#Everything left is completely unobtainable and I do not even meet the requirements for end game

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wind plover
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This is my seed: https://alttpr.com/en/h/JG8k9jwpyB

I already got everything I can obtain without the Red Cane in Turtle Rock, there is nothing more in there that I can get until I have the red cane.

I got everything I can get in Ice Palace without the big key and after spending 30 minutes looking for the once chest that I know that I missed, and that chest should have been the big key but it was the map. There are literally no more chests that I can check without the big key. I cannot even get to the boss because if it.

Literally everything else has been checked and I I still do not have the necessary things to finish. There is nowhere else

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mossy socket
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have you been into Misery Mire?

cyan nymph
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in inverted, there are other ways to get into TR besides the main entrance

cyan nymph
mossy socket
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should mark that on the tracker

wind plover
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I went thoe other route in with the mirror

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I went in on the ledge

cyan nymph
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theres other ledges

wind plover
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No clue how to get in the others

cyan nymph
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you should be able to reach where the TR BK is, and then you should be able to get the big chest

wind plover
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The long ledge is the only way in I can find

cyan nymph
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you jump down to the other one

wind plover
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The ledge is sealed off, can't

cyan nymph
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need to be in the other world

wind plover
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That ledge is unreachable even in light world. It is blocked even there

static imp
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second dropdown from the left at the top of EDM

cyan nymph
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you can either hop down from the top or reach the bottom mitts-locked cave and go thru the cave to the top and mirror

wind plover
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I got the big key and Bombos but the big chest is inaccessible without the red cane. Sill unable to progress

static imp
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you have a hookshot

wind plover
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But that should not be necessary in basic

static imp
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crossing the gap to the big chest?

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it's a 2 tile gap; there's no trick there

wind plover
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So I gotta make my way to the long ledge again?

static imp
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I mean, you have other options

wind plover
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Not when I cannot access the main entrance or the next room after smaller ledge without red cane

static imp
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I got the big key and Bombos

wind plover
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But the beginning of main entrance has a long thing you need red cane to make moving platform

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You cannot get past that without the red cane or glitching and I cannot glitch

static imp
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yes so either you go back to the big chest entrance from outside and go from there, or you do something else with the item you just got

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welcome to inverted TR

wind plover
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I know that inverted starts you in dark world, but that does not mean items should be any more difficult to get than any other basic placement seed

swift rivet
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Say what?

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Inverted is an advanced gameplay format, period.

static imp
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why wouldn't it make item placements different

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the world is shaped differently

swift rivet
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There's documentation about what's been changed to make Inverted work. Did you read that?

static imp
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see also how inverted starts are notoriously difficult because one of the few places the game can put things is low% blind/mothula

wind plover
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The bosses I can understand

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But the item placement in inverted is another thing

swift rivet
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Dark World, in general, hits harder. Welcome to the Next Level.

static imp
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dark Death Mountain is harder to traverse, so a setting that requires you to traverse it from that side makes it harder to get places

honest lark
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Also mirroring to TR from the light world isn't special, it's just what happens when you invert the way the mirror works, that's not even one of the changes that needed to be made for access to things. That's just the fact that the mirror does the thing

wind plover
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I guess this is what I get for upping the ante each seed lol

glossy wadiBOT
wind plover
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TR? You mean DW?

static imp
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no, specifically TR

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there's a slight change to the EDM terrain so you can access mimic cave but you could get into middle TR without that

wind plover
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Oh, Turtle Rock. I'm dumb

honest lark
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The same way you can normally mirror off laser bridge exit to go buy potions in a casual game or to try and find the ice rod in a rando and then come back to your portal and go back in is the same as being able to mirror to laser bridge from the light world in inverted.

wind plover
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Also has any lore been thought up/discussed about inverted? Like is Link a DW native in inverted?

honest lark
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There's probably fan fiction of it somewhere, but that's not really a major topic of the discord

swift rivet
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The lore is simply "Hey, what happens if we start in Dark World instead?"

static imp
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I believe there's some change to the opening scroll but it's kinda just handwaving

wind plover
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Literally the last check in TR was just a heart container. Big chest only had a key. Still without items to complete other crystal dungeons and there is none left in TR and literally everything else is checked

static imp
wind plover
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Everything else listed here is 100% unobtainable

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swift rivet
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What's happening in Ice Palace?

old heath
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let me know once all this is resolved

wind plover
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I got everything in Ice Palace that is accessible to me

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After finding last chest, needed it to be big key\

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freaking map

static imp
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you should be able to at least get everything in IP except the boss (and you may or may not be able to get the boss as well)

mossy socket
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mark your Misery Mire medallion

static imp
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I'm gonna guess you don't know how to get to MM in inverted though

wind plover
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I can

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Something else is marked off there

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Fuck. I'm stupid

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I have the hookshot now

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Mirror will get me into the swamp btw

swift rivet
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The swamp? Or the mire?

static imp
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they're both kinda swamps to be fair

swift rivet
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Bogs, if you will.

wind plover
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I do not know what medallion is required but I have a 66% chance rn

swift rivet
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Or marshes.

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Your last screenshot indicated possession of one medallion.

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Er.

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The last one I opened. Sorry.

wind plover
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I posted an update

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Bird too for swamp lol

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Bombos it was

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I got the hookshot so late I forgot it gets me into Misery Mire

spice thorn
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Maybe don't jump to saying its the logics fault and it must require glitches, maybe admit you're stuck and aren't sure how to proceed. You frequently start out by saying the logic doesn't work, maybe be a bit more humble that you're new and first say you aren't sure where to proceed.

old heath
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they are not here anymore