tech

[tawdry valve]

That’s… actually not too bad for 2 years ahhaah

[simple bobcat]

Well it was 1 year

[grizzled crow]

bruh

why

also could of done top entry

[simple bobcat]

Had already been cleaning my room for 8 hours so I really didn’t want to spend too much time on my pc

[grizzled crow]

2 second job taking a label off

smh

[simple bobcat]

No need

My pc is under my desk so I don’t see

[grizzled crow]

smh

[warm socket]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.60GHz
GPU: Vega 8 Graphics
RAM: 8GB(5.95GB usable)

💀 💀 💀

[raw hull]

Ohh that's why it was filled so much dust

[simple bobcat]

Yes + cats

My PC was on my desk at first but when I got a second monitor I didn’t have space for a PC on my desk anymore but I also don’t hear the fans as much anymore

[raw hull]

mm

[grizzled crow]

oof

think u need a proper gpu

[grizzled crow]

cats are usually the problem

under desk doesn't really generate that much unless you leave it for 5 years

[simple bobcat]

I had it above my desk for a few months but no cats

[warm socket]

my cat got into the computer case and fell asleep, she also touched something around the computer and it wouldn't turn on 🫡

[raw hull]

Put the cat back in the case and see if it turns on ig

[warm socket]

no thx, my cat is mechanic boy!

[warm socket]

if I want to change GPU I need to change and CPU, my graphic card is integrated...

[grizzled crow]

no

u get a gpu

smh

you can have a built in one and a proper one

[warm socket]

thx for info 🙂

[grizzled crow]

or get rid of said cat

[warm socket]

no, my cat is from Ohio

[grizzled crow]

what does that mean

[warm socket]

the photo says it all

but i cant send 😦

no perm for pics

[raw hull]

never

[grizzled crow]

sad times

try #irl-media

[warm socket]

i need to be verified

😦

[grizzled crow]

oof

verify then

[warm socket]

🐱

[toxic grove]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Mainboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING (ATX, 2x M.2, SATA 6Gbit/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, Aura Sync)
Arbeitsspeicher: DDR4 32GB PC 3200 CL16 CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Kit (2x16GB)
GPU: 8GB Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8G (GDDR6, HDMI, 3x DP)
Netzteil: 750 Watt Corsair RM750 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular
Speicher:
M.2: WD_BLACK SN750 SE 500GB PCIe Gen4 NVMe (bis zu 3600 MB/s Lese-Geschwindigkeit)
1 TB SSD
Kühlung: MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R CPU-Wasserkühlungskit
Gehäuse: METALLICGAR NEO Qube, Dual Tempered Glass Design, Digital-RGB Lighting, White
Zusätzliche Features:

Lüfter:
Corsair LL120 RGB LED PWM (Dreierpack mit Lighting Node PRO) weiß
ARCTIC P12 PWM weiß/transparent
Lüftersteuerung: Corsair Commander PRO digitaler Lüfter- und RGB Beleuchtung-Controller Is this good enough for playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 Multiplayer on CD Road ?

i just want to know if this is good for a beginner

[latent aurora]

Doesn't look too bad tbh

[raw hull]

Is this your build or one you're thinking of purchasing?

[toxic grove]

purchase

[raw hull]

It's a solid build, but if you can find one with a slightly cheaper CPU maybe a 5600, or 5600x CPU and a better GPU: 6700 xt then it would be ideal.

The 5700 xt is a great GPU, but its a little old and not very efficient. So it does like chomping through power.

[tribal violet]

Here we go

So, Last year, I upgraded RAM from 16GB to 32GB, All sticks are matched and should run at 3600Mhz. For whatever reason i couldn't seem to run at full XMP of 3600Mhz, I had to set it down to 3200Mhz instead. Made a reddit post regarding it, I was told either update my BIOS, or manually clock it with a higher voltage.

1 year later, I randomly thought to update my BIOS, which was a year old. I decided to re-enable XMP at 3600Mhz to see if it would be stable. I couldn't get to the end of a benchmark on GTA V, Had one "aw snap" error on Google chrome, then having to restart to reset the XMP back to 3200mhz the PC decided to Bluescreen.

Did some more testing last night, I'm able to run 3400mhz on normal XMP with the IMC controlling it as standard. 3400Mhz has been stable. But i'd like to run at full 3600mhz. Even if it means i have to add more voltage. Given that i'm given a step by step with it .

Specs are:

Motherboard: MSI B550 A-Pro
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (Autoclocked with BIOS)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 32GB (8x4) @ 3400Mhz (Advertised 3600mhz)

[sinful monolith]

is it a 4x8 kit or two 2x8 kits? or do you have the model number for the memory, something like CMW32GX4M4C3200C16

[tribal violet]

Model Number: ‎CMW16GX4M2D3600C18

The kit is 8x2, But i ofc have 4 of them.

[agile ermine]

Sometimes XMP doesn't work properly, especially with Corsair sticks, you have to manually set a profile

Also, are you sure the latencies are matching ?

[tribal violet]

Yeah, they do match.

[severe sage]

You might also be reaching hardware limitations with your CPU and/or mobo running quad channel at 3600. A quick search shows a fair few others who struggled to reach those frequencies on 5600x's, albeit on other mobos.

[agile ermine]

His mobo supports up to 4400MHz ram, shouldn't be an issue

Just manually apply a ram profile instead of using xmp and you'll be good

[tribal violet]

Interestingly enough, my brother has the same CPU, Different motherboard. Same 4 sticks of ram. Runs at 3600mhz without issues.

[severe sage]

Interesting

[agile ermine]

Just Corsair stuff, its fairly common to run into xmp issues with ddr4 vengeance sticks

[severe sage]

In my experience though quad channel on ryzen can be a bit iffy, but I'd try what @agile ermine suggested anyway.

[agile ermine]

Running 4 sticks with a 5800X, had zero issues (HyperX sticks, though)

[tribal violet]

When you say manually apply. What do you mean? Not much of a fan of "overclocking" as such.

[severe sage]

Well, XMP is technically overclocking

[tribal violet]

I know but xmp is usually easier as a profile

But manually

[agile ermine]

There should be a list of presets with the frequency and latencies somewhere in the bios iirc

[tribal violet]

Right now, set to 3400. It's not under a pre-selected profile.

[severe sage]

Worst case scenario it won't boot, I'll let mister deal with it though as he seems fairly knowledgeable with corsair products.

[tribal violet]

@agile ermine

[agile ermine]

Hang on, trying to find the right way

[tribal violet]

[agile ermine]

So, if you enable A-XMP and choose one of the profiles it doesn't work, right?

[tribal violet]

Correct

Using any profile is unstable. Even idling will cause issues, Google Chrome etc

[agile ermine]

So, try to set the dram frequency at 3600, and then go to advanced dram configuration and set the timings to 18-22-22-22-42

And Let the command rate to auto

If its still unstable, that probably means the ram is faulty

[tribal violet]

That's default. Or auto rather

[agile ermine]

Should be fine then... Maybe setting the command rate at 2 instead of 1 could help stabilize the system if you're running into some issues

[tribal violet]

Okay lemme try this for now. See how stable it is.

Rebooted and I now don't have a graphics driver. Lovely start

[agile ermine]

Uh

That shouldn't be related

[tribal violet]

Pressed f10 in the BIOS. Pc completely shut down then booted

I can't even unpackage a driver. 7 zip error

Lemme attempt to ddu whatever I have left of this driver

I guess not

Classic. Blue screen. Dram light on the board is lit up

[agile ermine]

Rip

Try modifying the command rate then

[tribal violet]

Set it back to 3400mhz. I have a loaded graphics driver too

Command rate to 1T, 2T or Gear down mode?

[agile ermine]

2t

[tribal violet]

Alrighty. Rebooting once again

Of all things, discord isn't loading

Okay, 1 entire restart fixed it

Another boot failure. All I wanted to do was boot into safe mode.

I'll reset back to 3400mhz

[agile ermine]

Might be a faulty kit then

[raw hull]

iirc Ryzen 5000 doesn't support quad channel

Even if you use 4 sticks it will still run at dual channel speeds

[severe sage]

Yeah only dual channel unfortunately, not that is a major issue for most users though.

[faint anchor]

Yo anybody know why my mouse cursor starts glitching around and making a beeping noise (windows 11 btw)

It’s getting very annoying

Can’t use my pc when it’s doing it, and it usually lasts about 5 or so minutes

Restarting my pc is pretty much the only way to fix it atm

[fresh echo]

is an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor with a Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card a good mix?

[fresh echo]

talk to bing AI about the issue or see some YT vid to solve it

[faint anchor]

ive looked on google, adn youtube

cant find anything about it

[hidden shell]

Yes

[fresh echo]

thank GOD

after 3 months of pc part research lol

i can also go for a XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card

[fresh echo]

buy a new mouse?

[faint anchor]

have done

[fresh echo]

dang , update windows

[faint anchor]

no updates for it

[fresh echo]

CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor €402.90
CPU Cooler
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler €116.84
Motherboard
Asus ROG STRIX X670E-I GAMING WIFI Mini ITX AM5 Motherboard €422.05
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory €146.85
Video Card
Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card €879.67
Case
Corsair 2000D AIRFLOW Mini ITX Tower Case €88.90
Power Supply
Corsair SF1000L 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply €181.00

small but POWERFUL

[severe sage]

I'd probably go for a cheaper motherboard personally, 422 euros is quite a lot for just a motherboard, especially itx.

[spiral yew]

also good luck trying to get the 4070ti in a mini itx case

that thing is gonna be so noisy with hardly any airflow

[celest nova]

Did something with new old stock hardware

[raw hull]

Yeah, solid build

[fresh echo]

it will fit

[fresh echo]

well yeah i could go for a cheaper Motherboard but i rather give some quality to my build ( to last some generations with min upgrades )

[fresh echo]

and 442,6 euros more on accessories and fans lol

total cost €2680.81

uhm , is it okay to mount Razer Kunai Chroma 65.5 CFM 120 mm Fans on the AIO ? (edit: i know these fans are kinda bad for it lol)

here in my country a 3 pack costs €148.00😭

[simple citrus]

a 3 pack of what? corsair's latest fans? xd

with the new ICUE link, starter pack

that is indeed 150-160

the corsair AF120 3-pack should be about 70€

[agile ermine]

70€ for 3 fans is still insanely expensive, you can get 3 arctic P12 rgb for almost half the price

[simple citrus]

which software does arctic use? they also got their own?

if you don't want rgb fans you could just get the ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack

30€

[agile ermine]

Yeah, they have their own, with their own controller as well (fairly cheap though, 22€)

[severe sage]

That's fair reasoning but remember motherboards have a fairly different upgrade cycle than other components, and in this case am5 is likely only up to 2026. Still a long time yes, with probably 2 generations before am6, but something to just bear in mind.

[fresh echo]

👍

[azure quarry]

my g920 reaches 100% braking before it's fully down, can i fix it?

when i am like 2cm from how much i can brake it's at 100%

i removed brake rubber also

[simple citrus]

can't you like calibrate it

let the software know where 0 and 100% is

[uncut scarab]

Any recommendations for a gaming keyboard max 60 euros 100% size (preffered azerty)

[fresh echo]

yes , i will send in dm because i dont have pic perms here

[sinful monolith]

you can get access to share images by linking your truckersmp account

[fresh echo]

k

[boreal basin]

anyone know how to fix a bogged down power supply fan?

[raw hull]

If its just dust, then a vacuum or air duster might solve the problem. But I wouldn't recommend opening the PSU up unless you don't mind voiding your warranty. Speaking of warranties you might be able to get a replacement if its still within warranty.

But depending on your PSU wattage and manufacturing company you may not even need the fan tbh. I have a EVGA Supernova G2 750 watt, which has a fan but I haven't seen it turn on once in eco mode.

[hushed kestrel]

those cans of compressed air can do well but if it's really clogged used a brush

like the guy above said please don't open it

[grizzled crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Oj0psMaCs

oofie

[spiral yew]

I watched that last night but he has enough money to replace all that

[raw hull]

True dat

[next dawn]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6537002.p?skuId=6537002

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6542160.p?skuId=6542160

First or second I'm thinking first

[agile ermine]

Uh

These laptops are extremely different

[celest nova]

both are crap, doesn't change the fact though that the second one is faster

[next dawn]

As long as the laptop works for ATS and ETS2 I'll be good

[simple citrus]

a potato can run those games

[errant fox]

can someone please help me as my files are apparently missing some files when i go to launch mp and click on simulation 1 or 2 i get a error message come up saying cant find mod ect and i have been through my files and as far as i am aware they are all there but i may be missing something with maybe someone elses eyes as a fresh set of eyes might pick up on my issue

[frail shale]

hello so i just installed the game ets 2 and there is no sound at all i tried everything i dont know how to solve it any ideas? (only ets 2 sound is not working other games are working fine)

[sand valley]

Hi best budget wheel on ets ?

[grizzled crow]

G25

[stone thunder]

My PC is on life support

[spiral yew]

what you mean?

[tranquil delta]

hrllo

[simple citrus]

the front panel is off

[zenith jetty]

I think, his pc wouldn't make it without some air yesterday from event

[fading violet]

Guys I found a Logitech g27 steering wheel for a good price and it’s in really good condition you think it’s worth it

[vernal crystal]

if you keep most actions on your keyboard then yea, but ask if you can turn the wheel before buying it

[fading violet]

Yeah i can i already asked that he also sent me a video want to see it?

[vernal crystal]

sure

[fading violet]

I sent it

Dm

[stone thunder]

True

Barely got 30 FPS

[zenith jetty]

Not even 20

[prime ridge]

guys my logitech g29 shifter is broken

it was working yesterday and today its not working

5th gear is natural, and 6th gear is the same gear as 4th like wtf

[plucky meadow]

I don't have any experience with shifters but what did you try already?

I'm just thinking of some options as update some drivers or something of that shifter

[prime ridge]

i just launched the game and it didnt work

[prime ridge]

yes im looking at that atm

[plucky meadow]

Or take a look in the settings in the game if it just didn't messed up somehow the "layout" or how to call it 😄

[prime ridge]

i checked even in assetto corsa its the shifter

[plucky meadow]

Yea, then I would try first these drivers or something

Or if Logitech has some special program for steering wheel and shifter

[prime ridge]

my logitech g hub is not opening i guess i found the problme

[plucky meadow]

Probably 😄

[sand valley]

Hello does somebody have wheel i need help with setting

[plucky meadow]

Which one do you have btw? I could help later if you have for example Thrustmaster

[sand valley]

ok wait

Seaborg400

[fervent scaffold]

ETS 2 settings or?

[sand valley]

ets2 no just setting on the wheel bc i hate that when im at menu and i turn lft or right the wheel the mouse will move and i dont want that

[worthy panther]

guys do someone have an idea how to make a diy clutch because i have thrustmaster 2 pedals

and i dont wanna buy new pedals for 100 euros

[compact elk]

Can you help me as well? I just ordered MOZA R5, do you know how to set it up???

[plucky meadow]

I have no experience with MOZA R5 but should be simple. I guess they will have also special program for this steering wheel since it’s not cheap one. In ETS then you will just choose steering wheel and check the basic things if they are set correct - things as throttle, brake etc

[compact elk]

Thank you so much. I really bought the tech because I want to play ETS2 and really get to it, not play racing games, so I was a bit worried that it wouldn't be good in the sense that I might not be able to set it up cos I am not techy to begin with. Anyway, thank you Tokyy.

[plucky meadow]

@compact elk Most of these should be pretty simple to setup. And if not, there should be installation guide in the box or some videos on YouTube. There are three types when comes to steering wheels Force Feedback - direct drive wheels, belt-driven wheels and gear-driven racing wheels. Direct drive is the best one but it’s more expensive, that's the reason why your steering wheel is way more expensive than mine (I have Thrustmaster T300 RS GT which has belt). Of course you would feel it probably more in some racing games as F1 but if you have money for it, why not, good choice

[compact elk]

Yes... I was thinking, if I ever fall in love with driving games aside from ETS2 then I wouldn't have to pay another for direct drive. If I dont and I decide to stay with ETS2 then no harm done...right?

[plucky meadow]

Exactly

[clear karma]

Guys I need help

I have ets2 from steam

And it runs smoothly at 60 fps but like every 5 seconds the fps gets stuck

Like the game freezes for 2 seconds

Then the fps is like 10 then it goes back to 60 like 4 seconds after that

And again freezes

[simple citrus]

💀

[simple citrus]

is your pc a potato?

[clear karma]

It's a laptop

And it's worse than a potato

Intel hd 3000

😭

But I kinda fixed jt

[lucid lintel]

can someone help me

nvm

[simple citrus]

turn off the cabin physics, and uh the setting that shows cables on other trucks

could also lower the scaling, should standard be on 100%

and the reflection scaling

[rustic mango]

Hi, i'm kinda new here. In my bottom right corner it says 'Steam Offline". Do I have to worry about that or doesn't that make any differences?

[sand valley]

i have it also

[clear karma]

I'm using 50%

[clear karma]

Thanks I'll test it tomorrow

[hasty marlin]

Steam goes off line on a Tuesday, only problems that do occur are steam achievements not counting and cloud saves, this isn't every time but it is annoying when they do it.

[fading violet]

Guys you think it’s worth trading my really old ps4 but in really good condition for a Logitech g27 which is also in really good condition

I never play on ps4 I have a good pic

Pc

[zinc crest]

if you dont use something anymore, its best to sell it and buy something you would use

[hushed kestrel]

I mean yeah if you can get a decent price

ps4 is 10 yrs old

still going for expensive prices

relative to the xbox ones that are like $50-100

[hushed kestrel]

for me it's kinda similar

12400f/1050ti and I get stutters every now and then

max graphics cause uhh it still runs at a consistent 60fps++

[azure quarry]

what kind of specs would i need to run ets2 at 1080 60fps on ultra with everything max on singleplayer no mods

60fps in the really new areas like wb

[vestal shoal]

Well, you need to get some expensive equipment/specs, to achieve stable 60 fps count...
There isn't a chart saying how much fps you can get if you have this or that...

Sooo, anything above recomended setup on ets2 steam store page, should be enough

[flint egret]

Probably a Ryzen 5 (any R5 should be enough), RTX 3050, 16GB of ram

[azure quarry]

do you know an intel equivalent

[flint egret]

I got pretty close specs to that on my laptop and I get 45-60fps on Ultra preset on 1440p

[flint egret]

Newer i5 or older i7

[azure quarry]

alr

because i was looking for laptops i found one with an rtx 3050 ti 16gb ram ddr4 and i7 12700

[flint egret]

That should be enough imo

[hasty marlin]

I have a Lenovo Legion 5, RTX3060, 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11400H @ 2.70GHz 2.69 GHz and 8.00 GB (7.77 GB usable), or as it tells me anyway and the game runs well at 80fps on single player with a few mods, it runs about 40 -80fps on TMP depending on busy areas.

[simple citrus]

No PC can handle Calais or Duisberg on TMP

[mighty idol]

[hasty marlin]

Average between 1 and 20fsp for most people in Calais, even people with high end pcs get massive fps drops there.

[spiral yew]

Not enough RGB 😂

[wary oyster]

😂

i nées upgrade 🙏🏽

need

[kind viper]

I thought that was a pyramid type pc for a second

Looks like a stock cooler?

cpu

[wary oyster]

yes but my cpu is not good ...

[kind viper]

which cpu you got?

[wary oyster]

i play full ultra 300% 120-140fps in truckermp

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz

[kind viper]

not that old..

only 5 generations

4 years old

[wary oyster]

mmh

[kind viper]

waiting for ryzen 8000

[wary oyster]

oh nice

[kind viper]

leaks looks good, but hoping amd will reduce IHS height

[wary oyster]

yes

why gpu u have ? (sorry for my english, im french)

[kind viper]

I run a laptop

[wary oyster]

oh ok

[kind viper]

For my desktop build I was planning to do a 6800 xt

[wary oyster]

oh okkk

i have nvidia RTX3060

[kind viper]

may do rx 7900 xt if the prices get low enough

[wary oyster]

but i don't know how many core it is

hearth

i don't kknow

[kind viper]

lowest 7900 xt is like 700 USD, while 6800 xt is like 499 USD

hurts

[wary oyster]

ahhh okkk nice

[kind viper]

wdym

[wary oyster]

???

[kind viper]

you said how many cores to the 3060

which is public on nvidia's spec list

[wary oyster]

where ?

[kind viper]

"I don't know how cores it is"

[wary oyster]

yes but

[kind viper]

Just confused on the core part of your message

[wary oyster]

rtx3060 8gb, 6gb ... i don't know

[kind viper]

you could check no?

[wary oyster]

where ?

[kind viper]

task manager

under that GPU (peformance tab

or look up the model if you got that

[kind viper]

12 gb

[wary oyster]

wow

[kind viper]

Should be that memorie du gpu de

[wary oyster]

its nice ?

good* ?

[kind viper]

you got a lot of memory to play with

[wary oyster]

okok nice

[kind viper]

12 is avg I guess

[wary oyster]

nice ahah

[kind viper]

like the amount mid range cards would have

[wary oyster]

600€ this pc xD

[kind viper]

damn

[wary oyster]

because its urgence of my friend for money

[kind viper]

9700f and 3060

not bad

[wary oyster]

yes its nice

and 16gb ddr4

for ets2 its perfect with g29

[kind viper]

16 gig man

I wish I had 32 gb

[wary oyster]

wow

i need 32 to

[kind viper]

gaming with excel and tabs open, ye...

[wary oyster]

But I don't know anything about PC

[kind viper]

It's a fun hobby imo

[wary oyster]

yes

[rustic moat]

amd gpus are kinda bad

[ionic jasper]

Guys i have small question. If i want to buy water cooling for my PC i need to know Socket or not ? because normal cooler needs socket like LGA 1156

[kind viper]

I'm not after dlss or rtx. AMD is the better option at least right now.

Could go rtx 3000s but again the rx 6000s and rtx 3000 are close together ish

[rustic moat]

i had an amd amd the drivers are just bad

i had the 6700 xt

and switched to a 3070, its much better

software and hardware wise

[celest nova]

RTX 3070 is a pain in the ass

and I own one

built PCs with RX 6650 XT, RX 6700 XT & RX 6900 XT. All went like a breeze.

But on NVIDIA side too, only issue is VRAM and price.

[ionic jasper]

.

[rustic moat]

6700 xt is pain, software was bad and payd 700€ or smth back then for shi performance

[kind viper]

Could be better now tho.

[vivid nova]

I've currently got the 6700XT and the specs on paper are good, but real world performance could be better

The driver support is pretty poor and isn't updated frequently enough to support newer games smoothly

Which results in pretty poor performance when it should be better, I personally would never recommend an AMD GPU

[severe sage]

I wouldn't say drivers will be a huge factor performance wise now for any AMD 6000s series, pre 2019 cards, sure there were issues but I'd probably say the worse than expected performance is either a poorly optimised game or pre-emptive overconfidence in what a 6700xt actually performs like.

[simple bobcat]

me who has a rx 6750 xt

[kind sapphire]

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[spiral yew]

also me who has a 6900 xt and can run starfield on ultra graphics

[ionic jasper]

Thx

[queen finch]

Me whose with a 3060 xD

[sand valley]

i´v got rx6600 and play it on ultra

[fading violet]

Guys do you think thrustmaster t150 is good for starting simulation racing especially for ets

[vernal crystal]

ets2 is not a racing sim but oke

[grave rivet]

has anybody heard from southern trucker gaming lately?

[final iris]

You sure?? Ive got an RX 580

[simple citrus]

I got the RX6900 XT, I don't have any issues

[misty shale]

Hello

I need help

When many players plays is the game stocking all the time

What I can do

[agile ermine]

wdym ? The game is lagging a lot when there's a lot of players around ? I f that's the case, there's nothing you can do, even the most powerful PCs can't run the game smoothly in highly populated areas

[misty shale]

Ok thanks for the help

[misty shale]

Can It be the Internet problem?

I played today and I was really laging

[agile ermine]

not an internet issue, that doesn't cause game stuttering on TMP

[hushed kestrel]

bro I have a 1050ti 😭

[hushed kestrel]

close other apps, turn up the graphics to remove load from your cpu, truckersmp is cpu bound

unless you have a built in gpu in which case you should turn down the graphics

[hushed kestrel]

usually that's because you're using wireless wifi, which isn't recommended due to latency, I'd suggest using ethernet if possible

[hushed kestrel]

it is, usually stuttering is caused by high ping, due to being far away from tmp servers most likely

I get 300ms ish on tmp and my truck stutters all the time, though it never stutters when playing built in multiplayer, probably because it's hosted locally and I often play with friends from the same city as me

so less ping

[spiral yew]

i've had studdering on single player only games so studdering is not a net thing you are talking about lag

[hushed kestrel]

that's not stuttering lol, those are lag spikes usually caused by playing on a crap hard drive or crap cpu

[spiral yew]

lag spikes are a internet thing go look it up

[hushed kestrel]

idk man I don't see internet anywhere in the list

stuttering is caused by internet

lag spikes are caused by hardware

[spiral yew]

it's network related

[hushed kestrel]

stuttering yes

like your car moving forward and backwards not normally

lag spikes, where the game freezes for a few seconds is often hardware

[spiral yew]

the reason you don't have lag spikes playing convoy mode is due to it being a peer to peer hosting

[hushed kestrel]

I never get lag spikes ever, I only stutter in tmp

and I get 300ms ping

[spiral yew]

let's say you host a convoy mode server in ets2 you won't notice the lag spikes cause you are the host

[hushed kestrel]

I never host convoys lol

all my convoys are from people in my city

[spiral yew]

ets2 was never made for tmp

[hushed kestrel]

yeah I'm aware

I don't know how thats related but ok

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-difference-between-lag-stutter-and-why-it-matters.1939376/

lag is when your game just freezes, like when you're in a populated area and your gpu goes on life support

stutter is notoriously associated with high ping, which is a network issue

like when you have trucks moving forward and backward randomly and you gotta keep distance

[agile ermine]

bad ping causes other trucks to freeze, but not yours, afaik

[hushed kestrel]

mine can sometimes move jaggedly

I'd be driving forwards smoothly and then the truck stops for a fraction of a second

my cpu is decent, better than most of the people playing on 5 year old laptops

[agile ermine]

keep in mind TMP is hard to run, so if you have slow hardware it can cause stuttering even when there's not that many players around

freezes can also be caused by autosave

[hushed kestrel]

runs the same on my 11320h as it does on my 12400f

[agile ermine]

cpu doesn't matter

gpu does

[hushed kestrel]

same ping though

[hushed kestrel]

wtf this is a 12 year old game no it damn isn't gpu bound lol

this isn't starfield

like city skylines 2, where there's a lot of ai and stuff, it's mostly cpu bound

[hushed kestrel]

not to mention they have far different gpus too, iris xe vs a 1050ti

[agile ermine]

... you're complaining about stuttering while playing with an iGPU ?

[hushed kestrel]

never have I had autosave make me lag, you gotta be running on some ancient hard drive to lag because of autosaves

[agile ermine]

and even a 1050 Ti isn't fast by any means...

[hushed kestrel]

the game isn't gpu bound

I literally just told you

people get the same framerates on a 3070 as they do on a gtx 970

the truck textures aren't in 4k

[agile ermine]

oh, so following your way of thinking you could put even the crappiest nvidia GT series and still have an acceptable framerate as long as you're running a core i9 ? That's not how it works

[hushed kestrel]

I'm saying if you have a half decent gpu, you won't notice a massive improvement if you upgrade to a better gpu

my framerate stays the same when switching from low to high graphics, give or take 10fps

[agile ermine]

talk in %, not in fps

[hushed kestrel]

that clearly proves my point of the game not at all being gpu bound

[agile ermine]

10fps is meaningful if you're running at 60

[hushed kestrel]

I get 120-140

@agile ermine using your mentality, apparently this gpu should not at all be lagging #tech message

[agile ermine]

also, that's complete bullshit

[hushed kestrel]

whats your source of this game being cpu bou d

[agile ermine]

you will have stutter with any gpu in populated areas, just not to the same extent

[agile ermine]

any comparison video will show it. even a GTX 1060 will be a solid 60% improvement over a 1050 Ti

[hushed kestrel]

they will all stutter... you just proved my point?

#official-events message

#support message

[agile ermine]

no? I've litteraly said it will not stutter to the same extent

[hushed kestrel]

truckersmp is cpu bound

[agile ermine]

which means it stutters, but not as much

[hushed kestrel]

what do you consider is not stuttering?

[agile ermine]

so where a slow gpu will produce a slideshow, a powerfull one will produce an unstable 30fps average, for example

[hushed kestrel]

I've gone to Calais on my iris xe, 1050ti and my friends 2080ti machine and saw a 3fps difference

[agile ermine]

and I'd bet your friend actually has a decent cpu ? That would mean it's not cpu bound either, then

[hushed kestrel]

8700k

compared to a 12400f...?

like 20% cpu difference at best?

[agile ermine]

and keep in mind all that thread started off a "networking issue"

[hushed kestrel]

stutters are a networking issue

lag spikes are a pc issue

[agile ermine]

again, if you have a high ping, you will see other players lag but not yours

[hushed kestrel]

the game is cpu bound

[agile ermine]

stuttering is not a networking issue. That's never the case

[hushed kestrel]

how come some players lag to the point where their truck flies yet some others are smooth af? does that look like an issue on MY side?

[agile ermine]

your truck doesn't magically start flying. Other players might see your truck flying, but you won't

[hushed kestrel]

if I go to task manager and set my cpu to only use 1 core in ets2, it will lag spike but it won't get those small annoying stutters as often

[hushed kestrel]

I've seen trucks start flying when going downhill into a tunnel, didn't record it but if you don't wanna believe me then don't 🤷‍♂️

[hushed kestrel]

when I get back home I will try it, and report my findings

https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/topic/113884-truckersmp-doesnt-use-my-gpu/

this guy's gpu shits on mine, yet he has the same cpu

same framerate

proves that truckersmp is cpu bound

lag spikes are caused by cpu

and lag in general

stutters are from packet loss and being far from tmp servers

[hushed kestrel]

updating the bios on walmart computers lol

[kind viper]

ooh

[hushed kestrel]

one of them took 45 minutes to reboot and update

windows ran at less fps than i do in calais

the bios update did pretty much double the framerate from like 10fps to 20

so windows became somewhat usable

or maybe the laptop just needed a restart and thats it

[kind viper]

surprised it ran that high with what looks like to be integrated intel graphics

I can't tell what generation it is

xe?

[hushed kestrel]

running windows

not tmp

[kind viper]

oh

[hushed kestrel]

I'm not logging onto steam onto some random laptop lol

[hushed kestrel]

intel hd 600 if I recall correctly

had an n4020

[kind viper]

20 fps on windows

that's something....

[hushed kestrel]

yep

[kind viper]

might as well put that into a phone...

[hushed kestrel]

there was a model at staples that had a worse cpu

same laptop

[kind viper]

good lord...

[hushed kestrel]

n4000

took about 5 whole minutes to open edge

[kind viper]

It's better than my intel HD Graphics 2000

the desktop is still running on windows 8.1, window 10 kills it

[hushed kestrel]

no it damn isnt

[hushed kestrel]

throw in an ssd and call it a day

"i cant afford ssd"

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#sort=price&t=0

boom easy way to make any old laptop/desktop fast again

[kind viper]

Its fine with an hdd

It can run mc and that's all I care for when I have it.

[hushed kestrel]

windows 8 is kinda old man

[kind viper]

Ik

[agile ermine]

@hushed kestrel about our chat from yesterday, just wanted to confirm you had no idea what you were talking about, so I launched the game on my laptop and desktop. My desktop gets +-14fps in Calais, my laptop averages 8. Keep in mind my laptop has a slightly faster cpu, had a similar number of players around me in both cases (+-130), and both PCs have the exact same settings.

so yeah, basically you were wrong

tbh I wasn't even expecting such a big difference, given my laptop's GPU isn't that much slower than my desktop's

[hushed kestrel]

what are your specs

and can i get screenshots?

[severe sage]

Neither of you are wrong. TMP/ETS2 isn't specifically cpu or gpu bound, it's both. The main issue is the game engine being as both of you said, pretty old. I would say that from my experience that performance does rely a bit more on cpu than gpu however, especially in busy areas.

[agile ermine]

So, game engine limitations ? not surprising, in a way... However, as I just stated, in busy areas it seems like it is very GPU-limited

[agile ermine]

laptop has a Ryzen 7840HS, 32Gb of 5600MT/s DDR5 and a RTX 4060. Desktop has a Ryzen 5800X, 32Gb of 3600MT/s DDR4 and a RTX 3070 Ti. And you won't get any screenshots because im busy and too lazy to turn the laptop back on.

[hushed kestrel]

truckersmp doesnt help the cpu either

makes it worse if anything

[severe sage]

Pretty much yeah, you can even see in task manager that ETS2 is pretty poor at utilising all available resources on higher end systems, especially higher core counts. It's to be expected really as at it's core it's running of an engine built for 2012.

[hushed kestrel]

they apparently dont wanna use 3rd party engines because they are too "limited"

[hushed kestrel]

as in the game engines being limited

[simple citrus]

laptop hardware is slower than desktop hardware, cuz it's packed in a smaller space and therefor can't run as fast/cool

[simple citrus]

and they would cost more to license and use

[agile ermine]

Not necessarily. In my case, my laptop' cpu is newer than my desktop's cpu, so it's still slightly faster despite needing half the power. And the RTX 4060 is a very efficient gpu, in its 140w laptop version it basically is a desktop 4060. A good laptop will also be cooled just fine.

[simple citrus]

[fading violet]

Guys i found a thrustmaster t150 pro with a Logitech g shifter and adapter for 300 dollars but I also found a Logitech g27 set for 220 dollars which one should I buy both are used

[vital anchor]

I choose the 220$, since is cheaper and "is better than nothing" that I actually have

[hushed kestrel]

keyboard warriors?

[vital anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-palpatine-unlimitedpower-power-gif-20519259

[hushed kestrel]

[fluid siren]

Playstation Controller

[viral dome]

I have been having trouble with my g920 steering wheel, its not centering

any one knows a fix?

[pallid gate]

I think there are settings in ets2 about wheel centering,if that doesn't work,check if you have the driver for the steering wheel you're using.

[hushed kestrel]

is there software from the manufacturer to calibrate it?

[polar lance]

Wydm

[viral dome]

Its not a software issue all the drivers are up to date. I mean it doesn’t go to back to the center after steering, it just stays there until I force it back

[grave rivet]

does anybody have a way to reach southern trucker gaming? his facebook and website are completely gone. and i still havent got my shifter from him

[unkempt ridge]

Looks like you got scammed

[simple citrus]

[untold mango]

what do u guys recommand for a steering wheel

[hasty marlin]

Logetch g27 is a popular one but us expensive

[vernal crystal]

g29 & g290 are also good, but again expensive like the g27

[hasty marlin]

It might have been the g29 I was thinking of lol

[untold mango]

^^'

thanks

[lunar spire]

@viral dome Dissasemble the housing and secure the hall sensor tight.

[pliant comet]

Is the wheel not doing centering force, or is the detected wheel position not synced with the physical angle? If G Hub doesn't update the angle at all while moving the wheel, consider checking the power supply and its connection with wall socket on input side.

[viral dome]

its not doing the centering force

[pliant comet]

If you set G Hub's desktop profile to not provide centering force at all, the wheel won't center itself while on desktop. Below the slider used to change custom centering force amount in G Hub, there's tickbox, which will allow you to set custom centering force. If unticked, the wheel should center itself, since it will use default centering force value. You can click 🔓 to make the current settings be applied to all profiles. When settings are being applied to all profiles , the icon will change to 🔒. Pressing that will allow you to adjust setting on per-profile basis. When that mode is active, the icon will change to 🔓.

[glass vapor]

what do u guys recommand for a steering wheel
@untold mango Logitech wheels are good, I suppose.

I'm stuck with a steering wheel that only turns 270 degrees. Damn it.

[viral dome]

Alright I will try it. Thanks for the help.

[stone vale]

Late answer but for starters an older wheel like an logitech driving force gt could be a good way. I bought mine few years ago used with some extra stuff for 50 or 60€ and i think it is a great start into wheels (specially for people who are unsure how much the wanna spend).

[untold mango]

:D tnk u

[spare oracle]

.

[kind sapphire]

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[misty shale]

Hello

When will come the New ets2 Update 1.49

[proud needle]

Hello

When ready

[mighty idol]

I don't really think this is related to tech anyway

[hollow gyro]

guys can you suggest me some games which are good with wheel?

[lyric vale]

T300 RS GT

[pallid gate]

I think there is a site that gives you all the answers,I think is called Google but I could be wrong

[rustic obsidian]

need a tech master, I run a rtx 3060 and the HDMI has been working flawlessly the last few days, alltough i started my pc today and it didnt work, i have 2 screens, one running hdmi the other running display port. Pc doesnt recognize hdmi anymore. I installed the latest version of the driver for the gpu, also the one i had before none of em work, not even the other screen when i plug it in to the hdmi port. any help?

[pallid gate]

Check on Nvidia Control Panel if your monitor is selected

Also Use Windows+P for more monitor options

[pliant comet]

Have you checked if the monitor is actually turned on? The monitor won't be seen by the system if it's not turned on.

[pallid gate]

It needs only power and connection between pc and monitor,turning it on makes no difference,my 2nd monitor is off (only connected to the pc/Power) and the pc still recognises it

[spiral yew]

Have you tried the same cable on the other monitor

[burnt harness]

guys what is the use of product keys?

[hasty marlin]

Please don't advertise selling games as it against the rules. Rule 4.1

Don't want to see you get punished for it

[west phoenix]

[hasty marlin]

Or am I wrong on this Soul?

[kind viper]

Never expected I would expected to buy a Samsung phone

Here I am today after I just bought a Samsung s23+ for uni cause my old phone was too old to run their apps...

[sand valley]

Hello

[sand valley]

Wannabe moderator alert

So. 2 things.

1. how much of a difference will a router make if your internet is awful?

2. does anyone have starlink roam and if yes what speeds are you getting?

[spiral yew]

Don't expect to be getting fiber speeds unless you wanna pay an arm and a leg for it

[sand valley]

My current speeds are 2.7mbps download (yes... megabits not megabytes) and 0.2mbps upload

And i currently have the fastest traditional internet available where i live

So im wondering. 1) will new router make huge difference?
2) what speeds are people getting on starlink roam as thats the only option i have left

[pallid gate]

Depending the country,for example in romania 500 mpbs is 15-20 euros per month

[pallid gate]

Where are you from buddy,if you're getting the speeds you're telling a more expensive router will make no difference

[sand valley]

uk

i pay 33 euros a month

[kind sapphire]

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[sand valley]

Damn 😦

[kind viper]

wish I did

[clever spire]

I’m in the UK and pay less for 1000mbps symmetrical 😂 you’re getting scammed mate

[pallid gate]

In greece for 30 mpbs you pay 35 euros wdym xD

[grizzled crow]

Ikr

[swift cape]

when servers gonna get a restart they need it

[sand valley]

No. Im lucky to get internet at all. This is the fastest internet possible where i live in uk

[pallid gate]

With satelite you can get more but I guess you would pay more

[sand valley]

Yes for starlink it costs £449 for the dish, £20 for shipping and then it costs £85 per month

[hasty marlin]

Can't wait to move house so I can set my system up properly with a hard line instead of WiFi

[agile ermine]

85£/month for Starlink ? UK getting scammed as usual...

[hasty marlin]

UK has some really good speeds on fibre optic but you need to be close to the base stations and not every street has availability to the best companies so have to settle for overpriced slower speeds a lot of the time

[sand valley]

Sadly yes misterclic and true simon or if you live on one of the islands you are lucky to even get internet

[hasty marlin]

I now live out in the countryside and have low speeds, used to get the top speeds in the country when I lived in the city

[sand valley]

Did you see owl in canada speeds?

8000mbps download speed. 8000mbps upload speed

[agile ermine]

I don't get why Starlink is so expensive in some places, here its 40€/month for the same service... Is internet usually that expensive in the uk ?

[sand valley]

Everything is expensive here now 😭

[clever spire]

Internet seems to be the only price going down in the UK lol. I was paying £70/mo when I first got gigabit because it was still new-ish but now that it's been rolled out to most of the UK and is pretty standard in most major towns/cities I'm only paying £30

[fading violet]

Guys is The break pedal supposed to be harder to press than the gas pedal?

[hidden shell]

Yes

[fading violet]

But it’s pretty stiff that’s normal?

[hidden shell]

Depends on your pedals model, some have adjustments, some don't but they can be hard

[fading violet]

I have a g920 steering wheel set

[fading violet]

Guys I have a clutch pedal but the game doesn’t recognize it and I can drive without it. Do i need a h shifter for tur clutch pedal to Work ?

[pliant comet]

Technically, you need the clutch, however in ETS2 and ATS, if you don't assign it, the game will automatically use clutch for you when you change gear with H-Shifter. Clutch pedal is only used in H-Shifter mode. By the way, have you installed G Hub beforehand? @fading violet

[unkempt swan]

I mean, what's the point of clutch without h-shifter?

[agile ermine]

paddle-shifted sequential gearboxes

and that's pretty much it

[fading violet]

i have installed g hub but i want to use the clutch even though i dont have a h shifter

is it possible

[dim ingot]

Technically it's possible, but you would need to assign multiple keys for the seperate gears (R-1-2-3-4-5-6)

@fading violet

[fading violet]

Can’t I just use the shifters behind the wheel?

@dim ingot

[kind sapphire]

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[fading violet]

@kind sapphire but if I do get a h shifter the game will use the clutch right

[dim ingot]

Yes

[kind sapphire]

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[marble gorge]

Hi

[halcyon cloud]

hey

any tech genius who knows why my gamer laptop randomly restarts?

[hasty marlin]

You getting an error message?

[vernal crystal]

Im starting to think that i need a new phone my current one is 6/7 yo what would be a good replacement currently have a Motorola g8

[agile ermine]

depends of how much you're willing to pay for it

there's some good stuff in the 300-400€ range, but it can quickly climb very high

[vernal crystal]

That would mean looking and choosing carefully

[agile ermine]

depends of what you need

wether you just want a phone, or if you absolutely want a great screen, or if you're taking a lot of pictures, etc etc

[simple citrus]

Take a look at the Oneplus Nord phones

[earnest folio]

overheating

[stable summit]

or also youtube indian guy tutorial from 2018

[vernal crystal]

scam

[jagged vale]

Does a intel i7 fit in a i12 socket &

[spare mulch]

Anyone have the fanatec csl dd 5nm wheel here if so how good is it on ats

[raw hull]

what's an i12?

[limber anchor]

What would we say is better?
1x 1440p 34" wide-screen + 1x 1440p or 1080 second montitor
Or
3x normally monitors, 1x 4k and 2x 1080p?

Looking for any opinions!

[kind viper]

As for the first option, depends..

An ultra wide can be split into multiple parts which you an use. Unless this monitor is for gaming and you want the immersion, go for it.
I would pick for the 1080p as a second.

If it doesn't bother you, you could go triple, I wouldn't go 4k personally since you're pushing 3 monitors and 4k is... gonna be expensive to make it worth the additional pixel count and QoL. This would probs be the better option as you can (depends on the monitor sizes, 2x 27 inch + 16 inch laptop display is what I use) get more screen real estate compared to an ultra wide + second monitor

It's can also cheaper to buy 3 monitors, but at the end of the day it's all up to what are you willing to sacrifice?

You'll have to deal with the bezel (around the screen) for triple monitors as with ultrawide, it's all on 1 display. You can get less screen space if you go ultrawide + second screen vs triple screen (depending on the monitor sizes). Some games may support 21:9 aspect ratio (ultrawide's normal aspect ratio) and a lot may not.

Personally, I would go triple just so I can not deal with the extra pixel on the side when games don't support 21:9 and so I can other stuff on side monitors and overall more monitor space to put the random stuff I open and keep open

Cable management wise, the 1st option will be cleaner and easier to deal with. Mounting should be fairly simple, assuming you stacking them ontop of each other.

[simple citrus]

Who needs 3 monitors anyway, just get two 27" 1440p monitors

Use the left of right one for both discord and browser, the other one for games and fullscreen stuff

[sinful monolith]

Using 3x 4k with two of them split for 4 windows

[limber anchor]

Alright, I've decided on getting a second monitor. So I need a 1440p monitor. Since I won't be using it for gaming but just videos. Does anyone have recommendations?

[spiral yew]

My current setup with 3 27 inch and a 4th 23 in

[limber anchor]

How big is your desk?

[spiral yew]

60 x 30

[glass pendant]

Anyone able to give me a hand? I'm trying to find information on a specific laptop but I can't find anything with the model number, The laptop is in the link below 👇,

Some models say the brands laptops are made to be customised including the graphics card but I can't find information on this exact laptop,

So multi part question:

Is the 4gb graphics memory on this attached to the graphics card? If so would this be changeable by any chance?

(Any and all information is greatly appreciated!!)

https://www.harveynorman.com.au/hp-victus-15-6-inch-i7-12650h-16gb-512gb-ssd-rtx2050-4gb-gaming-laptop-mica-silver.html

Victus Gaming Laptop 15-fa1114TX

Is what the site says the model is

[agile ermine]

the rtx 2050 has 4GB of dedicated VRAM

and it is not possible to modify it

[glass pendant]

Do you know if it's possible to change the graphics card on this model? I can only find things for newer and older models that say you can, but nothing for this one

[agile ermine]

you can't change a laptop's graphics card

the only laptop that allows you to replace the gpu without having to replace the entire motherboard including the cpu as well is the Framework 16 afaik, but there's only 1 gpu available for it right now so it doesn't matter

[glass pendant]

I am getting my loose information about the changing of stuff from here sorry

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/tech-takes/victus-gaming-laptop-faq#:~:text=Yes%2C you can upgrade components,graphics card%2C and much more.

[sinful monolith]

that is so misleading HP should be fined for it

what that article is referring to is choosing higher end components when ordering the device

you can't swap out most of them after you've bought it

[agile ermine]

pretty sure that's illegal

they are litteraly saying you can upgrade components

but then again, it's HP, nobody should buy their garbage products

[glass pendant]

Fair enough...

In that case does anyone know if that laptop will run these games below, if not does anyone know of any good enough gaming laptops for under AUD$1000?
I would prefer it in Australia so I can get it faster, but at the same time I'm not too picky as it will be cheap..

Minecraft,
ATS/ETS2,
Albion Online,
Farming simulator,
Cities: skylines 1
(2 if physically possible but doubt it)

I also want to thank everyone who gave information, I greatly appreciate it!

Gotta love the gaming community!

[hasty marlin]

It's been out a couple of years now but the lenovo legion 5 is a real good gaming laptop and will run those no problem on ultra, not sure if avaliable where you are or price but it's now under £1000 in the UK. I Owen one and can't really fault it other than I can't open it to add more ram, but that is only because I don't know how

[glass pendant]

$1699 for the Lenovo Legion 5 in Australia, currency changes are bloody stupid

But I believe a chainsaw could work when it comes to opening stuff 🤣 but that would just be a heap of screws undenieth or its held on by clips all around the edges and what knot

[hasty marlin]

Ouch

[glass pendant]

Fair enough, thanks for that!

[glass pendant]

They won't even give you a free sticker for a kid let alone an extra HDD, the ones in my town are rude as hell, but I'm on a budget and this seems to be the only place my google has this laptop (the literal only link with that laptop)

But I'm going for a laptop as I'm getting my HR then HC license and I highly doubt a trucking company would allow me to hook up a PC and monitor in my little industrial town

Yeah at least my town they are absolutely rude and have no heart or care for their job,

Yeah, I'm going HR >MC, turns out after your year of HR you can skip HC and go straight to MC, I'd rather skip HR so I can be less restricted sooner rather than later as MC covers single and multi trailer 🙂

[raw hull]

I found some really cheap amd graphics cards on the used Australian market

Too bad I don't live there, otherwise I would've gotten a lot of them

[grave spire]

I just wanna know if any of y'all would recommend the PXN V9

please leave the Ping on in the reply, or if you just send a Message you can add the Ping too

[unkempt ridge]

Just use a Logitech wheel

[grave spire]

The PXN V9 was the Cheapest i found with a gear shifting part

Well, i ask because i personally say "it does the job", but i'd recommend a Higher quality one if possible

[unkempt ridge]

Good quality may raise the price...

[grave spire]

Yeah, that is why i said "if possible"

i was just being careful that it isn't too high that we can't pay the heating oil

Yeah, heating oil is a thing and hella expensive

[severe sage]

You're much better going off with a similarly priced thrustmaster t150/pro and getting a shifter at a later point. It's much higher quality and has force feedback which is pretty much essential in any wheel.

[sullen socket]

When I try go on tmp on ets I get a error saying can not create game Process anyone know who to fix please

[hidden shell]

Install the new launcher

[sullen socket]

where from

[hidden shell]

https://truckersmp.com/download

[lethal pond]

Any1 know the minimum pc specs for tmp?? Especially around the C-D road

[unkempt ridge]

https://truckersmp.com/download - at the bottom of the page you can find TMP's minimum and recommended requirements. C-D road might be a bit higher due to a higher player count

[lethal pond]

Ty

[agile ermine]

no computer can smoothly run the game around Calais or Duisburg, just so you know

[lethal pond]

Id imagine a high end pc can, no?

[agile ermine]

uh

hardly

[grave spire]

Well, i know it might be controversial, But force feedback is a thing i may am interested in the future rn, when i have a Job actually and know that i could get one.

[severe sage]

If that's your view then sure, go with whatever you think suits your needs best

I will just say that the second hand market for wheels does have some pretty great deals on wheels such as the logitech g29/920, often with the shifter included and FFB. Obviously it does come at the cost of a lack of warranty and minor wear and tear but they are still excellent choices if you're on a budget.

[grave spire]

right... Second hand was not even flying by my head 💀

For real i did not think about that

[thorn heart]

u can find some pretty cracked deals second hand

I found a Th8a shifter for 80 cad on there

[grave spire]

Yeah, if i knew before i got that PXN V9

[thorn heart]

didn't get it cuz it was across the country but it seemed to be fine

[grave spire]

The Wheel has vibration, but no Force Feedback

[severe sage]

Also if someone looked after their wheel and didn't use it harshly/use high FFB they should last a pretty long time.

[thorn heart]

since u already have the v9

just keep it and later on upgrade to a t300

or i'd say something like a moza r5

[grave spire]

Yeah, that sounds reasonable

Well, the main usage was like Car/other Driving Games

i forgotten how it is to use a Force Feedback wheel. (used one in the Past that was not mine)

[thorn heart]

basically imagine driving a car but less realistic

and easier

[simple citrus]

the game has its limits, don't matter if you have a rtx4090

[grave spire]

Yeah, it has some different feel, it actually pushes back

Euro Truck Simulator 2 doesn't need beefy hardware

if no Graphics Mods are on there

i never modded it thio

[thorn heart]

i have almost 0 ffb for ets2

easier to drive while eating something

[lethal pond]

Yeah that’s fair enough, Ty 4 the help

[lethal pond]

Would be fun to see how realistic you could make tmp with a rtx4090

[thorn heart]

Tmp isn’t that optimized

Also pretty sure the game engine ets2 is built on is old now so can’t add much to it unless u put in a lot of effort

It can work tho

[lethal pond]

Opinions?

[thorn heart]

what case

[kind viper]

what you planning to do with the cpu

@lethal pond

what the pc for

[lethal pond]

Gaming

I tried to make it so I can run complex games like COD etc

But on a budget

[kind viper]

wouldn't say cod is complex.

If you want complex, go play starfield.

[lethal pond]

I would be playing competitively so I need it to run smoothly, is what I mean.

[kind viper]

120 fps?

[lethal pond]

Y

E

[hoary raft]

Looks like the Linux tech tips teemu case

[kind viper]

get the 13600

13700, 13900 are just for productivity

[lethal pond]

That’s what I thought, but it looks like a good quality case, worse case scenario is just rehouse it into something better

[kind viper]

They all have roughly the same gaming performance with it being small percentage changes.

[lethal pond]

Do you think 1.8K is a fair price for a setup like that?

[kind viper]

It's not a meaningful increase at all in gaming performance.

[kind viper]

if you doing it for gaming, hell it is overkill.

the cooler may be lacking, no idea.

don't know if a 240mm can cool a 13700

probs

[thorn heart]

I was thinking the same

might be able to

[hoary raft]

Even if the plastic sucks it still has USB 3.0. Just have tape handy

[thorn heart]

but i'm not sure

[kind viper]

it isn't the k version...

so it can't be overclocked.

[lethal pond]

That’s exactly the same thought I had, but if its out in the open it might be ok

[thorn heart]

ik this gonna be cursed

but

[kind viper]

what's your motherboard.

[lethal pond]

It’s by the window aswell

[kind viper]

Give the whole spec list'

Instead of part of it

[thorn heart]

i'd suggest a ryzen 5 7600x for ur case

if ur gaming

[kind viper]

13600 would do.

[lethal pond]

2 secs

[kind viper]

7600 is hotter...

the thick IHS doesn't help the cooling.

[thorn heart]

isn't the 13600k hotter?

i thought the newer ryzen processors were cooler

[kind viper]

it's the 13600f he is getting

[kind viper]

no

[thorn heart]

O

[kind viper]

Their IHS is a few mm thicker.

it acts like a heat absorbtion block.

their new standard temp while operating is 95 C

[thorn heart]

damn

[kind viper]

ya....

the are hot mf

[hoary raft]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

[thorn heart]

ig

[kind viper]

Direct die is becoming more popular now.

[thorn heart]

Idk how market is where burnt lives

[kind viper]

to not thermal throttle.

[thorn heart]

but i'd say switch the card too

[kind viper]

direct die is mainly used on the higher end cpus...

[thorn heart]

probs can get a 7900xt for that

[kind viper]

I want to know the motherboard first.

[hoary raft]

Just use liquid metal paste

E Z

[kind viper]

for all I know, he could get a z790

[kind viper]

direct die + liquid metal

gotta void that warrenty for performance.

[hoary raft]

That hurts

[kind viper]

the cpu is soldered anyways.

just being it closer.

[hoary raft]

Don't

[kind viper]

yes

there are already soldered by default.

[hoary raft]

I betcha it's gonna hurt the CPU in the long run with the direct die

Cause metal expanding needs something to flex

[kind viper]

Do I want to leave performance on the table when i paid 200 dollars for it.

no

more like 316

or more..

[hoary raft]

If you make it solid the flex is gonna travel

The performance might be better

[kind viper]

how would it flex?

[hoary raft]

But in the long run it's gonna ruin the cpu

[hoary raft]

That's what you don't know if you remove the slight flex of paste

[thorn heart]

I don't think it's a good idea to run soldered cpu

[lethal pond]

@kind viper

[hoary raft]

That's why old paste is cracked

[thorn heart]

not worth the preformace gains if u wanna later on change it

[kind viper]

but liquid metal

on the actual dies

is dies or dyes

die?

[hoary raft]

Liquid metal is also known to hurt longevity

[lethal pond]

I couldn’t find the recipt for everything else but that’s the main stuff

[kind viper]

you didn't help me.

[thorn heart]

do u live in europe or na?

[kind viper]

Where he motherboard?

[lethal pond]

Uk

[thorn heart]

ok

[lethal pond]

Oh that’s what u wanted mb

[thorn heart]

lemme finish my quiz rq

[kind viper]

hmmm

[thorn heart]

and I might be able to see if there is a better deal

[kind viper]

long term as in 10 years svampen?

[thorn heart]

yea

[hoary raft]

It might not matter if you upgrade within a couple of years

[thorn heart]

realistically

wait

r we talking about a laptop cpu?

[hoary raft]

But it's technically bad for longevity

[thorn heart]

or a desktop cpu

[kind viper]

My last system upgrade was from

[thorn heart]

for soldering

[kind viper]

2011 --> 2020

[kind viper]

desktop

[lethal pond]

B760m Motherboard

[kind viper]

9 years

[hoary raft]

But the more temperature changes and stress it gets the faster it wears

[thorn heart]

yea i'd say run socketed

[kind viper]

you got what looks like a micro atx in an atx case.

[thorn heart]

what if u slip on ur yacht and fall on ur pc dropping it into the ocean

u can repalce the cpu if it's socketed while soldered is just dead

[hoary raft]

Then ask your parents to express ship a new macbook

[thorn heart]

performance won't matter then

[lethal pond]

Mhm

[kind viper]

shave down the ihs then?

instead of removing it with force.

Thermal transfer limitations is what I'm getting at here.

[hoary raft]

When metal is heated it expands. When you cool it down it retracts. What happens when you join two metals and heat cycle them?

Is physics

[kind viper]

weakens integrety over time'

varying by metal.

[hoary raft]

But the slight flex in paste saves the components from the stress

[thorn heart]

wouldn't the amount be so small that it's just negligible

[hoary raft]

Hence why it's all cracked when it gets old

[kind viper]

save money on the case.

[hoary raft]

The stress of those cracks are gonna be transferred somewhere else

[kind viper]

is another option.

[thorn heart]

just run no case

[kind viper]

test bench

[kind viper]

Then how is this different from leaving it alone?

[thorn heart]

walk to ur closest uni and go into their lab

they got a bunch of metal sheets laying around

[kind viper]

It has liquid metal presumely already.

When the ihs is soldered to the cpu.

[thorn heart]

u can probably fabricate an open air case

[hoary raft]

I'm talking paste. Not liquid metal

[lethal pond]

Yeah but if it’s out in the open I want the whole pc to look good

[kind viper]

i been talking about liquid metal.

[hoary raft]

Liquid metal has the same flaw as direct die

But less

[thorn heart]

get a used case

[hoary raft]

Cause it's not an even fuse

[thorn heart]

save some money there

[kind viper]

so the flex is less then direct die (ihs soldered to cpu)

[lethal pond]

Yeah I guess, but I’ve already spent nearly 2k on it so I might aswell go all in right ?

[hoary raft]

The stress is always gonna be there. The flex is a calculated stress reliever if you will

[thorn heart]

no not really

[kind viper]

having an micro atx board in an atx case is gonna look funny

tbf

[thorn heart]

in the end

if u find a good used case

it's basically gonna be brand new after cleaning

[lethal pond]

The pc case is a masterbox td500

[hoary raft]

Thermaltake had some cool cases back in the day

[thorn heart]

I think the case i'm running rn is the h18 tg

[kind viper]

So here the final questiion I guess... how much of a different, even if it's negligibleis, the flex comparing direct die and the default ihs soldering to the cpu (not looking for a number)

[thorn heart]

got it for 40 cad

good enough for a case

[kind viper]

it's still gonna look funny

[hoary raft]

I have a white cougar case

It gets the job done

[lethal pond]

Ill see what it’s like when it’s done and send a pic in here

Any1 got any wheel suggestions

With a clutch peddles etc

[thorn heart]

r5

or actually

if the csl dd is available

[kind viper]

fractal torent compact would be a better choice

[thorn heart]

cuz that's a better deal

[kind viper]

if you don't want your motherboard to look... really small

[thorn heart]

or

switch to an atx mobo

I think 280 mil rad with an atx mobo suits it better

the gpu is probably gonna be chunky

[raw hull]

naaa

itx mobo with a 4090 is the only way to go

[simple citrus]

gpu bigger than the mobo

[kind viper]

Realistically, we could make 32x pcie slots for double gpu slots

Bring back dual gpu gpus

[agile ermine]

cpus don't have enough pci-e lanes for that, it could work depending on the chipset but it would be suboptimal

also, back in the days, dual-gpu gpus would only use 16 lanes

actually, if a dual-4090 was possible, and if it was pci-e 5.0 compatible, you probably wouldn't need more than 16 lanes

[kind viper]

Not the standard consumers ones

[frigid laurel]

I hate the Asus Tuf Laptop series 🥲

They keep crashing

Win 11 is crushing on my tuf a15

[spiral yew]

lower your graphic settings and get a good laptop cooler

[frigid laurel]

I'm running on RTX 4060 and Ryzen 9 7940HS with 16 GB RAM 🥲

[spiral yew]

laptops are nortious for overheating

if it's cold outside you could take it outside and game on it and not have to worry about it over heating

[agile ermine]

could very well be a software issue and not related to the laptop itself

gaming laptops aren't really overheating anymore in normal use scenarios, and especially not to a point where it has to shut down

[spiral yew]

crashing and shutting down are different

[frigid laurel]

I checked the temperatures in the Armoury Crate app, the laptop handles pretty well overheating, with an average of 70°C when in full load. It's just the fan thing, they're so annoying and loud, even if I switch them to Silent mode. As for the crash, apparently it's a known problem for Asus and Windows 11. It's some bug related to that TPM chip

[agile ermine]

yeah, laptops are and will always be loud

if there's a problem with the TPM chip, that means it's time to switch back to Win10

[kind viper]

saftey temperatures on a laptop and desktop are different.

Expect higher temps on a laptop then a desktop.

[severe sage]

Not by much, laptops just run closer to the max operating temperature and are more likely to throttle heavily.

[kind viper]

In a desktop you normally have a case that can blow a lot of air and remove heat a much larger volume, here we have everything shove into a tiny shell and gotta force something to move air and cool it.

[kind viper]

depends on cooling.

Mine is a 5900hs and 3080 mobile, runs more like 90-92 on cpu while gpu can vary between 60-80 depending on the game even after a few hours of load..

All in C

gta will push the gpu example, but games like tmp, ets2, no.

[severe sage]

Indeed. Most laptops are restricted power delivery wise anyway, or at least non game oriented ones are.

[kind viper]

i believe my 3080 is the 100 watt version

while the 3080 mobile can go up to 180 watts

restricted by the manfuacter

[cyan aspen]

Need a recruiter for our startup. Must be a U.S. citizen. Juniors are also welcome. You can DM me.

[boreal saddle]

what is that

[lethal pond]

Hey

Hey guys

Wanna hear a joke

[boreal saddle]

yes

@lethal pond yes

[lethal pond]

How does a computer get drunk

[boreal saddle]

I don't know how?

[lethal pond]

Screenshots

[boreal saddle]

hahahhwhh

[lethal pond]

I’m so funny

[boreal saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-haha-gif-24563567

I love you as a human

[lethal pond]

I love me too

[wild tide]

Exactly I use a ASUS zephyrus g14 with ryzen 9 and rtx3060 it gets hot as hell when playing games and stuff the cpu reaches 95-96 even while using a cooling pad

[kind viper]

at least it isn't intel and they aren't thermal throttling

The temps are realtively stable at 90 ish C

doesn't really increase

[wild tide]

Tbh I am really fed up with my laptop since I bought it I had multiple issues. There are 2 which annoy me the most, overheating and horrible battery life

[kind viper]

you expect horrible battery life if you even have a dgpu..

you don't wish.

Unless you're framework and you can physically remove the dgpu

[wild tide]

Ik

[kind viper]

heat is what I expected.

I got that

It's a room heater now.