👮ron-discussion

[tropic sleet]

This^

[barren plaza]

have the last few hotfixes fixed the FPS drops?

[summer copper]

is buy cheap, buy twice supposed to be harder than neon tomb or did i just get extremely lucky with neon tomb

[shy tulip]

Which one is buy twice again

[floral bramble]

I think a map similar to the corridors of the SCP containment breach game would be nice and could fit very well with the Themis-05 Outfits and suspect mod, wish i knew how to do stuff like that ong

[umbral oar]

i was struggling more on dealership than club

[summer copper]

car dealership

[shy tulip]

Oh

Idk car dealer was really easy for me

[summer copper]

yea i just can't get it down, i got COD timing and killed pretty instantly

looked at an area, looked away, got shot from it by a guy who wasn't there when i looked

i looked back but didn't get him quick enough

[shy tulip]

You certainly want to move with your team to cover all your angles

[summer copper]

they were all behind me

they didn't have the angle on the guy

i had them on fall in

[kindred temple]

i get stuttering everytime i approach the parking lot

[crystal sierra]

If only AI teammates wouldn't check unnessesary angles xD

[summer copper]

finally got it but apparently killed a civvie that i dont remember killing

[crystal sierra]

That's nothing new, yesterday i had strange af situation on relapse S run, all my Ai teammates have empty pistols + beanbags and paperball guns, nothing lethal, in last room at the end of the map, i magically found dead suspect

[umbral oar]

they shot themself

[runic shuttle]

they off themselves when overwhelmed.

[foggy zinc]

hello officers

how are we today

[runic shuttle]

officery?? Ig??

[summer copper]

happens to the best of us

[runic shuttle]

you know what also happens to the best of us?

[summer copper]

go on

[runic shuttle]

cutting our fingers..

[summer copper]

oh

[runic shuttle]

help it kinda hurts.

[summer copper]

chat would moving the game to my SSD make it perform better

[summer copper]

was it fingertip?

one time i sliced my fingertip open with a log spike

[runic shuttle]

no like, there's a huge ahh cut on one of my fingers.

[summer copper]

you should consider cleaning that up

[runic shuttle]

i did but it's like, making the pain a lil worse.

[summer copper]

just gotta thug that shit out

[runic shuttle]

nah

i'm instead making a private military with the boys

[remote flame]

18/18 S completion.. forgot what guns feel like lol

[foggy zinc]

what's a gun

the VKS is the only weapon in the game

[remote flame]

would have taken half the time if the paintball gun was still in lol

[compact sequoia]

has anyone tested hotfix 4's performance?

does the game run better now

[muted star]

For me it seems like it

[foggy zinc]

i wasn't expecting a hotfix today lel

[hardy plinth]

@crude prism what do you mean by L2A and stuff in your spreadsheet?

[jolly verge]

L2, L3A is armor type that some suspects use. Read "Armor, Vest, Helmets" table

[tribal lodge]

Is there a way to get your AI teammates to use less lethal means on no-shoots, or will they beam everyone who lifts their gun at you?

[hardy plinth]

oooh awesome, thanks

[crude prism]

the suspects get their own suite of armor yeah, different stats then what the players get

I'm just using the actual filenames for them, "L2" "L3A" "Armour4"

[runic shuttle]

ᶦᵗ'ˢ ᵃˡˡ ᶠᵘⁿ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵍᵃᵐᵉˢ ᵗᶦˡˡ ˢᵒᵐᵉᵒⁿᵉ ᵖᵘˡˡˢ ᵘᵖ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵃ ˡ³ ˢᵘᶦᵗ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵃ ᵇᵃˡᶦˢᵗᶦᶜ ᵐᵃˢᵏ

[crude prism]

why are you whispering?

[runic shuttle]

ᵘʰʰʰʰʰ ʸᵉᶻ

[thorn knot]

6 GB update
Shooting an enemy in the head still doesnt kill them

[foggy zinc]

START YELLING RIGHT NOW

[foggy zinc]

i think they changed how damage and headshotting fundamentally works

[long cypress]

I just got on, gotta give it to 'em, my game runs a bit better now, even got a bit of a FPS boost aswell.

[foggy zinc]

mr MMMM can assist i imagine

[runic shuttle]

ₙᵤₕ ᵤₕ

[thorn knot]

I'm shooting people in the head with a .556 and they are being incapacitated

[crude prism]

headshot multipliers have been broken since (at least) Adam. Resulting in instant kill all the time regardless of health/bulletdamage/etc.

Feb 6th patch fixed the multipliers. Because of this, some suspects (and players) can survive headshots assuming they are at full health
(depends on map too because some have increased health values)

[thorn knot]

Ides of March. No suspect is wearing a helmet. All will survive a .556 to the head 100% of the time

[runic shuttle]

ᵇˡᵘᵈˢ ᵗʰᶦⁿᵏ ᵗʰᵉʸ ᵃʳᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵖʳᵗᵒᵃᵍᵒⁿᶦˢᵗ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ᶠᵃˡˡᵒᵘᵗ ⁿᵉʷ ᵛᵉᵍᵃˢ

[thorn knot]

Real people die when shot in the head with a .556

[feral sequoia]

the game runs perfectly now, 10/10 hotfix update

[crude prism]

Ides is a map where suspects have 125% HP (400) compared to the base 320.

5.56 at 122.5 damage with the 3x multiplier is only 367.5 damage.

It's just a quirk of the system being fixed in the previous patch, I expect there will be a new check added for direct-headshots versus something that hits you like through a wall

[long cypress]

Absolutely agree, I noticed that the game stutters less when you load in. Sure there's still some of it left but it's not as crucial as it was last time.

[crude prism]

It's definitely a bit funny once you notice it, but it doesn't really impact gameplay

[foggy zinc]

it could save runs as well for arresting targets for higher scores by incapping

[crude prism]

I don't believe score matters for SWAT stress. It's only counting the number of people killed to number of people arrested

[runic shuttle]

ᵒᵏ ᶦᵐ tired of speaking in tiny.

[thorn knot]

It doesn't seem fixed if its working worse now than it did before

[compact sequoia]

i mean, they're still out of the fight when shot in the head soooooo

[thorn knot]

I understand that headshots won't kill 100% of the time. But if I shoot a guy in the back of the head with a rifle point blank, and they will survive 100% of the time, that's fucky

[crude prism]

I mean the literal code is fixed. Whether or not it's 'good' in the current state is another question lul

[runic shuttle]

so if a headshot just knocks em out, does it make it easier to S rank maps now?

[thorn knot]

Fair. It might be working as intended now, but its stupid and headshots are lethal on the whole, and its really weird to see people survive

[thorn knot]

No, you have to take them without incapacitating either

[crude prism]

now that the system is functional again, they can make changes and get the appropriate damage results in the future

[long cypress]

I love when I shoot someone in the back of their head only for them to scream at the top of their lungs.

[thorn knot]

Exactly. people are focusing too much on score and not on how jarring it is for a guy wearing no helmet to start making the most noise possible from what should be a lethal round

On ironman mode I don't care if I don't get the most score. What I care about is not having every suspect alerted because the guy i put a round into the forehead of alerted them all

[crude prism]

I don't think the AI "hears" the other AI yelling? Wouldn't it just be the gunshots alerting them? Or seeing a body?

You'd have to get a replay where shooting someone from really far away alerts enemies nearby to them that CANNOT see the guy you shoot

[feral sequoia]

no not the stutters, the fps is huge, i had to run dlss before with everything low except for textures on epic to make the game somewhat playable and now i can play 1440p without dlss with shadows on high medium post processing and vfx high and view distance low at 130+fps

[thorn knot]

Also to confirm, I just shot every Ides of March suspect in the head with an HK416 (GA416) with a muzzle break and every suspect survived

no helmets

[compact sequoia]

wow that much fps improvement?

[feral sequoia]

yep

[compact sequoia]

nice

[crude prism]

mild inconvenience

[feral sequoia]

i wish we could ban this watchmenyoutube guy that holds lobbies hostage

[thorn knot]

True, now I can shoot every suspect in the head without alerting them and receive no unauthorized use of lethal force

[feral sequoia]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199585129235/

this guy does nothing but sit in public hosted lobbies with preaching

[thorn knot]

ez ironmode

[stone bay]

Oh yeah I experienced him

Download in game mod menu

And you can have a server list

[long cypress]

Yeah I also got a nice FPS boost, although I still run DLSS on Ultra quality.

[feral sequoia]

if i do that i can't join checksum lobbies though right?

[stone bay]

Idk I only play lobbies from another discord I found now since this one is kinda iffy

But

[compact sequoia]

i've never met this watchmen guy

does he appear in asia?

[stone bay]

Probably USA based

Weird game to troll in tho but yeah it is kinda a problem I only ran into him once

[compact sequoia]

think i've heard of him doing the same thing in lethal company before

[crude prism]

you'll still get unauth force penalties for incapping people if the shoot isn't justified

and ironman stress is based on kills/incaps, not just kills

the only thing you can 'cheese' is the 'arrest specific person' objectives

[thorn knot]

Wym? Lethal force can cause your own team to kill you and your own health to go to minimum lmao. No worries with just regular force. And you don't lose ironman when teammates quit

[crude prism]

you lose the dev watch if people quit, die, or are fired

[thorn knot]

Did I say dev watch? Reading comprehension

[summer copper]

can't blame the guy for assuming that's what your going for

[crude prism]

The bots might not specifically target you for unjustified incaps, but you'll have to be using 9mm the whole time and be veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery careful about only hitting heads, or else they'll drop you

5.56 won't work on every map

[thorn knot]

nah, 556 works just fine, and anywhere on the body works

literally no downside to just dropping them on sight

[crude prism]

yeah it's pretty goofy that you're not penalized for basically throwing the game on ironman that way

Just another oversight on commander mode

[tough spire]

Omg is hotfix 4 seriously that tiny little paragraph of quick fixes and nothing about AI?

[fast sage]

whats the hardest map to S grade?

[crude prism]

supposedly it's a crazy good optimization patch based on comments in the discords and on the forums

[tough spire]

Well that's something at least.

[crude prism]

we take wins where we can get them 🤷

[tough spire]

Never had any performance problems so meaningless to me but happy for all the people it'll help

[shy tulip]

If you still strugglin with the AI at this point, I dunno what to say

[crude prism]

king of 'skill issue' doesn't know what to say?

[thorn knot]

I think what you can say is that the AI is shit

[rocky plover]

well depends how you look at it, map layout, number of suspects, it's really personal preference

[tough spire]

The struggle is that the AI are comically bad to the point where I've solo taser only the entire game since #3 came out. So. Yeah.

[crude prism]

probably Relapse, or Cherryessa

[shy tulip]

I think we're in agreement on the taser then

[tough spire]

Struggling with AI meaning "they're a joke" and not "they're hard" then yes.

[tough spire]

Right now I'm kinda working on my Ironman no officer dead run but like, I take point the entire time on my game right now and am already up to Voll House and haven't felt challenged so I've kinda lost steam to keep playing

[thorn knot]

Sins of the Father. No helmets, survive a 556 to the head 100% of the time

They have a moment of being stunned when they see me, so I just shoot them point blank in the head

[shy tulip]

Considering headshots are an instant kill for anything but pistols, I dunno

[thorn knot]

False

[shy tulip]

RoNs hitbox is very unforgiving so it is entirely possible you missed

[stone bay]

The Glock one shots

[shy tulip]

The head and neck are literally instant kill areas

[muted star]

not anymore I guess

[thorn knot]

Dude I literally am getting incaps 100% of the time against suspects in Ides of March using a 556

[summer copper]

i noticed in the firing range that bullets land just slightly under the actual red dot

[thorn knot]

Play the game, dude.

[summer copper]

why everybody passive aggressive

[thorn knot]

Nope, they get incap'd on Ides of March and Sins of the Father

[thorn knot]

Passive aggression is how they deny any problem with the game

[thorn knot]

They are on the ground screaming with chunks of their head missing

[summer copper]

the devs?

[tough spire]

Which 556 are you using I'll try to replicate and screengrab it

[thorn knot]

It happens on Elephant too. Suspects without helmets shot in the head with one round will merely be incapicitated

[thorn knot]

HK416/GA416 with a muzzle break. Single shot only to the head, no other damage. On maps: Elephant, Ides of March, and Sins of the Father (of the ones I've tried so far)

[thorn knot]

If you have different results please let me know, it's 100% of the time for me

[tough spire]

Wait you're saying they're on the ground missing chunk of head but also saying they're only incapacitated?

[thorn knot]

Correct

That's why this whole thing started because people were defending that by saying that it's better for score.

Idk about you but I feel like they should be dead

[tough spire]

That's easy enough for you to screen cap

[thorn knot]

Like, shoot them directly in the head, no obstructions or anything. Point blank if possible

It happens 100% of the time for me on those maps

[tough spire]

Yeah just send us a screencap of a chunked head with "incapacited" no problem for you then. Or more accurately - send it to bug reports

[thorn knot]

And another thing I want to stress is that these suspects aren't wearing any head protection either. Ball caps if anything

[crude prism]

this got 'fixed' with the feb 6th patch earlier this month, headshot multipliers were broken and resulting in instant death 99.9999% of the time for all actors... players, civs, suspects, SWAT AI

[crude prism]

idk about dismemberment, but you can 100% splatter brain chunks onto the wall and have the person be alive (but incapped) since the patch on the 6th

just use 9mm on literally any map

[foggy zinc]

man just use a shotgun and blow their limbs off if u want them ded

especially on elephant, screw them kids amirite

[thorn knot]

Google over penetration

Assuming you're using a slug. If not, then I shudder at using buckshot in hostage situations

[frozen gazelle]

is anyone else having a hard time trying to get the game to launch after the patch?

[tough spire]

I never understood the appeal of slugs

[thorn knot]

good armor penetration if you want it. Good terminal effect, but messy and can over penetrate

[tough spire]

But I already have a 7.62

[thorn knot]

Yeah it definitely is impractical unless you're trying to take down the juggernaut

[crude prism]

slugs are 1 hit incaps for those maps where the SA-58 is not

I guess they're technically for fighting through enemy cover as well, but that's basically never done in this game lol

[foggy zinc]

SA-58 is exclusively for the gas station robbers

everyone else can get a serving of 300 blackout

[tough spire]

It's so good tho

Like why would you ever run anything else

[crude prism]

for fun

I like smgs, even if they're not the most effective lul

[foggy zinc]

LVAR has nicer animations which is why i run it

[crude prism]

thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk

(i hit him 900 times and he lived because 9mm lmao)

[foggy zinc]

i trashed on the LVAR previously but it's grown on me

[foggy zinc]

9mm on elephant for extra fun

mfs are stunned by a full mag

honestly besides weapons i am in serious need of new drip

my officer looks like pee pee poo poo imo

[tough spire]

Actually yeah I do love subs from a fun standpoint. Mp9 is my baby.

[foggy zinc]

mp7 is the only smg i use cuz armor pen and mega mag size

[tribal lodge]

why not p90 then?

[foggy zinc]

looks goofy

[tribal lodge]

based

mp7 is sexy asf

[foggy zinc]

wack aaa bullpup design

mp5 has some janky animations from what i remember which is why i dont use it either

[tough spire]

Don't you dare slander the Stargate gun

[foggy zinc]

idk what you're talking about so i suppose i can continue my relentless slander

resistance is futile

[tough spire]

https://tenor.com/view/sg1-stargate-homer-simpson-the-simpsons-portal-gif-15967723

[crude prism]

MP7: a weapon so good that invading alien forces have started using it instead of the energy weapons they brought

[tough spire]

P90 is the Stargate gun 😛

[foggy zinc]

i'd use the spc9 if it didn't burn through ammo

tbh i think i need more work on shot placement more than anything

[tough spire]

There's literally a whole scene in the show where they explain why the P90 outclasses the energy weapons and it makes perfect sense. But since we're not fighting aliens I'll stick with my baby MP9

[muted star]

Why am I not surprised that HK would sell out to the Alien Overlords if they had a chance

[crude prism]

space cash baybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

gotta get that space bag

[sour furnace]

Anyone elses performance been 10 times worse since the update?

straight up 15-20 fps

[muted star]

for me it's better

[fast sage]

Can i get some type of ban for using wemod?

[sour furnace]

I mean, not really a line between unlock all and other cheat mods on nexus and wemod, no?

I'd assume not

[fast sage]

ill try it

[frosty badger]

Thought on new hotfix update?

[fading quiver]

what is it

[foggy zinc]

tiny bug fixes and overall performance boost afaik

patch notes are here #patch-notes message

[fading quiver]

i better not lag

[thorn knot]

#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel message

[thorn knot]

"its entirely possible you missed" ☠️

[lethal sparrow]

All my guys just resigned💀

[smoky cedar]

“🎵Fuck this shit, I’m out, m m mmmm 🎵”

[lethal sparrow]

😭

So uh. How do I get new guys

[smoky cedar]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message Any opinions?

[lethal sparrow]

Its good

But

look at media

[smoky cedar]

Hold TAB, go to “Crew” or whatever it’s called, then click on an empty box with a question mark. You can select a new operative there

[lethal sparrow]

thanks

[smoky cedar]

Oh shit

[lethal sparrow]

What?

[smoky cedar]

Yeah if they’re in therapy or incapacitated the game will select random content or anxious ones for you. None of your members resigned

[lethal sparrow]

btw I purposely shot all of my ai team lmao

[smoky cedar]

If you kill one then they get incapacitated and the rest of your team becomes paranoid as FUCK

[lethal sparrow]

ooh

[smoky cedar]

After killing you of course**

[lethal sparrow]

When I had the option to report, it said, "Report dead"

[gentle stream]

What does the "New Mission Available: !" mean?
I just finished the Sinuous Trail mission.

[smoky cedar]

If you open the command wheel while your far away enough from your teammates that they don’t blow your head off, you can open the command wheel and all of them will say “KILL ME”

[smoky cedar]

You can go back to the briefing room and begin a new one. Simple as that

Missions unlock after beating one

[lethal sparrow]

I thought I say, "KILL ME"

[smoky cedar]

It’s an Easter egg

[lethal sparrow]

I know

[gentle stream]

Yes I know, but there are no new missions.

[lethal sparrow]

I did it

[smoky cedar]

?? Send in media

[brittle sable]

They... did. Did you look?

[thorn knot]

#🐜archived-bug-reports-channel message

[tough spire]

Nice. Good report

That's wild

[worthy scarab]

have you guys noticed better performance in the last hotfix?

[thorn knot]

In all honesty, I have. Credit where its due

[earnest quail]

Hello guys, I started a unit and I need 8 more members to be a part of it to become official so will you help me out? The unit’s called 75th ranger regiment and we are looking for staff members of 2 departments

Send me a DM if interested

[smoky cedar]

Mic needed?

[earnest quail]

No

[smoky cedar]

Whoosh

[earnest quail]

Well except if your applying for a instructor position

[modern birch]

OOOOOH, the thing that the guy on the radio always says is "TOC" to entry team, not "TALK" to entry team! loooool what a strange pronounciation in the radio messages

so "talk" is NOT a codename, ROFLLLL

[tough spire]

If you have the sound off and only subtitles on he says "Closed Captioning to Entry Team"

[ebon ginkgo]

does it actually

[vestal mauve]

TOC to Entry Team, George M deployed

[inland wolf]

I fucked up

Kill me

Do me a favor will ya?

Uhhhhhh TOC

[frail quartz]

"Last one to start magdumping me has to pay for everyone else's counseling!"

[modern birch]

"George M"?

[vestal mauve]

George
Motherfucking
M

[modern birch]

HAHAHA fantastic!

[modern birch]

Who is that?

[silk junco]

george m

[vestal mauve]

The most useful member of Entry Team

[tough spire]

In 1.0 they had AI-generated subtitles and "Door Jam" would sometimes show up as "George M out"

[modern birch]

"door jam"? Do you mean wedge?

[tough spire]

Same thing, yes

[modern birch]

AI-generated subtitles...

[inland wolf]

is that why you are named that

[vestal mauve]

Entry Team to talk

[frail quartz]

"IT'S A PIE!"

[tough spire]

Yes. To keep the idiotic joke alive.

[modern birch]

YES!!!!

[frail quartz]

Do not slander the George M name like this

[tough spire]

Shoutout to my favorite frenemy on the server @bright valley who is named over the "Chem Light" blunder.

[inland wolf]

Go, use the George M

Kim Light out.

[bright valley]

poggers dude

[vestal mauve]

George M and Kim Light are my two best squad mates

[glass ether]

its a pie

[tough spire]

We gotchu fam.

[inland wolf]

Use the George M

[vestal mauve]

Red, pi that door

[inland wolf]

Dropping a Kim Light.

Kim Light.

[frail quartz]

Kim Light isn't very good at the "light" part if you ask me

[foggy zinc]

kenlight, chemline

[vestal mauve]

Enter, banging door

Blue, want the door

[modern birch]

Guys, now we have to think of something funny that abbreviates to "T.A.L.K.", so that we can claim that he always says "entry team to TALK"
How about "Tactical A..holes Looming Kills"? 🤔

[inland wolf]

no thanks

[tough spire]

TOC stands for "Tactically Outside Chillin'" - it's the dude back in the van.

[inland wolf]

Dropping a Kim Light.

Putting down a Kim Light.

[modern birch]

Why does the radio guy even make the "O" into an "aw"? Instead of "TOC" ("tok") he basically always says Tawc... 😒

[vestal mauve]

"TOC, we have a civilian dead"
"Roger that 😎"

[restive heron]

Wait do AI Officers need NVGs?

[inland wolf]

"TOC, Civillian."
"Roger that entry team, tag em and keep moving"

[vestal mauve]

No

[restive heron]

o

Ok

Thank

[modern birch]

Guys, in commander mode it's not possible to edit which weapons my teammembers use, right?

[frail quartz]

I was about to make a joke but a word in it got filtered, you can probably infer what I was gonna talk about

[vestal mauve]

Or gas masks
So keep them equipped with ballistic masks

[frail quartz]

B-B-B-But muh realism! ! ! !

[restive heron]

Wait they also don't need gas masks? Thats tragic

[inland wolf]

no it is lol

[restive heron]

The amount of times my officers got headshoted because no ballistic mask

[inland wolf]

use ballist then

[modern birch]

WHAT, how?

[inland wolf]

literally... just edit their loadouts

there is a drop down menu

[modern birch]

Huh ok 🤔 will try next time.

[vestal mauve]

"TOC, suspect is down but breathing"
Roger that 🗿
"TOC, we have a civilian dead here"
Roger that 🗿
"TOC, we have a Code Silver at the hospital. Multiple gunmen with automatic weapons!"
Roger that 🗿

[frail quartz]

"Same shit, different day."

[stone bay]

Sometimes he sounds confused

Like uh ok 🙄 Roger that

[inland wolf]

We need thames now!

[frail quartz]

Thame machine broke, we got pepsi tho

[vestal mauve]

🙄 Roger that entry team 🙄 continue on your mission 🙄

[inland wolf]

you guys want a fresh can of Tangerine Dreamer?

some Dr. Yes

maybe even Dr. Fresh

[kind zinc]

what does squad leader do in multiplayer

[inland wolf]

they are the host usually

they are supposed to be giving you instructions but we know that nobody fuckin listens

[kind zinc]

so just purely roleplay

[stark fox]

the one time there is any emotion in both Judge and TOC is ||at the end of the fucking game too lmao||

I'm guessing we'll see more of that and the story in the dlcs though

bit of a missed opportunity though that only ||port Hokan is where the special voiceline is|| but I guess you can attribute it to being ||Judge's breaking point|| after ||seeing so much fucked up trauma inducing sights in his career||

[inland wolf]

not really lol when you're actually doing shit

[frail quartz]

To be fair, the devs are gonna add unique voicelines for reporting soft objectives in later updates

[stark fox]

oh shit that's pretty cool. I guess it's the same with their planned entry point cutscenes

I wonder if it'll be unique based on the point of entry since there are some maps with different entry points

[frail quartz]

Imagine if they rework one of the apartment/hotel maps to start you out in a no russian esc elevator

[inland wolf]

remembar, no rushen.

[frail quartz]

(The elevators would probably be closed/shut off during an emergency like this though)

[inland wolf]

Clemente :

[frail quartz]

Iiiiiiii don't know what you're referencing

[inland wolf]

Clemente has an elevator spawn option

not sure if it works though since i never use it

[frail quartz]

Oh.

I'm a bit stoopid

[inland wolf]

Rooftop, Balcony, Elevators

[umbral oar]

elevators is my favorite spawn

[smoky cedar]

Pretty sure the Roger That. comes from the SWAT 4 voiceover

[barren finch]

yo chat, and bonus points if ur just some sane af person out here vibin

[smoky cedar]

It does work, it spawns you in at the open elevator inside the hotel

[barren finch]

hows the hotfix

[barren finch]

Toc, I got you a mcdonald's breakfast
Roger that

[inland wolf]

Trailers inbound

[barren finch]

Are you caught up/faimliar with the unbreakable cop lore/stuff from carriers? im not asking to be an ass lol

[smoky cedar]

AI also use special voice lines for certain missions. In the attic of Ends Of The Earth, one member says, “3D printed guns?”
In the children’s bedroom of 213 Park Homes, one says something along the lines of, “Holy shit.. they’re just kids.”
There’s also other special voice lines, but those are 2 notable ones

[stark fox]

Ah yeah I almost forgot about that. I guess I just forgot since I started going through the motions after dying so much in greased palms lol

[smoky cedar]

Entry Team to TOC, your wife is cheating on you.
Roger that. 🗿

With me.
Roger that. 🗿

[stark fox]

Surprised my AI had nothing to say at Voll's house though, probably either a bug or I didn't bring them to those special line rooms

[barren finch]

i was only asking to offer my 2 s cents, i think that would explain why judge is borderline sociopathic lmao is all

[humble mauve]

I think there's about 2-3 for each map for each character (besides judge) with 2 variations of each for talking and whispering

so a few

[stark fox]

Nah but you just gave me a recommendation to look up on

[barren finch]

toc is, honest to god, based as fuck

[smoky cedar]

The special line room is the basement with the comically large picture of a minors face and text all over it like “GOOD GIRL, DADDYS LITTLE BOY, COME TO PAPA”

[smoky cedar]

For real bro

[barren finch]

there is so much on that one dude's corkboard and voice recorders its insane

[stark fox]

also np, it's chill. Some people are condescending as fuck online and you just asked a normal question lol

it's why I don't talk much or do LFG groups to be honest, they got zero patience for the new guys

[barren finch]

yeah i'd always rather err on the side "yo i come in peace," just in case haha

[stark fox]

Got any youtubers in mind for a good lore readup/unbreakable cop lore?

[smoky cedar]

Usually only one is used by one and that’s it. My AI are silent as fuck unless reporting or restraining someone

[barren finch]

yeah Shayne, please shut up has a gorgeous lore series actually

not sure if there's one specifically for carriers, i'd imagine there is, but he's def my go-to guy for RON lore

[stark fox]

oh shit, 17 videos lmao

[smoky cedar]

Shayne, Please Shut Up

[smoky cedar]

same

[humble mauve]

yes it is first come first serve afaik

so first person to hit the trigger says it

something along those lines

[stark fox]

this game goes way deeper than I thought it would with just the levels. They really went all out with their enviRONmental storytelling

[barren finch]

hey did our friendly AI get beefed in hotfix 3 or 4? my boys pulled it out earlier

there's tonnes to most levels tbh, i found it really satisfying combing through and seeing what i could piece together

[inland wolf]

my idiot swat just shot the hostage

and THEN the suspect.

[barren finch]

some of my favorite stuff was probably...uhh, true detective level lmao, learning the girls' motives

[smoky cedar]

All characters have their own unique voice lines, right? Or does it simply vary between who you pick?
I mean like
For example one of my members is DELTA and he’s Isaac, Nyguen. If someone else is placed into DELTA, will they have same voice lines? Or is EVERY SINGLE OPERATOR unique

[stark fox]

yeah. I think what really screwed me storywise was just the exhaustion. I got so exhausted of the game after dying the hundreth time in an open map. This game was not meant for non CQB, fucking hell lmao

[smoky cedar]

I hear a lot of identical voices with different characters

[smoky cedar]

Which map

[stark fox]

everything in greased palms/past it didn't feel fun for me. I still managed to grit through it but it felt like a slog more than anything else lol

the only ones I enjoyed were neon tomb and elephant because elephant had 4 suspects and neon tomb wasn't an open killbox

[smoky cedar]

Love it when all my team members keep fucking killing the VIP. Was so hard to even get past the first section because my teammates always retaliated with deadly force upon sighting him

[barren finch]

relapse def broke me, i tried it like a couple of weeks ago and couldnt find the last hostage, after like 40 minutes i gave up lmao

[inland wolf]

FISA?

[barren finch]

hoping shit like that is fixed

[smoky cedar]

Neon Tomb

[inland wolf]

oh

[stark fox]

oh dude, you know what made me nearly crack?

[inland wolf]

Qaddy

[smoky cedar]

That terrorist leader guy

Fucking annoying when he always tries to go out and a blast and ruin my run

[stark fox]

fucking Hide and Seek

||20|| fucking suspects man. HOW are you meant to do that

[inland wolf]

he kills himself sometimes

[smoky cedar]

Yeah that piece of shit

[inland wolf]

thats not that hard tbh

[barren finch]

i had him commit sudoko right in front of me once, it was harrowing lesson. i was literally like NONONONONO DONT

[inland wolf]

just bash their asses

[smoky cedar]

God I hated when he did that

[stark fox]

me to the last suspect in meth house

[barren finch]

yeah helpful in hindsight my guy

i did not know meth house could do that too

[stark fox]

my fucking thousand yard stare as the suicidal suspect singlehandedly ruins my 40+ minute S rank run

[barren finch]

that was my hawaiin shirt run u sumbitch

[inland wolf]

how the fuck did it take 40 minutes

are you doing it solo?

my runs take as little as 8 minutes

most of the time searching for suspects and civs

[stark fox]

ah sorry my finger hit the 4 key instead of 3. I tried to take it slow and methodically

[barren finch]

most of my missions were ~1hour to learn, easy

[inland wolf]

i get doing it slowly to understand it

even then i still rushed

[stark fox]

I'm pretty new to RON. Hell I never actually downloaded it until it came out lol. So probably just boils down to skill issue

[inland wolf]

fair enough

[smoky cedar]

First time I played 23 mbp/s I got an S and I was rushing through the mission, had no idea what I was doing. It’s easily the simplest mission in the game.

[stark fox]

I just had the thing sitting on my library since I think early december

[inland wolf]

Gas Station :

[inland wolf]

good thing you didnt download it before

your opinion of this game would be VERY strong

[barren finch]

dude getting a guy spawn in the freezer on station can F u up haha

[stark fox]

what was it like pre 1.0?

[inland wolf]

hell.

[stark fox]

lmao and I thought meth wick was nighttmarish

[inland wolf]

imagine a game where

suspects are tracking you at all times

you dare peek and they blast you to fucking narnia

that was pre 1.0 ron

[barren finch]

i remember spawning on Spider and getting insta gibbed through the gate 😂

[stark fox]

fucking hell lmao, I thought it was the opposite

[inland wolf]

sorry no just 1.0 ron, until january update

they cracked up every single suspect

[barren finch]

that one guy if he fucking spawned on the right with the civvy

[inland wolf]

i did all my S ranks before the suspect nerf

except for port hokan

[barren finch]

worst spider run i ever got was both guys spawning right, open door their side and enemy up top

[stark fox]

actual fucking masochist lmao

[smoky cedar]

Gas station has an abundance of enemies with fucking titanium stuffed in their front packs. Also i find it annoying how they all have pistols with fucking 50 BMG loaded in them or something. Always died 2 shot to them. Somehow took a shit damage on my first try and only one enemy died.

[barren finch]

that was a particularly fuck you day

[inland wolf]

i have never once had that issue on gas station lol

[stark fox]

I remember after beating the game, I thought to myself that there was no way in hell I could S rank nor do a ruined watch run without waiting for more AI nerfs

[inland wolf]

did you ever do it?

[barren finch]

only issue i had with gas station was having someone jump me from the freezer, if that spawn was clear its golden

oh sometimes the people outside on left can fuck me up if i forget to check it lol

[stark fox]

I tried and I quit when the methhead splattered his brains all over the grass lmao. I don't want to feel like I didn't earn it with mods so I'm stuck at a standstill

[barren finch]

that cardboard asshole like 👍 every time i panic

[inland wolf]

i duo'd every single S rank mind you

with my friend

[smoky cedar]

Worst 2 runs of my life on spider were when they kept spawning under the fucking map or literally de-spawned mid mission. Sometimes spent 20 mins clearing every corner of the map

Before restarting

[inland wolf]

the map that ive lost the most hair over is probably greased palms

[smoky cedar]

carry me

[inland wolf]

i could if you want

[smoky cedar]

What map is that one

[inland wolf]

Post office

[smoky cedar]

do it

[stark fox]

Shit I won't be surprised if by the end of it you and your friend got sent to the ingame therapy status effect lmao.

on one end I could go full masochist and do it the way VOID intended, on another I could free myself and just say fuck it with a mod that makes things enjoyable, or I could wait for AI patches (that may or not even happen)

[barren finch]

greased palms is honestly that one i got lucky on

post office

[stark fox]

fuck greased palms lmao

[inland wolf]

i was once like you guys

[stark fox]

that was the beginning of my descent to madness

[inland wolf]

then some switch in me flipped

[barren finch]

i got my clear on greased, i was like i dont fuckin care about S rank

[tough spire]

Greased Palms is so fun right now tho

[inland wolf]

my first one was a C+ 😭

[barren finch]

then i realised there's a hawaiin shirt on valley

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah that one. The only difficult part is clearing out enemies because they spawn in HELLA swarms. It’s so fucking open. One second you’re alive, the next second it’s DJCKINF world war 3

[barren finch]

i want that shirt

[inland wolf]

you can get it without the S rank lol

[barren finch]

WHAT

[inland wolf]

just click it and it works i think

[stark fox]

real. That was literally me by the end of the game

[smoky cedar]

My first one was like a straight B. Nothing special about that, just a plain old B

[inland wolf]

me and my friend have refined strategies trying to beat greased palms

[stark fox]

"I'm not doing this. I refuse to fucking go through relapse's bomb timer and port hokan's bullshit like that"

[inland wolf]

we went through 4 different strats before finding one that semi works

[barren finch]

relapse's bomb timer is actually generous as, its the fuckin enemy placement that gets me 😂

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah the shirt is broken

[barren finch]

what do you MEAN HE CAN SPAWN ACROSS THE SKYWALK WITH VISIBILITY ON ME

[inland wolf]

steam friend code if you want me to try and carry you later : 903599861

[barren finch]

what do you MEAN THERES FOUR OF THEM ON XRAY

[inland wolf]

im going to go shower

[barren finch]

fuck xray floor btw all my homies hate xray floor

[stark fox]

tell us your ways, really planning on S ranking the game but I feel like I'd go insane trying to S rank hokan and relapse on my own

[smoky cedar]

relapses bombs give you like half an hour to find them and they are SO fucking easy to find. Love how Elephant gives you 10 minutes to find bombs that are god knows where. Got past that after like 9 tries where the building fucking said “ALLAHU AKBAR”

[barren finch]

LMAO YEAH

elephant bombs and their random fucking lottery RNG can get in the bin

[stark fox]

lmao I think I got lucky on elephant. But I didn't know where the bombs was first run. So TOC just goes "heads up, bombs ticking"

"WHAT FUCKING BOMB?! WHAT BOMB?"

insert me getting obliterated trying to find them

[smoky cedar]

“Entry team, bomb timer is approaching zero. Hurry up!”
Shit my pants on my first time because i couldn’t find JACK

Jack shit ^^^

[smoky cedar]

The relapse bombs have 2 GUARANTEED spawn locations

Meanwhile elephant gives you 10 mins to clean out like 9 locations

[tough spire]

The only reason Elephant is even challenging is because of having to rapidly hunt the shooters and bombs. If they nerfed it it would be boring AF.

[smoky cedar]

I shoot first restrain later when i spot a shooter. I either yell at my teammates to do their fucking job or i just walk away

[stark fox]

WHAT. I thought elephant only gives two bombs

[smoky cedar]

Two bombs, 9 possible locations

[stark fox]

if you're trying to say they can spawn more I'm actually gonna ROE myself trying to s rank that lmao

[smoky cedar]

They are randomly generated

[stark fox]

oh man. Nearly had an aneurysm at the thought of that

[frail quartz]

The ROE says nothing about dropping dead

[smoky cedar]

I hate the cafeteria stairs. There’s a spot in the floor where you can hear the beeping louder than anywhere else and then I blew up. On my next run, I cleared the upstairs first.
And there it was. The bomb that can be heard louder in the bottom floor than the second floor. Fucking hell it was on the table RIGHT above me

and then i blew up because the other bomb was GOD KNOWS where

[stark fox]

thinking about it, I feel like the deadliest maps to try getting the ruined watch on would be the Elephant, Greased Palms, Hokan, and Relapse

since you could just get fucked over trying to pull that off

[fast sage]

im trying to S elephant map but the shooters keep killing 1 civ, how can i prevent that?

[smoky cedar]

Make sure to clear all big rooms before advancing and clearing small rooms. Clear common bomb locations along the way

If you take too long, or if you interact with an active shooter, they begin a rampage

Also it’s unlikely any of the 5 of them will surrender, they’re there to kill EVERYONE. Beanbags is the best way

[fast sage]

ok

thanks , ill try rn

[tough spire]

I run around throwing CS grenades everywhere and have my stinger launcher out. Just insta-pop em whenever you see em, move on.

[smoky cedar]

pro tip don’t aim for the head. All guns except pistols will one tap to the head (G19 one taps though)

[inland wolf]

all pistols one tap to the head...

[smoky cedar]

They incapacitate. All other guns insta death

[inland wolf]

incapacitation = no S rank

[tough spire]

If you're taking the time to aim for the head with the Stinger launcher on elephant you're playing too slowly

[smoky cedar]

I don’t. I hardly use the stinger launcher

[fast sage]

Got the S

[inland wolf]

thats a visual bug

@smoky cedar are you propane

[wheat wren]

Does that mean you do?

[stone bay]

no lol

[fast sage]

Rust belt wont load for me, Im getting the modded maps have no baked world generation error and im stuck on the black screen

[inland wolf]

force close it

just reopen the game and it should work

[fast sage]

i did that

oh it loaded

[lavish crystal]

How is the performance now?

[vestal mauve]

great

[twilit brook]

Gud

[shy tulip]

Maybe Port feels extra smooth compared to the others

But I went from playing on medium with FSR on balanced (3440p) to high with FSR off

Stable FPS for the most part

with a 1660ti*

[native rune]

My guys are all yelling at a wall to surrender

There’s literally no one here

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-walls-goddamn-walls-hes-in-the-walls-hes-in-the-god-damn-walls-gif-27466705

Is there a suspect laying on the ground nearby

They kinda see through the fake dead act

[native rune]

We c2ed into a room, got one guy with the explosion and cuffed him

They’re all staring at like, the doorway

There isn’t anyone here

[shy tulip]

Are you sure

[native rune]

Clip incoming

[shy tulip]

He's approaching

The closer he gets, the faster he moves

[lofty hearth]

Fps still drop a lot when turn on flashlight in crack house map, 82 to 65 fps

[hasty oak]

oh yeah i should try that map as its notoriously bad

[toxic folio]

Yo guys who’s excited for Lady Gaga coming to Fortnite?

[native rune]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[rancid jewel]

anyone been able to get the way out west achievement?

[hushed viper]

b4 the patch note, whenever suspects starts to shoot me, the computer lags and freezes (it killed my pc IRL)

[smoky cedar]

nope

[tough spire]

Yeah whatcha need

[toxic folio]

Literally this server lmao

[rancid jewel]

so ive ran it 8 times with 5 succesful clears and i dont know what the problem is im going in with a .357, ammo, and the laser sight attachment nothing else equipped in loadout besides mirror gun and nvgs. Solo clearing rust belt with the ai team told to hold at spawn so i can get all the kills. but im still not getting the achievment any tips or do you know what i could be doing wrong?

[crude prism]

can't tell the AI to sit in spawn

no commands

[rancid jewel]

no commands at all? that's wild so they can follow me the whole match and get kills as long as I don't command them I'll get it?

[crude prism]

yeh

had the same issue, it's so cringe

[rancid jewel]

damn XD

thanks g

[native rune]

@inland wolf to be fair it’s the first time I’ve had a bug like this but after battling the teammates as they refused to stack up around four of five different times that level I was done after witnessing that

[inland wolf]

lmao

[inland wolf]

???

[potent lance]

Has anyone had problems with loading the game after the patch?

[inland wolf]

is that actually a requirement now

[inland wolf]

do you have mods downloaded

[potent lance]

Uninstalled them

[inland wolf]

do a verify integrity

[native rune]

I got way out west but I don’t remember the requirements I just looked them up one time

[potent lance]

Doing that right now

[inland wolf]

just try a few clean runs until it boots up

i had the same issue earlier

[crude prism]

I did the .357 on coyote run like 5-6 times and it didn't give it to me, because I was telling the AI to stay in spawn

Then did it with the AI following me the whole time, unlocked first try after that

[inland wolf]

you're insane to actually have used your 357

[crude prism]

why? is ez 1 taps

[inland wolf]

the sway on that thing is mad 😭

probably does ez 1 tap though

[crude prism]

the sway is indeed cancerous

[steep vale]

I have lost any faith in my ai teammates holding my perma death run down

[tribal acorn]

Is there a way to avoid certain hosts
Like, I'm sure some of you have run into that one host who does nothing but play recorded Bible rantings (and never starts a game since he's afk)

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah i joined his server once

Can’t also forget WatchMenWakeUpOnYT, always afking in the briefing room

[tribal acorn]

That's the same guy

[smoky cedar]

Met other people arguing about the Bible and WMWUOYT not being there

[random cape]

someone can help me with error in mods, "nod.io SDK was not initialized:"

[inland wolf]

you can crash his computer

is he still online?

i want to crash him again

[glass ether]

"chemlight out" x10000

[inland wolf]

we're about to crash the watchmen guy again

anyone want to assist us?

[glass ether]

fuck it we ball

[tribal acorn]

Modded servers get wild
60 suspects on this last mission

[vestal mauve]

how many of you died

[tribal acorn]

I think only 1-2

Like 2-3 of us were using shotguns

it was on Twisted Nerve so basically purely close quarters

[inland wolf]

join watchmen server

we're deploying shit tons of chemlights to cook his computer

nvm we crashed him

[tough spire]

Is Watchmen the bible person?

[inland wolf]

schizo with rants about the bible

misogynistic and accusatory

[vestal mauve]

they made Gerald Scott real

[tough spire]

That's pretty funny

[inland wolf]

talking about "You let women rule over you!"

[glass ether]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message does it look believable

[feral girder]

I just did S on Brisa cove with max suspects mod solo no AI teammates

Only took 5 tries

[tough spire]

Believable in what regard

[glass ether]

idk

[tough spire]

5-7 is smaller than a 9mm btw. So that's not believable.

[glass ether]

fuck ur right

ill change it to sharper

[feral girder]

damn no one cares about my brisa cove S

[untold rose]

We need to get VOID to ban this WatchmenWakeUpOnYT

[glass ether]

didnt he just get crashed?

[untold rose]

yup

[glass ether]

how is he up and walking already

[untold rose]

We crashed him with Chems

[tacit scaffold]

Lmfaooo, i reposted it in media

[feral girder]

WAtchmen spits facts tho if u chill and listen to him

[tacit scaffold]

Poor guy is off his meds 100%

I wish to meet him again

[tough spire]

You might be in a cult

[feral girder]

id smoke a blunt with him and debate

dont have to agree with someone to have a conversation

[tough spire]

Does he have conversations? I heard he just monologues

[tacit scaffold]

True but the hardest part is actually talking to him, half the time hes just playing his own video

And by half I mean 80%

[tough spire]

I'd enjoy destroying him in a philosophical debate based on what I've heard but it sounds like he just hides behinds recordings and monologue.

[tacit scaffold]

He responds to his youtube comments

[vestal mauve]

lol you cant debate guys like him
any time you get one over him he's either gonna double down or ignore what you said

[tough spire]

This.

You don't debate him for him. You destroy him so the people listening stop listening.

[earnest phoenix]

best way to debate him is to crash his game

[tough spire]

[earnest phoenix]

how long has he even been doing this for i think i remember running into him like once in late 2022/early 2023

[vestal mauve]

he's gotta be on disability or something, man legit does this all day and night

[lost inlet]

there a new patch?

[prime wing]

nah, its used

[tough spire]

Refurbished

[wispy mural]

Maybe watchmen is part of RON's ARG, we just don't know yet.

[prime wing]

he is gerard

[stone bay]

Did they fix the voices not changing for solo hosting or are we stuck with basic Judge still

I'll take the silence as a no.

[umbral oar]

they’re definitely both deranged

[humble mauve]

In solo you play as judge

So you sound like judge

[boreal fossil]

cant you still change character in solo

[humble mauve]

dont think so

[stone bay]

I'm talking about hosting friends only multiplayer game, before hotfix 3 you could play with any voice but after you're stuck with Judge unless you had more people in your game

[boreal fossil]

yeah looks like you cant sadly

[humble mauve]

Huh maybe it interprets it as a solo game? Idk that’s weird

[stone bay]

Hopefully they fix it soon I miss my boy Atlas when playing solo

[viscid kettle]

just curious: how's hotfix 4 working for you? opinions? benchmarks? other?

[thorny warren]

the suspects in "twisted nerve" comply so quickly since the hotfix, idk if its just me

[lofty hearth]

Equip flashlight for whole team, turn it on, drop from 100 to 65 fps

[sharp fox]

deserved 🙏🙏

kidding!!

[hardy plinth]

This is one small gripe I have with the game:

Going through the later missions for the first time I constantly just feel like going with an AR (or beanbag), because you rarely know beforehand whether enemies will have armor or not

It's annoying taking an smg or a shotgun to then see you're hardly doing any damage so you have to quit the mission, do the slow walk to the loadout manager, change to AR, walk to the mission room, ready up for mission, wait for timer, load into mission, wait for timer again and then actually play the mission

[sick raven]

thats because their nerves are twisted

[molten jay]

just bring slugs + 12 guage ?

[hardy plinth]

Slugs penetrate armor?

[molten jay]

yea

[hardy plinth]

Oooh

[molten jay]

thats their advantage, higher stopping power + more penetration

[hardy plinth]

I thought it was just more range due to no spread

[plucky lodge]

U can change the voice of the character in the locker room

[jolly verge]

All expect level 4

[hardy plinth]

Is level 4 just the guys from The Hand?

In Neon Coffin

[jolly verge]

only Quadamah wear level 4 armor on this map

[molten jay]

i suppose you could also bring a FN5.7 as well for a bit more armour penetration capability?

[hardy plinth]

Where else do they wear level 4? Maybe the guys at Elephant?

[jolly verge]

yeap, all suspect on school wear level 4

[hardy plinth]

Last mission I've done so far is at the hospital

But is it just Elephant and Quadamah then?

[jolly verge]

suspects on Clemente Hotel can also wear level 4, but not all

[sick raven]

just take FAL smh

[hardy plinth]

It's just hard to tell visually what's level 4 and what not

[lost inlet]

just assume every single one of them use lvl 4 armor and use AP rifle rounds

[hardy plinth]

That's my problem

I don't like to be locked into one most-reliable playstyle

But I realise now shotgun slugs are also effective

How well do mp7 and p90 fare against l4 amor?

[jolly verge]

bad

but they pens up to l3a

[hardy plinth]

And that's what's annoying because I like using those from time to time

It did very well on my run earlier at Mindjot

Do those actually wear armor? Or is it just visual

[lost inlet]

they all use l3a armor

[hardy plinth]

Ooh actually

Mp7 did very well then

[jolly verge]

not all

[lost inlet]

i just assume they do, dont bother come up a plan just to deal few enemies use weaker armor

[bitter mason]

Armour just never matches the model
They could visually be naked and still have armour

[hardy plinth]

Yup

Thanks Void

[gentle current]

Use JHP 5.56

[hardy plinth]

The game is just such a realistic simulation, you know

[hardy plinth]

On armour?

[bitter mason]

Love how suspect gas masks also do nothing

[hardy plinth]

Just take 9mm and blast hollowpoints into their face

[hardy plinth]

Of enemies?

[lost inlet]

if the enemies from carrier of vine have armor on their model then they have l2, if they dont then could be either unarmored or l3a

[bitter mason]

I also remember in early access thinking suspects with welding masks were immune to flashbangs
But that was probably just the dookie grenades

[bitter mason]

Yeah of enemies

[hardy plinth]

That is fucked.

[hardy plinth]

So CS gas should in theory work against every enemy then

[lost inlet]

jhp 5.56 can pen l2

[earnest phoenix]

this also applies to gas masks on suspects

[bitter mason]

Readability is screwed on so many levels haha

[bitter mason]

Nah there is just no gasmask function at all
If they don't react to gas
That's just the dodgy grenades

[lost inlet]

it doesnt work against a single enemy in lethal obsession that have a chance to spawn

[jolly verge]

actually there are one suspect that wear gas mask and immune to gas, on lethal obsesion, but his spawn with actual immunity is rng

[hardy plinth]

But there are gas masks on other maps too right? Those just don't work?

[lost inlet]

nope only lethal obsession

[bitter mason]

They got them on elephant and i think thats it

[frosty stag]

is the coastal grove image ai generated? just curious

[hardy plinth]

1.0 release btw

[bitter mason]

Probably, theres a lot of ai imagery

[frosty stag]

fair enough

[bitter mason]

If you mean in the mission select yeah the picture of the hospital is ai generated, the windows are scuffed

[lost inlet]

the enemies wear gas masks but still got stun by the gas

[bitter mason]

All the art in the streamers apartment is ai generated, theres some neon posters that are ai, family portraits in ends of the earth are also ai generated

[bitter mason]

Yeb

[proud eagle]

doesnt really sit right with me that the game barely works with so many bugs and theres already dlc on the way

[hardy plinth]

On top of that they upped the purchase price from 35 to €50

[proud eagle]

great - now I cant convince anyone else to buy the game

[bitter mason]

Rushed out for the holiday season bb

[proud eagle]

1.0 was a joke

[thorny warren]

oh the fn fal is french! thats neat

[proud eagle]

belgian

[hollow hull]

convince me plz lol i dont know wether to cause the price but i migh

[stone stump]

maybe the game isn't finished, but at least it's priced as if it were

[thorny warren]

but it stands for "Fusil Automatique Léger"...

[bitter mason]

Its got a 1.0 in it! It must be finished!

[proud eagle]

well that's because they speak french in belgium

FN herstal is a belgian company, located in

herstal, belgium

[proud eagle]

game is good

[hollow hull]

lol k

[proud eagle]

not 50 dollar good tho

[bitter mason]

Id definitely say wait for a sale or something

[proud eagle]

at least something's finished

just dunno if the pricing model is the thing you wanna go for in cases like that

[stone stump]

contrary to popular beliefs increasing the game price doesn't inherently increase profits

[proud eagle]

game is good
bugs are really frustrating but it can be a hell of a good time with some friends (so convince some friends to buy it too)
singleplayer kinda sucks ngl

[proud eagle]

meh

sales team prolly graphed it

[bitter mason]

Singleplayer is alright, its how i play mostly, its just the swat ai is still buggy and rough in some areas

[hollow hull]

I love the steam store

[echo mango]

I don't think I can recommend the game anymore after hotfix3?

it seems like the baddies have been really really nerfed. Zero tension or skill needed now

[bitter mason]

I wouldnt even recommend it how it was pre hotfix because the way the suspects acted was not how the game should play

[stone stump]

it definitely worked short time because people got tricked into buying the game :P doesn't look like the case now since the game's been on a sale recently

[hollow hull]

Ahh i dont even know wether to buy now people are confusing me lol

[echo mango]

if you are playing solo, then sure it can be a lark

[bitter mason]

Its fun, id say its worth getting if youre fine with the price, but if not get it on sale

[echo mango]

but with friends, its just a run and gun silly fest

[bitter mason]

Theres your problem, youre running and gunning

[echo mango]

S ranking 'more difficult' maps last night in 5mins

[bitter mason]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo mango]

game shouldn't be played that way but I am not going to LARP

there should be actual consequnces

[bitter mason]

The suspect ai has always been bad, still is. I dont mind them not being crazy
But thats cause id like them to do more than just shoot on sight

[earnest phoenix]

i hope 1.1 will be a huge suspect ai rework

[bitter mason]

Definitely

[hollow hull]

Im getting it

[bitter mason]

👍 enjoy

Void just need to get in their head how the suspects should behave. They seemed dead set on making them “challenging” by making them hyper aggressively and deadly which is pretty lame

[stone stump]

why have somewhat real swat experience if you can just have to shoot every suspect the second you see them

more fun for the general audience = better

[earnest phoenix]

the thing i want the most probably for the hypothetical suspect rework is to make them feel noticeably different on each map

[bitter mason]

Definitely
Make them more readable and feel more human cause rn theyre all robots

[daring vine]

guys how much is ur gaming set up

[bitter mason]

Their thought process should prioritise self preservation over killing you. Depending on the suspect killing IS more often self preservation

[stone stump]

30k money

[proud eagle]

them shooting through walls is really frustrating

[bitter mason]

Two dabloon

[proud eagle]

always perfect tracking

[stone stump]

if they do you're doing something wrong

[daring vine]

0 bc mine is coming in 6 days

[proud eagle]

wdym

[bitter mason]

Sometimes it just happens if you try to take cover when in a firefight
Or hell, just walking into a more open area

Or a suspects wandering into you then running for a flank while blasting through a wall

[stone stump]

that it just never happened to me

[proud eagle]

.

my main complaint is that my shots dont seem to even pierce most walls, and suspects' do

[stone stump]

and i s ranked every map so i think i have some experience with the game

[proud eagle]

me too ;)

[daring vine]

guys the duck was a miss click my bad

[echo mango]

s rank means nothing now lmao

[proud eagle]

what even means something anyways

game isnt a competitive experience lol

[earnest phoenix]

the only difference between ai on levels i can tell is that the guys on club never surrender by themselves

[stone stump]

i dont really care, did that right after 1.0 dropped

[echo mango]

👍

[bitter mason]

There is differences but they arent very noticeable
Minimum morale values for suspects on spawn are different on levels, aswell as i think their accuracy and reaction times slightly
But overall theres hardly any difference

[lost inlet]

things that are actually different are the guns, armor and model that the ai and thats really its

[bitter mason]

Yeah biggest difference is their loadouts
Behaviour are very similar

[crimson swallow]

is it possible to disable your camera zooming in when you aim

[neon orbit]

yes

its somewhere in the settings

''ADS zoom'' i believe

[bitter mason]

^

[lost inlet]

void want realistic game and yet they added you can "zoom" when ads

[bitter mason]

That's not the must unrealistic thing lol

[neon orbit]

I think having an option is always a good thing

[bitter mason]

It's still a game

[neon orbit]

They don't force you to zoom

[bitter mason]

I will say would be nice for point shooting/canted sight and pistols to have no zoom

[crimson swallow]

thanks

[foggy zinc]

good morning officers

[pseudo scaffold]

So did they fix stuttering?

[foggy zinc]

with the latest update? i think some people are noticing less stuttering and overall better performance

[rustic bobcat]

thank god

dx12 was not playable before the update

what about the memory thing

[summer copper]

what makes the SA-58 good cuz i tried it in the firing range and the recoil is awful

[rustic bobcat]

damage i guess and aesthetic, some people love the heavy hitting effect it has

i choose my guns purely on aesthetic

[summer copper]

i guess damage makes half sense but just click faster with a low recoil gun

[foggy zinc]

1. use a vertical grip 2. the reason why people love it is because its high power and 1-shot incap ability to take down suspects easily. It takes some skill so manage the recoil if you wanna full-auto and not be precise

[summer copper]

i use the mcx a lot because it has so little recoil i can just 4 tap a suspect easily

i never ever use full auto

[rustic bobcat]

full auto ing the sa 58 is insane

[summer copper]

it's a 1 shot incap?

[rustic bobcat]

incapacitates in 1 shot

[foggy zinc]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1878248973 according to le spreadsheet

[summer copper]

i know what it means i'm just in disbelief

[rustic bobcat]

right??

[summer copper]

okay maybe i'll test it on gas station or something

[foggy zinc]

7.62 x 51 is a big round and does not feel good for the suspects

[summer copper]

yeah that's bigger than AK rounds

big ouchie

[foggy zinc]

indeed

AK is also very good if you want some power, 7.62 x 31 in this game is as powerful as 300 BLK

[summer copper]

i prefer the way the gun feels to the stopping power of the bullets

[rustic bobcat]

test it in epstein

[summer copper]

valley?

[rustic bobcat]

ye

lots of predictable enemies

[summer copper]

i need to practice that level for S rank anyway

may as well go rip and tear through it with the SA-58

[rustic bobcat]

thatd be insane 🔥

[foggy zinc]

rip and tear is a job for the Beretta 1301 boomstick

they can't do shi if they're missing their legs amirite

[summer copper]

real

[rustic bobcat]

real

[summer copper]

i remember one time i was using the M1014 on valley

and i blasted a guy in the chest and it ripped both of his arms off

[rustic bobcat]

fuck them peds

shoot them in the bawls

[foggy zinc]

"Drop your knees!"

[rustic bobcat]

[summer copper]

yeah i cuffed amos and only after that did i point blank his head off

i had 6 officers resign and 3 go to therapy after doing that mission with zero mercy

[rustic bobcat]

understandable

[craggy yew]

Worth

[summer copper]

2 people resigned who weren't even on the team lmfao

[rustic bobcat]

"you know what boss did last mission?"

[summer copper]

word of mouth goes far "it was awful man he just executed everyone... it was a bloodbath..."

[craggy yew]

Body cams are for nerds

[rustic bobcat]

hot take, im abstaining

[summer copper]

"everyone... every suspect, every civvie... all gone... so much viscera"

[craggy yew]

No news can get out of there isn’t any

[rustic bobcat]

real

thats what happened in michigan 2009, they didnt use any bodycam and news media were told to shut up

arn is underappreciated

[foggy zinc]

ARN is cool but LVAR has cooler animations

[rustic bobcat]

or that m4 shotgun

[alpine kindle]

i am so fucking tired of dying at the last bit of hospital trying for S tier. single guy no gun in hand and suddenly i drop dead to gunfire from him. So madning😤

[thorny warren]

does anyone know i mod that would allow me to customise my whole team's loadout simulteniously? like as if they were identical?

it would save me a lot of time

[prime wing]

good idea

but sadly no way to do that

[reef thunder]

I have a question if anyone knows the answer. for the swat outfit pieces, do I need to full complete all the missions, or is soft-complete fine?

[foggy zinc]

it depends on what score you get in the end

[reef thunder]

I already have it, I full completed all the missions, but a buddy of mine wants to know if we can save time by just soft completing

[stone bay]

Played one mission of Swat 4. The cult one is definitely tense. Ended up shooting 9 and arresting 4 of them.

Also do you try to do a pacifist run?

[rustic bobcat]

you dont need a mod just use loadout feature

why is my game crashing all the time, the only mod i have is just a reticle enhancer since its so washed out 😭

[umbral oar]

save a preset and put it on all of them i guess

[hardy plinth]

Are there any good RoN youtubers?

I've watched some Civilian Use Only but some his tier lists don't make sense

[vestal mauve]

Shane Please Shut Up
Sixty Ate Whiskey

[hardy plinth]

Sometimes he just ranks a weapon high because it looks cool or low because it jams in real life

[lost inlet]

SirToasti make a an 2 hrs long video on how bad ready or not is

[foggy zinc]

sixtyatewhiskey is 100% the way to go if you wanna be more tacticool and operator

[vestal mauve]

It helps that he's actually LEO and not a milsimmer like a lot of RON tubers are

His video on "is RON copaganda" is really good

[thorny warren]

you're a freaking jenius, how did i not think of that

[prime wing]

i thought the presets were only for weapons and not clothing

maybe im stupid

[thorny warren]

you're actually right, but you can change clothing instantly so it doens't really matter

[craggy yew]

So since the beanbag shotgun got buffed for ai making them unable to kill suspects should I run multiple beanbag shotguns

[hasty oak]

im surprised they didnt think of presets for clothing

[limber steppe]

Not really, especially if you're going for different fits for all officers, an option to save clothing sets would be really useful too

[umbral oar]

i wish you could do that

[thorny warren]

i remember the good old days where you could change your loadout without having to move at the shooting range, now they put it 10 meters away for some reason

[umbral oar]

fr, too much walking 🚶‍♂️

[thorny warren]

if at least i could sprint

[fringe siren]

is the game difficulty good now without mods?

[strange bay]

Yes.

[crude prism]

probably too easy, but it's at least not turned up to 11

[hasty oak]

i want them to fix cuffing ragdolls next to walls and they start spazzing like we're in gmod

[crude prism]

[thorny warren]

you know i really wish i could have thermals on greased palms but its probably too expensive, more than night vision,

the warehouse is probably the hardest thing to clear in the entire game, more than the one on the last level in my opinion

[shadow ether]

W00 boi we got a B on relapse

Coulda been an A if my mate wouldn't get shot

[thorny warren]

lemme check my best gtade on relapse real quick

yeah its B for me too, and A on the last map, 6 S tiers on the easier maps

[umbral oar]

so is the batman looking guy in port jeffrey epstein?

[tardy tulip]

It’s too easy imo

[shadow ether]

Which ones?

[thorny warren]

B for relapse and A for the last map

[shadow ether]

And S tiers?

[thorny warren]

wish i could check directly from the menu

but from memory its gas station, 23 megabytes, the spider, a lethal obsession, elephant and maybe twisted nerve

[shadow ether]

Twisted nerve is pretty hardcore to get an S at ngl

[earnest phoenix]

can the supporter edition dlc still be redeemed if i got a key from certain sites like would it still work??

[thorny warren]

im gonna say its medium

[shadow ether]

You could try

[thorny warren]

sometimes the suspects just bug out and constantly try to shoot me through walls

it makes me wonder if they can run out of ammo

[jolly verge]

Yes, they can

[onyx axle]

are saves in a cloud or are they local?

[shadow ether]

But can they run out of backup handguns?

[crude prism]

those prison wallets run deep

[foggy zinc]

the 213 park home resident pulling out his pocket 1911 from his invisibility-cloaked back pocket

[crude prism]

I have 16 more handguns hidden on my person

(most unarmed Los Suenos resident)

[earnest phoenix]

not a big fan of risking 60$ on some random ass website only for it to not work

[prime wing]

and there will be 0 support if somethig goes wrong

[tacit gull]

If you want to buy it for the archived version i have some bad news

[earnest phoenix]

what is it

[tacit gull]

You can only get that if you purchased supporter edition in 2018

[earnest phoenix]

good to know

[frail quartz]

least*

[thorny warren]

i've been enjoying the M249 with the "sniper or not" mod

[oak copper]

ok,. so when pvp?

[thorny warren]

perhaps never

hey i died on twisted nerve and got a C, the highest i got so far without surviving

and dumb people told me you always get an F when you die

[oak edge]

Are the modded maps mostly broken because of yesterday's update? I'm having a hard time getting any to work

[umbral oar]

since i was playing public and everyone was slaughtering civvies i had an idea

when you kill enough civs there should be a point where none of them comply and always run

besides getting cornered or stunned

as the current civvie ai is pretty basic

[silk yoke]

Anybody been getting incaps on what seemed like a headshot lately?

Don't remember seeing anything like that before, but today there were 4 or 5