👮ron-discussion

[somber sail]

and the trailers dont work

@river bluff

you have to use non lethal not knock them out

if you knock, kill one of em S tier run is invalidated

• running modded invalidates it too

[neat hazel]

anyone know how to make the magnifier G33 show with the EOTECH?

[edgy axle]

i ran it with cracked but sweet AI mod and still can get S

[somber sail]

gahh they fr gotta do something about people getting achievements with modded it shouldnt count since its not vanilla

[edgy axle]

the vanilla AI is still ass tho

its better than early access for sure but its still not perfect

lotta BS happens every now n then

the mod doesnt make the AI easy

it just prevents sht like walling

and stops sudden inhumane reactions to certain events

[somber sail]

me over here doing iron man with no mods:

you just gotta play bullshit mode if ur actually tryna get s tier

[edgy axle]

💀 real

[somber sail]

just a pro tip spam gas on every corner

some map's ai are pretty easy to go against to now like valley of dolls

the only real threat is the backpack p90 kid

that mf will rush you no matter what

[edgy axle]

but nah im not gonna play a game where enemies spray walls where they dont have vision of me at all lmao

[somber sail]

that barely happens anymore

[edgy axle]

but still happens

which fucked up my no death run

[somber sail]

yeah but it barely happens, it only happens on carriers and RARELY on the hotel

i cannot S tier carriers because of the grass and the stupid fucking post processing

[edgy axle]

diff for everyone bro

[somber sail]

wym diff for everyone

[edgy axle]

if ur unlucky that bs can happen to every map u play on lmao

[gaunt hill]

Is there any button I can use that is meant to be a replacement for TMB 2 if you don't have one?

[somber sail]

everyone got the same game lol..

[edgy axle]

whatever to ur preference

just use ur keyboard if u dont got extra buttons

on ur mouse

[somber sail]

nah trust me i literally S tiered valley and a bunch of other maps after the new patch as a matter fact i got the hermit achievement but that took too fucking long (12 hours)

[gaunt hill]

I can't seen to find find it in my settings

Oh wait found It

👍

[edgy axle]

👍

[edgy axle]

lucky

[somber sail]

u want me to carry you through it 😭

ill gladly do it

[edgy axle]

ur prob US/EU server so cant

[somber sail]

whats ur region

[edgy axle]

sucks here cuz not much people own RoN in asia

[somber sail]

u can host i dont mind

[edgy axle]

i only play w my uncle

[somber sail]

it cant BE THAT BAD...

[edgy axle]

i did try playing on US server

the enemies tend to rubberband

on my side

[thorny warren]

noooo i fucking died on the hospital map and there were 2 suspects left (was playing with noswat btw)

[somber sail]

rip

[edgy axle]

cuz i cant keep up w the server host

[thorny warren]

i invested more than half an hour on this run, i feel so disappointed

[edgy axle]

unfortunate

[edgy axle]

💀 real

[somber sail]

ill send you the loadout i used with AI @edgy axle in a sec

[stark hollow]

has anyone else noticed that full head dismemberment has gone?

[normal patrol]

its when you embrace the pain is when you reach the next level

Again!

[edgy axle]

really? never noticed

[stark hollow]

yeah theres a new head model with no face if you headshot someone with 12 gauge

but no complete dismemberment

[edgy axle]

alr lemme try it on a civi holup

[vestal mauve]

heads dont explode like they do in movies

[edgy axle]

https://tenor.com/view/plotting-plottin-hehe-planning-evil-plan-gif-16790293

[somber sail]

they kinda do

[edgy axle]

dammit

[stark hollow]

pretty sure 12 gauge close range can defo do a lot of damage

nobody post liveleak please

[somber sail]

the sheer energy of a bullet above 7.62 can destroy the fuck outta a head

ESPECIALLY a shotgun

and dont even get me started with slugs

exit wounds are massive

[edgy axle]

omw to the gasstation

time to experiment

[vestal mauve]

can you get me some starburst while ur there

[edgy axle]

if only

but i got a mission to do

also yeah i shot a hoodied gunner in the gaststation w the M1014 on the head and only the hoodie got off

[somber sail]

anyone tryna do the cayote badge rn

[edgy axle]

head is still perfectly fine although bleeding

[edgy axle]

am i allowed to send a screenshot of a faceless suspect

[stark hollow]

yes but u dont have perms here so #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[edgy axle]

the head is not fully dismemeberd

[edgy axle]

im safe to send?

[stark hollow]

yes ingame stuff is fine

as long as ur not lining up civvies and execuiting them or somethign

[edgy axle]

alr 👍

[lean valve]

I bought the game on friday, just wanted to say, you guys have made an amazing game! Cant wait to see what you guys come up with

[edgy axle]

[somber sail]

i need to get the S tier achievements

time to run back all maps cuz i dont remember which ones I S tiered 😁

[vestal mauve]

really hoping we get a Quick Mission feature some day

[shy tulip]

Tis what is called putting RoN maps on a wheel and spinning to see

[past gulch]

whats the item selection style

i have it on wheel but how do i pull it up

[tough spire]

I keep going back and forth on the options and have never noticed any difference

[dusty lantern]

I have a question, should I buy ron as a gift for my friend so we could play together, or should I save my money? Is ron a good game for co-op?

[past gulch]

its good for coop singleplayer is pretty bad

[dusty lantern]

aight

[final parrot]

Guys did some one know which mod is get rid off all of the unauthorised use forced

[random sapphire]

can someone recommend me a group that takes the games serious but isn't all arm chair swat officer, like I just want a group of chill dudes that do callouts but don´t loose their mind when the convo isn't 100% about the game

[river bluff]

enemies and traps going invisible some times

[vale tangle]

most of the time the people that play like that are friends already, you’ll just have to talk to more people in here, or get your friends to buy

[vale tangle]

idk if it’s related but one time on lethal obsession i was walking down the main hallway, (no doors) and i just blew up out of nowhere, was it just an enemy ai doing it or was it a glitch you think?

[earnest comet]

Trying the private airport map and I feel like I’m about to get my ass whupped

[paper trail]

it is really cool for coop and single too

[tough spire]

Does Neon have any soft objectives?

[thorny warren]

i dont think so, i did it alr and no not as far as i remember

[strange crest]

hey guys im eligible for s rank in port hakon but the mission is not ending, any ideas why?

I did all the objectives and ordered search and secure

[tough spire]

rofl in that case I'm on the endless hunt for a weapon or civilian.

[thorny warren]

did you try the "search and secure" command?

[balmy sentinel]

Missing a piece of evidence somewhere or a soft objective

[tough spire]

Yuuup

which means I missed a closet or something somewhere that they're in

[strange crest]

there shouldn't be any soft objectives anywhere

and I ordered a search and secure, ai should get all

[balmy sentinel]

on Port?

[thorny warren]

is any objective not completed?

[strange crest]

yeah

all are completed, I can do a soft complete

[tough spire]

Yeah civilian. It's gotta be that.

[thorny warren]

its probably a weapon then

[balmy sentinel]

Did you get the action house, the container full of women, and the drug container

[strange crest]

I completed rescue all civilians already man

[strange crest]

I did a search and secure, the ai would have found the guns

[balmy sentinel]

Rescue all civs =/= soft objectives

[strange crest]

yes, those are main objectives

[tough spire]

GOT IT

[balmy sentinel]

sometimes they dont, especially if its all the way across the map

[strange crest]

there are no soft objectives on port hakon, weapons container, drugs container, missing people, bidding room, closing the doors are all main objectives

[strange crest]

okay thanks ill have a look

so I got an s rank

I accidentally pressed Y for a soft mission complete

so for some reason the game just didn't want to autocomplete the mission, very cool

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
Oh wow never seen 'em crawl under the garage doors like this

[round frigate]

wtf, sins of the father is constantly crashing on me

[native rune]

Flashbangs don’t do shit bro 🫠

Sent three bangs into the room at a suspect I can literally see and he never lowers the gun, instead he comes running to the door shooting once I show my face and he gets domed

[robust spire]

last time im gonna join this server but when will this gaem be optimized for low end computers?

[tough spire]

Holy cats. I just had a civilian corner camping the end of the hall. I could see both of his hands. Empty. I called out to him to get down a few times, started entering the room because he wouldn't, and as I entered he bended over and pulled an AK off the floor at me. I had no idea they could/can do that.

[river bluff]

People, if you can pls DM me either the most cursed or more weeb mods you know

That actually work on 1.0

[stone bay]

Interesting

[native rune]

Suspects pick up their weapons if they’re nearby

[crude prism]

It's a modern and intensive UE4 game made by a small dev team. You'd have to define "low end computers"

But the answer regardless is "not likely"

[plain blaze]

all i need is a shotgun

all other weapons are useless

[humble mauve]

the per object shadow settings came out swinging

alongside replays being disabled

[fiery lynx]

Is it me or is the game too “easy” now? Just to clarify the game is still pretty challenging, but it just feels less tense at the moment.

[tough spire]

omfg what happened to the link 😂

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[chilly hamlet]

you can definitely make more mistakes and not die

im pretty sure ive completed missions where my whole body is red and ive been hit about 10 times and have used the stop bleeding thing about 4-5 times maybe lol

[fiery lynx]

3 steps forward, 2 steps back imo. Right direction but lacking in the tense atmosphere the game is phenomenal at creating.

[chilly hamlet]

do you get a higher score with no injuries?

[fiery lynx]

Yeah.

[shy tulip]

I think only the AI getting injured matters, as in suspects/civs.

What happens to you or your team (short of dying) doesn't matter

[molten finch]

How good is the LVAR for damage output compared to other guns? i keep seeing guys eat quite a few rounds seeminlgy okay

[stone bay]

are there open statistics on the movement/protection differences between the armor types, materials, and coverage?

[crude prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

(it's also pinned in this chat by a mod if you're untrusting of random links)

[crude prism]

What ammo type are you using and where are you aiming? If using the appropriate ammo against appropriate armor/body part, you should never be needing more than 2 hits with .300blk

[inland wolf]

you're too used to the crackheads

of past, like i am

[tough spire]

Naw, it's too easy.

[inland wolf]

i mean pre ai revamp

[tough spire]

Join me in the "taser/wedges/mirror only" runs. It's very fun and doable.

[crude prism]

Unironically game is too easy

[inland wolf]

do S rank voll house

you'll eat your words

[crude prism]

I did it on launch lmao, with like 20fps

[tough spire]

My dude I did an S run with just a taser and wedges already.

[inland wolf]

it was unironically easier

[inland wolf]

ive done port completely bare bones

for hanged man

[tough spire]

That's what I mean. It's kind of a joke right now.

[inland wolf]

morale is completely fucked

[crude prism]

For suspects or the SWAT AI lul?

[plain blaze]

holy shit bro

[inland wolf]

suspects

[plain blaze]

thats sick!

[inland wolf]

they dont give up after i dump an entire mag of bean or pepper into them

i remember once on neon tomb

[crude prism]

certified skill issue (lmao)

[inland wolf]

i used a combined 7 slots of ammo

[inland wolf]

every single one hit you sped

[crude prism]

Ah well clearly you don't know [x miscellaneous weird suspect quirk that disables surrender]

If only I was joking.

[inland wolf]

it simply shouldnt be that way

[plain blaze]

whoever thinks the game is easy, do a no hit run and then come back here

[crude prism]

If you're within "melee" range of suicide bombers, they will not surrender basically no matter what

[paper trail]

how can i move subtitles to make scores visible normally? Pls ping me after answer

[inland wolf]

multiple tasers

[tough spire]

Literally creating bullshit self-imposed challenges like this is the only way it's enjoyable right now for any difficulty reasons.

[inland wolf]

multiple VKS mags

plenty of beanbags, flashbangs, CS

[plain blaze]

no hit is impossible

[tough spire]

Naw. I've done it.

[crude prism]

"no matter what"

[tough spire]

Well, not on every map. But at least some.

[plain blaze]

you could, but you would get B or C

[inland wolf]

thats completely stupid and shouldnt be a mechanic

[plain blaze]

not A

[tough spire]

Naw. Not really. My taser only runs end up being no-hit a lot.

So... S's

[true panther]

Pre-patch I saw most multiplayer matches end in failure, usually quickly and almost always because most of the players would play extremely quickly and rush the maps instead of being methodical. Now, players are still playing the same way but most matches seem to end in success even if the score isn't especially high.

[crude prism]

I agree. It's counter-intuitive and leads to lots of people having the same experience you are right now.

"something is broken"

No it's actually working properly, it's just contrary to the entire rest of the game

[static relic]

hi

[plain blaze]

loser with no name or pfp

[static relic]

that's great

[inland wolf]

now do you know what the damage multiplier is against teammates

i want to pave these stupid AI

[crude prism]

There is no damage multiplier against teammates.

Suspects however have a cap of 70 damage on players per hit. Which is the damage of 1 hit from 9mm AP

[inland wolf]

there is a reduction

[plain blaze]

if you want to make the game harder, make the suspect AI more likely to take hostages, have more suspects and have them flank more

[inland wolf]

a 5.7 that would normally 1 hit does not 1 hit

[crude prism]

There is no reduction. SWAT AI have more health than players do.

250 vs 160

[inland wolf]

yet they still die so quickly

[crude prism]

5.7 does not deal enough damage to 1 hit kill the SWAT AI with a headshot as of the current patch.

(70 damage at 3x headshot for 210 total)

[crude prism]

SWAT AI can't heal like players can

[native rune]

Another one bites the dust

[inland wolf]

not that they're just incredibly stupid and go into rooms backwards

[crude prism]

That too

It's a compounded issue lel

[inland wolf]

arent swat supposed to be extremly elite

[tough spire]

Congrats you are now overqualified to be a Void dev

[plain blaze]

ouch

[crude prism]

They're learning still. You can get people with 0 years experience lululul

[inland wolf]

what about the practice mode fellas

[crude prism]

State funded death squad that could rival delta force

[inland wolf]

i have no shit to talk about for my iron man guys cause they're actually decent

[crude prism]

(this is a bit, they're exactly the same)

[plain blaze]

best clearing loadout?

[tough spire]

gas gas gas

[plain blaze]

lethal

[inland wolf]

a saiga twelve.

[native rune]

Aim at a door

Open and clear

[plain blaze]

i cant stand when people open doors

you have to peak it first

[tough spire]

C2, then gas

[plain blaze]

then push up against it

[inland wolf]

thats a silent entry

[plain blaze]

if you open a door, the suspect will 180 and headshot you

its so loud

[native rune]

Yeah cus there’s no way someone in real life would see me turning the knob and creaking the door open, sound game logic there

[tough spire]

As they should

[plain blaze]

yeah so why do you fucking open a door

you can then use the door as cover

[true panther]

as was learned in fallujah, avoid entry through doorways(also known as standing coffins) by making other breaches. If you have to go through the door, make sure your friend Mr. grenade goes in first

[plain blaze]

fallujah is crazy

[true panther]

obviously we can't break walls so flashes and stingers are what you do for every door entry

if you want to save on nades, use the wand first to clear small rooms so you can save nades for the big ones

[plain blaze]

wand is for pussies

its TOO easy.

[inland wolf]

you were talking about silent door openings

[true panther]

you can't stealth in the game at all though right? once one suspect is alerted the game is up

[native rune]

Ive never experienced a door in real life that didn’t have a knob that was loud enough to alert everyone near it so I don’t like cheesing the game with silent opening if I’m just playing normally

[tough spire]

Falseish

[crude prism]

You can. It's not global activation

For some of the small ass maps, it can be hard to limit audibility, but ususally suspects need to hear a lot of gunfire or explosives to "activate"

[plain blaze]

its quite the opposite

[inland wolf]

@crude prism tell me about why AI randomly decide to storm through the entire map and go john wick

[crude prism]

You were too loud and made them mad

[inland wolf]

no SWAT ai

[tough spire]

It's stealth but it's more realistic stealth than we usually have in video games because our actions are realistically loud so like, once you start poppin' off nearby folks will be alerted.

If you slow down and let anxiety levels fade and creep into areas then they won't know you're about to hit them from that new angle, etc.

[cursive sky]

Does anyone know how to do the hanged man

[inland wolf]

not suspects

[molten finch]

Upper body, I just feel like it’s not acting as it should idk

[true panther]

Do the supersonic cracks of bullets alert suspects? If so, does using subsonic ammo help in this regard?

[inland wolf]

prescott and swan have stormed through the living room on voll house several times

[crude prism]

You mean when you die or like kill a civ which sets them to "automatic clearing + player kill"

[inland wolf]

resulting in many ruined S runs

[cursive sky]

Is headwear allowed on port hokan hanged man

[inland wolf]

not when i die, i tell them to search an area and they take it literally

[molten finch]

Though I use OTM 300 blk not AP, is that why?

[crude prism]

OTM is modded. Idk what they changed with the ammo type

[crude prism]

"idk"

[molten finch]

Oh I thought OTM was base, I’ll probably switch over to AP rounds then

That might be my issue

[inland wolf]

when they go, they go i cant even force them to fall in

[inland wolf]

i went overboard and just wore absolutely nothing

just dont give AI anything besides ammunition

dont pull out your long tac

[crude prism]

The AI can use whatever. You can only use the listed items. Also don't give the AI commands

[cursive sky]

anti flash googgles should be okay right/

[inland wolf]

i strictly used "Search Area", "Search and Secure", "Kick and Clear", "Open and Clear"

"Fall in"

"Move there"

its something to do with deployables

because once i got rid of their flashbangs i got the achievement

[plain blaze]

yo btw does the perma death challenge just mean iron man mode

[inland wolf]

yes

I JUST GOT SLAPPED TO DEATH BY A SUSPECT

WHILE I WAS WIELDING A 40 POUND RIOT SHIELD

[molten finch]

What achievement you hunting

Also lmao

[inland wolf]

S rank everything (again)

because multiplier doesnt count

(i did it duo pre update which is WAY harder)

[molten finch]

Oh fun

[tough spire]

Woof. Relapse giving me struggles.

Too many rooms, not enough grenades.

[cursive sky]

Are you allowed to secure guns and ziptie suspects

sometimes the AI get stuck and doesnt do it

[molten finch]

Gunfighter baby

[tough spire]

Ew, mods.

[tough spire]

What am I, a casual?

[native rune]

Nah my mom said no

Yes of course you can it’s just sometimes the ai is extremely dumb and won’t do it unless you order them to a dozen times/do it yourself

[molten finch]

I have 30 hrs 😦 i use gunfighter bc i wanted Gasmask and Nods

[inland wolf]

i am currently stomping the AI by giving them no ammo while i blast their heads off with a 12 gauge shotgun

[molten finch]

If my helmet has space for nods and i put a gasmask on and my helmet still has room for nods and isnt obstructed i should be able to ahve both even if i dont use both because it looks sick af

[native rune]

Wouldn’t looking through the NVGs be really odd and annoying when you’re wearing the glass visor of a gas mask though?

[molten finch]

I wouldnt know if never been able to use nods irl

though i have the '99 swat gas mask so maybe? but its not as "bubbled" as the stock one its a bit more flat and close to the eyes

[frail quartz]

I don't really see why it would

[native rune]

I’ve never looked through NVGs irl so I could be wrong. My assumption is that it’s like a microscope or telescope, where if I’m a little off my view gets blocked by my dang eyelashes

[tawny scroll]

idfk •~• this idea sounds weird

[inland wolf]

damage is multiplied to yourself if you teamkill

[crude prism]

If you teamkill/break ROE which makes the AI mad. You are automatically set to 1 health.

The paperdoll is always 1 hit behind, so you don't see the health update

[cursive sky]

im talking about the hanged man achievement

i didnt get it this try

[tough spire]

"the paperdoll is always 1 hit behind"

me, right now #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[cursive sky]

maybe i did something wrong

[crude prism]

"mildly injured"

Can you see the reaper out of the corner of your eye yet?

[tough spire]

I just about jumped outta my seat when Zahir ambushed me, so yes.

omfg. I need to stop paying attention to the decoration in Relapse. It keeps making me stop and roll my eyes and it's dangerous to my health.

[tough spire]

YES. Order to chaos relapse. Now to run around like a chicken with my head cut off finding all the damn civvies.

[inland wolf]

the Search and Secure in question :

[tough spire]

Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I see Cruz running towards smeone

YUP. 17/18 S run. One more to go.

[inland wolf]

we shoudl be able to blow swat heads off

[dim cairn]

[inland wolf]

nope

secure guns yes, ziptie no

i only held flashbang and taser

nothing else

[gaunt turtle]

THE STREAMER LEVEL CHAT HAS ME DYING 💀💀

[river bluff]

Devious

I see some knife shit happening in that challenge fr

[olive idol]

how good is judge at basketball?

[vestal mauve]

about as good as his flash throws

[frail quartz]

Dogwater, he can't run

[inland wolf]

nah they usually dont do anything

[tough spire]

omg. I'm on the tail end of my port hokan S run... all civvies rescued... there's gotta be like, one guy left... and I cannot find him 🥲

I am so scared. LOL

[static relic]

is it a civvie or a suspect

[undone valve]

Suspect

[static relic]

send the ai teammates to deal with it

[undone valve]

I had a similar thing on farm, but under less stressful circumstances

[stone bay]

What's your loadout?

[tough spire]

GOT HIM

omfg he was a single unarmed suspect back at the spawn point

[tough spire]

Beanbags and gas for this one. Gonna do it again with solo taser. lol

YEAH baby. Medal of Valor complete.

Just Hermit and Hanged to go.

[winged jolt]

chemlight out
monch monch cronch

[static relic]

explosive grenades when 🐟 (joke)

[fervent sierra]

tactical breaching bashing ram

[tough spire]

I just want a shield that covers my feet.

[stone bay]

ik this question is probably asked a lot but my frames are at 30-40 constantly

is there anyway to fix that

[snow patrol]

did the new update get rid of shotgun headshots decapitating suspects?

Now it keeps their head intact but has a crater in the skull

[spring knoll]

depends on the range i think

i still decapitated people but the head holes are more frequent when i blast people from further away

[chilly hamlet]

it's good to be able to decapitate people

[snow patrol]

Hm i havent been able to decapitate anybody

[spring knoll]

ngl as neat as the new gore is i do prefer the straight up decaps

[winged jolt]

roncord being violent as usual
never change, roncord, never change

eats glowstick

[static relic]

hi

[frail quartz]

I personally think someone having a huge chunk of their head removed is much more horrifying than the head simply being gone

[spring knoll]

oh yeah for sure

i think it’s just a consistency thing

like we don’t get stuff like the gas station owner’s body where the top half of the head is gone

[normal trout]

i'd like it if their brains start leaking out of their head

[spring knoll]

but that may be asking for too much lol

[stone bay]

.

[vale mason]

So me and my friend want to play modded RoN and downloaded the same mods but when I join him it kicks me and says I’m not running the same mods? The only way we can play now is on safe mode because playing normally even with no mods it says we’re playing with mods

[stuck wing]

Have you tried disabling the checksum on the options

[gaunt turtle]

id like to see that with Amos

[whole whale]

After the update on February 7th, the RON firearm MOD cannot be used🤨

[stone bay]

can someone please help me w my fps lmao

ive tried lowering settings, messing around with shit that others told me to and i cant get past this mission because ill randomly start running 15-29 fps half way through

[gaunt turtle]

specs?
i played the game at 15 fps for like 3 days until i got geforce now personally

[stone bay]

1080, ryzen 7 2700x, gigabyte b450m motherboard

[gaunt turtle]

hmm what graphics settings you using?

[stone bay]

shadow quality low, texture quality medium, PPQ high, andi aliasing high, vfx medium and view distance high

[normal trout]

turn everything down, and play windowed

gotta do what you gotta do

[spring knoll]

are object shadows and replay saving off

[normal trout]

everything looks shit, but at least i get to play

[stone bay]

yes

actually shadows were on imma try it again

[stone bay]

you’re a legend 🤣

back to 70-80

thanks guys

[normal trout]

👍

[vale mason]

The huh

[stuck wing]

Server side checksum, open options menu, scroll down to the very bottom and it should be there

It may helps

[vale mason]

What does that do

I cleared the mods, and it says I’m using mods

[stuck wing]

Making sure you and host can join despite not having same mods or none at all

[vale mason]

Yeah but I don’t have any mods whatsoever after I used the clear all mods button

[stuck wing]

Sometimes you have to manually delete the mods from the paks folder like what happened to me recently

[ruby portal]

can some one tell me why carries of vine is overly hard

1 suspect killed 3 of my guys

[tough spire]

It's just hard, my man.

[spring knoll]

iirc the AI values on that map in particular are still kinda fucked

[ruby portal]

its been 4 days of this mission i need help

[spring knoll]

gas everything.

[ruby portal]

am using pepper ball gun

[vale mason]

I think the ai needs to be tweaked, before full release it was fine but now I’m either getting shot 20 times and not dying or getting cross mapped by a dude with a magnum

[static relic]

give yourself the beanbag shotgun and force the ai to use pepperballs because for some reason they'll kill with it lmao (i don't play ready or not)

[molten finch]

I have a question, if I play Ironman mode with gunfighter and I beat it all without dying or losing an officer do I get the watch or do I have to get rid of gunfighter

[stuck wing]

Bring some wedges at least around 6 to control their flow and stopping them from giving you backshots

[ruby portal]

also the lighting sucks

i can barely see anything in the yard

and i died again

[stuck wing]

I tend to avoid the yard for the last area I would clear bcs of that

[ruby portal]

yep i need help

[tough spire]

This, and also avoiding outside as much as possible for as long as you can

[frail quartz]

Most of the players do that irl anyways

[ruby portal]

what should i give my team

[stuck wing]

From the kitchen and living room, you can go to the left side or right side but nvr go out tru the double doors at all

[ruby portal]

all non lethals?

[stuck wing]

You doing non lethal or lethal

[ruby portal]

idk whatever helps

[stuck wing]

If non lethal beanbag shotgun is actually good option now since they avoid headshotting Sus, if lethal give them any rifle works

[ruby portal]

alr thanks mate

[stuck wing]

Make them bring the wedges for you so you can have space for ammo or nades too

[vital wasp]

AI is too easy now. Feels like larping

give me the john wick AI devs idc

[static relic]

"well acthually, it's a less than lethal, so it would be better to give the ai teammates a pepperball instead" (joke) ☝️ 🤓

[ruby portal]

i cant

i cant anymore with this mission am getting mentally insane

i was shot from the spawn THE FUCKING SPAWN

[keen flicker]

this has probably been asked before but do the steam achievements not count if playing in a group? I play vanilla too no mods if that makes a difference.

[olive idol]

when will the elevator tech get to the LSPD?

[stuck wing]

You can get cosmetic unlockables from playing on multi but for the steam achievement it's solo only

[keen flicker]

ok thank you

be nice if they worked, would incentivize team play more over solo

[spring knoll]

it’s definitely weird that the game allows achievements with mods but not with multiplayer

[molten finch]

If thats the case if i beat ironman mod with gunfightrer enabled would i get the watch

[spring knoll]

yeah you should

[molten finch]

Nice

Not that im doing that anytime soon but i really like gunfighter

[tough spire]

$60 DLC next year

[chilly hamlet]

did this game sell well enough to ensure devs can support for a few years? anyone know

only bulshit games like palworld have widespread sales figures

[keen flicker]

i mean its been out for a few years now and has been improving

[chilly hamlet]

was watching SWAT the film the other night, shitty movie but some good ideas for missions

escorting a prisoner for one

hostages taken in a bank

[spring knoll]

i do wish we could escort civilians out instead of just telling them to leave

[chilly hamlet]

you can pick them up but i havent found a need to do it

the escorting one is cool, it's used in a lot of movies, sicario for example

harder to implement maybe since it's a bit different from all the current missions

[spring knoll]

tbf the game already has one big Sicario reference

[molten finch]

Im looking for a new sight than the EOtech, any reccos?

me n EO arent friends anymore

[tough spire]

lol why not

[molten finch]

Its not very accurate, sometimes ill ahve it directly aiming at someones dome piece and the shots just dont connect

you know that first long straight in rust belt? i was aiming at some sus over by that building had it on his head for the first one and it whiffed

tired of the 2 dots in the center

need sometihng new, something fresh

[chilly hamlet]

it hsa the tunnel mission which is cool af

[tough spire]

I think some guns are misaligned

[chilly hamlet]

i heard they are making sicario 3 now

[brittle sable]

run 12x for cqb surely

[molten finch]

I think the SRS is the best, gives the best sight picture and allows you to see more stuff through it while you aim and isnt so bulky

[molten finch]

Bet

[tough spire]

Why not just always use the ELCAN

[tacit scaffold]

Run iron sites for raw accuracy

[chilly hamlet]

can AI see your red dots ?

[tough spire]

not as far as I've noticed but they def see flashlights

[molten finch]

Green or White phosphor for nods? just opinions

[hearty hedge]

I prefer white, question, can I send replay files to other people and they'll be able to play it in the game?

[craggy yew]

So in the last mission judge calls TOC “the other guy” does this mean TOC is not considered a member of d platoon

[shadow fern]

white, only because some missions take a long ass time and the green gets irritating to my eyes

its always that last suspect :/

[tawny scroll]

Just finished cherryessa and car dealership on 90s swat run

i—i fucc me its relapse 😭

[uncut nacelle]

relapse is mid

[cursive sky]

has anyone finished the hanged man

could you give me some tips and pointers

i dont understand what's invalidating my run

can you kick doors?

[languid skiff]

anyone wanna play, steam name is CopperQue

[cursive sky]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921526746082336829

[languid skiff]

oop thanks

[stone bay]

• only taser and flash for you
• AI team can use any gun + only flash for them as well
• open and clear/kick and clear/clear with flash only
• no other equipment

[cursive sky]

oh

[chilly hamlet]

do you get a higher score for having no or very few injuries?

[cursive sky]

wait so if ai is using tact shield

[stone bay]

not counted. no other equipment for a reason

[cursive sky]

got it, thats what was invalidating my run

Can AI wear headwear like balistic mask?

[stone bay]

Doesn't make a difference

[cursive sky]

as long as they are alive

[chilly hamlet]

ah

[stone bay]

Yeah

It's only the equipment that's strict. They can wear whatever

Mirrorgun, Breach Shotty, Ram, Shield, Nightvision those types invalidate the run

[cursive sky]

well u have to give them something

[stone bay]

Long as you don't use em

[cursive sky]

can you use middle mouse swat ai commands

there was a YT video saying that it also invalidates your run

[gilded summit]

did way out west earlier and cheevo didnt pop feelsbadman

[ember salmon]

I just did Port Hokan did everything perfect but only got B?

[edgy axle]

how dyk u did it perfectly

[ember salmon]

no negative points

[gilded summit]

i dont think you get full points for killing suspects

[edgy axle]

loss of squad officers killed civilians i g

and yeah killing all of the suspects

[keen flicker]

but you missed something for B. either killed suspect or down officer

[gilded summit]

cuz i killed everyone and got a b

[ember salmon]

there's a difference for incapped or killed?

or arrested?

[edgy axle]

there is

[keen flicker]

higher grades if you make arrests over kills

[ember salmon]

Ahhhh

[gilded summit]

yeah the whole bring chaos to order thing really affects score

[edgy axle]

down and unconscious are 2 diff things

[ember salmon]

interesting

[edgy axle]

yes 👍

[gilded summit]

or order to chaos

lol

[ember salmon]

That makes sense

Let me not run the FAL when going for that A+ then lol

[keen flicker]

yea bean bag shotgun and gas are your friend

[edgy axle]

try not to shoot at their vulnerable parts on ur first shots, see if they give up or not

[gilded summit]

fal my beloved

[edgy axle]

real

[gilded summit]

i love tinnitus so much

[ember salmon]

Yeah I don't think I can do Hokan non-lethal with bots but I will try

[edgy axle]

just give yo squad a heavy armor steel full

[keen flicker]

nah let the bots do everything you keep the non lethal

full kit armor

[ember salmon]

stinger launcher seems like it will be good for the across map shootouts

[gilded summit]

ive found a new affinity for the pepperball gun it works pretty well actually

the VKS to be specific

[edgy axle]

if the radius hits them that is

[ember salmon]

true

[edgy axle]

what server u play on goopman

[ember salmon]

usually offline or just me and my friend

[edgy axle]

no like where do u live 💀 by continent

[ember salmon]

Oh NA

[edgy axle]

Asia US EU Oceana server?

[cursive sky]

can the AI have attachments on their guns

[edgy axle]

ah dangit

[edgy axle]

u can customize them to ur liking

[cursive sky]

I'm talking about the hanged man.

[stone bay]

Yeah as long as you follow the bulleted conditions I mentioned

[edgy axle]

oh jeebus gluck w that

also how tf u get killed by a civi? is it in the night club?

[cursive sky]

The Fool Achievment can be done by getting killed by Daniella Voll in Valley of the dolls.

[edgy axle]

ah i see

[cursive sky]

if you dont point your gun at her, and your swat AI are in another room, and dont shout compliance, she will beat you up

3-5 punches will knock you out

[edgy axle]

interesting

alr thank yous

[cursive sky]

typically she spawns in the uppermost floor, sometimes in the closet

its easiest to get when she spawns in the closest

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽🤨 soloing with mp5a2

[shadow ether]

Hey y'all
Anyone knows any good balaclava mods for officers?

Dear Void
Please add a balaclava head model in the next update
Sincerely, pretty much everyone

[uncut nacelle]

mp7

[cursive sky]

can you use middle mouse button to issue commands like search room, or kick and clear or restrain

or can you only use Z command

[shadow ether]

||Imagine debanco having enough issues to want to protect their staff with wearing face masks but a hated swat team doesn't||

[stone bay]

Yeah I don’t see why not

Besides, they do it automatically anyway if you push past a downed threat

[cursive sky]

thank you jabba

i got it

now for the hard achievements... getting that ruined developers watch

[uncut nacelle]

labo labo
labo dababo clabo gluglug guhglable lable.
Like... Gaba gaba Yaba Dasanadaba Yoobababa

[placid thicket]

anyone else have material issues on the medical centre? a lot of the glass isnt transparent for me

[river bluff]

💀

[river bluff]

It's map design (It's terrible)

[uncut nacelle]

dont skull react it, fire ass song

[spring knoll]

how so out of curiosity

[placid thicket]

nah the glass is literally chequered, its not intententional, its a missing material

[spring knoll]

i thought the hospital design (and most of the map design in general) was very strong

[low oyster]

is this game worth buying

[lean valve]

Yes

[low oyster]

is there an age requirement

[shadow ether]

If you're into tactical shooters, definitely

[shadow ether]

There is and it's well earned

[low oyster]

Whats the age requirement?

[lean valve]

Yes

[shadow ether]

Look it up on the steam page, I think 18+ at least

[lean valve]

Check out some of the gameplay on YouTube before you buy it, might not be your thing

[low oyster]

WHAT

im under 18

Can i not play it if im underage?

I mean it wont do anything to me

[spring knoll]

[low oyster]

uhm

[shadow ether]

It might
RoN has a lot of disturbing content

[low oyster]

I seen worse

[shadow ether]

I'm sorry to hear that

[lean valve]

Most of it is just blood

On a few levels theres more explicit stuff

(Strip club, underage girl photos)

Its meant to simulate what an officer might see in the field, if you dont like it you can stay away, thats one of the things I like about it, its uncensored

[river bluff]

If your PC doesn't burn out and you can tolerate bugs, sure it's the best tactical shooter SWAT themed

[humble mauve]

If you are not old enough to play the game judge jumps out of the screen and says “it’s judging time” then judges all over the place

[spring knoll]

i feel like if you’re at the age where you’re asking this question you might be too young

[river bluff]

🤯

[low oyster]

I mean can i still play the game?

[shadow ether]

You probably shouldn't

[low oyster]

Yeah but it wont affect me I seen worse and i like this typa thing

[spring knoll]

bro

[lean valve]

If you can handle it, sure

[river bluff]

No one really cares about age restriction, do whatever if you're sure you're not gonna get disturbed

[low oyster]

So like im not gonna get like banned or something?

[lean valve]

If you are mature enough and can act maturely in such scenes, go for it, if you cant handle it dont go for it for now

[river bluff]

Nope

[junior mango]

Guys does the sending hostages to the exit work?

[river bluff]

If you're above 13 at least

[lean valve]

Its not going to check your age or anything

[river bluff]

(this is for Discord ToS)

[spring knoll]

usually

[shadow ether]

If you insist, I might wanna warn you, some of that shit is disturbing for adults and I know two dudes who got really unsettled by some of the levels

[river bluff]

It kinda does, but it breaks from time to time, just like any command mechanic in the game

[spring knoll]

failure of the embed variety

[river bluff]

The underground tunnels and doll party are pretty unsettling levels if you start to pay close attention

Doll party or doll house? I dont remember the level's names lol

[molten finch]

How to control LVAR recoil better, anyone have any tips? the recoil impulse of this gun is nuts

[junior mango]

im struggling to complete this map xD

[shadow ether]

Yeah if you pay attention then half of the game is very serious shit. But I was talking about more in-your-face levels, like club neon

[river bluff]

Use semi-auto like a normal person 🗿

[lean valve]

@low oyster check for a playthrough of valley of dolls, its one of the more "disguisting" levels

[molten finch]

I love it so much but i just cant use it on full and i want to get better on it, and if i can use it on full then ill be even better with semi becasue illl know the impulse

[lean valve]

And the twisted nerve or however its named is also pretty disturbing in its own ways

[river bluff]

I did a solo S rank in it being a week old player

(but I am a shit ass 2000h arma III player so don't mind me)

[lean valve]

The atmosphere in that map is pretty dang well done

[river bluff]

It sure twisted my nerves

By that fucking granny stabbing me in the back

[shadow ether]

The specific trigger warnings for this game might take up an entire page ngl

[lean valve]

Lol

For the first time it was creepy but tbh after that its a really cool map

I want to replay and replay it

[river bluff]

Me asf:
NVG

[lean valve]

I did it with a flashlight

[spring knoll]

twisted nerve is an S tier map ngl

[river bluff]

I like NVGs

[lean valve]

Valley of dolls isnt really that creepy unless you start looking around more and get to the basement

[river bluff]

The basement is the only part that is kinda weird

The rest of it is just a normal hostage situation

[lean valve]

I am new to the game, bought it on friday, have only 8 hours, played through a handfull of missions including the tunnel one

[lean valve]

The paintings aswell are disturbing

[river bluff]

Bought it on friday aswell, S tiered 8 missions and played maybe 28h now?

[lean valve]

Jeeeez

[river bluff]

This game put me out of War Thunder

[lean valve]

Coding put me out of war thunder

Toptier is just, really not fun for tanks or planes

[river bluff]

War Thunder put me out of coding 💀

[lean valve]

[river bluff]

You are poor, you don't have an Su-27 💅

[lean valve]

I have merkava 4m

And F4E

Played it a bit before top tier, was uptiered

[river bluff]

T-90M, Su-27, F-15

(help me)

[lean valve]

I mostly code on weekdays, only game on weekends

[low oyster]

is 22 fps bad for ready or not

[low oyster]

@lean valve

[spring knoll]

yes

its bad in general

[low oyster]

how bad?

[spring knoll]

very?

pretty bad imo

i guess you could still play the gsme but it would be very unpleasant

[low oyster]

all my pc things are good except my graphics

is it still worth buying even tho its that bad?

[river bluff]

What graphics do you have?

If you dont have at least a 2050 it would be tough for how bad optimized it is

[spring knoll]

if you get an average of 22 fps

absolutely not lmao

[low oyster]

how do i check

[low oyster]

my graphics card?

[lean valve]

Well in some cases the scenes can get very intense so yes

[young swan]

Task Manager > More Details > Performance > GPU
It should say the name or series of your GPU at the top if I remember correctly

[uncut nacelle]

W question

[stone bay]

Next patch where

[slender adder]

its kinda balls that we don't have a mod that reverts the AI back to the 1.0 launch difficulty yet

[earnest phoenix]

why would you ever want that

[slender adder]

I unironically prefer that lmao

[spring knoll]

masochism

[slender adder]

true!

[foggy zinc]

i too wouldn't mind 1.0 AI

if anything they'd be less lethal compared to now cuz the current AI full sprint at you sometime and have 10x zoom contact lenses

[spring knoll]

what would you all say is the best map in the game

[river bluff]

sins of the father bots headshoting you as soon as you step into the first outter stairs through the tinted windows:

[river bluff]

actually, sins of the father or valley of the dolls

[foggy zinc]

relapse or port 100% there's so much action and it's lots of fun for CQB sometimes

elephant is another good one

[river bluff]

I like sins of the father

[foggy zinc]

that's just windows tbh, same thing happens on brisa cove

[river bluff]

positioning is key, reflex is a must

[foggy zinc]

i mean once i start getting shot at i can shoot back, too bad i get stunned to the backrooms and my target starts strafing all over the place

[river bluff]

yep

I don't like how stunning is implemented on the game, it makes it a bit clunky and unfair

[foggy zinc]

the screen effects are alright but bro could we just lay off with the suspects lasering sometimes, i swear once you start getting shot at if you don't incap them ASAP you are destined to die

not like instantly shoot them but if you miss your first few shots you are ded

[river bluff]

also
"trauma" every time you get a single shot when

I get the mechanic but it's so fucking annoying

[foggy zinc]

we already have that sort of effect though

like on the border of the screen where you see lines all over the place and it looks all twisted and fogged up

ya know

[river bluff]

yes

[foggy zinc]

all i want is more guns

and more watches ofc

[outer shore]

Add M14

[foggy zinc]

SA-58 is the closest you'll get

[outer shore]

M4a1

M16A4

[foggy zinc]

that's actually available with sniper or not i think

[outer shore]

Portable M2 Browning

M249

They should add BODYCAM option to replay mode

[stone bay]

Based idea, but how do you make an 84-pound gun portable?

[spring knoll]

who earlier was saying relapse sucks

[foggy zinc]

great question

[spring knoll]

but yeah i love port

[foggy zinc]

port is nice minus the warehouse and tower sometimes

the open crate area is fine cuz there aren't many AI out there but it means you have to move fast otherwise they're gonna nuke you outside

[stone bay]

The fact that I have to aim at the landing if I want my team to move and clear up stairs is kind of annoying, I should ideally be able to aim at the stairs.

[outer shore]

You carry it

[civic zinc]

I kinda miss the old port map

The new one has much better atmosphere and the longer distance engagements are a nice addition, but the old map was a nice layout and I don't think I ever fully explored it in early access

[outer shore]

I love big open area

So cool

[civic zinc]

Kinda annoyed that there aren't any custom maps of the early access versions of maps like port, farm and hotel which got completely reworked

[outer shore]

I prefer revamp

Add variety

[spring knoll]

i actually really like the warehouse

[civic zinc]

Would it not be nice to play both

[outer shore]

Some are big open edgy some are small dark and creepy

I hate tower it’s just so boring to go in for some reason

[spring knoll]

agree
heres old farm and old port #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[outer shore]

New port feels like call of duty mission

[spring knoll]

i loved the night atmosphere of old farm

sad it’s gone

[civic zinc]

I only played the day version of farm

But again, it was a nice layout

[outer shore]

I liked how you could either have day or night

I prefer old farm over new because new is too sceeery

[spring knoll]

nah it was initially only night then got forced into only day

i preferred it at only night because that’s what the map was designed for at first

then 1.0 released and new farm is a completely different map altogether

[outer shore]

I thought like barricaded and raid had day or night

[spring knoll]

i don’t think so?

[civic zinc]

New farm is pretty cool but it's basically a different map

[civic zinc]

I only played the February 2023 early access version but in there both versions were day time

I distinctly remember being obliterated by M14 wielding MLO operatives

Old port is probably never gonna be made and old farm didn't have much going for it, but I will hold out hope for the old hotel since it's pretty iconic in this game

[knotty ermine]

Are MLO still a thing?

I don't remember seeing any of them in 1.0

[spring siren]

whos up wonkin they willy rn

[civic zinc]

They aren't in any of the levels currently but there are still hints towards them existing in several levels

[knotty ermine]

So they'd probably exist in future missions?

[civic zinc]

In ridgeline they are directly mentioned and there are even names for their operatives/members, elsewhere they seem to have a relation to the wenderly hills hotel

I'd imagine they will return in a remake of that map

[knotty ermine]

The Veterans or the Hotel itself?

[civic zinc]

The current hotel is a completely different brand altogether

But the billboard in ridgeline specifically names the wenderly hills one

Something about a regular meeting that involves one of the members at wenderly hills hotel

The rogue secret service agents in sins of the father probably have something to do with the MLO as well

I wonder if it ties into the spider at all

[spring knoll]

isn’t wenderly hills basically clemente hotel

i noticed a couple of reused assets

[earnest phoenix]

does anyone know if theres a mod that brings back the old port

[thorny warren]

at last i have arrived at the final showdown, the last mission

[civic zinc]

Wenderly hills hotel was replaced by the Clemente hotel, but it doesn't mean the old map won't return since their only similarities are some civ models, an animation of a convulsing civ and being hotels

If the old hotel returns it'll likely be focused on the MLO, and with entirely different environmental storytelling

[thorny warren]

is the last mission the only one with medium range engagements?

[civic zinc]

Port definitely has the longest range engagements in the game yes

It's mostly medium-long range gunfights

[thorny warren]

perhaps the only level where the scope is actually useful

[outer shore]

What was old hotel again

What did it look like

[earnest phoenix]

it isnt at all

[outer shore]

I barely remember any old maps

[earnest phoenix]

it obscruts so much of your view still its just easier to use a normal sight or just laser

[river bluff]

I want night maps, more of them, and darker

[outer shore]

True

[civic zinc]

Wenderly hills, the big one from the older trailers, the lower and upper floors were split into different gamemodes and then the lower floor gamemodes were cut at some point

[outer shore]

I might have avoided that one let me check

[river bluff]

would be fun to also add a mechanic in where enemies can't see you if the enviorment around you is dark enough and they don't point at you with a flashlight

[outer shore]

Ohhh i remember that one

Hated the construction area

Always getting lost

[civic zinc]

I like large maps

[thorny warren]

for those who completed the last mission, was it harder than the previous ones? can i do it?

[earnest phoenix]

""fun"" its an essential mechanic thats just missing for no reason

[civic zinc]

It's harder but as long as you keep your wits about you you'll do fine

Move with your team ai carefully, and keep track of where you've been

[spring knoll]

you started from the ground floor with this huge grand open lobby which i miss. the hotel hallways also reminded me more of Ides of March - they felt a little less luxurious than Sins atm

[compact sequoia]

guys how do you think they can make the pvp work

not saying regular pvp isn't fun or anything but imagine if they can implement surrender into it

[outer shore]

Sins is so scary because the random horror music

If they replaced it with doom music I’d be running and gunning

[river bluff]

[sour furnace]

this 100 percent

sins had me gettin the nervous shits tryna clear it out, fuckin not even Twisted Nerve was that scary to me.

[ivory kiln]

the music is creepy

[south flame]

Is there any info on how many arrests do you need in each mission to get an A? It just doesn't make any sense to me trying to get A when you might as well go for S if you need to arrest half the suspects to get an A

[sour furnace]

I don't know specifically, but it

it's point based.

You get a set ammount per incapacitation, kill, and arrest.

[south flame]

Yeah ik but how many arrests do you need if you have everything else perfect with no penalties

[ivory kiln]

you get 35 for arrest 5 for incap and no points for killing someone

[sour furnace]

Just math it from there

[south flame]

Then where is info how many points does it require for A

For example I got 2635 and B on buy cheap, buy twice with 4 arrests out of 16 suspects

I would understand couple of arrests needed for A+ but if you need that many arrests just for A, might as well go non lethal for S

[craggy yew]

Why does suspects pulling a Kurt Cobain disqualify you from getting an S

Like how do I stop him while he’s behind a wall

[sour furnace]

If you play perfectly, get all evidence, yadda yadda, but you kill everyone, depending on the suspect count you can expect a B or lower.

[sour furnace]

Not the fact that he died, just the fact that you missed out on that last bit of 35 points you needed.

The rank system is kinda annoying in that regard to me, it doesn't consider anything about the level, the situations you get into, how you deal with them, it just looks at "Did you hit this point total? No? No S for you". It's impossible to play in an immersive and authentic way and get an S.

[south flame]

Yeah but everything perfectly with 25% of arrests still gets me B, that's my point that A rank doesn't make sense when you can go non lethal and get S instead. Before 1.0 you didn't need to do so many arrests for A unless arrestign was part of the objective if I remember correctly

I would understand not getting A for unjustified kill

[sour furnace]

^ see my above statement

[shy tulip]

There are ways to get a higher score without touching less than lethal mains, like using flashbangs or stingers, tasers, aiming for the armor with JHP, etc

[sour furnace]

true, but I still find it difficult to avoid some of the jankier suspect and SWAT AI moments screwing my runs.

[lone pelican]

S is about perfection

The aim is never to kill people: killing people isn’t perfect

[sour furnace]

Naturally

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-thats-deep-cody-ko-wade-the-real-bros-of-simi-valley-gif-16476225

[south flame]

I have no problem with S rank, I get it, no penalties and no deaths. It's the A rank that doesn't make sense to me

[sour furnace]

Just wish the AI made it less of a fuckin full round of shotgun therapy to get em to surrender 💀

I mean damn

[lone pelican]

Get good smh

[sour furnace]

real

[lone pelican]

Carriers of the vine is actually so easy to S rank

[ivory kiln]

damn really?

so killing bad guys is wrong?

[sour furnace]

Never said S is difficult, shit is just tedious and unfun.

[south flame]

Nah, he's right. I shot bunch of beanbags into bomb vest guy, AI shot him with hundreds of pepperballs, thzen tazer, melee attacks, flashbangs, stingers. Nothing got him to surrender

[sour furnace]

*to me

[craggy yew]

Bomb vest guys built different

[lone pelican]

Why the actual fuck can’t I say suicidal bomber

[south flame]

Idk, I had same problem and just went with bomb vest guy

[craggy yew]

Like what they be eating in Yemen to tank a non lethal assault

[uncut nacelle]

alr ai still got issues with shooting trough objects without seeing u

[lone pelican]

Ambrosia

[sour furnace]

I mean I look at the IO Hitman games, Dishonored, other games like em, and however you complete the task, there are probably hundreds of ways to complete a mission with an S rank. Compared to RoN as is, where the only way to S rank is to play in 1-2 very specific ways that go contrary to how the suspect AI is designed.

[south flame]

Bomb vest guy was reason I gave up on trying to get an S on Neon Tomb. I spent way to many hours getting it ruined by them

[lone pelican]

This is a police game. Killing people isn’t perfect.

[lone pelican]

Took me a few tries

[shy tulip]

pretty sure Dishonored has a literal rating system for not killing + not being detected at all

[sour furnace]

Yes my friend, I know the whole tagline. But if they want us to non-lethal every single mission, they need to design their AI less like the OG R6 Siege terrorists, and more like actual people.

[shy tulip]

You can just play a bit lethal and still get good ending

[lone pelican]

Or you could just understand that S is supposed to be hard

[sour furnace]

Hard? Sure. Tedious? No.

That's shitty game design.

Look at FromSoftware.

I played the shit out of the Souls franchise, that shit is hard, but it is still incredibly fun, cuz you can do it in any way you want.

[lone pelican]

How is it tedious

[sour furnace]

What, RoN?

[lone pelican]

S rank is a specific challenge, it’s not how ur supposed to play the game

[shy tulip]

The reality pretty much is that if you want a perfect score, you should be ready to play to perfect standards. You should see SWAT 4s system (which they tried to copy originally,) you couldn't even get shot to get an S. Neither could your AI

The variety comes in how you want to approach the S. You don't have to pick a beanbag, you don't have to pick pepper, you don't have to rely on gas. You have plenty of kit like flashbangs, stingers, gas, pepper spray, tasers, two pepper guns, the beanbag, or using lethal weapons but aiming for the armor.

I think my Brisa run with the old AI I got an A because I used the nova and just pumped em in the armor

[lone pelican]

Also the approach can always be different

[olive idol]

it's weird how Eli and Swan fit into the balaclava mod like a glove

[river bluff]

How in the hell are we supposed to do that with broken maps, AI and unreliable systems
I lost a gifted S rank myself for mere luck

Sins of the father is a great example besides being my fav map concept

[stone bay]

Wher can i post memes?

[uncut nacelle]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

fuck this imma just redo it

wasted fkin 20mims to search for nothing

8 more levels left to S tier

[foggy pike]

Hey everyone, do you know why somes of my games are not existing in the RoN replay folder ?

I've played a lot of game and some of them are not in the replay option

[stone bay]

They just disabled the replay option by default so maybe that’s why it suddenly stopped for@you

[foggy pike]

Thanks ! do you know if it's temp or do i need to activated myself ?

[stone bay]

Just hit enable in the general settings

If it is disabled.

[foggy pike]

as simple as that hahah thanks a lot !

[stone bay]

✅

[bitter mason]

mighta just been SEF since that what I played but only the player had to go without being hit, your ai can be shot but not killed

[zinc lava]

am i the only one who cant change their weapon in loadout?

[sour furnace]

mannn I didn't think my PC was that bad, but this is the only game where I can't even get a stable 60fps on entirely low settings.

Shit is scuffed 😭

[uncut nacelle]

buy new pc

ez, shrimple.

[stone bay]

Dlss or FSR didn’t help?

[sour furnace]

Nadda

[stone bay]

Yah the game tbh just has bad performance all around tho

I gotta 2080ti i9 32 gigs of ram

I have to play medium low to get 90 fps and even then it dips sometimes during engagement

[white goblet]

check that your drivers are updated, disable replay system
other than that, if you have less than 16gb of ram you should upgrade that. that's the cheapest upgrade i can think of

[prime wing]

Yeah those specs are pretty descent

Or at least they should be for ron

[stone bay]

Yeah it runs fine

Just compared to other games that are higher fidelity

[prime wing]

There are a lot of settings that cannot be adjusted right now

[stone bay]

Makes sense

[prime wing]

Once we can change those settings

Performance should improve

[sour furnace]

I do believe I have 16 gigs of ram, but yeah my PC is a bit dinky compared to the ideal.

2070 and an i3-10105f

[stone bay]

Definitely bottle necked from the cpu

[molten finch]

i have an i7-4790, and a GTX 1060 6gb and i cant see past 30fps almost ever

(its an old system dont judge me 😦 )

[stone bay]

Ive come across people saying it runs better on medium settings or so than entirely low, game's bugged af

[sour furnace]

huh, strange. I mean it's able to hit decent FPS, it just keeps dropping out to 30 or even 10 for split seconds. Real choppy.

[stone bay]

Just embracing the suck, does stutter a lot but i can run it pretty fine on epic settings, purposesfully run it on medium tho because the grain sucks

[uncut nacelle]

i7 + gtx 1060

wah

[molten finch]

Well that was rude

[uncut nacelle]

i aint shitting your specs

its just crazy to see i7 + gtx1060

[tough spire]

Leave the dinosaur alone

[uncut nacelle]

[ruby portal]

am still dying on carries of the vine WITH a beanbag shotgun full armor steel all around with gas and still dying

this ai is ass i need help

i get one shotted again

i cant fucking take it anymore

[uncut nacelle]

less lethal wpns looks like they got buffed or some, its kinda harder to make them surrender, wasted 1,5 mags for 1 suspect today

[balmy sentinel]

Even with the suspects using G3’s and M14’s your helmet will absorb 1 headshot for you, and with heavy armor youre not getting 1 tapped.

Its possible to get 2 tapped but thats only happened to me once since the patch and ive ran through basically every map with meme loadouts.

Tips:
Have your AI run pepperball guns for nonlethal runs, if they run beanbags they can accidentally kill suspects, also pepperballs act as mini gas grenades.

for the outdoor sections, especially the ones with a lot of traffic let the AI go first with the “move and clear” command

Use plentiful CS gas.

[timid yew]

Am i the only one who can't change guns?

[balmy sentinel]

one of your mods is broken

[timid yew]

🤯

[balmy sentinel]

iirc its gunfighter that does it

bc of the new hotfix

[timid yew]

Got it. Alright I'll try to fix it. Thanks man :)

[ruby portal]

thank you

[molten totem]

Anyone notice taser working less effectively/not at all when you're not the host as opposed to hosting?

[fluid temple]

sorry for the late reply but a bit sad

[viscid yarrow]

i died at the end of twisted nerve and got a c rank but all my guys moods improved did they jus tnot like me :(

[stone bay]

they are glad you took point for the first time

[viscid yarrow]

wdym

[winter orbit]

Is FISA the FBI replacement, or a seperate agency, because the description for the BCM still references the FBI
Is that just an oversight

[ivory kiln]

FISA is FBI

USIA is CIA

[oak edge]

Hi guys, Is there a way to turn off the in game prompts i.e kick the door or a dead suspect on the ground with the red text?

found out what I was looking for

[ruby portal]

I DID IT I FUCKING DID IT AND GOT A S ON IT TO

[zinc mulch]

Anyone else having an issue with 23 Megabytes a Second? I do everything by the books but the highest the rank will go for me is A+, I can't even get an S and I'm wondering if thats a bug or what

[viscid yarrow]

you need to be nonlethal for S

[shadow ether]

Any tips for solo A rank on Voll mansion?

[slender sinew]

Whats a decent time for 2 man S rank port? Just curious because a friend and I did it but took a while. Probably longer than needed.

[shadow ether]

There's one spot that has like five thousand enemies downstairs and absolutely none of them respect flashbangs

And that's assuming I don't get lit up through the window while walking downstairs

[slender sinew]

Copious amounts of gas can help with area control or stuns. Thats how Id done the S for it, but itd definitely help with the A you want I think.

[zinc mulch]

I did full non lethal with zero kills

But the game still registered it as an A+ only

[viscid yarrow]

u sure your teammates didnt accidentally blast someone

[crude prism]

pics of score pls

[viscid yarrow]

this

[keen flicker]

work top down. stingers and gas grenades. use bean bag shotgun instead of lethal. more suspects you arrest better score.

[viscid yarrow]

any tips on ides of march?

like wheres the better spawn

[thorny warren]

i just did a run on "the spider" with noswat and only got A+ this time because the beanbag shotgun was too effective against one suspect

it also gave ma a chance to find out how to use the shift key and i noticed the messages on the computer are pretty dared

anyway, now im stuck on the last one, i came a pretty long way though

[balmy sentinel]

missed a piece of evidence or a soft objective.

[thorny warren]

its fun to keep them alive, im disappointed i cant see it when they are interogated

[balmy sentinel]

beanbags will kill on a headshot

[thorny warren]

i know, and like 3 shots at the body

[crude prism]

U need 32 hits to knock someone out to the body lol

[thorny warren]

but it happened fast and i was very near completion so i didn't wanna risk and aim

when a suspect runs away i just let it go as he will eventually be stuck in a corner

because im a door wedge maniac

[viscid yarrow]

did u report the guys pc

[earnest phoenix]

the dlc was the supporter edition

[keen flicker]

games been out for a few years now, was cheaper back then

[wheat wren]

What map is Ides of March again?

[viscid yarrow]

the uh

[wheat wren]

I don’t pay attention to the actual mission names

[viscid yarrow]

fancy apartments with the red suits

[wheat wren]

Ohh

[viscid yarrow]

and you gotta find like 2 people and a sniper

and arrest 3 baddies

[wheat wren]

Oh, I hate that one

It’s doable though

[viscid yarrow]

its so annoying

[wheat wren]

I’m probably gonna run a pistol next time I play it

I honestly enjoy running only pistols though

[viscid yarrow]

ga416 my beloved

[keen flicker]

its kinda fun blastin them with the pepper balls

[viscid yarrow]

except they do the same damage as actual pepper flecks

[thorny warren]

on yt i saw someone showing a mod that lets you use the grenade launcher thats actually in the game files.
not the modified one, the explosive one

and suspect weapons too but they are not designed to be used by the player so its quite odd

[earnest phoenix]

sniper or not

[shadow fern]

Neon and dealership done. Carriers of the vine is next