👮ron-discussion

[tough spire]

I do not miss laptop gaming for that reason 🥲

[bright valley]

it's a pie

[stone bay]

I rock a laptop cause I move a lot/travel a lot

[tough spire]

Well, back when I was in college and the world was frozen outside my apartment and me and the cats would use it as a space heater. That was nice.

[stone bay]

I would not hesitate to build a PC if I know I’ll stay permanently

[dapper kestrel]

laptop gaming is alright as long as you clean and cool it

[stone bay]

George M subtitles gone

[dapper kestrel]

me when gpu temps never go above 60

[foggy zinc]

speaking of gpu temps

[tough spire]

The subtitles live on in us dorks who immortalized them

[stone bay]

[dapper kestrel]

my cats know well enough to stay the tf away from my setup

[stone bay]

No cooling pad so average temp always 90

[foggy zinc]

i tried installing the body cam reshade everyone loves and the second i applied it my gpu temp went from 43 to 59C in like 10 seconds

[dapper kestrel]

they also have heaters elsewhere

[tough spire]

Weird flex. I liked snuggling with my cats.

Except for my horrible allergies to said cats but that's beside the point.

[bright valley]

Are they? Might have to turn the subs back on.

[knotty ferry]

are you saying that you have cats yet your allergic to them?

[stone bay]

Yeah I don’t see it now. Some subtitles aren’t fixed still, but the George M one is gone

[bright valley]

Ah darn.

[tough spire]

Not anymore, but yes. Now I live with two but they aren't mine.

[knotty ferry]

oh

[tough spire]

Is there even a single cat in RoN?

[knotty ferry]

no

but thats a good thing imo

[tough spire]

Like even on a photograph or image?

[knotty ferry]

maybe

isnt there a catgirl on the 23mb/s map?

close enough

[tough spire]

That doesn't count

They should add cats.

[stone bay]

Animals ain’t existing in dystopian RoN

[daring lily]

human trafficking cats

[stone bay]

We all saw what happened to that dog in the diner

[tough spire]

Except a dead dog, apparently.

[bright valley]

Michael Williams supposedly has a cat named Nekomaru

No pictures of it though

[tough spire]

Sounds like he made it up for internet points

[knotty ferry]

he has a bowl for it though

[bright valley]

Really committed to the bit

[stone bay]

As if his streamer name “MilkyToes” isn’t enough

[stone bay]

Doubt. He is the cat

You can feel it in his aura

The scratch posts, litterbox was for him

[bright valley]

Is his aura that he's literally wearing cat ear headphones? lol

[tough spire]

Ohhhh. It's for him. It's a kink thing. Got it.

[bright valley]

Ah yes. Occam's razor.

[stone bay]

His brother is a furry. I’m not surprised if he, himself acts like a cat

[tough spire]

That's actually a good point

[bright valley]

I don't think that's a furry thing.

[stone bay]

Nah it’s not. Am just saying given that his brother is a furry, Michael has another thing going for himself

Which is that he acts like a cat; hence, why he has a scratch post and litterbox but no actual cat

[tough spire]

Also depends on the furry but we're getting way off RoN topic for that worm bucket.

[bright valley]

This is all much more plausible of a theory than him just liking cats like many people on the internet.

Good shit, RoNcord.

[tough spire]

It sounds extremely RoN-lore plausible.

[brittle sable]

lethal obsession is so anxiety inducing

[tough spire]

Is that the cabin in the woods?

[brittle sable]

yep

[tough spire]

Yesssss

[bright valley]

It's all the creaking wood ambience, really feels like the suspects could be anywhere.

[tough spire]

I have a pattern down that I can clear it quickly and with minor complications but I never feel safe doing it.

[stone bay]

I like the idea of D Platoon tryng to traverse that area

[brittle sable]

dude if i ever had to do something like that not ingame im saying fuck that and grabbing a bomb bot

[bright valley]

If you like the idea, have we got a game for you

[stone bay]

Given that you need to trek or hike that and it’s very isolated in a mountainous/forest region

[bright valley]

Ah now I understand lol

[stone bay]

Like how tf did they get the bearcat all the way there

Unless they trekked it

[stone bay]

And given that the cabin you’re going into had just bombed and killed 5 cops then fled to that cabin, you best bring frag grenades or something

[bright valley]

Maybe fast rope somewhere the trees are clear?

[knotty ferry]

cabin bombing 5 cops is crazy

[stone bay]

[knotty ferry]

i mean the cabin do got some kills though

[bright valley]

Didn't he start a fire as bait and just shoot the five cops?

[stone bay]

Surely they have choppers right…? Right..?

[knotty ferry]

with all those traps

[bright valley]

If I'm remembering correctly you can hear one overhead while you're outside even though I don't think you can see one.

[brittle sable]

mf better shot than my ai

[stone bay]

Like he burned down some cars or burned an area to force stop cops then he starts gunning them down?

[brittle sable]

no, he literally set a car on fire outside the station and opened fire when they went outside to check it

[stone bay]

I’ll never hear that cause my game loads forever and my initial frames when I load in the map is like >20 fps

[stone bay]

Ahh yeah I remember now

[devout swift]

Anyone know how to fix the fact my mirrorgun literally doesn't work? It just displays a pixelated screen from the gun itself, rather than the ui screen

[brittle sable]

what, its picture in picture rather than fullscreen? its in game settings

[stone bay]

Why does the briefing of “The Spider” (Brixley Talent Agency) saying they seized Mindjot drives prior, leading them to discover that talent agency, but the missions you do doesn’t even involve Mindjot yet. It’s Gas Station, 23 MBps, then Twisted Nerve. Unless they got the drives from Michael’s apartment

[stone bay]

Switch it to fullscreen

[devout swift]

It's literally just on the gun, not even in the screen

lot me check out your suggestions 1s

[brittle sable]

in the canonical order, mindjot happens before spider
they just changed it for difficulty balancing afaik

[devout swift]

fixed, thanks guys

[knotty ferry]

so then why is brisa cove like the fourth or fifth map

[stone bay]

Makes sense

[knotty ferry]

arguably THE hardest map in the game

[bright valley]

It gets worse lol

[stone bay]

I can’t complain about mission difficulties, having experienced the early access farm Raid gamemode

There will nothing be more difficult than facing the MLO

[tough spire]

Brisa is far from the hardest... just wait

[knotty ferry]

ive played thru all the maps except the newer ones

other than the postal service

[brittle sable]

disagree
i mean its up there, but more likely its just an escalation of difficulty after they introduce traps in lethal

[tough spire]

Brisa is a cakewalk once you know the basics.

[bright valley]

A secret mission vs MLO would have been a huge payoff for all the ARG shenanigans, but that'd be a hell of a resource investment for something few would see.

[daring lily]

whats that game

[stone bay]

I’m just surprised people are saying Ides of March is more difficult when Sins of the Father exists

It’s a bigger and scarier Brisa Cove

[brittle sable]

like the only hard part about barisa imo is managing flanks when you clear out hotel rooms

[knotty ferry]

i think its hard for me because i tend to take a non-lethal to facilitate the objective

[stone bay]

What’s ARG

[bright valley]

Nah, Sins of the Father is a bigger map, sure, but most of its rooms are easier to clear, and it's way easier to prevent flanks with fewer wedges.

[brittle sable]

#🪹the-sepulchre-arg , theres a video about it released like yesterday

[tough spire]

Might I point you to my guide, then. 😇

[brittle sable]

i found ides 10x easier than sins
sins makes me wanna die with the open lobby

[knotty ferry]

which map is that again?

[brittle sable]

clementine hotel

[knotty ferry]

ohhh

havent played that yet

thats the replacement of the old hotel map right

[stone bay]

Fair fair.

[stone bay]

I don’t get it. What am I missing..?

[brittle sable]

its an ARG (alternate reality game), its just some extra worldbuilding stuff for ready or not
ill dm you a link to that vid in a sec i just gotta find it

[stone bay]

Ayt

[bright valley]

Alternate Reality Game. Basically a narrative and puzzle-solving thing that extends outside the game.

[stone bay]

Damn I haven’t even heard of that until now

[bright valley]

It kind of ended abruptly and isn't active anymore, but there was some back-and-forth between the players and VOID for a while.

[tough spire]

This whole Discord is an ARG for the main game. We're all going to be characters in 2.0.

How you treat us now will determine our place in the story.

You, yes you, player, reading this now.

[bright valley]

Still don't know what the fuck R!I is KEY means.

[tough spire]

Well R! is a factorial of R, times I

[bright valley]

Don't try to solve it, you are so late for that lol

[daring lily]

average ready or not experience (has nothing to do with swatting people)

[tough spire]

So RxQxPxOxNxMxLxKxJxIxHxGxFxExDxCxBxA... multiplied by I = KEY. Time to get the algebra on.

[shy tulip]

This is a no math zone

[daring lily]

police raiding a house ❌
police raiding a data center with cp ☑️

the second mission is lit fr it feels like the transformers fbi raid scene

[tough spire]

People like you murdered Hippasus.

[shy tulip]

Good

[tough spire]

Modding in pythagorean intensifies

[paper topaz]

suspects have rendered buttcheeks in relapse

had one whose close glitched out and flashed me

[bright valley]

rendered buttcheeks

this is the next generation of gaming

[shy tulip]

Gerard moment

[paper topaz]

the real question is are the suspect's teeth rendered in

[eternal steppe]

that one legitimately gets me the most scared

the debris makes it impossible to see a suspect before they gun you down sometimes

[shy tulip]

Cities 2 moment

[vague sparrow]

Im suprised we haven't gotten an MP5k mod yet. Id love to run across maps with the MP5k the "baby" version of the MP5

[prime mural]

That's an mp9 but mp5 form

[open harness]

can you tell the civillians to get down without alerting the other enemies in the room?

[sour furnace]

dudeeee Sixty's ARG vid is an actual masterpiece

Void needs to let whoever was on it start cooking in the narrative department

[stone bay]

so can AI still see thru tear gas

is that fixed yet

[shy tulip]

They will make it that players can see through in the future

[stone bay]

how long does it take to do that bruh

its a transparency change

[bright valley]

It's nice having information about the ARG in a digestible video format, I just wish SixtyAteWhiskey had listed his sources in the video or its description. It was a pretty sustained community effort to piece together what we have on it, and I don't know how much of that video was original research by Sixty himself.

[shy tulip]

It is not a big priority compared to things like performance and other big fixes

[brittle sable]

Does taser deployment on runners count as unauthorized use of force?

[shy tulip]

Don't think so

[bright valley]

LTL deployment seems fine versus anyone armed or anyone unarmed but non-compliant. If you shouted at them in audible range and they're still running, you're probably good to use the taser.

[shy tulip]

I don't think using LTLS against them would be an issue

[brittle sable]

kewl

[modest bear]

Does the therapy mechanic only exist to force you to use different officers every so often?

[shy tulip]

That's part of it. I'm very confident it mainly exists just to serve as another reason to take people alive rather than gun everyone down

[craggy yew]

What be counting as unauthorized use of force

Cause I swear the game just hands them out when it feels like it

Didn’t know that not knowing if an enemy is behind a wall so I gas the room is bad

[tough spire]

Gassing the room isn't unauthorized ever, musta been something else

[craggy yew]

I didn’t shoot the girl

I mean how innocent is anybody on Valley of the dolls

[shy tulip]

You may have physically hit them with it

It does bounce

Besides that it shouldn't have penalized

[craggy yew]

Okay that makes sense

Slinging a gas container at somebody’s head sounds about right to cause some kind of violation

She probably deserved it being on valley of the dolls

[shy tulip]

If I remember correctly some of the voicelines for characters are like "I'm just a kid man I work here"

something like that

[bright valley]

That line sounds like the young bellhop from Checkin' In who ended up making it into Sins of the Father.

Yeah, found it, same one who has an arrest line that goes "I think one of the guys had a shotgun, I heard them going around shooting at those gang members" even though it doesn't make any sense in the new context lol

[mental fable]

Will the roadmap be released end of the year ?

[dreamy garden]

Does years of experience actually do something? or is it like mental health/skill related

As it should be

[bright valley]

If it does, I haven't noticed and it isn't communicated in-game anywhere.

[dreamy garden]

Yeah everything about statistics with commander mode seem scuffed in every way

[thorn knot]

Does anyone have tips for getting S ranks on the later levels? Suspect AI is questionably lethal (fully automatic, fully controlled, rifle fire through walls hitting a moving target with no misses), while SWAT AI is a struggle (won't go through doors, trap you in hallways, don't follow orders, take nonsense paths to objectives).

I basically just leave them in spawn because they're more of a liability than anything

[waxen grove]

Hmm :/ sooo does void have a dedicated community manager?

[thorn knot]

I think its @gaunt gale but I might be wrong

If so, sorry for the @

[bright valley]

Nah, he doesn't do it anymore.

[thorn knot]

Oh, someone else does it now?

[bright valley]

Honestly? I have no idea.

[thorn knot]

Yeah lol, communication with VOID isn't exactly forthcoming

[shy tulip]

I wonder who possibly could be doing their CM role within Void

[thorn knot]

idk maybe they'll tell us in two weeks when we might hear from them next

:^)

@waxen grove found him for ya

[waxen grove]

Im only wondering because the announcement was worded as if the community manager was also a dev

[prime wing]

I would not say there has ever been a "single person" who is responsible for letters.

A lot of that stuff has to go through several people.

[shy tulip]

It has all been according to the will of Oppenheimer

[prime wing]

Making sure the information is accurate and there is no fuck ups, unsupported promises all of that. One person doing it would be probably scary

releasing a void letter is like a government statement at this point, every word matters 💀

[bright valley]

I think that's the nature of sparse, spaced-out communication towards a wide audience. Ever seen a game or game update get hyped to death 'cause only a little bit of information gets out and people run wild with speculation that causes expectations to exceed what ultimately gets delivered?

[bold sky]

thats overglorifying the little they communicated lol

[prime wing]

the reason being, previous false promises.

And trying not to do that again

[bright valley]

As long as the first patch doesn't get called Ready or Not 2.0, VOID's probably in the clear for the most part lol.

[mild rune]

does the station doc actually exist? I found his voice files, but idk where he is in the game

[urban walrus]

He is usually at the back in the briefing room

[sour palm]

does anyone know when the game goes on sale

[urban walrus]

No ones really knows aside from the devs themselves, but your best bet would be Spring Sale (note that this is still just a guess)

[sour palm]

ok thank you

[mild rune]

also, are the original SWAT members still in the game?

[bright valley]

In Practice, yeah.

[mild rune]

I see. asking because I'm trying to swap some of the male heads out with female ones, and its next to impossible to figure out who any of the other officers are in the files

[bright valley]

Ah, fun.

[narrow token]

guys, what is the diffrence between 2 nightvision in game?

[lost inlet]

none only cosmetic

[narrow token]

ok

[round frigate]

i wonder if giving night vision to bots grand any benefits or can they just see in the dark

[spiral crypt]

In terms of what increases the suspect "Stress" stat, what increases it the least? Does pepperspray or melee increase it at all for example?

[white goblet]

when did this happen

nah i believe you i'm just wondering when this hotfix happened

[stone bay]

Its unpacking and repacking the game, welcome to Unreal Engine updates.

[bitter mason]

Its not a 56gb update its just the game is now 56gb

[stone stump]

#💬general-discussion message

[open harness]

Do suspects react to doors being opened?

[spiral crypt]

yep

[open harness]

hm, i usually just die after opening a door so this is new

[spiral crypt]

it makes a sound that they can hear. unless you peek the door, and then walk into it. then it makes no sound, but obviously if they see that they will still react

[open harness]

Do they just get into high alert mode, or they will also get into investigating?

[spiral crypt]

they don't really "investigate" from what i've seen, they are either calm, alert, or shooting at you.

generally the gun is raised and they will look in the direction from what ive seen

[brittle sable]

aight im gonna do a dumb
pistol only, solo, no nades ironman run
when do i die

[bitter mason]

Im not sure if they investigate sounds but they do like to randomly wander, often times right into you and your team

[wise meteor]

Usually works to peek door and shift move (slowly) and they don't get alerted (in case they don't have direct line of sight on the door). But we still talk about RoN AI that can decide to do anything. It is just my experience being shield bro as I can't really open doors anyway, only peek them.

[ivory kiln]

do suspects who are incapacited get back up

cuz it happened to me

[stone bay]

Yes, they can play dead

Always zip tie suspects even if they show as dead

[ivory kiln]

i do that

but 1 suspect wasn't tied up

and he got back up

he did surrender though

[craggy yew]

Good example is c3 when it hits a suspects it’ll mark them as dead but they’ll get up like 2 seconds later

[stone stump]

incapacitated? no. "dead"? yes

[sudden trench]

performance fix when
40fps cant be real

[near schooner]

chemlight kim

[bright valley]

It's not an easy life getting summoned every time someone pushes C.

or replies to a message from 5 hours ago

[near schooner]

im sorry 💔 forgive my sillyness

[viral bone]

https://youtu.be/L7Wo3X0LiXs?si=hjxJoc9-29ybfpIX

[craggy yew]

I see your issue

You weren’t using the beanbag shotgun

[timber ice]

Are there only 2 maps? Cause after 23 mbs at a time I didnt unlock the next map. Thought it might have to be related to my ranking but I got an A+

[spiral crypt]

What's the point of the lockpick gun, I know it's supposed to be quiet, but I've never alerted anyone by picking it normally

[craggy yew]

Why are you lock picking real gamers breach every door

[ivory kiln]

I dropped a guy only for him to get back up

[spiral crypt]

S ranks by being "stealth" lol

[stone bay]

And that’s your cue to send rounds downrange. The threat doesn’t stop til they’re dead.

[shy heath]

quick question : Gas mask is still useless to swat AI right? Like they can do in their full potential when they are in gas?

another question is: what does the metal icon next to accessories do? like 5 the icon and stuff

[abstract fable]

Is there a way to launch the game without mods? I don’t wanna have to uninstall everything every time I go for achievements

[shy heath]

there is option to launch in safe mode

[stone stump]

mods don't disable achievements

[livid notch]

mods do not interfere with achievments - I've done mine with "No Godlike AI"

achievements can be earned in Commander/Practice mode

[abstract fable]

They invalidate the scores, which means you can’t get the S rating achievements

Right?

[stone stump]

no

[abstract fable]

Wow, but I get a big fat message

[stone stump]

the only message you're getting is "mods detected. unofficial score" something

[abstract fable]

Ohh

Ok so this changes things thx

[livid notch]

yes, but it doesnt restrict achievments and unlockables

[fallow sage]

it will be bad if they restricted it

[abstract fable]

Cheers chief

[livid notch]

brisa cove or neon with vanila AI - that would be pain in the ass

[fallow sage]

Ides of March vanilla AI

[abstract fable]

Sadly I’ve done it

It was hell

[fallow sage]

neon on vanilla AI is doable

*but not on Commander Mode *

[abstract fable]

I just wedge all the doors

[livid notch]

how many attempts?

[abstract fable]

Too many

[abstract fable]

They headshot through the walls

[livid notch]

excessive use of wedges seems like the only way to make this mission doable

yet you can still get wallbanged out of the blue

[abstract fable]

Yeah literally you just do room by room slowly peeking

But you gotta get 3 arrests to

So you can’t just blast your way through

[livid notch]

not to mentioned ramped number of traps

[abstract fable]

Yep, and sometimes the ai doesn’t even get flashed

And you just die

[fallow sage]

yeah it feels like the flashbang doesn't do anything

so I just spam CS and hope for the best

[shy heath]

can someone knows tell me these 2 questions answers?

[livid notch]

did not check it, but I think it would be simple to test

[shy heath]

well i did test the first one, seems like it but im asking if they are in their full potential?

and also 2nd question is not something i can test

i think 2nd questions answer was popping up when the first time you opened the game at 1.0 but i didnt really think it wass that important i forgot it now

[vague sparrow]

Jesus the 911 calls in the briefing give me PTSD....

[frosty perch]

The game looks great 👍

[livid notch]

911 calls from Elephats or Neon gave me a chills

last time I experienced something like this in Spec Ops The Line

[frosty perch]

Anyone know where I can find a cool promo video of the game so I can send it to my friends

[maiden wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdJI3_8zG7A

thats a good one

[midnight goblet]

Difference between M600V flashlight and WM?

[vital prism]

M600v is brighter that’s all I know

[midnight goblet]

Ok ty

[hoary summit]

mod.io not working right now? always getting "subscription failed"

[earnest wolf]

mod.io is cursed

you could try clearing all your mod.io data and then using nexus mods

[uneven eagle]

when subscribing to mods from mod io do you have to drag the files to paks or can you keep them in mod io

[analog void]

how do I get the FSIA black and ranger green G3s?

I want to use a Patagonia L9 mod to replace it

[amber dock]

Unless you have supporter, there's no way.

[analog void]

that blows I can't buy support now

[mighty elbow]

whats that??

[tranquil swallow]

💀

[foggy zinc]

WM is on the left side rather than the M600 which is on the right.

[near schooner]

honestly, mod.io is pretty shitty. nexus is peak profesionalism

( just an opinion )

oh yeah, did you manage to do that mission btw? or are you still trying?

[crystal sierra]

Of what kind of material are Voll House guards made of? They are legit immute to beanbags either legs or arms, lol

[tough spire]

Wdym immune

[crystal sierra]

Playing solo ( with bot teammates ), running 2 papperguns + 2 beanbegs + papper gun on myself, they legit never surrender, always want to fight no matter what xD

[tough spire]

If you pop 'em in the chest with a beanbag they're def. stunned, do you mean they aren't surrendering to you after?

[crystal sierra]

They wear armors so, shooting them in the chest with pappergun ( VKS ) is kind of not an option, they can move freely, while if you shoot them in the hand or leg they will react / cancel their shooting animation to cover their mouth and run away to try to escape from gas.

[tough spire]

You have to either headshot or wall spray with VKS on a lot of targets, yeah.

[crystal sierra]

You can't break glasses or walls with that gun, so can't spray them trough wall sadly. Trying rn with Beanbag on myself since map is kind of close quarter overall.

[tough spire]

I bring a single Five Seven mag with me for shooting out windows for that reason.

[crystal sierra]

Tbh, never had to use pistols pretty much on my playtroughs overall, my standard practice is to reload my gun after clearing every room / before entering to next one. So never had a chance to use pistols overall. Tho, i had to empty all of sidearm mags on AI to prevent them from accidentaly shooting suspects. There is one ,,bug" tho with that. If they lose all of their ammo during gunfight, they will switch to empty sidearm anyways lol. I wish i had a option ,,Check magazine" or ,,Reload" for the team overall.

[tough spire]

Yuuuuup I hear you.

Yeah bring a single five-seven mag JHP for dedicated window shooting, it will change your life.

[ivory kiln]

where was senator fremont in sins of the father

[earnest wolf]

I just finished Relapse a second ago 🎉

took me so many attempts lol

[near schooner]

im so proud

[earnest wolf]

hah thanks

ignore the fact that i accidentally killed a civilian. still passed

[crystal sierra]

Now do S run on relapse :X

[earnest wolf]

I literally can't imagine how that's even possible

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much rush trough map until you clear both bombs, then go slow, and remember “Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast” 😉

[earnest wolf]

yeah that was my strat in the end. Bust through to the first bomb, then get to the skybridge and seal behind with wedges, get the second bomb then start clearing the second building

still lost 3 guys x(

[crystal sierra]

From what i see, you are playing with AI teammates, what i can suggest is to watch for stackup positions, split / auto is not always good option. if you are not entirely sure there is suspect inside, stack them up to the side of the door where is knob, then order either C2 or classic open and flash. If you go with RAM there is high chance for bots being stuck with eachother and get killed.

Flash launcher also works good since most of the time bot will prepare himself to immidetly launch that inside the room after opening the door.

[earnest wolf]

cheers dude I'll bear that in mind - I do tend to do split stacks often

[idle pond]

Before 1.0, Civilians used to run up to you when there aren't many of them left. Is this true or I was dreaming? I don't remember much

[crystal sierra]

They are running even now sometimes if Bring order to chaos is completed @idle pond

[winged hornet]

Never noticed it before; but they’ll run if enough stuff happens; not towards you either from what I’ve seen just around

[crystal sierra]

I had situation today where civilian appeared in front of me out of nowere on post office, couldn't find him anywahere

[idle pond]

They seems to either stay in their place or run away from me now. Maybe it was a mod or something

[crystal sierra]

I'm using that popular SWAT AI overhaul mod, yeah, might be the case.

[slate bear]

what do yall recommend as the best assault rifle

[livid notch]

all of them have pretty comparable performance - with the exception of SA-58 if you want raw stopping power

[ivory kiln]

what are the pros and cons of sa 58

[mighty elbow]

there are ZERO downsides

[crystal sierra]

One shot machine overall, just click heads 😄

[barren finch]

pros - it's very killing
cons - none it's the best at killing

[mighty elbow]

best ar in the game i will die on this hill and i might be a small bit biased

[livid notch]

Pros:

• power
  Cons:
• 20 bullets in mag
• high recoil
• high risk of overpenetration

So it's one of the best guns i game

even with JHP rounds it punch through armour very reliably

[slate bear]

ok thanks

[ivory kiln]

sry i prefer 416

[frail quartz]

Additional con:
The 7.62x51 looses it's one-shot capability on maps with higher suspect HP

[ivory kiln]

i love 416

416 my beloved

[mighty elbow]

go AP

[mighty elbow]

it never fails me i can normally get 2 3 or 4 hit kills

[ivory kiln]

does the sa 58 look cool though

[frail quartz]

it has the retro asthetic which I'm not personally after but I know plenty of others enjoy

[mighty elbow]

yes if you like the FN FAL you will like the SA 58

[ivory kiln]

fal looks nice

but it's ugly compared to 416

also do you guys give the same gun to your cops or different guns

[frail quartz]

Anyways, if you wanna peak behind the curtain there's a spreadsheet in the pinned messages that compares all of the weapon recoil and round damage/penetration

[frail quartz]

Different guns since it makes it more interesting/makes them easier to tell apart

[ivory kiln]

same

makes them unique

[slate bear]

im missing twink judge from pre ready or not

[frail quartz]

I used to give them a LVAR, F90, ARWC, and G36C, but my "underfunded PD using hand-me-down equipment" loadout right now is two MK18s, a GA416, and a G36C

[ivory kiln]

my guys get sr 16 mcx lvar and mk 16

i have the 416

[prime mural]

Full sa58 for that minmax squad

[pearl oak]

is there anybody that likes the Officer stress-level mechanic?

if so, why?

[tough spire]

This is the way

[craggy yew]

I’m more of a SR 16 guy

More of a connoisseur

[mighty elbow]

YES

[tough spire]

Team 762

[ivory kiln]

will hostages with vests blow up in neon tomb

[mighty elbow]

only if you shoot them i think

[honest mica]

if you hit the vest or dont kill them quick enough they'll blow up

try and aim for the head if you cant hit them just pray

[honest mica]

i think it would make sense if your officers were a little better at shooting people. my officers always die first gunfight they get in

[bright valley]

Just to be clear, the question regarded the hostages with vests.

[honest mica]

oh that might be a problem.... lol

[ivory kiln]

do they do anything special

or are they there to punish trigger happy players

[pearl oak]

I was mirroring under a door when a guy burst through it nearly simultaneously and my team stood there cluelessly while I got destroyed. Needless to say, I was pissed.

[dense quest]

Nah they're just there to fuck you over if you shoot them (or I guess if a suspect shoots them next to you)

[ivory kiln]

that's dissapointing

[honest mica]

lmfao sounds like me

[ivory kiln]

i thought that they might detonate under certain conditions

[honest mica]

i always jam doors before i even attempt going through them, that way they dont kick a door into my face

[ivory kiln]

i don't use wedges

[honest mica]

i love wedges

[ivory kiln]

i use speed surprise and violence of action

[honest mica]

i use the 90 slots mod as well though so kinda cheating lol

i block every door and take it one at a time

[dense quest]

I don't use extra slot mods and yet I always run 3 wedges

I value them more than nades

[honest mica]

hell yes

i think i bring like 15-20 with me each match

[pearl oak]

I like that, I'm going to steal that technique

[honest mica]

it helps a lot when playing solo so youre not overwhelmed with entrances

[dense quest]

Or be more stealthy, ai won't rush into doors if they don't hear you

[ivory kiln]

nah bro be agressive

they can't kick in the door if you do it first

[honest mica]

lmfao

[dense quest]

Oh trust me I have a mod on that let's me get S while killing everyone, I'm aggressive

But smart aggressive, because 0.1s suspect reaction times

[ivory kiln]

switching to ceramic was an amazing decision

i'm so fast

[tough spire]

Can't kick open doors into you if there are no doors left to open. Hashtag C2 gang

[honest mica]

bro i had this sprint mod on that you could move fast af with but since 1.0 came out it doesnt work

[bright valley]

[suspect stress intensifies]

[honest mica]

honestly all the game was missing was faster movement

and i had a faster interaction time mod on as well but yanno

[tough spire]

My current run is no wedges, all loud guns, but gas masks and mirror okay

[honest mica]

i just started using gas i bring like 30

[bright valley]

running gas mask just because funny muffled officer voice

"MMPH MMPH MMMMMPHMMPH"
"what?"
BANG BANG BANG

[tough spire]

I run gas mask so frequently I forget there are "normal" voices

[honest mica]

i just run in the room like WACHU CHOKIN ON??? THIS DIIIICK

u gotta use the tony soprano voice lines too thats the OG

[craggy yew]

gas is too good to not wear a gas mask

i mean ballistic mask isn't useful on later missions

[tough spire]

Gas is just objectively the best utility in the game

[craggy yew]

gas gang

[tough spire]

It's so bizarre they have the SCAR-L in this.

I would love a reasoning behind the arsenal but I know I won't get it

[mighty elbow]

but due to the fact that there is no real reason behind the arsenal we can justify any gun we want into the game

[tough spire]

Good point. I'd like one (1) M2010 plz and thx 🙏

[mighty elbow]

i want a bolter and i'll never stop hoping one somehow gets in game

[echo mango]

it would be fun to take over an NPC once dead while playing mp with friends

[mighty elbow]

that sounds awesome

[echo mango]

playing rn and I died early on (did a double take at a civ and didn't spot the baddie)

so now I have to watch my squad mates play the game and all I can hear is the rain hitting my corpse

[mighty elbow]

imagen if you could take over a armed suspect and be able to watch your friends you could play like the predator and hunt them down after dying

[silk junco]

there will be pvp

[tough spire]

god I hope not

[silk junco]

it will happen im sorry

[echo mango]

I will refuse to play it

can't think of anything worse tbh

[tough spire]

That will be the fastest way to kill this game

[mighty elbow]

i would like to give it a shot it would be better than cod but then again everything now is better than cod

[echo mango]

funny when with friends but tedious when playing against others

and I dont have 10 friends sooo

[tough spire]

Rebalancing for PvP means fucking up PvE balancing, a thing that is already extremely delicate in this game

[frail quartz]

PvP and PvE will be completely separate modes

[tough spire]

Doesn't matter

[mighty elbow]

ooooh yeah

[echo mango]

it would be like playing competitive CS:S or CS:GO interesting at first but then its all about the win rather than enjoying the game

[frail quartz]

Changes made to PvP will not effect PvE in the slightest

[tough spire]

Uhh any changes to core mechanics will affect both unless they play completely differently

[mighty elbow]

hopefully they don't do what destiny 2 does where sometimes if a gun is broken in pvp it gets nerfed in pve or vice versa

[echo mango]

l4d mp was vs when a player died right?

that was fun

[livid notch]

i do not see any reason to give PvP mode for RoN

[frail quartz]

I don't understand why you're assuming that any changes to the gameplay made for PvP will be carried over to the normal game

[tough spire]

I'm not assuming anything, this is how game design works.

[livid notch]

time spent on making playable PvP is time not spent for polishing and new content for PvE

not the best trade-off if you ask me

[frail quartz]

I mean, yeah, nothing's saying they'll do this

[tough spire]

That, too

[frail quartz]

They still have A LOT to do in terms of the normal game

[livid notch]

not to mention that RoN initally was PvP and it was a total disaster - you can see some gameplays on YT

[frail quartz]

Trying to balance PvP and trying to balance PvE simultaneously is just a disaster waiting to happen

[mighty elbow]

if they can fully finish fixing pve maybe they could try slowly doing pvp btu tha would be a long time

[frail quartz]

I still feel like there's tons that still needs to be done with PvE in general

[tough spire]

They would have to completely remake every map to have PvE and PvP modes to keep balance appropriate, or sacrifice one mode over the other.

[frail quartz]

Using the vanilla maps for PvP is just idiotic if you ask me

[livid notch]

also - there is a lot of competition in PvP shooters

sooooo if you want to listen how some 10-years old is screaming to mic how he will bang your momma because you rekt him - there are options already

[frail quartz]

Even if they did use a singleplayer map, who's saying that modifications made to one for PvP has to be carried over to PvE

[white goblet]

Those early backers who paid $120 don't know that all of their money specifically went towards that van with a wanted sign for Amos Voll in LA.

[livid notch]

so that would mean building sepreate game from the scratch

[frail quartz]

There's still tons of assets and mechanics you'd be able to carry over, so no

[tough spire]

Yuuuuup. You either have two seperate builds for PvP and PvE or they will adversely affect each other.

[frail quartz]

That's what I've been saying this whole time

[crude prism]

PvP would also need some kind of anti-cheat, which uh, we're still 100% P2P servers lol

[livid notch]

imagine this free-lean cheesing all the time

[crude prism]

Yeah... the camera definitely needs to be fixed for certain lean positions

It's both OP and also misleading for players who think they're lower or taller than they actually appear because of the desync between 1p camera and 3p model

[white goblet]

free lean "abuse" is sometimes the only way to counter vanilla 1.0 ai effectively

[pearl oak]

it would play exactly like the old Rainbow Six Vegas 2 multiplayer, if anyone remembers how slow those characters moved

[craggy yew]

guys im at the killer statue do i risk it

do i risk ruining my valley of the dolls run

[crude prism]

Skill issue

[tough spire]

How's free lean "abuse"

[livid notch]

blind fire, blind fire everywhere - not to mention that player outside of the cover was in very high disadvatage

taking other weapons that LMGs were pointless as far as I recall

[white goblet]

i have it in quotes because i don't think it's being exploited or abused by players but some people do

[dense quest]

Presumably cuz the ai don't see you sometimes or have a hard time hitting you, smth like that

[crude prism]

Idk how to do it, but i know you can stick your camera through walls, and also you can 'ghost' by leaning where the AI can't actually see you but you can shoot them

[tough spire]

Oh okay. Using it to clip is weird. But in general it's a valid mechanic and not always safe

[dense quest]

You can do that with mirror gun anyway

As in ghosting them

[crude prism]

Yeah but that's intended, vs disconnecting the 1p camera from the 3p model

You're supposed to be able to stick the mirror gun around corners/over cover and stuff

[pearl oak]

the Desert Eagle was a 1-shot kill and so were shotguns, and yeah the only reason you would use an LMG was to blind fire all 100 rounds hoping for luck lol

[dense quest]

Yeah but just driving the point home that it isn't very exploitative since you can do it with a mirror gun anyway

Also it happens often that you can see the arm/leg/gun of the ai and they don't see you

[livid notch]

also Vegas 2 on highest difficulty in single/coop modes also got this bs john wick behavior of enemies

[crude prism]

But you can't kill people with the mirror gun. By ghosting with the advanced lean you can combat them and they cannot fight back 🤷

[dense quest]

Oh you can shoot?

Yeah that changes things I thought for some reason you wouldn't be able to

[tough spire]

Man wtf are you talking about. I was doing no-armor pistol only runs Terrorist Hunt on hardest in R6V2 cos that was the only challenge 😂

[livid notch]

well maybe because I'm one of those filthy casuals, thats why 😄

[crude prism]

R6V2 bullet spread while aimed firing is super aids, rest in piss shitty game mechanics

(good game tho ❤️ )

[tough spire]

You could blindfire accurately just by timing the animated weapon wiggle. It was beautiful.

[echo mango]

???

[pearl oak]

I bet you weren't doing that on LVU Library with 50 terrorists

[tough spire]

I did the entire game that way

Max enemy count, every single map

[craggy yew]

damn

[tough spire]

It really wasn't that hard

The game mechanics were so absurdly cheesable

[pearl oak]

doing Library solo like that was the one that was that hard because there was 50 and you have nobody to watch your back

[tough spire]

I'm trying to remember which one gave me the most trouble and I think it was one with a casino that you did a rooftop entry on.

[pearl oak]

na that one wasn't hard, I promise you it was Library

it's possible to beat it like that, but it's going to take you 30+ tries

several hours

[hidden cedar]

anyone wanna play ron

[mighty elbow]

i'm down

[tough spire]

I'm playing right now

[hidden cedar]

im kinda bad cuz im new but wtv

[mighty elbow]

you playing seriously or chill? want me to use non lethal or lethal?

[hidden cedar]

chill n having fun

[mighty elbow]

want to use in game mic or a server call?

[hidden cedar]

server

[mighty elbow]

which one?

[hidden cedar]

wtv

[mighty elbow]

want to use us16

[hidden cedar]

sure

[tough spire]

maaaaan AI shooting civilians shouldn't count against your stress

[crude prism]

💀

[frail quartz]

A civilian being killed by a suspect's crossfire probably shouldn't be as intense as if they died from something completely preventable, but that seems a bit extreme

[mighty elbow]

try turning up user volume

[crude prism]

suspects strafing around and executing eachother while you're trying to S is a good time

[tough spire]

I'm pretty sure it was one of mine that did it 😬

[crude prism]

"one suspect behind a civilian"

'roger, one suspect behind soft cover'

[tough spire]

"Awright, two fer one special"

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message SIGH

[stone bay]

How many mags is too many?

[mighty elbow]

there's no such thing as too many

[tough spire]

Depends on how trigger happy you are. I bring a lot when going subs cos full auto, but only a few for rifles cos single firing = win.

[bright valley]

Your honor, the suspect was using the civilian as a human shield, I had no choice but to full auto center mass.

[craggy yew]

guys so i feel better are incapacitated civs still alive

i want these piece of shit school shooters to achieve nothing

[stone bay]

Yes

[craggy yew]

thank god

[tough spire]

Wait... are you shooting the civvies so that the bad guys can't do it first?

[mighty elbow]

i need to beat my record

[craggy yew]

hell no

[brittle sentinel]

Thats one way to do itm

Also does anyone have a guide on how to mod characters in RoN, i want to mod Trepang2 characters into the game

[mighty elbow]

me and a bunch of guys actually in a random lobby decided to do a full massacre on the school map which i do not feel proud of it

[craggy yew]

i just want these school shooters to know that they killed nobody

[craggy yew]

school shooters are subhuman

[brittle sentinel]

Anyone?

[stone bay]

I installed a mod that bumps my available slots up to 90. Carrying 30-45 AP mags seems a bit much.

[stark hollow]

dont say things like this

[ruby bloom]

[stark hollow]

rule 2

[ruby bloom]

hmaf eamting pompcorn

[mighty elbow]

no that seems fine

[mighty elbow]

wdym?

[prime wing]

You are so funny

Truly peak comedy right here

[mighty elbow]

i'm not trying to say it was funny its one of the rare times i feel i went to far

[wanton plank]

is the game crashing alot for anyone else?

ever since the 1.0 hotfix 2 ive been crashing almost every loading screen

crashing

[craggy yew]

me when im in a where the hell am i going contest and my opponent is rust belt

[fresh oxide]

lmao get mthw’d @severe portal

@severe portal did you get mthw’d?

i hope eventually there’s a day where the weapons manufacturing house raid doesn’t hit harder than the school shooting tbh

I want a fully automatic taser minigun. That seems useful to swat

In the meth house, there should be at least one blue meth bag

[pale cradle]

How do you disable the replay system?

[woeful egret]

Combo and skinny Pete rare NPC spawns

That's what I need

[fresh oxide]

Bro yesssss

Void stole fast food from us. We better get Los Pollos Hermanos as a replacement

[woeful egret]

I bought maybe a week after Adam update never got to play fast food 😦

Seemed like a great warmup map tho

Surely there's a mod that just reimplements it

[craggy yew]

you'll love 23 megabytes a second

okay hypothetically could there be beanbag slug rounds

and the good lord said "let that one left behind with the saw lay down heat on d platoon" and my s rank run was runied

damn these mind jolt security got hands

[fresh oxide]

I was typing “no, because that would just be a normal slug”, and then thought are beanbag rounds already slugs? Now my brain hurts thinking about it. Screw you

[tough spire]

Hear me out: a slug, but like, a literal slug.

[lost inlet]

[craggy yew]

can suspects commit friendly fire?

im doing a non lethal valley of the dolls and this security guy is just laid out on the floor and i didnt even shoot at him with my beanbag shotgun

[fresh oxide]

Yes. Yes they can. And it’s so fucking annoying

[jolly mural]

They can also accidentally shoot themselves cuz of the bullet bounce

[craggy yew]

no way this fucking goober ricochet'd himself on a staircase

[dreamy garden]

Whats the best officer trait lineup?
atm I've got
Negotiator
Paramedic
Armorer
Nutritionist

I can get moral officer and SBAGS if I want

[amber hearth]

anyone commissioned a gun mod for RON? how much is the market price

[thorn prairie]

what happened to the MLO storyline? I remember the whole rogue fake swat teams being a huge thing early on but it just seemed to disappear from the game's story and never get mentioned again

[craggy yew]

i eated them

soz

i lowkey think d platoon be snacking mid mission

like on ends of the earth one member definetly snuck to the fridge and chugged the orange juice while the rest of d platoon was securing soft objectives and other evidence

[tawny scroll]

i already finished comm mode but mine was nutritionist, sbags, veteran, armorer, and negotiator. YOU NEED MORE HEALTH MORE DEFENSE AND ASSERTION OF DOMINANCE MY G

[dreamy garden]

I really just don't want any of the AI to die atp

I can eat every shot with a shield and stab vest but the AI is too stupid

[brittle sable]

theyd die 50% less if they just looked at open breaches when they did open and clear moves

[dreamy garden]

Or actually gave a shit about the suspect pulling a gun after surrendering and point blank executing them

[brittle sable]

do yours not shoot them? mine pop fake surrenders before they pull.

[tawny scroll]

3 assault rifles, 1 SMG, and shotgun. My SMG guy gets the shield so he can deploy his primary faster when switching from shield since it's small. The shotgunner guy is my SMG and usually goes with smg guy. For the other two with assault rifles, one can have a mirror gun and the other can either be another breacher or grenadier. For my loadout, i run mirror gun just in case the other dies. just saiyan; this setup helped my team survive with em being content or at least stressed

[dreamy garden]

Quite literally never

they completely ignore given up suspects even after I command them 6 times to arrest thm

[eager olive]

@tawny scroll you just need to start leaning more and use an actual rifle caliber

[brittle sable]

thats usually cause they take contact. they dont arrest people if theyve just taken contact from someone

[errant canyon]

sun brotha

[eager olive]

i love how the ready or not community just collectively decided to smoke voll for being a terrible person

[viscid bane]

anyone else getting terrible performance lately

[bright valley]

Can't imagine why.

[fresh oxide]

I noticed this

[viscid bane]

used to always be at or near 122 (max) and now ill get 60 or less

[fresh oxide]

I was getting like 25 and occasionally 60 when i used to get 60

[tawny scroll]

a foive foive siccs

[fresh oxide]

@tawny scroll not good. not good

[tawny scroll]

🤨😧

7.62 🤨

[fresh oxide]

idk the bot told you not to say something

Idk what it is that was so unbelievably offensive, that it completely blocked it off

[viscid bane]

why is performance so bad now smh Squad performs better

[tawny scroll]

🤨🤨🤨 bot sensitive

[brittle sable]

if ur gpu is better than cpu turn up your graphics and it might help, did for me

[viscid bane]

theyre at max already

GPU utilization is way higher compared to cpu as well\

[shrewd oriole]

Classic 1.0 issue

[viscid bane]

not fair smh

[tough spire]

My GPU utilization is through the roof but no drops yet...

Cherryssa
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[brittle sable]

are you able to wire multiple doors then deto them all at once

[tough spire]

Yes, it rules.

[craggy yew]

me when d platoon blows the door off my recently bought apartment (the furry streamer they want is one floor above me)

[wispy mural]

(It's over for Judge)

[spiral crypt]

why is the Scan command sometimes grayed out?

[brittle sable]

if the other side of the door is obstructed, you cant use scan

[spiral crypt]

wdym obstructed, like there's a person in the way?

[brittle sable]

person, wall

if you cant walk to the other side of the door then you cant scan it

[loud pawn]

guys what are we supposed to do of the does the bring order to chaos objective

[brittle sable]

Kill or restrain compliant all enemies

[loud pawn]

im on twisted nerve and its a hell of a map

[vernal needle]

Does finishing a mission in multiplayer count in our single player progress? Elephant is a tough mission to beat with AI

[spice python]

this game takes too long to load now, and my friends can't even start the game.

[brittle sable]

#💻tech-support

[cinder urchin]

honestly bro

devs need to optimizes this game better

before the update everything ran so smooth

now i cant even play without stuttering

[stone bay]

I don’t think so, no

[willow vector]

quick question, i've been trying to S rank neon tomb and my only real issue with the map is getting the bomb vest guys to go compliant.

sometimes they comply quick, and sometimes they tank the entire pepper ball mag of the AI which forces them to whip out their pistol and incapacitate them. yes sidearm mags are set to 0.

any tips on dealing with them more consistently? thanks

[drifting bolt]

Taser

[brittle sable]

if youre going non lethal the dynamic to how you clear kinda changes
i usually spend some time figuring out a solution for each individual enemy or group
its all a combination, bang, tase, bash
you cant just roll in like you would lethal but with a pepperball and expect it to work all the time

[bright valley]

It can be a little clunky if you're trying to go LTL with the AI SWAT as well 'cause they don't really understand it the way human players do.

[earnest wolf]

Doing my first run of hide and seek... these guys aren't messing around

It's all about stealing their pistol ammo for the less lethal runs

[willow vector]

appreciate the responses so far, but i don't think they're the answers i were hoping for.

i'd like to think i have a good understanding of clearing rooms LTL with AI. admittedly not the best and not without fault at times but consistent enough, considering what i'm working with and what i'm dealing with. it's really just those bomb vest guys that feel inconsistent in my runs.

i'll just keep banging my head against this wall till it works for now. thank you!

[brittle sable]

the dynamic doesnt really change with bomb vest no bomb vest

[earnest wolf]

Have you tried CS gas for the Svest guys?

[brittle sable]

you just want to catch them by surprise and in a way that they cant detonate

bangs, gas, taser, its all the same

[earnest wolf]

having SWAT guys with bonus to intimidation and then stacking stun effects seems to work best

[willow vector]

yup, mostly running a cs gas team as based on my experienec bangs and nades aren't at their best rn. it's really just for those moments where all 5 of us have surrounded a vest guy, and we're just magdumping him with pepper balls and he just won't comply

Ah, i'm on practice so no perks lel

[earnest wolf]

the perks do help, though it's always difficult to know how much

[willow vector]

I

i'll just leave this one up to silly-RoN-AI

i feel my issue would be solved if we could just take away the swat AI's sidearms completely

[earnest wolf]

it's a very common complaint tbh - hopefully they'll tweak it

Have you tried taking all their pistol ammo away?

[brittle sable]

do tasers simulate muscle spasms pulling the trigger on hostage takers and armed suspects?

[willow vector]

yeah and i had to learn the hard way that even if you took away all their mags they still have 1 loaded mag/bullet in their gun, it just stops them from reloading

got an A+ earlier because one of the AI domed a vest guy bcos he wouldnt comply :////

[earnest wolf]

I didn't realise they still had 1 bullet - I'm pretty sure my guys have their slides back on their pistols... but they do still switch to them rather than reload their primary :/

which doesn't go well

[willow vector]

no honestly it confuses me because i take away my own ammo as well and the slides are back

but I literally watched one of my guys execute a svest guy point blank with their pistol

[earnest wolf]

lmao

[willow vector]

0 mags and all

thank u 1.0

ACTUALLY you know what i'm gonna go and check my squad's loadout rn and make sure i'm not embarrassing myself

i'm an idiot, end of discussion

one guy has 1 mag

[brittle sable]

i feel like the taser needs a failure randomness
like especially on the dudes with ghetto backpack plates that shit should not work 100% of the time

[crude prism]

If you're within close proximity to the guys with the bomb vests, they will not surrender. You need to back off to the point where they aren't trying to blow up the second they get out of stun

[willow vector]

okay this is great advice, i'll keep this in mind

big if true

i'm glad the svest guys can't just instantly blow up as soon as they're out of stun

[crude prism]

Just gotta be quick on the draw, as their animation is pretty quick to go boom

[willow vector]

luckily haven't had this happen yet. my boys haven't failed me, yet

[crude prism]

please no, hitreg is already janky enough without RNG failures on connecting hits

[willow vector]

is it ever a good idea to go thru the dancefloor room of neon tomb

[crude prism]

The dancefloor is like #2 or #3 of the worst possible positions you can be in for the entire game

Just wedge the front side, work the left hall, wedge it from the bar and ignore until you clear the entire rest of the map and then come down from the 2nd floor stairs

[willow vector]

yeah i usually just wedge all doors leading to the dancefloor

[crude prism]

there's no good way to fight it, so locking it off is the best thing you can do

[bright valley]

A gun that already punishes inaccuracy by only having two shots per reload and doesn't even permanently stop the threat by killing/incapping it would only be made more frustrating by having a chance to just randomly not work when you're doing everything right.

(also yeah as MMMM said the hitreg is fucking garbage, I literally can't get the thing to work when I play multiplayer)

[willow vector]

this was definitely the answer i was looking for. completely changed how i approach rooms with svest guys and it worked. thanks mate cheers to u

[bright valley]

Yeah, MMMM is one of the few people who's actually bothered to dig into the game and test things and learn how stuff works, they usually know their shit.

[spiral crypt]

I mean, kinda as it should be. Taser has its purpose, but irl... holy fuck. damn thing only works to actually incapacitate someone like 40% of the time or less and is HEAVILY dependent on the targets clothing

[crude prism]

New update: beanbags, stingers, and tasers randomly fail based on the clothing worn/size of the suspects (but of course not actually, it's just dice rolls)

[spiral crypt]

exactly, would make nonlethal even more threatening and require much more careful strats. Sounds fun to me tbh. Wearing armor? use pepper, wearing mask, use flashbang. have thick clothes but no armor, use beanbag. It would make every item have a more distinct purpose imo

[bright valley]

The thing is, most of the circumstances you're using LTLs in this game are already way riskier than we'd ever bother with IRL, so I don't really think it'd be good for gameplay to lean into their IRL unreliability. The effect it'd have on gameplay is mostly just discouraging people from bothering with the tools at all.

[crude prism]

I think the first step is to make the gas masks that suspects wear NOT cosmetic

[brittle sable]

yeah im alright with not having random failure but having it still work if you hit a guys backpack is meh

[spiral crypt]

agreed

I mean like, having it scan location and register whats on that location would be neat, so you could still tase the fuck out of someone's forehead

[crude prism]

I would be fine with taser not affecting guys with body armor, depending where you hit, but honestly, it just sounds like it would add so much tedium and mechanics that players won't understand

see the giant bullshit spreadsheet trying to explain the things Void puts in game

[spiral crypt]

this game is already full of that, its not really a game catered for people not interested in realism (to some extent, lol)

[crude prism]

Face/vital internal modeling when

[spiral crypt]

PLS

[stone stump]

it doesn't feel like ron is realistic to begin with tho

[spiral crypt]

It definitely struggles for sure, but there are a couple things it does fairly well I think

at least 2

[bright valley]

This is the play IMO. It's not that I think you should be able to just take a lethal playstyle and swap out all your guns for LTLs and boom free S rank, but like, there needs to be play and counterplay. Players making decisions based on information they have access to. It's much more rewarding that way.

[spiral crypt]

EXACTLY, that's all im talking about bby

[brittle sable]

i just wish we could have a beanbag or pepperball as long tactical

so you can carry a long gun lethal and a long gun less lethal

[crude prism]

As "cool" as detailed internal modeling would be for hitboxes, I can imagine the frustration and confusion already.

face hitbox/accurate plate coverage alone would make the game nigh-unplayable

[bright valley]

Nothing more frustrating than getting screwed over by something you had no way of really anticipating or playing around.

[spiral crypt]

That's why briefings are nice, and mirrors are used. :P

[crude prism]

More suspects should have gas masks randomly spread about depending on the map, they should also FUNCTION

Suspects should have low-level or medium-level helmets that can deflect low-caliber/JHP munitions
Suspects SHOULD have an armor type capable of defeating AP rifle rounds, promoting alternative strategies

Suspects could have welding masks for reducing the effects of flashes, body armor for reducing the effects of nonlethals

[spiral crypt]

Agreed to all

That's literally the gist of what I was suggesting earlier

[bright valley]

With the current direction of the game, you honestly need a crapload of metagame knowledge to really get the most out of it. You get incomplete, sometimes inaccurate briefings/pre-mission intel, and the design decisions that cater more towards realism vs gameplay or vice-versa are kind of sporadic.

[crude prism]

A bunch of the tooltips in game are still misleading or downright incorrect

And because of errors in balancing on the backend as well, you end up with multiple JHP ammo types with 0% bleeding chance

JHP ammo types that don't actually deal more limb damage

Traits are super vague and just kinda "I sure hope this is helping me" in commander mode

[spiral crypt]

I mean yes, but if you really hone in on those briefings, some of the intel isn't great but it tells you everything you need to know. A lot of the time it tells you the type of people you are up against ( now you know approx skill level), weps/armor in security cam shots or by audio id in 911 calls (now you know what armor and weps to bring yourself), if the brief mentions them being involved in chemical attacks or something of the sort (expect gas masks), etc

The one thing the briefing is consistently shit at imo, is telling you how many MFs are in the area, lol.

[bright valley]

I could be talking out of my ass, but I kind of sometimes get the impression that the game has had to walk back on a lot of its initial "realism first" design philosophy because reality just ain't that fucking fun.

[crude prism]

The game lacking visual identifiers for certain enemy types is also a huge mistake.

LOTS of the thinly-clothed women on Cherryessa are actually wearing L3A plates
The guys on SINS that are wearing form fitting suits with maybe some magazine rigging are actually the heaviest armored guys in the game with L4 plates

[spiral crypt]

23 mb a second is garbo at that for sure

[spiral crypt]

very valid criticism for sure, visually obvious armor is important for sure

[spiral crypt]

agreed, but people still play arma with ace 3 mod installed.

[crude prism]

Same thing on mindjot, around half of the guys wearing those thin outfits are also in L3A plates, but not visually distinct to their unarmored counterparts

Mindjot also has dudes with helmets, but guess what, also cosmetic

(even though I think that's a bug as they're almost all equipped with helmets in their actual loadout in the game files)

[spiral crypt]

those helmets kinda do strike me as cosmetic tho, they look like construction hard hats painted white lmao.

But yeah, it would make sense if they had some ballistic protection

[crude prism]

The best part of ACE for Arma 3 is removing the medical system and using all the other cool modules it comes with instead

[spiral crypt]

personally, I agree, but there are people who still love that level of realism, and I think I would have fun playing a Ready or Not made for those people

[crude prism]

Easy, you just gotta remove the damage cap that suspects have against players, then you'll get 1 tapped by shots that hit your bare torso

[spiral crypt]

true, or make it even more realistic and have it only be a one tap if it intersects with your literal heart or lungs hitbox, allowing you to survive hits that miss your vitals. Sounds badass

[bright valley]

Designing for PvP is pretty different from designing for PvE. In the former, you just have to give everyone the same stuff to make things fair, the latter requires much more deliberate work to craft a particular experience for the player.

[crude prism]

If they dropped a PvP mode into RoN right now, it would be a disgusting mess of JHP arm/leg meta

[spiral crypt]

That's fair. One of the reasons I love PvE more is because balancing doesn't make sense especially in the case of realism. Just make weapons as effective as they really are. Kinda why I'm pissed that the 9banger and the hopper fed peppergun are gone :(

[crude prism]

TBH they could really make them balanced and effective in the current sandbox

Same as leaving the M32A1 as an alternative primary

(but no reloads still)

[spiral crypt]

Yeah, but balancing in what way?

[bright valley]

Ironically blowing up in the face of anyone who loathes the idea of aiming for limbs as a cop.

[spiral crypt]

If it adds things like those welding masks with resistance to flash you mentioned earlier, I'm all about it. If it artificially like, idk reduces stun range or something silly, I wouldn't think that's very good idea

[crude prism]

Hopper fed pepperball would come with a set amount of ammo, say 100 shots, but you can't add ammo to it, as reloading the thing is not feasible.

This would let you have extra slots alloted for other equipment, but obviously wouldn't be suited for larger maps. Also you could keep the pepperballs out of the hopper at a lower velocity to limit their ranged usage

9-bangs could be more effective in a larger range, but more stressful to suspects as it is a bunch of repeated detonations instead of just 1

[spiral crypt]

Yeah, that makes sense to me, and I wouldn't even call it balancing at that point

You are literally just expanding the realism and that naturally balances it lol

[crude prism]

I hope they listen to my suggestion a while ago about rebalancing Kevlar too, it's dumb to have it be useless in basically every scenario

[spiral crypt]

And if you've played paintball before, you might know about those little tube cylinder things with a full reload of paintballs for the hopper. They take up a lot of space (so maybe taking two loadout points per cylinder?) but they strike me as still pretty viable

[crude prism]

It's not even good against small arms because the blunt damage is so high you just fall over dead while the vest is catching shots

[spiral crypt]

^also true. Kevlar should have a much higher resistance against what it is designed to resist. If you get smacked with any pistol caliber, maybe only take 20% of that damage or something idfk

[bright valley]

Unlike PvP where you're balancing a game to ensure that one team/player isn't just having a grand old time steamrolling at the cost of everyone else's misery, balancing a PvE is more about trying to make sure the player is being engaged with the right amount of challenge, and that overcoming that challenge is fun and interesting for the player.

[crude prism]

By raising the damage resist to 70% up from 50%, they could make it comparable to steel, but ONLY against small calibers. Rifles would still zip straight through

[spiral crypt]

Exactly

[bright valley]

You're kind of creating miniature puzzles, but the puzzles are ultimately intended to be solvable.

[crude prism]

"but muh realism" cries the players, soft body armor sucks!

[bright valley]

"What gear do I bring?" is a puzzle. "What gear do I deploy, right now?" is another.

[spiral crypt]

Yup. I kinda like how DCS does it (as a full hypersim or w/e). There is no balancing. Equipment is exactly as it should be, as it actually is. But the situations, the mission, the enemy tactics behaviors numbers equipment and etc change dynamically and require different strats and methods. The balancing comes from the mission maker not the actual equipment (for pve anyways)

[crude prism]

Erm, it's kinda cringe that the devs don't let me just spam every room with explosives because of the stress system!

[bright valley]

Although I catch the joking tone, there's probably room to argue for enabling different playstyles to function, though that can be really daunting from a designer's perspective.

[crude prism]

Unfortunately there's a balance that has to be set between "realism" "fun" "immersion" and (you guessed it) "balancing!"

Adding the M32A1 back with the ability to stock and reload extra ammo might be "realistic" "fun" and "immersive", but it would completely shatter the actual gameplay loop

[spiral crypt]

Anyways, this was a genuinely refreshing conversation, thank you.

[crude prism]

You can't just give players access to blatantly overpowered items (The first mistake was introducing it at all in the past)

[spiral crypt]

Not super sure how it would shatter the gameplay loop, but it is a certainly strong weapon

[crude prism]

Even if you only got a single extra shot for every ammo slot you give it. You could still have 6 + 13 (with light armor) flash grenades + 4x flash grenades in a 40mm M320

Times that by 5 players and the game is now mush

[spiral crypt]

I can do that with regular flashes too

difference is rate of fire I guess

[crude prism]

But regular flashes aren't a semi-automatic rotary launcher that can be fired at will and instantly detonate

The current 40mms are already overpowered as fuck because they removed the only downside of using them: the impact damage

They're simply cheese tools that you launch directly at suspects while swinging a door

[bright valley]

I only miss the primary flash launcher 'cause I liked bringing it for dedicated shield/support loadouts. I definitely wasn't unleashing its full potential to totally break the game though.

[spiral crypt]

True. But I think the problem isn't that the weapon is overpowered. Hell if I could mount a .50 on top of the bearkat and use that, that'd be lovely, but the reason that overpowered weapons feel overpowered is cause they are and the suspects as they currently stand are very weak in terms of what they are capable of. They don't aggressively flank, they don't peek from murderholes (not counting greased palms lmfao), they don't take cover, they don't suppress (unless trying to kill you through a wall), they are lifeless.

[crude prism]

40mm are broke because
1: they no longer kill anyone, so they can be used haphazardly
2: the launchers have no greater effective range over the normal grenades, which means that using them against walls/roofs/floors in an attempt to hit suspects without LOS means they'll probably be out of range a lot of the time, vs normal grenades which tend to land more center-of-room

[spiral crypt]

I guess, there's your balance. You fight an enemy that thinks, and you give the players all the tools you can

[crude prism]

You have to be careful with what you add at all into the game. Like the TPL, do you guys think the TPL is a good addition? Will you LITERALLY ever use it?

[spiral crypt]

Also I support grenades harming people more, standing next to a flashbang or stinger might take a toe off or something of the sort.

[crude prism]

Stingers do deal a good bit of damage, flashes still don't tho 🤷

[bright valley]

You really do have to anticipate that players will often just gravitate towards optimized strategies even when those strategies aren't fun. Just a weird quirk of our brains essentially being problem-solving organs. I've heard it argued from some particularly cheeky designers that "you basically have to trick the player into having fun".

[spiral crypt]

what about all the pistols? all the 9mms and 45s are almost identical statistically. Its there for people who want it

[crude prism]

Eh, the closeness in performance is actually a good thing tbh

[bright valley]

Yeah, when you have choices that feel roughly equal, it becomes down to personal preference.

[spiral crypt]

agreed, the same caliber fired out of the similarly lengthed barrel should typically perform the same

[crude prism]

If weapons were more specified down to things like "this 9mm handgun deals 10% more damage over the other ones" we would just be gravitating towards a hard meta instead of

"They're all pretty good, so use what you like"

[spiral crypt]

exactly the same

TPL and VKS

[bright valley]

See also: the fucking Five-seveN.

[spiral crypt]

TPL has shorter barrel, better peeking doors, VKS has more capacity, better general purpose.

and preference too

[crude prism]

TPL ammo economy throws the whole weapon into the trash, it's actually unusable comparatively

Especially when your kit is already fighting for slot allotment

[bright valley]

Yeah, 12 round pepperball magazines really really blow when 1 slot = 1 magazine no matter what.

[crude prism]

It's even more irrelevant than using the TLE/M45 because "cool"

TPL as a primary is a joke, TPL as a secondary though? Maybe we've got something

[bright valley]

to be fair, the 1911s do have a lot of cool. stupid sexy tactical reload

[spiral crypt]

lol

alright, I gotta get back to Relapse, still trying to tackle this lil shit

[bright valley]

Seeing the possibility of secondary TPL definitely intrigued me when I read it in the dev briefing.

[crude prism]

They could solve the TPL + M45/TLE by simply giving two magazines per slot if they really wanted to

Then it's at least comparable to their counterparts

[bright valley]

Mhmm. It'd make the choices into larger magazines vs more ammo overall.

[spiral crypt]

Sorry, just had to give my two cents (I swear I'll go back to relapse asap), but yes. I think physically smaller mags taking fewer points makes sense.

[crude prism]

Relapse is pain

I wish you luck 👍

I'm out for the nightizzle, later gamers

[bright valley]

[spiral crypt]

thanks ❤️

good talk honestly,

[shadow ether]

All right that is all cool but
Do y'all think we need a primary MGL

An MGL loaded with CS shells would be a massively good tool of area denial ||which could come in handy in quite a few levels||

Hell, six flashbangs in a mag could save some lives in a pinch, especially on that post office level

[bright valley]

The nade launchers are kinda cracked at the moment since they don't affect their users. That'd be amplified if you could fire multiple consecutive shots without reloading.

[shadow ether]

That's why it's a primary

Maybe with a tradeoff, extra grenades besides the 6 loaded would take 1 slot each

[stone stump]

maybe I'm missing something, but are they a puzzle really?

i feel like there isn't much incentive to have player change their loadout on a per map basis

[bright valley]

I mean this a bit more conceptually than literally, in the sense that they're questions you ask as a player and try to answer with the information you have on hand.

I agree that there isn't a lot of incentive to adjust loadouts per mission, though even in the broader scope the player might try to weigh what they want to bring on missions in general.

[rocky plover]

i miss the flash launcher in the primary slot ngl

[brittle sable]

oh my god
a suspect just randomly popped a civvie in the basement of voll while i was clearing level 3

i think it ricocheted off a guy who was firing from the courtyard

[near schooner]

aint no way they added bouncing bullets

[brittle sable]

yeah they ricochet now

not hollowpoints tho iirc

[rocky plover]

yea they can also richocet off steel plates so careful around teammates with steel plates

[round frigate]

my god, doing S-rank and bots keep taking out pistols with 0 ammo

[rocky plover]

yea annoying

[hybrid rose]

hello
does anybody know how to download the police mod in ready or not

[crystal sierra]

I can say with confidence, Voll House is nightmare for S rank, lol.

[ivory kiln]

i love m249

[willow vector]

just beat neon tomb on S

bean bag actually solves the svest problem too since it seems that the stun effect of the beanbag makes them comply much easier

compared to the pepper ball which locks them in that loop of trying to blow up when ur nearby

[ivory kiln]

i find it hilarious that s-vests surrender

[willow vector]

honestly

[old scarab]

Hello guys, im looking for tips, i am currently doing "ides of march"(shooter in hotel) mission, and i die ALOT repeatedly because im trying to focus on arrested 3 suspect (objective) but i cant seem to get the suspects to surrender at all even if i use flash bang ( their either in a different room to far or i would be exposed when throwing it) how the hell can i deal with this? (Im always facing this problem since the 3rd mission (twisted nerve 213) and i am doing all lethals

[wicked turtle]

Yeah an S-vest going off or not shouldn't affect scoring. It should be a given just because of it's name 😉

[spiral crypt]

flashbang is the least effective grenade right now, try gas or stingers, might help @old scarab

[gaunt hatch]

@old scarab
This guy's videos really helped me. He has passages of each level to the S level.
https://www.youtube.com/@the_takibo

[foggy zinc]

you can use gas and yell for compliance, if they're under its effect they will always comply. Gas masks worn by enemies are purely cosmetic as well, so don't worry about that stuff. Door wedges on that map are aslso good to lock off potential flanks from all the major rooms (i.e. 1204, 1203, etc), as well as the main center room.

[crystal sierra]

Gas mask works on the forrest safehouse map with a lot of traps and only 2/3 suspects, tested, idk for other maps :X

[foggy zinc]

i ran it yesterday and the guy with the gask mask definitely took the vks gas

might needa test it further

[crystal sierra]

What's the all side objectives in Voll Health house? I Found laptop and room in the basement, there was a HDD if i remember correctly, but it was only pre- 1.0 ? Edit: Found it, video tapes in top floor room where recording was happening :X

[thorny warren]

made some progress with neon tomb since the last time i've been here, im now able to clear the first floor

[crystal sierra]

Bring a lot of wedges, clear from the side, when you enter, place wedge on duble door corridor leading towards main hall / podium. go to the left inside small room where they sell tickets, clear next corridor, place wedge on the another duble door leading towards same hallway that leads to Podium, continue clearing trough sides, overall, leave main room / podium as last to clear, you can pretty much wedge all rooms around that one.

@thorny warren For more context check my last spoiler post in RoN media :X , red represents wedge, if blue line crosses trough door that means wedge it after clearing the room, so wedge your flank. Green represents safest staircase to approach second floor, Second floor is pretty much linear, so you kind of don't need any kind of specific strategy for that one.

[thorny warren]

i guess, ty

[earnest wolf]

fml my AI swats keep getting headshot from across the map on hide and seek x(

[crystal sierra]

Which map was it again? xD

[earnest wolf]

The last one I think - the port

I so nearly did it on my first run - died right at the back of the warehouse

since then... not so good 😄

[foggy zinc]

port hoken

[earnest wolf]

it's almost comical, twice in a row I've had my team split and I'm approaching one group about to tell them to advance and pop the front guy drops like a sack of potatoes

[crystal sierra]

Uh, can't help you with that one much xDDDD except to give advice to clear from right to the left, when you clear first section, there is two paths leading in front of same container house, instead of going to the left to split path, go to the right, you will saw path trough containter, push trough that, then go right, there will be some forward path to the right edge of the map, start clearing from there moving along the wall.

[earnest wolf]

right to left is a solid tip - I'll give that a go. ty

[crystal sierra]

As well, leave warehouse for the last, clear it after you clear overall outside area

[earnest wolf]

yeah if i hook round right I reckon I can wedge off the warehouse, clear the rest of the outside, then tackle warehouse last

that's sort of what I did on my first run where I nearly completed it, but it was pretty chaotic 😄

[crystal sierra]

And yeah, when entering warehouse, DO NOT allow your team to explore by themself, go with all 4 all the time, if they split, they are dead.

Also, good advice would be to run ballistic shield at least on Alfa, can help a lot.

[earnest wolf]

I had dropped the shield because of the range of the outside fights, but I guess it would be useful for pushing the warehouse

[crystal sierra]

As well, use night vision and IR laser for precise shots, helps a lot when spotting enemy far away.

[earnest wolf]

nice ty. Feel like I've got some things to try for my next attempt 🙂

[crystal sierra]

Now, try to finish that mission on S difficulty 😄

[earnest wolf]

😟 lol

[crystal sierra]

I'm currently doing it rn xD need to clear High school now, finally managed to clear Voll health house after 5/6 tries -.-

[earnest wolf]

This one and relapse I can't imagine getting S. Relapse just because it's soo big with so many enemies, and this one because of the huge open areas making it harder to get surrenders detained

[earnest wolf]

Nice! Valley of dolls seems very difficult to S as well with that outside bar area

[crystal sierra]

Oh, i have quite much expirience on relapse, will provably clear thast one on first try now when i failed like 10 times on my first classic run.

[crystal sierra]

My main problem with Voll Health house was actually courtyard, house is almost all made of glass, so they will start shooting you from courtyard below if you start clearing from top floor, i found safe path where i clear inside bar area first alongside Voll's office, so, when entering inside countyard is much easier then coming from inside the house, since again, they can shoot you trough glass.

After clearing back garden, going to basement is also viable option since it will give you acess to enter courtyard / party area in the same time from both sides of the map, but wasn't confident enough to let AI teammates go alone that far away from me in order to clear

[earnest wolf]

Yeah I can see that working... not easy though 😬 . I was trying to clear the basement first on my runs too, but then not emerging up those stairs into the middle of the bar area. I just cleared as much as I could in that direction and then sealed it off and worked back round up through the front door

[crystal sierra]

I love the fact that the house is kind of linear / split in pieces, so it's easier to navigate in terms of wedges / crowd control.

[earnest wolf]

I'm very wedge happy

yeah definitely

[crystal sierra]

When you enter inside bar area, where is Voll's office as well, there is single door leading to second floor few rooms, 1 door leads to stairs leading to second floor where gym is, you jeam it to prevent others from coming down, and there is two doors on the right, same room, usually 1 guard or noone there, there is chance to to get shoot from below since there is not much place to manouver up there.

[earnest wolf]

It took me so many goes to finish that map that I've not tried it since. I'll give it another go later. thanks again for the tips. I'm going to have another go at the port. Wish me luck

[crystal sierra]

Btw, idk if you ever completed all side objectives, focus on containers with spider graffiti on them, in one of them you will find either car or weapons, one of those or maybe both, don't remember exacly.

As well, another side objective, you provably found it is inside the warehouse, red room with a lot of laptops inside there.

[earnest wolf]

yeah I've been looking at those. I just discovered last attempt that they randomise whats inside the containers so I guess I've got to check them all every time lol

the first one has had a car in every attempt apart from the last one where it had the drugs 🤷‍♂️

[crystal sierra]

Usually, there is one empty container on the spawn point, always empty mostly, second one is usually located along the route i told you above, it's on the right side from the path leading to right corner of the map

[earnest wolf]

cheers dude 👍

[thorny warren]

i brought order to chaos and rescued everyone, dont tell me the third objective absolutely needs to be completed in order to win? im gonna cry

like i only had one dude left in my team...

[crystal sierra]

If you completed bring order to chaos objective, press Search and Secure area command, AI will go and cuff all remaining suspects / get all remaining weapons by themself, they can move freely after all since there is no suspects

[thorny warren]

i completed bring order to chaos and rescue all civilians, but yeah it was that damn leader, my dude found him

i got a C, quite terrible considering i got S in multiple other levels but hey, neon tomb is a nightmare

[crystal sierra]

Wait untill you get to Hide and Seek mission aka Port Hookan xD

[thorny warren]

the first mission doesn't even sound like something that patrol officers couldn't handle

[slate bear]

how many shooters is there on elephant?

[foggy zinc]

4 only

slightly armoured so rifles or shotties are advised imo

[slate bear]

okay thanks

im not having any troubles with the weapons currently, bomb keeps detonating though. idk where it is

[thorny warren]

i've been struggling because i only looked floor by floor and room by room, they can also be on stairs between floors

[foggy zinc]

bombs are located on both ends of the map i believe

[thorny warren]

good thing they can't be on the outside at least

[foggy zinc]

from the northern entrance where the downed civ is, there is usually one past the green doors to the right

[winter orbit]

Anybody seen any of the suspects on Brisa Cove use an SLR-47 or any other 7.62x39mm?

[foggy zinc]

i believe they can have RPKs

other than that its custom ARs, which i think fire 5.56

[winter orbit]

Found a list on the map listing their ammunition, has 5.56 and 7.62x39 but no mention of 7.62x51 and i'm guessing it's an error because the rifles they use to assassinate the Senator are M24s

[thorny warren]

like i said 4 months ago (damn time is flying by), i want RPG-7 to be added for suspects

[foggy zinc]

port hoken but every suspect has an rpg

imagine if void added map destruction to the game

[slate bear]

ive secured the bomb and apprehended 2 suspects

[thorny warren]

also difficulty levels, that would be nice

[slate bear]

YES ive brought order to chaos, now i just gotta find all of the civilians

[foggy zinc]

Easy: No crack for AI, light armour, minimal suspects
Medium: Regular AI difficulty, normal settings everywhere
Hard: More crack for AI, RPGS, max armor, max suspects

[thorny warren]

or like RPG-26 so they can also carry an AK

[earnest wolf]

Nice! You can use 'search and secure' to have your AI boys hunt out the civilians

[thorny warren]

i was thinking more about reducing their reaction times for new players

[slate bear]

i have the no swat mod lol, so i dont gotta worry about commanding them and everything

[buoyant current]

ngl ron is getting bad

[earnest wolf]

ah wow. 1 man army

[thorny warren]

i used to play with no swat before 1.0, now i cant install mods for some reason

[buoyant current]

well, not bad. But hard.

[thorny warren]

it actually wasn't that difficult

[slate bear]

some mods have to be updated for 1.00 and stuff

[earnest wolf]

If I host a multiplayer game with no one I'm pretty sure it's just me with no boys. It's only practice though

[slate bear]

they send 1 man to take care of a school shooting

[earnest wolf]

lol

Los Suenos things

You're that guy who defies the department policy of waiting for backup to save those kids

[thorny warren]

or maybe the team fell asleep in the truck because it was too comfy

[slate bear]

or they just couldnt afford hiring any police

[foggy zinc]

tbh the reaction time isn't a problem for me sometimes, its mainly their insane accuracy and firerate

[thorny warren]

there is only a college rn in the game

[buoyant current]

The npc reactions are too fast.

They literally have aimbot

[foggy zinc]

ALSO HOW CAN A BACKPACK BE SO DANG POWERFUL FOR PROTECTION

[slate bear]

plenty of mods to fix that, im currently having no problems

[buoyant current]

Exacrtly.

[buoyant current]

What mods?

[earnest wolf]

yeah I meant kids in the figurative sense. They had their whole lives ahead of them 😢

[slate bear]

swat and suspect ai overhaul for one

[buoyant current]

on nexus?

[earnest wolf]

It's also funny because of the downed cops already in the building. "Okay, send another one"

[slate bear]

nexus and mod io

[slate bear]

lmao yeah i saw them, there was an alive one in the computer room

seems like someone didnt do their job

[buoyant current]

like i breached a door, looked up and by the time i looked up i was dead

They oneshot me, faster than i could walk into the room