👮ron-discussion

[drifting fog]

but i like using them especially on maps like farm or postal service

[dark gyro]

Modded is not a good alternative to justify how shitty VOID is at handling their game

[drifting fog]

yeah they obv didnt prioritize the long range scopes

[dark gyro]

The sights as is are useless and for funnies

[drifting fog]

idm tho game is still good

[tough spire]

There's no world in which 12x is useful in RoN, but the Elcan is fine.

[drifting fog]

greased palms parking lot

also looks cool

[tough spire]

For just that one single stretch? When the Elcan can do it?

[dark gyro]

Is there a way to cycle through the 1x4 or is it just an ELO with the magnifier on and you can't do anything about it

[drifting fog]

are we gatekeeping sights now lol

[tough spire]

No, just saying it's not useful.

[dark gyro]

If you want to make a buffoon out of yourself you can do whatever

[tough spire]

You give up all the rest of your situational awareness for a single stretch of the map

[drifting fog]

imo it looks cool i dont mind if its useful or not

[tough spire]

That's super valid.

I will never argue with that point

[dark gyro]

This is why I have the Attak-r, I never ADS anyway

on a carbine it looks good

[frail quartz]

Anyways I just realized that the holosight mod I've been using for months now has broken FOV with ADS zoom enabled so the zoom is a lot lower than it should be

[dark gyro]

compared to the other dot sights

[frail quartz]

I was wondering why I had so much trouble focusing on anything while I was aiming

[tough spire]

Wait do people actually play with ADS zoom?

[frail quartz]

Yeah

My hyperactive brain needs to focus on what I'm aiming at

[drifting fog]

ads zoom feels weird to use

[frail quartz]

I have enough trouble tracking objects as is

[drifting fog]

i can see why others would use it tho i just like being able to have full fov the entire time

[tough spire]

Ewwww

[fiery flame]

when will i be able to dual wield B92X's

[frail quartz]

I don't really have an issue clearing rooms with ADS zoom enabled

[tough spire]

Why would you ever want to screw your FOV whenever you aim.

[vocal night]

ads is unreliable when moving

[frail quartz]

I can see better 🤷‍♂️

[dark gyro]

for me it's just precise selective fire with the laser pointer, I don't need to ADS at all unless the target isn't aware of my presence, which is practically never a thing

[gaunt turtle]

payday x ready or not dlc

[fiery flame]

you made me think about who would win between payday gang or ready or not swat team

[frail quartz]

It makes me feel more safe being in ADS since I know where my reticle is and I don't have to go through the ADS animation if I spot someone

I usually shift walk around corners/in combat anyways

[dark gyro]

JIMMY FUCKED THE SNIPUH

[fiery flame]

jimmy after digesting 12 bags of cocaine to heal health

[frail quartz]

D platoon watching as the bullets they fire phase through the 4 completely unarmored bank heisters because they have a dodge build

[vocal night]

high ping d platoon members are already used to that shit

[fiery flame]

Swat team watches as dallas gulps down some wiskey and completly ingoress all the bullets that just hit him

What if i dont feel like following ROE today

[lucid minnow]

In the briefing for carriers of the vine it says there's an officer pinned down in the courtyard. Is this officer, or their body, found in the actual map? There's no objective saying 'confirm downed officer' or anything/

[modern birch]

omg guys, Tilly apparently died in the school shooting at Watt College! 😭 😭 😭 (you can see it in evidence locker, "Tilly's bag". "sadly, she would not see it come true" is the last sentence... that probably means what I think that it means?

[fiery flame]

i just witnessed a man survive a shot to the head

[vocal night]

thats common occurence in los suenos

[frail quartz]

Natural selection has gradually made skulls of Los Suenos citizens thicker to slow down bullets

[vocal night]

los suenos secret service can stop 556 on their forehead

[stable kernel]

It’s a strange oversight from the devs that there are no bodies or bullet holes or casings or anything. Granted there are a couple of graves behind the greenhouses, but it seems to me that dead cult members would be buried there by the look of it. It’s my assumption that the dead officer would be in the pyre in the courtyard and then be burned in a ritual of sorts.

Or maybe they rushed it out and didn’t care to fix it.

[lucid minnow]

Maybe so

although i would like to say the amount of hype for ready or not has been insane, and although the devs have been slow to implement fixes i feel that they will come in due time

in response to the whole "rushed out and didnt care to fix it"

[fiery flame]

Some man just stoped 2 .45 JPH to the skull and he is just incompacitated

he had no armor

[vocal night]

thats los suenos for you

[fiery flame]

no way

this man just got up

i think he is on something

instead of the double tap, los suenos needs the triple tap

[daring flame]

i swear the suspects arent human,i emptied 30 bullets of 5.7 jhp into a suspect and he stood there unfazed

[frail quartz]

Reminds me of the second Bolton guard this guy killed in this video #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[daring flame]

fuck me that gun is beautiful

[fiery flame]

he had dementia and forgot that he got shot

therefore, he did not get shot

sure he has holes in him, but that was prob like mosquitos or something

[daring flame]

are you trying to troll me

[stone bay]

when the doctor tells you that you have dementia but you don't remember asking

[bitter field]

When does the second box under the santa muerte statue unlock?

I'm wondering if I'm oblivious and just missed it this whole time or if it was a recent S unlock

[fair cave]

Sooooooo if a civilian reaches into their back pocket, and I don’t know if it’s a weapon or not am i clear for shoot to kill????

[terse merlin]

civilian

[fair cave]

Is that a yes?

[terse merlin]

You're supposed to positively identify the situation before making a decision, rather than assuming

[fair cave]

But what if I feel my life is in danger

[daring flame]

shoot

[terse merlin]

Also not sure if it's intentional or not but I've been able to forcefully cuff civs that bring out their phone

[fair cave]

Mmmmmmmmm I think I’ll just risk it in court and just shoot them

[daring flame]

yeah just tell the therapist you were "scared" hah

[terse merlin]

If your ai squadmates let you get that far

[fair cave]

“I felt my life was in danger. I had no other option“ just ignore the fact I shot them 15 times after they were on the ground

[stone bay]

i just got 1 shotted by an dipshit with a shotgun

im going to kill that same npc everytime i see him now

i dont care if he surrenders he will die

[vocal night]

anyone know how exactly far taser goes?

i know it goes quite far but would it go all the way in greased palms truck area?

[dreamy garden]

Does anyone know how to keep the replays on

[waxen grove]

where do i give the feedback?

[dreamy garden]

every time I close the game it just disables itself

[shy tulip]

#📩feedback-reports-channel read the pins for the format

[shy tulip]

If you were standing at the truck in the center of the back area, the one you can go infront of or behind and has a gap between the trailer, I would say from the front of the truck you can hit maybe to where Jack can spawn.

Not far enough to reach all the way across if someone is there.

[waxen grove]

that is quite funny but i like they are doing this. all they need to do is boot up swat 4 or hell probs swat 3 as well and see how they react. then look at ron's ai and ask "Will a real human react like this" to how the ai reacts in the levels. The fact they got this far without thinking "oh wow we made all the suspects ex military sociopaths"

Yeah the ex military part is almost fixed but they are still sociopaths.

im not saying to copy swat ai but to look at how they reacted and how each suspect felt unquie and not the same code on a new model for each level, then with that fresh in the mind ask the meaninful questions

[empty epoch]

Do you need to complete every single lvl on permadeath to unlock the gold watch? such as cars dealership, port, hospital ecct

[kindred temple]

you need to complete the whole game

so yes

also without losing a single officer

[empty epoch]

Alright, thank you

[empty epoch]

I am almost there just got 3 more missions

[kindred temple]

relapse is the hardest one

[empty epoch]

Nah valley of doll houses is the hardest imo

[kindred temple]

well i ruined my ironman mode on relapse like 5 times

[empty epoch]

Rip I hope I don't die on that large map

Also, do you know if traits stack?

[kindred temple]

3 shots in the arm from a g3 and you’re already half

[kindred temple]

some i think?

veteran doesn’t stack

[empty epoch]

Example: nutr and armorer

[kindred temple]

not sure

[stable lagoon]

Do the suspects in Sins of the Father have massively cranked HP? Feels like they survive way more than any other mission's suspects.

[kindred temple]

use AP rounds

[stable lagoon]

Oh believe me, I was.

[empty epoch]

Is sins clementine hotel?

[stable lagoon]

Yeah.

Rogue agents.

[kindred temple]

ap doesn’t always penetrate their armor

it seems like it

[stable lagoon]

Ah. Never even thought of the possibility AP rounds could fail.

[kindred temple]

also if im not wrong AP decreases damage to the flesh

[empty epoch]

Also, can you switch officers and still be able to get the gold watch

[kindred temple]

yeah i think

dont fire them

might wanna use paramedic trait

[empty epoch]

I haven't yet

What does the paramedic trait do?

[kindred temple]

saves an incapacitated officer’s life during mission

[empty epoch]

But, most officers die instead of getting incap

[kindred temple]

thats like

it depends i think

also im not sure if you can send them to therapy

i mean i did but idk

[empty epoch]

Well, if I don't get the gold watch you'll know why

[lucid elk]

"Losing an officer" is so vague it's almost fucking funny how VOID didn't think it was too vague.

[topaz cedar]

the Tavor and Galil ace would be great guns to add in an update

[molten wren]

Is it normal the loading time for rust belt takes a few minutes?

[neat robin]

Yes

It’s fairly normal for all maps

[molten wren]

The other maps even carriers of the vine seem to load within 20 seconds for me but rust belt alone takes like a long time

[neat robin]

Weird

[copper cypress]

Does the shield have durability? Or is it just out of sight?

[topaz cedar]

the f90 is the only bullpup in the game so it would be nice if it had some bullpup buddies like the AUG and TAVOR

[tough spire]

Famas or bust

[vocal night]

p90 is also bullpup

it would be nice to have bullpups in a cqb oriented game tho

[neat robin]

The F90 is literally just an AUG with fancy furniture

[vocal night]

but first barrel length actually has to matter

[neat robin]

Id love an L85, FAMAS, etc

[vocal night]

famas without carry handle

[neat robin]

Technically every pistol is a bullpup

[topaz cedar]

yeah but the F90 IS AUSSIE SO ITS BETTER 🇦🇺

[tough spire]

L85 is trash tho

[neat robin]

Fuck no

[topaz cedar]

FAMAS and TAVOR would be my most wanted addition

[tough spire]

Why would you do that

[topaz cedar]

burger without the meat lettuce tomato mustard just bread

[neat robin]

If they gave the FAMAS the G36C treatment i think i would legitimately become gerard irl

[tough spire]

Tavor is a meme gun. May as well do FN2K

[topaz cedar]

nah nah nah tavor is legit

it was in all the classic modern warfare games

[vocal night]

we already have g36 without carry handle

why not famas too

[neat robin]

Tf gave you that idea??? The tavor is 100% serious

[tough spire]

G36 without carry handle is valid furniture. The FAMAS felin never took off.

[topaz cedar]

if not the tavor then the galil ace for the full counter strike comparison

[neat robin]

Yeah and it’s awful

[topaz cedar]

i feel like a galil ace would be a good addition because its like the tacticool AK the ak-12 wishes it was

[tough spire]

Yeah that's why the tavor famously replaced all our m4s and got serious bids and... oh wait.

[topaz cedar]

it's almost like the tavor is israeli and the us would want a domestically produced gun

[neat robin]

Americans think they’re the only military in the world

[neat robin]

Exactly

[tough spire]

It's literally a US based game.

[vocal night]

we have all kinds of export guns in the game

[topaz cedar]

what US force uses the f90 lol

[vocal night]

also another ar platform gets boring after a while

[neat robin]

Like 5% of the guns ingame are American

[upbeat wadi]

old meme, it's been unfucked since the original catastrophe

[tough spire]

But more importantly, it never saw widespread use like most of the things we have in game now.

[tough spire]

You mean by replacing it entirely with the 416?

[topaz cedar]

also worldwide spec forces outfits should be added

[bright shale]

Is a console release possible? If so, does anyone know if it's currently on the Devs' minds right now?

I really wanna play this game, bro

[topaz cedar]

SAS GIGN Sayeret

[topaz cedar]

they'd probably wanna get the pc version running better first

[neat robin]

When exactly did the SLR, F90, SPC, or any other similar guns ingame become widespread

[topaz cedar]

there needs to be way more SAS mods i'm serious

[bright shale]

Of course, I just wanna know if I'll eventually have my hands on this game

[tough spire]

The AK platform, the Aug platform, or the AR15 platform?

What an absurd question

[neat robin]

I’m specifically talking about the versions used ingame

[bright shale]

Everything about it kicks ass to me, but I'm definitely not able to buy a PC working at Subway

[neat robin]

Especially with the quality of the food there

[topaz cedar]

le gun shoudn't be added because le us doesnt use it is dumb and restrictive

the us doesn't use optiwands

[tough spire]

You're the only one pushing that goal post. I don't care about the specific models they're using in game since they aren't even accurate.

[bright shale]

Who really cares? More obscure varients of popular guns are more interesting

[neat robin]

Agreed

And more obscure guns overal

[topaz cedar]

the Tavor and ACAR would be cool

and FAMAS

maybe even a Malyuk or two

[neat robin]

Blunderbuss

[topaz cedar]

sawn off shotgun

they should add an 80s mode

with like 80s tacticool

[neat robin]

.500 magnum revolver

[inland dove]

so uhh

[topaz cedar]

uzis, desert eagles, massive laser sights

[tough spire]

FN2K seems most likely since they're already FN fanbois

[inland dove]

is there a sandbox mode in the game

[bright shale]

Really wish I saw more M70s and other less known Kalash varients

[bright shale]

YES

[neat robin]

Practice

[inland dove]

can you spawn?

[vocal night]

isnt that the opposite of sandbox

you cant customize your team

[topaz cedar]

every single gun from counter strike and mw2 should be in RON

also F2000

more bullpups

[bright shale]

I'd piss myself if a SWAT officer in a floral shirt and aviators kicked down my door and sprayed akimbo Desert Eagles at me, everyone else here would too

[neat robin]

Wdym

[inland dove]

spawn stuff

[neat robin]

Like gmod? No

[inland dove]

sad :(

[bright shale]

Want a VHS-D2

[tough spire]

The intervention in RoN would be worthless. I'm here for it.

[topaz cedar]

what you're looking for is the modding engine

[topaz cedar]

quickscope some fools

[neat robin]

Chauchat

[tough spire]

That thing is absurdly huge. If they modelled it correctly unlike MW2 it'd be so ungainly you couldn't even quick scope it in CQC

[topaz cedar]

there should be a postgame no-holds-barred mode where you can shoot civvies

[bright shale]

Add an Auto-5

[topaz cedar]

and incendiary grenades

[bright shale]

Maybe a modernized Thompson

[topaz cedar]

when will void add an AA12 smh unplayable

[neat robin]

Let me mount an M2 browning on Eli

[topaz cedar]

M1 garand

add the prototype mp7 in half life 2

and the mp5 grenade launcher in half life 1

[neat robin]

.50 bmg is the optimal law enforcement calibre

[tough spire]

The Mp7 with a surprise grenade launcher?

[neat robin]

Tau cannon

With all the knockback and overcharge shit

[topaz cedar]

add bhopping void

add butterfly knife fade void

[neat robin]

Add rocket jumping

[tough spire]

Didn't MW2 have the Kriss Vector? I could see that being added

[topaz cedar]

yeah it could

also add steam decks, they are used in modern combat

[neat robin]

Add butt pl- I mean push daggers

[neat robin]

Add the javelin (AT launcher)

Also add the javelin (pointy stick)

[topaz cedar]

shadow daggers owners trying not to make the buttplugs joke for 5 minutes:

[neat robin]

I don’t own em

[topaz cedar]

thats why you haven't been making the joke every 5 minutes :3

they should add an f-111 aardvark

[neat robin]

A10 warthog

[topaz cedar]

Israeli iron beam

[neat robin]

Fallout 4 assault rifle

[topaz cedar]

goofy ahh weird fallout 3 ak

[neat robin]

Service rifle

NCR SWAT

[topaz cedar]

i was gonna joke about bayonets but like i honestly could've used one in some levels

[neat robin]

Taser bayonets

[topaz cedar]

add mustard gas, cs gas doesn't work well enough

let me use human shields, why do the suspects get to have all the fun

[neat robin]

That’s actually not a terrible idea, under barrel taser payday style

[topaz cedar]

add an underbarrel shotgun attachment for blowing open doors

[neat robin]

Also not a bad idea

Masterkey would be fun

[topaz cedar]

add underbarrel grenade launchers

[neat robin]

Again not a bad idea

[topaz cedar]

switch from mod.io to steam workshop

[neat robin]

TRUE

[topaz cedar]

i can't think of a single benefit mod.io has to steam workshop

[neat robin]

Console support i imagine

[topaz cedar]

is mod.io on console

[neat robin]

Idk but it’s more likely to be than workshop

[topaz cedar]

make it so if you arrest a suspect they tell you were a bomb is

[neat robin]

Again not a bad idea

[topaz cedar]

make the ai better

[neat robin]

Make the game fun

[topaz cedar]

change all the ai to s1mple and make it so they can wallbang you from 50 metres away

[neat robin]

So revert to unpatched 1.0

[topaz cedar]

add atf tanks

the atf had tanks when they raided WACO why can't we have tanks, voiiiiiiiid

[neat robin]

Make CS flammable and give us flare guns (unrelated i promise)

[topaz cedar]

add incendiary grenades

and white phosphorus grenades

[neat robin]

Remove the stupid police brutality arrest anims

If you wanna get up on a high horse at least be consistent about it ffs

[plucky sage]

Wait, the Btch slap?

[neat robin]

Yeah

[plucky sage]

It's so useless

[neat robin]

Yep

It’s textbook police brutality

In a game that preaches so hard about how cops aren’t above the law

It’s blatant hypocrisy

[plucky sage]

It also doesn't add anything to the game and just feels plain weird

[neat robin]

Yep

I’m gonna sleep before the ron anger overtakes mr

[vocal night]

but its funny

[empty epoch]

I completed permadeath mode and got the hermit badge and the world badge

what else do i need for the gold watch?

[quick ocean]

That should be “all” you have to do. It seems there’s a bug where people don’t always get the watch. Sometimes people do get the watch but no achievements

[stable lagoon]

You really should be able to adjust scope magnification.

[stable lagoon]

I always assumed he was prepping the zipcuffs by smacking them on the suspect to open them.

Still weird but slightly more logical.

[bright shale]

Good night, ladies

[marsh dagger]

Why did they make the car dealership so confusing in the 1.0 update

[bitter mason]

They made it smaller. Bit less. Confusing imo just the layout is different and the entry points don't work also no map fsr

[marsh dagger]

Yea

[south phoenix]

Cars?

What game am I playing😭🙏

[bitter mason]

also a huge missed opportunity for a second detective to be alive and inside instead of just the dead one

[marsh dagger]

The mission is clearing a car dealership 💀

[south phoenix]

OH

Im at ides of march rn i thought u meant driving a car

[marsh dagger]

💀

Would be funny ngl

[south phoenix]

Shooting ai is bad enough imagine driving ai

[stone bay]

why is it so hard to see the gun

like it is so fucking dark when im trying to customize it

[midnight goblet]

whats better bodycam reshade or recorded or not

[stable lagoon]

Yeah I found that super weird. Briefing talks about two detectives being there undercover but one of them is just nowhere to be found.

[acoustic eagle]

the best part about using the pepperball gun is you can harass civilians without getting a unauthorized use of force

as long as you aim at the floor next to them

[midnight goblet]

anyone know?

[stable lagoon]

Speaking of car dealership, had a civilian refuse to comply even after being tazed and a suspect walks in and guns him down. Deserved.

Like, just sit down so I can clear the rest of the room, jackass.

[stone bay]

grow a pair

[compact sequoia]

does anyone have a copy of player respawn mod they can dm me? the reupload on nexus is taken down

[copper cypress]

If I equip AP and JHP for AI teammates, which one will they use first?

[jolly verge]

they should use ap like you but what the point?

since they aimlock on torso only (sometimes hit arms) ap is better for them if suspects use armor

[midnight goblet]

It seems I’m randomly unlocking levels

[copper cypress]

I don’t know lol

It's easier for JHP to kill unarmored suspects, and it's easier for AP to kill armored suspects, right?

[jolly verge]

Mostly yes. Some JHP ammunition can pen armor aswell, like 300 blackout jhp will pen l3a armor

and almost all jhp have 0.7x damage for limbs when ap only 0.3x

[copper cypress]

On the other hand, when AP has X0.7 damage, JHP only has X0.3?

[jolly verge]

All AP have 0.3x limb damage, ALMOST all JHP have 0.7x.
4.6x30, 5.7x28 and 7.62x51 JHP have 0.3x limb damage instead 0.7 for some reason (balance i guess?)

You can check spreadsheet by MMMM, there is all damage values as well as multipliers for every body part

[copper cypress]

Okay

[clear stream]

man, one unarmored suspect tanked 4 shots of 762 nato

[karmic tide]

Hold up, isn’t the piano track on the spider The same as the piano from ave, maria

[midnight goblet]

doing carrier of the vines i believe it is, cant find where the last few ppl are im so confused

[clear stream]

it is maybe on the other house on the north side

[midnight goblet]

Yh I’ve sorted that house, I’ve tried doing search area button but nothing happens

[clear stream]

underground perhasp?

[midnight goblet]

Checked

Any reason why search area not working?

[clear stream]

bug

its known to be bugged

[midnight goblet]

Great

[clear stream]

you just to find it for yourself

[midnight goblet]

Idk what to do

[midnight goblet]

I’ve checked everywhere

[fiery flame]

i think one of the ai just cliped me

he poppe out from around a corner did a 360 and nailed me in the head with a revolver

[midnight goblet]

@clear stream there’s one building idk how to get to I see

[copper cypress]

Are you sure you didn't alert the suspect too much?

I still have reaction time when I encounter a suspect @_@

Not sure if it's because I rarely break or fire.

[midnight goblet]

If I did when commanding team what happens

[clear stream]

in the basement, there are stairs

that stairs lead to the tower

[midnight goblet]

I died

[copper cypress]

Is it reasonable for me to use 5.56 AP to kill a suspect without body armor with one shot? I missed his head and he died😨

I remember I didn't use full auto mode or continuously pull the trigger

[foggy zinc]

You may have actually just hit him in the head or fired to shots to his neck or sumn; there's no suspect in the game that gets incapped by one shot of 5.56 AP.

[copper cypress]

Oh~ got it. Thanks

[willow egret]

where can i find volls office computer?

[somber plover]

2nd floor

[willow egret]

ty. lol. found it seconds after i asked for it... 😄

[somber plover]

oh lol

[wary shard]

Do you guys still get frame drops

[limber steppe]

It's weird to me how the devs didnt make SWAT ai utilize the civilian order feature, the friendly officers can already reliably recognize threats, in the form of open thresholds, etc.
At the very least they could make the ai not go in for the restrain if the civilian/suspect is in a position that would make them vulnerable

Also, I can't be the only one annoyed about SWAT AI stealing my restrains, especially if I've ordered the civ to move in my direction

[vague socket]

any one agree a reppeling feature would be nice?

[lucid elk]

Yes and no.

[vague socket]

elaborate

[foggy zinc]

There's no map in the game that would benefit from it and It doesn't fit in a SWAT shooter imo

[vague socket]

the hotel one and SWAT does repeal but i get it

i also think we need the 2 shielkds back

[vestal mauve]

i still want tactical ladders

[vague socket]

Yes

elphent would be good with a laddar and window breaching

also a hallgan tool

[gaunt turtle]

i hope VOID adds a Barrett 50. with AP rounds

[plucky sage]

Dual wield

[gaunt turtle]

ill do you better: dual wielding SMGs

[vague socket]

a marksman wepon class would not be a bad idea

[gaunt turtle]

eh

jokes aside where would that be used

[vestal mauve]

bro ur engaging at like 50 feet or less

[gaunt turtle]

yea

[foggy zinc]

Port and Greased Palms

[plucky sage]

It would most certainly be a bad idea

[gaunt turtle]

just use an LPVO

[plucky sage]

Get glasses not a bigger scope

[vestal mauve]

nah carbines can handle the ranges on those maps

[gaunt turtle]

yep

[vestal mauve]

that being said, I would like the M14 for completing the campaign

[serene socket]

How many gb is ron?

[foggy zinc]

I think it was like 40-45?

[somber plover]

56gb

[foggy zinc]

sus

[coarse osprey]

[vestal mauve]

DON'T SAY IT DON'T THINK IT DON'T SAY IT DON'T THINK IT DON'T SAY IT DON'T THINK IT

[ruby talon]

anyone else have a weird bug where the character kinda vibrates while leaning with "Q" and "E". was never a problem before but now happens all the time. And its not a mod causing it as it happens in safe mode as well

[frail quartz]

Don't we already have that class with the SA58?

[thorny warren]

i dont understand, the brief of the second mission says that that one of the civilians is dead however i find her alive every time, completely unaware on whats going on, false report?

[vague socket]

I mean like semi auto rifle made for long to mid distance

[frail quartz]

Yeah, it was a fake Swatting called in by one of the streamer's viewers

[frail quartz]

So the SA58?

[vague socket]

Yes I guess

[thorny warren]

but its the streamer who called it, i think what you said was what meant to happen but they changed it

[frail quartz]

It wasn't actually supposed to be the streamer, it was someone imitating his voice

[thorny warren]

well at least the police found his dark secret

[vestal mauve]

Lmao most obvious context clue in history and people still don't get it

[copper cypress]

Does it move faster without any bulletproof steel plates?

[vague socket]

read the disc i belve so but not by much i think ceramic is honbesly the best

[copper cypress]

It is difficult to perform some tactical actions without running in this game😅

[vague socket]

also suggestion its a personal one but u can switch ur low ready to high ready

and that is ur run buttion

[hasty oak]

exhales

[empty epoch]

Thanks for the response, what a waste of time.

[craggy yew]

Having a job is balancing saving money and trying not to larp as John ready or not

[ionic gale]

Helo

Helo fellow officers

[eager merlin]

no

[stable lagoon]

I wish I could use the suspect guns. That'd be fun.

Fuckin' SWAT dude running around with a Tec-9 and a FAL.

[topaz raptor]

yóu can, it's called Sniper Or Not

[stable lagoon]

Without mods.

[topaz raptor]

gl with that

[tough spire]

You already have access to a FAL

[copper cypress]

There is a grenade-like projectile. Is it a less-lethal weapon or a non-lethal weapon?

[empty epoch]

The stinger?

[copper cypress]

All I know is that flash bangs and tear gas are non-lethal weapons.

[empty epoch]

The stinger looks like a grenade, and it is non lethal

[copper cypress]

Yup

[tough spire]

There's basically no such thing as a "non-lethal" weapon which is why they are called less than lethals.

[copper cypress]

Oh~

Is it possible that the suspect was wearing goggles?

So far I have only seen suspects wearing gas masks.

[tacit gull]

Suspects can wear goggles on certain maps

[ionic gale]

Man, bro, I’m still shook how I was practically dumb dumb with the gas mask belief

I wasn’t gassing them, but it turns out they were just as vulnerable to gas for some reason

[topaz raptor]

yes their masks are cosmetic

[shrewd oriole]

I want better guns

Wish they had the thing where the gun can move slightly, point shooting from squad

[cloud crag]

boohoo use the stairs fatty

[shrewd oriole]

Funniest thing I've seen in a while.

[pliant musk]

can i just leave the game running for people to complete therapy or do i have to play a mission

[cerulean elbow]

do the first one with bean bags

it's easy and it counts towards the Therapy missions since you have to do missions

I just did a no-hit run on the school shooting and everyone still got stressed :/

[empty epoch]

I did the first mission alone and they all got stressed aswell

[pliant musk]

wdym

[cerulean elbow]

oh weird, usually doing a mission with all non-lethal makes everyone happy

[tacit gull]

Aiming deadzone?

[shrewd oriole]

Maybe

[tacit gull]

The game used to have a system where the slower you moved the smaller your deadzone would be

[pliant musk]

so you need to do missions for people in therapy to "heal"?

[cerulean elbow]

yea

the number counting down tells you how many you need to complete before they return Content

[pliant musk]

oh ok

thanks

and mod to change that?

[cerulean elbow]

Not sure, but there's probably one for it

[pliant musk]

huh? i had two people available and in the mission there are still 4?

[buoyant onyx]

In my loadouts I cant scroll and when i have too many I cant see my top ones. Is there a way to scroll for that or am I missing something

[summer copper]

better in what way

[summer copper]

the game will auto fill non-named squad members

but the benefit of having hired officers instead of the auto-fill is that the hired ones have the benefits

[pliant musk]

ohhhhh ok makes sense thanks. i was afraid of having to do the mission alone

[summer copper]

nahh youll thankfully never have to worry about that in singleplayer

but you can do that if you launch multiplayer and then just dont invite a friend

[stable lagoon]

You know what I want most in this game? A quick restart button.

It's a massive pain getting dragged back to HQ every single time I get dead.

[tacit gull]

Practice mode

[stable lagoon]

No.

[tacit gull]

Your loss

[tawdry nymph]

Question

Would anyone watch a 1hr long RON play through xd

[craggy yew]

Depends on the quality of play

[tawdry nymph]

fair

[craggy yew]

If your going through levels like John wick yeah that’s pretty cool

[tawdry nymph]

ok i might do that then cause that would seriously be funny. john wich with a pepper ball gun armed with a 57\

[craggy yew]

But it never hurts to upload a video

[ionic gale]

Day 628939499599 waiting for the ELEOTEC for the G36C…

I’m losing my damn mind

[tawdry nymph]

i mean i did a playthrough of lethal obcession and its about 1hr long consider i add some other fails

which is currently rendering

[ionic gale]

Guys what if the ready or not was the friends we made along the way?

[mighty elbow]

damn that's deep

[tawdry nymph]

well that would be weird

a bunch of SWAT officers that was trained together became friends as they went along the missions...

huh (that or their friendship grows

[frail quartz]

Realistically wouldn't it be "half of my original friends are dead and the remaining ones are now scared of fireworks"

[ionic gale]

Man I should play SWAT 4 more :o

Haven’t played it in a while

[tawdry nymph]

ngl... thats mood for RON

they rather got shot, discharged or got PTSD

(also should I make those video go live now?

[ionic gale]

Im the guy to run a shotgun lol

I blast 12 gauge into the suspects in my lobby lol

[rotund juniper]

has anybody noticed the AI on port are way too accurate

they will headshot you consistently from across the map

[drifting fog]

yeah port has some crazy accurate suspects

[umbral oar]

no they do not

[drifting fog]

i've only gotten headshotted without me seeing the suspect a couple times

but out of nowhere i'll get sprayed by someone who is across the map

and they'll hit a decent chunk of their shots

[summer copper]

okay so which pistol is actually the best because people say its the five seven but that thing is a damn spud gun

[ionic gale]

It’s really based on the suspects your up against, your skill, ammo type, and other stuff like weapon caliber, ammo capacity and recoil

In my opinion… I use like semi automatic 9 mm pistols

[drifting fog]

in my opinion... its not that deep lol

[ionic gale]

If you’re using a shield… go for the 9mm or the Five seven

[ionic gale]

True

[ionic gale]

Those type of weapons have like the most ammo capacity, and while using the shield, you are going to at some point to fire a lot of rounds at the suspect

[drifting fog]

9mm pistol or 5.7

[ionic gale]

The USP is also a nice choice

[drifting fog]

just shoot slowly and dont spam fire

or you will miss all of your shots

[summer copper]

i'm using the USP45 for port

i like the stopping power of .45

[fiery flame]

i treat the five seven like its an smg

[ionic gale]

I feel like at some point people do just spam fire so capacity is needed if that does happen, but people should probably liek maybe try not to msg dump

[summer copper]

people who mag dump need to learn to aim

[ionic gale]

The M11 Compact (that I have reskined to a P226) is my favorite

[summer copper]

i'm using SA58 for easy 2 taps

[fiery flame]

5.7 sharp nerf darts
9mm mid
.45 recoil but damage

[summer copper]

recoil matters not to me

[drifting fog]

yeah i will only ever mag dump if im running full auto rifles for fun

[ionic gale]

Honestly, unless you’re using a shield, I think pistols are really what they are…

[drifting fog]

even then its in very short bursts

[ionic gale]

They’re just back ups to your primary

I use them a lot personally because I like using a variety of weapons but most people just ignore them and honestly I don’t blame them

[frail quartz]

the 9mm has more limb damage, but both 9mm and 5.7 take three shots to the torso to down a suspect (two shots on normal HP suspects with JHP 5.7)

[summer copper]

i've never gone full auto on a serious attempt but sometimes i'll use the UMP45s burst

[ionic gale]

Some even like sacrifice, having no pistol mags just to have more primary ammo

[summer copper]

but again it just drains ammo

[fiery flame]

i turn up Razormind while doing Elephant

[ionic gale]

:o

Man if I could send a picture of Mini Dallas, I would definitely do it

Man, I haven’t played payday in a while matter of fact

[fiery flame]

payday 3 kinda sucks rn

2 is pefect

[ionic gale]

But yeah, to answer your question… go for the 9 mm pistols, 5/7 or the USP

[summer copper]

never played either but i've heard a lot of people say that payday 3 needs to lock in

[summer copper]

that's all of them... but i appreciate it

except the magnum but i'm not an idiot

[fiery flame]

payday 3 needs to get saved by operation medic bag or it might be screwed

[ionic gale]

I mean the 1911’s are also kind of a choice, but I don’t run them usually

Shields?

[summer copper]

i tried the 1911 but the mag capacity is not my favourite

[ionic gale]

No

[summer copper]

i never use shield, i meat ride the mirrorgun too hard

[vestal mauve]

TLE has that aesthetic value tho

[ionic gale]

I would definitely run the M1911 but you can’t really do much with seven rounds

[fiery flame]

the magnum fires like once every light year

[ionic gale]

Me 2 :0

[summer copper]

okay gonna do a port run wish me luck

[drifting fog]

shield feels like cheating lol

i like to use the m320 anyways

[fiery flame]

when the 3rd crack on the shields glass apears then the shield becomes kinda useless besides for back protection

[drifting fog]

i hate that using 9bangs counts as friendly fire most of the time

[ionic gale]

The Beretta is a favorite gun of mine too lol

I just like Italian guns lol

Also, I run the supernova as my main shotgun

I know semi automatic shotgun are in the game but it’s the only gun that can actually accept a damn holographic sight

[fiery flame]

fav pistol prob the FiveSeven, high ammo cap, spam(i enjoy), sees armor as paper

[ionic gale]

I actually don’t rlly use the 5/7

I only really run it when I’m using a shield

which me using a shield is like practically like rare nowadays

[vestal mauve]

I'm a revolver guy

[ionic gale]

Ur a wizard

[vestal mauve]

Do you feel lucky, punk?

[fiery flame]

bro decides to activate dead eye

but first you got to smoke 9 12 packs

[ionic gale]

-Harry ,1971

[vestal mauve]

The Beretta is fun too tho, because I actually owned one at one point

[ionic gale]

When I go to my first firing range I want that to be my first gun to shoot

I hope it ain’t too heavy bc

It’s a chonky metal boy

[vestal mauve]

It's surprisingly heavy

One of the reasons why I sold mine
Your average Glock is much lighter

[ionic gale]

I was given advice I should probably not train with a Glock because I should start out with external safety hammer, fired ones

Of course, Glock don’t have external safeties and it striker fired

Is that viable or no? ;-(

[vestal mauve]

Eh, go to the range and see what you like best
Don't spend your time living someone else's hobby

I've seen Glocks get recommended as first purchases a number of times so I have no idea what the issue could be

[summer copper]

CAN LASERS DIE MID MISSION??

[vestal mauve]

No?

[shy tulip]

Only if you forget to charge it the night before

[ionic gale]

What happened with ur laser? ;-:

[summer copper]

bruh my IR laser is not working

[ionic gale]

Hmm

[vestal mauve]

Skill issue

[ionic gale]

I know this is a really dumb question, but do you have night vision goggles, deployed?

[fiery flame]

stop my like target or something and get some batteries before you go

[summer copper]

yeah thanks i do

my pistol one works just fine but

AR one is just not working

[daring flame]

is it a custom ar?

[summer copper]

wait now my pistol one isnt working

[vestal mauve]

Mods installed?

[summer copper]

i am in full vanilla

[daring flame]

change the batteries

[summer copper]

is it a fucking alt tab bug

[shy tulip]

Are you sure you didn't select the laser that requires you to have nvg on

[vestal mauve]

Can't have shit in Los Suenos

[daring flame]

hold f to change the batteries

[summer copper]

i have the IR laser

[ionic gale]

Do you all like uhm

Do you guys sometimes will play as like a regular patrol officer?

[vestal mauve]

Hmmm
Either a rare bug or they actually modeled damage to attachments

[daring flame]

no i kill

[vestal mauve]

Yeah Patrol Officer mode is a great challenge

[ionic gale]

I mean, like I only really do aesthetically

[daring flame]

i tried to do non-lethal but the pepperball takes too long to incapacitate without me being shot so i just went back to lethal

[ionic gale]

I have a sidearm as my main weapon

And I guess I’ll bring a shotgun or a squad, car style rifle build

[summer copper]

i think its an alt tab bug

i alt tabbed, stopped working on my assault rifle. alt tabbed again to complain, stopped working on my pistol

[ionic gale]

I did the spider non lethal for my first time beating that in the new update

Also, you want to know something funny?

[vestal mauve]

It's
Pistol with 3 mags and flashlight
Shotgun with 2 buckshot
Taser
Pepper spray
No helmet
Kevlar vest

[umbral oar]

what does remove savve data do

[ionic gale]

when I recently did MindJot with my AI teammates

[shy tulip]

Does what the name suggests and deletes your save

[daring flame]

how do i see the rating i got for a mission?

[umbral oar]

so like everything

[ionic gale]

I somehow completed the mission, but

I guess Eli was a damn trooper because he was the only one in my AI squad that didn’t get hit and was healthy the entire run

[shy tulip]

Yes

[ionic gale]

Me and the rest of my bot buddies took a lot of rounds, but Eli just like strolled through the datacenter like it was breakfast or something ;/;

[daring flame]

ive lost count of how many officers ive lost

i think i have a solid team now

[fiery flame]

i team kill

[daring flame]

?

[vestal mauve]

Eli and Prescott in my experience are absolute maniacs

[ionic gale]

Because I love swat 4…

[daring flame]

i have yoon jung gonzalez and williams'

[ionic gale]

I wish I could’ve had Jackson with me 😔

I don’t know why, but like I literally like, never really did the commander mode

I’m sorry just playing through practice unlocking all of those maps and I’ll do the actual commander mode later

[summer copper]

youll never guess...

[ionic gale]

I mean, I unlocked some missions for it but I think it’s only up until 213 Park homes or something

[vestal mauve]

Doing everything S Rank right now
Next up: Greased Palms
😭😭😭

[ionic gale]

When I play this game next time I kind of want to do a little swat 4 challenge or something

Where I have to use weapons from that game and I customize my characters to look like retro swat from the 90s- early 2000’s

[vestal mauve]

Beat all the levels and you unlock retro SWAT gear

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I kind of have customization unlocked ;-;

i’m actually actually a big nut on modding this game

So yeah, I’m just playing this game for like the funsies and I guess the commander mode would be like nice

[daring flame]

why does toc sound disappointed when i tell him theres a fatality

[ionic gale]

Do you guys like?

There was one time I was playing ready or not and I was a suspect, and I don’t know if I genuinely had an itchy trigger finger or my mouse just slipped, but

I shot a civilian in the head with my pistol, and like I think I killed him ;-;

I swear on everything that was an accidental shot I’m not even lying

[ruby blaze]

When I ready up and the cooldown ends, it bring me back to the main menu. Can anyone help?

[ionic gale]

Solo or are you trying to join a multiplayer lobby?

[ruby blaze]

solo

cause when I try to join multiplayer, it says it didnt find a lobby with enough ping

[ionic gale]

Is there like a weird error or something or does it just kick you out any pop-up?

[ruby blaze]

nope

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing you’re not playing modded right?

[ruby blaze]

nope, i dont play modded

[ruby blaze]

I can try modded tough

[ionic gale]

Oh no I thought that was the problem of you getting booted off

Yeah, I don’t know what’s happening and why it’s kicking you off

[summer copper]

yeah lol hes like "...copy entry team, notifying morgue"

im on port, soft finished the mission what soft objectives am i missing? i have weapons box, auction room, drugs box

[ruby blaze]

Do we have to do a trainin before playing a mission?

[shy tulip]

No

[ruby blaze]

then, why cant I play a mission?

[shy tulip]

Make sure therre is no text on the top right that says "Modded", if there is no text, then you are modded.

The game uses P2P, if you are in an inactive region it could be the issue, or if you are using a software to be in a bad region

[summer copper]

please guys my mission time is gonna be crazy if i have to do any more loops of this damn map

[shy tulip]

Might be guns

[summer copper]

i have weapon storage containers

[shy tulip]

As in suspect guns

[ruby blaze]

what is the best region? and I dont understand cause you said if there is no text, you are modded but if you have text, you are modded

[summer copper]

no i did the search and secure

everyone and every gun is accounted for

[shy tulip]

On the top right it should say the build # (day included), if it says modded, you have mods. If there is no text at all (including build #) then you have a mod

[summer copper]

or is it not perfect cuz i walked past everyone with gun highlight on, and nothin

[shy tulip]

I think if you don't see it first they can't collect it, I don't think they're omnipotent

[summer copper]

how would i not have seen the gun if i killed the suspect that had it

[shy tulip]

Idk, maybe the SWAT did

I think you have all the soft objectives so it is probably a gun

[ruby blaze]

it says modded

[shy tulip]

You have mods then and can't join vanilla only lobbies, try removing them and requeue #❓modding-faq-archive

[ruby blaze]

is Safe-Mode good?

[warm orchid]

There's a shipping container you missed that's mission critical. Search near the front of the building on the outside. It's big and yellow with a spider on it. Once you see what's inside you'll see why it's critical

[summer copper]

front of the warehouse?

[warm orchid]

Correct

[shy tulip]

I think it may be fine to enable safemode, not sure since I haven't tested

[ruby blaze]

Doesnt work

[summer copper]

oh i found it

that is...

[ruby blaze]

I dont have any mods

and it still say modded

[summer copper]

yeah mission critical yeah

i wasn't expecting that at all

also did FISA just make a bad call? at the end of the campaign there

what the actual fuck

[weak ice]

watchmen sucks i encountered him at 3 am in a lobby yesterday 😭

[ruby blaze]

What do I have to do before a mission?''

[shy tulip]

The game knows when it detects mods, it's pretty good

Unsubbing in-game does not remove mods automatically from your files

[ruby blaze]

I restarted my pc, it doesn't say Modded anymore but it still crashes when I try to play on a mission. When the cooldown ends, it brings me back to the main menu. Idk why

( Commander Mode)

[limpid pond]

What happened to the rescue shield? Did they remove it with the adam update?

[shy tulip]

Still there

[shy tulip]

Try verifying your game files

[limpid pond]

But it's like before where you need the supporter DLC or what it was?

[shy tulip]

Yep

I don't think it was renamed like other SE stuff

[limpid pond]

Which now is offsale also?

[shy tulip]

Yes

[stone bay]

ron is a hella good game damn

[hasty oak]

but is it better than zero hour

[stone bay]

yes besideds the dogs we needddd dogs in ron

[hasty oak]

if we cant even have snipers i doubt we'll ever see dogs

[stone bay]

true

well it did kinda just relase

still a hell of a game with mods

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I don’t know if Sierra team will return

I mean, it was in SWAT 4 but

Meh I don’t know if having a sniper team, would like

It be kool but idk how they would do w

[stone bay]

yeah

i agree

my ron is at 75

it was downloaded but i had to redownload it bc my reshade wouldnt work

92%!!

[summer copper]

sinuous trail S rank easy af

[ionic gale]

lol when I finally did that level

I said this before but

To this day I’m still unsure how Eli didn’t get shot that entire run

[stone bay]

ron finished verifying

[ionic gale]

Me and my AI buddies where eating lead sandwiches left to right but Eli was walking through it like it was a lil stroll over to the deli down the street

[stone bay]

whats like the best mods

[summer copper]

gunfighter mod, body cam mod are essentials for modders it seems

[ionic gale]

I use cosmetic mods because I like role-playing and stuff :o

[stone bay]

reallyy??

[ionic gale]

Yee

[stone bay]

thats rlly cool

[ionic gale]

I have some police outfits I like to do in game

[stone bay]

oooo

[summer copper]

even the vanilla swat 99 gear is awesome

[stone bay]

really?

[ionic gale]

UK CTSFO… FBI HRT… Regular police

[ionic gale]

I played SWAT 4

[stone bay]

hm ill have to check it out

[ionic gale]

So yeh

[stone bay]

tysm bub

[summer copper]

haven't played swat 4

[ionic gale]

I have customization unlocked mod

It basically unlocks every cosmetic item in the game

I just didn’t want to run the entire game to get the clothing items

[stone bay]

sometimes my game crashes

but ion know

[ionic gale]

Other than that, I kind of have other mods that reskin weapons… I have like one AI mod and other stuff

[ionic gale]

By the way, if you’re going to start modding

I recommend using Nexus Mods

[opaque birch]

do the mods that add guns not work anymore

[ionic gale]

Download the Vortex extension on ur PC to make it easier to deploy and undeploy mods so you don’t always have to download everything manually and you don’t have to dig into the files of the games to remove stuff

But that’s optional

[opaque birch]

or is that just sniper or not

[ionic gale]

I mean like some of them have been 1.0 updated

[opaque birch]

(or just me)

[stone bay]

i am lol

[ionic gale]

Oh, I’m sure sniper or not hasn’t gotten any 1.0+ versions

[opaque birch]

it did i got mine after 1.0

[ionic gale]

Me I haven’t used any of those mods in a while

[summer copper]

bro that was the worst attempt at an S rank i've ever done

[ionic gale]

I only really done reskins of weapons nowadays

I also got a balaclava mod

[summer copper]

entire team and me was injured to the first damn guard and then i died 3 guards later

[opaque birch]

they kinda peak i love using the g3a3 a 7.62 battle rifle in delicate close quarter situations

[summer copper]

after shooting him with the fucking beanbag btw

[ionic gale]

What is ur favorite gun to use in each weapon category?

[summer copper]

SA58 is goated and i will not let anyone talk shit about it

MP7 is also sexy

and i don't use shotguns but the beanbag is goated

[ionic gale]

Mine is:

Rifle: G36C
Shotgun: Supernova
SMG: MP5/10
Pistol: M11 Compact
Less Lethal: R7 launcher
Long Tactical: Mirrorgun

[ionic gale]

I’m like a frequent user of shotguns

I’m still pissy about how the G36C no have holographic sight

I use the supernova bc

For some reason it’s the only shotgun that can mount one

[astral warren]

supernova shoots too slow

b1301/m1014 bae

beanbag shotgun is acceptable despite being pump action, just because ideally you're covered by someone with lethal when you're using it.

At least the m870 has the aesthetic integrated flashlight attachment

[summer copper]

fuck valley of the dolls

there's one specific fucking room that is just completely impossible to clear damageless

i had 2 officers miss every pepper ball on two suspects, and then pull out their empty pistols and die instantly

[shy tulip]

Nova is bae

[fresh oxide]

^

it feels like it has heat seeking pellets whenever I use it

[stone bay]

can someone help me

[shy tulip]

It depends

[twilit robin]

replaying mindjolt for the first time in a long time

forgot how hyper gunned up the guards are

[stone bay]

hey everytime i try to go to the map "Not So Convenient Night" it just crashes my game

[summer copper]

I HATE THIS DAMN MAP

[stone bay]

?

[summer copper]

I HATE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS

[stone bay]

WHY

[shy tulip]

Which one is Not So again

[summer copper]

I CANT FIGURE OUT THESE FUCKING GUARDS

[stone bay]

casual can u help me

[hardy plinth]

Does the VKS have infinite ammo???

When I perform a tactical reload all my mags are full again

[twilit robin]

whats the issue your facing, I have both S and A+ on the map. its really fun but also a pest of a level

[topaz raptor]

no, VKS works fine for me

[fresh oxide]

bro is not ready

[summer copper]

just awful rng with the damn guards

and AI pulling empty pistols on them

[twilit robin]

yeah if your just trying to get by, clear the top level, go down the stairs then wedge the door to the catwalk into the livingroom area. shoot the guards chilling the back yard to make your life easier

LVAR, F90 or even OSW are ideal guns for that level

[stone bay]

guys look what i posted on #🎬ron-clips-and-media :3

[hardy plinth]

Can enemies shoot themselves????

[summer copper]

S rank

[fleet talon]

Really? 💀

[summer copper]

but i did it

[fleet talon]

Oh nvm

[summer copper]

hate that map so much

[fleet talon]

I was gonna day A+ is ez but yeah S not so EZ

[shy tulip]

Yes

[hardy plinth]

wtf why

ruined my s-run

[summer copper]

becasue theyre gonna get done for illegal shit

[shy tulip]

Because stress

actually morale

[summer copper]

if you were a criminal and you know that what you were doing would put you away for a long time, and SWAT is currently raiding your building and killing all of the guards, would you not take the easy way out?

speaking of which ive literally never seen brixley shoot himself

[earnest phoenix]

in my 200 hours of playing ron i maybe saw a guy shoot himself once

[twilit robin]

oh yeah if your trying to S rank its gonna just take a few tries. bean bag shotgun is the way to go. the AI are giga useless

[hardy plinth]

I think it's just a bug

he was blasting full auto until he incapacitated himself

[topaz haven]

dude im on sinuous trail and i cannot find the last civilian for the life of me

[twilit robin]

"search room command"

[topaz haven]

I did

[summer copper]

what is?

[twilit robin]

after every suspect has been mag dumped I just walk about and tap that

[topaz haven]

then my guys dont even move

[summer copper]

did you check the roof

[topaz haven]

yes

[summer copper]

both of them

[topaz haven]

yes mid and top

[twilit robin]

tbh I with that was way more common, maybe thats why all the AI are so desprate for death by cop

[topaz haven]

and usually i hear them talking but its silence

[summer copper]

do you have search and secure show up when you click middle mouse button

[topaz haven]

yes

[summer copper]

and your "rescue all civilians" is not highlighted

[topaz haven]

nope

[summer copper]

might just have to keep looking tbh, theres a couple rooms which are really out of the way

[topaz haven]

alright

[summer copper]

they are probably standing around instead of having their hands up if your teammates dont go to restrain them

[manic linden]

is the training broken for anyone else? im at the partt where youre splitting teams and the commands are greyed out for me

[hardy plinth]

enemies shooting themselves because of the stress system

[summer copper]

no that's a feature

very intentional

[hardy plinth]

Oh yeah you're right

They have an animation for it apparently

[summer copper]

yes

[hardy plinth]

Just weird how he incapacitated himself after a long full auto burst

[charred osprey]

where is the jpc or is it just in older versions

[summer copper]

well, you spend your AR ammo, you only have your pistol, you realise you're going to be arrested if not killed, you don't wanna take the chance, you shoot yaself

[manic linden]

how to get s in single player? needs 1 or 2 arrested suspects in all missions right?

[topaz raptor]

no you arrest all of them

[summer copper]

do not incapacitate or kill any suspects, make them surrender and arrest them all

also get all the soft objectives

don't lose any officers, don't get any penalties

[topaz raptor]

you can lose everyone and do it solo, you get penalties for not reporting dead bodies.

[summer copper]

what?

i could've sworn they just straight up can't die

[topaz raptor]

now you know

[summer copper]

man, usually when my officers died i would just go full rambo not expecting to live

[manic linden]

all of them? no way

[summer copper]

yep all of them

[manic linden]

that is so bad lol...

[summer copper]

great tip is just spam CS gas, make sure you give everyone gas masks

[manic linden]

if you shoot a suspect 6 times in the leg it should auto surrender them, or at least stum them for a long time so that you can actually switch to gas or something

[summer copper]

you can sometimes shoot them once and they might surrender but typically they won't

just give your teammates the VKS each

[manic linden]

yeah.. they never changed that in the ai. anyways, if mission says soft complete am i meant to be out there looking for more ?

[summer copper]

yes

[manic linden]

fuck knows what it is coz the game isnt even telling u lol

[summer copper]

typically you can do the "search and secure" but if they come back then you're missing soft objectives

[manic linden]

yeah they just stand there when i do that

[ionic gale]

Helo

[summer copper]

then yeah you're missing soft objective, what mission?

hey

[manic linden]

i just googled it, thanks mate. 2nd mission

[ionic gale]

It’s usually like loose weapons or something like that

[manic linden]

missing pics from the drawer. its so stupid they dont even hint what to look for

[ionic gale]

Like somehow, let’s say you missed a weapon that was lying around somewhere that would be considered a soft adjective I think

[summer copper]

i struggled with the soft objectives on 23MB/s too

[summer copper]

he did search and secure

[manic linden]

where in the HQ/lobby can i view my ratings

for each mission :)

[terse merlin]

Search and Secure only works if your teammates have noticed unsecured stuff beforehand

They don't actually do the search part at all

[manic linden]

lol really??

kinda ridiculous. thank you mate

[summer copper]

well yeah but usually when a suspect drops their gun then somebody will notice

[manic linden]

im positively surprised how playable the swat AI is

judging by MP pre 1.0, i thought theyd be dropping like flies coz every ai was a terminator. but its actually manageable and fair so far

kinda hilarious that when AI breachers, the sus AI doesnt do anything for first few seconds despite the looooong wait between breach and flash grenadfe for example haha

[summer copper]

yeah it seems like they've toned it down since i've only had one or two incidents of terminator enemies in 45 hours of gameplay

[manic linden]

it is a lot of clicking for every fucking thing tho. i think itll annoy me in few hours

any unlockables for iron man mode, aside from achievements

[topaz raptor]

a diamond watch

[manic linden]

ah i see, dev's watch

shouldve done like a clown outfit hahaha

"you guys are stupid. they'll be looking for swat guys!"

https://tenor.com/view/owen-draft-owen-draft-war-gif-24972708

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[summer copper]

100% worth the agony

[manic linden]

imo its an agony because its so hard to get them to surrender

like one would think that if a suspect gets shot 6 times in the leg then they would at least get stunned for a second

[feral pebble]

S'd Elephant today with a buddy. Easy mission overall but the RNG of whether or not the suspects shoot a civ is brutal.

There were some tries where we could hear a civ die before we could even enter the building 😄

Love the challenge 🙂

[summer copper]

one beanbag to the chest is pretty convincing most of the time

[summer copper]

oh i can't wait whatsoever to try for that S rank tomorrow it will be so awesome and fun

[feral pebble]

Def a lot of fun. Only having 4 suspects allows for some serious rushing

For us at least just came down to the RNG aspect of a civ getting murdered

[summer copper]

surely you can pop a few shots at the start and they'll run towards you?

[shy tulip]

I don't think so, they wander a little bit, but they generally stay near their spawns in my experience

If they'rer close to you probably yeah but it's a big map

[summer copper]

i love RNG

[stone bay]

Does anyone feel like ROn has lost the dark neo-noir vibe from the original trailer? There was just something strangely nostalgic about it. I think maybe once they updated the gear and equipment from the late 90s vibe to more modern tactical equipment the tone of the game shifted somewhat. Also I might be misattributing this effect to the general aura of mystery that surrounded the game when it wasn't available to play and only existed as a pre alpha.

[vestal mauve]

Ive seen this before and have no idea where it comes from
The trailers have officers wearing modern FAST helmets and using current gen tasers

And the noir vibe is plenty in levels like Port Hokan.

[copper cypress]

Grenade launchers are mainly used to deal with suspects far away from behind doors, right?

[hardy plinth]

They're also reliable in the sense that they explode where you expect them to and they don't roll off somewhere

So sometimes depending on what my loadout is I just run around with it and stun the first person I see

[bitter mason]

They dont even effect you do they? So you can shoot a flash at your feet and stun everyone around you

I remember that was a thing they did in early access, idk if they changed it for release

[hardy plinth]

Pretty sure they affect you the same way any normal grenade does

[vestal mauve]

Only if your wearing the goggles

[deep rain]

I just s ranked all maps

0.2% of players have this achievement.

[shy tulip]

Keep in mind that multiplayer apparently doesn't get achievements

No idea if its intentional or not

[deep rain]

I see

[bitter mason]

Just testing in the station, flashes and stingers from a GL dont affect you at all. I dont even have goggles on or anything

yep works in levels too

[deep rain]

Well, anyway, I see why not many ppl have it. S ranking felt weird. Like not playing RON, but like playing something else

More of a puzzle game

[bitter mason]

what do you mean

[inland wolf]

how do you use mission planner thing

[stone bay]

Yeah its hard to put a finger on it. But there is something different in the vibe

[shy tulip]

OG RoN looked a lot darker but also on a lot smaller scale. Probably wouldn't have been half as well, action packed, as it currently is

[summer copper]

0.2 never did seem like a legit number

[shy tulip]

Also gotta keep in mind most players don't play for S-rank

It's getting perfect score every map, most players don't do that on other games

[summer copper]

yeah i guess, did they add achievements with 1.0?

[frail quartz]

Indeed

[summer copper]

i'm fairly sure you have to redo achievements if they're added after you "do" them

[shy tulip]

Idk how that works

But yes there was only a test achievement prior to 1.0

[copper cypress]

In the current version, will the suspect use the hostage as a shield?

[shy tulip]

Yes

[copper cypress]

!!!

I thought it was gone when the mission mode selection mechanic was taken away.

[shy tulip]

It hasn't ever been related to the type of mode

[bitter mason]

All hostage mode in early access did was made suspects shoot hostages after catching wind of you
Honestly dont miss it cause it kinda stank

[crude prism]

real

[bitter mason]

Bit hostage taking does happen, not suuuper common but it happens

[tribal acorn]

I joined a modded server where the host gave all enemies a shitton of heavy armor. Since we were doing Sinuous Trail and fighting a ton of heavily armored security guards, I quipped
"I didn't know we were playing Payday."
Everyone including host laughs

[bitter mason]

Unlike hiding in closets and under stuff which just straight up nearly never happens

[crude prism]

that's how they get you now

by it never happening, and you still not falling for it

[bitter mason]

Real
I did get an ai mod that actually makes suspects hide and its night and day

A cool mechanic that you never see lol

[tribal acorn]

It's rather rare because usually the civvies won't stay close enough to the suspects for them to do it, but it does happen

[bitter mason]

Though its a little buggy as suspects can just refuse to leave a closet after you open it. I imagine the devs have never seen that bug since suspects dont hide lol

I dont think theres a restriction on who can take hostages. Other than maybe on ends of the earth but it would be quite funny to see one of the sons using their mother as a human shield

[sharp fox]

do you guys have any advice on how i stop killing civilians

[bitter mason]

Dont shoot them

[sharp fox]

oh ok
thanks

[bitter mason]

Also dont blow them up

[frail quartz]

Every civilian you kill is one less puppy who had a potential owner

[sharp fox]

fuck those puppies

[shy tulip]

Replace your live rounds with confetti