars to defend your home is wild

[opaque birch]

or if youre joking

[silk junco]

oh i was joking about that

[native rune]

Maybe I should be playing Helldivers instead I don’t know shit about it but the level of people talking about it is kinda crazy

[wraith belfry]

jokingly (i love democracy)

[wraith belfry]

the sad part is this is not a far off reality u can most possibly be right

[opaque birch]

I FUCKING LOVE DEMOCRACY OORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

[shy tulip]

It's a fun game, but just like talking about RoN here, you'd think it's the worse game of the decade by the way their forums and discord talks about it

[silk junco]

i already get the dlc for free

[wraith belfry]

average supporter edition enjoyer

[silk junco]

😎

[sudden marsh]

would rather play Gollum than hear VOID make more promises

its like dutch saying "i got a plan arthur"

[wraith belfry]

id rather remake ron in bonelab

[native rune]

I just need. Somebody. To give me. A LITTLE MORE. TIME JUST—
-Void

[wraith belfry]

gotta give the devs the MAPPA treatment

[sudden marsh]

it seems like their development is on ice, straight hot potato of how they are throwing stuff around yet making little progress.

[opaque birch]

he has a plan just hear him out

[native rune]

I’ve got a plan, it’s a good one…

Lip syncing

[sudden marsh]

hear me out guys..|

Lets announce HOME INVASION DLC!! while our game has many core issues screw that the fans don't care.
because our game is a tactical game thats all that matters, these tacticool fans don't mind us cutting corners

[shy tulip]

(Just ignoring the fact they outlined that the next major update is coming out for free with it)

[sudden marsh]

they also said the same thing with testing swat AI

i wonder how that ended up

[native rune]

Just ignoring the fact the last handful of updates haven’t really fixed shit

[shy tulip]

The SWAT AI are better than most of every games ally AI out there, that's just handsdown how it is. They have some issues, but I am happy to say I've avoided most of em and would take them still over real players

Still waiting for a mod to autokill me on spawn so I can watch the AI play by themselves

[native rune]

Better as in they move to where you point them to go (sometimes)

[sudden marsh]

i spam the go to command and they get so ignorant in priorities

[native rune]

They don’t use cover effectively, they have random blindness streaks, they have random godlike awareness streaks, their grenades lag through the air and vanish from their inventory if you separate them, they won’t use less-lethal before lethal force unless commanded to, they break formation to cuff and collect, pass open areas backwards, etc, etc, etc

[sudden marsh]

id rather have a fallout 4 companion then have to deal with these swat team AI

atleast them getting a fatman and nuking half the area is move effective

[oak copper]

so when pvp?

[native rune]

Seems like the only argument for the core systems being good is, “But I like it” and all the arguments about it being bad are exhaustive lists of things that objectively occur and have been occurring and reported on for ages.

[molten wren]

Not now nor in the near future, and should be the last thing on anyone's mind for RoN in its current state.

Btw there's a mini pvp area you can go to in the headquarters anyway

[twilit rampart]

😭

[waxen eagle]

Is the game worth buying at full price right now?

[sudden marsh]

no, no, no and no

buying it at full price is one of the worst things u can do in life (along with other worser things)
updates are very slow, optimization is poor, AI behavior is bad until they're modded etc,..
Not enough content to warrant its price either.

summary: get it on sale

[stone bay]

Yeah I think so

[shy tulip]

Refer to YouTube footage if you have trouble buying, but you're either gonna get a very hateful yes or a very loving no. Best to decide for yourself

[umbral oar]

the answer is....... maybe

[prime wing]

smarter choice is to get on sale, theres no rush to buy it at full price

[unreal oxide]

Feels like were gonna be the bad guys or like were gonna be against law enforcement

[frail quartz]

I'm pretty sure the entire "morally grey" thing they're talking about is because we ARE law enforcement and raiding people who make you question whether they deserve it or not

Stuff like Ends of the Earth where where they got into illegal weapon modification to pay for their mother's medical bills

[shy tulip]

Yeppers

[eternal bridge]

Anyone lookin' to join a small group?

[frail quartz]

I wondered if it would be too fucked up to have a mission where the entire story is that you were sent to the wrong house and the otherwise innocent house owners fire at you mistaking you for intruders before I realized we already have a school shooting map, so no event is really "too recent" for us

[eternal bridge]

I'm lookin for some cool people to play with; trying to start a small little RoN group to play with

US only tho

[sudden marsh]

#🔎looking-for-players can probably help your chances

[molten wren]

I noticed the SWAT AI saying "hey lets turn off the music" on neon tomb and valley of the dolls when approaching the stage.

I found the prompt to turn off the music in neon tomb but on valley of the dolls I haven't yet.

[vernal bane]

Unless I am mistaken, there is no way in Valley

It could be a bug or the devs completely forgot to add that as a feature, no idea

At least the music in Valley isn't as "loud" as Neon

[molten wren]

true

[frail quartz]

It was probably meant as more of a snarky comment than anything

[molten wren]

ngl I agree with him, the music sometimes masks the sound of foostep and I want it turned off

[lost inlet]

even then you will only hear their footstep when they are literally next to you

[amber dock]

I like how only the host will have to own the dlc for everyone to play the maps, based.

[lost inlet]

wonder what 2 guns they gonna add this time

[upbeat wadi]

i hope it's the m4 and the g3 cause the absolute shitstorm that'd raise would be hysterical

[upbeat wadi]

arguably much more annoying though

[stable kernel]

Very based and suprisingly refreshing in the gaming market.

[upbeat wadi]

second one if i had to guess

[vernal bane]

Eh I never had an issue with either

[upbeat wadi]

everything points towards a future subplot about bad fisa and most likely corruption on the force too (as in lspd). im giving it a 74% chance there's gonna be a mission set on the precinct map

alternatively, it's gonna focus on USIA instead

cause those dudes have been the most "morally gray" ones on average, most of the ex-USIA people you have to take down are like, broken by their work at the company and let down by society so they fell through the cracks, as opposed to cartoonishly evil like voll or the cartel or fisa

[unreal oxide]

Exactly. Its gonna be a harder gunfight too

Fighting left behind is harder, the USIA will bring in everything they can pay incl military intervention and shit to take you down

[upbeat wadi]

the usia arent evil though, even the two (I think?) of theirs you fight in the campaign are EX usia

[royal ocean]

Mk18 is technically an M4 cuz similar form factor

[upbeat wadi]

the lore theory that makes the most sense to me at this time is that they're trying to develop a biochemical robocop basically

completely incorruptible, immune to stress and trauma, loyal without question, as competent as it gets

[unreal oxide]

Damn they shouldnt fucked with murphy

[unreal oxide]

Yea, with the USIAs up in judges ass

Devin weston style

[upbeat wadi]

the cabin in the woods man apparently found out about it and about the atrocities they had to commit along the way, so he lost his damn mind and tried to "warn" you by luring you into his hideout and hitting you with his stupid cave paintings about the reptilians hijacking our eyes or whatever the hell they were about

the ex usia lady who started the vineyard cult may have been a test subject before you (obviously that one didnt go so well and she lost her damn mind too)

[upbeat wadi]

honestly as long as they're serious about the zero tolerance for corruption shit, i dont really see a better option for that city

[teal nexus]

Anybody have some pointers on Valley for S tier? I usally go through the main entrance and down the stairs until I reach the walkway, in which I double back and go through the entrance with the stairs, and then down to the storage theatre area after that

[frail quartz]

Ermmm... the social commentary of the game is that there ARE better options that are not being taken ☝️🤓

[upbeat wadi]

valley for s tier? yeah, my pointer is "just give up trying to get it with swat AI and find yourself some online teammates who know what they're doing"

[teal nexus]

What are friends?

[upbeat wadi]

the swat AI on that map is so fuckin stupid and esoteric that even beating it at ANY rank was a pain in the ass for me

S rank? faggedabaddit

[humble mauve]

I would be careful wording that in that way

[teal nexus]

Like, I was able to solo 23mb pretty easy even after I fucked up quite a few times because the game likes to hit me with, you’re wearing a helmet, yeah, a .45 will pen that no issue

And it’s the same issue on Valley

[upbeat wadi]

like what? the banking sector has crashed, mindjot which kinda came to replace it has morphed into a CP and drugs marketplace and then crashed, the only politician we're told about is clearly corrupt as shit, the city is broke AND getting gangbanged by seventeen critical threats to it at once, lawyers seem to be going missing a lot, social services are obviously next to non-existent

[jolly verge]

none of caliber can pen any helmet, it's must be destroyed to do so, and even if destroyed it's still have ricochet chance

[upbeat wadi]

i dont really think there's any actual social commentary to be found really, it's just a grimdark setting that provides a suitable playground for a swat team (see also: robocop, judge dredd, the punisher, basically any Hero Cop genre story really)

[teal nexus]

What happens is I’ll come face to face with my target, I’ll have my sight picture centered, they shoot, I return fire, but before I can my game freezes, and that’s how I know I’m dead because the game freezes when it pulls that maneuver

[frail quartz]

I mean, one if the main points of the game is that half the missions are either directly caused/worsened by the actions of the government: Ides of March by corrupt politicians, Neon Tomb by indiscriminate bombing of 3rd world countries, Spider by poor support for the homeless, Ends of the Earth by a predatory Healthcare system, the list goes on

[upbeat wadi]

okay so we've outlined the problems this city has
you were talking about solutions though

I don't see any except a batman event, and that's exactly what the USIA is trying to do

[frail quartz]

Simply focusing on solving those which both the government and society as a whole neglects to do, putting out a fire can only help so much when two more appear elsewhere

[analog flare]

the game needs replayability not conspiracy theories

[frail quartz]

Punishing criminals and stopping crime are two completely different things, and Los Suenos focuses more on the former

[upbeat wadi]

the problems the government neglects to solve are the sort of problems only a government CAN solve, it's not something you could fix with a crowdfunding campaign or by volunteering at an inner city primary school

[teal nexus]

Stopping crime can be like slapping a toddler for stealing candy, punishing is grounding him for a month because of it

[jolly verge]

what's your pc specs? Im pretty sure if you freezes npc still can shoot you

[upbeat wadi]

so priority number one is a government that works (i.e. isn't bought and paid for by the cartel or voll types, basically harvey dent not senator fremont). you can't get there unless you start to break the mold in the corrupt current system by actually removing the corrupting forces (cartel, the volls of this word, etc.)

[teal nexus]

GTX 1060 12gb DDR4 RAM and an Intel core I7

[upbeat wadi]

now if nothing else happens at this stage then yeah, there'll be a new cartel, a new voll, a new russian smuggling and human trafficking ring

but if the USIA manages to put a harvey dent in place to complement the swat's team batman, THEN we're starting to get somwhere

[teal nexus]

Not the best but it runs semi alright

[jolly verge]

1060 with 6gb or 3 one?

[teal nexus]

Two I think

[jolly verge]

12gb of ram is pretty much low

[jolly verge]

yeah, not good

[teal nexus]

What’s the MB to GB ratio

[upbeat wadi]

but overall i dont think it's even a plotline in this game, the setting basically has to stay fucked up forever or there won't be a game to set in it

[teal nexus]

1000 right

[jolly verge]

1024

[teal nexus]

So yeah 1 mb under 2 gigs

[upbeat wadi]

there's no fixing megacity 1, there's no fixing night city, and there's no fixing los sueños

[teal nexus]

ron has to be the only game i can say my game somehow has peaked at 278 (dont ask me how) but tends to run at 45

[upbeat wadi]

welcome to ue4 and understaffed coding departments

[frail quartz]

Doesn't that defeat the social commentary of night city too since it's so crappy because of unchecked corporate greed?

[upbeat wadi]

the robocop game does the same thing and has the same stutters when you run around and enter a new zone

[teal nexus]

it always stutters at the exact wrong time too

[frail quartz]

The entire point of social commentary is basically to say "we need change"

[teal nexus]

ive resorted to just using the AI as bullet sponges most of the time

[upbeat wadi]

no, the commentary is just that: watch out, three letter agencies are evil and corporations are all a bunch of JERKS!

[frail quartz]

Saying there's no way of fixing anything kind of negates all of that

[upbeat wadi]

it's not supposed to ever get fixed

if it gets fixed who the fuck would play that game then

[frail quartz]

Yeah but that doesn't mean that the game isn't trying to say that it should

[upbeat wadi]

that's different, it's saying it to you the player, not the character

[frail quartz]

It's supposed to be a reflection of our reality in the sense that we should do everything in our power to not end up like this more than we already are

[upbeat wadi]

and honestly in pretty much all the above examples the social commentary can be summed up as "damn bad things sure are bad huh"

[frail quartz]

Yeah and "here's what's causing it too which the people in charge aren't doing anything about"

[upbeat wadi]

yeah, that's what art does, especially sci fi and especially in the last ~40 years

so far it hasn't exactly been prophetic though for the most part

heart of darkness, now THAT was social commentary

[frail quartz]

Yeah, most of it is exaggeration for the purpose of getting a point across, which RoN is also guilty of

[upbeat wadi]

punishment park, that's another one

fight club, why not

[jolly verge]

i can send you config that will use less video memory, might help with stutters

[upbeat wadi]

all those Hero Man in Grimdark City stories though? ehh bleh
they're fun as hell stories and those settings can definitely be dope and interesting, night city in particular is absolutely great for example

but i dont know if i agree they're very profound

serpico they are not

[teal nexus]

thatd be great! thanks!

[daring flame]

why is there a dlc announcment but nothing in the blog post talks about fixing bugs?

[shy tulip]

DLC content is just one component of our ongoing support for Ready or Not. We have many bugfixes and free content updates in the pipeline.

[daring flame]

i think the order of things got a little mixed up

i hope they dont use some key auth/token system so i can just download the content from nexus

[shy tulip]

That'd be piracy, and would result in any modder doing it getting banned, as well as users caught doing it

[stone bay]

Bro 💀

[prime wing]

there are good reasons why everyone has agreed not to upload the content to modio or nexus

including modders on their own accord

[shy tulip]

Nexus mods Hit Squad ain't no joke

[daring flame]

who is everyone

[shy tulip]

Using their real names. . . Let's just say there's a reason why no one who knows it uses it

[prime wing]

the modders

[tacit gull]

Honestly it sounds like the content is gonna be included with the game, much like supporter edition

[daring flame]

we must have read different blogposts

[tacit gull]

It's just gonna be locked off with a check (hopefully it gets a better check 💀)

[stone bay]

Btw, do you or anyone else know why RoN doesnt use Steam Workshop and instead relies on that awful in game portal

[daring flame]

i think we know why

[prime wing]

a smart guess would be console proofing, but there is no given reason

[shy tulip]

Cause they did, they said it was more friendly on their end, receives more constant update support (which you can look at the lackluster support Valve gives the normal steam app), and forgor the third one

Oh yeah cross platform support

And no, they have explicitly said they have not been paid anything to use Modio.

Idk why I can't spell that word

[stone bay]

Okay well, thanks for the response

Still not a good workshop

[shy tulip]

I think with some more work on Voids end it will be fine in the end

[prime wing]

the main problems with modio is the mods not being unsubbed properly by the system and then having to go the manual route.

Its not consistent

[shy tulip]

I do wonder how they'll fix that issue

[prime wing]

its been almost two years

[shy tulip]

Maybe require safemode to be ran to delete it in-game?

[prime wing]

idk

[shy tulip]

Cause you can't edit paks while the game is reading em

[prime wing]

Maybe people forget to restart the game, but i dont think thats a majority

even with a restart, it will have issues

[stone bay]

Adding to that is the required restart after opening the workshop, even if nothing was changed, which disincentiveses browsing for people whose game takes longer to boot up.
Additionally, the fact that once you installed and deinstalled a mod you cant reinstall it, which disincentiveses trying out mods.

[shy tulip]

I don't see why it wouldn't let you reinstall it if you truly deleted it. The issue is people unsub to it thinking it gets deleted, and then it won't let you reinstall it, because it is still installed.

I think the no button restarting the game is just a bug on Voids end

[prime wing]

my question is

how does the modio folder work exactly

the best option for me has been putting the paks directly in the pak folder, instead of creating subfolders

just copy paste

maybe its something to do with how the folder is handled

i have no clue

afaik there has been 0 word about modio related changes?

not sure if 1.0 update logs had something about it

[shy tulip]

I don't remember there being any

I'd imagine the modio folder exists because of the data file in there, idk the name of it, but also so that Void isn't pumping mods directly into the paks folder

as we see people really should not be touching the paks folder directly unless going to modio

56gb redownload moment

[humble mauve]

daily reminder to not touch windowsnoeditor files

[shy tulip]

^

[stone stump]

daily reminder to uninstall the game, because that will definitely remove pak mods

[stone bay]

So how do I remove the little lad

[shy tulip]

You can go to the paks folder and delete the modio folder, easy fix that way. Maybe they should put a button to open your modio folder in-game, but that still requires closing the game

[stone stump]

unsub first, and only then remove them from the mod.io folder

[shy tulip]

I think putting the game on safemode so it doesn't read the mods should be able to work for removing mods in-game

in the future I mean

Idk if the game can toggle itself into safemode automatically if you open the modio tab, I think once the game reads the pak it can't unread it until it closes

[stone bay]

Thanks

[sharp fox]

you know what would be better

putting the slowmode to 6 hours

[lost inlet]

[stark hollow]

ill do it

[sharp fox]

[stone bay]

Find peace in life

[modern stone]

did they stated the predicted date of game update, or just spring 2024?

[stark hollow]

[leaden holly]

Yall ever wondered canonically, what is the reason only 5 SWAT police are sent to some scenarios that don't make sense, like active shooter scenarios

[modern stone]

funny how some people consider soon differently lmao

[sudden marsh]

its common with VOID, they say "soon" to cover their asses mostly

[modern stone]

yeah i know

[sage knoll]

IM LIVE RN COME WATCH https://www.twitch.tv/operatorsnow556

[lone pelican]

Sending five to the hospital is wild

[stable hedge]

Guys a quick question, how does a paramedic work? It says that he will save an incapacitaded officer live but after one of my guys died he is still dead

[shy tulip]

We are just one team

You can find the other teams on certain maps

But they secure other areas on their own

Twisted nerve mentions that they’re clearing other locations at the same time

They hold security on Brisa cove

[opaque birch]

isnt it cuz the department is underfunded and stuff

i remember reading something about that somewhere

[velvet steeple]

Imagine how sick a power off night club mission would be

only light from sellphones

the ambience it already has

[sage knoll]

Going live on twitch if yall wanna see som Ron gameplay https://www.twitch.tv/operatorsnow556

[acoustic ridge]

whats default keybind to turn off hud?

found it

[copper cypress]

When will you guys use your kick on the door?

I find that kicking down doors becomes quite redundant when someone in the squad is carrying a breaching tool @@

But I saw many people using door kicking in many YT videos.

[raven schooner]

kicking a door allows you to see into the room faster, preventing the AI from unloading on your teammates while they use the shotgun/blow it with C2