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[obtuse schooner]

Same

[stone bay]

Don't really have to exit

Idk why I kept saying exit earlier

[obtuse schooner]

Well I did that too and nothing so I'll just screenshare

[tough spire]

I'm in US 25

Okay try to apply a loadout to Charlie

[obtuse schooner]

You see it?

[tough spire]

So far working as intended

HA yup.

Can confirm his game is just bugged.

[obtuse schooner]

Yep.

[tough spire]

Both Default and Non-Default

[obtuse schooner]

Woopie.

[tough spire]

You're not crazy, my man. At least not in regards to this.

[obtuse schooner]

Didn't think so.

[tough spire]

Try the ol' verification of game files

[obtuse schooner]

I'll try.

Thanks.

[tough spire]

Good luck 🥲 what a horrible bug

[obtuse schooner]

Also is MP5 good for postal office?

Or is it bad for range?

[tough spire]

If you're staying in the center it's good, if you play like I do and run the perimeter first it's not great

[obtuse schooner]

tbh I don't know how to do postal yet, its so BIG

[stone bay]

The damage falloff will defo get you killed

For any SMG in that map

[obtuse schooner]

Got it, so AR for postal.

Which one? lol

[stone bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1075868135883808870/1101540530137075812/jessie.gif

[stone bay]

Any works

Unless you wanna be meta like the spreadsheet

[stone bay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1878248973

[obtuse schooner]

I just want to get through it without any of my officers dying

[stone bay]

Get 1 shield guy then the rest ARs I guess. Unless you want 2 shield guys like some people do

[tough spire]

Some people like to have a shield hitting the 1 and 2 positions 😤

[stone bay]

If it works I mean who gon stop them I guess. Unless the terminator suspects decide to pull something

[tough spire]

My most successful Ironman run is no shield no gas no wedge so who knows.

[obtuse schooner]

Is there an ideal method of doing postal?

Center seemed good until I got to the rest of the building and everything went to shit

[tough spire]

I work the entire thing from the outside perimeter first, using every opportunity I can to peek in and take targets of opportunity. Works great for me

[deep rain]

postal with wallbang x-ray AI is mostly about just getting a lucky draw for enemy spawn position 😛

[marsh lark]

What works for me is make an entry on the front door, clear the bathrooms and push to the hallway with 3 doors. Wedge the 2 right doors and go in the left door that leads outside behind the box truck and clear the outside. After that make an entry from the furthest bay and make your way towards FISA office. After that is finished you go up the catwalk and clear it. Go down the stairs by the office and then go towards the spawn and clear the second post building.

[stone bay]

Yeah shield is weird sometimes

[obtuse schooner]

[maiden prairie]

bring door wedge and start outside or the right side of the map where you spawn (drop off office)

[stone bay]

It’s like the AI becomes worse with a shield. They forget how to AI

[bright valley]

Greased Palms is such a wide open clusterfuck I find it kind of hard to implement a really tight high-level strategy like you can with some other missions.

[stone bay]

Doesn’t happen all the time but against competent suspects they die a lot faster than without a shield

[tough spire]

If we could just have "tuck your damn gun in" as an option it'd help so much

[obtuse schooner]

Alright thanks

[stone bay]

[tough spire]

The number of times I've had an AI get his arm shot off stacked on a door with his shield because he's holding out and into the door... 😱

[meager pelican]

Did recent patch help with FPS issues?

[bright valley]

Using wedges on basically every door you're exposed to and then selectively scouting and pushing your wedges forward into rooms to increase your claim on the space is such a great strategy on the maps that allow it. Brixley Talent Time is a standout there.

[stone bay]

Mine’s Clemente Hotel. I absolutely hate the Living Room and Director’s Room area

[meager pelican]

cooool

[tough spire]

I might actually hate hotel more than Greased. So not looking forward to that....

[bright valley]

Lets you take those hell rooms with like 4 or 5+ entrances and simplify them by the time you decide to work them, basically.

[marsh lark]

No, but next hotfix or two will fix it (Void said so)

[bright valley]

Sins of the Father is way easier to process with the AI SWAT team than Greased Palms. Conveniently has a lot of doors/room dividers that look straight down long corridors, great opportunity to have one element split stack to provide cover while you work rooms with the other element.

[plain kraken]

Easier to flash/gas too

With smaller spaces

[tough spire]

It's really the two large open areas with two stories. Everything else is fine.

[bright valley]

(Give us back the ability to order the AI to open doors they're stacked on, VOID! >:[ )

[plain kraken]

I think one of the worst shit that happened to me was a suspect that opened the wedged door

[bright valley]

The elevator room is pretty much guaranteed safe 'cause it's a spawn point, the other two story room I just take care of by working the top floor first.

[plain kraken]

Wiped my entire team

[tough spire]

Yeeeeaaaah that can happen and it's duuuuumb

[plain kraken]

And the door stay wedged open

[tough spire]

You can unwedge it and reset it but still

[bright valley]

As for that room with the "Dishonor" graffiti... eh, if I'm taking it from the stairs I just have the team fall in and I hug the walls.

[plain kraken]

Not ideal if you are getting shot at

And aiming for S rank

[velvet steeple]

exactly.

[tough spire]

Hot take: UMP is the best LTL weapon.

[velvet steeple]

what thebgell is LTL

[tough spire]

Less than Lethal

[velvet steeple]

45 removes the ribcage from the body

[tough spire]

I just dumped literally 6 rounds center mass on a shooter in Elpehant and he just.... surrendered.

[velvet steeple]

didn’t you hear joe

[tough spire]

New meta.

[crude prism]

New meta, use super shitty garbage ammo against suspects with the best armor

[tough spire]

Exactly.

[crude prism]

It will almost always cause them to surrender too lol

[tough spire]

What's wild is I'm using AP rounds, too

[crude prism]

UMP with AP can only take the light suspect armor, awful on medium/heavy

[tough spire]

Clearly 😂

I should roll back to JPH and tickle them to submission

[crude prism]

.45 JHP would actually down them in less hits to the armor than .45 AP

[tough spire]

o rly.

Interesting. May need to try that.

[crude prism]

It's because both types of .45 are so terrible at breaking their armor that you're literally blunt-damaging them to death instead

[tough spire]

Yeah it makes sense.

[stone bay]

I dunno if it’s the mods but for some reason the SWAT AI gets stuck a lot more often now after the updates

[tough spire]

I'm just perpetually underwhelmed by the UMP.

[stone bay]

You know when they just stand there after giving them a command? Yeah that one. Ik you reset them with “Fall In” but even after that, they still stand there

[bright valley]

low fire rate, low magazine capacity, dunno what you expect lol

[stone bay]

That wasn’t much of a problem for me until today

[bright valley]

it is certainly one of the guns of all time

[tough spire]

I haven't had that problem (YET) 😬 maybe mods?

[stone bay]

Definitely could be a factor. I only have 1 AI mod anyway. The rest are cosmetics

[bright valley]

Really annoys me to have to resort to a Fall In order to fix them when they're stuck. Takes everyone way out of position at times when I really don't want to do that.

[earnest python]

45 is just a terrible round for any kind of armor penetration. It's a fat, slow bullet and you really really need velocity to defeat armor

[tough spire]

Yeahhh

Also I'm literally watching a YouTube on the history of the G36 right now, wild for you to show up

[stone bay]

He is allseeing

[earnest python]

is it the XboxAhoy one?

[tough spire]

YES

Okay that's creepy AF. lol

[stone bay]

Told you bro

[tough spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlr_Py1BpwY&ab_channel=Ahoy

[earnest python]

love that little gun

[tough spire]

I had to check to see if you shared the server I'm in I got the video from

[tough spire]

Which sight would you want in this

[earnest python]

I'd like to put an EOtech or a Comp M4 on it

[wild lance]

Yall is ides of March supposed to be this hard?

[earnest python]

and also for it to have its carry handle

[tough spire]

Oh so you wouldn't do the integrated dual sight?

[wild lance]

I just got the game a couple of days ago and just got to this mission and I hate it lol

[earnest python]

the magnified optic is not gonna do us any favors in the CQB environments the game focuses on

[tough spire]

It's one of the major great filters of player tactics. You'll feel great once you figure it out 🙂

[earnest python]

and the integrated red dot is really a backup

[wild lance]

So I have just been wedging basically all doors from where I enter and start from the back area and go back but dude randomly one dude will aim bot me from somewhere I can’t even see him

[stone bay]

Dw it gets worse once you get to the other maps

[tough spire]

Your wedging plan is a great start. You may need to work on how you prep your rooms?

[wild lance]

Nah bro don’t say that 💀

[bright valley]

Except Ends of the Earth, which is just kind of thrown in the middle of all the bullshit lol

[earnest python]

yeah Ends is a really odd step in the difficulty curve

[stone bay]

Just sayin. Murphy’s Law

[wild lance]

Also I’m trying to get S so I’m using non lethal and I hate when they try getting back up when I’m tryna cuff em

[stone bay]

Oh yeah that one’s a freebie

[bright valley]

LTL blows on Brisa. Too much glass.

[wild lance]

What should I do?

[tough spire]

Brb making coffee then glad to help

[earnest python]

i'll hop in too why not

[wild lance]

Alr imma try and run through it then

[earnest python]

just @me when you're ready

[wild lance]

I’m ready whenever lol my bad

I was just loaded in already

[earnest python]

aight boss pick a VC channel

[tough spire]

While I wait for the brew:
If you're doing LTL my strat of choice is carpet bombing those big apartments with gas.

[gentle scaffold]

one question
does the steam cloud thing save anything from RoN?
cause my whole game is like 0% even though i played it to about 60%

[wild lance]

U.S. 7 @tough spire @earnest python

Just doing sum rq

[tough spire]

Oh are you wanting to co-op it or stream and get advice?

[wild lance]

idc

Whatever yall want tbh

[tough spire]

(Just so I know if I need to try to charge up my mic)

Well I'll lurk for now, if we co-op I'll hook up my mic.

[deep scaffold]

Hey, just poking in to ask: Is the game controller friendly?

[shy tulip]

You’d have to configure your controls using steam or external software

[deep scaffold]

But it'd work?

[astral warren]

If you make it work, yeah.

It's not designed for controller use but if you can reassign inputs to a controller using steam or another third party piece of software, as mentioned, it might be a little time consuming but you should only need to do it once.

RoN on steam deck best way to keep warm in the winter?

portable console and space heater, best of both worlds.

Completely unrelated side note, what sick fuck concocted the achievement parameters for "the hanged man"? A taser, flashbangs, and melee, on one of the darkest and most open maps really sounds like a punchline, not something you can actually accomplish.

[queen cloud]

In fairness, you can use a ton of flashbangs, just carry a metric crapton of those. Sadly however, they tend to hit enemy AI like marshmallows, and they can shake 'em off.

[astral warren]

Also bash has random range, seemingly. Also also the taser is probably the least reliable LTL in the game, since it can be defeated by clothing, making it a choice best suited to twisted nerve and maybe neon tomb if one of the scantily dressed ladies decides to saunter away instead of surrender.

[astral warren]

If you want a solid submachine gun, the 10mm MP5 is a great choice. The recoil is very manageable, it's able to defeat light armour consistently and with ease, and the jacketed hollow points are a solid choice for unarmoured opponents. The feds ACTUALLY knew what they were doing for once when they put together 10mm, at least until they started lightening the powder loads because feds have weak frail wrists, then it basically just became longer, more expensive .40 S&W

[tough spire]

I've been curious to try that! Good shout

[limber steppe]

okay you can't convince me the pistols in this game aren't BB guns, I literally dumped 2 mags into a suspect and he was unphased

[tough spire]

Which ammo

[stone bay]

I think you're exagerrating

[limber steppe]

ammo type or caliber

[tough spire]

Both

[limber steppe]

I used the five seven with armor piercing bullets

I'm not sure what caliber it is

[sudden marsh]

"we hope you had a great time" with the poor Ai and optimization yeah my time was great thanks Void

[tough spire]

Try 5-7 with JHP, you're probably overpenetrating

[feral sluice]

hey what's up with the update cause its not downloading

[astral warren]

Not enough space.

[sharp stratus]

Does .300 BLK drop suspects as easy as 7.62 nato?

[astral warren]

The download size is very compressed, once it unpacks it takes up way more space than the download size.

[crude prism]

You don't lose performance in-game because of having too much penetration. Only reason I could see the 57 not being good would be because of the range falloff or using against innapropriate armor

[astral warren]

So long as they don't have steel plates, .300blk has very good performance in my experience. The platforms that are chambered in it are VERY mobile, too.

7.62x51 is still going to put them down more consistently and faster, but it also can go through walls and kill civvies, and 300blk is subsonic, so it's much less of a problem.

[feral sluice]

no it ain't it i have 100+ gigs

[astral warren]

on the drive the game is installed on?

[feral sluice]

yea

[sharp stratus]

Even with JHP?

[astral warren]

Try restarting steam, and then if that doesn't work try clearing your steam cache.

[astral warren]

7.62x51 has a lot of ass behind it and it's quite hefty, so even a JHP still poses overpenetration risks with cover.

If you want a good compromise between the armour pen of 7.62x51 NATO and .300blk, try a 5.56 rifle. I find the F90 to be very maneuverable, and it likely has excellent muzzle velocity because of the bullpup layout, as well.

[feral sluice]

how do i clear it

never mind

[astral warren]

I do not recall, but I think steam has instructions somewhere for troubleshooting.

Worst case scenario just nuke the RoN folder and reinstall it.

Also, can someone explain to me why the fuck putting a laser pointer on your M45 increases its muzzle velocity?

What is this game smoking?

[bright valley]

das the speed of light, baybee. pew pew

[crude prism]

The game doesn't even simulate muzzle velocity, you're being trolled by stats

[hasty cosmos]

guys how to change mission to raid? my friend cant find a raid map, theyre all barricaded suspects

[hearty parrot]

jesus void this is all you had to do

not angry but am super glad theyre talking to us again

[tough spire]

"Currently, auditory sources are a large factor of whether Suspect AI can determine your location and how they may react to you." - What I've been trying to tell y'all 😂

"The granular control you have over your officers’ loadouts lets you remove lethal options, including ammunition, which can help circumvent unintended situations where they use lethal force for those of you striving for the coveted S-ranks." - This is so dumb tho, because the bots will literally pull empty secondaries. 🙃

[ruby talon]

yeah noticed if you walk the whole map its easier to catch them off guard

[tough spire]

👏 Stealth 👏 works! 💪

[crude prism]

At least until you press F

[bright valley]

The issue with that is that the AI SWAT only have one speed, and if basic movement is loud enough to get you tracked, you're SOL unless you want to ditch the squad entirely. :P

[tough spire]

If you walk and they're in fall-in mode, they also walk

Until you do a clear command then increase pace as they should

[hearty parrot]

"Stealth works"

The assault rifle in my hands:

[tough spire]

"“Stress” and “morale” in the context of suspects/civilians are mechanics that work together and sometimes against each other as you progress through each mission. ‘Stress,’ when it refers to suspects/civs, is how agitated they are during a mission. Gunfire, killing people, using grenades, and loud dynamic entries that nearby civ/suspect AI perceive are examples that increase suspect/civ stress level and make them more agitated. When stress for suspects/civs is high, they are more likely to be evasive, suspicious, attack you without hesitating, and less likely to comply with orders. “Morale” is a suspect/civilian’s willingness to surrender. The lower the morale, the more willing they are to surrender. Careful usage of less lethal weapons, grenades, and calls for compliance can lower suspect/civilian morale while reducing the amount of stress gained." - This is an interesting read, I wonder if you could force an entire room to surrender by creeping up on it then tossing a bunch of grenades in at once.

[bright valley]

Would be nice if walking's speed decrease didn't stack with leaning's speed decrease.

[earnest storm]

Did another update for ready or not drop today? And does anyone know what this update is improving?

[feral sluice]

idk it just fucking broke my steam

[bright valley]

I dunno, I have no intent to run and gun like it's R6 Siege, but man, RoN's base movement speed is pretty glacial compared to most games, so having to slow that down even further is just painful.

[feral sluice]

just download gunfighter

[earnest storm]

I’ve been using a suspect AI mod to drop the AI difficulty a bit so hopefully this update fixes that some because that’s by far my biggest complaint

[crude prism]

I'm 99.999999999999999999999% sure that the SWAT AI doesn't make perceivable noise like players do

[astral warren]

^ This does seem to be the case, either that or they start a hack vs hack match and begin accurately wallbanging each other despite having never had visual contact. I've had my SWAT AI kill a suspect through not one, but TWO walls before.

[bright valley]

If that's the case, that's unintuitive as hell.

[astral warren]

I didn't even know that the suspect existed and Swan fucking killed his ass.

[hearty parrot]

when the wallbang fights start i just crouch all the way to the floor

[crude prism]

SWAT AI automatically engage suspects that are targeting the player, even if they can't see them

[astral warren]

Me too. It's so scary.

It's like being a human in a squad of T-800s.

[earnest storm]

AI visibility both from Swat and Suspects is absolutely insane

[astral warren]

It's very silly.

[crude prism]

I mean the suspects don't "hear" you moving. It's just making checks based on the distance from you to the suspect and what stance you're in

[astral warren]

Biggest thing with AI that makes them feel like shit is their ability to locate your head from seeing a flash of colour through a crack in a pallet.

Most noticable on postage.

[earnest storm]

YES

[astral warren]

But also on Mindjot because of the little gaps in some of the servers.

literally 1984

[bright valley]

The lack of any simulated target identification contributes to that, I'm sure. Seeing a little bit of movement somewhere might perk your senses up and make you point your gun in that direction, but you typically aren't going to start magdumping until you have enough visibility to know what you're shooting at.

[earnest storm]

I wonder if this update is Hotfix #3 and they just haven’t posted anything about it yet?

[earnest storm]

Agreed

[tough spire]

I mean, if you're a defender it's fair game to magdump foreign moving targets

[bright valley]

Yes and no.

They wouldn't have to worry about an RoE like we do, but they have friendlies they don't want to shoot.

[earnest storm]

Their magdumping is also insanely precise

No way someone is hip firing across the map and hitting me in the head from behind a wall

That’s insane

[crude prism]

Yeah accuracy is probably still too high across the board. Especially while moving :/

[earnest storm]

Yup

[tough spire]

ESPECIALLY moving accuracy 💀

[bright valley]

When we try to aim while walking at our slow base speed our gun goes all over the place, but they can haul ass and laser you down simultaneously lol

[earnest storm]

Yep. It’s also way too easy to get sniped while outside from someone who’s inside that you in no way can see

[crude prism]

Glass and curtains are fun 👍

[tough spire]

That's just realism unfortunately

[earnest storm]

It’s not though. Most suspects we’re going against are civilians that have no business being this alert and precise especially in circumstances where you can’t even see them

[tough spire]

Sniping out a window isn't novel. lol

[earnest storm]

Yeah I’m not saying it is

I’m saying they’re far too accurate and aware

[bright valley]

Would be very cool if amateur suspects would do their run and gun at the cost of completely dogshit accuracy while more trained suspects would visibly slow down to shoot with precision while moving.

[earnest storm]

Agreed

The whole getting sniped out a window is actually ridiculous though because the windows in this game are virtually impossible to see through

[brittle swan]

eyesight issue

[tough spire]

Honestly this

[hasty cosmos]

how am i supposed to know who tf eve nader is

[robust shale]

help

why do i need to patch the game after every update

i have to wait for the entire game to redownload everytime it updates

56gb

[urban walrus]

That's how all UE game works

[robust shale]

really?

dang

[brittle swan]

no it doesnt lmao

[urban walrus]

It's one of the reasons why UE game devs split the game files into small ones so that the patching phase can go faster but this only works to a certain extent

[brittle swan]

you dont need to download the entire game

[hasty cosmos]

the vine map btw

[brittle swan]

its the long haired lady or the red coat lady

[robust shale]

so I have to download a 56gb patch every update

[crude prism]

You're not downloading 56 gigs

[brittle swan]

idk something wrong with ur thing

[hasty cosmos]

oh thanks, but how am i gonna get her to surrender?

[crude prism]

You're downloading the patch that was 800MB and then PATCHING it into the 56 gigs. Not redownloading everything

[robust shale]

Is it because of mods?

[fathom panther]

is there a roadmap for RoN?

[brittle swan]

beanbags, pepperball, non lethal grenades

[urban walrus]

Not yet

[brittle swan]

you can also get the arrest objective if shes unconscious

[urban walrus]

The update can be just 100 MB but if it changes every part of the game, the whole game needs to be extracted to apply the update

[robust shale]

ok it only takes like 10 mins so its not a big deal

[brittle swan]

wow i hate non lethal so much

why am i doing this to myself

[gusty temple]

good question m8. shoot low or shoot limbs if you wanna save lives

[tough spire]

Cos it teaches good habits / masochism

[brittle swan]

i yearn for a real firearm

[robust shale]

I just kill everyone

[gusty temple]

i try my best to save lives, but sometimes i flinch

[brittle swan]

im on the s rank pain

[gusty temple]

yikes. best of luck

[brittle swan]

im missing the fun ones

farm, club, hospital

[astral warren]

Use a UMP45 with JHPs against armoured suspects. You'll need half a mag to drop them, but they won't die, they'll just have all of their ribs broken.

[brittle swan]

that doesnt give me S rank my friend

[tough spire]

If they don't die it sure does. lol

[brittle swan]

uncon only gives 5 no?

[crude prism]

Yeah, no more incap cheesing

[tough spire]

You can get em to surrender without incap like that, is the point I think he's making

That was my experience with the UMP

[brittle swan]

i feel like this might be a bit risky and would get me to immediately alt f4 when that last suspect somehow dies

[plucky escarp]

Is it possible to have AI in multiplayer?

Like bots to fill out a lobby

[umbral oar]

i think ai did make them

[loud whale]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I swear pre 1.0 they fixed valley of the dolls so you weren't having shootouts from the top floor through the windows down into the garden party? Feels like thats back again

[tough spire]

It's a planned feature but not current

[native rune]

I was having those both pre and post 1.0

[limber steppe]

I just finished the game, man was the last mission a roller coaster

[loud whale]

Fair enough, then again this is the first time I've played the map since...pre-1.0

[native rune]

Well now with 1.0 glass gets deleted when it’s shot so arguably top floor fights are now easier than ever

[carmine moon]

tfw still no sdk

[stone bay]

hi

[ivory kiln]

fuck carriers of the vine

i shot a suspect in the chest and somehow they fired off a shot to kill me

and my swat ai somehow didn't see her

[brittle swan]

was never gone

[prime mural]

It's always been like that but now u can shoot back

[loud whale]

True

[loud whale]

Ahh yeah I wondered why it felt different

Didn't even clock on

[fallen lotus]

what are the best graphics to turn down to increase fps a little bit?

[tranquil swallow]

B92x is a sexy pistol

[tight frigate]

running No Mercy For Terrorists is therapeutic on most maps

[brittle swan]

fr

me after doing s rank runs

[hasty cosmos]

guys, i flashed the target suspect, they got down but then immediately picked it up again? wtf?

i died because of that

and like i couldnt kill them either cuz the mission is to apprehend

what is this bs?

[earnest wolf]

they're ridiculously feisty even with 5 guns trained on them

[tired kestrel]

relapse is so fucking hard

[earnest wolf]

could have given him a little taze

[hasty cosmos]

he is too far away

[brittle swan]

shoot them in the non lethal parts of their body to down them

you can still get arrest obj then

[hasty cosmos]

he was hiding behind a desk

i couldnt see his non vitals

[earnest wolf]

you were destined to die

[hasty cosmos]

yeah exactly

thats mission impossible

[tired kestrel]

anyone here beat relapse in commander mode?

[tough spire]

Yeah what's up

[brittle swan]

painfully

[tired kestrel]

which tactic did you use dude, ive been trying to beat this shit for hours

[civic zinc]

i prefer starting from the main entrance and using wedges

[tough spire]

I rush the bombs and go all the way to the other end of the hospital, then slowly wedge my way back every sector I clear. It's a slog

[civic zinc]

you have 30 minutes to defuse the bombs which is plenty of time, at least for me

[tired kestrel]

please dont tell me i have to use wedges

[brittle swan]

i went thru the morgue

[earnest wolf]

wedges are amazing

[brittle swan]

slowly

[tough spire]

You don't have to use wedges. They just help your sanity

[civic zinc]

they arent necessary but they make breaching more consistent

not having to worry about a guy looping round to flank your team is nice

[tired kestrel]

what stun did you use

[civic zinc]

flashbang

[tired kestrel]

like stingers, flashes, gas

[civic zinc]

love the flashbang

cherish it

[tired kestrel]

tbh i only use flash because the anti flash goggles look so good on my operators

[civic zinc]

oh i use the ballistic mask

[tired kestrel]

i got two cosmetic mods installed aswell

so they look extra cool

installing mods in this game is so easy even from external websites

[ancient rapids]

me mentioned

[civic zinc]

relapse is one of my favourite maps for the sole reason that i think clearing several floors of a building is cool, however i get stutters when turning my camera in some areas

i gather the issue is something to do with the occlusion culling trying to load in too much at once

[tired kestrel]

its definitely a fun slideshow

jk but seriously some rooms run like a powerpoint presentation

[brittle swan]

unhinged and insane

[civic zinc]

ive noticed in a few parts of the game that it will get stuck trying to load some asset and tank my frames until it figures out how to load it

[tired kestrel]

i dont know what my favorite map is tbh because all of them are fucking disturbing

[civic zinc]

it happens with the mission table a lot for me

sometimes whenever i look at it, 5fps

solution: simply walk up to the table, stare at the tv and it fixes

[tired kestrel]

yeah void definitely needs to make some optimisation tweaks, definitely the worst thing in the game right now

[civic zinc]

[tired kestrel]

my favorite map is probably neon nightclub just for how well done it is

a shit ton of dead bodies with the disco music in the background

[brittle swan]

neon is going to give me a anyeurism

[civic zinc]

judging by the way ive seen things load in on hospital, my main stutters seem to be with some occlusion culling bugs, and muzzle flash shaders

[brittle swan]

although thats probably owed more to the non lethal attempt

[tired kestrel]

shooting everything > non lethal

especially when the guns in tthis game are sooo good

[tough spire]

Look, when you've beaten the game and need a challenge then S runs exists and you destroy your sanity with them.

[civic zinc]

neon tomb and relapse are my favourite maps in the game just because of the grim setting and challenge

[tough spire]

Repeats Greased Palms S run for the fourth time today...

[tired kestrel]

greased palms sucked

[civic zinc]

turning off the music on neon tomb is a really cool detail

[brittle swan]

yes

[tired kestrel]

wait you can? thats a cool detail

[brittle swan]

my sanity is gone

[civic zinc]

i like the map

[brittle swan]

i hate this

its genuinely unfun

[tired kestrel]

i think its pretty mid

[civic zinc]

it starts playing a similar track to the hospital one, but mostly lets the creepy atmosphere of endlessly ringing phones speak for itself

[tired kestrel]

elephant is also one of my favorites, not because of the gameplay, just because void had the steel balls to make this map

[tough spire]

Actually that Greased run was going great until one of my bots pulled a loaded sidearm. Sooooo my fault.

Not sure how they got ammo. 🙃

[winged hornet]

Quantum mechanics

[tired kestrel]

oh and the ringing phones

[brittle swan]

i wish itd turn off the epilepsy lights aswell

[tired kestrel]

my face looked like the 2000 yard stare in neon nightclub

[civic zinc]

it does actually

[brittle swan]

it does not

[civic zinc]

they stop flashing

[tired kestrel]

wasnt even that difficult i did it on the first try but that shit was so disturbing

[brittle swan]

they do infact continue flashing

[tired kestrel]

whats the most disturbing mission btw?

[tough spire]

Oh. My. God. My shotgunners had a single pistol mag each. How on earth did that slip by me.

[brittle swan]

shotgunners?

[tired kestrel]

imo its valley of the dolls

[blazing eagle]

Hide and Seek probably

[tired kestrel]

i didnt get to that mission yet so dont spoil me

[tough spire]

Yeah I do an A and B man on my two elements and split pepperball and beanbag shotty.

[tired kestrel]

but its definitely not worse than valley of the dolls thats for sure

[brittle swan]

a gambling man i see

[brittle swan]

eh

[tough spire]

Ngl I think it's better than doing all one of either

[brittle swan]

similar level

[tired kestrel]

hope its not cp agian

[brittle swan]

i dont do beanbags on ai cause sometimes they headshot suspects

[tired kestrel]

void carefully adding cp to half the maps in the game:

[tough spire]

yeeeaaaah that is def. the gamble I'm taking here.

[brittle swan]

which trust me, is incredibly painful do happen at the end of a s run

[civic zinc]

hide and seek, the spider, neon tomb

[tired kestrel]

not valley of the dolls?

[ancient rapids]

valley of the dolls obv

[tired kestrel]

dude i physically recoiled when i reached that basement

[civic zinc]

that one is good for how it pulls one over on the player

[tired kestrel]

mine is valley of the dolls in first place, neon tomb second, the spider third

[brittle swan]

eh neon tomb isnt that disturbing

[civic zinc]

valley is an excellent example of my favourite kind of horror, where it begins more light-hearted and builds up to a grim/tense moment

[brittle swan]

valley, port, spider ngl

[tired kestrel]

just because of the ringing phones

[brittle swan]

maybe ive gotten numb to it just due to the large amounts of s rank attempts on it

[tranquil swallow]

do you prefer lethal or non-lethal

[brittle swan]

lethal 100%

[tired kestrel]

but for the first time man

[brittle swan]

i hate non lethal in a passion

[civic zinc]

also the raspy breathing of npcs who arent able to be reported as incapacitated, implying that they are beyond help but still technically alive

[brittle swan]

yeah

i remember in the first version of neon tomb

you could report like.. every single body

except the piles

[tranquil swallow]

does anyone ever go lethal on civs for fun?

[tough spire]

That sucked.

[civic zinc]

a few times

[brittle swan]

and pre 1.0 you could shoot every single body lying around except the piles to get free 5 points

[tired kestrel]

void cooked with this map

[brittle swan]

atfer completing particularly frustrating s rank maps

i definitely did a few kill all runs after greased palms

[tired kestrel]

not yet, im sure ill reach that point tho after a few more failed relapse runs

[tranquil swallow]

@brittle swan how is your sanity after S ranking all maps

[brittle swan]

oh lord im not close

im missing shit like farm, club, hospital

[tired kestrel]

hospital must be hell

[brittle swan]

and im at 13/18 rn i think

[civic zinc]

the swat officer 1000 yard stare should be an emoji on this server

[brittle swan]

hospital on the ironman run without officer deaths was already bad enough

[tired kestrel]

you did that???

[civic zinc]

cant wait to do hanged man

[brittle swan]

horrifyingly yes

[brittle swan]

i have not had the mental composure to attempt this one yet

[tired kestrel]

respect for your dedication 🫡

[tough spire]

I have given up on Hanged Man without cheating it with mods.

[tired kestrel]

i wouldve broken my monitor

[remote flame]

iron man run - S tier all maps

[tired kestrel]

whats hanged man?

[brittle swan]

port with only taser and flashbangs

[civic zinc]

i was actually planning on S ranking every map, hanged man on the port so i dont have to do it twice before i do the ironman run

[tired kestrel]

oh

[brittle swan]

i would rather beat my balls for hours

[tough spire]

Hanged Man and Hermit are just... no.

[remote flame]

College run is bugged for S tier at least for me - auto ended but nly gave an A+

[civic zinc]

the hermit achievement is something i can see myself getting relatively easily

[brittle swan]

prolly killed a suspect

[civic zinc]

you gotta do it without a single incap civvie

[tired kestrel]

yeah, i only do challenges if they are fun

[civic zinc]

so be quick :>>>>>

[remote flame]

hmm said everyone survived, someone must have shot their friendly enemy lol

[brittle swan]

hermit is the ironman with no officer deaths or resigns no?

[civic zinc]

yeah

its just trial and error with the missions themselves

[brittle swan]

its painful but atleast you can use lethal force

[hearty parrot]

hermit wasnt bad

[civic zinc]

S ranking gas station if they get too stressed

[remote flame]

after S tier ill know all the way to run maps but my god thats going to be impossible lol

[hearty parrot]

keep them at content at all times

[left cape]

is there a way to turn off the lights in the shooting range

[brittle swan]

no

[hearty parrot]

turning off your monitor seems to fix it

[tired kestrel]

smart

[left cape]

bruh

[brittle swan]

yeah hermit isnt the worst thing, just really annoying with some maps

s rank on the other hand

[tired kestrel]

like relapse

[brittle swan]

yeah

[tired kestrel]

is hide and seek harder than relapse/

?

[civic zinc]

my strat for hermit is simple
dont be stupid (extremely difficult for me)
S rank the gas station if an officer is too stressed

[hearty parrot]

there are two types of people who unlock hermit: those who are 100%-ing the game (me) and those who micromanage their swat team to no fucking end

[brittle swan]

na

[remote flame]

currnelty on Rust Belt S tier - they keep ruinning through doors without executing orders IDK how anyone could complete ironman with buggy ai

[hearty parrot]

my good ol' friend alt+f4

[tired kestrel]

people told me carriers of the vine was the hardest mission in the game, i did it second try

[timid acorn]

this is gonna be my 134 try at greased palms

[civic zinc]

its more open
relapse is longer and i think has more enemies, but hide and seek has longer sightlines and more open areas

[brittle swan]

carriers is painful

[tired kestrel]

but i cant beat relapse ffs

[remote flame]

sure have lol ez fix

[tired kestrel]

it wasnt that bad tbh

[brittle swan]

its def one of the harder ones

[timid acorn]

im gonna snap

[tired kestrel]

i expected something way worse

[hearty parrot]

if you get an F rank you still unlock the next mission

[brittle swan]

i feel you friend

[timid acorn]

nah im going s or goin home

[remote flame]

took me 20 tries for S tier u gots lucky lol

[tired kestrel]

on S?

[brittle swan]

guess you got lucky lmao

[civic zinc]

relapse is just a challenge of being slow and steady, abusing wedges all the way to the finish line

[tired kestrel]

i wasnt doing an S tier im just doin a playthrough, got B at the end

[hearty parrot]

Had the most trouble getting S on neon tomb and carriers

[brittle swan]

bruh that shit took me like 30 tries lethally

[tired kestrel]

pure skill brother

[remote flame]

yeah lethal is ez

[brittle swan]

im dreading relapse

[timid acorn]

no attempts

[hearty parrot]

relapse wasnt too bad

[brittle swan]

although tomb is horrible enough

[hearty parrot]

tight corridors are great for pepperguns

[timid acorn]

i fuckin suck

[tired kestrel]

reaching the last room and crashing:

[hearty parrot]

simply buy a stronger computer

[remote flame]

you can shoot near npcs to engage the pepper effect but someon hate giving up then you run out of ammo, goes to shit realll quick

[tired kestrel]

how about void fixes optimization instead of adding an anime tattoo

[hearty parrot]

cant lie that anime tattoo is peak

[tired kestrel]

ok i agree

[tough spire]

implying the optimization developers are also the graphic designers

[tired kestrel]

sadly im wearing a long sleeve

[remote flame]

optimization HA its been a year and can barely run this game with an 8 core - 1080ti xD

[brittle swan]

currently rocking the greased palm tatoo after beating that shit

[hearty parrot]

The women on my arm are telling me to shoot civilians

If there were a woman officer I would so rock the carrier of the vine tattoo

[stone bay]

That happened to me on Twisted Nerve. Kicked in a door, ran out of pepperballs, realized I was out of ltl mags and magdumped the last suspect with my Glock.

[tough spire]

That's old gear at this point

[remote flame]

user tazer lol

[tired kestrel]

i got a nvidia geforce gtx 1660 super i dont know how good it is because i dont understand computers that much but i have it for 4 years and its still standing

[remote flame]

well aware - 1080p still chugs and it should not

[brittle swan]

arent those coming eventually

[buoyant narwhal]

Is there a strategy for greased palms, even my ai teammates keep dying

[hearty parrot]

i dont want it later i want it now

ik theyre coming im just impatient

[brittle swan]

slowly, carefully

[civic zinc]

i get stutters when it loads a muzzle flash shader for the first time

[tired kestrel]

1945

[civic zinc]

[brittle swan]

i ended up just keep rushing through the front entrance and yeeting gas into that back area with the fisa office

[tired kestrel]

(gas)

[brittle swan]

wasnt worth the time effort to keep going around first

[hearty parrot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3169

[tough spire]

Optimization can only do so much for hardware bottleneck

[tired kestrel]

gas and shields basically solve everything

[fiery flame]

some crackhead just nailed 3 of my guys in the head

[tired kestrel]

welcome to ready or not

[hearty parrot]

mfw the reccomended gpu on the store page is a 1060

mfw the reccomended ram is 8GB

[tough spire]

Yeah that's clearly wrong.

[tired kestrel]

my pc can run rdr2 on ultra graphics but cant run this

[tough spire]

It may have been true when they first listed, but it's not now.

[hearty parrot]

mfw the reccomended processor is an intel i6-7600K

[tired jungle]

how the fuck is the ai so bad

[hearty parrot]

its not the gpu that is the bottleneck its the fucking game

[tired kestrel]

skill issue

[tired kestrel]

yeah thats the thing

[tired jungle]

the ai sucks

skill issue or not

[tired kestrel]

gas and shields solve the problem

[tough spire]

Watch where your hardware is bottlenecking. Might be your CPU

[hearty parrot]

I had to do black magic to get 60FPS with my 3060 and i7-12700K

[tired kestrel]

tbh, ive been getting some cpu overheating warnings for about a year now but i ignore them because idgaf

[hearty parrot]

Its the game

Dont even use ultra

i dont see a difference between high and ultra

[tired kestrel]

i use medium

[tough spire]

I never drop below 120 so trying to help with perspective here.

[tired kestrel]

even in relapse?

do you have a nasa pc?

[tired jungle]

i don't wanna use a shield

[tired kestrel]

so use gas its good enough

and give your squad members shield

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[hearty parrot]

if their gun is raised you can shoot them it doesnt break RoE

[hearty parrot]

why use motion blur its only good for 30fps games

[tired kestrel]

if the gun isnt raised shoot them if the gun doesnt exist shoot them

[tired kestrel]

tbh, white girl music is the best tactic

[stone bay]

This is how you Ready or Not

[tough spire]

I didn't even realize it was on to be honest. You don't even notice it at this framerate.

[tired jungle]

the peeps are trying to shoot me thru solid walls

[hearty parrot]

motion blur mostly exists to hide screen tearing in games that are locked to 30fps

[tough spire]

I've been running default recommended graphic settings and never adjusted it 🙃

[tired kestrel]

shoot them back then

[tired kestrel]

george do you work at nasa and you are secretly playing ready or not

[hearty parrot]

nah he probs just has some good hardware

[tough spire]

NASA has garbage computers

But no.

[hearty parrot]

3090Ti is a good graphics card

[tired kestrel]

i dont think nasa computers can run ready or not in epic

[hearty parrot]

3060 still is amazing for its price though

[tough spire]

No, because NASA gear is famously bad. lol

[tired kestrel]

is it?

[tough spire]

Yeah. Unless they've updated in the past 5 years or so.

[tired kestrel]

mine is nvidia geforce gtx 1660 super i have no fucking idea how good it is but it works (i have it for 4 years)

[tough spire]

A lot of military and such gear is like, ancient retrofitted stuff they're squeezing the last life out of.

[hearty parrot]

it aint too bad

[hearty parrot]

yeah i dont reccomend buying military surplus stuff

unless its NVGs then buy it

[tired kestrel]

depends on which military

[hearty parrot]

you dont think every military tries to not spend money where its not needed?

[tired kestrel]

gear is needed tho

[hearty parrot]

if it aint broke it dont need replacing

[tough spire]

That's the thing, though, most military application of processing power doesn't require latest gen gear.

Gamers are far far more antsy about their hardware specs than like anyone else.

With the exception of graphic designers.

[tired kestrel]

what gear are we talking about

[tough spire]

Computers

[tired kestrel]

ah

yeah that makes sense\

[tight frigate]

lethal

[tired kestrel]

who the hell prefers non lethal

[hearty parrot]

me

READ THE SIGN

[tired kestrel]

you should be placed in therapy

[bright valley]

That's ironic

[hearty parrot]

WE ARE HERE TO RESTORE ORDER TO CHAOS NOT CREATE WIDOWS AND ORPHANS

[tough spire]

Create windows and oranges.

[hearty parrot]

Kill everyone on the scene

[tired kestrel]

OUR JOB IS NOT TO MAKE WIDOWS AND ORPHANS
OUR JOB IS TO BRING ORDER TO CHAOS

[cobalt sequoia]

Does anybody else feel like elephant map is kinda empty

[hearty parrot]

how you think that momma orange is gonna feel when she learns that her son got no mo' pulp

[cobalt sequoia]

They should make it more like pulse

ringing cellphones, distant bursts of shots, etc.

[tough spire]

Juiced

[hearty parrot]

my school shooting mission needs more dead students

[cobalt sequoia]

yeah

[tired kestrel]

fr, i found it too unrealistic

[cobalt sequoia]

its more like

the dudes came and took hostages

[ruby talon]

need civvies running away

[tired kestrel]

neon tomb was executed way better imo

[tough spire]

It's a billion times easier to flee that school and 3 shooters than it would be the night club and a small army

[cobalt sequoia]

yeah

[tired kestrel]

ringing phones, a shit ton of dead bodies, the music playing in the background

such a good mission

[stone bay]

Neon Tomb is the best mission ye

[cobalt sequoia]

elephant needs more stuff, be it anything

[ruby talon]

for that mission compliance yells should default to run to exit commands

[bright valley]

The lack of theatrics in Elephant is intentional.

[tired kestrel]

neon tomb had me looking like the 1000 yard stare soldier, elephant just had me suprised the devs had the balls to make this mission

[hearty parrot]

empty hallways are more realistic, the bodys would more likely be in classrooms

[zenith trench]

i just shot a man TWICE in the chest with a 12 gauge slug and he just went "ooof owww owieee. my bones. owwww that hurteddd" and LIVED

[hearty parrot]

as they already are

[tired kestrel]

power of meth heads

[hearty parrot]

suspects on the elephant with level 4 armor be like

[crude prism]

Ah see you made the mistake of shooting at one of the 8 suspects in the whole game that can block 12g slugs

[cobalt sequoia]

I wouldnt be surprised if on park homes you shotgun a guy's head off and he keeps coming at you

[tired kestrel]

most realistic part in the mission fr

[tough spire]

If I was an FBI agent I'd 100% lurk this discord and start flagging some of the people here for surveillance.

[zenith trench]

it was a terrorist from TLB

[gentle anchor]

anyone know if there's an easy way to see what my best rank is on each map? (commander mode)

[hearty parrot]

id be a great cop. so many ideas i could bring to the force

[tired kestrel]

@hearty parrot is definitely a fed, he said he prefers non lethal over lethal

[zenith trench]

hotel mission in specific. How the fuck did they hide level III++ plates under that shirt and tie

[hearty parrot]

Am not a fed i want to hit suspects and civilians with cattle prods and billy clubs

[tired kestrel]

yeah too late buddy your busted

[cobalt sequoia]

is it true void uses AI for many of their textures and stuff

[zenith trench]

IT HAPPENED AGAIN
THREE SHOTS WITH A SLUG SHOTGUN AND THEN HE LIVED

[cobalt sequoia]

shoot in head bro

[tired kestrel]

skill issue

[crude prism]

They're just real toned underneath, no armor

[hearty parrot]

shots 1-3 clear misses

[zenith trench]

IF i WANTED TO HIT 'EM IN THE HEAD I'D'A BROUGHT SHOTSHELLS

[cobalt sequoia]

bro

[tired kestrel]

shotshelsl

[tough spire]

Shotshells 😂

[bright valley]

Isn't OSINT a wonderful thing?

[tired kestrel]

osint?

[cobalt sequoia]

if you put a hole through their frontal and occipital lobe they cant THINK to stay alive

just shoot in head

[hearty parrot]

finally something i fit into

[cobalt sequoia]

Open-source intelligence

[zenith trench]

if I wanted to shoot them in the head I would have brought 00 buck
I brought slugs

[tired kestrel]

ah

thanks

[zenith trench]

buckshot = more pellets = more likely one hits their head
slug = lots of force = dead to body

[tired kestrel]

slugs are more accurate tho

[hearty parrot]

mfw the ricin tutorial on the walls are real in lethal obsession

[cobalt sequoia]

clearly slug aint working for you

[zenith trench]

it happened again except this time he went down

[tired kestrel]

yeah i think you need an automatic rifle

[zenith trench]

I know the issue, I'm using an italian shotgun. I need to be using the 870

some REAL american muscle

[hearty parrot]

dont you DARE diss the supernova

[tired kestrel]

something like an arwc, g36c, or f90

[tired kestrel]

mid tbh

[zenith trench]

tried it with SR16, FAL and SLR47

[hearty parrot]

as an italian i am by law required to defend the supernova

[tough spire]

Supernova is objectively the worst shotgun in the game, it's AWESOME.

[tired kestrel]

do one of my recommendations

[zenith trench]

Why those, they're all generic 5.56

legitimately I do not see the purpose of them, I'd maybe use the F90 for barrel length and allat but the SR16 exists and is cooler

[hearty parrot]

if you want to kill a suspect use the SA-58 trust me the 7.62 will rip into them

[zenith trench]

SLR47, small profile and big bullet
FAL/SA-58, big bullet

[tired kestrel]

low recoil

[hearty parrot]

7.62AP hehe

[tough spire]

7.62 is for people with aim who don't like having to shoot twice.

[hearty parrot]

well you see this can apply to everyone if you aim for head

[civic zinc]

you know i intended to start an ironman run but ive spent the last half hour customizing the swat ai outfits

[tired kestrel]

if you want 7.62 go for SA-58 ig

[stone bay]

I feel that

[tough spire]

Just wait til you change their outfit every time you start over like I do

[zenith trench]

I prefer the SLR47, it's more controllable than the SA58 and all around feels better

[hearty parrot]

normalize defusing bombs despite not being an EOD

[tired kestrel]

eh

i mean, doesnt really matter

[tough spire]

AK platform in my murrica police unit?

[hearty parrot]

i would uninstall if they add a bullpup

[crude prism]

SLR feels like ass to me since the 1.0 changes to it

[tired kestrel]

everyone using an AK mod is a commie

[tough spire]

There already is a bullpup

[hearty parrot]

noted

brb vomiting

[zenith trench]

no, no, that's not bad enough. Heckler-Koch weapon in my American police unit??

[hearty parrot]

they get a pass

[tough spire]

Everyone loves HK tho.

[hearty parrot]

they made the mp5 they get a pass

[zenith trench]

yeah, they expensive as shit and don't like to sell to Americans

[tough spire]

They're one of the most influential weapons manufacturers of all time.

[zenith trench]

I don't know if I'd use the word influential

[civic zinc]

i have created an outfit which is very grey and (in my opinion) looks sick

[tough spire]

Then you don't know your history 🙃

[hearty parrot]

why no m14 void

[tired kestrel]

might switch my ARWC to SA-58 for some variety

[civic zinc]

reminds me of the gensec swat in payday 2

[tough spire]

Be VERY careful with that. I did that once and ended up having a bunch of friendly fire incidents on Mindjot 😂

[zenith trench]

Enlighten me then. What did they do that was more influental than PPM's 1898 bolt, or Eugene Stoner's creation?

[civic zinc]

we LOVE friendly fire

[zenith trench]

What makes them so influential?

[hearty parrot]

use a musket like the founding fathers intended

[tired kestrel]

F90:

[tough spire]

I said one of the most. Not going to engage a shifting goal post so you can feel superior about your niche.

[civic zinc]

g36 looks cool tho

[hearty parrot]

i literally wiped it from my memory thats how much i hate bullpups

[zenith trench]

Mate can you please just tell me what they did that makes them influential

[tired kestrel]

wait i think i just found a cheat code

use SA-58 on all your squad members cuz they got perfect accuracy

[zenith trench]

I'll drop my "But they didn't do THIS! OR THIS!" if you can tell me what they did to become so influential

[hearty parrot]

wait until you learn how to look through walls

[tough spire]

There's this great thing called Google and YouTube if you really need it, but I already know you're not arguing in good faith.

[tired kestrel]

is this actually functional?

[zenith trench]

so I'm gonna write you off as "made a claim with no information to back it up" and you are now strawmanning to avoid having to do the work

[prime wing]

Move on

[tired kestrel]

sloppenhiemer

[zenith trench]

is the movie they show in Sins of the Father public domain

[hearty parrot]

if i could post the image of quagmire with a dropped jaw all the way to the floor i would

[zenith trench]

wait a second IS THAT THE NAKED GUN

[tired kestrel]

i need an answer for this

[hearty parrot]

the video thats in the files is like a 2 minute long video that loops

i would know i replaced it with shrek

[tired kestrel]

they should add a mod for that

[hearty parrot]

why not just do it yourself

[zenith trench]

can I replace it with literally anything

because I can, and I will, upload the entirety of 2001: A Space Odyssey and watch it

[hearty parrot]

probably, just name it to the same as the og file

[tired kestrel]

i cant code for shit

[hearty parrot]

no coding needed, just swap two files

[tired kestrel]

oh

now how do i download shrek

[hearty parrot]

idk

[dapper inlet]

guys, are the updates copying so much data on ur pcs too? Cuz for me its 800mb to download and then i have to copy 40+ gb

[tired kestrel]

without getting a trojan horse

[zenith trench]

AW COME ON I WAS SO CLOSE

I need to bring more flashbangs, 6 ain't enough

[tired kestrel]

yeah thats a patch

it patches your game

[hearty parrot]

its just validating 50GB of files

[dapper inlet]

no shit, but other games copy less data

[dapper inlet]

taking 3h :(

[tired kestrel]

took me 10 minutes

[hearty parrot]

Slow internet moment

[tired kestrel]

just get a faster internet

[dapper inlet]

nuhh

[hearty parrot]

if it makes you feel better nothing was added

[zenith trench]

steam says that shit, just give it a second

best I figure is that it recognizes "Oh I need to do stuff to 56 gigabytes worth of files" and computes the time to download everything
but it only downloads, a gig worth of content and then distributes it

[dapper inlet]

internet isnt the problem, i habe 10mbs download rate, my drive is just not on the speed it should be, how can i fix that

[hearty parrot]

hammer

[zenith trench]

ssd

[hearty parrot]

throw magnets at your computer

[tough spire]

m.2's are all the rage right now

[dapper inlet]

i got a m.2

[zenith trench]

legitimately though I don't think there's a way to fix a slow hard dri- well

[tired kestrel]

10?

[dapper inlet]

yes

[tired kestrel]

i got around 100

[hearty parrot]

mfw i crippled an entire governments military system with a singular magnet

[dapper inlet]

mbits or mbs??

[tired kestrel]

mbs

[dapper inlet]

cuz i got 100mbits too

[tired kestrel]

oh wait, my bad

[zenith trench]

the Left Behind keep shrugging off my 12g slugs like it's nothing
I need start room clearing with a Kord for god's sake

[hearty parrot]

my computer knows that if it displays Kbs itll be destroyed so it only downloads in Mbs

[tired kestrel]

you meant megabytes per second?

[tough spire]

Oh snap has anyone else figured out the shield door glitch? You can totally open the door fully with your shield up though it says you cannot

[dapper inlet]

megabytes

[tired kestrel]

per second?

mbps?

[dapper inlet]

obviouslyi would prolly kms if that were mbits

o r kbits

[tired kestrel]

whats your mbps

just say that

[tired kestrel]

wait how

[dapper inlet]

mbs =mbps

[tough spire]

I'm trying to get it consistent but basically if you walk at the door and are mashing F as you approach the prompt it'll let you do it anyway

[tired kestrel]

oh, my mbs is 100 then

around 100

[tired kestrel]

thanks, ill absolutely abuse this

[zenith trench]

am I alone in having the syndrome of, after completing a mission lethal, I immedaitely think "Oh that wouldn't be so hard to do less-than-lethal"

[dapper inlet]

MB/s

[tired kestrel]

YEAH 100 MEGABYTES PER SECOND

[dapper inlet]

hell bro

u livin alone or sum

[tired kestrel]

im in a 4 people household but none of them use computers

[dapper inlet]

explains a lot

[tired kestrel]

and i got an ethernet cable

[dapper inlet]

w

[tired kestrel]

fr

[dapper inlet]

where ya from

[tired kestrel]

south pacific ocean

[dapper inlet]

fuckkk

german internet is just ass i guess

[tired kestrel]

you got an ethernet cable?

[dapper inlet]

yuh

im doing the best i canbut fucking vodafon is sabotaging fr

[tired kestrel]

i think you just need a better provider or something because 10 mbps is terrible

probably took you 20 hours to download ready or not

[dapper inlet]

germanys wifi and internet distribution in general is under average#

[tough spire]

Following up on this, if you're super fast you can go from door peek to full open somewhat consistently

[dapper inlet]

1:15 tbh

[tired kestrel]

so it takes you longer to download a patch than to download the whole game

[dapper inlet]

yes

cuz the copying sucks

[tired kestrel]

did your internet get worse overtime? lol

[dapper inlet]

i have reinstalled ready or not like thrice in the last 2 months

[dapper inlet]

NOPE IT IS THE COPYING, ITS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERNET

[tired kestrel]

thats an odd problem

do you seriously have 10 mbps tho? thats insane

[dapper inlet]

thats whaAt im saying

A MB per second (MB/s) is a non-standard unit for network throughput,

[tired kestrel]

look up speedtest.net its a mbps test

i refuse to believe you got 10 mbps

with a cable

[dapper inlet]

228mbps

just checked

[tired kestrel]

228 is great

[dapper inlet]

i was talikng abut mbs the whole time

[tired kestrel]

you said mbs = mbps i guess it was a confusion

[earnest storm]

It’s insane how broken this game is

[dapper inlet]

true

[tired kestrel]

i guess its a problem with steam and not a problem with your internet

because 228 is insanely good

[dapper inlet]

but thats why i am so shocked bout the patches taking so long

[tired kestrel]

how is it broken

[tired kestrel]

yeah, problem with steam imo

[dapper inlet]

ik

fucking helll

[earnest storm]

Suspects being way too accurate and bullets going through cement walls but not curtains

[tired kestrel]

why does everyone complain about suspects being cracked like the game is a tactical shooter you need to subdue them your not supposed to go in guns blazing

[earnest storm]

Also really inconsistent hit boxes

[tired kestrel]

but, im sure they will get nerfed in the near future

[earnest storm]

Yeah no it’s a real problem with suspects being way too precise lol

[tough spire]

Because a shocking number of people play this like CoD and then get upset that their tactics aren't working.

Then they use AI mods to make it easier.

[tired kestrel]

never had a problem with that, also the cement walls thing im sure it will get fixed in a future patch

[crude prism]

If you think hitboxes are bad now, imagine back when there was no latency compensation before 1.0 💀

[tired kestrel]

not a huge problem for me tho

[earnest storm]

lol yeah

[tough spire]

There are some reaction time/accuracy issues (which are apparently being worked on now) but it's not awful. Smart play usually beats it.

[earnest storm]

A lot still needs to be fixed with this game

[tired kestrel]

yeah 2 mods can make this from a tactical shooter into a shooter agianst bots lol

[tired kestrel]

yeah just get good

this game needs a pvp gamemode man

badly

[crude prism]

Good thing there's like 6 of them already and you can access with mods

[tired kestrel]

like an official one

[tough spire]

I genuinely think if folks had the opportunity to play against other humans they'd be less shocked at tactics the AI are using.

[tired kestrel]

yeah, and im sure a pvp gamemode wont be too hard to create

if i was void my next update would be optimisation and then pvp

[crude prism]

People disrespecting doorways/corners/defender advantage are gonna get schwacked

[tough spire]

Absolutely.

[crude prism]

Unless they make all the maps out of stone/metal I can see a serious problem being wallbanging EVERYTHING

[tired kestrel]

in this game you gotta respect every turn because every enemy is john wick

which i like because it adds alot of stress

[tough spire]

Humans will keyhole you, they'll abuse light/darkness advantages, they'll listen for you on the other side of a thin wall and light you up through it, they'll snipe you out windows you can't see them through (all things I've seen people complain about the AI doing here)

[tired kestrel]

depends on which human

some just go in brainless

[tough spire]

I mean, sure. But humans will also be far more devious than just those things, but that's just things the AI do.

[tired kestrel]

cheats 💀

[crude prism]

I don't even want to think about how RoN is gonna verify fair multiplayer experience lul

[tired kestrel]

i think its going to be a mess at the beggining but definitely a fun mess

[tough spire]

There's no way to make this a fair PvP experience because it's inherently an imbalanced scenario.

[tired kestrel]

also, shotguns are gonna be OP in pvp

for obvious reasons

[tough spire]

We're in aysmmetrical warfare, bois.

[tired kestrel]

and shields

they definitely need to remove shields for pvp

[tough spire]

Just watch how R6S went. The balancing on that game is largely an equipment creep similar to a literal cartoon in escalation.

[prime wing]

Full auto fal and everyone is gonna fold

[tough spire]

I mean go for it. I'll hide behind hard cover until you run those tiny mags dry.

[prime wing]

we dont even have servers yet, i think we are far from a pvp option.

like

years away

[tough spire]

Figuring out compelling RoE fairness alone would be very difficult

[tired kestrel]

aw that sucks

[prime wing]

Game has been built and rebuilt time after time, this is the most stable it has been. It is not finished yet. I dont see how PVP happens at this rate

[tough spire]

How do the bad guys score so that they can't just intentionally screw up the match? Would the winning team be the one with the highest score at the end? Would it just be tedium TDM?

Lots of things to figure out for a later time

[tired kestrel]

they should definitely make it something completely unique

or maybe different gamemodes

like bomb defusal, deathmatch and such

on relapse or something

with RoNs equipment that would be so fun

[tough spire]

Ground Branch has awesome PvP if you can get folks together for it. Also highlights a lot of what I'm talking about when I say how human people will take tactical advantages over you that are decently modelled in this.

[shrewd oriole]

Okay, cool dev breifing but when a civ surrenders they become completely silent unless you shoot wildly.

[amber dock]

Civis have no brains currently

[shrewd oriole]

A better fix would trailers coming on after you bring order to chaos and restraining civvies, grabbing evidence, and carrying people out. Perhaps even dragging out injured swat and suspects

It'd greatly improve the flow of missions and make for good world building.

[tough spire]

They did that at like the release of 1.0 or something and then stopped for some reason

[shrewd oriole]

And not just in practice, this time.

[tired kestrel]

doesnt make much sense to me

[tough spire]

Oh is it only in practice mode?

[native rune]

“Oh and btw guys if you didn’t know, being loud makes enemies alert so don’t be loud but also be loud sometimes otherwise they won’t surrender ”

[shrewd oriole]

Both multi-player and single player should have trailers.

[shrewd oriole]

How tho?

[tired kestrel]

makes more sense they would clear civilians after the swat finish the mission

[shrewd oriole]

Swats mission is to rescue civvies and bring order to chaos, but wondering around looking for civvies isn't fun

[tough spire]

Once the hostile threat is over it makes sense

[tired kestrel]

its definitely realistic tho

[tired kestrel]

idk seems kinda wierd to me, especially on maps like sins of a father like how would they even go in

[shrewd oriole]

Roof top

[tough spire]

To be frank deployment on some of these maps just isn't realistic in the slightest regardless.

and/or wouldn't be SWAT

[ivory kiln]

everyone saying the lspd is underfunded

they're undermanned not underfunded

[tired kestrel]

true how tf they got so many weapons

and gear

[tough spire]

This definitely would make more sense given the gameplay

[tired kestrel]

whats yalls swat outfit?

[shrewd oriole]

Tan

[ivory kiln]

same

with rolled up sleeves for my tats and watch

[shrewd oriole]

The gx combat shirt in basic tan with the combat pants (knee pad), tan

And the tan helmet

[ivory kiln]

i'm thinking of using long sleeves

idk why it looks cooler

[tired kestrel]

i got two cosmetic mods installed: FBI HRT outfit and balaclavas

[tough spire]

Umbrella Corp Chic for my LTL team, USMC for my current Ironman team, MultiCam/OCP for my anything-goes team.

[shrewd oriole]

Nahhhh it's ugly you tweaking

[tired kestrel]

makes for a really cool fit

[bright valley]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tired kestrel]

oh thats nice

[ivory kiln]

the 416 mk18 sa58 i don't swat have access to such weapons

[prime mural]

Everybody wearing tshirts and stuff theyd be wearing off duty

[tired kestrel]

its in media if anyone wants to know

[ivory kiln]

i prefer on duty uniforms

[prime mural]

Idk I like that on call aesthetic

[tired kestrel]

i was wearing a short sleeve black camo shirt before using mods

[prime mural]

The full tacticool squad vs 5 dudes called in when they were at a party

[molten totem]

Have there been any changes to AI? Getting instantly wall banged significantly more tonight...

[tough spire]

Move quieter near threatened walls/thresholds

[tired kestrel]

this is my multiplayer fit with black pants and helmet and the anime tattoo because ofc

my singleplayer fit is serious but my multiplayer fit is goofy

[shrewd oriole]

That is disgusting

Ngl

[bright valley]

“Congratulations, you are being rescued! Please do not resist.”

[tired kestrel]

i would run away from that dude

[bright valley]

also you gotta love that bit of the wristband that clips into the wrist

[tired kestrel]

all he needs is the anime tattoo and its golden

[ivory kiln]

the lspd needs to invest in a super soldier program

bruh i accidentally wallbanged and killed a civvie hip firing

one shotted her

[tough spire]

Proud of youuu

[ivory kiln]

ty

i'm amazed by this

[kindred maple]

why does this game take ages to update

[gusty temple]

steam and ue

[tight frigate]

late to the party but mixpat & ranger green

[neon stream]

i keep getting 'cant find a game with acceptable ping' on EU servers. Is is too late or is my thing bugged?

[hearty harness]

am i getting shot through my shield through closed doors or am i losing it? its happened 3 times in 1 play session

[craggy ridge]

Maybe you’re getting hit from somewhere else

[ivory kiln]

fuck carriers of the vine

you guys got any tips

[stone bay]

Pepperballs and CS got me through that level with a B