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guaranteed to not be able to clear the mission
I hear some "Shoot him" Verrrry quiet callouts when I go to the pool
This command stopped working for me on elephant lol, when I tell them to run to the exit they just stand there until I bash them in the head
u wanna be a monster
use that command on the hospital map
watch as the entire squad search two hospital buildigs not able to find the last civ
Is a constant banging in the abandoned building part of the ambience or what
RoN is the master of intrusive ambiance
some freaky shit going on in ther
They donāt leave they just go to your starting point and stand there as if theyāre still being held hostage. Was disappointing when i found out i spent half an hour clearing EVERY single room and dropping chemlights EVERYWHERE just to find out that there were 6 civilians at the start.. the same 6 people i told to move to the exit
And they were the LAST ONES
like in spider where there are muffled gunshots as part of the ambience
There's something making noise in the white van up next to the abandoned building
Background gunshots on brixley, ghostly music in hotel, gunshots in carries of the vine
Free se- I mean uhh FREE CANDY
Giving Minecraft cave sounds a run for their money
Poor child
raised eyebrow
I fucking hate those random gunshots, has me clearing out half the map all over again because i keep thinking itās an AI
||Then i remember i brought order to chaos||
My teammate just said "looking under the bed" when I was OUTSIDE
THE MISSION ENDED CUZ HE CHECKED THE BED WHEN I WAS OUTSIDE I WANT TO DIE SO BAD
The looking under the bed line is also used for things that arenāt beds like the pool table on Volls house
hey you know what's fun? lighting up all the cars on the dealership map and making all the alarms go off at once
Love how they call the benches in Carriers of The Vine, beds.
itās loud though
there's nothing illegal lol, just gross shit
Gotta respect the homeless
@summer copper ykwās ironic?
But they arenāt homeless..
They will be
Not in hell they wonāt
dunno
you have 6 intentional S ranks and my only 2 S ranks
i got on accidentā¦
for both of them it was my first time playing and i had lethal, so did my AI
i have it on relapse and the bitcoin
RELAPSE
twitch streamer guy and the hospital
i got them both on accident and i had lethals
FIRST TRY btw and i wasnāt going for an S
on god
did you just not incap anyone
idk
i didnāt shoot anyone on streamer map and for hospital i just shot everyone in the leg or made a knuckle sandwich and served it to them
i beat relapse first try but slaughtered every single suspect
lol
one time i was in the glass pathway between the two buildings
and got shot by a suspect out of a window from the building i was entering
i played really slow while playing relapse
and then with like 10 minutes remaining with me still on the second floor
i remembered something
OH FUCK THERES BOMBS
I panicked and then fucking sanicād over to both of them
Probably the highlight of that S rank
lol
i didn't know there were bombs until i found the first one
i never got the timer warning even tho i took forever getting to both the first and second one
or if i did then i was mid gunfight and not paying attention to TOC
Love how relapse gives you 30 minutes to defuse 2 bombs that are guaranteed to spawn in the same spots
Elephant: 10 minutes to find 2 bombs with up to 9 locationsā¦
i was stressed on elephant ngl
Elephant fucking stressed me out because those bombs were god knows where
I tried reading a guide on bomb locations and gave up because it didnāt help me with shit
i don't remember where the second one was for me but the first was in the lecture hall
I just decided to run & gun honestly
Shoot first restrain later, or Iād have a teammate do it
Mine were uh
That table on the second floor like
Right above the cafeteria i think
i had a hell of a time finding everyone after the threats were neutralised
And then the other bomb was in a science class on second floor in the green area (Not the chemistry room table)
but i also didn't know about the search and secure command so
Thereās 17 civil AI on average
- 1 since thereās the neutral security guard that spawns in random rooms
- another 1 because that guy who gets shot in the leg at the start
that blonde cop i think
One time, like 2 minutes into my first mission
Shooter starts blasting
Like 6 people fucking bash the library door open and charge out in my direction
My team executed me and youād never guess why
||i started blasting||
i know abt the command since the very start but Idk how to use it
Since i can only do Search Command which is basically single file fall in
how do you get S rank
you have to, i think, bring order to chaos, and complete all the other main objectives except securing the civilians
do you have to go fast?
do not incapacitate or kill any suspects, complete all soft objectives
time doesn't matter
Complete every objective, everyone cuffed, all evidence secured, everyone alive, under any circumstances NO PENALTIES.
im guessing youre not supposed to use a gun then?
no
Technically itās possible but itās gonna be way easier with less lethal tools
i see
you're going to want to use the beanbag shotgun or the VKS
hey how do you know you're doing greased palms? the head on your character silhouette is completely red
do not headshot a suspect with the beanbag shotgun because they will still die
sweaty palms
id recommend the beanbag shotgun because it is an instant surrender when you shoot a suspect with it
Itās possible to get S ranks with lethals but you canāt shoot AT ALL unless youāre bashing someone or dealing damage to affect their morale.
Recommended gear:
- Beanbag Shotgun/PepperBall Gun
- Taser
- Stinger(s)
- Flash Bang(s)
- CS Gas
- M320 (Any) Launcher
but make sure you aim for centre mass
Launchers are a last resort in my opinion for AI
because the beanbag shot would still crack their skulls
They still work pretty well. Stingers as a launcher is basically just a pepperball shotgun. Basically BBs that really fucking hurt but they donāt kill
thanks guys
Honestly in my opinion just take ALL ammo off of AI when doing an S rank. When equipped with BB shotguns, they will aim for the head. The AI is shoot to kill, not cease and desist.
When equipped with a pepperball, they will just mag dump the suspect
make sure that you give your teammates ZERO pistol ammunition
Any gun for AI is itself a last resort when doing S rank.. they all will kill on sight
is letting the civilians run away a bad idea
Minimal BB rounds too, they aim for the head and this was annoying
typically yes because they could run into a suspect and be shot on some maps, you don't really want them to run away
Is arming ai with beanbags smart now cause they canāt kill with them now
all my AI use the VKS and everyone has a gas mask
Oh yeah i forgot about that hotfix
Or should I only have it
The VKS pepperball gun?
yeah
If they donāt kill anybody then itās fine. Just make sure they yell at the suspect before they get their head blown off
Vks is kinda shit compared to the bean bags
I ran vks all the time tried bean bag once and im sold
Instant stun instead of wasting a full mag for the guy to just run away
Pepperball only has an advantage in range, and even then the stunning effect is horrible
pepperball sucks cuz the victims of it run away when you shoot them with it meaning you gotta expose yourself and chase them to make sure they surrender
It depends how you use those VKS pepperball guns honestly but Iād still say BB is stronger
Me with a mod that lets players sprint
I saw in gameplay with the old vks model kinda paintbal gun that the gas emidiatly comes out when hit on target
okay thanks
I also find it funny how you can just get into a foot pursuit with a unarmed suspect running away using that mod
Fucking 5 US Marshals SOG operatives just fucking booking it while tryna get to that suspect
i give the AI the VKS because i don't want to risk losing an attempt to them killing a suspect with the beanbag shottie and it works fine
POV: average hot pursuit in Los SueƱos
They donāt kill anymore with the BB shotty
But one positive thing about the pepperball is it has a small aoe whereas the beanbag needs direct hits
Latest hotfix or the one before it fixed that
i watched it happen bro i don't take the risk
Pepperball takes time to take effect
the VKS is more than effective enough and most of the time i gas every room out anyway
Itās an instant pain. Depends how much you shoot them
Headshots do incapicitate with beanbags
A beanbag can stun someone or accidentally kill someone, it's a literal bag flying at mach jesus
Like the death state without the dead will ruin s runs tho
not if you aim for centre mass
Incapacitation
Yes that
if you headshot someone with the beanbag it's fast and heavy enough to crack their skulls, but if you hit them in the chest it just stuns them and makes them instantly surrender
the beanbag is also a lot worse on the hardest map in the game to s rank
Learnt that the hard way
i always use the weapon cant and the laser with the shotgun so that i get more visibility to aim for centre mass
Funny thing is BB shotguns are legally modified by irl police departments so that the charge in the shotgun launches it with less force when the trigger is pulled, making its velocity slower. This was done because either the beanbag would punch a hole in suspects or cause SEVERE internal bleeding
beanbag rounds have 10% of the gunpowder of a normal buckshot
Fuck non lethals, just get a 7.62 
And yes that too
If i download mods for example gun fighter and the mod called gun smoke or something the mods are incompatible can i switch between mods or do i have to download and remove?
me tearing suspects brains out with the SA-58
Switch between or remove one
So both mods are visible in the mods screen on the game
Or do i have to take one out the mod foldere
man i remember when i decided to replay the first mission after unlocking 23 mbp/s. i found out about the armory so i used a shotgun. im sure you know what happened next
||i was SOOO fucking excited after realizing i can send their limbs to jesus with ONE pump||
I really wish they added nine bangs as an actual nade in the game though, wasn't there LEOs who use them?
Yes real life SWAT units use them. They are utilized by LSPD in the Gunfighter mod though
Yeah I think VOID should add them
No embed perms 
It's like a good option from single bangs to nine bangs since they're aiming for realism

Stingers can be entirely useless tbh
The gunfighter mod adds nine bangs but youll have to download all mod stuff
a nine bang and a CS however
Basically just pepperball grenades honestly
You donāt have to download all of it
I just wish the gas filled the room more instead of one big cloud
Just get the AIO pack, the AIO stands for All In One. It includes every single GF mod except for TheDoors and Flashlights 1.0
Yeah no the gas cloud is actually way bigger than it looks
Affects people outside of the cloud often times
inb4 VOID implements ray marching for cs nades
Smoke nades would be useless until we got thermal NVGs
Not like neither I and my teammates nor the enemies can see each other
Thermals seems useful than NVGs imo
it helps with threat ident easier in areas like Twisted Nerve
Plus theyād probably just start blasting the smoke, not sure who wouldnāt since pretty much every NPC ingame is aware of the SWAT raid going on then and there
come on VOID give me my FLIR
pretty much yeah, they have superhuman game sense as well
why does steam discussion say dev removed maps? what maps did they take out? I havent played in a few months
Fucking hated that map dude. So dark, even with NVG
In terms of the brightness they need a slider
Fast food map and washe hotel
Washe replaced with Clemente and fast food was just replaced by gas station
oh, fast food was trash. dont remember washe hotel
I donāt think it was named Washe but it was a hotel map
I just said that since I think it started with a W
Ides of march is the hotel map i thought, with the renegades
Wenderly Hills was its name
Ides of March is an apartment and yeah Brisa cove is still here
Brisa Cove is just your average Siege gameplay
Fr
imagine getting wiped in spawn
oh i remember it now, yeah that map was kinda cool but really annoying to find the last enemies especially in the parking garage
I hate this one part about Brisa cove
This one TINY BIT about it
Every time i played it and didnāt peek it, THERE WAS A DOOR TRAP ON THE VERY FIRST DOOR IN THE MAP
But every time i peeked it THERE WAS NOT A BOMBBBB
Me when I open a door:
click, ting, BOOM, AUGHHUUEHGHUUGH ragdolls
I get horrified when opening a door because i always hear a tick but i never hear a boom
Yeah and last time i did that my whole team was KILLED. Not incapacitated, KILLED.
Way more than youād actually think
hahahha
Lethal Obsession, Clemente, Brisa, I forgot the other one
The mexican tunnels and the conspiricy theoriest
Hospital and the border map
and penthouse
yeah that too
I think SWAT AI should be improved based on player behavior as well, they lack any self preservation with doors ngl xd
if you say open they should peek at least xd
Borderline
Hospital
Brisa Cove
Cabin
Clemente Hotel
Neon Tomb
Port Hokan
All maps with door traps in them, might be one that i missed
I never had so many bombs i only encountered on penthouse cabin and the border
But i use an ai mod that might be it
Itās not really a penthouse itās more like an abandoned cabin
I have AI mods yet I encountered a grenade on almost every map after lethal obsession
I mean the map where they shot some minister with the veteran guys
It always has a guranteed trap there yeah
I hate how in Port Hokan and Lethal Obsession thereās some elevated door traps. We usually look down when peeking for door traps but I blew up like once or twice on both of those maps because there was one on like the top side of the door I didnāt see
Yes both maps are dark I mightāve not seen it but i checked the bottom and had a flash
Yeah thatās annoying. Got unlucky and had a grenade or flashbang on every door. That was the run that made me peek EVERY SINGLE DOOR that came in my way
Brisa Cove isnāt really a penthouse, itās like a hotel/apartment
Mostly an apartment. We have the Clemente Hotel
You wouldnāt understand how useful those could be sometimes
Yea it's a very expensive apartment, it's called a penthouse for a reason xd
I saved a lot of people in Greased Palms when entering the entryway going to the back
Well they didnāt rent out the whole thing and itās not like itās overlooking anything
A penthouse would more than likely be the Voll Health House
Itās just 2 apartments containing snipers and then 3 others containing civilians
If itās a penthouse why would bystanders and civilians be there
Itād also make more sense for it to be remote if it was one
Itās just a rich hotel/apartment building
A penthouse is the top floor of an apartment building/hotel
Based on the civs on the map def a penthouse
Music producer and navy admiral those are big bucks jobs
after playing tarkov it kinda feels bad not being able to shoulder on the left
had the creamiest sync breach i've ever seen. if only the replay system worked so i could see it better, that would be great
How come there arent any addon weapons and mods replace existing ones, i see the more attachements mods add more extras and doesnt replace any of the existing
Needs SDK to be released to do that
From my understanding it is possible but takes a lot of work
I played the new Ides of March for the first time and it's just as bad as I remember
never seen an IED on neon tomb
It also reminded me once again of how much I wish they hadn't missed their shot on that senator
Technically didn't miss
you can
but the problem is
updating those everytime the game breaks it is not worth it
unless someone is dedicated but, overall it is likely to break overtime
is there a reason why i cant exit to desktop without my officers becoming stressed?
am i supposed to never leave a mission
jesus the search and secure bug is still here? i love how they shoot you for killing a detained civilian, but they also dont look for the other civilians, and then when i alt tab as they clear the mission after killing me they get bugged on top of each other. what a shoddy game
I guess i need to shoot the first civilian i see every mission so i can move on with my life without searching ever corner
Iāve seen several. Most of them concussion grenades though
Leaving the mission early counts as retreating pretty much
yo have they gotten suspect ai any better since 1.0 launch? it was probably the only thing making this game feel super jank imo
they seem easier to kill if that's what you mean, but there were mods before for that
as for flanking? Idk they dont seem to do that except for brisa cove/ ides of march
suspect ai is defenietyl wayyyyy better now. they die a lot more dramatically and have more variation in what they do
iāve had one say āiām sorryā after shooting him and he was bleeding out from his femoral artery. shortly before he died
They like flanking in sins of the father and neon tomb
When will VOID release a Thug Shaker mode?
is stinger more consistent than flashbang? I having a theory on why the enemy don't get flashed when there flashbang explode right beneath them
I say Gerard Scott is big and muscular and I want him to hold me in his arms society goes wild someone posts this nobody bats an eye
someone please make this happen
Did latest hotfix break beanbags?
what year is ron set in?
2025 and 2026
ok that adds up thanks
RoN is clearly set in the Doom universe, Judge on his way to non lethally deal with the criminal demons in Ides March 
Is any one using the unity fast micro mount and if so does it work for you?
The one replacing the srs
Trying to go for the Medal of Valor (all S-ranks) achievement, and finally FINALLY got every single mission S-Ranked in a singleplayer game. Have all the tattoos, all cosmetics, only mod installed is to highlight the suspect weapons so they're easier to see when its like a pitch black room/rainy night/etc.
However, steam is tracking me at 17/18 missions completed with an S-Rank, and I can't tell which one it is. Is there an easier way to try and figure it out than just going back and redoing every single mission? I'm 99% sure that every single mission I've done in this singleplayer save is S-Ranked, especially cuz of all the tattoos.
You could start a mission and then immediately fail and see what your personal best is
Does that show only your singleplayer best or multiplayer too?
Oh I think it's the same
Wherever you got the highest score
That will be your personal best I think
Ah okay
Time to just roll through and eventually get it to clear somehow
been searching through this server to see any other answers, gonna try some other things too
Thanks Arxi!
The highest mod in folder has prioritiy right? for example gunfighter base is above gunfighter flashlight fix so it uses the flashlight from gunfighter base
No problem, I hope you can get that S-rank
I was thinking about the problem you had two days ago
How the game doesn't tell you in the mission select the rank you have gotten
is there a message covering the games story?
cuz i dont want to read allat ingame
fuck reading in a game
im here to shoot
ppl
idk ask someone else š¤·āāļø
gen z be like
how does this even connect to gen z
yes
I've seen them flank on the car dealership, but not very well. One of the main issues there I've seen is that suspects will crawl under the garage door while your team is out looking at it and your friendlies will treat them as armed and gun them down while they're crawling
How many maps are there right now?
currently no
some state that they increase it actually but its still the same for now
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Bullet travel time really doesn't matter
Even on the more open maps
Do you arrest suspects usually?
Tend to gas em,their masks does not often help
I once saw a guy with 2 holes mask coughing badly,but instead of kneel down he just retreated to nowhere
I learned here the only map where it works is A Lethal Obsession
Otherwise it's purely aesthetic
Agreed
I'll always try to get an arrest
I just tried to complete all missions and do all mission objectives properly and then I went back to get S-rank
I've managed to gas one of the mask guys on lethal obsession
Sometimes I would go all-lethal but it's still fun to use non-lethals like the taser from time to time
Must literally just be one of them
10/10 1.0 quality
The definitive experience
I only arrest them if they put their hands up the moment my team enters
Wish someday we can get sniper support
It's not fair to let 5 of us to do so many labours š¦
I've gotten more used to going in with taser in hand
Id do that in swat 4 most of the time but for whatever reason I never did it much in Ron until now
The average multiplayer experience is pretty bad. People just running around solo. What a shame
But when you do find that group that plays somewhat together it is nice.
oh right, and raging at each other when 1 gets aventually friendly fired which is bound to happen in those scenarios, that's a fun part thoš
Like if I were to spare your life as a suspect, I expect full cooperation and dropping your weapons the first second the team enters the room.
Days before some random shitty players walks behind and shot everyone in the head
Formed a habit get the shield at the start then go MJ dacing steps since then
Or just simply play with my already known friends
multiplayer is fun but the netcode feels ass at times
Me and my friend both have good internet and when we video call the image is always crisp
but when we play RoN ping is always 150-200ms and once even went up to 500ms
nah
the goal is to not kill anyone and not let anyone die, snipers don't really accomplish that
that may be more on steams end idk for certain though I'm unfamiliar with allat
Idk we play games together often and it never felt this noticeable
Even when you try to turn on your laser pointer, there's always that 200ms delay between pressing your button and your pointer turning on
Hit detection is also all over the place
Or enemies respond later to you hitting them, giving them even more time to shoot back
making the game at times very frustrating to play
Unless if you wanna suffer and try and get S tier all the time, you are killing people, and a sniper team would help alot with hostage rescues and covering windows.
you severely overestimate what a sniper can do
No I donāt
police departments don't just have 17 snipers on standby to cover the entire map
I just said exactly what they can do
the most you get is a few cover cones on the exterior and outermost rooms of a building
most of the hostage rescues you encounter wouldn't be helped by snipers
and your actual job as a swat team isn't to kill people, which is the point of this game
it's a realsim
So then why do we fight active terrorists, thatās not even swats job, thatās something the fucking feds deal with
because you're first responders???
when a hospital gets raided the police department isn't going to wait for the feds to mobilize, especially when it's considered an active shooting
just like how in actual active shootings the protocol isn't to wait for a swat team to arrive outside of situations involving IEDs and high ezplosives
Think of it like a glass of water
That cup could be worth 70 dollars, but when you drink from it its in motion so maybe only 17
You need to slow down and pace with the snipers for an authentic cqb experience
Even without poping suspects' heads off i still hope someone can sit high and alert me if anyone is trying to kick my ass
Or just some other guy instead TOC all time saying good work keep it up.someone can provide more intel or cover
Quite nervous and reluctant to enter an unknown compact with low throwables left and the whole team is well fed with bullets
Without the snipers we are realising that it will wont be perfect, therefore, have to
So just live a little bro š When the snipers help its OK
thank you for that explination, i needed that
so informal
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how do i equip the godamn battering ram
i finished all the missions without it but it seems quite cool, but i cant find/equip it
From 1-4 in the upper num button,keep tapping till you pull the hammer out
Or just give it to your AI bud let him ram it for u
but how to see the equiped long tacticals ?
and unequip some
Long tactical cannot be discarded i think
in the loadout editor
U will bring one with u all the time
it defaults to the mirrorgun but it's at the bottom
found it im fucking stupid
Time to knock knock
ill use the breaching shotgun for combat next run
i feel ya, got through a good few missions until realising i could hire and change squad mates
or the ram itself
for combat? lol
can yall ban this watchman guy
good luck killing someone with the breaching shotgun
One trait is called experienced cop or what
Your teammates warn you about traps without mirrorgun
Just can't grind that trait out
never tried it tbh cuz i always bring mirrorgun
It is possible to ram someone with dat big hammer
In multiplayers it should be an instant kill to your teammates (If my memory does not go wrong)
While breaching shotgun don't seem to be a lethal weapon
Guess it's firing slug rounds which turns into dust after first impact on surface
you know you can also highlight weapons in the vanilla game right
Yeah thatās what it was not the mod, I remember trying to find a mod and then one of my friends told me to just go into the accessibility settings
oh k
Been running on like 4 hours of sleep lol couldnāt remember whether it was accessibility or a mod
what's the better nonlethal primary for valley of the dolls?
beanbag
can't risk killing them if i get good rng..
is it better than the TPL?
way better
when i use the helmet cam it kills my fps ; is it capped or shitty pc?
for me it's pretty laggy
i guess it has to rended other parts of the map at the same time so it causes lag
Is the stinger better than the flashbang
dependes if you have anti flash or face shield
what ever its called
If you haven't figured it out in game, you can try https://www.saveeditonline.com/. Get your Achievments.sav file from C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\ReadyOrNot\Saved\SaveGames and put it into the website. If I had to guess, FloatValue 0-17 are the base game levels. Based on opening the file manually, I would guess the order is:
Gas, coyote, twisted nerve, elephant, relapse, neon, farm, sins, brisa, obsession, dealership, port, kawayu, post office, brixley, valley, datacenter, 23mb
do multiplayer games also count towards achievements and unlocking cosmetics?
hey, i use the 40 slots mod but everytime i put it in the mod folder, it unequip my light vest and i cant equip it back, any solution ?
bro swan just said "Im coming in to handcuff you" to a dead suspect
possibly outdated
if its the one that was last updated in 2022
u know a replacement ?
the other one i used to use it i think its the same name or smth
not any for just slots.
Only one I can think of that increases slots is gunfighter overhaul but that also changes other things like the gunplay
but it added guns as well
gunfighter overhaul dont change anything on my game
there is no error message.. just nothing
Why do most replays not appear
im on ver 399 idk what that mean but its prob not the 1.0
Unlocking cosmetics based on score: yes. The only achievments that will progress are the complete levels for the first time set
And the arrest your first suspect
Odd, you installing it all properly?
i think my version is not good
Make sure replays are enabled in the setting. The list is a little funky and not always the bottom is most recent. Just keep an eye on the date of them and check the replay name for the actual map
Alr ty
for what the mod or the game?
the game
I assume 1.4 for the game version
if hotfixes count towards that
since last hotfix was the 4th
it says version 39903 dec 13 2023
Opt out of supporter alpha on steam beta options for the game
gunfighter is compatable with the latest game version
just make sure you're not in any betas for the game and have it up to date
aight thanks
works well, i just dont have my helmet anymore
anyone know how to fix that
bcause im getting one tapped and its quite annoying
you mean you can't select helmets? or they don't show up on the paperdoll?
I believe that's just a visual bug with gunfighter (?)
nope i dont just see it on the armor/health indicative in the botton left corner
aight thx
Difference between wm light & m600 v?
I believe it's just where the light gets mounted. Usually the wm will go opposite where the m600 would
Ok thanks
When will RoN be coming to xbox
when hell freezes over
anyway to know what ur back looks like when equipping vests?
when is home invasion dlc
Freecam mod is best, but if you don't want that you can select your long tactical slot to see part of your backside
freecam mod? neve rhear do fit
where can i et it
Q2
from what I remember the devs saying they'd eventually want to port it to consoles
not guaranteed but, probably a reason why they went with Modio as it is console friendly. It fucking sucks
yeah, not a fan of it either
i swear the glock 19 has two modes
You either put 7 rounds into a mf and they still standing, or you put 3 in them and they drop
On normal vests how is ur back decided eg if u got a bag etc
Your variant choice is what determines if you have a backpack. Some do, some do not
More like whole mag or just 2 shots but yeah so true š¤£š¤£
what year is the ron supporter ed alpha build? 2019?
the fucking backpacks on the swat models are driving me insane, its annoying working on some cool ass ST6-esque outfit only for a huge "FBI" symbol to not only be on one of your squadmate's back but also your own
?
Q2 means the second quarter of the year
so April May and June, sometime within that
Does anyone have any suggestions for a mod that tweaks weapon damage values to better distinguish them from each other? Doesn't have to be huge changes or anything, just something so that 7.62x39 isn't literally just 300blk with more recoil and louder.
bonjour
Hello.
my (easy) suggestion would just be to nerf the JHP penetration value of .300blk JHP from 3 to 2
AP 9mm has really bad hit to kill on limbs, so that might be why it feels very different sometimes.
this would leave only 7.62x39 and 7.62x51 as the only JHP ammo types that can penetrate the suspect medium armor
That is an easy fix, I was just hoping there was some kind of fleshed out weapon rebalance mod that keeps 9mm's damage fall off from starting at 2 meters and makes all of the JHP rounds actually do bonus limb damage.
already made? probably not lul
Yeah, I kind of figured.
@muted star might be making one, he asked me to spit out all the "balancing issues" that exist right now and I've been doing so on the big spreadsheet on a new page
Pretty sure gunpowdah does that, but it is bundled with a lot of stuff so I don't know if you want all of it
Or there are some other rebalances I have seen that change ammo performance
I am willing to try other new things, I just want to feel weapons that actually have some intelligent thought behind their roles and function instead of, "use 300blk lol".
Big problem on the backend is that (some) weapons literally share the same damage curves because Void didn't add unique ones to all ammo types, for some reason
Like, don't get me wrong, 300blk is cool, and a good cqb round, but please, please, make the other weapons do SOMETHING better than 300blk besides making more noise and having more recoil.
goofy ass spaghetti
couldn't even be arsed to make a different, but identical damage curve.
pathetic
literally just copy paste the curve, rename it, and then change the curve referenced on the ammo type
it's that shrimple
How is this a problem in a "released" game?
That's some day 1 shit right there.
jfc

I have a migraine now.
suffering
tbh
I never thought I would be so interested in a game because of how terrible it is internally.
Also wym 5.56x45 has same damage curve as 9x18?
i use JHP for 9mm
on a guy who's wearing his uncle's thin knock off nike jacket.
5.45x39
huh
It's the other russian AK one that isn't 7.62x39. Goes in the aks74u
also why do the shooters in elephant have a fucking gas mask
(I am currently forgetting if there are other 5.45x39 guns besides the 74u)
Oh, so it's a damage curve from a suspect weapon.
ye
and i think one of them even has an expensive looking AK
You don't know what's in those bombs.
some wear gas masks, others don't
Some of them are ready to die, and others aren't.
at the end of the day, i just fucking blast them without telling them to surrender :D
I don't see why not.
just feels weird
cosmetic gas masks moment
- its harder to aim with a big fucking gas mask lol
common Void trolling
Thankfully the NPCs in this game don't see with their eyes like we do. I can safely say the gas mask does NOT negatively impact their accuracy.
another L
be me
turns corner
gets shot in the head by a suspect wearing a gas mask instantly
wonder if theres a mod for that lol
im actually waiting for a mod that gives judge and teammates beards
so i can truly larp as CAG.
lmao
I got wallbanged by a mindjolt security and now Iām relatively salty
How does the AI decide when to wallbang?
are you sure it wasnt a windowed door? there are a lot of visibility areas there and it's annoying
are windowed doors slightly transparent? Iād trust myself enough to not use glass as coverā¦
ifPlayerExists=True then action:WallbangPlayer
they have black stuff covering it so sort of
Maybe? But I used the wall right next to the door as cover
Wait does wall banging work for players to?
it tracks you after you go behind a wall for a split second
and for some reason this is still a feature
this becomes even more of an annoyance when you notice that your bullets can't penetrate the wall they are shooting through
which basically means they can shoot through something with a gun ( that sometimes actually has lower power and calibre realistically speaking )
try it sometimes, you might be surprised what you can shoot through
can't shoot through wall
you're smoking crack
nah, i watched this thin ass wall fucking block 5.56
the enemy right behind it was unphased
The average mindjolt security employee kit:
Thermal vision goggles
Gas masks
1800s authentic diamond-coated musket rounds loaded into a m240 mag
A crusty piece of paper as protection
Cult dagger for sacrificing to your computer overlords
Requirements:
20 years experience in spec ops and navy seals
20 more years just to be sure
Perfect knowledge of the location
HIRING NOW!!!

don't forget
an absurdly unwillingness to surrender to cops
Thatās what the ritual dagger is for
"W-well it got robbed by fake cops before."
They surrounded your building
Calls you to step out
Their swat raids your position
Be surprised
also the "I got wife and kids!" mf after he magdumped his MPX into you
Ngl I kinda wish they would stop shooting you if you comply
Thatās like security guard training 101
If a guy willingly surrenders without firing back, move to arrest him
Actually maybe not if they have full steel plate carriers, shields and a colt python
by that point you should notice they're actually fucking cops
Oh darn wooo
also RON lore is very weird
āStop trespassing!!!!!!!ā
āItās against the law!!!!ā
-> Department is underfunded
-> Able to afford GPNVGs ( and PVS 31s ) for SWAT Team
Like dude I AM the law shut
Doesnt the brief mention mindjot security harassing some employees
Donāt forget about the endless legions of rookies available to them
And somehow hire
Like dudeās able to make you bullet resistant by a really well-cooked salad whatās he doing as a swat officer
its weird just how stupid it is
i think the "Lore accurate" LSPD would be like
PVS-15s. MBVs ( maybe? ). And at best a MK18 Mod.1 lmao
Is the PD being extremely underfunded still a plot point? I remember pre-1.0 it'd be so bad no contractor wanted to enter the building in fear for their lifes
welp, i got a mod that made 5.56 knock someone down with one shot
judging by the fact we're using a fucking museum and haphazardly made it our station
yes, we are infact, probably still heavily underfunded
They're still an LA sized equivalent (if not bigger). They would effectively be front-running for hand me downs and even "underfunded" would still be more funded than most other departments
I thought it was meant to be a train station
still
GPNVGs. Those are...expensive.
LSPD requisitions officer is living vicariously through the SWAT team
importing F90s for some reason
and also AKs
Last I checked Los Sueno borders Mexico, not Russia
The AK at least has -some- basis in reality. More than the F90s/SA-58 which have zero lmao
There are PDs in the US that issue AKs to my understanding
ones in Alaska do
because of the AKs functioning better in the cold or something
yee
meanwhile Judge is bringing the "wallbang overpen-inator 9000" that is the SA-58, for some reason
well Judge is apparently hinted to be some FIA sleeper agent
Fix the damn game!!!!!!
Wait what
Delete greased palms fix the ai
some random lore tidbit
I understand that the gas station robbers have a high chance of being CIA operatives, but a frickin sleeper agent?
canonically he quite literally showed up one day, he's pretty quiet about himself.
But he's so good at popping heads and kicking doors that the department's like "We're keeping him."
No background checks?
No prior qualifications?
not that i remember
Damn finally, an accessible entry level job
anyone got an idea how to use console unlocker camera mod
anyone know why the m24 and m4a1 arent selectable? they're blacked out
nvm I cant switch to any gun
@vagrant zephyr a tip for when you play carriers of the vine
if you see someone with a gun, shoot first
Isnāt carrier of the vine that cult map?
I briefly recall it when I ran zombie or not
yep
the enemies there are weird
scrawny ladies armed with G3s and M14s. Full auto with perfect recoil control
Two goobers who donāt understand basic tactics versus the entire farming industryā¦
Ron is tough with just two peopleā¦
It's very messy since the last patch. Enemies shoot at you without seeing you, and they can take punishment like the T-1000...I mean like a dozen hits or so(5,56) and they still move. That COD, not RON.
sources cited:
playing the game xd
while blindfolded
bro fell for the classic "replace your 5.56 magazines with rubber bullets" bit
I don't think they can even survive that many pepper hits
Okay well yes they can survive that many pepper
But if you're "shooting" someone 12 times, you either got some really fuckin broken mods, or you're not hitting anything
yeah??? but what about shooting gerard in the foot 72 times to kill him with 9mm AP???????
Gerard has the game all figured out
if he just stapled feet onto himself, he'd be invincible
me after blowtorching the vin off my car for no reason in particular
carrier is fun except for the middle yard and the house in the back of the map both places always give me heart attacks
unrelated but the AK is a great rifle ingame 
based on the enemy, primarily tweakers and meth heads, they could take a few more rounds than the average joe or pmc member
oh boy i sure do love playing ron for the first time on commander mode and not knowing, and losing everything on carriers
would definitely like to see some more AKs considering they opened the door already (and there are a bunch already used by suspects)
use .300 blk on suspects. remove arms
no that's for the beretta 1301 boomstick 
Isn't the recoil absolute ass?
Pretty much, yeah
bouncy but people say the 416 has bad recoil, which it doesn't at all lmao 
void devs after announcing cool features for over a year, releasing the update, bringing us only 25% of what they teased, adding 2 more maps related to CP and then releasing completely irrelevant bug fixes for the next 6 months
||go work for them and fix the game ig
||
i donāt even get how you manage to slide CP related stuff into a mission about a streamer
It's alarmingly common in real life
I haven't played RON in a while, how much has the performance been fixed from the release of 1.0
Also what's the second map related to CP you're talking about
Some 100-series AKs in 7.62 and 5.56 would be nice, but would a 5.45 version make sense in this scenario? The preformance is basically identical to 5.56 and the LSPD already has plenty of that laying around
Saving it for another update.
does the game run a lot better now?
Wowww
there's more 7.62 and 5.56 100 series already in game, ur just not allowed to use them 
Iāve never had issues with gameplay even before 1.0 but i do get a few more lag spikes
Mainly because my computer is aging though
I know I'm just talking officially implementing it
i have a 3060 and a ryzen 5 5600 with 16gb of ram and i remember having trouble running certain maps after the 1.0 release
Ok but why canāt we wear gas masks and night vision at the same time as shown in the screenshots from devs
Port and some extremely detailed maps cause lag
theres not much more thought to it than that
False advertising
lmao
if thats what you want to call it
i'm just wondering has void fixed some of the performance issues
I only buy the game because I saw that advertisement meaning the game is a scam
We should have bank robberies and stuff instead of CP and minors
performance was DRASTICALLY improved for me with the most recent hotfix
went from like 30-40fps average to 90+ smooth
(mileage may vary)
yeah but there are some fringe cases where people claim that performance is worse, so it would be best to just see how it runs on your computer with your specs
damn i'll have to check it out
what specs
Can I check my team's traits anywhere
i7-8700K CPU @ 3.7GHz (clocked at 4.3GHz)
31.9 GB of Ram 2400 MHz
3070 Ti founders card, 8 GB
I always kinda assumed that 5.45 was invented because it's obviously more practical to manufacture your own caliber in your home country rather than buying 5.56 from the country you're possibly going to war with, am I right?
it was honestly absurd how bad 1.0 shit on performance
so a little better than mine
8700k gang 
i had a 3060 and it ran at as low as 10 fps in some areas of some maps
some guy the other day told me that my cpu was the reason ron was running badly, I almost blew a gasket
and i had graphics all the way down and dlss all the way up
imagine how bad it would run on a 1060 which is the reccomended gpu for the game
the reccomended gpu for the game was a 1060, if it was optimized well a 3060 should've ran it fine
I can play any new release game well past comfortably. Haven't found one that runs poorly yet
I don't really care how a game is running as long as it's not noticeably bad
obviously no 4k and shit, but idc about that
i get an fps range of 150-300 on cs2
1080p and good fps, I'm good
only times I bother to check is if I notice stutters or its super laggy
otherwise I don't really care when I'm running 100+ or it's a solid 40
I used to run this on a GTX 1080 and an i7. It did ok
as long as theres no major variations I am unbothered
according to void you still should be able to run the game
I did. That's what I'm saying
Like medium settings I think but it wasn't capping out my monitor or anything
The performance on the game is a mystery. Who knows.
good god there needs to be some sort of strike system to friendly ai turning against you. I was in the tower on port looking for the last guy, he was shooting me with surprising accuracy from the shipping yard, I fire at him, hit some random ass downed suspect behind him and get executed by my teammates
The FAFO of checking your fire
How do I check team traits bruh
i feel like void should be focusing on performance first and foremost
That is act of god levels of bad luck then
No it runs well for me skill issue
what specs?
I signed an NDA
i have a 3060, ryzen 5 5600, 16gb ram
Ryzens are trash and XX60s are meh.
maybe they have fixed the performance i haven't played in a while
i just remember that when 1.0 came out it ran like TRAAAAAAAAASH
A 3050?? DANG
there's still stutters because of the shader caching in UE, but like, I can actually walk around and shoot at people without wondering if I'm going to be dropping to 10-20fps mid gunfight
EOC is double the price of the base grade gpu
ryzens are good doe
tab
Only when doing processes that utilize more multi threading and aren't demanding more out of single cores.
ryzen 5600 are good with single core processing
Which entirely depends on: what's being calculated and: if the software was written to do it
If you say so š
the tavor should be added to RON imo
recent updates have had a good impact on performance for me. Certain areas on maps that had insane FPS drops now run much better.
Gameplay improvements are still a big priority along with performance and bug fixes. Because there is a lot of flaws gameplay wise
we need some sand colored guns
thats good
I still view the Tavor right now like people probably viewed the Luger during WW2
what
It's better not to get into it
the Tavor is an Israeli gun
and considering the stuff going on with israel rn
i don
they have russian guns
how many israeli guns does cs2 have
also RON has gotten in way more controversy before
I dont think there'll be a fuss kicked up over it, just explaining Boopers views
also RON already has israeli guns
yea
so whats the issue i don't get it
i think the tavor would be a cool gun to put in RON
I dont have an issue. Booper just saying they view it the same as people did the luger during ww2. I assume in reference to current events relating to Israel. I dont wanna go into it further
i don't think its comparable
because RON already has israeli guns
i just want more israeli guns so i can go full counter-strike mode
The comparrison wasnt to do with RON just the gun in general
yea
This is such a stupid convo
anyways anyone else having suspects survive headshots and just get incapped
intentional fix to headshot damage that came with hotfix #3
calculations have been broke for a long while, side effect of the fix is that some pistol calibers can't 320 -> 0 suspect health in a single shot
it was a global fix for damage calculation, you could get hit with like a 10 damage bullet in the head and it would kill you before this
even though it should only deal like 20 damage
ah
I expect they'll add something else to accomodate it being weird now. Or just raise the multipliers
Can't play Ron cause my mouse killed itself and I bound squad commands to a side button-
And fuck the trackpad-
i hate on large maps when i canāt find the ONE remaining suspect or civilian
this happened on the sins of the father map i spent 30+ minutes clearing every room and marking it on the map because i couldnāt find the last civilian and turns out they were in a corner of a balcony i couldnāt see
This happened to me the other day on sins, I assume on the exact same balcony
The door to the balcony was open and we passed right by it a bunch of times cus I assumed the odds that heād be out there were highly unlikely
Ahhhhh based on your info its elephant, I was worried that might be the one. I S-Ranked in multiplayer but naturally multiplayer doesn't track achievements, says I got an A+ on it
time to beat my head into the wall again once im free lol
I like how my team got killed and the briefing says they are a little anxious about it
all of my guys rushed through a trap without waiting for me
guys is farming gas station for officer traits a good early game strat
esc > back to headquarters > confirm
How do you NOT get unauthorized use of force?
Do not shoot people unless they are firing or their gun is in an aiming position
donāt you fail the level then tho
Ty
what level does the placeholder gas station ost play in again
idk i dont play campaign
gross
my officers quit too much because i have bad aim and use like 20 mags per mission
bonus stat farming
I only really use guns to shoot carriers' feet so they surrender
we putting them in the gas station trait farm š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø
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i have a massive (20 mods lmao) and one of then allows me to MURDER SUSPECTS INDISCRIMINATELY
while my officers either stay content or somehow go into crisis
i think you would make a great police officer
get the more suspects mod
its like 20-40 suspects on most maps
and then get a mod that gives you more slots
very fun police experience
as in reserve cop slots or
active team members
Are officer traits like Armorer stackable?
would be funny to run a full intimidator team with lethals and kill nothing
- No, utility slots to bring more gear
- Not possible
- Yes
16 guys with 90 mags and no suppressors šš
Yeah itāll mark the level as incomplete, if youāre in that situation and the search and secure button isnāt working, thereās likely one suspect/civilian hidden in a room on the opposite side of the map you havenāt opened yet.
If you want to just bail out, go back to where your infil point is with the swat trucks, make your squad move over to you, and then exfil with squad
i have a mod that gives me 100 slots i always bring at least 50 ap mags with me š
bro out here using one full mag per suspect MINIMUM
Breaching shotguns for using traps against enemies
You can actually use a breaching shotgun to 1 tap Gerard when he gets close to the door in a lethal obsession
open all doors on the map
search and secure
clearance by fire baby
4 mags per room no exceptions
RATTLE EM BOYS 
After watching some current conflict videos I too wanna clear rooms by dumping mags into the thresholds
only one?
sheeeeeit
If you aināt mag dumping everything that moves at least twice, are you even securing the suspects?
who said something about securing
who needs a funeral service if your turning them into ashes
Just a vacuum cleaner or a broom and a pan
what mod
itās called like more slots or smth i js changed it to give more than the mod gives
howād you change it then
Nah just kill the suspects parents, saves you time for he was the One that provoked you
i have a gunfighter AIO pack and i can just go into it and change the loadout
since GF gives 25 slots for all armors
what up gang š
Gunfighter gives 25 tactical slots
Ik
so you can have 25 AP mags
I usually have like 7 on me. 4 primary 3 pistol
i carry 8:3 on guns
I use my pistol more often than not so thatās why i didnāt use it on gear, i have everything i need though on gear
and i give 10:2 to my heavy
if i die in valley of the dolls ONE MORE TIME ISTG im gonna blow my brains out like George Brixley /j
mudasir
Anyone got any advice for Elephant? I tried switching spawns so now I'm at the northern exit (stops me and my squad from getting shot/instantly aggroing the shooters) and I've had success, but sometimes there's just a random gunshot that goes off at spawn and it's one fuckoff civ getting pinged by one of these nerds
Elephant is a very funny map when it comes to gameplay
I just spawn south entrance and rush in guns blazing
Valid
Iām trying to S-Rank single player itās the last one I need for Medal of Valor
I hope this game keeps getting updates I donāt play many games on steam but this shit so fun
bro loves being dominated by a crackhead on an angle
Dude the veterans at brisa cove wallbang you 24/7
just get ripped in half by an M249 from the center room
it's also frustrating to S Rank
even if you do all the things right they're so hard to make submit
I cannot lie doe

Just..not that "weird" way, the "challenge" way
ngl neon tomb was easy compared to brisa cove/sins of the father
I'm just mad that I'm stuck here running elephant again and again til i get an S-Rank
Like I S-ranked RELAPSE and Hide and Seek before Elephant
anybody know the conditions that need to be met in order to get the hanged man achievement
For the "use only" acheivements, spawn and swap off primary immediately. You cannot use or pull out: NVG, any long tactical, wedges, anything not listed on the achievement that requires left clicking, or the multitool. Your swat using rifles does not matter (and is in fact how you deal with most of the suspects), but I would recommend not having them do anything other than hold, stack up, cover, follow, enter and clear, open and clear, or kick and clear, and search and secure
does having ballistic mask matter?
and does quick throwing flashes not count
Does anyone here know how to get the alternative entry point on ides of march to work?
bmask or goggles are ok, quick throw should be okay as long as you do not left click if you pull out the primary afterward
You should be using your ai to kill all the suspects anyway, so you just have a flash out permanently IMO
try select the second one then the first. Some maps have spawn_2 as the first high-lighted option, but spawn_1 is always default selected because of a bug.
You should be able to confirm if you look at the map in the tablet
Thank you !!! I saw the little message saying Residential Stairwell is current entry point, that's the bottom right entrance right?
I'm not familiar with it, but you should be able to figure it outš
Hopefully I got this right, because there's no going back once I enter the meat locker
The other entrance is a meat grinder
It didn't work...
fire exit or residential stairwell on ides of march
pretty sure it's broken and you can't really choose but I could be wrong and they fixed it
Is there a way to equip the taser and shield without mods?
Literally at the last gunman I ended up getting shot to him. Smh. I was that close to finishing.
Anybody recommend what qualifications I should put on my team
does deleting save data remove all your unlockables
suspects seem to just ignore pepper spray?
You have to wait it spread before they start effect
no they are effected, the just continue on, was trying to arrest a suspect. had to taser him after peper spray didnt work 4 times in a row
"a lot" is generous, but a lot of testing isn't necessary to reach a conclusion tbh.
all it take is successfully maneuvering into pepper spraying range of a suspect once and realizing that, despite them visually gesturing like they're getting blinded by it, watching them continue to shoot at you no matter how much you dodge and continue to refuse your calls for compliance
Thats reason Im using beanbag
Obligatory: Taser is best LTL weapon plug
Idk the range of taser
More than you'd guess
You can reach out across almost every hall in gas station, for example.
Noice
I wish one thing that: When you shoot the taser at suspect, they will drop lik3 dead then slowly stand up, that will be great
Car battery when
does anyone but me have an issue where when ya launch/load a mission, it boots them to the main menu with no errors?
ive already posted it in the forums but i wanted to see if there was a fix to this as this is only happening on my single player playthrough on commander mode. Its only happening on Sinuous Trail mission
They should add pocket sand as a tactical item smh
guys
whats the officer roster meta for completely lethal no significance or care for life runs
having played with handgun only, for several rounds now. I really start to question the accuracy of handguns. even shooting at an almost point blank it just seems shots aren't connecting?
anyone else have the same experience?
handguns in this game are extremely inaccurate when firing quickly
i dont think the accuracy is the problem but rather their damage like even if you hit someone at basically point blank even unarmored suspects might take 3+ rounds to go down
had a guy in a hoodie on relapse take 6 or 7 shots at >5m range only to surrender
when playing handgun with a shield and laser sight, they shoot extremely accurate imo and suspects go doing easily with controled fire and a laser pointer indeed. But trying to iron sight them. even when you shoot several shots with iron sight spot on. nothing seems to come from it
its just the swat having weak grip thats why they having trouble handling recoil
also, trying out the sniper scopes it seems they only shoot in the top left corner for some odd reason.
why do i find the college mission fun
What is the best route for valley of the dolls? I always get killed from some blind angle or through glass ornsomething
clear upstairs to main lobby - wedge door fall back,
clear floor below to main lobby including garden area and return inside - wedge door fall back,
clear ground floor to right side.
from there it is adapatable towards enemy positions inside lobby or outside.
if more inside move from inside outisde if more outside do the opposite
ides of march is the most fun mission for multiplayer, hearing people blow up by a door they kick in without thinking always gets me laughing š
the 1000 inch brisa cove stare
Does anyone here miss some elements of the old ready or not?
checkin in
Wdym by checkin in?
checkin in
So do you miss some aspects of thr early release game?

checkin in
Like i miss some parts of the maps.. the 1.0 maps have some areas closed off
Ohh rigjt i eemember this map haha. I legit just forgot it was called that lol
Uh, how to check witch is my highest score on certain mission?
Go into said mission
Exfil or die
Look at PB
Finished all missions on S rn, i realized i miss 1, idk witch one xDDD
I hope you have a SSD
NVME M.2 š
It was lethal obsession, lmaao, easiest of them all
Real
Didn't saw any if i remember correctly, even if it was, it was provably some minor patch of 50kb
Maybe when I verified my files. Thanks @crystal sierra
Holy fuck
I finally got Elephant S-Rank in singleplayer, no civs got shot by shooters, none of my guys died, nobody accidentally thumped a shooter in the head with a beanbag
Today is a glorious day
RNG smiles upon you
I once had an A+ run ruined by my ai squadmate beanbag headshooting a non-compliant civ in front of the police van
Honestly probably Armorer, Nutritionist, Kicker, and Paramedic if you're trying to stay balanced and keep your swat team alive. Otherwise I would guess just stack Armorer/Nutritionist and sweep and clear
i dont think they can kill with beanbag after the recent update
unless its somehow broken
Beanbag headshots kill and have always killed (if you ignore the very early access)
in player hands sure
Dude I hate that, I had two civs get bugged and I nearly S-Ranked it - but noooo the flashbang I used to get them to comply flashed 3 of my AI and it counted as 3 counts of friendly fire
Well that makes it a lot easier lmao
Oh that's what you mean myb