Despawned IP key in door rando multiworld

[devout lichen]

Quick question, because not sure I understand what I did there.
Clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/DreamyEagerMinkSaltBae-Pwn9Fnvyrw7LOVEu

Went in IP before to read the hint, but could not go further. Then went to dark shopping mall to read the hint there, used Byrna to not die, and a key appeared. I know from the Multiclient (used aerinon's build 1.1.4) that it is the key from the bari in the second room of IP.
Picked it up, but then was not available (which I presume probably relates to the key going in the overworld instead of the dungeon that should have it), so I locked myself off of a good chunk of the seed

[smoky cradle]

is a spoiler available?

[devout lichen]

No, that was played as part of a tournament

[smoky cradle]

also, just more reason to get rid of normal keys lol

are those generated by sashabot?

just wondering it there's any chance maybe synack can somehow grab a spoiler

[devout lichen]

Nope, generated using a bot specific for that tournament

[smoky cradle]

okay, and they don't keep spoilers?

i assume the race is over? can you post the bps?

[devout lichen]

Yes, the race is over. Here is the link: https://canardbotpatcher.alttprfr.com/patcher.html?patch=https://canardbot.s3.amazonaws.com/patchs/50166_M583923141_AsclepiosRod.bps

[smoky cradle]

do you know where the key was sent from?

neat

[devout lichen]

The key is the one from the jellyfish in Ice

It said so in the Multiclient when I picked it up

Mystery parameters, but no keysanity there. But there was dropsanity

[smoky cradle]

oh i thought you meant the key was what should have been that one

[flint basin]

I've only seen this happen one other time before. I think its prob some value on an old sprite slot that isnt getting cleared out and getting carried over to the next sprite that occupies that slot

[ionic cedar]

yea the key doesn't just appear, octorok rocks count as sprites that die, this key is being dropped by one

[flint basin]

yeah, i think the one other time i saw it, it was with moblin spears

[devout lichen]

Ok, so in some way the octoroc rock that died became the IP jellyfish and gave me the drop from it? And then, because not in IP, the game did not know what to do with the key, so it just disappeared?

Something relating to activating the Byrna at the same time as this sprite died?

[flint basin]

byrna had nothing to do with it

[ionic cedar]

basically yes to the first part, though the devil is in the details, else it'd be known and possibly fixed bug

[devout lichen]

Interesting. Curious on how it happens

[flint basin]

my first comment above

[devout lichen]

But is there anything that you need to do to trigger it?

Or for that slot to not getting cleared out

[flint basin]

I dont know ALL the mechanisms that are used to clear data out, but theres at least one that is missing that part. It might be something that only happens when its in the lobby and you exit the dungeon without killing the enemy (and collecting the drop), because I'd guess that normal supertile transitioning are already clearing this out, otherwise youd see this all the time, but leaving the dungeon might be a case not covered

[smoky cradle]

not without a graduate course

[devout lichen]

Thanks for answering 🙂 Understand that it is not easy to know exactly, but was curious

[smoky cradle]

well it's more that you can't know without some superhuman mental tracking

[devout lichen]

Wish I had that XD

[smoky cradle]

me too

jk i wish my brain exploded

🤯

[surreal sedge]

This is the best lead I've had on this issue and codemann's hypothesis is worth investigating. This is on my list to fix.