#Game won't launch after NT update (WORKAROUND FOUND)
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Now if only I didn't have to work and continue delaying my instant gratification
My hope is that Nexon is actually aware of the issue and is working to fix the problem. Prayge. Sent in a support ticket earlier already. Workaround solution is working for me atm.
Yeah the core issue definitely needs to be addressed, just glad we found a workaround as well.
Meow meow just woke up in time for some dailies 🙂
The workaround solution was shared to the CMs right?
Should help with figuring out why it’s broken lmaoo
game won't launch , is there a solution for this yet ?
make it administrator
waiting for them to go online
i can do it now if u think its better
If they see their ping when they got pinged with the solution, should be okay?
@crystal pumice @silver ravine a temporary work around was found if you could please foward it to whatever team needs to see it to hopefully gain some insight into how to fix the issue on your end
TEMPORARY FIX
here are some temporary bandaid fixes that seem to work for the the majority of players, hopefully this helps you guys find the root issue. (people assume is related to NGS not booting but no concrete proof)
BOTH SOLUTIONS SHOULD WORK (EFFECTIVELY THE SAME THING DIFFERENT METHODS)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/1n2a5kt/maplestory_not_loading_after_update_solution/
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TLDR make a 2nd windows account with a password and make it admin, then run steam via new user
2k messages now 😂
Copium, that Nexon fixes it and comps those accounts that were affected

Most of the ppl here went to bed so prolly waking up soon to finally being able to play again

Reinstalled the game after removing all the registry references to Nexon, removing programdata\nexon, and removing related appdata folders. Still doesn't work which is wild to me
I did find out that doing the workaround with no NGS folder only generates the blackcat1.sys file and not the others I've seen so that's odd
For those that don't want to bother with alt+shift click or shift+right click every time add this to the Nexon Launcher shortcut
when am i suppose to do shift+alt? nothing happens when i launch steam when i hold it
how does this work with exitlag?
smh, I can't play lmfao.
it's ALT + SHIFT, run as diff user, maple2
alt + sshift RIGHT click
how do i avoid redonwloading from the client again>
- Find the shortcut
- Open properties
- Add "runas /user:[username] " in front of that's already there. Copy without the quotation marks, and change [username] to whatever you set your secondary user as.
- Mine reads
runas /user:Maple2 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Nexon\Nexon Launcher\nexon_launcher.exe" - Click Apply
- Run Nexon Launcher using the shortcut. A CMD window asking you for the password to the account will pop up
- Enter password, press Enter.
- Proceed as normal
it wont redownload, in my cassse i downladed maple in the default locaation, if you press download and go through with it, it wont redownload the whole thing
Is it different for steam?
it'll just verify the files are there
If you're on nexon launcher, let the download go for a few seconds, then pause + cancel it. Go over to the folder where it's trying to install the game. Copy the "old" game files into the "new" folder. Launcher will show "Update" at this point. Clicking "Update will verify game files and it'll change into "Play"
eh it redonwloaded for me cuz i dont have mine in cdrive
just point it to where you have maple downloaded then
ahh ok thank you!
It's got this weird thing going on where if you point it to where you installed maple, it'll create a second maplestory foler INSIDE that folder and try to redownload lol
so if I installed to G:\Maplestory it'll try to redownload to G:\Maplestory\maplestory
Just remember to move it back when this gets fixed and we don't have to do this second account any more lol
tf lol
It should be the same for steam. I have my steam acc linked with a different nexon account so I haven't tested it
This worked thankyou I didn't know u were suppose to do it on the steam shortcut I just thought u were suppose to hold alt shift when launching
(you can also just shift+right click)
when u say move it back, u mean moving it back to where you originally have it saved as default?
yep cause it'll look for the game files again when you launch normally as yourself and not the second account
If you have the disk space I'd recommend just copying the entire game folder over to the new location and keeping the "old" files in place
I'm not hurting for space rn so I just have both
looks like there are about as many duplicates as there are "new" bugs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FvFoLup9yHHQ30R3I208GmzbC5bAAPJrvStqOUJsq_M/edit?usp=sharing
over 50 new threads since patch
almost like people panic when they can't access the game and nexon said nothing about it
really interesting that there aren't more duplicates of this thread's bug report
I'm gonna try something
replace my main windows user registry with the one the new admin user created
now THAT i haven't tried
could I get a ban if I manage to launch the game?
thanks for the workaround! apparently i didn't have to re-dl via nexon launcher doing the make new acc in powershell steps
Do you have the game installed in the default location?
Ah, yeah default location will just work lol
This workaround shouldn't get you banned. Anticheat functions as normal
Guessing it is still not working? ;D
Nope, and nexon hasn't addressed it at all either
Then again, don't expect much to begin with
The registry swap didn't work?
What a great day to be alive.
Nope
I wonder if running as admin will just work if you enable the local administrator account
But like, I'm not enabling local admin for a game lol
Nexon Game Security only starts in newly created user profiles meaning the update did something to the registry that broke NGS startup
@silver ravine @crystal pumice Any news on this issue? It is affecting quite a lot of people it sadly 🙁
They're just part of the community management, you only have 1 [away] nexon employee
They're as lost as us on this
okay i broke something new apparently
?
my new profile does not have task manager
Lmao huh?
Had anyone tried this?
it works
we're mostly just trying to find ways that don't involve a new account
Can’t try it myself lol
so... you want a workaround workaround
Mostly cause I know for a fact that people will leave the password to that account as "1"
or forget to remove it
the password should be "Maplestorysucksandthisaccountprovesit"
How did it go
at least it won't be 1 character long anymore
Didn't work
Broke a user had to delete it entirely
Even the windows key wouldn't work
That was interesting
jesus that's new levels of broke
I've had that level before
that was before that computer bricked and got a bsod when turning on
New profile does not have NGS in it's registry
I'm guessing it won't start maplestory.
I never noticed before but MapleStory isn't installed properly as an application. Only the launcher is.
Yeah
we back for now
Still in a new user
Also NGS adds itself to the registry after it launches sucessfully
can you ss your blackcat1
Yay. Gj guys
non-existent
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\BlackCat1
no wonder I couldn't find it then
I see no change between working and non working then
I mean
Local Machine =/= Current User
The only user specific registry is always NGS and there's also no difference
only thing worthwhile I've found
nvm
maplestory user is my user xD
I wonder if forcefully launching these will do something
I tried launching NGService.exe
it just asks if you're sure if you want to uninstall
What's funny is this is what my NGS folder looks like now
This is the old folder
Mine just doesn't exist anymore I went on a deleting spree of anything nexon and it never came back.
Have you gotten the game to run since then?
Nope
the NGS folder getting generated is an indicator of successful launch
(of the service, not Maplestory)
I also tried ripping entries of nexon out of registry and it hasn't changed anything either pretty weird.
Yeah I ripped out everything Nexon in registry, programdata, and appdata before reinstalling the launcher and game
just doesn't work unless it's with the secondary user workaround
was their recent update about us? or has someones started duping again
wdm?
nah sia pass stuff
<@&994008420392906803> Update on Account Restrictions
We have completed the investigation and restrictions have been lifted for accounts that were found to have no issues.
We once again sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience while we worked to resolve this matter.
that^ from last night
i think the ppl who hyperburned sia got banned
but this thread for is for today not yesterday lol
oh damn, and they just now let them back?
that's from guild renaming bug from the world merge
can you walk me through this? im trying to hold Shift and Alt but nothigns working
this thread has been up since the update was done
iirc hyperburned sia did not get banned per inkwell's note
how far did you get?
wdm this thread was made today the 28th
i did the powershell afterwards i hold shift+alt while launching nexon or steam but got nothing just regular run
shift+right click and choose "run as different user"
oh whatttt theres a workaround?? but yea, thats an updated name im pretty sure, cause i was in here since -1 reset yesterday
that is where i dont see 😮
for steam do i run on a different steam account? or is this suppose to be a microsoft acc?
are you doing this in the start menu or a shortcut?
shortcut
can you screenshot what you see?
snipping tool has a timer feature. Set that to 3 seconds. Click "+ New" and then shift right click on the shortcut. Wait for snipping tool to capture
Check where steam thinks the game is installed
okei!
did this work?
ayo! it worked! ty
idk as frustrating as this was, the actual impact was pretty small
kk imma do it, but wym impact?
and will we have to always start like this from now on?
As far as player population goes, the number of people impacted by this bug was pretty small
hopefully we get a fix soon
i cant even use this temp fix cause when I create new local admin accounts I get a access denied 🙁
when running different user
are you running powershell as admin?
yea
which step is not working?
so launch steam/launcher as new user > input credentials > access denied
yup
and just to be absolutely clear, you're inputting the new user's credentials right
yup
hey its working normally for me now
the workaround isn't working for me somehow, i click open as different user, put in the info and it just does nothing
maybe my issue is prob a windows 10 issue 🙁 cause I tried to see if any group policy is affecting it but cant seem to determine whichj
does the new user show up when you list the administrator group?
what did you name it btw
is it disabled somehow?
Are you launching Steam or Nexon Launcher?
trough steam
i forgot what the error message said but part of it said that I am unable to log in and then im stuck on that login screen so I had to restore my pc to earlier date
So this is what's happening for you?
Shift + Right click Steam shortcut > Run as different user > enter credentials > nothing
exactly true, i see the mouse cursor load for like 2 seconds and it's just back to nothing, no new processes or anything
Try appending this to the Target property of your Steam shortcut. Change "Maple2" to whatever username you used when you created the second windows account
pretty sure it's not gonna help but it's something to try
RAHHH i got mine to at least open
I honestly dont think this is a priority for them at this point given that this temp fix is allowing most people to play 🙁
it's nexon, for them their own game isn't a priority 💀
Tbf it wasn't gonna be priority ever lol
Esp last night when they had cash shop issues
Maybe this is how I get libbed from the game
well time to play doombots for the next couple days 😭
Well i tried the "temp fix" and i've logged in with the new user still not getting anywhere. I tried logging in with my pin is that possibly the issue? when its asking me to login with administrator
the only solution is the new user thing?
i tried running the compatibility trouble shooter and im getting the error message please delete the hacking program from the maplestory folder and reopen the game, but i dont have any hacks lol
Think it’s the only solution we have for now
welp the second user didnt work for me
i did and it did not work im just reinstalling the game right now just incase that does something
Did you create new user through powershell
set the password the powershell ran as admin
Or a different method
just reinstalled like 30 mins ago and didnt work lol
Are you running through steam or nexon launcher
Ran through different user entered my details tried to start maple and it asked me to login through my administrator password decided to click other option and login with pin and it said the same error message "maplestory has stopped working"
Steam
What did you enter into powershell
Maple2 and password 1
it doesnt appear as an option when i tried starting maple
it just showed my own Admin/"username" then asked for a password
Also make sure you are closing steam fully, then opening STEAM as user maple2
trying to install it to my Localdisk/C this time
nexon launcher
yes did it both through task manager and through "steam exit"
Hmm weirdge
cool worked for me thanks yall
Time to start your gym arc
aww hell nah
I did have an issue cause I messed with some files where steam wasn’t working post workaround
But once uninstalled and reinstalled it worked again
So hope that works for you too
Idk something seems to be preventing ngs anticheat from launching using our default accounts
Just glad we got a pretty easy workaround cause I have no faith nexon is gonna fix this anytime soon
Post said something about appdata, maybe all our computers had old users with a slightly different file structure?
wow i didn't know this was a common issue i thought my shit was just bricked
Thanks so much for this thread i would've never solved this myself lol
nothing works for me gg
it successfully made the user it's just when i ran the game as the other user nothing happened
did you run the game as the other user or the launcher?
tried both
You don't need powershell.
- Just go to settings > accounts > other Users > add account.
- When it asks for email or phone, select " I don't have this person's sign-in information" > "add user without a Microsoft account" > create user
- Then change the account type to admin.
I didn't even put a password and it worked
Are you running it while logged into the new user?
yeah i made the maple2 user with admin powers and gave it a password
Yes
it's just when i tried running the game as that user after putting in the username and password nothing happened
you added a passwordless admin account to your computer?
you run the launcher/steam as that user not the game
did u fully close steam / launcher
^this maybe. If not it might just bring up the already opened one. A good way to tell for launcher is that it will make you login to launcher again if you did it correct
surely this gets fixed soon
ensure launcher/ssteam doessnt open on start up, restart pc and try again maybe
launcher won't even open when i run it as the new user
Not sure if related to this issue but since the patch i get NGS update error: 0xe1000502(-520093183) withing 30 seconds of me having the game open, tried the usual feedback that people have given to try fix it
I try to run Nexon Launcher as a different user (Maple2) but the "Continue with Google" button doesn't redirect me to google accounts. help please?
I've already got the user how do i launch maple from that user?
in nexon launcher hit the download button and point it to where you already have maple
should just go "oh its already here"
i should uninstall then?
nope
or i do i need to log in on the other user
log in on the other user and hit download point it to where you have maple and it should switch to a play button
Sooo i made it eventually
Had to restart pc login through the new user from the start,
Start steam and make a new Steam folder moved steamapps to my Steam2 folder where i have maple downloaded and then start maplestory
WHILST LOGGED ONTO THE NEW USER 🙁
and all this so i can now go to bed
It worked but if i go back to my main user will it work now?
Has Dev even confirmed that this is a issue and tried to even fix this issue
I still can't log in, and I don't really want to add another user on this PC
its a headache bro but its the only thing that worked so far
CM has seen the thread but no acknowledgement that a dev is working on it
pretty much just a i saw this thread let me know if anything changes
since it doesnt seem like it has a big impact on majority of the playerbase i really doubt there's gonna be a quick turnaround for this
any fix yet man this is so stupid
It takes 2 seconds to take it off once it’s fixed 💀

I already did it and nothing happened still with the same issue

To be fair, I'm playing on my work computer lolol
So I have security issues since I'm on my work network and admin etc
I literally made a new user. Downloaded the game and log into the new user to play it
I don’t do the launch from another account
The run as different user is so ppl don’t have to deal with having to set up their browsers and other user-bound settings
As soon as the admin acc is made you can already run as a diff user on the main acc
Just got off work, finally get to play. Shout outs to whoever found the workaround. Any word from Nexon on the issue yet?
nope
nexon: "this is fine"
god bless who ever found the work around with a second windows user
this worked
🫡
So nothing else has been adressed?
Ty for the workarounds <3.
Also kinda sad that the devs/whoever haven't made a proper announcement about this issue
theyre too busy with any issues that revolve around money :/
only seen updates about cashshop issues so far
yeah we're not getting anything fixed for this bug until they fix that
classic
how do i launch as different user on steam
i have to enter username and password to do that
Did you make a new windows user and set it to administrator
follow guide in that post
if u hover over steam shortcut on ur pc and press SHIFT + right click
an option should pop up to run as different user
We will recover your Erda Link progress from when your character was in the Challenger-World and restore it to the server you leaped to next week.
I have a feeling it will be a while til we get a fix
Atleast cash shop is being restarted soon so we can use that again. Oh wait 
basically everyone who the workaround works for 😂
at some point we just send a batch file for the ppl having issues with it
surely it's not too hard to follow the posts
I'm thinking of making tags in my spreadsheet, like "World Leap/World Merge", "Night Troupe", and "Legion Champion". This could help differentiate the bunch of "Event"-Type bugs that we have right now. I'm wondering if anyone will use that info, though...
surely they will fix it.. im not about to use a seperate windows account on steam forever
Anyone getting id already logged in once they log off?
@crystal pumice can we get comms on if this is being looked at by devs
pretty please
I've forwarded the information and I'm keeping an eye out in here for any additional information as well
tysm
so i got the game running with a second user account but I also need steam to be run as admin so I can use my controller
i also set the account as admin but cant seem to do both at once
did u set this
ill change it back to normal
ok figure out why i didnt have that i added this to the target and it just completely changed the properties menu
so the meta is to install maplestory with steam and change steam to run with the second account
u do the same with nexon launcher?
why the heck i was playing with the second accoynt then xD
ppl just need to remember to kill the steam process
Some new info for people that are still digging. This isn't required knowledge for the workaround.
This is a normal start up process for the game using the workaround
maplestory.exe never interacts with the BlackCipher folder if I don't use the workaround
how i run nexon launcher as diffrent user?
cant find it
i jabe the admin but not the diffrent user
i have created a diffrent user i was playing with that account till now

ah man maple still isnt seeing my inputs after being in admin 
guess im back to streaming maple from my steam deck to my pc 💀
some applications are only installed per-user, like discord
steam can see the controller and inputs work its just not working on maple
the fix for that was just make steam launch as admin
wait i found it you do shift+r click
xD
sry i am silly
💀
so this is officially a fix and not workaround
you dont have to log to diffrent account to play maple
ya so basically the moment u make the admin account
u literally never have to log into it
just use run as diff user
yeah
should have looked discord again earlier
but on the other account i couldnt open discord
xD
discord only installed per-user 😂
oh wait
steam didnt launch as admin
the checked box in the shortcut didnt do anything
ima try task scheduler
not calling it a fix cause that could sound like its a userside issue
like outdated software or something
when its a nexon side issue
we got edge cased 😂
ok task scheduler didnt work
i can see steam appear in process but there isnt any steam app opening
Yeah users creating a local admin account is def not a fix
You want to open Steam as a new user but as administrator at the same time?
did see/send over the info on whats working as a temporary fix to help troubleshoot?
not even that but like specifically a 2nd one 
Yep!
why doesnt a first one work 
yep
Awesome tyty
I'm updating as I see from y'all as well
gl to the devs 
do we even know the cause yet
seeing all the issues atm with the patch, they got prios too
My only idea is to actually log in as the user then run steam as administrator
overloaded
Nothing I can update with currently so thanks for understanding
rip
can always count on the community to figure things out 😂
kinda sucks for the ppl who have the issue
but dont kjow to look in a niche discord channel 
i guess its on reddit
the reddit posts
someone posted on reddit 2 hours after those fixes
that they cant launch the game
so def some ppl that dont search things up
yeah just wondering if a casual player even checks that
or if they are just cooked
he posted without searching reddit, but fortunately theres reddit users that let em know in comments
if u dont use reddit or main discord, you're cooked til they fix it
we actively chat in this channel, so it'll bump it up so ppl who open the bug reports page can see
yeah the OP of one of the workaround posts is going around commenting
I feel like I'm getting close to something but the workaround works for now and reset is in 22 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@zenith canopy have u tried changing settings for all users
holy flashbang
looks good to me, my steam is elevated while i run as diff user
still 18 new posts that aren't resolved or acknowledged by a CM yet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FvFoLup9yHHQ30R3I208GmzbC5bAAPJrvStqOUJsq_M/edit?usp=sharing
they're working at it, though, I think
Hopefully not skipping them...
does this work for launcher players?
nah laways just cash shop maintenace cash shop maintenace
yea i believed it does but the last steps are different
have to scroll up to cause I forgot what they were
I believe someone mentioned some different things to do in case the guide didn’t work out
But yea it should be the same
my saviour this worked 🙏
any update on this, I don't wanna have to make another user lmfao
waiting too
I just finished tagging the current bugs in a new column, and it looks like most of it is related to world leap/merge...
Looks like it’s gonna be 2 days of lockout for me 😩
Maybe longer who knows, this should be the first issues to fix people are not being able to log onto their game
damn 2 datys and still can't log in? wtf is going on bro lfmao
Same issue, but creating a new user on my PC doesn't help.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/s/yyev2TNptt
try this this fixed it for me
if somone could pin this fo people who are still having this issue?
I just hope that nexon still fix this issue even though this might be a workaround but not a perm solution as many other users dont like to go through multiple user just for 1 game…
unfortunately there are some people like me who this hot fix does not work on 🙁
nexon said something about the bug?
work around does not work for me and dont think they even care
Did u set it as admin?
yup i did everything
its more of an issue on my pc when it came to the local admin account
tried looking fora fix for it but nothing so far so i just gave up and gonna wait for nexon to take care of it
what issue are u having
access denied when entering my credentials after running steam as a different user
seems to be an issue on my end when it came to that
i got PoE2 to play tmr anyways so no sweat
yep on manual
the issue on my pc is that when i tried to logon to the local admin account it gave me an error message and said that I was unable to log in
did u put the nexon launcher folder and maplestory folder out of old user directory? like in C:// or D:// is good and add the new user and permission for the nexon launcher folder or even maplestory folder too?
i launch through steam
ye could do the same i think
cuz I also got that issue like u but after adding the new user to the folder security group it worked, maybe u could find steam folder and try
kinda wish they'd say anything about this bug lol
so i was able to launch the game with the user powershell but i would crash and get ngs error
..
i hope i dont get banned for that
was it like a ngs update error? i feel like sometimes people get that normally
something like that
i shouldve taken a screenshot
i started hte game, closed it after a few hours and press played again
and crashed
feel like it should be fine. we're basically just running the game as a different user which there shouldn't be an issue with. we aren't bypassing NGS(actually the opposite), or doing anything malicious
Can't use this since i cannot use another user on work pc and my home pc is fully virtual. So yeah i guess i'm not gonna play till they fix it. "shakes in addict"
Throwing out that the workaround also does not work for me, time to work on my backlog.
what message do you get when you try to launch
did you fully close your steam before running as a diff user
confirmed administrator acc right
you can probably try this then
This is worse than the last patch-_-
I've crossed the line for how much effort i'm going to put forth to play a game, i'm just throwing my info out for others to know and hopefully for nexon to do something with expediance.
I also submitted a ticket with support with the logs they requested from my system
fair, for some it's a couple command lines and launching the game as a diff user
Yeah i keep updating my ticket haha
for some there's literally other factors we havent figured out
NGClient64 do any of you have this .txt in your blackcipher folder?
I do
Oh nvm it was from tuesday
Still waiting for any response
Well luckily we did not hold our breath
workaround until they get around to fixing it
i am trying to use the workaround but when i run the nexon launcher its just loading and disappear
i have those in details only for a few seconds during the "loading"
this is the launcher
i know
by any chance are you logged in to the 2nd acc at the same time
only happens if im running "Run as different user"
can u go to properites on nexon launcher
and change settings for all user to run as administrator
now its running, thank you:)
wtf
So it seems that’s one of the possible issues for some ppl
I only remembered cause someone’s controller wasn’t working cause steam doesn’t run as administrator when u only do the “run as diff user”
by default it doesnt but when enable it like u showed above^ it does
Yeah gotta set it for the other user
Since it’s using the other user’s permissions when u run as diff user
was this issue addressed?
CMs have relayed information to the dev team
huh why?
This is getting annoying really quick. We need some official statement, atleast answer our tickets
They haven't even taken ownership of this issue yet LOL.
That is legit pathetic when they have this many amazing people gathering information for them and troubleshooting for free.
Im always surprised with how disappointed I can be in this game company.
Thank you to everyone here helping all of us continue to play the game. I appreciate it! 😄
im so scared to turn off my client
havent logged off since i was able to get on using the new user workaround
If it makes you feel better, I had to use the work around too and my game crashed a couple times while leaping. It started up again fine for me, however I'm not planning on logging off either lol.
thanks for "testing" 😂 continue running as diff user right?
yes that seems like the only solution until fix
anyone crashing while training while 'logged in as another user'?
I haven't seen any reports of that in this thread. The only thing that this workaround does is allow the game to start "normally" so any crashes you experience should be unrelated.
Probably a misunderstanding on their part cause this is workaround is the opposite of anticheat evasion lol
I believe the problem is sometimes the workaround lets the game open WITHOUT NGS
and if that's the case
well yeah, anticheat avoidance
thats literally not happening 💀 why r u spreading misinfo
I'm saying might
Not stating it as fact.
Avoiding the anticheat can trigger an autoban if you can force the game on without it
when launch the game from launcher it shows nexon gaming security logo
It's possible via false positive but you'd have to know how the game reads the anticheat to begin with
yeah
That's what it is meant to happen
The game does not open if it doesn't detect NGS running. That's why there's no crash logs for this behavior. Maplestory.exe is behaving as normal in that it terminates the process when it doesn't detect NGS running. What's abnormal is that it doesn't call the process to start without the workaround.
The game process is supposed to make several calls referencing the blackciper folder found in the game's install directory but that isn't happening for some reason without the workaround implemented
anyone figured out a solution?
tried to use admin + changing user
It does make a fast call to NGS at the beginning, but it quickly goes away.
Too fast to take screenphoto
I didn't see anything logged in process monitor
No that is the problem
anyone?
Sorry i cant login either
Yeah I'm saying it never calls blackcipher at all
That's the only time "BlackCipher" shows up in the logs and it's as a result of a directory query
So the game cannot run without NGS
If it feels like I'm rehashing details we all know, then it's because I am. I'm responding to the idea that the game might be able to run without NGS and result in a ban
Yeah i know, just stating ng 64 thing pops up and dissappears. Might spend s few more hours burried in logs
I spent a couple hours last night comparing the broken logs and working logs line by line lol I couldn't find anything or I accidentally filtered out useful lines
Will we have a job after this? 
Yeah i did earlier too but could not see anything usefull
The weird thing is someone said they could open mabinogi and ngs would run fine. The mabinogi blackcipher file sizes were different but it shouldn't be that cause the workaround uses the same MapleStory files and is able to run.
It's gotta be some borked registry thing. Messing around with the 'user/appdata' files yielded no results and those were the only files I could find that were different between users.
NGS runs fine with BA as, so it's something with the way the game is handling it
Might run on different keys
most definitely
Probally also some in-game stuff
cause maplestory\appdata\BlackCipher\BlackCipher64.aes is what actually starts the NGS service by generating blackcat1.sys using the config file "config.bc"
Yeah and i think that might be the reason. It tries to open NGS without blackcipher
you guys tried to switch lunchers?
Yeah both steam and nexon
yep people tried that
I'm leaning toward some registry key getting borked which causes game to fail to elevate permissions
But what the trigger is i dont know
how deep can we go in order to play a 2d game
Spaghetti haha
The registry keys are still under "Wizet" for one lol
Oh very deep appantly since its only players working on
I think its trademarked under wizet
what's wild is that the game settings aren't saved in some sort of config file
they're all registry keys
Yeah that is whats biting us now
but I digress. The primary difference in the workaround is that it uses Maple2's appdata and registry set. So theoretically the solution is there
This seems to be program failing, i think from the files in this it the one calling apis to start the game
I haven't seen that before
did you change anything to get that? or just ran it without workaround?
Ran it without workaround
I saw nxsteam tries to load in the workload but quickly closes, so i tried to find it in the folder
God damm rabbithole haha
node js? can't believe they're using that
has this bug been recognized yet? I'd rather not jump through hoops just to play
A community manager knows but past that, dunno.
cool cool
I am not surprised
Did you try to set it to run as administrator for the diff user
It works for some ppl
how do i make it run on a diff user? ive created a 2nd windows acc but when i shift alt or alt shift it opens this pic you showed only not the run as different user
we would have already been banned b4 workaround cause game would already try to run without the anticheat

The alternative solution doesn't work for me 😭
steam or nexon launcher
are you on your main acc?
nexon launcher
can u do this on your nexon launcher properties
idk whats causing it but some ppl have an extra step to do
yeah but on the Maple2 i dont have the maple files on it
.
I've done all that and it doesn't work for me
damn
kinda confused, but lets start from the beginning, what stepss are you doing to try to open maple
you'll never need to log in to the 2nd acc when u make it
everything done from the main
ive followed the reddit post where to make powershell
Why is it not enough to just run Steam as admin? Why does it require another Windows user?
ok, and you made the Maple2 usser with a password correct?
i shift right click the launcher run diff user and got that error message
.
We wouldnt need this workaround if it did 😂
what windows user are you logged into
something wrong with the main user account, which is alleviated by just making a fresh acc to run the game as
which explains why only a certain % of ppl are affected by this issue
maybe they arent admin on their own pc?
main
oh i actually did it but i hve to redownload maple again o_o
it should reverify
^
iss that where you had maple originally
theres no extra step for ppl who installed it in default directory
but if u have it in a diff drive
it will try to install maple again
maybe thats the reason,,
should i uninstall and resintall in the default directory?
Isn't that default?
would that effect the placement on Maple2 acc?
What happens when you click download
thats the default path
so the run as administrator for all users worked for 2 people so far, the one that needed it for the controller on steam
and the other one where their nexon launcher was closing after a few seconds
I'm gonna try something and I'll report back in a couple hours
can u explain this? about locating new folder and copying to a new location etc
whats the path of ur old maple
try doing tha but erase the \Maplestory part
Guess I'll try that first
@jaunty pebble did you send that for people that are having to redownload? Or as a potential fix?
Gotcha
I'd think that would get superceeded by the config in installed-apps.db
it gets immediately overwritten when you start the launcher lol
Yeah they both get overwritten
I have a snapshot from before the update so I'm gonna restore my os disk from backup and see what happens
It'd be cool if we could view the logs but the juicy ones are all encrypted 🙁
😭
i mean there will prob be an update in like a week
until then, all the people who cant play are just screwed
yep
Has any CM commented on this issue?
#1410408538731315291 message
We need a FAQ for this bug thread lmao
how do we know most of these that are not working
they did everything properly
it's so much effort as soon as u just cant run as diff user and work right away, since it could be caused by so many things

save my boi meow meow
fortunately there's POE2 to keep some ppl busy
im still in act 1 😆
you've been helping the most, so you should start it
I can add a link to it in my spreadsheet
some people in this thread derserves monetary compensation at this point 😭
im just in this thread while grinding on maple
bless you king 🫰
Almost does with the restore process. Should have results soon
The catch is that this info is gonna be useless for 99% of people
That don't run nightly backups
but don't you have the original to go back to...?
sometimes we just want answerssss
otherwise, it's not a "workaround"
trynna figure out why workaround doesnt work for some people
even if nexon fixes the problem, I still wanna know how this even happened lmaoo
Yeah it just worked for me so I can't test different cases for the workaround either
wtf
Launcher thinks that it's installing on G drive but it's actually writing to D drive
Nexon coding.
i assume it doesnt work for some people cuz theyre doing it wrong
but \o/
It mostly seems like the anticheat just isn't launching for some, and all of the workarounds are causing it to launch for some reason
Yep that's exactly what's happening
this is where its installed but idk why it still show i have to download it
Have you tried downloading? What happens?
Launcher will verify what files already exist before downloading. Chances are that it'll see those game files already in there and realize it doesn't need to download anything
oh...... it doesnt need downloading ..
im so slow xd ty for the helps
lol no worries it trips people up
oh yeah also restoring from a backup from before the update didn't fix it
I guess a nuclear option would be to do a fresh install of windows, then redownload the game
nuclear option is to buy a new pc
well we'd know if it's some sort of bug with with the combination of hardware or if it's an issue with windows
everyone uses windows, right?
I downloaded it on my laptop which has never had steam on it before, exact same issue
I have a disk I'm not using so I'll install windows on there and let yall know
dailies first tho lol
crazy how it only happens to some ppl
and making a new a user profile
whats on our main acc thats not letting us launch the game 😂
oh yeah we confirmed Win 10 has this issue right?
im on win 10
learning more about windows thanks to nexon 😂
can't wait for these 3 issues to be fixed so that I can go back to doing other things
very specific information
I have the problem with windows 11 but my laptop works so i'm using that
i came here bc i was having this problem, except it launched after re-verifying my files on steam
i didn't have to use the reddit tricks
LMAO
its so strange how it affects everyone so differently..
yea
for some it's easy as just verifying files
some its just make the 2nd user account and immediately be able to launch the game
then the other cases we haven't figured out
dailies be damned i'm gonna test fresh windows install
as soon as my backup completes lol
i am just back from 2 days of work.. let me try this.
as simple as copy paste powershell
I would recommend not using "1" as the password to a local admin account though
i would make a batch file but
💀
dont open a batch file from some rando on discord
just anyone in general
I don't think they'd like people sending batch files on the official discord lol
exactly
Hi all im getting the same issues as the others ever since the new update not able to launch the game. Can someone pin the solution they tried that works?
We should really use net user Maple2 * /add instead
cause that'll ask you to input a password
The OP of this thread has been updated with a reddit post
why does maplestory need such profound IT knowledge.. no xxx.bat file please. haha
👍
Do we need to redownload the game somewhere on 2nd user?
you will never need to log onto the 2nd user
Point it wherever you installed it originally
oh. we can do that?
Yeah. What are you using? Steam? Nexon?
Launcher
I cant post image here but no little cog.
Does it say "install" instead?
only when i press download, the little cog appears.
you made me click haha
compensation oh no
baited
anyway.. i reinstalled.. haha
Can enter now?
nah this was the sia incident
yes
its going eosl. do upgrade.. 🙂
I aint gonna install W11 for a test lol
it's getting wiped after I see if maple runs or not
i am on wins11. and it doesnt. 🙁
my friend just bought a new desktop, and it works for her
My laptop and desktop are both on W11. Desktop doesn't work, but laptop does. That's two different things. Hardware config, and windows install. I'm gonna see if a fresh install works with my hardware
Can't upgrade if there's no tpm 🙂
backup finally finished. I'll report back in a couple hours
Has anyone tried formatting?
my friend had a new desktop delivered ytd... and its brand new.. does it count :)?
yes
That kind of crosses the barrier of how far i'm going to go in order to play a game.
Was hoping the announcement would have acknowledgement of this launch issue
Time for poe2 I guess
been poe2 since 1pm
2nd user it works for me..
😄
so do we need to run as different user until our lovely developers fix the issue?
yea
So far they have not indicated about the launch problem?
wow that's insane but thanks a lot for this solution as of the moment, If I were them I would fix it today.
no word on whether they are working on it yet
nah. dont bank on it. will take months. since new patch just hit, there are alot of other more important fix to do
Months is a pretty ridiculous timeline
yea i tried that already
icic
You're inputting the original local admin account right? Not the new local admin that was made for the workaround?
CM has at least acknowledged devs are aware of the issue, I reckon it's relatively low in the priority list
Has to be low
when running as different user yea im inputting for the new local admin created for the workaround
idk if a previous windows update messed with any of my group policy but I cant even log into a newly created local admin account
oh thats so cooked
yea
so I get a access denied message after inputting the credentials for the new local admin
Mine didn't start either, I had to give administrator privileges to the new user and I was able to log in.
yup did that but still same conclusion :/
GPO is so fun 🙃
Nexon need to hire that guy who came up with that Reddit solution that allows me to play maple to be their System Adminstrator/ Engineer. Im up and running thanks all
I entered with Steam
crazy we didnt wanna try to log in to other user cause it didnt make sense
the update does not like some people's main user accs
What if I restore my laptop's backup on to my desktop 🤔
i learned to just try everything even if it doesnt make sense
I just found 2 updates in Windows, I'll update them just in case.
Hey crazy idea
Has anyone with a working workaround tried logging in with maple2 then running launcher as your primary account?
How is this still not considered a major issue in their announcements
It's not widespread enough
how do I run as my main on the 2nd
It works for me, but with Steam.
how do I check my username since i logged in with microsoft
Fresh install worked, as mostly expected. Time to restore from backup again lol
Also that's interesting... I'll give it a try in a bit as well
oh nvm the log in shows now
has nexon put any focus on this yet or is it all still cash shop stuff
np
Yikes
my pw is correct so rip
You can probably use your Microsoft credentials
3k messages 🔜
we need threads for these kinds of threads 😔
somebody wake up the CMs for an update
he playing maple lol
I forgot to ask if he got affected by the #1410694013274558636 bug
Actually I recall seeing something about a windows bug which made it hold on to old passwords
Old Microsoft account passwords
Either that or I've gaslit myself into justifying why my Microsoft login on my computers has never changed
get ready to only get this fixed after night troupe 💀
They can't end Night Troupe without its biggest clown (me)
We're never gonna get this fixed cause we reminded them of maplestory 2
ima have a work with inkwell at maplecon 🤡

Ok i was able to get launcher to launch as my primary user from maple2 but no dice
another announcement of not addressing this literal game breaking bug
Can't break the game if the game never launches to begin with 
the workaround seems to work for me, but has anyone gotten banned using this unofficial fix?
just wondering
ultra unlikely, since you're just making a new user acc to launch the game as. If it was bannable to do this, then anyone with the issue would have been banned already, as the game attempts to launch without the anti-cheat outside of the workaround.
The game force closes as soon as the anticheat is not running
okay thanks. im just new to this whole powershell stuff and everything.
i tried downloading thegame on steam first to see if i could launch from there but it didnt work.
Haven't figured out the core issue, all we know is that something about the main user account that the game doesn't like, so the anti-cheat never runs 😂
maybe nexon are waiting for us to figure the core issue out and then they just gonna go and fix it after

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410408538731315291/1410764243812483122/image.png?ex=68b38596&is=68b23416&hm=46bc5d5360484b3840f8387b5a66e546d27d8e00caf725e61723c25b367d9e94
this pic by haricat makes me believe there's registry queries for blackcipher, etc that i havent tried to delete yet/know where they are
and/or appdata files that i didnt know belong to blackcipher that i havent tried to delete that might cause this issue
but atp they should just fix it on their end
- Start Maplestory
- maplestory.exe calls BlackCipher64.aes (maplestory\appdata\BlackChpher)
- BlackCipher64.aes starts (found in Task Manager as Process Name "Nexon Game Security")
- BlackCipher64.aes~~ reads config.bc in the same folder and ~~generates blackcat1.sys at %programdata%\Nexon\NGS and loads it as an ephemeral kernel driver of the same name
- maplestory.exe sees the kernel driver and proceeds to load as normal
The issue is at step 2 I think. The broken instance just doesn't use BlackCipher64.aes for some reason. The BlackXchg.aes in the screenshots I sent are more to do with how other programs can communicate with the game for things like overlays, hence the name "Black Exchange"
I also want to point out that it does a directory search at the beginning so the game process should know that the BlackCipher exists

Also apparently closing the game incorrectly while running with the workaround can cause you to stay "logged in" for longer than expected. I'm effectively on time out for a bit
Is this fixed yet
nope
Awesome love that
at tthis point hari fixing it themselves
the best part is that the people using the workaround will never know if it gets fixed unless they tell us
i'm just about to give up
I'm sick of going through logs
o7
I'm going to test something potentially silly
It's usually the silly ideas that work in these types of situations
we learned long ago that intuition can go out the window
I'm wondering if my ISP is stopping the anticheat
I don't think the workaround would work if that was the case
It might be more than one thing, no harm in trying
At this point, it's more curiosity than anything else
Might as well try
i remember in lost ark there were IP addresses that were banned, so u had to contact support to unban your ip 😂
whats funny is they didnt know how to help me until i just asked them to check if my ip is banned and it was
guess they auto ip-ban addresses that bots are likely to use
Nope, still a no go
It just wtf is happening in user2
thats different in user1
whats the difference between users, registry and appdata?
cuz both users use the same install folder
so either permissions are fked, or something is corrupted
appdata and some registry
thing is i dont wanna do troubleshooting cuz im logged and im scared whatever i might do might brick it for the workaround somehow
right, so logically the issue is one or the other or both
ive tried to delete all instances of blackcipher/maplestory/nexon i could find out of my appdata/registry tho and it didnt do anything
which makes me think i just missed something, cuz in ur pic it shows some registry path i havent even considered
dont' forget that maplestory's primary registry is under wow64node\wizet
which i haven't tried deleting
What
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Wizet\MapleStory
oh lol



