Dragoon Modifier | Legend of Dragoon | Page 11

modest dawn Jan 1, 2026, 7:48 PM

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he just opened the fight with it LULW

iron bone Jan 1, 2026, 7:49 PM

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You can press +/- to speed up the game and then you can also turn on auto advanced text.

modest dawn Jan 1, 2026, 7:50 PM

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like in the keyboard?

iron bone Jan 1, 2026, 7:50 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 1, 2026, 7:51 PM

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doesn't work in battle, let me try in a second

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it does nothing chrisHmm

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nvm it does work, but I need to use the ones in the numpad

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and the first time I press it doesn't work, because it first needs to change to keyboard

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all good then, thanks!

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is it normal that some gameplay configurations get removed whenever I load the save file? Namely seems to be inventory size, equip effects in dragoon, dragoon escape/guard/item menu

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seems to happen after every battle, so I guess it's hell mod related, that it forces it

iron bone Jan 1, 2026, 8:38 PM

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Yes hell mode will lock some features

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in the next update it will be more clear as base SC now has option locking

modest dawn Jan 1, 2026, 8:39 PM

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ah alright, I was very confused at first LULW

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 11:45 AM

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how do I use the burn stacks with Dart?

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I think that I currently have one (Dart used Flameshot at the start of the fight)

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the readme says to press triangle+square but nothing happens?

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supposedly the multiplier of flameshot should change to x1.10, I think?

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pressing up or down only shows addition swap too

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and another semirelated question, do enemies lose the wind mark after a while? I also did a magic with Lavitz, I saw the green 1, but when I started paying attention later, when selecting the enemy, there was no 33% green bar under Lavitz's portrait

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 1:56 PM

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another one, I just got Rose, I attacked with her, I saw there were some blue numbers on her (supposedly healing herself while attacking), but her HP was the same after it was done

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(also enemy AI seems a bit... unfair? This Sandora soldier used 5 ice magics on Dart in a row, who gets one shot every time right after I ress him lol)

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:02 PM

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modest dawn another one, I just got Rose, I attacked with her, I saw there were some blue nu...

yeah, she's not healing even though I'm seeing the blue numbers, I just tried again

dim sapphire Jan 2, 2026, 2:22 PM

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oh, there was a speed up button? hope we will be able to put that one on the gamepad in full version, i decided to let this one bake a little bit more

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:24 PM

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modest dawn pressing up or down only shows addition swap too

use left or right to change to a character's special ability

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:24 PM

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oh

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that's what face north + face left means

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it says after triangle + square so I was just confused

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:25 PM

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modest dawn and another semirelated question, do enemies lose the wind mark after a while? I...

after the enemy is attacked they will lose turn meter and wind marks

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:26 PM

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ohh, when they are attacked they lose the wind mark

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:27 PM

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modest dawn another one, I just got Rose, I attacked with her, I saw there were some blue nu...

i haven't added any colour damage numbers yet so i used some that the game has available but are unused. rose will store part of the damage until the number equals her max hp. when the bar is filled you use that to add damage to rose's next attack.

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:28 PM

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oh, I think I understand now...

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dang all these new mechanics are a bit confusing LULW

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:30 PM

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#1197976055923888218 message

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this explains it better

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:31 PM

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I've been using the readme

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I'll check that out

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:32 PM

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readme is outdated

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i will update it in the next version

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:33 PM

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ohhh

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well

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good to know LULW

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when the readme says "Character's additions has been changed", it's only the damage% and sp, right?

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 2:41 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 2:41 PM

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perfect, thanks for answering all my questions

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I got this achievement without actually handing the stardust

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I just got my 10th stardust in the seventh fort, went out the door and got the achievement

sweet wyvern Jan 2, 2026, 3:07 PM

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dim sapphire oh, there was a speed up button? hope we will be able to put that one on the gam...

All keybinds in SC are remappable

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 5:02 PM

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sometimes when I open the addition menu in battle, Lavitz will have the typhoon addition before he actually has the level to use it

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if I try to hover over it (not even selecting it yet), the game crashes

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same crash in a notepad

📎 typhoon_crash.txt

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this is the second time it happens

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the first time I was like "did I have typhoon?", hovered over it and crashed, didn't save the crash

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the second time I see it I was prepared and went for the crash on purpose to report it

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 5:39 PM

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also sometimes Rose doesn't have More & More, even though she has it unlocked and I've been using it

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iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 5:54 PM

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uh hmm interesting. i am sure that is fixed with the latest SC.

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 5:56 PM

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ah, I'm using the beta for the hell mod

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 6:01 PM

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i need to update before monoxide makes me rewrite another third of dramod

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😂

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why can't i have two keyboards and four hands

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 6:02 PM

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same

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 6:24 PM

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can I also burn stacks with Dart while out of Dragoon?

iron bone Jan 2, 2026, 6:46 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 6:47 PM

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cool!

modest dawn Jan 2, 2026, 8:34 PM

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how to do the dabas minigame? chrisHmm

hidden wraith Jan 2, 2026, 8:34 PM

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iron bone why can't i have two keyboards and four hands

You do, use your feet! lmao

serene inlet Jan 2, 2026, 9:40 PM

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seems grand jewel increases dragoon power. im gettin 700 dmg using a wind arrow out of dragoon and 7000 in dragoon during dragoon atk and df significantly down

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 11:53 AM

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oh the hero competition was a bit unexpected LULW

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 12:39 PM

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could I get Haschel's mechanic explained? It's not in the pin, and in the readme it's quite confusing

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 12:50 PM

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attack with haschel or thunder based attacks on enemy, bar full? use spark net instead for big damage. enemy has thunder element? bigger damage.

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 12:52 PM

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the readme says that dragoon spark net uses 10mp

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but it does not in game

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is that also outdated in the readme?

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the readme also says it has an enhanced multiplier of 150x150xmulti

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but I think in the tooltip in game I saw differently

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besides this, I find it interesting that haschel works like this, like he can build the stacks by himself, would be interesting if Dart's additions would also give him burn stacks for example

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or Rose's addition would give her siphon (maybe just a bit less, like 5% instead of 20%)

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:01 PM

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what does it say it uses in game?

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:05 PM

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just 150xmulti

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oh, it does say 10mp in battle even if out of battle says 0mp, my mistake

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but the multiplier is different

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:13 PM

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i guess i had a stroke

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:15 PM

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lmao

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:16 PM

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it's 150% * multiplier
and when the bar is full
it's 150 * multiplier * (7.07 + (dragoonLevel - 1) * 1.01)
and when you attack a thunder based enemy while bar is full it's
it's 150 * multiplier * (7.07 + (dragoonLevel - 1) * 1.01) * 3.5

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:16 PM

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those are a lot of numbers

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is it like that in game even if the tooltip in game doesn't say that?

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:16 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:16 PM

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okay cool

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:17 PM

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i will change it next patch to say 150% * multi x XXX%

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:17 PM

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so, just to clarify

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:17 PM

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when the bar is full

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:17 PM

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when an enemy has 10 thunder charges

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you need to swap to the "skill" by doing up + right to select it

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and then dragoon magic spark net?

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is that the only way to proc Haschel's special skill?

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:18 PM

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no haschel's thing automatically will use it

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:18 PM

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oh

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:19 PM

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you only use haschel's special menu if say you have 3 thunder charges on a dead enemy and want to transfer it over, or you just want to transfer them all to a single enemy.

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so if you have 3 / 4 / 3 thunder charges on enemies but the ones with 3 are dead you use haschel's menu to "gather them", you attack the one with 4 changes you'll have 10 charges next turn.

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:20 PM

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you can gather them even if the enemies are dead?

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:26 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:28 PM

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and to proc them once you have ten, it's only with dragoon spark net, and it's done automatically, right?

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:28 PM

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yes

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:29 PM

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perfect, thanks!

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btw, I think you know, but there are bad/weird healing numbers

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I think it was reported already?

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but yeah, I just used a healing potion, and Shana healed around 25% of her health instead of 50%

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which... kinda sucks because I'm getting my ass beat by this boss lmao

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also yeah idk how to use Haschel

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enemy stopped getting charges even though Haschel's bar was not full

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I went into dragoon

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I did spark net after "retrieving" the charges, which I guess I shouldn't have done

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and haschel inflicted 8 charges after that

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so it wouldn't have matter because the boss didn't have 10 charges anyway

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yeah okay, jiango boss is not getting charges over 8 -.-

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:51 PM

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it's a random chance to get a charge

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:51 PM

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oh my god

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xD

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alright

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that would do it

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 1:54 PM

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i am doing some updates now but a lot of things are broken still

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 1:54 PM

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that's fine

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I think the most important thing is to get the read me up to date

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if I don't know what things do or how they work correctly, I won't know what to report that is not working as intended

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there are other things too... maybe idk how enemy turns work, but it's kinda weird that after applying a wind mark with Lavitz, and proccing it with another character, the enemy might still get ahead in the turn order for no reason, when supposedly it should be losing turn points

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I think Shana's healing is just bugged, whenever she throws a potion, she just heals half of its intended amount chrisHmm

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only happens with her

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 2:12 PM

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📎 dramod-readme.txt

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ignore entire ultimate boss section

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the entirety of ultimate boss is getting redone next update.

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 2:15 PM

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is the whole shana elemental field working?

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I do see her wind bar going up (I keep using wind arrows)

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but I didn't notice anything different

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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ope

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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well

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sad

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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ignore shana's entire section

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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xD

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alright

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everything else seems the same as the readme I already had

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only shana's part was different

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 2:17 PM

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that's not in the v1.3 update

hidden wraith Jan 3, 2026, 2:58 PM

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iron bone i am doing some updates now but a lot of things are broken still

secretly checking in on shanas light attack or the full rework teased a while back....

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 3:36 PM

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dang, jiango was so hard, but then frueguel was a piece of cake

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those counter attacks on jiango were deadly

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now that Lavitz is gone and I have Albert, I'm trying to get Lavitz back through the menu, but it says Lavitz removed, and just in case I check and he's not a party member

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in an earlier point, I think it was Lohan or somewhere else when Dart is alone, I was able to bring Lavitz with this option, so I'm unsure why it's not working

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swapping Shana in or out does work though

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 5:51 PM

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The Sandora commander hit me for 90% of my hp with a single attack, is that intentional?

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 5:58 PM

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is that the first boss?

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 5:58 PM

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yeah

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 5:58 PM

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sometimes he can hit you for more than your max hp LULW

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 5:59 PM

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xd

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:01 PM

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you need to get a bit lucky with that boss lol, took me like four tries

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:03 PM

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yeah np, how do I know if I succeed the QTE's btw?

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:03 PM

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when you press X or whatever your confirmation button when you do an attack is

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is Dart doing a second attack and shouting "Double slash"?

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then you are succeeding the QTE

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:04 PM

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i set it to volcano it seems to be better

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:04 PM

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same thing

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then you need to succeed three QTE's

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then he shouts "Volcano"

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:05 PM

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battles seem to be 30 fps though, really unfortunate

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:05 PM

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if this is your first time playing Legend of Dragoon ever, don't do it through the hell dragon modifier though...

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just play a normal playthrough

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:05 PM

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I am a gamer

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I got this

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:06 PM

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no you don't LULW

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I've beaten the game several times, and this mod is kicking my ass

sweet wyvern Jan 3, 2026, 6:07 PM

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Battle is still 20 fps, it's going to take months to update it so it's going to be its own dev cycle in the future

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:10 PM

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can I chug health pots though? I killed the guy but I have 0 atm

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or do I need to load?

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:11 PM

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it's fine

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:11 PM

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ok

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I see that encounters are different too with this mod, I checked a few videos and the commander's skill set is different

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and XP values are higher too, this fight brought me to level 4 but in videos they get level 2 from this

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 6:17 PM

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bosses give 50% more exp

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a lot of things are changed from the base game with this mod

gusty pagoda Jan 3, 2026, 6:25 PM

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This game seems pretty cool though, the QTE system is pretty fun

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 7:13 PM

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I got this achievement just for entering the black castle, probably not intended

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 9:00 PM

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so, I just beat Doel, and went back to see what the researcher is about, this is some juicy gear

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what's the supposed gameplay loop to farm all the money needed though? lol

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(also somehow the black castle still has all the sandora enemies? was that always a thing if you come back? lol)

full bolt Jan 3, 2026, 10:09 PM

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You couldn't come back in that's why they are still here

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And you're not supposed to farm money to buy them

modest lance Jan 3, 2026, 11:16 PM

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not sure if it's intended or not but sometimes rose shows heal numbers when using dragoon attacks but doesn't actually gain the hp. Is there something about the mechanic that i'm not understanding or is it a bug?

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 11:53 PM

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the damage goes to her siphon overflow and it's based on her max hp

iron bone Jan 3, 2026, 11:54 PM

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modest dawn so, I just beat Doel, and went back to see what the researcher is about, this is...

ultimate boss will give enough gold, the new versions of ultimate boss will be level 60-70 only and give huge stacks of gold

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the full thing was not ready for the beta

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 11:56 PM

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full bolt You couldn't come back in that's why they are still here

Oh that makes sense lol

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 11:57 PM

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modest lance not sure if it's intended or not but sometimes rose shows heal numbers when usin...

Those blue numbers actually fill up her blue bar on her portrait, once it's full you can use her special ability and she will do a crapload of damage

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 11:58 PM

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iron bone the full thing was not ready for the beta

Ah well, it's in the message you linked to me so I went to check it out lol

modest dawn Jan 3, 2026, 11:59 PM

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modest dawn now that Lavitz is gone and I have Albert, I'm trying to get Lavitz back through...

Could I get this question answered please? It's about the swap Lavitz dramod menu option

iron bone Jan 4, 2026, 12:28 AM

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That has been bugged for some time. I will fix it in the next version

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 12:47 AM

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Oh ;-;

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Well at least I know now so I will stop trying the option every map xD

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 5:04 PM

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are enemies attributes changed?

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I'm fighting currently Gherich, who is earth supposedly, but throwing Pellets with Shana, which are earth based, do more damage than the previous burn out I threw chrisHmm

sweet wyvern Jan 4, 2026, 5:06 PM

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Did you use the burnout with a different character?

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 5:07 PM

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nope, I'm only throwing magic with Shana

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I might have thrown it into Mappi, but I don't think so

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maybe I'm just a bit confused because Shana's arrows also look like magic

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maybe I'm just surprised that Shana is doing 800 with a pellet, which is earth, against an earth enemy

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while Albert with a wind weapons is doing 250 damage

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ah no, this guy just has very weak mdef and high def I guess

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okay a shana wind arrow did 800 damage, and a shana earth arrow did 80 damage

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so I guess it's working fine?

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but the pellets were doing 700 damage, I'm so confused, I wish I had a spinning gale to test but I don't

sweet wyvern Jan 4, 2026, 5:15 PM

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You can see the element of an enemy by looking at the background of the nameplate when targeting them

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 5:16 PM

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yeah

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Gherich is earth

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so are the pellets

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that's why I was so confused at the damage Shana was doing with them

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but sadly I didn't have many other elements to test after I noticed the damage numbers

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 5:46 PM

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these are a lot of items from a single boss fight dang

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readme says that kongol gets half speed from equips, but as far as I see in the stats, he gets the same as everybody else

iron bone Jan 4, 2026, 7:05 PM

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half speed is only in battle, hard to change the UI for two characters alone

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 7:05 PM

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oh

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what's the other character changed and what thing is changed for them?

iron bone Jan 4, 2026, 7:06 PM

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Lavitz/Albert

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 7:06 PM

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they also get only half speed for equips? or is it something else?

iron bone Jan 4, 2026, 7:07 PM

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yes half speed on equips

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 7:08 PM

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alright, that one was not on the readme, so I didn't know

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thanks

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 10:33 PM

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Are there any monster drops with important upgrades btw?

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 10:57 PM

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Drops are quite rare in this game

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Some enemies have weapons drop

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That later will be able to be bought anyway

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Or things like that

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I wouldn't fuss too much about it, or check a guide

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The highest rated in gamefaqs has monster drops

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:02 PM

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ok ty

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:03 PM

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Where are you in the game btw?

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:03 PM

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I am at Urobulus atm

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:04 PM

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Not bad

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:04 PM

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the basilisk in the cave

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but I think my save is GG, I have no health pots and I can't buy any

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:05 PM

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Oh yeah, I knew that was happening, so I made sure I had a lot of pots and I just turtled with defense to heal until the rock fireflies

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I think there is an enemy in the cave that drops pots

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You could try farming it next to the fireflies

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:06 PM

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ok cool

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my strat is guarding with everyone except for Dart

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because Dart is the only one's whose damage doesn't suck ass

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:06 PM

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Shana can use heal twice too, more if you have some rhapsodies, so that can also help in a pinch

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:07 PM

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Lavitz is straight up dogshit
Shana's only saving grace is more turns and her heal skill

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:07 PM

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Shana is amazing if you have some magic items

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I actually bring her on all bosses, she's my main DPS lmao

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And once you start getting arrows (her main gimmick from this mod), she gets even better

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:08 PM

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she has no additioons though 🙁

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:08 PM

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But since all the items are sorta "limited", I only use her on bosses

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Yeah will

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As I said

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You spam magic items

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Or her special arrows from the mod

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So her not having additions doesn't matter

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In the vanilla games she kinda sucks, but in this mod she's really good

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:09 PM

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ok ty

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Urobolus is pretty easy, I just need to grind a few pots and get dart to level 7

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:10 PM

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She gets 50 sp when you use magic with her too

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(also from this mod), so she even gets to dragoon fairly fast and easy

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:11 PM

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you get no SP from guarding right?

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:11 PM

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Nope

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You get 8% of your max hp

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I think in vanilla is 10%

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Here is less lol

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:13 PM

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Btw, do you know if it's possible to speed up the game while holding a button?

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instead of speeding it up and down with button presses 24/7

modest dawn Jan 4, 2026, 11:13 PM

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There is no way

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But you can remap it to a more comfortable hotkey

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I play with controller

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So I put it on R2 and L2

gusty pagoda Jan 4, 2026, 11:47 PM

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Sometimes i see extra digits, is that a crit or something?

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Wiped at 20%, three health pots are not enough -_-

iron bone Jan 5, 2026, 4:43 AM

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gusty pagoda Sometimes i see extra digits, is that a crit or something?

turn on dramod's HP bars you'll understand the orange numbers. bosses have a shield that will appear inside the ( )

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 7:20 AM

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Yeah the extra numbers in a more orange you are seeing is damage to the shield

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 7:21 AM

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gusty pagoda Wiped at 20%, three health pots are not enough -_-

Try to save your heavy hitters for the ~end of the fight. Enemies get higher stats when they have less than 80% HP, and then again when they have less than 40% of HP, so that's when you want to start throwing most of your shit to end the fight as fast as possible

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The bats drop potions, and the orcs drop dark mist (great for Shana). The spider drops an angel's prayer, which is basically a healing pot that works only after somebody dies

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Also, just in case, don't use healing potions with Shana, she seems to be bugged afaik, her healing with items heal less than intended

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@gusty pagoda

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 10:57 AM

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I did know about the stat increases, I didn't know about a shield, thanks!

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I think that's because I was using severed chain health bars and not Dramod's hp bars

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but yeah, I actually enjoy this game and mod in particular

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:01 AM

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doing the hell mode in your first playthrough is just so crazy LULW

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:02 AM

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I completed expedition 33 more than 10 times

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I found this game in an interview with the lead producer I think

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:03 AM

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yeah but in expedition 33 you can parry/dodge attacks

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in this hell mode you will eat attacks that do 7/8ths of your HP yes or yes LULW

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:05 AM

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well health pots heal for 50% of ur HP and cost nothing

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I've noticed the AI only does some of these attacks after certain conditions are met

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like the wardens in the prison only throw bombs when their HP is at or below 50%

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it's just knowledge u need

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and then u make a strategy

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 11:06 AM

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modest dawn in this hell mode you will eat attacks that do 7/8ths of your HP yes or yes <:LU...

disc1 final boss dealt 2400 damage to character that had like 800hp

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:07 AM

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tired orbit disc1 final boss dealt 2400 damage to character that had like 800hp

lmao that had to be in an earlier patch or something, I had not much troubles with that boss lol

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not more than any other at least

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:08 AM

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I do wonder how the targetting AI works, I am confident my guys aren't targeted 33/33/33, but I don't hjave numbers and I could be talking out of my ass

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:08 AM

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gusty pagoda like the wardens in the prison only throw bombs when their HP is at or below 50%

this goes for pretty much any normal mob, once they get to under 50% you want to kill them asap lol

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:08 AM

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gusty pagoda I do wonder how the targetting AI works, I am confident my guys aren't targeted ...

pretty sure they know your stats/weaknesses

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 11:08 AM

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enemies have higher chance of targetting the character with weak element when using magic. thats in the base game

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:09 AM

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I had a frozen magic attack target Dart five times in a row, killing him every time xD

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:11 AM

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tired orbit enemies have higher chance of targetting the character with weak element when us...

not only for magic though

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my Shana gets targetted like 75% of the time

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could be confirmation bias

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since she has lower defense and lower HP

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so I notice it more when she gets hit

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but I throw the shield on her every battle, and I swear all enemies just target her all the time lmao

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and all the magic of course gets thrown on Lavitz lol

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:13 AM

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I did the same

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she was definitely targeted less when I put the shield on her

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but i have a small sample 🙂

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:15 AM

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you mean guarding?

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the shield I mean is an item at the end of disc 1

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so I don't think you have that yet

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I'm not sure if characters get targetted less when you guard, I don't think I've noticed anything like that

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:16 AM

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oh, i was thinking about Knight's Shield

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an acecssory

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:17 AM

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ah no no

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there is an item later

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that you can use once per battle

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that negates all physical damage in a character for three turns

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 11:50 AM

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modest dawn not only for magic though

thats just rng

untold zealot Jan 5, 2026, 11:52 AM

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thought it was for regular attacks too

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but what is magic vs regular attack isnt always clear with mobs anyways

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 12:11 PM

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tired orbit thats just rng

confirmation bias then

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but it does feel like my Shana/Meru get focused a lot on physical

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and my Lavitz/Albert a lot on magical attacks lol

untold zealot Jan 5, 2026, 12:16 PM

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it would only be elemental on the char or magic
nothing afaik for weightings on any other stat or feature aside from the special items and statuses

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 12:34 PM

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modest dawn but it does feel like my Shana/Meru get focused a lot on physical

you only notice those because otherwise they deal no damage 🙂

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 12:48 PM

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not with this mod

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everything deals a fuckton of damage LULW

iron bone Jan 5, 2026, 2:28 PM

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tired orbit disc1 final boss dealt 2400 damage to character that had like 800hp

this is still not enough damage

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 2:29 PM

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24000 dmg is still 0 if it misses

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evasion build i93PowerUp

iron bone Jan 5, 2026, 2:37 PM

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evasion buil;d i93PowerUp
until the bosses gain accuracy over time i92PowerDown

tired orbit Jan 5, 2026, 3:24 PM

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hell mode vs almighty power of 🐟

iron bone Jan 5, 2026, 3:35 PM

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hell mode detects fishing mod remove 50% bonus boss exp

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 6:51 PM

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I just encountered a yellow bird and it dropped a cloak with 20% melee evasion 0_o

iron bone Jan 5, 2026, 6:57 PM

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yep they do that

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 8:23 PM

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yeah but then you need to give up an accesory slot

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there are so many good equips

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I wish we could have two accessory slots to make more varied loadouts

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at the end is a lot of therapy/physical ring spam, at least for me lol

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or the speed rings

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:06 PM

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I'm kinda confused with additions, aren't later additions supposed to be better than earlier ones? Burning rush is straight up weaker

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but I haven't gotten it to level 5 yet

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:10 PM

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It's weaker but gives more SP

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But yeah, most of the additions stats are changed from vanilla

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Some of the choices might be a bit on the wackier side

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:12 PM

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can you check for me if level 5 burning rush is better? then I can stop leveling it 🙂

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:12 PM

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At lvl 5 burning rush is 150dmg, 50 sp IIRC

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:12 PM

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ok

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:12 PM

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You want to level them all anyway

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It's the way to unlock the final addition

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For each character

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:12 PM

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ok ty

modest dawn Jan 5, 2026, 11:13 PM

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FujiThumbsUp

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Then the next one is 250/50

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And the one after is 100/100

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lol

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:19 PM

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Also, I should be spamming my dragoon attacks 24/7 right? To level the dragoon stuff

sweet wyvern Jan 5, 2026, 11:24 PM

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Gaining SP is what levels your dragoons

gusty pagoda Jan 5, 2026, 11:26 PM

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Do you still get XP when the SP bar is full?

sweet wyvern Jan 5, 2026, 11:30 PM

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Yeah

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So not using dragoons is actually how you level your dragoons lol

sonic nacelle Jan 6, 2026, 12:11 AM

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Imagine if Dragoons had separate XP bars that only incremented for using them 🤔

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 12:11 AM

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We did add dxp to the post battle report so at least you can see it in SC

sonic nacelle Jan 6, 2026, 12:13 AM

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I know, i was saying that in order to level the dragoons, instead of being human and fighting, you had to use purely dragoon actions to level them.

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like a D addition gave 10/50/100 out of 1,000/3,000/6,000/12,000/20,000 etc etc

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 12:17 AM

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Yeah, I think it's pretty silly how they implemented it

sonic nacelle Jan 6, 2026, 12:18 AM

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Would it ever be possible to implement that method of dragoon levelling in the future? especially if say someone makes a mod for permanent dragoon form, you would need a way to level them.

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 12:21 AM

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Well we have full source code so technically anything can be done

modest dawn Jan 6, 2026, 7:55 AM

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sonic nacelle Would it ever be possible to implement that method of dragoon levelling in the f...

if you activate the option to use items in dragoon form, you can at least throw spirit potions, or the option for equipped items to work while in dragon form, you can get SP with different equipments when getting hit or just passively

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so if you just reduced the amount of SP needed to level up, it would work okayish I guess

sonic nacelle Jan 6, 2026, 3:09 PM

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modest dawn if you activate the option to use items in dragoon form, you can at least throw ...

Spirit pots only give 100 SP though, so the turn is moot/wasted if you're endlessly throwing them in dragoon form

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 3:17 PM

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i thought i disabled the dragoon options

gusty pagoda Jan 6, 2026, 3:18 PM

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I am not sure what to make of the button spam mechanics. WIth a controller I can get to 130%, with keyboard I get to 230% lol

sonic nacelle Jan 6, 2026, 3:29 PM

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iron bone i thought i disabled the dragoon options

I think were just talking hypotheticals

modest dawn Jan 6, 2026, 3:49 PM

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sonic nacelle Spirit pots only give 100 SP though, so the turn is moot/wasted if you're endles...

was just a way to currently gain SP while in dragoon form, that's all 😛

modest dawn Jan 6, 2026, 3:49 PM

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gusty pagoda I am not sure what to make of the button spam mechanics. WIth a controller I can...

I just have it with the severed chains option on hold, f that carpal tunnel mechanic lmao

modest dawn Jan 6, 2026, 3:50 PM

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sonic nacelle Spirit pots only give 100 SP though, so the turn is moot/wasted if you're endles...

that's why I also said it would also need to be reduced the amount of SP needed to level up, but yeah

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 3:54 PM

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@iron bone what happens with the options that you lock if players use the in-battle options menu?

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 3:56 PM

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uhhhhhhhhh

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@sweet wyvern can't do anything with them

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 4:04 PM

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Oh you switched over to the built in locking mechanism

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I was talking about the way you were doing it before

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 4:09 PM

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I'm not sure about if it is in the latest dramod beta. But the in development version is using most of the new stuff on main

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I ran into an issue with the new menu options however

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 4:13 PM

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What's up?

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 4:41 PM

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um maybe i am dumb and i didn't see something hold on

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if the option is ON or OFF i need to force disable/enable certain actions

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like dragoon guard is only supposed to be available for level 6 dragoons.

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my jank version of this i had all dragoon options turned off and i had an event every time the menu was triggered to allow mods to change what options on the bar were being displayed.

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 5:02 PM

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force the SC option off and listen for the battle actions event

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 5:04 PM

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oh... that was added after the dragoon options

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i need to update to main again

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conflict hurricane every update.

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 5:05 PM

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Sorry lol, trying to get everything in that you need so we don't have to keep breaking it in the future

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 5:06 PM

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we should sit down sometime soon then

sweet wyvern Jan 6, 2026, 5:10 PM

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Yeah

iron bone Jan 6, 2026, 5:13 PM

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i am wfh all week so any time after 5pm your time is fine

modest dawn Jan 6, 2026, 8:31 PM

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poor meru, the only one with a new weapon that destroys her attack lol

rough tree Jan 6, 2026, 11:39 PM

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modest dawn poor meru, the only one with a new weapon that destroys her attack lol

It is necessary lol, in a nutshell, she'd be OP against fire

modest lance Jan 7, 2026, 1:12 AM

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I've been playing the hell mode beta and having a good time. I've just gotten to Doel and his damage seems kind of ridiculous. What d'level/regular level is expected here? What level do I get rose storm?

tired orbit Jan 7, 2026, 7:33 AM

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rose storm is like dlvl 5 or something

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 7:48 AM

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modest lance I've been playing the hell mode beta and having a good time. I've just gotten t...

Got him on level 16, barely…

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Oh, I dunno if anyone talked about this, but Shana’s MP nerfs doesn’t go along to Miranda

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:11 AM

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rough tree It is necessary lol, in a nutshell, she'd be OP against fire

why is it necessary?the other weapons you see in the picture are also element based for each character, dark for Rose, light for Shana, and out of the picture is fire for Dart, and they all have a normal amount of strength xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:13 AM

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Zychronix found she would be doing way more damage then her regular damage then acceptable. Her attack is so low it wouldn’t have made a difference anyway

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:14 AM

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I don't get it then

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that's the thing

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her attack is already really low

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how would she be op?

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:15 AM

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And her weapons don’t give much boost as well anyway

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:15 AM

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I find Meru sadly the most underwhelming character in the mod, next to Haschel, and they were my favourite party u.u

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but at least Shana rocks, and I've never used her before, so that's fun

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:17 AM

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modest dawn how would she be op?

Fastest Speed in the game, she’s already great with magic attack, and elemental weapons double damage. Usually you should get a 25-50% damage boost for opposite elemental monsters then your ultimate weapon. But considering her biggest one only gives 40, the damage boost from her elemental weapons barely makes it

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She also has her passive which is great with Mage Ring.

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:19 AM

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being op against your opposing element doesn't seem to me like a bad thing though

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being like characters with low hp get usually one tapped anyway when fighting their opposing element lol

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:20 AM

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The difficulty philosophy is what outputs the same amount of damage as everyone else with the best equipment and same levels and their new passives in mind. This is the result of the testing.

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:20 AM

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I brought Dart to both Lenus fights, with the heat blade, let me tell you, they were a bit rng, and the mvp was mostly still Shana (or Dart's dragoon, not normal form, which is busted lol)

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I also brought Meru and she was a heal bot LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:21 AM

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Elemental weapons have a exception somewhat but I’m not sure how far they go, probably 25-50% higher, anything farther would push it

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:22 AM

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just seemed weird to me to see normal attack on all the other elemental weapons so far I've seen, which is quite a bit, and bam, Meru's get a fat zero LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:22 AM

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modest dawn I brought Dart to both Lenus fights, with the heat blade, let me tell you, they ...

Opposite elemental characters are required if they have their elemental weapons, otherwise they may be a liability

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:23 AM

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I brought Dart because his attack during special with burn stacks maxed does 60% of the damage of the water dragon/Lenus

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If not I wouldn't have brought him, it was not because of the heat blade LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:23 AM

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modest dawn just seemed weird to me to see normal attack on all the other elemental weapons ...

Her main stats aren’t physical attack anyway, and the boost from elemental weapons are still really good

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For example, 40 attack stat, 20 weapons attack stat = 60

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40 attack stat, 0 weapon attack stat with water damage against a fire enemy = 80

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:24 AM

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yeah I just didn't understand why Meru gets unpreferential treatment

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when all the other elemental weapons have a normal amount of attack

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:24 AM

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She gotta go fast

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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she has like 15 more than Rose base

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which sure, is a bit, but Rose can get dancer's ring

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and now she has more than Meru

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Rose is a bit bulkier than Meru too

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and her dark weapon is allowed to have a normal amount of attack

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so against light enemies she gets like 120 attack or more, while being faster than Meru

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idk LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:26 AM

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Rose’s weapons are waaay more powerful then Meru’s, she’s more hybrid

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Meru can equip a dancer ring too

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:27 AM

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but then again, Rose's special skill is kinda meh when it's only one enemy

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she can

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but she's much less tanky than Rose

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if you give Meru a dancer's ring instead of a physical/therapy ring, she's gonna drop dead really fast

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:28 AM

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However if kept alive, she’ll deal about the same amount of damage as rose

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It’s stats

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And it depends what’s she’s up against too

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:30 AM

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yeah I know

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right now I don't think I would bring Meru to anything that is not a water enemy that focuses on magic

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which is not that many

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I'm not sure I'd bring her against a fire enemy

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:31 AM

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modest dawn I'm not sure I'd bring her against a fire enemy

I’d absolutely do it

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:31 AM

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better to bring Dart for tankyness, Shana for damage, and then Albert or Haschel

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Meru's damage, at least in the point where I am, is terrible, her dragon magics are terrible, and I'd much rather dps with Shana since she wouldn't get one tapped like Meru because opposing elements

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:31 AM

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You always need 1 to exploit their elemental weakness, with physical and magic damage, 1 who’s the same element and 1 who is the best mix for physical and magic damage

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:32 AM

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Shana exploits everyone perfectly with her elemental arrows + magic items

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:33 AM

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Meru’s physical and magic damage is more higher then others if fighting a fire enemy, yes she can die more quickly too but that’s where the others come in to back her up

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:33 AM

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the only problem that Shana has, it's that her healing with items is bugged, so you cannot use her to heal with items LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:33 AM

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modest dawn Shana exploits everyone perfectly with her elemental arrows + magic items

Magic arrows don’t give a lot more damage even with opposite elements but it’s a nice boost, she doesn’t replace what opposite elemental characters are

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:34 AM

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no way

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my Shana with fire arrows was doing similar damage to the water dragon than Dart with a heat blade LULW

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and then with burn out she was doing straight up more

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:35 AM

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Hmm, never got to that point, I’d assume it wouldn’t be much different

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:35 AM

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where are you right now? I saw your Doel screenshot earlier

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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Finished Aglis

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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that's much further than where I am

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I just kinda started disc 3

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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Doing Ultimate Bosses next

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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trying to beat Kamuy

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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modest dawn I just kinda started disc 3

Good luck lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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I've gotten close

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 AM

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Divine Dragon will kick your ass

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:37 AM

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yay...

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disc 2 was somewhat easy

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"easy"

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mainly abusing dart's dragoon

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but enemies are starting to get too much HP

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so I can't one tap them during a single special anymore lol

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:38 AM

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I didn’t end up battling Kaumy until after Divine Dragon

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Just way too much :p

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:38 AM

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I'm finishing additions then gonna try again

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I can get him to 25% hp with a bit of rng

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:38 AM

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What level are you know?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:38 AM

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but then he decides it's fun to spam the magic aoe three times in a row

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and it's just too much lol

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ehhh lemme check

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26, almost 27, when I finish additions, I will be 27, that's when I'm gonna try again

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I know I can beat it, I just need for Kamuy to not spam the magic attack like crazy lol

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:40 AM

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Entered Forbidden Land at Level 25

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:40 AM

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rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:41 AM

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Beat Grand Jewel at Level 26 Kappa

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:41 AM

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that just sounds like a bad time lmao

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I don't feel bad for power grinding to the next level if I am close before a boss lmao

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my current main problem

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is leveling everybody's dragoon

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somehow Dart has twice the exp of everybody else....

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:43 AM

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Divine Dragon at Level 29

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:44 AM

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divine dragon is non-elemental, right?

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:44 AM

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Yes, weak against magic

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:44 AM

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ah

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Shana superiority then

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:44 AM

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Just grind first lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:44 AM

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I'm hoping by then I'm level 30, I can do the first superbosses

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and get the inventory limit to 36

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that's gonna help with bringing more magic items xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:46 AM

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Strangely enough, Windigo was level 30

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:46 AM

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oh yeah

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that guy

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I'm a bit scared of him lol

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:47 AM

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Yea, that guy was weak lol, so was Lloyd

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:47 AM

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oh

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nice

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xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:47 AM

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Lloyd was 31

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:47 AM

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anything that can be rushed with Dart is probably fine I guess

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:48 AM

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Oh, I should share my lineups for those bosses

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Lloyd was Meru, Haschel and Albert

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Windigo was Meru, Dart and Kongol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:49 AM

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Meru BlobSweatAnimated

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I'll probably be bringing Dart, Shana, and then most likely Albert

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:49 AM

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Divine Dragon was Dart, Shana and Albert

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:49 AM

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or Haschel I guess

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I wish Haschel's thunder mechanic was either less stacks or not rng lol

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I've only got to 10 stacks once

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it was against Doel, because Doel stacked against himself

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and it was not even good damage LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:50 AM

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Grand Jewel was Albert, Miranda and Haschel

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Kaumy was Shana, Albert, Rose

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:53 AM

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but Kamuy has high magical defense, so using magic is kinda meh chrisHmm

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:53 AM

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modest dawn I've only got to 10 stacks _once_

I haven’t been able to try it yet, I accidentally deleted them a few times without understanding how it worked 😓

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:53 AM

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I'm bringing Dart, Haschel, Albert

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:54 AM

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Kaumy was Level 29 as well

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I always thought the Chapter 1 and 2 bosses were a bit weak, Zychronix said that was on purpose

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:57 AM

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to ease you into it lol

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I don't think they were weak though

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most of them where from just right to quite hard xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:58 AM

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That was never for Hell Mode before thou lol

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After 10 years of playing, going easy on you in Hell mode was not a thing

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:58 AM

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xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:59 AM

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Most of them I beat in 1 try for this beta

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Probably because of experience?

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What did you use for Lenus?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:02 AM

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first Lenus fight was Dart, Rose, Shana

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second was Dart, Meru, Shana

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:02 AM

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1st: Meru, Dart, Rose, Level 20

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2nd: Meru, Dart, Shana, Level 23

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:04 AM

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my god those levels

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I don't remember for the first

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:04 AM

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Too low?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:04 AM

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but for the second I'm pretty sure I was level 25 lol

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yeah, low lmao

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:06 AM

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How many tries for me on second

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I died once

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:07 AM

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monkaSS

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I think it took me 4 tries?

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:07 AM

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The fight in is here: https://www.youtube.com/live/55-4QPFWP_U?si=-l_v3O2_ronLRDVn

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modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:08 AM

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mainly for a battle where both the dragon and Lenus didn't spam their biggest attacks on turn 1 decimating my party xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:10 AM

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I said I wasn’t doing enough magic damage

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:11 AM

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I didn't have shana's dragoon level 3 for that fight just yet

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and I did the fight quite differently from you

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:13 AM

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How so?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:13 AM

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I started the fight with a special from dart (he was level 4 and the other two level 2)

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final burst three times on the dragon

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then burn stacks on the dragon

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while Shana was throwing fire arrows and Meru was healing

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with that in 4 turns the dragon is almost dead

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just a couple turns more and it died

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which just leaves Lenus which makes the fight quite easy

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I see from you a lot of turtling during the fight

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I don't do that too much

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:15 AM

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Guarding? lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:15 AM

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just needs a bit of rng to not get the strong attacks back to back

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:15 AM

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Guarding is a underrated ability

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:16 AM

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I know

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I use it

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I'm just saying that I've watched the first 5 minutes of the fight

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and it's a lot of guarding

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and Meru and Dart still died twice and needed to be ressed with Shana's third magic

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:16 AM

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The 2nd attempt? I’m just watching it again too

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:17 AM

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and you've only done 200 damage to the dragon so far

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in my final attempt by this time the dragon was dead already

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watching the first attempt first I guess

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you didn't give me a time stamp xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:17 AM

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Oh lol, yea I died once, then determined I wasn’t using enough magic

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Can you seek there?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 AM

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whaaat, you don't get the healing bug with Shana's potions??

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lucky 🙁

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 AM

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At 3:36:00

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 AM

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everytime I heal with pots with her she heals nothing

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let me see

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:19 AM

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It’s a strange bug

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:19 AM

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why don't you start with everybody maxed SP? worryNotLikeThis

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 AM

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During the “blue zone”, I find it pointless usually if I can survive in the first phase

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I have no patience lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 AM

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no heat blade on Dart?

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 AM

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Better to prolong the easy phase in human form

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I have it, the red effects are appearing on the head lmfao

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:21 AM

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you have a lot of patience, I see a lot of guarding still when I would have killed the water dragon already xD

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:21 AM

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rough tree I have it, the red effects are appearing on the head lmfao

oh lol

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:21 AM

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Playing defensively at the right times saves me a lot, if I go full offense, I’m in trouble, if I had just had more items

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:22 AM

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I brought like 8 burnouts and 3 gushing magmas to this fight xD

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plus 20 fire arrows

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:22 AM

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I rely on my dragoon powers to carry me 😤

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:22 AM

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xD

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:23 AM

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Just too good, I perfer healing items, unless their attack item is opposite elements

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:23 AM

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oh yeah, this is the first fight I used a moon serenade on

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just so I could get more burn stacks faster

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so I could rush this fight lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:24 AM

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rough tree Just too good, I perfer healing items, unless their attack item is opposite elem...

yeah, Fueno has both single target and aoe magic items, so I stacked on those

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oh right, you can use spirit potions on somebody in dragoon form

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I forgot about that lmao

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I should be bringing one spirit potion everytime just to do that

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:25 AM

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I forgot what made me get him lol, now I’m interested

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:25 AM

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I'm always like one turn short

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:25 AM

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Ohhhhhh

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Recovery ball, poggers

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:26 AM

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you used another final burst

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when already on maxed burn stacks

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feels bad

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waste of 3 burn stacks FeelsBassMan

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:27 AM

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Hmm? I used burn stacks on my final burst

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:27 AM

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yeah

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on your fifth final burst

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your fourth final burst was raw

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you were already maxed

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you could have used burn stacks on your furth final burst

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then do a 5th final burst to get 3 stacks

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you overcapped worryNotLikeThis

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anyway, I prefer to use burn stacks on attack there, your dragoon attack is higher during special, and the dragon has bad defense too (and not like I have much mp anyway lol)

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:29 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

Tenor

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:31 AM

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this one was without using burn stacks, when he was already maxed

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:32 AM

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Ohhhhh I see

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I missed it lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:32 AM

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anyway, minimal lmao, I was being nitpicky

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I have a more direct approach to bosses it seems

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when bosses are dead they can't do damage yadda yadda

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offense is the best defense and all that

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LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:33 AM

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What level were you?

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Oh Level 25, I was 23, I was lucky 🍀

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:41 AM

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LULW

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:42 AM

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Oh yea, Lenus was still giving me a tough time too

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 9:45 AM

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once the dragon was dead

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Lenus went more or less alright

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it was the dragon big attack that was annoying

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so once it was dead it was fine

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 9:49 AM

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In my case she was kicking my butt again lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 1:22 PM

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I did it, I beat Kamuy at 27 xd

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 2:33 PM

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what's the ???

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?

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when I click on it nothing happens

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and if I click, close the menu and reopen it, it's not there anymore

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oh, it removes Miranda lol

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and then you cannot get her back ever again?

iron bone Jan 7, 2026, 2:54 PM

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Who?

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If you lost someone go back to a previous save.

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 2:56 PM

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what do you mean who?

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clicking on ??? removes Miranda

full bolt Jan 7, 2026, 2:56 PM

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That's a joke

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 2:56 PM

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😐

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well

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I'm out of the loop lol

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and yeah I reloaded a save so Miranda doesn't get removed, and I'm not touching "???" again

iron bone Jan 7, 2026, 3:09 PM

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I don't know who that is.

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 3:21 PM

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Okay.

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if you are gonna make a funny joke with the ??? option, at least you could say "Remove ???" or put it in the readme

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you know, so things are a bit less than confusing 😅

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 6:49 PM

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Does anyone have a few tips for the greham fight?

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 6:53 PM

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kill the dragon first as fast as you can

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and if you haven't, get one extra level since there is an easy recovery point there lol

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 6:54 PM

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I got to level 11 and I thought Greham was the kill target

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 6:54 PM

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the dragon has less defense

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so it dies a bit faster

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and the less enemies, the easier it is

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if you don't care about backtracking, can always try to farm pellets from the crocodiles in the marshland too

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Shana should do enough damage with those

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also, I'm pretty sure I did Dart, Shana, Lavitz

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 6:56 PM

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How do damage calculations work in this game?

Greham has 1575 HP with 120 DEF
Feyrband has 2160 HP with 100 DEF

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also is reading the spreadsheet considered cheating lol

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 6:57 PM

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what spreadsheet? chrisHmm

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 6:57 PM

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mods\dragoon_modifier\Hell Mode\scdk-monster-stats.csv

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 6:58 PM

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oh this is cool

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I wish I noticed this sooner xD

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time to change shop prices to things that do not suck WICKED

sweet wyvern Jan 7, 2026, 6:59 PM

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gusty pagoda How do damage calculations work in this game? Greham has 1575 HP with 120 DEF F...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oRAoWz7xHW185R0ZnxB9BCJgMdMGD-Qnwk80b0CqFD0/edit?tab=t.0

Google Docs

Damage Calculation Formulas for LoD

Written by Wulves, with base formula info and insights provided by Drew, tfz, Zychronix, and Monoxide -If anything is missing or incorrect, please tag Wulves in the LoD Discord server.- -Necessary Terms-Floor - Round a number down to remove decimals. Round - In the case where the game wants to...

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 6:59 PM

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https://legendofdragoon.org/damage-calculation/ ok I found this

Legend of Dragoon Community

Drew

Damage Calculation Tool

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ty

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How consistenly do you guys hit perfect dragoon additions btw?

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I think I only get them about 20% of the time

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its really hard

sweet wyvern Jan 7, 2026, 7:13 PM

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The timing for the last hit is a little earlier than it feels like it should be

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I could NEVER hit it back in the day, I'm fairly consistent now if I've practiced a bit

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 7:16 PM

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there is no feedback on them right?

sweet wyvern Jan 7, 2026, 7:16 PM

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What do you mean by feedback?

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 7:17 PM

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with regular additions you see white flashes when you succeed an input

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and I was wondering if I could see if I'm missing inputs

sweet wyvern Jan 7, 2026, 7:18 PM

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If you miss an input it stops

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 7:18 PM

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oh

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so I'm always failing the last one XD

sweet wyvern Jan 7, 2026, 7:19 PM

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Hahaha sounds like it

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That's the one most people have trouble with

iron bone Jan 7, 2026, 7:34 PM

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gusty pagoda also is reading the spreadsheet considered cheating lol

kind of. up to you however. in the last emulator version they were in the exe file lol.

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don't complain if something unexpected happens. dramod hard/hell mode is still hard coded to hell and back

iron bone Jan 7, 2026, 7:37 PM

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modest dawn time to change shop prices to things that do not suck <:WICKED:13511785399359897...

the shop prices are higher for the beta because they are for systems that aren't in the beta

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 7:44 PM

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gusty pagoda How consistenly do you guys hit perfect dragoon additions btw?

I made automatic dragon additions lol

gusty pagoda Jan 7, 2026, 8:34 PM

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modest dawn I made automatic dragon additions lol

Oh nice, I am going to use it now.

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With the tip for the last input it's a lot easier

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but i don't think it's particularly engaging to do it manually

rough tree Jan 7, 2026, 8:34 PM

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gusty pagoda How consistenly do you guys hit perfect dragoon additions btw?

Almost universally, pretty easy pattern

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Just gottaa press the button faster on each press

modest dawn Jan 7, 2026, 8:36 PM

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gusty pagoda but i don't think it's particularly engaging to do it manually

precisely

iron bone Jan 7, 2026, 8:37 PM

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someone mod in real additions

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blazing dynamo but dragoon form where dart uses his wings

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one day eventually™

dim sapphire Jan 9, 2026, 5:18 PM

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having more additions and switching them up during the fight would be cool in general, but you would need some system to make other additions worth it depending on situation. I guess it can happen with current system if you want a bit more sp, but most often the last one is just the best

celest nimbus Jan 9, 2026, 7:46 PM

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im trying to add the hell mode to mods but it doesnt seem to be working

sweet wyvern Jan 9, 2026, 7:49 PM

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You need to use the special dramod version of severed chains that comes with hell mode for now

celest nimbus Jan 9, 2026, 7:51 PM

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where?

sweet wyvern Jan 9, 2026, 8:11 PM

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The links are pinned in this thread

gusty pagoda Jan 10, 2026, 2:21 PM

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I would like to point out that demon's gate seems to insta kill the pets of Fruegel in his second fight. It doesn't make sense to me they aren't flagged as bosses.

sweet wyvern Jan 10, 2026, 2:40 PM

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Take it up with the LOD devs 😛

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There are a few oddities like that

gusty pagoda Jan 10, 2026, 2:47 PM

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Well I'd assume this mod would change that ofc

iron bone Jan 10, 2026, 3:24 PM

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I only recently decided to change some retail behaviour of the story bosses.

gusty pagoda Jan 10, 2026, 3:26 PM

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@iron bone #🐲legend-of-dragoon message can you take a look at this please?

modest dawn Jan 10, 2026, 4:57 PM

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putting confusion onf the first ultimate boss and hitting itself by 13k hp is cool lol

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it ran away!!! noooo, my rewards lmao

iron bone Jan 10, 2026, 4:58 PM

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that... is something i'll need to remove

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fruegel doesn't run away when confused

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anyways the entire of version of ultimate boss will be scraped for the new one.

modest dawn Jan 10, 2026, 5:00 PM

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well, I'm already doing them now

modest dawn Jan 10, 2026, 5:29 PM

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let's gooo 36 item slots

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happiness, more magic items for Shana LULW

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no rewards on zone 2 except for the firebird with the 40 item slots tho FeelsBassMan

gusty pagoda Jan 10, 2026, 9:31 PM

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@iron bone Same issue with Flower Storm

modest dawn Jan 10, 2026, 10:33 PM

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oh

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maybe this is why I felt like I was missing too many additions

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when I remember not havign that many problems last time I played the game in the original

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sure from time to time in the original I would mess an addition

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but here I would mess them up 2 out of 3 times I was going crazy

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so I just changed it to automatic additions, it makes the games a bit less fun, but I was just going too crazy lol

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By disc 3 I was too annoyed and just changed it lol

sweet wyvern Jan 10, 2026, 10:45 PM

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There's no input lag in SC

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Messes people up who are used to emulators

sonic nacelle Jan 10, 2026, 10:47 PM

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yes, yes it do

sweet wyvern Jan 10, 2026, 11:06 PM

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I find it a lot easier, personally, but I'm pretty used to it after 5 years

sonic nacelle Jan 10, 2026, 11:08 PM

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I used to be able to do perky step without looking at the screen. After needing glasses i understand why >.>

ivory elbow Jan 10, 2026, 11:46 PM

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Hello, I'm new here, I'm just ending Disc 3 on severed chains DRamod but i think the sp needed to level up Dragoon is way too much, I'm still level 2 after finishing all additions, anyone knows how to reduce the sp needed?

iron bone Jan 10, 2026, 11:48 PM

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It's normal to be so low

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I am surprised you got to disc 3 with being dragoon level 2

ivory elbow Jan 10, 2026, 11:50 PM

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oh well... I don't know, on og game i already had Dart level 5 bro... I wanted to experience Lvl 7 b4 the end...

iron bone Jan 10, 2026, 11:51 PM

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the hell mode beta is missing 3 extra features and 2 revamped areas for higher level

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dragoons used to delevel and now they don't so the requirement for SP went all the way up

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most people end up at dragoon level 6 by reaching the end of the beta content which is just before S.Virage 2

ivory elbow Jan 10, 2026, 11:54 PM

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ok... so if i play hard mode i can easily get to lvl 7? cuz i can't change difficulty in the option menu, only hell mode

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:22 AM

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hard mode will not have dragoon level 7 during the story

rough tree Jan 11, 2026, 12:26 AM

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iron bone hard mode will not have dragoon level 7 during the story

Nani?

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:31 AM

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ivory elbow Hello, I'm new here, I'm just ending Disc 3 on severed chains DRamod but i thin...

I recommend using spirit ring, wargod sash and whatever equipment you can find to get her sp, like getting hit by magical/physical give sp, or some weapons give more SP too

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And just... training at turbo speed for a bit sometiems

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I'm about to finish disc 3 and I have three characters at level 5, two others at 4, and the other two at 3

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And Dart is close to level 6 IIRC

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:36 AM

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When Ghost Ship Revisit and Hellena Prison Revisit are added it will be easy enough to train to level 60 and then new Ultimate Boss will take you from 60->new level cap

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Also yes there is lots of ways of getting SP

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:38 AM

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rough tree Nani?

Dragoon Level 7 turns Hard Mode into Japan Demo.

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:40 AM

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I lost only once with gold exp x10 and it was a solo battle

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Hell mode with exp x10 is basically og game but u have more dmg and hp

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:41 AM

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oh well i mean if you are using the battle rewards modifier mod yes you will level your dragoons much slower...

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:41 AM

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I am already lvl 60 and I am battling polter armor

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Yeah but i got all the additions at 80 and no time to grind xD

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:43 AM

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🤷‍♂️

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:43 AM

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I wish it was the same from lvl 1 to 5 and then a bit of grinding from 5 to 7...

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:45 AM

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But your dragoon level is 2?

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Dart has an addition that gives 100 sp

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You should be minimum 3 I'm so confused

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:46 AM

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Yes but i used to do the 2 disc with only meru and kongol to recover the xp cuz i synced lvls

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:46 AM

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Feels like you made yourself too busted and that's why other things are so low though

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Meru has another addition that gives 100 SP too

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:47 AM

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I hate grinding 😂 but well I'll see what I reach when I got to Melbu frahama, i think i will be lvl 4 with dart and 3 with some others

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The fact is that some abilities like spark net on haschel is useless, it does very low dmg on every enemy

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:49 AM

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Make additions automatic then, it's pretty mindless to grind dragoon level, since you can do it in any enemy

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:49 AM

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It is basically a normal spark net and I never use magic attacks, only additions and dragoons, in my og runs only using kongol and albert, always zero problems

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Already got auto additions, it was a chill run 😂

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:50 AM

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Spark net is only worth to use when you apply the 10 thunder stacks from Haschel's new special ability

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:50 AM

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Oooh well

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:50 AM

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And even then it's still pretty underwhelming for how long it takes to charge anyway

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I've only been able to use it on three enemies so far

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Doel, because he charges himself

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And two of the ultimate bosses because they have a lot of HP so I had enough turns to get all 10 charges

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Magic attacks are pretty good though

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:52 AM

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Ok so playing Hell mode with battle rewards x10 is somehow pointless

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:52 AM

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I spam spinning gale from Albert and trans light from Shana

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Plus normal magic items of

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:52 AM

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ivory elbow Ok so playing Hell mode with battle rewards x10 is somehow pointless

I mean... Yeah?

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The hell mode is not balanced for that lol

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:53 AM

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modest dawn And even then it's still pretty underwhelming for how long it takes to charge an...

his ultimate boss weapon is centered around his new mechanic, thunder fist is like the baby version of it

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:53 AM

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You shot yourself on the foot with that one

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:53 AM

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but also the AoE spells are coming to the dragoons

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:53 AM

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iron bone his ultimate boss weapon is centered around his new mechanic, thunder fist is li...

Well, I can only talk about what is currently in the mode

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:54 AM

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still helpful for the final version 🙂

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to hear this feedback

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:54 AM

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Definitely

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So in the final version it won't be underwhelming

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That's cool because right now it is

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Right now only burn stacks, elemental arrows and kongol's counter feel good

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Though for kongol's counter you need to use pandemonium

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To make it more effective

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It's quite fun

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Sadly kongol just folds whenever an enemy uses magic, which is everything lol

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:56 AM

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wind marks are good but you won't feel it

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i am considering raising the cap to 4

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so when you use super gaspless it will apply 4.

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:56 AM

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Wind mark is honestly fine, maybe give it to dragoon attack too, not just the magics

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And the activated ability feels bad because it costs 10 mp but only work if Albert gets attacked, if not then it's mp wasted

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:57 AM

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I tried them all but I don't understand how they work

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:57 AM

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Maybe make it so it's for whoever in the party gets attacked

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 12:57 AM

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I just see colored numbers and I wonder what they do

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:57 AM

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wind mark decreases the enemies turn meter when anyone attacks the wind mark'ed monster

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:58 AM

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The readme explains them

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Still might need to ask questions about it though

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Then Rose's take too long to charge too, but I don't have her at dragoon level 5, maybe by then it feels better

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Dart's burn stacks didn't really feel good until level 4

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 12:59 AM

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i wouldn't mind making
normal dragoon attack 1 wind mark
wing blaster 2
spinning gale 1
gaspless 3
jade dragon 3
super gaspless 4

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 12:59 AM

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iron bone i wouldn't mind making normal dragoon attack 1 wind mark wing blaster 2 spinning...

Yeah that sounds pretty good

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 AM

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Ok maybe I am the wrong person here cuz I wanted to see how it was to reach lvl 99 and do 999999999 damage but my max is 6k with D attack xD hell mode should be really hell though at low levels

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 AM

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My current max is 12k

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With power up and max burn stacks

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On the divine dragon lol

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 AM

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also in next update shana/??? and lavitz/albert will always be in the party and ???/albert will have a different stat table

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 AM

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Ah that's cool

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 1:00 AM

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most people get high damage numbers on the berserker or ultimate fire bird.

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:01 AM

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The new mechanic for Shana sounds super interesting, I would love to try it out

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I already find Shana great though

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Impressive that this mode turned a lackluster character into a really fun one

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 1:02 AM

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once i update to main i will have a new test version out but i am currently focusing on upscale project.

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:02 AM

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Understandable

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 1:02 AM

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gotta get my money's worth before my cable turns to dust 😆

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:04 AM

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I completed 3 runs without using a single magic attack so it sounds really hard to me

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Reading what u are saying hell mode is not completable without magic attacks but I don't like them since I was a kid, now I'm in my 30s so...

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:05 AM

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No you don't need magic attacks lol

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Some enemies have low magic defense and high defense though

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But everything can be beaten with enough level/healing items

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Shruge

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:07 AM

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With battle rewards I'm doing without healing items, only polter killed me more than once

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I used healing items mostly out of battke

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Battle*

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:07 AM

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Yeah you basically are playing the very hard mod in easy mod

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:07 AM

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Yes

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:07 AM

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Which kinda defeats the purpose lol

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:08 AM

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Yeah but like that it is for grinders and non grinders, so for everyone

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 1:08 AM

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Dunno about that xD

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 1:26 AM

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I don't think other players are grinding too much in hell mode.

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 1:42 AM

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If I had my turbo controller I would have grinded but someone stole it from me 😂

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I tried to start a new campaign and change hell mode but it crashes and there is no other difficulty other than hell mode...

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I have the same issue with the save anywhere

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And Dragoon escape/guard and item doesn't work in game

iron bone Jan 11, 2026, 3:13 AM

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only hell mode works

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you can't change it

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it's a beta only for hell mode

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some options are locked and you can't change it

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 3:43 AM

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And there is no Legend Casque, right?

rough tree Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 AM

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iron bone Dragoon Level 7 turns Hard Mode into Japan Demo.

https://tenor.com/view/no-why-disgust-it-hurts-gif-5914551

Tenor

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But… I like Level 7 🙁

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 5:50 AM

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I just tried faust... He attacks first and deals 23k dmg... And there is no legend casque to buy in lohan... How do u beat him?

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I used angel scarf but it's useless

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 10:51 AM

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is it the apparition or the real one?

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:11 PM

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Any tips for the Lenus fight in the throne room?

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I am using Hashcel, Meru and Shana for this

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:29 PM

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Dart with a heat blade

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special with dart

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fire burst until max stacks

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then max burn stacks addition attack

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she gets fried

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I did Rose Dart Meru

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Rose tanks the dark attacks really well

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Meru tanks the water attacks

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if you still have a weak shield from whatever the fight was I don't remember, use them on Dart

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Dart dies to the water aoe attack but oh well, he survives if dragoon though

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you can give him the physical ring so he has more survability, though I think I gave it to Rose

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Lenus has a high magic defense IIRC, so Shana is not gonna help as much as she does in other fights

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Haschel is a somewhat solid choice though, he can replace Rose in my line up

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but Rose helps with tanking dark attacks as I said, and some extra healing

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:35 PM

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modest dawn then max burn stacks addition attack

also during special

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if he's level 4

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I think you can do three fire bursts, an addition

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then another special

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addition, addition, max burn stacks addition

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this should kill

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you just need to survive between specials

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if you have the 100SP addition for Dart, might be worth to rush Special instead of other damaging additions

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and of course, start the fight with special up

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:38 PM

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oh right, the mod adds more mechanics to characters

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:39 PM

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burn stacks is insanely good

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abuse it

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LULW

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:39 PM

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I suppose Rose is better since one of her magic attacks is dark

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:39 PM

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Lenus is water

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:39 PM

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from the boss

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i mean

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:40 PM

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ah yeah

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that's why I used Rose

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if Lenus targets Rose with the dark attack it's basically a free turn

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shana instead of meru should work too

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:41 PM

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well I was bringing up her dragoon level by passing turns 1000 times

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:41 PM

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if you have fire arrows

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with the spirit ring?

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:41 PM

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yeah

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:41 PM

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yeah

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:42 PM

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game speed +600%

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:42 PM

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also attack normally with her

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she doesn't do much damage

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and gets extra sp

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so might as well

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:42 PM

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bind defense to a button, and do other stuff while getting RSI

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:42 PM

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ah

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well yeah that's much better

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my shana is currently just dlvl 5

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while dart and albert are just 6

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lol

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:43 PM

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will meru or shana do more dps here u think?

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assuming enough fire arrows

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:43 PM

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Meru is water, she doesn't do much damage

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if you use her

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it's just for support

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healing and tanking

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you shouldn't have many burn outs, so Meru would do a bit worse than Shana damage wise

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as long as you have fire arrows

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in Dart's special, Shana can use fire arrows, which has a nice boost with the fire field

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but in the end doesn't matter much, because Dart should fry Lenus easily with a max burn stacks addition on special lol

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:45 PM

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so the background effect of the special actually has effect to the game?

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:45 PM

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unless I'm very wrong, it should make that element stronger, and the oppossing element weaker

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Imma look it up

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It transforms all three characters into their Dragoon form, grants doubled attack power as well as automatically perfect Dragoon Additions to the Dragoon that initiated it, and changes the background to an Element Dimension filled with the color of its resepective element, with differently colored waves of energy as well as "flows" around the battlefield. When that Dragoon returns back to the human form, the Element Dimension and the effects disappear.

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maybe I made it up lmao

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I'm checking more

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and I see people saying the same as I do

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so conflicting information

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maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in

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It gives an elemental modifier based on who uses it. Ex. If Dart used it, 1.5x all fire damage, 0.5x all water damage. It affects all sources: dragoon magic, magic attack items, and elemental weapons.

It also will automatically complete the user’s D’Attack, ignoring the spinning wheel.

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by a random redditor

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Elemental damage matching the initiator's element is boosted by 50%, for both allies and enemies.

Elemental damage opposing the initiator's element is cut by 50%, for both allies and enemies.

Automatic D-attack for the initiator.

    If the initiator is using an elemental weapon, their D-attack damage is boosted.

Everyone gets major defense boosts and status immunity without having to wait for their turn.

Auto-clear all status ailments, including petrification (so long as it's not the initiator)

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:49 PM

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alright, dart it is then

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:50 PM

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don't forget the heat blade

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:51 PM

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yup

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:51 PM

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also don't forget using speed up whenever you think is best

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pandemonium and the shield can also help in a pinch

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using pandemonium on meru while you defend with her should help

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I might recommend once you start special

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you might just dedragoon Meru

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so you don't lose much hp on her

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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oh, repeat items u get back it seems 🙃

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fuck

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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in case she needs to be busy defending/healing and cannot build SP

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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I thought repeat meant, it lasts for 3 turns

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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you sold them?

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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no

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:52 PM

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LULW

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oh

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well

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start using them now

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haha

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never too late!

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but yeah repeat means you can use them once per battle

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they do last for three turns

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but yeah, repeat means they will be back after the battle ends

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Meru's dragoon in that fight is only useful to heal, so you don't want to user her SP unless you need it, so it's always available

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:55 PM

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yeah that's how I've been using her so far

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:55 PM

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ah perfect then!

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you got this

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Lenus' fight is always annoying if unprepared

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my first playthrough ever she blocked me so hard I dropped the game completely

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the second time I was prepared

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and in hell mode I knew I had to be hella prepared with a good strat lol

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 4:56 PM

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I will get Dart to level 5 dragoon so I can use 3 final bursts for every mana potion

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how many pots do I need u think?

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:57 PM

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with level 5

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you can do 4 final bursts and then dragoon or addition

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 4:57 PM

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gusty pagoda how many pots do I need u think?

zero

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with Dart level 5 you are gonna kill her in a single special LULW

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Dart's burn stacks mechanic gives him MP

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with 4 stacks he gets 10mp

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with 8 stacks he gets an extra 20mp

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and at max stacks his first five spells costs 0mp

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so with 100mp at level 5, you can do four fire bursts, and have max burn stacks for your fifth attack, and decide if you wanna addition or dragon

gusty pagoda Jan 11, 2026, 5:00 PM

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oh i didn't know lol

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 5:00 PM

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I suggest reading the readme

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and then asking any questions you need

modest dawn Jan 11, 2026, 5:02 PM

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modest dawn I suggest reading the readme

I say this without sarcasm btw

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it's just really useful because it's the only way to somewhat understand the new mechanics, since of course it's not gonna be in any guide/wiki LULW

ivory elbow Jan 11, 2026, 5:22 PM

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How to beat Faust? Obviously the real Faust... He does 23k dmg and he attacks first... I tried with 2 item evasion for Dart at 35% e managed to dodge the first attacks but faust attacks twice, i do about 3-7k dmg and he has 128k

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